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[00:12] i hate this "see price in cart" nonsense. does it really help them with sales? do people end up buying because they feel having gone through the trouble of putting in the cart 'might as well' ? [00:12] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:12] mancha: not a display item. I bet they sold 100 of them in less than an hour [00:13] mancha: I read somewhere that it's a legal thing. [00:13] oh... [00:15] legal it might be, annoying it is. [00:15] something about the manufacturers having a deal with the retailer not to advertise the price below a percentage of the msrp [00:15] http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200339100&pop-up=1 [00:15] mancha: ^^ [00:15] and announcing it in the cart doesn't have the same "advertisement" quality i guess. legal semantics of course, and the end result is we have to click a lot more [00:16] a few times more [00:16] not a lot [00:16] lazy :P [00:16] hey, shopping's gotta be easy shouldn't be work! :) [00:16] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-98-57.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:28] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:31] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:33] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[00:58] Hence: do all of your initial setup stuff (configure nfs shares, generic kernel with lilo, etcetera), reboot to make sure all is well, and then take a snapshot [00:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:58] deco: saw this one posted over on the crunchbang post http://arpinux.deviantart.com/art/conky-black-column-130250561 [00:58] Hence: you'll also want to edit the rc.ntpd script to do an "ntpdate sometimeserver" call before ntpd is actually started (be sure to set rc.ntpd as mode 0755) [00:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:59] Hence: ideally you have a local package mirror, so you should configure /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to use it - do that also before you take the initial snapshot [00:59] rworkman, yeah i figured i ought to snapshot it as a "clean install" so that i can use it over and over, thanks for the recommendation 8-) [00:59] MLanden: ah nice! thank you [00:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:00] deco: np...check archlinux's as well as crunchbang's...lot of cool ideas [01:00] The way things work here is, I basically do all of what I mentioned above, snapshot it, and then after I build stuff, I just revert the changes. When new patches come out for 13.0, I boot the clean snapshot, use slackpkg to upgrade them, reboot to ensure that all is well, and take a new snap [01:00] MLanden: yeah will do :) [01:00] Be sure you have plenty of disk space - snaps eat a lot [01:01] oh heck yeah [01:01] GB, easy [01:01] rworkman, so you build your packages against an updated slackware 13.0 (i.e. with patches/packages/*.t[gx]z) [01:01] yes [01:01] ah [01:02] Theoretically, that shouldn't ever cause breakage on an unpatched system, but if it does, consider it encouragement. :) [01:02] lol [01:02] or if you're like me.. You have 4 VMs.. one each of the latest release of 32bit and 64bit and one each of -current 32bit and 64bit hehe [01:02] Dominian, what is the host OS? [01:02] Dominian: indeed I do, plus a couple of others for more "risky" testing [01:02] Hence: openSUSE for now [01:02] rworkman: same [01:03] My host is a Slackware64 pre-13.0 (sometime even before we released it for public consumption) with an AMD X2 6000+ and 8GB of ram :) [01:04] I should really upgrade it to 13.0 or -current, since it's really a FrankenSlack install right now, but why bother? It works for its intended purpose. [01:05] for me, windows xp media center on sda1, sda2 is a small /boot, then i LUKS+LVM slackware 13 and slackware64-13 and both of those are fully up to date in patches [01:05] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:05] so i have like 5 boot options in LILO and now i'm adding virtual machines to compile packages [01:06] VM's are a lifesaver here. I do NOT miss the days of multi-booting and constant reinstalls. [01:06] well once installed everything works but i may get a wild hair up my @$$ and go to 256 bit encryption instead of 128 but i am not sure if i will [01:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:07] i'm glad i discovered LVM though, that's my lifesaver [01:07] rworkman: we've had vm's for years...they just weren't easy to use until recently [01:07] rworkman: I may, in time, convert this quad-core i'm on to xen server [01:08] until recently it was easier imho to just install it natively [01:08] nyRednek: indeed [01:09] Dominian: have fun with that. [01:09] You know, I'm sure vbox is not the most efficient vm utility out there, but it's good enough for my needs. [01:09] rworkman: I have other plans other than running guest test installations. [01:10] for now vbox serves its purpose quite well [01:10] Sure - probably "other plans" like the exact ones I was thinking that I do NOT have. :) [01:10] fire|bird: yo, you around? [01:10] rworkman: hehe [01:10] rworkman: I eventually will move my firewall/router to a VM [01:10] eww [01:11] not ew [01:11] I'm eventually going to spring for a sheevaplug to do that with. [01:11] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [01:11] rworkman: ah [01:11] rworkman, do you usually install KDEI ? [01:11] Hence: absolutely not [01:11] kdei is a waste imho [01:11] For dev purposes, yes [01:11] rworkman: I just have way too many boxes here running separate things [01:12] However, i wil wait till I can afford another quad-core and do xen server live migrations etc :P [01:12] Anyone else messed with Vuze and got it to work? Java craps out on me and the only key thing i have to go off is it mentioning libxul.so(which does exist). The program opens and then terminates suddenly. I'm on 13.0 x86. [01:12] Dominian: going up against linode? ;) [01:13] Dominian: that's sorta my motivation too. I have a P4 HT box doing router/firewall/server duties and the beefy dev box both on all the time. No reason not to put a lowpower device in as firewall and move the server duties to the dev box [01:13] BP{k}: ha no way [01:13] rworkman: yah [01:14] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-66-45.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:19] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:22] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [01:22] Hence (n=Threefol@61.43.249.4) left irc: "Leaving" [01:23] my stupid kvm slackware was sluggish earlier [01:23] i had to reboot and memtest 8 gigs, just finished.. was ok [01:23] how long did that take? [01:23] single pass took 70 min i think [01:23] that's not bad [01:25] Lkzwieder (n=lkzwiede@200-55-114-79.dsl.prima.net.ar) left irc: "Salgo, necesito estar al aire libre un toque o mis ojos van a explotar!" [01:25] dunno why it did that though, im pissed [01:25] the vm was locked up too [01:26] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:26] hba (n=hba@189.188.117.193) joined ##slackware. [01:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:30] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:32] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:33] i've got a raid 1 (yea, i know weak nowadays) storage server [01:33] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.78) joined ##slackware. [01:34] i want my stupid windows to login with no problem. getting tired of sftp [01:34] hehe [01:34] wish i could iscsi [01:34] you can iscsi with windows [01:34] nathanbw (n=nathan@24-117-63-230.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:34] but only as a client [01:34] yea i know but last time i tried iscsi on freenas [01:34] files got corrupt [01:34] ouch [01:34] jeev: ever try openfiler? [01:34] maybe cause i had formatted it as ntfs lol [01:34] nope [01:34] jeev: ntfs.. over iscsi.. on freenas? you be nuts [01:35] hahaha yea [01:35] eh my storage server is at the datacenter, i dont feel like *breaking* it [01:35] hehe [01:35] Dominian: why do you use opensuse as a host for you slackware vm's ? [01:36] deco_: Why not? [01:36] I use Slackware other places. openSUSE servers other purposes. [01:36] Dominian: just curious as they why opensuse [01:36] as to* [01:36] deco_: because he thinks the green lizard is cute. [01:36] something different [01:36] fire|bird: :P [01:36] fire|bird: and that [01:36] Dominian, why not use slackware for your xen host ? :D [01:36] i do that [01:36] jeev: well not doing xen right now anyway [01:36] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] ah, what you doing [01:36] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [01:37] jeev: nothing [01:37] jeev: hehe [01:37] no i mean, virtualbox ? [01:37] oh yeah virtualbox [01:37] ah so you use the gui hehe [01:37] jeev: eh sometimes [01:37] depends if I'm feeling lazy [01:37] actually i t hink virtualbox scored higher on bench for me than xen alone [01:37] on non virtualized hardware [01:37] Well, xen server is awesome [01:37] Dominian: you mean everyday that ends in a "y"? [01:37] I love xen server [01:37] BP{k}: yes [01:38] jeev: xen server provides you tools that you have to pay for with Vmware ESX [01:38] xen server? is that anything special over kernel patches and the tools ? [01:38] i dont like anything vmware. [01:39] jeev: its a stand alone virtualization hypervisor [01:39] jeev: completely free [01:39] jeev: its what linode runs on [01:39] i see [01:39] jeev: It provides live motion type functionality [01:39] for free [01:39] :) [01:40] heh [01:40] i use gplhost's open source on one of my server [01:40] ew debian. [01:40] heh [01:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "leaving" [01:40] jeev: why debian ? [01:41] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [01:41] it runs on debian [01:41] that's what gplhost runs [01:41] it was the first thing i tried with virtualization [01:41] other than virtualbox at home for minor stuff [01:42] oh [01:43] hmm [01:43] i can try openfiler i guess with xen [01:43] but not enough space [01:46] Eurotrash (i=unices@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:47] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [01:51] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.132.48) joined ##slackware. [01:51] kitche (i=kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [01:53] wow gplhost is super cheap [01:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [01:56] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [01:58] tell him jeev sent you if you sign up hehe [01:59] hba (n=hba@189.188.117.193) left irc: "leaving" [01:59] jeev: :P [01:59] Hence (n=Threefol@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [02:00] jeev: what's maximum hit? how many people can see your site or transfer at the some time ? [02:00] same* [02:07] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [02:08] Hence (n=Threefol@61.43.249.4) left irc: "Leaving" [02:11] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [02:14] ab_bazooka (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:14] Hence (n=Threefol@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [02:15] huh [02:16] dont know i dont have a server ther [02:17] oh [02:20] Dominian, what filesystem is your openfiler set up [02:20] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Karuna (n=kvirc@125.163.83.218) joined ##slackware. [02:22] welcome back MLanden [02:22] thanks fire|bird [02:23] oh right, tor is sloooooow [02:24] nheco_ (n=nheco@201-34-93-143.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:26] user51 (i=c747d65e@gateway/web/freenode/x-urqcbpbknmkgwddw) joined ##slackware. [02:26] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:30] what the fuck do you need tor for ? [02:30] here is the regular moron american response. "if you're not doing anything illegal, you shouldn't worry about privacy!" [02:30] that's when you dickslap them [02:31] or just shoot them in the face [02:31] maybe (n=may_be@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [02:31] brb [02:31] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [02:32] hello :) [02:32] hi [02:32] maybe: maybe i know you ? [02:32] init[1], maybe [02:32] :) funny [02:33] init[1]: maybe you don't [02:33] jeev: yea maybe :P [02:33] nheco (n=nheco@201-89-189-18.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:33] fire|bird: well infacy maybe you will [02:33] Action: init[1] infact [02:35] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.78) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:35] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [02:37] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.132.48) left irc: "Leaving" [02:43] Hence (n=Threefol@61.43.249.4) left irc: "Leaving" [02:46] Nick change: pragma_ -> tor}[ [02:46] Nick change: tor}[ -> pragma_ [02:47] user51 (i=c747d65e@gateway/web/freenode/x-urqcbpbknmkgwddw) left irc: Client Quit [03:01] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:13] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. 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[04:20] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [04:21] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-35.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:22] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:27] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-24-221-218.web.vodafone.de) left irc: "Leaving" [04:28] slackware_bob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-229-98.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:28] Hello People. [04:29] is there a reason why in slackware the comptuer might not be providing the correct MAC address to the router when requesting dhcp IP? [04:29] i don't think so, but you could try changing the dhcp client, if it's a problem with it [04:30] rg3: no it's using dhcpcd. [04:30] normally slackware uses dhcpcd, but you can try to manually use dhclient and, if it works, use it instead of dhcpcd [04:30] all my linux distros report the correct MACs so the router can assign them specific IPs. But none of my slackware installs get the IPs configured for them at the router. [04:30] my other distros use dhcpcd. [04:31] the try dhclient to discard a problem with the dhcpcd version shipped with slackware [04:31] dhcpcd has several versions, rewrites and many changes between them, that's why i suggest trying dhclient first [04:31] ok, it's worth a shot. [04:31] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:32] ok, my gentoo uses 4.0.13. But slackware uses 3.2.3. [04:32] could account for differences. [04:37] slackware_bob, The MAC used can be found in "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" and can be changed by rc.inet1.conf. I should check this. [04:38] merciful: cool thanks. I will read thru the file. [04:38] ifconfig shows the HWaddr as X. I used that in the router. [04:38] where X is the actual long MAC addr. [04:40] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:41] usually that's no problem, the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is a file that associates mac addresses to interface names, just in case you want to change the interface names [04:41] those report fine. [04:41] or swap eth0 and eth1, stuff like that [04:42] my router shows attached devices as the correct MAC address that it was programmed to use to assign IP X. So the problem is probably at the router. [04:42] but it's giving out a wrong IP. [04:42] can netgear ever make something right. [04:42] dhclient doesn't work either? [04:43] rg3: I haven't tried it yet. I just saw the router showing the correct IP in attached device list. So I am gonna reboot it to see if it will assign the correct IP. [04:43] lol, re-assigning random IPs is messing up my ssh's. [04:46] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.251.183.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] slackware_bob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-229-98.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:49] slackware_bob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-233-28.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:49] Hello People. [04:49] slackwar1_bob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-233-28.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:49] ok dhclient works. [04:49] dhcpcd still gets the wrong IP. [04:50] router shows correct mac address for both clients. why would it care. [04:50] slackware_bob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-233-28.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:50] Nick change: slackwar1_bob -> slackware_bob [04:51] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) joined ##slackware. [04:51] so the problem is in dhcpcd [04:51] in these situations, i recommend to launch dhclient from rc.local, ignoring rc.inet1, if possible [04:52] normally that should just work and you can pretty much forget about it [04:53] rg3: currently I have a script that I run that runs wpa_supplicant for connectivity and then runs dhcpcd. [04:53] now it will dhclient. [04:53] but maybe all that can do in rc.wireless...? [04:55] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [04:55] Is anyone running slackware with a intel GM4500HD graphics card ? [04:55] rg3: also thanks for your help. :) [04:58] |Ikarus| (n=00@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [04:59] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [04:59] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:59] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. 