[00:00] Oh, that's not good. [00:00] hitest: you can do usb passthrough with qemu [00:00] Action: jescis pokes spook with a resister ;) [00:00] yeah, had to do a hard re-boot [00:00] jescis: ? [00:00] Action: firebird619 hands spook a puzzle to put together to take away the boredom. :P [00:00] yeah on qemu on my main box it is loading fine so far [00:00] firebird619: no thanks [00:00] hitest: good to hear. [00:01] i've used fdisk to format my flash drive (4GB in size with only one FAT16 partition). after using 'd' to delete and 'n' to create a new partition (now NTFS), and remount. but the old data is still there!! dont know why it does not remove all the data. [00:01] too much thinking involved [00:01] spook: haha, ok. :P [00:01] lol [00:01] spook, don't worry it isn't part of a circuit ^^ [00:01] Thursap: did you use w or q? [00:02] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) joined ##slackware. [00:03] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.15.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:03] Action: jescis prefers cfdisk >.> [00:03] Action: spook uses the right tool for the job. [00:04] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:04] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:04] spook: of course i did [00:04] cfdisk is a good partitioning app -.- [00:05] agreed [00:05] Thursap: that didnt answer my question. [00:05] Thursap: you still have to format any partitions you create [00:06] yep [00:07] I also like visicalc ^^ [00:08] spook: 'w' [00:10] velu (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [00:10] mmlj4: how to do that? i thought 'n' formats the partition, is that wrong? [00:11] cfdisk [00:11] Thursap: thaat just arranges the partition table [00:12] it does nothing to the data portion of the disk. [00:12] you need to mkfs.ext3 /dev/[hs]d[a-j][1-9] [00:13] spook: so fdisk never deletes the data? [00:15] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Thursap: it does nothing to the data at all. [00:17] it only changes the imaginary lines drawn by the partition table [00:20] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [00:21] FDISK will do what u tell it. deletee is one function i think [00:23] dyn0myt3: ... [00:25] spook: ok, thanks. so i guess i need 2 tools fdisk and mkfs to do this 'format' thing. [00:25] Thursap: no, fdisk doesn' [00:25] Thursap: no, fdisk doesn't format, as far as I know [00:26] Thursap: you have to use the mkfs command afterwards [00:27] i'm sorry, did i not say that at least 10 minutes ago? [00:27] mkfs.etx2 and suchlike are shortcuts to telling mkfs what filesystem type you want via flags [00:27] mmlj4: now i know. thx [00:27] spook: didn't see [00:27] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.115.64) left irc: "leaving" [00:27] spook: he addressed me, so I answered, without reading the scroll [00:29] Nick change: nheco -> nheco___ [00:29] Nick change: nheco___ -> _nheco [00:30] Ok.. who was asking about the possibility of updating from slamd64 to slackware64? [00:33] wooohoo. I didn't even know there was a slackware64. Good stuff [00:34] Dominian: is that even possible? [00:34] slidercrank (n=tehnik@pi.cbx.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:34] spook: yep [00:34] spook: did it today .. while I was at work.. remotely via ssh at that [00:35] ran into a few things which I think were my own fault, but luckily I had a slamd64 chroot handy I could symlink to for commands hehe [00:35] heh [00:36] biggest thing was that gzip, tar, pkgtools didn't get updated for some reason during the process [00:36] where can I get the latest version of transmission? There is only v1.52 available at slackbuilds.org [00:36] so of course make sure to upgradepkg pkgtools.. then tar, then gzip, then make sure you have xz package installed.. then upgradepkg --install-new and should be good to go [00:36] slidercrank: check the link for the projects' page and check there [00:37] Dominian, Slackware packages are not provided there [00:37] slidercrank: ... [00:38] spook, what? [00:38] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:39] get new version,edit slackbuild.build the pkg [00:39] Rat409__: ++ [00:41] cmk_zzz_ (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [00:41] _nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [00:42] slidercrank: read the link to the project's page that SBo provides.. then go to the project's page in question and check for newer source there. [00:42] its not rocket science. [00:43] and if it works .. you might even consider poking the maintainer. [00:43] ++ :) [00:44] BP{k}: btw.. know anyone else with a "Slackware related" blog that needs to be added to this: http://planet.slackadelic.com/ [00:44] Dominian: ther's a couple of links on the blogroll on my blog. 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[00:55] suidbin [00:55] or special [00:55] it's for root privileged i think [00:57] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] system binaries [00:57] ah, then where can I get cfdisk in source format? [00:57] officergris (n=officerg@76.92.215.128) joined ##slackware. [00:58] its part of the util-linux package [00:58] cfdisk site, or a slackware mirror's source tree [00:59] http://www.gnu.org/software/fdisk/ [00:59] http://tinyurl.com/p89bo7 [00:59] just add project after linux searchterm in google [00:59] Rat409__: fdisk != cfdisk [01:00] true [01:00] but rad the page i linked [01:00] read [01:00] sorry i misread fail!! [01:00] saujiro (n=saujir0@125.164.117.125) joined ##slackware. [01:00] util linux indeed [01:01] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-080-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] saujiro (n=saujir0@125.164.117.125) left ##slackware. [01:03] did find this tho on 2nd try ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng/v2.14/ util-linux-ng-2.14.2.tar.bz2 [01:04] dunno if its current version [01:05] Rat409__ (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [01:06] Rat409__, I just need the source to make my own version of visical using (n)curses. It needs not be current ;) [01:08] Rat409 (n=nobody@205.209.66.178) joined ##slackware. [01:09] damn net keeps hanging. dsl ah well better than dialup bleh [01:09] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.127) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [01:09] Rat409, I just need the source to make my own version of visical using (n)curses. It needs not be current ;) [01:10] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:10] cool [01:12] I think so ^_^ [01:12] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:47] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:51] Rat409 (n=nobody@205.209.66.178) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [01:52] hysterio (n=hysterio@222.68.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:54] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-164-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:55] i got one for you [01:55] Hey antiwire [01:57] yo [01:57] I'm on OpenSolaris right now. :P [01:57] nice! [01:57] oh great [01:57] firebird619 is here [01:57] i actually have a sun server but it had debian on it [01:57] had/has [01:57] antiwire, who's your cable co [01:57] charter [01:57] firebird619, do you have cable dsl or dial up [01:57] wow! [01:57] antiwire, traceroute google, what's your 10.x block [01:57] lol [01:57] debian is nice too, but it's no slackware. :P [01:57] jeev: cable [01:58] jeev: trust me, i know my block [01:58] no, what's the class B [01:58] gimme gimme [01:58] 10.106.x.x [01:59] what are you scheming on? [01:59] wtf [01:59] where do you live mofo [01:59] i know you're plottin' on me [01:59] wtf, you're plottin on ME! [01:59] lol [01:59] where do you live? LA ?1!! [01:59] -_- [01:59] tellll meeeeeeeee [01:59] I live nowhere. [02:00] pff [02:00] Ah, nowhere, I've been there before. :P [02:00] what are you up to jeev? [02:00] nothing [02:00] nothing legit [02:00] why? [02:01] Am I gonna see about you on the news? [02:01] :P [02:01] maybe [02:01] Oh man.... [02:01] Action: firebird619 walks away [02:01] :D [02:01] he's scheming on our class beez [02:02] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:06] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [02:07] omg yxz97 [02:07] lol [02:07] when's yzx100 coming? [02:08] err. yxz100 :P [02:08] Action: jeev flicks firebird619's forehead [02:08] I'm back! :P [02:08] hehe [02:08] Action: firebird619 flicks jeev's ear [02:08] Action: jeev has uber-elite (tm) ear anti-flick protection [02:08] yxz97: NO, please NO, say it isn't true. [02:08] :P [02:09] yes is TRUE [02:09] Oh, alright, I guess I'll just have to accept that. :P [02:09] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:11] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:14] brb gonna boot into slack. :) [02:14] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [02:16] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [02:19] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [02:20] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:20] Nick change: blackhat -> yht [02:22] last dance with marry jane :( [02:23] dont keep her waiting [02:23] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdTYcnUBADw [02:26] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a3c157ac5da1fa4) joined ##slackware. [02:26] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:27] Nick change: Yudha_HT -> Guest89316 [02:27] Nick change: yht -> Yudha_HT [02:29] zenlunatic (n=justin@c-68-49-196-217.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:30] could flow control cause packet loss [02:31] would you guys suggest turning on flow control or off [02:31] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.26.35) joined ##slackware. [02:32] if she's not a flowin, you're not doing it right. [02:32] heh [02:33] hey chopp [02:34] hey firechicken ;) [02:34] oh man, ouch. I just read an article that a guy's gf found out he was going to leave her and she got mad a blew off his private parts by attaching firecrackers there and lighting them. [02:34] chopp: How's it going? [02:35] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-080-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:35] ouch....I'm allright. [02:36] Guest89316 (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:36] that guy sure isn't. :P [02:36] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:38] a friend of mine's EX wife, dumped an ounce vile of beach sand in his bike tank. Then tried to skip town. [02:39] wow. [02:39] that's unacceptable behavior [02:40] with that firecracker story, she had brought up marriage and he refused saying he'd rather go back to his first wife. [02:40] it had been on there fireplace mantle, as they collected it on there honeymoon in hawaii [02:41] hey firebird619 :) [02:41] Hey Camarade_Tux. How are you? [02:41] firebird619, sleepy but ok :p [02:41] and you ? [02:42] doing good, thanks. :) [02:42] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [02:43] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.162) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:43] I hate pollens ! [02:44] http://www.flickr.com/photos/indy2kro/2407503682/in/photostream/ <--McDonald's sign. [02:44] that girl is crafty like ice is cold [02:44] Camarade_Tux: allergies? [02:44] that girlie was deft and she wanted to go [02:44] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:45] firebird619, yeah, it used to be ok (nothing) but in this new town, it just makes me quite ill [02:45] iirc, there's some plant that's especially bad for allergies here [02:45] yeah, I have several allergies as well, pollen included. [02:45] firebird619, lol @ the pic ;p [02:45] bbiab [02:46] a friend of mine (whose eee I have right now) has allergies to eggs, milk, fish... [02:47] i've found that salt water flushing helps the most [02:47] no joke [02:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:47] go get some sea salt from the store and mix about 1 table spoon with 16 ounces of warm water and sniff it into your nose [02:47] it sounds bad but it's so good [02:48] it doesn't sound bad, it sounds *terribly* bad ! [02:48] it soothes man [02:49] you don't need to snort the whole 16 ounces [02:49] I'm sure it helps because you can't feel anything after that ;p [02:49] lol :p [02:49] that's just to get the ratio right [02:49] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] gargle it too [02:50] seriously man [02:50] it rids the pollenz [02:50] but it's improving on itw own now, the worst part was during the beginning of the week [02:51] you're immune system is just getting used to it [02:51] that's good though [02:51] your* [02:52] it started when I came back from Paris where there is not that same bloddy type of pollen [02:52] sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [02:53] sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) left ##slackware ("..."). [02:58] how does netgear put [02:58] backpressure or some shit [02:58] and not document it [02:59] antiwire: you mean like those netti pot things? [03:00] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:00] i dunno what netti pot is but i just do full out sinus flushes when the allergies get back [03:00] I'll always find it amazing that an eee pc has more battery with the performance governor than with the ondemand one ;p [03:00] salt water flushes [03:00] (a tiny bit more, but still more ;) ) [03:01] back/bad [03:01] antiwire: yeah, that's what the netti pot is, it has a pour spout thing that you put into your nose and you tip your head to each side and the stuff runs into your sinuses and cleans them out. [03:02] i go all rock start style and just snort it [03:02] lol [03:02] haha [03:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:02] man i'm drunk [03:02] my uncle uses those salt water rinses and swears by them, says they work great. [03:02] yeah it's good [03:02] drunk? gosh, I couldn't tell. :P [03:02] like tewmten omg [03:02] lol [03:03] Take me drunk occipher, I'm home. :P [03:03] i'm too drive to drunk! [03:03] haha [03:03] gotta go, see you later :) [03:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [03:03] don't be late [03:04] you were too late. :) [03:04] i love it when people come over and need to use the "communal wifi" [03:04] my key is peic [03:04] epic* [03:05] i punish them all by making them type a 63bit case sensitive key in [03:05] and then when he woke up in the morning she was still in the bed, ahhh! [03:05] http://failblog.org/2009/05/26/parenting-fail-10/ <--- parenting fail. [03:05] antiwire: haha, nice. [03:05] it's just a child, who cares [03:05] ;) [03:05] but the parent should go to jail [03:05] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:05] that's a horrible thing to say jeev. [03:05] you should be ashamed of yourself. [03:06] Action: firebird619 kicks jeev [03:06] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:06] :> [03:06] firebird619, we're killing women and children in the mid east [03:06] isn't that something to be ashamed of? [03:07] whats this we shit [03:07] americans! [03:07] whoa hey now [03:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] hey now, you're an all star [03:14] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:15] lol, a blonde joke (a clean one) http://dsmcity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=476&Itemid=1 [03:16] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] greetings [03:17] lol [03:17] good one [03:18] The-Croupier: got that package built yet? [03:19] no not really [03:19] http://www.speedtest.net/result/483132961.png [03:19] Action: heret|c flexes [03:19] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:19] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [03:20] http://chopp.homelinux.com:8080/pub/meter.gif [03:20] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] :O [03:20] seriously though, thats insane [03:21] awesome gif XD [03:21] <___daniel> man [03:21] chopp: haha, nice [03:21] heret|c, i get 33mbit sometimes foo [03:21] suck that [03:21] and i only pay for hal [03:21] f [03:21] HAHAHA [03:21] <___daniel> i have no food, no money, no car... and i want to eat. [03:21] <___daniel> what do I do? help [03:21] daniel, get a job [03:21] pics or it never happened [03:21] <___daniel> i have no job [03:21] heret|c, i didnt save it [03:21] <___daniel> there are no jobs in US [03:21] dan, get a job [03:21] go on welfare [03:21] <___daniel> dude I live in US [03:22] ___daniel, stop paying for internet then [03:22] i do too [03:22] lol [03:22] <___daniel> i am already on welfare [03:22] <___daniel> my welfare pays my rent [03:22] ___daniel, sell your computer then go get a job [03:22] <___daniel> im not selling my computer [03:22] daniel, sell your penis for research [03:22] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [03:22] <___daniel> can I? [03:22] yes [03:22] sell your sperm [03:23] <___daniel> i cant [03:23] <___daniel> i dont have a degree [03:23] <___daniel> they wont pay you unless you have a degree [03:23] you don't need a degree to whip a batch up [03:23] lol [03:23] pud pulling degree? [03:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:24] how bout a darwin award? you seem qualified [03:25] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:27] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:28] http://www.darwinawards.com/rules/ [03:28] ivan8013 (n=ivan@190.148.84.2) joined ##slackware. [03:28] qneo (n=tricqste@206.19.210.7) joined ##slackware. [03:29] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:29] hey frullet [03:29] oh haiz [03:29] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:29] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [03:29] hai! [03:30] velu (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [03:30] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.148.84.