[00:00] Urchlay, what's worse, it was put into CPAN. [00:00] can't be worse than DateTime::Format::Baby [00:02] wonder if there's a pig-latin module that ties to a filehandle [00:02] would that be Pig::Latin or Igpay::Atinlay? [00:02] Ohway earday... [00:04] astalavista ppl [00:05] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:05] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb [00:05] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-17.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:05] thats a bad error isnt it :| [00:05] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "see you" [00:05] are you sure that /dev/hdb is your cd? [00:06] KillerV (i=1000@189037003055.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:06] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-06-27 23:05 /dev/cdrom -> hdb [00:07] i am working from tty so googling is not that easy lol [00:08] $ grep -i 'cd.*rom' /var/log/dmesg [00:08] hdd: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-H552B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [00:09] you should get output similar to that (might have the correct brand name or not) [00:09] hdb: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [00:09] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:09] OK, and /dev/cdrom correctly points to hdb? [00:09] yes [00:10] and the disc you are trying to mount is a data disc, not a blank, and not an audio CD? [00:10] mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only [00:10] yes, its slackware cd [00:10] that's a good sign [00:10] it means it mounted (read-only is fine, you can add the "ro" option to /etc/fstab to get rid of that warning) [00:11] but its already there [00:12] unless i need one for /dev/hdb which is not in fstab at all [00:16] mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only <-- that normaly follows a successful mount... [00:17] as it said it was mounting it in read-only state [00:17] bah, I was about to point that out :) [00:17] :P [00:18] but the dir is still empty [00:18] what is the command used to mount it? [00:18] the mount /media/cdrom ? [00:19] getting no such file or directory [00:19] when trying to mount [00:19] KillerV (i=1000@189037003055.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [00:20] .... [00:20] ..... [00:20] " [00:20] :| [00:20] 1) cat /etc/fstab | cdrom [00:20] lw0x15: andarius asked you what command you gave earlier that lead to "mount; block device is /dev/hdb .. " [00:20] i used mount /mnt/cdrom [00:21] andarius: I think you want a grep in there somewhere [00:21] but i fixed that so it doesnt give it to me anymore [00:21] it gives me no such file or directory now [00:21] XGizzmo: true [00:21] i give, i am out :P [00:21] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-142-171.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [00:21] mount /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom [00:22] juice (i=1000@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] same errors [00:23] gremlins ate it... [00:24] fati (n=brian@c-71-238-167-164.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] joannis (n=joannis@adsl-dyn186.91-127-84.t-com.sk) left irc: "leaving" [00:26] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:26] hmm [00:26] so what should I do with a hacked box that keep trying to ssh to me [00:27] sledge hammer [00:27] unplug it? [00:27] purify it with fire! [00:27] mothaF**kA [00:27] i was thinking a remote shutdown would be nice [00:27] :) [00:27] is it your box? [00:28] if not, block it with iptables and move on [00:28] juice: 31c0b002cd80 ? [00:28] andarius: thanks anyway ill just d/l slackware .iso and get what i need from there [00:29] I thought this was a slackware iso? [00:29] yeah i tried to mount slackware cd [00:29] ipt ipt ipt [00:30] mount -o loop [00:31] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:31] you know, was it ever asked what the host distro was in this case ? [00:32] slackware [00:34] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [00:34] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-197-72.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] watch HAL and udev have parked the /dev somewhere odd and mounted it under some other name already... [00:39] where does lynx put downloaded files ? [00:40] usually in pwd I believe [00:43] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Here I go"). [00:43] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.30.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:46] lets hope i am torrenting the right CD lol [00:47] pikudoz (n=casosac@201.240.242.124) joined ##slackware. [00:47] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-4-131.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] is there another cli browser apart from lynx [00:51] silver|gold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:52] links [00:52] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:53] Nick change: silver|gold -> silvergold [00:53] w3m [00:54] telnet www.google.com 80 :) [00:54] nice links is way better than lynx [00:54] links IIRC even has some javascript support [00:54] (or is that called "elinks"?) [00:55] Urchlay: that's elinks [00:56] nix_chix (n=misspwn@infectious.cc) joined ##slackware. [00:56] silver|gold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Ignacio_ (n=Ignacio@190.51.39.138) left irc: "Leaving" [00:57] if i had skype cli i dont think i'd need X at all now lol [00:57] it's pretty much impossible to unlock a 2000 pontiac grand am trunk with out damanging the lock i bet [00:57] lw0x15: you are aware that you can download the individual files that are on the CD, no need to wait for the entire iso to download if all you need are a couple of packages or whatever [00:57] i locked my keys in the trunk [00:57] Urchlay: i need to re-install whole X [00:57] the doors locked too? [00:58] doors are unlocked but i dont have a relase for the trunk that works, you have to use the key. and the seats fold down but in order to do that you have to get into the trunk and realease the straps from what i know [00:58] i was grabbing my computer shit out of the trunk and i am fairly sure i droped my keys in there [00:58] lw0x15: wget -r http:///slackware-12.2/slackware/x <-- that ought to do it (might want various -np, -nh, -nD options too) [00:59] nix_chix: ouch [00:59] nix_chix = the same person as missyjane? (in other words you're not nix_chix0r?) [00:59] silver|g1ld (n=silvergo@173-18-61-18.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:59] Urchlay: i am just finishing d/ling one of the CD .isos that has it [00:59] oh, wait, you *are* nix_chix0r [00:59] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [00:59] AAA will send some one out to do it tomorrow at a cheaper rate [01:00] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:00] and reinburse us 100bucks but i dont have like free flow cash [01:00] Nick change: silver|g1ld -> silvergold [01:00] ejal (n=ejal@89-138-247-205.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:00] ejal_ (n=ejal@DSL217-132-44-168.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [01:00] no spare key I take it [01:00] my spare key is at home and i'm 3.5hrs south heh [01:00] eh, and the trunk release is broken/nonexistent? [01:00] i literally droped the whole key ring in there i'm sure [01:01] theres a trunk release on the side door and it's electronic but never worked [01:01] my car, the trunk release only works if the key's in the ignition :( [01:01] the guys are outsid hammering like monkeys at the momment trying to take the back seat out some how=\ [01:01] good luck to 'em [01:02] silver|g1ld (n=silvergo@173-18-61-18.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:02] fati (n=brian@c-71-238-167-164.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:02] heh yeah. what pisses me off is i dont even remember putting them in the trunk . like who does that? [01:02] well I'll be a monkeys uncle! [01:02] am about half tempted to have another key made for my car and just leeave it in the ignition 24/7 [01:02] fairly sure they went in my purse or hanging on the door outside and some one ganked them [01:02] (locked in there, use the key on my keychain to unlock) [01:02] why would someone rogue your keys? planning to come back for the car later? (like you won't be expecting them?) [01:03] well, i had some stuff in my trunk i rather not discuss [01:03] lns40: *poof*, you are now a monkey's uncle :) [01:03] just glad they didnt get the 10mm shells [01:03] if that is the case [01:03] stuff that goes bang? [01:03] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "I have something to go do, and it involves reality" [01:03] Urchlay: hehe [01:04] well the gun is the least of my worries [01:04] 10mm colt gold cup [01:04] with the gun locked in the trunk, you can't shoot the guy when he comes back to steal the car... [01:04] 10mm = 1 louder than 9mm? :P [01:04] it's a fancy gun basically [01:05] the shells are like a buck fifty a piece [01:05] desert-eagle-ish, is what I imagine [01:05] "I'd shoot you but you're not worth $1.50", then you stab him in the neck [01:05] Urchlay, it's the other stuff i am more concerned bout [01:05] =) [01:06] left my bass, amp, and ginormous speaker cabinet in the car for an hour today in a parking lot, I get nervous when I have to do that [01:06] green and sticky [01:06] hohoho [01:06] oh nice the car alarm is going off [01:06] haha [01:06] what a bunch of noobs [01:07] lemme guess, only way to turn it off is with the missing remote? [01:07] haha yup [01:07] somehow it's off [01:07] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [01:07] brb im gona go upstairs [01:07] nix_chix (n=misspwn@infectious.cc) left irc: "Leaving" [01:07] I guess it's not too likely anyone will steal a 4' tall 80+lb bass cabinet... [01:08] (most thieves would be lazy, or else they'd have a real job?) [01:08] hahaha [01:08] she better come back...i need to make fun of her [01:08] heh [01:08] guy-x (n=guy-x@189.23.192.4) joined ##slackware. [01:08] anTraxc (n=gts@189-015-243-145.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) got netsplit. [01:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) got netsplit. [01:08] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) got netsplit. [01:08] mgs`` (n=mgs@testa.saura.us) got netsplit. [01:08] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) got netsplit. [01:08] wng- (n=jackson@unaffiliated/wng/x-836585) got netsplit. [01:08] Beta2K (n=beta@d24-36-78-223.home1.cgocable.net) got netsplit. [01:08] Blikjeha1 (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) got netsplit. [01:08] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) got netsplit. [01:08] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust404.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) got netsplit. [01:08] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) got netsplit. [01:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-4-131.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:09] so, we did a decent show [01:09] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-108.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] 40 minute set, kinda short, but the crowd was digging it (at least some of 'em) [01:09] when are you guys going to release slackware 13 ? i don't have a fast connection maybe i can waint some more to download the new version [01:10] when it is ready. [01:10] guy-x: "you guys" aren't here right now anyway [01:10] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust404.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) returned to ##slackware. [01:10] yeah isnt slack the distro that doesnt have a release schedual? [01:10] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [01:10] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) returned to ##slackware. [01:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [01:10] Beta2K (n=beta@d24-36-78-223.home1.cgocable.net) returned to ##slackware. [01:10] silver|gold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:10] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) returned to ##slackware. [01:10] (the person who actually makes that decision isn't on IRC right now, I mean) [01:11] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [01:11] silver|g1ld (n=silvergo@173-18-61-18.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:11] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) returned to ##slackware. [01:11] asking us is like asking yourself :) [01:11] ok... ;) [01:11] wng- (n=jackson@216.211.244.212) joined ##slackware. [01:11] if we knew, you'd probably already know too [01:12] it's been six months since the last release so i think slack 13 is coming soon... [01:12] when i try to "mount -o loop" i get [01:12] Cannot create link /etc/mtab~ [01:12] Perhaps there is a stale lock file? [01:12] guy-x, nope, it will be released the moment its ready [01:12] not before, not after [01:12] lw0x15: eh, is your root fs mounted read-only maybe? [01:13] i agree [01:13] yah, we all think it's going to be released Real Soon Now, but we don't actually *know* [01:13] edman007 ;) i couldn't agree more, but i thought slackware has a "six month release" [01:13] naw [01:13] anyway, thanks [01:14] Blikjeha1 (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) got lost in the net-split. [01:14] mgs`` (n=mgs@testa.saura.us) got lost in the net-split. [01:14] anTraxc (n=gts@189-015-243-145.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) got lost in the net-split. [01:15] 12.1 was 20080502, 12.2 was 20081210, that's over 7 months... [01:16] hm, does slackware not have a command to convert year/month/date into julian days? [01:16] Urchlay: yes. [01:16] Urchlay: jdate [01:17] -bash: jdate: command not found [01:17] SBo package or something? [01:17] $ man -k julian [01:17] julian: nothing appropriate [01:17] Urchlay: no, my bad. something I stuck in my bashrc [01:17] date +%j [01:17] hmm, give 179 [01:18] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.11.243) joined ##slackware. [01:18] I thought julian days counted from day one sometime before 1AD? [01:18] (in which case the number would be a lot higher than 179 by now...) [01:18] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.139.197) joined ##slackware. [01:18] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "Reconnecting" [01:18] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [01:18] %j day of year (001..366) [01:19] OK, 7.4 months between 12.1 and 12.2 release dates, assuming 30 day months [01:20] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:20] Half of those months are statistically going to be 31 days. [01:20] well sure [01:21] so 222 days [01:21] it's been 200 days since 12.2 released [01:21] so even if he waits 3 weeks, Pat isn't "late" :) [01:22] ccfreak2k: so when you say "6 months from now", you mean a precise date, or do you use it as an approximation like I do? [01:22] If I were to say it now, I would mean "sometime in December". [01:23] Possibly even early January. [01:23] mgs` (n=mgs@unaffiliated/mgs/x-0000001) joined ##slackware. [01:23] yah. An approximation [01:23] anTraxc (n=gts@189-015-243-145.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [01:23] I expect slackware 13 will be release approximately 3 weeks from now... [01:24] Urchlay: when i try to remount my filesystem to read/write i get the same error [01:24] should we start a betting pool or something? [01:24] lw0x15: ehm, WTF happened to hose your system, then? [01:24] Urchlay: see a.o.l.s [01:24] Alan Hicks runs the "Slackware Release Fun and Games" [01:24] Urchlay: no idea :() [01:24] "mount -o remount,rw /" should remount read/write with no problems [01:24] guy-x (n=guy-x@189.23.192.4) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:25] Urchlay, pools on when it'll be released or if there will even be a 13? :) [01:25] by 13 I mean "the next release", even if it somehow gets called 12.3 or 14.0 or whatever [01:25] I still think "Slackware XIII" would look classy, on the DVD cover [01:25] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.139.197) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:26] Urchlay: tried that command you showed, same error [01:26] bizarre [01:27] considering your /etc/rc.d scripts do exactly that, when you boot [01:27] exact command from rc.S is: /sbin/mount -w -v -n -o remount / [01:28] -n Mount without writing in /etc/mtab. This is necessary for exam- [01:28] ple when /etc is on a read-only file system. [01:28] try that then [01:28] that worked [01:29] (a better question: why and how is your root filesystem being mounted read-only?) [01:31] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:40] what do you mean by normally [01:41] ie not booted through the install cd or anything, just normal harddisk/through lilo [01:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:41] yeah [01:41] normal boot [01:41] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [01:43] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [01:49] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [01:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-5-214.