[00:00] i downloaded a cpuload plugin but i dont know how i can install it [00:00] "- If you're installing a binary and it's not installed using the system packaging mechanism, then you are doing something wrong." [00:00] I profoundly disagree with this. [00:00] http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins [00:01] this page dont explain nothing about install [00:01] pi31415, imo, a "user" in the box, can write/download/run scripts, then hack the nuts off the box until the admin get's time to read the logs, or go over there, or get's a mail, or blackberry alert (whatever depends on their notify system they use), but that's where local exploits lead to mitigation. if no users can log in, only root at the server, it's a lot more secure that way in/of itself. there's nothing secure, imo, [00:01] about a users /home. [00:01] 1. One of the goals of many Linux developers is an easy ./configure;make;make install process. RMS has discussed it before. [00:01] linux's /home is a touchy subject with me for sure. [00:01] 2. There will always be something useful that is not packaged yet. [00:02] i know [00:02] i always make packages [00:02] Old_Fogie: What about the admin? Can they have a non root account? [00:03] pi31415, yeah that sounds fine to me. but again, I still do not like /home in linux. [00:03] Eh? [00:03] what's wrong with /home? [00:04] i don't see a problem with su, sudo or /home if you configure it properly [00:05] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-6-2-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:05] grep ^%wheel /etc/sudoers [00:05] %wheelALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD:ALL [00:06] liberty $ sudo su [00:06] bash-3.1# [00:06] :) [00:06] sudo su rather than sudo /bin/sh? [00:06] but what's wrong with that? [00:06] If I leave myself logged in and the box unattended, then tough shit for me. [00:06] pi31415: sudo -i is actually the easiest. :) [00:06] (but harder to show in a short paste) [00:07] but this requires sudo to be configure [00:07] d [00:07] i don't see the problem [00:07] Correct. [00:07] I'm not arguing :) [00:07] ah ok [00:08] I may have black and white opinions, but real life demands compromises. [00:08] My point was this: I find that behavior VERY useful, and if configured properly and USED properly, it's fine. [00:08] That's a good word for it too: compromises [00:08] pi31415, yea, you have to compromise for functionality. [00:09] since the user needs to either be a member of wheel or someone had to leave root logged in, and if Mr. Root added the wronger to wheel or left his account active well...Mr. Root...you shall be pwned [00:09] If you compromise, then you are more likely to be compromised. [00:09] wronger/wrong user* (don't ask how) [00:09] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [00:10] this is why i require people to stand in front of a wall mounted shotgun and swipe a finger. wrong finger? BANG [00:10] I remember a slight surprise when X stopped listening by default. I had firewalled it for years and here I could have just configured it to stop listening. doh. [00:11] Old_Fogie: but for your remote access problems, PKI is the only way [00:11] i just carry a USB stick with my cert [00:11] Action: rworkman is doing a wipe+reinstall for a client -- winxp :/ [00:12] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [00:12] ugh. that requires a beer. i just did two of those last week [00:12] I actually feel more secure with the cert on the end user's hard drive. I don't trust them to keep track of USB sticks. [00:12] This box has 256M of ram. It came with XP preinstalled and ONLY 256M of ram. WTF? [00:12] nullboy: agreed. Already had a Negro Modelo [00:12] I also carefully monitor VPN logs. [00:13] 256MB on a fully updated XP box is not fun at all [00:13] rworkman: XP ran decent in 256mb until SP2 [00:13] haha^^ [00:13] ! [00:13] it's doable but not fun [00:13] I put XP Home SP1 on it, and it was already swapping badly. [00:14] strange [00:14] It now has SP3 on it, and other updates are slowly going in. [00:14] ag3ntugly (n=x@24.32.9.104) joined ##slackware. [00:14] They'll be billed for another stick of ram before it goes back to them. [00:14] ultimately they will love you for that though [00:15] I have an XP pro box here with 256 rworkman , I recommend 'avast' for antivirus fwiw, very low load on system [00:15] Yeah, but really it's not even that -- they'll not be happy with my work otherwise. [00:15] Old_Fogie: yeah, it is. I install avg on all of my clients though [00:15] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:15] same here, AVG and anti malwarebytes..just in case [00:15] yup [00:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:16] Old_Fogie: I also liked the free avast for that reason, but home users are amazingly dumb and cannot figure out how to re-register it every 6 months, so their antivirus stops working and they get owned. [00:16] rworkman, I cant run the avg anymore on the 256 box, it really just bogs me down on it. just 'throwing it out there' to ya [00:16] Nick change: dhabyxc -> dhabyx [00:17] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Success [00:17] i have a system like that too, but the 256MB issue is complicated by the fact