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:31] anyone else use pcmanfm? If so, when you are in a folder with images, does it show thumbnails of the images? mine doesn't. [03:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa59oCWqqgE [03:32] the recorded take off [03:33] sweet [03:33] i got dinged? [03:34] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [03:34] good:) [03:34] how can i find the oldest file in my pc? [03:34] you firebird619 ? [03:34] nix_chix0r: doing good, thanks. :) [03:34] i would like to know if i have a file that is the oldest in / somewhere ... is it possible. [03:34] ohh and Greetings by the way [03:35] antiwire: have they taken the shuttle back to Florida yet? [03:35] i'm not sure yet [03:35] But I'm glad I got to hear it land. I was camping in the desert about 15 miles from edwards [03:36] awesome. [03:37] next time maybe you'll be close enough to see it land. :P [03:39] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:40] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:44] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] zlinux_ (n=zlinux@79.172.183.61) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:49] i wish [03:49] i want to see it launch [03:49] hey wtf [03:49] im still drunk [03:49] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:50] you were drinking beer while you were going to bed dude [03:50] yeah man [03:50] then i passed out and woke up drunk [03:50] i drank a few pints of white russian yesterday also [03:50] oh man.. [03:50] sometime in the next few hours i will be really hangover [03:51] how long did you sleep? [03:51] 6 hours [03:52] from like 5 to 9 [03:52] erh [03:52] 10 [03:52] Channel flood from tewmten -- kicking [03:52] so five hours [03:52] tewmten kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:53] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [03:53] but then i slept a bit also like between 9 and 2 last night [03:53] i think im good enough now [03:54] over the years i have learnt the tricks to keep a drunk buzz going for a few days [03:54] i know how to do this [03:54] im sort of what people would call; an alcoholic [03:54] i'm drunk [03:54] beat that [03:54] sweet dude [03:54] nah man im drunk also [03:54] fuck off [03:54] how drunk? [03:55] i'm drunk too [03:55] like i havent had a drink in five hours and i just woke up and i cant stand properly-drunk [03:55] but are you blonde? [03:55] i am blonde [03:55] why? [03:55] oh, i'm 3 jugs of beer drunk [03:55] drunk blonde jokes [03:55] 3 beers and a scotch drunk, drunk [03:55] not sure how i got home just now. [03:55] yeah i had like two beers last night [03:55] then before that i had like a liter of beer and three pints of white russian [03:56] yeah [03:56] jugs here are like, 1140ml [03:56] aparently the large paper cups on mcdonalds will get you three white russians on a 70cl vodka, 70cl kaluha and a liter of milk [03:56] are you in germany? [03:56] australia [03:56] hm [03:56] g'day mate! [03:56] hehehe [03:56] g'day [03:57] throw another shrimp on the barbie [03:57] i feel like a kebab [03:57] yeah man [03:57] today i defenitley need a döner [03:57] actually, i have icecream [03:57] yay [03:58] i have more beer [03:58] a few pints [03:58] hm new dosbox release, sweet [03:58] and around here pints are like 500 to 600 ml [03:58] :) [03:58] tewmten: i some how just got home from the uni tav [03:59] its cheaper to drink from a jug here [03:59] what time is it there? it must be something like 3 in the morning i guess [03:59] 4pm [03:59] ah [03:59] almost [03:59] :D [03:59] you need to work on your timezones [03:59] spook: a really cute girl gave you a ride home, but you were to drunk to realize it. :P [03:59] yeah okay [03:59] spook: i dont know which timezones australia belong to, thats the main problem :D [04:00] firebird619: that would explain why that box of condoms in my bag is empty [04:00] spook: haha [04:00] Samy1 (n=Kimmy@92.84.9.3) joined ##slackware. [04:00] tewmten: where i am its gmt+8 [04:00] spook: but do you have funny looking baloons in the room? [04:00] aight [04:00] and we voted no on DST [04:00] im in gmt+1 [04:00] for the 4th time in 30 years [04:00] we got dst [04:00] alisonken1noc: haha [04:01] we need it [04:01] its 10 in teh morning and you talk about getting drunk [04:01] since im in fairly north europe [04:01] its 10 in t he morning and i woke up drunk [04:01] dude [04:01] the city voted about 60% yes, the rest of the state voted 90% no [04:01] haha [04:01] any good program besides gimp that offers red eye removal? [04:01] xpaint! [04:01] heh [04:02] not inkscape [04:02] firebird619: whats wrong with gimp [04:02] spook: it just isn't removing the red eye well, it doesn't look right afterwards. [04:02] you're doing it wrong [04:03] and it starts f* dbus now, i hate that [04:03] spook: whoa, digikam works great for it. Sweet. [04:04] firebird619: i;m drunk, you seruiously think i'll offer helpful advice? [04:04] cteg: a lot of things use dbus nowadays [04:04] I don't get implementing DST in summer, the rotation of the earth already provides extra daylight hours then [04:04] it's to move the wakup time for drunks [04:04] zlinux (n=zlinux@79.172.157.131) left irc: Connection timed out [04:04] spook: no, not really, but I asked a question and you answered so.... :P [04:04] no, DST makes no sense. [04:04] yeah...i dont like that. 7 or more processes just for mouse and keyboard in xorg. [04:05] jet lag the whole state, wooo [04:05] when i saw that i was like ...blargh. running x without that crap now [04:06] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] http://www.waec.wa.gov.au/elections/live.php [04:07] take that DST people [04:08] vote: should i paint wh40k while drinmk? [04:10] no, you should throw them away [04:12] frullet: no. [04:12] *shuns* [04:12] frullet: says you [04:14] prodego (n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) left irc: [04:14] why throw them away when you can impress various amounts of woman with your wh40k skillz [04:16] exactly [04:20] Sammy1 (i=Argus18@92.84.9.3) joined ##slackware. [04:22] alienBOB: I've just realised.. unless i have missed it, which is possible, that you cant pass a conf file to mirror-slackware-current.sh as a cmd line param. Noticed because am trying to create a mirror of both arches and realised i have to modh the script or duplicate it [04:23] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:28] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:28] pacman871 (n=pacman87@bz.bzflag.bz) joined ##slackware. [04:28] pacman87_ (n=pacman87@bz.bzflag.bz) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:28] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [04:29] blaguvest (n=blaguves@c-28a072d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:31] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:31] Later everyone. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. Take care/ [04:32] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:32] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [04:34] Zordrak: check "mirror-slackware-current.sh -w" option to let the script create a .conf file (use "-h" to get a help screen if needed). [04:35] Zordrak: no need to create two copies of the script! Just make a symlink to the script like "ln -s mirror-slackware-current.sh foobar.sh" and then run "foobar.sh -w" to create the configurationfile "foobar.conf" [04:36] Then, edit "foobar.conf" so that it works on the slackware64-current tree and schedule foobar.sh in your crontab next to mirror-slackware-current.sh [04:37] i use my own rsync script :) spooksoftware.com/slackware/update.sh [04:38] yeah.. thats effectively what im doing... just a bit of feedback that ideally id allow the script to exist on its lonesome, but passing a "-c foo.conf" in crontab to call different activity [04:40] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [04:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [04:43] last python update broke pysolfc for me, anyone else with problems? was using the slackbuild from slackbuilds [04:45] what version of python was pysolfc written for (2.4, 2.5, ...) and what options in python are required for pysolfc? [04:45] I edit the runlevel to 4 it was 3. when I rebooted it stopped saying no kdm or gdm installed. [04:45] any ideas to fix this? I am still in learning phase [04:45] thanks [04:46] uuuhhh [04:46] erm...bad timing with my question. i have everything about that at home [04:46] install kdm? [04:47] How to install kdm? [04:53] install kde [04:53] did you install the X package series? [04:53] and the kde series? [04:54] kdm is in kdebase [04:54] and given your obvious isuues with english.. the kdei series? [04:54] you probally need kdelibs but thats it [04:55] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [04:56] spook: i get the feeling hde's not going for a kdm/non-kde install [04:56] Guest47425 (n=eddie@pool-162-83-144-194.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:00] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:01] mornin [06:03] or is the default now smp in 64 so that theres no "-smp" variant [06:03] Action: Zordrak throws caution to the wind and selects ext4 [06:05] Action: slava_dp just checked and it appears the default huge.s is CONFIG_X86_SMP=y :-) [06:05] WOOOOO! [06:05] i *never* used the non-smps [06:05] they just cluttered up the place [06:06] actually i never used non-smps too. don't have any machine less than a ppro now. [06:08] i think if i were ever using a maghine that needed a non-smp id be running a SERIOUSLY customised kernel anyway [06:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) joined ##slackware. [06:08] Yeah same Zordrak [06:09] gah . should really tidy up the house :/ [06:10] Bugz (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-16.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:10] screw that... theres slackbuilds to make and kernels to compile! [06:10] episode of mythbusters - tidy - build custom kernel for my laptop - sounds like a plan :P [06:10] Zordrak: theres slackbuilds for it :o [06:10] no.,.. make one :) [06:10] ah :p [06:10] you start with a `make clean` :D [06:11] haha [06:12] there's a slackbuild to make a kernel package though. [06:12] Nick change: Yudha_HT -> yht|pulang [06:13] I haven't compiled a kernel in years [06:13] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:14] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "sleeping" [06:14] i'm just to lazy to compile kernels. i create an initrd and use the generic one usually (so that it eats less memory). [06:15] Ive never really had a need to [06:15] i used to do it for my home machine when i was still a student, not so long ago. always had the latest optimized kernel. [06:16] Im doing one for my laptop as the things so damn slow [06:16] an optimized kernel can give quite a boost you know [06:17] Yeah thats what I want for my laptop - I need to be able to switch it on and not wait for ages - my desktop tho's powerful and I never need to turn it on quickly so im not fussed about this machine [06:17] DeeeeP_ (i=1003@bl8-150-191.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:17] i truly and honestly ONLY run custom kernels [06:17] and NEVER with an initrd [06:17] Samy1 (i=samyw@92.82.84.129) joined ##slackware. [06:17] Zordrak: can I pm you? [06:18] well i use the generic kernel + initrd on my laptop and i never halt the system, always suspend to disk. [06:18] DeeeeP_ (i=1003@bl8-67-252.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:18] it resumes quite fast. [06:18] compl3x: sure [06:20] Argus (n=Kimmy@92.82.84.129) joined ##slackware. [06:24] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. 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[07:42] not much at all, being harrased by the missus as usual [07:42] frullet: haha [07:43] Zordrak: the cpu is an AMD Turion [07:46] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:47] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [07:49] compl3x: yes [07:49] Good Morning [07:50] i use the hostname of the bok instead as i have a custom kernel for each one [07:50] Zordrak: So Im assuming its the K8 series [07:51] K8L based so id assume so [07:51] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:52] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:52] Zordrak: tis building, tea time. [07:52] *nod* [07:52] greetings ;) [07:52] hows it going today guys? [07:53] sluggish [07:53] quite quickly actually [07:53] Action: The-Croupier hates windows...so frustrating....cannot even do a simple repair without having errors on something [07:53] been waiting to go out to get some more fresh ground french roast [07:54] now that you mention it.. havent eaten today.. got lost in the repair... [07:54] me either [07:54] gonna do that too [07:55] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:56] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.44.92) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:56] steppenwolfii (n=greymaus@86-46-210-130-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [07:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.32.54) joined ##slackware. [07:57] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:00] _ohm (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:02] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:04] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-64-82.ip37.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:10] can someone help me [08:10] ? [08:10] still cant get slack to boot properly [08:10] If you ask a question concerning what you need help with, perhaps [08:10] lol :P [08:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] so where is the question? [08:13] Action: The-Croupier hides [08:16] so he still didnt make the question did he? :( [08:18] /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off [08:18] thats what i get at booik [08:18] boot* [08:18] bk [08:18] although i did run mkinitrd with no args [08:18] sorry [08:18] my housemates router is retarded [08:19] I get "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" when i try to boot slack [08:19] and it mentions a lack of kernel modules [08:19] as soon as i try and go past it i get a kernel panic [08:20] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a3c157ac5da1fa4) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [08:20] any ideas? [08:21] Zordrak: ping? [08:24] Jhodas: you have obviously left out needed modules in your initrd [08:24] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:24] kk. [08:25] googling now, any idea where i can find out which modules i need? [08:25] Jhodas: which kernel are you using? [08:26] huge smp [08:26] 2.6.27.7 [08:26] you dont need an initrd.. [08:26] oh ok [08:26] should i switch it to the generic then? [08:26] <---noob [08:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:27] what ever floats your boat [08:27] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.28) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [08:29] kk, gona try that [08:29] brb [08:29] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:29] i need to ask a question to those who would know: if i wanted to run an internal 4-8gb card or some sort of solid state to run my root partition from (full slackware install) so that i could expand my LUKS+LVM2 to the size of the entire hard drive, what would be the best method? so far bootable USB stick has no love of my machine, i have an internal sony memory stick pro reader (but limited to 4GB) and an express card slot (has a reader [08:29] but only SD/xD/MMC and limited to 4GB i think) [08:29] dependable and reliable but fast is the goal [08:31] use both? /usr on one, and / on the other? [08:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] well what i mean is i have an express card slot, i could get an expresscard SSD (but then i wouldn't have my expresscard card reader, just the drive) [08:33] the built in memorystick pro reader doesn't have much speed in Linux yet due to driver / hardware issues [08:33] hrrm [08:34] yeah i'm thinking this time i really can't do anything about this :S [08:35] er 8-S [08:35] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:35] compl3x: pong [08:35] also, now i have an 8gb sd hc card that i can't take back (threw away the packing) so i'll try to sell it for cheap [08:36] Zordrak: don't worry now sorry -solved it [= [08:36] kk [08:36] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [08:36] Action: Zordrak is out to lunch/coffee buying spree [08:38] Action: TwinReverb is having a dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/random/usb/sticks spree [08:38] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:39] good morning ! [08:39] ^^ [08:39] Action: compl3x is also on a spree - foood [08:39] bk. its still asking for modules. Think I'll give up for today [08:40] Action: TwinReverb joins compl3x on his food spree [08:40] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:40] Action: Camarade_Tux would like to join TwinReverb and compl3x on the food spree but has almost nothing to eat here ='( [08:40] Action: TwinReverb dcc's Camarade_Tux some Ruffles potato chips [08:41] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [08:41] Action: Camarade_Tux cat ~/ruffle_potato_chips > /dev/stomach ! \o/ [08:41] sh: /dev/stomach: Permission denied [08:42] 8-( [08:42] that term was root :) [08:42] TwinReverb: how about using a CF or SD --> IDE adapter internally? [08:42] SpacePlod, replace hard drive? [08:42] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:43] SpacePlod: laptop, i think [08:43] Yeah...boot from CF (or SD) attached to an IDE or SATA port for / [08:43] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.148.84.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:43] oh...lappy? didn't see that. [08:44] that's what happens when you 'screen' into a conversation late. [08:44] The good thing about CF is it speaks ATA [08:44] SD doesnt [08:44] straterra: i thought that was just for pio modes? [08:45] AFAIK, SD needs an intermediary controller to do the command conversion [08:45] nope...you're right. [08:45] CF doesnt [08:45] CF is just a pin conversion, sd is not. [08:45] Right [08:46] SpacePlod, laptop. not your fault. it's also not a storage issue (i.e. running out of space), just a "want to be james bond" thing, how i could technically pull the SSD card hard drive and run, leaving them no way to boot [08:46] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:47] or just throw it in a fire [08:48] ah. got it. [08:48] carry a shotgun? [08:48] can't do that in an airport [08:48] Or you can use encryption that relies on that machine's specific hardware, in the form of the TPM chip, the motherboard's serial number, usb device... [08:49] On and on [08:49] i don't have a TPM chip, the USB chip thing is dangerous if you move around with the laptop (think broken hardware), the motherboard serial number isn't visible and i can't get it, etc [08:52] It's not dangerous [08:52] you need it to boot..and thats it [08:52] You don't need the serial number to be visible [08:52] The encryption would be set to use a combination of things [08:52] Like serial number + usb device + passphrase [08:53] when stratux live comes back, maybe :P [08:53] The serial number is easily obtainable through DMI [08:54] dmidecode has it, I think [08:54] That's what I said :P [08:54] yeah...I read "WMI" [08:56] Camarade_Tux: howd the kernel go? [08:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:56] mmmmmmmmmm french roast coffee.. ground 10 minutes ago [08:59] compl3x, I only configuring parts of it and right now, I don't have the eee anymore [08:59] but I should get it again in the next days :) [08:59] Camarade_Tux: aww it got sent home ]= :p [09:00] I'll maybe get it again this week-end because the friend who owns it doesn't have access to the internet anymore :D [09:00] v4nelle (n=van@adsl91-196.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:03] bojevnik (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Herman (n=Hermann@81.170.156.174) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:04] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:04] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [09:04] actually it's even planned that I configure that kernel on tomorrow :) [09:05] Lorn (i=lorn@unaffiliated/lorn) joined ##slackware. [09:06] does anyone use slackware on dell vostro 1510 ? [09:06] i compiled inte graphics, and after i close X the machine frozen [09:06] intel [09:06] ops s/after/before [09:07] my video board is intem GM965 [09:07] intel(!!) [09:07] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:08] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:09] kamaji (n=kamaji@137.222.233.63) joined ##slackware. [09:09] guys the slackwiki old hasn't the old articles.......anybody know something? [09:10] it had a problem iirc [09:10] archive.org should help [09:10] ok.thx [09:12] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:12] nothing on archive about slackiwiki [09:12] slackwiki* [09:13] http://web.archive.org/web/20080213002736rn_1/slackwiki.org/Main_Page [09:13] I had troubles getting it myself, it seems only the upper search box will return something [09:13] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:13] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-7e134c7c55fa1aa9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:14] thx again,man :) [09:15] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Action: compl3x should really stop playing with his powerball [09:16] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:18] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-7ae3663647420056) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Action: Zordrak just birthed another server [09:19] Everyone say hi to Moleman [09:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:20] steppenwolfii (n=greymaus@86-46-210-130-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:21] hey Moleman! running slack, aren't you? :) [09:21] aw tits... im gonna have to remake my nagios nrpe and plugins packages for 64bit [09:21] slava_dp: Moleman's running 64-current :) [09:24] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-181-232.