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-249.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.0.25) joined ##slackware. [01:56] Nick change: _alisonken1churc -> alisonken1church [01:59] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:00] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [02:03] chi (n=chi@unaffiliated/chi) joined ##slackware. [02:04] Nick change: chi -> nix_chix [02:04] Urchlay, it's open [02:04] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:04] Hey nix_chix [02:05] hi [02:05] nix_chix, damn you [02:05] they took the backseat apart [02:05] seats out of it [02:05] and no keys right? [02:05] got the keys though [02:05] :( [02:05] did they find a pony? [02:05] apparently i set the keys on the edge of the trunk and clsed the door [02:05] so they were kinda half inside on the left [02:06] and the pony? [02:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:06] edman007: the pony got away, sorry. :P [02:07] Action: edman007 slaps silvergold [02:07] thats not true! [02:07] Action: silvergold kicks edman007 [02:07] pikudoz (n=casosac@201.240.242.124) left irc: Connection timed out [02:07] edman007: check youtube, the video of the getaway is on there. [02:07] its probably chopped up in tiny pieces in nix_chix's trunk [02:07] silvergold, ? [02:07] where, i need links [02:08] You can't haz links, you must search for yourself. :) [02:08] silvergold, all i got is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UDoIBgiUAQ the director of dogma explaining how he protested dogma [02:10] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:11] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:12] slacknode (n=slacknod@32.148.18.85) joined ##slackware. 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[02:42] init[1] (n=althaf@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Client Quit [02:45] anyone know of a utility that searches mass ammounts of files for specific lines and replaces them with other lines? [02:45] I was gonna code this myself, but I'm trying to get this project done. [02:45] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:46] sed? :P [02:46] sed would probably be useful for that [02:46] thanks [02:46] stealth-: good luck with your project. :) [02:46] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [02:47] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [02:47] any good way to get my eyetoy cam working? [02:47] silvergold: thanks :) [02:58] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. 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[03:47] acidchild (n=acid@spy.int.sevenl.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:48] yo channel [03:48] y0 Camarade_Tux [03:49] Nick change: Guest15068 -> init[1] [03:49] y0 silvergold [03:50] Camarade_Tux: :) [03:50] yoyo silvergold, init[1] :) [03:50] AH, init[1] [03:50] Action: silvergold runs [03:50] Action: init[1] run behind silvergold :) [03:50] :P, how's it going init[1] [03:51] AHHHH, he's chasing me, Camarade_Tux STOP HIM. :) [03:51] silvergold: shifted to awesome [03:51] orly? [03:51] like? dislike? [03:51] not yet ! playing with configs [03:51] seems good - [03:51] silvergold, hmm, too early in the morning, not gonna move :D [03:52] haha [03:52] I'll soon be going to bed. It's 02:50 [03:52] silvergold: here its 1:30pm [03:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-79-135.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:52] lol, i was wonders what silvergold was doing while i was asleep [03:53] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-5-163.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] s/wonders/wondering/ [03:54] init[1] (n=althaf@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "Power Failure -brb" [03:54] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Camarade_Tux, y0 [03:55] Camarade_Tux, give me beer [03:55] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:55] yoyo edman007 [03:55] edman007: can't you ask nicely? :P [03:55] edman007, it's being shipped right now, but since shipping rates where too expensive, I send it on a donkey -_- [03:56] silvergold, I owe him $500 worth of beer :D [03:56] s/beer/alcohol/ [03:56] I don't know why, but I do >< [03:56] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:56] what type of beer would you like? all I have is Bud Light or Sweet Water IPA [03:56] i send fed-ex so it gets there faster than donkey =P [03:57] DeiBellum, he, don't criticize my donkey ! [03:57] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if the donkey managed to cross the atlantic ocean... [03:57] Camarade_Tux, your donkey is slow sir [03:57] Camarade_Tux: I seen on the news, the donkey didn't make it. :( [03:57] :( [03:57] ='( [03:58] he was such a friend, we live wonderful moments together ='( [03:58] ... [03:58] he was a beer carrier [03:58] a fine but slow and non inflatable one at that. [03:58] or maybe he drank everything and couldn't swim [03:59] haha [03:59] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [03:59] couldn't he drink enough of it so that the carbonation would have helped the buoyancy? [04:00] well, maybe but maybe he walked in rounds and couldn't find his route because of the alcohol [04:01] Action: DeiBellum gives Camarade_Tux a new donkey with water wings. [04:03] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:05] Well, time to get going. Have a good (morning|afternoon|evening) everyone. Take care. [04:06] night silvergold [04:07] night chopp. take care. [04:07] see ya Camarade_Tux [04:07] good night silvergold [04:07] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Here I go"). [04:08] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [04:15] haha, look in #linux [04:15] whole bunch of k-lined [04:15] "You've reached this channel because the channel you tried to enter has been configured with join throttling (+J). There may be a clonebot attack in progress there, or simply unusually heavy interest." ;p [04:16] aww [04:16] well it is a clonebot attack... [04:16] :( [04:16] linux is replicating [04:16] lol [04:17] anyways, they got the channel muted, so i can't talk about the great pwnage going on in there :( [04:18] ='( [04:20] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:23] sh0ne (n=Unknown@79.101.244.221) joined ##slackware. [04:28] toytoy (n=dindin@112.202.123.44) joined ##slackware. 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[06:10] v4nelle (n=van@adsl12-214.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:11] quakelive: google mate... see some reviews, install them both..try them...only you can say which one you like best [06:11] its like a woman, different tastes ;) [06:12] lw0x15: see the changes and hints file looks like some x stuff have been removed, ;) check xorg.conf...etc..etc.. ;) [06:13] In which ways is slackware better than arch? [06:15] quakelive: told you already what to do :P [06:15] sorry [06:15] lagged [06:16] The-Croupier, distributions are like women ? so we enjoy women who don't cook for us, don't do much for us but don't talk too much and aren't annoying ? :D [06:22] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-182-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:03] ok i'm having issues with a direct firewire connection between my two linux computers [07:03] it's as if it worked in the past, but now it don't [07:04] the module is loaded, the interfaces are up and configured, the routes are added, etc, but no go [07:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:07] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:08] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:11] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:13] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [07:13] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:14] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. 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[07:32] alright, just got back from island/camping [07:33] The-Croupier, holidays, right ? [07:33] (I mean, you have two months of holidays now, right ?) [07:33] Camarade_Tux: ok thanks cause I didnnot know what was the name for it :P, Is there universal equalizer for KDE env ? for all programs I mean [07:33] Camarade_Tux: nahh i just get 16days [07:34] ;) its alright though, i dont mind [07:34] paul424, dunno, it's been a long time I've used kde, you might try kmix though (it can do volumes but I don't know if it can do equalizer) [07:34] alsamixer style? [07:35] alsamixer only does volume afaik [07:35] paul424: check on google sound mixer linux [07:35] The-Croupier, you're a teacher, right ? [07:35] you might get something useful [07:35] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.87.62) left ##slackware. [07:35] Camarade_Tux: i try [07:35] hi [07:35] is there something like winamp's media library where i can select online radios from the list, groupped by categories but under linux ? 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[08:35] v4nelle: you need Slackware-current to install .txz packages [08:36] v4nelle: if your running anything but -(current|current) you have no need for .txz [08:36] i have slack 12.2 [08:36] i wonna install xfce 4.6 [08:37] You will have to compile it yourself [08:37] v4nelle: you should not install -current packages in your 12.2 system, unless you are upgrading to -current [08:38] and xfce4.6 is likely to have other deps [08:38] i look at xfce slackbuild and i see tha use .txz files.... xfce4-dev-tools-$XDT_VERS.tar.$COMPRESSION [08:39] ok guys [08:39] thx [08:40] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:41] v4nelle: anyway, slack 13 is _probably_ around the corner :P [08:42] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] adeodatus (n=rp@92.85.214.109) joined ##slackware. [08:43] v4nelle (n=van@adsl12-214.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:44] any idea why the usbboot.img doesnt work? [08:44] i get boot failed iirc [08:45] i tried copying the image twice. same error [08:45] sahko, works perfectly here, you used dd, right ? [08:45] thats the usbboot.img from slackware64-current [08:46] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [08:46] What is the default tool in slackware for intrusion detection, sniffer? [08:46] Camarade_Tux: yeah, and i've done it like 100 times with other img's [08:46] and followed the instructions in the README_USB.TXT file [08:46] I mean for network. [08:46] yeah, although i already knew how to do it [08:46] sahko, tried slackware32's ? and does it give any message ? [08:46] dd if=usbboot.img of=/dev/sdb bs=512 [08:47] i havent tried. cause the x86_64 tree is already rsynced [08:47] but i might if this keep not to work. [08:49] What is the default tool in slackware for network intrusion detection, sniffer? [08:49] nmap [08:49] ? [08:49] sahko: Thank you! [08:50] its not really a sniffer [08:50] but anyway try it [08:53] actually, with nmap you cannot detect intrusions or sniff the network =) [08:54] pri4pus: i suppose the right answer is that there's no default tool, but you can compile wireshark and snort right away, afaik [08:54] rg3: So then slackware has no sniffer...! [08:54] rg3: OK. What about kismet? [08:54] it compiles fine too [08:54] i have not compiled snort, but i have wireshark and kismet installed [08:55] maybe sbo has some sort of sniffer [08:55] yeah wireshark is the most popular choice [08:55] Nice. Thank you! [08:55] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/wireshark/ <-- there's a slackbuild at slackbuilds.org [08:56] and for kismet too: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/kismet/ [08:56] lets see if the usbboot from slackware-current works [08:56] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-131-50.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [08:56] rg3: Which one is better? [08:57] pri4pus: they serve a different purpose [08:57] rg3: OK. Thank you! :-) [08:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:59] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-131-50.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:00] rg3: eWEEK Labs named Wireshark one of "The Most Important Open-Source Apps of All Time" as of May 2, 2007 [09:00] doesnt work. the msg is "Boot error" [09:00] sahko: have you tried a different usb stick? just in case that one is damaged or something [09:00] sahko: What are you trying to do? [09:01] rg3: hmm. it worked (booted)this morning fine. then i dd'ed the usbboot.img [09:02] pri4pus: boot the usbboot.img [09:02] sbo says wireshark is similar to tcpdump, slackware already has tcpdump [09:02] sahko: just brainstorming :) [09:02] RipVanWinkle: tcpdump is a command line app, while wireshark has a nice gui to filter capture results and split them apart easily [09:03] rg3: Wireshark is very similar to tcpdump, but it has a graphical front-end, and many more information sorting and filtering options. [09:03] Ups, RipVanWinkle: Wireshark is very similar to tcpdump, but it has a graphical front-end, and many more information sorting and filtering options. [09:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-21-4.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:09] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-131-50.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [09:13] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-131-50.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:14] rg3: slackware have a sniffer... its tcpdump... if you want a gui for it, use wireshark :) [09:15] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Client Quit [09:15] anything i do, boot error [09:15] :/ [09:16] sahko: try the usmimg2disk.sh script in the same directory [09:17] Run the script with "-h" to see what it does [09:17] oh, thanks for the hint. i will have to read what it does first [09:17] :) [09:17] Example: usbimg2disk.sh -i ~/download/usbboot.img -o /dev/sdX [09:18] its supposed to do what the dd does? [09:18] It will write the content of usbboot.img to a standard USB stick with an existing VFAT partition nad make that bootable [09:18] great thanks. here goes [09:18] Also it will not remove any of th eexisting files on that stick, so it is quite safe as opposed to dd [09:19] If the stick does not have a FAT partition or you just want to reformat it then add "-f" as extra argument [09:20] higuita: yeah, i didn't remember tcpdump [09:22] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) left irc: "Leaving." [09:22] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) joined ##slackware. [09:24] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-131-50.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [09:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:28] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-131-50.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:28] alienBOB: success. thank you. [09:28] Gggggggggggggggood [09:29] :) [09:29] Wwwwwwwwwwireless lag in vncviewer... [09:29] I'm sitting in the garden with my eeepc [09:30] Damn that's why I need a laptop/notebook too. [09:31] No trouble with sun glare? [09:32] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:34] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:34] alienBOB: very nice! I need to get a laptop as well methinks. [09:34] hi guys, are there tools to assemble tcpdump's packets? [09:35] slava_dp (n=slava@195.248.167.186) joined ##slackware. [09:35] the slackware hal intergration rocks. i feel like a moron i only started using it. seems like its not things that evil. its how humans use em that makes turns em evil or not [09:35] slava_dp (n=slava@195.248.167.186) left irc: Client Quit [09:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:43] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-131-50.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [09:44] init[1] (n=althaf@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. 