[00:01] KaMii: you may be able to use the PILOTPORT environment variable...but I'm not sure if that would work in whatever version you have [00:03] never heard of it [00:04] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:04] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:04] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:12] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.1.75.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:12] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [00:15] i has swedish muffin >< [00:15] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:15] jdetring (~jay@adsl-70-234-161-108.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:16] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*qwe@79.124.165.* expired. [00:16] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*qwe@79.124.165.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:18] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-24.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:18] I am afraid to even google that ... :o [00:19] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-24.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:19] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-20-195-210.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] jerichowasahoax (~nick@unaffiliated/jerichowasahoax) joined ##slackware. [00:20] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:20] BP{k}: my gf brought me a chocolate muffin back from sweden.. it wasnt a euphemism (sp?) =P [00:22] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-81-235.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:26] whats a swedish muffin? [00:26] a chocolate muffin from sweden? [00:26] we eat cinnamon rolls you know [00:27] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:41] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:42] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:42] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:42] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:43] byteframe, wow work on wine ? [00:43] jeev, Surely that pile of slot would have to. [00:43] slop* [00:43] But yes, And I've done it for sibling. [00:44] liar [00:44] appdb.winehq.org silly [00:44] you're an addict [00:44] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-20-195-210.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:44] will it work remotely you think ? [00:46] No. Wow must be played with laptop, in your closet. [00:48] alisonken1lap2 (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. 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[00:56] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [00:56] jeev: it used to very well, apparently some schedulers need to be changed (kernel recompile) to get it working nowadays [00:58] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-90.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:58] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-226.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:58] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:58] not tested for years though [01:03] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:07] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:07] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-90.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: arr! [01:09] phrag, i heard you play it at work [01:12] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [01:12] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:13] jeev: lies! 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[02:32] you just got a six hour break riza [02:33] surely computers haven't absorbed your life to such an extent you can't find something else to enjoy your time with. [02:33] >:( [02:33] It has! [02:33] I could've just deleted the partition and reinstall everything. [02:33] Would've been much faster. [02:34] tar it off to a spare drive next time, recreate the partition, tar it back. or you could rsync it too. [02:35] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-234.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:35] Ya. [02:35] Oh well, too late. [02:35] Okay. [02:36] http://pastebin.com/8mPLMi5b [02:36] This is what I have now. [02:36] I don't even have swap space. [02:37] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:37] Since I don't... sleep or hibernate.. [02:39] Techniq (~Techniq@adsl-75-17-113-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:40] Also does anyone know why I have 2.46MiB that can't seem to be moved..? [02:41] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] jerichowasahoax (~nick@unaffiliated/jerichowasahoax) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:42] Action: riza strips down and dances. [02:42] swap space is always good [02:43] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:43] True but I'm not waiting another 6 hours. [02:45] Action: slava_dp suggests a separate partition for /home too [02:45] lol [02:45] recently on windows xp, i had swap off and was downloading a 1.4GB file in firefox with 2GB of ram. My download failed [02:45] firefox on windows is so stoopid. [02:46] Ya. [02:46] All that. Not doing it. [02:46] tank-man, Windows do not use swap. [02:46] They use paging and it works differently than swap, even if it's the same in concept. [02:46] paging... [02:46] it's similar [02:46] riza: windows uses a hidden swap file for paging [02:46] The reason why I mention this is because you guys correct me when I say folder and you folks say "directory!" [02:46] they just don't call it a swap file [02:46] lol [02:48] What's tmpfs for? [02:48] ram based temporary filesystem for things that need faster access than a physical drive [02:48] Hm.. Thank you. [02:49] For a moment I thought that was the swap. [02:49] also can be used as shared memory [02:49] I shouldn't worry about the 2.46 or so MiB. So that's out of the head. Stupid OCD. Maybe I'll do the swap one day but not now. >:( Takes forever. [02:50] Is it possible to split `screen` vertically? ctrl-a | doesnt seem to work. [02:51] Reticenti, the latest screen, git version yet iirc, can do that, so you'd need to upgrade screen if you wanted to split vertically. [02:52] fire|bird: ah, so i'm guessing slack's 13.0 build doesnt have it? [02:52] Reticenti, no [02:53] and probably not slack13.1 either [02:53] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:53] Reticenti, but you can split vim vertically inside screen ;-) [02:54] :vplit [02:54] :vsplit [02:54] slava_dp: yeah :) it just have a wide monitor, and vertical splits are better [02:54] try tmux then. people seem to like tmux these days. although I still use screen, cause it's everywhere. [02:55] Gah. [02:55] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [02:55] meh [02:56] slava_dp, or just update screen. ;) [02:56] tmux requires me to install it, and I've gotten used to screen [02:56] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:57] Reticenti, doesn't take too long to install if you went that route: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/tmux/ [02:57] sbopkg -i tmux [02:57] yup [02:57] Gah... [02:57] yeah yeah yeah [02:58] then make a tmux.conf and start using it. [02:58] thats like an entire 14 characters to type! [02:58] Playing mp3s from My Book, eh.. [02:58] 15 [02:58] you have to press Return too. [02:58] fffu [02:58] lol [02:58] you're right, too many [02:58] can tmux autostart programs? (like irssi?) [02:59] rtfm and find out. :P [02:59] Action: fire|bird ducks [02:59] Action: slava_dp chickens [02:59] Action: fire|bird turkeys [02:59] Action: riza dances. [02:59] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. [02:59] \o/ [02:59] --o [02:59] o-- [02:59] --o [02:59] --o-- [03:00] oo-oo [03:00] ---o-- [03:00] o-o-o-o [03:00] -o-o-o- [03:01] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D5DA9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Action: riza is lost. [03:02] Action: fire|bird hands riza a gps [03:02] Action: riza is even more lost. [03:03] Action: fire|bird gets a team together and looks for riza [03:04] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-234.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:05] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:05] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:08] Action: riza continues to walk away. [03:08] >.> [03:08] So much space.... [03:08] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:09] Sigh... [03:13] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] Why are there konqueror processes running when I don't have any konqueror windows opened? [03:19] they are silently konquering your computer [03:19] ;_; [03:24] Everybody with a heart votes love. [03:26] brorjonas (~brorjonas@c213-100-27-253.swipnet.se) joined ##slackware. [03:27] brorjonas (brorjonas@c213-100-27-253.swipnet.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:28] Action: adaptr wonders if anybody got the Fluke reference [03:30] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:30] x) [03:31] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:31] Risotto is one of my favourite albums [03:31] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl13-186-245.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: [03:32] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:32] Strange, I have most if not all of the Fluke albums and have never heard of Risotto. [03:33] I like Puppy. [03:33] Always makes me get up and dance. [03:33] That quote is from Qbsurd - the first track from Risotto [03:33] *Absurd..bleh [03:33] yeah Puppy rocks [03:34] ;D Yes! [03:34] mm I'll have to hit the p2p sometime, I only have puppy as a single pre-release 1-hour track... [03:35] unless that is the final format :) [03:35] I think I discovered Fluke from this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V24TaUJSDe0 [03:35] Golden Path. [03:35] I was crying to this song and going "must have more!!" [03:35] Big bird spreads the word ;) [03:36] :D [03:36] Check this out, I found this a while ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IWlF-Vx7cE [03:39] Action: riza dances. [03:40] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [03:41] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [03:42] archceza1 (1000@acwj146.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:42] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] g4tsu-cloud (~g4tsu@87-98-187-130.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:45] archcezar (1000@afy175.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:46] >.> [03:46] <.< [03:47] v.v [03:47] ^.^ [03:47] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:47] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:47] /\./\ [03:47] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:48] \/.\/ [03:48] (o).(o) [03:48] (0).(0) [03:50] Are those.e.. [03:50] Are those boobs? [03:50] depends [03:51] It's the goatse guy in a relaxed state after having his cheeks tattooed with "o" on each of them [03:51] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [03:51] haha [03:51] :-) [03:52] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] lol [03:54] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:54] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:55] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [03:55] stormtracknole: ola [03:56] rworkman: missing the h there. :-) [03:57] Not in pt_BR :) [03:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Que? [03:58] Brazilian Portugese [03:58] Oh...I knew you knew that you were doing. Heh.. [03:59] Does anyone know how to create motivationals? [04:00] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.74.230) joined ##slackware. [04:00] g4tsu-cloud-st (~g4tsu@87-98-187-130.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [04:00] g4tsu-cloud-st (~g4tsu@87-98-187-130.kimsufi.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:00] g4tsu-cloud (~g4tsu@87-98-187-130.kimsufi.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:00] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: hardware change time >_> [04:01] g4tsu-cloud (~g4tsu@87-98-187-130.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [04:01] I can do some demotivationals. I hear that I'm good at that. [04:01] novacrust (~Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:01] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.74.230) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:01] Action: slava_dp motivates riza to WORK, WORK, WORK!!!!!!!!!!! [04:02] lol ;_;.. [04:02] novacrust (~Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [04:03] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [04:03] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:03] Defocu_up_away (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [04:03] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:03] Defocu_up_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [04:03] lol [04:03] lol Jeez. [04:03] What if away is his name? [04:04] Nick change: slava_dp -> away [04:04] away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [04:04] Tough shit. [04:04] See? [04:04] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [04:04] haha [04:04] lol [04:04] xD [04:06] Nicce (~Nicke@ip-245-196-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] who is panzer by the way? [04:08] A good friend of mine. [04:08] A good friend of a lot of people. [04:08] He passed recently. [04:09] oh, too bad. [04:09] Yep...... [04:10] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:11] bebabi34 (~bebabi34@151.57.5.222) joined ##slackware. [04:11] bebabi34 (bebabi34@151.57.5.222) left ##slackware. [04:13] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:13] Panzer was a local (to me) guy who had previously had a computer repair shop in Birmingham (about 75 miles from me, in Tuscaloosa), Alabama, USA. [04:13] bebabi34 (~bebabi34@151.57.5.222) joined ##slackware. [04:13] bebabi34 (bebabi34@151.57.5.222) left ##slackware. [04:14] He was a good guy, certainly with faults like everyone else (okay, and maybe some that weren't like everyone else, but still), but he genuinely cared about those he called friends. [04:14] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:17] Indeed! [04:17] rworkman, I have an art coming up for him, dunno if you read about it or anything but I think you'll enjoy it too. [04:17] I think since you knew him do you have any idea what to include in the art or what to draw if you were an artist? [04:18] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:18] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [04:19] riza: I saw that you were going to do that. I think the suggestion you already got was as good as anything I can give [04:19] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:19] I'm not artistic at all :/ [04:20] rworkman is verbally creative though [04:21] Perhaps some word art? [04:21] haha [04:21] g4tsu-cloud (~g4tsu@87-98-187-130.kimsufi.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:22] alienBOB is poking fun at me. [04:22] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [04:22] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) left irc: Excess Flood [04:22] Techniq (~Techniq@adsl-75-17-113-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:25] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [04:26] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:26] lol!! [04:27] Initially I had an idea of the channel host of hardware or slackware give me a photo and then I get the artist to draw him sitting in a chair thinking, and a bubble of top of this host, would be panzer charging into battle in a tank. 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[04:38] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:40] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-37-184.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:42] nvision (~nvision@g225062180.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [04:43] coredumb1 (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [04:44] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:46] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:50] coredumb1 (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:56] Action: slava_dp buys a sandwich for riza [04:56] Is somebody already test this package : http://sourceforge.net/projects/slacke17/files/slacke17/20080504/slacke17-20080504-i486-1jp.tgz/download [04:58] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [04:59] g4tsu, heh, only one way to know. [04:59] Action: riza thanks slava_dp and eats the sandwich. [05:00] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [05:01] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:01] iceheart (~nihao@114.89.39.125) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:01] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:01] g4tsu, better use e17 from slackbuilds.org. [05:02] slava_dp: ok [05:02] coredumb1 (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [05:02] riza: I've no slack at work :/ [05:03] g4tsu, the one on SBo is at least newer, if not better packaged. [05:03] Ok [05:03] Try harder! Close yer' eyes! [05:03] But I've to compile all the e17 components ? [05:04] you can use sbopkg to simplify things a little :) [05:04] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [05:04] but yes, you have to build all of that. [05:05] Ok [05:05] I'll try it :) [05:06] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.181.