that it is RDRAM on one of those old school non-HT P4s [00:17] pi31415, I'm probably going to buy it. I think they did a nice job here. they apparently are using linux/gpl (whatever) code in it, their own kernel if you will. [00:17] which basically means no upgrades evar [00:17] If I have to rebuild their PC every year, they may as well just do automatic updates and windows defender [00:17] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] pi31415, I cant say if it actually *finds* anything, but the upgrade process is easy, it's easy enuff to use, and doesnt mess witht he box like norton or others. [00:18] for a while t seemed that mcaffee was intentionally failing to uninstall [00:18] pi31415, it ruined all 10 of my netboox that mcafee [00:19] the last time I set up someone's new box, the mcaffee uninstaller seemed a little misleading, and you had to be careful to not cancel the uninstall [00:19] What I don't understand is why malware authors are so fscking stupid about their software. If you're making money on whatever the shitware is doing, then you should really try to make it be non-intrusive. [00:19] pi31415, if i restore them from image, the mcafee kills my acers. I had to restore, fix, then remove it, then image it. I think I sanitized them ok, we shall see. [00:19] misleading software may as well be called malware [00:19] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Client Quit [00:19] If this lady's computer hadn't gone utterly worthless, it would still be doing whatever it was doing. [00:19] nullboy: you just use the anti malwarebytes trial version? [00:19] chopp: yeah [00:19] unless they want to pay for it [00:20] i always explain the free version vs the pay for versions [00:20] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:20] I never used that before 'anti malwarebytes', its' good huh [00:20] it's good for getting malware out [00:20] works great [00:20] Yeah, I always recommend that my clients purchase AVG. Not sure if they still offer it, but they used to offer two years for aroudn $35, while the "big names" were $50+ for one year [00:20] nullboy: allright. I allways install avg myself on client machines, but the anti malwarebytes is new to me. [00:21] chopp: it complements AVG [00:21] cool [00:21] since avg does decent anti virus work and malwarebytes does great malware removal [00:21] If Windows had a decent command line interface, I'd script the avg and spyboy s&d and spywareblaster et al updates and never worry again. [00:22] rworkman, the big names are really just that, names only. I really cant trust norton or mcaffee myself. they just cripple a box, they just ruin it. they wont uninstall, they conflict wiht things. i'm so glad to be away from norton n mcaffee, really [00:22] Agreed [00:22] Sophos may very well be worse. [00:22] just compromise the system with metasploit's meterpreter and you get a great CLI interface hahahah [00:22] oh man that was bad [00:23] Hypothetically speaking, figuring out how to get Sophos off of a machine in a locked down AD environment is lots of fun. :D [00:23] I thank my lucky stars every day for gnu/lin and nomachine nx. So glad to not have to run win updates, av/malware/spyware scans no more. [00:25] Here's an interesting thing, and I cant figure out how linux does this. But you can run a full KDE 3.5 off a p2-400 and it be snappy thru the nomachine/ssh . But if you sat infront of it, it feels way slower. I dont get it. But that's how it feels. [00:26] I wonder what it is in the X code that allows it to run faster over the wire, then faster to the monitor? [00:26] vodoo [00:26] lol [00:27] even vnc to a slow box, feels faster than if you sat right in front of it and used it. [00:28] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "Rebooting. Again." [00:30] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] That just doesn't sound right. [00:30] Maybe your video card is poorly supported. [00:31] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:31] that's definitely a factor. many (not all) pc's of that era, only had maybe agp 1x slots, but more times then not, they were just pci, and not many pci cards I find get dri, well they do, but they'd be expensive (50bux) for a box that aint worth that much :) [00:31] For a while on one box I forgot to configure X and it was just using the vesa driver. [00:32] one box I run nomachine on, the host has a trident card. can barely even handle vesa [00:32] over 800x600 [00:32] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:32] good night [00:32] but, I can NX it at 1280x1024 and runs faster hen native. 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[00:41] 'newgrp - $GROUP' works but only for that instance [00:41] damn it i'm going to have to log out [00:41] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:41] nick (n=nick@c-67-171-50-31.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [00:42] Nick change: nick -> Guest80312 [00:42] Nick change: Guest80312 -> scwerllguy [00:43] nullboy, that was fast... [00:43] Action: edman007 can't log in that fast... [00:43] they don't call me minute man for nothing, baby [00:43] heh [00:47] scwerllguy (n=nick@c-67-171-50-31.