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[00:13] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:16] omnihil (hermes@camel.ethereal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [00:16] hey guys [00:17] say does Slack 32bit have problems running on 4gb ram? [00:17] why not use 64 bit at that point [00:18] I don't know if it's Slack or ATI but when I switched from 2gb to 4gb my windows lagged and weren't smooth dragging around and opening, the system started lagging a bit in X [00:18] well the problem for me is Flash on Firefox in 64 I don't know if I was missing something before that Flash wants like I heard Flash relys on curl, not sure if true... [00:18] I believe 3GB is when people say to start thinking of 64 bit [00:19] why did you want 4 GB ram [00:19] actually its 64GB PAE kernels can address 64GB [00:19] but when I had Slack 64 installed I tried like 4 different versions of flash and none of them worked, when I would go to a site with flash firefox would crash and just disappear [00:19] you have to get the 64bit flash from adobe [00:20] I don't need so much ram for Slack, I'm dual boot on my laptop with Win7 and I use more ram in it and need some more, so of course Slack is going to get it whether I need it or not, hehe ;p [00:20] certain cpus need something special with flash.. amd ones [00:20] I had the 64 bit flash from adobe like I said I tried 4 different versions.... [00:20] amd has never needed anything special [00:20] ok well I have an amd I'm using [00:21] 64bit flash is still beta [00:21] well Adobe pulled the plug so there aren't any at the moment unless you want to use one of the older versions [00:21] I was thinking more about trying Gnash, but not sure how well it's working [00:21] gniks: someone once found out that there was something with a missing instruction.. eh. certain amd cpus do not work with flash without a modification [00:22] they didn't pull the plug, they are working on updating it [00:22] anyone used Gnash in 64 Slack? [00:22] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [00:22] you can't modify flash, its a binary package [00:22] I'm quite tired and out of it.. I just know there's something with it and I believe a patch for something [00:23] ive used flash on xenon processors, amd, and other intel processors in linux 64bit& never had issues [00:23] the plug has been pulled, even temporarily [00:23] gniks: well there aren't any versions to get at the moment like I said, only the older versions and I said none of them worked unless I was missing a slack pack that I needed, but I never knew that flash needed anything... [00:23] right [00:23] sahko: plug being pulled would suggest they are not updating it at all [00:23] it's only a certain subset of amd processors [00:23] well I didn't mean to imply pulling it for good, just for now ;p [00:24] SO anyone used Gnash? [00:24] gniks: what does leaving it vulnerable to security risks while upgrading all other versions suggest? [00:24] known security risks* [00:24] they pulled the plugin from their site for a reason& do you not read? [00:24] http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html [00:25] they specifically state they are fully commited to bringing native 64bit flash support [00:25] & for you that means they're upgrading it in their secret labs? [00:26] if you would like to be a pessimist go ahead, but blatantly denying what a company states on their own site is quite a bad way to go about the world and to give advice to people [00:26] bottom line is that 64bit flash plugin is vulnerable and atm unmaintained as far as users are conserned [00:26] hey is there an IA32_EMULATION in the kernel? [00:26] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:26] sahko: flash is vulnerable in general& not just 64bit [00:26] even the new 10.1 versions have holes [00:27] the 32bit plugin doesnt have *known* security issues [00:27] the difference is the 10.0.x have huge holes and i can show you right now how i can rape your box [00:27] all software is vulnerable [00:27] KB1JWQ (cchandler@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left ##slackware ("I came, I saw, I /parted"). [00:27] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) left irc: Quit: Why can't I just eat my waffle? [00:27] ok kiddies don't be beating each other up I just want to know if anyone is running Slack 64 and has flash working ok in Slack and if Slack 32bit is ok with 4gb ram? [00:27] of course there are no "known" issues& it was released 2 weeks ago [00:27] Xgates: my flash works in 64bit at work fine with the older binary [00:27] Xgates: people do but there is an issue for some.. I'm trying to find it now [00:28] raela: ok [00:28] Xgates: cat /proc/cpuinfo, is it a family 15? [00:28] makes me wonder about that amd thing you are saying if that's why it craps on me... [00:28] If your processor doesn't support some LAHF instruction set, then flash will crash [00:28] Action: Xgates looks [00:29] Action: jkwood points out the flashplugin-lahf library on SBo [00:29] thats only for amd [00:29] iirc [00:29] i am reminded of a convo i had many moons ago with a "missyjane" about security. does anyone remember this particularly unenlightened soul? [00:29] sahko: gniks didn't believe amd has an issue with 64 bit [00:29] old amd too [00:30] mancha, i do..;) [00:30] and Xgates does have an amd [00:30] i guess i just have never ran into the really cheap AMD processors witout LHAFd [00:30] raela: looks good to me---- > http://pastebin.com/i3endQyx [00:30] MLanden heh. she was quite a number...i'll grant her that [00:30] hrm my family is 17 and support was shoddy [00:30] Xgates: yeah this forum post I found had a bunch of people with cpu family 15's having issues [00:31] try the suggested flashplugin.lahf lib on sbo [00:31] raela [00:31] i got 4 x25-m's now [00:31] ;d [00:31] mancha, true, she was...:) [00:31] jeev, I am an idiot. what are those? [00:31] intel ssd [00:31] ah [00:31] mancha, yes I remember missyjane [00:31] alisonken1home, i hope that skank got the picture and converted to a human being [00:31] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:32] heh [00:32] hah missyjane [00:32] is flashplugin.lahf an upstream provided thing? [00:32] sahko = missyjane [00:32] heh. i never talk about sex here, so im out:) [00:32] mancha, no - I ported it to sbo [00:32] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/flash-crashes-firefox-on-x86_64/ [00:33] it's not useful for everyone, mancha [00:33] oh.. right.. it was there. heh [00:33] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) joined ##slackware. [00:33] it only works if you're on 64-bit and you have an early cpu missing the lahf instruction [00:33] raela, yes i know, it is for 64 bit procs w/o lahf extensions. but is that plugin an adobe-provided thing? [00:33] mancha, read the notes - no, it's a hack provided by someone on the web [00:34] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@97.103.10.* expired. [00:34] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@97.103.10.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:34] damn, my cpu does have lahf_lm.. meaning my flash issue is something else :P [00:34] do you know why the flashplayer plugin from adobe loads the hack so? [00:34] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:34] flash doesn't load the lahf hack - that's firefox or use the LD_PRELOAD= workaround [00:35] er, but xgates had lahf_lm.. whoops [00:35] aha, got it, so you preload the lib and that makes a wrapper for the ilahf intructions... [00:35] a quick check is start firefox from cli, and see if you get an "illegal instruction" dump when firefox dies running flash [00:36] alisonken1noc: I ditched 64 bit due to flash issues [00:36] so someone implemented lahf or a subset of lahf in userland, that was nice of 'em [00:36] it doesn't make a wrapper, the lahf.so hack just registers interrupts and checks if it's the error interrupt is lahf [00:36] unfortunately, flash has become more unstable with my upgrade to 13.1 [00:37] alison, i didn't follow that [00:37] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [00:37] back [00:37] if the error interrupt is illegal instruction due to lahf, then it ignores the interrupt and returns, if it's a different interrupt, then it feeds it up the chain to the next error check [00:37] mancha: If you have an Athlon64 CPU which misses the lahf_lm instruction, you need to compile a small dynamic library that traps the illegal instruction signal and then emulates its effects. [00:37] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:38] Xgates: run firefox from a terminal.. does it crash with flash giving an illegal instruction error? [00:38] oh boy stupid me I should know better don't plug your computer into the same wall outlet the AC is plugged into even though you have it plugged into a protector [00:38] oh i see. amd merely misreported flags [00:38] darn AC surged and shut my lappy off [00:38] LOL [00:38] wheeew [00:38] I ceertainly moved the plugin NOW [00:38] LOL [00:38] the procs do have lahf just no lahf_lm flag so the flash-man got confuzzled [00:38] Xgates: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/flash-crashes-firefox-on-x86_64/ [00:39] raela: well I'm on 32bit at the moment now but when I ran it from a term before it never showed anything it just simply crashed was all [00:39] oh [00:40] so for me the biggest question is move to 64 and hope I can get flash to work on stay on 32 and try to get X to behave with the ATI drivers with 4gb of ram and the lag [00:40] it's like one toss up against another lol [00:40] to work on/or stay.... [00:41] Xgates, the problem is going to be adobe changed their drm setup, so newer flash videos may still have issues on 64-bit since they dropped 64-bit support for now [00:41] and they haven't fixed the drm issue in the last build of 64-bit flash [00:41] anyways, i would seriously not worry too much, flash (for video rendering) is prolly on its deathbed [00:41] alisonken1noc: he has the lahf_lm [00:42] I wouldn't say deathbed, but it's definitely in the hospital [00:42] but yeah on upgrade.. certain flash videos won't let me click them (the button will make an action as if I did, but it will not work.. like clicking play won't start it) [00:43] and if I right click to go to properties and change options, it gets stuck and won't let me change anything, or cancel the window. have to close the tab [00:43] well I looked at the URL and I have lahf_lm, so now what? [00:43] raela, that's an indication it was created with the newer flash with updated drm [00:44] Xgates, you can install the lahf-fix and see if it helps, I've been told it's not just amd that it fixes for earlier cpu's [00:44] if it doesn't help, then you can uninstall it [00:44] alisonken1noc: doesn't happen on my other laptop :/ though I think that one has flash 9. I can't disable drm in flash because of it [00:44] I get the feeling for now it might be easier to see if I can get the ati drivers to behave with my 4gb ram instead for now... [00:45] is there anything else the kernel needs for 4gb of ram other then the high ram support? [00:45] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:47] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] so is there anything anyone can think of as to why X with the ATI drivers would lag with 4gb of ram and not 2gb? [00:48] 32 bit can't handle the ram as efficiently? dunno [00:48] I don't understand why just adding more ram is making the windows more unresponsive and slower... [00:49] that's what I was thinking 32bit Slack doesn't handle the extra ram [00:49] BUT the thing is if I take out the ATI drivers it seems better or fixed [00:49] for now from what I remember it was just the ati drivers [00:50] then ati sucks [00:50] 32bit slack should handle 4GB RAM jsut fine [00:50] its a PAE kernel it can handle 64GB [00:50] yeah I'll make sure I compile them over, not sure it makes any difference and look and see if there are any options for high ram [00:50] ok thanks bbiab :) [00:51] later... [00:51] pae's an ugly hack, but oh well. [00:51] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [00:51] gniks: and it's not really the cheap processors, just the early ones.. [00:51] agreed re pae ugly hack [00:52] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:53] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:53] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:53] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:54] theres also multilib.. [00:55] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:59] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:00] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Bang Bang!!!! [01:02] ViN86 (~ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-EIGHTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. 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[01:15] well I'm not getting the lag in Slack that I was before, so maybe when I recompiled the kernel I had left something out that was causing it, not sure [01:15] and don't forget to alternate /dev/zero with /dev/one [01:15] alisonken1noc, of course. [01:15] but hey I'm running 4gb in Slack32 and it's running nice, actually a little bit snappier too :) [01:16] I guess for now I'll be happy with until the Flash war is over LOL [01:16] be happy with it until.... [01:16] could just write /dev/random :p [01:16] Xgates: why dont you use multilib instead? [01:16] 64bit Slack + multilib [01:16] nah to much trouble just for a browser I have no need for it [01:16] Action: byteframe luckily found out the slackbuild for flash-player-plugin doesnt will get latest version, even if it's info file is for an older one. [01:17] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:17] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [01:19] nope my bad I take it back there's something still going on with the ATI drivers, I especially see it with the ATI drivers when I roll then firefox window up and down with my mouse wheel [01:19] it rolls up and down slower [01:19] errrrr [01:19] crappy ati drivers [01:19] roll then/the... [01:20] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:20] that just seems weird that windows would have more lag to them with more ram with the drivers [01:20] hmmm i had that issue earlier this month when 13.1 was released [01:20] you are running the newest drivers right? [01:20] yeah [01:20] 10.5 [01:21] maybe a different version will help? [01:21] newer the better ive found [01:21] ahhh so did you get it fixed? [01:21] i forget what im running [01:21] yeah, the one released earlier this month fixed it [01:21] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.219) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:22] ahhh there's a newer driver [01:22] WoOT [01:22] 10.6 [01:22] let me grab that and see if that helps [01:22] man I sure hope so and let me tell ya this is the FIRST and LAST time I use ATI in Linux unless the world yells ATI now owns Linux [01:22] LMAO [01:23] sheesh my asian wife cooks soup in our rice cooker [01:23] LOL [01:24] she said it's like a crock pot [01:24] ohhh gosh... [01:25] ok off to install brb [01:25] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [01:25] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:25] i've heard crock pot before... [01:26] it's sort of like calling photocopies, xerox copies, etc. [01:26] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:26] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:27] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:27] it's like repairing kleenexes with scotch tape [01:27] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [01:27] yep, those two are good examples also [01:28] installing slackware over the inet now. [01:29] :) [01:29] !!! :) [01:29] had to netboot too [01:29] cd's are a pain sometimes. [01:29] but I was so lucky, I had slackware ready to go for PXE [01:30] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:30] all I had to do was change the cables on the network switch, boot it up and start tftpd and dhcpd [01:30] Action: fatalnix does a victory disco dance [01:31] Action: mancha closes his eyes [01:31] ahahahahaha [01:31] don't like disco? [01:31] Action: alisonken1noc joins mancha [01:32] oh come on! disco is the sh**! [01:32] its where its all at [01:32] I lived through disco. thanks. [01:32] haha [01:33] "lived" might be an exaggeration :P [01:33] not if you were there :) [01:33] stayin' alive; stayin' alive... [01:33] lol,mancha...cool Barry Gibb falsetto....X_X [01:34] heh [01:34] i think i'm going to have nightmares tonight... [01:34] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [01:34] mancha: one way to solve it [01:35] supercalifragilisticexpialislackwareidocious. [01:35] everyone must say supercalifragilisticexpialislackwareidocious ten times fast and they're set. [01:35] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.192) joined ##slackware. [01:35] ask you can tell, I'm pretty tired, this may not make any sense, but I'm getting a bit hyper cause of it. [01:37] i just forgot the exact path of the file we grep to see if a package is installed in slackware.... someone can help me recall? [01:37] pass the ganja! [01:38] ls /var/log/packages/ | grep -i $partial_name [01:38] oh yes! thanks mancha ! [01:38] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [01:38] welcome :> [01:44] hmm harder than i thought to print out the socket name (STY) into screen's hardstatus [01:44] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [01:44] tried to use the backtick command that calls a shell script with "echo $STY" but it doesn't work :/ [01:47] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [01:47] well the newer drivers is a little improvement, BUT the thing is I am running OpenBox and the only lag I'm getting is in the window shade, rolling a window up and down with the scroll wheel [01:47] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:48] did that intel 1000 fella ever get his wifi goin? [01:48] that's the only lag I'm experiencing in, so I'm wondering if this is something OpenBox related as a bug with high ram or ati drivers... [01:49] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:50] ViN86 (~ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-EIGHTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:51] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-182.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:51] 3was sendmail removed? [01:51] i hope not [01:51] weird. [01:52] it must have not installed for some reason and not told me. [01:52] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:52] maybe it wasn't on this mirror? [01:52] a broken mirror is bad luck [01:52] 7 years! [01:52] mirrors.tds.net, I know it is [01:53] I've still got sendmail in 13.1 on my mirror [01:53] I looked in my mirror. It scared me. [01:53] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:53] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:53] would having less ram and compiling something effect the performance of if you simply installed more ram without recompiling? [01:54] ?? [01:54] Did you choose the "N" series to install? [01:54] I'm not aware that source code compiles any flags against ram [01:54] you know whats also weird? [01:54] lilo.conf didn't install and I just chrooted and checkedm the config is entirely empty [01:54] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:54] yes I did choose the N serires [01:54] series* [01:55] ok, sounds like some serious fubarness. maybe it was all the disco dancing [01:55] lilo.conf is generated by liloconfig, which comes after the packages install. [01:55] oh, right [01:55] maybe you skipped some step(s) by mistake [01:56] oh shit I know what happened, it just never told me [01:56] I apparently didn't set up the partitions perfectly, because 200 megs for / isn't enough anymore apparently. [01:56] like it was [01:57] well that sucks to have to go through the install all over again [01:57] it is if you know what you're doing and partition it correctly :) [01:57] /dev/sdc2 2.0G 285M 1.8G 14% / [01:57] I know it! [01:57] it should say: ran out of space! [01:57] 200mb for / lol [01:57] I -USUALLY- give / 200 megs [01:58] I gave mine 2G, used 285M. [01:58] 200mb for /boot maybe but never / on any distro [01:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:58] I throw everything else that would accumulate any ammount of data in a seperate partition [01:58] etc is only 12 megs anyways so [01:58] 200mb is more than enough, a phat kernel's maybe 5mb, and you have 195 to play with... [01:58] this is with /boot, /usr, /opt, /var and /tmp on other devices. [01:58] but I've also seperated etc [01:58] Xgates: it depends on what you install, and how you partition [01:59] I don't think 200MB is enough, at least not for 64-bit. [01:59] I dont have a 64 bit machine for one [01:59] sure, I was just talking in general for the avg user was all [01:59] yes, i'm being ironical, 200mbis quite shabby [01:59] (oh, and of course /home is separate.) [01:59] I actually put /home in /usr now [01:59] and make a symlink [01:59] so my / is pretty stripped down. [02:00] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:00] brb going to recompile openbox to see if it makes a difference [02:00] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-220-6.