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:10] tpocra (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:10] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:10] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:11] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] tpocra (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:15] how would I check if rootfs is on mdraid? [05:15] it's for a script, I'm only interested in the exit status [05:15] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:17] Morn [05:17] Morning Zordrak. [05:19] hi Zordrak [05:27] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:27] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:28] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [05:30] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.47) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:30] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:30] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:30] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:31] My. [05:31] OH NO! My leg is numb!!! >< [05:31] Brb. [05:31] how come I have /dev/md0 if I'm not using RAID? [05:32] different question... will linux always assign /dev/sda as the rootfs, or not& [05:32] ? [05:33] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:33] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Yes it will. [05:34] Or it should. [05:34] ah, never mind my questions, there's no reliable way to do what I wanted. [05:34] Of course not! [05:35] I just made a variable of it. [05:40] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [05:41] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:41] john__ (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:42] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:42] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:43] Alright off off I go. [05:43] Sorry I can't help slava_dp, dunno much about what you need. But gl though! Morning comes and you'll get it! [05:43] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [05:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-220.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:44] nvision (~nvision@g225062180.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:45] john__ (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:45] john__ (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:46] slava_dp: /dev/sda is the first scsi drive that linux detects - so it's whichever scsi drive that first gets initialized [05:47] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:50] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:52] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:53] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:54] alisonken1lap: unless udev i-s told otherwise... 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[07:11] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [07:13] :) [07:13] emerge world [07:16] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [07:16] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.2.38) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:16] Action: rapid emerges [07:18] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.183.29) joined ##slackware. [07:18] I almost read that as "raping emerges" [07:19] LOL [07:24] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:28] ehmmm.... someone tell me, what kind of weirdness is this website alias: http://www.slacky.itwww.slackbuilds.org/ ? [07:29] looks very mad to me :) [07:31] who is panzer? [07:32] a member of the slackware community who passed away recently [07:32] bojevnik (~bojevnik@93-103-134-94.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:33] bojevnik (~bojevnik@93-103-134-94.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:14] I am not getting any help now at #python [08:14] but ppl here are nice [08:14] and some do pyhton [08:15] zplinux: well just ask... if someone here does python will answer you [08:15] what does the ** in **dict(( (key, int(value)) for key, value in d.items() )) does? [08:16] akhe (~akhe@87.63.161.86) joined ##slackware. [08:16] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:16] breaks out the dictionary d.items and creates 2 arrays with the key and the value of key [08:16] thnaks ! [08:17] but what does the operator ** signify? [08:17] can't I just dict()? [08:17] zplinux: * is an array... [08:17] it's a carryover from c programming language [08:17] I guess(never read anything about python) [08:17] you can look up * and ** in c and pretty much find out what they mean [08:17] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [08:18] so what is ** an array of pointers to arrays? [08:18] I believe it's someting like that [08:18] hmm [08:18] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:18] in c ** means a bidimensional array [08:19] right [08:19] anyway zplinux, I'd suggest you to read somethiung about arrays [08:19] I know C arrays [08:20] and dont see this fit here [08:20] and about data structures [08:20] in python I mean [08:21] zplinux: I can't help you but alisonken1lap said that "**" creates 2 arrays with the key and the value of key [08:22] thanks [08:22] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.59.169) joined ##slackware. [08:23] rworkman: you awake yet ? [08:24] hi everyone [08:24] hi m3tti [08:24] zplinux (zplinux@213.8.57.217) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:25] python ah. I want to learn it look like ruby and ruby was quite nice as i've seen it [08:26] m3tti: ruby and python are a bit different [08:26] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:27] m3tti: in fact ruby is a scripting language completely object-oriented [08:27] python isn't a scripting language :-P but that's completely object-oriented too... I don't know the differences between these two programming language, so I'd also like if someone enlights me :-) [08:28] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:28] I thought python was a scripting language [08:28] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [08:29] it is [08:29] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:29] but it's a byte-compiled scripting language [08:29] akhe (~akhe@87.63.161.86) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [08:29] mmm didn't know that... [08:29] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:30] alisonken1lap: isn't it like java than? [08:30] no [08:30] Java is JIT-compiled [08:30] no - java is a compiled language [08:30] "Python is often used as a scripting language"(en.wikipedia.org) [08:30] but compiled as bytecode [08:30] you have to compile java before running it through the java binary [08:31] ok [08:31] python will work with the text files without having to precompile the bytecode [08:31] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@h4x0r.gentoo.ltd.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:31] alisonken1lap: like a normal sh script? [08:31] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:31] java is initially compiled into bytecode, which is compiled into machine code before being executed [08:31] lisp is byte compiled [08:32] it will work like a normal sh script - it will save the bytecode compiled file as .pyo - if the time stamp between the .py and .pyo files are different or the .pyo file is missing, it recompiles it on the fly [08:32] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:32] ocaml [08:32] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:32] ocaml can be byte-compiled or compiled for the CPU [08:33] ok thats cool [08:33] nice [08:33] whats about performance [08:33] adrien is the local ocaml wizard [08:33] If he were actually around, that is [08:34] yeah... he's developing a browser in ocaml [08:34] I've found python performance more than adequate after the first run [08:35] alisonken1lap: when it'S compiled on the fly than it would be faster on the second run that's what i would expect. [08:36] hm maybe i should give it a try [08:37] vinic_ (~vinic@p5B3D5DA9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:37] m3tti: it is [08:38] m3tti: correct [08:38] modules are compiled for faster use [08:39] whats about learning python? Do you use books or the documentation? [08:40] online docs help - including the tutorials - as well as playing around [08:40] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:41] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. 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[08:55] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-41-220.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [08:56] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:56] m3tti (~user@p57B7C7A1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] m3tti (~user@p57B7C7A1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:58] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7C7A1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:58] ok playing with xfce [08:59] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7C7A1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:00] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:00] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7C7A1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:03] If you shake it more than 3 times, you're playing with it [09:06] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:07] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.198.200) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:07] omegageek (rooot@69-165-138-51.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:09] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.153.236) joined ##slackware. [09:10] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Hi-dee ho [09:11] lol [09:12] Hey slackers, anyone wanna give me some ideas why a ssh connection to a machine that has 19ms ping times may be slow? [09:13] arfon: whats about the machine. What processor is in there etc [09:13] arfon, I had that too. never found the cause. [09:13] and the box was pretty fast, the network too. [09:14] Well m3tti, it's my desktop. but no one is locally logged in and no X is running [09:14] hrm that strange. And the key length [09:14] but it should be fast enough [09:14] I don't think it's a machin/process problem because local ssh's are fast. [09:14] hrm crazy stuff [09:14] arfon, any wifi involved? [09:15] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:15] A friend last night suggested that it may be because it's trying to do a DNS lookup on my machine but, I can't see how/why. [09:15] might be wifi radio congestion [09:15] No wifi [09:15] it wouldn't be a machine problem [09:15] hardware problem [09:15] Never figured it out slava_dp ? [09:15] a 386 logs in fast with ssh [09:16] actually ssh does do DNS lookups. [09:16] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [09:16] say 40 mhz (remember mhz) 386 will log in fast via ssh [09:16] is that set in the config file? [09:16] ah firefox had problems on my sisters pc to after disabling ipv6 support everything was fine [09:17] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-znuczbdqhmglmxni) joined ##slackware. [09:17] maybe your router doesn't know how to handle ipv6 connections and your pc which wants to remote connect sends ipv6 requests [09:17] arfon, http://www.openssh.org/faq.html#3.3 [09:17] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:18] is there a guide how to boot with a cd and install with ftp? [09:18] Fjorgynn, you just boot and select ftp at the installer prompt. [09:18] Action: arfon I wish we'd all move to IP6 and be done with it [09:19] Fjorgynn, where you select the SOURCE [09:19] yes [09:19] imagine having to type a ipv6 ip manually [09:19] but what should I type in. Last time it didn't work. [09:19] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:19] A global ip address for everyone and no NAT any more! (So all windows boxes instantly die of viruses :D ) [09:20] i hope ipv6 will be everywhere soon. In china it is normal to use ipv6 [09:20] its also normal to lock people up for being poor in china [09:20] only thing thats crap if we've ipv6 no body is anonyme anymore in the net [09:21] lol [09:21] actually thats not funny [09:21] m3tti, you aren't anonymous even now. you provider can trace you. [09:22] only way to be anonymous is to use an ssh tunnel to somewhere far away and surf from there :) [09:22] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:22] yeah thats right [09:23] I wish I had a box in china [09:23] :o [09:23] you dont want to use china as a ssh tunnel [09:23] hey in youtube on the new player you can stop the vid and tap the left arrow until a snake game starts XD [09:23] they have filters [09:23] would I get exported to china, if I did something wrong? [09:24] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:24] rabbitear, like this one? http://tinyurl.com/chinesebox :-) [09:24] yes! [09:24] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:25] thats an awesome box [09:25] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-195.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:25] lol [09:26] how do I start compiz? [09:26] yeah, cool box indeed [09:26] I will use it wisely [09:27] Fjorgynn, does kwin not suit you? [09:27] Fjorgynn, compiz --replace [09:27] slava_dp: I use xfce :p [09:28] you can use kwin with xfce :-) [09:28] xfce has compositing too by the way. [09:28] xfwm4, i mean. [09:29] but no box [09:29] and compiz doesn't work. "found no display" [09:29] as the user, not as root [09:30] yes [09:30] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:30] I do that [09:33] how do I shut of compiz? [09:34] killall compiz? [09:34] No... It won't work [09:34] got no borders now.. [09:34] -.- [09:34] no mouse [09:34] xfwm4 & [09:34] pointer [09:35] ah [09:37] slava_dp, I think I fixed ssh..... [09:37] /etc/ssh/sshd_config add 'UseDNS no' [09:37] arfon, that's one way [09:37] another being add your host to /etc/hosts :) [09:37] now I will activate 3d in vbox [09:40] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:43] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [09:43] Problem with hosts file is that I'm connecting from outside my house across Virgin's network [09:44] IP address is always different [09:44] dyndns [09:46] dyndns gets very upset with you when you update often (I'd have to do it at least 2x per day) [09:46] They kill my first account because my cheap router kept updating [09:48] there's linux clients to dyndns [09:48] stupid 64-bit flash in fullscreen mode does not allow to be killed. [09:48] so I had to kill X to restore my screen. [09:49] i'm happy steve jobs doesn't like flash, I'm not even an apple fan [09:51] Action: arfon HATES flash [09:51] friggin Flash, Java and Javascript. 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[10:19] I hate it when that happens [10:19] Does anyone here use grub? [10:20] <---lilo [10:20] what does everyone like about grub? [10:20] I don't like it. Happy with lilo... [10:20] But I'm trying to get a netbook to do 800x480, the native resolution, in console. [10:21] And someone has a patch to grub that should allow it. [10:21] It's always seemed really slow for me and over complex [10:21] Would be my first time using it. [10:21] Compiling now. [10:21] you can't get that res with lilo? [10:21] Red, I have installed grub in the past over several machines but, it was all automated [10:22] Redb3ard, grub in in slackware, in /extra.... [10:23] and I'm sure you can have that res with lilo, it's just a kernel parameter [10:23] No way that I can figure out how. 915resolution will fix the video bios, but by the time it can run, it's already too late. [10:23] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-87-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:23] This guy has patched 915's code into grub, so that it runs prekernel. [10:23] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone [10:24] Dongdong (~Dongdong@123.117.21.20) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Red, you have googled "framebuffer + resolution + Slackware"? [10:24] theres a reason that grub devs hang out in #bdsm too [10:24] john_dee (~id@93-81-3-247.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [10:24] Is that a new flavor of BSD jg71 ? [10:24] hahaha [10:25] :) [10:25] <-- used FreeBSD for awhile [10:25] arfon, it's an Asus EeePC. There are special implications. [10:26] that accounts for the typo, arfon ;) [10:26] I've been googling on and off on this for two weeks. [10:26] AH!! That damned eeeeeeepc! [10:26] there was a tool that showed you the available console modes. [10:26] can't find it now. [10:27] It's for work. I've turned them into a cellular signal strength tester. Have a little perl script that runs at bootup, displays signal strength. But it's text-only, I wanted something graphical... hence this extra work. [10:27] Redb3ard: try unicorn for CSS [10:28] You gonna get all 'ncurses' on it's butt? [10:29] Yeh, I use perl Curses. [10:29] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] I mean that in all possible meanings of that sentence. [10:30] we know. just dont get caught again. [10:30] God for you! We need more Perl to fight this Python scourge! :) [10:30] God = Good [10:30] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:30] Action: jg71 mutters ... a bag of angels ... [10:30] :) [10:31] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:32] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:32] idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) joined ##slackware. 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[10:38] rworkman Dominian - am0rphis's CTCP spam was an attack on KVirc clients: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2010/q3/106 [10:40] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [10:40] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:40] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:42] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [10:43] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-87-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:43] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:44] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:49] Ouch. It's Gnu grub. [10:49] john_dee (~id@93-81-3-247.