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [00:54] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Success [00:55] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] diabolix (i=43a3ece3@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e00695c0bfed5905) joined ##slackware. [00:56] whoever suggested freesshd for vnc+sshd tunneling on windows, it works! [00:57] nullboy, if you got ssh working, you tunnel rdp too fwiw [00:57] i used freesshd and tightvnc on the windows box and openssh + krdc on my slackware laptop [00:57] yeah [00:57] alright, not delete everything in C:\, lots of bad stuff in there [00:57] but can i make windows RDP only listen on 127.0.0.1? [00:58] hmm, you know what i bet i could [00:58] yup [00:58] nullboy, sounds too secure [00:58] I got a link for a howto , gimme about 3 minutes [00:58] edman007: lol [00:58] Old_Fogie: i just don't remember the registry location [00:59] nullboy, its under NTDLR or something...just remove those entries [00:59] Old_Fogie: actually i'm going to kill RDP since other users can't watch me with RDP on XP pro [01:00] i applied to a job at broadcom...i feel dirty [01:00] http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-sshd.html <--all you ever wanted to know [01:00] I got another one here somewhere [01:01] edman007: wow! they are hiring? [01:01] edman007: what type of position? EE or IT? [01:01] EE [01:01] you're. a. bastard. [01:02] lol [01:02] scwerllguy (n=nick@c-67-171-50-31.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] scwerllguy (n=nick@c-67-171-50-31.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:02] they won't do anything though, i got "Linux" on my resume, that is like asking for a k-line over ther [01:02] e [01:02] lmao [01:03] "opensource?!?! WTF" [01:03] haha [01:03] the_gato (n=gato@cpe-67-249-229-144.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:03] whenever someone mentions linux + broadcom the first thing that comes to mind is the wrt54g [01:03] and their damn proprietary drivers [01:04] lf4 (n=KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [01:04] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:04] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) joined ##slackware. [01:04] heheh [01:04] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] lf4 (n=KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Client Quit [01:04] would be nice to work with the engineers over there, maybe convince them to make it linux friendly [01:05] RaeGrepus (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] you better bring and act of God along with your lunch box [01:05] and/an [01:05] _ohm (n=nava@152.14.218.151) joined ##slackware. [01:05] hahaha [01:05] Amsoz (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:05] I wouldn't feel safe there. [01:06] lol [01:06] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:06] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:06] But then, I'd probably wear an OpenBSD shirt to the interview. [01:06] ...and no shoes :) [01:06] and long hair.. [01:06] right on! [01:07] haha [01:07] rworkman, rofl [01:07] lf4 (n=KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [01:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:07] No shoes and long hair imply no bathing within a week prior. That screams gNewSense. [01:08] yeah, but you have your "ideals" so you're better than they are. [01:09] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) joined ##slackware. [01:09] Well, I can respect principles. I can't respect hypocrisy. [01:09] Therein lies most of my problem with RMS. [01:10] Action: edman007 goes to the interview wearing an RMS shirt [01:10] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) left irc: Client Quit [01:10] Is it clean? [01:10] diabolix (i=43a3ece3@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e00695c0bfed5905) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [01:10] i got to find one, i figured i would look through some trash [01:10] haha [01:10] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:15] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:18] broadcom called their BRCM embedded networking drivers "NAS"...do you realize how freaking confusing that is for IT people to talk about? [01:19] amusing [01:20] the binary itself was named nas so when someone would start talking about nas, you immediately think storage... [01:20] thegato (n=gato@cpe-69-202-137-82.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:26] _ohm (n=nava@152.14.218.151) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:29] How do people set up their rsync servers? [01:29] i want to keep my webhost in sync in my computer [01:30] Do I set up a cronscript on LOCAL and rsync local remote [01:30] and on REMOTE, rsync remote local? [01:30] Or...whenever I do an rsync command [01:30] I'll run them both at once? [01:31] Or....do people prefer Unison? [01:32] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432815.