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [02:00] i stopped worrying about partitioning schemes back in august of '85 [02:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:01] I kept as much off of / as possible, everything else except /boot is LVM'ed. [02:01] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:01] 1 [02:02] 3 LV's, /usr (with /opt), /var and /home. /tmp is tmpfs. [02:02] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [02:02] test [02:03] hmm. interesting. lib is now 162 megs [02:04] /lib* [02:05] 190 here, but oh, I had my old custom kernel's modules there [02:06] ok I added lib bin and etc and it comes out to 177 [02:06] wonder where the rest is coming from... [02:06] sbin maybe [02:06] yep. [02:07] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] I could push it to 400 megs I guess. to overprovision a little [02:07] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [02:07] but I don't like wasting space [02:08] i think FS performance becomes an issue if you cram too much [02:08] depending on the filesystem, of course [02:08] heh, 100M hardly counts as "space" these days [02:08] jhw (~jhw@p579829C1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] I use JFS on this machine, usually have. [02:08] plus as long as you keep it under 90% usage it should be fine [02:09] roughly, yeah [02:09] time to reinstall it all over [02:09] took forever to download all the packages lol [02:10] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [02:10] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [02:10] I might just download a, lib, and n this time just to make it fast [02:10] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:11] ugh have to fix PXE [02:11] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:11] morning [02:11] hey slava_dp, good morning [02:12] slava_dp, mornin' [02:14] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] So it turns out this router, .0.1, is giving me the ip address 1.1 [02:14] lol [02:14] through dhcp [02:14] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [02:16] That's fine if the netmask is /23 or less. [02:19] well it always screwed it up before, and no one touched it [02:19] piece of crap netgear router... [02:19] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:20] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.198.203) joined ##slackware. [02:21] nice, money for nothing is starting to play :) [02:21] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:22] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-120.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [02:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:23] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [02:24] ah, some updates for 13.1 arrived, cool [02:24] what's that? updates for windows 3.1? [02:24] lol my eyesight isnt as good from here [02:24] :) [02:25] yes, fatalnix, for windows 3.1. [02:25] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-73-77.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:25] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.198.203) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:26] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.198.203) joined ##slackware. [02:27] :D [02:29] coreutils, I won't be needing that.\ [02:32] You know what I always thought was funny, the short description is "Cut and paste text with your mouse" for GPM. however, if I was cutting text out of my tty's I'd probably start freaking out. [02:33] guess copy & paste would be a better description...:) [02:33] yeah, I never thought of it too much [02:34] Action: fatalnix starts screaming at the conversation he just erased in irrsi! [02:34] too late for that. [02:34] Check it out, Mr. Roboto, this will make installing Slackware faster. Guarenteed. [02:36] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:37] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] fatalnix, /clear and /quit working for ya?...:D [02:38] no I thought I accidently typed qyit, changed tty's instead, started up irssi and found it tty 5 had irssi running here and was pretty much like.. crap. [02:39] ahh [02:39] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [02:40] hmm, I noticed that mt is now known as mt-st, has it chanegd or something? [02:40] I thought it was just mt before. [02:40] the radeon X drivers actually are performing much better then the ATI drivers [02:40] Xgates: what card? [02:40] LOL stupid ati drivers [02:40] hd3200 on alptop [02:40] on a laptop.... [02:41] ah yeah see shader support isnt finishe dfor radeonHD for my cards [02:41] so its super slow in a game like nexuiz unless I set all of that crap off. [02:41] fatalnix, mt-st? for tape drives,right? [02:41] yes [02:41] I have magnetic tapes :) [02:41] but it didnt work on it [02:42] my tape drive ran off of a 25 pin serial cable so [02:43] for me I just get lag when rolling a window up and down with the mousewheel and when moving from across the virtual desktops the windows lag [02:43] well I have an x1300 and x1650 [02:43] its r5x [02:43] actually watching avi in VLC is much better on the X driver [02:43] the ati drivers had some slight tearing [02:43] I can't use the officual drivers [02:44] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-142.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] anyhow I'd like to stick to the X drivers but when I log out of Openbox I get a msg like this: [02:44] error setting mtrr inappropriate ioctl for device 25 [02:44] so that worrys me about any hardware damage [02:45] my understanding is an updated version of X should help that, but I wonder if updating X while I'm running 13.1 to the current if it will be stable and not break anything [02:45] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [02:46] well it wont damage your card I can tell you that much [02:46] not really possible. [02:46] what the heck is that error all about? [02:46] the white screen of death can [02:46] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] I think that's A pci thing actually [02:47] mfillpot (mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:47] I cant remember [02:47] don't depend on me givin you the right answwer for that lol [02:47] I just found this on pastebin, it's how it looks for me too: [02:47] error setting MTRR (base = 0xfb000000, size = 0x00e00000, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25) [02:47] I think I get those myself so [02:47] or something simular [02:47] it's not a fatal error [02:48] got that on an old thinkpad [02:48] I'm installing onto a thinkpad [02:48] love these things [02:48] it's a T60 [02:48] last IBM ever made [02:49] yeah, solid machines - i installed on a T600X [02:49] I bought it because it wass fullscreen instead of widescreen [02:49] fatalnix, ok...was 'bout to ask you if it was IBM or Lenovo..:) [02:49] and that it was one of the strongest thinkpads [02:49] its a hybrid tbh. [02:49] it was during the merge. [02:50] it still has the IBM logo's, and IBM was selling it iirc [02:50] i had X troubles with the neomagic driver, so I grabbed one from fedora that had a couple of patches and it worked [02:50] (still get that mtrr error though) [02:50] but it says lenovo in the bios haha [02:50] so you can see where they were transitioning [02:51] T61 was a fullbreed lenovo [02:51] but it was also widescreen and I kind of hate them for it because thinkpads are not for entertainment [02:52] fatalnix, crazy letterboxin' ? [02:52] Action: fatalnix deselects udev - "won't be needing that..." [02:52] yeah I hate widescreen. [02:52] I'm a programmer. [02:52] well I don't see any mtrr error in Xorg log or anywhere for that matter in the logs so I find that odd I get an error msg but nothing reported in the logs [02:52] errors make me nervous LOL [02:53] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:54] plus thinkpads are so much smaller. my friend had a 17" T41 or whatever it was, the thing was gigantic [02:54] fullscreen [02:54] was so cool [02:54] well from what I can tell cat /proc/mtrr is fine --- http://pastebin.com/4MsgEm3t [02:55] I got an emachines e627 I got at black friday last year for $200 and it runs great [02:55] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:55] 15" [02:56] is anyone in here using the latest eclipse slackbuild? [02:56] not I [02:56] ew. [02:56] fatalnix, what's the "ThinkVantage" button for? [02:57] thinkpad button. it serves as the enter bios button "It's the most retarted name change ever" but it serves as an extra button for X, for example a mod button :D [02:57] fatalnix, ok [02:57] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[03:19] PenPerkInc (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:19] it fixed itself after 10 secconds or so. my desktop doesnt, so I hate it when it happens [03:20] oh, Slackware works as a PERFECT Xen guest btw [03:20] :) [03:20] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:22] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431547.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:24] if I have 4gb ram why does dmesg say ---> 2695MB HIGHMEM available. [03:24] shouldn't that say the full amount of 4gb available? [03:24] HIGHMEM != RAM [03:24] I know what it equals [03:25] I'm saying I have 4gb of ram so shouldn't it say that is the amount available? [03:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_memory [03:26] its my fathers birthday today.. hmm. Not that anyone cares lol just thought of it. I ought to go to bed soon, its like 3 or something [03:26] -+* [03:26] Action: slava_dp wishes fatalfather a happy birthday [03:28] lol [03:28] I have no idea how old he is [03:28] mine was last week lol [03:28] I believe 43 [03:28] my birthdays on the 11th.. I'l be 22....... ...... [03:28] years [03:28] I guess I'm old enough to be your father too [03:28] LOL [03:29] 22 what a KID [03:29] haha [03:29] stunix (1000@85.19.183.21) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:29] isn't it past your beddy time? [03:29] :P [03:29] lol? [03:29] j/k [03:29] ;p [03:29] I have been going to bed at like 4 am [03:29] or 5 [03:29] kidding, nice pun [03:29] errr not good for the body [03:29] not something to be proud of [03:30] heh [03:30] its not awful if you get at leats 8 hours of sleep a day [03:30] (and a dark room to sleep in) [03:30] the time frame for the sleep matters though. [03:31] you get a much better sleep from 22 to 6, than from 2 to 10 [03:31] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:32] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:33] chat servers due the 30th, I've been staying up late all month working on it like every day against a few other people in a "private" competition [03:33] fatalnix: HEY did you compile your own kernel? [03:33] I think I found the issue with the mtrr [03:33] you need a kernel with PAE enabled (Physical Address Extension) [03:33] Xgates: I often end up doing so, and yes I know that [03:33] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [03:34] ahhh ok I left it out of mine LOL [03:34] look up PAE, its a way of accessing more than 3 gigs of memory, thats why XP wont recognize more than 3 gigs anyways [03:34] I think it doesnt [03:34] friend of mine told me it didnt for his so I imagined that was why [03:34] No consumer version of Windows enables PAE in a way that makes accessing more than 4GB possible [03:35] I only have 1 GB or ram [03:35] my desktop has 1.3 or so [03:35] upgraded it from 700 megs [03:37] but yes, you have two ways of getting that high of memory in any kernel on x86 if I recall, one is PAE, and the other is using a GDT I think.. I'll have to look that up to make sure I'm right though [03:37] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:37] fatalnix: do you know where PAE is in the kernel? Also isn't there a section for intel and amd iommu [03:37] I remember having to enable a high memory option to get access to all my RAM when I had 1GB. No idea if it's still necessary or not anymore [03:37] its probvably in the general section near the top [03:38] of menuconfig [03:38] yeah I'm looking [03:38] where the processor settings, etc are [03:38] if you need PAE, consider slackware64. [03:38] no, definately not nessesary [03:38] PAE is a performance hit. [03:39] hit, meaning penalty :) [03:39] lol [03:39] Nick change: danixland -> danix [03:39] I dont see how it could be [03:39] meh. yes, meaning penalty. [03:39] it's a simple few sets of assembly instructions [03:39] more code to run through all the time [03:39] yeah, but its so little [03:39] a few percent iirc [03:39] like not even a page [03:39] iirc [03:40] fatalnix: It's a modern spin on the old bank switching techniques 8 bit computers used to access more than 64K RAM. It's less 2^36 address and more 16*(2^32) [03:40] a page of assembly code I wouldnt think would matter [03:40] ic. [03:41] heh [03:41] well I don't see it in the kernel [03:41] back then 1MB was HIGH memory [03:41] :D [03:41] not long after that [03:42] apt-get install slackware is almost finished. [03:42] fatalnix: Knowing teh way Linux kernel development works, the high memory setting I had to enable to see my whole 1GB hasn't been made unnecessary so much as been forced on adn the option taken away in modern kernels... [03:43] I see [03:43] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.192) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:43] Xgates, are you using slackware or slackware64? slackware64 does not need/have PAE. [03:44] 32 [03:44] ahh I see it you have to turn on ---> High Memory Support (64GB) [03:44] you know what would be cool? [03:44] icebergs? [03:44] loading the kernel on a GPU and using standard physical RAM for ring 3. [03:45] GPUs don't work that way [03:45] it would be cool you know that! [03:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] if you didnt use the gpu you could find a way to load half of it into video ram and use a wrapper kernel in physical memory [03:51] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [03:53] anyone know how to uhide iommu in the kernel cause it's not showing up in there? [03:54] sucks [03:54] huludesktop requires flash, but flash 64-bit support sucks. installed compat32, but huludesktop says libflashplayer.so is not installed [03:54] someone sucks and it aint me [03:55] Xgates, search for iommu using '/', and see it's deps. [03:56] yeah I'm looking at that already [03:56] ah - libssl3, libsmime3, libnss, libplds4, libnspr4 not found on libflashplayer [03:57] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Nick change: Oak -> alreadygone [03:58] where the heck is X86_64 [03:58] hmm [03:59] darn having a heck of time finding stuff in here [04:01] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [04:02] ok - added /usr/lib/seamonkey-2.0.4 (from compat32 seamonkey) into the ld.so.conf checks and it's fine now [04:02] got my huludesktop back (using 32-bit compat, 32-bit flash, and 32-bit huludesktop) [04:02] sucks having to work around adobe's suckage on 64-bit [04:05] stunix (1000@85.19.183.21) joined ##slackware. [04:07] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:10] pingback fatalnix [04:11] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [04:15] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:31] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [04:33] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [04:33] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:33] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [04:33] hello all when i configure pppoe-setup need i write dns or only username and password? [04:40] ne7work, try and see? [04:41] j0z_ (unix@189.58.24.178.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:41] j0z_ (unix@189.58.24.178.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [04:41] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [04:41] slava_dp [04:42] before i don't write dns [04:42] now i can't make pppoe connection [04:42] :( [04:47] Morln [04:48] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:49] Action: slava_dp waves to Zordrak [04:53] Nick change: alreadygone -> Oak [04:54] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [04:54] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-0202.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [04:55] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [04:56] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431547.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [04:56] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431547.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:59] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.146) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:05] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:06] user0 (~user0@adsl-99-141-240-161.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [05:07] hi [05:09] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:10] . 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[05:19] TClayton (~tony@184.1.65.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:20] i am using wicd to connect to both my wireless network and wired network. Wired is not a problem but when I connect to the router via wireless (it says it is connected and has a valid IP address) it won't load web sites through a browser and I cannot ping externally. Any ideas or related articles? [05:21] TClayton (~tony@184.1.65.8) joined ##slackware. [05:21] show me your routing table [05:21] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-147-69.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:21] does dhcp run on the wireless nic? [05:22] oh you say you get a valid ip on the wireless, so never mind. just for kicks, what is your valid ip assigned? [05:22] 192.168.1.2 [05:22] ok so it is good. didn't mean to doubt you. [05:22] what's in /etc/resolv.conf ? [05:23] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-120-78.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:23] /sbin/route please [05:23] sorry slava_dp , getting it now [05:23] mancha, he cannot ping :) [05:23] pejman (pejman@188.34.71.111) left ##slackware. [05:23] you try to "ping www.google.com" with no dns :) [05:23] godling (~wmd@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [05:24] where should i be pasting this information slava_dp ? [05:24] wherever you feel like. codepad.org is nice. [05:24] Aidar-Nagato (admin@94.41.27.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [05:26] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.27.