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[09:53] monstro (i=1000@201-92-43-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:54] hey [09:54] where I find a good tutorial to compile kernel in slackware 12.2 ? [09:55] monstro: compiling kernel is same every where - read Linux Kernel in nutshell [09:55] Dont waste your money on that pos book [09:55] frullet: ebook is awailable from Gregs site [09:56] okay [09:56] thanks [09:59] zerox0 (n=zxz@59.93.3.149) joined ##slackware. [09:59] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:00] Nick change: zerox0 -> zeroXzero [10:02] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:07] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] dang! the generic VESA-VGA framebuffer driver works better than the ATI/Mach64 driver, i wasted my time building a kernel! grr! [10:09] init[1] (n=althaf@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "brb" [10:10] hehe :p [10:11] good thing i made a slackware package of my good kernel before rebuilding so it is just a matter of installing and running lilo [10:11] brb [10:11] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:13] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] that was a fast reboot >< [10:14] yup [10:15] hmmm, I saw you quit and reconnected within a second, must have been extreme lag [10:15] monstro: this guide works well for me. http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding&s[]=kernel&s[]=compile [10:15] i got a knack for building a fast clean kernel with no fat or kludge [10:18] Camarade_Tux: 2 minutes for the reboot :-) Not a second indeed. [10:18] hitest, okay. thanks [10:19] np:) you're very welcome. [10:19] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.43) left irc: [10:20] Zosma, the longest part for a reboot is stopping the machine here ;) [10:20] it took a little bit of time, i did have to install my previous kernel run lilo & reboot [10:20] about twice as long as starting it [10:20] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:20] stealth- (n=stealth@66.183.233.184) joined ##slackware. [10:20] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:20] Mmm for me it mostly takes some time to unmount about 20 NFS and Samba drives :-P [10:21] he :P [10:22] Damn it's time they catch another spammer because... it is increasing in volume like celebrities dying. [10:22] i guess i could have more than one kernel installed side by side but i see no point in that, others might find it useful but i dont need more than one [10:23] RipVanWinkle, a stable kernel and a test one :) [10:24] Action: Camarade_Tux just git-pull'ed 2.6.31, some new options :) [10:24] But think of the uptime! I mean.. the children. [10:24] gah, don't configure with make oldconfig while following music, makes you miss a few options =/ [10:25] Zosma, aren't you curious to see what's coming next ? ;) [10:25] Mmm oldconfig sometimes messed things up for me... dunno. [10:25] Camarade_Tux: mmm no :-P I'm still using slackware 12.0 too :-P [10:25] oldconfig works nicely here :) [10:25] I'll change that in two weeks when I finally have vacation/holiday. [10:26] But I need to clean up my HDDs first because it's one pile of backup of backups of other backups. [10:26] yeah, same here ;) [10:26] :-) [10:26] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:26] time to make menuconfig and check the details :) [10:26] this is an ancient laptop here, no xorg, just a framebuffer, ati rage/Mach64 mobility, and the generic VESA-VGA driver works better than the ati/Mach64 driver, so i switched back to the kernel i built with the generic driver [10:26] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [10:27] hmmm, CONFIG_PERF_COUNTERS, seems nice :) [10:29] init[1] (n=althaf@116.68.96.125) joined ##slackware. [10:29] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest25947 [10:29] Guest25947 (n=althaf@116.68.96.125) left irc: Client Quit [10:31] init[1] (n=althaf@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [10:32] hey not sure about this , problem is with adobe flash player with firefox,whenever i try for a fullscreen firefox crash [10:32] would it be due to my binary nvdia card driver? [10:33] try seamonkey for flash, i think seamonkey handles plugins better than firefox, [10:33] RipVanWinkle: i can play flv from youtube but fullscreen crashes [10:34] try seamonkey at youtube in full screen [10:34] init[1], disable hardware acceleration in flash settings [10:34] ok .. doing that [10:35] well i did add some tty entries in inittab and got 9 working, i am afraid to go any higher [10:35] there was a small command to change background in fluxbox... (im stuck completely) [10:35] The-Croupier, fbset, xsetroot, or hsetroot, esetroot [10:36] fbsetbg ;) [10:36] Camarade_Tux: thanks ;) [10:36] =) [10:37] Camarade_Tux: that check box to disable Hw Acc seems not to accept me [10:38] hmmm, naughty girl (sorry) [10:38] its always on [10:39] Camarade_Tux: yea you are right :P [10:40] hardware acceleration? [10:40] Camarade_Tux: its working now :) yay [10:40] RipVanWinkle: yep [10:40] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [10:40] hmm, ill try to remember that [10:40] RipVanWinkle: :) [10:41] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:41] init[1], nvidia drivers ? [10:42] Camarade_Tux: yea [10:42] i've started writting things down... ;) have to much in my mind to remember :( [10:42] Camarade_Tux: but it doesn't crash the X server though [10:42] peace of mind with that :) [10:43] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:43] init[1], I used to have that, I don't anymore, are you on an old kernel or using an old nvidia driver ? [10:44] init[1]: whats wrong with your x? and the nvidia drivers? [10:45] The-Croupier: nothing wrong but , Hw Acc with adobe flash,along with fullscreen seems crash firefox [10:46] try it with hw acc on with seamonkey [10:46] Camarade_Tux: im using 2.6.29.4 kernel and latest nvdia driver [10:48] init[1], nearly my config, except that I'm on 64bit [10:48] which card ? 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[10:54] Action: init[1] AFK , gone for a drink [10:55] stupid of me: current doesnt have patches right? [10:55] or do we get 12.2 patches? [10:59] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [10:59] hmmm, optipng gives some serious compression improvements :) [10:59] The-Croupier, patches ? [11:01] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:01] what my desk3 currently looks like : http://omploader.org/vMXc2aA/mess.png =/ [11:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-21-4.multimo.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:04] Camarade_Tux: how do you take off all the around bits in the windows? [11:05] The-Croupier, they're called decorations, in openbox they're quite easy to remove (I have them removed for all windows), in others WM, I don't know but you might try Alt+Space, it should show you a menu where you can maybe remove them [11:06] fluxbox... ill try to change that at some point.. or find a style..with the smallest decorations [11:06] Camarade_Tux: thanks [11:07] The-Croupier, http://old.fluxbox.org/docs/en/faq-dev.php#decor :) [11:07] bbl [11:08] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:08] Camarade_Tux: that was first in the page ;) thanks. i was going to search for that laters [11:08] anyway, i have to go...thanks again [11:08] yw, see you :) [11:11] Camarade_Tux: do you use awesome ? [11:11] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-213-155.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] init[1], no, bare openbox [11:12] hmm. 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[11:43] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [11:43] haha [11:43] i was going to say 'not being confused all the time' [11:44] he ;p [11:44] darn it, having an effective mind is absolutely unacceptable. I better go dump all my money and time into a habit that I could replace with paying the fsck attention to my environment. [11:45] fropware != slackware [11:45] our fropware = ubuntu; [11:46] Action: dartmouth does not like stoners [11:46] u dont like "stoners" eh? [11:47] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:47] well me either. [11:47] w/e a "stoner" is. [11:47] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.93.87) joined ##slackware. [11:51] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:53] cktiger (n=cktiger@bl8-11-119.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[12:28] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:28] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] you are all gay [12:29] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs jeev [12:29] <3 [12:31] is the slackware current pidgin buildscript compatable with 12.2, with the new package extension? [12:32] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:32] or is it just a case of changing makepkg output filename? [12:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:33] yes [12:33] s/txz/tgz/ and "Bob" is your uncle. [12:37] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.23) joined ##slackware. [12:37] tar.xv supported in 12.2? [12:38] no. [12:38] actually what do you mean? "tar.xv" [12:38] xv ? [12:38] BP{k} is always faster than me ='( [12:38] Camarade_Tux: trumped :P [12:39] tooly (n=tooly@e178146144.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:39] the pidgin source is packaged as tar.xv [12:39] ='( [12:39] sorted it now. [12:39] jonsmith1982, run file on that [12:39] downloaded source from pidgin [12:39] jonsmith1982: no it's not. [12:39] it's packaged as xz. [12:40] oops, sorry. [12:40] yes it is [12:45] bbl [12:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:48] TClayton (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:49] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.23) left irc: Operation timed out [12:51] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:53] im having some trouble with some apps using my sound device as they are trying to use it on /dev/dsp which i dont have, and not finding a mixer device which all work as alsamixer works fine and i can play music, watch movies, audacious, xine, etc. can i possibly just make a dsp? [12:53] modprobe snd-mixer-oss [12:54] also modprobe snd-pcm-oss [12:55] well that gave me devs dsp and adsp. so now i think its a prob with this one app. hmm.. thank you tho :) [12:56] Hi, I have a broadcom wireless card, installed firmware from linuxwireless.org and configured it but something doesnt seem to work [12:57] i use a broadcom card. whats it doin? [12:58] it seems to recognise the network but somehow i am not able to connect [12:58] are you associated with the router or ap? [12:59] SM177Y : ap [12:59] dhcpcd? [12:59] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [12:59] if you are associated with the wireless then try dhcpcd [12:59] no static ip [12:59] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] aah. i dont know i use dhcp. but i know you can request a certain ip with ifconfig i beleive [13:00] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@87.13.89.35) joined ##slackware. [13:00] SM177Y : ifconfig for wlan0 shows ip but i cant ping the touter [13:01] gateway? [13:01] ohh yes, the gateway [13:01] xD [13:03] SM177Y: i am sick of using wired connection, anything which can make wireless work will be helpful [13:05] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-117-151.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:05] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-151.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:05] well i have a wmp300n and ive always used ndiswrapper for drivers up until recently they have a native driver i found for it which seems to work sometimes and other times it doesnt so im back with ndis at the moment, but after drivers are up i simply set up my needed options with iwconfig and ifconfig and connect using dhcpcd [13:05] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [13:06] and if you use wpa encryption, ive used wpa_supplicant and never had a problem with it [13:06] i dont know if there is a different way to do it but i never liked wpa_supplicant because your wireless password is just in plain text in the config [13:06] *cough* wicd *cough* [13:07] i am using wep but not wpa [13:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:08] yes wicd is decent. i just never needed a gui for my wifi i guess xD [13:08] take a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf [13:09] RipVanWinkle: i have tinkered a lot with rc.inet1.conf using slackbook and google search results but something seems to be weirdly wrong [13:09] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d7ec.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network this could help [13:10] what about resolv.conf if you dont have any nameservers in there you wont get internet either [13:11] there is also /etc/hosts [13:12] that shouldn't affect pinging ip addresses though. [13:12] pkgtool's netconf is not really set up to configure wireless [13:12] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) joined ##slackware. [13:14] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "[BX] Twat?! I cunt hear you!" [13:15] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-128-3.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [13:15] How do i link an orphan account? [13:16] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.93.87) left irc: "leaving" [13:16] i would suggest trying jonsmith1982's suggestions, wicd and/or alien.slackbook's network [13:16] original error is as follows user's $home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This presents the default sessions and language from being saved. file should be owned by user and have 644 permission user $Home directory must be owned by user and not write by other users [13:16] my previous comment was for vaibhav [13:16] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:16] i chown yourname:yourgroup /home/username -R to get back up again but....before that i created this new user directory with same name as old username....but problem is memory pointers to user orphan is not linked. [13:17] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [13:17] zerox0 (n=zxz@59.93.6.82) joined ##slackware. [13:17] zeroXzer1 (n=zxz@59.93.6.82) joined ##slackware. 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[13:22] wow! he sure is dead [13:23] jonsmi*: yes [13:23] i think that is done in /etc/passwd [13:24] probably a drug overdose, i bet he was a coke or meth freak [13:24] probably too much oxyclean [13:24] zeroXzer1 (n=zxz@59.93.6.82) left irc: "leaving" [13:25] not sure how you would invoke those changes though. [13:25] maybe just relogin. [13:25] would relink all pointer to files in orphan iluminator102 [13:26] v4nelle (n=van@adsl188-194.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:27] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.44.187) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:27] guys has anybody try to install fglrx on current?installed tell me [make: *** [kmod_build] Error 2 [13:27] build failed with return value 2] anybody? [13:28] usermod??? [13:29] vaibhav (n=dopa@59.92.200.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:29] i will be back [13:29] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d7ec.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving." [13:30] v4nelle: i guess that's the last error line, yes? [13:30] yeap [13:31] v4nelle: scroll back and look for the first lines that appear to indicate an error [13:31] i cant find anything... http://pastebin.com/m6a2472ec [13:33] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-213-155.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:35] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:36] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:36] v4nelle (n=van@adsl188-194.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:42] wow, people are impatient [13:42] i guess i didn't shit quickly enough [13:42] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.195) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:46] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [13:47] rabbits rabbits rabbits [13:47] pikudoz (n=casosac@201.240.242.124) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:48] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Greetings everyone. :) [13:49] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:51] hi silvergold, how are you? [13:51] doing great, thanks. yourself? [13:51] feeling groovy! [13:52] Mr. OxiClean, Billy Mays, died today. [13:53] seriously? [13:53] nm, I see it. [13:54] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [13:54] window 3 [13:54] Action: init[1] typo mistake [13:55] init[1]: you fail. :P [13:55] hmm wonder what will happen to his show on discovery channel now [13:55] rhys (n=quassel@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:55] silvergold: it waw switching to another window silvergold [13:56] they will probably find a new loud mouthed advertiser [13:56] init[1]: I know. :P [13:56] RipVanWinkle: his partner probably be the one [13:56] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-178-134.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] probably that guy that does ShamWow. (sp?) [13:57] it is people like them is why i quit watching television [13:57] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [13:58] they get annoying after a couple times, then it's like, "get off the air already" [13:58] I don't need to see a half-hour special on what OxyClean can do. :P [13:59] sh0ne (n=Unknown@93.86.135.207) joined ##slackware. [14:00] warden (n=wardenis@pool-96-225-86-8.