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[00:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b nogo!*@122-124*.dynamic.hinet.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:22] nogo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Racist troll [00:25] Action: thumbs blames rworkman [00:27] Not me [00:27] Or if it was, I don't recall that one [00:30] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [00:30] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [00:30] ok [00:31] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [00:37] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:37] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) joined ##slackware. [00:41] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:41] Can anyone give me the proper mirror link for slackpkg using osuosl.org? [00:42] bored to check the mirror list yourself? [00:42] sahko, it's not in the mirror list here [00:43] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware- [00:43] NaCl, yeah that's what i thought. I am getting errors though, and only with that mirror [00:43] make sure there's a '/' on the end [00:43] hmm right, its not [00:44] http://vpaste.net/tUDnN [00:44] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [00:45] what about ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware- [00:45] use rworkman's ftp [00:46] ftp osuosl also fails [00:46] hm [00:46] I use a local mirror [00:47] ah, all he has are iso's [00:48] I don't understand this at all. It's just this one mirror that has problems [00:48] NaCl: local mirror :) [00:48] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-160-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:48] yay rsync. :P [00:49] :p [00:49] hiptobecubic, works for me [00:49] strange [00:49] mirror from alienBOB mirror scripts works, just used it, minutes ago [00:49] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [00:49] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[02:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b nogo!*@122-124*.dynamic.hinet.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:25] everyone asleep now> [02:29] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [02:29] OffPlanet (~meler@ppp-69-238-19-128.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:31] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:34] lotec: I am here [02:35] i cant sleep and bored to death [02:35] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.100.214) joined ##slackware. [02:37] lotec: same here, looking for some good games [02:50] Hello chan, I am currently running Slackware 13.1, but I would like to upgrade to -current. Is it still safe to follow the sequence in the UPGRADE.TXT? Or should I look elsewhere for guidelines? [02:51] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:57] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [03:00] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.100.214) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:01] follow the guide you will be fine [03:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [03:07] thanks [03:09] I am creating a shell script that verifies whether a folder is empty, and in case it is, removes it. how can I do this? if -d $file returns TRUE whether the directory is empty or not! [03:11] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: And Punt [03:12] find . -depth -type d -empty -delete [03:13] tsccof: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-shell-check-if-directory-empty/ [03:14] I found an even simpler way just now [03:14] if [[ -d $file && -s $file ]] [03:18] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:21] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-90-140.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:24] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:29] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-90-140.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [03:30] oops if [[ -d $file && ! -s $file ]] [03:32] tsccof: http://duramecho.com/ComputerPrograms/DeleteEmptyDirectories/index.html [03:32] scccrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllll down [03:32] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:32] if [[ -d $file && ! -s $file ]] < does the trick [03:33] also, why [[ and ]] ? [03:33] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-90-140.kotinet.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:42] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:49] josemanuel (~josemanue@178.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:50] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [03:52] Hi, my current PC has Slackware 13. If I install 13.1 on my hard disk, and buy a new PC next month, will I have to do the 13.1 installation again? Or will it work without any issue if I just plug the hard disk on this PC on the new PC? [03:52] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:52] http://i.imgur.com/CJETR.jpg (sfw) [03:54] Oak: should work, it might also take some fiddling if your disk "name" changes (the /dev/sdXY part, but it probably won't) [03:54] other than that, all will be good yes? [03:55] Current PC is AMD... new one will be Intel [03:56] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [03:57] pete` (~user@021.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Oak: it should be all right, yea [03:57] thanks a lot tsccof [03:57] AlexElliott (~alex@client-86-31-166-142.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:58] :) I should proceed with the installation ... [03:58] Oak: :) glad to help, in case it doesn't boot, chroot it and change the fstab accordingly [03:58] yes, thanks will do [03:59] bye [03:59] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [04:04] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [04:04] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:08] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.173.131.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [04:11] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:12] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Hi. Do you think that corporation records web traffic? so they know what wepages i'm surfing on? [04:14] Of course they do. [04:15] But won't that generate a huge amount of data? [04:17] for a public enemy like you, they're willing to spare them [04:18] c'mon dude, i'm serious [04:18] this is a Slackware support channel [04:19] i know, sorry for being offtopic but most of my questions were answere in here [04:19] dudes in here rock [04:20] if you want privacy from a corporate network, you should use ssh port-forwarding. [04:20] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.173.131.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:21] Oh and encrypt your home drive with ecryptfs; so your keys won't get stolen. [04:22] Buggaboo: I am using ssh to connect to my home pc and run pidgin (so im won't be intercepted) [04:22] but I wont something for brosing to [04:22] s/to/too [04:22] Mowah (~Mowah@c-c18be555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:22] use x-forwarding to run firefox. [04:22] also, I'm affraid of keyloggers [04:23] use your own keyboard and scan the computer I guess for keyloggers. [04:23] if you're so paranoid, why the hell would you use a machine there anyway? [04:25] because I work there? [04:25] and the work is done on computers [04:25] I think there are pills for your paranoia. Don't stay on them for too long. [04:27] Do you really think I have no solid basis for being "paranoid"? [04:34] you're pwned anyway [04:40] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-17-119-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:41] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-122-196-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [04:46] v4nelle (~van@79.107.244.196) joined ##slackware. [04:47] v4nelle (~van@79.107.244.196) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:49] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:52] v4nelle (~van@79.107.244.196) joined ##slackware. [04:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [04:55] tribeca (~naitso@host251-240-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[05:18] thumbs: it was me, not rworkman, who put a ban on nogo after he kept bashing the chinese and hailing supremacy of koreans yesterday [05:19] sahko: depending on the driver, yes [05:19] ie, the legacy-drivers don't [05:19] hmm i got a weird library error yesterday for it with stream from imagemagick [05:20] but didnt research it much, i just rebuilt imagemagick [05:20] and i had only rebuilt nvidia to work with the updated xorg-server [05:20] weird [05:22] meaning, imagemagick/stream had been built to link against it, updated xorg, rebuilt nvidia, --> broken link [05:22] I see a possible conflict between ATI Stream and nvidia-driver, but that sounds like something different? [05:23] yeah i saw that too, i dont have anything ati [05:24] hm, I don't see it provided by anything else than nvidia-driver on my system. [05:24] How can I make firefox on win to use ssh tunnel to my home pc running linux? [05:24] port forwarding or so [05:27] v4nelle (~van@79.107.244.196) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:31] pprkut: yeah, saw that, also means that it had absolutely no chance of working with my current setup :P [05:31] hehe [05:31] pprkut: I doubt it includes .36 support, I think it'll be for the 258.xx driver [05:32] also, I could probably patch it and get it working but no time for that right now :-) [05:32] adrien: do you have powersaving capabilities with nouveau? [05:32] resuming from suspend etc [05:32] sahko: yes and no [05:33] for suspend, well, I *just* woke up my computer from sleep [05:33] power saving is different: there is no PM in nouveau, *HOWEVER* it does save power compared to vesa/nv/{nvidia when in console} [05:34] basically, it looks like nouveau saves half the power that nvidia can save [05:34] im mostly interested in suspending and resuming correctly [05:35] sahko: was that on -stable or -current? [05:35] I think it's like when you're in your BIOS: the cpu isn't doing anything but is running as fast as possible and getting quite hot, as soon as you get into an OS, even without explicit power saving capabilities, it heats less [05:35] and when on AC, nouveau and nvidia seem to use the same amount of power (since it seems you can't force nvidia to save power, rah...) [05:35] pprkut: current, but like i said stream is custom package, the Slackware one doesnt probably link against libOpenCL [05:36] sahko: it's working, there might be a problem right now but I'm running a non-stable kernel [05:36] sahko: ah, ok [05:38] saTTY (~satyendra@218.248.80.52) joined ##slackware. [05:40] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Windows 7 c'est mon copain [05:46] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:47] ilker (~ilker@88.236.47.126) joined ##slackware. 