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:25] good for him. has a lot of memory? [09:28] Zordrak: nice [= [09:29] guys this http://web.archive.org/web/20080112142115/slackwiki.org/Minimal_System will work on current slack?or new added apps maybe needed on main install.....? [09:31] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] gotta go, bbl :) [09:32] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:32] Action: compl3x dropped his ciggerete and nearly set the carpet on fire :/ [09:32] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [09:32] compl3x: one of the many reasons why you should quit smoking ! [09:33] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [09:33] StevenR: im on it. [09:33] then get off it [09:34] a little question : is it safe to switch to Slackware64 with slackpkg ? [09:34] Arno[Slack]: that doesnt even count as a question [09:34] mm fresh install [09:34] it's barely sane [09:34] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:34] Zordrak: who was waiting for someone to ask that the other day :p damn they aint here .. was it Dominian? [09:35] and shows a SEVERE lack of understanding of even the most basic principle [09:35] hu ? [09:35] Arno[Slack]: safety is irrelevant [09:35] its insane [09:36] ah ok [09:36] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:36] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [09:36] so : s/is it safe/does it works/ [09:36] :| [09:37] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:37] Arno[Slack]: if you want to go from 32bit to x86_64 you need to do a fresh install [09:37] ok, so I'll wait for slack 13 to be out then :) [09:37] Arno[Slack]: it is possible, but definitely not advised as you need to keep a lot if things in mind. One false step could blow your installation [09:38] though I don't really understand why is it different to upgrade the full distro [09:38] pprkut: like when you switch from 12.2 to current no ? [09:39] Arno[Slack]: even more [09:39] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:39] Arno[Slack]: difference architectures mainly considering that Slackware64 does not have 32bit backward compat layer [09:39] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:39] Arno[Slack]: As far as you are concerned Slack and Slack64 are entirely different operating systems [09:40] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] bojevnik (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:41] init[1] (n=init[1]@116.68.99.175) joined ##slackware. [09:41] v4nelle, i did a minimal install just two days ago. basically what you do is you install everything from a/, then boot into your new system and uninstall those packages that you will not be using. mine included {cups, floppy, gpm, jfsutils, kernel-generic, kernel-huge, kernel-modules, loadlin, xfsprogs}. next step is to cd /mnt/cdrom/slackware/ap and install whatever you wish [09:42] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:42] v4nelle, install ap/slackpkg first, then you can do slackpkg info package and it will tell you how much space it takes on your hdd. [09:43] seriously... who has so little disk space that they carce about a minimal install? [09:43] My servers atm [09:43] straterra: you dont count [09:43] Zordrak: seriously who wants bloat if they just want the thing to do a certain function [09:44] Yes I do [09:44] v4nelle, if you need, say, apache, you go on and install n/httpd. then run it and it'll tell you what libs are missing. you then do slackpkg search thatlib and it tells you what package has it. you go on and install that package, then try to launch httpd again. [09:44] straterra: you have a contrary position to anyone and everything... probably relating to some form of personality disorder, but im not sure which [09:44] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [09:45] Zordrak: not really [09:45] ZOMG! I DISAGREED! YOU MUST BE RIGHT! [09:45] Zordrak, when you have a 1 gig ssd on which you have to cram apache, php, ssh and xorg (and all the supporting stuff), you'll know ;) [09:46] You asked who had little disk space..and I said I do [09:46] kitche: i dont consider it bloat because the only thing its taking up is space because nothing is running unless it needs to be.. so for a gig or two I get to have anything i MIGHT need available to me immediately without wasting anything else than less than 1% of the available disk space [09:46] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [09:46] slava_dp: SSD would be the exception atm i guess [09:46] so friggin expensive per gig [09:47] Im trying to find a cheap miniatm board with cpu to build a small compact file server - however I can't find any cheap second hand in my area :p [09:47] compl3x: i gave up on miniatx fileservers [09:47] Zordrak: howcome? [09:48] compl3x: my choice now is either atx server or NAS box [09:48] Zordrak: ah - I just want something I can fit undermy desk - real small [09:48] i barely have enough space in big atx cases for the disks id need and enough airflow to keep them cool [09:49] Zordrak: I only want - mobo - small ssd, psu [09:49] Zordrak ah ok so your one of thsoe type that rather have everything on a DNS server then [09:49] you wont be serving many files on that... [09:49] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:50] Zordrak: I only want it for around 20 gig of music to share round the house [09:51] tbh i stil wouldnt put an ssd in for that [09:51] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:52] the one advantage is silence. [09:53] You could get a CF card [09:53] Or a quiet laptop SATA drive [09:53] straterra, nope. need a special fs for a flash card contrary to an ssd. [09:53] like jffs2. [09:53] slava_dp: Not really [09:53] You don't HAVE to have a special fs [09:54] disagreed again. look at him! :) [09:54] CF cards are cheap..and most appliance type devices like that support them out of the box [09:54] compl3x, why you don't use a mini-itx with atom330 [09:54] ? [09:54] can you get miniatx with cf slots? [09:55] slots? [09:55] yes you do. because if you put an ordinary fs on it it will die a painful death shortly. [09:55] What do you need slots for? [09:55] It goes inside [09:55] slava_dp: umm your wron g you can use ext2/ext3 heck even UFS on a CF card [09:55] Just don't put swap on it.. [09:55] And if you must, do logging across the network elsewhere [09:55] compl3x, get a ide to cf adapter [09:56] http://www.priveshop.gr/product.php?code=112305 [09:56] hmm [09:56] well we had one cf die within one month. my experience backs what i'm saying. [09:56] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Leaving" [09:56] slava_dp: then you guys were doing something wrong [09:57] like having swap on it or writing logs all the time to it [09:57] nvision (n=nvision@g230002094.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Yeah..we use CF for our Soekris deploys with no special FS..and they last quite a while [09:57] yeah we did logs [09:58] Not that it matters if it does or doesnt [09:58] Doesn't take much to replace one [09:58] compl3x: for what its worth.. in your position, i would either get a small dedicated NAS box (£99 for the box, HDDs at your desire), or put a very slow spinnig, quiet and cool SATA hdd in a mini-itx [09:58] ssd is good .. but at the price they still are you can get so much more value out of other solutions atm [09:58] so tell me, how do you log across the network? do you need a special daemon? [09:59] slava_dp: syslog [09:59] Zordrak: yeah [09:59] slava_dp: umm syslogd does logging across the network as well :) [09:59] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [10:00] Action: Zordrak is still waiting on 5TB SSD as £0.01p/GB ... damnnit what is keeping them? [10:00] *At [10:00] CF isn't that expensive.. [10:00] didn't know syslog can do that. [10:00] *.* @yoursyslogserver [10:01] slava_dp: ive got a very old laserjet that will send events to syslog [10:01] welcome to 1985 [10:01] Zordrak: <3 I like that [10:01] Zordrak, cool [10:01] hmm that supreme court pick just rules that states can ban guns [10:02] ananke, and how do i enable syslogd to listen to remote logs? [10:02] With..google [10:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [10:02] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] google, please enable my syslog. lol [10:03] :D [10:03] Action: Zordrak wonders if Google has spidered a google pages yet...... [10:03] bojevnik (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) joined ##slackware. [10:03] slava_dp : syslogd -r [10:05] sid77_ (n=sid77@88.149.157.90) joined ##slackware. [10:06] <_arfon_> Good morning Slackers [10:06] good morning [10:07] ananke, thanks. my knowledge is furthering every day with the help of this channel. [10:14] Morning [10:17] sid77 (n=sid77@slackware.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:17] heyo [10:18] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:18] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-64-82.ip37.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [10:22] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:22] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] nvision (n=nvision@g230002094.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Connection timed out [10:22] nvision (n=nvision@g230002094.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:28] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-24-126-161-100.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:28] hey guys :-) [10:29] hey macavity [10:29] qneo (n=tricqste@206.19.210.7) left irc: [10:30] helo [10:30] i need advice on the purchase of a monitor [10:31] buy the big one [10:31] get a CRT [10:31] ive been reading reviews and stuff, but i am still none the wiser [10:31] CRT is out of the question [10:31] WTF [10:31] my GF gets a headache even at 100Hz [10:32] Dominian: the prices looks like we are going for 19" or 12" [10:32] *21" [10:32] I like 19" [10:33] straterra: any good advice on brand? [10:33] LG [10:33] no [10:33] Not LG [10:33] straterra: i was a little thrown back at the bad press Asus has been getting on monitors, as ive always been happy with their other product lines [10:33] get an LG with a good response time [10:33] every LG product ive owned the screens gone naf- monitor died and my LG phones screen died [10:33] Action: ananke can't imagine still using a CRT [10:34] mine go naf+ [10:34] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:34] chowabunga: every other LG equipment we have is acting up.. even the fridge :-/ [10:34] we have 30 at my work and only one has an issue [10:34] can anybody tell me which package is the 'default font "fixed"' for the x server? [10:34] macavity: iiyama [10:34] bojevnik (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] one has a loose cable or something so there is one pink line down the screen on the right side [10:34] Zordrak: come again? [10:34] if i squeeze the casing it fixes [10:36] slava_dp> maybe it is built in [10:36] Acer seem cheep, and looking at the spec sheets they should be ok.. but every Acer laptop ive had in my hands has been a god awfull experience [10:36] LG just fail [10:36] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:36] the Prhilips ones that are affordable dont have HDMI [10:36] Action: slava_dp has a samsung at home and it works well. [10:37] whatever you buy always look at the specs and the supported inputs and max resolution [10:37] looking at the back plate is esential [10:37] slava_dp> i dont see the fixed font as a file... [10:38] <_arfon_> Anyone ever heard of this problem.... Last night, a guy brought in a Dell Inspiron with a ATI Rage mobility 3M video chip... The thing has a 1024x768 lcd but when it booted, the display was stuck at 800x600 so the screen looked tiny and letter box'd. I thought it was Linux doing it but, the POST message screen was tiny also... [10:38] _arfon_> the bios can do "stretch to fit" [10:38] and how come the price jumps so insanely from 1050 to 1080?!? [10:38] and when you choose the native resolution in linux it wont be all stretched out, otherwise it will be stretched or letterbox [10:39] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:39] <_arfon_> We looked ALL OVER the BIOS settings and there wasn't squat in there about video. :( [10:39] startx -->> Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' [10:39] <_arfon_> Funny thing is, the BIOS menus displayed correctly [10:39] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:39] _arfon_> well just set linux to use a nice framebuffer and X to use the native resolution [10:40] bios may always be letterbox if there isnt a stretch option [10:40] you can probably hack the firmware to force stretch [10:40] <_arfon_> I'd rather hack the Dell (with an axe)... [10:40] <_arfon_> Stupid-ass dell [10:41] slava_dp: what monitor do you have? [10:41] slava_dp: model number that is? [10:41] macavity, it's an old one. from a couple of years ago. and my gf has a samsung too, bought it this winter, great monitor too. [10:42] Xeus_22 (n=noban@190.51.246.135) joined ##slackware. [10:43] Samy1 (n=Kimmy@92.84.11.232) joined ##slackware. [10:45] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:45] slava_dp: i am not too sure, but it looks like you can do with any of the ones mentioned in /var/log/packages/font-alias-1.0.1-noarch-1 [10:45] damn, so many packages in the x/ category..... [10:46] err.. the fonts.alias files mentioned in said package log [10:47] but installing font-adobe-75dpi is probably a good place to start : [10:47] :P [10:47] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) left irc: "Fui embora" [10:48] got it. it's font-alias + font-misc-misc [10:49] Did someone connect to the internet with speedtouch 330? [10:50] nice to know [10:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedTouch_330 <-- go read it. this was a bad choice of modem. [10:52] "They are notorious among Linux users, since no mainstream Linux distribution will allow the modem to be used without a dialup script and a non free firmware." [10:53] Sammy1 (i=Argus18@92.84.11.232) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Sammy1 (i=Argus18@92.84.11.232) left irc: Client Quit [10:54] hi [10:54] allo [10:54] Samy2 (i=samyw@92.84.11.232) joined ##slackware. [10:54] i dont speach english.... [10:54] my from is argentina [10:54] could not open default cursor font 'cursor' lol [10:55] and have a problem... [10:55] Xeus_22: whats the problem [10:55] upgrade slack-current32 to slackware-current64 [10:55] Xeus_22: You can't upgrade - you must do a fresh install [10:56] download iso slack64 ando mount the iso [10:56] no, burn it and boot it [10:56] trust us on this one [10:56] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Second person today asking if they can upgraed to 64 bit :/ [10:56] <_arfon_> We nned a FAQ or somethng [10:56] upgradepkg --reinstall --instal-new /iso/slackware64/*/*.t?z [10:56] <_arfon_> need and something even [10:56] can i upgrade to slackware128? heard it's out! [10:57] Xeus_22: no no no no [10:57] Xeus_22: are you having a problem understanding what we are saying? [10:57] and puuummmm.... crashhhh [10:57] Action: slava_dp can't stop giggling [10:57] Xeus_22: you can not upgrade to 64bit... you must do clean reinstall [10:57] :( [10:57] Why do people beleive they can upgrade a 32 bit os to a 64bit that simply- you cannot do it [10:58] <_arfon_> Xeus: 1) backup your data you want to keep. [10:58] anyhow, cya later [10:58] <_arfon_> 2) dOWNLOAD AND burn THE sLACK64 ISO TO DISC [10:58] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [10:58] [_arfon_] 2) OK [10:58] <_arfon_> 3) Boot your computer on the new 64bit disc and reinstall fresh [10:58] <_arfon_> 4) copy your data back over [10:58] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-7ae3663647420056) left irc: "Teste" [10:59] what data backup??? .conf's ?? [10:59] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.68) joined ##slackware. [10:59] i /home in other partition [10:59] Xeus_22: anything you want to keep [10:59] wow, this is a great topic [10:59] hey vastina [10:59] <_arfon_> Xeus: I back up: /home/* and httpd.conf [10:59] heya compl3x [11:00] vastina: Wassup? [11:00] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:00] /topic GTFO you are an idiot, /mode +mik douchebags [11:00] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-51d05d5dabb5fb4f) joined ##slackware. [11:00] compl3x: IT shit, the other side of it... crawling up attics, installing heavy load rope to mount new rails... [11:01] vastina: haha sounds fun, mount new rails for what? [11:01] <_arfon_> Correction: I back up - /home/* /etc/httpd/httpd.conf (and vhost) and /var/www/htdocs/* [11:01] [_arfon_] i have /home in othr partition [11:01] Xeus_22: make sure you dont touch it when installin 64 [11:02] compl3x: cabling plane into the new rack [11:02] what data nedd backup? all data in / directory? /etc? [11:02] vastina: ah nice [11:02] <_arfon_> Xeus, Then you're golden... you may have to play with UID/GID stuff when you are done. [11:03] <_arfon_> You can rebuild config files by had... [11:03] <_arfon_> hand [11:03] arguing with my woman of a boss on how high i should mount the damned railing and arguinon stupid aesthetics [11:03] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:03] <_arfon_> Just backup /home/* [11:03] _arfon_: is the neccessairy? [11:03] <_arfon_> Xeus, are you running any servers on your box? [11:04] <_arfon_> Compl3x not really for him. [11:04] no _arfon_ no run server [11:04] only ssh [11:04] caio (n=caio@190.244.32.54) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:04] <_arfon_> Just keep your /home data safe [11:04] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:05] how do i scroll to read e-mail in mutt wtf [11:05] ok reinstall my slack... snif snif snif [11:05] chowabunga: alt+ scroll? [11:05] i backup my rc.local [11:05] Xeus_22: good plan [11:05] Xeus_22: sniff? it's what has to be done, why is this hard to swallow? [11:05] and.... mmmmm.... /etc/profile [11:05] chowabunga: many ways. enter is one of them [11:05] i like my path colours :P [11:05] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [11:05] ah enter works thx [11:05] Xeus_22: You mainly want to backup things youve spent a while on - ie configs etc [11:06] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "just for today" [11:06] why is twitter trying to get me to restore my deleted account [11:06] oh, don't forget your bookmarks and picture files, *chuckles* [11:06] i didnt request this! [11:07] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Client Quit [11:07] Samy1 (n=Kimmy@92.84.11.232) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:08] Xeus_22: Are you currently running current32 or slack12.2 [11:08] yes [11:08] current32 [11:08] Xeus_22: ah right - just checking you know its current [ [11:08] tooly (n=theo@e178183101.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:11] I going to lose something, something I going to forgetting of backup. But there we go [11:12] Xeus_22: always happens to me lol [11:13] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: "maintenance" [11:13] Samy2 (i=samyw@92.84.11.232) left irc: "Leaving" [11:16] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [11:16] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.234.11) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:18] YAY! [11:18] hey tecky did you check out that acoustic ? [11:20] Samy1 (i=samyw@92.84.11.232) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Nick change: sid77_ -> sid77 [11:25] caio (n=caio@190.244.32.54) joined ##slackware. [11:25] yht (n=yht@114.121.62.156) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Mero_ (n=root@201009172024.