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] KillerV (i=1000@189037003055.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [14:05] Anyone use KDE4? [14:07] Action: init[1] KDE -Kids Desktop Env :D [14:08] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [14:08] yo silvergold [14:09] Funny. No, its honestly gorgeous. Everythings a widget, it can use OSx dashboard widgets. They do alot of work on making everything full featured (Kmail, Ktorrent) [14:09] but i just cant get over it being slow as all hell. [14:09] which is probably my fault with this terrible nvidia card. [14:10] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:10] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.44) joined ##slackware. [14:10] rhys: tried disabling desktop effects? [14:11] pretty sure I have all of them disabled. [14:11] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:11] Nick change: hackedhead_ -> hackedhead [14:11] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [14:13] rhys: so no transparancy, etc.. right? [14:13] I still had "translucency" "shadows" and "cover switch" [14:13] but yea, much faster how. [14:14] which interests me. Does kwin integrate the compiz code, or are they writing similar functions entirely on their own? [14:15] I don't think there's much shared between compiz and kwin, especially not the effects [14:15] nut I might be wrong [14:15] *but [14:15] adeodatus1 (n=rp@92.84.19.253) joined ##slackware. [14:15] rhys: what nvidia card? [14:16] adeodatus1 (n=rp@92.84.19.253) left irc: Connection reset by peer [14:16] I figured reading one of the devs blogs on performance. [14:16] 7800GT [14:16] adeodatus1 (n=rp@92.84.19.253) joined ##slackware. [14:16] quassel just sucks though. what the hell is it doing. [14:16] rhys: then it should definitely be fast. I have a 7400Go and it works like a charm [14:17] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-132-77.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [14:17] even with effects enabled [14:17] y0 Camarade_Tux [14:17] Aha. Then its obvious the difference here. Tis not KDE4, tis Kubuntu's build of KDE4. grrr. fooking hacks. [14:19] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] rhys: you're on Kubuntu? [14:20] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.19.253) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] sadly. I'm bouncing around distros again right now. [14:20] rhys: Why bounce around when slackware exists? :P [14:21] Zozma (n=Winter@69-29-234-18.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] silvergold: i've used soo many different systems. If I remember, my chief complaint with slackware was it was like debian stable (out of date) with no way to easily bounce to sid. [14:21] sp (i=sp@xmission.xmission.com) left ##slackware. [14:22] KDE4 on slack isn't all that fast for me (FX5200 nvidia (legacy drivers)). Even, in KDE4, I had google earth running, when maximized, it was horribly slow. I'm on flux right now with google earth, it runs just fine no matter what. [14:22] brb [14:22] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:22] sp (i=sp@xmission.xmission.com) joined ##slackware. [14:23] rhys: I don't find slackware out of date at all, but that's my opinion. Also, I'm running current, but I found 12.2 relatively up to date as well. [14:23] << 7800GT with a spare sitting behind me that i can turn on SLI [14:23] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: ":)" [14:24] Hi. Which LIVE Linux distro is best for development in C? Is it SLAX good? [14:24] silvergold: is lilo still default on slack? [14:24] yes [14:24] *twitch* [14:25] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:25] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] adeodatus1 (n=rp@92.84.19.253) left irc: Client Quit [14:25] adeodatus (n=rp@92.84.19.253) joined ##slackware. [14:25] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:26] silvergold: and what is the current accepted network package solution? [14:27] faithful pkgtools. What ever happened to spkg? a rewrite of pkgtools in C. 100% faster. [14:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] There's still pkgtools and slackpkg and {installpkg|upgradepkg|removepkg}, and for stuff from slackbuilds.org, there's the wonderful sbopkg. [14:28] I've never heard of spkg, so I don't know what happened to that. [14:29] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [14:29] spkg was supposed to be a dropin for pkgtools. it put symlinks from installpkg, removepkg, etc etc to spkg -i, or spkg -r, much the way busybox does. [14:30] sh0ne (n=Unknown@93.86.135.207) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.12.80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:31] o. benchmarks put it at 4x faster install, 7x faster upgrade, and 30x faster remove. [14:31] shame its an orphan [14:32] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.11.243) left irc: "Leaving" [14:32] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [14:34] XandriX2 (n=xandrix@dsl-141-83.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:35] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-176.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:35] poop [14:35] Hey nix_chix [14:35] hi [14:36] yo nix_chix, how's it going ? [14:36] how's it going? [14:36] kernel panics are up [14:36] up up and up [14:36] oh silvergold duno if i said to you that i got my keyes out of the trunk we had to pull the back seat out and crawl in and get them [14:37] nix_chix: wow, I bet that was fun. :P Glad you got your keys. [14:37] heh yeah, they werent like totaly in the trunk they were on the edge and i closed them in [14:37] Are you ever going to leave then on the edge of the trunk again? :P [14:37] so we had to push up on the trunk and pull them out with a hanger [14:38] noe [14:38] :) [14:38] after half a bottle of jameson, and a few coronas i really didn't get far with the whole media pc [14:38] lol [14:39] partitioned the hard drives and started to install debian but i have a grub error because i'm trying to use 2 hard drives heh and that's where my faults are i am no good with making sure things sync up like that [14:39] nix_chix: shoulda used lilo. :P [14:39] and slackware for that matter. :P [14:39] wb RipVanWinkle [14:39] ty [14:39] i didnt have slack i had a debian dvd [14:39] was just workin with what i had [14:39] nix_chix: that is no excuse. :P [14:40] yeah silvergold but do you think i'm going to get slack downloaded, and installed and 1tb of data transfered with a 100mb ethernet before 7pm? [14:40] j/k of course. I've used Debian before, it's a nice system, it'd work good for what you're doing. [14:40] nix_chix: No. :) [14:41] silvergold, so i should stick with messing with debian honestly [14:41] yeah, I would say so. :) [14:41] maybe i should just take out the 250gig [14:42] I used 2 hdd's with Debian before, I never had any issues that I recall, and if I did, I don't recall what I did to fix it. [14:42] what are you doing, installing Debian to one hdd and having the other for more storage or are you spanning the install across both? [14:42] origionally i had windows on the smaller hard drive and i formatted that lst night and my intention was to have both show up with debian to just makeit show as one big hard drive? [14:44] eh, it probably won't show as one big drive, but what I'd do is take out the drive that you're not installing Debian to, get Debian installed, afterward, connect the other drive, then add that drive to fstab with whatever mount point you want to use. [14:44] oh well that's easy [14:44] i think i was looking to hard into it [14:46] nix_chix (n=chi@unaffiliated/chi) left irc: "Free Linux shells http://infectious.cc/" [14:48] nix_chix (n=chi@unaffiliated/chi) joined ##slackware. [14:48] woops [14:49] what? :) [14:49] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.0.25) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:49] accidentally quit [14:49] yeah i should take that out [14:49] haha [14:49] i really don't need that extra 250 it just would be nice [14:49] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.39.138) joined ##slackware. [14:50] If you're making a media PC, that extra 250 will be really valuable. [14:50] hey nachox [14:50] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [14:50] at a later point probally, i should be able to install and still have like 900gigs to play with enough to transfer the movies i want [14:50] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.39.138: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: samba, thunderbird | -current is hot -- new Xorg! :) [14:51] ok, only security :p [14:51] Camarade_Tux: you were expecting something else? :P [14:52] silvergold, no, nothing related to a beta, a rc or a final, nothing with 13 in it -_- [14:52] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. 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[15:06] getting mall cop right now [15:06] nachox, as usual =/ [15:06] sounds so exciting and there's nothing to rejoice about actually [15:06] i'm betting we'll have another for firefox in a few days :P [15:06] ='( [15:06] nachox, yeah ;p [15:07] and I sense 3.5 is going to fill the logs ;-) [15:09] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.19.253) joined ##slackware. [15:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:09] Camarade_Tux: I've read that 3.5 is to be released 6.30.09 [15:10] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.195) joined ##slackware. [15:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] in two days ? :o [15:10] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d7ec.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] guess I was right : http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8u5qz/firefox_rc2_is_available/c0afqpc [15:11] Is there a restore function in linux? [15:11] ok, then we'll have the first vulnerability in 3 days, 4 maybe [15:11] iluminator101, what youls the restore function do? [15:11] *would [15:13] yosyp (n=user@unaffiliated/yosyp) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Karu (n=alch@77-233-90-66.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [15:14] i am not sure what happened..but i can access my home directory but....folder that was there before are not visible [15:14] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [15:14] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:16] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:17] this was intial error i had [15:17] user's $home/.dmrc file is beign ignored. this presents the default session and language from being saved. file should owned by user and have 644 permission. user $home directory must by owned by user and not write by other users [15:20] so did you double check those perms/ownership like the error suggests? [15:21] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:22] nvision (n=nvision@g230010226.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: No route to host [15:23] installing almost complete [15:23] Action: nix_chix breakdances [15:23] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-133-124.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:23] hmm, awesome. this thrift store computer actually works [15:23] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [15:23] i wish there was a faster way to transfer 1tb of data lol [15:23] *nix_chix sends pic of her breakdancing [15:23] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-155-239.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:24] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [15:31] ntldr (n=omg@c7C4345C1.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [15:31] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] oooo 2more minutes [15:32] nix_chix, there is [15:32] have a faster connection :) [15:32] hi guys! i'm trying to make a slackware64-current boot cd, but I can't seem to find the file isolinux/isolinux.boot, which is specified in the howto located at isolinux/README.TXT [15:32] what happened [15:32] hrmf [15:33] wrong boot manager [15:33] (sorry couldn't resist...) [15:35] I've rid myself of these socalled Desktop Environments. But is there are way to deal with WiFi within a shell? [15:36] yosyp: iwconfig and wpa_supplicant [15:37] iluminator101 (n=iluminat@ool-4578d7ec.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:40] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:42] still grub doesn't like it what the hell [15:42] i've installed 3times already [15:42] nvision (n=nvision@g230010226.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:42] total bollocks [15:43] nix_chix: was this another try with both drives in? [15:44] or did you remove the 250? [15:44] sounds like a debianism [15:44] i took the 250 out yeah [15:44] and it said it installed but i still got a grub error [15:44] what does grub complain about? What's the error? [15:44] error 21 can't boot basically [15:46] have you looked at /boot/grub/menu.1st or whatever that file is to make sure it is pointing to the correct disk partition? and is the bootflag set on that partition? [15:46] error 21 = it can't find the disk to boot from. [15:46] it's /boot/grub/menu.lst [15:47] ntldr: you did not read that README too well did you? [15:47] NOTES: The isolinux/isolinux.boot file will be created on the disc; it's not supposed to be in the source tree. I mention this only because so many people report the "missing" isolinux/isolinux.boot file as a bug. [15:48] [15:49] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:52] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:55] think its going now [15:55] detects both hard drives [15:56] partitioning is the thing i've always failed at:P [15:56] nix_chix: good luck. :) [15:56] ya [15:56] nix_chix, look, it's like when you have several children and food, you need to partition the food :D [15:56] ha [15:56] I used to be horrible at partitioning. I'm by no means a guru now with it, but I've gotten much better where I have a basic knowledge of what I'm doing. [15:57] we always had to fend for ourselves:P [15:57] Camarade_Tux: haha [15:58] Whoops, we have 4 partitions, sorry nix_chix, you're left out, go find something yourself. :P [15:58] with a 3 month old there is no partitioning you let him eat what ever amount he wants haha [15:58] similac on tap [15:58] nix_chix, wait about a year or two ;p [15:58] \o/ adesklets works again, finally. :) [15:59] Camarade_Tux: Then she'll be exercising all the time, chasing the little one around. She'll be out of breath and he'll be looking back laughing and giggling. [15:59] alienBOB: thanks for pointing that out :-) [16:00] and my mom is pestering me when i'll compile another kid, i said yeah i'm not even thinking about that right now [16:00] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:00] nix_chix: lol, you just recently got done compiling and installing the first one. :P [16:00] i know, she gives me no breaks [16:01] anybody have problems logging in to yahoo server via pidgin? [16:01] nix_chix: gosh, how many grandkids does she want. :P [16:01] compiling another kid..... oh the things you see on IRC. [16:01] http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2130 =) [16:01] thanks to advances in medical technology the IUD will pretty much prevent another one for up to 5 years [16:01] so she can just hold her damn horses [16:01] skibur: have you read the changelog, etc. for pidgin at all? It gives the answer to that issue. [16:02] nix_chix: the next time she asks, just say, not for a while, kids have a ton of dependencies. :P [16:02] skibur: yea. yahoo changed some things and it died. [16:02] haha [16:02] last I read was to add (ip and domain name) in hosts [16:02] doesn't work [16:03] there is nothing you should be doing to fix pidgin in hosts. It's a simple fix, go read about it. [16:05] Karu (n=alch@77-233-90-66.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:05] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] screensaver just started when i was tabbing windows :o [16:09] rhys (n=quassel@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:11] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:13] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] what version are you using silvergold? [16:13] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] 2.5.7 [16:14] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.67.54) joined ##slackware. [16:16] just add "cn" [16:16] nice fix [16:16] 2.5.5 [16:16] thanks [16:16] you're welcome [16:17] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.12.138) joined ##slackware. [16:18] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [16:20] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.19.253) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.56.135) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:20] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] Here's an interesting error [16:22] configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [16:22] v4nelle (n=van@adsl12-214.