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:34] redtricycle: does your webhost support ssh? [01:34] yes [01:35] you can just use rsync in ssh mode with cron [01:35] much more simple [01:36] giuppy (n=giuppy@host156-162-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [01:36] giuppy (n=giuppy@host156-162-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:37] Nick change: RaeGrepus -> superGear [01:37] redtricycle: you can use this as a starting point but check out what it does with the man page: rsync -viahl -e ssh --progress --delete --port=22 / username@server:/BACKUP/RSYNC_BKP_ZONE/ [01:38] if you use ssh certs the scripting of it is easy [01:39] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:39] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [01:40] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.200) joined ##slackware. [01:40] I suppose I'll do that...since rsync only sends updated changes [01:40] redtricycle: for plain files it's perfect, for large binary files...not so cool ;) [01:41] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.116.194) joined ##slackware. [01:41] afternoon all [01:41] blah! I dont have the desire to mod my xbox again. [01:41] night everyone lol. [01:41] lf4 (n=KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: "sleeping (starts work tomorrow) whats work? ;)" [01:42] here is some great bed time reading material http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level [01:43] -_- [01:45] nullboy, good, i'm looking for something...last night i was reading about oils and fats...there is a lot of stuff on that [01:45] mmm [01:46] we all exist due to the lipid bi-layer [01:46] don't cut fat out of your diet entirely, you'll fall apart [01:46] omg, /me is going to be on time at school, I'd need to waste some time on irc >< [01:47] yea...well i was reading about saturated vs unsaturated, and then went on to polyunsaturated and trans fats...and then hydrogenation process [01:47] edman007: isn't being done with school awesome? [01:47] yea...apparently you can't eat any fat soluble vitamin without fat [01:47] you get to read different bullshit instead! [01:47] nullboy, i still got 3 weeks :( [01:47] lol [01:47] i'm just lazy...and no A/C, i can't think [01:47] it won't even sink in for a month after anyway [01:48] yea...reminds me, i got to buy me some plane tickets to FL [01:48] before they get too expensive [01:48] unless i drive... [01:48] I'm going to be late actually, much better >< [01:49] Camarade_Tux, read the article on water, i did that once, omg, so much on something you thought you knew [01:49] water simply doesn't make sense! [01:49] it's a crazy compound [01:49] yea... [01:50] Action: edman007 just finished reading about water bridges [01:50] is that the electricity bridge you mean? [01:50] i saw some clip about that i think [01:50] edman007, later, gonna be late ;p [01:50] Action: Camarade_Tux has ost his bag >< [01:50] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [01:51] nullboy, yea [01:52] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.72.182) left irc: "nite" [01:52] did you watch that MIT lecture with the physics professor who talks to a class about the falling water charges [01:52] ? [01:53] no... [01:53] just the vid of someone doing it, no talking [01:53] he setup an apparatus that had wires going between a some container and a spout that would let water pour and as it goes on, the water begins to turn into droplets instead of a stream and then a spark jumps the gap [01:53] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.200) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:53] nice [01:54] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:54] and wow, HIV is only biolevel 2?...and lyme disease is the same? [01:54] yeah i was tripping out on some of those [01:54] Action: edman007 had lyme like three times...and got bells palsy the last time [01:55] ...that sucked [01:55] i guess it's because those nasties don't aerosol very easily [01:55] yea...but this sucks a lot -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bells_palsy [01:55] hey, anyone ever heard of some real psychedelic stuff going on with vesa set up? [01:56] apparently for some people its permanent too [01:56] edman007: dang what the hell [01:56] that sounds like major suckage [01:56] im running an ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, started up with vesa, and it went crazy when i started x11 [01:56] Floops (n=baihu@freakozoid.floops.info) left irc: "changing servers" [01:57] nullboy, yea...apparently lyme can cause nerve swelling which pinches off the nerve to your face [01:57] dartmouth, open source drivers? [01:57] edman007: no drivers, I said vesa [01:57] well define "crazy" [01:58] did it kill your mama? [01:58] uhm, I don't know how to explain it [01:58] its uhm [01:58] it's like there's a filter [01:58] a really psychedelic one [01:58] _guitarman_1 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] the colors are not right at all, it's almost inverted [01:58] _guitarman_1 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [01:58] step away from the crack pipe [01:59] pattwo (n=sysadmin@206.75.107.