[00:00] Motoko-chan, would you rather use your penix 100% optimized or at 50% ? [00:00] Penix? [00:00] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:00] if you had a fast car, would you want to push it to the limit or drive it a lot slower than it's ability [00:01] maximum ability [00:01] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:02] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:02] ahahahah penix one hundred. [00:02] damn right [00:03] jeev: you payed for win 7? [00:03] or is it piratex one hundred? [00:04] that's a great question [00:04] i didn't pirate it and i didn't pay for it [00:04] magic... [00:04] did it come to you in a dream? [00:04] what is in between, alex. [00:04] came with [00:04] shonudo, the key was written in my fortune cookie [00:04] he subscribes to msdn? [00:04] lookin, i dont buy computers. dont insult me like that [00:04] nyRednek, weary close [00:04] aquired [00:04] but i'll call you a weener, i mean winner [00:05] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:05] i wish i could go back to XP [00:05] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [00:05] ... flush the toilet... [00:06] does anyone have an EVO from sprint ? [00:07] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1950 [00:07] I'd rather suffer (increasingly less) performance penalties under wine, then use windows (regardless of cost). [00:07] ahaha [00:07] Azeotrope is a joke [00:07] :) [00:08] Dual booting sucks, and if it's a seperate machine, it might as well be an ecks-bochs. [00:08] byteframe, im so used to windows. i prefer to use slack for my serverfs [00:08] Xgates (~Xgates@udp116220uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] hey guys [00:08] nobody is here, go away [00:08] slack is an fs? [00:08] oh [00:08] If you can set up a linux server, certainly you can adjust how you use a gui desktop? [00:09] -f [00:09] servers [00:09] byteframe.. ? [00:09] I'm trying to compile a QT style and in the phase.pro file it has, target.path = $$[QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS]/styles and I don't want to use that since I'm trying to make a package for it in Slackware, which I use as make install DESTDIR=$PKG how do you change target.path to work for this? [00:09] jeev, what's to get "used to" with windows? [00:10] byteframe, i can't explain it. it's like a long lost love. [00:10] i bought a new ssd to use slack on but i'm hsetitating [00:10] More like perpetual date rape. [00:10] i have it on my laptops. [00:10] but i would love to use it on my main desktop.. [00:10] I think it's time to take the plunge. [00:10] i found a windows 7 taskbar tweaker which has made me love 7 even more now, that was one of my biggest issues with 7. [00:11] the ssd is gathering dust [00:13] lookin (~lookin@wjohnd-1-pt.tunnel.tserv14.sea1.ipv6.he.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:14] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [00:14] Hi folks. Classes are officially overrrrrr! [00:15] Xgates: DESTDIR won't work with *.pro files. You might want to try make install INSTALL_ROOT=$PKG [00:15] mjollnir (~tallwhite@cpe-67-243-181-163.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:16] ahh ok INSTALL_ROOT=$PKG [00:16] thanks [00:17] that won't help you with the target.path problem but it will allow you to package the program [00:17] ok wait lost here [00:17] am I going to do? [00:17] gmake [00:17] make [00:17] make INSTALL_ROOT=$PKG [00:18] mjollnir (~tallwhite@cpe-67-243-181-163.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:18] no [00:18] qmake at the top... [00:18] qmake [00:18] make [00:18] make install INSTALL_ROOT=$PKG [00:18] yes, the *.pro file creates the Makefile [00:18] so what you mean not going to help with target path problem? [00:19] correct, just for packaging [00:19] do I need to edit the target.path? [00:20] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:20] most likely [00:20] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:20] is QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS defined anywhere in the *.pro file? [00:20] yes [00:21] target.path = $$[QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS]/styles [00:21] it used but it isn't defined (ie. QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS=/usr/share/whatever) [00:22] sorry don't know what you're telling me [00:23] it used it I know it installed the lib in the usr/gt/liib/styles path [00:23] /usr/qt.... [00:24] what you mean by not defined? [00:25] what are you trying to compile? [00:25] Phase [00:26] by saying phase.pro I thought you knew :) [00:27] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [00:27] rlw (~rworkman@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] rworkman: I'm glad you're here. We need to talk. [00:28] rlw: what's up? [00:28] I just wanted to tell you that the plan is in place. [00:28] Okay, thanks for the heads-up. Let's see how happy this makes things. [00:29] haha! Nice :) [00:29] Well, I've got to go do some other stuff now. Good luck! [00:29] rlw (~rworkman@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:30] Um, talking to your own clones, isn't that copyrighted? [00:30] That "rlw" is a nice guy. It's not me - really. I promise I'm not talking to myself. [00:30] Is it?? Damn. [00:30] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:30] Probably. You'll have to send a license fee to Maine. [00:30] hey rworkman maybe you can lend a hand, trying to compile the phase style for Slack using a Slackbuild but neonflux says I need to not use make install DESTDIR=$PKG and change is cause in the phase.pro file it has target.path = $$[QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS]/styles so you know how I can deal with this to use a slackbuild? [00:31] rob0: I'll have rlw check on that. Thanks [00:32] Xgates: maybe "make install QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS=/usr/whatever/" [00:33] what to the /tmp/pack_build path? [00:34] sorry you saying that's going to be in the slackbuild or change the phase.pro target.path =? [00:34] troy (~troy@resolutebay-216-126-255-135.qiniq.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:34] I'm saying that *might* work inside the build script. [00:35] I don't know though. TIAS. [00:35] ok [00:36] Well, afk for a while. Maybe back tonight; maybe not. 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[00:44] thanks [00:44] hi , i m trying to intall slackware over network using PXE but i m running freebsd on my nfs server and i don't ve any slackware machine , frm where can i get "pxelinux.0" file ? [00:44] i searched iso file but its not in install iso of slackware [00:47] /usr/share/syslinux/pxelinux.0 [00:47] i don't ve any linux atm [00:47] i m on freebsd [00:48] well darn qtconfig just seg faulted on me trying to run after installing phase [00:48] hmm don't seem to like it [00:48] darn [00:48] Action: Xgates trys again [00:49] Xgates: whats phase [00:50] Phase 0.8 [00:50] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Phase?content=11402 [00:52] did you read the last comment? [00:53] a bit old 2007 [00:53] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [00:54] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:40] do you think this is a good study path if one wanted to become a linux sys admin: [02:40] HARDWARE >> TCP/IP >> DNS >> KERNEL >> LINUX CONFIGURATION >> COMMON SERVICES >> REGEX >> BASH >> PYTHON [02:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:44] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:46] dustybin: you'll need "common services" pretty much before anything else, since that is what people will need [02:46] and regex is also not optional [02:46] ok [02:46] nor is bash [02:47] hardware/tcp/dns doesn't really have much to do with Linux; DNS is one of those "common services" [02:47] ok [02:47] i thought they would be handy to know [02:48] I'd suggest the following path: Install Linux -> get to know bash -> work your way around the system, get to know the ins and outs -> mess with services (apache, php, mysql, bind, mail, cron, procmail, samba, Xwindows if you want to, anything else you can shake a stick at) [02:48] it tends to work for most people [02:49] none of this is "studying" per se. it's *doing* [02:49] reading a book won't teach you a single thing [02:50] agree [02:50] thanks :D [02:50] np [02:53] burn em books [02:54] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:55] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:35] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.160.251) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:36] skazhy (~karlis@85.254.194.65) joined ##slackware. [03:36] Hi! I need a rdp client. What could you recommend? :) [03:36] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [03:39] soapy_j (~netman@host217-46-151-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:40] google [03:40] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.160.251) joined ##slackware. [03:40] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.58) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:41] archcezar (1000@afy175.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:42] skazhy, slackbuilds.org too [03:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:44] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] archceza1 (1000@djp135.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:44] isnt rdp included? [03:45] skazhy: rdesktop [03:45] included in what? [03:45] slack.. [03:45] 'rdp' is a protocol [03:45] ananke, you answered it, im using one hand to type, other is for eating... :) [03:46] i meant rdesktop.. [03:47] ananke: thanks :) [03:49] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:49] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:03] raymondmendoza (~rmendoza@70-4-31-212.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:04] raymondmendoza (rmendoza@70-4-31-212.pools.spcsdns.net) left ##slackware. [04:09] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:11] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:13] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [04:17] AppDeb (AppDeb@195.74.237.225.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:21] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:43] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [05:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Morn [05:45] morn' Zordrak [05:45] heya Zordrak [05:55] <_RadioHead> morn Zordrak ml4711 surrounder [05:59] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [06:00] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [06:01] Good morning [06:02] Morn [06:03] Morning [06:03] no [06:04] well evening then,rabbitear...or afternoon...:*) [06:05] Fjorgynn: So,how's xfce4 coming along? [06:07] morn [06:07] MLanden: fine [06:07] skazhy (~karlis@85.254.194.65) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:08] but it still uses 4.1 GB :p [06:08] everything ^^ [06:09] still smaller than windows 7 XD [06:10] true [06:10] do anybody know when gnome 3 is going to release [06:10] ? [06:10] just wanted to know how it looks like [06:11] gnome m3tti: sometime this fall,II(Read)C...;) [06:13] ah cool and kde 4.5 is out in one week, right? [06:14] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [06:16] http://apocalypsus.deviantart.com/art/Minimal-Evolution-170929118 <- lol kde ??? [06:17] looks nice [06:17] We Are the World! [06:18] first class [06:22] wow kwin effects over a dualscreen are awesome [06:22] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.63.253) joined ##slackware. [06:24] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [06:32] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:10] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:10] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [07:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [07:14] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-butmnlalemhcxstw) joined ##slackware. [07:14] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:15] raela: i want to build a network and my friend connect to me then we on line together [07:15] why can't success raela [07:16] which card do you have? [07:17] Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) [07:17] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:17] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] use this http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/hostapd/ [07:21] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [07:23] i get it, what to do next raela [07:23] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] read the documentation to find out how to use it [07:24] ok [07:25] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:25] hey, ^r allows for backwards search through bash history, but i often press ^r one time too many... is there a way to go back (oposite of ^r sort of)? [07:25] delby (~chatzilla@bzq-79-176-38-179.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [07:26] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:28] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:29] hello, i am trying to install slack from usb stick. i downloaded usbboot.img and put it on usb stick. the problem is that according the problem is that my computer only supports usb-fdd boot and according to the readme file it needs to support usb-hdd boot. any one knows a way around that problem? [07:31] Ive been playing a little bit with AlienBob's freenx packages on 2 boxes: one with 13.1 multilib and the other with 12.2 [07:32] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:32] Apparently, I've been reading too many guides from other distros... [07:32] According to a post from Alien on LQ, there is not need to do anything with the server once it is installed... [07:32] In other places they tell you to run nxserver --install [07:33] and modify sshd_conf, adding, among other things AllowUsers nx [07:34] also they tell you to change node.conf and add authenticationdb [07:34] which apparently, would not be necessary according to Alien... [07:35] i may have been overdoing it and shooting myself in the foot [07:36] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:36] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.80.110) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:42] 07:36 < ganeshix> also they tell you to change node.conf and add authenticationdb [07:42] 07:36 < ganeshix> which apparently, would not be necessary according to Alien... [07:42] 07:37 < ganeshix> i may have been overdoing it and shooting myself in the foot [07:42] Action: ut facepalms [07:42] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:43] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:43] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:44] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:44] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Looking at a speech with Kevin Mitnick. He uses VIM <3 [07:45] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Quit: Server upgrade [07:45] hi, when i "maximize" a window it grows only to a centimeter less than actual desktop space. I guess this is some smart kde option, but i do not like it very much :) [07:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:46] i need my windows maximized, not "almost maximized". ;) any idea what is happening? [07:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:49] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-135-15.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:49] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:49] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:50] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:50] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [07:50] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:50] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:50] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [07:51] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:51] i think i did it. there is some things called panels in the left and bottom on my desktop. they seemed to block my windows to maximize. maybe i need to learn what can be done with this ultra advanced view options... :) [07:51] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:52] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:53] archslob (~jake@92.17.162.233) joined ##slackware. [07:54] delby (~chatzilla@bzq-79-176-38-179.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Iceweasel 3.0.6/2010062510] [07:54] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:56] if daemons and things are started from /etc/rc.d/rc.* files... what is the point of the /etc/rc*.d/ directories? [07:56] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [07:57] smartasstronaut_ (~jay@adsl-240-69-74.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:57] compatability mostly, I think [07:59] wicd doesn't seem to be starting at boot time. In arch (when I had that installed) I would have just added it to the daemons line in /etc/rc.conf. Is there an equivalent file in slackware? [08:00] for me it starts by default ._. [08:00] archslob, shouldn't need to. can you ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd ? [08:01] yes [08:01] the init scripts will look for rc.wicd already [08:02] maybe it isnt set to x? [08:02] I couldn't see this in the slackbook. I'm just being lazy asking in here really - I could find this out myself [08:02] The slackbook is too old for wicd [08:02] yeah, don't bother with the slackbook [08:03] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] It's not the wicd bit that is the problem. It's the fact it's not starting at boot time and that I don't know what files I am supposed to be editing exactly. [08:03] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:03] archslob, the init-scripts search for the 'slackware-provided' scripts, try to find if they are executable [08:03] so, since slackware kinda provides wicd as a package, so it's init-scripts are already coded to look for it [08:03] meaning, as long as it's +x, it'll start at boot [08:06] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:06] I will need to learn about the init scripts in slackware [08:08] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [08:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.63.253) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:11] smartasstronaut_ (~jay@adsl-240-69-177.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:14] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.152.15) joined ##slackware. [08:15] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D52BE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] kryptoz (~sabarish@122.167.245.108) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:15] hi, i have a login problem into my kde 4.4.3 [08:16] since i uninstalled the fglrx driver [08:16] The system each time I boot says that there is an undefined video mode and asks me to choose one. Is there a way I can give it an option that it will remember in the future? [08:16] http://pastebin.com/FbTYJXew [08:17] archslob, that's your lilo.conf value I'd guess [08:17] or, the VGA definition within lilo.conf [08:17] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-butmnlalemhcxstw) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:17] what can i do? [08:17] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-qmpeoblsppghjuad) joined ##slackware. [08:17] thrice`, Thanks, I will go and change it [08:18] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:20] how is that connect-proxy is not in my system nor in any repository ? [08:20] http://linux.die.net/man/1/connect-proxy seems like it is a standard command [08:20] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:23] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [08:24] uhh hello :D [08:25] paul424: Why do you think its a common linux command? [08:25] I don't find it in openSUSE either. [08:25] So why do you think this is a 'common' command? [08:26] Is there any reason why when root in the terminal that I cannot use a graphical text editor to open a file? "kwrite /etc/lilo.conf" says that it cannot connect to the x server [08:26] ouch [08:26] archslob: Did you 'su' or did you 'su -' [08:27] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:27] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [08:27] archslob: is kdesu installed? you could give that one a try [08:27] Dominian, I used "su -" [08:27] surrounder, I will look into it [08:27] archslob: try just using su [08:29] alksdfgoiw (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:29] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:31] can someone help me with my login problem? [08:31] vinic_, how did you remove fglrx ? [08:31] Dominian, Unfortunately that did not work [08:32] thrice`, with pkgtool [08:33] ganeshix_back (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:33] vinic_, ok, fglrx is nice and overwites some files provided by x.org. did you reinstall any of those? [08:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] reinstall the xorg? [08:35] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:36] specifically, mesa, libdrm, and xorg-server would be a good start [08:36] I haven't used fglrx in about 5 years though. I think those 3 packages will correct it :) [08:36] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:36] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:37] back in my day, x.org was only 1 package!! [08:39] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:39] thrice`, how can i reinstall it? [08:41] vinic_, well, if you're a slackpkg user, slackpkg has a 'reinstall' flag. otherwise, if you have slackware media, you can mount them and and 'upgradepkg --reinstall /mnt/place_where_you_put_it/x/{libdrm,xorg-server,mesa}*.txz' or so [08:42] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:43] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [08:44] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Client Quit [08:44] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:44] ok thx i try it :) [08:44] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:45] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] kryptoz (~sabarish@122.167.245.108) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:45] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. 