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:50] I guess I can't expect it to be simple if it's made by the same team that does Emacs. [10:50] huh? [10:50] question, when i plug my usb pendrive i get a freedesktop DBus access denied error, should i be member from a special group ? in that case, which ? thanks in advance =) [10:50] ?? [10:50] ah [10:51] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [10:51] lain, what flavor Slackware are you running? [10:51] 13.1 with kde desktop =) [10:51] can you mount it from a console? [10:52] yes [10:52] maybe plugdev group? [10:52] but i must be root to mount it [10:52] I don't know then :( [10:52] not sure about all the groups existing [10:52] alienBOB: Yeah I figured it was. [10:52] alienBOB: I didn't tkae the time to look it up, but I figured it had to be irc client specific [10:52] You should be in the correct groups by default [10:52] arfon: not really. [10:53] Has been for me [10:53] I can think of at least one easy scenario wherre you miss pretty much most of the important groups by not reading and quickyl pressing enter :) [10:53] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Hey, I know this is dumb, but could someone take a look at these instructions and tell me what in the hell you think it means? http://www.nathancoulson.com/proj_grub2_915.shtml [10:54] then again, I mount everything by fstab with user option.... [10:54] you still need to press "up" in the adduser-script to be added to the default groups [10:54] I've patched and compiled grub, but the "use" section is bizarre. [10:54] v3gard: exactly. :) [10:54] lain_: Read the CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT .. the instructions are in there. [10:55] (but yes, basically what Roin said) [10:55] thanks BP{k} =) [10:55] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-54-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:55] BP{k}: so plugdev was it? I usually just add my user to the groups which look important to me :x [10:55] a [10:55] You guys are so helpful. :) [10:56] seems plugdev isnt enough [10:56] lain_, relogin [10:56] think depeche mode. [10:56] wheel ;) [10:56] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] florian disk wheel audio video plugdev netdev scanner that are mine. I wonder if there is some note on important rgoups somewhere [10:56] lain_: 1) /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload 2) logout and ... yeah that. [10:56] he left [10:57] hes just rebooting. [10:57] vinic_ (~heinrich@p5B3D4F54.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] :) [10:57] floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev users michiel [10:58] no wheel? im in wheel. [10:58] hm... I'm not in power group [10:58] jg71: you probably added yourself then. [10:59] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:59] yupp [10:59] i selected the depeche mode fan edidtion plugin support during install ;) [10:59] the what? [11:00] nevermind, Roin [11:00] k [11:00] Guest65377 (~meh@c83-249-236-52.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:00] BP{k}: why do you have a group named michiel? [11:00] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:00] Nick change: Guest65377 -> bah [11:00] group named afte his own user I guess [11:00] after* [11:01] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [11:01] whats its purpose? [11:01] prolly for debian magic. [11:01] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:01] no clue, useradd does that automaticly [11:01] nice reboot, lain_ [11:01] Nick change: bah -> meh2 [11:02] does it work now? [11:02] nop [11:02] i added my user to the plugdev group with gpasswd -a lain plugdev being root [11:02] BP{k} said to do: /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload <-- as well [11:02] ...and you can mount it as a user from the command line? [11:02] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Action: lain_ trying to mount it from the command line ... [11:03] lain_: execute "groups" as normal user to see if it worked, i usually add groups like: usermod -aG plugdev lain [11:03] lain_: id works well too [11:03] users floppy audio video cdrom plugdev scanner <-- my current groups [11:04] bash-4.1$ mount /dev/sdb1 ./foo/ [11:04] mount: only root can do that [11:04] cant mount it from the command line, restarting messagebus ... [11:04] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:04] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE70.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [11:04] how does he start things in exactly... down there in argentine... [11:04] he didn't get it [11:05] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE70.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] When he starts things, they go counter-clockwise (because it's the souther hemisphere) [11:05] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:06] now it works =) [11:06] great \o/ [11:06] thanks so much all of you =) [11:06] what did it make work? [11:06] restarting messagebus [11:06] ah :D [11:06] BP{k} is good [11:06] indeed [11:07] Action: arfon is awe of his awesomeness [11:07] What does BP{k} stand for anyway??? [11:08] I think British Petroleum {potassium} [11:10] no no. BP stands for Beyond Pollution. [11:10] ..and the {k} ? [11:10] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:10] {klassified} [11:11] Ah [11:11] He must be German... "Klassified" [11:12] run a whois on him and you know he is from Holland [11:13] thats what you think [11:13] It says he's connect through London and that's all. [11:14] But, I can believe that he is from the Land of Hols by his name [11:14] thats what he wants you to think [11:15] Roin: pft Holland, that are only 2 regions in the Netherlands [11:15] So he really IS Klassified... hmmm [11:15] dry land and wet land, surrounder ? ;) [11:16] hehe [11:16] You forgot tulipville and windmilltown [11:16] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:16] and camper central [11:17] isn't that 'caravan' in Europe? [11:18] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:18] sahko: and he would be correct. :P [11:18] quit [11:18] arfon: caravan is the thing you pull with a car (at least here in .nl) [11:18] well, the caravans are used for camping. and slowing things down on highways. and ... well. [11:18] doupe (~sys@189.77.121.248) left irc: Quit: Eat right, exercise regularly, die anyway. [11:19] Action: arfon learns so much here. [11:19] arfon: and really .. if you're basing the london thing of what IRC server I use ... ;) [11:19] I'm not, I'm sure you're not in London [11:19] young padawan... ;) [11:20] arfon: correct .. although my linode is ;) [11:20] I am up in manchester. [11:21] REally??? Near Wales? [11:21] I wouldn't call manchester "near wales" personally. [11:22] It's closer to Wales than Texas. :) [11:22] same thing regarding language [11:22] Sorry, isn't Manchester the closest airport to Gwynedd? [11:22] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:22] m1ho (~john@77-85-141-53.btc-net.bg) left irc: Client Quit [11:23] last time i talked to mrs dhulchaointigh she didnt know either. [11:23] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.148) joined ##slackware. [11:23] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-3-110.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:23] arfon: hm, I am guessing that liverpool airport is closer. [11:24] ^DEMOSS^ (~^DEMOSS^@ip94-143-240-184.sampo.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Well, that shows you my geographical knowledge of England :P [11:24] <^DEMOSS^> 2A5< ?@825B [11:24] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:24] <^DEMOSS^> hi all [11:25] Hi DEMOSS [11:25] nyet!! [11:25] <^DEMOSS^> BP{k} what ? ) [11:25] I am not impressed with my first experience with grub. [11:25] a russian that doesnt speak russian. [11:25] Redb3ard: nobody is ;) [11:25] <^DEMOSS^> i speak in EN now [11:26] The first 5 tutorials on grub on google were written by someone heavily under the influence of drugs. [11:26] folks that stick to it especially [11:26] Red, you're funny [11:26] feindbild (~iostream@89.204.137.69) joined ##slackware. [11:26] They do not specify locations for config files, if there are any. Or what would go in them. Or anything like that. [11:26] hi ^^ [11:26] nabend, feindbild [11:26] grub stuff goes in /boot/grub [11:26] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-21-30.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:26] That's becaus etheir GUI installer takes care of all of the for them Red. [11:26] <^DEMOSS^> i want starting using slackware [11:27] even I know that and I don't use grub :) [11:27] So, grub is for Ubuntards? [11:27] no - it's just not for slackware [11:27] available, but not supported [11:27] I believe that's why it's in extra/ [11:27] Good for you DEMOSS [11:28] Demoss, How can we twist your mind? [11:28] [firestarter] (~paulo@189.27.226.175.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:28] I guess killing reiserfschk is a very bad idea? ^^ it semms to be stuck in an endlessloop over the same set of files for an hour now :( any idea what to do? [11:28] <^DEMOSS^> i download and recording slackware 13/1 release - but in 64 bit pocket this have many problem [11:28] *seems [11:28] I have an idea. Use filesystems that aren't written by wifekillers. [11:28] feindbild: sorry nope, never used reiserfs myself [11:28] Demoss, do you have a 64bit machine? [11:28] <^DEMOSS^> iinstall it on my core i7 \ p6t asus \ 12 gb ddr3. some packets install good. Some have errors [11:29] Redb3ard: nice trolling. [11:29] Ah, you downloaded the DVD image and burned it to a DVD then tried to install it? [11:29] <^DEMOSS^> yes [11:30] IDemoss, I have had that happen to me also... It usually is a bad DVD. [11:30] ^DEMOSS^: did you md5sum the downloaded file before burning it? if it matched, try burning it at a lower speed [11:30] <^DEMOSS^> i chois install all in menu ( i read some man for slackware in russian) [11:30] in soviet russia, president would have installed it for you, ^DEMOSS^ [11:30] install al is good :) [11:31] ;) [11:31] If the Slackware installer reports a bad package, you have a bad package, do what alisonken1home said [11:31] <^DEMOSS^> arfon ( i pod \ iPhone \ iPad \ iDemoss ??? )))) [11:31] iDontknow, ^DEMOSS^ [11:31] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:31] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:32] <^DEMOSS^> if i choise another punkt's in menu - i may die before accept install ALL packets what i want [11:32] <^DEMOSS^> they hav e more than 100+ packets [11:33] these days i only do full installs. [11:33] <^DEMOSS^> md5 checksumm is good [11:33] <^DEMOSS^> i bern it and verify in UltraISO [11:34] <^DEMOSS^> you think it is bad ISO file / [11:34] <^DEMOSS^> ? [11:34] <^DEMOSS^> packets in iso... [11:34] it wouldn't be unheard off for a download to go bad. [11:34] I take that back. This tutorial is just trolling. Evidence: "and install the GNU information manual and man pages. " [11:35] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:35] <^DEMOSS^> if i download CD image - have they GNOME ? [11:36] <^DEMOSS^> or in slackware better using KDE ? [11:36] ^DEMOSS^: no, gnome is not part of slackware, but you can install gnomeslackbuild, aka gsb if you want gnome, it works well [11:36] ^DEMOSS^: what you want really. [11:36] dd if=/dev/burnedisodvd | md5sum and compare to the md5 of the .iso ^DEMOSS^ [11:37] <^DEMOSS^> i want install system, DE , and some packets [11:37] <^DEMOSS^> or clear system and de - another packets i install on my hands [11:37] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:38] <^DEMOSS^> anybody know, Slacware can find all drivers on my i7 \ p6t\ Fermi GTX470 sli ??? [11:39] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [11:39] ^DEMOSS^: that's a kernel issue, not a slackware issue [11:40] slackware 13.1 used kernel 2.6.33.4, so you can check from there [11:40] <^DEMOSS^> i know, that debian not like GTX470 [11:40] Demoss, I like to download the ISOs via torrent (helps minimzie dl errors). [11:40] <^DEMOSS^> i download in torrent too [11:40] Then burn the dvd and install, when the install detects bad packages, it's always been due to the DVD being scratched or badly burned. [11:40] <^DEMOSS^> but i think - may be i need download CD - not DVD ? [11:40] This is so completely useless, I don't even know how to complain about it. [11:41] KDE vs Gnome? I prefer KDE [11:41] hmm nice motherboard though. [11:41] Will it work on your hardware? Don't know, try it :) [11:41] <^DEMOSS^> arfon ok - i try ) [11:41] <^DEMOSS^> and thank you ) [11:41] ^DEMOSS^: the dvd is fine - just make sure the md5sum's match for the downloaded ISO, then try burning at a lower rate. sometimes the fast rate of dvd burners will be affected by not-stellar media [11:41] <^DEMOSS^> ***starting download CD image [11:42] burning at a slower rate = win [11:42] <^DEMOSS^> i dont want install all packets [11:42] <^DEMOSS^> it is may slow system and eat more space [11:42] Demoss, when you get to the install part, choose the HUGE Kernel [11:42] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [11:42] ^DEMOSS^: and how much hard disk space do you have? [11:43] <^DEMOSS^> alisonken1home OK [11:43] <^DEMOSS^> 4x500gb and 2x1tb [11:43] <^DEMOSS^> raid 10 and raid 1 [11:43] and you worry about space .. uhm .. exactly why? [11:43] huge-smp kernel [11:43] cos space is out there. not here. [11:44] jg71: put down the spacecake man ;) [11:44] ^DEMOSS^: a full slackware install is about 5 GB. [11:44] BP{k}: hehe. that space question always reminds me of the classic battlestar galactica intro [11:45] I always think of STOS - "Space. The Final Frontier" [11:45] and it's been so long I forgot the classic BG intro [11:46] Grub can't even see my drive on this. It claims hd0,1, but I've only got one partition. [11:46] No swap Red? [11:47] Didn't bother on these. It has those 2 gig solid state drives. [11:47] <^DEMOSS^> i have 80 gb 2.5 sata2 for test systems [11:47] Ah. [11:47] Plenty of ram, will only ever be running a single userspace script. [11:47] <^DEMOSS^> if system working normaly - i clonned it on my normal disks [11:48] And why are articles written in 2006 still talking about boot floppies? [11:48] <^DEMOSS^> but i asked about packets - becouse if i install all packets - it can slowly my system ? [11:48] believe it or not, I still have some servers that have boot floppies [11:49] No Demoss, just because you installed them doesn't mean they all run [11:49] ^DEMOSS^: it's packages, not packets - and only the parts that are running affect system performanc. otherwise it just takes up space on your drive [11:49] If you are new to Slackware, do a full install and learn where stuff is located and how to do things [11:51] The kernel size will affect your speed but again, until you get a better feel for Linux, run the HUGE-SMP kernel [11:51] the only speed difference I've found with huge/huge-smp is boot times [11:52] <^DEMOSS^> i want install some-clean system , do normal backup image ( clonix \ DD \ acronis true image ) and then intall packages that i NEED - not all. But in slackware that's some difficult [11:52] How about the HUGE vs the GENERIC kernels? [11:52] ^DEMOSS^: installing the packages you need is not difficult at all, its all in the install script [11:52] <^DEMOSS^> huge = self compilled ? [11:52] just select the ones you want [11:53] generic is a little faster in booting if you have "compact" in lilo.conf because you're only loading the drivers for your system - eliminating a lot of hardware checks [11:53] <^DEMOSS^> KaMii - select 100+ packages ?? o_O [11:53] ^DEMOSS^: huge=kitchen sink type driver support [11:53] Actually Demoss, it's no harder in Slackware than any other distro... You can opt to install the REQUIRED packages only butthen when you try and do things, you'll be pulling your hair out because a package is missing. [11:53] gfhdsjghrs (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [11:54] <^DEMOSS^> oh [11:54] <^DEMOSS^> i uderstand [11:54] <^DEMOSS^> ok - i try full install [11:55] ^DEMOSS^: the package system in Slackware is organized in sets which are alphabatized, choose the set you want to install, go into that directory, and individually select which pakages of that set you want. if you dont need a set, dont select it [11:55] <^DEMOSS^> slackware have synaptics-like packet manager ? [11:55] Demoss, you can start with a bare system and add ass you need, or you can start with a full system and remove what you want, there is no performace difference and only a Gig or two of disk space difference. [11:55] btw ass = add [11:55] oops [11:55] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:56] <^DEMOSS^> =) [11:56] ^DEMOSS^: slackpkg for upgrades to slackware-shipped packages. sbopkg (slackbuilds.org website for builds) for 3rd party packages [11:56] arfon: likes to add ass to his slackware, he likes big butts and he cannot lie [11:56] Slackware .. now without added ass! ;) [11:56] although donkey may have something to say about big butts [11:56] sirslacker (1000@s0731.