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:28] ToxAtec (n=ToxAtec@dslb-088-070-046-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] la [11:32] g [11:33] la la la [11:33] lag lag lag [11:34] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-164-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.159.151) joined ##slackware. [11:35] there I go. In awhile I return and them warning as it were to me [11:36] cava (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] by my English, is terrible [11:36] :S [11:36] mui mal [11:36] [chowabunga] jajajaja si, muy malo! [11:36] <_arfon_> Xeus, you're English is better then my Etruscian.... [11:37] rosocrutian! [11:37] bye bye!! [11:37] thanks [11:37] <_arfon_> That's Illuminati talk Chow [11:37] jajajaja [11:38] byeeeeeeee [11:38] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [11:38] <_arfon_> Bye X [11:38] Xeus_22 (n=noban@190.51.246.135) left irc: "• IRcap [7.51] • http://www.ircap.com •" [11:38] <_arfon_> German now? [11:38] _arfon_> i guess? [11:38] i looked in the back of my brothers book about the satanist led zepellin group, and the author had studied all kinds of rosocrutian crap [11:38] <_arfon_> Not the rosocrutian, X said ja ja ja ja [11:40] <_arfon_> Are you convinced that Led Z is a tool of satan? [11:40] <_arfon_> ...or just tools? [11:40] well, they are satanists...at least some of them [11:41] <_arfon_> I wonder what Satanists bake sales are like..... [11:41] <_arfon_> Do they put little horns on the cupcakes? [11:41] _arfon_: probably they only bake 666 cookies at the time ;) [11:42] <_arfon_> Make little Jesus faces in the icing with a red circle-bar through them? [11:42] <_arfon_> :) That's a Satanist dozen? [11:42] well its strange that a lot of groups that promote satanism have hidden crap in their records when played in reverse and such [11:43] beatles, led zepellin, jay-z [11:43] dire straits! [11:43] most of its done on purpose [11:43] <_arfon_> the Go-Gos [11:43] jaz-z played backwards says "murder murder jesus - 6.6.6" [11:44] and it cant be understood forward [11:44] yeah and slackware spelled backwards is "baby eating ftw!" [11:44] just gibberish, so its obviously a message [11:44] Zordrak: meh. I couldn't eat a whole one ... at least not for breakfast [11:45] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:45] i have ignore *!*@*zelda* all so i cant hear Zordrak [11:47] Publically announcing ignores is so 1992 [11:50] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:51] ... I nearly asked you why my damn xfce4 didn't start anymore, now I noticed that I forgot to upgrade the x/ and xap/ packages when upgrading to slackware-current.. I'm such a fool :D bb [11:51] ToxAtec (n=ToxAtec@dslb-088-070-046-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:51] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] bwj767 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:56] Samy1 (i=samyw@92.84.11.232) left irc: "Leaving" [11:59] im wearing socks [11:59] congrats? [11:59] im that guy [11:59] Do you want a cookie? [12:00] atv354 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Nick change: atv354 -> zvw664 [12:02] Nick change: chowabunga -> GuyInSocks [12:05] s/GuyInSocks/PussInBoots/g [12:06] whats the countdown to ww4 [12:07] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:08] hi all [12:08] hello [12:08] hi ;p [12:10] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [12:11] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-51d05d5dabb5fb4f) left irc: [12:11] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-181-232.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [12:12] hmm [12:12] i just got an idear [12:12] anyone want to hear my idear [12:12] no [12:13] uhashu [12:15] put youtube.com -> localhost in hosts file, then make a php script in /var/www/htdocs/ called 'watch' that direct links to the FLV video from a youtube/watch?v= link [12:15] WTF is the point in that? 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[12:30] see [12:30] Linux j 2.6.29.4-smp #2 SMP Wed May 27 11:14:42 PDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [12:30] heh [12:31] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [12:33] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: "Leaving." [12:33] all that power, still in 32 bit mode [12:34] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: "Saindo" [12:34] teehee [12:34] what do i do damnit, i want to remote desktop but it's slow. [12:35] has anyone benchmarked stock slackware64 current and slackware32 current ? [12:35] on same hardware [12:35] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-24-245.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:36] no, but you definitely should [12:37] lol [12:37] thrice`, open up your magical mind. what do i do about this lag in rdesktop [12:37] there are a couple good ubuntu32 vs. ubuntu64 articles around which do the job quite well :) [12:37] buy a faster connection =) [12:37] hahaha [12:37] Don't use krdc perhaps? [12:38] And try tightvnc instead? [12:38] see how easy linux is? :) [12:38] That's the kind of answer Solaris people give.. [12:38] using rdesktop f00l, krdc was lik that too [12:38] let me try tightvnc [12:38] krdc works fine [12:38] "OpenSolaris isn't fast enough for me!" "Buy better hardware, chump." [12:38] honors all of the remote protocols [12:38] eviljames, is it toit like a toiger ? [12:38] true Dominian but laggy :/ [12:39] not for me [12:39] works fine for me [12:39] you can adjust the "detail" that the connection will give you.. like colors etc... if you have the detail set really high it can be really slow [12:39] /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0: undefined reference to `_xcb_lock_io' [12:39] /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0: undefined reference to `_xcb_unlock_io' [12:39] my ish is borke. [12:40] jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [12:40] how can you full screen krdc ? [12:40] jeev_: you updated libxcb to 1.2 ? [12:40] how can you integrate the remote desktop into yours like VBox integrated mode? [12:40] heh :P [12:40] let me see, i know i did [12:41] i did some xcb stuf fi think [12:41] jeev_: if you updated libxcb to 1.2, *everything* that links to it will requiring rebuilding (basically, all of x/, xap/ kde/, etc) [12:41] If VBox's integrated mode worked better with compositing that would make me a little happier. [12:41] eek [12:41] what links to it :D [12:41] anything that links against libX11, basically (everything graphical). this was one of the big xorg changes [12:41] i see. [12:44] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "brb" [12:45] Nick change: cava -> _ohm [12:46] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:48] yea i'd have to recompile everything [12:48] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.15.49) joined ##slackware. [12:48] dont feel like it right now [12:49] or maybe i will, who knows [12:49] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.15.49) left ##slackware. [12:49] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.15.49) joined ##slackware. [12:49] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.15.49) left ##slackware. [12:51] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:51] [firestarter] (n=[firesta@201.86.198.15) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Greetings everyone. :) [12:53] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-080-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:54] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [12:55] Nick change: |ast|_ -> egrub [12:58] [firestarter] (n=[firesta@201.86.198.15) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] hi firebird619:) how goes it? [12:59] Hey hitest, going great, thanks. you? [13:00] pretty good. home from work today. chest cold. so surfin, relaxin:) [13:01] cool, hope you get rid of the chest cold soon, that's no fun to have. [13:01] don't let that crap turn into bronchitis [13:02] hey antiwire, how's it going? [13:02] chillin [13:02] laying in bed still [13:02] it's 10am [13:03] haha [13:03] how slow is usb 2.0 on flash usb drives ? [13:04] snL20: Timing cached reads: 2162 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1081.95 MB/sec [13:04] Timing buffered disk reads: 60 MB in 3.01 seconds = 19.93 MB/sec [13:04] that's USB2 with an 8GB flash stick [13:05] i'm getting like 500kbyteprsecond to 1 megabyte pr second in krellm on a 8gb flash stick [13:05] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:05] thanks firebird619, antiwire:) yeah I've had bronchitis before, that shit sucks. [13:05] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-24-245.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:07] antiwire: and thats reads i'm writing :) [13:08] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:09] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:09] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [13:09] jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [13:09] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-40-159-71.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [13:11] snL20: 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 87.6568 s, 12.0 MB/s [13:11] 12MB/s writes [13:11] using this as a test dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/disk/testfile.bin bs=1M count=1000 [13:11] antiwire: 12 megabite ? [13:11] byte [13:11] megabyte [13:11] ehm byte [13:12] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [13:12] snL20: if you have 1GB of space try that dd command as a test [13:12] TX bytes:698412854 (666.0 MiB) [13:12] has anyone benchmarked stock slackware64 current and slackware32 current on same hardware [13:13] scubacuda (n=rog@nmd.sbx09875.orlanfl.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] someone else was going to try that about an hour ago. check the back-log [13:14] antiwire: I've been copying about 700mb now for 25 mins... [13:14] man so many people are having issues with slashdot and trying to get in the opensoalris chat [13:15] snL20: are you sure that your system is using thr usb2 modules and doesn't only have the usb 1.1 modules loaded? [13:15] antiwire: what are the usb 2.0 modules names ? [13:16] antiwire: usblp 11732 0 [13:16] usb_storage 93216 2 [13:16] usbcore 134576 5 usblp,usb_storage,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd [13:16] Channel flood from snL20 -- kicking [13:16] scsi_mod 100404 5 usb_storage,sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata [13:16] snL20 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:17] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:17] :P [13:17] *ahem* plz see topk, kthx! [13:17] snL20: well depending on your system the USB 1.1 modules will be either ohci or uhci and the usb2 module is called ehci [13:18] antiwire: ehci_hcd 34688 0 [13:18] antiwire: shows up in list [13:21] [firestarter] (n=paulo@201.86.198.15.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:24] antiwire: do I have to do anything special with a flash drive that supports both to make it use usb 2.0 ? [13:24] not usually, nope [13:25] moshe (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:25] lspci | grep USB [13:26] pornstarr (n=onlyme@very.wetpanties.biz) joined ##slackware. [13:26] 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) [13:26] 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a4) [13:26] anyone care to explain how the load average works on gnu/linux? I have a vague idea... [13:27] [firestarter] (n=paulo@201.86.198.15.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [13:27] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [13:27] anyone? [13:28] I was typing but you're too impatient [13:28] now prepare to be permbanned!#@!!one!!! [13:28] type quicker [13:28] j0z (n=JESUS@189.30.165.211) joined ##slackware. [13:28] ... [13:28] hahaha [13:28] pornstarr: best possible answer. good job. [13:28] now i'm not going to tell you anything [13:28] ouch [13:29] pornstarr: You're referring to the end of uptime? [13:29] just in general [13:30] vastina_ (n=vastina@206.105.111.187) joined ##slackware. [13:30] moshe (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] god forbid you just use google... [13:30] eviljames, have any idea? [13:30] yea [13:30] pornstarr: check this link out: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+load+average [13:30] Should do the trick... [13:30] there's only 37M pages out there about it...but i can see how it would be difficult to find information.... [13:31] Wow, someone has their sarcasm shoes on this morning [13:31] antiwire: rough night last night? [13:31] i'll eat you all [13:31] pornstarr: http://luv.asn.au/overheads/NJG_LUV_2002/luvSlides.html might actually be more useful :P [13:32] I wonder what IRC is for [13:32] Enable javascript to use LMGTFY. [13:32] ...controlling botnets [13:32] that's about it [13:33] Well, this is a channel that encourages reading and self-discovery [13:33] it's so people who don't really know something on a subject can type it into google and pretend to help [13:33] Probably not the best place to ask "hold my hand and explain something to me.." you'll just get a series of links to documentaiton. [13:33] i discovered myself, and i didnt like what i saw! [13:33] then i watched american idle [13:34] idle or idol? [13:34] Guest77043 (n=eddie@pool-162-83-144-194.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] billy idol [13:34] then i changed my mind [13:34] wheres your shoes!? [13:35] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:35] he's not wearing the sock on his foot [13:35] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [13:35] y0 antler [13:35] hey firebird619 :) [13:35] i cut the end off one sock and sewed it to the other sock, so its big enough [13:35] firebird619: back to firefox :P [13:35] heheh [13:36] scubacuda_ (n=rog@nmd.sbx09875.orlanfl.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] antler: :( :P [13:36] a new opera 10 snapshot is out, with the beginning of the new skin. [13:36] ill make a bean bag out of a toboggin [13:36] firebird619, i finally got the pants i ordrered off old navy today it only took 10days [13:37] nix_chix0r: wow, what the heck took so long. :P [13:37] i think they still use pidgeons [13:37] evidently [13:37] nix_chix0r> 10 days? what the hell is wrong with you [13:37] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7354c4a5c6bdd73c) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:37] nix_chix0r, don't wear pants [13:37] nix_chix0r, run around in panties [13:37] that's their spend 100bucks get free shipping [13:37] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d407be8dcc8d4535) joined ##slackware. [13:37] antiwire: I rebooted but still no go [13:37] pornstarr, they are work pants [13:37] Any way I can get firefox 2 to display the true URL when I hover the mouse over a link? IE6 does. Does firefix 3 display the true URL as des IE6? [13:38] 100 dollars in pants from old navy? thats like 100 pairs of pants [13:38] more like 3 pairs of dress slacks [13:38] snL20: you should investigate your USB chipset and see if others are having similar issues [13:38] GuyInSocks: true url? [13:38] As opposed to the false url? [13:38] antiwire: what was that dd cmd again [13:38] pornstarr: something tells me that you don't get enough tang [13:38] Action: pornstarr puls down nix_chix0r's skirt [13:38] i'd do anything for this lag in rdesktop to go [13:38] it's a good deal for me because normally i have to spend more money on pants to fit me because i'm so short [13:38] Tyrael (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:38] tang is fortified with vitamin c! [13:39] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [13:39] antiwire: it works ok with my external usb hd though... [13:39] dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/mounted/usb/stick/testfile.bin bs=1M count=1000 [13:39] True URL - a Link may say "Download Source", in IE6, hovering over the link will display the http true url at the bottom left of the IE6 window. [13:39] IE6 is great [13:39] antler, err.. [13:40] wtf? [13:40] eh? >.> [13:40] I use Windows 2000 and IE6 is last version supported for Windows 2000. I NEED IE. [13:40] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:40] oh my gosh [13:40] someone kick this dude [13:41] Why do you *need* IE6? [13:41] Guest77043> firefox can do anything [13:41] have you heard of extensions? [13:42] Firefox does that for me with no alteration [13:42] ietab is pretty neat in firefox [13:42] AlexElliott, which version of FF? [13:42] Every single one I remember up to and including 3.0.5 [13:42] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.187) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:43] Right now I'm in Linux - my W2K is down right now. [13:43] surprise me [13:43] don't feed the trolls [13:43] right about now funksobrother check it out now [13:43] plus seeing the "true url"(tm)(r) doesnt exactly help you copy it [13:43] http://tinyurl.com/lg48le [13:43] nix_chix0r: haha [13:43] AlexElliott, I didn't see any Preference that lets met activate seeing the full URL. [13:43] bomb funk mc's [13:43] firefox doesn't do activex. [13:43] or something, right? [13:43] Necos, check it check check check it out now [13:43] i made a remix ha [13:43] Guest77043> give us an example of page where you would do this [13:44] ananke, there is a bad plugin for activex [13:44] or need "true url view technology" (tm)(r) [13:44] well, sourceforge for one [13:45] pornstarr : 'bad' is a good description [13:45] hehehe [13:45] given the nick pornstarr i read that as activsex [13:45] >.> [13:45] lol [13:45] ha [13:45] idlesex > [13:45] ananke, don't try it with the windows update website... fsck... [13:45] u c wut i did thr [13:46] Guest77043: built i as a default in FF - no preferences needed [13:46] careful, I'll activesex you nix_chix0r [13:46] hohoho [13:46] and her hubby will stab you in the nuts >.> [13:46] zing he expertly returned the volley of wits [13:46] teh clevar man [13:47] pornstarr: see? not enough tang. [13:47] Action: Necos pokes nix_chix0r with a stick [13:47] tang enhances the immune system [13:47] Action: pornstarr tackle hugs nix_chix0r onto the bed [13:48] lol only gays hug [13:48] gayinsocks [13:48] go [13:48] hahhaha [13:48] Nick change: GuyInSocks -> GoyInSocks [13:48] my wordpress blog is so awesome... [13:49] all I need now is a decent twitter badge/widget [13:49] anyone recommend one? [13:49] twitter is for gays [13:49] we dun liek ur kind arond her boy [13:49] Dude, that's not nice. Gays have MUCH more class than that. [13:50] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:50] why am I not surprised that this is chowbunga [13:51] For example http://nocat.net/ - when I hove the cursor over "wireless community networks" I do NOT see the URL the http of the destination - what I call the True URL. [13:51] antiwire, you missed my rappin dawg [13:51] Guest77043> i see it fine in the status bar http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wirelesscommnet2/ [13:52] +1 [13:52] GoyInSocks, Where do you see the URL? where in the FF window? [13:52] wireless community networks. [13:52] in the status BARRRRRR [13:52] firebird619, GO MEAT [13:53] >.> [13:53] GoyInSocks, where is the status bar? I don't see one in my 2.0.0.20 [13:53] so enable it from View menu [13:53] i just have to point this out because i find it hilarious: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1370237 [13:53] scubacuda (n=rog@nmd.sbx09875.orlanfl.