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:27] slava_dp, http://codepad.org/Wj9aCs01 [05:28] I had to connect to wireless before doing /sbin/route and when I did I was unable to load pages etc.. So copied route table when connected to wireless and am back on wired now [05:28] looks good. now /etc/resolv.conf [05:29] but he can't ping! :) [05:29] will have to D/C again and lose everything when I connect to wireless [05:29] One second [05:29] mancha, well he used the wrong naming. "I can't ping external" does not relate to dns in any way. I would try to ping 8.8.8.8, for instance. THAN check dns. [05:30] s/than/then/ [05:31] I just upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1. I am using LUKS. I have successfully managed to create an initrd and boot into the new kernel, but my other partitions are not being mounted (I have them all setup in /etc/crypttab). [05:31] http://codepad.org/Sln7yMID [05:31] as a result of /var not being mounted most of my init scripts are crying profusely [05:32] slobad23, probably router misconfiguration. your paste looks fine. [05:33] I am not using LVM -- all of the encrypted partitions are seperate. Why would they not be unlocked and mounted at boot? [05:33] slava_dp, why would wired work without a problem and wireless not work? I can connect to it (briefly) through the wireless card [05:34] changing device names? [05:35] mancha: they are all the same [05:35] mancha: I can mount them manually after boot no problem [05:35] well, after fscking of course [05:36] slobad23, don't know. try updating router firmware or something :-) [05:38] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:39] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:40] mancha: you are referring to the /dev/sd* names, correct? [05:40] (in reference to changing device names, I mean) [05:41] I have been using /dev/sd* for awhile now so I didn't need to change them for 13.1 [05:42] did you merge all the .new files? just checking [05:42] some file under /etc needs to exist [05:43] slava_dp: not all of them. that might be it. [05:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:43] (i forget what) [05:43] trhodes: oh? have you experienced a similar problem? [05:43] Lana`thel (~kvirc@ppp92-100-94-80.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:43] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:43] Lana`thel kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: troll ban [05:43] slackpkg new-config [05:43] godling: no, but my dad did [05:43] :P [05:43] I thought that the syntax somewhere may have changed. [05:45] for USELVM="yes" trhodes? [05:45] mancha: yeah, lvm not luks [05:45] what is the advantage of using a generic kernel as opposed to the base installed one? [05:45] what is a generic kernel? [05:46] godling, i am just guessing, i have no idea, tbh [05:46] a vgchange -a y after boot brought up all the mapped devices, so it was just something in the boot scripts iirc [05:46] I'm not using LVM [05:46] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [05:46] luks + dm ? [05:47] user0, less memory usage, faster performance. [05:47] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [05:47] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:47] ah, ty [05:47] user0, try /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh [05:48] i've been on the README's for a while. [05:48] user0, also see http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [05:48] to build a generic one without using initrd [05:49] trhodes: I am using luks without lvm [05:49] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:51] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-133-95.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:51] I'm rather new to linux, so you'll have to excuse the questions. is there an advantage to use initrd? [05:52] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:52] user0: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/30/the-evil-of-initrd/ [05:53] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [05:53] ty [05:57] lol [05:58] new versions of rc.[M|S] :P [06:00] and you had hard-coded stuff in the old ones? [06:00] the only thing I edited in the old rc.S was line 84 where it gave me a "too many arguments" error [06:00] which it is giving me again [06:01] jan__ (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [06:01] it was working with or without that error before [06:01] thats the only diff in rc.S? [06:01] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [06:01] I don't know, it is still fscking my partitions [06:02] I was planning on looking though [06:02] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.249.232) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:03] mancha: it complains about too many arguments when there are spaces in the luks password [06:03] (line 84 is the cryptsetup.static line) [06:03] godling, that was supposed to be fixed in 13.1 [06:03] slava_dp: apparently it was not [06:04] I just overwrote all the old config files with the new ones [06:04] and I got the error [06:04] ah interesting. i see the bash code now, yeah it isn't tight. [06:05] j0z_ (unix@201.47.13.89.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:05] j0z_ (unix@201.47.13.89.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [06:05] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:05] Action: mancha jots down...godling's pw has at least one space in it.... [06:05] Action: mancha closes secret notepad [06:05] :P [06:06] good luck with that :) [06:06] don't be too confident. i got mad skillz [06:06] with a z, even [06:06] that is k-r4d [06:07] oh wow, it's almost 4:30 am [06:07] I should probably eat something soon [06:08] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:08] one day my stomach is going to pack up and leave because I always forget to eat when I'm glued to my computer [06:09] Never mind your brain bailing out because you forgot to sleep :-) [06:10] haha usually [06:10] I actually did get some sleep though [06:10] I upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1 and when the kernel upgraded and lilo ran I saw some warnings [06:11] I thought "oh boy, this is going to be fun" [06:11] then I put my laptop aside and went to sleep :P [06:13] did you read the warnings? sometimes they mean something [06:13] mcury (~mcury@189.24.50.72) joined ##slackware. [06:14] Skywise: yeah, they were for something unrelated. I knew what they meant. [06:15] I fixed that with only a minor hitch (I was silly and assumed that the new kernel had ext2 support compiled in, which it does not) [06:15] doh [06:16] it's habit from when I used to compile my own kernel all the time. I'd compile in support for the fs I had root on but leave most everything else modular [06:17] thats what i do, but i rarely upgrade unless i have a specific issue [06:18] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-152-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [06:18] so, i'm looking at the kernel menuconfig, and i've got a 64bit processor, but using the 32 bit system. which one should i select? [06:19] user0: which one do you want to use? [06:19] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [06:19] godling: what do you mean? [06:20] i only have the 32bit libraries [06:20] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [06:20] then what makes sense? :) [06:21] well, it would make sense to use the 32b processor family, if i knew how a kernel work [06:22] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.249.232) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Skywise: there are some alsa fixes in the new kernel that I really wanted to check out [06:22] user0, just select your processor family. your kernel will be 32-bit whatever you select. [06:22] Skywise: my laptop uses this crap intel hda controller and I have been having issues with it [06:22] slava_dp, just wanted to come back and say thanks for the wireless help. Turns out (from forum checking) that it was all to do with firmware issues for ralink rt2860. Sorted now and working fine :-) [06:23] my digital output switch off then back on at the start of every song I play... this makes small pop and I lose the first 1 sec of audio... any know how to fix this? I'm using alsa intel hd audio realtek [06:23] slava_dp: TY [06:23] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.150) joined ##slackware. [06:23] it switches off then back on... my receiver reacts by switching to an analog source but then switches back the digital right away [06:23] slobad23, good that it works. [06:24] foobarz: I am using intel hda. There's some documentation in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/alsa/ for it [06:24] foobarz: basically it's just arguments you pass to the module when you load it. you have to fiddle about with it [06:25] hang on I will find the filenames for you [06:25] sorry, the directory is actually /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa [06:26] and the files are the ones that start with HD-Audio [06:26] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:26] Nick change: usus12ja1i -> usus12jari [06:29] godling: I just looked at the HD-Audio.txt file.. it mentions the power save as a possible problem, but I have the power save set to 0 in my sound.conf file [06:29] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.198.203) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:30] it is weird, the digital output goes off and back on whenever I start playing something... if I just hit stop and am not playing anything, the digital signal is still up [06:30] foobarz: I am not using the realtek codec so I can't help you more than that really [06:31] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:32] foobarz: I'm using the stac9228 codec and have my own issues lol [06:33] godling: what issue do you have? [06:33] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [06:33] Apparently one of which is typing like a 15 year old girl. :P [06:33] foobarz: If I turn my volume down past a certain level (about 22%) it cuts off completely. [06:34] very annoying [06:34] If I go deaf I'm going to sue the kernel developers. ;P [06:35] glwt [06:35] godling: is it a digital output? [06:36] Woop. "As our way of thanking you for your positive contributions to slashdot, you are eligible to disable advertising" [06:37] That would be the advertising that Adblock Plus already blocks. [06:37] haha [06:38] foobarz: every output does it [06:38] peter23_ (c1574d16@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.87.77.22) joined ##slackware. [06:38] just now you don't even have to download the ads [06:38] and yeah, it cleans up the interface slightly [06:38] Good day. Can i slacware install from ftp? [06:38] I was using privoxy to block ads but it was screwing up the html [06:38] peter23_, yes [06:39] ananke: afaik abp prevents downloading them also [06:39] I'm going to switch back to my laptop. [06:39] godling (~wmd@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Quit: return 255; [06:41] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:41] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [06:41] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:41] mancha, slava_dp: were you guys still itnerested in the rc.S diff? [06:42] alisonken1noc: As? Can you one good page, becose i dos'n find one good page with install in google. [06:43] what is the proper way to start the esd sound daemon? [06:44] jan__ (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:44] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-120-78.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:45] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-120-78.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:45] alisonken1noc: slackFTP is it? [06:46] peter23_: Try not to use ftp.slackware.com. [06:46] peter23_: There are lots of mirror sites [06:46] peter23_: you get install disk 1, run the installer as normal and when it says "where do you want to install slackware from" you point it at an FTP site. [06:46] simple is an understatement [06:47] we just had to wait 10 years for it :) [06:47] but i am glad slack finally got support for that [06:48] it's very useful ananke [06:48] godling: very much so, i'm in full agreement on that. [06:48] godling: Zordrak: Fank you. [06:48] I haven't installed Slackware via ftp. Can you configure it to install current? [06:49] I don't see why not, but you never know. [06:49] godling: so long as your installer is the one from -current [06:49] as long as the ftp server has a -current setup, should be able to [06:50] nice [06:50] //quit [06:50] /quit [06:50] errordeveloper (~barby@host86-162-7-186.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:50] yeah. [06:53] quitting's hard :> [06:53] TClayton (~tony@184.1.65.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:54] esd is using a lot of CPU, why? [06:54] it's esd [06:54] Does anyone else occasionally get crippling extreme pain down both their arms when they sneeze? [06:54] :) [06:54] Zordrak, see a doctor. [06:54] Zordrak: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=138890 [06:54] it sounds like something to do with your nerves [06:55] Zordrak, yeah, everyone does don't they? oh wait... nope, just you... (2nd) seeing a doctor [06:55] I concure with slava_dp [06:55] *concur [06:55] i had an operation on my neck before and when I sneeze it hurts like hell... sneezing used to be such a pleasant experience [06:56] slobad23: getting old is awesome, isn't it? [06:56] (hurting in places you didn't know you had)++ [06:56] sux [06:56] godling, im 23 :-) [06:56] doctor wont do shit unless its really often [06:57] slobad23: you're not getting any younger. ;) [06:58] I know... it kind of all went downhill from 22.5 to be honest [06:58] lol [06:58] mcury (~mcury@189.24.50.72) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:58] i hit my peak at about 15 [06:58] its been prettly slopey since [06:58] how depressing [06:59] coffee solves everything... *slurp* [06:59] InTel_BG (~intel@95.43.3.175) joined ##slackware. [07:00] Zordrak, have you manual therapists in England? you may just need you neck or backbone put in place. [07:00] averga eage of techies is 31.2 anyway [07:00] that's microserfs... what is the average age of a linux user? [07:01] slava_dp: *everything* goes through the GP. If he doesnt refer you you dont get shit. Even with private care. I have private medical with a 100 GBP excess... but to get treated i need a referral from my GP. [07:02] hire thugs to threaten him [07:02] Zordrak, I know how you feel about UK medical referral systems, it's a pain! Intermittant symptoms (like on the computer I guess) just never get fixed because it's always working when you get an expert to take a look [07:02] ;P [07:02] peter23_ (c1574d16@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.87.77.22) left ##slackware. [07:02] i'll do it! [07:02] word [07:02] mancha is the new channel doctor [07:02] mancha, will threaten doctor for money [07:02] oh [07:02] you'll do *that* [07:02] meh, im more concerned about getting referred for analysis on a suspected hiatus hernia. [07:03] mancha: are you very physically imposing? [07:03] Action: Zordrak is [07:03] i'm a very unimposing 6' 5" [07:03] he's 500 pounds of muscle [07:03] and here I am only 6'1" [07:04] Action: Zordrak is shaven-head, 6' 3", 17st and has arms the size of your neck :) [07:05] Zordrak: I have a very small neck [07:05] lol [07:05] InTel_BG (intel@95.43.3.175) left ##slackware. [07:05] lol [07:06] oh.. and a Van Dyke to boot :) [07:06] Action: godling pictures someone with arms as long as a neck [07:07] Action: Zordrak clarifies girth, not length :) [07:08] What do you mean by Van Dyke? [07:08] beard [07:08] google [07:08] images [07:09] http://www.flyingfists.org/archives/mandrake%2Bvan%2Bdyke.jpg [07:09] do you have a soul patch Zordrak? [07:09] That really detracts from the intimidation factor. [07:10] its an "evil spock" [07:10] but a liitle shorter :) [07:10] slobad23 (~slobad23@92.17.249.232) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:16] slava_dp knows what Im talking about... he has me on LinkedIn ;) [07:17] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:18] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [07:20] kde visual effects kill my X as soon as I open a window. [07:21] must be an intel driver bug. [07:23] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vpjqzfqrvfzitfik) joined ##slackware. [07:24] asamoah (~caio@190.244.44.222) joined ##slackware. [07:25] slava_dp: which intel chipset are you using? [07:26] i3 builtin card [07:26] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) [07:27] I've got the GM965/GL960 [07:28] i3 is mouth-watering [07:29] I did a presentation on Nehalem for a computer architecture class. [07:29] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:30] slava_dp: which i3 are you using? [07:31] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [07:31] godling, Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz [07:32] ah, clarkdale [07:32] cool [07:32] you even know them by core names :) [07:32] yeah I fell in love when I did the presentation [07:33] it's pretty fast. much faster than my other core2duo T7500 in the laptop. [07:34] To be honest I only know a few of them and will probably forget those eventually :P [07:35] slava_dp: I have a t5270 in this laptop [07:35] it's awesome [07:38] slava_dp: have you seen the gulftown? that's the one I mostly focused on in my presentation [07:38] it's insane [07:40] Just read wikipedia, appears to be an insane one indeed [07:40] yeah it's way expensive too [07:40] $1000+ [07:40] user0 (~user0@adsl-99-141-240-161.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:41] $1000 is the standard price for highest-end processors. P4 Extreme Edition was $1000, same for Athlon 64 Black Edition or whatever that one was called. [07:42] That's how much I paid for this laptop. :) [07:42] I thought I was being extravagant then. [07:43] I think one of the coolest things about the Nehalem processors are the power-saving features [07:43] s/one/some/ [07:44] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru expired. [07:44] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:44] I was looking for that report and I guess it's on my desktop's hd so I can't find hte name of this feature I wanted to talk about. [07:44] Intel basically divided the chip into different zones that can be turned off when they aren't being used [07:44] I thought that was cool [07:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.172.125) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:46] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.156.233) joined ##slackware. [07:46] user0 (~user0@99.141.240.161) joined ##slackware. [07:46] damnit [07:47] exit [07:47] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [07:47] jesus christ java.. why l/et me create a new directory in your shitty "Chooser" if i cant give ith a name or rename it?! [07:48] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [07:48] oh wait.. i found the magical easter egg that allows me to do the crazy insane task of renaming [07:49] It's awesome how X automatically listens for TCP connectios [07:49] *connections [07:49] huh? [07:49] slack defaults to -nolisten tcp [07:49] or it used to.. havent *actually* checked recently [07:49] it doesn't [07:49] I just had to change it [07:49] I always have to change it :P [07:50] well shiat.. im sure it didnt used to be commented out [07:50] yeah.. 12.2 its there [07:53] Zordrak: where are you looking? [07:53] (what file, I mean [07:53] ) [07:53] thanks for the help earlier, got my kernel compiled and running nicely [07:56] godling: /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc [07:57] Ah, I see. [07:58] I don't use kdm. [07:58] kk [07:58] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [08:01] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624182103] [08:03] tsccof (~highcompa@bruna.gramadosite.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:04] hi.. does anyone here use DotProject? if so, is it safe? no back doors? [08:04] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:05] latest news "dhotproject.net hacked" heh [08:10] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left ##slackware. [08:13] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.13.89.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:13] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.13.89.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [08:13] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:14] DallaRosa (~dalla@softbank126108005088.bbtec.