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[05:57] ls -la /usr/bin/wine -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6968 2010-08-23 16:09 /usr/bin/wine [05:57] you have a multilib install? [05:57] I used to have it (13.0) before I upgraded to 13.1 [05:58] I'll check /var/log/packages, brb [05:58] which means you can't run 32bit apps [05:58] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:58] hm. [05:58] it's gone. [05:59] that error message is probably the worst ever: says something (file not found) while the actual error is completely different (multilib not supported / bad architecture) [05:59] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [05:59] I hit "ldd $(which wine)" [05:59] which gave me for bullcrap. [06:00] not a dynamic executable [06:00] if you don't have multilib, this is all expected [06:01] yeah, that's probably it. [06:01] I'm confoozled on why multilib should suddenly disappear. [06:02] hm. [06:02] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-122-196-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:02] wait. [06:02] ls /var/log/packages/*multilib* [06:02] but the packages aren't called that. [06:03] who cares? you installed 13.1 packages over the 13.0 multilib packages, you've overwritten the files [06:03] s/who cares/and/ [06:03] pete` (~user@021.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:03] ah. [06:04] that completely makes sense. [06:04] the files in http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.1/ [06:04] are prefix the same way as normal libs. [06:04] +ed [06:04] thanks adrien [06:04] But they all have "alien" in the tag [06:05] yeah I "ls -la /var/log/packages/*alien*" and found only one package by him. [06:08] You can easily overwrite the multilib gcc and glibc packages if you did not blacklist them in slackpkg, or if you use upgradepkg indiscriminately [06:09] btw, thanks for letting me hammer your webserver :P [06:10] my spidersense tells me it's bad to upgrade glibc etc. while in init 4. [06:10] brb. [06:10] going to 1. [06:10] Depends. It is not "my" server per se. I just host stuff there [06:11] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-17-119-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:11] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:12] lyx has version-to-version patches (yay). guess what, they don't work (boo) [06:15] saTTY (satyendra@218.248.80.52) left ##slackware. [06:15] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[06:40] :-) thankyou [06:40] yep, it is a cli flag, not an x resource [06:40] sorry [06:49] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:49] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [06:50] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:50] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [06:59] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-25.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:05] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:08] trone_ (~sim@host123-21-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:12] trone (~sim@host143-59-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:13] nogo (~olpc@122-124-131-199.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:13] ##slackware: mode change '+b nogo!*@122-124*.dynamic.hinet.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:13] nogo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Racist troll [07:14] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:19] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [07:22] archcezar (1000@acvw85.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:23] indubitableness1 (~indubitab@99.158.7.21) joined ##slackware. [07:24] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-64-68-242.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:25] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:25] archceza1 (1000@actv230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:26] trone, if you're still here, sorry for the bad info, it is a resource [07:29] mancha: no problem. I'm here, and it is a resource? what? [07:30] (I read the xterm man page but dont find it) [07:33] Nick change: trone_ -> trone [07:34] xterm*cursorUnderLine: true [07:34] (for underline instead of box) [07:34] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:36] yeah. thanks. :) [07:36] np, works, aye? [07:36] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl13-199-6.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:36] i have plugin errors missing in -current for audacious [07:37] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [07:39] mancha: yeah. works perfectly. [07:40] pupit: yes I saw those too [07:40] Will probably be fixed in the next batch of -current updates [07:40] Rebuilding audacious should fix it pupit [07:40] alienBOB: ok, just reporting :) [07:44] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [07:49] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[08:26] slobad2323 (~jake@95.144.106.25) joined ##slackware. [08:27] Do programs installed from slackbuilds.org go into the pkgtool files so that I can update and uninstall them from there? [08:28] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:31] slobad2323: yup [08:35] Where does it pull the updates from once installed from slackbuilds? [08:36] updates are manual unless you have installed something that automates them [08:37] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-25.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [08:38] and sbopkg is a start [08:38] Roin, I have seen you on here quite a lot... I am still only using Slackware on a virtual machine because I found issues with Slackbuilds and couldn't get the third party applications to work. It strikes me that so many people seem to be using Slackware and after listening to Patrick V. on a webcast from years ago on package management, it was the ONE time that lack of dependency resolution had been explained better than "because that's how we like it [08:38] "... I digress... what Distro would you use if Slackware disappeared tomorrow? [08:40] mac [08:40] alisonken1home, Really?? Why's that? [08:40] bah [08:40] Would go back to Mint, but thats not the point of a support channel isnt it? :D [08:40] alisonken1home: I'm disappointed ='( [08:40] sh0ne (~sh0ne@109-93-10-131.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined ##slackware. [08:40] slobad2323: if you found issues with SlackBuilds you should ask for information and help about those issues [08:40] for that question i would give bsd a go (only went slack cause back in the mid 90's i was trying stuff out and bsd wouldn't install but slack did) [08:41] well, what other distro is as good as slack? if it's not available might as well branch out [08:41] :) [08:41] slobad2323: http://sbopkg.org/ thats a good starting point as alisonken1home already said, it can do updates for you as well, considering the maintainer of the package pushes them to the repo [08:41] alisonken1home: haha [08:42] alisonken1home: a bsd maybe [08:42] but yeah, there's no reason to wonder [08:42] adaptr: that too [08:43] if slackware was abandonned, I/someone/we would fork it [08:44] the only problem will bw making sure the fork maintainer is as good as pat was [08:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Windows 7 c'est mon copain [08:44] Are there any signs of slackware beeing abandonned that you guys are discussing that so lively? ._. *scared* [08:44] someone like fred maybe :) [08:45] no - someone just asked - and it's the middle of the weekend [08:45] if there was no slackware, LFS [08:45] Oh ok [08:46] think of how proud you would be if you got a LFS system working [08:46] LFS is not even in the same category as most distros. it's a recipe, not a product [08:47] Roin: you kno, it's like when people asked what would happen if Linus died tomorrow... 10 years ago [08:47] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:47] if linus died, linux would go on. slackware is another story [08:47] adrien: yeah, I was just a little bit scared that I missed something important :p [08:47] is slackware going to end>? [08:47] Action: dustybin feels scared [08:48] :( [08:48] I'm afk coffee @.@ [08:48] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [08:49] this month in theaters "free(volkerdi)": "Patrick Volkerding has been kidnapped by aliens, will he be rescued in time for the next security update of firefox or is this the slackware(tm) of slackware?" [08:49] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-107-148.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:50] come pay $12 to find it out! [08:50] this the end* [08:53] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:55] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [08:56] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [08:56] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [09:01] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:05] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:10] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Nick change: Roin -> FCC|Roin [09:14] (##slackware) Channel ban on nogo!*@122-124*.dynamic.hinet.net expired. [09:14] ##slackware: mode change '-b nogo!*@122-124*.dynamic.hinet.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:14] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Client Quit [09:14] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [09:16] slobad2323 (~jake@95.144.106.25) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:24] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [09:24] \o [09:25] installed Slackware 13.1 [09:25] Well done ;-) [09:25] hehe [09:26] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:26] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:27] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:30] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [09:33] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:34] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-45-131-231.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:34] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:34] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F3C5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] hello [09:35] Hi o/ [09:37] i would like to increase the maximum framebuffer of my xorg system so that i can use my both monitors in their optimal resolution [09:37] the thing is i do not see any /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my system [09:37] i'm running slackware 13.0 [09:37] am i missing something? [09:37] freelibrary: which graphic driver? [09:37] intel [09:38] might try 13.1 [09:38] -> xrandr [09:38] and if you run kde, then the krandr tool works nice3 [09:38] and now, I'm supposed to work... [09:39] adaptr, yes i'm using this tool but the the problem is: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 2048x2048 (desired size 2960x1050) [09:39] adrien, i meant :) [09:40] yeah, might need to set a bigger virtual screen (keywords for google) [09:40] but right now I can't help you, I have to work [09:40] thank you [09:41] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [09:41] work on a sunday? I thought that was illegal [09:43] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [09:43] okay the virtual screen size is statically set in xorg.conf, however i do not have this file in my /etc/X11/ [09:43] i'm confused [09:43] freelibrary: how do you mean? [09:43] /etc/X11$ ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf [09:43] /bin/ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory [09:44] deckard563 (~deckard13@250.92.broadband6.