[00:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] agentc0re: you didn't confuse things. i was trying to compile it for slamd64. it compiled once and installed, but running it gave an error message. yesterday, i tried compiling it again, but got a plugin error. was busy, so i left it. [00:01] Heya,folks..How's everyone? [00:01] hey MLanden :) [00:01] Heya,antler [00:02] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [00:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [00:03] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:04] Nick change: sidmario_ -> Guest66695 [00:04] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:05] Action: antler is just happy to get rid of 2tbs of ntfs partitions, all of which are now reiserfs's. :D [00:05] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Action: psychicist wishes antler good luck going from one bug-ridden fs to another :P [00:06] gyah [00:06] firefox died [00:06] i can't kill the process [00:06] what do i do without restarting? [00:06] Action: dartmouth kills it again, nothing happens [00:06] psychicist: heh i was pretty close to using ext3 :P [00:08] jar_corefile (n=jar_corf@76.210.68.106) left irc: "Leaving" [00:08] dartmouth: pkill firefox-bin [00:08] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [00:08] Action: rworkman agrees with psychicist [00:09] damnit! both of you would use ext3 over reiserfs, given the choice? [00:09] rworkman: psychicist ^^ [00:09] antler: I mostly use ext3 for compatibility reasons but I prefer jfs and xfs [00:09] rworkman: oh, well, thank you, because when i was killing the process earlier with pkill firefox-bin and killing the pid directly with ps waux | grep firefox, and even doing kill -9 $pid I was hoping that pkill would be the answer if i just kept doing it. [00:10] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:10] antler: yes. [00:11] antler: i would [00:11] Given the choice, I'd go with JFS. That's what I use on everything I have. [00:11] psychicist: ah, ok. i remember not wanting jfs or xfs because it's terribly slow with small (or large) files, i don't remember which. :P [00:11] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:11] ext3 is just reliable [00:11] Cardinal, however, runs XFS, due to consensus of its owners :) [00:11] matsuura (n=umeii@pool-173-55-246-4.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] Yeah, what is the package name for qt4? [00:12] antler: probably xfs you're thinkiing of. It's terribly slow with unlinks too. JFS has been a *very* good compromise with speed and well-roundedness here. [00:12] antler: xfs is designed for very large systems with large files, it originated on sgi irix after all [00:12] Gut (n=Gut@189.23.192.2) joined ##slackware. [00:12] Gut (n=Gut@189.23.192.2) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:13] dartmouth: if you had an instance that was unkillable with e.g. killall firefox-bin then you've seen something that I haven't. [00:13] I occasionally have to do a "killall firefox ; killall firefox-bin"-- usually due to flash or pdf files locking it up [00:13] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:13] Okay.. Is QT-R931082 the package name for QT4? [00:13] yes [00:13] matsuura: ^ [00:14] How do you know? [00:14] matsuura: well, no. "qt" is the name. "r931082" is the version. [00:14] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] rworkman: ok ty ill keep that in mind. it was weird because i was killing the pid directly :/ [00:14] matsuura: um, I'm not sure how to answer that. [00:14] rworkman: r931802.. there's not even a 4 in there.. [00:14] antler: I use JFS as well. [00:15] matsuura: from a termianl, type "finger rworkman@slackware.com" and then just trust me. :) [00:15] antler: For my 5 Slackware Servers at work and my home pc. JFS only. [00:15] rworkman: ... What? [00:15] lol [00:15] rworkman: it's not a matter of trust.. I'm asking how in the hell are you supposed to identify a package by it's actual version number... [00:16] These package version names make no sense [00:16] :( [00:16] matsuura: we're shipping a svn pull from kde's servers called "qt-copy" -- it's what the kde team uses as their qt version. [00:17] Ah, alright. [00:17] Way back when I was working on early kde-4.x stuff, I had lots of compat problems with qt releases, so I used qt-copy instead and had better luck. Eric stayed with that, and then Pat did the same later. [00:18] rworkman: so it is indeed qt-r931082...? [00:18] I