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[08:57] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:58] thrice`, thanks a lot now i me can login :) [08:58] great :) [08:59] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:59] troyjan_ (4f718c68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.113.140.104) joined ##slackware. [08:59] how do i save as much power as possible without suspending my computer? [09:00] turn off the lights and heating/cooling ??? [09:01] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:02] my computer doesn't have so many leds. also, turning off cooling may burn my processor, main't it? [09:03] I was rather thinking of the lights and cooling in your house/office. Was a joke [09:03] scaling your CPU, and dimming the display are probably the best [09:04] oh, haha :) [09:05] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:05] then how do i suspend my computer without powering off hdd? [09:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-160.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:05] thrice`: i don't have a laptop [09:07] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Hi there [09:08] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.140.134) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:08] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-142-255.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [09:08] troyjan_, ok, not sure how that matters :p [09:09] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.198.200) joined ##slackware. [09:09] thrice`: desktop hdds are totally different and support no power management and screens can't be dimmed, unless you meant turning them darker or lower contrast [09:10] can't you scale your CPU? [09:11] how can i do that? [09:11] i would love to do that [09:11] also, is the cpu the main consumer anyway? [09:11] I think the screen typically is [09:12] do you mean the monitor? [09:12] Nick change: mindbendr -> mindbender [09:12] Actually, if it isn't a laptop, why the concern about power usage (just curiuos) [09:12] i use a liquid-crystal display [09:12] yes, the monitor [09:13] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] i'm concerned about power usage because i keep my three computers on all day long and i'm sick of spending so many coins on electricity [09:13] You should be able to set the monitor to blank after a period of time [09:14] by "blank" do you mean stand by? [09:14] or, just turn it off [09:14] because blank only means "show a black image" [09:14] Why keep three machines on constantly if you don't use them, or do you? [09:14] archslob (jake@92.17.162.233) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:14] what's wrong with this... cp mysql_db3_main.cfg mysql_db3_{main2,main3,product,tm,impress,trans,report}.cfg [09:14] Maybe you should look into the Beagleboard... 2 watts during typical usage. [09:14] If you do use them while you're gone, they are not making you any 'coin' ... [09:14] my laptop by default in 13.0 showed a black screen after 10 minutes then turned off after 10 more [09:14] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:14] now in 13.1 I believe it jumps straight to off in 10 minutes [09:15] Thurin1: i keep them on because i use one of them as a router and the other two are waiting for some members of my family to use them now and then, nights included [09:15] So, why not just hibernate them? [09:15] wake on lan? :P [09:15] turn off the monitor and hibernate.. [09:15] cp blehA.cfg bleh{A,B,C}.cfg should work right [09:15] Turn the monitors off physically when they aren't used? USer training :-) [09:16] erm, actually wait, that shouldnt work =/ [09:16] Thurin1: hibernation and dehibernation click up my hdds too often. i would *love* to hibernate without clicking my hdds on and off so furiously and damagingly. [09:16] phrag, no [09:16] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:16] troyjan_: have the bare minimum running and turn off the screens? [09:16] what are you trying to do ? copy it to 3 different new files? try looping it [09:16] oops, i mistyped "click on/off" as "click up". it's because i'm slightly drunk. [09:17] if they're desktops, keep monitors unplugged [09:17] thrice`: yeh [09:17] was more for my personal knowledge, know it will be usefull, as i've just needed it [09:17] raela: i can stop a lot of processes, but does this economize on energy? or do normal processors still consume the same amount of electric power? [09:17] troyjan_, You're drunk? [09:17] rofl... [09:18] dude it's 9:15am [09:18] Thurin1: slightly [09:18] hahaha [09:18] troyjan_: I don't know, but, I mean make sure X isn't going, kde crap isn't in the background, etc etc.. [09:18] nice [09:18] all the kdeinit stuff likes to run in the background until you tell it to stop :/ [09:18] troyjan_, What are you drinking? [09:19] phrag, it's the same as cp 1 2 3 4; it probably will complain that '4' isn't a directory [09:19] Nick change: mindbender -> mindbendr [09:21] just some thirst beer [09:22] @ 9am... you da man. [09:22] is it possible to hibernate my computers without turning off hard disks [09:22] Beer'll make you fat though, you should go for the vodka.. [09:22] All alcohol is a bitch for fat loss and muscle growth .. but beer is like liquid bread :P [09:23] troyjan_, Not to my knowledge no. [09:23] yes it is :) [09:23] But hibernation isn't 'that' bad for the hard disks. [09:23] Plus, with the money you'll save on electricity... you can replace them in a year or two IF need be anyways. [09:23] actually I think a study found that moderate drinkers (one a night) weighed the least :P though I just read the news writeup which is.. questionable [09:24] raela, Well duh [09:24] raela, Alcohol kills muscle/lean mass so of course you'll weigh less :P [09:24] Good if you're a female I guess. [09:24] If you're a man, not so cool.. at least not for me. [09:25] When I have a drink I think of one of my workouts being sacrificed and pissed down the drain :( [09:25] Beer is the worst.. bloat, carbs etc etc [09:25] I try to stick with a vodka and diet soda mix if I'm going to drink.. [09:25] john_dee (~id@93-81-139-238.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:25] well heavy drinkers are the worst :P [09:26] But... Beer is much more fun every now and then ;) [09:26] Vodka.. hard liquor sort of makes you 'body' drunk [09:26] and diet soda may be worse than regular.. 0 calorie, but the body has issues with the sugars [09:26] While beer just makes you giggly and light headed.. I prefer beer to be honest. [09:26] also, not good for a female.. we want to lose fat, damnit! [09:26] raela, Dude... I'm drinking vodka :P [09:26] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D52BE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:26] diet soda isn't much more evil than booze :P [09:26] no, I <3 vodka [09:27] When I booze I go all the way :P my workouts are sacrificed anyways might as well [09:27] just pointing out that diet/0 calorie isn't necessarily better at keeping weight down [09:27] raela, Indeed [09:27] Diet soda can actually make you gain more :o [09:27] Luckily for me I'm not too concerned my body fat is 8% :D [09:28] When I drink beer I think muh abs will disappear it's scary [09:28] raela, Vodka and what? [09:28] That you love [09:28] Alcohol apparently isn't so bad for women trying to shed some weight [09:29] not picky. juice, soda, tonic water, straight.. etc [09:29] Because the effect on testosterone... doesn't really matter for most women [09:29] Hmm [09:29] Any of you know about OpenSSL? [09:29] I know of it yes [09:30] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:30] But depends how much about it you wish to inquire about :D [09:30] Are you talking alcohol or OpenSSL? [09:30] Well aren't you talking about OpenSSL [09:30] ? [09:31] I never heard of a drink called OpenSSL but i'd try it. [09:31] I am but you were talking about alcohol' [09:31] well, any alcohol talk should be moved to ##slackware-offtopic now that an actual question is here :P [09:31] raela, agreed. [09:31] arfon: google knows more about openssl [09:31] Shouldn't that be ##Slackware_drunk_tank? [09:31] Google is dumb about what I want to know [09:31] What is it that you want to know? [09:31] Google is NOT my friend in this case. [09:31] thrice`: yeh, thanks =) [09:31] arfon: offtopic is a wild world. anything goes and you may not come out the same [09:32] offtopic! z0mfg [09:32] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:32] arfon: oh really? [09:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:32] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Is OpenSSL the correct mechanism to accept TLS connections via inetd? [09:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [09:33] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [09:33] OpenSSL is a library [09:33] phrag: I love the offtopic channel :( [09:34] arfon: you can probably tell inetd what to use [09:34] I don't know [09:34] Let me rephrase the question then... WHAT is the correct mechanism for accepting TLS connections via inetd? [09:35] No idea. [09:36] funny, that's what Google has been telling me. :( [09:36] probably because inetd just starts services [09:36] It 'pipes' stdin/out to the services also... [09:37] ...which is what I use it for. [09:37] http://www.rickk.com/sslwrap/ [09:37] maybe something like that, but I don't use inetd for much [09:38] I saw that but wasn't sure that's what I needed.... [09:38] Inetd is great for handling all that socket/port junk so you don't have to... [09:38] edthix (~ed@175.137.185.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:39] Oh, well, thanks, continue the alcohol chat. [09:39] Action: arfon likes Jagermiester [09:42] arfon: i don't think that's your call. they are free to continue whatever they want. [09:43] Action: KaMii IS a Jagermiester [09:44] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:45] arfon: that went to OT! [09:45] (I have a bottle of jager in my freezer) [09:45] you don't have to apologize, raela! [09:45] he was rude and that's that [09:46] I didn't apologize [09:46] raela: you know what i mean [09:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [09:46] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:46] Sorry troyjan, the discussion HAS TO continue about alcohol, it's in the channel's bylaws. [09:47] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:47] arfon: dont drink and drive, cuz you might spill your beer [09:47] It's hard to drive with beers in each hand KaMii [09:47] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:47] KaMii: dude, a true master can keep the beer unspilt, even when falling down stairs.. driving is no issue [09:48] That's easy R, keep the lids on until your at the foot of the stairs. [09:48] Action: KaMii is not a dude [09:48] Action: KaMii puts a sippy lid on arfon's beer [09:49] Action: arfon prefers bendy straws [09:49] (you don't have to lift you head very far from the table with them) [09:49] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:50] arfon: uses sissy-stix? [09:50] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:50] Are they the ones with powdered colored sugar in them K? [09:51] KaMii: get over it. it's not necessarily a gender reference, and lying is easy online [09:51] Nick change: troyjan_ -> troyjan [09:51] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:51] arfon: nah, I mean when it's in cheap red plastic cup form [09:51] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [09:52] :P [09:52] Ah, yeah, those plastic cups are really spill prone for some reason. [09:52] ..even with bendy straws [09:53] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Action: KaMii thinks raela needs a nap or something, he seems cranky [09:53] wait, lying is easy online??? When did that happen? I wasn't notified. [09:54] also, most people would agree I'm a she.. and I've met people from here ;) [09:54] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:54] arfon: no wait, I lied [09:54] how do you lydown online anyway? i mean sometimes i lye on my couch but... ok [09:54] everyone is what they say! [09:54] nice spelling.. [09:54] I guess that I can come out of the closet, I'm not really a human, I'm actually a small furry nocturnal tree dweling rodent from New Zealand... SUPRISE! [09:54] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:55] arfon: oh snap, never guessed! [09:55] Nick change: paissad -> paissad_ [09:55] Action: KaMii is from sweden, so sorry if I get spelling wrong sometimes [09:55] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:55] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:55] Anyone have any bugs, I'm hungry [09:55] again, raela is cranky, go take a nap [09:56] arfon: yeah, if you run htop and shrink the terminal down to an unreasonable size, htop dies [09:56] go fix it [09:56] My terminal is now running at 5pt, I don't have any smaller fonts :( [09:56] KaMii: I don't do naps.. especially not in the morning [09:56] he meant animal bugs [09:56] arfon: no, I mean make the terminal size something stupidily small [09:57] who knows if anyone would actually use htop with one column visible, but it doesn't work [09:57] he was trying to prove he was a rodent [09:57] (rodents have small eyes) [09:58] meh, im gonna go back to flying my 747-400 in flightgear... even though it broken... stupid plane almost broke sound barrier... thats impossible [09:58] No, it's at 5pt so my co-worker rodents don't notice [09:59] I tried flightgear... BORING [09:59] 30 sec of fun (taking off), a hour of BORING (flying across the map), then 10sec of firey death (landing) [10:00] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). [10:00] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:01] oh, I forgot the 5minutes of frustration (trying to line up on the runway for landing) [10:01] reminds me of that old nes game.. [10:01] top gear? [10:01] ya, i cant figure out how to get ATIS to work yet either [10:01] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:02] then the angry gamer guy tried to land it so many times and failed.. and the time he used the power glove, which sucked for every other game, he did it perfectly :P [10:02] KaMii. DL the Constellation plane, it's beautiful. [10:02] i have all planes [10:02] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [10:02] problem is, some of them are broken :S [10:03] why do you like the Constellation? [10:03] And K, if you fly to the Austin, Tx area, a friend drew the 360bridge and Bergstrom airport terminal in the game. [10:03] haha [10:03] i once accidentally launced an f-16 into space [10:03] It's ashmae they dont have mechanics in that game to fix your broken planes K... [10:03] thats how bad the physics are [10:03] one second I was at 80,000 feet, at like mach 2 something [10:04] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:04] then I pulled up sharp, and was at 300,000 really fast, then the game crashed [10:04] K, you have a talent of breaking things? [10:04] i know.... [10:04] my mamma says i should be the person to test new products [10:05] You have a real future at Underwriters Labs..... :) [10:05] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [10:05] because im so good at breaking things [10:05] it can be KaMii ceritified or something [10:05] underwriters labs? [10:05] whats that [10:05] KaMii: you'd be a great labrat [10:05] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:05] There's BIG MONEY in certifications.... [10:05] Action: KaMii is not a rat [10:05] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:06] KaMii: you better check you kitchen, it appears to catch fire daily :P [10:06] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Yeah, rats can't fly 747s at mach2! [10:06] surrounder: thats not my fault [10:06] only one fire was my fault [10:06] K,'s just testing some cookware in there [10:06] the other 3... just happened [10:07] some kind of electrical problem eh? [10:07] some kind of oil fire [10:07] You also have a real future in the Mob... [10:08] ouyuu (~hpo3@114.102.19.118) joined ##slackware. [10:09] im not italian, so i cant be in the mob [10:09] Aw, sorry [10:09] and my name is not Tony [10:09] is it mario? [10:09] hahaha [10:09] bobby [10:10] Yeah, you can't be a mobser as a Bobby [10:10] ya you can... Bobby Bats? [10:10] You would be picked on by the other mobsters [10:10] or what was his name [10:11] Flavio? [10:11] i know someone named Flavio, but hes german [10:12] :S [10:12] Are yousure his names isn't really Hermann? [10:14] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:15] aryr100 (~aryr@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Action: arfon still likes Jagermiester [10:15] haha [10:17] is it possible to use the follow for more than 1 package @ a time :cat mozilla-firefox-3.5.6-i686-1.txz | xz -cd | \gzip >mozilla-firefox-3.5.6-i686-1.tgz [10:18] You can put it in a loop [10:20] using something like: for i in *.JPG; do [10:20] example: for i in *.JPG; do mv "$i" "${i/.JPG}".jpg; done [10:20] is it possible to hibernate a computer without turning off the hdd? [10:21] I don't know that Troy [10:22] Um.. Having installed multilib stuff on my slackware64, do I need to install nvidia-driver and nvidia-kernel from SBo for both 64-bit and 32-bit? [10:23] troyjan: isnt hibernation all about turning things off? Hibernation susspends to HDD doesnt it? [10:23] Sounds like a bad idea Aldaron. [10:23] KaMii: yes, it suspends to hdd and then it turns it off. i don't want the latter. [10:23] sorry so how would the correct format be ? [10:24] arfon: well, I've got a 32-bit opengl binary that fails to initialize video and I don't know why. Alien's wiki has something in Caveats section about this, but I don't understand what exactly it says :P [10:24] the susspend to ram instead troyjan because i dont see what the point is of hibernation and leaving things on, it defeats the purpose [10:26] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-196-14-18.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:26] aryr100, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO TEST THIS, this MIGHT work: for i in *.JPG; do cat $i.txz | xz -cd | \gzip >"${i/.txz}".tgz; done [10:26] KaMii: turning off hdds is just one of the many purposes of hibernation, so how can leaving it on defeat the purpose of hibernation? [10:26] will try now thx [10:26] Back your files up aryr [10:26] troyjan: it would not be hibernation if you left things on [10:26] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:27] I make no claims that that won't trash something [10:27] if [ $CHECK == control_d ]; then echo TRUE; else echo FALSE; fi [10:27] KaMii: well, i'm trying to avoid semantics and keep my question practical [10:27] if CHECK returns "control_d", how do i check that ? for some reason, this isnt working [10:28] KaMii: i want to use hibernation very frequently while protecting my hdds from frequent click offs/ons [10:28] but its not practical troyjan [10:28] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:28] KaMii: my previous message seems to imply otherwise :) [10:28] then dont do hibernation, [10:28] phrag, did you try ["$CHECK" =="control_d" } ? [10:28] KaMii: what do you mean? if i don't do hibernation how will i hibernate my computer? [10:29] arfon: that's the badger, thanks =) [10:29] (that last "}" should be "]" [10:30] YAY! I'm useful again! [10:30] #bash are pro at invoking a bot to print URLS [10:30] get this: cat $i.txz | xz -cd | \gzip >"${i/.txz}".tgz; done bash: syntax error near unexpected token `done' [10:30] arfon: yeh, the quotes where the issue [10:31] troyjan: hibernation will suspend to HDD then turn everything off. if you dont want your HDD to turn off, then do not use hibernation, use susspend to ram instead and have it keep the hdd on [10:31] phrag, I switch between so many scripting languages that I usually miss that junk also. [10:31] In bash; use [[ .. ]] to test strings and files. Use (( .. )) to test numbers or execute arithmetic expressions. You should *only* use [ .. ] when writing an *sh* script; *not* a bash script! [10:31] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:31] that's a handy one to remember [10:32] aryr100, did you include the IF part? [10:33] mcury (~mcury@189.24.149.64) joined ##slackware. [10:33] aryr100, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO TEST THIS, this MIGHT work: for i in *.JPG; do cat $i.txz | xz -cd | \gzip >"${i/.txz}".tgz; done ran this ? [10:33] troyjan: if its a laptop and you want to close the lid and keep the HDD on... then have fun when it overheats and dies [10:33] Sorry, I meant the FOR part [10:33] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-28-62.