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:56] If you do choose not to install the FULL system, make sure you choose MENU in the setup so you can see what the packages do [11:56] ...and mules [11:57] <^DEMOSS^> mules ? [11:57] ass, mule, donkey [11:57] <^DEMOSS^> =) [11:57] Joke Demoss, igore it [11:57] <^DEMOSS^> confirm [11:57] shrek references, too [11:57] :) [11:58] Favorite line in Shrek 2: "itz no mine" [11:59] ^^ makes no sense [11:59] <^DEMOSS^> fuf - it's interesting - how long i can compilling kernel ( core ) in my computer ? ( C i7 ) [11:59] g4tsu (~g4tsu@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [11:59] you have an i7? [11:59] im jealous [11:59] HA! I just saw your "likes big butts" comment KaMii... :) [12:00] ^DEMOSS^: if you have an i7 it will probably take less than 4 minutes [12:00] When the knights find a baggie of catnip on Puss-in-bbots, he says " itz no mine"... [12:00] <^DEMOSS^> or [12:00] <^DEMOSS^> OH - so small time ? [12:00] arfon: i never saw shrek 2 [12:00] <^DEMOSS^> in ubuntu channel pple say me - 1 or 2 day's [12:00] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.244.46) joined ##slackware. [12:01] shrek 2 was the best one [12:01] well i saw parts of it, but it was all in swedish, so i think the translation was wrong... they always translate wrong [12:01] Silly Swedes [12:01] If I am going to install from source, do I need to do so with a slackbuild script or can I just install it straight from source? [12:01] both [12:01] ^DEMOSS^: in here Ubuntu is a swear word, dont use it, and you can NEVER compare Ubuntu to Slackware EVER!!! [12:01] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:01] slackbuilds are better, but source works as well [12:01] You can install straight from source if you want slobad2323 [12:02] just remember that a source install doesn't get added to the package list checks [12:02] I know I "should" create a script and I will when I get to know it a little better... just wanted to know for ease of use [12:02] <^DEMOSS^> KaMii why some ppl say me that it is long-time operations ? [12:02] Ease of use? SLACKBUILD [12:02] alisonken1home, Yeah I understand. So anything I build from source, there is no way to manage? I should really create a script then I guess [12:03] use the slackbuilds.org guidelines to make a slackbuild and it's not that hard [12:03] ^DEMOSS^: compiling the kernel shouldnt take to long on a fast machine [12:03] I would use slackbuild if it had been created. Was just checking for what I should do when I come across a program that doesn't have a build [12:03] Had a bad ubuntu experience there KaMii? [12:03] ^DEMOSS^: it all depends on your processor, and how you configured your kernel, they say days beacuse they have probably never compiled a kernel in their life and have no idea what they are talking about [12:03] Demolidor (~oliviofar@hyadesinc/pub/demolidor) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Demolidor (oliviofar@hyadesinc/pub/demolidor) left ##slackware. [12:04] arfon: i have never used Ubuntu, but i saw it once [12:04] Was it disgusting? [12:04] very [12:04] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:04] i had nightmares for a month [12:04] <^DEMOSS^> OH THANK YOU FOR INFORMATION [12:04] I understand. I have to touch it sometimes and I feel dirty afterwards :) [12:04] you shouldnt bash it though KaMii ._. [12:04] <^DEMOSS^> oops sory for caps [12:04] even on my old 2GHz laptop a kernel compile takes less than an hour [12:05] Roin: i got sent to my room once fro saying ubuntu at the dinner table [12:05] Ubuntu has it's place Demoss... no denying that [12:05] KaMii: lol, now really? ._. [12:05] Are people here running slackware on new hardware or is it something you are using to keep your older hardware running and would use a heavier distro if you could? Not trying to troll honest, it's a legitimate question. I want to use Slackware but I need to be as productive as possible on my machine also. Is it wrong to use something like ubuntu (sorry) to start using linux and then move to slackware when I have some free time to learn? [12:05] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7E1CC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] but slackware anyway [12:05] he [12:05] arfon: you are so correct, I use ubuntu live CD's as cup holders [12:05] slobad2323: thats pretty common [12:05] slobad2323: I run it on my old and new hardware :) [12:06] Slobad, I use it on old and new hardware.... [12:06] slobad2323: i run it on new and old [12:06] i like debian [12:06] Slackware is not hard... TRY not to start off with bad Ubuntu habits [12:06] Heavier distro? [12:06] but not ubuntu some erm way they doing things are shitty [12:06] There is Slackware, and then there are *stupider* distros. [12:06] omegageek (rooot@69-165-138-51.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [12:07] Redb3ard, s/heavier/stupiderererer/ [12:07] is somebody running slackware with gnome? [12:07] m3tti: there is a gnome slackbuild website [12:07] m3tti, I'm not but I know there is a build for it that apparently runs well [12:07] google it [12:07] yes i know [12:07] Action: Roin uses either KDE or IceWM + ROX [12:07] m3tti_: there's not a whole lot done differently between them... next debian release is sposed to have upstart just like ubuntu i think (fedora does already), and thats the biggest difference between debian and ubuntu i can think of [12:07] gsb and dropline gnome [12:07] but just wanted to know how many people are running gnome on slackware [12:08] i tried it once, but could not get sound to work so I took it off.. it only lated 20 minutes on my machine [12:08] maco: in the ubuntu kernel are propriatary drivers and in debian not thats the diffrence [12:08] m3tti_: ahhh ok [12:08] and debian is more free than ubuntu afaik [12:08] d4n1h4ck3r (~dani@189.77.122.19) joined ##slackware. [12:08] I used to run Gnome AND KDE AND FVWM95, I found myself always booting into KDE [12:08] d4n1h4ck3r (dani@189.77.122.19) left ##slackware. [12:09] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7C7A1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:09] and ubuntu is good for starters though which don't want to think to much [12:09] m3tti_: yes. ubuntu has an option on the installer (hit F6) to only install free software, but it doesnt get rid of the GPLv2-licensed blobs from the upstream kernel. debian deletes those [12:09] Roin, why icewm and rox? [12:09] Ubuntu is good for people who will never want to learn anything about Linux [12:10] imo ubuntu is for people who want to use linux but not understand it, or even care to [12:10] arfon: right [12:10] Ubuntu is for the typical Windows user [12:10] KaMii, or have time to (me me!!) [12:10] you know, there are plenty of ubuntu users that /do/ know how things work and care... like um...all the developers [12:10] and ubuntu is getting worse [12:10] the beginning was nice but afterwards :-! [12:10] I want to learn linux and Slackware is the distro I will use when I am done studying what I am working on at the moment [12:10] Action: maco is an ubuntu dev [12:10] slobad2323: IceWM is my favorit Window Manager and ROX my favorit File browser, but on my netbook I dont want to bother with setting everything up, so I use KDE on my netbook and IceWM+ROX on my Desktop boxes [12:10] devs are not normal people [12:10] afk supper [12:10] <^DEMOSS^> KaMii if i starting using slackware - can i get some help with you ? [12:11] maco: im not talking about the devs in that case, im saying its built for a class of people who dont want to or need to understand under the hood [12:11] slobad2323: what are you using at the moment [12:11] You're right maco but, typically, people who like to play with linux choose another distro, Ubuntu's user base is 'users' [12:11] ^DEMOSS^, You can use Slackbook and SlackBasics [12:11] ^DEMOSS^: i dont think Im the best person to help you [12:11] m3tti_, ubuntu and opensuse on my 2 different machines [12:11] but i can always try [12:11] ^DEMOSS^: see /topic for websites to go to for slackware reading material [12:11] <^DEMOSS^> i am russian - thats boock in EN [12:11] yeah, we want to make it easy enough to grow the linux userbase. but we also dont want to prevent people from taking it apart [12:11] true [12:11] slobad2323: are you beginning to use linux or are you using it for years [12:12] <^DEMOSS^> nobody help me with question on my slackware & 8( [12:12] I have used it for about a year [12:12] ^DEMOSS^: i can help you if there are questions but the installer is straight farward [12:12] youngster [12:12] slobad2323: ^^ [12:12] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:13] alisonken1home, Oi... I'm 23 and getting older by the day [12:13] <^DEMOSS^> slackboock can say me some difficult things about compilling and other [12:13] ok - youngster AND new to linux :) [12:13] slobad2323: ah ok than you have to learn the basics for that i recommend ubuntu and opensuse but don't stick to much with that gui tools [12:13] Action: arfon sends slobad2323 an AARP application [12:13] as i was starting with linux they were crap like hell [12:13] no no no, i suggest if you are wanting to learn linux stick with slackware [12:14] slobad2323: oh he's older than me XD [12:14] it will teach you linux, ubuntu, teaches you ubuntu [12:14] I'm with KaMii [12:14] slobad2323: I'm over twice your age and have been using linux since '93 - and even then I still have to ask people like BP{k} and rworkman questions all the time [12:14] you will be sooo lost and confused if you learn ubunut, then try to switch *nix distros [12:14] <^DEMOSS^> for some question i can get answer only at pple [12:14] Action: gfhdsjghrs is amused [12:15] alisonken1home, You should use ubuntu... no questions needed - it works perfectly! (obviously it doesn't! and the pain is that most of the ubuntu "experts" can't help you either) [12:15] <^DEMOSS^> i use ubuntu\debian\mandriva \ red hat \ Router OS - mikrotik [12:15] ^DEMOSS^: get plan 9 [12:15] slobad2323: that's it if something doesn't work in ubuntu you were lost. [12:15] slobad2323: I've tried ubuntu, and redhat, and suse (back when suse was a slack knockoff) - I'm still using slackware :) [12:16] alisonken1home: me too [12:16] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:16] ok not excactly [12:16] it was suse 7.1 [12:16] ^DEMOSS^, I find that Debian hasn't worked on the last 3 machines I have tried to install it on. The installer just craps out on me all the time! [12:16] and mandrake - the wife got me a boxed set once many years ago [12:16] slobad2323: the text installer? [12:16] <^DEMOSS^> but i do not like some things whith that distros - i see that slacware can be better for some my things ind want to start using it [12:16] m3tti_, yep [12:16] has anyone here tried Solaris? how different is it? [12:16] That's a good wife Ken [12:16] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:16] KaMii: very [12:17] it's unix - original unix - with Sun's version of GUI on it [12:17] in a good or bad way? like whats solaris good for? server? PC? [12:17] ^DEMOSS^: what do you want to do if you want playing around with stuff slackware is great it's like gentoo but without that compiling stuff all the time XD [12:17] designed for sun servers mainly [12:17] oh ok [12:17] <^DEMOSS^> but i can's starting one - i need some help and support on another pple [12:17] Solaris is good if you are an ISP and if you have some heavy metal to install it on [12:17] or sun desktops [12:18] and it has a nice name [12:18] hehe [12:18] either way solaris is different enough that even a slackware user takes some getting used to solaris [12:18] alisonken1home: solaris is way diffrent than other unixes [12:18] thats my opinion [12:18] Would you use Slackware on servers for a client? I mean if you were recommending it to someone you were doing work or would you be happy telling them (and telling them about support) that slackware would do the job? [12:18] What does it mean when Freshmeat doesn't provide a download link? [12:18] Other than that this makes Baby Jesus cry. [12:19] I do slobad2323 [12:19] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.181.138) joined ##slackware. [12:19] slobad2323: I also help a SOHO (electronics parts store) and they have machines runnislackware from 8.1 to 12.2 on them - router, server, and desktops [12:19] arfon, on your servers or on other peoples servers? [12:19] Redb3ard: Project hasn't rel;eased any code [12:19] yes, slobad2323 [12:19] my parents are using slackware 13.1 [12:19] XD [12:20] <^DEMOSS^> -) [12:20] is updating slackware (especially when you have third party apps on there) a bit of a nightmare in slack? or is that just rubbish spouted by others [12:20] slobad2323: i find updating easy [12:20] <^DEMOSS^> slackware more faster than debian ? [12:20] with slackpkg its simple [12:20] slobad2323: I do what people hate.... When I upgrade, I back up the data and do a fresh install [12:20] ^DEMOSS^: depends on what you have running [12:20] <^DEMOSS^> ? [12:20] arfon: that's the way I do it? [12:20] and as far as 3rd party apps, just remove them all (make a note of them) then update, then reinstall/compile the 3rd party apps [12:21] <^DEMOSS^> alisonken1home what do you mean ? [12:21] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:21] i've less third party apps [12:21] Demoss, is a chevy more faster than a ford? [12:21] I mean updating the applications, not the entire slackware install [12:21] ^DEMOSS^: slackware is no slower or faster than debian - it just depends on what software is running on the computer will depend on how "fast" or "slow" the computer seems [12:21] arfon: NEVER!!! [12:21] hhehe [12:21] (meaning, it depends on how you have it setup) [12:22] Oh there's a Fordie in here??? :) [12:22] arfon: thats why its a SHOVE-or-LEAVE-it [12:22] I would have though you to be a Volvo or Sabber [12:22] Saaber [12:22] If I want to check for updates and I have installed 20 non base install applications in slackware.... I would have to go to the websites for the software and check for installs individually? [12:23] slobad2323: if they're on slackbuilds.org, just install sbopkg and queue them up for all-in-one upgrades [12:23] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [12:23] arfon: you didnt give me that choice, and since ford bought volvo i go with ford [12:23] or create your own slackbuilds repository to make it easier [12:24] sbopkg is a slackware standard or a third party app in itself? [12:24] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Client Quit [12:24] for also bought International Harvester/International trucks too [12:24] <^DEMOSS^> i want start NET kernel of my college - i am IT engineer ) I do more windows-based things. But it is not stable - it is for children - i want do new kernel ( core ) of my projects and start it on *NIX systems [12:24] yes but GM owns Saab... (or at least they did) [12:24] sbopkg is a package manager like pkgtool that works with slackbuilds.org [12:24] ^DEMOSS^: you want .NET on linux? [12:24] ha! why? [12:24] <^DEMOSS^> no [12:25] <^DEMOSS^> network [12:25] slobad2323: it's a 3rd party download ( http://sbopkg.org ) but works fine - and it's already a slackware package [12:25] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:25] so without slackbuilds, would slackware be usable? [12:25] <^DEMOSS^> some network projects [12:25] feindbild (~iostream@89.204.137.69) left irc: Quit: Bye [12:25] no - slackbuilds just make it easier to maintain since it creates slackware packages out of sources [12:25] Slackware was usable for 10 years before slackbuilds [12:25] slobad2323: for me slackware has every package you want to use [12:25] Before that Checkinstall [12:26] what do you need slobad2323 on your systems [12:26] without slackbuilds it seems like it would be almost impossible to keep things up to date. [12:26] Action: arfon needs WoW [12:26] not impossible - just more like windows :) [12:26] arfon, needs help :-P [12:26] but KaMii hasn't set it up yet [12:26] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [12:26] <^DEMOSS^> backup srver ( srvice) \ web-server \ domen controller \ network data-base for 3-4 projects ( external) [12:26] alisonken1home, are you telling me slackware is more like windows when it comes to updates than any other distro? [12:27] slobad2323: no - if you don't use slackbuilds - THEN it becomse more lke windows where you have to go grab sources from their websites manually in order to update your 3rd party software [12:27] oh arfon pm me and i will help you [12:27] <^DEMOSS^> **router \ content filter\ [12:28] TY... It will have to be when I'm not at work... [12:28] alisonken1home, is there any reason why slackbuilds isn't affiliated with slackware then? Sounds like Slackware needs it (or really should just have sbopkg by default etc) [12:28] if you use slackbuilds (and especially slackbuilds.org with/without sbopkg), it's just normal upgrades [12:28] troyjan (4f718c68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.113.140.104) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:28] KaMii, I need to put it on an Ubuntu machine though.... [12:28] (wait for it) [12:29] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) joined ##slackware. [12:29] hi [12:29] (waaaait for it) [12:29] slobad2323: slackware has been using slackbuild scripts for years now - it's only 3rd party stuff that you go to slackbuilds.org the unofficial-official site for slackware 3rd party software) [12:29] slobad2323: i only update when I need to, as in, something breaks, or there is a security bug etc... otherwise, if it aint broke dont fix it! this is not micro$oft [12:29] alienBOB: you there? [12:29] arfon: why not do it in slackware? [12:29] slobad2323: if you look at the sources on the dvd, you'll see the slackbuilds there [12:29] Action: kornerr has questions on mulitilib restrictions [12:29] <^DEMOSS^> i do some on debian - but if