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [08:18] asarch (~asarch@189.188.145.217) joined ##slackware. [08:21] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:22] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [08:23] ariarat (~ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) joined ##slackware. [08:25] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Quit: That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. [08:26] asamoah (~caio@190.244.44.222) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:27] the_axis (~the_axis@32.171.254.37) joined ##slackware. [08:29] when using google chrome to upload images to a web site, the program crashes when the file requester appears. slackware 13.1, chrome 5.0.378.86 from slackbuild. any ideas how to resolve? [08:32] asamoah (~caio@190.244.44.222) joined ##slackware. [08:32] Would it be of use to upload the images in a single packed file? [08:33] Only think I could think of, being a newb and all. [08:34] happens when using a photo sharing site like image cave or even happens when attaching images to gmail. I should try non image files and see if its only images or any tyoe of file [08:36] Also, I think there might be a kB size or pixel resolution limit for the one upload. [08:36] the_axis: have you tried running it from the terminal and seeing what error messages are produced? [08:37] godling: not for this issue.. good point, let me try that, thanks [08:39] segmantation fault [08:39] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.19) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:39] \o/ [08:39] slaker (~slaker@cpc5-seve18-2-0-cust609.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:41] slaker (~slaker@cpc5-seve18-2-0-cust609.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:41] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:41] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.2) joined ##slackware. [08:42] the_axis: you could try compiling chromium's code yourself and making a package using makepkg [08:42] It's pretty big [08:42] the_axis: that would probably fix the segmentation fault error [08:42] slaker (~slaker@cpc5-seve18-2-0-cust609.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:43] NaCl: how big? [08:43] extracted source for everything was ~700 MB, last I checked [08:43] so it is giant [08:43] lmao [08:44] ok, thanks for the tip tsccof, that might be fun to try.. [08:44] the_axis: look at their build instructions [08:45] slaker (~slaker@cpc5-seve18-2-0-cust609.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:45] the_axis: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/network/google-chrome/5.0.375.53/ [08:45] tried this one? [08:45] works perfectly for me [08:46] yes,, that one worked fine.. i wand and upgraded to this newer version that i found via sbopkg.. then the problem started.. [08:46] did you read the SlackBuild? [08:46] does it convert the package from a deb or rpm? [08:47] not sure [08:47] it converts the deb [08:50] I would either downgrade, compile it and make a package using makepkg, or convert it from the rpm build using rpm2tgz [08:50] ok thanks for your time guys.. i'll hunt around a bit more for a fix. can always go back to the other version, or try to complile the monster [08:50] what's so great about chrome? [08:50] I haven't used it. [08:51] it handles javascript REALLY smoothly [08:51] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) joined ##slackware. [08:51] the_axis: have you tried redownloading the deb and running the slackbuild again? [08:51] Action: slava_dp doesn't like chrome. [08:51] and they say having a separated thread for each tab is really useful for preventing crashing [08:51] since you may kill a thread and the broken tab is gone [08:51] I read that chrome likes to call home [08:52] no i haven't jgeboski that would be easy to try [08:52] but chrome does use more RAM than firefox in case you do open many tabs [08:52] thanks [08:52] the_axis: I'd just give that a quick whirl [08:53] shit, I just accidentally remove openoffice. :/ [08:53] oh well [08:54] godling: it is fast to reconvert it in case you kept the rpms, though [08:54] I'm not too worried about it. [08:55] The dev firefox build is reportedly faster than the previous version [08:55] I didn't mean to uninstall terminus fonts though :X [08:55] NaCl, they always say that ;) [08:55] ...true [08:55] chrome is over a second faster than firefox [08:56] did you guys see the new Android 2.2 is about 450% faster than 2.1? [08:56] SO FAHST [08:56] LMAO [08:56] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [08:56] Interesting quit message [08:57] I tried to look at the new Android but I blinked and I missed it tsccof [08:58] rofl [08:58] crap, my fonts are all effed up now [08:59] yay, now they're not. :P [08:59] terminus is really nice [08:59] ariarat (ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) left ##slackware. [09:00] laters [09:00] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [09:01] pejman (~pejman@188.34.71.111) joined ##slackware. [09:02] pejman (pejman@188.34.71.111) left ##slackware. [09:03] NightTiger (~derekm@ottawa-hs-64-26-171-99.s-ip.magma.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:05] sluckxz (sluckxz@anapnea.net) left irc: K-Lined [09:06] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:09] I am developing a packaging management tool similar to FreeBSD's ports system [09:09] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:10] just what the world needs, another package manager [09:10] I am having fun [09:10] :) [09:10] besides, only I use it [09:10] :) [09:11] the_axis (the_axis@32.171.254.37) left ##slackware. [09:11] it does a better job then slackbuilds + sbopkg [09:11] than* [09:11] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:11] pejman (~pejman@188.34.71.111) joined ##slackware. [09:12] good for you - have fun [09:12] thank yuo [09:12] you* [09:12] is there a standard config file for saving static routes or "ip route" commands? i lose my static routes after every "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart". rc.local is not good idea, beacause it's not run automaticly after "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart" [09:12] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [09:15] Can anyone point me to some slackware centric instruction on getting mysql setup and going? (I've had a bad go of it a couple times before and just want to avoid earlier mistakes.) [09:17] you don't need one, the mysql installing instructions should work fine, slackware doesn't use custom paths or configurations [09:17] I see we've moved from 5.0 to 5.1 now, is that going to make anything any easier? (Was just working with a 13.0 system and never got going with mysql, I'm thinking I'll just replace it with this one or go on with the upgrade on it but... just wondering ) [09:18] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:18] I don't know why I'm having such a time with it. [09:19] the differences between 5.0 and 5.1 don't make things easier for the user, they just add features [09:21] ping 192.168.1.213 [09:21] o.O [09:22] Sorry... wrong screen. [09:22] Was looking for my laptop. [09:25] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:26] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:27] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:31] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] My problem is that I can not get to first base at all. I sometimes finally do but am mostly just trying to figure out how to get into mysql to begin with. I seem to be blocked out due to not having valid password, am not able to change it or...??? [09:34] usr13, read comments in /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld. [09:34] slackware has documentation in very weird places sometimes, like, it's init scripts. [09:36] glarb_ (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:37] slava_dp: So I should do passwd mysql ? [09:38] huh? [09:38] did you setup the mysql database, like the comments tell you? [09:40] slava_dp: Yes, but it also says: "# Note that the mysql user must exist in /etc/passwd" [09:40] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [09:40] and did you check, does the mysql user exist? [09:42] So what do I do when asked for Password: ? [09:42] No maptter what I put in it says: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) [09:42] this is just sad. can you not use a password at all? [09:42] mysql -u root -p [09:42] omit -p [09:43] mysql -u root [09:43] ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO [09:43] so you've set up a password previously. good job. [09:44] Might be a good job if I had the password! :) [09:44] if you clean up /var/lib/mysql and install the database one more time, you will have a clean password again. [09:45] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-133-95.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:45] just google lost root password to mysql [09:45] slava_dp: Delete it? rm /var/lib/mysql/* [09:45] it will show you how to start mysql with --skip-grant-tables and then you can set the password [09:45] well if he's just started he can as well remove the database and start all over. [09:45] but i'm not gonna type all that out myself [09:46] or he never initialized the databases [09:46] could be too [09:46] asarch (~asarch@189.188.145.217) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:46] mysqladmin -u root password ******* [09:46] segate has released an external 3tb drive for $250 [09:46] mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed [09:46] error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) [09:46] you're not really doing things right [09:47] usr13, we know that [09:47] Skywise: Obviously :( [09:47] asarch (~asarch@189.188.145.217) joined ##slackware. [09:47] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:48] usr13, either do what Skywise said regarding the password or remove the tables and init the db again. [09:51] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:51] This works: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html [09:51] apparently [09:52] memorize your password better next time [09:53] Now if I can figure out how to stop /usr/bin/mysqld_safe ??? just kill the PID? [09:53] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:53] peter23 (c1574d16@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.87.77.22) joined ##slackware. [09:53] slava_dp: I never created a password. [09:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] do me an ls -l /var/lib/mysql please. [09:54] slava_dp: I have MANY passwords, I KNOW how to save / remember passwords, I usually do a pretty good job of it but, just mysql eludes me somehow. [09:55] ^/wc [09:55] pejman (pejman@188.34.71.111) left ##slackware. [09:55] sbsdoze (spookz@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:55] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:56] slava_dp: http://pastebin.ca/1891796 [09:56] jan_ (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [09:57] well looks like you've initialized the db and set a password previously. so just reset it and let's finish this :) [09:57] The next step in the process says: /etc/init.d/mysql stop [09:57] So how does that translate to my system? Just kill the pid? [09:57] where do slackware startup scripts reside? [09:58] /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [09:58] see? you know the answer yourself. [09:59] /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld stop has no effect [09:59] root 2878 0.0 0.1 2856 1412 pts/5 S 08:42 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables [09:59] on ^^^^^^ [09:59] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] lol [10:00] just kill it, it's a custom mysqld, it wasn't launched from the rc script, you launched it, so you terminate it. [10:00] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [10:00] why you add the d? [10:00] d == daemon [10:01] because that is the name of the file, "rc.mysqld [10:01] " [10:02] but it does come from 'mysql daemon' [10:02] but the server is what'll kill the daemon [10:02] slava_dp: So kill the pid? [10:02] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:02] or....? [10:02] or....? [10:02] as root, mysqladmin shutdown [10:02] /etc/init.d/mysql stop [10:03] user0, wtf [10:03] http://pastebin.ca/1891800 [10:04] phe: http://pastebin.ca/1891801 [10:05] usr13, just kill it, will you? [10:07] Ok, that works. Thanks [10:09] kill pid [10:09] oop [10:10] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-152-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:10] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:10] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:13] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-162-202.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:15] user0 (~user0@99.141.240.161) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:17] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:19] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.78.190) joined ##slackware. [10:19] hm, what exactly do i need to dl from 32bit tree to make my slack64 multilib? [10:20] it's listing in the multilib guide [10:20] peter23 (c1574d16@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.87.77.22) left ##slackware. [10:20] stu_, alienBOB has packages already made - try those instead. googling things like "slackware multilib" or 'alienbob multilib' would probably reveal them [10:21] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [10:21] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [10:22] hm, slackware.com/~alien/multilib just gives me the .txt file [10:22] scroll down :) [10:23] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:23] Any of you guys had trouble with blueman? I'm running into the following issue: http://bit.ly/b3GDsb [10:23] did you not read it? you'll need to.. and if you did, you'd see the files at the bottom [10:26] alkos333: I'd check that out as I too have probs with bluetooth but I won't click on that link. URL shorteners must burn in hell :E [10:28] johndee: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/issues-with-blueman-814403/ [10:29] i don't like shorteners either cause you have no idea what its linking to [10:29] okay i am downloading the .txz's and will upgradepkg later, but what about slack32's package tree? where do i get it? do i need to download 32bit's installer discs cos i don't have em. [10:30] stu_: read the instructions [10:30] the page contains all of the necessary libs. anything else you want you have to download [10:30] http://freakinghugeurl.com/ [10:30] \o/ [10:32] when i saw is.gd on cnn, i realized the end of the world is near [10:32] :D [10:32] alkos333: Ty [10:32] Nope, not this kind of problem [10:33] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [10:36] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [10:36] johndee: yeah, i'm having issues with blueman here. [10:37] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:37] well i've reached the part of massconvert32.sh -i /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/, but i don't have a slack32 tree/directory for that command to work, do i re-direct that command to wherever i downloaded my .txz's to? [10:37] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Client Quit [10:38] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [10:38] stu_, out of curiosity, why not use the pre-generated packages? [10:38] thrice`, you mean pre-generated packages as in gcc4.4.4.txz ones on his site? [10:38] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [10:39] godling (~nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [10:39] failday today [10:39] no way, slava_dp [10:39] yay [10:39] oh, maybe he doesn't provide stuff like he did with 13.0 :( nevermind [10:40] today is awesome [10:40] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:40] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:40] wait, nevermind. [10:40] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [10:41] slava_dp: I was going to make a sarcastic joke but I've got nothing. :/ [10:41] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:41] yup so what do i need exactly, for 13.1's 32bit library. the install dvds? [10:41] jhw (~jhw@p579829C1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:41] sorry i meant 13.1's 32bit directory tree [10:42] jhw (~jhw@p579829C1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] stu_: for installation? [10:42] Action: slava_dp goes offline, have fun :) [10:43] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:43] godling, for the http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.1/gcc-objc-4.4.4_multilib-x86_64-1alien.txz part of alienbob's multilib tutorial [10:43] off... line? [10:43] uh sorry i mean massconver32.sh -i /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/ [10:43] that does not compute [10:44] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:44] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [10:44] stu_: just follow the directions, it is pretty straightforward. [10:45] first i have to install the gcc and glibc .txz's, then the second step is to type massconvert32.sh /slack32-tree, but i dno't have a slack-32 tree, i just need to know what i need for that tree [10:45] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] um, try looking at the script and seeing what it tries to process? [10:46] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [10:46] it's been awhile since I've done multilib [10:46] I've been running pure 64-bit for awhile [10:47] stu_, you can use remote trees too [10:47] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-162-202.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:47] oooh, ftp [10:47] Action: godling adjusts his bifocals [10:48] i think it's -u http://x/y/z/slackware [10:48] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f18f:aa08:732a) joined ##slackware. [10:49] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) left irc: Disconnected by services [10:50] aziztcf, now that helped. thanks [10:50] yeah i'm new to ##slackware so i'm still not that good at cryptic hints ;) [10:51] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [10:53] aziztcf: it's ok, don't beat yourself up over it. [10:53] Right. We'll do that for you. [10:53] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDCAC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:54] Howdy [10:54] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:54] hi arfon [10:55] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:55] hm, i installed the .txz files using upgradepkg, but now i can't massconvert.sh because there's no such file [10:56] i thought of massconvert.sh -u http://onlinetree like aziztcf suggested [10:56] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:58] stu_: have you looked at the massconvert32.sh file itself? [10:59] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) joined ##slackware. [10:59] or just tried ./massconvert32.sh --help? [10:59] alienBOB made that script very nice [11:00] That's funny... Godling is talking about massconvert. Sounds kinda cultish [11:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:00] nicer htan some multilib tools I've used in the past, yuck. [11:00] what exactly is going on here? [11:00] one of us, one of us [11:00] Zordrak: I don't know. [11:01] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.33.18) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Zordrak: can you eat them? [11:01] it lets you translate from catholic to any other christianity [11:01] get the 32 bit source, run massconvert EXACTLY as instructed with -i [11:01] one of us :) [11:01] tsccof (~highcompa@bruna.gramadosite.