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [09:44] 1234 [09:44] I use two monitors combined to a virtual desktop that would be around 2960x1050 (which is at work, so I can not check here right now) and I do not use a xorg.conf at all. I let xrandr handle the virtual screen [09:44] No need to define a virtual screen in xorg.conf [09:45] where do i need to define it then? [09:45] i would like to define a larger virtual screen than the default 2048x2048 [09:45] how do i go about this? [09:47] deckard563 (deckard13@250.92.broadband6.iol.cz) left ##slackware. [09:47] if you use kde or gnome, their randr tools can help remember your settings when you load them. if not, you can put together a basic xorg.conf [09:47] i use kde [09:48] then try loading the randr tool :) [09:48] i don't understand [09:49] anybody know if linus torvalds has started to use kde again? [09:49] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:50] thrice`, krandrtray doesn't let me set the size of the virtual screen [09:50] ah, complains about the size? [09:50] yeah [09:51] the default size is 2048x2048 and i need 2960x1050 [09:51] you're sure it can do it? [09:51] and i don't know how can i change that [09:51] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [09:51] one tutorial said i need to set that value in my xorg.conf file but apparently my system doesn't use such a file [09:52] make it :> [09:52] okay [09:53] can i just put only the the virtual screen size stuff in it [09:53] an nothing else [09:53] because i have no idea what else should go in there [09:54] Nick change: FCC|Roin -> Roin [09:54] sure, should be OK [09:54] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:54] really? [09:54] awesome [09:55] zulu909 (~zulu909@c80-216-23-190.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [09:57] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F3C5B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:00] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F3C5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] nope not really [10:01] installpkg freelibrary [10:01] ? [10:01] freelibrary: im installing you :D [10:01] oh how nice of you :) [10:02] didnt' work? did you add your new mode to xrandr ? [10:02] x wouldn't start at all [10:03] i found a excellent way to found out what IRC server to use, i dont seem to get lag anymore. go through the list of freenode irc servers and use traceroute, use the one with the least amount of hops, no more lag, good stable connection :D [10:04] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:07] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F3C5B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:07] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:16] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-135-68.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:18] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F3C5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:19] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. 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[11:32] hi i just installed pygame1.9.1 release from source for python3 , now im having an import error when i tru to import module font, what could cause this? [11:32] the python guys could have caused this, kimjeng. [11:33] Mowah (~Mowah@c-c18be555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:33] do i ask them? or is there a work around out there? [11:34] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:34] theres bound to be a python channel somewhere... better have some more info handy to share with em tho. [11:35] ok [11:36] python3? is slackware shipping pythong3? 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Ended up switching back to transmission [12:29] ok thanks hiptobecubic [12:29] rtorrent ftw [12:29] rtorrent isn't as convenient [12:30] rtorrent rocks [12:30] yes it does. back and forth :) [12:30] It works, sure. [12:30] mldonkey [12:30] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [12:30] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:30] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.62.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Oak, deluge is good. but it's pretty heavy [12:31] pure cli + you can fiddle around with the source, dive into mad scripting, look stupid on the mailinglist, and all that. with your gui torrent client of choice, yar just ignored these days. [12:31] lol [12:31] which is why I use mldonkey =) [12:32] Any program for netbook webcam in default Slackware 13.0 distro? Or I have to go with slackbuildS? [12:32] i was not entirely serious. it's what i do. scare newbs into silence ;) [12:32] jg71: haha [12:32] trone: you should at least say what you intend to use it for [12:32] trone, for just looking at your webcam output? i use wxcam. or google "flash webcam test" [12:33] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.100.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:33] I use mplayer :P [12:33] adrien: ehm... at the moment I would just test if it works. :) Oh, you're right... also mplayer.. [12:33] mplayer / vlc works too [12:33] ok. too much. :) [12:34] yeah, vlc and mplayer are the bomb [12:35] tbh, i only use mplayer. if i cant get it to work via avidemux, should probs arise, i dont bother. delete, get a different version. [12:35] delete what? [12:36] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-28-229.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:36] iGaucho (~iGaucho@72.8.67.132) left irc: Quit: iGaucho [12:37] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-107-148.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:37] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:37] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) joined ##slackware. [12:38] Nick change: BiCHiTo -> Guest64165 [12:39] hiptobecubic: delete the foo i cant get to work via mplayer natively, then i try to apply avidemux, load & save, if thats not cutting it i nod, respectfully, and just delete the crap. (in case it wasnt obvious) [12:39] oh [12:39] perfect example: macgruber 720p mkv. [12:42] trone: gqcam has worked with every camera ive tried. Maybe thats a thing you could use ? [12:43] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [12:44] yep. one needs hd to fully appreciate macgruber [12:44] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-28-229.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:45] hmmm, seriously, is it worth anything? [12:46] sorry, i thought my sarcasm was obvious [12:47] it was, at least to me ananke ;) [12:47] I wasn't 100% sure ;-) [12:48] I had never heard of it also [12:48] adrien: comedy sketch from SNL [of present day], extended into a movie. you can deduce the rest [12:48] well, theres some avi 720p rip out, that kinda works. the mkv 720p foo doesnt, and yes, i dont know what it is all about either. [12:49] myracle foo [12:49] oh if we diss comedys... the expendables is far sup to the other guys. [12:49] jg71: and i'd be careful mentioning that kind of stuff on freenode [12:50] ananke: i am. id never do that. [12:50] ok, I think I see... [12:50] i'm not 'dissing' comedies. macgruber and its toilet humor hardly qualifies as one [12:50] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:56] EthanG (~ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) joined ##slackware. [12:57] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left ##slackware. 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[13:20] (man adduser doesnt exist) [13:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:20] use the kde app [13:20] gpasswd -a trone audio [13:20] jg71: i'm not on kde - [13:21] gpasswd is the easiest way to manipulate group stuff [13:21] trone: KUser User Manager. ok, ive had good results by editing the plain config file via vim. [13:21] logout-login, voila [13:21] thrice`: ++, thanks. :) [13:22] np [13:22] some real love there ... hope we are invited to the wedding, gngngngn ;) [13:22] you can do it with usermod some how too, but if you goof up the syntax, you can wipe the other groups you're in. gpasswd is usually easier in that sense [13:24] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-160-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [13:29] usermod allows this via -a, i think slackware might be lagging in versions... [13:31] anyone buy parts off of DigiKey? [13:37] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:39] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [13:40] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [13:45] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:46] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:47] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:47] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [13:49] hello [13:49] someone use cairo-composite ? [13:49] cairo-compmgr ? [13:49] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:50] edthix (~ed@115.133.244.30) joined ##slackware. [13:53] not me but I'd be happy to hear about it [13:53] xcompmgr sucks [13:54] :) [13:54] I use it actually but my screen is very very slow :( [13:54] (the only reason I run it is because nouveau needs one) [13:54] (one compositing manager) [13:54] hmmm, maybe not anymore [13:55] nouveau is incompatible with cairo-compmgr ? [13:56] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:56] nah [13:56] nouveau performs much better with a composit* manager [13:56] oh [13:56] since I don't run kde, I use xcompmgr which is bundled with X but which is basically unmaintained [13:56] I used nouveau... [13:57] nouveau + X + sawfish ° cairo-compmgr [13:57] I just made a try: alsamixer in an xterm with and without xcompmgr (-a), X' usage was 3 to 5 times lower when xcompmgr was running [13:57] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:57] oh [13:57] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:58] why were you asking about cairo-compmgr? [13:59] maybe I misntalled it but it is very very slow [13:59] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [13:59] plugins running? [13:59] in fact I can't run it [13:59] heh [13:59] I disabled all the plugins [14:00] what is slow exactly? which hardware? which xorg version? [14:00] hmm [14:00] I used radeon drivers + xorg 1.7.7 [14:01] slow...hmmm...xterm take...maybe 20s to open [14:03] rworkman: btw, I completely forgot to mention that, but nouveau is *much* faster if a compositing manager is running (or less cpu-intensive) (xcompmgr is enough [ I use 'xcompmgr -a' ]) [14:03] janemba: and without it, it's ok? [14:03] adrien: yep [14:04] the project's bug report system might be your best option here [14:04] oh oh [14:04] ok :) [14:04] adrien: thx [14:05] well, tell me if you get it worked out :-) [14:05] also, newer X versions might be faster [14:06] ok ;) [14:07] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A2CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:08] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:08] idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:09] idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) joined ##slackware. [14:10] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [14:10] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A2CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:17] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [14:21] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. 