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:34] My fault... try: for i in *.txz; do cat $i.txz | xz -cd | \gzip >"${i/.txz}".tgz; done [10:34] KaMii: this is a great idea. how do i suspend with the hdd on? [10:34] .JPG should have been .txz [10:35] (sarcasm is funny) :) [10:35] KaMii: i don't use a laptop [10:35] troyjan: it should be in your WM settings manager, or if you dont use a WM then somewhere in your kernel settings i assume, i really dont know how to configure all that, in ever susspend or hibernate [10:36] s/ever/never [10:36] are you actually implying that suspend is a window manager thing? [10:36] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:36] Does anyone know of a good tutorial for building a modern kernel? [10:36] The sleep and hibernation is controlled by ACPI so, if it's doable, that's where you need to look. [10:36] It's been about 6 years since I have, and I'm screwing it up somehow. [10:36] sorry testing on my 12.2 box no xz will log in to my 13.1 box to test thx [10:37] I swear, I make the one change I need to .config, but once the build process is finished, somehow that change is undone, and the kernel doesn't have it. [10:37] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:37] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [10:37] troyjan: I have seen it in the wm settings on both kde and xfce, but I have never touched it, as I never use it [10:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:38] Red, it's been a long time since I last re-compiled a kernel but IIRC, you may not be saving to the right .config file.... [10:38] KaMii: i don't remember having ever seen so many suspend options as to include something so specific as leaving hdds on [10:39] aryr100 (~aryr@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:39] I need the plain vanilla kernel from Slack, but with the intel framebuffer driver not as a module. [10:39] probably because most people want to turn their HDD off when they suspend, they suck power you know.. why leave it on? [10:39] arfon, so it's not the .config in /usr/src/linux? Somewhere deeper in the tree? [10:39] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-142-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:40] Red, I can't remember, I do remember that I had that problem YEARS ago and I was screwing with the wrong .config [10:41] Dumb question here Red, before you exit menuconfig, you rae specifing that it SAVES the .config file right? [10:41] troyjan: my external 1TB western digital Mybook is always turning itself off when its not being used for about 5 mintues i think.. and then it turns itself back on when I want to access it.... its in the firmware i believe of that drive, and i dont think its hurting it, because if turning it off and on a lot was a bad thing, WD never would have implemented that [10:42] arfon, yes. I did. But I also just edited it manually, had the same damn problem. [10:42] I feel like a tard here, not sure what I'm screwing up. [10:43] mcury (~mcury@189.24.149.64) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:44] Well Red, it's probably something simple and stupid, what I do in these cases is get a friend to look it over. [10:45] Don't have a friend to look it over... I'm the only one here that knows linux at all. [10:45] (ggod things there' a Linux Meeting tonight, I have a BUNCH of simple, stupid things to have a 2nd set of eyes look over) [10:45] ggod things = good thing [10:45] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:46] fb|jean (champus@s15224318.onlinehome-server.info) left ##slackware. [10:46] there' = there's [10:47] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [10:47] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:48] LeckMichImArsch (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:48] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:50] duh aryr, let me fix it again: for i in *.txz; do cat $i | xz -cd | \gzip >"${i/.txz}".tgz; done [10:50] wtf are you doing [10:50] aryr100: if you already got xz why gzip it? grab newer pkgtools and fly [10:51] dont' expect these packages to be deployable on a pre-13.0 machine either [10:51] aryr100: oh i just read what you said [10:51] have 4 slack boxes need some new packages for the old ones [10:51] yeah thrice` is right [10:53] Hah! It created a ".config.old", and that has my change. But somehow doing a make replaces that with the default. [10:53] sweet it works ! [10:53] The timestamps prove that's what's happening. [10:53] that package was only a test package [10:54] Argh. [10:54] Action: arfon feels as though he just gave a suicidal a gun [10:54] KaMii: right, but i need an official confirmation that my hdds are safe [10:54] Red, can you just mv the .old? [10:56] arfon: why did you feel as if you'd just given a suicidal a pistol? [10:57] because aryr MAY trash his boxes trying to install 13.x packages on 12.x boxes [10:57] no way to trash, you can always reinstall stock packages. [10:57] then aryr should feel like that, not you :) [10:57] well, 'always' is subjective, of course :) [10:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:58] slava_dp: that goes without saying [10:58] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-62.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:59] Good point Slava, Slackware pkg system FTW! [10:59] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Read error: No route to host [11:00] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Axius (~fd@92.85.218.66) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:01] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:03] indeed. [11:03] latemus (~m@72.55.205.227) joined ##slackware. [11:03] how can i set my system clock [11:04] man hwclock [11:04] thanks [11:04] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] .quit [11:05] latemus (~m@72.55.205.227) left irc: Client Quit [11:06] LeckMichImArsch (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [11:09] ouyuu (~hpo3@114.102.19.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:09] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:09] I do-gnot know [11:10] meh (~meh@c83-249-236-52.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:10] mistell [11:10] :) [11:10] I thought you were just making a general comment [11:10] Nick change: meh -> Guest46468 [11:10] Guest46468 (meh@c83-249-236-52.bredband.comhem.se) left ##slackware. [11:10] heheheh [11:11] no, i have used irssi for a long time and have just started playing with it's window stacking features. [11:12] I understand... running screen + IRSSI is pissing me off... CRTLA+3 vs ALT3 .... [11:13] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:13] arfon: um I run irssi in screen and just do alt+3.. [11:13] oh yeah.. [11:13] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:13] :) you making fun of me R? :) [11:14] why not just use tab completion instead of only the first letter of a nick? [11:14] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:14] because sometimes I don't catch it and I respond to Bill when I meant Bob [11:14] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: time to lunch [11:15] yeah well one letter is no better [11:15] ...and Bill HATES it when I call him an idiot (even though he is)). [11:15] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.148) joined ##slackware. [11:15] Bill is an idiot I agree. [11:15] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:15] TY steve! [11:16] DAMNED TAB complete [11:16] :P [11:16] No Prob Jeff! [11:16] I have a .sh that was written for tgz been trying to edit it for txz no luck : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-remaster-sh-script-819223/ [11:17] Action: arfon isn't going to open that link up on lynx with a 5pt font... [11:20] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.63.253) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [11:23] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [11:24] aryr100: export PKGTYPE=txz [11:24] steve FTW! [11:25] raela, I think he was talking about rworkman, but he didn't know it was actually me. [11:26] aryr100: I couldn't find tgz in your script though if it's there it needs to say txz instead of tgz. [11:27] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:27] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:28] sorry maybe miss spoke, it was written for the tgz format I want to edit it to work with the txz format [11:29] aryr100: then do what I said.. I don't see the problem. [11:30] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D52BE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] I haven't looked at the scrip but he may need to change and gzip/gunzip references also... [11:30] you are looking @ it on this link ? : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-remaster-sh-script-819223/ [11:30] aryr100: i am not looking at anything right now [11:30] so... tr /gzip/ /xc/ maybe? [11:31] i posted the errors [11:31] rob0: you lost me totally [11:32] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [11:32] aryr100: ah, i missed the errors on the bottom [11:33] oh nm, I am just trying to be silly, too damned silly to do it effectively. [11:33] rob0, you're so silly [11:34] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: leave x [11:34] rob0: no, I'm just tired and hungry and bleh [11:34] want to kick cufflinks in the code [11:35] Just curious, what prompted the 'new' Slackware logo awhile back? [11:38] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:40] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:40] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.160.251) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:41] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.13.15) joined ##slackware. [11:42] nice [11:42] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] A_666_A (~sidmario@189.111.132.13) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:43] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D52BE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:44] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:47] anyone uses openlaszlo ? [11:47] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.152.15) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:52] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0501.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:53] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:53] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:55] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:57] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:58] arfon, you mean the ambigram? There were numerous times in which people needed to read the logo right-side up and umop ep!sdn ... it solved those problems. [12:00] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Yes Rob0, I was curious about it. [12:00] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:00] TY [12:00] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:10] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. 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[12:23] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:24] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:26] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:29] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:30] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:30] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [12:31] is it possible to suspend a computer without turning off the hdd? [12:32] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:32] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:33] antoni (~user@108.Red-88-7-133.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] no [12:33] its not common [12:33] what is the point? [12:34] stinky: i tried to tell him earlier but hes just trolling [12:34] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:34] the cpu has to be on to direct data to the hard disk. [12:34] oh [12:34] Action: stinky goes back to what he was doing. [12:34] stinky you stink [12:34] chris_scummette (chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-68-43.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:35] KaMii: are you insane? how can you be so irresponsible as to imply that i'm a troll? [12:35] KaMii: where are you manners? [12:35] your [12:36] KaMii: like this i'll never get to receive any answer [12:36] KaMii: you're affecting my reputation with your aggressive "rating" [12:36] are you reputed? [12:36] troyjan: we went over this before, I told you already and I told you where to look. no one else in here helped you, so either that means its impossible, or its just pointless, like i was trying to tell you [12:37] KaMii: you did your best, and i thank you for that [12:37] troyjan: i do not see any reputation meter in here.... leave your ego at the door [12:37] KaMii: but this doesn't mean somebody else doesn't have another answer [12:38] troyjan: you may try connecting the HD directly to AC current so it does not get turned off when you suspend [12:38] KaMii: about your ego thing: i suspect you wouldn't like me to preach to you, so why would you preach to me? [12:38] KaMii: i wasn't talking about reputation in that way [12:38] KaMii: i was referring to the practical side of reputation: people won't even bother to take me seriously if they believe you that i'm a troll. there's no ego issue. [12:38] troyjan: right now, you are trolling [12:38] Nigromante: but the mainboard still sends the shut down signal, doesn't it? [12:39] troyjan: if you tell us why you want to do it maybe we could suggest a better solution.. [12:39] use google, use linuxquestions.org [12:39] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl13-186-245.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:39] troyjan: just to have nice fireworks at home ;-) [12:39] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:39] Action: SlackLnx hi sir's o/ [12:39] Nigromante: i told him that already, if he wants an overheated hdd, then go hack away at the kernel [12:39] stinky: i'm trying to suspend as much as possible to save as much power as possible but without damaging my hdds because of the frequent head parkings [12:40] dont suspend often then [12:40] that is dumb troyjan [12:40] troyjan: and the HDD is a sucker for power, I told you that already, why turn it off [12:40] i mean keep it on [12:40] stinky: which part is dumb? [12:40] just turn screen off [12:40] troyjan: the idea is [12:41] dont mind of HDD wornout, it will be cheaper to buy a new one by that time [12:41] troyjan: invest in solar, wind, hydroelectric, and geo-thermal power.... personally i prefer atomic but thats just me [12:41] it will cost less in electricity than the time it takes to find an answer. [12:41] you should focus on kernel tweaking for minimum power consumption [12:42] troyjan: use an SSD !!! [12:42] KaMii: you said "right now you are trolling". i don't mean to offend you, not even to disagree, but i would like to know which part looked like trolling? this may help me adjust my style [12:42] and use a file system such as jfs [12:42] KaMii: i prefer atomic too [12:42] Chernobyl is all aglow about nuclear power. [12:42] Nigromante: that's a good idea (ssd) [12:42] yep, I know [12:42] Chernobyl is not all aglow rob0 [12:42] you still need cpu power to write to the drive. [12:43] stinky: to write what? [12:43] data [12:43] or read from it [12:43] stinky: i just want the hdds on, i don't want to write anything to them [12:43] why ? [12:43] personally i would not want my computer suspended but my HDDs spooled up, no telling what that might do [12:43] wtf is the point [12:43] Nigromante: my question was rhetorical [12:43] KaMii, it's a joke, but indeed it WAS glowing, literally. [12:43] stinky: the point is to save power [12:44] so you want to read from them only? [12:44] dont use air conditioner [12:44] it was never glowing, it just blew a reactor and they evacuated about 400,000 people [12:44] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [12:44] stinky: i don't want to use the hdds at all, i just want them all while my computer is suspended [12:44] you are trolling [12:44] stinky: i? [12:45] stinky: he doesnt understand the term trolling [12:45] i understand the term trolling [12:45] or so i think [12:45] i dont think he understands the concept of hibernation or susspention either [12:45] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:45] troyjan: you see that big button on your computer. push it [12:45] you are so trivial that you want to save the energy used to spin up the hard disks? [12:46] stinky: i don't want to save any energy with my hdds. it's quite the opposite: i want to save as much energy as possible, EXCEPT for the hdds [12:46] exactly stinky he wants to save energy by leaving devices turned on [12:46] troyjan: you still haven't given a logical reason [12:46] and by "except for the hdds" i mean "except by powering off the hdds" [12:46] antoni (~user@108.Red-88-7-133.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:47] and that is why you are trolling. [12:47] stinky: my reason is that i suspend extremely often to save energy and this affects my hdds a lot [12:47] Action: KaMii sings "trolling trolling trolling..." [12:47] troyjan: dont suspend so often, really [12:47] well, get an ssd. [12:48] stinky: you are not being fair to me. you joined the discussion later and you didn't see that i actually began with the logical explanation. [12:48] it may harm your electronics too [12:48] Action: stinky ignores troyjan [12:48] current peaks [12:48] why do you suspend if its not a laptop? [12:48] Action: stinky doesn't have to be fair. [12:48] are you guys still discussing about power saving on a Desktop box? [12:48] i mean... who really suspends their desktops? [12:48] Nigromante: i'm ok with harming electronics, i just don't want to harm my hdds anymore and break another one [12:48] stinky: go in to bios - disable suspend on disk - then go into the desktop settings for power and tell it to ignore the drives [12:49] alisonken1home: why you telling this to me? [12:49] if that doesn't work - then hack the kernel [12:49] hehehe, [12:49] stinky: sorry [12:49] stinky: please don't take it so personally. i am just pissed off because everybody's calling me a troll out of the blue (at least in my potentially insane opinion). [12:49] troyjan: look at my last post [12:49] and troyjan when your HDD startes smoking and making a loud noise like a 747 taking off, dont cry to us [12:49] alisonken1home: it's troyjan and I tried explaing that he needs to hack at the kernel for the outcome he desires. [12:50] alisonken1home: he just keeps talking in circles though [12:50] alisonken1home: thank you, i'm trying to process it :) [12:50] i told him to hack the kernel hours ago [12:50] anyway, he is using Windows after all [12:50] stinky: i am being asked in circles, what am i supposed to do? what would you do, other than shut up? [12:51] that explains it [12:51] KaMii: i'm not a kernel hacker [12:51] stinky: what explains what? [12:51] :-O [12:51] Action: KaMii sighs [12:51] Action: KaMii starts to compile a (USE AT YOUR OWN RISK) kernel for troyjan [12:52] personally i would never use this kernel..... [12:52] troyjan: if your HDD's break it is probably not the fault of the OS since... several hundreds of thousands of people use it without having that issue [12:52] troyjan: 99.9% of the people here are not kernel hackers either. you've been given several options that the people know about here - if the answers don't satisfy you, then you're going to have to try somewhere else [12:52] I never hibernated a PC anyway [12:52] I'm happy I finally got a new keyboard yesterday and the browswer keys work out of the box with linux/firefox [12:52] Roin: i think i suspend much more often than average people [12:52] cheap one too by dynex [12:52] Roin: i understand that you never hibernated a pc, but i can't be like you [12:53] well than stop doing that, I dont think there is a point anyways? [12:53] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [12:53] maybe I'mjust stupid, but honestly a Desktop box is a Desktop and not a laptop or netbook where power saving has a real point [12:54] Roin: i appreciate your advice, but my question was "how do i do it?" not "should i do it?", which may look sarcastic of me to mention, but i have to, since, if i keep answering such suggestions, i will look like speaking in circles again [12:54] troyjan: go down to your local electronic store, buy a power meter for your computer... plug it in, run your computer normally for a week... (suspending, hibernating excessivley like you do) then run it for a week without hibernation/susspention) tell us what the difference is in power consumption [12:54] KaMii: i was considering something like that myself [12:54] again, current peaks... [12:54] KaMii: so do you suspect my computers are not so consuming after all? [12:55] troyjan: look at what the rating is on your power supply - that should give you an indication of max power usage - then adjust for your current system [12:55] suspending just makes sense when not using the computer for a relative long period [12:55] i suspect whatever fluctuation you will see is going to be so small, you will bang your head at the table and realize you wasted more money on the power meter than you would in an entire year of suspention [12:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:55] suspend only makes sense when you turn your computer off and you want to resume where you l eft off [12:56] s/suspend/hibernate/ too [12:56] like a laptop, when you left the library and return home.... [12:56] or go to take dinner and then return... [12:56] but a desktop.. pointless, IMO [12:56] KaMii: just what I said as well *thumbs* [12:57] I've found my desktop is equivalent to leaving a 75watt light bulb burning 24/7 [12:57] you can try cpu scaling [12:57] Less when both LCD's go into powersave [12:57] seriously troyjan if you want power saving, compile your own kernel [12:57] and don't forget the bios settings [12:57] dunno I have a 600 Watt powersupply in my box [12:58] Roin: that's max available power - not actual use power [12:58] I know [12:58] And a power supply should never be used at 100% anyway [12:58] useful when you connect many peripherals [12:59] and 600 Watt isnt that much as well, so I dont understand why troyjan tries to save power >.< [12:59] true - 80% load max is recommended due to cooling requirements [12:59] hes a hippy [12:59] for a power supply is more important the quality of the power signal it provides, though [12:59] KaMii: I resemble that remark! (At least back in the 70's before I joined the Navy :) ) [12:59] alisonken1home: yup, I even learned that in school *g* [12:59] hehe, but i love hipiies [13:00] s/hipiies/hippies [13:00] Action: KaMii is sorta hippyish [13:00] they dont wash themselves [13:00] if you've looked up how a switching power supply works, it's amazing that it's more efficient than a standard power supply, even with all the extra components it goes through [13:00] haha, thas not true [13:01] Nigromante: there's a difference between stone washe jeans and not washing ones self [13:01] i was talking about Nigromante's remark [13:01] ummmm [13:02] alisonken1home: that reminds me of Sesame Street [13:03] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [13:03] robrock (USER@c-71-199-198-135.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] robrock (USER@c-71-199-198-135.