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:22] fresh install slackware64. [16:22] hiptobecubic^: y0, how's it going? [16:22] ouch, that's not good. [16:22] v4nelle (n=van@adsl12-214.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [16:24] silvergold, yeah... i'm not even sure what they are talking about. [16:24] hiptobecubic^: I guess you use the wrong CFLAGS (just had that today) [16:24] tooly (n=tooly@e178146144.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [16:25] pprkut, hmmm [16:30] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:30] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] sigh... [16:31] I don't understand these connection issues at all. Signal strength oscillates between 2/5 and 0/5 without anything moving [16:32] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:33] slackbare (n=wilson@2001:470:1f10:785:204:76ff:fe36:65e9) joined ##slackware. [16:34] hi is there any silver bullet for the high res streaming movies that just play slow ? [16:34] I mean after downloading plus playing in some player works fine but ..... how about online ? [16:35] maybe your internet speed is too slow [16:35] paul424, own an nvidia card ? [16:35] oh, streaming, forget about what I said [16:35] "bufffering" ... [16:35] I'm wondering why my X is running @ 96.5-99.9 cpu with gnome+compiz-fusion now since I did this new install and it did not run like this before... anyother window manager cpu is fine. [16:35] hnn why does the streamiig technical is slower ? 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[16:45] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-57-31.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:45] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-182-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:47] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [16:47] slackbare: what app did you use to check system status with? [16:47] I just typed in top [16:48] my cpu is even hot lol [16:48] here is the funny part lol [16:48] guys, anywhere where to watch online manga movies? google is not helping so much...getting lots of sites to watch trailers [16:48] if I keep my fingers stuck on turning the cube like non-stop X slowly stops using the cpu [16:49] it must be a config thing and then again it could be compiz-fusion lol [16:49] massive graphic on a i965GM may do that [16:50] intel chip, 3D, hmmm [16:50] it's not lagging the system for the most part [16:50] open source OS, windows ? [16:51] Slackware Linux 12.2 with gnomeslackbuild.org complete with compiz-fusion [16:51] Camarade_Tux: since when? thats news... [16:52] The-Croupier, that was just a comparison between intel graphics/3D and microsoft/FOSS, both sound wrong ;) [16:52] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:52] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:52] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:54] ;) [16:54] im looking for a site to watch manga movies.. used to have one on my old site... dont remember what it was and cannot find anynew ones either [16:54] i just wanted to watch something today [16:54] :( [16:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] youtube [16:57] youtube..if you know what you wanna watch ...i dont ;) [16:57] humm disabling rc.fuse would cause what kind of issues? [16:59] slackbare, will make use of fuse-based filesystems impossible [16:59] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:59] ntfs-3g being one of them [16:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:00] what depends on it theses days ? [17:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:01] in base slackware, ntfs-3g [17:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] hoobop (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] but you may install others [17:01] so it wont mess up like any of my compiz crap or gnome settings? [17:02] who mentionned gnome in base slackware ? [17:02] True [17:02] I have no idea how gnome does some things [17:02] I don't think it mounts any fs but I don't know gio/gvfs very well (the part that could mount) [17:03] (gio is gtk but gvfs is gnome) [17:04] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [17:09] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:09] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [17:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Wiren (i=Wiren@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [17:14] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:14] nvision (n=nvision@g230010226.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Connection timed out [17:15] nvision (n=nvision@g230010226.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:15] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [17:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] Alright that time i quit on purpose ;) [17:20] Has anyone adapted SBo to x86_64 ? Other than changing the $Arch variable [17:21] lots of scripts are being updated [17:21] how many here use xofce? [17:22] as their gui? [17:22] there's a changelog entry that says "script updates that only add x86_64 support won't be mentioned in the changelog", so it's sorta hard to say how many... [17:22] blacksheep, ++ [17:22] QuakeLive (n=Blank@c122-106-220-69.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:22] hiptobecubic<< you use it? [17:23] Can I get 64 bit slack with torrents? [17:23] Urchlay, so if it's been updated, then changing Arch is all that one needs to do? [17:23] hiptobecubic: also some of us have been using SBo scripts on x86_64 for a good while now (slamd64 has the mostly same issues/solutions as 64-bit slackware) [17:23] hiptobecubic: ARCH, not Arch, but yes :) [17:23] blacksheep, yes [17:23] hiptobecubic<< dose it look and feel more linux-ie? [17:23] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-57-31.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] hiptobecubic: set it in your environment (in .bash_profile or somewhere) so you don't have to been editing the slackbuild scripts [17:24] Urchlay, that's what i was trying to figure out. .bash_profile... of course thanks [17:25] "don't have to been editing"... I fail English :( [17:25] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:26] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:26] Action: silvergold directs Urchlay to English 101 in Room 318. :) [17:26] How do I get the 64 bit DVD? [17:26] for slackware [17:28] QuakeLive: there isn't one. [17:28] hiptobecubic: in general, if you see LIBDIRSUFFIX mentioned in a SBo script, that means it should work on 64-bit. If you don't, it might still work... be careful with libraries though: you do NOT want 64-bit shared libs in /usr/lib (the correct place is /usr/lib64) [17:28] QuakeLive: although you could use rsync to download the whole tree and roll your own. [17:28] hiptobecubic: in other words, examine the package before installing it [17:29] Where do I find the 64 bit Slackware DVD? [17:29] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Peace!" [17:29] whoops [17:29] QuakeLive: I just answered that. [17:29] didn't scroll down [17:30] Is there a net installer? [17:30] Wiren (n=aad@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] QuakeLive, either download it and burn your own iso or install it the bootloader to usb and install it from your downloads or a server [17:31] Wiren (n=aad@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:31] the installer supports nfs, http, and ftp. but that's mostly intended for local mirrors. [17:31] Wiren (n=aad@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] QuakeLive, you can specify an http/ftp server during install but it's terribly slow [17:31] not if said server is on your local lan. [17:32] Is there a DVD that doesn't have the source? [17:32] no. [17:32] ok. [17:32] hiptobecubic, i just installed it by rsyncing slackware64-current and pointing the installer at your download directory [17:32] So just get slackware 12.2 [17:32] hiptobecubic: stop talking to yourself. [17:33] when does the next slackware come out? [17:33] hiptobecubic: talking to yourself again? [17:33] QuakeLive: when it's ready. [17:33] heya BP{k}, how goes? [17:33] silvergold: not too bad :) yourself? [17:34] nvision (n=nvision@g230010226.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:34] silvergold, as usual :) [17:34] BP{k}: Doing excellent thanks. My fresh current install is coming along very nice. Things that didn't work before are working great now. :) [17:34] hiptobecubic: Well, as long as you don't start answering yourself. [17:34] silvergold: \o/ [17:35] I installed Arch yesterday, but found the online documentation less than satifactory. [17:35] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [17:35] So I'm giving slack a shot [17:35] QuakeLive, i would suggest giving it more than half a day testdrive :) [17:35] Arch [17:35] ? [17:35] any distro. :P [17:36] Meh. [17:36] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:36] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] I found the problem.... It's not compiz-fusion.. [17:37] I'm running kde+Compiz-fusion [17:37] and X is @ 0.0 cpu [17:37] everything is like calm and my cpu is at normal temp. [17:37] the issue.... [17:37] is GNOME [17:38] slackbare, lolz [17:38] I never has this issue with gnome... [17:38] removepkg gnome ;) [17:38] :P [17:38] I think it's alot of the "startup applications" [17:38] sz^ (n=sz@a91-152-184-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:38] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-197-4.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [17:38] alot of ppl use kde [17:39] I use fluxbox [17:39] I or gnome [17:39] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "/" [17:39] slackbare, xfce :) [17:39] because I use Solaris alot [17:39] ‘ [17:39] osol is great. (OpenSolaris) [17:40] “’ hado ken [17:40] never tried solaris [17:40] wow 0.0 and I'm like putting presure on it now with compiz-fusion. [17:40] osol is awsome [17:40] KDE4 is sort of slow for me, I think if I disabled the effects, it'd be better, but google earth doesn't even run good in kde4 [17:40] gabriel, .... or should I say RYU!? [17:40] slackbare: agreed. I have that on a second hdd in the computer, :) [17:40] it lacks alot of packages and some of the stuff is outdated but over all a very stable system. [17:40] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.44) left irc: [17:41] dude, that kde4 is only for those with supercomputers, your supposed to choose xfce or fvwm or one of the other little window managers [17:41] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [17:41] use openbox, bare openbox :) [17:42] RipVanWinkle: I'm on fluxbox. :) [17:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] but have been trying kde4, but with the effects, gosh it is slow, for me anyway. [17:42] I like how kde is so stable on slackware [17:42] does not take up any process either like gnome [17:42] i have a lovely console with bash with vesa/vga running @ 1024x768x24 :D [17:42] where is everyone [17:43] and still has good graphics [17:43] Action: jeev kicks thrice`'s vagina [17:43] RipVanWinkle, mine is 1280x800, not even standard ;-) [17:43] Action: jeev kicks rob0's vagina [17:43] RipVanWinkle: heh, that works too. [17:43] Camarade_Tux: 1680x1050 :) [17:43] this is that old laptop i bought from craigslist [17:44] RipVanWinkle: how old? [17:44] my desktop does better [17:44] silvergold, for your linux console, out of X ? [17:44] well... it has a win98 OEM sticker on the bottom [17:44] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:45] Camarade_Tux: I'm in X on fluxbox, I have close to that in VT too. [17:45] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:45] silvergold, nice :) [17:45] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:45] it is a Panasonic Toughbook CF-72 so i would say it is close to 8 to 10 years old, still works great though [17:46] wow, but hey, of it works. :) [17:46] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:47] i like it, no regrets about buying it [17:47] http://www.luci.org/luci-discuss/msg00071.html What do you think? [17:48] I've been looking for laptops lately, it'd be nice to get one. used though, new ones are outside my budget. :P [17:48] look in craigslist in your hometown or the nearest big city in your state [17:48] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] sloinn (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [17:49] gods dammit [17:49] RipVanWinkle: yeah, been doing that alot lately. [17:49] y0 Urchlay [17:49] dog pissed in the house again [17:49] Urchlay: what'd you do now? [17:49] I did nothing [17:49] eh, well, I cleaned up dog-piss just now [17:50] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:50] hey, in some building scripts on slacky.eu, there are "requiredbuilder" calls [17:50] anybody knows what is it ? [17:50] Urchlay: incontinent dog? :P [17:50] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-132-77.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] this is a 100% housebroken animal, and he has one of those doggy-doors to get in & out of the house. He pissed on the floor 5 feet away from the door, which I take to mean he deliberately went inside the house [17:51] sloinn: we don't use slacky.eu and that isn't a recommended source for scripts. [17:51] Urchlay: ah, he did it on purpose then. :P [17:52] sloinn: stick with slackbuilds.org, you won't go wrong [17:52] y0 hitest, how goes? [17:52] "requiredbuilder" tries to figure out dependencies for the package that was just built. Normal slackware pkgtools do not use dependency info. You can remove the calls, but I'd be leery of using a build script from slacky.eu [17:52] silvergold: good:) you? [17:52] hitest: doing excellent, thanks. :) [17:53] silvergold: he's pissed because "mama" (his actual owner) has been gone all day yesterday & today, and I haven't paid enough attention to him apparently [17:54] i'd throw it outside [17:54] silvergold, unfortunately there is notification daemon only gnome>xfce http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/notification-daemon-xfce/ [17:54] (I fed him a bite of my breakfast, scratched him on the ears...) [17:54] not gnome > kde [17:55] it's needed for libnotify plugin for pidgin [17:55] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] ehmm. Who here is at all familiar with facebook? [17:55] antiwire is alive, damn [17:55] facebook, bad [17:55] I'm getting the same "Reminder: $person invited you to join facebook" email every 4 hours or so [17:55] I am *not* happy about it [17:55] Urchlay, what's facebook? oh the human index or idiots [17:55] he, what did I just say :D [17:55] yea i got that too [17:56] it's fucking spam is what it is [17:56] !bsd [17:56] shower time, night all :) [17:56] comrad. [17:56] good night Camarade_Tux [17:56] what is the bot character? [17:56] jeev: i've been out in the woods for 3 days [17:56] do we have a bot here? [17:56] silvergold, hmmmm, I didn't mean to write that... [17:56] not the 'night all' part... [17:56] QuakeLive: yes, but he doesn't do much except kicking people. [17:56] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:57] no info? [17:57] Camarade_Tux: haha [17:57] BP{k}, and banning them, you forgot about banning people -_- [17:57] what kind of info are you looking for? [17:57] Camarade_Tux: true :) [17:57] antiwire, too bad you didnt say where.. hunting........... for you [17:57] well, slackboy should actually feed the ##slackware stats [17:57] (the stats haven't been updated since january) [17:57] heh, I just need to say elbereth and I get root access on any slack box ;) [17:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] my email address has gotten into too many spammers' databases, guess it's time to change it again [17:58] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:58] QuakeLive: speak friend and enter? [17:58] Camarade_Tux: I thought unixfool was working on that. [17:58] "lemon" ? ;-) [17:58] http://addictions.tumblr.com/post/34997611/xkcd-slackware-gives-root-access-if-user-says [17:59] BP{k}, that's what she^Whe said but he never did [17:59] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] true. [17:59] (and /me won't bother him if he's busy with other things) [18:03] Wiren (n=aad@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [18:04] GPL is a virus, think it. i want $$ it's gotten progressively worse, and as Dianora already wrote, gplv3 is a joke [18:04] from ##freebsd [18:04] hahahahah [18:04] windows vista with a few themes [18:06] asbanatol! [18:06] Action: cmk_zzz hmm, no, that was not the right word... [18:07] ok, i am going to see if inittab will give me as many as 12 tty consoles, gotta reboot [18:07] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:08] BSD users remind me of Micro$oft [18:09] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] what? [18:09] Get this man out of my channel, please. [18:09] yup, got 12 now [18:10] nice [18:10] how did you do that? [18:10] err how are you navigating? [18:10] I mean the BSD licence lets you make it closed source. [18:10] it fills up all the F-keys for you RipVanWinkle? [18:10] i found a sone info at linuxfromscratch one word of warning though if you have xorg installed dont mod your inittab or it could get screwy [18:11] yup, plus alt right arrow or left arrow [18:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] RipVanWinkle: that's neat, I didn't know you could do that [18:12] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-119.