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:01] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [11:02] jhw (~jhw@p579829C1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:02] te (~te@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [11:02] eff blueman-manager [11:02] eff it to h [11:02] How do I get httpd to enable php? [11:02] te: did you install php? [11:02] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:03] I uncommented Include /etc/httpd/mod_php.conf [11:03] te: you need to add .php to the scripthandler thingy [11:03] /var/log/packages/php-5.2.12-i486-1_slack13.0 [11:03] Zordrak: Where? scripthandler? [11:03] oh.. [11:03] nm [11:03] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:04] te: and it's not working? [11:04] add index.php to DirectoryIndex [11:04] you can do that too [11:04] Oh, hey, it's working now [11:04] but it should still work if you click on a php file [11:04] Restarted httpd a second time and worked. [11:04] go figure :P [11:04] glad it's working [11:04] but think I just needed to refresh or ... well just firefox not working. [11:06] does apachectl still work in Slackware? [11:06] yes [11:07] great [11:07] I tried to use it in a Debian box recently and it complained. [11:07] I use it daily on debian and ubuntu [11:08] I haven't been able to use it on the XServe at work. :( [11:08] I don't know then... [11:09] okay i finally got massconvert to work, but now when i do massconvert32.sh -u http://kambing.ui.ac.id/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/, it says: [11:09] I thought they went to something like apacheadm or something [11:09] mget: d/libtool-*.t?z: Access failed: 404 Not Found (/d/) [11:09] ls: cannot access /tmp/alienBOB/d/libtool-*.t?z: No such file or directory [11:09] and it repeats for all the other files [11:09] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:10] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[11:23] I d/l the files and just did massconvert32.sh on the local copies [11:23] stu_, ^^ [11:26] alisonken1home, that is feasible [11:27] you still have to keep the a/, l/, etc. directory structure, though, otherwise massconvert may have issues [11:27] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.27.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:27] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:27] argh [11:27] alisonken1home, anyway how do i blacklist gcc/glib from slacpkg [11:28] stu_, the other thing to try is _not_ use trailing slash - IOW, use http://kambing.ui.ac.id/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware rather than /slackware/ [11:28] /etc/slackpkg/blacklist [11:28] read the notes there [11:29] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.27.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:29] alienBOB, found a workaround for flashplugin and at least huludesktop so I can watch the latest hulu crap [11:30] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [11:30] hm, so do i blacklist gcc or gcc-4.3.3 [11:30] install compat32, put 32-bit libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/flash (so the 64-bit firefox doesn't crash), install 32-bit huludesktop pointing to /usr/lib/flash/libflashplayer.so [11:31] stu_, if you have 32-bit compat gcc, then blacklist gcc [11:31] and manually check for gcc updates in the compat32 repo [11:31] so all i need to do is add gcc and glibc into /etc/slackpkg/blacklist ? [11:31] should be it [11:39] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:39] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:39] hello everyone [11:39] Hi Grif [11:39] blueman-manager error messages are so helpful [11:39] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.33.18) joined ##slackware. [11:40] how are you arfon ? [11:40] godling: ive never been able to really decipher any meaning from them :( [11:41] bagira: me neither. I was being sarcastic. [11:41] :) [11:41] lol [11:41] it'd be nice if I knew why dbus couldn't connect my mouse to the input service and what error 111 is [11:41] about as useful as .xsession-errors, eh? ;) [11:42] asarch (~asarch@189.188.145.217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:46] what's lame is that blueman-applet detects my device but won't connect it. [11:46] very frustrating [11:46] asarch (~asarch@189.188.145.217) joined ##slackware. [11:46] even more frustrating is the fact that under the title of the device in blueman-manager is the word "pointing" [11:46] like hell [11:48] http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_botlogs/slackware.log.15Mar2009 [11:48] godling: try kbluetooth? [11:48] hah. me and bluetooth. same problem. [11:49] gnubien: No, I don't have KDE installed. [11:51] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] bluez.org killed the wiki? [11:53] when did that happen? [11:54] Yes. Just because of you. [11:54] bagira: are you sure? [11:55] I thought bluez was fishy the first time I heard about it. [11:55] I never trust anything that replaces an s with a z in the name. [11:55] Yeah, they made a blog post about it. "We are shutting down the wiki just to frustrate some guy on IRC whose nick is 'godling'". [11:55] bagira: how awesome would that be? [11:55] Totally. [11:55] You're welcome, Internet. [11:55] I'd get some sick satisfaction from that. [11:56] mcury (~mcury@189.24.50.72) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Lis (~Lis@business-092-079-130-087.static.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Action: NaCl was about to wave the sarcasm sign [11:56] jan_ (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:57] seriously, isn't bluez the name you'd expect from a bunch of 14-16 year olds? [11:57] *the kind of [11:57] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Lis (Lis@business-092-079-130-087.static.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [11:57] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [11:58] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Bang Bang!!!! [12:00] Entulho (~foo@189.72.127.218) joined ##slackware. [12:03] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:04] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Quit: senate/irc:0.1b -- by cyberpunk.. [12:07] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:07] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:07] damn i was needing something to take the edge off, and my dad (who has never done this before) decided to share a stout with me today [12:07] ahhh [12:08] mcury (~mcury@189.24.50.72) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:08] father-son bonding [12:09] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f9a1:aeab:c722) joined ##slackware. [12:09] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:09] not really that bonding. he was just like "here, have a stout" [12:10] Well that killed the moment [12:10] haha [12:10] I wonder if he put laxative in it. [12:12] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f18f:aa08:732a) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:12] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [12:12] anyways, i got too ahead of myself and started compiling wine right after settling the multilib issue. my questions are, did i need any special syntax before running wine.SlackBuild and 2, can i install its dependencies after installing wine? [12:13] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f9a1:aeab:c722) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:16] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:17] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [12:17] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:18] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [12:18] Volkerding with a friend: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/500443647_95de80d6ce_o.jpg [12:18] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:19] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:19] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [12:20] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:23] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f9a1:aeab:c722) joined ##slackware. [12:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.33.18) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:24] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [12:27] #bluez-users has a link to the [defunct] bluez wiki in the channel topic [12:27] it's a laugh riot [12:30] I feel your pain Godling. Bluez website pissed me off also. [12:30] I'm not pissed, maybe annoyed. [12:31] arfon: did you have trouble getting some device to work? [12:34] Yes. [12:34] USB-BT adapter to a BT-RS232 [12:34] After sorting through MANY webpages of people doning everything but that, I figured out enough to get it working [12:35] One thing did you check... encryption, is it on and if it is, do the PINs match? [12:35] it's a mouse, there is no pin [12:35] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [12:36] guys i cant download this file without wget...why? http://v4nelle.dyndns.org/slackbuilds/plasmaTVgr/pkg/plasmatvgr-0.46-i486-1_nel.tgz.md5 [12:37] v4nelle: what else are you trying to use? [12:37] i want to downloading this with firefox [12:37] is apache problem? [12:37] Ah, I didn't see what it was [12:37] i want to fix it [12:38] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:38] v4nelle: you should be able to download it just fine with firefox. what kind of error are you getting? [12:38] What error do you get v$? [12:39] "/tmp/ZkBPcXs_.md5.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read." [12:39] godling, can you open it with firefox? [12:39] v4nelle: [12:40] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Source_file_could_not_be_read [12:40] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:40] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.78.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:40] http://v4nelle.dyndns.org/slackbuilds/plasmaTVgr/pkg/plasmatvgr-0.46-i486-1_nel.tgz.md5 [12:40] the file is compressed but empty ? [12:40] v4nelle: it's a server error [12:40] the file is a txt file [12:40] Lynx gets it fine [12:41] v4nelle: try deleting the partially downloaded file and downloading it again [12:41] i add mde as txt file on mime types of apache but nothing happends [12:41] md5* [12:41] Content-Encoding: x-gzip <-- but not compressed [12:41] I don't think it's apache.... I just got it fine with Lynx [12:42] firefox is giving me an error about invalid/unsupported compression [12:42] You probably have to fix your mime stuff in FF [12:43] if your browser use the content-encoding correctly, it'll expect a gzipped file, but it is not [12:43] wow japanese guy missed a penalty kick [12:43] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:43] hara kari during halftime [12:43] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.78.190) joined ##slackware. [12:43] is this is a ff problem,why there isnt problem here? http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/MPlayer/pkg/12.2/MPlayer-r29301-i486-1alien.tgz.md5 [12:44] ok so if paraguay makes it, they won [12:44] they won, wow [12:44] if* [12:44] the japanese guy who miissed the penalty kick is gonna get his ass killed [12:44] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vpjqzfqrvfzitfik) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:44] 5 to 4 penalty [12:44] magical alien beans [12:45] v4nelle, try wget --server-response and look the encoding, the server setup isn't correct [12:45] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gkdkeovycfchohyc) joined ##slackware. [12:45] says 5 to 3 but i thoyught it was 5 4 [12:45] that isnt a victory, thats a slightly unequal failure to score. [12:46] the 5th kick of japan is never done [12:47] oh yea [12:47] i didn't notice [12:47] i thought japan kicked first [12:48] I have no effing clue what's going on. [12:48] The last time I played soccer I was 13 years old. :P [12:48] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:48] godling, hence why your 439 lbs [12:48] Some japanese guy missed a MD5 download and now he's going to get beaten.... As far as I can tell. [12:48] and you get your milk from your breastesesseseses [12:49] haha godling i remember our team as kids would get crazy scores, like 20-0 when we had this stretch for like 3 seasons undefeated [12:49] bagira: my team sucked balls. [12:49] the parents on the other teams did not approve [12:49] I liked the game but the teammates did not. [12:49] our coach was awesome though [12:50] jeev: If I were 439 lbs that would be something [12:50] he'd be like 'hey, if your kids could do what we are doin, youd do it' [12:50] I get mine from the Dairy Section at the store. [12:50] I don't drink milk. [12:50] :) [12:51] Not regularly, at least. [12:51] i go like 2 months without it then down a half gal of whole [12:51] there's something about ingesting fluids excreted by another living thing. [12:51] ew. [12:51] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:52] jeev knows all about that [12:52] loool [12:53] x0x (~x0x@122.161.14.247) joined ##slackware. [12:53] google's really laying the smack-down on adobe... [12:53] stuart__ (~stuart@175.137.79.169) joined ##slackware. [12:53] I don't suppose there would be such a thing as mammalian life without ingesting fluids excreted by another living thing, that thing typically being the mammal's mother. [12:53] there can be only one [12:54] How so Mancha [12:54] Nick change: toast10111 -> toast10101 [12:54] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-194-162.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:54] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:54] well first vp8 comes out and i think that'll end up killing flash and now chrome's shipping with an integrated pdf reader making adober's reader worthless [12:54] rob0: I mostly wanted to make that joke at jeev's expense. ;) [12:55] You know the water you drink has probably been excreeted by other living things... Many times over. [12:55] godling, I'm fine with that :) [12:55] mancha: chrome is as gay as flash [12:55] huh? [12:55] Good, Adobe deserves it [12:56] <-not liking chrome [12:56] Change is bad [12:56] now if microsoft released a free pdf reader, then it would be death for adobe [12:56] I haven't used adobe's reader in years [12:57] yeah.. xpdf rocks [12:57] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.78.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:57] I've used Foxit alot [12:57] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.248.79) joined ##slackware. [12:57] I used kpdf since it had a prettier color [12:57] i don't like xpdf [12:57] mako-sama: i've had it crash on me [12:57] rob0: according to the panel show QI, breast milk has loads of glutamate in it [12:57] rob0: that means breast milk tastes savory [12:57] on linux i like evince, on windows if i must, i use foxit [12:57] mmmm meaty [12:57] well.. evince looks nicer [12:58] rob0, you completely ignored me when i told everyone you run exchange for your personal mail server. [12:58] never tried evince. okular annoys me [12:58] Envince? What's that? [12:58] I use SumatraPDF on Windows [12:58] it's awesome [12:58] pdfdog is the best pdf reader!!! (dive ;) ) [12:58] but xpdf is light, fast, and always there. [12:58] evince is a pdf viewer that doesn't let you quit by hitting excape [12:59] mako-sama: yes, it is [12:59] mako-sama: also ugly as hell [12:59] :) [12:59] godling: xterm doesn't look prettier. [12:59] *escape [12:59] I use urxvt [12:59] stuart__ (~stuart@175.137.79.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:59] it's the same thing [13:00] cippp (~fan@79.116.171.212) joined ##slackware. [13:00] if you don't like xterm you deserve a to be covered in honey, tied up, and placed atop an ant hill [13:00] :P [13:00] kinky [13:00] so far the conversation went from: hating on motherly fluids -> flash -> chrome -> xpdf -> xterm -> ? [13:00] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:00] mancha: most of ubuntu's crowd don't even know xterm :b [13:01] xsamurai: this is the way of IRC [13:01] mancha: urxvt is much sexier. xterm can't do false transparency! [13:01] No ESC-ing? Nice feature, makes me wanna try it. [13:01] not [13:01] i don't like false anything...well except for my ex-gf [13:01] mancha: she's got false teeth? [13:01] she's a false girl ;) [13:02] yep, wooden ones like washington [13:02] transsexual I assume [13:02] arfon: apparently evince is really good with slideshows [13:02] arfon: I think that's what rworkman said [13:02] transsexual ubuntu using one eye'd with a willy ? [13:02] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [13:04] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] hrmm,sumatrapdf looks fine, and is open source [13:04] foxit is closed. [13:04] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:04] x0x (x0x@122.161.14.247) left ##slackware. [13:04] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:06] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [13:08] cippp (~fan@79.116.171.212) left irc: Quit: cippp [13:08] cippp (~fan@79.116.171.212) joined ##slackware. [13:10] what was the name of that arcade game where you sit on the big to control the bike in the game and you're navigating these grid-wire tunnels and collecting items and getting speed boosts? [13:10] *sit on the bike [13:10] Sega made a number of those [13:10] it wasn't a bike, it was some kind of ship [13:11] i used to play it all the time in the arcade and wanted to see if i could find it for linux [13:11] wow [13:11] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:13] Yay Lunch! [13:13] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:13] erickbt86 (c8a1ca9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.161.202.154) joined ##slackware. [13:14] erickbt86 (c8a1ca9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.161.202.154) left ##slackware. 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[14:15] it says that in distro watch. in the major distributions link it says one of the pros is bug free [14:15] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:16] slack is bugs free :P the software in slack is not :pPpPp [14:16] ahahah [14:16] thats flattering but inaccurate. i also once saw on oprah that all women are victims of male domestic violence. [14:16] confused me also [14:17] a lot of what women publicize are lies. for ex. 1/4 women get raped. i don't believe that one [14:17] oh come on, thats not true. women dont lie (lol) [14:17] hahaha [14:18] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:18] stick to computers. they don't lie; they just do what they're told. [14:18] sirslacker (~sirslacke@tmo-101-179.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [14:18] space is bug-free [14:19] adaptr, launch women into space, what? [14:19] women lie 20 times more than men [14:19] bagira: computers, perhaps. women serve useful purposes down here [14:19] edthix (ed@115.133.247.150) left ##slackware. [14:20] what about bugs in space with human features and cool spaceships [14:20] however, none of them involve talking [14:20] "i don't feel good" "i'm not in the mood" "i'm not strong enought to lift that" haha [14:20] *enough [14:20] "you're so big" [14:20] lol [14:20] thats no lie [14:20] "I've never met a man like you" [14:20] mancha: maybe that lie is told to just you :P [14:20] mancha, lol yeah thats so true. a girl will avoid you if she really thinks youre that big lol [14:20] "its not you, its me" [14:21] "yes, yes it is" [14:21] sirslacker (~sirslacke@tmo-101-179.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:21] "i'm not ready for a relationship" then engaged 2 months later [14:21] you've got to sneak it up on her lol [14:21] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-16-247.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:21] robertzaccour, haha i've seen that one plenty [14:22] i knew a girl that was engaged....and she didn't want to get married [14:22] but she "didn't think she could say no" [14:22] retarded shit [14:22] haha [14:22] Action: bagira looks for a bridge to jump off of [14:22] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:22] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:22] then they both ended up hating each other not much later [14:22] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-16-247.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Ha4poon (marcin@lagoon.freebsd.lublin.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:23] by the time they get amrried women have already categorized any and all available men (and a few unavailable ones) into staying power, looks, and income [14:24] Action: xsamurai takes out his violin [14:24] adaptr, income always wins. [14:24] they're like cats. [14:24] bagira: power wins over income, but its rarer [14:25] i wish... [14:27] me too. i'm sooo powerful [14:27] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:27] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:27] Action: adaptr flexes his +3 million super sayan 3...appendage [14:29] adaptr: that line right there proves you haven't gotten any since db came out [14:29] haha, i'd love to see that as a pickup line [14:29] robertzaccour (robert@24-183-222-21.