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:04] nmoura (c89b1f5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.155.31.92) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Nigromante: which episode? [13:04] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [13:04] just conceptually [13:05] ah [13:07] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:08] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:08] KaMii: and you keep saying that hdds can't stay on all the time because they overheat. this is not true, right? [13:09] troyjan: not true [13:09] the overheating is due to insufficient cooling through the cpu case where the drive is kept [13:10] hmm [13:10] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [13:10] well overheating is due to hd motor running ;-) [13:10] troyjan: i never said that [13:10] I have a stack of failed drives at the office due to just that issue - there was a holdup adding extra a/c in one noc - and the other noc lost a/c completely for a few hours [13:10] it is better for a HDD if its kept on than if its deactivated and activated again [13:10] all the time* [13:11] powered down/up true - parking the heads, not true [13:11] hm k [13:11] yep something are the heads parking, and somethins the heads moving to catch the correct sector [13:12] ugh, i think it's my wireless. this nic has been giving me trouble for some reason lately [13:12] the drive takes more power keeping the disks spinning at a specific rate when the heads are trying to read/write than when the heads are parekd [13:12] parked [13:13] Action: KaMii is thinking about recompiling my slackintosh kernel to make it more custom [13:15] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.221.48) joined ##slackware. [13:16] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:16] KaMii: you may change the Tux logo with another one with Krusty [13:16] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:17] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [13:18] j0z (unix@187.59.17.80) joined ##slackware. [13:18] j0z (unix@187.59.17.80) left irc: Changing host [13:18] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [13:18] alisonken1home: thanks [13:18] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Client Quit [13:19] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:20] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:25] KaMii: you didn't use these exact words, but you implied it quite colorfully [13:25] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.148) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:26] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:27] i have a really odd problem with my sisters laptop, installed slack 13.1 fine, went into KDE etc.... then im trying to ssh to it but the whole laptop locks up! internet and browsing works fine, only ssh locks it up! says something about kernel panic and BAM! never get that error to write down.. [13:28] strange [13:28] unlikely [13:29] josemanuel (~josemanue@70.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:29] which computer locks? [13:29] your sister probably backdoored a trojan with p2p encryption channel to crackme.net on it to control her botnets from the web [13:29] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Nigromante: MSI m635x [13:29] i mean client or server [13:29] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:29] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:30] server [13:30] Nigromante: ssh connection, server/client with it [13:30] Nick change: WireWulf -> Cuana [13:30] yeah, i'm using eth0 [13:30] mistell [13:31] adaptr: my sister is not that evil :P [13:31] how much memory does it have [13:31] half a gig [13:31] pupit: never underestimate sisters! [13:31] adaptr: i dont! she makes best cookies and cakes in the world... [13:32] pupit: i like cakes, where does she live? [13:32] Nigromante: pancevo, town near Belgrade [13:32] ah ok [13:32] lol [13:32] smartasstronaut_ (~jay@adsl-240-69-177.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:33] i thought it so, you'll stick with apples :) [13:33] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:33] how much memory does your sister have [13:33] seanj (~seanj@unaffiliated/node357) joined ##slackware. [13:33] 1/2 GB [13:34] hi anyone know why cdrecord would tell me when i try to burn an iso: Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x0 [13:34] oh the sister... i dont know [13:34] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Action: pupit slaps adaptr [13:35] padhu (~padhu@175.40.18.62) joined ##slackware. [13:35] pupit: reinstall slackware with all packages [13:36] Nigromante: did that, same prob [13:36] ah ok [13:36] potyrr (~m@78.58.248.82) joined ##slackware. [13:36] potyrr (m@78.58.248.82) left ##slackware. [13:36] which procesor? [13:36] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:36] processor [13:36] ill try to google up this.. [13:36] k3b won't burn an iso either, it stalls at 99% device buffer forever.. it can write individual files though [13:36] padhu (~padhu@175.40.18.62) left irc: Client Quit [13:37] seanj: one possibility is a CD-R drive and trying to use CD-RW or CD+R media [13:37] or trying to do multisession CD [13:37] i thught so too alisonken1home, but it worked on windows with no problem.. [13:38] it's a dvd drive that is supposed to handle dvd+r and -r, and it does on that other os [13:38] Nigromante: if you check up the specs of the lap you'd know, its a turion m30 1.6ghz [13:38] very weird [13:38] i was thinking of some kind of kernel incompatibility [13:38] i used arch a couple weeks ago, cdrecord worked ok there too [13:39] no idea anyway [13:39] seanj: i had similar problems with k3b too, now i use growisofs [13:39] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Nigromante: ;) [13:39] seanj: do you have dvd-tools package installed? [13:39] dvd+rw-tools [13:39] pupit: try to connect to ssh from the same machine [13:39] just to try [13:40] thanks pupit, i'll try out growisofs [13:40] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:40] not sure alisonken1home .. probably though.. I installed everything available on the Slackware 13.1 dvd [13:40] seanj: first, try to type it in console if its there, its probably the k3b i think [13:41] seanj: ls /var/log/packages/dvd* [13:41] yes, dvd+rwtools is installed [13:41] oh hehe sorry, I was looking in /var/cache [13:41] yes, it's there [13:41] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:42] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:42] cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error [13:42] I'm not sure what that maens [13:42] means [13:43] pupit: try to connect to ssh from the same machine [13:43] Nigromante: will do [13:44] if its a kernel panic it is kernel related, therefore probably a module (driver e.g) [13:45] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [13:45] you may check /b [13:45] /var/log/messages [13:45] or /var/log/syslog [13:45] if it doesn't panic when ssh on the same machine, it could be a drive/hardware issue with the nic [13:45] yep [13:46] smartasstronaut_ (~jay@adsl-240-69-177.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] alisonken1home: the nic is suspicious to me too [13:47] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:47] is it ethernet or wireless? [13:47] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:47] eth [13:47] ok [13:48] we occasionally see a console dump on a machine where the nic timedout and the watchdog caused a kernel panic [13:48] or the nic hung and caused a kernel panic [13:49] if it's eth, the other possibility is what's on the other end of the cable too [13:50] hm, im thinking to wait again for the error, write it down and google it/ share it with you. thanks for help, i'll let you know later, we wait for the birthday party here :) thanks Nigromante alisonken1home [13:50] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BF5E6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] ok [13:50] adaptr uninvited. [13:50] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:50] np - and now it's my bedtime, and a good chance I won't be up until 8pm PST [13:51] or PDT - can never remember what zone we're shifted to :) [13:51] hehe [13:51] well it is almost 8:00 pm here :-P [13:51] pupit: to what party ? [13:51] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB88F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-128-114.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:52] adaptr: the best party you shall never see and forever regret! :D [13:52] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:52] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [13:52] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.148) joined ##slackware. [13:53] pupit: um... I think yuo need to re-think your logic there [13:53] the best party I see is when the wife is in a state that she won't leave the bedroom in ;) [13:53] i going to try to use k3b 2.0 but it wants a later kdelibs :/ [13:53] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [13:53] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-23-102.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [13:54] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [13:54] and worst party is when your both wives meet in the same house [13:54] adaptr: forever regret to not be there ;) [13:55] even so - if I don't know about it, it will by definition fall outside my set of "parties I have qualitative knowledge of" [13:55] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [13:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:55] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [13:56] adaptr: but let us presume, you will know one day how cool that party was.. [13:56] I will simply.. not listen to what you have to say! yes! [13:56] any idea why k3b wont burn an iso either? [13:56] which version of Slackware seanj? [13:57] it's Slackware 13.1 [13:57] ah ok [13:57] then you can use k3b 2 [13:58] Action: pupit whispers to adaptr [13:58] i tried to do it from source code but was told kdelibs is too old [13:58] are you using kde 4.4.3? [13:59] update k3b with slackpkg [13:59] seanj: there is an update for k3b [13:59] Nick change: Roin_ -> Roin [13:59] no... and i think i know what might be wrong.. i think i accidentally installed Slackware 13.0 [13:59] haha [13:59] :-) [14:00] seanj: well you sure did a lot of work to do that accident right :) [14:00] yep, that's what I've done... I'll re-install ... come back and let you know how it went [14:00] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:01] hehe yes pupit i did... you know how thse things happen though... accidental os installs and all [14:01] back later, thanks for the help :) [14:01] seanj (seanj@unaffiliated/node357) left ##slackware. 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[14:15] if I want xvid and lame support in mplayer, I have to rebuild it with those dependencies available, correct ? [14:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:16] rk4n3, usually those are encoding deps - is that what you are after? [14:16] So I installed the nvidia driver with sbo, now what? It says to be sure to activate x.org or something, never did that because the driver just worked on its own in 13.0 and 12, so what should I do to activate.. the driver? [14:16] thrice`: yeah [14:16] riza, the nvidia driver has never configured itself, so I don't buy that ;) [14:16] kimjeng (~mike@196.201.217.232) joined ##slackware. [14:17] I dunno what I did then. [14:17] rk4n3, then yes :) it should decode those containers OK as is [14:17] riza, not an nvidia user (sorry), but I think they provide a tool to setup your xorg.conf for you [14:17] thrice`: ok, cool - do you know if I have to do anything other than just build with the dependencies in place ? [14:17] lamah (~ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [14:18] lamah (ghost@78.90.113.108) left ##slackware. [14:18] riza: nvidia-xconfig? [14:18] That ruined my desktop, I couldn't login. [14:18] o_O [14:18] So what I did was nvidia-switch --stock or something then deleted the x.org in order to get back on. [14:18] Ya. [14:19] I used the .run last time, but [14:19] Without sbo right? That seems to be the best choice. [14:19] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/nvidia-driver/ read that? [14:19] riza: first thing when messing with Xorg - its usually wise to be in runlevel 3 [14:19] riza, basic steps: nvidia-switch (to change to nvidia's GL), setup xorg.conf [14:20] check blog.tpa.me.uk, tag - nvidia. There's a post about setting up the driver. You want the part about stripping xorg.conf down to necessary sections. SHould work. Can't direct link - no browser :P [14:20] riza: I'd use SBo, but it was for older version [14:20] kimjeng (mike@196.201.217.232) left ##slackware. [14:20] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] :( [14:22] I'll look john_dee. [14:22] Nigromante (Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware. [14:23] riza: It's on the main page. Configuring nvidia cards on slackware. See if that helps [14:25] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) joined ##slackware. [14:27] # Im too lazy to keep a copy of the xorg.conf handy and the NVidia installer creates one for me. [14:27] thrice`, so ya, nvidia did set itself up, now I see the difference. I'll go for the one nvidia provided too and not sbo's. [14:27] Ah. The driver that I want to use isn't buildable except as a module. [14:28] Though how in the hell I'm supposed to use a module that's for a framebuffer otherwise, I have no clue. [14:28] riza, right; using the SBo package won't do that :> [14:28] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:28] But what nvidia provides from their website does tho. [14:29] well, right [14:29] it depends on how you run it :) SBo uses that same exact file, but only extracts, compiles, and packages the module and extensions [14:30] Hm, dunno, just ./nvidia-somethingsomething then let it do its magic. [14:31] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.221.48) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:32] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [14:33] Guys, I have a dumb question. If I get initrd running, I can load up a kernel module that I need... but this is a framebuffer driver, how do I then go on to use it for framebuffer console? [14:34] framebuffer driver? [14:35] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [14:36] ANd the magic worked. :D [14:36] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.148) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:42] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-058-200-124.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] edthix (~ed@124.13.32.96) joined ##slackware. [14:44] geoff0110 (~geoff0110@212.183.140.3) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-179-12-98.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Dongdong (~Dongdong@114.249.26.19) joined ##slackware. [14:52] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: rafu [14:53] Axius (~fd@92.82.73.72) joined ##slackware. [14:54] I hate this fucking thing. The module complains "video mode must be programmed at boot time"... and it's impossible to build into the kernel, module-only. [14:54] jnylin (~jnylin@c-4171e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:54] How can I do that, if it's a module? [14:55] dfrank (~dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [14:55] which video card do you have? [14:55] hello All. I trying to download torrents using rtorrent. Now i've downloaded 2 Gb of 4-Gb file, and now under filename writed "[CLOSED]". I can't figure out why this appears and how to start torrent download again. help please [14:55] dfrank, perhaps the rtorrent folks might have a better idea :) [14:56] dfrank: Means torrent is even not open by the program [14:56] dfrank: Ctrl+S will save the father of the revolution. And man rtorrent of course :D [14:56] Ctrl+S on that torrent [14:57] john_dee: thank you, but i already tried to start it by Ctrl+S. No effect :( [14:57] dfrank did yu try lower case s? [14:57] lol [14:58] illovae (~illovae@unaffiliated/illovae) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:58] illovae (KaSh@vai87-2-78-232-52-146.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] dfrank: Then rehash it with ctrl+r and try to start [14:58] And what fs th edownloaded file is on? [14:58] arfon: i tried both [14:58] Intel 915M. [14:58] How to clean the file cache on slackware? [14:58] dfrank, the easy way is to kill rtorrent and restart it if CTRL s doesnt work [14:58] Needs the intelfb driver. [14:58] john_dee: wow! checking hash now. let's see.. [14:59] How do I clean the file cache on slackware? [14:59] Redb3ard, noo, you don't need FB - just KMS [14:59] sync [14:59] arfon: you will laugh, but i tried this also :) [14:59] KMS being? [14:59] kernel mode setting [15:00] the intel x.org driver depends on this to be present [15:01] I'm not using X. [15:01] Just want a framebuffer. [15:01] oh, ok - sorry [15:01] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:01] And furthermore, it bitches that it must be programmed at boot time. [15:01] Loading the module after boot, won't create /dev/fb0. [15:01] VESA works, but has shitty 3:4 aspect ratio. [15:04] what's the irc command to list channels with more than X ppl in them? [15:04] -n [15:04] Redb3ard, vesa can do wide - try something like vga=872 [15:04] .. /list -n 200 or /list -200 ? [15:04] I've tried all of those. [15:05] -n 200 [15:05] and you re-ran lilo after making your change? [15:05] It never catches. Just bitches. [15:05] Yes, I know well enough to do that. [15:05] isn't udev supposed to make the file after the module is loaded? [15:05] TY sky [15:05] yw [15:05] arf [15:05] udev isn't around at this point [15:06] It loads the module, but won't create the device. [15:06] Dmesg complains "intelfb: Video mode must be programmed at boot time". [15:06] Which is impossible, since make menuconfig won't let me build it except as a module. [15:07] bacal (~default@cpe-70-95-181-159.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:07] bacal (~default@cpe-70-95-181-159.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:08] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:08] ada [15:09] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod_ [15:10] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-058-200-124.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:13] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:15] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [15:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:17] Dongdong (~Dongdong@114.249.26.19) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:21] Axius (~fd@92.82.73.72) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:22] Redb3ard: at *boot* time. in you rbootloader. [15:23] TAB linux vga=ask [15:23] Ok. [15:23] And how do I do that? [15:23] I...just...told you ? [15:23] I can't exactly load a module then, can I? [15:23] that's correct [15:23] Well, it's module only. [15:23] That means I can't compile it into the kernel. [15:23] that is very unlikely [15:24] So... [15:24] that usually means you have forced a dependency as module. don't [15:24] nvision (~nvision@g225062180.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:24] look what it depends on, switch that to built-in as well [15:25] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:26] Only thing looks like intel_agp. Any idea where that is in the menu? [15:26] I can barely navigate this anymore. 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[15:53] :D [15:55] kacbep (~tar@devio.us) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:57] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:57] who knows, how can i specify settings for a non-login shell? [15:58] huh? [15:58] :) [15:58] You mean, how to disable bash for a user? [15:59] no [15:59] i use ssh with git to connect to remote host [15:59] make the shell /bin/false [15:59] but during connection i have PATH variable that differs from PATH which i become when i normally log in [15:59] what settings do you want to specify? [16:00] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [16:00] Hi I have a problem. [16:00] So I just used gparted to delete a partition I no longer need. [16:00] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:00] Now I thought I could use the unallocated space and combine it with sda2 (which is this one)... any idea how to do that? gparted doesn't seem to or I just dunno how. [16:00] Or do I have to delete sda2 and re-create this partition with the combined space and reinstall Slack? :( [16:01] riza: gparted should let you expand the partition to take up the space. and then you'd need to expand the filesystem from within slackware [16:01] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Lol. Are you serious? Enlarge your...sda2! [16:01] Ya but how? [16:01] regarding power saving, is there a great difference between keeping my cpu constantly under 5% (by stopping most of the cpu-intensive processes) and keeping it constantly at more than 80%? [16:01] I tried hitting resize/move but the arrow doesn't go any further. [16:02] riza: i'm not familiar with the gparted interface...you'd probably be better off googling it than asking me about it. but i am about 99% positive it supports doing so. [16:02] it doesn't. [16:02] Actually.. hm.. [16:02] riza: Are you running gparted from slackware? [16:03] It could be that I'm using .3 and .4 of gparted, the latest is .6. [16:03] john_dee, nope, I completely reboot. [16:03] Livecd? [16:03] Mhm. [16:03] meh.. I'm getting to old for this [16:03] Okay I'll download and burn the latest one. [16:03] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-20-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:04] anyone have pointers or suitable google-fu to assist in getting a pcmcia nic (wired, not wireless) to work after hibernating? [16:04] :o [16:04] 0.3.4 works fine here [16:04] riza: Wait? What versio do you have? [16:05] alphageek, it works before, but not after ? and, 'not work' = at all, or until you try and use it? [16:05] And what fs slackware is on? [16:05] Because 0.3 doesn't support ext4 yet :P [16:05] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:05] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [16:06] thrice`: correct [16:06] john_dee, well I have 0.4.5.2, the latest. [16:07] Should work [16:07] It supports ext4 but it doesn't let me resize. [16:07] The latest is 0.5 at the very least [16:07] Could it be that I have a partition ahead of sda2? sda3/5 is swap. [16:08] documentation is less than scarce on the subject (I'm finding this quite often nowadays). I don't know if I should be trying to unload the nic's module, ejecting the card, or both [16:08] alphageek, and does trying to use it wake it up ? [16:08] thrice`: no. that's the problem [16:08] riza: yes. they would have to be contiguous [16:08] Action: byteframe finds out you don't need hddtemp. smartctl can read hard drive tempature. [16:08] my .bashrc doesn't get sourced in non-interactive sessions, the question is why.. [16:08] alphageek, well, does reloading the modules fix it? that's quite easy to do with pm-utils [16:08] Contiguous. [16:08] :'(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:08] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-20-195-210.