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[15:03] alienBOB, how's it handle [15:03] im running it on bsd.. decent, i'm getting tired of the bsd router, it locked up on me the other day, im trying tor ebuild world and it just fails in the beginning, i'm considering running a few hour memtest later [15:03] i haven't used iptables in a long time. [15:03] so i'll have to learn to route certain source ips to the proxy. [15:04] shouldn't be an issue [15:04] How install slackware 13.1 by this 5 Disk? is must i download all this 5 disck install slackware or no need ? [15:04] Iraqi, no dvd? [15:05] dvd is 4 giga can't downloading it [15:05] if you're gonna only use cd's, just pick the packages you want or full install.. the installation should request the cd's [15:05] i mean new version for slackware 13.1 by torrent [15:05] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] every time you try to download, the US coalition forces creates a new ground zero, ruining your download? ah yea.. they enjoy doing that for some reason [15:05] brb [15:06] so that mean must downloading all disk? [15:06] are you looking to do a full install? [15:06] sure for full install i want running full without any problem [15:06] ? [15:07] yea then either download all the cd's or download the dvd [15:07] brb [15:07] Thanks [15:07] Iraqi: you only need the first 3 [15:07] or get a usb stick and do a net install [15:07] the first 3 cds [15:08] Thanks Guys too much i will try all but want many days :) [15:08] Iraqi: you can also buy them from store.slackware.com [15:09] Slackware is freeware or must purchest? [15:09] sh0ne (~sh0ne@109-93-10-131.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:09] its free [15:09] so why i buy it? [15:10] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-160-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:10] to save bandwidth [15:10] but creating a CD and shipping it isn't, that's what you'd be paying for (plus, showing your support) [15:11] to save bandwidth < sorry what you mean? [15:12] you are purchasing a physical CD [15:12] there are come it to late [15:12] ashe (~ashe@125.163.15.145) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:12] must downloading faster [15:13] downloading want one week , but wait to market come it want 2 or 3 month [15:13] ashe (~ashe@125.166.173.98) joined ##slackware. [15:13] ask from some us soldier to download it for you. they usually have decent connections [15:13] disk in iraq come from syria so will be later [15:14] I can't get any US Army [15:14] in my city very little us army have [15:14] Irbil < Korea catch it [15:14] penetrate their infrastructure and steal their internet [15:15] Mowah (~Mowah@c-6d80e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:16] find a us soldier with a default linksys router [15:19] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:20] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:20] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:20] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:21] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:21] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Sorry Disconnection [15:22] sahko, if you have any one of this soldier give me number i will call him [15:22] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:22] must be north iraq to i can go to him [15:23] Iraqi: just download the first 3 cds [15:23] ok ok [15:23] or download first and use ftp install? [15:23] with a shitty connection thats worst imo [15:23] bad Net just by torrent can't ftp [15:24] the torture of waiting for the download will be rough [15:24] ah yea ftp is out [15:24] might also skip the 3 CD depending on what you want [15:24] but really, it depends [15:24] speed 5 - 10kb/s [15:24] nice... [15:24] dial-up [15:24] yes [15:24] i used to get 12k with 56k usrobotics [15:24] cellphone 3G [15:24] admboom: quite a lot [15:24] That has to require a lot of patience [15:25] err, too much actually :P [15:25] for download 1 giga want 3 - 4 days [15:25] Iraqi: arent there internet cafe's or univercities with good connections you can use? [15:25] adrien, usr concentrator and "beta" firmware, bit tweaked on the compression - memories.. [15:25] ( http://pers.yaxm.org/Images/dialup.jpg ) [15:25] admboom: yeah, compression probably ;-) [15:25] going sleep after that back :D [15:26] admboom: I'd get < 4KB/s usually, up to 6KB/s and in the last days (before going DSL), up to 8KB/s! [15:26] coffe is same not good speed and i'm not in collage [15:26] Iraqi: what is your computer? [15:27] Action: adrien wonders if a space-speed tradeoff would be possible [15:27] hp pavilition tx2564 [15:27] dexom (~dexom@p5B0EFBC0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] touch screen and slid monter [15:28] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:28] what's the CPU? how much memory? [15:28] kde question: when i launch programs, the cursor tends to have this bouncing icon for way too long. can i turn that off? [15:29] ut: yes, it is called launch feedback in the control center somewhere [15:29] RAM 3 G /Processor AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-82, 2200 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) [15:29] thanks :) [15:29] ut: you can also turn down the time [15:29] i had no idea how to look for it [15:29] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [15:30] ut: non-kde applications dont notify kdelib when they are done launching, thats why it blinks for the full 30 secs [15:30] that's exactly what i've been seeing. it's all gnome apps and stuff. [15:30] ut: real kde apps automatically call the stop-blinking-annoying-gizmo() [15:31] ut: i have mine set to 5 secs.. thats how long slow ass firefox usually is to start anyway :P [15:31] Action: ut grins [15:31] set it off, its annoying [15:32] 2 seconds doesn't feel bad. [15:32] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [15:33] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-254-18.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Action: jeev is taking food suggestions [15:34] what should i eat [15:34] dung? [15:34] haha [15:34] no, no cock either [15:34] i dont swing your way [15:34] jeev: frogs [15:34] oh, and snails [15:34] negative [15:35] i live in america, the land of the oil and heart attacks [15:35] little pieces of barbed wire and glass? [15:35] negative [15:35] jeev: fried rice with chopped roasted chicken [15:35] beef stew that's been cooking for hours with potatoes and carrots and other stuff. [15:35] jeev, go to Mcdonalds and get 50 chicken nuggets? [15:35] mako-sama, i'd have to search fo rsmoething good like that [15:35] mcdonalds? no way [15:35] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [15:35] search? [15:35] although their chicken sandwich is pretty good [15:35] why? make it [15:35] Action: ut is still afraid of chicken nuggets [15:35] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-135-68.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:35] mako-sama, no thanks [15:36] there's a good thai place but it's like 8 miles away, im too lazxy [15:36] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [15:36] ut: that sounds like something i would eat :-) [15:36] i ate the entire $7.25 plate and barfed that night cause it was too much food [15:36] ut: that is, the beef stew [15:36] is anyone here very familiar with make? I can't FF 4 to build and I have determined the cause is that /usr/lib64 isn't considered a standard lib path by make on slackware64 [15:36] heheh. i was trying to think of something good i'd eaten in the last few weeks. [15:36] jeev, how about some cerial???? [15:36] i had that for breakfast [15:37] pizza/?? [15:37] jeev: cup ramen [15:37] tacos? [15:37] i dont feel like pizza [15:37] not interested in ramen [15:37] mayo sandwitch??? [15:37] mcdonalds more recent burgers are pretty good. [15:37] lotec, i was considering my favorite burrito but it's 5 miles away (lazy) [15:37] ut, yea i know i tried the angus mushroom, it's fucking awesome [15:37] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:37] but i'm not interested in a future heart attack [15:38] dude... you don't want anything [15:38] heheh [15:38] zulu909 (~zulu909@c80-216-23-190.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [15:38] i dont want subway, im alone right now.. so i cant go anywhere nice [15:38] edmond007, that is weird man [15:38] jeev: may I suggest yougurt+chopped onions+raw garlic [15:38] jeev: you don't want to eat anything anyway [15:38] :P [15:38] mako-sama, i want a meal, not a warm up [15:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:38] jeev: kill your neighbor? fry them up???? [15:39] lotec, i decided to not eat meat today [15:39] jeev: that's not a warmup. you put that sauce on plain/white rice :) [15:39] o :( [15:39] lotec, yes it is, i think it is genuinely a slackware64 bug, but i'm looking at the slackbuild for make and it never specifies anything, so it could just be an issue with make itself [15:39] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [15:39] i wish the armenian/persian kabob shops were open right now, get some real taste of home food. [15:39] edman007: want a dirty work-around? [15:40] only ones 9open are in the mall, not interested [15:40] (also, make doesn't care, it's gcc) [15:40] adrien, no, it is make, not gcc [15:40] edman007, i thought it would just look for lib to be honest, expecialy if it is a 64bit app [15:40] I also doubt it's your problem, but on the other hand, it's firefox ... [15:40] js: -lpthread\n\techo ABC [15:40] edman007: hmmm [15:40] I need to upgrade my damn firefox also [15:40] % strings $(which make) | grep usr [15:41] mentions /usr/lib here but on 64bit, not sure what's the deal [15:41] make can't do that on slackware64, that rule relies on make searching for the library, not gcc or ld [15:41] hehehe i am still on 3.0.19 [15:41] adrien, /usr/lib but no /usr/lib64 [15:41] it probably shouldn't have /usr/lib at all [15:41] last time i upgraded, it messed up the tab restart stuff [15:42] firefox uses a rule similar to the one i posted [15:42] edman007, i know u probley want to build it, but is there a prebuilt for it? [15:43] maybe that will fix the issue? until they figure out what is going on? [15:43] edman007: the ugly work-around is a symlink from /usr/lib to /usr/lib64 (mv lib, don't rm it!