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:29] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] xsamurai: alas, I am not a teenager, nor was I one when dragonball came out [14:29] i wish i was [14:29] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] xsamurai: I am obeying the rules of the channel, albeit in a somewhat humorous manner [14:29] try it [14:30] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) joined ##slackware. [14:30] grep adaptr | wc -l , do you really want to compare ? [14:31] you know two commands! I'll uhm.. go away now [14:33] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [14:33] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Necrosporus (~Xenius@81.18.126.55) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Necrosporus (~Xenius@81.18.126.55) left irc: Changing host [14:34] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [14:34] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:39] Action: bagira wonders if there's a way to pipe /dev/urandom to his irc client [14:39] if it's irssi, write a script [14:40] and prepare to be banned everywhere [14:42] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:42] x0x (~x0x@122.161.12.55) joined ##slackware. [14:43] bagira: if you use irssi, type /help exec [14:44] you can execute any shell command in the client, and if you want, send it to a channel [14:44] that reminds me of a bash.org quote, /exec -o yes I want to dcc chat [14:45] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:45] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:46] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:46] sh: hrmmm: command not found [14:46] hrmmm [14:46] very interesting. [14:46] so what im typing right now is going to channel? [14:46] if you believe it is [14:47] hrmmm ? that's nt a shell response, is it ? unless you're running mackaysh: "file not found mmmkay?" [14:47] sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `)' [14:47] sh: -c: line 0: `echo permission to cat /dev/urandom? :)' [14:47] permission to cat /dev/urandom? [14:48] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:50] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:50] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [14:52] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:52] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.14.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:54] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f92b:aeab:c722) joined ##slackware. [14:54] rek (~casa@95.233.173.112) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:54] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) joined ##slackware. [14:55] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f9a1:aeab:c722) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:57] eBurke (~tomasz@w32-52.md4.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [15:02] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] anyone know if there's a tool to get swap I/O? [15:04] ohhh nice. syslinux 4.0 released. ext4 + btrfs support [15:04] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [15:06] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:07] adrien: dstat [15:07] trying now [15:08] cr3_ (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:08] nian (~nian@228-214.dsl.iskon.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:08] /lib/lsb/init-functions: No such file or directory [15:08] jg71, what about grub4dos + syslinux ? [15:08] if found out it's linux base [15:09] eldragon: what about it? i just care about syslinux, sorry :) [15:10] but how do i download it [15:10] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb [15:10] wait, nvm [15:12] adaptr: thanks! dstat does it! [15:12] wait, i still don't know what to download [15:12] Arirang (koolaid@c-98-246-182-183.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:13] dstat is nice [15:14] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431547.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434942.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:21] how do i check if some command is running via script? [15:21] i mean [15:22] how do i grep something from ps aux and then do something depending on the result? [15:22] without using external files perhaps? [15:23] cr3_: ps ax | grep something | awk '{print $1}' | xargs kill -9 [15:24] or! 'pkill' [15:24] i don't understand what awk does [15:24] ;) [15:24] mm... pkill is not a good idea sometimes [15:24] beats the hell out of that ugly command :> [15:24] its like : kill `ps aux | grep SOMETHING | awk '{print $2}'` [15:24] pgrep it first to check [15:24] killall name is better if you ask me .. [15:25] wait, i was thinking about something like... copy grep output to variable, and then if [ $VAR = "" ]; then else etc [15:25] i think i'll try that [15:25] that ugly command is an example [15:25] if ps aux| grep something ; then do_something ; fi [15:25] ? [15:25] oh ..u need the variable .. i see ;] [15:25] i don't actually :P [15:26] my bad ....that wasnt such a good example ... [15:26] well ..then : if 'the check'; then 'do something' ; fi [15:27] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:28] shadowx, but then, always somthing is returned to if because of grep process [15:29] awk '{print $2}' is print second line? [15:30] column as i see [15:30] yeah [15:30] head -1 :P [15:30] the result is true or false [15:30] the awk '{print $2}' was only if you need to the the pid ... . [15:30] it was a bad example :] [15:31] i started thinking of one thing ...then switched to another ... :] [15:31] what exactly do oyu need ? [15:31] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [15:31] if ps aux | grep $process_name; then $do_something ; fi [15:31] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [15:33] check whether "cpulimit -p `pidof wineserver`" is running before running cpulimit -p `pidof wineserver` -l 45 -z & :P [15:33] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-84-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:33] if ! ps aux | grep cpulimit ; then pidof..... [15:34] ! is becouse you need to do it if the process is not running ...if i'm understanding you right [15:35] mm... btw it's better to to | grep --invert-match grep , to be sure that you'll not get true , becouse of the grep ;] [15:35] auska (~auska@83.43.136.106) joined ##slackware. [15:35] hi! [15:35] why not just, pidof cpulimit || something_else [15:36] mario.. you are right ..it's better this way. [15:37] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-73-77.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:37] check out http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessManagement [15:39] Action: dustybin loves slackware [15:39] my next mission is to learn how to patch / upgrade [15:40] what does ! do in if [15:40] if ! == if not [15:40] is this negative? [15:40] ok [15:40] :) [15:41] cr3_ it's better to do it like mario said [15:41] pidof something || do_something [15:41] || = or [15:41] but there are several cpulimits [15:42] oh ...then .. do it with if :) [15:42] :P [15:42] dustybin patch upgrade what ? :) [15:42] can i install the wireless drivers under wine? [15:43] since i find no way to find the linux ones and i need it for working tomorrow [15:43] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434942.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: I shouldn't really be here - dircproxy 1.2.0 [15:43] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:43] wine is for running apps , not drivers [15:43] but now [15:44] how do i delete the last line of output even if there is only 1 line? :P [15:44] shadowx: i believe there are some security patches for 13.1 [15:44] ive just subscribed to the mailing lists [15:44] dustybin oh ..you mean upgrading packages :) [15:44] yep [15:44] fraktil_ (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:45] cr3_ mm ..can u please show me an example of the output ? [15:45] with one and more lines [15:45] pastebin pls ;) [15:45] dustybin, its easy :) [15:45] see the 13.1/patches/packages/ directory on your favorite mirror [15:45] upgradepkg package.tgz [15:46] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434942.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:46] jeeeze is that all [15:46] i already have a rsync mirror [15:46] Some packages might need a service to be stopped before upgrading. A rare few (none in the 13.1 batch) require runlevel 1 or even reboot. [15:46] dustybin yep, that's all :) [15:47] shadowx, http://pastebin.com/m3btiwJ6 [15:47] hold on, whats the catch, im using slackware and everything is too easy? [15:47] dustybin slack is easy if you know what you are doing :) [15:47] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.14.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:47] that's 2 lines... but if there is no such process then it returns "grep " process as well [15:47] so i need to get rid of that... i think [15:47] cr3_ that's way i said to make extra grep ... [15:47] alienBOB: ping [15:48] do it like this [15:48] ? [15:48] if ! ps aux | grep something | grep --invert-match something ; do .... [15:48] there are some upgrades to some of the packages im using, including bind, cups [15:48] just replace something in both places [15:48] btw ... let me check that first ...i can be leading you the wrong way [15:49] NaCl: here [15:49] upgradepkg bind-9.4.3_P5-x86_64-1_slack13.1.txz <-- and that is it? [15:49] alienBOB: will submit polkit patch when I get home tonight [15:49] yep :] and restar bind after that :) [15:49] ace :D [15:50] is there a quick way to restart a service instead of manually entering /etc/rc.d/rc.blah [15:50] That is the easy way [15:50] aye ok :D [15:50] cr3_ ..so : if ! ps aux | grep something | grep --invert-match grep ; do ... [15:50] alienBOB: aside from the compiler warnings, most of the issues were nitpicky [15:50] NaCl: nice. To the mailing list? [15:51] alienBOB: no, bugzilla. [15:51] NaCl it was an ass post anyway, but thanks for taking the trouble [15:51] tsccof (~highcompa@bruna.gramadosite.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:51] dustybin mmm.... depends on the service... [15:51] if bind: rndc reload [15:51] interesting [15:51] will reaload it ...but i'm not sure if this will do with an upgade ... [15:51] i guess each service will have different methods [15:51] Don't [15:51] so /etc/rc.d/rc.bind restart [15:51] is the better way to go [15:51] Do [15:51] ok! [15:52] alienBOB: No problem. Btw, it will be posted https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25155 [15:52] OK [15:52] mps31 (~mps@cpc2-bsfd2-0-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:53] dustybin oh ..i just remember one other thing ..if its something runnign from the inetd ...u can do : killall -HUP inetd , insted of /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd restart ... [15:53] I tested it in a fedora install, and three other people tested it in a 13.1+ install, so it *better* work. [15:53] shadowx: ok! [15:54] NaCl, of course, we can all test too :) [15:54] If you want to. [15:54] spain scored! [15:54] I forgot where I put the thing [15:55] what tool would one use to show information about installed packages, ie what version of apache httpd is runnning [15:56] pkgtool [15:56] ok [15:56] or ls /var/log/packages [15:56] that's probably faster [15:57] pkgtool looks like sbopkg [15:57] rather, sbopkg looks like pkgtool [15:57] haha [15:58] i got a feeling you guys have done this before [15:58] sbopkg looks like pkgtool :} [15:59] opz ... NaCl said it before me :/ [15:59] van_ (~van@79.107.208.218) joined ##slackware. [15:59] :p [15:59] can pkgtool work from the terminal without ncurses [16:00] pkgtool(8) is a frontend for installpkg(8)/removepkg(8) [16:00] pkgtool no : its utils yes [16:00] i see [16:00] x0x (~x0x@122.161.12.55) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:00] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [16:00] dustybin: the Slackbook is your friend [16:01] indeed [16:01] i wouldnt mind printing that out [16:01] Pat's buddies will sell you a copy. [16:01] auska (~auska@83.43.136.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:02] talking about the slackbook , Alan_Hicks is there a milestone , todo or something about slackbook 3.0 ? [16:02] Drakevr: he said yesterday he needs flagellation. [16:02] mps31 (~mps@cpc2-bsfd2-0-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:02] I think it's a fetish. I thought he was into lemons. [16:02] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:03] lol [16:03] Perhaps the lemons are into Alan_Hicks [16:04] Anyway, sadly the slackbook seems to on the bottom of his to-do list, and then some lower [16:04] sounds like hes getting slack.. [16:04] he has a new job which is a long drive from home. [16:05] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f92b:aeab:c722) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:05] (I think he stays 3-4 nights a week away from home.) [16:05] alienBOB: last I heard, polkit-kde-1 was in kdebase or kdelibs [16:05] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:05] For 4.5 [16:06] i guess its pretty low .. taht's why im asking .. if there is a todo or something so to speak a way to help with it [16:06] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:06] does the penguin form the slackware store look nice like the picture ? i'm thinking of getting one to look over my code :] [16:07] He wanted to do a complete rewrite, so I'm not sure if Alan would take patches/rewritten sections. But you can ask him. [16:08] i see.. [16:10] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:10] alienBOB: or at least I thought it was going to be... [16:11] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:36] he keeps emailing me :-/ [16:39] what does he say ?:) [16:39] Usually he sits next to general failure [16:40] Ohio LinuxFest has extended its call for proposals til next Wednesday (7/7)! If you want to submit one, go here: http://ohiolinux.org/cfp10.html [16:40] Well if you pay my ticket ;-) [16:41] speakers get in free [16:41] well hang on [16:41] everyone gets in free [16:41] speakers get lunch & a shirt though [16:41] is dsomero in here? [16:41] err nvm. wrong chan [16:41] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) joined ##slackware. [16:43] im going to use slackware for the rest of my life at home for sure [16:43] I hope Slack never ends [16:44] "never" [16:44] all good things come to an end, tsccof [16:44] true [16:44] all bad things too, at least [16:44] its the oldest longest running distro [16:44] so i hope not [16:45] if there is no slack i will have to move on to LFS [16:46] I would use Arch Linux daily [16:46] or Gentoo [16:46] or FreeBSD [16:46] slack-reloaded [16:46] mmm...it's like wanting a bmw and getting opel ...or ford ...just not the same [16:47] wertik_ (~wertik@95-25-149-36.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:47] true, slack is slick [16:47] you mean wanting a BMW 645ci and getting an Opel Astra ? [16:47] but I would use these others [16:47] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:48] or wanting a BMW 135i and getting a '69 Ford Thunderbird [16:48] i was thinking of bmw 760Li and Astra ..but yeah :) [16:48] 7 series has nothing on the 645ci. sexiest BMW in the world [16:48] or M6 and getting zafira [16:49] s/or M6/or wanting M6/ [16:49] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [16:49] wertik_ (~wertik@95-25-149-36.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] the only reason i stared working in the place i'm working now is becouse all the server are running slackware [16:50] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-194-162.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:50] maybe not the only , but the main reason [16:50] i'm getting kind of angry when working with other distros... [16:51] tsccof (~highcompa@bruna.gramadosite.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:52] i guess ~10 years of slack has made me see only the bad things in other distros... [16:52] ubuntu changed /etc/inittab to /etc/init/* in the space of 1 release, how is that for consistency.. [16:53] dustybin: ubuntu doesnt use sysv at all [16:53] I uncommented the line that should enable php in httpd.conf, but it did not seem to work [16:53] ubuntu keeps getting closer to windows and far far away from the unix idea :] [16:53] dchmelik did you restart apache ? [16:53] its not my cup of tea, i find it ugly [16:53] yes, I restarted it with the rc.httpd [16:54] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:54] derxob (~derxob@ecco.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] shadowx: most people in ubuntuland say its more like osx, not windows. those darned buttons on the left and the indicator applets... i'll stick to kde [16:54] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:55] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f86e:aeab:c722) joined ##slackware. [16:55] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [16:55] dchmelik: try "rc.httpd stop" until that command states that there are no more httpd processes to kill. Then start the httpd [16:55] ok [16:55] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f86e:aeab:c722) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:55] maco, shitty just like macosx :p [16:55] cr3_ (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:56] shadowx: at least it has a decent window manager ;-) osx lacks focus follows mouse. confuses the heck out of me [16:56] ok, alienBOB, I did that, but when I went to a php file it still just showed all the code in it [16:56] is my eyes , macosx is an broken linux ;] [16:56] broken freebsd really [16:56] nhudson (~nhudson@12.131.68.50) joined ##slackware. [16:57] well ... yeah ..broken gnu/linux/bsd :] [16:57] I used ps to see there were no httpd running [16:57] hello every budy... this last weekend I upgrade my system with the new firefox and thunderbird packages... and now, when I try print anythind that programs crash! someone has experienced this too? [16:57] this box controls my home: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505251/backend.jpg [16:57] running slackware 13.1 [16:58] isw_ (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] nhudson (~nhudson@12.131.68.50) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:58] isw_ (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:59] dchmelik i'm sure there's a better way , but try : nmap -sV -p 80 localhost [16:59] dustybin: There aren't NEARLY enough other wires near it. You need more computers there... [16:59] and see if it will say apache 2.2.15 (Unix) or apache 2.2.15 (unix) mod_php ..blqblq.. [17:00] it said it without php [17:00] hm.. so the php modul is not loaded... [17:00] NightTiger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505251/frontend.JPG [17:00] I just re-checked my httpd.conf and the line for it is uncommented [17:01] any error in /var/log/httpd/error_log ? [17:01] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:01] no error about php [17:02] dustybin: I don't have any pics of my Nokia N-800... but I do have some of my basement: http://nighttiger.ca/images/puterroom/ [17:03] and the notice line in the log , does it say apache/2.2.15 (unix) conigured -- restarting normal operations only or does it say anything about php ? [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] NightTiger: jesus [17:04] I read the whole log and it only says what you said and nothing about php [17:04] NightTiger , mc ...nice :)) [17:04] dustybin: My real name is Murphy, so... Good Old Derek, Jesus Murphy, ... two out of three is a quorum, even in Canada... [17:04] it also says stuff about digests and the server being 127.0.0.1 [17:06] dustybin: I'm easing off - I used to have 24 machines *running* down there - now I'm down to nine. I no longer SysAdmin. [17:06] van_ (~van@79.107.208.218) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:06] dchmelik ....hm... try adding the line from mod_php.conf , directly in httpd.conf (i dont think this will work ..but you can try) ... the line: LoadModule php5_module lib/httpd/modules/libphp5.so [17:06] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:06] NightTiger: 9 machines?! what kind of stuff do they run [17:07] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [17:08] shadowx, when I did that it said the module was already loaded, 'skipping,' but then nmap shows that php is active [17:09] php still did not seem to work in a file I had in my home folder, but maybe I need it in apache's folder for where the local server's index is [17:09] Web server, mail server, scanning station, FTP and rsync repositories for Slackware, Debian x86 and x86_64. Anyhow, I gotta go as I don't have a key for this place. [17:09] dchmelik , do be honest with you i think it shuld be working ...