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] riza: next time use lvm2 [16:09] Well I can delete it and... and create a new swap but I'm afraid if I boot up Slackware will say "nooo where is your swap?!" [16:09] one way to find out.. [16:09] Noes! [16:09] mario____ (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [16:09] riza: well, you will be okay without the swap [16:09] # cat /etc/pm/config.d/defaults [16:09] SUSPEND_MODULES="xircom_cb" [16:09] riza: just update fstab afterwards [16:09] Oh. [16:09] riza: and use swapon after you login [16:09] OH right I totally forgot. [16:09] ^ gonna give that a try. gotta start somewhere, I suppose [16:09] alphageek, should be good [16:10] and should show up in your /var/log/pm-suspend.log [16:10] Action: alphageek hits the power button & waits [16:11] Alan_Hicks (~alan@71-22-248-18.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] no clue if that doesn't work; not sure anything else *can* be done ;) [16:12] booyah! it worked [16:12] now to see if it worked _correctly_ (ie: comes back as full speed) [16:12] I.. I could just reinstall the whole thing but.. [16:12] So time consuming. [16:13] riza: do what we already talked about. delete the swa partition, expand the linux partition, create a new swap partition, boot into slackware, use swapon on the new swap, update your fstab, and then expand your filesystem [16:13] zaltekk, indeedy I plan to do that. [16:13] Wait the last step, how do I do that? [16:13] is it ext2/3/4? [16:14] ext4 [16:14] \o/ [16:14] resize2fs i think [16:14] within a couple percent, it resumed at full speed [16:14] the gparted website will probably tell you how to do it [16:14] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:14] cool [16:15] I'm at - http://gparted.sourceforge.net/docs/help-manual/C/gparted.html [16:15] I don't see anything about resizing. D: [16:16] I just hate that I'm doing this purely by guesswork. it'd be nice if it were properly documented somewhere [16:16] alphageek++ [16:16] riza: just google it. there will be tons of results. [16:17] edthix (ed@124.13.32.96) left ##slackware. [16:17] josemanuel (~josemanue@70.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [16:17] or man resize2fs and figure it out on your own [16:19] halcon (~halcon@S0106002275466fa5.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] I could just setup a lvm.. any idea how? D: [16:19] regarding power saving, is there a great difference between keeping my cpu constantly under 5% (by stopping most of the cpu-intensive processes) and keeping it constantly at more than 80%? [16:19] lvm just sounds very difficult to setup. :( [16:19] troyjan, yes. [16:20] riza: what about the same question applied to a hdd? [16:20] fuzzbawl: ping [16:20] troyjan, yes. [16:20] Alan_Hicks: ACK [16:20] Action: riza calls the police on Alan_Hicks. [16:20] fuzzbawl: Any idea what's up with cardinal? I can't reach it. [16:20] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-qmpeoblsppghjuad) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:20] pvcreate, vgcreate, and lvcreate are all that's needed to create a logical volume [16:21] From sbnd-pc-cus0.bkbone.aaawireless.net (72.42.192.14) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable [16:21] Y'all having routing issues or something? [16:21] Alan_Hicks: I'm not getting any response from it on the console. Nagios alerted me it was down [16:21] I don't have ethernet link from it on the switch either [16:21] ick... [16:21] riza: as for the video card, is there a great difference between using compiz and using metacity? [16:21] fuzzbawl: Could it just be off? [16:21] finishing up some DNS stuff from here then I can head out there to investigate [16:21] troyjan, no. I don't think so then, for that. [16:21] fuzzbawl: Thanks man. [16:21] fuzzbawl: thanks indeed [16:21] gull thank you. [16:22] I'll read the tldp too. [16:22] Alan_Hicks: possible? I'll try routing a power cable to the remote power switch so you guys can remote power if needed [16:22] gull is a/k/a trhodes :) [16:23] when the power management guide mentions the monitor as the main consumer, does it have crts in mind, or are lcds very power hungry too? [16:24] I can run resize2fs while... mounted? [16:24] ebros (~ebros@cpe-76-167-170-143.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:24] english language question: "most consuming"? "most power-consuming"? "most power-hungry"? what's the most standard way to say it? [16:24] riza, you can but I don't recommend it. the ladies get mad [16:24] troyjan: i will warn you publicly. Sending people a private message on this channel without permission is a violation. You have violated that with me. I hope you do not violate that with anoyone else [16:24] fuzzbawl, :( [16:24] fuzzbawl, where.. gah I'm going to cry then. [16:24] riza, the only thing you probably will need for basic lvm usage is to (possibly) tag your pv's, name your vg's, and name / size your LV's [16:25] I dunno what are pv, vg, and LV. [16:25] :| [16:25] physical volume, volume group, logical volume [16:25] physical volume, volume group and logical volume [16:25] i win [16:25] aha, fuzzbawl beat me to it :) [16:25] read ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/README_LVM.TXT [16:25] D: [16:25] KaMii: how do i get my client to display the channel topic? [16:26] KaMii: what's the irc command for that [16:26] /topic [16:26] troyjan, are you using xchat? [16:26] KaMii: /topic says "insufficient arguments for command" [16:26] i use qwebirc [16:26] Channel Guidelines: http://is.gd/bYfOG | Logs: http://is.gd/bYfRK | Stats: http://phra.gs:8000/ || http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://gallery.slackadelic.com | http://slackware.com/getslack | Torrent: http://is.gd/bYfM0 | Slackware 13.1 Released | Security: mozilla-firefox, mozilla-thunderbird, seamonkey | RIP panzer :/ [16:26] thank you, KaMii [16:26] riza, there's an old gentoo wiki article that outlines the relationship of the 3 "layers" of lvm (it's for lvm and not lvm2, but the concepts still apply) [16:27] KaMii: and am i excused if this private msgs policy is not mentioned in the topic? :) [16:27] Channel Guidelines troyjan [16:27] READ IT [16:27] riza: you could actually read the fedora or redhatenterpricelinux docs on it. they give lots of examples of how to use it [16:27] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:27] Channel guidelines are in the topic [16:28] riza: of course, you'll need to look at the commandline parts, not the part about the gui installer. [16:28] riza: and you'll have to setup the lvm stuff manually before running setup [16:28] Hm.. [16:28] I wish there was a livecd that created lvm. [16:28] o.o [16:28] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] KaMii: here, rule #7: "Don't PM (/msg) people without first asking permission from them" [16:29] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:31] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:31] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:32] ebros (ebros@cpe-76-167-170-143.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:32] _devnull (devnull@SDF.ORG) joined ##slackware. [16:35] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:36] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-27-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:37] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Disconnected by services [16:37] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [16:38] Okay wish me luck. [16:38] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [16:38] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D4BB4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] I wish you luck. [16:38] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7C7A1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Has anybody here heard of firefox flooding the local apache log with "GET /" requests every 5 minutes as long as firefox window is open? [16:40] tekzilla (~jon@d032184.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:41] Not I Mark [16:42] tekzilla (~jon@d067218.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:43] hmmm... it's not caused by cookies... [16:44] nvision_ (~nvision@g225062180.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:45] but, if computers typically consume less than 100w, why do they need 400w+ cases? [16:45] nvision_ (~nvision@g225062180.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:45] Troyjan, they don't [16:45] they don't typically consume less than that, troy. [16:45] arfon: consume or need? [16:46] I, for MANY years, ran only 200W PSes in my machines, some with 4 hard-drives. [16:46] oo, spiffy [16:47] everytime someone talks about cookies, i want cookies... but im still banned from the kitchen :S [16:47] found another pcmcia nic in my junk box. not only is it faster (& uses less cpu), it doesn't require meddling to work with pm-utils [16:47] And let me tell you this, the wattage rating (on good supplies) is the minimum, they will deliver more typically [16:48] consume/need the computer will draw what it needs [16:49] Ask a neighbor KaMii [16:49] ehhh, you dont want to know about my neigbhor [16:49] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.213) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:50] Now I want to know about your neighbor... [16:50] heading to the D.C. now. I'll keep you posted [16:50] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-20-195-210.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:50] lets just say, I have to keep the curtains closed [16:51] Okay, ask the OTHER neighbor [16:51] I'm sure someone near you has cookies [16:51] cows only make pies, and im not eating that [16:51] They make hamburgers also..... mmmm hamburgers [16:52] no they dont, we make hamburgers... but in sweden hamburgers come from horses [16:52] Hamburgers from horses!?! You're doing it wrong. [16:53] GLUE comes from horses [16:53] Action: KaMii prefers buffalo [16:53] Action: arfon loses the craving for hamburgers [16:53] or lamb-burgers [16:54] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:54] Just out of curosity, what is the facination with powersavings on these computers? [16:54] Are you guys in a competition? [16:54] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Aw, lamb-burgers :( [16:55] hahaha, they are in a hippie power-savers club [16:55] arfon: It makes a big difference on laptops and in server rooms. [16:55] Alan, say wha? [16:55] K, is that like a coupon clippers club? [16:56] Well, when you save even a little money per computer and you have hundreds of them, it adds up quick. [16:56] hahaha [16:56] arfon: but if i stop most processes, the computer will go comfortably below 100w, right? [16:56] Also, power savings tend to be CPU savings. [16:57] underclocking our CPU's are we? [16:57] If you can do the same ammount of work while utilizing the CPU less, you can cram more logical machines into a virtual environment. [16:57] undervolting is better than underclocking. [16:57] Troyjan, I was a PS engineer for many years, but surprisingly, I never measured the efficiency or wattage usage depending on apps. [16:57] is that the, 'less is more' argument? [16:57] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: https://linuxspirit.fr [16:58] When we qualified a PS, we met the 'static' specs and did phase-gain tests for dynamic conditions. [16:59] Once Dell had it in their hands they and us didn't care [16:59] jnylin (~jnylin@c-4171e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:59] We just had to meet minimun efficiencies at various loading. [17:00] Troy, you can split the AC line going to the powersupply and stick an ammeter inline (on the hot) and see for yourself [17:01] Alan_Hicks: so are you also implying that i can consume less power by stopping processor-intensive processes whenever i don't need them (which can mean hours)? [17:01] LeckMichImArsch (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:01] troyjan: It's possible, yes. [17:02] stopping processes will lower the power consumption [17:02] the question is which processes will give you the greatest drop. [17:02] Action: KaMii waits for the fireworks [17:03] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: home [17:03] go ahead, grab that bare wire [17:03] :) [17:03] Not me... those stinkin PSes have ~300V DC on thier primary circuit [17:04] volt doesnt kill you, its the amps [17:04] Volts are what hurt [17:04] 10,000 volts is harmless, but add an amp or 2 and your dead [17:04] Alan_Hicks: and by "tend to be cpu savings" did you mean causation or did you just mean correlation? i.e. did you mean that saving cpu power is essential to saving power (causation, processor=>consumption) or did you mean that most of the things that need much processor also (correlation) quite probably need other computer components intensively? [17:04] Plus with DC, you may not be able to let go [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-160.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] Action: arfon gets out a taser, c'mere KaMii [17:04] troyjan: yes :-) [17:05] noooooooo [17:05] root (~root@pD9505D73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Alan_Hicks: well, yes to which? haha :) [17:05] This will only hurt.... ALOT! stand still [17:05] Nick change: root -> Guest90394 [17:05] geoff0110 (~geoff0110@212.183.140.3) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:05] troyjan: Both really. More causal than not though. [17:05] Alan_Hicks: thank you [17:05] arfon: are you like a massochist or something? [17:06] Most power savings to date have come in the form of letting the processor go idle when there's nothing for it to do. [17:06] wertik_ (~wertik@95-26-103-196.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:06] hey guys im trying to install glibc-devel so i can compile 32bit programs on a 64bit machine but cant find any .tar.gz or whatever just .rpg Can anyone help me? [17:06] No [17:06] :) [17:06] Nick change: Guest90394 -> cristhecrusader [17:06] .... .rpg? [17:06] And at any given time, the CPU is likely to be doing little or nothing. [17:06] God, I hope I have this damned thing right this time. [17:06] Takes too long to build a kernel. [17:06] cristhecrusader: ..are you on slackware? [17:06] Raela, he's REALLY mad at it [17:06] .rpm [17:06] yeah i am [17:06] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Some programs (notoriously pidgin), wake the CPU up constantly and impart a power cost on the system that's un-necessary. [17:06] And I'm still not sure I have the slack package built right either... the slackbuild Volkerding uses sucks. [17:07] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [17:07] Alan_Hicks: is stopping cpu-intensive processes enough, or do i have to use another application to take advantage of the fact that the cpu is idle and force it explicitly to shut down? [17:07] slackware doesn't do -devel packages. did you install alienbob's multilib? [17:07] My bet is he did not [17:07] no [17:07] Letting the CPU "sleep" as long as possible, then rushing to get as much done as quickly as possible so the CPU can go back to idle can result in large power savings. [17:07] havent found [17:07] ill look for it thanks [17:07] My Wiki is down (the whole server is) or I would have linked the multilib HOWTO [17:07] alienbob are you the coder? ;) [17:08] I am not a coder [17:08] I package up stuff, and write docs [17:08] and hes an alien [17:08] Of course [17:08] Action: alienBOB gives KaMii that alien hug [17:08] yay [17:08] Alan_Hicks: then i think i need an application that runs my pidgin (and other always-on but processor-lazy apps) only once a minute, or something like that. is that doable? [17:09] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:09] just surprised to find the coder in here ;) [17:09] I am not a coder [17:09] KaMii: what do you think about this new idea of mine? (see my latest question for Alan_Hicks) [17:09] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-128-114.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:10] i think your working too hard to save two pennies a year [17:10] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:10] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [17:10] KaMii: well, *apart* from that :P [17:10] some excellent links: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ http://kroah.com/lkn/ free PDF downloads :D [17:10] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.165.51) joined ##slackware. [17:10] KaMii: i am aware that i look a little too extremist, but i think they add up one by one little by little :) [17:10] i would not waste my time with it, unless you live in some country that has very limited power [17:10] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [17:10] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] troyjan: Not exactly. [17:11] WTF is up with cardinal... Alan_Hicks any idea? [17:11] well, also consider that sometimes you have to remove power used, so it's like a double cost [17:11] alienBOB: fuzzbawl's looking into it. [17:11] Troy, why don't you experiment.... If you don't have an ammeter, measuring the cpu temp (or better yet cpu fan speed) will tell you what works. [17:11] KaMii: economical crisis in my country, yes. and the bill. actually this is the main reason i started to give a fuck about this issue at all. [17:11] alienBOB: Says nagios alerted him, but I haven't heard back yet. [17:11] yeah, fuzzbawl left; said he'd keep us posted [17:12] language troyjan, there are children in here [17:12] alienBOB: Might want to join #cardinal. We try to pass updates around that channel when this sorta thing happens. [17:12] KaMii: sorry, i got used to dalnet [17:12] and well if your soo worried, then dont use computers anymore [17:12] pen + paper [17:13] KaMii: your last piece of advice sounds like a very bad idea, so i am forced to give it no consideration [17:14] worked for over 2000 years, or whenever paper/papyrus was invented [17:14] i know [17:14] i got no issues with (printed) paper [17:14] Alan_Hicks (~alan@71-22-248-18.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:14] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF5E6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:14] but there are too many things that it has no support for [17:14] you want to save energy, turn off your a/c and refigerator/freezer [17:15] paper games are very static and boring [17:15] shop for your food at the local market everyday [17:15] Alan_Hicks (3358@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [17:15] chess isnt static or boring [17:15] Um, KaMii, I have to agree with the boring part on chess... [17:16] i appreciate your suggestion, and i can see where you're coming from and i know it's saving a lot of electricity, but i still can't quit using my computer [17:16] Chess isn't boring at all! He's a really cool guy. [17:16] arfon: not when you do atomic fist of death on the chess board [17:16] Y'all ought not talk bad about him behind his back like a buncha cowards! [17:16] Oh.... the game.... right.... that is boring. [17:16] Now, THAT does sound like fun... [17:16] hahaha [17:17] Alan, what has chess ever done for me? [17:17] ..that sorry.... :) [17:17] sbopkg ! [17:17] arfon: sbopkg [17:17] arfon: he hasn't pooped on your keyboard [17:17] Damn... ninja'd. [17:17] I take that back [17:17] I <3 chess! [17:17] raela: is back with her poop stories again [17:17] Good point Raela! He has been better to me than some of my 'friends' [17:17] I don't tell many poop stories in here, really [17:18] arfon: see? look to the positive! [17:18] raela: You save that for -OT [17:18] Alan_Hicks: yup :) [17:18] what if it's Slackware-related poop? [17:18] arfon: sudden chess-earthquake is also fun to do [17:18] i hope this one makes sense: how many seconds does a cpu have to be idle before it turns off for saving power? [17:18] arfon: like Alan_Hicks.. he's not a bad guy. he hasn't kicked my dog yet (though I think he'd want to put a bullet in the one).. point is, he hasn't! [17:19] dmesg = slackware poop [17:19] KaMii, I can see why you REALLY keep your curtains closed. [17:19] troyjan: You're not really getting it are you? [17:19] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:19] I like Alan also. [17:19] Alan_Hicks: so it doesn't make sense. just as i feared. [17:20] As a matter of fact, I like everyone in the channel (that I have talked to). [17:20] he also bought me a beer (and several other people). really all, he's a great guy :P [17:20] arfon: no talking about my curtains [17:20] Alan_Hicks: which part sounds most stupid? [17:20] Did yu catch them on fire? [17:20] troyjan: A cpu's idle state is more or less it's natural, do nothing, state. It doesn't ever "turn off". [17:20] troyjan: you probably don't need all three computers on all the time [17:20] no arfon i have not started any fires oday [17:20] today [17:20] The only way to turn a CPU off is to stop running electricity through it. [17:20] Alan_Hicks: so "idle" already means "almost zero power consumption"? [17:21] Youre getting to be a better cook already! YAY! [17:21] Agh. [17:21] im banned from the kitchen remember [17:21] smartasstronaut (~jay@adsl-240-69-177.