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:12] i knew it could be done, but it was years ago i read about [18:12] so i had to google for the info and find out how again [18:13] QuakeLive: dude.....stop bad-mouthing me;-) I use FreeBSD:) M$?! [18:14] Just the BSD licence. You could effectively make BSD into windows. [18:15] QuakeLive, windows erased the copyrightes [18:15] we know all about the bsd licence, we already know microsoft already stole code from bsd [18:15] Action: dartmouth tries to kick QuakeLive from the channel [18:15] Action: dartmouth fails [18:15] erasing copyrightes != stoling code from bsd [18:16] even we pirate windows apps [18:16] rm /freenode/slackware/QuakeLive [18:16] lol [18:16] did it work? [18:16] You need to be root. [18:16] darn! [18:16] locate QuakeLive | rm -r [18:16] Permission denied. [18:16] get Pat in here, he knows the root password [18:17] Action: dartmouth calls Neo [18:17] I hope the hostility is fakes? [18:17] most of it lol [18:18] i think QuakeLive was pestering hitest [18:18] just a bit [18:18] heh [18:18] alienBOB: " BSD users remind me of Micro$oft" [18:18] So? [18:18] alienBOB: " Just the BSD licence. You could effectively make BSD into windows." [18:19] dartmouth: the trolls only win if you feed them [18:19] It just means QuakeLive is not too bright ;-) [18:19] ooohh how clever! he used a USD sign in microsoft's name, how original [18:19] No reason for kicking him [18:19] alienBOB: this is why W|GG|T trusts you to be an op here and not myself. [18:19] You op here? I remember other times dartmouth... it is never going to happen [18:20] alienBOB: I don't think he should be kicked. hence my use of a ;-) [18:20] alienBOB: :( [18:20] Action: jeev kicks hitest [18:20] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE62FA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [18:20] alienBOB: probably for the best, though. as much as I like to complain about you, you're alot more tolerant than I am. [18:20] ouch [18:20] Action: alienBOB kicks jeev ... next time for real [18:20] Or sober up [18:21] i dont drink [18:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:21] let QuakeLive hang around a while, we gotta have somebody to make fun of [18:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] well, alright, but i say we set the channel restrictions to only allow his host to connect with QuakeLive_Loves_MS as his nick. [18:22] *s/connect/join [18:22] wtf man [18:22] So stop pestering the newbs [18:23] Urchlay: I may be in one of those moods where I'm being a jerk and don't know I'm being a jerk. Is this the case? [18:23] somebody says something you disagree with, it's time to do the IRC equivalent of call the cops on him? [18:23] dartmouth: eh, well, you're overreacting a bit, IMO [18:23] eh, well, yeah, I suppose. [18:23] Urchlay, no its call the ircops not the cops :P [18:23] Urchlay would've called the cops 100 times on me then [18:23] dartmouth: would it help if I ban you for a while ? [18:24] nah. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't see ##slackware in my channel list in my xchat monitor [18:24] jeev: eh? naw, I think people are entitled to speak their minds (or their mindlessness, in some cases...) [18:24] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@87.13.89.35) left irc: "byez" [18:24] the BSDs are a great OS, no sense in catagorizing them with microsoft/windows, at least the BSDs are free & downloadable and a hell of a lot more secure [18:25] Amen [18:25] Urchlay, that's why if you jumped into a smash pit that i was in, i would catch you.. [18:25] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:25] what makes you think they are a lot more secure? [18:25] than windows? [18:25] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] yes [18:26] kicking, so easy.. even a caveman can do it [18:26] nachox: because they are? [18:26] nachox, that question has an answer i think you already know the answer to [18:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] hacking windows is MUCH more profitable than hacking either bsd or linux, windows had a poor security record in xp, but check how vista is doing, they are even fast patching the problems now, windows being insecure is just a perception these days imho [18:27] nachox: you know something I don't about the *BSDs because I thought it was fairly common knowledge that they were much, much more secure than the MS OS's [18:28] I have never heard of an exploit on a BSD system that wasn't due to poor system administration [18:28] nachox, i wonder when it will be profitable to hax0r mac. [18:28] i honestly cant wait, just to shut the crowd up [18:29] it's not that difficult, just not PROFITABLE .. YET [18:30] it is an interesting question though. Historically you can point to a lot of security flaws in Windows but lately. I don't know. The old exchange and sql server applications had a lot of security holes in them, but was that thanks to Windows? sendmail have had its fair share of problems as well and I bet it runs on BSD too [18:30] mmm. I was really interested in this until I smelled chili dogs cooking in the kitchen. [18:31] cmk_zzz, indeed [18:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:31] just wait, i am sure some group of evil crakers are working on the latest exployte [18:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:32] Wow I'm impressed with this kde+compiz in slackware [18:32] everything is so calm on it [18:32] compared to the gnomeslackbuild.org setup [18:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:32] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:32] slackbare: KDE4, right? [18:33] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:33] kde3.5 on slack 12.2 [18:33] oh [18:33] if you upgrade to -current you'll have a shiny new kde4 [18:33] ##slackware: mode change '-o nachox' by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.39.138 [18:33] kde4 and compiz? I thought KDE4 had its own wobeelycobbely eye-candy stuff [18:33] ? [18:33] it does [18:34] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:34] i love kde4 aesthetically, but ion took over when it became really obvious how functional it was [18:34] it does kde3.5+compiz-fusion manually configured [18:34] mine is ^ [18:34] i've found my DE's are regressing somehow the more I need my machine to do. [18:35] dartmouth: indeed. I'm using wmii though but tiling wm's are the future. So efficient. [18:35] oh i know. the alt + > thing for the next workspace is so handy. I barely use my mouse anymore. [18:37] my only problem is applications like gimp and stuff which doesn't really work well in wmii. How are they doing in ion? [18:37] cmk_zzz: they work good in ion imo. [18:38] in ion they're ok, but you have to give it its own workspace to really get the most out of it. every window gets it's own little tile to the side, and bulk of the workspace goes to the image [18:39] i would like to see more navigation tools built specifically for ion, though. it is incomplete in some ways [18:40] cool, I might revisit ion again then. ion uses lua for configuration right? [18:40] yes [18:42] Nick change: nix_chix -> chi [18:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:43] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:44] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [18:48] good evening everyone [18:48] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-57-31.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:48] salutations amazon10x [18:50] wow [18:51] what? [18:51] so i'm looking at this paystub of mine [18:51] and you're broke? :P [18:51] ha, well besides that [18:51] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:51] haha [18:51] it looks like about 30.5% was taken in taxes [18:51] ouch [18:52] it's just a bit of bummer to think i'm going to get x dollars and then i only get x*0.7 [18:52] government welfare, you gotta pay for all those poor bankers and automakers [18:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-156-251.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] back in a bit [18:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:54] i think i'm going to try to take out a private loan soon :/ [18:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] welcome back [18:56] ty:) [18:56] amazon10x: you can borrow 100$ from me [18:56] hitest: wb. :) [18:56] that was quick [18:56] very nice of you :) [18:57] ty, silvergold:) [18:57] what kind of rate can you offer [18:57] amazon10x: I suppose you need much more than 100$ [18:57] ha, yeah, i think so. i'll probably go for something in the 4k range [18:57] ouch [18:57] There's a bank of thumbs now? :P [18:58] I got thumbs saved up, yes [18:58] amazon10x: congratulations, you just cleared the bank out. :P [18:58] thumbs: :P, how's it going? [18:58] it's the red business, go away [18:58] the money you will be getting in the loan is what the government took from you in taxes and gave to the banks, its a dirty shame [18:58] here's the situation: i need money for tuition. right now i have enough, but i think in a year i won't. so, i think i'll get the loan now, while i have money in the bank, because it'll be easier [18:58] amazon10x: yes, pay it back while you can. [18:58] financial aid? :P [18:58] silvergold: all right [18:59] RipVanWinkle: yea, i can't wait to start up a business and what not so that i can siphon off all my profits to offshores :P [18:59] thumbs: yeah, i'll try to live frugally when i get out of school so i can pay this crap back in a year or two [18:59] or declair bankrupsy and let the government give you a pile of cash in bailout money [19:00] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [19:00] actually, i had this epic plan the other day. once you get out of college, just declare bankrupcy [19:00] i want to see when a government is declared bankrupt [19:00] but it turns out that students loans stay with you forever no matter what [19:01] in soviet simcity, the government can be a loser [19:01] i would rather see the USArmed forces toss em all in the stockade for breach of contract, and start from scratch with people that actually have some integrety [19:01] in simcity, I used to go bankrupt often. [19:01] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:01] Damn. I will be back in an hour or so. I'm cooking chicken for dinner. See you folks in a bit:) [19:02] later hitest [19:02] later silvergold:) [19:02] oh man, it's already 7pm [19:02] i need to finish a website in a few hours... and i haven't started [19:03] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [19:03] amazon10x: Hello World!Hello World! [19:03] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Hello World! [19:04] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:05] sz^ (n=sz@a91-152-184-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:05] maxote: not w3 compliant. [19:05] here we go, www.greennote.com. that's what i need [19:05] Code 200. Under construction! [19:05] thumbs, is it required to be w3 compliant? [19:05] maxote: always. [19:05] maxote: to be fair, I was missing the doctype too. [19:05] otherwise, what? [19:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [19:07] maxote: broken web pages make for a broken Internet [19:08] and a broken internet makes for dead kittehs [19:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:09] yes, and broken economy does broken internet [19:11] i have an awesome idea for a business that would provide to people computers that always work [19:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:11] if you get a browser that will display errors on websites you will find about 95% of websites has errors in its code [19:11] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-178-134.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] RipVanWinkle: not my sites :) [19:11] i'm going to be doing some testing of different hardware and software over the next month or so. i think i'm going to use slackware as the OS :D [19:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] when i started looking at the error console on websites, i decided that most webmasters are drunk as hell when they work [19:13] does the leader guy patrick have a fulltime job, or does he just do slack? [19:13] RipVanWinkle: haha [19:13] time to fire up the good computer [19:14] are you using the evil computer right now? [19:14] an old cheap laptop [19:15] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] cheap laptops ftw. i'm on a new cheap laptop right now [19:16] none of the modern laptops are good to serve you weird resolutions in a *nix os [19:16] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:16] hm? [19:16] what exactly is a weird resolution though? [19:16] mine does 1440x900 and it works fine [19:16] this is an old panasonic toughbook late 1990's has a win98 oem sticker on the bottom [19:17] my laptop is doing 1024x600 right now [19:17] Intel had been discollaborating the drivers of 1280x800 resolutions for *nix OSes for many years [19:17] QuakeLive (n=Blank@c122-106-220-69.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [19:17] i did not bother to install xorg on it, just CLI goodies [19:17] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleeps" [19:17] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.12.138) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:18] antiwire: hey, how was the camping trip? [19:18] BP{k}: nvidia drivers don't compile with 2.6.31 :) [19:18] ill tell you a wierd resolution an old Voodoo card would do , 970x760 (half way in between 800x600 & 1024x768) [19:19] and that one seemed to hard/dangerous for me to figure it out [19:19] chopp: good times, weather cooperated [19:19] antiwire: right on [19:20] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Hello [19:20] i think it was started in 2001 until now 2009, no *nix graphic drivers yet. [19:21] hello bayrouni [19:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:23] C_Tux: just give it anywhere from a few more days to a week [19:24] nvidia will post up beta driver versions that work with 2.6.31 at any moment now [19:24] antiwire: hey, it's still -rc1 so I guess it's more like weeks ;) [19:24] yep [19:24] sometimes they throw up a beta though [19:24] we'll see [19:25] but I may be running nouveau by the time they post it :) [19:25] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:25] C_Tux: As soon as nouveau supports 3D accel for my chipset I'm moving too [19:26] well, my only use for 3D on linux is glxgears so I'll move pretty soon ;) [19:26] Vi^3PirePengy (n=java@h96-61-183-181.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Vi^3PirePengy (n=java@h96-61-183-181.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left ##slackware. [19:27] http://imagebin.org/53944 look how perdy my desktop is [19:27] I need the 3D stuff for Google Earth, openarena and eduke32 hi res ;) [19:28] Pig_Pen, that doesn't look like anything close to where you live [19:28] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:28] ah, eduke... ='( [19:28] nope, that is my "wishful thinking" wallpaper [19:29] ahh [19:29] http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/2209310048_a046f2fa1a.jpg?v=0 this is what it looks like where i live [19:29] the american dream wallpaper [19:29] lol, the big foot wallpaper [19:29] yeah [19:30] let me check my camera, i think there is some photos of my backyard on it [19:30] Pig_Pen: have a look at my desktop ;) http://omploader.org/vMXc2aA [19:30] my desk3 really looked like that today ;p [19:30] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.195) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [19:31] wow! either you are really busy or really messy [19:31] I usually tile my windows but I just had too many then ;) [19:32] Nick change: VampirePenguin -> Vampy [19:32] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] C_Tux: good grief. :P [19:33] he :P [19:33] well, ladies, time to go to bed :) [19:34] Action: silvergold hits C_Tux over the head with a frying pan. [19:34] There, he's out. [19:34] http://imagebin.org/53945 back yard [19:34] silvergold: hey, wait, I'm not in my bed yet ! [19:34] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:35] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) joined ##slackware. [19:35] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-119.