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:54] nix_chix0r: hahaha. I like those commercials. Hillshire Farm....GO MEAT. [13:54] firebird619, makes me want like a brat or steak [13:54] it's so nice outside and i have to work soon [13:54] GoyInSocks, DOH!!!! THANKS GOY! [13:54] it's freezing outside [13:54] work is for bonded men in a capitalist system! [13:54] Yeah, it's 73 here, perfect outside today. [13:54] nix_chix0r: ^^^ [13:55] to hell with that, it's nice and cool in LA ^_^ [13:55] i wanna go to the beach [13:55] lol [13:55] oh man [13:55] 68 here firebird619 to me thats perfect slight breeze [13:55] oooh yeah ^_^ [13:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] not too hot that you have to wear shorts, not too cold that you have to wear something heavier than a tshirt [13:56] find me weather like that all year round and i'll ditch mn [13:58] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE79EA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] wnb (n=wnb@80.243.77.205) joined ##slackware. [13:58] any idea where i can get OpenGL 2.1? [13:59] Xeus_22 (n=Xeus_22@190.51.246.135) joined ##slackware. [14:00] opengl.org? [14:00] i [14:00] hi [14:00] i install slackware-current64 [14:00] LA nix_chix0r =p [14:00] i dont speach english [14:00] my from is argentina [14:00] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [14:00] im not sure if i want to raise a kid in LA [14:01] lol yeah, i can see where that would be a problem [14:01] GoyInSocks: I was sorta hoping for a slackware package, but thx [14:01] i install slackware-current64 and cant compile programs [14:01] Xeus_22: from slackbuild, or from source? [14:02] Xeus_22: why not? [14:02] pornstarr (n=onlyme@very.wetpanties.biz) left irc: "Leaving" [14:02] what about northern california Necos any good areas there [14:02] fluxnuk3r> doesnt it come with your video driver [14:02] from slackbuild [14:02] Xeus_22: ARCH="x86_64" .SlackBuild [14:03] checking for gcc... gcc [14:03] checking for C compiler default output file name... [14:03] configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [14:03] Xeus_22: did you set arch to x86_64 ? [14:03] GoyInSocks: apparently not. just got an error message requesting it [14:03] wnb (n=wnb@80.243.77.205) left ##slackware. [14:03] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:03] also, be sure that the slackbuild has a section for 64-bit architecture [14:03] fluxnuk3r> are you goign to keep all the details to yourself? [14:03] what? [14:03] Don't really know much about NorCal, but SF is pretty nice [14:04] x86_64 Intel(R) [14:04] Xeus_22: no, in the slackbuild [14:04] Xeus_22> try building something on your own [14:04] which slackbuild are you doing Xeus_22 [14:04] there aren't any more details then that, im trying to run a game and I only get one error, requesting opengl 2.1 [14:04] ahhh need modify slackbuild? [14:04] fluxnuk3r: iirc, openGl is a standard, not a downloadable thing per se. [14:04] fluxnuk3r: your video-card driver needs to support it [14:04] fluxnuk3r> so the brand of video card doesnt matter? [14:04] fluxnuk3r: 2.1 should be supported as of Mesa 7.0 [14:04] openGL is in Mesa [14:05] depends on the driver; I think intel is still on 1.5 or something [14:05] Necos, whats on the other side of where it could potentially break off and float away [14:05] ARCH=${ARCH:-i486} [14:05] i'll move 100miles north of that [14:05] in slackbuild [14:05] Xeus_22: yes, change that to x86_64 [14:05] lol [14:05] Xeus_22: Right, so at the command prompt:$ ARCH="x86_64" ./.SlackBuild [14:05] I've got an onboard nvidia [14:06] yeeeaaaaaa [14:06] :) [14:06] fluxnuk3r> and when you startx you see the nvidia splash screen? [14:06] thanks eviljames [14:06] Xeus_22: no problem, good luck! :D [14:06] and thrice` [14:06] yah, i do [14:06] sure :> [14:07] ah, well mine doesnt spport 2.1 either [14:07] not yet...so...what game [14:07] savage1 [14:07] nix_chix0r: or try oregon ^_^ [14:07] err wait [14:07] savage2* [14:07] OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 180.51 [14:07] Samy1 (i=Argus18@92.82.89.240) joined ##slackware. [14:08] bash-3.1$ glxinfo|grep version [14:08] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [14:08] you have to be careful when you use the proprietary driver, because it fucks with Mesa [14:08] Necos: Indeed, it selectively replaces parts of Mesa [14:08] OpenGL version string: 3.0.0 NVIDIA 180.29 >.< [14:09] wacky [14:09] probably an updated mesa :) [14:09] so the games' gone nuts [14:09] lol [14:10] OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.1 [14:10] upgrade the driver to the latest [14:10] >.<; [14:10] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [14:10] hey [14:10] ho [14:10] it will probably fix it [14:10] i.e. the nvidia driver? [14:10] yes [14:10] don't talk about nvidia ]= [14:10] lol [14:10] trying to sort out my 52" [14:11] screw you :P [14:11] its on a different gfx card to my two primary monitors [14:11] use the nvidia-settings program [14:11] its easy to setup [14:11] GoyInSocks: I am :p [14:11] GoyInSocks: come over here and say that :p [14:11] Might have to switch to kde to get this working fine [14:11] can i bring a gun? [14:11] GoyInSocks: k [14:11] hmm bbiab [14:11] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: Client Quit [14:12] lol [14:12] Action: fluxnuk3r forgot what chipset he has... [14:13] lspci ? [14:13] nix_chix0r: yeah, same here. :P find a place with weather like that all the time. that'd be great. plus, a place that isn't humid like mn is quite a bit of the time. [14:13] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:13] GeForce 8200 :D [14:13] firebird619: could be worse... [14:14] :) true. [14:14] nix_chix0r> do another remix [14:14] nix_chix0r: where is this remix? :p [14:14] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] weird. anyone know what the 8200 is under? i.e. series? [14:14] series 8? [14:15] Hey fluxnuk3r, how are you? [14:15] hey firebird619 :) [14:15] long time [14:16] your card is Geforce 8 series. [14:16] Action: fluxnuk3r wishes they listed freaking chipset numbers :/ [14:16] thanks guys [14:16] u welcome Mr McSteeds [14:17] ?? [14:17] theres more than one way to milk a goat [14:17] lol [14:17] brb. installing :) [14:17] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:19] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [14:21] brb [14:21] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:21] same error :/ [14:22] what error are you getting? I probably can't help with it, but I'm curious. :P [14:23] Samy1 (i=Argus18@92.82.89.240) left irc: [14:23] bash-3.1$ ./savage2.bin [14:23] Savage2 - Fatal Error: OpenGL 2.1 not available. [14:23] thats it. [14:24] so edit the config file [14:24] maybe you can disable crap [14:24] slackware-current64 not compile with cpufreq? O.o [14:24] meh. dont think it'll let me. [14:24] fluxnuk3r: ouch. [14:25] :P [14:25] Xeus_22: sure it is [14:25] Xeus_22> slackbuilds? [14:25] wtf [14:25] fluxnuk3r: what's ./savage2.bin? [14:25] are you talking about [14:26] firebird619: a game [14:26] fluxnuk3r: ah ok. [14:27] firebird619: smells like kittypoo! [14:27] fluxnuk3r: http://forums.savage2.com/showthread.php?t=15743 <--this any help? That person is on gentoo, but maybe fix is the same? [14:28] hey tecky [14:28] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [14:28] wb compl3x [14:29] hey firebird619 - brb food :) [14:29] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.172.72) joined ##slackware. [14:29] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [14:29] compl3x: haha, k. :) [14:29] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.172.72) joined ##slackware. [14:29] fluxnuk3r> yeah it says update the game [14:31] sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0 $ ls [14:31] cache cpuidle thermal_throttle topology [14:31] not cpufreq :S [14:31] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:31] hmm thanks firebird619 [14:31] Nick change: SlackNeo_ -> SlackNeo [14:31] agh much better :O [14:31] I'm trying that now [14:31] i changed my theme :P [14:31] fluxnuk3r: your welcome. [14:31] ugh ... default irssi theme is terribad [14:31] now to fix this up a little bit more :X [14:32] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:32] Nick change: egrub -> |ast| [14:34] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [14:35] my friend works in a biolab and there is an open position right now... the sole task is testing blood samples for AIDs [14:36] mmmm badly cooked noodles [14:36] compl3x: lol, you cooked them yourself then? :P [14:36] firebird619: ofcourse :) :p [14:36] he burns his tea water too... [14:37] :) [14:37] don't joke - :p [14:37] compl3x: Ramen noodles? (the poor mans noodle) [14:37] I did however make a cup earlier - and forgot the sugar milk and teabag [14:37] haha [14:37] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:37] firebird619: over here theyre called super noodles :P microwave 3 minute jobby [14:37] lol [14:37] where is "over here" [14:37] haha [14:37] UK [14:38] ah. figured :P [14:38] noodles ftw! [14:38] y0 BP{k}, how's it going? [14:38] Action: fluxnuk3r steals BP{k}'s noodles [14:38] Xeus_22 (n=Xeus_22@190.51.246.135) left irc: "Nos vemos..." [14:38] Action: BP{k} waits for fluxnuk3r to spontanously combust. [14:38] you cook exploding noodles? :P [14:39] lol [14:39] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:39] firebird619: no - hes using his mind powers duh [14:39] firebird619: not bad, thanks. et tu? [14:39] easier than chasing after him [14:39] firebird619: you know if pat has flagged BX as depreciated yet? [14:39] BP{k} = vulcan gone mad :) [14:39] firebird619: and no, I just am rather fond of very spicy food. [14:39] BP{k}: doing great, thanks. The weather couldn't be more perfect today. [14:39] BP{k}: ah, ok. [14:39] :) [14:39] Greetings [14:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-24-245.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:39] tecky: in -current it's removed and there was an advisery about it IIRC [14:39] pff. BP{k}, I grew up in africa. i know spicy food ;) [14:40] BP{k}: ty [14:40] fluxnuk3r: hehe, my family originates from Indonesia. My mom learned cooking it pretty much the traditional way. [14:40] tecky: http://slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009&m=slackware-security.285737 [14:41] well, in the western nations, they add water to the soup so more people can have some. in africa, the add pepper :) [14:41] BX is old >.> [14:41] they* [14:41] lol [14:41] im not kidding >.< [14:41] it sucks when they expect 6 people and end up with 20... [14:42] lol [14:42] fluxnuk3r: luckily kethry likes spicy food :) [14:42] Necos: yes i know... trying to weed a friend off it, and prove why. [14:42] fluxnuk3r: sounds like the immigrant problem in greece [14:42] Necos: I used bx back in 96/97 [14:42] i use epic tho.... [14:42] epic4 2.0.0 (Circumlocution) + hienoa 0.53 [14:42] i used epic, aswell [14:42] lol The-Croupier [14:42] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] we expected 2% and we have 20% of the country..(and they are only the legitimate ones) [14:43] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:43] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:43] well, we are developing new breeds of humans. fish-Cubans and frog-Mexicans. [14:43] /me has 5 days away from his girlfriend :) [14:44] there are the few that come across legally, but not a lot. [14:44] compl3x: wow, gonna throw a party. :P [14:44] and they're making it harder to renew passports.. [14:44] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] firebird619: no :/ - apparently have to phone her aswell :p [14:45] you have to check in with her? :P [14:45] compl3x: turn of the music for 5 minutes [14:45] lol [14:45] you have to phone her? [14:45] firebird619: haha no - but she wants me to ring her [14:45] why did my mind instantly go in the gutter? [14:45] witch basically is yes I have to ring her :p [14:45] kama (n=kama@host192-119-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:45] "everyone quite, got to call the gf" . :P [14:45] err, quiet [14:46] pics or not true [14:46] compl3x: haha [14:46] firebird619: I don't trust myself :p [14:46] so no partys [14:46] :( [14:46] kama (n=kama@host192-119-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] firebird619: but hey you can come over ;) [14:46] firebird619: you find abby for me yet? [14:46] compl3x: get some confidence and trust man, good grief. :P [14:46] tecky: nope, you been searching? [14:46] compl3x: where in the UK are you agian? [14:47] BP{k}: Cornwall.. [14:47] /Devon [14:47] bah. too long a drive :) [14:47] BP{k}: where abouts are you? [14:47] compl3x: Manchester. [14:48] BP{k}: lol - Support them? ;) [14:48] firebird619: why, no i haven't :( [14:48] tecky: how come? [14:48] :P [14:48] firebird619: that was your job! [14:48] :O [14:48] compl3x: mean ;) [14:48] Action: firebird619 finds pink slip notice in mail. (WHA, tecky, you fired me?) :P [14:48] its still sore... [14:49] haha [14:49] compl3x: nah. 1) I don't really watch the footy 2) if there is one team to support it's the Dutch national in the European/World Championships ;) [14:49] BP{k}: yeah I personally don't like football, but can't escape it. [14:49] compl3x: why? gf makes you watch it? :P [14:49] compl3x: sure you can ;) [14:49] i honestly should take the time and reinstall slackware, i'm just so f'n lazy that i've really not had the ambition to work on backing up this ubuntu install, and then spending the time w/ slackware and a kern. config :\ [14:50] firebird619: na - news etc [14:50] compl3x: Ah, ok. :) [14:50] tecky: mind your language. [14:50] ;) [14:50] compl3x: ? [14:50] tecky: "ubuntu" :p [14:50] tecky: ubuntu? ewwwwww [14:50] Ubuntu = bad word. :P [14:51] U***** [14:51] about ubuntu ... i'm sorry, but i work + school ... i didn't/don't have the time for compiling everything :\ [14:51] ya... whatever [14:51] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE79EA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [14:51] i still use debian for every single server i own [14:51] lol [14:51] Debian's better than Ubuntu [14:51] but slackware's better than both. ;) [14:51] for a server, /agree [14:51] heh, you don't need to compile everything in slackware [14:52] pfft [14:52] hitest, this i know, i refuse to use slackbuilds tho [14:52] why? [14:52] why? [14:52] why? .hehe [14:52] haha [14:52] lol [14:52] dear god common :P [14:52] slackbuilds ftw [14:52] yep [14:52] compl3x: +1 [14:52] scubacuda_ (n=rog@nmd.sbx09875.orlanfl.wayport.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:52] slackbuilds burn'd me once before.... and i kinda dont want that same thing happening again [14:52] tecky: pat uses them [14:53] tecky: you're doing it wrong. :P [14:53] tecky: burned? [14:53] alisonken1home: if he didn't - eh slackware wouldn't have any packages really would it ;)? [14:53] Hey alisonken1home, how are you? [14:53] i just got an email from someone who I hoped to never talk to again. [14:53] firebird619: tired [14:53] compl3x: of course it would. it would just take a whole lot longer. ;) [14:53] antiwire: then don't reply lol [14:53] BP{k}: fair enough , and tbh a lot less organised [14:53] alisonken1home: i'm still trying to figure out if your a female carbon life unit or not [14:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:54] work nights, get to sleep at 8:30 - only to get woke up at 10:30 - followed by reeses peanut butter cup ice cream [14:54] tecky: :) [14:54] alisonken1home: sounds good to me lol [14:54] trying to get back into the bed [14:54] compl3x: Aye. One of the advantages of slackbuild scripts is that you don't have to remember 5 months down the line, what arcane $setting you used to make it compile. [14:54] alisonken1home: ok... this isn't fair, please dont talk about peanut butter cup ice cream infront of me [14:54] tecky: someone of a compilation of the wife and me [14:55] s/someone/somewhat/ [14:55] BP{k}: haha yeah I do love it, when I want to rebuild somethign with a different config , I remove the old package and rebuild the slackbuild with my own config - works a charm. [14:55] alisonken1home: so your a he|she??? [14:55] that's what slackbuilds are all about ^^ [14:55] something* [14:55] compl3x: :) [14:56] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [14:56] hey edman007 [14:56] :O edman?? [14:56] you know what i think i'm gonna blow this install out and install slack, just kuz you guys pissed me off! :P [14:56] oh sheet, edman007's here [14:56] good [14:56] run! [14:56] Action: fluxnuk3r has an annoying customer who goes by "edman" [14:57] you dont live in indiana do you... [14:57] Action: compl3x is called eddie [14:57] tecky: slack32 or slack64? [14:57] greetings edman007 long time no see [14:57] alisonken1home: dont know atm ... runing a Q6600 ... so either is doable [14:57] fluxnuk3r: nah, he doesn't. He's in Florida right now. He graduated college. :) [14:58] tecky: im also running a Q6600 @ 3.8ghz :) [14:58] slack 13 is in prerelease mode, so expect a new release soon [14:58] lol. kk [14:58] compl3x: i hate you! [14:58] :p [14:58] oo. hostility [14:58] alisonken1home: uhm... say what? [14:58] don't spread hate, spread love. :P [14:58] compl3x: i'm running a Dell 530n :) [14:58] firebird619: ;) [14:58] Nick change: hackedhead_ -> hackedhead [14:58] its a linux box with no windows <3 on it [14:58] why can't we all just get along. :P [14:59] BP{k}: usually the changelog say "current" - both slack32 and slack64 changelogs now say "pre-release" [14:59] because you said we were all poopie [14:59] Action: compl3x doesn't have windows on any of his box's [14:59] whtn that happens, the next release is due somewhere in the next 3 months [14:59] Action: fluxnuk3r wants 12.3 :/ [14:59] im still using 12.1 [14:59] compl3x: you running 64bit? [14:59] 12.2 did crap to my computer [15:00] tecky: nope - not going to till it has multilib [15:00] I've got an 8.0 box, a 10.1 box and multiple 12.0/12.1 boxes running [15:00] compl3x: how do you see the cpu util in 12.2 @ 32bit? [15:00] tecky? [15:00] compl3x: ? [15:00] tecky: Im running current 32 bit [15:00] what exactly did 12.2 do to your computer? [15:01] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-224.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] compl3x: once again, how do you see the cpu utilization in 12.2 @ 32bit? [15:01] nothing worked. drivers, nothing. it was weird [15:01] alisonken1home: hmm I don't know where you see that. I don't. I just checked osuosl.org. [15:01] tecky: Oh I think I understand you now, it works flawlessly if thats what you mean [15:01] got on here, nobody knew what to do. so i downgraded [15:01] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-205.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:01] compl3x: not exactly, but ... i'll take it as a answer [15:01] :p [15:02] BP{k}: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=x86_64 - title "Current (pre-release) ChangeLog for x86_64" [15:03] BP{k}: "Current (pre-release) ChangeLog for x86 (32-bit)" [15:03] hmmm. anyone in here in england? [15:03] fluxnuk3r: I am. [15:03] alisonken1home: uhm okay. I don't take that as a sign of anything. [15:03] so is Zordrak and BP{k} [15:03] what time is it? [15:03] 20.03 [15:03] 20:02 [15:03] BP{k}: whatever :p [15:03] ah [15:03] dive sucks. :/ [15:04] considering that there is *no* release candidate announced.... [15:04] BP{k}: my experience over the last 4 years of a subscription usually indicates when current changes to prerelease, expect the cd's in the next 3 months [15:04] heh two people today asked if they could slackpkg upgrade to 64 bit :p [15:04] fluxnuk3r: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/ [15:05] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-121-241.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:06] alisonken1home: Fair enough, that is possible. Personally, I'll beleive it, when Patrick announces RC1 on the ChangeLog. :) [15:06] besides we haven't seen the "slackware release fun and games" thread on A.O.L.S. ;) [15:06] BP{k}: :) [15:07] hehe yeah [15:07] BP{k}: that thread usually indicates "hey.. heads up" [15:07] hi tecky The-Croupier fluxnuk3r firebird619 [15:08] how's it going edman007? [15:08] so...my brother got stung by a stingray...and wants to know what to do... [15:08] oh dear, Dominian's back from /away :X [15:08] i think its a stingray anyways [15:08] run! [15:08] catch it and go to the hospiral [15:08] it's not a big deal as long as he is not experiencing a serious allergic reaction [15:09] it's not a big deal as long as he didn't get stabbed in the heart [15:09] edman007: use hot water. the venom is heat sensitive [15:10] antiwire, they've made some crazy changes man [15:10] btw, for jellies use vinegar [15:10] i dunno what else to do ;) [15:10] hmmmm, hdmi 1.4 [15:10] antiwire, alright...thanks [15:11] alisonken1home: the changelog page has always said "pre-release" [15:11] really though, as long as his airways aren't swelling or his heart rate is just going nuts, he's most likely fine [15:11] alienBOB: not from what I've seen - I usually see current, followed by prerelease [15:12] alisonken1home: thats what it does say [15:12] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [15:12] compl3x: it says that now, yes. that's what I pointed out earlier [15:13] alisonken1home: as alienBOB says - its always said pre-release [15:13] atleast im 99.9999% sure [15:13] alienBOB: didn't we have this discussion some time ago? :) [15:13] if you're not 100% sure, go back and prepare =p [15:13] there was a variance between reading the text file vs. reading the webpage [15:14] Necos: shhhush :p [15:14] edman007: http://www.wikihow.com/Treat-a-Stingray-Sting [15:15] ^^v [15:17] any one use mencoder on the cl to rip dvds... im failing miserably [15:18] jeev_: what the hell [15:18] lol finger slipped [15:18] ;D [15:18] alisonken1home: a cached snapshot (jan 2008) of the page in archive.org shows the "pre-release" text: http://web.archive.org/web/20080105052536/http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 [15:19] http://www.grabup.com/uploads/240ccede5360b093dbf298f8946025a5.png?direct [15:20] GoyInSocks: and what happens if we click that? [15:20] sostra (n=sostra@highspeed-205-244-253-96.peoplestelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] hi alienBOB :) [15:21] alienBOB: intresting - I must be groggy this week from changing shifts the last couple of weeks [15:21] alienBOB: looks like it displays a picture [15:21] alienBOB: although I'm not loading it in FF.. did it with links to make sure it wasn't trying to download something else [15:22] it's an image [15:22] it's pretty lame too [15:23] edman007: thats how the crocidile hunter stever irwin died... [15:23] dyn0myt3: ...he took the sting to the heart though. that's different than the typical sting locations [15:24] anyway - off to try and get some sleep before the rest of the family get's home [15:24] it's really not a big deal, provided the person does not experience any breathing for heart rate issues [15:24] for/or [15:24] alisonken1home: send alison back! [15:24] dyn0myt3, yea, i know [15:24] firebird619, thanks [15:24] tecky: alison doesn't do linux :) [15:24] which includes iirc channels [15:25] alisonken1home: oh, then you need to find a new wife/fiancee/girlfriend [15:25] edman007: yw. [15:26] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.149.128) joined ##slackware. [15:27] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) joined ##slackware. [15:39] omfg... [15:39] lunarpages doesn't have POSIX installed [15:43] hmmmm ight ... wish me luck, going for the install of slackware :\ [15:43] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:43] gd you firebird619, edman007!!! [15:43] you don't need luck [15:43] just time :) [15:43] ha! [15:43] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-120-17.