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Im new to the ATI world.. Im running the default VESA driver at the moment but I would like to use the radeon/radeonhd driver instead... How do I set it up without messing it up ? [05:20] in a shell type lspci to determine the actually card that you have [05:20] sluckwere [05:21] Graphics: Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3600 Series X.Org 1.6.3 Res: 1920x1200@60.0hz [05:21] GLX Renderer N/A GLX Version N/A Direct Rendering N/A [05:22] nheco_ (n=nheco@201-34-93-143.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:25] then in device drivers -> graphichs suppot -> select your card and recompile the modules or kernel or both [05:26] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) joined ##slackware. [05:27] t0f, okay... sounds simple enough.. If I'll stumble into any issues I'll return.. thx a lot for now.. [05:27] ok [05:28] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [05:29] DebiE: Tou can try to run without the xorg.conf. X should then auto configure and load correct drivers. [05:29] merciful, so... the xorg.conf-VESA I have in /etc/X11/ ... rename and reboot and hope it fixes it self, thats what you mean ? [05:30] DebiE: yep [05:30] cool.. thx... lets see what happens =) [05:30] DebiE (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:32] i forgot about all the new stuff. this fs id held together with chewing gum and bain-aids [05:35] 05:34:45 up 77 days 11:03, 8 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.33 [05:36] t0f: uptime from your slack setup? [05:36] merciful: it's a joke. my max so far is 26 days [05:38] slackware seems to love being up a long time [05:38] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:38] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.82) joined ##slackware. [05:38] yello :) [05:38] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:38] Running several slack boxes. One is a router. Current uptime: 167 days 20 hours 19 minutes [05:39] nice [05:39] t0f: its here http://www.merciful.nl/phpsysinfo/ [05:39] i know of a BSD4.4 box still running [05:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:39] a safe bet that you're running slack 12.2 on that [05:39] that is, without reboot [05:39] 12.1 [05:40] same here [05:40] without reboot [05:40] my box has been up since the 72 olympics in munich [05:40] mancha: 0.001 mhz then :) [05:41] by the by, 12.1 was an awesome version [05:41] It is. Very stable. [05:41] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:42] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] not for me [05:42] yep, you can hit 12.1 with a 2 kton nuke and it'll keep ticking [05:42] i had to do mad kernel tricks to get libata working [05:42] the latest firefox renders incorrectly with the libs in 12.1 [05:42] t0f, orly? [05:42] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:42] i was asking about that earlier today and two people said it worked perfectly. [05:43] i had issues [05:43] another said "of course it works, why wouldn't it" but i sort of discount things he says :) [05:43] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:43] t0f, interesting, can you be a bit more specific on the issue? [05:43] so i use 3.0.15 [05:43] macavity: just one kernel flag at boot time - not a tricky [05:43] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [05:43] 3.0.x dies next month though [05:44] the page would be torn and unreadable [05:44] y* [05:44] agris: uhm i had to recompile to get it to not do some odd IRQ stall i never really understood [05:44] nheco_ (n=nheco@200-96-101-121.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:44] i may still have a screenshot, just a sec [05:45] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]" [05:46] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) left irc: "Gone Indefinitely" [05:47] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:48] it's uploading. dialup, don't you know [05:48] t0f: you're on 56k? [05:48] http://imagebin.org/73293 [05:48] 33.6 [05:48] :| [05:49] O_O [05:50] yay, there's still such connections? [05:50] if the line is noisy.. [05:51] i'm doing well this connection [05:51] +MRR: 28800,42667 [05:51] my 3G works lotta faster [05:51] t0f, thanks for taking the time to u/l that wow, ugly! [05:51] did that happen with all pages? [05:51] not all, but enough to be annoying [05:51] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:52] i will test with the one in your snapshot (the mozilla help site) when i u/g [05:52] in fact, ima u/g right now just to test. any others off hand that you know would break? [05:52] i think that i was told to upgrqade libcryo and was told here that i'd break my system [05:53] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:53] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl5-180-81.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:54] _nheco_ (n=nheco@200-96-80-54.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:54] libcryo? [05:54] I still have troubles with partprobe =/ [05:55] libcairo maybe? [05:55] mancha: no, i spelled it wrong [05:55] mancha: yes, that's it [05:56] yeah ff surely depends on cairo, pango and pango-cairo [05:56] why'd they say it would break? [05:56] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:57] other than everying and its mother depending on libcairo [05:57] :> [05:58] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-192-253.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [05:58] tmpnick1 (n=master@81.214.159.55) joined ##slackware. [05:58] hi there! [06:01] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:01] or crypto? [06:01] _nheco_ (n=nheco@201-89-146-18.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:01] hi metrofox [06:03] libcrypto would not mess with rendering [06:03] hey Camarade_Tux :) [06:04] mancha: true [06:04] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [06:04] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:05] |Ikarus| (n=00@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:06] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-164-85.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:06] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:07] ok t0f, moment of truth. just finished updating! [06:07] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:08] setsquare (n=simon@60-242-50-107.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:08] hah, won't start up [06:08] hello [06:09] voidpointer (n=void@unaffiliated/voidpointer) joined ##slackware. [06:10] t0f it failed [06:10] hm [06:10] nheco_ (n=nheco@200-96-101-121.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:10] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [06:10] t0f, thank you for your advice... It work... just not as good as the propriatary driver.. I ended up building modules of that driver and my glxgears scores got 5x ... [06:11] well, you live and learn :) [06:11] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:11] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:11] I am installing slak13 64bit for the 3rd time in VirtualBox getting the same error: An error occured during the root filesystem check. It sais to fsck it. [06:11] I can't fsck, it won't let me. I have ext3 [06:12] Yeah.. I guess if you want performance and opensource drivers you'd better stick with nVidia.. Well.. Great place to come for advice as usual =) [06:12] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [06:12] And i am directed to the single user shell [06:13] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [06:13] t0f, so you were able to upgradepkg and it ran? all you had was bad pages? [06:14] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.82) left ##slackware. [06:15] for the rendering issie? [06:15] issue [06:15] on my boxen it doesn't even start up, firefox that is. [06:15] tmpnick1 (n=master@81.214.159.55) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:15] if i run from the bash wrapper it hangs, if i run the -bin directly it complains about a lib [06:16] oh? [06:16] oh hrmm, i might be messing something up here...on sec. 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[06:34] s/'ll be/ am/ [06:34] i found out why 3.5.x wasn't workoinmg and now i got it running and all rendering is a-okay [06:34] sweet [06:34] so bottom line, i'll not have issues when i migrae. going back to 3.0.0.15 for now though... :) [06:35] *migrate [06:35] geez, i installed a codec pack using wine and now i can't find the darn things to mv them for mplayers use (media.player.codec.pack.v3.9.0.setup.exe) [06:35] voidpointer (n=void@unaffiliated/voidpointer) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:35] t0f ~/.wine/c:/Program\ Files/ [06:35] :) [06:36] or ~/.wine/c:/Windows ... i dont know where do win keeps those thing :) [06:36] t0f, i don't know why yours didn't render, i connected to your screenshot url and it was sweet. also all others i checked from bookmarks looked perfect. [06:36] shadowx: thanks, i'll have a look [06:36] why is the pathi stuffed with / and \ ? [06:36] strange [06:37] ~/.wine/c:/Program\ Files/ = "~/.wine/c:/Program Files/" [06:37] 'cose of the blank space :) [06:38] rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [06:38] Program\ Files Foo\ bar/Foo\ program/foo\ baring.exe [06:38] But why bot / and \ and space? [06:38] no [06:38] means / [06:39] '\ ' means ' ' [06:39] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:39] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:40] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [06:45] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.61.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:47] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Connection timed out [06:48] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.120.229) joined ##slackware. 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[07:07] mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/sr0 /media/dvd [07:07] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, [07:07] missing codepage or helper program, or other error [07:07] (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use [07:07] ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?) [07:07] In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try [07:07] dmesg | tail or so [07:07] HELP!!!! [07:07] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:08] kozio: disk is damanged, or disk is a DVD formatted in udf? [07:08] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [07:08] idk [07:08] try -t udf [07:08] I tried the same [07:08] and got also problem [07:09] cann't eject disk [07:09] :// [07:09] the buttom for eject don't work [07:09] eject /dev/sr0 [07:09] litterally [07:09] kozio: would you paste bin the dmesg | tail ? [07:09] dmesg | tail [07:09] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08 [07:09] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : 0x5 [current] [07:09] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] ASC=0x64 ASCQ=0x0 [07:09] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1024 [07:10] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08 [07:10] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:10] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : 0x5 [current] [07:10] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] ASC=0x64 ASCQ=0x0 [07:10] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 2048 [07:10] UDF-fs: No anchor found [07:10] PASTEBIN you ididot [07:10] kozio: pastebin [07:10] UDF-fs: No partition found (1) [07:10] is slackboy sleeping? [07:10] sorry [07:10] Action: sahk0 faps slackboy [07:10] macavity: what is happend to slackboy? [07:10] init[1]: i ate him :P [07:10] no, there was a giant split yesterday, and i havent seen him since [07:11] slackboy: are you sleeping at the helm?!? [07:11] http://wklej.org/id/218240/ [07:11] http://wklej.org/id/218240/ << [07:11] Action: drgr33n pokes slackboy [07:11] alienBOB: slackboy is missing [07:11] macavity: /n == no slackboy [07:11] init[1]: he is pressent, but not operational [07:11] i have him here?!? [07:11] macavity: try /n i can't find him [07:12] yea he is alive [07:12] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:12] [ bigpaws ] [ fuzzix ] [ Kowalczyk ] [ ovnicraft ] [ slackboy ] [ wollw ] [07:12] macavity: yea found him [07:12] you need glasses too old man :P [07:12] who here can open a can of whoopass on kozio? [07:12] oh, i think he larned by the resonse that he should use a pastebin [07:13] macavity: ;P [07:13] guys, help [07:13] this problem is hardcore [07:13] Action: init[1] :D [07:13] kozio: what happens if you type "eject /dev/sr0"? [07:13] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-166-155-147.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:14] jected [07:14] it ejected [07:14] check the disk for signs of physical damage [07:16] kozio: on more thing are you on slackware or arch ? [07:17] linux [07:17] ... [07:17] \o: [07:17] argh, shift-fail: \o/ [07:17] Camarade_Tux, 'sup? [07:17] kozio: answer to _the_ question [07:18] jescis: hi :) [07:18] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Action: Camarade_Tux just killed a partition [07:19] I check other dvd [07:19] Camarade_Tux, why'd you kill it? Was it bad? ;-) [07:19] is it a movie DVD? [07:19] or a data dvd? [07:20] jescis: dunno, it spit me errors and umounted itself ^^ [07:20] actually it's still alive but I guess something bad happened [07:23] could be deeper then just the partition >.> [07:23] nah, it's a virtual machine ;-) [07:24] oh, lol [07:24] ahh [07:25] this dvd is video recorded with camera [07:25] and both computers cann't read it [07:25] what to do? 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[08:28] ok so now i'm getting the hang of this [08:28] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/packages/slackware/ [08:29] i am building my package repository complete with scripts and source [08:29] in a virtualbox [08:29] so far i only have freeciv but i am compiling audacity as i speak [08:29] Hence (n=Threefol@211.180.33.9) joined ##slackware. [08:31] y'all have fun [08:31] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:32] twinreverb (n=neosadis@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Client Quit [08:33] what kind of keyboards are used on terminals? [08:33] ? [08:34] as in, are they made like they are now or made of switches that are made of plastic? [08:35] and if the latter what kind of glue or epoxy would someone use if a key broke off? [08:35] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: "Leaving" [08:36] man i don't get that question at all [08:36] what do you mean by terminals? [08:36] the old real serial terminals [08:37] gaz- (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:37] used with mini computers [08:37] i have no clue [08:37] or main frames [08:37] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:38] well, maybe some here does. [08:38] s/some/someone [08:43] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:44] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [08:44] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:46] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:46] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [08:47] xpose (n=cr@89.252.246.18) joined ##slackware. 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[09:07] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:07] Action: init[1] ##slackware silence === people with no issues :D ,thus hypothesis proved ;) [09:08] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [09:09] init[1]: you broke it. You are a bad person and must now hang your head in shame and be shunned. [09:10] jescis: old terminal keyboards are likely to be switched, rather than modern membrane type. Depends on their age of course. [09:10] StevenR: ;) [09:11] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:11] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-79.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:11] StevenR, thanks, so what if a key got broken off? [09:12] myung (n=myung@241.Red-88-14-35.