(i see that is not) , but i dont have any clue why ... [17:09] and i'm a bit sleepy .... [17:10] ok... [17:10] sorry :/ [17:10] thanks for the help so far [17:10] dchmelik: what is the name of the file you are trying to access? [17:10] index.php I think... it is in MediaWiki [17:10] yeah, index.php [17:11] Nick change: derxob -> redbox [17:11] what happens when you access it? (don't say 'it doesn't work') [17:11] jumperboy he is trying to load the php module into apache , but it dosnt seem to be loaded .... accoring to the logs its starting without it ... [17:11] the log show only apache loading without php .. [17:11] shadowx: he said it complains that it's already loaded when he tries to load it again [17:11] and that was from me ...good night to all :) [17:11] NightTiger (~derekm@ottawa-hs-64-26-171-99.s-ip.magma.ca) left irc: Quit: NightTiger [17:12] when I try to access it, it just shows all the code [17:12] jumperboy yeah , becouse i told him to add the loadmodule line after the calling of mod_php.conf [17:12] shadowx, I did say nmap now shows php is loaded [17:12] dchmelik did you Oo [17:12] show the URL you are trying to access [17:12] wow ,,.. i'm really sleepy ...sorry [17:12] after I added that line you mentioned [17:12] does it have a .php extension? [17:12] dchmelik: does httpd -M report the module as loaded? [17:13] yes, thumbs [17:13] do just add the other line AddType application/x-httpd-php .php [17:13] Q: What kind of password encryption standard is used with slackware? SHA-256? [17:13] and maybe tell taht the index may be .php not only .html [17:13] and good night for the last time ;) i'm afk :] [17:13] goodnight, shadowx [17:13] dchmelik: good. [17:14] shadowx: no, that's incorrect. [17:14] shadowx: you should NOT use AddType to enable mod_php. [17:14] dchmelik: if you're not accessing the full path of the file with the .php extension, you need to update your DirectoryIndex. [17:14] v4nelle (~van@79.107.208.218) joined ##slackware. [17:14] shadowx: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php [17:14] thumbs: shadowx: it's already in mod_php.conf, anyway [17:15] I do not quite know what you mean, jumperboy... it has been a while since I used Apache [17:15] thumbs , yep u add type to tell apache that for .php files it must use the php module :] [17:15] shadowx: no, do NOT use AddType. [17:15] shadowx: read the link I gave you. [17:15] jumperboy: I was merely correcting shadowx's mistake. [17:15] me ? i'm going to sleep :) help dchmelik :) [17:15] dchmelik: first troubleshoot PHP, without using mediawiki [17:15] detaching :))) [17:16] Guest315u (60fac152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.193.82) joined ##slackware. [17:16] dchmelik: anyway, you still aren't showing the URL you're trying to access in your browser [17:16] dafydd (~dafydd@d173-183-148-219.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] file:///home/d/wiki/index.php [17:17] you're joking [17:17] no [17:17] dchmelik: hehehehee [17:17] that's just loading it from your filesystem [17:17] not apache [17:17] dchmelik: file:// will not even talk to apache httpd. [17:18] that is what I suspected [17:18] dchmelik: http:// does. [17:18] hi, i need some help.. i have a luks full disk encryption with lvm, but my laptop's power got cut off without shutting down properly now luks won't accept my passphrase for some reason [17:18] any ideas? [17:18] te (~te@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [17:19] anyone with a similar setup? [17:20] I want to resolv an outside domain name to localhost (for demonstration purposes) and thought I could do that with just an entry in /etc/hosts, but don't seem to be able to do it, what am I forgetting / leaving out? [17:20] dchmelik: uncomment this line in httpd.conf: #Include /etc/httpd/extra/httpd-userdir.conf [17:20] te: yes, that's the approach. [17:20] te: pastebin what you did. [17:21] dchmelik: then restart apache. that will allow you to serve from your home directory [17:21] Going to demo the joomla site I've built for vfwpost2137 and resolv vfwpost2137.org to localhost/vfw2137 [17:21] dchmelik: don't forget to chmod /home/dchmelik to 755 [17:21] dchmelik: then try http://127.0.0.1/~d/wiki/index.php [17:21] localhost/vfw2137 is not going to work in a hosts file te [17:22] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] I am not sure I need to do all that... I already set up an idex page referring to 127.0.0.1 [17:22] dchmelik: but you still have a bit to learn before exposing your site to the internet [17:22] 127.0.0.1/vfw2137 ? [17:22] it just says "No key available with this passphrase" [17:23] alienBOB: Well what can I do to resolve vfwpost2137.org to localhost/vfw2137 [17:23] dchmelik: you also need to update your DirectoryIndex to recognize index.php files [17:24] te: make the hostname resolve to the IP of your server, and set up a vhost with the proper DirectoryIndex [17:24] dlafata (~dlafata@dynamic-adsl-78-13-73-231.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [17:24] So that we can make changes to the site at will without effecting the real site. [17:24] te: err DocumentRoot [17:24] o [17:25] well... +++++ [17:25] yeah, when I tried to access the php file it was just blank this time... so I will find out about that DirectoryIndex [17:26] dchmelik: that's just so you don't have to type index.php [17:26] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [17:26] hello [17:26] dchmelik: if you get a blank page without an error, PHP's working (but mediawiki might not be) [17:26] yeah, I saw something about that error on #mediawiki [17:27] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gkdkeovycfchohyc) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:27] dchmelik: that's a wsod. [17:27] I think I will try the configuration you suggested for my home directory... I have done that before and it is nice [17:27] thumbs: :) [17:27] wsod? [17:27] wiki screen of death? [17:28] Ok, DocumentRoot is now set to: /srv/httpd/htpdocs [17:28] so......? [17:28] dchmelik: white screen of death. [17:28] te: did you make a separate vhost with that hostname as the ServerName? [17:28] well the whole screen is not white [17:28] dchmelik: oh. [17:29] it just seems a strange thing to say when outside of the box it is not white [17:29] dchmelik: check the php error log. [17:30] I will have to find out where that is... apparently not in /var/log [17:30] dchmelik: the folks in ##php can help you with that. [17:30] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-90-188.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:30] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [17:30] redbox (~derxob@ecco.dreamhost.com) left irc: Changing host [17:30] redbox (~derxob@unaffiliated/derxob) joined ##slackware. [17:31] ok [17:31] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:32] so can a power failure cause a luks header to get messed up? [17:32] thumbs: No, I didn't [17:32] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:32] I have a problem with the installation. I choose network one from ftp http server I set the ftp server and the directory and each time I have an error "Z" [17:33] te: let's do that first, then. [17:33] thumbs: How do I make a seperate vhost for vfwpost2137.org [17:33] "No file packages.txt" found...Wrong URL ? [17:33] ? [17:33] te: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html [17:35] jumperboy, BTW, when I did that configuration to serve from a home folder, afterwards it says I do not have permission to access it. However I did chmod my user folder to 755.... [17:35] dchmelik: What does the error log say, exactly? [17:36] 403 [17:36] dchmelik: What does the error log say, exactly? [17:36] there is two settingsm the first I set ftp://ftp.lip6.fr and the second I set: /pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/ [17:36] oh, the error log, I will check [17:36] dchmelik: I want the full line from the error log. [17:36] client denied by server configuration: /home/d/public_html [17:37] maybe it will still work when I type an exact file instead of trying to get the index [17:38] dchmelik: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/ClientDeniedByServerConfiguration [17:38] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-12-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [17:39] janemba (cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) left ##slackware. [17:39] Guest315u (60fac152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.193.82) left ##slackware. [17:41] thumbs: Here is my first attempt: http://pastebin.com/tHiwqMkM [17:41] which did not work... [17:41] sinuhe_ (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] te: pastebin httpd -S [17:43] rheault (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] dlafata (~dlafata@dynamic-adsl-78-13-73-231.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:46] I have a wireless care running on ndiswrapper, with wpa, wpa seem to continuously fail, why? [17:47] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: aryr100 [17:47] redbox (~derxob@unaffiliated/derxob) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:48] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:48] redbox (~derxob@unaffiliated/derxob) joined ##slackware. [17:48] palte (60fac152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.193.82) joined ##slackware. [17:50] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:50] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [17:51] hi [17:51] i'm currently booted into the initrd [17:51] when i do modprobe dm-crypt, it says "cannot parse modules.dep" [17:53] thumbs: http://pastebin.com/vNrvejR5 [17:53] anyone? [17:53] te: you should make that vhost *:80 instead. [17:54] But that's after I changed *80 to 192.168.1.10:80 [17:54] but still doesn't work [17:54] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:54] te: why? Make it *:80 instead. [17:54] ok [17:55] palte: can you depmod -a [17:55] te: does that hostname resolve to 192.168.1.10? [17:55] I have a wireless care running on ndiswrapper, with wpa, wpa seem to continuously fail, why? [17:55] asarch (~asarch@189.188.145.217) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:55] jgor: thanks, that got rid of the message [17:55] np [17:56] jan__ (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [17:56] thumbs: That's just the IP address of my laptop here at home. [17:56] te: I know. [17:56] but it says "module dm-crypt not found" [17:56] But I changed it back. [17:56] te: you need to make the hostname resolve to the IP of your local server. [17:57] only module that it shows loaded is reiserfs [17:57] thumbs, I read that part of the Apache docs and added a directory block for my home folder... but Apache says it is not found [17:57] palte: i'm not familiar with that module, but you could try searching for crypt modules: find /lib/modules -name *crypt*.ko [17:57] palte: the initrd does not have a dm-crypt module. It is built into the kernel instead [17:57] ah that's it then [17:57] dchmelik: What does the error log say, exactly? [17:57] thanks [17:58] ahh [17:58] File does not exist: /home/d/public_html [17:58] dchmelik: does that directory exist? [17:58] ugh! [17:58] yes... I think I might know what the problem is [17:58] thumbs Yes, I need to make the hostname resolve to the IP of my laptop. [17:59] dchmelik: also, your user is really named 'd' ? [17:59] yes [17:59] i don't know why luks isn't accepting my password! [17:59] te: ok, go ahead and do that. [17:59] alienBOB: could a power failure caused the headers to be overwritten or something/ [17:59] palte: capslock [17:59] no capslock [17:59] thumbs That is what I'm stumped on. [17:59] te: add the hostname to the hosts file. [18:00] palte: try typing out your password in plaintext, make sure there's no key mapping issues? [18:00] i did that [18:00] I thought it was the main directory block that was the problem, but that was not it [18:01] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] the 'Deny from all' line [18:01] I changed it like the docs said [18:01] 17:52 < thumbs> dchmelik: does that directory exist? [18:01] it is my home folder [18:01] dchmelik: please focus on answering my questions. [18:01] 17:51 < dchmelik> File does not exist: /home/d/public_html [18:02] wait, the public_html thing does not exist [18:02] I do not know what that is [18:02] dchmelik: a directory. Create it. [18:02] but /home/d exists [18:02] palte: in that case are you sure it's rejecting your password, not running into another error? iirc from my luks experiences, if the system doesn't support the crypt algorithm you used it wasn't immediately obvious from the error message [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434942.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] omg, i don't know how i did it [18:02] thumbs: See: http://pastebin.ca/1892100 [18:02] i couldn't have forgotten the password [18:02] sorry for the trouble guys [18:02] te: that's completely incorrect. [18:02] I guess I will, but I would rather re-configure Apache to use my home folder's root [18:02] te: man hosts [18:03] jan__ (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:03] pebkac [18:03] te: you do NOT want to put a URL or URI in the hosts file. Only hostnames and IPs [18:04] i guess i hadn't booted up the machine in a while and just forgot [18:06] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-90-188.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:06] after I added another block from the php manual to httpd.conf, the MediaWiki works now! [18:06] newyork (~newyork@p5DC91AD7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] Ok that did it. [18:07] te: terrific! [18:08] Now, how can I tell apache to look for index.php and not just index.html or index.htm [18:08] ? [18:08] Because it's just showing the directory... [18:08] and not index.php [18:08] te: DirectoryIndex index.php index.html [18:08] thumbs: tnx [18:09] te: I hope you understand what I corrected for you? [18:09] klein_ (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) joined ##slackware. [18:09] dchmelik: you don't have to use userdir. You can make a simple vhost, and set the DocumentRoot, too. [18:10] I prefer using userdir, but I am not sure I ever got it to work properly... maybe I just made a link from the standard documentroot [18:10] is there some IRC channel for Apache? [18:10] Asp_ (~vlado@178.223.63.156) joined ##slackware. [18:10] dchmelik: #httpd [18:10] Slacking_Man (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-22.danbbs.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:12] Asp_ (vlado@178.223.63.156) left ##slackware. [18:13] if anyone here is interested or already using mkslack we now have a channel #mkslack [18:13] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. 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[18:20] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:20] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:21] WHAT'S MKSLAK? [18:24] I DUNNO [18:24] http://www.dawoodfall.net/slackbuilds/noversion/mkslack/ there's a readme there somewhere [18:26] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:26] barnabyh (~chatzilla@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624182103] [18:26] thank you. [18:27] 'caps are bad [18:27] you're welcome. [18:27] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:30] elysian (~nian@228-214.dsl.iskon.hr) joined ##slackware. [18:30] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [18:30] Nick change: sinuhe_ -> sinuhe [18:31] newyork (~newyork@p5DC91AD7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:32] cippp (~fan@79.116.171.212) left irc: Quit: cippp [18:34] when I plugged in an external FAT32-formatted USB drive, it was not automatically mounted [18:34] dios_mio (test@78.175.132.209) joined ##slackware. [18:34] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:eea8:ad65:b8a) joined ##slackware. [18:36] SkyTV (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] SkyTV (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Changing host [18:36] SkyTV (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Haraken (ryuk@unaffiliated/haraken) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:37] how do I use custom tag files during an installation? [18:37] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:38] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [18:39] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-0202.bb.online.no) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:39] Nick change: SkyTV -> Skywise [18:40] when you get to the packages menu, it should be an option on the bottom [18:40] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-213.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:43] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:45] ViN86 (~ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-EIGHTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [18:48] Skywise, ok I'll check it out [18:49] Skywise, all I see are the different packages I can select on packages series selection screen... do the tagfiles need to be placed in /tag ? [18:50] you should be able to pick a path to them [18:53] ok I got it, thanks :) [18:53] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:54] alienBOB: it's been done. 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[19:09] DallaRosa (~dalla@softbank126108005088.bbtec.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:12] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:13] So uh, I have a problem, trying to do the install and, I moved the source folder onto a partition, and it sees all of the a/x/kde folders, but when it goes to full install, it takes about 5 seconds and tells me it's done, which is weird since it's supposed to be 5.7gb+, that's what the installer says anyway, any idea what this might be? [19:13] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:18] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:18] elysian, maybe the installer isn't finding the packages to install [19:18] or you havent selectefd them [19:19] Nah, they're selected, and I mean, it's finding the folders that contain the packages, so I'm guessing it can find the packages. [19:20] Because, for instance, awhile ago the kde folder didn't copy from the FTP, no idea why, but the installer didn't even show the kde folder, and it shows all of the folders now. [19:22] eBurke (~tomasz@w32-52.md4.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:23] burshki (~dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) joined ##slackware. [19:25] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-75-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:25] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.219) joined ##slackware. [19:26] Yeah, I guess it just doesn't see the packages or something, just chose menu as an install option and it didn't ask me anything, just said it's done. [19:27] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:28] sounds like wrong path or something [19:28] there should be a log of whats going on [19:29] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [19:29] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:00] ViN (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-EIGHTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:03] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:06] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:13] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] dchmelik: why do you ask? [20:14] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:14] I was curious about how to do it, but actually I have finished the process [20:16] wordpress for text editing? slick [20:16] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [20:18] I am thinking of using MediaWiki or WordPress for text editing because there is nothing in KDE yet sort of like 'tags' on Apple computers [20:18] I suppose to implement it some weird things with the filesystem and symlinks or hard links might have to be done [20:28] is there any difference between copying a file and making a hard link to it? [20:29] dios_mio (test@78.175.132.209) joined ##slackware. 