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Action: edman007 waves [15:44] tecky: you don't need luck, just the slackbook and some time [15:44] sostra: i've run slackware before [15:44] ight, becoming unlazy [15:44] bbl [15:45] I wish I could become unlazy [15:45] lol [15:45] have fun [15:45] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:45] eviljames: me2 ( [15:45] i haz excuse though, 48min on d/l :p [15:48] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [15:48] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:48] i haz slackware64 so no excuses for me... [15:49] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:49] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:49] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Action: The-Croupier im happy its my first time i use a AV in linux [15:49] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [15:49] is there anything else apart from clamav? [15:50] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.116.159) left irc: "K N I T E F O R C E" [15:50] yes. [15:50] yes [15:50] avg, kaspersky, f-prot, avira all have linux scanners [15:50] clamav is not relaly for scanning though, its geared more towards email plugins for worm defense [15:51] i think nod32 does linux server scanning too [15:51] sophos is another. there's over a dozen [15:51] i see... what is recommended with slackware? [15:52] hello ananke [15:52] Depends on what you want The-Croupier [15:52] The-Croupier, that's a dumb question [15:52] The-Croupier: are you running a mail server or a windows file server? [15:52] DeeeeP_: i know [15:52] The-Croupier: don't really need an av, but if you want to protect your windows friends, i'd suggest just scanning your email with clamav [15:52] "antivir avast avastd avg bitdefender clamav clamd clamavmodule command css drweb etrust f-prot f-secure generic inoculan inoculate kaspersky-4.5 kaspersky kavdaemonclient mcafee nod32-1.99 nod32 none norman panda rav sophos sophossavi symscanengine trend vexira" [15:52] DeeeeP_: no its not, you dickweed [15:52] Action: alienBOB scans all his IMAP server's incoming/outgoing email with clamav & spamassassin [15:53] Action: ananke just parsed mailscanner's config [15:53] sostra, yes it is [15:53] alienBOB: and spamassasin [15:53] The-Croupier: i just now used fprot and vexira to clean up a windows machine through a trinity livecd [15:53] sostra, what's best for slackware and not for any other distro then ? [15:54] DeeeeP_: way to be an arse and yet miss the question, do go away please [15:54] DeeeeP_: i ment, which one would work better without needing to make much with slackware with no complications [15:54] The-Croupier: hope that helped, you have a specific purpose in mind? [15:54] The-Croupier: clamav is the only open source scanner if that matters [15:54] now u asking for a specific purpose , u dumb ass [15:55] sostra: yes, at work..there was this external,ethernet connected hdd and was full of viruses [15:55] ... [15:55] tought slackware was enough for you [15:55] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:55] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Otherwise buy a good commercial one like Kaspersky [15:55] alienBOB: i understand ;) [15:55] The-Croupier: yep, just did the same thing [15:55] The-Croupier: honestly, i would grab something like trinity, and use that [15:56] sostra: i have one of those trinity livecds as well ;) i think i should start getting to know my livecds [15:56] you load it up, call a script and it automagicals out [15:56] beats installing stuff [15:56] sostra: sounds like fu n ;) [15:56] The-Croupier: if you have a machine with really low amounts of ram, i can see that not being a good option though [15:56] i need to find a way to connect to my hdd though ;) never done that before [15:57] 4gb ram ;) i think it would be ok [15:57] haha :) [15:57] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [15:59] speaking of which, ananke you have a moment? [15:59] stew (i=1413@freenode/staff/stew) joined ##slackware. [15:59] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] actually nvm [16:01] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.32.54) joined ##slackware. [16:02] caio (n=caio@190.244.32.54) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:02] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] Guest77043 (n=eddie@pool-162-83-144-194.ny5030.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:07] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@78.176.59.234) joined ##slackware. [16:07] RELAX! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzvKhDejPFQ&feature=related [16:07] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.32.54) left irc: "leaving" [16:09] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [16:09] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:14] goodnight guys.. really tired stayed up till 6am updating slackware ;) and went straight to work at 7.20... [16:15] thanks again sostra [16:15] thanks guys ;) seeya soon [16:18] <|ast|> slack 13.0 feature? [16:19] |ast|: im sorry? [16:20] <|ast|> date slack 13.0? [16:20] |ast|: when it's ready. [16:20] when its ready [16:20] <|ast|> ok [16:20] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:20] |ast|: you been doing the same for like 2days now [16:20] Action: sostra buys BP{k} a coke [16:20] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.106) joined ##slackware. [16:20] The-Croupier: go sleeps :D [16:21] and you got the same response for 2days [16:21] hi \o [16:21] sostra: i cannot...slackware looks like is pulling me [16:21] it does that [16:21] my laptop is just too much to leave alone [16:21] hey SlackLnx [16:21] hiya SlackLnx [16:22] |ast|: why don't you bookmark: "http://www.slackware.com/faq/do_faq.php?faq=general#5" next time you have the same question you can look it up there. [16:22] toasty burn [16:22] i tried going to sleep.. then realised i have stuff to learn...and i cannot stay up ...but i really want to finish something more [16:22] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] it will always be that way [16:23] niko_ (n=niko@adsl-75-60-14-76.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:23] sostra: i will never sleep then ;) (well ill try anyway) [16:23] just don't compile a kernel drunk [16:23] i miss being lazy and ubuntu [16:23] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:23] where i can find slackware64 iso ?? [16:23] sostra: did that already a year back [16:23] i've doen that several times, and never learned from my mistakes [16:24] SlackLnx: any mirror. [16:24] Action: sostra reccomends slackware.no [16:24] SlackLnx: slackware doesn't release official iso's of -current. [16:24] SlackLnx: goto slackware.com get slackware site ;) [16:24] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/ [16:24] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.117.50) joined ##slackware. [16:25] going to sleep now... goodnight [16:25] Action: The-Croupier sleeping but reading with one eye open [16:25] night! [16:25] lol [16:25] Cubey (n=Cubey@h134.11.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] replay (n=replay@69.26.205.171) joined ##slackware. [16:26] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:26] there!! [16:26] /bin/sh: /etc/slackware-version: Permission denied [16:26] erm stupid perms [16:27] Linux Firefly 2.6.27.7-smp #2 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:32:43 CST 2008 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [16:27] owned. [16:27] It is not a scrpt tecky [16:27] hello.. someone help me out here, i can't recall what it's called when you want to move a file/directory and have a reference so an app won't complain about the file/directory missing.. [16:27] alienBOB when the hell did they change it? [16:27] Never tecky [16:27] Cubey: sof link. [16:27] wasn't it a flat text file? [16:27] Cubey: ssymbolic links [16:27] ahh yes, thanks! [16:27] tecky: it is. [16:27] "When did they change it" thats just an excuse for failing [16:28] Cubey: ln s sir [16:28] michiel@hades:~$ file /etc/slackware-version [16:28] /etc/slackware-version: ASCII text [16:28] * ln -s [16:28] stupid hyphen [16:28] well ' /exec -o cat /etc/slackware-version ' didn't work [16:28] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [16:28] tecky: cat /etc/slackware-version ? [16:29] Slackware 12.2.0 [16:29] wfm [16:29] sostra: Actually, I want to do it in Windows (it is possible) but sadly, the folks in a windows channel didn't know what i was talking about. ;) I've done it in both linux and windows though, but the term for it escaped me ;) [16:29] Action: sostra is a woman [16:29] Action: sostra jumps on BP{k} [16:29] ummm [16:29] right [16:29] Cubey: gotcha [16:29] Anyhoo, thanks again. :) [16:30] Cubey (n=Cubey@h134.11.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left ##slackware. [16:30] Cubey: take care sir [16:31] wtf [16:32] VanRoy1 (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] this sprite zero says "Phenylketonurics: Contains Phenylaline so i look it up and tis like found naturally in the breast milk of mammals and manufactured for food and drink products and are also sold as nutritional supplements for their reputed analgesic and antidepressant effects. Phenylalanine is structurally closely related to dopamine, epinephrine (adrenaline) and tyrosine. [16:32] brb [16:32] messed up. [16:32] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "10 million strong and growing!" [16:32] thats aspartame for ya [16:32] GoyInSocks: ever drink those energy drinks? Red Bull, Monster, etc? [16:32] aspartame is the debbil. [16:32] slakmagi1 (n=j@adsl-162-154-241.rmo.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] GoyInSocks there are so many jokes here [16:33] sostra> ? [16:33] Action: sostra whistles innocently [16:35] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:35] sostra> whatever [16:36] nope still laughing [16:36] sostra> tell meeeeeee [16:36] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:36] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:36] Nick change: slakmagi1 -> slakmagik [16:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Operation timed out [16:36] whats with the '>' at the end of my name [16:37] sostra> its a message to u [16:37] wierd [16:37] sostra: just a different charachter most peple use ":" [16:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:39] blaguvest (n=blaguves@c-28a072d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:42] Some use <, which I find to be really confusing. [16:42] BP{k}< don't you? [16:42] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) joined ##slackware. [16:42] what file is awk [16:42] it seems like i need it to od anything [16:42] niko_: what? [16:42] niko_: bin/awk [16:42] well yeah... [16:43] mmmk [16:43] eviljames$%*%$$%"!$£%: sure! ;) [16:43] man awk [16:43] idk why it can't find it [16:43] which awk [16:43] idk, jsut a sec [16:43] no [16:44] type "which awk" or "which gawk" at the command line [16:44] which: no awk in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin) [16:44] what about gawk (GNU awk) [16:44] how do i need to configure that to work correctly [16:45] gawk? [16:45] it's another implementation of awk. [16:45] VanRoy1 (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Leaving." [16:45] okay [16:45] i get the same thing [16:45] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:45] niko_: go do a full install [16:46] and stop removing things [16:46] i jsut did [16:46] niko_: ls -la /var/log/packages/gawk* [16:46] it is a full install [16:46] all libs [16:46] Full install of what niko_ ? [16:46] there are a couple thigns not there but they are not relevant [16:46] then your media is jacked up, also awk is not a lib [16:46] slackware [16:46] Slackware? Or a Slackware derivative? [16:46] its part of the standard shell, and its a prorgamming language [16:46] flat out slackware [16:47] Full install meaning install from the DVD, or from all 3 CDROM's or just from CD 1 ? [16:47] well i guess i better get awk [16:47] a dvd [16:47] gawk is in the main package series (a/) [16:47] Then you do not have a full install [16:47] Or you did not install Slackware [16:47] niko_: what's the output of 1) "ls -la /var/log/packages/gawk*" and 2) cat /etc/sl*ion [16:47] just a sec [16:49] that should take less than a second [16:49] slackware is 12.2 [16:49] first command is being werid [16:49] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-130.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] uhhuh. [16:49] no file [16:49] i mean directory [16:49] so i needa grab that [16:49] copy paste that to a pastebin [16:50] all of it [16:50] shell type included [16:50] it's jsut a normal no such file or directory [16:50] vampire (n=david@196.201.152.20) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] niko_: if someone ask you to execute those commands; they usually want the exact output back, not some kind of narrative. [16:51] GoyInSocks (n=chowabun@c-24-126-161-100.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/gawk*: No such file or directory [16:52] guess it's a cannot access [16:52] niko_: and the other command? [16:52] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [16:52] Slackware 12.2.0 [16:53] well you don't have a full install, that is all that I can say. [16:54] okay [16:54] i will try to tack it on for now [16:54] BP{k}: quacks like one too [16:55] jkroll (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:55] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [16:56] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:56] ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/gawk: No such file or directory [16:56] i have same apparently [16:56] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [16:56] jkroll (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:56] dyn0myt3: gawk*... [16:57] jkroll (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:57] works better if you grep it [16:57] thx :) [16:57] ls /var/log/packages | grep gawk [16:57] ls /var/log/packages |grep XXX [16:58] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:58] okay, jsut dled and installed the package [16:59] shoudl eb good now [17:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [17:01] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:02] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] hey firebird619 [17:03] hrmph [17:03] this is too wierd, back in slackware again... *hums* [17:03] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-205.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] VanRoy1 (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] hey compl3x [17:05] bigfoot traks were found in my back yard! ;p [17:05] pic [17:05] pictures or it isn't true. :P [17:06] not literally, just somewhere in my part of the state [17:06] firebird619, he's not lying! [17:06] Pig_Pen: cool. [17:06] someone on the radio (local news) said they found bigfoot tracks [17:06] jkroll: I said that jokingly, I didn't say he was. [17:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Pig_Pen: There's your weekend mission, find big foot. :P [17:07] i hope i find bigfoot first and introduce him to Slackware Linux before those ubuntards or windows fanboys corrupt him [17:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [17:07] haha [17:07] lol [17:07] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-165-202.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:08] haha! [17:08] Wha.....bigfoot runs vista? :P [17:08] THe fun of DOSbox on slackware64 is that it is capable of running 32bit good old DOOM2 setup :-) Who'd have thought [17:08] explains why he has never been seen in the wild, firebird619 [17:08] bigfoot? he probably runs away from vista [17:09] sostra: haha, yeah. He BSOD'ed somewhere. [17:09] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.15.49) joined ##slackware. [17:09] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [17:09] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.15.49) left ##slackware. [17:10] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:12] vampire (n=david@196.201.152.20) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:15] firebird619: its still doing the update >.< [17:15] chess (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess) left irc: "Darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye" [17:17] chess (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess) joined ##slackware. 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[18:25] no [18:25] this is simply designed to be a troll question [18:25] there is no answer for it [18:25] sYk0 (i=zachary@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [18:25] I'm well aware of it, yet it might have some insight to it :-p [18:25] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-220-153.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] If you want to use it, great. If you don't want to use it or try it for yourself you're only going to get opinions as reasons and no one really gives a hoot if you use it or not [18:27] I've been using it over a couple of years, that's not the case anyway. [18:27] why don't you just analyze your own experiences then [18:28] you'll end up with an answer better suited for yourself that [18:28] way [18:28] neuro_sys: It's used by arrogant control freaks who believe themselves the epitome of genius [18:29] that's about the best answer anyone in here can give for that type of question anyway [18:29] neuro_sys: use Slackware because you have a choice [18:29] neuro_sys: Which is why automagic dependency resolution and updates are a stupid waste of time, because someone less smart than the admin of a Slackware box is trying to push it on them. [18:29] nobody is going to kiss your ass to get you to use slack, either use it or dont, because personally i could care less if you use it or not [18:29] Alright, simply the control issue. as I've guessed. [18:29] neuro_sys: as an example, anyhow :P [18:29] Control is key [18:29] We don't have cars that drive themselves [18:30] well even I do not care whether I use it or not, why you bother? [18:30] That would be foolish, at best! [18:30] http://www.keyboardforblondes.com/keyboard_bigger.html [18:31] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:31] There's an on going distro wars out there, which I find kind of unnecessary, as you can modify any distribution out there to suit your needs. [18:31] Distro war? [18:31] lol [18:31] freebsd for life! [18:31] osol4evarrr [18:32] but i'm having terrible snmpd problems.. with net-snmp and bsnmpd, i think it's my nic [18:32] te_ (n=te@adsl-68-94-220-153.