= [15:43] submit a bug report?? [15:43] ) [15:43] stunix (1000@85.19.141.75) joined ##slackware. [15:43] lotec, i hacked the VPATH in the problem makefiles to force /usr/lib64 in it, 2 files need a 1 line patch, but it is hackey, and it hasn't completed, so i don't know if it is successful.. [15:44] adrien, that is more than ugly [15:44] edman007, what is the fail msg?? [15:44] lotec, i'm going through the make source and slackbuild, going to find out how it comes up with its own paths [15:44] got yea [15:44] *** No rule to make target `-lpthread', needed by `WriteArgument'. Stop. [15:44] edman007: temporary [15:45] i have not built FF in so long, FF acts like it gets worse and worse as time go on [15:45] because -lpthread is a dep of `WriteArgument' in the FF build scripts, so it causes make to check that it exists before proceeding [15:45] edman007: ok, want the good solution? which is also the fastest one? [15:45] it does exist, but make isn't looking in the right place [15:45] it shouldn't even try to build -lpthread [15:45] "js: -lpthread" WHO wrote that? [15:45] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [15:45] exactly, but it does because it can't find libpthread.so because it isn't looking in /usr/lib64 [15:46] adrien, autoconf, i looked through the scripts, thousands of lines of stuff, too difficult to fix [15:46] edman007: ok, I have two solutions for you, both are good, both will make you feel better and the whole humanity will thank you for both, which one do you want? 1 or 2? [15:46] has anyone seen any issues with zlib.so segfaulting wiht the new php update? [15:46] adrien, i think i'm just going to go ahead and patch every problem makefile i find in FF [15:46] gniks: with mod_php and apache httpd? [15:47] thumbs: yes [15:47] but i also want to fix make on slackwarwe [15:47] gniks: do you need the extension? [15:47] i have the extension, but it is causing php to segfault [15:47] gniks: can you unload it? [15:47] i did, waiting for the cron to run again thats showing the issue [15:47] edman007: I think ff probably uses some arcane corner of make noone else uses [15:47] and probably not on purpose [15:48] adrien, yea, i think that is part of the problem [15:48] gniks: it's probably a linking issue. [15:48] you should go for my solution 1 then: remove all their build crap and write a new one from scratch [15:48] but the make docs say it *should* work [15:48] hahaha [15:48] gniks: you installed the binary package, right? [15:48] the doc also says firefox should be secure and fast [15:48] :( [15:49] thumbs: yeah& the only thing i can think of if its a linking issue, is a perl mod [15:49] gniks: compiling the module from source (using the slackbuild) might fix that. [15:49] hmm, its more than just that extension [15:49] php itself is segfaulting [15:49] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- [15:49] rt_sigreturn(0xb) [15:50] gniks: yes, but that [15:50] 's my point. [15:50] gniks: recompiling mod_php will likely fix the linking issues. [15:50] let me try a few more things really quick [15:51] cause apache was updated too the other day [15:51] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] I know. 2.2.16 [15:53] hmm, this is actually happening with the CLI PHP not mod_php :p [15:54] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:54] gniks: aha. [15:54] Action: gniks hopes that means you know what broke, hehe [15:55] actually let me try something else& i added an extension today that may be causing this [15:56] i installed zend_optimizer for a PHP site im working on [15:56] looking at my cacti graphs, the issue started around the same time :p [15:57] gniks: you're getting too specific into php-land. Better ask the idiots in ##php [15:57] lol [15:58] well if it doesn't happen again, i know its that extension :p [15:58] that's what the folks say when I send them there for php issues. [15:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] the channel is full of ignorant blabbering idiots, apparently. [15:59] yup that was it [15:59] ##slackware? definitely :P [15:59] that nasty zend optimizer extension [15:59] lulz @thumbs and adrien [15:59] they can't be as ignorant and blabbering than #postfix [16:00] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:00] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [16:00] gniks: the IQ went up in #postfix as soon as I banned seanjohn. [16:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:00] oh good :) [16:00] gniks: postfix isn't filled with idiots, but rtfm elitists [16:01] yeah ive noticed& sadly, my issues are outside of the realm of rtfm :D [16:01] well, when i had them [16:01] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [16:01] anyway, thanks for listening ot me blabber about my php issues [16:01] time for me to shower :) [16:02] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] r-tz (rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:02] nyRednek: some answer like that. But I agree that the bar is set much higher in that channel for newcomers. [16:03] nyRednek: for the most part, if the question is intelligent, the answer is prompt. [16:05] nyRednek: the bottom line is that help is far more forthcoming in #postfix than in ##php. [16:05] thumbs: maybe so [16:07] thumbs: well, wife went grand mal while scavenging...back to get the stuff she wanted, not letting her back out there [16:07] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:10] m00p (~topcat@212.150.147.230) joined ##slackware. [16:10] v4nelle (~van@79.107.244.196) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Are there desktop widgets for xfce WM? [16:13] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:13] Nick change: m00p -> m00py [16:15] !seen phrag [16:16] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-215-37.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:16] m00py: phrag was last seen 1 day 2 hours and 54 minutes ago, saying "see you in a month" [16:17] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-215-37.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:17] bleh [16:17] but I'm not a bot and made this up =) [16:18] lol [16:18] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-223-229.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] hahaha [16:18] (on the other hand, we on the 30th so "next month" could be very soon ;-) ) [16:18] well, 29th actually [16:18] you didnt say "next" :P [16:18] oh, right :p [16:19] lol @ adrien, good one [16:19] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-205-100.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-205-100.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] lotec, i found the bug in slackware! [16:20] :-) [16:20] edman007: :o [16:20] edman007, nice [16:20] the slackbuild for make doesn't set --libdir [16:20] where? [16:21] O.o [16:21] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:21] and make uses it, even if it doesn't create a lib [16:21] you rebuilt and everything and it's working? (already? ;-) ) [16:21] yup [16:21] at least my test makefile [16:21] doing FF right now [16:22] edman007, that is sweet, going to submit the bugfix? [16:22] where do I submit them against slackware? [16:22] mail? [16:22] just email it to someone? [16:23] 127.0.0.1@example.com [16:23] :/ [16:23] ok [16:23] hehehehe [16:23] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:24] wadup slackers [16:24] so, uhh...what is pats email? it's his name on the slackbuild [16:24] well, I've started a "repacking" of slackware64-current and it won't complete before two or three hours [16:24] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] edman007: well, can you guess? :P [16:25] i am looking edman [16:25] edman007: can you try and explain what you found - and where? [16:25] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host81-132-218-75.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:26] since make doesn't create any libs i don't see it as a bug [16:26] edman007: are you trying to compile something on a multilib system? [16:26] alienBOB, he was compiling FF and it did not see lib64 [16:26] http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#multilib edman007 and lotec [16:27] alienBOB, long story short, make compiles in a library search path for the case when make itself searches for libraries, that search path is in part derived from the --libdir= flag passed to makes configure script, the slackbuild never sets it so slackware64 does not include /usr/lib64 in the 64-bit version of make as a search path [16:27] can all software be re-compiled to work on a 64-bit system? [16:27] dustybin: certainly [16:27] so why do people require a multi lib system? [16:27] How do you think slackware64 is built? [16:27] psych0_ (~virus@187.2.67.94) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:27] dustybin: closed source stuff for example? [16:27] dustybin: closed-source [16:27] ohh [16:27] Multilib systems are for 32-bit binary-only programs [16:27] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] I.e. commercial stuff [16:27] right ok [16:27] like: playing Quake 4 on a 64 bit system [16:28] alienBOB: also, you can see 'string $(which make) | grep usr' (only 5 lines), which shows the hard-coding [16:28] alienBOB, so the make.Slackbuild just needs a --libdir=/usr/lib$LIBDIRSUFFIX added to it [16:28] I had never seen anything which used that however (and I've seen *many* things) [16:28] just like all the other slackbuilds [16:28] make is not a linker so why does it need to know those things? [16:28] edman007: OK. Now that is a good bug report to send to volkerdi at slackware.com [16:28] wow google calls free [16:28] will there be a 128-bit CPU one day? [16:28] WildWizard: ask the firefox guys who made the build system? [16:28] ok [16:29] YAY edamn007, [16:29] sending [16:29] dustybin: yes, actually there are already such CPUs -> wikipedia [16:29] Then we'll see if it is valid [16:29] Action: lotec cheeers for edman007 :D [16:29] wonder how long it'll be for that to start charging for use [16:29] nix_chix0r: next monday [16:29] well they said it's free for the u.s to landlines and mobiles [16:29] they really stripped down teh slckware page, only 2 address displayed [16:31] frk (~jcn@189.58.216.121.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:33] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:33] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:36] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [16:37] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [16:37] slackerpete (~slackerpe@213.122.216.14) joined ##slackware. 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[17:08] and then i have to install word just to read a line of text [17:08] openoffice [17:08] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:08] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:09] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:09] very similar idea [17:10] http://www.myrants.org/why-i-hate-wordprocessors.doc [17:10] .doc? rah :P [17:10] nice! [17:10] dam i cant open .doc [17:10] rissy (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Reav_ (~Sarge@h3f04.n1.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [17:12] dustybin: SBo -> catdoc -> win [17:12] oh, good to know [17:13] bitlord_ (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [17:13] theres also antiword but catdoc does xls too :) [17:15] sm0k3 (~chatzilla@host123-21-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.17/2009062414] [17:18] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [17:20] sahko: tried catdoc on an xls spreadsheet with 32k columns? :P [17:20] dexom (dexom@p5B0EFBC0.