need qt4 for the latest version of qjackctl and what not [00:18] Yes, it's svn revision 931082 [00:18] It is qt4 for the purposes of what you need though. [00:19] I don't want to use that crazy peice of mess they call KDE4, at all. Will QT4 interfere with the workings of QT3? [00:19] yes [00:19] o_o [00:19] If you want to keep qt3 from 12.2, then you need to build qt4 from SBo. [00:19] Nick change: Guest66695 -> sidmario_ [00:19] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [00:19] You shouldn't even be considering installing packages from -current onto 12.2 anyway -- -current has seen major changes and is now incompatible with 12.2 [00:19] rworkman: well I don't plan on updating qt3 with qt4, just installing it [00:20] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:20] matsuura: qt4 from SlackBuilds.org will peacefully coexist with stock qt-3.x [00:20] Ah, excellent, so I should grab that, no? [00:20] yep [00:21] How come these updates are staying consistant with each build like they use to? [00:21] huh? [00:21] seems like every distro is doing something similar [00:21] especially arch [00:21] one day you install, another day you can't update because of major changes [00:21] Crazy stuff D: [00:22] -stable and -current are two separate beasts. There should *never* be an expectation that you can use -current packages on latest -stable release. [00:22] Ah.. I don't know.. I use to do it all the time [00:22] Action: matsuura shrugs [00:22] It just so happens that you can often get away with it, and for some packages (like binary repackagings) it's almost always okay, but the general idea holds. [00:22] never had any issues.. [00:22] "YET" [00:22] ah, I understand [00:23] BP{k}: yeah, yet.. that's the problem.. [00:23] :p [00:23] Had you installed that qt package, "yet" would be "oh shit" [00:23] matsuura: it's pretty much like playing tennis with a handgrenade, sure it all sounds cool and fun, but at some point you can expect the pin to missing .. and then really "Mister Handgrenade is no longer your friend". [00:23] Na, not really.. I'd fix my problem up [00:23] hey rworkman [00:24] just seems like if there is potential problem, the best way to avoid it is to ensure that users do not update, or atleast warn [00:24] or well, install from current from whatever release they are using [00:24] matsuura: you mean like CURRENT.WARNING? [00:24] BP{k}: lmao [00:24] matsuura: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/CURRENT.WARNING [00:24] >_> [00:24] Goes to show how much I read those types of things :( [00:24] matsuura: how the heck is the slackware team responsible for people not able to read something. (the answer is simple: they aren't) [00:25] BP{k}: na, that's not what I'm saying [00:25] seeing that I failed to read some docs, well, yeah [00:25] Cann0n: hey hey :) [00:25] <_< [00:25] BP{k}, lol [00:25] All is well - it's a good day, because you learned something new :) [00:26] Eh, dude, I learn things all day everyday [00:26] D; [00:26] this is a plus kind of though [00:26] kind of sat around as common sense though... Just thought I'd question it anyways :p [00:26] from CURRENT.WARNING: #include BSD license warranty disclaimer here... [00:26] nice touch there [00:27] :p [00:28] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) left irc: "Leaving" [00:31] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.132.86) left irc: "leaving" [00:33] rworkman: agentc0re psychicist : thanks for the input :) [00:35] antler: You want me to give it a try in building it? (i use slamd64) [00:36] q0_0p (n=pan@ppp-69-148-16-198.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] agentc0re: ok. i'll boot into slamd now and try it again as well. brb. [00:37] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: " " [00:42] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:44] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [00:44] agentc0re: ok, so it just started compiling [00:45] antler: downloading it all now myself. [00:47] damn "klauncher could not be reached via dcop" :P .... restart x, i guess :( [00:47] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:54] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:56] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-220-146.