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [19:35] C_Tux: you shouldn't be talking right now. :P [19:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] http://imagebin.org/53946 front yard [19:36] silvergold: ;p [19:36] gah, music disappeared :o [19:36] C_Tux: I hacked your jukebox, from now on, it'll only play "Eye of the Tiger" [19:37] silvergold: only a part of it disappeared ;) [19:37] bayrouni1 (n=bayrouni@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [19:37] which part? :P [19:38] Noir Désir [19:38] hey guys, if i get a loan at 6.8%, what does that usually mean for how often the 6.8% is applied? [19:38] I was listening to it, then rebooted and pff, gone [19:38] Pig_Pen: its a big rack [19:38] wonder if that's ntfs*'s fault [19:38] when in doubt blame windows [19:38] well, I still have a .rar of it [19:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] Pig_Pen: well, I really don't get what happened [19:40] eviljames: wake up ! [19:40] what is missing? your music files? [19:40] C_Tux: he's not around, visiting family and prior to that, fishing trip. [19:41] amazon10x: it depends on contract dont u think? :) [19:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:41] silvergold: ah, that's why [19:41] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] pupit: well, i would think there would be some kind of norm. i guess if it's called a 6.8% APR then it's every year (annually), right? [19:43] hmmm. I need a simple High Availability solution that works like this: HTTP request -> Server. Server keeps track if any of the applications on port 5000 or 5001 is running and redirects the incoming request to any of them. Anyone got any good suggestion? I know there is reverse proxy functionality in some web servers but I don't see that they support the app monitoring part. Anyone know of anything? [19:44] cmk_zzz: someone will probably have something that'll do it, but if not, it sounds like something that should be easily scriptable [19:44] Nick change: Vampy -> VampirePenguin [19:44] really going to bed now, night :) [19:44] bayrouni1 (n=bayrouni@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:44] night C_Tux [19:44] C_Tux: see ya [19:44] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.23.214) left irc: "Leaving." [19:44] amazon10x: no, not necessarily, it could be montly... or maybe it depends on sum u have taken [19:45] pupit: hmm, alright [19:45] banks are there to profit from the loan [19:45] not the users [19:45] quakelive (n=adsf@c122-106-220-69.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:45] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-215-169.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] amazon10x: yes, if I don't find anything soon, I'll hack something together [19:45] Slackware is much easier to install than Arch linux. [19:45] By a long shot [19:45] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:45] my mother worked in a bank, its pretty messed up with loans.. [19:46] i been using Linux for about 10 years now, tried many distros, i find slackware to be the best out of all of them, (just my personal opinion) [19:46] How do I increase my slack level? [19:46] you keep playing [19:46] haha [19:46] playing what? [19:46] slack [19:46] quakelive: many of them say arch is better form them because it has better package manager... [19:47] hey antiwire [19:47] slack level? [19:47] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@72.18.59.24) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [19:47] s/form/for [19:47] silvergold: what up [19:47] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:47] RipVanWinkle: I'm guessing he means his level of knowledge for slackware. [19:47] pupit: THat's a bit shallow isn't it? A distro that ships without man-pages or other documentation is better than slack? BAH! [19:47] I didn't know you could play slack [19:47] antiwire: nothing much here, yourself? [19:47] chilling. cleaning up all my gear now that i'm back [19:47] antiwire: Did a fresh install of current night before last, getting everything back in order. [19:48] I'm going to clean install after -current freezes [19:48] experience, keep using slack and you can only get better at it, give up and go back to the braindead easy distros and you lose [19:48] antiwire: you use google earth + kde4 right? Is google earth really slow in kde4 when maximized? [19:49] cmk_zzz: i suppose it is, but i am not a guy to speak about, im using slackware for a about 3-4 years and still, i'm learning about linux/gnu [19:49] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:49] silvergold: nope, not here. It runs great in all modes [19:49] I'm guessing Pat doesn't liek GNOME. [19:49] like* [19:49] pupit: ;) we are all still learning about linux, especially as they keep changing it all the damn time [19:50] antiwire: It is horrible when maximized here in kde4, in flux it's just fine. It's nvidia FX5200 with the prop drivers. [19:50] cmk_zzz: i hear you :) [19:50] silvergold: I have experienced issues with choppiness but only momentarily and never on a frequent basis [19:51] Arch linux is painful to install. [19:51] Gosh it took hours [19:51] antiwire: yeah, what I'm experiencing is close to google earth being all out frozen. [19:51] cmk_zzz: but, its a good thing, after all [19:51] antiwire: oh, wait, you don't have any of the effects enabled do you? [19:51] you want a hard distro to install? try Crux, or worse Linux From Scratch [19:51] silvergold: Does it at least completely load up or are you seeing a situation where it seems like it is locked up? [19:51] even before it completely loads [19:51] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:52] silvergold: no kde4 effects enabled here [19:52] antiwire: It loads comepletely fine, but after I maximize the window, then it's horrible. If I just keep it as a smaller sized window, then it's fine. really weird. [19:52] silvergold: that sounds like a texture size issue [19:53] antiwire: Would that be something in kde4? I'm on fluxbox now, and it runs great no matter what size the window is, small window, maximized window, heck even full screen works great. [19:53] silvergold: what resolution are you running when it gets wierd when maximized? [19:54] The monitor's resolution is always at 1680x1050. [19:54] It just gets unbelievably slow when it's maximized, very unresponsive, I end up killing it. [19:55] silvergold: have you tried to go into GE and into Tools > Options > 3D view tab: try 16bit instead of 32bit color and disable anisotropic. then try to crank down the texture detail to about 20% of the full slider [19:55] bump it down a little, even if the monitor is capable of doing 1680x1050 the graphics card might not be able to keep up [19:55] Nick change: slackbare -> SlAcKbArE [19:55] 20/25% [19:55] does anyone know, how to enable icon zooming when mouse goes over it in an app panel in KDE? i've searched on net, on some pages it says that i need some change in a kickerrc file but there is no change.. [19:55] antiwire: yeah, tried that, 16 bit, texture detail lower, turned off atmosphere, etc. [19:55] that sounds like a driver bug or a software conflict then [19:56] why would it work great in fluxbox then? [19:56] try disabling kde4 effects and test that way [19:56] kde 3.5.0.10 [19:56] yeah, I'll have to give that a try. thanks. [19:56] pupit: s/3.5.0.10/3.5.10/ ;) [19:56] 3.5.10 sorry [19:56] yup silvergold [19:56] :P [19:57] brb just synced with -current [19:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [19:57] I'll brb too, gonna try disabling kde effects. :P [19:57] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [19:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] I'll be here! [19:59] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjdlkja@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [19:59] looks like it's you and me, BP{k} [19:59] booting up my main desktop after like two weeks of non use [20:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:00] amazon10x: at least I don't have to share my beer. [20:00] http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/panel.html chapter 5.5 i've found it. it was removed. :( [20:00] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [20:01] hi BP{k} [20:01] Wow, disabling kde4 effects made a huge difference. Google Earth works great now. [20:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:01] BP{k}: I have sinned. During this last camping trip someone brought watery american lager with "lite" in it's name and I shotgunned 3 of them. [20:01] please have mercy [20:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] lol [20:02] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:02] Should I use 256, 32k or 64k for my framebuffer? [20:02] will there be a performance hit or something? [20:02] antiwire: was that the only beer available? [20:02] yep [20:03] so it's not *that* sinful [20:03] yep. watery lager beats no beer at all. plus it reminds you the goodness of real beer. ;) [20:03] hehe [20:03] Is there an issue with using 64k color for the framebuffer? [20:04] quakelive: there could be but it depends on the specific driver and chipset [20:04] usus12jari (n=sardinem@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:04] antiwire: besides, I usually have a couple of normal lagers around for thirst quenching purposes. [20:05] BP{k}: yeah, I keep some skunky Mexican beer around for that [20:05] usus12jari (n=sardinem@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [20:05] but Corona isn't exactly crap beer anyway [20:05] it's decent [20:05] yeah corona is not bad :) [20:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [20:07] silvergold: are you using this version googleearth -> googleearth-linux-plus-4.3.7284.3916.bin [20:08] dtanner: 5.0.11733.9347 [20:08] brb [20:08] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.30.18) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:11] Why can't you go back in the slackware installer? [20:11] I can't go back to a previous dialogue. [20:12] quakelive: anything you can set in the installer can be changed later [20:12] spiderj (n=fds@aask184.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:12] either manually or by running pkgtool and choosing to rerun the setup scripts [20:13] back :) [20:13] ls [20:13] oops [20:13] antiwire: disabling the effects did wonders, it works great now in kde4 [20:14] silvergold: hmm, you might want to mention that to kde4 bug people [20:14] hi, i have a problem and i've done rtfm part [20:14] there's a guy at the book store with a walky talky connected via serial to usb to his netbook [20:15] i wonder what he's doing lol [20:15] silvergold: cool, that new version does not freeze up on me. I am now dl'n the "pro" version 5.* and see how it does verses the standard version 5.* [20:15] he's talking into the walky talky now lol [20:15] what a weirdo [20:15] trying to sniff my connections [20:15] you're in a bookshop with wireless internet? [20:15] dtanner: does the pro version have a free trial or have you paid for it? [20:15] free [20:15] yea quakelive [20:15] why [20:16] came to watch my girlfriend study lol [20:16] jeev: tunnel out you freak. I never use wifi hotspots without ssh tunnels [20:16] i am you turdish fatso [20:16] antiwire: yeah, that's probably a good idea, it shouldn't really act that way. I didn't, by any means, have a ton of effects going, just the default ones when you enable + wobbly windows. [20:16] on openvpn [20:16] people steal passwords on open WAPs [20:17] I know someone who has. [20:17] oh [20:17] i do it all th etime. [20:17] wireshark [20:17] it's not like it's difficult [20:17] i got my antenna in my bag lol [20:17] dtanner: cool, let me know how it goes. :) [20:17] Also WEP WAPS are as good as open WAps [20:17] i have problem with GRUB legacy [20:17] Why does slackware use LILO [20:17] ? [20:17] wtf [20:17] spiderj: how did you install grub? [20:18] quakelive: grub is on the official media in extra.... [20:18] dual boot from other distro [20:18] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:18] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "RAH" [20:19] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [20:19] Slackware logo symbolizes old people using linux [20:19] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dobbslack1.jpg [20:19] y0 gar0t0 [20:19] i am an old people, i am damn near 50 [20:19] quakelive: not the logo. and you fail. [20:19] quakelive: That's not the Slackware logo. [20:19] i'm the reason why slackware took off! [20:20] RipVanWinkle, you are feeling like senile already? [20:20] i got tupac to subliminally shout it out in Hit Em up [20:20] has anyone here gotten new feet for their logitech mouse? [20:20] silvergold: they are exactly the same binary installer. so iguess we get the pro whether we like it or not. =) [20:20] quakelive: if you want a distro the represents a hyperactive child that wont sit down and shutup long enough to learn anything there is ubuntu [20:20] sloinn (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [20:20] RipVanWinkle, watch your mouth [20:21] dont mention ubunti crap in here! [20:21] dtanner: I suppose the key they send you just unlocks the other features. [20:21] silvergold: hey man!! fine? [20:21] jeev right [20:21] gar0t0: oh yeah, doing excellent here man, yourself? [20:22] ubunti, may as well use windows me [20:22] silvergold: excellent too!! Brazil wins USA on Confederations Cup :D [20:22] gar0t0: cool. :) [20:22] so... [20:23] silvergold: BR 3x2 USA [20:23] ;d [20:23] Slackware is most well known for its use in enterprise environments, where Fortune 500 clients demand the stability, reliability, and support of a corporation that only Slackware provides. Slackware provides an extensive certification program for software and hardware known as "Built for Slack", as well as a Slackware Certified Engineer program. While hobbyist OSes such as Red Hat, SUSE, Solaris, and AIX have made inroads in [20:24] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] too damm right. [20:24] there is a slackware certified engineer program? [20:24] yeah [20:24] where's that quote from? [20:24] oh, crazy.. i assume i have an honorary certificate [20:24] www.justfuckinggoogleit.com [20:25] oh, the last sentence makes me think uncyclopedia [20:25] amazon10x: most likely uncyclopedia. [20:25] gahh, the troll is still here? [20:25] oh boy [20:25] Slackware is a new Linux distribution targeted at Old people. [20:25] Urchlay: yup. :) [20:25] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Slackware [20:25] i think that would be funnier if s/slackware/gentoo/g [20:25] In addition to its use in the enterprise, Slackware is also quite popular among new Linux users. Its popularity among new users due to Slackware's long-standing reputation (rivaled only by Gentoo) as being an easy-to-use operating system for the beginner. Finally, Slackware is also popular among users of the GNOME desktop, due to praise of Slackware's exceptional GNOME desktop, a rarity in a world of distributions such as Ub [20:25] some websites just shouldn't be [20:26] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:26] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:26] juice: agreed. [20:26] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [20:26] quakelive: if we want to read it, we can. No need to quote every blood part of it. [20:27] ok [20:27] no shit [20:27] as funny as that article is, last thing i want to do is read it via lousy cut&paste on irc [20:27] Ah, chopp [20:27] Action: silvergold runs [20:27] :P [20:27] ananke: no doubt. [20:27] silvergold: you can run, but you can't hide :P [20:28] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] chopp: :) [20:28] chopp: Ah, I think I'll outrun ya, you'll never find me. :P [20:28] Action: silvergold hopes into a rabbit hole. [20:28] hops even [20:29] hmm it looks like my installer has stopped on bind [20:29] silvergold: tell Alice i said hi [20:30] RipVanWinkle: will do. ;) [20:30] is it normal to take forever to install bind? [20:30] sz^ (n=sz@a91-152-184-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [20:30] silvergold: perrrfect../me hooks a hose to the closest hydrant [20:31] whoa, wait, what, hey, what's going on, is it raining? [20:31] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] quakelive: on -current? [20:37] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@200.52.177.216) joined ##slackware. [20:37] What's -current? [20:37] current version of slackware? [20:37] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-182-77.