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] hi [09:12] is this slackware support channel? [09:12] jescis: so what? [09:12] myung: yes [09:12] im new to slackware [09:13] just installed it, was using linux mint before(ubuntu based) [09:13] i wanna know how to do stuff in here [09:13] like install wine and flash player [09:13] [3]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [09:13] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:14] StevenR, what kind of adhesive would be used to glue it back without making it a sticky key? [09:14] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:14] myung: http://www.slackbook.org/ [09:14] jescis: araldite or similar would do it, but with care. You have to make sure not to stick the mechanism [09:14] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [09:14] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [09:15] jescis: really, it depends what sort of material it's made of [09:15] plastic [09:16] araldite would probably do it, but you'd need to be careful. [09:17] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Lord-Sid (n=socrates@201.229.205.89) joined ##slackware. [09:17] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Hello Everyone [09:17] cobra-the-joker (n=cobra@41.178.201.180) joined ##slackware. [09:17] hola slakeros ... me gustaria saber que hacer con una wifi bcm4312 en slak 13 [09:18] hi gar0t0 [09:18] Lord-Sid: it's not available, you have to compile an out-of-tree driver or use kernel 2.6.32 [09:18] (no, I don't speak his language :) ) [09:19] Lord-Sid: have you heard of English ? [09:19] Camarade_Tux: hehe!! spanish [09:19] I study german :P [09:19] Lord-Sid: talk in english here!!! try to get help on #slackware-br [09:19] onli spanish [09:19] only spanish [09:19] gar0t0: -br? :D [09:20] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:20] gar0t0: you failed :P [09:20] brasil [09:20] Camarade_Tux: I dont know channels in spanish language here!! I'm braziliam :D [09:20] ok [09:21] Lord-Sid (n=socrates@201.229.205.89) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [09:21] Isn't -br Portuguese? [09:21] yes [09:21] XGizzmo: in Brazil main language is Portuguese [09:21] :D [09:21] hey there guys .... can i really depend on slackware for my PC/Laptop ? [09:21] the main* [09:21] so -es whateve [09:21] whateva [09:21] cobra-the-joker, maybe, what are your needs ? [09:21] cobra-the-joker: sure you can , and slackware assumes you know what you are doing ;) [09:22] gar0t0: hahaha :P [09:22] winter: portunhol :D [09:22] deco could help, but he's awaya [09:22] thrice` ,Programming ( java , c , python ) ...office .....internet :D [09:22] slackware suits my needs on both my PC and my work laptop [09:23] cobra-the-joker: sure , [09:23] and you should be thoroughly covered if those are your needs [09:23] every distro can provide those things, however [09:24] i am using fedora right now ...and i get slow responses somehow [09:24] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:24] and many applications crash ...i hope i wont get that in slackware [09:24] nope [09:25] cobra-the-joker: i think it would be better, if you try slackware and come here if you have any issues [09:25] slackware is a lifestyle, you will never go back [09:25] oh ...i hope so [09:25] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:26] so ... where i begin ? [09:26] cobra-the-joker /topic has the link to dowload slack [09:26] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:26] xpose (n=cr@89.252.246.18) left irc: Client Quit [09:26] read the slack book [09:27] see if you like iy [09:27] it [09:27] ok [09:27] or try freebsd, it has a good handbook too [09:28] lol didnt know there was a linux specific google searcher [09:28] nope....i have to use linux [09:28] [3]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:28] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [09:28] what for [09:28] are you a student [09:28] support of the hardware [09:28] I am :P [09:28] and yeah i am a student [09:29] and in my opinion .... FreeBSD is not for PC's [09:29] slackware means you will be following instruxtions to compile from source sometimes [09:29] anyone use virtualbox on slackware64 ? [09:30] yes [09:30] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:30] setsquare , i have to install X11 my self :S ? [09:30] cobra-the-joker: nope , can't you try it ? at least in a VM? [09:30] for example my wifi card i had to compile from source to extract firmware to get it working [09:31] aha ...ok ok [09:31] no [09:31] x11 will come with the officail set [09:32] there is lots of software available for slack, [09:32] a package manager ? [09:32] check the list of packages on the official website [09:32] sortof [09:32] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:33] there is a program that lists installed programs n lets you install/ uninstall [09:33] but its not yum or apt [09:33] setsquare , without dependency resolution you meen ? [09:33] its more basic, thats how we like it [09:34] no, slackware gives you a full desktop by default, so you won't need to install x11 or kde on your own [09:34] cobra-the-joker: http://www.slackbook.org/html/package-management.html , read the book , [09:34] but there is no package manager that solves dependencies for you [09:34] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:34] there is dependency checking, but you can just install a package and you wont know waht dependency it needs till you run it, then you install that package [09:35] slackware means you will learn more [09:35] ubuntu is evil [09:35] not [09:36] ok ....i will download the iso ....and in the process i will read the book :D [09:36] use ubuntu or debian or mepis [09:36] if you want easy [09:36] it's all about your preference. you should seriously just try 2 or 3 more and find which you prefer. all distros can do the same thing, they just have a different way of doing them [09:36] setsquare: slackware and ubuntu has its own audience! [09:37] setsquare: easy would be i the eye of the beholder. [09:37] use slackware, learn how to compile the packages on whats that site callled [09:37] not linuxpackages [09:38] slackbuilds? [09:38] yeah [09:38] (http://www.slackbuilds.org_ [09:38] lol [09:38] Action: init[1] ahem ahem ... [09:38] learn how to compile programs from slackbuilds and you are on your way with slackware [09:39] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [09:39] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "End Of Line..." [09:39] read the slackbuild and info files [09:39] lol [09:39] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:39] someones brainwashed setsquare [09:39] I have to say that even building your own packages is a heck of a lot easier in slackware compared to other distros [09:40] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [09:40] trouble is that I cant be bothered to write slackbuilds for everything I compile so I just compile and install and forget about it until something doesn't work if I reinstall lol [09:41] well, if it's just for you, you don't need to go that route [09:41] I just create a build directory, have the source compile and install into there, and then use makepkg to make the package [09:41] I should really it would make things a lot more organized [09:41] it's worked for me [09:41] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:42] most general purpose apps are already in Slackware or on SlackBuilds.org. Writing your own scripts or installing from source shouldn't be necessary there. [09:43] i havent used slack for a few years and slackbuilds didnt exist then, just linuxmafia [09:43] how do I enable libsndfile? [09:44] Action: jescis is trying to instalol audacity [09:44] most stuff is over there but a lot is out of date :( [09:44] shouldn't be too hard to change the version number in the slackbuild [09:44] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:44] I've done it a few times without problems [09:44] do you have libsndfile intalled [09:45] depends on what your installing [09:45] ClaudioM: im doing tht now with surfraw [09:45] jescis: have you ever used sbopkg _search_ feature ? [09:45] init[1], no [09:45] usually during the slackbuild process, if something goes wrong it tells you [09:45] jescis: then install ,sbopkg , and search [09:46] and then it's just a matter of checking the script and making the change [09:46] sometimes it's a little more involved, but rare in my instances [09:46] jescis: you will feel better :) [09:46] oh [09:46] ok [09:46] jescis: www.sbopkg.org [09:46] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:46] yeah slackbuild for surfraw is ancient tho [09:47] so poke the maintainer ;) [09:48] true but just recently with slackware 13 I'm finding features etc are missing so I have to enable and disable stuff in the configuration. and things like bluez has a totally different api and backend so it requires lots of different modifications to the slackbuild. [09:49] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:50] im not sure wether i should be usin slack 12.2 instead of 13 what you guys think? [09:50] cobra-the-joker (n=cobra@41.178.201.180) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:50] lol its up to you really [09:51] init[1]: I finally got around to using sbopkg...quite nice [09:51] how are you finding 13 [09:51] I love 13 [09:51] both 32 and 64 [09:51] ClaudioM: ;) [09:51] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:51] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [09:52] Hence (n=Threefol@211.180.33.9) left irc: "Leaving" [09:53] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:54] I wouldn't mind seeing slackware 13 multilib :D [09:57] myung (n=myung@241.Red-88-14-35.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:57] what window manager do you guys use, my pc is too slow for kde [09:58] setsquare: xfce would suit you imo [09:58] yeah im using that now [09:59] ratpoison! [10:00] hahaha [10:00] uptimes (n=sg@ppp091138227022.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:01] I'm using KDE 4.2.4 [10:01] even on my old Athlon XP 2400+ [10:01] seems to run fine [10:01] old! [10:02] try piii 550 [10:02] lol [10:02] yeah you win [10:02] xfce I would say [10:02] ha! [10:02] although KDE 4 does run nicely if you disable the desktop effects [10:02] setsquare: wow. that's harsh. kde is unusable on p3 800. but this.. [10:02] not that it doesn't already with it on on my PC [10:02] raelaa (n=heather@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] ive used kde, it runs [10:03] ... [10:03] hey guys, if a laptop turns off, fans turn on, then turns off, what could be wrong? [10:03] I had used xfce 4.olderversion :-p on an old K6 system [10:03] seemed to run fine with that [10:03] i'd say it crawls [10:03] keeps trying to turn on but can't get far [10:03] do the logs say anything about it? [10:03] apparently it had blue lines on the screen, then when they turned it off, it kept doing that [10:04] fluxbox is the choice for that kind of hardware :p [10:04] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [10:04] raelaa: what were you using ? [10:04] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:04] raelaa: i mean the OS ? [10:04] init[1]: it's actually my parents' windows laptop [10:04] I think it has vista [10:05] but, this seems more like a hardware failure to m [10:05] *me [10:05] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-237-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] does the same thing happen under Vista? [10:05] it doesn't even get to turning the screen on [10:05] the laptop can't boot at all. turns on, fans come on, then turns off. takes about 5 seconds [10:06] raelaa: /join #windows or contact your service cent.. [10:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [10:06] init[1]: eh, I was just hoping someone would have an idea (since it seems hardware related). they have an extended warrenty that they can use [10:07] raelaa: ok, you said laptop , what are we suppose to assume about your laptop HW ? [10:07] try a slackwaare boot disk! [10:07] raelaa: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [10:08] setsquare: can't do a boot disk if the thing can't boot :P [10:08] it sounds like a hardware problem [10:08] yes, that is what I thought [10:08] pull it apart and put it back together [10:09] then take it to the shop [10:09] would probably violate the waranty. taking out the battery, letting it sit, then putting it back in doesn't work. it apparently was having problems with overheating recently, but it definitely isn't hot now [10:09] and remember to have fun [10:10] raelaa: can't you get the point? you don't even mention which vendor is your Lap , and how do you expect us to help you ? [10:10] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [10:10] init[1]: it is a stock hp pavilon dv9910us [10:10] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] is there a "lite" iso image of slackware to fit in a single cd? do i really have to download the full dvd? [10:10] uptimes (n=sg@ppp091138227022.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:10] anyone know how to send Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to qemu? [10:11] uptimes (n=sg@ppp091138227022.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:11] root (i=0@200-168-115-188.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:11] there is a slack based live cd [10:11] init[1]: because it seems like if hardware is at fault, the software definitely doesn't matter, and hardware brand maybe not as well. if the motherboard failed, it failed [10:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] Nick change: root -> Guest31732 [10:11] Nick change: Guest31732 -> thedoor [10:11] I don't have enough computer experience to know what each failure is like. I've had a harddrive fail, a cpu fail, and a powersource fail. it's not like any of those [10:11] hi guys [10:11] uptimes: its called slax [10:12] slax isnt slackware [10:12] setsquare i see [10:12] anyone can help a newbie? how can i set the X to start automatically during boot? [10:12] sahk0: how? [10:12] thedoor: read /etc/inittab [10:12] slax is not slackware, is there another solution to get a "thin" slackware? [10:12] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [10:12] use cd 1 [10:12] thedoor: /etc/inittab set id:3:initdefault: [10:13] thedoor: s/3/4/ [10:13] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:13] setsquare: how what? [10:13] how is ist not slackware [10:13] setsquare just cd 1 will do the job? [10:13] init[1], sbopkg is neato :-) [10:13] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs alien [10:13] setsquare: are you saying it is? wtf isnt it called slackware then? :) [10:13] setsquare: download only the required packages/what else you want and make your own iso [10:14] errr I think I did that at the wrong person. sorry [10:14] init[1], oh :) i changed the level of all ttys, but i forgeted the default level, i will try change it for 4 tks :D [10:14] uptimes: check the torrents section of the slack website, it has list of sets, see if that is all you need [10:15] stamp (n=AndChat@chello087206233091.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:15] is there anybody here who installed virtualbox-ose(3.0.12) from SBo with 2.6.29.6 kernel(stock generic) on slackware64-current? [10:15] thedoor (i=0@200-168-115-188.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:16] set these are "lite" flavours of slackware? [10:16] setsquare [10:16] there are software sets, raelaa has a good point tho [10:17] ok thanx [10:18] the torrents page will tell you ehat is on cd1 [10:18] the first time I installed slack, I went the make my own iso route so I could fit it on one cd. I think I left out d/, though :P but kept my /home dir, so I had it in there [10:19] Camarade_Tux: ping [10:19] so if i download only cd1, this would give me a properly installed slackware i suppose [10:20] but with no extras [10:20] without X [10:20] yes ok [10:20] Camarade_Tux: in qemu monitor type sendkey alt+ctrl+ [10:21] jescis: ;) [10:22] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:22] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [10:22] greetings [10:23] hello [10:23] Camarade_Tux: did that work ? [10:24] The-Croupier: yo [10:24] The-Croupier: screw you [10:24] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:24] pragma_: ?! [10:24] hiya init[1] [10:25] hows things guys? whats happening [10:25] good morning everyone [10:25] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Scuzz: screw you too [10:26] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:26] hahha [10:27] The-Croupier: Take your "hay guise, A/S/L?" and leave me alone [10:28] haha [10:28] init[1]: yeah :) [10:28] Camarade_Tux: ;) [10:29] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[10:34] thank you sir [10:34] what is the difference with all these shells, bash,ksh,csh,zsh....etc....:( dont get it... [10:34] Scuzz: its worth a trial [10:35] Scuzz: you will learn quite a lot,final when finished LFS i uses slackware pkg format [10:35] Scuzz: i had to quite coz i coudn't track the security issues [10:36] Scuzz: so a better one was slackware :P [10:36] lol yeah i see your point [10:36] i jsut want to learn what depends on what [10:36] and so forth [10:36] Scuzz: yea go ahead ;) [10:37] thanks , ill give it a go [10:37] Scuzz: mind would consume too much time , [10:37] mind yo [10:37] time i can afford [10:37] :) [10:38] stamp (n=AndChat@chello087206233091.chello.pl) left irc: "Bye" [10:39] julioc (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) joined ##slackware. [10:40] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:41] I don't want to install python on this machine but I want gvim: it complains about missing libpython2.6, *but* vim (no "g") works fine [10:41] any idea how I could have gvim working without python and without recompiling? [10:42] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:43] you're sure gvim is the only thing that will break while removing python? [10:44] there, yes [10:44] it's a virtual machine [10:44] ok :) then the answer, I think, is no; if it's linking to a shared python library as a run-time dep, the only solution is to recompile without python support [10:45] but why is "vim" working then? [10:45] run "ldd" on your gvim and vim binaries, and check out the differences [10:45] Kamel (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:46] yeah, vim has far less deps but I'm wondering why there's a difference [10:46] mac- (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:47] who knows; sometimes stuff in ap/ is compiled (I think, anyway) to be useful even in a more minimal environment [10:47] hello :) [10:47] where as stuff in xap/ , kind of assumes you have a slightly larger installation :) [10:47] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [10:47] in which packages I can get unrar ? [10:47] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:47] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:47] mac-: see slackbuilds.org [10:48] mac-: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/rar/ [10:48] thrice`: yeah, that's what I'm starting to think [10:48] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:49] but, I don't know how Pat does it :) usually things in ap/, while they could link to more stuff from l/ or d/, usually they are kept to require very slim dependencies :) [10:49] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [10:49] especially vim I guess [10:49] rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:49] gonna recompile it, unfortunately it'll take a pretty long time [10:49] hmmm [10:50] tmpnick1 (n=master@81.215.22.20) joined ##slackware. [10:50] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:51] hop, 4 tuzes in the virtual machine :) [10:51] Camarade_Tux: i think gvim uses pygtk [10:51] no, it doesn't [10:51] hm [10:51] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:51] it's a compile-time option [10:51] gonna recompile it [10:52] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [10:52] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:53] thrice`: Camarade_Tux i would like to do a ,'diff' a the same time when i do ldd /usr/bin/vim and /usr/bin/gvim ,i can't figure out the exact piping for it [10:53] thedoor (i=0@200-168-115-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:54] anyone know what is the akonadi server that strats with kde? [10:54] thedoor: its PIM service , [10:55] init[1], i got some errors when kde starts [10:55] something about the akonadi is not registered on D-bus [10:55] thedoor: you start kde as root? [10:55] pprkut, yep [10:56] thedoor: fwiw, it works fine for a normal (non-root) user [10:56] oh :) [10:56] let me try :D [10:56] pprkut: do you run kde (atm) [10:56] tks pprkut [10:56] ? [10:56] init[1], I don't think you can do them at the same time; just output them each to a text file and diff them: ldd /usr/bin/vim >> vim.txt; ldd /usr/bin/gvim >> gvim.txt; diff -u {g,}vim.txt [10:56] tks init[1] [10:57] sahk0: yes [10:57] pprkut: do you have a mysqld process running? [10:57] thedoor: yea that is what i know off , [10:57] Axius (n=ade@92.82.85.149) joined ##slackware. [10:57] thrice`: ^ [10:57] thedoor: np [10:57] sahk0: yes [10:57] pprkut: is that the default? [10:58] well, I start mysql on boot ;) [10:58] cause i just noticed it. its using 25mb and i cant believe i hadnt noticed before [10:58] hmm, im not [10:58] akonadi by default uses the mysql embedded server [10:58] so mysqld shouldnt start? [10:59] however, I configured almost everything to use the server process I start up at boot [10:59] hmm [10:59] sahk0: not sure. I haven't played a lot with the embedded server [11:00] wait, everything back. amarok uses embedded server [11:00] akonadi should use the standard mysql server, but with all paths contained to the home folder [11:01] so, yes, there should be a mysqld process running [11:01] ok, thanks [11:02] its running as user so its obviously not started from rc.d [11:02] yeah [11:03] now let me care about appearence :P [11:03] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-163.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:03] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] anyone know i good firefox theme that combine with kde default theme? :D [11:04] thedoor: did you first ran /usr/bin/xfsettingsd &? [11:05] init[1], what it do? [11:05] thedoor: it's called kfirefox [11:05] :) [11:05] v 0.16 [11:05] thedoor: run firefox ,and run that [11:05] i wonder if i should get rid of all that semantic desktop stuff [11:06] init[1], nothing happend [11:07] init[1], oh :) [11:07] the default theme has chaged for something more friendly :D [11:07] tks init[1] :D [11:08] im looking for a way to have folders,files,scripts in differnet colors..in terminal...what is that called..cos google gives me lots of crap... [11:08] init[1], sorry for abusing of you knowledge , im a newbie on slackware, i come from ubuntu 9.10 :P [11:08] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [11:08] The-Croupier, like, "ls --color=auto" ? [11:09] thedoor: np, but promise us that you will use slackware and will never return :P [11:10] to ubuntu [11:10] init[1]: lol [11:10] The-Croupier: ;) [11:10] thrice`: hmmm :( not working...:( [11:10] init[1],im very happy with slackware, it give me some liberty that ubuntu doesn't [11:10] i downloaded colorls and aliased it...) [11:10] The-Croupier: do this [11:11] The-Croupier: /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh [11:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:11] The-Croupier: run than in .bashrc [11:11] thrice`: ;) diff <(ldd /usr/bin/vim ) <(ldd /usr/bin/gvim ) [11:12] ChArLoK_16 (n=Abdurrah@188.247.10.113) joined ##slackware. [11:12] woah, neat :) [11:12] thrice`: ;) [11:13] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:13] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-162-37.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:13] Nick change: julioc -> julioc|zzz [11:13] [2]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:14] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-225-189.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] [4]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [11:16] The-Croupier: did that work ? [11:18] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:18] Action: init[1] gota rush cya soon [11:18] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [11:19] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-56-113.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] goood, gvim without python deps :) [11:24] Axius (n=ade@92.82.85.149) left irc: "Leaving" [11:28] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [11:30] GailFroid (n=gfroid@24.159.166.178) joined ##slackware. [11:30] thedoor (i=0@200-168-115-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:30] nathanbw (n=user@24-117-63-230.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [11:31] GailFroid (n=gfroid@24.159.166.178) left irc: "Leaving" [11:32] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [11:32] [4]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:33] I absolutely never use that: is it possible to have slackware autostart in X without a login manager? (there is no password on the root account) [11:34] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) joined ##slackware. [11:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] dakarn (n=skas@109.114.51.125) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:40] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Nick change: _Pinnen -> Pinnen [11:45] grrrr, can I kill pcmanfm? I hate "warning: you are in super user mode" warnings... [11:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) left irc: [11:50] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-115-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:50] ok, my system is working fine now ?) [11:50] i just need to install the flash player [11:50] the 32 bits of flash player will work fine on 64bits slackware [11:51] thedoor, check the extra directory on your 64 bit cd [11:52] thedoor, no, you should use the 64-bit flash player :) [11:52] let me try ?) [11:52] :) [11:53] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [11:55] Scuzz, the slackbuild extension file should be run using the shell [11:55] os with slapkg [11:55] ? [11:55] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:57] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [11:58] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.132.111) joined ##slackware. [11:59] tks :D [11:59] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [12:00] they have a slackbuild forthe flash plugin now? [12:00] yes [12:01] what's with the "now"? [12:01] been there for ages [12:01] but all you needn to do is dl it form the official flash website untar the libflash*.so and then cp it to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ [12:01] takes not even 5 mins [12:01] lol, french tanks have six gears, 5 reverse, and one forward in case they are ever attacked from behind [12:02] I prefer using a slackbuild for flash, makes for ease of package upgrades later. [12:02] i just use the script in /extra [12:03] sure [12:03] spook: slap him for me, thanks :) [12:03] I don't even know where that comes from... [12:03] [1]rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:03] rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [12:04] bash.org [12:04] Camarade_Tux: i thought you'd like it [12:04] instaling the flashplayer [12:04] i hope it works fine :) [12:04] it jsut seems having a slackbuild for flash is a bit ridiculous [12:04] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.170.5) joined ##slackware. [12:05] spook: he ;-) [12:05] toastytoast: makes updating easier [12:05] Camarade_Tux: couldn't gdm do that ? i mean even if gdm is present ,at run level 4 a autologin the account nullify login manager [12:05] s/a/an/ [12:05] crap s/the/ / [12:06] the script in "extra" directory just install the flash player for mozilla, but no for firefox, i just need to copy the files to the firefox dir on "lib64" ? [12:06] init[0]: oh, gdm, I had forgotten that thing [12:06] Nick change: mmlj4 -> WD5AJK [12:06] Nick change: WD5AJK -> mmlj4 [12:06] Camarade_Tux: it doesn't have much depen, one libgnomecanvas [12:07] w/e [12:07] bah =/ [12:07] oh, gdm, I was thinking xdm [12:07] i assume the flash slackbuild works better than the ubuntu flash package right [12:07] it'll probably be xdm or slim [12:07] thedoor: no it does it for all browsers that are compatible with mozilla plugins. which includes firefox. [12:07] toastytoast, no, they are the same [12:08] i've had problems getting the ubuntu package to work ho [12:08] bbl, compressin 1.7GB / 10GB with xz and rzip, -9 for both [12:08] i restart the firefox but the plugin are no there [12:08] so has one of my friends [12:08] i need to restart the session? [12:08] (1.7GB on the disk, and 8.3GB of "holes") [12:08] toastytoast: works really well [12:09] thedoor: no [12:09] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:09] thedoor: copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins/ {libflashplayer.so} [12:10] i'm not aware of 64bit install,i assume both to be same [12:10] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [12:11] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [12:13] init[0], if i copy it for /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.5/plugins/ it will install for all users right? [12:13] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.92) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] it should yes [12:13] :D [12:13] installed [12:13] tks :D [12:14] with sound working fine :D [12:14] other browsers look in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins though, I think [12:14] same times i got problem with soud on flash player, but it works on the first time :D [12:14] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.131) joined ##slackware. [12:15] rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:15] rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [12:18] the ubuntu have a update-manager that search and show me the updates avaible for all packages in my system, the slackware have something like that? :P [12:19] we have slackpkg [12:19] hum.. [12:19] the slackpkg do that? [12:19] or "cringe" slapt-get [12:19] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] hello all! [12:20] "slackpkg check-updates" ? [12:20] I never got clear the issue about hd and sd [12:20] when using slackware [12:20] unlike ubunut there isn't a huge repository for slackware slackpkg works fro all official slackware updates third party packaes liek flash pler no [12:21] atleast not6 that i know of off the top of my head [12:21] jezebelle (i=collete1@41.236.13.252) joined ##slackware. [12:21] I am doing a install right now (12.1 slackware)...and the hard drives are hda etc, but I heard there was some cd-rom issues with that [12:22] thedoor; http://www.slackpkg.org/documentation.html [12:22] and it would be slackpkg updat the slackpkg upgrade-all [12:22] how do I install and use sd instead? [12:22] ? [12:22] elliot98, why such an old slackware version? [12:22] that's what I have around...it's not that old [12:22] it's that old :) [12:22] maybe a year 1/2 old [12:22] now i getting up my backup :P [12:23] 34,8 GB :D [12:23] yeah and i've never had a problem with hda* and cdrom [12:23] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:23] the optical drive will show up in /dev/ as hdc i beleive [12:23] people, my english is fine? sometimes i think im talking the thing worng :( [12:23] it's an dma or something issue on laptops [12:23] elliot98: if you have issues with cfdisk , then do cfdisk /dev/hda ,assumeing hda tobe your hd [12:23] elliot98: there must be kernel flag set up - hda=nohda or something like that [12:23] elliot98, closer to 2 years old [12:24] elliot98, i'm running 12 on a laptop; no issues with hd** [12:24] it was specifically dell [12:24] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [12:24] elliot98: where exactly did you face it issue ? [12:24] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:24] s/it/the/ [12:26] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:26] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-12.1-dell-d520-notebook-detects-hd-as-sda-vs-hda-642100/?highlight=hda%3Dnoprobe [12:27] then use a newer version of slackware [12:27] 2.6.24+ should detect stuff nicer [12:27] newer versions default to SATA? [12:27] not necessarily [12:27] what do you mean, default to SATA? [12:27] this is my own opinion, but I don't think 2 years a such a long time [12:28] it can be in the linux world [12:28] so in the newer versions, I should also pass hda=nprobe? [12:28] the kernel started doing alot more sd* stuff in more recent kernels [12:29] true true...the linux world is fast paced, but in terms of commercial and consumer deployment, it is not that long [12:29] i think 12.1 detected laptop hdds as sd** becasue it used scsi emulation or somehting liek that [12:29] then use whatever you want [12:29] the solution is displayed in the forums [12:29] gotcha [12:29] for a new installation, I see no reason to use an older release, personally [12:29] just in terms of obsolesence, that's all [12:30] oh, I have 12.2 on an external hard driver [12:30] how do I boot my computer to install that version? [12:30] I prefer to stick with a KDE3 system for now (ie not version 13) [12:31] elliot98, install the version, set up LILO [12:31] you should be able to mount your extermal once you've booted then jsut have slackware install from a premounted directory [12:31] elliot98: USB + mount external + set path in setup wizard would do it [12:31] even though the 12.1 version is the bootup? [12:31] USBboot [12:31] are you going to overwrite the 12.1 install with 12.2? [12:32] I have this: 12.1 disc #1 on cdrom, 12.2 dvd iso (loopback device) on external backup hard disk (non-bootable) [12:33] you could always just burn the iso [12:33] oh: no empty dvd or cdrom discs [12:33] o_0 [12:33] elliot98: do you have a usb pen drive ? [12:33] you can mount he usb device mount the iso then you can set it to install froem a pre mounted directory [12:33] can I use the 12.1 cdrom disc to bootup and then use the 12.2 directory? [12:34] i've done it opnce becasue i was bored [12:34] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:34] just want to know if there would be a version conflict [12:34] elliot98, see toastytoast, above [12:34] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [12:34] ok! [12:34] I'll give it a shot! [12:34] bbl! [12:34] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:34] Action: eviljames claps his hands excitedly [12:34] "later" is relative [12:34] here's hoping! [12:35] hope that goes well [12:35] heh, i'm predicting a failure/blame##slackware combo coming back in 3 hours [12:35] lol [12:35] let's hope not [12:35] it shouldn't fail unles she does something wrong [12:35] unless he* [12:36] What do we think, Acer 21.5" or LG 22" (for $20 more)? [12:36] eviljames: atm i'm using Acer 19 [12:36] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:36] eviljames: np till now ,2+ yrs [12:36] init[0]: colours & contrast ratio are all good? [12:37] i booted from a 12 diskc and installed 12.2 on one of my laptop befor ebecasue i was bored and wanted to see if i could and it worked perfectly [12:37] This actually makes me really mad, because I wanted to buy some new monitor speakers today, but instead I'm giong out for a new monitor :( [12:38] eviljames: fine for me , though , my model AL1916W [12:38] Action: toastytoast is happy with his 22" crt atym d(^.