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:59] could this be a frequency thing? [01:59] dartmouth, using vga or dvi? [01:59] vga can do that if one pin does not connect, you can drop a color channel [02:01] Floops (n=baihu@freakozoid.floops.info) joined ##slackware. [02:01] LVM questions...how do I list what volume groups I have? [02:01] and their sizes? [02:01] trying to add another LVM volume group [02:01] it's vga [02:01] dartmouth, probably not in all the way or something...possibly a bad cable [02:02] redtricycle: vgdisplay [02:05] nullboy, "In endemic areas Lyme disease may be the most common cause of facial palsy." [02:05] haha, i'm in an endemic area, when i had it the doctor did not even bother getting me tested, just wrote the prescription [02:06] and he did that before i came in [02:07] tecky (n=guest@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:08] he knew haha [02:08] bleh [02:08] we don't have many ticks out here [02:09] so okay, I have a 20G /, 200G /home [02:09] was that your vector? ticks [02:09] I want to make a 10G /backup [02:09] How do I do that with lvresize? [02:09] o_o [02:09] Without losing data? [02:09] edman007, what did he give you for the "facial palsy" ? [02:09] stop making useless partitions [02:10] nooper: I want to be able to remount my partition at read-only when I'm not rsyncing to it [02:11] probably some anti-inflammatory [02:11] Old_Fogie, it was from lyme disease, so 60 days of amoxicillin [02:11] not sure an anti-fl... would help facial palsy tho, hmm, [02:11] redtricycle: are a lot of kids messing around in your computer who might accidentally go writing in /backup? [02:12] amoxi? huh, didn't know that. [02:12] I suppose not...but I'm still curious how to resize lvm partitions [02:12] nullboy, yea...i'm pretty sure where my house is we have the highest rate of lyme disease in the world...though most of the maps i found are not detailed to narrow it down as much as i would like [02:13] new york in general edman007 is pretty bad, yea [02:13] nullboy, where i am everyone in my family has had lyme multiple times, all my dogs have had it, and one dog died from it (kidney failure due to lyme) [02:14] it's a curable disease though right? so you don't relapse but just catch it again? [02:15] nullboy, eh...its a bacteria, so with enough antibiotics it will go away [02:16] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [02:16] the problem is its really hard to detect, and a lot of people can get into a stage where it never gets strong enough to show major symptoms, and the tests only test for an immune response which only shows when you have a strong infection [02:17] ah [02:17] the times when i've been the most sick have been from bacterial infections [02:17] so a lot of people take the antibiotics, and it never really goes away, the tests say negative, and then they find out 20 years later what the real cause is (because its very rare in most places, doctors don't think about it and it seems to be very weird symptoms) [02:17] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:18] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] this is probably one of the worst i've had from the ocean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strep_throat [02:18] that, and E. Coli [02:18] where i am however, it is so damn common you say anything that is even remotely close to the symptoms you get a full course of antibiotics and a blood test...and thats without even coming in [02:18] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:19] yea...i had that 2-3 times too [02:19] i also had whooping cough [02:19] never had to deal with that one [02:19] that was the worst thing i ever had [02:19] i was in an oxygen tent for a week [02:22] nullboy, there is a vaccine for whooping cough, and its one of the standard ones that everyone gets, so nobody really gets it... [02:22] i might have been too young for the vaccine or something, not sure [02:26] i need to get updated on my shots [02:28] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:28] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [02:28] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89C73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:29] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [02:29] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:29] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:29] morning [02:30] Good Morning slackytude. How are you? [02:31] heya firebird619. Im still asleep. ask again in an hour or so.how do you do? [02:31] I'm doing great. Thanks. Your typing quite well for still being asleep. [02:31] slackytude: I got my opera goodies, 2 opera pens, 1 opera t-shirt, and an opera can koozie. [02:32] bbiab [02:32] is there a new optimized kernel config for msi wind ? [02:32] can koozie? [02:32] firebird619, sounds nice but I thought it would be bigger. like an opera car or sumthing [02:33] haha, no car, but I'm happy with what I got. A can koozie is something that goes around a can of pop. The front of the shirt says "Browse Me". [02:34] heh, nice slogan [02:34] around a can of pop to cool it? [02:35] omg, the wiki stopped loading for me...am i alone? [02:35] are there any cli dc++ clients? [02:35] for linux, of course :) [02:36] oh man... downforeveryoneorjustme.com is down :( [02:36] or broken anyways [02:36] john_dee, dc++? [02:37] yay, the wiki loaded [02:38] edman007, it's gui only i think [02:38] slackytude: not so much to cool it, but keep it cool. [02:38] slackytude: Also, it *did* come from Oslo, Norway. [02:38] john_dee, heh...alright, not really helpful though... [02:38] well i'm off to bed, night [02:39] night