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:32] There's an on going religion wars out there, which I find kind of unnecessary, as you can modify any religion out there to suit your needs." [18:32] amazon10x: see? almost the same issue [18:32] There's an on going car war out there, which I find kind of unnecessary, as you can modify any car out there to suit your needs. [18:33] all 3 of these wars are equally pointless. [18:33] "There's an on going distro wars out there, which I find kind of unnecessary, as you can modify any distribution out there to suit your needs. [18:33] lol [18:33] oops [18:33] what's used by elitist control freaks? [18:33] "There's an on going car war out there, which I find kind of unnecessary, as you can modify any car out there to suit your needs. [18:33] darnit. wth is wrong with my paste [18:33] alright, I take it to be an issue of BoB and Slack, then. [18:34] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-220-153.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:35] There's an on going sexual orientation war out there, which I find kind of unnecessary, as you can modify any sexual orientation out there to suit your needs.i really loled from the wars lines [18:35] haha [18:35] brb, gotta take a huge ubuntu. [18:36] don't forget to "make clean" when you're done... [18:36] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-202-233.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] *** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.10.1. [18:37] *** KDE requires automake 1.6.1 or newer [18:37] this is why computers will never really rule the world like in the terminator movies... [18:38] someone did a string compare instead of an int compare [18:38] *** YOU'RE HUNTING: John Connor *** YOU FOUND: John Conn0r. No Match. Do Not Terminate. [18:38] yep. And computers are as yet too dumb to fix it themselves... [18:39] don't tell john connor that [18:40] pouet :) [18:40] pouet? [18:40] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] poulet? [18:41] nope, like "pouette" :) [18:42] what does that mean? [18:42] doesn't really mean anything, it's just the sound :) [18:43] what? [18:43] and I'm not sure it's that easy to pronounce as english :) [18:44] Camarade_Tux: I have no idea how. [18:44] "po-oo-t"? [18:44] Camarade_Tux: nor in Spanish [18:44] lol [18:44] no like fooey [18:44] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-40-197.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:44] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [18:45] pooète [18:45] the meaning is nicely summed in "Tralala Pouet Pouet!!" :) [18:46] yht (n=yht@114.121.62.156) left irc: "I must go.." [18:46] Guest61977 (n=edman007@c-76-101-155-11.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:46] reverso says it's the sound of a klaxon :) [18:46] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [18:46] I think it sounds like "pwet" [18:46] (I think klaxon is hooter) [18:46] eviljames, that works too :) [18:47] a klaxon is an alarm like those old WW2 air raid sirens [18:47] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-202-233.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:47] haha :p [18:47] eviljames: ah. [18:47] hooter = female breast :) [18:47] in french, klaxon is what you have on a car :) [18:48] what, a horn? [18:48] Camarade_Tux: so a horn. [18:48] Urchlay, hmmm, just like in a car, when you're nervous, you feel like playing with your hooter... :D [18:48] thumbs, ok, noted :) [18:49] I always feel like playing with a hooter:) [18:49] I never feel like playing with my hooters. [18:49] thumbs, who said playing with *yours* ? :) [18:50] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [18:51] that was a joke [18:51] a good one too:) [18:51] :D getting too late for me to get anything I guess ;) [18:51] I don't mind playing with thumbs' hooters every so often. [18:52] I mean, I've seen better and all [18:52] but they're nice. ample, even. [18:52] stop it [18:52] videos posted please so I can have nightmares [18:52] hahaha [18:52] :-) [18:53] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-202-233.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:59] have to wake up in six hours, good night :à [18:59] s/à/)/ [18:59] shes like [18:59] old [18:59] nite nite [18:59] I assume she's not involved in equesteri... however you spell horseback riding [18:59] she is [18:59] works a ranch [18:59] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:00] damn, as a professional guttermind I figured (hoped?) that was going somewhere else.. [19:00] as did I [19:00] lol, good thing i altered the name you sickos [19:00] heh-heh [19:01] Well, in the guttermind sense, there's no way I'd've been able to disagree with her. [19:01] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:01] Action: sostra facepalms [19:01] However, in the horseback riding sense... well.. I have testicles. [19:01] lol [19:01] I'm sure they're very nice [19:01] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-202-233.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:02] hitest: one seems a little misshapen, it doesn't resemble the kde "add widget" button at all! [19:02] ROFL [19:02] LMAO [19:03] it doesn't resemble the gnome logo does it? :P [19:03] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [19:03] HAHAHAHA [19:04] Talking the way I do can lead to getting kicked in the nuts [19:04] but no. [19:04] haha [19:04] hehe [19:05] http://www.odesk.com/users/FreeBSD-GNU-Linux-SysAdmin-Script-Server-Apps-Programmer_~~e2621bce5ac0fd0a [19:05] no wonder comp jobs get offshored [19:05] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [19:06] why? $19 / hr isn't that cheap [19:06] cheap enough [19:06] i would expect 30+ for a consultant [19:06] good luck [19:06] Action: sostra knows consultants that make 70 - 90/h [19:07] don't need luck, its common [19:07] $30 / hr is *not* common in this economy [19:07] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:08] in *your* economy maybe, where i live, we are still sheltered [19:08] never really got hurt as badly as everyone else [19:08] k [19:09] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:11] consultant translates, typically, to "not talented enough for a real job" :> [19:11] haha [19:11] you do realize that 18/h is only 35K right [19:12] wow. [19:12] 35K/year is not bad. [19:12] yeah, I agree it's a low, but not outrageous currently; there are a TON of people who would take that currently [19:12] In Canada, a single working adult male makes (on average) $28K [19:12] I do consultant work [19:13] Action: hackedhead would. [19:13] Typical working family of 5 makes $72K (approx) [19:13] (that is 2 parents combined income + children) [19:13] So really 35K is not bad at all. [19:13] thats fucked up [19:13] :( [19:14] you're still in school, I guess ? [19:14] Not really. [19:14] In America the average in 2007 was $40k [19:14] rki (n=rki@unaffiliated/rki) joined ##slackware. [19:14] touche [19:14] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:14] 40K > 35K though, thats at least enouhgh to have an apt where i live [19:14] eviljames: we are in america, too. [19:14] COLA is killing [19:14] that was also two years ago... 0_o [19:15] shit, for the price of apt here,k you might as well buy a house [19:15] hackedhead: That was the most recent year I could immediately find data for. :P [19:15] it would cost less [19:15] um, $18/hr is plenty for an apartment [19:15] people live on much less [19:15] yes [19:15] yes they do [19:15] now add 2 kids [19:15] 18/h would suck [19:15] yeah [19:15] thumbs: I don't follow that last one.. [19:15] antiwire: it was a joke, of course :) [19:15] and a loving wife to run up your credit bills :D [19:15] anyone unlock a Tmobile G1 in here? [19:15] eviljames: amrica is the continent. Canada is part of the continent [19:16] sYk0: got abuddy that did [19:16] thumbs: North America :D [19:16] thumbs: Pedantry, eh? I believe North America is the continent... [19:16] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) joined ##slackware. [19:16] sYk0: whatcha need [19:16] eviljames: Yes, North America is the continent. [19:16] sostra: Do you know if it was relatively painless, since I'm wanting to get a TMobile G1 on AT&T [19:16] Hey thumbs [19:16] sYk0: easy as pie [19:16] sYk0: technically, America is also a common term that groups North, South and Central america [19:16] firebird619: hello. [19:16] sostra: I was considering getting one, and that was the deciding factor :D [19:16] eviljames: it's a pet peeve of mine. [19:17] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] sYk0: if you want to know a more about it, bug loganthered, hes at work now though [19:17] sYk0: i know its easy as hell, like flashing a router almost [19:17] sYk0: however, tmo is generally pretty cool about giving unlock codes.. [19:17] sostra: thank you, I appreciate it [19:17] sYk0: cheers, have fun with it - its a great phone [19:18] thumbs: So you'd prefer [19:18] bryanlharris_ (n=bharris@xob.neospire.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] woops [19:18] sostra: I was considering an HTC phone [19:18] eviljames: in the USA, in the "United States of America" [19:18] thumbs: you mean "Empire" [19:19] sostra: no. [19:19] yes. [19:19] OH FOOD [19:19] bbl [19:19] lol [19:20] niko_ (n=niko@adsl-75-60-14-76.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] firebird619: buenas tardes senor [19:20] Nick change: zErOaCid -> snewp [19:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426562.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:21] is there any alternative to gparted? [19:21] for slackware [19:22] bbl folks [19:22] some hdd management utility [19:22] como estas thumbs [19:22] compl3x: muy bien, y tu? [19:22] hi i'm trying to install portsentry on my slackware 12.2 but i'm gettin this error: http://pastebin.ca/1438733 ... any ideas? [19:22] thumbs: good afternoon. :) [19:22] thumbs: muy buena gracias [19:22] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:22] y0 compl3x [19:22] sup firebird619 [19:23] nm, you? It's a perfect day out today. It's awesome. [19:23] firebird619: its 0:22 am here :p [19:23] haha [19:23] It's 18:22 here [19:23] its friday for me :p [19:24] Thursday for me Mr. Speedy Gonzalez jumping a day ahead. :P [19:24] haha [19:24] you can't get to the weekend fast enough eh? [19:24] :P [19:24] 16:22 here! [19:24] compl3x: what's friday like? any good? [19:24] hahaha [19:25] amazon10x: not sure yet - im undecided [19:25] Yeah, it's only 20 minutes in.. give it time [19:25] amazon10x: depends on where you're at on Friday. For compl3x, the gf is away so he's gonna have a party. :P [19:25] firebird619: as far as I know, 18:22 is the evening. [19:25] darnit, this dvd rip is pissing me off. [19:25] Ah well, afternoon, evening, it's all in the same day, just different sections of it. [19:26] So, Good Day sir. [19:26] :P [19:26] maintenance on my server was supposed to start on the hour. it's 25 minutes past, and it's still responding to ping [19:26] heh im just chilling out watching american pie 2 [19:26] lol [19:26] thumbs: you're doing it wrong. :P [19:27] i think i'm going to start reading this book called A Game of Universe [19:27] it'll be the first time i've read a book in a looooooooong time [19:27] firebird619: I had to harcode the FPS to 24 [19:27] I'm eating and listening to the radio. :D [19:27] firebird619: I wouldn't advise eating AND listening to the radio [19:27] Nick change: sYk0 -> zGhost [19:27] compl3x: Why? [19:27] firebird619: usually results in eating the radio [19:27] :O [19:28] orly? [19:28] firebird619: yuhuh [19:28] firebird619: 23.97 lead to the sound out of sync [19:28] Well my radio is a Stereo, that would suck. :P [19:28] printed on the radio: Donotz eats me kthxbai [19:28] firebird619: reaaaaaaaaaaly weird. [19:28] thumbs: indeed. [19:28] good luck [19:28] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.142.19) joined ##slackware. [19:28] firebird619: this small sample is perfect at 24. [19:28] firebird619: it's a 3-hours ep, so it takes a LONG time to rip [19:29] I bet. hope you get it working how you want. [19:29] what about 240000:1001 ? [19:29] thumbs: thats kind of ironic [19:29] oh, I started it. Thank you. [19:29] "3 hour EP" [19:29] just slightly off from the 23.97 no? [19:29] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:29] eviljames: just enough to have out of sync audio. [19:29] ooh, that would drive me nuts. [19:30] eviljames: and dvdrip does not take 24000:1001 as a parameter. [19:30] Action: eviljames clues in [19:30] I should pay more attention, I thought you were going the other way [19:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [19:30] lol [19:30] eviljames: it's an old dvd, from 2005 [19:30] because tovid does, and I believe it passes that forward to ffmpeg [19:30] Action: firebird619 slaps eviljames, WAKE UP. [19:30] eviljames: all the new stuff uses 23.97 [19:30] firebird619: NO. I'M GOING HOME! [19:30] eviljames: sweet [19:31] is there anyone here using 12.2 and SBo's qt4 package? [19:31] Action: compl3x thinks of cartman [19:31] Urchlay: me [19:31] Urchlay, yeah [19:31] eviljames: if it weren't for dvdrip's input box, I couldn't change the frame rate. [19:31] firebird619, yosii, can you guys test something for me? [19:31] Urchlay, maybe [19:31] Urchlay, what's up? [19:31] thumbs: duly noted. I've got a dvd collection that needs ripping soon, I may come at you for some advice [19:31] Urchlay: what would you like tested? [19:31] the problem is that the dvds on the market are not consistent. [19:31] but really I'm leaving for a while... bbl [19:31] http://downloads.sourceforge.net/qmc2/qmc2-0.2.b8.tar.bz2 <--- see if that compiles [19:31] eviljames: sure, anytime. [19:31] eviljames: later [19:32] it's a frontend for MAME, but it'll compile without MAME being installed [19:32] firebird619: two passes take ~2 hours on this laptop [19:33] wow [19:33] dvd ripping is not for the impatient. [19:34] if you get "wrong qmake version" errors, try editing arch/default.cfg and change "QMAKE = qmake" to "QMAKE = qmake-qt4" [19:34] the problem is that it only uses one core, too. [19:34] I could, theorically, rip two movies at the same time! [19:34] that's too bad, you could get done faster otherwise. [19:36] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] Urchlay: this is what I get: Project ERROR: Qt is insufficient -- Qt 4.4.0+ required [19:36] greetings and salutations [19:36] Greetings andarius, how are you? [19:36] andarius: howdy. [19:36] Salutations firebird619. I am well, you ? [19:36] salutations thumbs [19:37] Urchlay: yet I have the latest qt from SBo, which is, iirc 4.5. [19:37] andarius: doing excellent, thank you. :) [19:37] I have just started using slackpkg and sbopkg, too. [19:37] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] I can't believe I have managed boxes without it. [19:37] Urchlay: qt4-4.5.1-i486-1_SBo [19:38] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] thumbs: just started? what'd you use before [19:38] firebird619: I did it manually, and checked the changelog. [19:38] firebird619: wget, upgradepkg [19:38] Ah, I see. That works too. :) [19:39] too time consuming. [19:39] yeah [19:39] Does the old 'stick to a single page' resume tactic still hold? [19:39] antiwire: not really. [19:40] It's tough to fit everything into one page [19:40] depends on the position, generaly 2 or less [19:40] antiwire: if your resume fits on one page, it's less than impressive. Two pages is better [19:40] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: "Leaving" [19:40] firebird619: right, because it's using qmake instead of qmake-qt4 I think... try editing qcm2/arch/default.cfg, change qmake to qmake-qt4, see if that helps [19:40] if you're just out of college then one page could be possible [19:40] Urchlay: will do. [19:40] most technical positions will require a sufficient number of previous positions, qualifications, and other items. [19:40] how far back should one generally go? [19:41] if that fits on one page, you will be underqualified. [19:41] 10yrs max [19:41] thumbs: i would disagree [19:41] Urchlay: same thing. [19:41] but don't put something stupid/unrelated on it. if you worked at mcdonals 5 yrs ago making burgers, you should probably leave it off [19:42] it heavily depends on how it is written [19:42] someone should throw up a resume so we can critique it :D [19:42] i continue to hear the single page schtick. [19:43] I cannot fix all my background (the relevant part) on one page. Period. [19:43] amazon10x: tempting =P [19:43] niko_ (n=niko@adsl-75-60-14-76.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:43] hackedhead: i've heard it a ton for the college crowd, but generally people coming out of college haven't done anything to merit more than one page [19:44] fair enough [19:44] firebird619: hm. do you have $ARCH set in your environment? [19:45] try "OSCFG=0 make" [19:46] er, or better "make OSCFG=0" [19:46] Urchlay: that's doing something. :) [19:46] formatting your HD :| [19:46] :O [19:47] that's with the default.cfg edited to say qmake-qt4 instead of qmake? [19:47] Urchlay: yes [19:48] OK, nice. One last thing to try and I'll quit bugging you... after this compile finishes, blow away the source dir, untar again, and edit arch/default.cfg so it says "QTMAKE = qmake-qt4 || qmake", then do "make OSCFG=0" again & lemme know if it works [19:48] neuro_sys (n=neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [19:48] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.142.19) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [19:48] Urchlay: k [19:49] This one is just sitting at : "[C++ ] qmc2main.cpp" right now. [19:49] yeah, that one takes a while to compile [19:50] ok, that qmc2main.cpp is done [19:50] is there any sense in listing awards along with level of schooling? [19:51] antiwire: what kind of awards [19:52] things like honors in college/uni, various achievement awards from high school [19:52] all related but I just don't know how pertinent they are [19:52] high school should be gone completely, unless you did something like cure cancer while you were there [19:53] amazon10x: but keeping the college and uni qualifications and awards might be ok? [19:53] probably. what i would do is put them on there for now [19:53] and then at the end decide if you should cut them out [19:53] based on overall size of the resume etc [19:53] sounds good thanks for the advice [19:54] what are you formatting the resume with? [19:54] Just OO.o [19:55] like a crackhead [19:55] if you end up having the time/motivation, you could try latex [19:55] it makes for a very sexy looking resume [19:55] i redid mine in the last month or so and went the latex route. i'm quite happy with the results [19:55] I've never had anyone ask me about latex format though [19:56] antiwire: are you still thinking of applying farther north? [19:56] heh, just looked at the IRC window and saw "latex" and "sexy" mentioned together and jumped to entirely the wrong conclusion... [19:56] haha [19:56] haha [19:56] chopp: maybe, I'm open to anything tbh [19:56] antiwire: yes I can understand that. [19:57] antiwire: do you mind if i ask the details surrounding this? e.g., what you're applying for / where you're coming from [19:57] amazon10x: I'm just getting my resume fixed up. I finished Uni about mid way 2008 then quit my job and have been working for myself since ~8/2008 [19:58] Now I sort of want ot see what the real job arena is like [19:58] well, it's an arena. You go out there and if you're lucky, you swordfight. If you're unlucky, you run away from a lion, which eventually catches & eats you [19:59] Honestly, I don't even know what a decent resume is supposed to look like, let alone what it should really contain these days. [20:00] eh, it's been the same for 500 years. just put your skillz on there and some work experience [20:00] are you applying for jobs from job listings? or something [20:00] Is it kosher to list skills attained by self improvement, outside of formal work situations? [20:01] definitely [20:01] amazon10x: yes, I'd like to throw it at some listings and maybe some services [20:01] Action: andarius has a career based on self taught skills ;) [20:01] andarius: sweet [20:02] this guitar i'm trying to play sounds like a dead animal [20:02] Action: compl3x plays guitar =[ [20:02] [=* [20:02] i pretend to be able to play [20:02] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] andarius: I went the formal schooling route but my best friend said fsck it and just went to work immediately out of high school. He's doing great and quite honestly I think he has better skills at actually getting jobs. I think throwing himself into the mess actually helped him in that area. [20:03] i broke the string on my usual guitar so i switched to this old one and it sounds weird. i'll buy some new strings at the shop tomorrow [20:03] rki (n=rki@unaffiliated/rki) left ##slackware. [20:03] antiwire: don't be so sure. even way down the road, it can be a problem not having a degree [20:03] antiwire: for some it is the best way, for others not so. i did not get along with school so it was best for me [20:05] but like andarius said, to each his own. you've already done it, so make the best of it [20:05] waht did you study? [20:05] antiwire: My cousin did the same thing, started working while in high school and has worked his way up in that company and is doing great, no college at all. [20:05] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:06] Urchlay, you have to edit makefile to reference qmake-qt4 instead of qmake [20:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Urchlay, that's what i saw [20:08] Action: compl3x has a transparent eterm running fullscreen on his 52" plasma tv above his head -looks like hes in a film [20:08] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:08] is there a way to get wget to download the contents of an entire directory like all of x in http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/slackware/x/* [20:09] maybe -m [20:09] Pig_Pen: lftp can do that ;) [20:10] yeah, ill give it a try, thanks [20:10] Pig_Pen: something like wget -r -l0 [20:10] man wget <-- all the answers :P [20:11] Pig_Pen: the issue with wget -r is that it's going to grab all those links along the top i think [20:12] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:12] oh wait, i guess do -l1 and then it'll just grab the files right there [20:12] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] Urchlay: using "QTMAKE = qmake-qt4 || qmake" causes: Error: Wrong Qmake version. Qmake version 2 (Qt 4) required! [20:17] well wtf then [20:17] suppose I better hit the sack - night yall [20:17] night compl3x [20:17] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [20:18] ehm. you using QMAKE? cause it's supposed to be QMAKE (probably my fault) [20:18] QMAKE = qmake-qt4 || qmake [20:18] in qmc2/arch/default.cfg [20:19] then you compile with "make OSCFG=0" [20:19] if that don't work, eh, well screwit for now, will mess with it later [20:20] (someone is in the basement playing some pretty sweet lead guitar, so I kinda want to go listen...) [20:22] Urchlay: yeah, I used QMAKE. 