^)b [12:38] Action: init[0] suggest toastytoast to go green [12:38] crt? [12:39] Action: init[0] crt != power saver [12:39] man, it's time to retire that fossil [12:39] send it to a museum or something [12:39] well, i quitting now, thanks 4 all :) [12:39] bye [12:39] nah, could be even nice for movies [12:39] thedoor: remember the promise [12:39] as a second screen [12:39] init[0], promise? [12:40] it not thyat old of monito and plus i get 2048x1536 res [12:40] toastytoast: i retract my derisive comments, that's a hilariously high resolutino [12:40] http://support.gateway.com/s/Manuals/Desktops/8508867/08867.htm [12:40] have to admit, i'm still running an old trinitron 21" [12:40] love that monitor [12:40] could use something lighter than 80lbs [12:41] lol [12:41] but that's just being picky [12:41] thedoor: http://pastebin.com/m59a4f4e4 [12:41] i like this monitor plus i got it was a freebie [12:41] init[0], oh, sure :D [12:41] altho i supose the power it uses isn't exactly cheap but it ins't too bad [12:42] return to ubunut :P [12:42] never^ [12:42] init[0], i think me and slackware will stick toghether for a long time :) [12:42] thedoor: cya soon back here :) [12:42] ok , i will be back later, now i will go the cinema see 2012 :D [12:42] tks bye! [12:43] hahaah hilarious promise [12:43] eviljames: ;) [12:43] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-115-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:43] i've used slackware on my desktops for 3 years now but i suee to use ubuntu on my laptops [12:43] that is until suspend no longer worked [12:43] flash player started being a bitch to get working [12:43] then i was like no and stopped useing ubuntu all togehter [12:44] Then you realized: "Where can I go for a distro that doesn't randomly change, like a schizophrenic sister, every 2 weeks." [12:44] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.132.111) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:44] and it dawned on toastytoast "Of course, SLACKWARE." [12:44] lol [12:44] toastytoast: imo,you can use ubuntu to know all the feature of your lapi that would work out of box in ubunut and which may not in slackware,so that you can tweak slacky [12:44] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:45] I hate to say it, but init[0] is right. A lot of stuff will 'auto-magically' work in ubuntu's live cds and whatnot. [12:46] oh damn, the Antec 300 is ~$50 right now.. looks like someone is going on a shopping spree :P [12:47] shiny. [12:47] BP{k}: I had the only monitor in my house die sometime in the night.. i was really attached to that monitor [12:47] it had seen a lot, and i had seen a lot through it. [12:47] ...greiving is hard, i'm gonna go shopping! [12:47] eviljames: :( ugh that sucks man. [12:48] BP{k}: yeah, but I was living in the stone age too. 19" lcd, 4:3 aspect ratio [12:48] time to move on [12:49] maybe1 (n=may_be@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [12:50] hello again [12:50] HI!!!!!!!!! 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[13:29] I forgot to specify the amount of memory and it defaulted to 128MB >< [13:30] back-ups? [13:30] but it's ok, the partition is back in a good state and it wasn't broken only a bit damaged, plus it had almost nothing and I hadn't written anything valuable in months [13:30] Bassist (n=bass@mnch-5d85621c.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] good to hear:) [13:30] yeah :) [13:31] alienBOB: in your pcmanfm slack-desc, there is "It's interface is GTK+-2 based.", <- s/It's/Its/ ;-) [13:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Client Quit [13:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [13:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] rajin (n=rajin@c147044.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Connection timed out [13:37] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:07] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) left irc: "later" [15:09] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:09] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [15:09] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [15:14] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.128.57) joined ##slackware. [15:17] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [15:19] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:19] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:21] how can i paste bin my kernel? [15:21] Mibaezjr2k: do what? [15:22] paste bin my compiled kernel [15:22] you probably don't want to pastebin the kernel itself, maybe pastebin the config [15:22] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [15:22] antiwire that should be under /linux/kernel right? [15:22] ? [15:23] shredder12 (n=shredder@proxy.iiit.ac.in) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [15:23] that sdhould be under/usr/src/linux/kernel [15:24] the config for a running kernel can be extracted with 'zcat /proc/config.gz > myconfig' and the config location in the kernel source is /usr/src/$KERNELSOURCE/.config [15:25] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@79.114.85.238) joined ##slackware. [15:25] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host81-135-84-191.range81-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:29] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:45] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) left irc: [15:46] i stay away from things with too many Ks [15:46] yeah yeah we know [15:46] :P [15:49] Do you have a suggestion of an equivalent replacement? [15:50] Something that don't force me to take wild guesses about the main Title [15:50] its a cd burning app right? because i use dd/cdrecord/growisofs [15:50] no it is not [15:50] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:50] k9copy is a dvd reauthoring tool [15:50] it can burn but its main purpose is reauthoring [15:51] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:51] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik|afk [15:51] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Hello, [15:51] Hello bonsoir, antiwire [15:51] what up [15:52] oh...i have not made a dvd in a long long time.. but i think last time i used http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/ [15:52] All I really need is to take a full DVD9 image and create an image that has no menus, no captions and only the feature title with default audio tracks [15:53] make that fit on a DVD4 [15:53] k9copy apparently uses dvdauthor [15:53] yea, i think they pretty much all do... [15:53] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] last couple of times i just used OSX, they have a nice little app...but closed source and not linux compatible [15:55] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-163.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [15:56] k9copy was working fine for me. I have no idea what broke. I even rebuilt ffmpeg, transcode and dvdauthor and then rebuilt k9copy. 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[16:03] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] it takes as long to unpack and configure ff 3.5.5 source as it does to compile a colonel [16:06] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:06] bbl [16:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:06] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:07] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:07] ChArLoK_16 (n=Abdurrah@188.247.15.43) left irc: "leaving" [16:09] id like to know how many of you in here play The Game? [16:11] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:22] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.128.57) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:23] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] hello [16:24] hi [16:25] mancha, 2 minutes is not bad... [16:25] macavity, and you are just sad because you lost [16:25] joiklo: try this in your xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/d359ca493 [16:25] i know i was exaggermanating a bit [16:26] what took me longest was to wade through the build docs to arrive at my compile option set. ima happy with the one i have now. [16:30] edman007: so did you :P [16:30] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Action: nix_chixOr trips edman007 [16:33] i was trying to compile kdebluetooth (the kde4 version) on slack13 [16:33] and first cmake reported a trouble about "hidden visibility" in qt build [16:34] and then it had a compile error .. [16:34] a "class members missing" type of error ..not sure may be some missing headers or something [16:35] but qt4 in slack13 is proper odd build to me ;( [16:35] why it's all sitting in /usr/lib/ ?? [16:36] the headers and everything else seems to be there ..and the version is of the pakage is strangly numbered .. [16:37] does patrick have something against qt now? may it will be gone like gnome a few releases ago?? [16:37] No idea what you are talking about [16:37] The version is "strange" because it's qt-copy from the KDE trunk iirc, rather than a mainline stable Qt release [16:37] But I could be wrong [16:38] But kdebluetooth (kde4 version) will not work with Slackware 13 because it requires a newer BlueZ [16:38] alienBOB: Do you know if there are plans for the newer bluez to be added? [16:38] btw, why doesn't X get installed from 3 first cds [16:38] a-bob, if i u/g cairo on a 12.x box, can you estimate the time i'll spend rebuilding other stuff? hours or days? [16:39] in 13.0 [16:39] mancha: too many characters were left out of that sentence to make sense to me [16:39] bad images or does it need 4th cd too? [16:39] joiklo: of course X gets installed, but only if you tell the installer to do so [16:40] ah, ok ..so i posibly should pull out the newest bluez ..hm [16:40] KDE is on CD3, but X itself on CD2 [16:40] u/g was upgrade, if i upgrade cairo on a 12.x box, how much time spent updating other stuff (prompted by the cairo u/g) [16:40] whant be an issue, isn't it? or may be some hald related shit could come up? [16:40] alienBob, it's not even on menu, it installs if i do it manually from mounted image [16:41] hm ..what about old kdebluetooth? may be that could work ok?? [16:41] i really need bluetooth stuff on the desktop here! [16:41] i was wondering maybe something has changed about installation since 12.1 [16:42] errordeveloper: bluetooth does work fine for me on 13 and current though [16:42] is there some other option? like a stand-alone BT gui? [16:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:42] antiwire: well, i bet it does [16:42] I configured the bluetooth configs and all I have to do is turn on my mouse and it connects [16:43] but i need gui stuff for the user, who is my girlfriend ;) [16:43] hey, i explained my mnemonics! [16:43] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:43] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [16:44] mancha: it's up to you to find out [16:44] antiwire: i need it for connecting a mobile phone, there no really other options with here sonyericson mobile [16:44] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-237-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:44] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [16:44] sure that's one way, but since you pretty much built 64 from scratch i thought you might have gut feeling about the amount of deps [16:45] how'd you like the kde on 13.0? [16:45] alienBOB: by the way gsb works pretty well with 64 [16:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:46] TClayton: I would not think otherwise [16:46] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:46] mancha: a lot of things link to cairo [16:48] joiklo: "it is not even on menu" ... what menu? Of the installer selection dialog? In that case you do not have an original Slackware DVD/CD set [16:48] errordeveloper: I don't have that phone myself, but a quick google brought up "tsemgr". It might be what you're looking for. [16:48] wertik|afk (n=wertik@95-24-53-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:48] ok, so it'll imply a bit of work. thanks. i'll see if system fonte rendering is really important to me then. [16:48] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] alienBob, yes i think probably those iso's are somehow falty, since dvd iso installed everything normally [16:50] took the dvd iso from a different place [16:50] errordeveloper: this should be interesting to you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kbluetooth4-for-slackware-13-current-771179/ [16:52] alienBOB: ah, thanx [16:52] i couldn't google that one out ;)~ [16:56] joiklo: did you use the checksums? [16:57] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.131) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:00] antiwire, no [17:03] it's bad isos, i think because X option didn't come on first dialog at all, but in dvd it came. [17:03] ... [17:03] so use the checksums and stop guessing [17:04] haven't really used those [17:04] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-163.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] yoyo [17:05] I bought my new server! [17:06] got 2 computers for 50 bucks. [17:06] threw the dvd-rom+20gb hd from one into the other [17:06] hopeing i got the IDE set up correctly [17:06] 10-local.rules [17:06] crap sorry wrong terminal [17:07] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Anyone know if you can have a device set to master on BOTH IDE channels? [17:07] no you can't [17:07] how would that work anyway? [17:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:07] i have my dvd-rom set to master on the red IDE wire [17:07] well because they are differnt channels [17:08] and hey, ive never done this befor [17:08] two channels...one unique master per channel [17:08] ... [17:08] but dvd slave and hd master [17:08] put [17:08] beatzz: you need to really study for that test lol [17:08] ok, but heres the deal [17:08] 2 harddrives [17:08] 1 dvdrom [17:08] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Reconnecting" [17:08] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] the dvdrom is on the red ribbon, the 2 HD's are on the blue ribbon [17:09] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:09] put the DVD rom on the opposite channel of the hard disk you plan to be copying to/from the dvd rom [17:09] dude wtf with the colors? [17:09] as it is. [17:09] well the red ribbion looks like a 40wire/40pin [17:09] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:09] blue ribbon, looks like 80wire/40pin [17:10] BOTH towers i bought have both red/blue ribbons [17:10] use the 80c/40p cable for the disks and the 40c/40p for the optical drive. [17:10] that looks the same [17:10] antiwire: thats how its set up [17:10] dvdrom is master of red [17:10] so what are you asking then? [17:10] my question is [17:10] can the blue ribbon have a master? [17:11] each channel should have 1 master. [17:11] ok [17:11] you can have a master and a slave on each channel [17:11] pro status, thats how i have it [17:11] now whats this [17:11] pro status lol [17:11] "cs" [17:11] cable select [17:11] don't use that. [17:11] You can also use cable-select [17:11] dont use it [17:11] ;-) [17:11] lol [17:11] hehe [17:11] NOthing wrong with cable select here [17:12] allrighty, i dont have a monitor, or any cables or cords. [17:12] so i wont be able to tell if i did everything correctly till ... [17:12] who knows. [17:12] Usually it's fine but there are some disk/chipset combos which I have used that bomb out with CS [17:12] so check this out, my new box is like this [17:13] cool story, bor [17:13] P4 1.8Ghz / 256 sdram/100gb total hd space/dvd-rom [17:13] damn [17:13] for 50 bucks. [17:13] old disks are better to set manually rather than cs, i think, no surprises there then [17:13] uptimes (n=sg@ppp091138227022.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] beatzz: that will be a decent system but the ram will end up killing you [17:14] gana be a DHCP server, a DNS server, an Apache server, Samba server [17:14] so on an so forth [17:14] I'm guessing that is an RDRAM based system [17:14] ? [17:14] rambus mayhem [17:15] no idea. [17:15] dude you need to know this for your tests [17:15] BUH [17:15] haha [17:15] no way, hardware had nothing in it about rambus [17:16] unless they are expecting me to do suplimental research, outside of the study guide [17:16] which would blow. [17:16] what is the motherboard's model # [17:16] let me open her up again [17:16] beatzz: considering the massive fail of your study guide...probably [17:17] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:18] i see some numbers that are burnt onto the board [17:18] e210822 [17:18] usually the model # is silkscreened [17:19] printed? [17:19] but that e210822 number suggests and intel 845 [17:19] and/an [17:19] which, thankfully for you, is a DDR board [17:19] beatzz: sometimes its between 2 pci slots [17:20] TClayton: negitive [17:20] antiwire: sweet [17:20] beatzz: is this system an OEM system or a homebuilt? [17:20] brb gota get my kid off the xmas tre [17:20] im not shure.. [17:20] guy i bought it from looks like he builds him [17:20] him/um* [17:20] is it branded compaq/dell/hp.....? [17:21] nope [17:21] "PLANO/n M&A" is on the front [17:21] \n* [17:22] like newline -_- [17:22] without a monitor, how do you plan to install slackware? [17:23] exactly... [17:23] i have to wait till my brother gets him [17:23] go to his house [17:23] boot, pray it works, install slack if it dose, then take it home [17:23] and ssh it from there [17:23] once i get it on my router [17:24] when you do a slack install enough times you dont need a monitor, you remember the keystrokes [17:24] what's on what menu [17:24] Action: sadsfae chuckles [17:25] so [17:26] considering everything works, and i get slack installed [17:26] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [17:26] this box, intended as a server, where should i mount the 80gb hd? [17:26] /var/ ? [17:26] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [17:27] Just focus on getting slackware installed on a single disk first [17:27] an extra disk? [17:27] yea, 2 disks, one 20gb one 80gb [17:27] you can change the filesystem layout later [17:27] i have 20gb as master on blue ribbon [17:27] 80 as slave [17:27] JockMcNasty (n=iain@delphinus.