i use more resourse - debian have slow perfomance [12:30] alisonken1home, sorry, I mean why wouldn't slackware be affiliated with "slackbuilds.org" [12:30] I was trying to yank your chain KaMii [12:30] Action: KaMii throws a ubuntu live cd at arfon [12:30] Nothing as fun as watching a KaMuntu explosion:) [12:30] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [12:31] slobad2323: because patrick doesn't have time to keep up with 3rd party software - slackbuilds.org is volunteer help to add 3rd party repository for slackware. keep in mind, though, that some oft the core slackware devs also maintain slackbuilds.org as well [12:31] You know, If that thig wasn't so padded with symlinks, that migh have hurt.... [12:31] Action: KaMii goes KaMiiKAZii on arfon [12:31] arfon, don't throw those! you'll have someones eye out [12:31] PLEASE! NO WAFFLES OR COFFEE!! [12:31] slobad2323: and remember - slackware is still a one-man show :) [12:32] hahaha padded with symlinks [12:32] Action: arfon puts away his Red Rider lever action bb gun [12:32] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:32] alisonken1home, what would happen if Patrick got hit by a bus? [12:32] slobad2323: and slackware is the most vanilla distro i've seen arround [12:32] slobad2323: do not wish evil on pat [12:32] <^DEMOSS^> my brain 8( [12:32] slobad2323: there's already been some discussion of that - it's unofficial, but someone would pick up the slack [12:32] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [12:32] hahaha ^^ pick up the slack [12:33] <^DEMOSS^> alisonken1home what do you think about it [12:33] I dont want anything bad to happen to him [12:33] ^DEMOSS^: think about pat? I don't. I'll think about it if it happens, not before [12:33] pat couldnt die, even you killed him [12:33] I am just throwing at you all the reasons I might not want to use slackware and you have answered all my apparent trolling with decent enough answers :-) [12:33] What if he was hot with a silver bullet and a wooden stake? [12:34] <^DEMOSS^> ok [12:34] slobad2323: you gave reasonable questions - so no trolling was major :) [12:34] <^DEMOSS^> i am going to install slackware [12:34] Action: KaMii cheers [12:34] Try it Demoss, if you hate it, wipe it. [12:34] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:34] <^DEMOSS^> =) [12:34] ok it stopped raining im going to the store now [12:34] arfon, If you hate it... TOUGH! There will be no going back [12:35] <^DEMOSS^> Wish my of good luck [12:35] slobad2323, you a Mac user? [12:35] Good luck Demoss [12:35] arfon: when I get back send me a pm and I will help you get WoW working for you but it requires ubuntu to be deleted and forgotten [12:35] ^DEMOSS^: good luck and I think you'll have some fun learning slackware [12:35] <^DEMOSS^> thanks friends [12:35] <^DEMOSS^> **go [12:35] KaMii, I can't mess with it until much later tonight [12:35] ^DEMOSS^ (~^DEMOSS^@ip94-143-240-184.sampo.ru) left irc: Quit: BB all [12:36] I'll probably have to wait until the weekend so I'm not keeping you up at night [12:36] dang - was going to point him to http://jack.kiev.ua/docs/slackbook/ for a russian version of slackbook [12:36] (time difference) [12:36] time to install slackware... here goes! [12:36] arfon: i have massive insomnia dont worry about that [12:36] ok im going to the store [12:36] K [12:36] Deal [12:37] slobad2323: the only thing to keep in mind is slackare setup still requires that you pre-partition your drive(s) [12:37] alisonken1home, I already have partitions all set up :-) [12:37] or completely remove all partitions and create new ones [12:37] works for me :) [12:37] I will keep it how it is so I can keep my /home stuff - videos and things [12:38] see you on the other side!! [12:38] XD [12:38] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [12:38] if it's any help - I was playing on my new laptop and ended up reinstalling slackware on it 5 times last night [12:38] in the first 3 hours of my shift even [12:38] OMG, I hope he doesn't "FORMAT THIS PARTITION?" [12:38] what happened to make you need to reinstall it over and over? [12:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:39] He like to install Slackware slobad2323 [12:39] Some ppl have thier quirks [12:39] I just need to turn my wireless on and off 27 times before rebooting to install slackware [12:39] I hosed something when doing a slackpkg upgrade - intel chipset on a new dell studio - and now when I enable compositing in kde, when I click on something that uses busycursors/startup notification it kills the x session and goes back to login prompt [12:40] outch ._. [12:40] yeah [12:40] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.244.46) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:40] sucks [12:40] agreed [12:40] but I still have my 5ylo HP Pavillion laptop that does the eye candy, though :) [12:40] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [12:41] hm... I should start figuring out how to write slackbuilds scripts/packages, but somehow I'm to scared @.@ [12:41] and my home desktop with nvidia [12:41] alisonken1home: i've no eyecandy at all and it's also nice [12:41] alisonken1home: I personally think eye candy is a very relative thing xD [12:41] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Action: chance22 likes to play with xsnow [12:41] it's nice to have the cube effect when switching desktops - that and possibly the wobbly windows - it gets peoples attention [12:42] I remember showing my boss Slackware on my netbook, KDE itself was shiny enough to convince him in Linux beeing a cool Desktop OS *g* [12:42] rodrigo_golive: http://slackbuilds.org/templates/ <-- templates to begin with [12:42] Roin: ^^ rather [12:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-3-110.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:42] oh ^^' [12:42] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:43] one of our tech support guys thought slackware was a server-only distro - until I popped the desktop cube on him :) [12:43] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:43] hehe :D [12:43] alienBOB: I compiled my app at Debian 5.0 with multilib support (at least I installed the corresponding pacakges), but it's not working under Slackware 13.1 with multilib installed, but does work with Slackware 13.1 clean. can you suggest how do I need to compile so that my binary works on multilib systems? [12:43] slackware is the unix like distro XD [12:44] the only thing which drives people mad with slackware is setting up a new user, changing keyboard layout and stuff like that, the rest is rather simple [12:44] kornerr: did you read the notes about sourcing the multilib profile before compiling - and the flags for 32-bit? [12:44] I do not compile on slackware [12:44] setting up a new user is easy - cli or gui [12:44] I compiled on Debian [12:44] cli I usually just do: useradd -m florian -G group1,group2,anything|else [12:45] that too [12:45] and then "passwd florian" [12:45] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:45] but a Windows user or a more Desktop oriented user would go mad about the groups and the CLI stuff, I mean it isnt Rocket Science but it needs a bit of an afford though [12:45] kornerr: can you just create a slackbuild for your program? [12:45] I want binary [12:46] freya (kvirc@IP-62-240-89-252.telemail.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:46] might I suggest setting up a slackware vm on your debian system that can automate the build for making a slackware binary package? [12:46] well. I want to skip making 10 packages for 10 various distros. [12:47] that's why I want to deploy binary [12:48] is the source proprietary? [12:48] freya (kvirc@IP-62-240-89-252.telemail.fi) left ##slackware. [12:48] no [12:48] I want my binary to be used by some unpopular distros [12:48] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:48] for which I won't make package [12:49] I would suggest just making a slackbuild script - then you don't have to worry about compatibility/multilib issues on slackware [12:49] as long as the sources would be available, that would be the easiest [12:49] not so easy for me :) [12:50] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:50] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [12:51] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:51] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0501.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:51] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Is ther a OT_slackchannel that you guys hang out at? [12:51] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.8.205.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:51] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.8.205.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [12:51] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:51] ##slackare-offtopic would be one [12:52] ooooooooo I'm there [12:52] kornerr: well, time for me to go to bed. I might want to talk some more later about it [12:52] brb [12:52] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE70.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: brb [12:52] ok [12:52] you might also want to hang around #slackbuilds as well [12:53] night Ken [12:53] I've done some scripts :) [12:53] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE70.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] you might find someone that would maintain a slackbuild for you :) [12:53] morning arfon:) [12:53] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE70.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:53] I can do it myself, it's just not flexible for me atm [12:53] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE70.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] I wonder if there's other channel about Glibc/gcc issues I can address [12:54] g'morning Ken [13:02] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:02] lunch time BBL [13:02] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:02] clijunkie (cc0b1b4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.11.27.79) joined ##slackware. [13:03] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:04] I'd like to upgrade my php installation to 5.3.3 by modifying the php.Slackbuild from 13.1. Is there a better way to do this beyond hacking the Slackbuild file and changing the diffs? Is there a documented way to do this best? [13:07] clijunkie: probably using tgz would be the best, so i'd say slackbuild file [13:08] sirslacker (1000@s0731.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [13:08] mindbender: Luckily there aren't too many patches to redo. [13:10] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.43.180) joined ##slackware. [13:10] clijunkie: i've never used slackbuild files in my slackware days [13:11] clijunkie: so i dunno the process of patching and how far i can go :) but sounds like it can be trouble [13:12] mindbender: so far it looks like the patches have been applied in 5.3.3 so I may be lucky. [13:12] clijunkie: i used to use a tool that generates a tgz after compiling it, i think it has deprecated at some point though but there were some alternatives, can't remember its name. that's how i used to deal with never versions which used to force me the version change log [13:13] mindbender: I've used src2pkg but I'm trying to keep it as vanilla as possible but with the later version. [13:16] Lola-18 (DiKeN@41.236.13.17) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Whats the vim command to list/show all current highlights by example [13:18] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [13:18] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [13:19] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:19] :hi [13:19] :) [13:20] slobad2323 (~root@92.17.243.236) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] alisonken1home, I think it may be from my /home settings somewhere from the ubuntu install before. When I log in to KDE as a regular user it starts up the background but no window manager part. I can start Xchat for example but only from an xterminal which starts up [13:21] ubuntu newbie getting his network set up from the terminal btw... go me! [13:22] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Client Quit [13:23] daadadada (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:23] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:24] daadadada (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [13:24] daadadada (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:24] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-87-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:24] marienz_ (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [13:25] illovae (KaSh@unaffiliated/illovae) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:25] Can someone help me with KDE please. [13:25] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) left irc: Ping timeout: 615 seconds [13:25] if you ask questions, it might help [13:26] oh, you did [13:26] thrice`, :-) [13:26] slobad2323: whats wrong with kde [13:26] can you pastebin: "ls -l $(ls -a)" ? [13:27] or, ls -la I guess :p [13:27] slobad2323: have you used .kde in the /home ? [13:27] When I start it up as the "jake" it only loads up a terminal with no window around it. This does not happen with other users. I have created "jake" as that was my user name on the old install and I wanted to keep the same home directory. [13:27] maybe you should delete it for me it was ever a pain switching from one distros kde to another one [13:28] m3tti_, I am starting KDE from the inittab [13:28] the users settings are still stored in your home dir [13:28] runlevel 4 ? [13:28] m3tti_, yes [13:28] than look if there is a dir called .kde [13:28] in /home [13:28] Would that have any effect? The other distro I had installed was ubuntu - would the gnome settings on my /home directory be a problem? [13:28] delete it and start again [13:28] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.181.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:28] clijunkie (cc0b1b4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.11.27.79) left irc: Quit: Page closed [13:29] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.148) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:29] oh wait maybe there is a xinitrc or something simmilar [13:29] i think that is a . file issue [13:29] m3tti_, would it be a problem if there was no .KDE in there :-D [13:29] yes, kde isn't starting [13:29] nope XD [13:29] did you change KDM to actually start kde ? [13:30] XD ok that could be also a problem thrice` XD [13:30] sounds like you're loading TWM [13:30] I did a base install (with KDE as the DE. I then immediately changed the run level in inittab to 4 [13:30] that is all I did [13:30] go to the bouble in the left corner [13:30] you need to select KDE before you click "log on" or whatever [13:30] with the 3 stripes and select kde from there [13:31] there you go [13:31] let me give it a shot [13:31] brb [13:31] slobad2323 (~root@92.17.243.236) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:31] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:32] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.243.236) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Well that would seem to have fixed it :-D [13:33] XD [13:33] welcome to slackware kde world XD [13:33] Ubuntu just did it for me... (I'm sure I will be saying that a lot) [13:33] i think ubuntu has told kdm to use gnome [13:34] but gnome isn't in slackware so kdm turned on twm [13:34] ubuntu uses gdm and in Slackware just running "xwmconfig" as user will tell kdm what to start as default ._. [13:34] if you haven't used ubuntu before kde would start without any issues [13:34] Roin: ok [13:34] welcome to kde! [13:35] If you check /etc/rc.d/rc.4 you can see what is loaded when you hit rl4 [13:35] m3tti_, Yeah it hasn't been a problem before. I always ran away from Slackware but I am going to give it a serious go with SlackBasics and see how I go [13:35] slobad2323: are you useing identi.ca [13:35] m3tti_, I have no idea what you are talking about [13:35] ok it's something simmilar to twitter but opensource and everything is under creativ commons there [13:36] Isn't KDE pretty! [13:36] Yep! [13:36] it is. [13:36] because than i could give you a package for choqok [13:36] its a identi.ca client [13:36] choqok rocks [13:36] slobad2323: are the effects turned on ? [13:36] I do need to try and sort my sound out. It is nowhere near capable of the same level of volume as before [13:36] its AGPL [13:36] er identi.ca is, i mean [13:36] m3tti_, it just looks... awesome [13:37] and it is stable for me [13:38] only thing i don't know why i should use it is the nepomuk search [13:38] marienz_ (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) left irc: Ping timeout: 612 seconds [13:38] Where do I go to enable compositing so that KDE will turn on effects? xorg.conf? [13:38] i've no clue what to do with it [13:38] systemsettings [13:38] m3tti_: if you have a lot of files and dont understand the idea of folders enough to organize things, then you can tag them instead and use the search [13:38] but you're in ##slackware, so that doesnt seem like itd be your use case [13:39] ah ok maco so i don't have to use it because i know how to use folders [13:39] pretty much [13:39] i guess if you had a 1TB drive you might need it [13:39] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-179-12-98.