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] I'm a slack noob [20:37] the latest stable slackware is 12.2 [20:38] I like that uncyclopedia Slacwkare article [20:38] yep [20:38] installing that [20:38] bind took forever [20:38] err slackware* [20:38] -current is the development branch (so to speak) of slackware, what will become the next stable release. [20:38] im running slackware64-current on 2 systems [20:38] so i started pressing enter [20:38] + my virtualbox hehe [20:38] when it was on bind [20:38] does that mean it skipped the package [20:38] if I pressed ener [20:38] enter [20:39] I pressed a few keys and enter a few times when it was stuck on bind [20:39] do a full install and save us all some grief [20:39] I am [20:39] well what is the problem ? [20:39] It took forever [20:39] so fsckin what [20:39] I pressed enter [20:39] would enter make a package skip? [20:40] that i slike asking me why the sky is blue. i have no idea where and what you pressed "Enter" on [20:40] when it was on bind [20:40] Installing package bind [20:40] that is doubtful, but while the install is in progress, you still shouldn't make it a practice of randomly pressing keys because you think something is taking to long. [20:40] bind should not take *that* long [20:41] wasn't there something in -current with bind stallnig ? [20:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:42] i have had packages seemingly take longer than they should on a fresh install before. ends up a had a corrupt iso that only affected certain packs. [20:42] http://slackblogs.blogspot.com/2009/05/fixing-bind-on-installation.html [20:43] BP{k}: have you ever used the weather script with irssi? I was just trying it and it works to an extent, but, for example, when I use /forecast, it shows the headings Temp:, Wind:, etc. but no info for them. [20:43] wouldn't it be cool if slackpkg would download packages while it's installing packages [20:43] n/bind-9.4.3_P2-i486-2.txz: Use /dev/urandom to stop blocking on install. [20:43] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:43] juice: he is installing 12.2 [20:43] was answering BP{k} question [20:44] silvergold: nah, I tend to use CurseTheWeather. [20:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] juice: i see [20:44] BP{k}: Hmm, CurseTheWeather. /me googles. [20:44] silvergold: SBo ;) [20:44] BP{k}: that looks great, thanks. I had never heard of that. [20:45] this is interesting...almost funny http://www.continuitycentral.com/feature0267.htm [20:45] 31.5 seconds of downtime per year [20:46] antiwire: this is why most IT contracts specify "scheduled downtime" [20:46] yep [20:47] I don't know of any SLAs that operated based on 6 nines [20:47] that would be one intense facility [20:47] hmm I forgot what our contract specified for the SAP/solaris cluster I managed ...I think it was 97% scheduled uptime. [20:47] So if bind hanged on install, does that mean it's corrupted? [20:47] possibly. [20:47] BP{k}: that seems a little low [20:47] how would I fix it? [20:47] amazon10x: it's a while .. it probably was higher [20:48] that allows for about 10 days of downtime a year [20:48] my vps provider gives like 99.5%, but of course fails to deliver that [20:48] haha [20:48] amazon10x: yes quite possible it was 99 or higher [20:50] How do I start KDE [20:50] startx? [20:50] quakelive: slackbook.org [20:50] linode TOS item 5 says 99.9% with 0.1% /mo [20:52] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:52] 6 nines? that's impossible. [20:55] kloq (n=a@e179152016.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:55] quakelive: There was a glitch that caused bind to hang on install, I think this has been fixed in -current. But no it is not corrupt. [20:55] i dont offer any SLA [20:56] last time my shit was down for a while too [20:56] sucks :/ [20:56] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] how do I install the nvidia driver [20:58] ananke: That's why I mentioned how I thought it was funny [20:58] quakelive: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us [20:58] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [21:04] I want to set my resolution to 1280x1024 but KDE won't let me [21:04] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] how do I do so [21:04] heh billy mays [21:04] they say a suitcase hit his head on a landing [21:04] and that's why he died or some thing next morning [21:04] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:04] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] he overdosed on oxyclean [21:05] greetings and salutations [21:05] greetings andarius. How are you? [21:05] salutations silvergold. I am well. you ? [21:05] this is not exactly work safe but it is funny http://hogrockcafe.com/best_condom_commercial.htm [21:05] andarius: excellent, thanks. :) [21:06] v4nelle (n=van@adsl12-214.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:06] antiwire: haha...that's hillarious. [21:06] lol [21:07] andarius: hahaha [21:07] whoops, antiwire [21:07] :P [21:07] tab complete +1 ? [21:07] haha [21:07] an the same, d before t, I fail. [21:08] andarius: you're nick was first on tab completion and I didn't pay attention. :P [21:09] no worries. it happens to most [21:09] :) [21:10] Nick change: amazon10x -> aaaaa [21:10] bwuahaha, i shall win all tab completes now [21:11] aaaaa: darn [21:11] aaaaa: nope, you come in second here on tab completion, andarius is still first. [21:11] hax [21:11] quakelive (n=adsf@c122-106-220-69.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left ##slackware. [21:12] fsck its hot - 100 F even @ 20:20 [21:12] wow [21:12] wth [21:12] where do you live [21:12] Texas blows [21:12] Nick change: aaaaa -> amazon10x [21:12] im outta here very soon [21:12] where you going [21:12] prolly Virginia [21:12] gregday (n=gregday@25511435.ecsis.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] Does iptables support logging to a local facility? [21:12] are you bringing a lover with you? [21:12] hell yes it does [21:12] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Connection timed out [21:13] it's for lovers your know [21:13] amazon10x: of course [21:13] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] all I can find is support for logging to the set of normal built-in facilities, it doesn't seem to understand "--log-level local5" [21:13] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:15] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] gregday: ulogd [21:15] exlt (n=awake@12.am) joined ##slackware. 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[21:18] put that in your pipe and smoke it :P [21:18] XGizzmo_: indeed :) [21:18] :) [21:19] spiderj (n=fds@aask184.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:22] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:22] Imagery Date: 2003 [ a little behind on google-earth data ya think? ] [21:22] snownews [21:22] dtanner: wow, that's a tad behind. [21:23] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:23] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:23] v4nelle (n=van@adsl12-214.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:24] man i hope this -current sync up doesn't break anything. i've got to finish this project tonight [21:24] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] alright, just finished. here goes the reboot [21:25] *boom* [21:25] reboot ? [21:25] must be a kernel update [21:25] yeah, there was a new kernel in there [21:26] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-23-49.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:26] this heat is INSANE. i can only imagine what july and august are going to be like. [21:27] v4nelle (n=van@adsl12-214.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [21:27] gah, it goofed my resolution [21:28] fsckroot (n=beau@C-59-100-67-1.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:30] luckily a cooler front moved in here today, yesterday it was 100f - today 85f [21:30] same here [21:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] twolf, next week looks like the 80's [21:31] nice [21:31] unlike the past 2 been mid to upper 90's [21:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] slacknode (n=slacknod@32.145.75.145) joined ##slackware. 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[21:37] fsckroot (n=beau@C-59-100-67-1.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:37] oh wow. X -configure just killed my machien [21:38] the terminator [21:39] It was about 104 here in the California Sierra foothills. [21:39] A scorcher for sure. [21:40] skinet-X [21:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:42] xflavio (n=xflavio@189.97.33.138) joined ##slackware. [21:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:21] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.39.138) left irc: "Leaving" [22:24] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:26] haha, since the EU has put microsoft through the ringer in anti-trust litigation, microsoft is going to charge eu customers more for each copy of windows 7, that will probably do two things, 1. more people will look for alternatives = bsd/linux, and 2. microsoft might get sued again by the EU [22:27] You're still going on about Microsoft... [22:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-21-18.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [22:30] look at the technology section in google news [22:31] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-18.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:33] when i do stuff in vim it is auto indenting. i tried :set noautoindent but it still does it [22:33] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.67.54) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:34] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.170.178) joined ##slackware. [22:35] eddief (n=eddie@pool-162-83-145-248.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] Nick change: ClaudioMoesTavrn -> ClaudioM [22:38] grargh [22:39] maybe we don't wanna look at the technology section in google news [22:39] maybe we don't give a crap [22:39] amazon10x: the only way I've found to take complete control of vim is to zap the global vimrc [22:39] maybe Urchlay is right on the money [22:40] i just got it with :set indentexpr= [22:40] cd /usr/share/vim ; sudo mv vimrc vimrc.old ; sudo touch vimrc [22:40] (the last command is just so upgradepkg won't install a new vimrc when you upgrade vim) [22:41] sudo [22:41] antiwire: in other news, we played a pretty decent show last night :) [22:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:42] nice! [22:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] got a paying gig booked in about 3 weeks, but it's in bloody Alabama (a good chunk of the money goes into the gas tank) [22:44] do they ever sing Sweet Home Alabama in Alabama? [22:44] good question [22:44] obviously you can't now that you called it bloody [22:45] eddief (n=eddie@pool-162-83-145-248.ny5030.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:45] maybe we'll sing it & change the lyrics so it's "sweet home georgia" [22:45] Action: andarius likes GA more any way :) [22:45] yeah, that should go well downn with the audience [22:46] ever seen the Blues Brothers movie? I envision our Alabama show something like their first gig [22:46] cool:) [22:46] "What kind of music do you have here?" ..."Oh, we have both kinds, country *and* western" [22:48] supposedly in a couple days there will be footage from yesterday, on youtube [22:50] eddief (n=eddie@pool-162-83-145-248.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] make sure to let us know. I'll just search for: alamaba goes up in flames and I'm sure I'll find it [22:51] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [22:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:52] I never should have upgraded from firefox 2 [22:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] fucking 3 has crashed more times in the past 2 weeks than 2.x did in a couple of years [22:52] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:4c4:67a:36d6:86e2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:55] Urchlay: I'm tending now to use Opera 9.64 more often, seems to be a bit more stable than FF3 [22:55] <|Slacker|> I've been using opera for a while too, seems better than ff [22:56] the only thing that ever makes ff3 seems to be flash. My flash plugin is the 64-bit native one, maybe I should switch back to nspluginwrapper + 32bit plugin (it was slower but didn't *crash* at least) [22:56] er, ever makes ff3 crash.. [22:56] Urchlay, ff and flash are a DISASTER on linux [22:56] well I think it's just "flash is a disaster on linux" [22:57] i remember this time last year, i didn't even bother trying it was so bad [22:57] i just aliased youtube to "CLOSE ALL WINDOWS IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT SAVE." [22:58] youtube actually works just fine for me [22:58] non-youtube videos are the crasher [22:58] (this one's on myspace) [22:58] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-18.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:59] I wish they'd fookin put the URL to the flv in the HTML page, I'd just download the damn thing and watch it with mplayer or something [22:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [23:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] instead it uses a script with 64 kilobytes of javascript code with no spaces or newlines (whole thing's one line) [23:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:01] shonudo (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "brb" [23:03] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-16.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:03] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Billy Mays died [23:05] http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_tv_pitchman_billy_mays_found_dead_in_florida_home.html [23:06] I might be sadder if I could remember who that is... [23:06] wng- (n=jackson@216.211.244.212) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:06] wng-_ (n=jackson@dhcp-0-22-6b-5e-d0-75.cpe.norwoodlight.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Orange Glo, OxiClean, etc. [23:07] oh, so-called "infomercials" [23:07] I have never once watched one [23:08] (seriously, I'd be more entertained watching paint dry than something like that) [23:08] OxyClean and Might Putty are his most well-known pitches. [23:09] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:09] the mighty putty spots were awesome [23:09] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Slap Chop is funny. Vince does that (Sham-Wow guy). [23:10] "You're gonna love my nuts." [23:10] haha [23:10] I was at my parent's house when I saw that [23:10] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-223-89.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] my mom was busting up [23:11] init[1] (n=init[1]@116.68.96.125) joined ##slackware. [23:11] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest80076 [23:11] Guest80076 (n=init[1]@116.68.96.125) left irc: Client Quit [23:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:14] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:15] Motoko-chan, look for rapchop on youtube. [23:16] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-223-89.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.3.1" [23:22] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [23:22] hi everybody;) [23:23] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-155-239.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:24] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-148-69.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. 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[23:42] Death of a Salesman [23:42] hi willy [23:43] hi loman [23:52] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] antiwire: ping [23:55] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [23:55] antiwire: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F38E60018FF9772B and http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3479C286FB1FF6B4 Very cool shit man! [23:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-156-251.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:56] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [23:58] eddief (n=eddie@pool-162-83-145-248.ny5030.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] --- Mon Jun 29 2009