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[20:32] yummy [20:33] wash it down with some warm beer ;p [20:34] haha [20:34] Lastlog: [20:34] (20:54) < tewmten> acidchild: wake up you buttnugget [20:34] (20:59) < Dominian> tewmten: catching acidchild on is somewhat of a gamble hehe [20:35] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:35] any of you guys use psad? [20:35] yep [20:35] good luck finding the patch [20:35] patch-o-matic is fucked [20:35] great. [20:36] acidchild: sounds like you have information that is relative to my needs ;) [20:36] i'm a world of information [20:36] hehe [20:36] can you elaborate on the situation? What is the patch about? [20:37] cool [20:37] that installed just fine for me just now. [20:38] Nick change: willysr -> slackid [20:38] whats sup antiwire? [20:39] you mentioned a patch, is that a patch for iptables or psad? [20:39] iptables. [20:39] the install.pl did all of that it seems. [20:39] ah so it seems to be OK now? [20:39] yep [20:39] try it? [20:40] I am right now [20:40] ah i remember why i used this. [20:40] to block portscans outbound [20:40] by NAT users. [20:40] ugh. nasty users [20:40] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:40] NATsty [20:40] hmph [20:40] tecky: is nasty [20:41] ight ... i'm pissed :X [20:41] hi [20:41] whats up hooker! [20:41] now now kiddie [20:41] tecky: yarr [20:41] acidchild: script kiddie ... get it right! [20:41] tecky: atleast i bring home the goods [20:41] nheco_ (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [20:41] and self admitted n00b [20:41] woo! [20:41] go you [20:41] Channel flood from acidchild -- kicking [20:41] haha, hows life? [20:41] acidchild kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:41] acidchild (n=acid@spy.int.sevenl.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] acidchild: decent... :X [20:41] pwned. [20:42] kamaji (n=kamaji@137.222.233.63) left irc: "sleep" [20:42] why are you pissed, the CD tray is not a toilet seat you moron. [20:42] trying to figure out why the hell this slack install is having issues [20:42] hello [20:42] tecky: the slackware installer sucks ass. [20:42] hi zGhost [20:42] just re-run it [20:42] acidchild: ya i did 2x already [20:42] CD drive? [20:42] aye [20:42] twolf: got a wii and have got mplayer-ce :D [20:43] different images, cd burns [20:43] zGhost: sweet [20:43] twolf: it is excellent [20:43] cd drive then [20:43] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:43] i'm getting the same result, it cant get my network up and going [20:43] try mounting the disk, then copying the files in to a tmpfs. [20:43] edman007: /wave [20:43] and then running the install [20:43] Action: edman007 waves [20:43] wifi sucks here, lol [20:43] acidchild: hmm [20:43] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Hey edman007 [20:44] hi [20:44] i think i'm starting to get sunburn :( [20:45] haha nice. [20:45] Action: edman007 burns acidchild [20:45] everyone i know is injured... [20:46] Action: acidchild photocopys your face [20:46] suck up that UV bitch [20:46] :( [20:46] ;> [20:47] so, i got sunburn, my brother was stung by a stingray, and i got another friend that poured boiling water on their hand [20:48] sounds like your pretty chart topping on the iq charts there edman007 [20:48] if all goes good i will have x running on this ancient toughbook [20:48] i'm the one with the minor injure...and that was with SPF-15 suntan stuff [20:48] is mentioning highschool completion/graduation moot on a resume that includes college and university graduations? [20:50] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:50] antiwire: usually highschool grad is included in a resume [20:51] k [20:51] hmm [20:53] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:55] atom_fox (i=1000@122.55.123.119) joined ##slackware. [20:56] anyone here has a video driver ati radeon? because I'm having problems configure mine on xorg.conf [20:56] edman007: are you part of the cluts gang? [20:57] you roll around in your cars crashing in to things? [20:57] with my current setting the only problem is that I cant play videos properly it blinks all the time and get some error on buffering [20:58] antiwire : yes, it's moot. don't bother with it [20:58] now if you have grad degree, you should still mention undergrad [20:59] antiwire: any luck? :-) [20:59] I'd going to leave the community college stuff in there, that's where I finished my associates, and of course univ stays too [20:59] I'd I'm [21:00] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:00] acidchild: I'm checking out the install.pl right now. I want to at least have a clue about what it does before I go running it [21:00] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.68.209) joined ##slackware. [21:00] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [21:02] rignes (n=rignes@216-164-160-133.c3-0.atw-ubr3.atw.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:26] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:26] calm before the storm? :) [21:26] yeah well its thursday [21:26] indeed methinks lol [21:26] Hey guys.. random religion flamewar starting now! [21:26] Religion X sucks!\ [21:26] Rat409: How's it going> [21:26] s/>/?/ [21:26] there ya go [21:27] good thanks,tired but good [21:29] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-191-231.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] religion is the biggest & longest running bullshit story in the history of human civilization [21:31] might as well get it started [21:31] so we can get it over with [21:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o George Carlin's opinion about religion is what i can agree with [21:34] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-191-231.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:39] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:39] oh firebird619 guess what? i fixed my wifi lag, i updated the firmware in my router and the lag went away [21:40] Action: jeev coughs [21:41] makes me wonder why the firmware update fixed it, can a cheap linksys router be p0wned by evil haxors? [21:41] it's cheap [21:41] Pig_Pen: great, good to hear. [21:41] what more do you expect [21:42] if i ever buy another router i will get one of those cheap netgear linux based routers [21:43] Pig_Pen: aah they don't make em like the late George Carlin anymore. [21:43] i am so getting raped by minute overages and txt messages this month [21:43] omfg. [21:44] bummer [21:44] ol' Carlin is a classic, i love his style and character [21:45] Pig_Pen: ever seen his "Airline Safety Announcements"? [21:45] antiwire: get a better phone plan [21:46] danc3: yeah you think? [21:46] yeah I do [21:46] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] do you? [21:47] no, but i do remember a lot of really old stuff by carlin back when he was first starting out, like "The Hippy Dippy Weather Man" [21:47] i guess i could find that with a quick youtube search [21:47] Pig_Pen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DagVklB4VHQ [21:47] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-191-231.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] Pig_Pen: partII http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjKciefHo38 [21:52] you ever use youtube-dl ? [21:52] nice little tool if you dont want to open a browser [21:52] zGhost^ (i=zachary@adsl-69-209-102-36.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.160) joined ##slackware. [21:53] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE79EA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] for those of you running current have you had any problem with plasma segfault 11/15 including dolphin... this is happening under heavy file transers or ripping dvds.... plasma will start flashing on all the things on the desktop, slowly elinate those things from view and evenetually crash and restart [21:55] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:59] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.133.241) joined ##slackware. [22:00] VampirePenguin: I can't say that I've experienced that myself [22:00] and I Have really stressed my system too [22:00] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [22:01] i have more than enough ram, im not running cpu cycles high... its either lots of r/ws or wlan0 traffic with a passthru [22:02] is this a VM you're talking about or a real system? 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[22:46] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:51] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [22:52] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [22:54] mmmm [22:54] wow it's quiet. [22:55] yup very [22:55] Shhhh! We'ew hunting WABBITS! [22:55] lol [22:55] haha [22:57] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-253-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:58] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-253-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:00] it's baseball season [23:00] beebeep zip tang! [23:01] rob0 WABBITS! ? have you smoked your bong again? [23:01] Action: Rat409 waits for "Football Season" [23:01] Actually, it's a buck-and-a-quarter quarterstaff, but I'm not tellin' HIM that. [23:02] lightweights [23:04] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:10] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:11] not exactly work safe story http://fukung.net/v/10789/d25ca616bd75bb63d791a5fc7440f664.jpg [23:11] but hilarious [23:12] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.46.237) joined ##slackware. [23:13] lmao [23:13] yup :P [23:13] anyone is used to make like a scheduled backup of a specific list of configuration files in /etc? [23:14] Hey chopp [23:14] antiwire: hahaha [23:14] hey [23:15] dissociative: I'd just use rsync and cron [23:15] or a file list + tar :) [23:16] I just figure that /etc is hardly anything as far as space goes. If you go to the trouble of backing up part of it you might as well hit it all [23:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:21] night all:) [23:21] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:23] but to backup all of /etc I have to do it only as root.. [23:24] I need to back it up to a usb stick and sure goes things like /etc/shadow there and other non desirable stuff [23:24] "How do I find the creation time of a file? You can't" -- is this true? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/faq/part3/section-1.html [23:26] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.71.5) joined ##slackware. [23:26] hey all [23:27] hi [23:27] Tyrael (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:27] anyone think slackware 13.0 will be released next months or within the next several months ? [23:28] maybe [23:28] redtricycle: that is what I'm hoping [23:28] maybe [23:28] redtricycle: I'm sick of using non-official 64 bit slackware distros [23:28] :P [23:29] I just run 32-bit slackware on my laptop, so I'm looking forward to it too [23:29] yeah [23:30] s/months/month/g [23:31] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:33] j0z (n=JESUS@189-31-207-208.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:35] is 64-bit on the roadmap? [23:36] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:36] it is in -current [23:37] ah, ok [23:37] it's a migration away from x86, or will both platforms be supported? [23:37] both [23:37] cool [23:38] I wonder how much arch and company will be affected? [23:40] mmlj4: by 'arch' you mean Arch Linux ? [23:40] yes [23:41] mmlj4: well I've used Arch Linux before and I find it much more unstable than Slacwkare so smart people it would seem to me would prefer 64 bit slack [23:41] but that is just my opinion [23:41] or slamd64 [23:42] mmlj4: I think slamd64 and bluewhite64 might wither up and die or just stop altogether outright eh ? [23:42] oh, no doubt... I needed to get work done, and not stop to fiddle and fix broken stuff [23:43] hopefully those devs would help on the official port project [23:43] yeah ideally [23:43] slamd64, i mean [23:43] 1) Fred is already helping n th eofficial port 2) I doubt arny ever will help [23:44] 2) cause we like it like dat [23:44] Arch Linux is a rolling release distribution... stability will always be an issue at one point or another. [23:44] Dominian: right exactly [23:45] umislack (i=1000@58.64.95.242) joined ##slackware. [23:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Arch Linux, imho, was never meant to be used as anything but a "fanatic" for the bleeding edge... [23:45] However, I do like pacman [23:45] pacman is indeed nice [23:45] but I also like FreeBSD ports.. and NetBSD pkgsrc [23:46] Dominian: I like NetBSD's pkgsrc best [23:46] netbsd? now you're talking [23:46] and gentoo's portage is also quite interesting [23:46] except that pkgsrc was usually broken half the time for me [23:46] Dominian: actually there are some slackware based linux distros that use NetBSD's pkgsrc I know of at least three [23:46] Don't get me wrong, I've been on the same "bandwagon" for distro bashing in the past, but Slackware isn't a religion.. I use Slackware because *I* know the inner workings of Slackware better than I do others.. but my knowledge is expanding on other fronts :P [23:46] Angevin: names? [23:47] Angevin: Well, slackware-based means nothing to me [23:47] and porting pkgsrc to Slackware is actually quite trivial in a sense. [23:47] as a comparison.. look at sbopkg which interfaces with slackbuilds.org.. basically the same process. [23:47] mmlj4: blackmouse linux and voltalinux and I cannot think of the name of the other one right now [23:48] Dominian: I mostly agree with you on "slackware-bigotry", though I'd add that slackware does tend to remain in keeping with a healthy amount of minimalism, so if you like that, its a plus [23:48] A) do a minimal slack install, B) remove a couple of packages C) install pkgsrc [23:48] done [23:48] Well Slackware has always had the mantra of stability verses bleeding edge.. which is a key in why its so widely used still [23:49] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] I still remember years ago ... getting the floppies to install SLackware.. [23:49] Dominian: setting up pkgsrc on slackware is trivial if you know exactly what set of minimal packages you need to start off with and not everyone has such knowledge [23:49] people who claim Slackware is hard to install... especially with the latest versions.. are ignorant. [23:49] Angevin: Google holds that key. [23:49] iGNUrant [23:49] Dominian: I've been using BSD and Linux since 1997 so slackware isn't hard to me and distros like Ubuntu are downright alien to me [23:49] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [23:49] rob0++ [23:50] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:50] beer++ [23:50] and as for Slamd64... I was running Slamd64 since its conception.. I did an in-place upgradepkg to Slackware64 just a few days ago [23:50] ice cream+++ [23:50] packages in Slackware64 our pretty much exactly the same as that in Slamd64.. [23:50] rob0: speaking of beer... [23:50] Action: Dominian goes and gets one [23:50] get me some ice cream [23:51] I've always considered the primary merit of Slackware to be its "non-invasive" stance - I think its the closest you can get to kernel, GNU stuff, and lots of software, all as close to "as intended" distribution as possible [23:51] Well, besides LFS you mean. [23:51] I always love when someone says "Well my distro is source-based" [23:51] So is.. Slackware... [23:51] I'm happy about the minimalist feel, and BSD-style init [23:51] So is any distribution really for that matter hehe [23:52] yeah.. don't get me wrong.. there are a few packages I'd like to see get interchanged.. like the syslogd [23:52] I'd like to see syslog-ng in there [23:52] haha - yeah, programs without source - its like the virgin mary :) [23:52] rk4n3: right [23:53] Real programmers do cat > binary [23:53] Programming languages ... those are for wimps. [23:54] haha [23:54] Now if you wanted to be a real turd... create a distribution that has all static binaries.. no libs.. that would be interesting [23:57] I've tried many different linux distros since 1997 but I always come back to slackware [23:57] Dominian: Then it would be called Windows :p [23:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:58] XGizzmo_: blasphemy ! ... as if Windows has any static library contents worthy of comparison to glibc et al ? [23:58] :) [23:58] to tell you the truth I do prefer BSD over linux but BSD just simply doesn't have as much hardware support especially for laptops and that is why I am running a non-official 64 bit slackware port in this laptop rather than BSD. [23:59] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-40-214.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:59] I just tried the new NetBSD release on this laptop and it was nice but it just didn't support all my hardware [23:59] same with me Angevin.. but i use slack for shit like NFS cause i trust it ;) [23:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Angevin: indeed - I have the same opinion - I run and love slackware, but would choose FreeBSD over it if the *BSD's kept up better with various levels of support for things [00:00] --- Fri May 29 2009