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] because then keeping /track/ of the folders might get tough... [13:39] a college of me could use that because he has no clue of folders he's a osx guy [13:39] yeah you know spotlight on osx? [13:40] its basically that [13:40] Axius (~fd@109.97.34.123) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Could someone tell me where my xorg.conf file is please... I thought it was usually stored in /etc/X11/ [13:41] slobad2323: you don't have to use it anymore [13:41] with the new xorg it was gone [13:41] I want to add compositing support [13:41] bacause of hal [13:41] cobra-the-joker (~cobra@41.131.82.66) joined ##slackware. [13:41] what graphic card [13:42] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:42] why the channel prefixes ## ... isnt this the official support channel for slackware ? [13:42] dualshoott (~dualshoot@unaffiliated/dualshoott) joined ##slackware. [13:42] m3tti_, intel mobile 4 series [13:42] slobad2323: you could kill X and kdm and run the terminal thing with X -configure [13:42] join #kubuntu-br [13:43] it'll create a xorg.conf.new this file has to be stored into the /etc/X11/ diir [13:43] dualshoott: no thanks. [13:43] O_o weird [13:43] m3tti_, I will kill x and do that now [13:43] X and kdm [13:43] otherwise kdm will start everytime XD [13:43] m3tti_, roger roger [13:43] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.243.236) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:43] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [13:44] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [13:45] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Client Quit [13:47] cobra-the-joker (~cobra@41.131.82.66) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:47] hold up [13:47] The Intel cards need special configuration for compositing? I don't think so. [13:48] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[13:53] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [13:54] use kmix [13:54] and enable all channels [13:55] or search in alsmixer vor pcm or master and raise them [13:55] i've to switch both master and pcm [13:55] I will try kmix as I have tried alsamixer and raised everything to the max [13:56] kmix doesn't actually exist :-S [13:56] ok erm [13:56] hrm [13:57] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.104.47) joined ##slackware. [13:58] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-37-184.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:59] m3tti_, puzzled?! [13:59] slobad2323: alsamixer, max up the output channels [13:59] lookin (~lookin@wjohnd-1-pt.tunnel.tserv14.sea1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] then, as root, alsactl store [13:59] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-119-83.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:59] I have done that [13:59] maybe it is Xine with the volume issues [14:00] I will try some other media [14:00] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Howdy [14:00] dyhow [14:01] why do? [14:01] owdyh pupit [14:01] slobad2323: yes i am [14:01] arfon: pow dyhipto [14:01] Action: arfon hopes raela notices how he's trying to learn to use tab-complete [14:01] lol [14:02] haha [14:02] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) joined ##slackware. [14:02] asdf asdf? [14:02] alienBOB: I've compiled my app on 13.0 with multilib and it doesn't run on 13.1 with multilib. I suspect smth is wrong [14:03] kornerr: which app? [14:03] alienBOB: since debian compiled app runs fine on 13.0 and 13.1 without multilib [14:03] gentlemen and some ladies, here is my problem, after my slack boots up on MSI 635x, while i am at console the error comes up: http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/ctrl4del/?action=view¤t=DSCN0421.jpg [14:03] sahk0: my own [14:03] kornerr: whats the error? [14:03] Does anyone have any trouble with flash on 64 bit? [14:04] sigsegv at /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-slackware-linux/4.4.4/../../../../include/c++/4.4.4/bits/stl_tree.h:985 [14:04] 985 while (__x != 0) [14:04] arfon: aw, I'm proud of you! [14:04] slobad2323: everybody [14:04] Action: arfon bites his tongue at slobad2323's comment [14:04] Action: arfon beams [14:04] Am I going to be able to get it to work on Slackware? [14:04] yes [14:05] Mine works slobad2323 [14:05] someone explaint teh Family 15 thing to him [14:05] the good link to error pic: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/ctrl4del/DSCN0421.jpg [14:05] hahah [14:05] slobad2323, get the slackbuild and use it [14:05] I tried to check those links. [14:06] eviljames: didnt work? :) [14:06] OMG it's evil james [14:06] evil evil on the wall, solve my error, O mighty all [14:07] pupit: I managed to remove libc.so.6 a few minutes ago. [14:07] pupit: at this point _nothing_ works for me hahaha [14:07] sniff sniif, that's beautiful! [14:07] arfon, Ok... I'm just going to need to figure out this whole slackbuilds thing now [14:07] pupit: Note it says "This is not a software problem!" [14:07] eviljames: yeah i have noticed... [14:08] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.150) joined ##slackware. [14:08] slobad2323, it's easy, follow the slackbuild, and if it doesn't work comeback and ask about the Family 15 thing [14:08] waximum (~waximum@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] pupit: Turn off MCE perhaps [14:08] family 15? [14:08] slobad2323: slackbuild works like this [14:09] other thing is with this error is that if i boot quickly in X everything is fine until i do some ssh [14:09] It's an AMD processor problem that affects one family [14:09] slobad2323: download the source and the slackbuild package [14:09] I don't suffer from it so I don't remember the details [14:09] extract slackbuildpackage [14:09] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:09] eviljames: recompile the kernel? [14:09] put source packge in the extracted slackbuild package [14:09] cd to the dir [14:09] pupit: It's a boot-time option. Access LILO boot prompt: Linux nomce [14:10] ./nameofpackege.SlackBuild [14:10] slobad2323, but the fix is on alienBOB's website [14:10] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-87-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:10] eviljames: those lines "linux nomce"? [14:10] and do installpkg /tmp/nameofpackage.txz [14:10] Guys is someone else also facing this problem... flash videos (any... including youtube, vimeo, ted) go full screen only once.. the second try does some crash-like effect, with only audio being audible, but no video... i have to refresh the page then :-( i am running firefox with flash v10.0r45 [14:10] same problem in chrome also... [14:11] pupit: Well, whatever your kernel image is. You've used the lilo boot prompt in the past, I'm sure? [14:11] njathan: turn of hardware acceleration, right click on video, flash stuff [14:11] had FS problems in Opera only. FF works fine [14:11] for me [14:12] m3tti_, /home/jake/Downloads/flash-player-plugin/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [14:12] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [14:12] eviljames: not quite, do i have to tell the full path or just vmlinuz nomce? [14:12] wooot [14:12] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [14:12] eviljames: anyway thanks, will try it :) [14:12] m3tti_, You're going to tell me to extract the source I downloaded aren't you :-P [14:13] pupit: I think if you use the lilo auto-installer, it names your kernel "Linux" and not vmlinuz [14:13] slobad2323: pm [14:13] eviljames: youre right! ;) thanks [14:13] pupit: check lilo.conf for your image= (iirc). Use that value followed to nomce to turn off the machine check exception. Not recommended, btw. [14:13] DO NOT extract the source slobad2323 [14:13] pupit: Are you overlocked or anything like that? [14:13] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] pupit, 'settings' is greyed out on right click (in flash... tryng on ted.com video)... (i am guessing the hardware acceleration' option is available there) [14:13] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [14:14] extract the slackbuild and drop the 'source' compressed file into the new slackbuild directory. [14:14] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-161-88-119.range86-161.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:14] eviljames: nothing like that, its my sisters laptop so only business :) [14:14] then run flashplayer.slackbuild [14:15] njathan: try it on youtube, right click settings, H A [14:15] pupit: ahh. Is it new based on this kernel? [14:15] that laptop is 3-4 years now [14:15] pupit: The error, that is. Fresh install, or did this just start happening.. ? It doesn't seem like the kind of thing that should pop up randomly. [14:15] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] eviljames: fresh install [14:16] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [14:17] if i remember, i think i tried 12.0 slack and it was ok, but i just tested it can it run linux, not remember what was the kernel on 12.0 [14:17] thought that, 13.1 must be super-duper fine :) [14:18] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] pupit, works well in youtube.. but not vimeo, ted :-( [14:18] pupit, ' coz there's no settings available there [14:18] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:18] lookin (~lookin@wjohnd-1-pt.tunnel.tserv14.sea1.ipv6.he.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:19] njathan: ok, after you disable H A, do you have freezes? [14:20] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:20] njathan: what GPU you have? [14:20] pupit, well that option does not seem to make a difference... [14:21] njathan: start ff from console, see if that error writes something [14:21] pupit, ahem.. i'm not sure... is there a /proc way to make out ? :-p [14:22] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:22] pupit, *(for gpu) [14:22] /bin/lspci [14:22] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:22] Milencho (~milencho@mahagonny.GISC.Berkeley.EDU) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Milencho (milencho@mahagonny.GISC.Berkeley.EDU) left ##slackware. [14:22] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [14:22] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:22] /sbin/lspci [14:23] pupit, 'VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller'........ I hope thats the gpu info [14:24] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [14:24] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:24] njathan: ehm, im not familiar with intel gpus :\ [14:25] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) joined ##slackware. [14:25] GM965 njathan ? [14:26] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [14:26] alienBOB: I've checked my app compiled at 13.0 with multilib on 13.1 without multlib and it works fine. so smth is really wrong here if binary app with lesser glibc version does not work on system with higher glibc version with multilib. or is this actually a multilib restriction? [14:26] njathan: run the ff from console, and look after crash for errors [14:26] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ecb3:aa09:6ac6) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:26] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [14:27] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] njathan: maybe its flash related [14:27] pupit, just ran ff off the console [14:27] cannot see any errors concerning flash [14:27] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] pupit, me too am guessing its flash related [14:28] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:28] pupit, on last two minor updates to FF, the first screen that arrives, said that i should be upgrading flash [14:28] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:29] pupit, but i did not do it because, there wasn;t an update available on slackbuilds [14:29] aryr (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [14:29] ? [14:30] you will not find firefox update on slackbuilds [14:30] this documentary im watching is retarded [14:30] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.213) joined ##slackware. [14:31] njathan: do you use slackpkg to update slackware? [14:31] they just said one of saturns moons is the most unique thing in the solar system because it is similar to iceland... how can something be unique and similar at the same time? [14:31] not firefox updates... but there is a 'flash-player-plugin' available on slackbuilds [14:31] Axius (~fd@109.97.34.123) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:31] njathan: oh sorry, miss read it [14:32] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-12-154.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] KaMii, Morons trying to be dramatic? [14:32] pupit, no i dont. I just update firefox manually from patches/ when there is one available [14:32] more like propoganda and lies [14:33] hahaha he just called a geizer a geezer [14:33] KaMii: similar != identical. [14:33] lmao [14:33] The Saturn Coalition does spread money around KaMii [14:33] njathan: you will have to wait for the error crash in console :\ [14:33] watch out for saturnites, they will probe you! [14:34] dualshoott (dualshoot@unaffiliated/dualshoott) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:34] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.243.236) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:34] Action: arfon prefers Neptunians, they're purple with four arms [14:34] hahaha [14:34] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [14:35] I think jupertarians are an interesting bunch [14:35] and chick from Sun are HOT! :D [14:35] pupit, i am not sure if its actually a crash... but yeah... something malfunctioning should throw something on the console... which its not currently :-( [14:35] Aw, my Futurama reference went un-noticed. :( [14:35] Action: KaMii never saw futurama [14:35] njathan: patience :) [14:36] pupit, your forgot 'grasshopper' [14:36] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:41] hey thanks for your time pupit :) [14:41] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:43] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:43] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [14:44] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:45] jhw (~jhw@p548D70C9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:45] Axius (~fd@109.97.34.123) joined ##slackware. [14:45] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:46] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: https://linuxspirit.fr [14:46] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.181.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:49] Nick change: WireWulf -> Cuana [14:49] Lola-18 (DiKeN@41.236.13.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:49] OT: Anyone got any helpful opinions or criticisms of Backup Exec and/or Netbackup visa-vee Linux? [14:50] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.104.47) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:51] njathan: lol :) glad you solve it lol [14:51] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-11-242.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Alan_Hicks: do you mean their incarnations on Linux, or equivalents for linux ? [14:52] arfon: :P [14:53] Alan_Hicks: not meaning not to respond about the two specific apps you mention, but check out partimage (check out systemrescuecd)... [14:53] :) [14:53] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [14:53] you can set up to do network backups [14:54] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:54] adaptr: Those two specifically. [14:54] I've been given input on which of those two to use, but can't just suggest something else entirely this late in the game. [14:55] the ones you mentioned, specifically (still vague) or the two things I said, specifically ? [14:55] does backupexec/netbackup have good reviews of it as client and/or server on linux ? [14:55] The company I work for is going to choose either Backup Exec or Netbackup. I want opinions on both of them. [14:55] And this would be client-only. [14:55] I usually try to find some heavy bitching in forums and the like [14:56] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [14:56] they're the same product. backupexec is consumer, netbackup is enterprise [14:56] Alan, what do they do that a script can't? [14:56] arfon: I'm not aware of anything. [14:56] arfon: back up live files ? running databases ? [14:56] *locked files, that is [14:56] Action: arfon always just put batch scrips on workstations [14:57] Yeah, running database backup is good without first dumping to a file. [14:57] Ah [14:57] <--never had to deal with that [14:57] dios_mio (net@78.175.142.27) left irc: Quit: Internet Relax Chat [14:57] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] deal with it evry day [14:57] not on *nix though :) [14:57] We've got a number of MySQL boxes for example. [14:57] You have my condolences [14:58] mysql boxen are tame [14:58] virtualize everything, run the backend on DRBD and copy off one of the slices [14:58] yeah that will be quick as molasses [14:58] mmmmm molasses [14:58] Axius (~fd@109.97.34.123) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:59] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Well, does anyone feel that Backup Exec is easier or harder to get up and running with linux clients? 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[15:38] aryr (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:39] um [15:39] You must select the firmware with the same ID as printed by the kernel driver on modprobe. [15:39] how do i get that ID [15:40] no such things as "FW" in lspci [15:40] or lspci -vnn [15:41] y3llow (~y3llow@111-251-148-150.