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:28] well, from what u have all said, it sounds like it should work. [17:28] as far as me installing the IDE devices [17:28] I figured out my k9copy issue...PEBKAC [17:28] i always do everything install first to see if everything works, then install just what i need [17:29] gana go rest for a bit [17:29] deco, hou hou =) [17:29] fredoslack: ca va ? :P [17:29] deco, i've found new smileys lol [17:29] peace all, thanks for the advice [17:29] deco, yes impecc merci [17:29] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:29] and you ? [17:29] fredoslack: fine, thanks, [17:30] deco, i have reinstalled Vista [17:30] fredoslack: lol why ?:P [17:30] tomorrow, i will install Slack [17:30] 64 [17:30] =) [17:30] i've got 2 partitions, deco [17:30] fredoslack: oh nice :) [17:31] deco, =) [17:31] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:31] deco, slack64 [17:32] current [17:32] hi hi [17:32] with kde 4.3.3 [17:32] mmmmh [17:32] :} [17:32] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.225) joined ##slackware. [17:32] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] For the person who was having crashing issues with k9copy and no errors reported....check to make sure that *all* of the configure filesystem paths point to a directory which actually exists -_- [17:34] configure/configured* [17:35] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:35] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] ah it was maddslacker [17:36] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "leaving" [17:37] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [17:38] JockMcNasty (n=iain@delphinus.demon.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:38] jgor_ (i=jgor@rrcs-67-78-117-190.sw.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:38] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] jgor (n=jgor@174.143.174.190) left irc: "leaving" [17:38] Nick change: jgor_ -> jgor [17:38] anybody installed nvidia driver? i d/l nvidia.x.x.x,run file [17:39] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start" [17:39] joiklo, use the slackbuilds [17:39] I use the 190.42 driver for my chipset [17:39] I also don't use the SBo build for it [17:40] the plain old installer works fine and even creates file backups for you [17:40] is it just a script? [17:40] antiwire, you don't have to use them, of course, but why wouldn't you? It apparently changes some of xorg's default files [17:40] hiptobecubic: it changes them but the installer backups up those files [17:41] you can use the uninstall option to restore. [17:41] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [17:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:41] joiklo: chmod +x to the file and execute it in runlevel 3, not 4 or 1 [17:41] ok, i go try [17:42] joiklo (n=jhjhjh@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: "Leaving" [17:42] 10 bucks says he comes back with fail since he didn't stay for the xorg.conf speech [17:45] antiwire: lack of patience is almost as good as utter stupidity ;-) [17:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.131) joined ##slackware. [17:47] joiklo (n=jhjhjh@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:48] seems to be working that was an easy installation [17:50] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:50] is there some test i could run [17:50] antiwire: damnit.. i should have taken the bet :P [17:53] haha [17:56] tripFantstic (i=1000@c-68-56-213-166.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] where can i put setxkbmap command so it will load correct language when X starts? [17:58] ~/.initrc? [17:58] psychonaut (n=admin@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:58] or something similar, so wont have to type that everytime i start X, there was some .conf file had that but've forget which one it is [17:58] not that [17:59] it wasn't really setxkbmap command but something which did the same [18:00] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-129-179.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:00] how do you start x usually? [18:00] inittab 4 [18:00] ah [18:00] psychonaut (n=admin@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Client Quit [18:01] etc/rc.d/rc.4 then [18:01] could be it was something in xorg.conf [18:01] nop; that file just has "vars" settings for x11 [18:01] no scripting allowed there [18:02] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [18:02] yes, but maybe there is an option to set the language? [18:02] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:02] not in x.conf [18:02] what do you specifically wnt to do? [18:02] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [18:03] setxkbmap fi [18:04] what does setxbmap do? [18:04] locale for Finland? [18:05] that gives finnish chracters on terminal [18:05] pl [18:05] in X [18:05] ok; is locale set properly in /etc/profile? [18:05] the LANG var? [18:06] there was some file in X config where i used to put it, but can't remember which one it was [18:06] Forecast for Espoo (FI): Sun: Light Rain Low: 40F/4.44C High: 41F/5.00C Mon: Showers Low: 38F/3.33C High: 41F/5.00C [18:06] no, those work on console [18:06] but x picks up the LANG var from the shell too iinm [18:06] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [18:07] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [18:07] apparently it doesn't, since it doesn't work on terminal [18:07] k [18:07] did you ask in ##Xwindow or ##X11? [18:08] “ºº“ [18:08] I think /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi defines my keymap, unless I remember something wrong. [18:09] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] no, didn't know those channel existed :) [18:09] k [18:10] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "leaving" [18:11] DarkGable (n=ray@76.114.161.73) joined ##slackware. [18:12] joiklo (n=jhjhjh@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: "Leaving" [18:13] DarkGable (n=ray@76.114.161.73) left irc: Client Quit [18:13] DarkGable (n=ray@76.114.161.73) joined ##slackware. [18:13] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [18:14] josefig: look over any of the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.* files [18:15] me? [18:15] josefig: as you will see all of them makes sure that .Xresources and .Xmodmap work as intended [18:15] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:15] joiklo (n=jhjhjh@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [18:16] anyhow, time for me to hit the bunk [18:16] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the fish!" [18:16] joiklo (n=jhjhjh@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [18:17] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:18] joiklo (n=jhjhjh@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [18:20] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left ##slackware. [18:20] kx-a74 (n=kx-a74@67.Red-79-150-224.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] i have spent an hour on google trying to find the user manual for the Panasonic KX-A74 Tone Remote Controller. can anyone help? [18:21] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:21] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:23] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:25] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:26] and somehow you think a slackware linux irc channel is the place to turn to? [18:27] anyone want google wave invite? [18:28] I got one, just to read the Terms&Conditions - then I logged out :) [18:28] juice: me :D [18:29] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start" [18:29] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:29] got a gmail account? [18:29] juice: yeah [18:29] and the addy? [18:29] juice: what addy ? [18:29] Action: antiwire readies the spam gun [18:30] your gmail address, duh! [18:30] lol [18:30] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] antiwire: hahaha [18:30] antiwire: forget gun, get the cannon. [18:30] joiklo (n=jhjhjh@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: "Leaving" [18:30] i have 14 invites to get rid of [18:31] "spam-cannon" now that's hilarious [18:31] Nick change: antiwire -> SpamCannon [18:31] \o/ [18:31] heh [18:31] guys rc.ntpd is ntp server or client service? [18:31] this is freakin hillarious. [18:32] This nick is awesome [18:32] register it while it's hot. :P [18:32] i did [18:32] awesome [18:32] its a script but it starts a daemon/relay, in its latter incarnation serves in a sense as a client-side tool [18:33] most accurately called a daemon that can be made to sync with other daemons further up the root tree [18:34] Nick change: merciful_ -> psychonautlib [18:34] juice: pm ? [18:34] jakemills (n=jakemill@89.243.12.38) joined ##slackware. [18:34] deco: it took you a while, did you have to go look up what it was? [18:34] is here a list of wireless drivers that work straight away with slackware? [18:35] we saw you looking at the numbers on your house. [18:35] jakemills: you can just look at the stock kernel configs [18:36] there used to be a site for linux wireless, they detailed what worked out of the box, what required firmware only, what required full driver sets, etc. [18:36] ask senor goog, "linux wireless" and pray the link i have in mind percolates upwards [18:36] SpamCannon: I am very new to linux and have a copy of slackware essentials from when I bought 12.2 - I want to go through and learn it now I have the time but don't really knw how to check the stock kernel settings :-S [18:36] fair enough [18:37] mancha: senor goog is an a-hole [18:37] :D [18:37] jakemills: Generally speaking, If the kernel supports the chipset, Slackware *probably* will too. [18:38] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] psychonautlib (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "leaving" [18:38] jakemills: also check here http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices [18:38] dakarn (n=skas@109.114.51.125) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:39] psychonautlib (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:39] SpamCannon: apparently the kernel supports it, so I may be in luck. I've not really had problems with live cd's running intel wireless devices before but was worried Slackware would have a more streamline kernel and not support it [18:40] jakemills: which intel chipset is it? [18:40] my 3945 works perfectly [18:40] jakemills: most everything is in kernel modules [18:41] SpamCannon: pro wireless 5100 [18:41] Action: snL20 doesnt trust wireless though [18:41] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:42] snL20: neither do i... but i do need it for work and play ^_^ [18:42] snL20 it is only in module presentation if so requested, heretofore, by user (henceforth "THE USER") during configuration of the linux system kernel (henceforth "KERNEL") on said computer system (henceforth "THE SYSTEM") [18:43] jakemills: hehe, I just use a long ethernet cable [18:43] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:44] mancha: uhm... slackware does include kernel modules ... you just have to load them right? or has things changed since I used it ? [18:44] snL20: let me just check my trusty slackware essentials [18:44] jakemills: I have the first ed of that book :) [18:45] i believe you are accurate in affirming that stock slackware kernels, do indeed, build a lot of things in the form of loadable modules :) [18:45] snL20: i doubt a lot has changed :) [18:45] jakemills: ;) [18:49] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75.9.90.101) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:49] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [18:49] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) joined ##slackware. [18:50] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:51] it r eggnog and rum tiem noe? [18:52] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [18:55] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.92.87.239) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] Scuzz (n=scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] pna v unm fhz rttabt [18:56] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [18:57] lbh pna unm [18:57] sb fuvmmyr [18:59] ym reeb ruoy gnilleps [19:00] abbo snvy [19:01] vaqrrq [19:01] kx-a74 (n=kx-a74@67.Red-79-150-224.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:01] Action: robinetd wonders what language this is. [19:02] fefyl [19:02] caesar [19:02] HAI GUYS [19:03] SpamCannon: Pizza? [19:03] caesar, aka rot13 [19:03] hiptobecubic: You did it wrong. [19:03] It's supposed to be HAI GUIZ [19:03] robinetd, HI, GUYS! [19:03] Still wrong. [19:04] HOWDY, SIRS! [19:04] Action: robinetd shakes his head, sticks a fork in his leg and decides he needs a shrink. [19:04] salute [19:04] http://i47.tinypic.com/30m27lt.jpg [19:05] hahahaha [19:06] nannes1 (n=nannes@host-78-14-193-155.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [19:06] art (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Nick change: art -> artv61 [19:08] this is strange. I can't k9copy Crank [19:08] it's a DVD9 and I've had success with other DVD9 disk that are 8GB+ but Crank makes k9copy segfault [19:10] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:10] Nick change: nannes1 -> nannes [19:11] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:13] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:16] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "reboot" [19:21] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:23] SpamCannon (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [19:25] hrmm, ff 3.5 constantly getting stuff from a google.com ip, anyone else notice? [19:26] aha, i know what it is....never mind [19:27] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:29] mancha: what DE do you use ? [19:29] or wm [19:30] deco, it depends, xfce sometimes, fvwm often, and cli mostly [19:30] mancha: ah cool [19:30] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:30] hi, is multilib support req for fglrx ? [19:30] you? [19:31] mancha: xfce and openbox [19:31] but mostly wm's [19:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:32] is multilib support req for fglrx, catalyst .. [19:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [19:34] gyroscope (n=master@81.215.22.20) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [19:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:35] deco cool. you see that less and less, most people can't live w/o gnome or kde these days [19:35] mancha: yeah :/ [19:35] mancha: i just need a couple of xterms,firefox,and a pdf viewer [19:35] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:36] that's the main feature of gui for me, the ability to have side-by-side consoles [19:36] helps a lot when coding [19:36] mancha: yeah it does [19:38] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:41] j0z (n=j0z@189.58.18.241.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:42] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-254-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[19:48] two times the bits, duh [19:48] twice the number of general purpose registers, and no 4GB limit when working with large datasets [19:48] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:49] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:49] thanks edman007 [19:49] the extra general purpose registers provide a big speed boost on x86_64 (and it is NOT the case with other archs, PPC64 for example does not have more registers than PPC, and thus PPC64 is slower than PPC) [19:49] biggest difference was allways the amount of memory it would address and the way it addressed it. unless your over 3bg windows or 4 linux there is no need for a 64bit os [19:50] how can i install all the kernal source packages once i've installed slackware 13? [19:50] lotec, well the extra registers is the only thing your everyday user will notice...and the extra ram that you can install without PAE [19:51] i have run 64 bit servers but for regular computing i have not seen a use myself, just me and my opinion [19:51] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:52] hi [19:52] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [19:52] lotec advantage; use more ram. [19:52] i have 4gb i really no no need for more, [19:53] lotec, the extra registers give you a 10-20% boost on most things, its amazing what a 10 fold reduction in latency on what amounts to less than 1k of memory can do [19:53] psychonautlib (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:53] i bought a 500g usb hd on black friday; put xfs on it (wow mkfs ran in 3s!!!) [19:53] it must need it. [19:53] thanks again [19:53] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:54] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:54] because on most systems it makes it slower since half your cache is pointers, and on 64-bit systems that effectively halves your cache without providing anything extra for 99% of those pointers [19:55] 64bit makes better candy too [19:55] Nick change: acidchil1 -> acidchild [19:55] i miss coding 6502s [19:56] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:56] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[20:20] well if they are subsidized if not then you are kinde mehed [20:20] toastytoast, they are subsidized until the end of the month [20:21] if you go back to college then they continue being subsidized until you graduate [20:21] yea, i know...i'm going to try and go back... [20:22] work pays $6300/yr for me to go back too [20:22] after i graduate from the community college i plan on going to a university for proggramming then maybe going for business [20:22] after you graduate college you can fake your own death and assume a new identiy to get out of paying the loan ;p [20:22] lol [20:22] lol [20:22] Pig_Pen, no need, flee the country [20:23] good luck trying to make me pay [20:23] then you don't need to hide [20:23] start a bank of greenhorn students ... youll never run out of money again, edman007 [20:23] move somewhere like Alice Springs or Coober Pedy Australia [20:23] become a monk. [20:23] new zealand is nicer i hear [20:24] antarctica has some nice spots .... quite dry too, i hear. [20:24] in Coober Pedy you can get one of those underground houses carved out of an abandoned opal mine [20:24] dry and cold as hell [20:24] Action: toastytoast moves to pluto d(^.