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] troyjan: More like "minimal power consumption". It varies per processor. Saying "almost zero" might be correct for some chips and not for others. It's very subjective. [17:21] Yeah but Nuclear Death Blow Chess sounds kinda fire-starter-ish [17:22] Is there a way to turn off a particular compiled-in driver? Or is it different for each? [17:22] haha [17:22] Specifically, vesafb needs to be turned off... [17:22] Alan_Hicks: thanks [17:22] arfon: That's simple. Just play it in a vacuum! With no oxygen, there can be no fire! [17:22] Red, recompile as modules [17:22] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] That'll be another hour. [17:22] Ugh. [17:22] slow hardware ? [17:22] Well... technically that's not true either, since some things burn in the presence of nitrogen. [17:22] But Alan, with no vacuum, there's no Arfon either. and dying would make me sad. [17:22] ok does this make sense, so my parents bann me from the kitchen because of the 3 fires (they still dont know about the fourth) but they allow me to have candles in my room [17:23] KaMii: on the off chance that it's related to slackware somehow, come again ? [17:23] Yeah, your parents don't quite get it do they? [17:23] KaMii: Makes perfect sense. They like the kitchen. [17:23] smartasstronaut_ (~jay@adsl-240-69-177.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:23] but my room is the best room in the house [17:23] i even have my own living room [17:23] well, if you light the bedroom on fire and get stuck inside.. natural selection [17:23] And at any given time, you're more likely to be in your bedroom than your kitchen. [17:24] Is that where the Slackintosh lives? [17:24] yes [17:24] all 3 of my computers live in my living room [17:24] Then it IS the best room in the house [17:24] i know [17:24] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] (is Slackintosh dead?) [17:24] nopes [17:24] (the distro) [17:25] arfon: what else is slackintosh? [17:25] Are they gonna release a 13.x? [17:25] i read somewhere the reason why its in 12.1 is becasue the developer lost his ppc, i think it died [17:25] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:25] but some others are trying to get up to 13.1 i heard [17:25] Well, slackintosh could be KaMii's laptop [17:25] the last changelog update was on 1 july 2010 [17:25] ehhh, i cannot develop slackintosh [17:26] novacrust (~Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:26] They need some kinda of package maker/doc writer to get it to 13.1..... hmmmm.... [17:26] it would take years just to compile everything on my iBook G4 [17:26] [Looks at alienBOB] [17:26] but i would donate my cpu for the effort [17:26] yea i need a G4 to stick nix on [17:26] if people give me scripts to compile, i will do it [17:26] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:27] I think the compiling is the easy part K, it's the 'why did it fail this time' that is the hard part. [17:27] ya [17:28] but they need computers [17:28] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [17:28] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [17:28] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:28] maybe, idk, cant really see the need personally to have 13.1 on slackintosh [17:28] G4, is that Intel based? [17:28] or is that PPC [17:28] depends [17:28] mine is ppc, the last models were intel [17:29] 13.1 is {{{{WONDERFUL}}}} (did you notice that my voice went higher there?) [17:29] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:30] dfrank (~dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:30] KaMii, I think you might have to take 2 of your computers and trade them in to get a new box [17:30] Then you can run 13.1 [17:30] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.152.15) joined ##slackware. [17:30] hahaha [17:30] i run 13.1 on my desktop [17:31] Oh, nvrmnd then [17:31] and 11.0 on my ibm thinkpad 760E [17:31] 11?!? [17:31] with a whole 64 megs of ram [17:31] Ah [17:31] i only use it for irc and snownews [17:31] I have an old Slack 3 CD set if you want faster :) [17:31] and sshing into my other computers when im too lazy to get off the couch [17:32] haha [17:32] i had slack 4, but it was too primitive [17:32] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:32] Action: arfon likes to VNC (because he's too lazy to figure out remote-X) [17:33] I'd be impressed if you had Slack 5 [17:33] or 6 [17:33] why [17:33] why not use new slack ? you can choose a minimal install, and a lean setup should work fine in 64M [17:33] Yeah, 6 was a good-un [17:33] the best [17:34] so how would one use rsync to delete a directory on destination that is not on the source without synching the rest of the file tree? [17:34] Slack 6 never pooped my my keyboard either. [17:34] you know how hard it was to get 11 on this machine [17:34] no cd, no internal ethernet [17:34] only floppy [17:34] 3.5 to 2.5 IDE adapter? [17:34] it was a PAIN [17:34] no usb [17:35] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:35] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:35] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [17:35] I used the adpater to get it on my old 486 laptop [17:35] 4% at goodwill [17:35] $5 [17:35] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:36] arfon: that's a cool idea - stage up the disk from a working computer, then continue with the install on the destination computer [17:37] 1 [17:37] That's the only way I could do it [17:38] Luckily for my netbook, USBboot.img and a USB harddrive worked like a charm [17:38] i had to partition, put All of A and the N packgaes I wanted [17:38] then booted with boot disk, installed a and n [17:38] then got online and grabbed the rest i wanted [17:38] then turned the partition into my ~/ [17:38] Did you do a network install after that? [17:38] yea [17:39] Clever [17:39] the only way i could think to do it [17:39] wertik_ (~wertik@95-26-103-196.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:40] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-232-81-157.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:40] but i had to use a dos bootdisk with my zipdrive drivers on it to do the initial transfer [17:41] and so that drive started out as a fat partition [17:41] Nick change: dip_ -> dip [17:41] zipslack failed to recognize my zipdrive [17:41] jonsmith1982 (~jon@78.145.117.135) joined ##slackware. [17:42] OMG! You still have a zipdrive??? [17:42] im surprised it worked becuse this hdd is trash, ineed a new one, there are bad sectors on it [17:42] what do you mean still have one? its older than me [17:43] wow. [17:43] i found it in a box, and no one was using it [17:43] so i took it [17:43] Throw that thing at your nosy neighbor. [17:43] but i sorta blew up the powersupply [17:43] :S [17:43] it was funny, all the lights went out [17:43] Nuclear Chess? [17:44] how would i got about fixing a graphics card on a laptop? swapping i mean. [17:44] Are you sure th card is bad? [17:44] quite sure. [17:44] uhh, the zipdrive came from the USA and I just plugged it in with an adapter didnt check to see if it needed a converter.... ya, it needed a converter [17:44] Alot of the laptops, the card just plugs in on top og the MB [17:45] under the keyboard usually [17:45] find a replacement on ebay, kijiji, cheapcycle, local shop, whatever & then tear into it & replace it [17:45] What Aplhageek said [17:46] so now i learned never plug things into the wall that came from the usa or its going to blow up [17:46] good advice even in the USA [17:47] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D4BB4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:47] ow's that 220V working out for ya KaMii? [17:47] hehe [17:47] well i learned that 110 hardware cant take 220 [17:47] well it can, but only for a few minutes [17:47] To be honest KaMii, all of the current computer/laptop powersupplies are auto switching [17:48] ya, they do now [17:48] but that thing didnt [17:48] Was that fire #4? [17:48] my macintosh auto switches [17:48] must have been quite old [17:48] no, no fire on that one [17:48] only fires happened in the kitchen, and fire #4 was me making coffee [17:48] the ac adapter for my p2/266 craptop can autosense 110/220 [17:49] Wow, Alpha, I didn't think somethingthat old would autoswitch [17:49] anyone an idea what i could do ? [17:49] m3tti go get a hamburger? [17:50] ^^ me likey [17:50] hrm nice idea but i have to get rid of that kilos XD [17:50] m3tti: helps if we know what kinda laptop it is [17:51] and well really, thats not a slackware question, its more a hardware question for that brand of computer [17:51] If you measured your weight in pounds, it would sound less m3tti... [17:52] XD [17:52] hahaha [17:52] Uh, I got that backwards, nvrmnd [17:52] Action: KaMii measures in kilos so I dont sound like im annorexic [17:52] or, wait, ya that was backwards [17:52] it isn't much but i want a litle bit more less kilos XD [17:52] blah [17:52] im lost [17:53] i dont get the other system [17:53] lb = .4kg [17:53] on i thoughg 1 pound was 2.2 kilos [17:53] i had it backwards [17:53] Measure yourself in stones! [17:53] haha [17:54] i would weigh like 2 [17:54] or how much is a stone [17:54] Heck K, you may be right, I'm going on memory [17:54] 1 stone = 14lb [17:54] 14 lbs = 1 stone [17:55] Where's the Brits/Irish in the channel? [17:55] so i weigh like 8 stone or something like that [17:55] i weigh just shy of 9 stone [17:55] wow, i fee so big... [17:56] i'm around 16 stone [17:56] i gained weight. im going to assume its in muscle from walking to work [17:56] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:56] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-232-81-157.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:56] Prooly the walking to work, past the doughnut shop.... [17:56] mmmm, doughnuts [17:56] haha no there's naught but trees, office buildings, and a post office on the way to work [17:57] whatever 50 kg converts to [17:57] thats what i weigh [17:57] KaMii: 8 stone sounds right [17:57] light as a feather [17:57] maco: eww, sounds like an area bad for pedestrians [17:58] gull: there's sidewalks most of the way [17:58] oh cool [17:58] only one office building lacks sidewalk, so then i walk on grass [17:58] Then how did you gain weight? [17:58] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-81-235.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] oh, heh, i read that wrong - i thought you said "no trees" at first :P [17:58] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:58] arfon: muscle weighs more than fat. its more dense [17:59] Yeah maco, that must be it... wink wink [17:59] 60% of your body is water [17:59] stop drinking [17:59] But cow juice tatses so good [17:59] arfon: meh, by "gained weight" i mean "5-10 pounds" [17:59] which means maybe im not underweight anymore? [18:00] Action: maco does not consume cow juice [18:00] everyone tells me to gain weight [18:00] I'm just messing with you maco. :) [18:00] but its impossible [18:00] i just cant [18:00] i can eat and eat all day, and do nothing, and i still dont gain weight [18:00] KaMii: thats how i was until my dad bought an ice cream store [18:00] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:00] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-47-126.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:00] KaMii, one day your metabolism will slow down and then it will suck [18:00] hahaha [18:01] i started gaining weight when i started eating 5 ice cream cones and drinking 3 milk shakes a day [18:01] maybe arfon but today is not that day [18:01] You're right K, party until then :) [18:01] but then lactose intolerance hit, and i dropped back down to being underweight and have stayed there since [18:01] Action: KaMii eats chocolate and that has tons of calories, i dont gain nothing [18:01] dark or milk? [18:01] dark [18:01] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:01] Sorry to hear that maco, I love milk [18:02] yeah dark's good for you.... [18:02] milk chocolate is for the weak [18:02] and it tastes like poop [18:02] Well guy, I gotta go..... Hamburger time! [18:02] :) [18:02] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:02] hahaha [18:02] the amount of ice cream i just described is equivalent to your full daily recommended 2000 calories... and i ate that in addition to all my meals [18:02] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:02] but i would cry if i couldnt eat cheese anymore [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430460.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] there are some fairly convincing soy cheeses now, like teese and daiya [18:03] sacreligoius [18:03] could be contributing to my recent weight gain. that and vegan chocolate brownies a la mode (by which i mean soy ice cream on top) [18:03] i bought some mac & chreese the other day to try [18:03] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-21-126.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:04] <_devnull> vegans are fuckin fat. [18:04] oh time to get off the bus [18:04] ya but thats not cheese its powdere yellow stuff that sorta immitates cheese flavor [18:04] <_devnull> replacing meat with a loaf of bread [18:04] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] <_devnull> carbs [18:04] carbs are necessary to digestion [18:04] (by which i mean fibre) [18:05] also help if you're into competitive sports [18:06] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:06] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [18:06] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: And Punt [18:06] <_devnull> yeah some carbs are needed [18:06] <_devnull> no the amount a vegan eats. [18:06] <_devnull> not* [18:07] _devnull (devnull@SDF.ORG) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 stop [18:12] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:14] how silly [18:14] as if there arent healthy and unhealthy eaters of every variety [18:15] protein is needed too, but not in the amount the average anti-veg eats (too much will stop your bones absorbing calcium) [18:15] vegans annoy me [18:16] i like vegans. they make food that tastes good and wont make me stuck within 10ft of the bathroom for 6hr [18:16] i guess devnull only ever met junk food vegetarians? some of us eat broccoli and spinach... [18:17] and beans. yummy yummy beans [18:19] trhodes (~tom@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] reading that just gave me gas [18:21] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:21] haha this is such a bad movie [18:21] shonudo: you have to soak them and rinse off the bubbles before you boil them [18:22] gets the starches out so you dont get gas [18:22] cristhecrusader (~root@pD9505D73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:22] maco, i know -- (it was a joke) [18:22] (i dont think thats done before they get canned though, so... *shrug* i buy dried) [18:27] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:29] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:30] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [18:32] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:33] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:33] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. 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[19:02] did you know that you have to be registered for 2 weeks befor the staffers will give u a "unaffilated" flag? [19:03] no i didnt.. but it kinda makes sense [19:03] it does but i didnt know that [19:03] staffers of what? [19:03] KaMii: this network [19:03] freenode [19:04] oh, ive been registerd for a long time [19:04] where do you see flags? [19:04] i just learned about registering today....ive never actually spent anytime in irc till recently [19:06] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.47) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:07] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:07] err, nickserv sends a message at login telling you to register [19:07] how come did you learn about registering today? [19:08] it does?? [19:08] macavity, why are you back? [19:09] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:10] nachox: heh i never read the stuff at the beinning but it sure does. The reason i learned about it today was because i was curious about the unaffilated flags people had [19:10] nachox: so in the course of googling it i saw that :) [19:11] where do you see these flags? [19:12] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-179-12-98.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:12] KaMii: everytime a person logs in [19:13] KaMii: or leaves [19:13] i turn off join and part messages [19:13] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-126.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:13] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [19:13] so i never saw it [19:13] I never said that [19:13] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:13] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:14] KaMii: yah it usually says a persons ip address and their cable company [19:14] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:15] so does a whois, but i dont see any unafiliated on whois [19:16] o they show up periodically [19:17] ok [19:18] KaMii: next time i see one i can tell you if you'd like [19:18] ok [19:24] jeev: because i figured i needed to pester your life a little more [19:24] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [19:27] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Quit: = gone [19:28] telperion (~Adium@190.156.36.117) joined ##slackware. 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[19:48] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430460.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:48] i saw "rip panzer" in the topic [19:48] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-21-196.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:49] ruben23 (~ITadmin@125.212.40.2) joined ##slackware. [19:49] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [19:49] hi guys any ways i can scrub a number on and existing list..? like i have 2000- number listed file where it is also in my 1200 list file, i want to remove 2000 kist number to make my final file be 8000 files. [19:50] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left irc: Client Quit [19:50] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:50] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [19:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:52] ruben23: do you want to delete line #2000 in a text file? or can you remake your question? [19:53] yes, your question is kinda poor :p [19:54] ruben23: repeating the same question in multiple channels, without even caring to check grammar or spelling, is just bad [19:54] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:54] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] troyjan: ok this is the situation, i have a file named input.csv who have 12000 list detaisl in it, and also i got a file name dnc.csv who have 2000 lsit file on it but this file are also added to the input.csv file which is 12000, my goal is to remove the 2000 list on my 12000, making it 8000 list on the final output of the file [19:55] hope this is more clear [19:58] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:00] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:02] ruben23: it looks more clear, but i still have to make sure i got it: so you want to remove lines from input.csv (which is 12,000 lines) such as to satisfy two criteria (1) the removed lines also exist in dnc.csv; (2) the resulting input.csv.processed should not be more than 8000 lines? [20:02] s/criteria/conditions/ [20:03] jd- (jds@76.177.195.56) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:05] troyjan:yes, bu to be clear, this line means numbers...the 2000 list is 2000- numbers should be remove form 12000 lsit number, makeing it 8000 number, becasue there is a duplicate number for both files. [20:06] halcon (~halcon@S0106002275466fa5.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:07] ruben23: have you had a look at uniq(1)? [20:08] macavity: what you mean..? this purpose is like scrubbing a unwanted numbers on an existing list [20:08] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [20:10] i am having a little difficulty understanding your exact problem.. partly due to the typos (i am slightly dyslexic) [20:10] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:11] anyhow, gotta go... movie time [20:11] ciao [20:12] ruben23: macavity is right. so, before my final decision as to what you mean, let me ask you an aesthetic question, if i am allowed: why do i feel like you're implying that 12,000 - 2,000 = 8,000? is it because i am missing something or is it just a quick miscalculation? [20:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:14] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:15] ruben23: i don't want to propagate the potential confusion, so let me make it explicit that the assumption behind my "aesthetic question" was that (obviously) 12,000 - 2,000 = 10,000 [20:15] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:16] ruben23: also, if (by any chance) the 2000 lines are duplicates, why don't you call them "4000 lines"? [20:17] powtrix- (~powtrix@189-69-29-238.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:18] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-196.