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] StarX (~StarX@201.87.127.7) joined ##slackware. [15:42] StarX (~StarX@201.87.127.7) left irc: Changing host [15:42] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [15:46] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:46] what do i do after i extracted firmware [15:47] b43load? [15:47] dunno [15:47] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-31-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:49] cr3_, actually, I don't own this chipset, but I didn't think you needed to do anything. did you modprobe b43? [15:50] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.53.22.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:51] i did b43load b43 [15:53] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:53] I don't think that's needed; if you use the slackbuilds.org script, it does the injection [15:53] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: home [15:55] DaRkOoO (darkooo@unaffiliated/darkooo) joined ##slackware. [15:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:57] Linuxant Wrapper is the only thing I've ever had work on that damned Broadcom garbage.... [15:57] Action: arfon hates broadcom [15:58] cr3_ (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:58] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:43] if you run a server at home, does it matter much if you use it as a desktop sometimes? [16:43] anybody already have had this problem ? [16:43] :) [16:44] dustybin, it depends. [16:44] on what [16:44] dustybin, if your isp doesn't care (some do), and you have your router set up for it, should there be a problem? [16:44] what desktop applications you are run. [16:45] maybe terminal screen [16:45] odd bit of firefox [16:45] thats about it [16:46] thrice`, look what happens when I make a scan [16:46] bash-4.1# iwlist eth1 scanning [16:46] eth1 Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument [16:46] Channel flood from upc0d3 -- kicking [16:46] bash-4.1# [16:46] upc0d3 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:46] upc0d3 (~upc0d3@187.56.8.71) joined ##slackware. [16:46] Sorry about that. :s [16:46] eth1? [16:46] yes [16:46] upc0d3, BCM adapters ALWAYS have that problem.... [16:46] what is the "you were flodding" threshhold here? [16:47] isn't it default for slackware wlanX? 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[18:31] what is the easiest way to get dual monitor support in 13.1 i was trying to use xrandr to get it working but it kept cutting of my main monitor on dvi the second one i added to vga would work [18:32] delby (~chatzilla@bzq-79-179-37-117.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:32] thought the newer X was supposed to be doing all this auto detection so you don't have to dink with the xorg [18:32] in kde, the settings -> display works for me [18:33] uses xrandr [18:34] hmm [18:34] i was in a hurry trying to do this [18:34] gotta lotta tabbing to do at work [18:34] have another monitor would help some [18:35] like 7 firefox tabes open and using them all back and forth [18:37] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:37] juice: tabs? 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[19:05] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-54-255.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Nick change: Cuana -> Wulf-is-not-here [19:06] ViN86 (~ViN86@TRMITDESK.MIT.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [19:06] ViN86 (~ViN86@TRMITDESK.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [19:11] is there any setting for to allow using ctrl-c to exit from "man" and "more"? [19:12] q is easier no? [19:12] ctrl-c should exit more. perhaps your terminal is not passing the signal forward? [19:12] ctrl-c is a habit [19:12] I guess it must not be passing the signal then [19:13] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-205-138.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [19:13] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [19:15] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [19:17] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:17] does anyone here know who or what is in MIT room W92-190 (?) [19:18] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:19] wtf? [19:19] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:19] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.195) joined ##slackware. [19:20] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:20] carawayms: Not like room 101 in 1984? [19:20] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:21] there are two ip addresses that have been trying to hack into my router for days, a whois lookup says they are in MIT room W92-190 [19:21] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:21] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.139) joined ##slackware. [19:21] ViN86 (~ViN86@TRMITDESK.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:22] carawayms: heh. [19:22] a bit of googling ... http://www.faqs.org/websites/mit.edu/ [19:22] ViN86 (ViN86@TRMITDESK.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [19:23] If they want to be hackers, why don't they go bother some supercomputer like in "War Games" ? :) [19:23] carawayms: you are missing the point, quite spectacular. [19:24] carawayms: you say someone from W92-190 is attacking you? [19:24] ill report the address if youd like [19:24] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-179-12-98.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:24] chances are its some group server that has been compromised [19:25] my group has a linux server with SSH, and it's had 1000's of brute force attempts [19:25] lol [19:25] they haven't been succeeding at hacker, but the router logs say they keep trying [19:26] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [19:26] 128.30.52.170 and 128.30.52.168 [19:26] ViN86: http://www.faqs.org/websites/mit.edu/ <- seems to indicate that at least at some point, the room was occupied by one Mr Schiller who is listed at the the admin/tech contact for the mit.edu domain. [19:27] carawyms: that resolves to w3.org [19:27] BP{k}: weird [19:27] huh? when I do a whois it comes back as MIT (confused) [19:27] if you contact IS&T via the website they will suspend access [19:28] ViN86: why is that weird? [19:28] BP{k}: because admin/tech is trying to break into his router lol [19:29] carawyms: yes whois resolves to mit, but the ip lookup says the host is lowblow.w3.org [19:29] yeah, there's no glory in breaking through the router of some ordinary little person [19:29] gfhdsjghrs (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:30] I think I see what I did wrong in xrandrt [19:30] carawayms: last update was 2003 according to whis [19:30] *whois [19:30] s/xrandrt/xrandr [19:30] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:31] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:31] I'm hardly a net expert enough to tell whether the whois or the ip lookup are right [19:31] me neither [19:31] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:31] interesting enough, the ip' [19:31] says registrant street is 32 vassar st., room 32-G524 [19:32] s you posted are not in the same range as the ones listed on the mit page [19:32] i know where that is [19:32] alisonken1home: i was thinking the same thing, MIT IP's typically begin with 18.xxx.xxx.xxx [19:32] usually 18.63 [19:33] are whois records often wrong? [19:33] and since MIT has a whole a-block, I don't think they would need to go outside of it [19:33] http://libstaff.mit.edu/colserv/digital/ordering/ip.html [19:33] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-205-138.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:33] oh really. [19:33] BP{k}: interesting - the do have that block [19:34] ahh it's CSAIL at Stata [19:34] what is CSAIL ? [19:34] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:34] http://www.csail.mit.edu/ [19:35] odds are if its at mit and an acronym, it has its own hostname [19:35] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:35] ai work aparently [19:35] ZOMG it become selfaware! [19:35] so it';s an artificial intelligence trying to hack my router? :) [19:35] BP{k} hahaha [19:36] carawayms: no someone got control of one of the machines [19:36] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:36] http://ist.mit.edu/contact?from_url=ist.mit.edu/ [19:36] ok, so it's not SkyNet :) [19:36] send those guys a message [19:36] with some screenshot of the attempts [19:36] carawayms: no skynet is a uk thing :P [19:36] they will sort it out [19:37] my groups server gets attacked constantly [19:37] just brute force stuff [19:38] thanks for the link. [19:38] np [19:38] had to deal with them today when some idiot hooked a router into our network and fubar'd the school's DHCP server [19:38] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) left irc: Changing host [19:38] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) joined ##slackware. [19:38] err blocked it at least lol [19:39] was the router set for being a dhcp server? [19:39] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:39] the one they connected? lol yes [19:39] some people think a router = a switch.... [19:39] not when dhcp is enabled [19:40] switches aren't bad things to have [19:40] nah, i have one [19:40] _pAt (~pat@pD9E097DD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [19:40] switches are good. especially when it gets dark. I use them to turn the light on [19:40] I almost bought a surplus intel switch, until I found out it had snmp that couldn't be turned off [19:41] BP{k}: i boycott those switches, real men connect the wires with their hands [19:43] I still have the option to buy a cisco catalyst switch, but from the look of things it uses close to 500w [19:43] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:43] how i can build Module.symvers ? [19:43] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:44] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] carawayms: lol 500W, how efficient [19:45] obviously it was before the days of conservation [19:46] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:46] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:46] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. 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[19:57] greetings and salutations [19:59] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:59] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [20:00] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [20:01] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:04] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:06] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:07] aziztcf (~aziztcf@dial-82-141-79-157.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:07] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:07] greetings [20:16] greetings professor Falken. Shall we play a game? [20:19] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [20:20] how about "global nuclear war" ? :o [20:20] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] howdy slackers :) [20:20] "thermo-nuclear war" [20:21] adaptr: how about chess? [20:21] a nice game of chess [20:21] :o [20:21] wimps [20:21] Nerds [20:21] Wargames <3 [20:21] WarGame maybe [20:21] Defcon 5! [20:22] because WOPR said so! [20:23] Night [20:24] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [20:27] I think that was one of the first recorded subliminal product placements in history [20:28] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7E1CC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:28] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:29] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.10.245.10) joined ##slackware. [20:32] lookin (~lookin@wjohnd-1-pt.tunnel.tserv14.sea1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] guillotine_ (guillotine@modemcable108.44-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:35] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:35] hi, I'm about to install Slackware 13.1 on an Acer Aspire One. My question is which kernel should I use during and after the installation? [20:35] default, huge.s, hugesmp.s [20:35] is there a reference (besides man) to help me learn sed [20:36] man does not help me at all, just gives me a headache [20:36] KaMii: absolutely, google [20:36] there are tons of good examples and such [20:36] andarius: a little more specific would be nice [20:37] KaMii: this is excellent http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html [20:37] then be specific in your search terms [20:37] KaMii, i'd recommend the grymoire guide [20:37] thank you woh3 [20:37] thanks, woh3 [20:37] andarius: dont troll [20:37] it is not trolling. that is how I learned to use it. some of the first results are guides written by IBM [20:38] also some cs.utah.edu domain has a good awk / sed guide [20:38] dont be lazy [20:38] KaMii: www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html [20:38] ah, woh3 already posted it [20:39] andarius: when someone asks for a reference they want a specific reference, not for you to spout off google. If you have no usefull help, then dont talk [20:40] now you are being lame. a search for sed turns up some of the best references you can get. [20:40] why give one when that gives several? [20:40] some bits here too: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/sedawk.html [20:41] probably the hardest part of sed for a beginner is the regexes [20:42] and sed itself is cryptic enough to be confusing to a beginner [20:42] which kernel (default, huge.s, hugesmp.s) should I use during installation and afterwards. I'm running an Acer Aspire One D150 [20:42] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-196-14-18.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:42] guillotine_: try the default, should that fail fall back to the non-smp kernel [20:42] hugesmp for installation [20:43] guillotine_: after install it is HIGHLY recommended to use one of the generic kernels [20:43] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [20:44] andarius: google is a card catalog at the library.... it lists many good and bad references, advanced, intermediate, and beginners guides. I was asking for a specific reference, mentioning google is moronic advice. [20:44] KaMii: if you say so [20:44] thank you [20:45] KaMii: drop it. google is fine. google: sed tutorial and you get the (imo) best one out there [20:45] ViN86 (ViN86@TRMITDESK.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:46] lookin (~lookin@wjohnd-1-pt.tunnel.tserv14.sea1.ipv6.he.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:46] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:47] KaMii: if it was a specific problem which is in fact hard to find information about then answering google, is slightly impolite [20:47] cmk_zzz: it was, I have been trying to find a decent manual about sed, and could not, so i asked in here, then i got referred back to google.... blah [20:48] you ppl spend more time arguing than you do helping sometimes, its insanity [20:48] who told you we were sane? [20:49] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] ok maybe sed isnt what i want........ [20:50] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-17-113-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] what do you want to do? [20:51] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:51] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:51] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] im trying to get conky to display weather without using perl [20:52] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] all i am getting now is a bunch of xml [20:52] and i dont know if i use sed or cut to display only what I want to see [20:53] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] -shudder- configuring conky is a pain [20:54] not really [20:54] conky is easy, but weather sux [20:54] well weather is easy with python [20:55] but i dont want to be running python, seems a waste [20:56] kamii i didnt like it. i enjoyed the end result tho [20:56] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:56] at first, conky is a headache, but once you get use to it, it really is not that difficult [20:57] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:58] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-54-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [21:02] for some odd reason, I can't install Slackware from a flash drive. My sources are on /dev/sdb and I specify /slackware as the directory containing the packages (a, ap, etc.) [21:03] when I hit enter to confirm, I get a mount error and I'm given the option to start over or ignore the warning [21:03] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-17-113-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:03] bios? [21:03] is there away to set sbopkg and slackpg to use the same blacklist?? [21:04] guillotine_: did you mount the drive first? [21:04] KaMii: tr is MUCH easier than said [21:04] sed [21:04] ..and cut is your friend :) [21:04] make a directory inside /mnt [21:04] hello? [21:04] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:04] then mount it [21:04] arfon: whats tr? [21:04] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:04] becauese sed is giving me a headache, i cant make sense out of it [21:04] KaMii: I booted with the flash drive, so it's already mounted [21:05] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] and you can see the files in /slackware [21:05] KaMii: did you see my comment about tr? [21:06] arfon: yes but i never heard of tr before [21:06] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:06] tr is a neat little tool that does the whole s/blah/bleh/ thing [21:07] haha [21:07] and can do stuff like /upper/ /lower/ [21:07] i just need to cut a LOT of stuff out of this xml that grabbs weather [21:07] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:07] Between grep, cut, and tr you should be able to parse those XML files [21:07] but all i can see about sed is replacing, i dont want to replace anything [21:07] what do you want sed for? [21:08] i thought thats what I needed [21:08] uh... 