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [17:21] i tried it once on some xls, dont know exactly what, but wasnt perfect [17:21] nix_chix0r: hey [17:24] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@99.18.24.195) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Nick change: bitlord_ -> bitlord [17:26] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [17:32] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:33] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [17:36] Jeddeb (~Jeddeb@modemcable109.239-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[17:55] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [17:55] I get several segfault when working with tty and slackpkg ... [17:56] hey people :) [17:56] that one isn't either [17:56] oh fer two [17:56] also on xfce start I sometimes get that as well. Windowsxp env. is fine. Can be current branch so buggy ? [17:56] 0 for 3 [17:57] 84XAAVCFK (~meler@adsl-68-127-116-156.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] 36DAAG4IR (~meler@adsl-68-127-116-156.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] paul424: it is understood that the -current branch is not considered ready for release [17:57] hello botnet? [17:57] but to cause segfaults ? [17:57] BMEr (~bruno@187.112.186.111) joined ##slackware. [17:58] paul424: if you aren't willing to debug issues on your own, install the latest release: 13.1 [17:58] cool names. [17:58] lol [17:59] ut: what you mean? [17:59] are they turing complete, i wonder [17:59] Does anyone know any good ActiveSync alternative for linux? [17:59] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [17:59] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [18:00] 36DAAG4IR and 84XAAVCFK, who're coming from the same host [18:00] ut: oh, wasn't paying attention...i agree with mancha on that [18:00] maybe they were headed for some C&C channel and got lost? [18:01] Darlei (~yo@85-197-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:01] ut: or maybe preparing for a flood attack [18:01] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:01] oh. that's less fun. [18:01] ut: they won't get far... [18:01] Action: paul424 pours vodka in from of 36DAAG4IR and 84XAAVCFK. 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[18:18] I bought a notebook, installed slackware on it. However, when I boot, the screen goes blank. A webpage I found while researching the issue said compiling a newer kernel than 2.6.33.4 should fix the problem (KMS bug fixed) [18:19] I compiled 2.6.35.3 and the problem persists. Has anybody experienced the same issue? [18:19] try hitting ctrl alt and backspace [18:19] if you have an i8 something you can try disabling kms [18:19] gnoel, do you get nomodeset issue ? [18:20] i believe so. If i pass nomodeset, i can boot in text mode [18:20] but i cannot use X [18:20] hmmmmm [18:20] i915.modeset=0 or summit [18:20] I just dont know where to go from here [18:20] I know im not a support person here but it sounds like an xconf issue [18:20] that sounds like graphics imo.. eg for radeon you might need to set nomodeset.radeon=0 [18:21] mancha: i'll try that [18:21] mancha: what's summit? [18:21] Something [18:21] :p [18:21] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:21] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [18:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:22] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:23] so does kms not work at all with intel video card? [18:23] Intel? Hmmmmmmm [18:23] gnoel: it works on mine [18:24] i have a hp pavilion dm4 [18:24] Ah, midi controller+jack+fluidsynth finally works :) MUCH less latency than windows too [18:24] what Model do you have ananke? [18:24] how about you, ananke? [18:24] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) [18:24] gnoel, do you have a card that starts with an 8? [18:24] booting now [18:24] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:24] i love my lolfailtop ^^ [18:25] trying to get a dualboot with slax though [18:26] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:26] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:26] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [18:27] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:27] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:27] model number? [18:27] setting 915.modeset=0 let's me boot in text but i cannot start X [18:27] mancha: model of? [18:27] guess [18:28] video card [18:28] graphics [18:28] lol [18:28] walking_on_water (ad4d7598@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.117.152) left ##slackware. [18:28] gonna reboot to try this configuration [18:28] brb [18:28] anyways, if it is the intel 83x and family, they are known to not work with recent kms kernels [18:28] Kii-kun (~ciaran.ow@92.1.153.196) left irc: [18:28] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [18:28] intel dropped support for older hardware [18:28] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:29] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [18:29] i just bought the laptop a week ago [18:29] Intel(R) HD Graphics [HDMI, VGA] [18:29] i want model number [18:29] looking [18:29] meaning it better fucking have things like 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 in it [18:29] gnoel: was the first output the entire line from lspci? [18:30] yes [18:30] mbait (~mbait@109-109-213-117-xdsl.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:30] gnoel: it's not, considering you didn't paste the actual ID [18:30] lspci -v [18:30] hi there! What is the official sound daemon in Slackware since 13.0 ? [18:31] i have to type the whole thing manually. please bear with me. [18:32] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) [18:33] model is ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5450 Graphics (switchable) with 512 MB dedicated [18:33] eh? [18:33] heh [18:34] houston, we have a problem [18:34] i know i do [18:34] lol [18:34] any suggestion for my question? [18:34] your graphics card has multiple personality disorder, refer to the latest DSM [18:35] DSM? [18:35] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders [18:35] http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ [18:35] Nick change: free|bird -> fire|bird [18:35] oh, I see.. I had the same on my former Thinkpad T410.. dual gfx cards.. You can deactivate kms for radeon as well. [18:36] linXea: how? [18:36] mbait (mbait@109-109-213-117-xdsl.vntc.ru) left ##slackware. [18:36] nesv (~nick@CPE00222d67cb11-CM00222d67cb0d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:36] radeon.modeset=0 [18:37] ^^ exactly [18:37] mancha: ty [18:37] so, kms is not supported for my card? [18:37] np [18:37] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-106-223.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:38] darkrho (~rolando@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [18:39] i still don't kniow what your setup is, but the hd 5450 (codename evergreen) is supported by the foss radeon driver. not sure what was the first kernel to support it though [18:39] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:39] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:40] Nick change: ilker_ -> ilker [18:40] mpa_ (~mpa@cpc1-live12-0-0-cust178.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:40] ilker (~ilker@88.236.158.103) left irc: Changing host [18:40] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) joined ##slackware. [18:41] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:42] Kii-kun (~ciaran.ow@92.1.153.196) joined ##slackware. [18:42] epic fail [18:42] ^^ [18:42] mpa_ (~mpa@cpc1-live12-0-0-cust178.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:43] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [18:45] Hello everyone. [18:45] hey [18:45] How are your days going? [18:45] Confusing, depressive, etc [18:45] you? [18:46] gnoel, dated, but this suggests it was planned for 2.6.34: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0Ng [18:46] Reav_ (~Sarge@h3f04.n1.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:46] Yikes! Oh, my day's going pretty well. It's the first full day off from work that I've had in an exceptionally long time. Just sitting around, watching Mad Men and enjoying a rum and ginger ale. [18:46] you'll have to do some digging around to see when in that tree if made it in. also, you'll need a newer ddx. [18:46] mancha: ty [18:47] so i disable kms, i need to run xorgsetup to be able to run X? [18:48] Well, I'm installing slax with DOS onto a seperate partition onto this laptop, because i want a light slackware for my laptop [18:48] So I can save power :) [18:48] Nice! What are the specs on this laptop? I take it it's older as you can install DOS on it? [18:49] not that old [18:50] hmmm [18:50] let me load darkengine [18:50] "gnoel: i have to type the whole thing manually." thats the easiest way of typing. :) [18:50] pupit: i meant i cant copy/paste. [18:50] Nesv I just took apart a DOS 6.22 boot CD I made [18:50] and copied the files to the HDD [18:51] :) [18:51] gnoel: i know what you meant... ;) [18:51] ;) [18:51] Kii-kun: Nice, I still have some original 3.5"-floppy install media. [18:51] same [18:51] OS: Windows XP Professional SP3 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Celeron M,  1.50 GHz, 1024 KB Video: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M Series (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: Conexant AMC Audio Memory: Used: 356/447MB Uptime: 19m 29s HD Space: Free: 566.65 GB/953.92 GB Connection: Atheros AR5005G Wireless Network Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 54.0 Mbps (Rec: 29.67MB [18:51] Sent: 1.13MB) [18:51] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.11/20100701023340] [18:52] o.o [18:52] 953GB?! [18:52] wt- [18:52] Hard Drives: [C:] 4.98/18.62 GB [E:SLAX] 3.78/4.00 GB [F:MONOLITH] 278.94/465.65 GB [G:] 26815615866745077000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.00/2.00 GB [18:52] epic fail [18:52] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-160-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:52] xD [18:52] epic paste [18:53] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [18:53] pupit it's darkengine for mirc [18:53] Action: Kii-kun is using DarkEngine Professional 4.0 beta#15 - www.darkengine.net [18:53] :p [18:54] thats more like: its darkengine's fault! :P [18:55] npe [18:55] *nope [18:55] corrupted partition [18:55] Action: Kii-kun opens diskmgmt.msc [18:55] btw [18:55] My DOS Startup script [18:55] @echo off [18:55] MSCDEX.EXE /D:banana /L:R [18:55] Channel flood from Kii-kun -- kicking [18:55] ECHO Do you want to start slax? Press any key to continue or press CTRL+C to cancel [18:55] ECHO. [18:55] PAUSE [18:55] Kii-kun kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:55] people still run mIRC with scripts? [18:55] lol [18:56] Kii-kun (~ciaran.ow@92.1.153.196) joined ##slackware. [18:56] waited for that.. [18:56] epic fail [18:56] xD [18:56] paste it again.. [18:56] Line by line [18:56] :p [18:56] @echo off [18:56] MSCDEX.EXE /D:banana /L:R [18:56] uhm [18:56] LOL [18:56] hahahahahahha [18:56] ECHO Do you want to start slax? Press any key to continue or press CTRL+C to cancel [18:56] ECHO. [18:56] how about using a smegging pastebin [18:56] PAUSE [18:57] C:\Boot\slax.bat [18:57] there [18:57] BP{k}: no no, this is line by line :D [18:57] :) [18:57] BP{k} there is hardly anything in it so lol [18:57] anyway [18:57] Ima try that :D [18:57] Action: Kii-kun saves the autoexec.bat [18:57] Kii-kun: so you're dual booting slax + windows? [18:57] yup [18:58] using NTLDR [18:58] :p [18:58] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Action: BP{k} wonders why this conversation is thus taking place in a *slackware* channel. [18:58] ok [18:58] well [18:58] Slax is a live version of slackware [18:58] lol [18:58] Kii-kun: no, it really is not. [18:58] Kii-kun: you better use pastebin, thats the way txt is handled here, ok? and [18:58] ok :p [18:58] anyway [18:58] brb [18:58] Channel flood from Kii-kun -- kicking [18:58] gonna reboot [18:58] Kii-kun kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:59] Kii-kun (~ciaran.ow@92.1.153.196) joined ##slackware. [18:59] Epic fail again XD [18:59] Kii-kun (~ciaran.ow@92.1.153.196) left irc: [18:59] how did he end up here!? [18:59] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:00] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.208.