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[20:58] i only see an option to automatically clear cookies [21:00] ViN_ (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-EIGHTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:01] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.156.135) joined ##slackware. [21:01] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.156.135) left irc: Changing host [21:01] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [21:02] zaltekk, incognito mode not cutting it? [21:05] rapid: eh, idk. i didn't see that. [21:05] i guess i'll just need to modify the default launcher to start it in that mode [21:08] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:09] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:10] ah, all done [21:10] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:10] thanks for aiding my memory, rapid [21:11] fremenblue (~ryan@170.213.131.190) joined ##slackware. [21:11] sup [21:11] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189.111.36.113) joined ##slackware. [21:12] zaltekk, np [21:12] i just configured openvpn to route traffic, im using WCID as my network manager, havent touched the rc network files, and have a question [21:13] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:13] for sum reason, the 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 DNS servers that are setup in WCID are overwritten by dhcpcd [21:13] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:13] i want that to stop happening, how do i do it? [21:13] wcid = wicd [21:13] fremenblue: you should be able to set wicd to overwrite them [21:13] i did that [21:14] works fine for me [21:14] wicd is set to use the servers, and everytime it connects it works [21:14] dhcpcd should have an option to not overwrite resolt.conf [21:14] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:14] then after about 15-20 minutes resolv.conf is overwritten by dhccd [21:14] iirc [21:14] dhcpcd [21:14] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [21:14] that hasn't happened for me... [21:14] hm [21:14] im glad for you zaltekk but its happening to me [21:14] my laptop has been running for about a week and my resolv.conf is still setup the way that wicd is told to do [21:15] so i'm not really sure what to tell you [21:15] thanks for trying [21:15] anyone got a idea? [21:15] rapid where is the option in dhcpcd [21:15] suppose ill read man [21:16] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] fremenblue: my understanding is that wicd should use the correct options to not have your dhcp client overwrite resolv.conf [21:17] obviously that isn't working....but maybe wicd can output debug info so you can see the actual commands it runs [21:17] LnxSlck (~LnxSlck@bl16-215-85.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:18] drolen (~drolen@187.66.127.12) joined ##slackware. [21:18] ill change dhcp client to auto instead of dhcpcd [21:18] give it a shot [21:18] drolen (drolen@187.66.127.12) left ##slackware. [21:19] well [21:20] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:20] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:20] i'll brb and let u know how it works in 30-45 minutes [21:20] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [21:24] fremenblue (~ryan@170.213.131.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:25] fremenblue (~ryan@rrcs-74-87-26-145.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:25] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:26] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:30] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [21:32] Sir1us (~kvirc@sirius.kraslan.ru) joined ##slackware. [21:32] hey is it just me or does the mplayer in slack 13.1 not like certain video files? i feel like it's about as inter-operable as what you get when you do not have the codecs in place before you compile (due to past experience) [21:33] hi everyone ;) [21:36] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:42] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:44] ViN (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-EIGHTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:44] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:45] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:46] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:49] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F8FE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:02] elysian (~nian@228-214.dsl.iskon.hr) left irc: [22:02] nian (~nian@228-214.dsl.iskon.hr) left irc: [22:02] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] does Slack have an opengl pack, or where does it get it from? [22:11] ?? [22:12] oh wait mesa yeah? [22:12] mesa is an open source opengl implementation forlinux [22:12] yeah I forgot hehe thanks [22:14] Sir1us (~kvirc@sirius.kraslan.ru) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [22:14] well someone was telling me for this error GLX error: Can not get required symbols. To install opengl but I have mesa installed already [22:14] not sure what's causing that errr [22:14] error [22:15] whole error and context [22:15] that seems like an X log error [22:15] that's the whole error in Xorg log and when I log out of OpenBox is displayed in the console [22:15] GLX error: Can not get required symbols. [22:16] someone was telling me even if you use a laptop you should compiled in AGP support and when I do in the Xorg log I get this now. [22:16] i bet youve done some whoring [22:16] you put out for an foss driver and proprietary driver and back? [22:17] I just compiled in AGP support in the kernel is all [22:17] sorry what? [22:17] have you played with the video driver is what i mean... [22:17] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] greetings and salutations [22:18] yeah I had the ATI drivers in before now I'm using the X driver, but I recompiled the kernel and removed the old /lib/modules/ and when I recompiled of course made the new one, so I didn't see how the old ATI drivers might be messing with something [22:18] re-install mesa [22:19] i knew you'd been whoring [22:20] ok boss :) [22:23] brb [22:23] thanks [22:23] Action: Xgates goes to check now [22:23] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [22:27] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:27] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [22:29] reinstalling mesa didn't work same error msg [22:29] reinstall your xorg server now [22:29] even though I have slack on a laptop should I have agp compiled in? [22:29] once you do that all your problems will be gone [22:30] ok and agp? [22:30] you mean the kernel support? that's fine. [22:30] Raggs (~c@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] yeah agp in the kernel [22:31] ok thanks [22:32] ok brb [22:32] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Client Quit [22:33] bhanson (bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:33] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:33] francog (francog@pdpc/supporter/professional/francog) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:33] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.25.207.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:33] j0z (~UNIX@201.47.25.207.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [22:33] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [22:35] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] hi, slackpkg upgrade-all (changing 13 to 13.1 mirrors) spoiled my system, isn't it a valid way to up-to-date the system to 13.1? [22:41] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] there's an UPGRADE.txt did you read it? [22:42] hi all, i am trying to install Virtualbox and the installer says to install and build headers for my kernel, it seems the headers are there already, any ideas? [22:43] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:44] Entulho (~foo@189.72.127.218) left irc: Quit: Leaving! [22:46] Raggs, using -ose ? [22:46] omnihil (hermes@camel.ethereal.net) left ##slackware. [22:46] puel [22:46] doesn't it also need the kernel source? [22:47] mancha: yeah!, it's my first time with slack, I wanted only to verify for myself a rapid way :), *is the official way the only one?* [22:47] ang the error says " build and header files for your current Linux kernel" [22:48] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:48] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [22:49] mancha: thanks that was it, now if I can just figure this last one out then you D Man! :) LOL [22:50] ----> error setting MTRR (base = 0xd0000000, size = 0x01000000, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25) [22:50] Raggs: you need the linux headers or virtualbox-kernel module? [22:50] dvel, the error just says build and header files [22:51] dvel: did you do "slackpkg install-new" first? [22:52] rworkman: after or before to upgrade-all? [22:53] Before. You mean you didn't read the slackpkg manual page? http://xkcd.com/293/ [22:53] :P [22:53] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Xgates, i dunno, do you get this with all WM's or just o-box? [22:55] try using openbox-session [22:56] I only use openbox so I wouldn't know for others [22:56] how do you use the session? [22:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:57] Raggs: can you pastebin the error [22:58] rworkman: i jumped this step, sure, my memory was dumb in his moment. i have a not-Full installation, install-new option will install pkgs that I don't wish? [22:58] ang http://pastebin.ca/1892231 [22:58] dvel: it might, but you can deselect them if needed. [22:59] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] mancha: well I built openbox from a slackbuild and I just type startx and I don't remember much about sessions.... [22:59] rworkman: then, slackpkg is a stable and valid option for up-to-date? (with instasll-new, supposed) [22:59] sure [23:00] Raggs: are you running a custom kernel? [23:00] yo rwork [23:00] mancha: ola [23:00] rworkman, i dont believe so [23:00] rworkman: thx, when it comes slack >13.1, i try again :) [23:01] :) [23:01] rworkman 2.6.33.4 #3 SMP Wed May 12 23:13:09 CDT 2010 x86_64 [23:01] Raggs: are you running huge, huge-smp, generic, or generic-smp kernel? [23:01] ok [23:01] not usre what it means by "build and header files" .... do they want the kernel source as well? [23:01] huge or generic? [23:01] ang: yes [23:01] i don't recall if virtualbox build kernel modules like vmware does [23:01] rworkman, doesnt say [23:02] rworkman: k [23:02] Raggs: then huge. You need to install the kernel-source package [23:02] Xgates, let's clear that puppy up then, maybe straggler memory [23:02] Raggs: ls -l /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build [23:03] mancha: ok but how do I run an openbox-session? [23:03] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2010-06-29 05:42 /lib/modules/2.6.33.4/build -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.4 [23:03] I forgot how you do this, run a session [23:03] reboot, and try again. or we could reconstruct the mtrr tables but that'll cost you extra [23:03] ang: it builds two or three kernel modules, so it needs the kernel source of the runnign kernel [23:03] Raggs: okay, good sign. Have you *tried* to build a custom kernel at some point? [23:03] not in salix [23:04] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:04] sigh [23:04] *facepalm* [23:04] Does Salix not have a support channel? [23:04] rworkman, i am sure they do [23:05] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:05] If you're running salix, then you should ask there. I'm pretty sure they didn't do anything braindead (I like those guys, actually), but still. [23:05] but i know knowledgable folks are here, so thought i would give it a try [23:05] mancha: well I have an OpenBox slackpack I built with openbox-session support and I get the same error msg, but like I said I don't know how you use it, is there anything special you have to do? [23:06] Quite frankly, I don't like the fact that all of the Slackware-(rebadge/fork) users think it's perfectly acceptable to come here for support. [23:06] rEbOoT [23:06] rworkman, ok, i wont ask anymore [23:06] Raggs: all that said, make sure you have the glibc and kernel-source packages installed, and it should work. [23:07] tar -tf of that pack shows ---> etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.openbox-session [23:07] ok let me install that pack cause this one doesn't have the support I took it out [23:07] thanks brb [23:07] kvm is a good idea, also [23:08] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [23:08] ty rworkman [23:08] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.28.221.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:09] rworkman, when i get a blanc CD i will upgrade to slackware [23:10] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:15] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:15] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.219) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:15] Raggs, got usb sticks? [23:15] dafydd (~dafydd@d173-183-148-219.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:15] Delahunt, i do [23:17] does your machine boot from USB? [23:17] and do you have more than one (one needs to be 1-2GB, the other don't matter) [23:18] i have 2. both are r8G [23:18] does your machine boot from USB? [23:19] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.219) joined ##slackware. [23:19] yes [23:19] then you can install from USB [23:20] asamoah (~caio@190.244.44.222) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:20] i have used unetbooting in the past, but not with slackware [23:20] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [23:20] 1) make a USB bootable (download slackware-13.1/usb-and-pxe-installers/usbboot.img and then burn that into the first stick using dd if=usbboot.img of=/dev/sdX) [23:20] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:20] ok so I have this in /etc/X11/xinit: [23:20] (but BE CAREFUL you are sure you are pointing at the right device! all info on the device will cease to exist) [23:20] sar@slackware:/etc/X11/xinit$ ls [23:20] README.Xmodmap xinitrc@ xinitrc.openbox* xinitrc.openbox-session* [23:21] sar@slackware:/etc/X11/xinit$ ls -l xinitrc [23:21] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2010-06-03 23:18 xinitrc -> xinitrc.openbox* [23:21] Delahunt, can you pm me [23:21] I guess if I want it to use the openbox-session I should make the symlink to it? [23:21] then 2) take the other stick, remove info from it (you must remove info from both that you want to keep, obviously), put one ext2 partition on that usb stick, then copy slackware/* to it (and extra/* if you want stuff like wicd, bittorrent, etc) [23:21] Raggs, i can [23:22] i'm very familiar with this procedure since my core2duo's dvd drive died and the other machine is a netbook :S [23:22] ziggy (ziggy@187.37.204.213) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:22] rworkman: I'm doing a port of Slackware to the web that I'm calling Workmanix, and I'll be redirecting all support requests to your Slackware.com email address. Will that be acceptable? [23:22] lol [23:23] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:23] haha' [23:23] so cruel [23:23] mancha: you in still? [23:24] haha jkwood [23:25] slackware with openoffice and all the xfce goodies would be extremely popular, he'd get flooded in no time [23:25] Delahunt, that is a normal slackware install then? [23:25] um yes, since you have enough room, copy slackware/* in their entirety and extra/* [23:25] ok I switched this: [23:25] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [23:25] root@slackware:/etc/X11/xinit# ls -l xinitrc [23:25] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Jun 29 17:22 xinitrc -> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.openbox-session [23:25] Channel flood from Xgates -- kicking [23:25] brb [23:25] Xgates kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:25] make sure the usb stick has two directories (extra and slackware) obviously [23:25] to keep them separate [23:32] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [23:32] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] How should I configure my wireless router so I can do pxe booting? [23:35] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [23:35] specifically I'm trying to pxe boot an installer so I can install the operating system of choice into the client computer [23:35] Delahunt, how did the drive recovery go? [23:36] Sorry I missed you that day (night for me). [23:38] xovan: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.1/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_PXE.TXT [23:38] rc.wireless is deprecated? [23:38] anyone know who runs the tds.net mirror? it's missing the readme's for the usb and pxe installers :) [23:38] rob0, worked, thanks, i figured it out [23:38] had to recreate the drive but at least the dd image worked [23:39] If you want the router to be the PXE/tftp server, you should read its documentation and ask at a place that supports them. [23:39] Delahunt: great [23:39] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [23:39] next time be able to recreate the partition table, if you're going to save an image :) [23:40] yeah [23:40] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [23:40] well i fat fingered a restore is why (/dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1) [23:40] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [23:41] Really, it only makes sense to save an image for Windows, and even then, only partially makes sense, you can restore the files and make the filesystem bootable in other ways. [23:41] well basically when an update comes out for it, i go to lastknowngood and then go online and get updates [23:41] trying to make sure my copy stays as pristine as possible [23:41] i have the original image too though just in case [23:42] (but that would result in update && reboot hell) [23:42] are there any convenient tools for writing scripts in bash? [23:42] i mean with variable completion etc [23:42] dios_mio (test@78.175.132.209) left irc: Quit: Internet Relax Chat [23:43] (writing in bash and echo'ing to a file is not what i'm asking :P) [23:43] dvel_ (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [23:43] i forgot how it's called and i can't find anything in google :P [23:44] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:45] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [23:45] ok mancha back [23:45] I have openbox running from the xinitrc.openbox-session and I still have the error, so not sure if just running it as a session might of gotten rid of it but it didn't... [23:46] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: nothing quite like a ripple on the clean sine wave [23:50] cr3, not bash autocompletion,right? http://www.slackwiki.org/Bash_Autocompletion [23:51] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:51] cr3: maybe try http://www.google.com/search?q=shell+script+IDE for ideas? [23:51] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:52] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:52] MLanden, no [23:52] rob0, ty for "shell script IDE" :P [23:54] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:55] oobe (proxy@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:55] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [23:58] hey i'm having a brain fart, what's the options for wget to download an entire tree like http://www.slackware-whatever.org/slackware/slackware64-13.1/slackware64/* ? [23:58] i tried -m and i'm not familiar with wget (but reading man page) [23:58] tried to get user to use rsync and i made sure the rsync command works but for some reason it's not downloading anything on his machine [00:00] --- Wed Jun 30 2010