's/blah//' removes [21:08] i think i will just grep and cut [21:08] and a REAL useful grep option is -A [21:10] YAY! my server is up! [21:10] blah no this wont work at all [21:10] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:10] the xml is in farenheit, i need celsius [21:10] blaaaaaaah [21:10] i hate things right now [21:10] bash will do math [21:11] also, if adrien were here, he'd rip into you for trying to parse xml with sed, I bet [21:11] or at all [21:11] 1.8F = 1C (I think) [21:11] KaMii: it says I can't use /mnt as mount point because it might be used by the setup program, where can I safely create the directory? [21:11] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:11] guillotine_: thats why i said you have to create a directory inside /mnt [21:11] uhh no [21:11] create a dir in / [21:11] it won't affect anything later [21:11] if I recall /mnt is used by the installer to mount the / partition [21:12] i thought you could create a dir inside /mnt and be ok [21:12] I would avoid it [21:12] I'm staying out of this, I don't want my head chopped off. [21:12] installer tells you not to [21:12] I have KaMii before... [21:12] oh ok, well i never tried to do that before [21:12] I don't get why installing from hard drive partition doesn't work... I press enter for the list of available partitions (/dev/sdb is listed where all sources are) [21:13] did you /dev/sdb/slackware? [21:13] when asked to give the dir containing the files, did you try it without the "/" ? [21:13] no [21:13] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Going! [21:13] no arfon [21:13] should be: /dev/sdb1/slackware [21:13] argh : D [21:13] let me check [21:14] guillotine_: you need to direct it to the slackware dir.. so.. yeah. [21:14] or it could be sdb2 if he put swap first [21:14] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:14] Who would be silly enouh to do that KaMii ? [21:14] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:14] me [21:14] i always put swap first [21:14] doh! [21:14] because i cant do math [21:14] so its easier for me to do swap first [21:14] hahaha [21:15] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.10.245.10) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:15] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [21:15] okay, I see why you have a problem with F then..... [21:15] F ? [21:15] 1.8F = 1C [21:15] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] jaha, of course [21:15] :) [21:15] I thought bash didn't handle floats well [21:15] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] and i really dont want to pass more stuff to my cpu to process [21:15] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:16] im trying to cut things down [21:16] Acutally.... (F-32)/1.8 = C [21:16] and i got this weather script but it seems to be incomplete [21:16] or atleast the instructions neglected a step [21:16] Pfft! my TRS-80 can do that math withou breaking a sweat [21:17] Action: arfon wishes irssi had a spell checker [21:17] arfon: my brain has more processor than the fastest pc and I cant even do math, lol [21:18] oh well i give up on this little 'remove perl' adventure [21:18] It's too busy doing other things like keeping you upright and your heart beating.... [21:18] Accept the Perl, it's not evil. [21:18] thats not higher brain functions [21:18] thats now why i want to remove it [21:19] it is for my brain [21:19] its because its soo huge and its taking up hdd space [21:19] im on a 1 gig hdd [21:19] Perl? Huge? [21:19] OHHHHHHHH [21:19] and its maxxed out [21:19] and pearl takes up like 50 megs [21:19] w]two words KaMii, e Bay [21:19] "Sorry, but the directory /dev/sdb1/slackware does not exist on partition /dev/sdb1" [21:19] and i only use it for weather, so its a waste of space [21:19] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] guillotine_: fdisk -l [21:20] yet if I mount /dev/sdb1, it's clearly there and I can see the a, ap, x, etc. directories [21:20] do an ls on /dev/sdb1 [21:20] you have to mount it before it can see it [21:20] arfon: e Bay wont help, the bios on this will only accept i think 5 gig max [21:20] i have a 40 gig, but when i put it in, the bios freaked out and said not gonna happen [21:20] so I mount it anywhere in / [21:20] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-17-113-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] KaMii: two words Best Buy [21:21] (if they have those in Swedeland) [21:21] arfon: we dont have breast buy in Sweden [21:21] or is there a specific place [21:21] KaMii: four words- I don't know then.... [21:22] wait, 50megs out of 1 gig isn't much [21:22] oh well, i dont need weather on this anyway [21:22] well its 50 more when im maxed out [21:22] Did you try removing all of the abba videos KaMii ? [21:22] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:22] i tried to run slackpkg update, and it failed because hdd was full [21:22] hahaha [21:23] abba videos, hhahaha [21:23] :) [21:23] Abba in a Volvo, the Swedish dream? [21:23] between those and the volvo commercials, it just takes up too much space [21:23] I KNOW! [21:23] but you know its illegal for me to delete such icons of swedish culture [21:23] You're too funny [21:24] (I'll send you a link to my copies so you can watch them anytime you want) [21:24] hahahaha [21:24] its just not the same arfon [21:24] :( [21:24] That makes me sad [21:25] Man raela, that one file is HUGE [21:25] I'm only at 22% [21:25] arfon: the chromosomes? yeah, slightly [21:25] Action: KaMii typed man raela in bash.... didnt find anything [21:25] Yeah that one [21:25] trust me, the usual data files I work with are much bigger [21:25] are you cloning chromosones again arfon ? [21:26] try 'which raela' KaMii [21:26] 377G/home/heather/group/heather [21:26] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [21:26] We're cloning a HORSE! [21:26] haha why? [21:26] you want a hamburger? [21:26] The world need smore horses [21:26] \duh [21:26] MMmmmmm hamburger [21:26] No, that's a cow! [21:27] not in sweden [21:27] nothing I do is even close to cloning, btw ;/ [21:27] I bet you have raela [21:27] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ecb3:aa09:6ac6) joined ##slackware. [21:27] i cloned bacteria once in science lab [21:27] have you ever........ [21:27] i think it was bacteria [21:27] ...cloned a disc???? [21:27] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-17-113-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:27] No, KaMii... SPREADING bacteria is not cloning [21:28] it was just a litlte swine flu [21:28] MMmmmmmm bacon [21:28] I'm more interested in studying what's there, not creating new [21:28] you know why the rest of the world didnt have swine flu shot? [21:28] because sweden bought all of it, no joke [21:28] because it moves too fast to get a good aim? [21:28] and the government basically forced everyone to take it [21:29] but i never did take the shot [21:29] KaMii: and you happily complied, weak swedes [21:29] Action: arfon survived the Swine Flu epidemic [21:29] well apparently not you then [21:29] "forced everyone" is clearly nowhere close then [21:29] i never even got sick [21:30] They forced the slow swedes raela [21:30] well it was massive propaganda [21:30] The fast ones got away [21:30] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:30] Okay, let me restate that, They forced the slow swedes raela, the smart ones got away. [21:30] ^^ bingo [21:31] 29% [21:31] :P [21:31] i dont know how i feel about cloning things [21:32] unless its myself, cuz im perfect so I should be cloned [21:32] oh yeah.... [21:32] riiiight [21:32] lol [21:32] arfon: so you need help with WoW? [21:32] How's dinner going there KaMii ? [21:32] a lot of cloning that is done is idiotic.. "my cat was so awesome then died so I want to clone her then have her again!!".. ugh [21:32] Yes but, i can't play with it now :( [21:32] 1 fire was my fault, just one [21:33] Those were just test cats [21:33] raela: you really cloned your cat? [21:33] arfon: I've read a news article of someone who cloned her pet.. damn thing didn't even look the same ;/ [21:33] They are practicing for when the ugly rich men need offspring to torment the world further [21:33] raela: The good cloning (like: my horse was so disgusting I want to clone it so I can beat it to death again) doesn't get enought attention [21:34] hahaha [21:34] Clone... PFFT! I get pets for free [21:34] cloning cell lines is good. growing organs and such [21:34] Aww.... Poor horse [21:34] MMmmmmm hamburger [21:34] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:35] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:35] that raises a question.... ifyou clone a person (for parts) but leave out a brain, is it killing when you harvest? [21:35] ummmm, the whole thing is just wrong arfon [21:36] just have sex, its more fun [21:36] Action: arfon puts down his Jr Clone Kit [21:36] Nick change: bunnyboi -> Jennifur [21:36] 36% [21:37] How bigdid you say this thing is? [21:37] big did [21:37] arfon: what are you going to do when your done mapping out horse chromosomes [21:38] teach it to talk? [21:38] Nah, Mr Ed already di that [21:38] did [21:39] I'm just trying to see if my 'read the file one character at a time' idea works on raela's file [21:39] Why would I teach it to talk? I already have "the smartest dog in the world" (tm) [21:40] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ecb3:aa09:6ac6) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:40] whats the smartest dog in the world? [21:40] My dog [21:40] does he chase his tail? [21:40] No, SHE'S too smart for that [21:40] ya, probably becaues you cut it off [21:41] Nah.... I wouldn't do that [21:41] arfon: oh, hey.. something I thought of.. will it read each character for each line in the file? [21:42] That script I wrote is SUPPOSED to recognize the \n and NOT count those [21:42] how do you make arfon laugh on friday? Tell him a joke on monday! [21:42] ...or Tuesday [21:42] :P [21:42] hahaha [21:42] what year? [21:42] arfon: the issue is.. I sorted my exons.gtf file.. reading each time is gonna have a lot of wasted time [21:42] I'm still catching up there cmk_zzz, I'm up to the jokes told to me in 2006 [21:43] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-17-113-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] were they funny? [21:43] I figured that raela, I couldn't find a single problem in your script so, I just wanted to see if getting rid of HUGE arrays in favor of single characters would fix it. [21:44] Re that DCC exploit yesterday, https://svn.kvirc.de/kvirc/ticket/858 [21:44] KaMii: They were in 2006 [21:44] HA HA HA!!!! [21:44] arfon: I've read larger things into an array before [21:44] I just got another one. [21:44] arfon: read a 2.5GB file into one I think :P [21:44] you got another dcc exploit today arfon ? [21:44] You're a crazy woman! [21:44] 2.5G! [21:45] I'm staying away from you when you're on the road! [21:45] I don't exploit.... :p [21:45] musta been arfon's swedishpr0n.tar.gz file [21:45] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] hhhm, I don't have that one KaMii ...... [21:46] Just abba files :) [21:46] abba = Swedish pr0n [21:46] Oh.... Then I guess I do have that one.... [21:46] waterloo [21:46] arfon: oh, sorry, I was wrong.. I read the 4.8G file into an array [21:46] Thanks a pant load KaMii. Now I have that song in my head. [21:47] hahaha yay it worked [21:47] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:47] well, raela, you do have 16G of RAM... us 4g'ers are lucky if we can get Perl to convert from C to F [21:47] i think im going to lay down, i have such a huge headache [21:47] : [21:47] Too much thinking? [21:47] jessicaa (e_k@41.236.13.173) joined ##slackware. [21:47] :) [21:48] arfon: this comp only has 64 mb of ram [21:48] That sux KaMii [21:48] arfon: yeah. abusing it is bad though.. the script would have taken 33 years to complete, so adrien wrote me an ocaml program to do it [21:49] HA!!!! ocaml??? Is that where you got that from? [21:49] what? I didn't get anything from ocaml. it's adrien's language of choice [21:49] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [21:49] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. 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[22:04] mplayer++ [22:05] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-183-023.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:05] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:06] Action: thrice` agrees [22:07] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:10] mplayer git +++ [22:12] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:12] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:12] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] mplayer -vo aa filename.xyz is all you nee.d [22:13] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:14] can i convert with mplayer or mencoder from wmv to mp3? do i need some libs or ffmpeg? [22:15] hey pupit... you need lame, no? [22:16] pupit, you probably could with mencoder. [22:16] You need support for both types present however. [22:16] im reading man [22:16] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] trying commands :) [22:17] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] there's ffmpeg in slackbuilds... but if i can do it with mencoder that would be cool [22:18] pupit: should be able to using -oac mp3lame [22:18] lol i have some Chinese neighbors chasing some dogs in front of my building, its 4.15am [22:19] hey MLanden [22:19] heya shonudo [22:19] pupit: They need breakfast I guess [22:19] MLanden: will try, thanks [22:19] cmk_zzz: i didnt say that! :D [22:20] You'll need the win32 dlls [22:22] got it http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mencoder-users/2006-February/002782.html [22:22] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [22:24] /c/c [22:24] woohoo! :) [22:24] argh [22:24] denied :P [22:24] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [22:24] failful [22:25] Motoko-chan: no win32 libs, just doing the conversion now [22:25] Ok [22:25] hi rworkman [22:25] what???? i got an error saying my HDD is full when trying to remove a package [22:25] so how do i remove a package then when my hdd is full? [22:26] pupit: ola [22:26] KaMii: rm some stuff manually [22:26] and now removepkg removed the package name from /var/log/packages [22:26] rworkman: i dont trust myself that well [22:27] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:27] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.1.45) joined ##slackware. [22:27] alienBOB: got my messages? [22:29] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [22:30] i can delete the entire /usr/doc directory right? [22:30] i mean, i need to conserve space on this machine [22:30] and thats ok right? [22:31] remove the FAQ pacakge [22:31] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:31] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:31] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:31] kornerr: pidgin(source) updated recently to 2.7.2 [22:32] i never installed the faq package, the folder was created when installing a few 3rd party apps [22:32] $ du -sh /usr/doc [22:32] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:32] er, oops [22:32] 463M /usr/doc [22:33] MLanden: ok. [22:33] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [22:33] i really need to go through and find out what libraries i do not need and delete those, i think have a bunch installed i dont need/use [22:34] KaMii, how big is this HDD (or the overloaded partition)? [22:34] 1 gig [22:34] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:34] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] that's tight [22:35] i know but right now i have about 150 megs free space [22:35] and i still think i have a lot of eccess on packages on here [22:35] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:36] mainly libraries, most the library descriptions didnt tell me much, so when in doubts, i installed them [22:36] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:38] now i can update slackpkg without it running out of space [22:40] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:42] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:43] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:49] Didn't need to do more. [22:49] so I had to recompile ssh, kdebase, ando some other stufs [22:49] Motoko-chan, i've run vm server without... [22:49] nevermind [22:49] you just answered that [22:49] Thanks guysm should get me going then [22:50] cmk_zzz: well, check it out: http://www.labmap.ime.usp.br/HOWTO [22:50] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:51] cmk_zzz: it full of errors, but it can help you [22:51] oda: cool, thanks [22:52] I didn't submit the slackbuilds to SBo, if you need any, just let me know [22:53] will do [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:55] AEnima1577 (~asdfjkl@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:00] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:02] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:03] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:03] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:05] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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