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:00] because most people strangely think "based on" might mean "is the same as"? or something among those lines. [19:00] pastebin. [19:00] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:00] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:01] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.212.71) joined ##slackware. [19:01] im tired of the word "epic fail" its like a lingual disease [19:01] fail. [19:02] people cannot express themselves properly [19:03] pupit: I agree - a lingual plague, if you will. [19:03] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-25.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:03] nesv: totally [19:05] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-217.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [19:06] davimint (~david@c-76-123-144-159.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [19:12] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] BMEr (~bruno@187.112.186.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:13] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [19:14] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:16] install ubunta today (no rocks please) anyway it uses a swap file instead of partition. I duplicated that idea on a new install of slackware after I deleted ubunta. My question is there some reason for having a special partition for swap? [19:20] less overhead. [19:20] davimint: Do you mean Ubuntu? If so, I am fairly certain Ubuntu still uses a swap partition, instead, it just parks it in a logical partition as opposed to a primary partition. [19:25] BMEr_ (~bruno@187.112.137.134) joined ##slackware. [19:25] do you use one ssh key per-machine or share your private ssh key across all your machines? [19:26] darkrho: for what scenario? [19:27] personal ssh key desktop+laptop [19:27] nesv: s/ubunta/Ubuntu , I may have been mistaken but it was something to do on Slackware today. [19:27] so 'all' meaning '2' machines. a single key pair will suffice just fine [19:27] darkrho: I use unique keys between work and home. [19:28] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:28] ok, thanks [19:28] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Mind you though, work has one private/public keypair, and home has another. [19:28] yep. same here. [19:28] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:32] damn, is it safe to upgrade just glibc? [19:32] uhmm, what? [19:32] I installed vim from -current (in 13.0) and got vim: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by vim) [19:32] darkrho, no. [19:33] darkrho: you stick with a given release, be it stable or -current. you don't mix and match [19:33] ever [19:33] so, is it safe to go from 13.0 to -current with slackpkg upgrade-all? [19:34] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:34] now you're reading into something that wasn't said [19:34] 'safe' is to run stable tree. that's why it's marked as stable, and not -current [19:34] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [19:35] darhrho: Just from my own experience, I have never successfully been able to upgrade Slackware to the next version (stable or -current) using slackpkg. [19:35] darkrho: * [19:36] ok, I'll reinstall my old vim and go to 13.1 later [19:36] I just upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1 today, following the instructions in UPGRADE.TXT on the ISO. [19:37] at least vi still working :) [19:37] nesv, darkrho I'll take this opportunity to say that the ONLY time i've ever had problems upgrading was when slackpkg upgraded itself and forgot what it was doing halfway through. You should probably blacklist it and handle upgrading it manually. [19:38] Furthermore, it's not that hard of a procedure - it just involves some waiting time. If you have the 13.1 ISO on your hard drive, just mount it and do it from there: "mount -t iso9660 -o loop *slackware*.iso /mnt" [19:39] davimint (~david@c-76-123-144-159.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:39] I will upgrade over network, as far I know, slackpkg downloads all packages first and then install them [19:39] hiptobecubic: What do you mean "forgot what it was doing halfway through"? Could you explain this further? [19:41] nesv, it updates itself and the package list does not seem to persist, thus all packages updated after slackpkg fail because. [19:42] you have to run slackpkg update after upgrading slackpkg, but it doesn't. it just tries to plow through and fails [19:42] I like slackware simplicity, years ago I've got a corrupt installer and I had to finish the installation manually by doing installpkg *.tgz [19:44] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:47] zero7 (~crazy@86.36.49.1) joined ##slackware. [19:47] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.96) joined ##slackware. [19:48] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:51] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] hiptobecubic: Ah, okay. :) [19:59] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:59] it is too quiet tonight [20:01] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@99.18.24.195) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:02] AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [20:02] mfillpot, CAN YOU HEAR ME?!?! [20:02] edman007, no [20:02] damn [20:02] i tried [20:02] I hear a faint scream [20:03] edman007, you need to change your carrier, then I may hear you [20:03] you act like i want an audience... [20:03] lol [20:04] is anyone in here using alienbob's kde4.5 packages on current? [20:04] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:04] mfillpot: No, sorry. I run Xfce4. [20:05] Action: mfillpot is just making conversation to keep the slackers awake [20:06] I am liking the tiling feature that was added to kde4, but the graphics on the effects has gotten slow [20:06] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [20:07] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A2CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:07] hmm mfillpot what graphics card are you using ? [20:08] deco, on my laptop the intel mobile 4 embedded and on my dekstop I am using an nvidia 8400GS [20:09] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:09] mfillpot: cool, desktop here nvidia geforce gts 250 [20:10] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:10] deco, the lag is greater on the laptop, but it is still felt on the desktop [20:10] v4nelle (~van@79.107.244.196) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:10] mfillpot, I am using -current + 4.5 in a VM, haven't tested effects at all with it being in a VM, but on 4.5 on another distro, effects became unusable, extremely slow. [20:11] deco, I am hoping it is just an issue with using an early build [20:11] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: ...reboot time [20:12] mfillpot: oh maybe , i'm using the stock 13.1 kde , runs smooth [20:12] fire|bird, the effects are still msotly stable, the only bug I noticed was when using opengl on the laptop the "show windows" function gave me white boxes [20:13] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:13] deco, the official slackware builds always run nice, I can't wait to see how the slackware group's official packages perform [20:13] mfillpot, I had to disable them completely here, everything was slow, I do have -current + 4.5 on a spare drive as well, but haven't done much with it yet, so no idea how effects will run there. [20:13] yeah [20:14] I still have to give alienbob credit for his patience on making the packages for testing [20:15] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [20:15] the system settings menu items have definitely been moved around, it is more logical, but a little hard to find things [20:15] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:16] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:17] mfillpot: vlc is great on kde being qt and all [20:19] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A632.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:19] deco, I haven't used vlc since I was using packages from others, but I probably should get alienbob's build [20:19] yeah it's really nice [20:20] i'm using amarok for music and vlc for videos [20:20] i also like mplayer but i wanted a good gui app too [20:21] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [20:21] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] I really don't do anything with videos so it has been off of my system for a while [20:22] smplayer is a great frontend for mplayer [20:23] Seconded on smplayer [20:23] xine ftw :-) [20:24] I use xine when I need to watch a video [20:24] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:25] On a note about all of the apps, in the last couple years I have moved to only using slackbuilds, if there is no slackbuild then I don't use an app [20:25] or just create one:) [20:26] and in a few cases I have done the builds myself [20:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:26] most everything I need is already there [20:27] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:29] BMEr_ (~bruno@187.112.137.134) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:31] Have a good night everyone. The missus is here. [20:31] :) [20:32] nesv (~nick@CPE00222d67cb11-CM00222d67cb0d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:32] Has anyone else in here been working with the source for wolfenstein et? [20:33] edthix (~ed@115.133.244.30) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:33] oh smplayer totally forgot about that one [20:34] gonna try it out [20:34] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:34] deco: how you doing? [20:34] hey nyRednek , okay just messing around with kde, and you ? [20:35] deco: watching my wife and hanging out on irc [20:35] gnoel (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:35] cool [20:35] good night all, [20:35] night [20:35] heviarti (~ptpChat2@108.112.203.61) joined ##slackware. [20:35] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: And Punt [20:36] hmm just noticed smplayer @ SBo is still at 0.6.8 btw, while 0.6.9 has been out for a long while [20:37] oh [20:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:41] so, anyone seen motoko-chan or know where she went? [20:41] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:41] hitest (~George_Ni@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [20:42] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-123-209.