^)b good luck making me pay now suckers [20:24] jg71, i don't know how that is suppose to work, everyone knows students are poor, a bank of them would be like a black hole of money [20:24] well, broke and cold, that wouldnt surprise me ;) [20:25] edman007, thats why you fail ;) [20:25] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] jg71, a lot of students don't end up making lots of money...too many decide that a major in sociology is really going to help them through life [20:27] lawd save them [20:27] i would suggest a trade school and learn something that is always in demand like welding or pipe fitting [20:27] med and tech are really the only ones that actually make you money, then there is business which is more of just a paper that gives you a mandatory raise everywhere... [20:27] Action: hitest got a major in psychology. back in 80....then had to go back to school to get a paying job. [20:27] rocket science. even slackware needs it. [20:28] Pig_Pen, i went to a trade school and then a college, the trade school was "Electronics" and college was electrical & computer eng [20:29] anyways most of the trades are pretty good, but anything that needs manual labor is bad for the long run, your body can't take it when you are old [20:29] even old bodies can hold a gun. [20:30] notice how strange that would sound if there were an additional c put in ... somewhere.... hm. [20:30] yeah, i know, a lifetime of manual labor has wrecked me [20:31] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [20:31] ok, enough sidetracking already ... have fun ;) [20:31] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] well of course [20:31] my computer dident boot. [20:31] try a sneaker [20:32] edman007: you in #defocus? [20:32] i replaced the CDRW w/ a DVD-Rom [20:32] always [20:32] and installed a new hard disk [20:32] and now it dosent work. [20:32] Panzer, and i leak into here [20:32] can you explain the lack of support for gnome to I-Hop in there please [20:33] Panzer, k, i need to read some of the backscroll [20:33] I-Hop (n=daniel@unaffiliated/i-hop) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Action: I-Hop pokes hcfd [20:33] here we go [20:33] antiwire, [20:33] i FAIL... [20:34] we know [20:34] hiya fire|bird [20:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:34] heya hitest, how are you? [20:34] edman007: there you go. [20:34] beatzz: step 1. confirm the bios detect the attached drives and is configured to try to boot from the dvd/cd drive before it tries the HDs [20:35] antiwire, i was just gana say, it shows no devices at all in BIOS > Boot [20:35] I am well, fire|bird, ty:) how are you/ [20:35] no optical, and no Harddrives [20:35] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:35] hitest: I'm great, thanks. :) [20:35] beatzz: are these sata or ATA? [20:35] beatzz: Then I suggest you check your cabling and jumper settings. [20:35] they are ata [20:35] yea jumpers and cables then [20:35] echo? [20:35] ok, so on one Red ribbin, i have dvd drive [20:35] thats it [20:36] it should be master yes? [20:36] beatzz: what is the jumper set to? [20:36] master [20:36] for shure [20:36] is the dvd drive on channel 0 or 1? [20:36] how would i know? [20:37] look at the motherboard [20:37] oohh gotcha, IDE channel [20:37] the IDE connectors will be labeled either 0/1 or primary/secondary [20:37] thanks edman007 [20:38] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:38] np [20:39] DVD-Rom is set to Secondary IDE channel [20:39] and it is set as master? [20:39] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-99-188-115-114.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] antiwire, yes [20:39] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-99-188-115-114.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:39] and on the primary channel cable, you have one hard drive set as Master and one set as Slave? [20:40] correct [20:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:40] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [20:40] Provided that all this really is the case and the devices are known to be good, the problem is most likely bios settings. [20:40] beatzz, set it to cable select, i have had problems when the jumper conflicts with the cable [20:40] set which to CS? [20:41] everything on IDE should be cable select, it causes less problems [20:41] Maybe for you edman007 [20:42] on the IDE cable, dose the Master/Slave need to be on a paticular spot on the ribbon? [20:42] I have seen plenty of disk/chipset/bios combinations that barf all over CS as well [20:42] beacause one terminal of the ribbon is at the end [20:42] antiwire, i have had at least one computer that refused to boot because the CD drive was set to master [20:42] and the other is in the middle of the ribbon? [20:42] err, refuse to boot from the CD [20:42] dose slave need to be on the lower terminal? [20:42] beatzz: In CS mode the slave will detect based on cable position [20:42] slave on the connector closest to the motherboard side [20:43] master on the end [20:43] it must be that way antiwire ? [20:43] for CS it will be that way [20:43] but master/slave dosent matter? [20:44] Normally, position does not matter if you set the jumpers master/slave but for CS it matters...hence "CS=Cable select" [20:44] neat how that works huh? [20:44] ok its confirmed, the SEC IDE has 1 device, the dvd-rom and its set to master. [20:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [20:44] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [20:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:47] beatzz: What edman007 was getting at is a common problem though. Try this is CS mode does not work: Channel1=a hard disk set to master on the end connector. Channel2= a hard disk set to master on the end connector and an optical drive set to slave on the connector closest to the motherboard side. [20:47] Also, consider resetting the BIOS/CMOS at this point [20:47] and confirmed that PRI IDE has 2 devices, both IDE ATA HD's [20:47] one master, one slave [20:48] Try to reconfigure like I suggested [20:48] i actualy did earler, i pulled the battery out [20:48] it solved nothing [20:48] I was able to put the slack-dvd into the drive, and eject it as well [20:48] That doesn't tell us anything other than the drive has power. [20:49] mmk. [20:49] well the IDE channels are installed properly. [20:49] i can enter the bios [20:49] it beeps twice till i set the date/time, then after that it tryed to boot [20:49] off some of PXE-something [20:50] then it go's to Boot Failure: Haulting system [20:50] again... [20:50] try to reconfigure using CS or the configuration I suggested. [20:50] but in the boot options, it shows no devices at all. under the boot prioritys [20:50] try both configurations [20:50] ok [20:51] now, with that configuration [20:51] which one? [20:51] the CS u sujested [20:51] everything set to CS? [20:51] remember that one of my ide ribbons is 40/40 [20:51] and the other is 80/40 [20:51] whatever [20:52] ok, dosent matter [20:52] i will try that next time i get to a monitor/keyboard [20:52] well this is very anticlimactic [20:52] I don't like that [20:52] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] Remember how I asked you what the model number for that motherboard was? [20:54] Based upon the content of your crappy study guide, can you guess why knowing the model number would be useful? [20:54] umm.. [20:54] Find the fscking manual for that board and read it [20:54] because, it would let us know if the IDE stuff is compatable? [20:55] it will show you how to set the bios to autodetect all of the devices as long as they are correctly connected [20:55] roger, im there www.macomp.com [20:55] I don't need the manual, you do [20:55] been looking for something about bios since ive been chatin w/ u [20:55] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [20:55] just showin u im not slackin off here. [20:56] dont want u thinkin im not doing my own research [20:56] what did the actual model number end up looking like? [20:56] im not shure if thats the model number or not [20:57] its the biggest set of numbers printed on the board [20:57] ! [20:57] i think i found it [20:57] D845PT [20:58] That is it [20:58] It says "Intel Desktop Board D854PT" [20:59] http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845pt/ [20:59] and... http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845pt/a7585201.pdf [20:59] v4nelle: did you solve your "problem" re #sbopkg? [21:00] damn ur good antiwire [21:00] i mean, I could have found that [21:00] but u [21:00] beatzz: in the second link, the PDF you want to look at 67 [21:00] its like u allready had the link, just waiting for me to find the model number on my own [21:00] table 67 [21:00] BP{k}, mpaaaaaa [21:00] set it to autodetect for all of the devices [21:01] v4nelle: I beg your pardon? That answer doesn't parse. [21:01] nope i mean [21:01] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [21:02] v4nelle: and what is exactly the problem? [21:02] beatzz: "Auto" should be the default setting. If the BIOS is already set for Auto you should try what edman007 and I said, first set everything to CS, if that does not work then do this : Channel1=a hard disk set to master on the end connector. Channel2= a hard disk set to master on the end connector and an optical drive set to slave on the connector closest to the motherboard side. [21:02] sbopkg cant download the source ackage,on ntpclient for example.... [21:02] with wget i can [21:03] mmk, yea i wsa gana say i saw all the things set to auto [21:03] so first, ALL CS [21:03] in their current positions [21:03] beatzz: yes [21:03] ok, and if that gives me nothing, what u wrote above. [21:03] gotcha [21:03] yes [21:04] i will write this down, and try it tomorrow [21:04] Then, If after all of that you still get nothing in the bios, you might have bad cables or bad devices. [21:04] v4nelle: can you give me the output of "sbopkg -b ntpclient"? [21:04] and with give me the output . I mean "pastebin it and give me the url" [21:04] BP{k}, now i hanevt access on that machine...sorry.....i will do it tomorrow [21:07] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:07] v4nelle: see, I think it's rather strange since as far as I know sbopkg *uses* wget [21:07] gn all [21:08] thanks for the continuing support antiwire [21:08] no problem [21:08] but [21:08] o_O [21:08] with support comes a certain amount of chastising [21:08] do i have to touch your kernel [21:08] as long as we all understand that, it's all good [21:08] O_O [21:08] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.98.165) joined ##slackware. [21:08] beatzz: just me ;-) [21:08] Action: beatzz quivers [21:09] indeed [21:09] well gn all [21:09] night beatzz [21:09] i will report back tomorrow, hopefully with a new slackware server in hand [21:09] :D [21:09] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "peace all" [21:09] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [21:14] julioc|zzz (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) left irc: "." [21:15] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:19] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:23] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. 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[21:42] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [21:43] emma: also, you might want to use cfdisk instead of fdisk [21:43] you can use cfdisk, which is a little less intimidating. [21:43] both guide you through the process fairly well though - help is available at each step [21:44] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:44] first time i installed linux (not knowing that i could use the distros installer to partition the disk) i used parted magic [21:45] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:45] im still waiting for the dude in here stating he was too scared partitioning the drive himself to he shipped it back to the vendor for it. [21:45] *so [21:46] do you guys suppose that in virtualbox it is still /dev/hda ? [21:46] emma, think. please :) [21:47] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:48] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [21:50] jakemills (n=jakemill@89.243.12.38) left irc: "Leaving" [21:55] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [21:59] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [22:04] murder (n=mdr@nat/ibm.br/x-erhbtiwsitvslvtj) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] is the type "linux" is that going to be ext4 ? [22:05] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [22:05] emma: start reading and start asking [22:05] or do you have to do something like mkfs.ext4 /dev/hda2 or some such thing? [22:05] stop asking* [22:05] emma: read the slackbook [22:06] okay [22:06] soap (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) joined ##slackware. [22:07] -_- [22:07] deco: Slackbook? The wiki? [22:07] if there's a book I really am blind [22:08] jeez [22:08] http://www.slackbook.org/ [22:09] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:10] bbiab [22:10] hitest: I stand shamed [22:11] ! [22:11] Nick change: naex -> Picard [22:12] Nick change: Picard -> Naex [22:13] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [22:14] emma: you could also google "How to install Slackware". [22:15] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-115-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:15] anyone know how can i install the codecs for the most used formats of video live avi and rmvb? [22:18] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-144-138.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:27] or sbopkg [22:27] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] hitest: Someone said that about another book, I didn't like it, started with a B... [22:28] this one is a good book:) [22:29] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:30] slackbasics.org [22:32] thumbs, i downloaded the slackbuild for this item http://www.slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/mplayer-codecs/ [22:32] but when i run ./nameoffile ir gives me a error [22:32] and the error is???? [22:32] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Client Quit [22:32] tar: /home/thiago/Downloads/mplayer-codecs/all-20071007.