edman007 [02:39] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [02:40] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:41] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] edman007, downforeveryoneorjustme.com is up for me :) sounds like you could use more than i could though. [02:44] man, i keep feeling hypoglycemic but i'm not [02:44] i can't figure it out [02:45] i've been eating small meals all day and the only thing i changed today was adding a multivitamin. [02:45] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [02:45] firebird619, right [02:48] slackytude: Also, no new opera 10 snapshot yet. :( [02:48] yeah, noticed that [02:48] maybe tomorrow. [02:48] Action: slackytude yawns [02:48] man, Im tired [02:49] I'm Old_Fogie , nice to meet you :) [02:49] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:49] switchify boxen, bbiab [02:49] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:49] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:50] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [02:53] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:54] prodor (n=prodor@200.92.192.99) joined ##slackware. [02:55] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:56] http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200913/3300/Teenage-girl-offers-her-virginity-in-online-auction [02:56] tr0j4n (n=enigma@222.172.214.160) joined ##slackware. [02:56] hello [02:56] nullboy: there's been a few girls over the past few years that have done that. [02:57] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Connection timed out [02:57] nullboy: and they all seem to want college paid for. [02:57] I found "Linux Kernel 2.6.x SCTP FWD Memory COrruption Remote Exploit" on milw0rm [02:57] this is already going in a bad direction, tr0j4n [02:58] does that exploit works on slackware box? [02:58] .... [02:58] go find out yourself [02:59] i don't familiar with sctp [02:59] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:59] so you need to become familiar then [02:59] are there any sctp services running on slackware? [02:59] this is research that YOU need to to [02:59] to do* [03:00] online auction for a girls virginity? [03:00] slackytude: yup. [03:00] and she hopes it will lead to marriage. [03:01] we're all for a good security talk in here but these types of questions, along with the exploit code, should be exercises that you work on yourself in order to gain the knowledge [03:01] nullboy: ok, i only care about security for the moment :) [03:01] prodor (n=prodor@200.92.192.99) left irc: "poweroff" [03:01] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:02] tr0j4n: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-0065 [03:02] tr0j4n: the short answer is: no SCTP services, no exploit. [03:02] wb Old_Fogie. :) [03:02] :D [03:03] Did you switchen your boxen? [03:03] yes I did, back on my fast box now [03:03] 866 mhz :) [03:03] why the hell am i feeling so hypoglycemic wtf is wrong with me [03:03] nullboy: is there a patch for slackware? [03:03] tr0j4n: this isn't a slackware specific exploit in the first place.... [03:03] bogomips : 1737.26 [03:04] nullboy: yep, but i use slackware [03:04] tr0j4n: reaqd what the CVE says... [03:04] READ [03:04] nullboy: and all you did different is take a multivitamin today? [03:04] firebird619: yeah man [03:04] tr0j4n: the CVE clearly states "Linux kernel before 2.6.28-git8" [03:05] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] nullboy: i know, so what should i do? leave it alone? [03:05] dude. [03:05] javascript in adobe reader, truly a pita. [03:05] tr0j4n: step 1: determine your kernel version. [03:05] tr0j4n: step 2: compare your kernel version to the problem version listed in CVE [03:05] nullboy: 2.6.27 [03:05] nullboy: yep [03:05] then you may have an issue [03:05] tr0j4n, kernel version 2.6.27 is long term support, so presumabely, if it is affected, it will be fixed by maintainer [03:05] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:06] nullboy: i mean all slackware users have to make a kernel upgrade? [03:06] not me [03:06] i run 2.6.29.2 [03:06] nullboy: you have recompiled the kernel? [03:06] tr0j4n, slackware will not upgrade kernels (typically) , for them yes you are left on your own. [03:06] tr0j4n: yes [03:07] he's not even listening to me at all ok whatever [03:07] Old_Fogie: he can't read [03:07] tr0j4n: step 3: determine if you are running any SCTP services [03:08] nullboy: don't know [03:08] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.12) joined ##slackware. [03:08] netstat -ntap and netsat -elp are nice [03:08] tr0j4n: start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol [03:08] port numbers can be referred to, if in question in /etc/services file [03:09] tr0j4n: i can tell you this though, i highly doubt you are operating anything SCTP related if you don't know it. [03:10] nullboy: are there software that are explicitly based on the original kernel> [03:11] i'm not sure i understand what you're asking [03:11] can you rephrase? [03:11] nullboy: what are the steps upgrading the kernel? [03:11] one sec [03:12] tr0j4n: i wrote this up just for that question: http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/kernel-build-generic-method.txt [03:12]