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:56] rworkman: so who all maintains slackware? [00:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:58] matsuura: THE maintainer is Patrick Volkerding. A few others are on the core team, and then there are lots and lots of users that contribute. [00:58] So who are the few others on the core team? [00:59] a handful of fine gentlemen [00:59] Who? [00:59] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:59] http://rlworkman.net/slackshowbrasil/slackware.pdf [01:00] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] q0_0p (n=pan@ppp-69-148-16-198.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:00] vutrong (n=vutrong@222.253.79.170) joined ##slackware. [01:00] rworkman: don't talk down to me.. I'll put your ass down >:| [01:01] this is amazing [01:01] :p [01:01] yet another great example of a skewed reality [01:01] Happens [01:01] :( [01:02] matsuura: we you joking when you talked to rworkman like that? [01:02] thumbs: absolutely [01:02] o_o [01:03] Why would I talk to Robby Workman like that [01:03] o_o [01:03] matsuura: Pro Tip: grep for names in /etc [01:03] He is a great man [01:03] ... [01:03] matsuura: just checking. [01:03] nullboy: hmm? [01:03] just read the Pro Tip and execute. [01:03] nullboy: didn't think people would be in my configs [01:03] D: [01:04] sudo grep workman etc/ -r [01:04] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:04] nullboy: .... o_o [01:04] I know how to use grep o_o [01:04] Im in your configz, stealin yer bash [01:04] that's great! [01:04] good work [01:05] matsuura: the point of the pdf was that it has a listing of the team members. [01:05] rworkman: I know this... [01:05] How do you think I knew your name? [01:05] O_o [01:05] you sure know a lot all of a sudden [01:05] Just making sure :0 [01:05] nullboy: ever since he sent that pdf [01:05] o_o [01:06] nullboy: [05:03] < matsuura> Why would I talk to Robby Workman like that [01:06] [05:03] < matsuura> o_o [01:06] [05:03] < nullboy> matsuura: Pro Tip: grep for names in /etc [01:06] like magic :O [01:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:07] matsuura: are you on crack? [01:07] nullboy: no... [01:07] Are you? [01:07] Okay, RFC here... I'm slated to do a packet filtering talk at the southeast linux fest (USA) in June. Aside from the obvious intro to netfilter/iptables, how much background info should I throw in? [01:07] nullboy: you're not in my configs... [01:08] lmao [01:08] As in, "What is a firewall?" type stuff. [01:08] rworkman: give an brief explanation of basics... [01:08] rworkman: let everyone know that what they think is a "hardware" firewall...their linkydinky blue fisherprice thing...is really just running linux [01:08] ;) [01:09] "but it's hardware!?!" [01:09] I like analogies -- I'm thinking of a bar and bouncer type analogy. Re "hardware" firewalls, yeah definitely. [01:10] psychicist (n=psychici@195-241-68-222.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:10] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:10] psychicist (n=psychici@195-241-68-222.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:11] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Leaving" [01:11] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:11] freack (i=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [01:11] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] So I have this laptop with a synaptics touchpad and all.. It was working fine once upon a time but, when I updated, some config was over written and my touchpad hasn't worked since then.. I suddenly care about it now... Anything special you have to do to get it working? [01:11] matsuura: lsmod | grep psmouse [01:11] matsuura: check /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse [01:12] follow edman007's way and stop using it and buy an external mouse. :P [01:12] rworkman: psmouse 45200 0 [01:13] nullboy: what would I be looking for? [01:13] matsuura: in that case, probably you need to see CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT for 12.2 - htere's a section detailing issues with synaptics [01:14] rworkman: gotcha.. Sec.. [01:14] bono (i=bono@118-160-166-44.