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:18] Nick change: powtrix- -> powtrix [20:18] ruben23: (in which case, i must tell you that forcing your text to mean two many incidentally connected things is not a good idea) [20:18] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.63.253) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:18] basically 12000-2000 = 10,000 <------------so sorry [20:20] ruben23: try this command "cat input.csv | uniq -u" and tell me if it seems it did the job [20:20] Fjorgynn (~gothenbur@unaffiliated/gothenburg) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:20] ruben23: i hope you didn't lie about the real name of the file and i assume you've cd'ed into its directory :P [20:21] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:21] ruben23: if it doesn't do the job, tell me if the duplicates are consecutive or scattered all over the file [20:22] greetings and salutations [20:22] troyjan: where is the 2000 file on that command..? [20:22] dont we need to specify the 2000 file to be remove on 12000 files..? [20:22] ruben23: we do [20:22] skycrash (~sky@187.112.202.35) joined ##slackware. [20:22] with that command..? [20:22] it was just a misunderstanding [20:23] are you allowed to reorder the lines in input.csv? [20:23] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Fjorgynn (~gothenbur@c-3cabe655.118-10-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:25] ruben23: if reordering doesn't hurt, try "cat input.csv dnc.csv |sort |uniq -u" and tell me if it did what you needed [20:26] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:26] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) joined ##slackware. [20:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Fjorgynn (~gothenbur@c-3cabe655.118-10-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Changing host [20:27] Fjorgynn (~gothenbur@unaffiliated/gothenburg) joined ##slackware. [20:27] ok [20:27] wait [20:30] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:34] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:37] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:37] ruben23: did it work? [20:37] crap, my suse crashed... [20:38] nachox: heh? [20:38] nachox: use slackware [20:38] nachox: did you sort out your mysql issue before? [20:38] thumbs, that is what i am testing. i cannot use slackware because the client i'm working for is using suse [20:39] thumbs, but i think i have fixed it in the end [20:39] Nick change: Yandertal -> Yandertal_away [20:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:39] Yandertal_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [20:39] nachox: ah, I was busy then, let me know if you have more issues with it. [20:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:40] thumbs, now i have issues with suse :P [20:40] how can i silently set my mode to away? [20:40] type /away [20:40] i think i crashed it too badly and i can now only mount / read only [20:41] nachox: that I can't help with. Apache httpd and mysqld, /pm me. [20:41] thanks, maco [20:42] thumbs, i've been promoted :) [20:42] nachox: at work? Nice! [20:42] ruben23: come back and tell me what you did. i'm curious. [20:42] this is just great... [20:42] troyjan: oh put a message with too, like "/away lunch" and then to come back its just "/away" with no message [20:42] i cant believe suse failed like that [20:42] troyjan:yes [20:42] i will [20:43] but we got [20:43] thumbs, i am now a senior consultant [20:43] power blockout [20:43] on the otehr office [20:43] i need to wait [20:43] nachox: glad to hear that, mate. [20:44] i didnt know you were the op in #mysql too [20:44] nachox: and the /pm offer still stands for httpd / mysqld issues [20:44] nachox: I am. [20:44] thank you mate [20:45] user2438 (~user45925@99.135.13.31) joined ##slackware. [20:46] ruben23: oh, ok :) [20:46] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-21-30.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:47] troyjan:also, is it possible to symlink accros another server, across a lan network.>? [20:47] :) [20:48] ruben23: i guess you can, if you sshfs into it [20:48] uff, the filesystem was a bit busted [20:48] nachox: ext4? [20:49] troyjan: is it stable..? i mean the directory..being symlink to the next server or will timeout always [20:49] ext3, SLES wouldnt use a new filesystem such as ext4 [20:49] nachox: well, YMMY, but I prefer reiserfs for cases for sudden shutdowns may occur [20:50] ruben23: it's as usable (stable?) as your connection, of course [20:50] j0z_ (unix@201.22.46.5.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:50] j0z_ (unix@201.22.46.5.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:50] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [20:50] ruben23: i don't see why you'd worry about timeouts, though [20:51] thumbs, i try to avoid everything but ext3 in linux. not because i trust the fs, but because its the most tested one. i avoid linux if i can use solaris though :P [20:51] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:51] troyjan: so how to do it..? [20:51] ruben23: however, i'm not sure you can do the symlinking. it's more like wishful assumption. [20:52] ah, lovely, it is working now [20:52] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:52] nachox: I hear you, but every time I've lost data, it was with ext3 [20:52] lets hope it didnt break any useful thing [20:55] user2438 (~user45925@99.135.13.31) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:55] troyjan: any guide on how to setup sshfs..? [20:56] ruben23: it's pretty straightforward, just install it and read manual [20:57] ruben23: however, even if you can't symlink, it's still comfortable to have the other computer's filesystem available on your system as a partition, don't you think? [20:59] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:00] i just want a directory where recordings are save be avalable to the other server [21:00] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:01] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [21:02] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:03] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:03] ruben23: then you will *love* sshfs [21:04] ok [21:04] i will [21:06] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.13.15) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:06] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:06] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:08] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:10] troyjan: thanks [21:10] have a nice day [21:10] ruben23: the csv? [21:12] ill be back with you in a couple of minutes [21:12] ruben23 (ITadmin@125.212.40.2) left ##slackware. [21:14] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:18] AEnima1577 (~asdfjkl@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:18] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [21:19] AEnima1577 (~asdfjkl@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:21] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:24] Alan_Hicks (3358@connie.slackware.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:26] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] are there freenode admins somewhere? [21:28] i need to report some people [21:28] for soliciting sex from me [21:28] KaMii: #freenode [21:29] #freenode (and they'll probably tell you to /ignore) [21:29] ok thanks [21:29] oh.. well they are breaking the rules [21:29] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:29] i'd just ignore them [21:29] the channel admins should be able to ban them [21:29] i ignore all pms automatically [21:30] and then exempt people when needed [21:30] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:30] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] they are not pm messaging me, they are openly being sexual in the #MacOSX room [21:31] and keep asking me for naked pictures [21:31] oh [21:32] well then ignore them explicitly [21:32] i'm sure someone will clean up that mess eventually [21:32] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.139) joined ##slackware. [21:32] did you ask the #macosx admins to check them out? [21:32] but you don't have to put up with it until they do [21:32] they are all afk [21:32] yeah uhh.. that's pretty typical of irc. ignore them, alert an op, etc [21:33] i swear go in that room you will never want to touch a macintosh again [21:33] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:33] does it matter if didn't before i went in/ [21:33] il_gelataio (~antonio@host2-251-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:34] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [21:34] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [21:34] KaMii: here's what you do.. if there is no bot that reads off link names.. direct them to a shock site (making sure to nsfw the link) [21:34] if you aren't light of heart, find a disgusting picture, name it something plausible, and send them that [21:35] if it does read link names, use a url shortener with a preview feature [21:35] something like this works: (not sure if this is nsfw.. she's too large to actually see anything) http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/raelakoira/hawtness.jpg [21:36] KaMii: i highly recommend the photo from pythong.org [21:36] I knew one girl that got really creative.. she found a picture of a naked transvestite lying on a bed and photoshopped her head onto it [21:36] its not nsfw either! [21:36] smartasstronaut (~jay@adsl-240-69-95.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] that seems alot of work for something that would offend women, but prolly not a man [21:37] il_gelataio (~antonio@host2-251-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [21:37] lol im not doing that [21:37] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:37] this is also a good one if you've never shared a pic.. several pics of a hawt girl, safe for work, leading up to it: (NSFW SERIOUSLY) http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CEMQFjAK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbaklas.com%2F&ei=iNpQTKmMKsaAlAfVyNC7CQ&usg=AFQjCNGIj4yHqaqnSOeFcsgyzwFmNL33dA [21:37] Skywise: nah.. the guys got pissy when they saw penis :P [21:38] raela: yep - good one [21:38] they're only acting [21:38] DAMNIT GOOGLE [21:38] http://baklas.com/ (NSFW) [21:38] looks almost like one of the guys at the lax noc [21:38] someone told me that their punishment for guys who put bikini/lingerie slides in presentations is to make them stare at pythong.org [21:38] (before the baklas.com link) [21:38] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [21:38] ok - same link [21:39] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:39] still looks like one of the guys at the lax noc [21:39] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:40] alisonken1home: yeah, I don't like how copy link location grabs the long ass google redirect [21:40] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) joined ##slackware. [21:41] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) joined ##slackware. [21:43] vhann (~vhann@142-217-21-94.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.108) joined ##slackware. [21:44] geez i have not talked in that room for over 10 minutes and they are still trying to troll me [21:45] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [21:45] KaMii: what channel? [21:45] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:45] KaMii, it will be their bed time soon enough [21:45] ##slackware? :) [21:46] Can someone run "grep '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/' /var/log/packages/*" ? [21:46] And tell me the result [21:46] haha no in #MacOSX [21:47] it should be called #troll [21:47] KaMii: never been there. [21:47] vhann: no results [21:47] vhann: no results here [21:47] kill the first / :> [21:47] dont waste your time [21:48] vhann: without the leading slash, results are mesa-7.8.1 [21:48] thrice`: Thanks, that found it :D [21:48] okay, following thrice`, I have two results in /var/log/packages/fglrx-x750-8.732-x86-1 and lots in mesa [21:48] their ops are worthless also, they dont op, they just sit there [21:48] I have 15 .so files listed in there [21:48] (mesa) [21:49] alisonken1home: Yeah, it's alright, thrice` 's advice helped me find it on my own system [21:49] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:49] ok, back to udev now [21:49] KaMii: if so, this is the most pathetic "trolling" I've seen since nothing is happening [21:49] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:49] whats some sweet blue tooth interfacing software? [21:50] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [21:50] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:50] vhann, and adding something like: | cut -d: -f1 | cut -d/ -f5 | sort | uniq will trim the results [21:50] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [21:51] KaMii: as a result.. I assume 1) you have extremely thin skin and 2) want attention :) [21:51] alisonken1home: how can I check to make sure a udev rule is being called and used? [21:51] thrice`: Just needed the package name, but thanks (now, gotta find why direct rendering doesn't work) [21:52] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [21:52] raela: they stopped before you came in [21:52] right. [21:52] if you want the logs, and are bored i can give them to you [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F6EF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] usus12jari (~ashe@118.96.234.105) joined ##slackware. [21:53] I joined when they were "still at it" assuming that was an active attempt instead of no doubt a stray, possibly related, comment [21:53] well i was have private messages with two adimins in there and they said they would stop it and they did [21:53] you want those logs also? [21:54] KaMii: the closes thing I can think of is look at the "RUN" option that calls a logging script [21:55] then come in here and say how worthless the admins are and how it hurt poor little you? no, I'm done with it, and I'll take it out of this channel now [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488F204.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] uhhh, where do I find the run option? I am having this feeling that udev is just not calling on my rule thats why the palm wont sync when im logged in as user [21:56] raela: are you really upset with KaMii? [21:56] man udev [21:57] vhann (~vhann@142-217-21-94.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:57] troyjan: upset? no, that implies caring more than I do [21:57] ananke, around? [21:58] kinda [21:58] i see. this makes me curious: what of what he said disturbed you? [21:58] Action: ananke is finishing packaging some software [21:58] anybody use dropbox or like this ? [21:58] skycrash: i don't [21:58] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.221.48) joined ##slackware. [21:58] skycrash: i use spideroak, which is similar [21:58] ananke, do you use any sort of console to view syslog events? [21:59] troyjan: ;-) [21:59] no, i don't use spideroak either [21:59] nachox: nope. [21:59] ananke: thankz [21:59] crap [21:59] skycrash: :) [21:59] ananke: i never heard, but ill try [22:00] nachox: i used to have a web based system, and some other console software. eventually i gave up, haven't had the time to keep up [22:00] skycrash: their clients are very easy to use [on all platforms, including windows/macosx/iphone/linux], and they have very decent pricing scheme [22:00] ouch. i am playing with logzilla but it sucks bad to setup in anything but ubuntu [22:01] im not understanding the man udev page about the RUN option [22:02] it just says what it is, but not how to use it [22:03] we got an interesting e-mail today, sent to one of our administrative accounts: "Hey I'm tom I'm 24 will u please stop blocking o restricting certain sites on my phone please [22:03] Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®" [22:03] ananke, you dont happen to remember what application it was, right? [22:03] 'u' ? [22:03] I hate instant-messaging acronyms. [22:04] probably hate retarded looking abbreviations too. [22:04] nachox: something with php & syslog-ng in its name. you logged to mysql from your syslog-ng, and then you had this php frontend [22:04] ut: pardon me? [22:04] Action: ut scores one for pedantry [22:04] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:04] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:04] ananke, php-syslog-ng [22:04] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [22:04] its not called logzilla [22:04] nachox: http://code.google.com/p/php-syslog-ng/ [22:05] ut: there is a difference between 'u' and 'FYI', 'YMMY', and so on. [22:05] that's what i've been fighting all afternoon with [22:05] nachox: it's 'not' or it's 'now'? [22:05] sorry, now [22:05] morning lads o/ [22:05] ahh, yeah [22:05] ut: the former is immature, the latter is not. [22:05] 3am datacenter failover o.0 [22:05] thumbs: yeah.. FYI being acronym, u being abbreviation.. :P [22:05] nachox: so looks like i used to use that [22:05] yes. that's exactly what i meant. [22:06] abbreviations are fine, unless one abuses them. [22:06] wtf [22:07] =P [22:07] phrag: it started with a 'u' instead of 'you'. [22:07] KaMii: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html [22:07] alisonken1home: i already have a udev rule, im just wanting to see if its actually being used [22:08] Action: nachox bows to phrag [22:08] thumbs: we're speaking semantics, not content [22:08] KaMii: there's an example on that link on how to use the RUN optoin [22:08] option [22:09] oh, so the RUN option is used inside a rule? [22:10] you can also use udevtest to see if your rule passes basic testing [22:10] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [22:10] unable to open device '/etc/udev/rules.d/01-palm.rules' [22:11] i thought that was the case [22:11] its not using my rule [22:11] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-156-019.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:11] did you see the USB Palm Pilot section on that page as well? [22:12] you know how many palm device rules i have tried, they all dont work [22:12] CTCP DCC: GET\rPRIVMSG\40##slackware\40:just\40for\40lulz\40\r from am0rphis (am0rphis!qwe@79.124.165.51) to ##slackware [22:12] JUST FOR LULZ [22:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:12] JUST FOR LULZ [22:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:12] JUST FOR LULZ [22:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:12] KB1JWQ (~KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) joined ##slackware. [22:13] and ya thats the same rule I have [22:13] wtf.. did anyone else get a dcc from here? [22:13] i did [22:13] .:22:09:44:. DCC unknown GET\rPRIVMSG\40##slackware\40:just\40for\40lulz\40\r from am0rphis [] [22:13] raela, yeah [22:13] ya i got it too [22:13] from someone out of the channel it seems [22:13] ohh [22:13] *odd [22:13] :) [22:13] whats up? [22:13] am0rphis: thats not cool [22:13] oh there we go [22:13] am0rphis: don't do that. [22:13] tab fail at first [22:14] ok/sorry [22:14] AEnima1577 (~asdfjkl@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:15] wtf am0rphis [22:15] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) joined ##slackware. [22:15] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:15] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*qwe@79.124.165.*' by rworkman!3356@about/slackware/rworkman [22:15] am0rphis kicked from ##slackware by rworkman: am0rphis [22:15] idiot [22:15] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!3356@about/slackware/rworkman [22:15] hi [22:15] had he dont this in the past? [22:16] err done [22:16] technically he's violating network policy doing that [22:16] nachox: I recognise the mask from my channels. [22:16] Not that I know of, but that's stupid. The ban will expire automatically and he can come back. [22:16] i dont know whats wrong with my fingers :P [22:16] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] fair enough [22:17] well that's interesting. [22:17] oh i think i foung my error [22:17] Now, if netops kline him, that's their business. :) [22:18] Ok, what exactly did he do? I'm new to IRC stuff. [22:19] tpocra (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: tpocra [22:19] stormtracknole: a channel-wide CTCP [22:19] dcc spam [22:19] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) left irc: Quit: sukaeto [22:19] jd- (~jds@76.177.195.56) joined ##slackware. [22:19] tpocra (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: alisonken1home [22:19] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:19] funny thing, I thought i had blocked incoming ctcp [22:19] what should i do to ensure i can make my printer and wireless stick work with a new slackware installation? [22:19] guess not [22:19] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:20] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] how did all notice that? I didn't see anything on my screen. [22:20] jd-, test them? [22:20] i have an HP deskjet F-4240 [22:20] nachox, ok brb [22:20] jd- (~jds@76.177.195.56) left irc: Client Quit [22:20] notice in status stormtracknole [22:20] stormtracknole: it was in the freenode server window - not the channel window [22:20] stormtracknole: see window 1 in irssi [22:21] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:21] Oh....got it! [22:21] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-9-196.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-9-196.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [22:22] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [22:22] I'm curious - htose of you who pasted that in the channel, did you do it yourself, or was it automatic? [22:22] automatic for me [22:22] pasted what? [22:22] I got a "lost connection" recycle [22:22] and mine showed alisonken1home pasting it [22:22] 19:09 < alisonken1home> JUST FOR LULZ [22:22] 19:09 < sukaeto> JUST FOR LULZ [22:22] Twice each [22:23] ya i go that also rworkman [22:23] ah - wasn't me [22:23] ya, didnt think it was you alisonken1home [22:23] i saw all 3 of them [22:23] KB1JWQ: then that guy deserves a kline imo; he's got a client exploit apparently. [22:23] because it happened soo fast [22:23] i saw tpocra, alisonken1home, and sukaeto all say it [22:23] Not major, but still [22:23] rworkman: Last time I checked we didn't give klines upon request. [22:23] wannabe hacker on irc [22:24] KB1JWQ: I'm not requesting it. [22:24] I'm using kvirc 4.0 on this end [22:24] wait [22:24] Nick change: Yandertal -> Yandertal_away [22:24] Yandertal_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [22:24] I LOVE that bot. Holy CRAP. [22:24] rworkman: Look at the DCC string [22:24] hehe [22:24] its a PRIVMSG [22:24] to ##slackware [22:24] anyone vulnerable to it.. PRIVMSG's the channel [22:25] hmm - looks like kvirc 4.0.0 may be vuln then [22:25] I would say so [22:25] john_dee (~id@93-81-139-238.