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory [22:32] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [22:32] BP{k}: The error was "error", stop thinking like a linux user [22:32] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [22:32] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:33] thedoor: ^^^ read that howto. ;) [22:33] thedoor: bunzip2 MAY come in handy [22:33] Naex: negative. [22:33] BP{k}: that's how I did it, then again not during a slackbuild [22:34] well having it does come in handy, but it's not what causes the error. [22:34] I think the issue is that thedoor did not download the source package, but he will figure that out when he reads the howto [22:34] aye [22:34] mfillpot: exactly :) [22:35] i need to download the source+the slackbuild? [22:35] yes [22:35] and the slackbuild do what the system need to do with the source? [22:35] ooooh [22:35] now im understanding the slackbuild :P :) [22:35] thedoor: read the howto that BP{k} recommended and you will get all of the answers that you need [22:38] of course if your on arch and use the aur the buildfile will download the src >:P [22:39] if you're on arch you get pacman [22:39] snL20: and if your on debian you can can do aptget and if you are on some rpm based system you can do yum .. so your point was? :) [22:39] Naex: not for everything.... that's why we have the aur... you still install the package with pacman though [22:40] BP{k}: nothing just saying =) [22:40] snL20: Ahh I see. That may explain why I never got arch to work. [22:41] it is best to team someone the basic before referring tools, this provides some base understanding that will allow them to resolve issues should the tools fail. [22:42] Naex: as with anything useful you need to rtfm =) [22:42] Naex: the arch wiki is well-written, it is all there. [22:42] i downloaded the 64bits version of the source [22:42] but when i xecute the slackbuild [22:42] snL20: I was reading it, I'm just not good enough with linux yet. I don't even have my grfx driver on this box yet [22:42] it try to descompact the 32bits tar.gz filename [22:43] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:43] thedoor: did you read the howto from BP{k} ? [22:43] yep. [22:43] thedoor: http://www.slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [22:43] Naex: ok... that's cool... I started on slackware, its nice :) [22:43] thedoor: you may also want to read ... yeah that what fire|bird just posted .. and the whole faq. ;) [22:43] draw them pictures, and they eat the pages. [22:44] ohh [22:44] i need to change the script [22:44] let me try :P [22:44] uh.. no you don't. [22:44] you just need to make the script executable, chmod +x nameofscript [22:46] you got a dart in your neck man [22:46] lol [22:47] hitest: That's kind of funny, I was just explaining to my roommate how to write a script... [22:47] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) left irc: Client Quit [22:48] if its a bash script you can also do sh ./script [22:49] wow! [22:49] finally i got it :D [22:49] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:49] im new at slackware :P [22:50] please have patience with me :P [22:50] thedoor: good to hear [22:50] thedoor: These guys are pro at patience, they got me up and running [22:50] patience? isn't that a card game? ;) [22:50] :) [22:50] also the name of a character in Abnett's books [22:51] yes, to use slackware you have to be good at cards [22:51] :D [22:51] i installed this http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/mplayer-codecs/ but i still can't run rmvb files i installed the correct codecs? :( [22:51] the most important thing is that you read the documentation before jumping into a project [22:52] thedoor: maybe you need the win32 codecs ? [22:52] Snewp, can i find it at slackbuild repositories? [22:52] thedoor: oh right... hmmm [22:52] Snewp, * [22:53] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] thedoor: install mplayer after the codecs [22:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] rmvb files are kind of obscure, you might save a lot of time by finding a converter (this is a stepgap, not a solution) [22:53] iv never heard of rmvb [22:54] the wikipedia entry for rmvb states that you can play these files by utilizing codecs that are in the ffmpeg package. [22:54] thedoor: iirc if mplayer is compiled from source it wont support win32 codecs unless they're installed [22:54] my mplayer come with the slack instalation [22:55] thedoor: and not the win32 codecs ? [22:56] i make the full instalation of the DVD [22:56] I don't think the win32 codecs come on the dvd [22:56] thedoor: you will need to install the ffmpeg package to obtain the needed codec for that filetype. [22:56] thedoor: it might not have been compiled with support for them [22:57] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] jgor (i=jgor@rrcs-67-78-117-190.sw.biz.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:58] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware. [22:58] thedoor: yeah, get the ffmpeg package if its not installed [22:59] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] jgor (i=jgor@rrcs-67-78-117-190.sw.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] thedoor: what does mplayer -vc help|grep realvid [23:01] show ? [23:02] aaaa \o/ [23:02] i did it! [23:02] \o/ [23:02] i ownloaded the codecs from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html [23:02] and put it on /usr/lib/codecs/ :) [23:02] and it works fine :D [23:02] thedoor: well done [23:02] thedoor: ;-) [23:03] thedoor: ;) [23:03] tks 4 all :) [23:04] i come from ubuntu and im trying to use slackware :P [23:04] it make me confused sometimes [23:05] thedoor: I did the same thing, ubuntu 9.10 made me cry [23:05] Naex: buggy? [23:05] thedoor: there is not synaptic genie for Slackware [23:05] thedoor: slackware will start out confusing, but the simple logic will make it much more understandable in time. [23:05] s/not/no/ [23:05] Rat409: Buggy, slow, crashes, poor support, locked down a lot of gnome [23:05] i like ubuntu, its a great initiative to atract some normal users, but the slackware give me more freedom :) [23:06] Naex: so i've read,and you confimed it [23:06] Action: BP{k} hates normal people. [23:06] liar [23:06] they sound so .. beige and vanilla. ;) [23:06] Action: thumbs doesn't like Erik's [23:06] you are normal.. [23:06] BP{k}, just don't buy a gun :P [23:07] Action: init[0] infact BP{k} is not one among them :P [23:07] lol [23:07] Rat409: Also, if God help you if you try to change anything manually [23:07] init[0], \o/ hi :) [23:08] welcome back to ##slackware [23:08] Rat409: /bin is locked down [23:08] Action: mfillpot finds ubuntu too buggy and assisted [23:08] Hey, a have a pretty legitimate question this time... [23:09] I have this netbook with some atheros wireless chip or something.. Think it's like, atheros 9285 or somethin [23:09] Action: Naex find mfillpot's finding very acurate [23:09] Naex: probly useful newbie-proofing. [23:09] Anyhow, current wireless shizz in the kernel gives me really limited wireless signal strenth and well, that's not right. [23:09] Rat409: Yeah, it's not really linux anymore, it's pretty much an alternative OS [23:10] noobs gtfo! .... jk :) [23:10] matsuura: what chipset, card and module are you running? [23:10] matsuura: try lspci or lsusb |grep -i network [23:11] I just said it was an atheros 9285 and it can only use the ath9k module [23:11] :( [23:11] how can i see what slackware is turn on with my system? [23:12] ps [23:12] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [23:12] matsuura: ty, I missed that [23:12] im goting just 9mb of my 1gb ram free :( [23:12] thedoor: you mean the version, then /etc/slackware-version [23:12] thedoor: look in /etc/rc.d [23:12] thedoor: you mean version? [23:12] no [23:12] BP{k}: ping [23:12] init[0]: pong. [23:12] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] i need to see what is getting up with the system [23:13] thedoor: top [23:13] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] thedoor: top [23:13] thedoor: ps(1), top(1) [23:13] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [23:13] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [23:13] thedoor: linux will eat all your ram! [23:14] :( [23:14] and oh kde4 precaches a lot. yuh ps aux and top/htop [23:14] mfillpot: np [23:14] init[1]: what did you want? [23:15] thedoor: What's taking up all your ram? [23:15] matsuura: I don't know how to answer about your device, I'm still using ath5k [23:15] oh... o_o [23:15] for the same chip? [23:15] NaCl, firefox and X is the top Ram eaters [23:15] thedoor: whats free -m show [23:16] thedoor: what wm are you using ? [23:16] matsuura: I'm on an old dlink card that I bought in 2000 [23:16] total used free shared buffers cached [23:16] Mem: 995 986 9 0 37 419 [23:16] -/+ buffers/cache: 529 465 [23:16] Channel flood from thedoor -- kicking [23:16] Swap: 988 65 923 [23:16] thedoor kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:16] thumbs: pastebin [23:16] ;p; [23:16] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-115-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:16] lol :P [23:16] thumbs: pastebin [23:16] thedoor: www.pastebin.ca [23:16] im using KDE [23:16] i think i will try XFCE to use less ram :( [23:17] i installed the gnomeslackbuild but it not runs fine :( [23:17] xfce uses nearly no ram [23:17] thedoor: a lot is cached [23:17] but KDE shouldn't use that much [23:17] you have a high amount cached [23:17] yeah, snL20 beat me to it [23:17] BP{k}: its ok now ,songbird [23:18] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:18] thedoor: most of your ram is being eaten by the kernel, but what I have seen the 64-bit kernel uses alot more ran than the 32-bit one does. You can try changing your swappiness to reallocate memory but it will slow your system. [23:18] heya,folks [23:18] yo MLanden [23:18] heya MLanden, how are you? [23:18] hum.. [23:18] thedoor: I'm using fluxbox and have 2GB ram and have 56mb free =) [23:18] OO [23:18] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] heya,mfillpot..fire|bird..just relaxin' for the evenin' thanks [23:19] Snewp, what u run in there? nuclear physic simulator? :P [23:19] xfce takes about 170 for me [23:19] snL20, * [23:19] thedoor: linux will speed things up by using most of your ram [23:19] hum.. [23:19] snL20: good point [23:19] i think i understand [23:19] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:20] he cache something in ram, so when i open the things they will open fast? [23:20] thedoor: If you have unused ram, it may as well be used for something, ram is thousands of time faster then disk [23:20] hum.. [23:20] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Client Quit [23:20] thedoor: So if you commonly use xchat, and you have 500mb free, it'll load it into memory for faster use (not exactly true, but conceptually easier) [23:21] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:21] hum... [23:21] thedoor: if the ram is filled then your system will automatically push less used memory files to your swap partition which will help to guarantee the performance speed of your system. [23:21] thedoor: i would suggest to keep your ass of KDE :P [23:21] hehuehue [23:21] i tried to use the fluxbox =/ [23:21] but he is so ugly :( [23:21] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Client Quit [23:22] thedoor: well, you can theme it [23:22] thedoor: xfce is good one for you , fluxbox is customizalbe [23:22] theres themes called styles, go to box-look.org [23:22] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:22] or tenr.de [23:22] i will see it tomorrow :P [23:22] openbox with lxde or tint2 is a nice option as well [23:23] now im going to sleep [23:23] there are 02:22 am here in brazil :P [23:23] but it is saturday, it's only 11:23PM here and I will be on for a while [23:24] mfillpot: How'd that install of mocp go? [23:24] thedoor: its 05:24 here [23:24] MLanden: the program kept erroring out, I haven't gotten a chance to diagnose it yet [23:24] >:] [23:25] snL20, zoombie :P [23:25] thedoor: i use dbus --launch kded4 & in my ~/.xinitrc to set global configs for use in my wm's. you could also set globals thru xfce4 using xfconfig4-query & iirc or set them in .xinitrc or a wm's configs. [23:25] shredder12 (n=shredder@proxy.iiit.ac.in) joined ##slackware. [23:26] its linux many ways to do anything :) [23:27] Rachael, i will try it :D [23:27] Mibaezjr2k (n=Mibaezjr@adsl-85-32-213.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:27] well guys [23:27] im going :) [23:27] see u tomorrow :) [23:27] thedoor: peace [23:27] night [23:27] take care,thedoor [23:27] sorry my bad english :P [23:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:30] I did it I did it I did it! [23:31] I installed slackware myself :D [23:31] Congrats! [23:31] You've taken one step down the road to damnation [23:31] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-115-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:31] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:31] hehehe [23:31] Action: MLanden gives emma a cookie!!!...j/k hope you enjoy your new install [23:31] After you load up your first X environment satan himself will be there to shake your hand [23:31] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@190.191.51.54) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [23:33] Naex: with a 20 guitar salute???...:P [23:33] emma: awesome, congrats:) [23:33] MLanden: He will personally be playing bass [23:34] Naex: awesome....old school Dio....:D [23:34] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210c2.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [23:34] if satan has the bass then I will take the beats [23:34] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:35] I can't play instruments, but I can manage things really well [23:35] gahh how do you spell that command, lspci [23:35] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [23:35] lspsi [23:35] can anyone tell me why on the the cites where i d/l slack 13 there are plain .iso's for d1-d3, but i dont see one for the dvd? [23:36] AEnima1577: I'd go with a torrent, it's far faster [23:36] why not get the DVD torrent at slackware.com [23:36] AEnima1577: please point us to the site your are attempting to download from. [23:36] thanks Naex, as you said that i read that in the read me [23:37] can you only run lspci from root? [23:37] zhoun (n=guo@123.116.105.163) joined ##slackware. [23:37] no [23:37] why is it not running for me [23:37] mfillpot, i was on http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/, but had check a number of places from the "Get Slack" link [23:37] Naex: if you don't run it as rood, you need to supply the fullpath. [23:38] BP{k}: Thanks mate [23:38] AEnima1577: a lot of mirrors might decide not to store the dvd iso or any iso at all, due to bandwidth limitations. [23:39] AEnima1577: this site is weird, it has all of the dependant files from the DVD iso, but not the iso itself [23:39] AEnima1577: what country are you in? [23:39] lovely USA, eastern mountains [23:40] BP{k}: why does find / "lspci" give me 400 000 results? [23:40] YDIW. [23:40] :) [23:40] Naex: did you count them? ;) [23:41] "which lspci" should be better. [23:41] AEnima1577: you can use http://www.slackware.com/getslack/ to find a mirror, I highly recommend the TDS.net mirror. [23:41] BP{k}: of course I did, I wouldn't arbitrarily give you a number [23:41] rworkman: although that won't work if he's a non-root user ;) [23:41] Naex: I think what you're wanting is: find / -name "lspci" [23:42] rworkman: That's what I ran to find it, but thanks [23:42] BP{k}: sure it will, it just won't give the expected output. Unless, of course, he has PATH set in a sane fashion. :) [23:42] rworkman: bah. but you're quite right. [23:42] Naex: if you just do "find /" (which is essentially what you did), then you get everything in / :) [23:43] AEnima1577: I am in VA and I have been getting 2.5MB downloads on the tds.net server [23:43] BP{k}: now *that* is the expected output ;-) [23:43] Action: rworkman <-- arrogant ass tonight. I blame the non-cooperating portmidi. [23:44] rworkman: "tonight"?? ;) [23:44] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:44] Hey guys I'm trying to find my video driver in slackpkg using "slackpkg search filename" but I can't narrow it down, is there a good term to search for? (ati radeon HD 2400" [23:44] BP{k}: haha :D [23:44] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Naex: it's part of the xf86-video-radeonhd package [23:45] rworkman: danke mate [23:45] Naex: in Slackware 13.0, it should be autodetected; you don't need to do anything special. [23:46] rworkman: It was autodetected, but it seems like it's not working properly [23:46] rworkman: video is rather choppy, scrolling through the internet is a bit weird [23:46] how so? [23:46] hrm [23:46] then again, I'm used to my PC desktop, maybe this is what my card really looks like [23:46] it's not that powerful [23:47] radeonhd is proly your driver [23:47] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] I've seen some issues with radeonhd not being used though - bug in X causing radeon to be used instead. [23:48] glxinfo | grep DRI [23:48] got nothin', need root? [23:48] no. There's the culprit. [23:48] they're up to 1.3.0 too, how olds your driver? [23:48] well, part of it anyway [23:49] dee-are-aye right? [23:49] Naex: are you in the "video" group? [23:49] yeah [23:49] ls -l /dev/dri/ [23:50] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:50] I don't have a folder dri [23:50] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] directory, sorry [23:50] down windows down [23:51] Hrm... is this the same installation we were working with a couple of nights ago? [23:51] yes [23:51] Consider reinstalling all of the x/ series. [23:51] whgat does this show, as rewt: grep -i LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log [23:52] forget the -i, blame it on the spirits [23:52] http://pastebin.ca/1692007 [23:53] hmmm dri pops up there [23:53] ok as brother rwork suggested it's using radeon, not radeonhd. i donuts know your card though, is this proper? [23:54] I'm not sure, I was looking into the packages to find it [23:54] also, this is probably unrelated but useful as well i think xaa acceleration is better than exa [23:54] lemme research real quick [23:54] (I don't know what those are) [23:55] faceplant (n=fenston@c-76-103-146-118.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:55] i was referring to "(II) LoadModule: "exa"" [23:56] I'm not sure if it should use normal radeon or not, mancha [23:56] what chipset is radeon hd 2400? lspci | grep Radeon [23:57] iirc radeonhd is for r{5,6,7}xx [23:57] http://pastebin.ca/1692010 [23:57] with the r{6,7}xx being WIP [23:58] Eeasiest solution is to exit X, login as root on a console, do "X -configure", open /root/xorg.conf in an editor and change the "radeon" line (the one that specifies the driver) to "radeonhd", then move /root/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [23:58] That's what I had to do on my R300 card. [23:59] that sounds like a good way. [23:59] worth a shot [00:00] --- Sun Nov 29 2009