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] rworkman: also, like this pdf [01:14] cool stuff :D [01:15] :) [01:15] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] wouerner (n=wouerner@187-4-90-209.bsaco701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:16] matsuura: check this one out: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nps/decep_detec.htm [01:16] hi i have installed vbox 2.1.4 and i set enable USBs in VM (winXP) but when run USB Devices are listed but are locked, anyone could suggest me something? [01:17] rworkman: ah yeah, I remember having to do a shitton more to get this working.. I don't particularily feel like restarting X though, so I'm probably going to procrastinate about fixing this for a other few weeks [01:17] Thanks though [01:17] D: [01:17] haha [01:18] dartmouth: Hahaha, excellent topic :p [01:18] ovnicraft: do you only have one VM? [01:18] dartmouth: should throw IRC in there somewhere [01:18] <_< [01:18] matsuura: im reading another one that touches on something similar. very creepy stuff. [01:18] no i get a linux also [01:18] ovnicraft: Does usb work in that other one? [01:19] nope [01:19] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:19] rworkman: ah, yeah, restarted X actually and umm, no go ;_; [01:20] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:20] I have a feeling you set me up for failure.. [01:20] ;_; [01:20] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] ovnicraft: Hrmm. might wanna ask in #vbox [01:21] I think their on freenode. [01:21] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [01:21] or wait, maybe it's this one line in rc.modules [01:21] i am there, no answers :( [01:21] http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nps/decep_detec.htm [01:21] err [01:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:21] modprobe psmouse proto=any [01:22] matsuura: you might have to untar the source to get to the docs, but there is some xorg.conf setup required [01:23] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:23] rworkman: untar what source? [01:23] O_o [01:24] Must have missed something [01:24] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] xf86-input-synaptics tarball [01:24] yeah, was doing that right as you said it [01:24] :p [01:25] http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ is an old site, but the info should still be mostly correct [01:25] Alright, thanks.. I'll take a look.. [01:26] Hello [01:26] Motoko-chan: greets [01:26] BP{k}: So Thunderhead IPA, not so great of an IPA. I don't recommend it. [01:26] I love T-Mobile tech support. [01:27] Motoko-chan: ... Could be good, could be bad. What happened? [01:27] I was having an issue with my G1. [01:27] Motoko-chan: I mean hopefully they are better than the Verizon Math team. Did you hear about that one? [01:27] Turns out my SIM (three years old) might be too old and is causing problems with the 3G connection. [01:28] So, I just need to go to the local store and get a free new one. [01:28] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] rworkman: I can almost gaurentee that most of my problems are coming from load "synaptics" being commented out for some strange reason in my xorg.config D: [01:28] Oh, and since the screen is a little wobbly, they also noted on my account that I can get a warranty replacement (new unit, not refurb). [01:28] anyone have an idea when the next release of slackware will be? [01:28] fluxnuk3r: Tomorrow [01:29] fluxnuk3r: Tomorrows answer: Tomorrow [01:29] :P [01:29] lol [01:29] Possibly, the store can do it. If not, they'll do an exchange via mail/package [01:29] thanks. i think.. [01:29] fluxnuk3r: Real answer, It'll be released when it's ready. [01:30] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-237-227-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [01:30] matsuura: yep, that would do it. :) [01:30] fluxnuk3r: So the real question is, why do you want a new release? Are you having an issue? [01:31] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [01:31] agentc0re: noted. ;) [01:32] just noticed on slackbuilds, that nvidia driver and nvidia kernel are both the exact same files. Is this suposed to be that way? [01:33] yeah and because there are two parts [01:33] lol [01:33] agentc0re: had issues with 12.2. im using 12.1 again.. [01:33] fluxnuk3r: What issues? [01:33] never noticed that before [01:34] BP{k}: i went to the "larger" liquor store today, but their beer selection sucked ass compared to the "smaller" liquor store i went to last week. [01:34] sound refused to work. programs crashed on me for no apparent reason. and it didnt "feel" like the typical slackware [01:34] BP{k}: So i didn't get a lot of choices in new beers. [01:35] fluxnuk3r: Sound not working may have been a kernel issue. Did you try a different one? (Maybe you've already been down this road and have asked for help) [01:35] agentc0re: that's crap :\ [01:35] I have currently a nice selection of older and new ales around [01:36] agentc0re: I worked for a while trying to fix it. stumped everyone in here. switched back. [01:37] BP{k}: Driving directions please. :) [01:38] BP{k}: I just put some harp and Gennuis in the freezer. I can't forget it about it... but it needs to be colder than it is. So i'm waiting with a Full Sail Amber. [01:39] yxz97 (n=yxz97@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [01:39] agentc0re: due west till you his that big pond of water, then north ;) [01:39] -ish [01:39] i swear everyone in this channel is either an alchoholic or well on their way to becoming one [01:40] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:40] frullet: I recovered once. [01:40] BP{k}: lol, big pond would be the Pacific Ocean. :P [01:40] agentc0re: well go north, then swim around the norwest passage :P [01:40] frullet: I don't drink [01:40] :) [01:40] yes you do. [01:40] :( [01:41] Correction, I don't drink alchoholic beverages***... ? [01:41] :O [01:41] I'm not an alcoholic, and I have no intention of attending one of those meetings. [01:41] frullet: I never drink before 10am, which is the golden rule of not being an Alcoholic. :D [01:41] agentc0re: lmao... That's some bullshhit [01:41] xD [01:41] agentc0re: I never drink before 5 o'clock [01:42] but .. it's always 5 o'clock somewhere :) [01:42] Action: rworkman takes a nother stip of the Samuel Adams Black Lager... [01:42] BP{k}: LMAO [01:42] wouerner (n=wouerner@187-4-90-209.bsaco701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:42] Action: rworkman can't type either. Geez, I've only had two, I promise. [01:42] rworkman: I saw that in the store today, but decided to pass on it. Is it pretty good? [01:43] Do use get VB over in the US? [01:43] agentc0re: it's not my favorite, to be honest. It's a bit, um, I don't know the word. I prefer others. [01:43] rworkman: Is it thick and mucky? [01:43] Xingu from Brazil is *awesome* if you can find it. The German Warsteiner Dunkel is very good too. [01:43] tastes like goat piss? [01:43] rworkman: Thats how i thought of it when i looked at it. [01:44] vdsy (n=vdsy@S010600240132d8cc.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] No, it's decent. It's just a bit something that I don't like as much as others. [01:44] It beats the hell out of any "typical" beer though. [01:44] Color? [01:44] Weight? [01:44] Heritage? [01:44] >:| [01:44] google? [01:44] vdsy (n=vdsy@S010600240132d8cc.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:44] BP{k}: hmm... [01:44] Color is fine - I *prefer* dark beers. There's a flavor in it that I don't care much for. [01:45] It's almost like a Guiness flavor, I guess. [01:45] rworkman: describe this, "flavor" [01:45] ah, I see [01:45] (and I don't like Guiness much) [01:45] Had chocolate guiness cake for st patricks :o [01:45] reminded me of love [01:46] Xingu has a hint of chocolate - it's absolutely wonderful. [01:46] :O [01:46] Sam Adams Black has a hint of caramel, so maybe that's what I don't like. No idea really, because I do like caramel. [01:46] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] I think I'll hit a Shiner Bock next - I can't say anything bad about it :) [01:47] Shiner box is good. [01:47] err bock [01:48] yep eyp [01:48] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:48] what is the easier way to type when your hands are really cold? [01:48] ragsagar (n=ragsagar@59.93.9.85) joined ##slackware. [01:49] I usually make do with what I can [01:49] that's about it [01:49] quit [01:49] ugh [01:49] quit what? [01:49] dumb keyboard [01:49] o_o [01:49] im on a jornada 680 [01:49] why? [01:49] give me a break. [01:49] because I can. [01:49] no one is giving you a hard time... [01:49] :P [01:49] nope. just me [01:49] lol [01:50] l8r [01:50] some scirpts in rc.d is causing Kernel Panic . i removed rc.inet1 and rc.inet2 from rc,d , now i am able to boot normally, but unable to get connected to internet [01:50] o_o [01:50] fluxnuk3r: It only types what you want, yeesh. :P [01:50] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:50] sometimes keyboards have minds of its own [01:50] :O [01:51] dude [01:51] you disabled rc.inet1 and rc.inet2 [01:51] and when startx is fired , only cursor is appearing and error is some thing .Xauthority file not found , but it is there [01:51] lol [01:51] none of the network scripts are running now [01:51] NONE [01:51] nullboy, but it is