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [22:25] and apparently irssi isn't [22:25] nop irssi isnt [22:25] unless your client doesnt support DCC [22:25] xchat isnt either [22:25] which mine doesnt... i use quassel [22:25] i got the message but it didnt do anything [22:26] im on an old xchat [22:26] 2.6.6 [22:26] how to disable DCC support ? [22:26] settings preferences usually [22:26] interesting - I saw the lulz msg from tpocra and sukaeto (twice each), but didn't see the message from me [22:26] KB1JWQ: to clarify my intent: I'm not requesting a kline, I'm just pointing out that I've seen it happen automatically on DCC sends, which is what that guy did. I was making sure you were aware of it. If that's unwelcome, then I'll not do it again - I wasn't aware. [22:27] i need dcc to talk to my bot so i cant disable it [22:27] KaMii: what bot? [22:27] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:27] not on this server [22:27] ah [22:27] almost busted. Heh. [22:27] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] pft no need for a bot in here [22:27] i use it on icq [22:28] my social room i have there [22:28] for my friends only so my bot kick bans everyone else [22:28] people sill use icq? [22:28] wow [22:28] I think I still remember my icq number [22:28] Dominian: I am logged in every say [22:28] s/say/day/ [22:28] slck-o (~cris@189.26.1.75.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:29] no not icq, their irc server [22:29] Dominian: you say, on an irc network :D [22:29] irc.icq.com [22:29] ut: ? [22:29] I'm not talking abou tirc.icq.com [22:29] I'm talking about the icq client [22:29] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-185-178.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] I still remember my userid when icq had a stupid IM type client [22:29] i meant that irc is older. isn't it? [22:30] oh yeah [22:30] oh but i was talking about their irc server, thats where my bot lives [22:30] by a long shot [22:30] haha i didnt know folks still used icq [22:30] no rI [22:30] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.233) joined ##slackware. [22:30] I'm going to see if is till remember my login and pass [22:30] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.221.48) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:30] ha! [22:30] no way.. I still remember my freakin' ICQ password [22:31] Action: ut thinks he had an icq account once, but doesn't remember. [22:31] let me guess, its Dominian [22:31] heya,folks [22:31] now all his old girlfriends are going to pm him [22:31] KaMii: nope [22:31] howdy MLanden [22:31] back then there weren't "names" or "nicks" [22:31] Nick change: slck-o -> |Slacker| [22:31] heya zaythan [22:31] it was just a long ass number [22:32] Dominian: I'll add you on icq! [22:32] Action: nachox is off to sleep [22:32] no Dominian i mean your password, im guessing your name is your password [22:32] night people [22:32] Dominian: and spam seemed the worst on icq, somehow [22:32] night, nachox [22:32] nachox: g'night :) [22:33] night nachoz [22:33] rworkman, btw, hows your little girl? [22:33] nachox* [22:35] nachox: doing well ; thanks :) [22:35] almost 8 weeks old [22:36] jd- (~jds@76.177.195.56) joined ##slackware. [22:36] :) [22:36] re. ok so i put a slax cd in, tried the printer, no luck, no luck either for the wireless stick [22:37] slax is NOT slackware [22:37] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:37] rworkman: getting any sleep yet? [22:37] Not enough :D [22:37] heh [22:38] Sleep is what now? Never heard of such a thing, I don't think. [22:38] I think benj was around 8mos before we got to sleep all night [22:38] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:38] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] does slackware have HPLIP? [22:38] yes [22:38] indeed it does [22:39] hplip-3.10.2-i486-2 [22:39] on stock 13.1 [22:40] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [22:40] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:40] Yandertal_away (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [22:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:40] Yandertal_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [22:40] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:41] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-238.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:41] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:42] alisonken1home: no matter what i do, i always get the error unable to open device '/etc/udev/rules.d/01-palm.rules' when running udevinfo /etc/udev/rules.d/01-palm.rules [22:42] and i followed that website exactly as it says (even though it was written a long time ago) [22:43] interesting - it sounds like it's trying to open the rule file as a device rather than execute the rule file to create the device node [22:43] I absolutely LOVE writing new xorg.conf files. [22:43] what command did you use to run the test? [22:43] jkwood: why would yo udo that? [22:43] hba (~hba@189.130.57.203) joined ##slackware. [22:43] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [22:43] because of non-standard layouts? [22:44] udevtest /etc/udev/rules.d/01-palm.rules [22:44] alisonken1home: maybe, I guess. [22:44] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.152.15) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:45] rworkman: with no xorg.conf file, when i have hdmi external monitor connected both my laptop and the external use 1024x768 because that's the only common mode [22:45] KaMii: no, my password is pretty cryptic :P [22:45] KaMii: you don't pass the rule file to udevtest - you pass the match line info [22:45] alisonken1home: good point [22:45] rworkman: Intel 845G for my main display with a Chips F65550 lcd in the front of my server. This is an "old" logging recorder, but I'm turning it into a multimedia machine. [22:46] his example was the dsp chip, so he passes (udevtest /class/sound/dsp" to test teh rule [22:46] I suspect you guys are going to like xorg-1.8.x with its xorg.conf.d/ directory that you can drop stubs in [22:46] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:46] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] I'm just fond of the fact that even when I freeze the X server and the keyboard, I can ssh in and continue to get work done (suck it, Windows!) [22:47] raela: odd [22:47] er. [22:47] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:47] rworkman: odd [22:47] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] SigmaVirus24 (WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [22:47] unable to open device 'BUS==usb, [22:47] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:48] you run udevtest as root [22:48] rworkman: that explains the /etc/x11/xorg.conf.d/ directory on openSUSE 11.3.. its running Xorg 1.8.0 [22:48] yes i am in root alisonken1home [22:48] and yes... I love it [22:48] rworkman: made mapping my mouse a helluva lot easier [22:48] oh, wait no i wasnt [22:49] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.152.15) joined ##slackware. [22:49] same error alisonken1home [22:49] udev hates me, its official [22:50] Dominian: I bet. I have xorg-1.8.x stuff on connie :) [22:50] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-22-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:50] when your palm is plugged in, what does dmesg show? make your udev rule match the /sys device path setup [22:50] rworkman: its very nice [22:50] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-188.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] jkwood: what programs are you going to use? [22:50] hows it going lads [22:51] usb 3-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1 [22:51] heya phrag [22:51] 3am data center failover... i'm sleepy =P [22:51] hows it going MLanden ? =) [22:51] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:51] goin' good thanks phrag thanks [22:51] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:51] ola phrag [22:51] KaMii: ok - see what udevinfo -a -p /sys/class/usb/ttyUSB1 shows (make sure you use the correct path to that device) [22:51] MLanden: Right now, XBMC is looking pretty nice. I've got the remote control app on my phone, and it worked better than I expected (this thing has a built-in speaker in the front panel, I just didn't expect it'd actually work!) [22:52] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) joined ##slackware. [22:52] or usbinfo [22:52] rworkman: hiya =) [22:52] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:52] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:52] no valid sysfs device found [22:53] jkwood: cool....i've heard great things with it...;) [22:54] KaMii: what's your udev rule? [22:54] It'll run Transmission to acquire new stuff (tv shows, yada yada) as well. Other than that... I had plans, but I don't remember them all. [22:55] alisonken1home: i believe its /sys/class/usb_device/usbdev3.1 [22:55] and my rule is [22:55] BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB[13579]", SYMLINK+="pilot" [22:55] jkwood: what the top rez of that chip lcd monitor? [22:55] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:56] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) joined ##slackware. [22:56] oh, i was gonna mention -- i needed to blacklist viafb on my machine on a stock 13.1 in order to boot up [22:56] replace "USB[13579]*" with "USB*" [22:56] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-188.dial.telus.net) left ##slackware. [22:56] since it has to match the rest of the info [22:56] and is that the exact string returned for "product" ? [22:57] yes [22:57] also, replace SYSFS{product} with ATTRS{product} [22:57] no [22:58] still doesnt work [22:59] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:59] MLanden: I have no idea. I haven't been able to properly probe it. [22:59] cant i just make a very broad udev rule that says all usb is ok for my user [22:59] skycrash (sky@187.112.202.35) left ##slackware. [23:00] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:00] SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", GROUP="users", MODE="0664" [23:00] I wouldn't do it, but you can :) [23:00] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) joined ##slackware. [23:00] does anyone know if the virgin mobile usb pre-paid internet stick will work under linux? [23:00] endtell: what hardware is it? [23:00] not sure, im trying to find out [23:00] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:01] why would you not do that rworkman ? [23:01] security risk [23:01] from online? [23:01] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-24.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:01] im the only one who has a user account on that computer, and the only one to use it, what kind of security risk? [23:01] Well, I don't like using sledgehammers. Using big hammers like that to *hide* permissions issues is the wrong approach, even if it's harmless (as it would likely be in your case) [23:02] It's a matter of principle for me - I won't say that it's a risk. [23:02] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [23:02] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:02] ya, i do understand that logic rworkman , but this is just making me so mad at this point im wiling to use an atomic weapon to open a hole [23:03] jkwood: Is it a serial touchscreen lcd? IIRC,C&T did have some lcd monitors with that feature? [23:03] KaMii: do what works for you then :) [23:03] KaMii: That's probably why there are so many security holes out there in the first place. Ppl like shortcuts and deal with consequences later [23:03] When you're angry, that's the WORST time to use nuclear weapons, or write letters to your congressman. [23:03] well, just as a test, let me even see if your sledgehammer works [23:04] MLanden: No, I think it's a proper lcd video screen, no different than the one in my laptop. It actually does a full display at some resolution. [23:05] hrm... well something else is the problem, that did not work rworkman [23:05] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:05] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:05] jkwood: ok [23:05] What Palm are you trying to sync? I had T3 syncing working until it effectively died [23:05] i thought it had to be a udev issue, because it syncs when logged in as root [23:05] T3slider: its a palm centro [23:05] Palm OS 5? [23:05] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [23:05] otherwise known as $300 brick [23:06] umm, ya i think so [23:06] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [23:06] I think the problem was the udev rule had the permissions as root:uucp when I tried it and I did not want to add my user to the uucp group [23:06] it syncs just fine when im in root, but no user can access it..... so i thought it was a udev issue, but rworkman's sledgehammer failed to poke a hole [23:07] I can try and dig up the line I used for udev but it'll take a bit [23:07] arcaos (~arcaos@host-12-205-154.linksat.net.ar) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:07] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:08] ive been trying for a year, a few more days wont bother me T3slider [23:08] BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB[13579]", SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660", OPTIONS+="last_rule" [23:08] ^^ That's it [23:08] im still not convinced my udev rules are even being used at all [23:09] I just modified it to use plugdev instead of uucp...the last_rule part is necessary or it will ignore it and go to uucp anyway [23:09] if you know the /sys path to the device, then udevadm test /class/.... will show you what files it runs as well as the info it finds on it [23:09] T3slider: my user is already in uucp group though [23:09] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [23:09] and that failed [23:09] Ew [23:09] :P [23:09] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:10] like i said i have been trying to test everything to see what is going on [23:10] nothing works [23:10] Well what are the perms on /dev/ttyUSB0/1? [23:11] user:user [23:11] i went on a chown rampage a weekago [23:11] that didnt work either [23:12] Is /dev/pilot or whatever it is supposed to be getting created (and what is it linking to)? [23:12] well i will tell you this, my slackintosh box is so secure nothing but root can touch usb apparently [23:12] And I assume you mean users and not user [23:12] i have no idea anymore to tell you the truth [23:13] ls -l /dev/pilot [23:13] yes users [23:13] i dont have that directory [23:13] i think i did at one point [23:13] The SYMLINK+'"pilot" should be creating it [23:13] If it's not then there's something wrong with your udev rule [23:13] i dont know, i cant remember i have done soo much [23:14] BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB[13579]", SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660", OPTIONS+="last_rule" [23:14] i wouldnt be surprised, udev + KaMii = everything fails [23:14] Throw that into your rules file and restart your PC/udev [23:14] you dont have to restart udev when you add a new rule [23:14] Well it's been a while so I have no idea. lol [23:17] rc.udev reload [23:17] turn off/on the device [23:20] ok, udev is not working for me, and im mad at this... where is the ultimate unsecure hack workaround to bypass udev totally, i dont care anymore about security on my usb port [23:21] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:22] mknod [23:26] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:26] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:29] If ttyUSB0 and/or ttyUSB1 is being created properly then you can always chown for a temporary check to make sure it can work as a regular user... [23:29] And create the pilot link yourself [23:29] i tried that [23:29] didnt work [23:29] Then it probably isn't udev that's failing you [23:29] then what is it> [23:29] Note that I think only odd-numbered ttyUSB numbers work [23:29] if its not udev, what else sits in the way? [23:29] ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1 might both be created but only 1/3/5/etc. will work [23:30] ya, i know, and it goes to ttyUSB1 [23:30] Then chown root:users /dev/ttyUSB1 [23:30] cd /dev; ln -s ttyUSB1 pilot [23:30] ls -l /dev/ttyUSB1 and see if it's a link [23:32] hba (~hba@189.130.57.203) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:32] what happened, now there is no /dev/ttyUSB anything [23:32] there went my drive [23:32] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:32] endtell (~xk8birn@pool-108-0-86-49.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: JAVA BET HUNT [23:33] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2010-07-29 05:30 /dev/ttyUSB1 -> tts/USB1 [23:33] now its back to root root [23:34] because it gets created everytime i hit hotsync then it disappears when hotsync is done [23:34] Ah I see [23:34] What is your current udev rule? [23:35] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-185-178.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Take care,folks!! [23:35] the sledgehammer rworkman gave me [23:35] SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", GROUP="users", MODE="0664" [23:37] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: sleepz, it getz some! [23:37] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [23:40] I don't have syncing software (or anything to sync anymore) but I just tested with my T3 and my line still works with 13.0 (don't have 13.1 to test though) [23:40] Assigned ttyUSB1 to plugdev and created the pilot link [23:40] im not on 13.1 either [23:40] But I see what you mean about the device nodes being created only when you hit the hotsync button so you will need a good udev rule [23:41] ya well udev ignores all rules i give it anyway [23:41] BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB[13579]", SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660", OPTIONS+="last_rule" [23:41] That last_rule is important... [23:42] There's another rule that loads later that overrides whatever you use so if you don't have that last_rule part your udev rule will not be effective [23:42] is there any software to fix the format of email files that should be in mbox format? [23:42] your rule also doesnt work [23:43] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [23:43] What are the perms on /dev/ttyUSB1 when you hotsync? [23:43] root root [23:43] sorry root plugdev [23:43] Then you're definitely doing something wrong...I can't really be more helpful than that but it worked in 12.2 and that line is working now for me on a virgin 13.0 [23:43] Oh root plugdev [23:44] THen add your user to the plugdev group if it's not already [23:44] and anything else that isn't working is no longer a udev problem but a configuration problem in your syncing software [23:45] chance22 (chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [23:45] you know it's late when your cron jobs kick in [23:45] 4:40? lol [23:46] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:46] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:47] yeh =P [23:48] why wont it add me to plugdev? [23:48] did you relog? [23:48] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [23:48] and what is 'it' ? [23:48] gpasswd -a user plugdev [23:48] phrag: obviously you have the wrong attitude for this .. ;-) "Cron .. it's the way to just tell the time." :) [23:48] Then log out and back in [23:48] oh.. duh i need to login and out [23:49] BP{k}: haha, it usually means time to go to bed... in this case, i only got up 3 hours ago =P [23:49] So now it means...time to party? [23:49] T3slider: time to mainline the caffeine ;) [23:49] phrag: why the fsck do you get up in the middle of the night? [23:50] BP{k}: data center migration [23:50] we're moving from Frankfurt to London [23:50] phrag: ah teh suck [23:51] oooh, just seen wikileaks latest doc releases... *large* [23:51] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:51] well im in the group but your rule still failed [23:51] bet the us will be *pissed* at that [23:51] something is not right [23:51] KaMii: did you relog after adding yourself to plugdev? [23:51] yes [23:51] but it works in root, it hotsyncs in root, so i know it works [23:51] What is the output of `id`? [23:51] perhaps dev permissions [23:52] And the output of `ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*` and `ls -l /dev/pilot` when hotsyncing? [23:52] BP{k}: wth you doing up!? [23:52] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2010-07-29 05:47 /dev/pilot -> ttyUSB1 [23:53] crw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 188, 1 2010-07-29 05:47 /dev/ttyUSB1 [23:53] gid=100(users) groups=83(plugdev),100(users) [23:54] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:54] If you're in the plugdev group and ttyUSB1 has plugdev permissions for rw then it looks like udev is doing its job... [23:54] hehe, i should re-schedule my cron jobs 'cause they interfere with my own schedule :P [23:54] so what is blocking me then, if its not udev [23:54] I don't remember what else was involved in syncing but kpilot (?) worked well using /dev/pilot as the location [23:54] im using jpilot [23:54] no kde allowed on that computer [23:55] BP{k}: i was banned from playing Starcraft at *home* until we've failed over.. by my boss =P [23:55] phrag: hahaha. [23:55] What do you have in the "Serial Port" box in j-pilot prefs? [23:55] phrag: play defcon instead [23:55] phrag: as for me .. rather fscked up sleeping patterns/insomnia [23:55] as if the gf wasnt bad enough =P [23:55] BP{k}: i miss that =P [23:55] poor BP{k} [23:56] although prob broke myself for few days [23:56] BP{k}: how is kethry? [23:56] T3slider: usb: same setup as in root [23:57] i figure if it works in root, i will keep jpilot configured the same [23:57] phrag: fine, asleep at the moment :) quite happy to see the back of her old PIII and having a newer computer (which goes for me as well) [23:57] Set it to /dev/pilot [23:57] oh yeh, you guys recently upgraded.. still basking in all it's glory? [23:57] there is no /dev/pilot [23:57] /dev/pilot is created when you hotsync [23:57] no option is available in the dropdown menu [23:58] i still feel like my box is bran dnew, even though it's a year old now [23:58] Oh [23:58] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:58] Well I haven't used j-pilot I was going off of a screenshot (which I guess is old?) [23:58] phrag: hell yeah :) I got a phenom II X4 at the moment, and keth is happy .. the PIII started to struggle but it'll make a nice firewall or somesuch. [23:58] or its new [23:58] im on 12.1 [23:59] oh aye, slack will love that box =) [23:59] BP{k}: i had similar upgrade, from a P4... you never know what your missing until you have it =) [23:59] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Thu Jul 29 2010