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:42] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [20:43] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[20:58] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:59] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:59] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [20:59] mmm. [21:01] well, 10 doesn't work worth a crap on a socket 775. [21:04] freaky stuff occurs. [21:06] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [21:06] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@89.123.172.68) joined ##slackware. [21:07] ok.. everyone's dead. [21:11] heviarti (~ptpChat2@108.112.203.61) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:15] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-123-209.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:15] zero7 (~crazy@86.36.49.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:15] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:20] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:20] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-200.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:44] rissy (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: rissy [21:46] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:49] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:52] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@89.123.172.68) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:52] can someone tell me what package gives the sys/capabilities.h ? seems that i'm missing this file/package [21:53] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@89.123.158.92) joined ##slackware. [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6B57D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] goj|afk (~goj@p5488F9CD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] stinky (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) joined ##slackware. [21:56] psych0_ (~virus@187.2.67.94) joined ##slackware. [21:57] goj (~goj@p5488FC0D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:57] shadowx (~Slack@singularity.darknetx.eu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:57] Nick change: goj|afk -> goj [21:57] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6B57D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:05] nogo2 (~lasai@122-124-130-50.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] my friend asked me if linux was based on windows. [22:05] the code. [22:06] and told me windows is coded all in xml [22:06] who cares? [22:06] hehehe, let me guess... he is a windows administrator, right :) [22:06] i'm not sure [22:06] higuita, no.. he's just a gamer [22:07] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.174) joined ##slackware. [22:07] let window go in its own ways [22:07] close enough, both are clueless ;) [22:07] now that are people online, let me try again: [22:07] can someone tell me what package gives the sys/capabilities.h ? seems that i'm missing this file/package [22:08] i dont see that in stock packages [22:09] ok... so its not just my setup... thanks [22:09] what package is it should belong to? [22:10] shadowx (~lnx@singularity.darknetx.eu) joined ##slackware. [22:10] from what i searched, libpcap should have it... but isnt there... linux/capabilities.h is from the kernel headers, but isnt the sameone [22:11] my kernel headers have no capabilities.h [22:13] does it matter? [22:13] humm... so o might have hardlink it from a older libpcap install... lets check :) [22:13] very much so, to me [22:14] i am especially interested in what my kernel headers contain and don't contain. [22:14] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@89.123.158.92) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:15] do you mean libcap? [22:16] libpcap is that tcpdump thingamagiga [22:16] WarrenSH (~lookitsme@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] and windump [22:17] ah, you are right, but it is not capabilities.h, it is capability.h. and yes, libcap (not libpcap) provides it [22:17] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:17] spulling iz importent [22:17] libcap? [22:19] nogo2: werent you banned? [22:20] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Laughing on the outside while you're dying on the inside. [22:20] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:21] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] jcn` (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [22:22] banned for what? [22:22] idiocy i guess [22:23] maybe rasism too [22:24] WarrenSH (~lookitsme@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [22:24] ... [22:24] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:25] sahko, /lastlog +b indicates yes, he was. [22:25] in soviet china, everything is racism [22:25] can kick-n'-ban trains people to love china? [22:25] hahaha [22:28] hitest (George_Ni@69.176.189.210) left ##slackware. [22:28] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:30] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:33] nogo2 (lasai@122-124-130-50.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [22:34] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [22:42] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:46] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:52] heya all [22:52] hey nyRednek [22:54] soviet china? wtf? wasn't it soviet russia? [22:54] shonudo: how goes it? [22:54] it goes... and yeah, that soviet china thing made me wonder if there had been a horrible collision (in a time warp) [22:55] shonudo: yeah [22:56] hating opera's perpetual beta-ness, for what it's worth; they always seem to change something between versions that doesn't need changing [22:56] shonudo: yeah [22:59] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A632.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:00] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:02] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [23:12] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [23:12] second (~second@97-81-251-38.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:12] hi [23:12] how is slackware going ? [23:12] does slackware have pam yet ? [23:12] PAM [23:13] not officially, but you can isntall it if you like [23:13] no it has connie [23:13] second: no, why? [23:13] -.- [23:13] heh [23:13] slackware needs pam [23:13] imo [23:13] why [23:13] I have to recompile shadow etc [23:14] pam for auth etc [23:14] it has plugins [23:14] like pam_encfs [23:14] or ecryptfs [23:14] or ... sumthing :P [23:14] and [23:14] second (second@97-81-251-38.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left ##slackware ("just checking on pam"). [23:14] ? [23:14] second (~second@97-81-251-38.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:14] ? [23:14] and why do you need it for? [23:14] I had needed it a while back [23:15] I wanted encrypted home directories [23:15] second: then install it [23:15] danc3: like I said I'd have to recompile shadow etc just to install it [23:15] use lucks or even truecrypt [23:15] I use luks :P [23:15] second: whatever, better get started [23:15] which is why i don't need encfs [23:15] danc3: i'm using archlinux now :P [23:15] same amount of control [23:16] ok, that channel is over there ---------> Later. [23:16] thanks for you time though [23:16] great, then all of us are happy [23:16] run along troll [23:16] danc3: I like slackware and what it stands for [23:16] I just was checking on pam [23:16] its been a while [23:16] ok now you know. Later. [23:16] danc3: <_< [23:16] you mad ? [23:17] run along, troll [23:17] -.- [23:17] how am I a troll ? [23:17] wow, slackware has become a very very sensitive channel since I started running it and joining here. [23:17] hi briareus [23:17] yeah I can see that -.- [23:18] i used to use slackware but i don't have time to build everything from source (compiling) so I switch to archlinux [23:18] where I can choose whats build from source [23:18] still like slack though [23:19] second: to be fair to the channel, I've run arch and slack, and there is no real difference in time such as you describe. [23:20] so you can choose blob or build. big deal. I can here too. [23:20] :) [23:20] :) [23:20] shall we dance? [23:20] briareus: gnome and openoffice were annoying [23:20] Action: second dances with briareus [23:21] openoffice is fine. gnome I have no idea, I don't run it [23:22] I don't run it anymore either :P [23:22] but when I did I couldn't get it built [23:22] I got it running but it had bugs / didn't work right [23:23] you know, there's always the blob install of that [23:23] second (~second@97-81-251-38.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:23] danc3: he does offer a whiff of troll doesn't he? [23:24] briareus (briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left ##slackware. [23:26] second (second@unaffiliated/sec0nd) joined ##slackware. [23:26] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:28] inconnu (~user@99.232.78.156) joined ##slackware. [23:29] Hrm, someone in my neck of the woods. [23:30] I wonder who that was. [23:31] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:32] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] rworkman, was your alter ego [23:33] I guess so [23:33] take your meds\ [23:33] did you see that castro article? lol [23:33] That's how I interact with normal people - my other personality is stupid. [23:34] Hang on, let me change personalities so I can read it ;-) [23:35] Seriously, I saw, but haven't read yet. Once all the household/child/routine crap is done around here every night, I have precious little time to accomplish useful stuff, so I try to use it for that. That's why I'm not on IRC as much either. [23:35] Well, I'm on, but I don't hang out here much - I end up wasting too much time here :/ [23:35] ah [23:35] it's just castro saying, it was such a coinkidink that bin laden would release a sex tape, err a tape every time after bush came on the air to talk about shit [23:35] lol [23:35] and he said whoever played bin laden was a 'bad actor' [23:36] ah [23:36] he's thinking what half the population is [23:39] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:45] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:57] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-200.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [23:58] inconnu (~user@99.232.78.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:59] inconnu` (~user@CPE00222d1e137d-CM00222d1e1379.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Mon Aug 30 2010