causing kernel panic [01:51] ragsagar: is this a new install? [01:51] one week old installation [01:52] all this after i changed a symilnk to SYstem.Map [01:52] ragsagar: did you have an unexpected shutdown or a fsck scan during a boot? [01:52] for patching kernel with bootsplash [01:52] ... [01:52] agentc0re, , had a unexpected shutdown, as my ups is not working [01:53] just changing that symlink would not destroy the system [01:53] i'd blame the power loss [01:53] you probably corrupted the disk [01:53] but i was able to boot after that [01:53] so? [01:53] ragsagar: power loss may have caused some corrupted files on the harddrive. [01:53] nullboy, i am able to boot into system [01:53] right [01:53] ... [01:53] just because you can boot into the system doesn't mean the powerloss didn't mess it up [01:54] after moving rc.inet1 and rc.inet2 to somewhere else [01:54] ragsagar: just because you lost a little doesn't mean it wont boot. Do a fresh install and then see if you still have the problem. [01:54] ragsagar: Get your ups fixed or don't use it at all. [01:54] if you took a power hit so hard the UPS fried i don't know what to tell you about the system [01:55] i wouldn't have even plugged it back in without a good UPS after that [01:55] who knows what happened since [01:55] but i was able to work normally after powerloss [01:55] that doesn't mean anything [01:55] after that everything went wrong [01:56] agentc0re: fresh install seems rather drastic, what happens when maunally running inet1 and then inet2, which one is causing the kenel panic [01:56] rc.inet1 is going to be using netwokr drivers. i would reinstall the kernel and module packages as a test [01:57] back up /etc first [01:58] xdan779: It takes 10 min(or so) to reinstall. I don't think it's that drastic. Easier than sometimes guessing at what might not be there. [01:58] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:58] when booting with inet1 script, some stange 100 of lines of error appears, at the "end trace " [01:58] or something [01:58] sounds like an oops [01:58] agentc0re, 10min? [01:59] ragsagar: reinstall the kernel and module packages using upgradepkg --reinstall [01:59] start there, no harm will be done [01:59] ragsagar: Maybe 20 min max. I dunno, it's quick for me on most the machines i've ever installed it on. [01:59] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:59] i reinstalled kernel package , but no modules [01:59] so do it now [02:00] agentc0re, it took more than 30mins in my system even without kde [02:00] whatever [02:00] do you want to talk about reinstall times or talk about fixing it? [02:00] nullboy, will it install the required packages from dvd? [02:00] if you have the slackware dvd, yes [02:00] ok thanks [02:00] brb [02:00] ragsagar (n=ragsagar@59.93.9.85) left irc: "Leaving" [02:00] i'm not sure wtf just happened [02:01] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:01] agentc0re: if you have not installed anything beyond whats on the slack disk perhaps, but why guess what went wrong [02:01] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] roccity__ (n=quassel@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [02:02] well we'll know if it was something to do with the kernel/modules in a minute [02:02] roccity__ (n=quassel@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [02:02] if it's worse than that there might be more to his story [02:02] like 'oh i upgraded glibc' [02:03] nullboy: as he even stated he was messing with the kernel before hand, it seems likely [02:03] nullboy: It was probably the power outage. It's happened to me once at work. [02:03] But well see. [02:03] yeah [02:03] I'm not taking bets. [02:03] same here, i'm crazy about power feeds now [02:03] lol [02:03] i won't run my fileserver without UPS [02:04] Every machine I own has a UPS of some sort. [02:04] can understand that one [02:05] jawsh569 (n=jawsh569@adsl-75-23-67-231.dsl.peoril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:07] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [02:12] Anyone still awake play Call of Duty, Word at War on the 360? I am in a Zombie killing mood. :) [02:13] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-157-245.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:16] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:19] meh @ qt4 still compiling [02:23] No that's gentoo. [02:24] ;-) [02:24] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) joined ##slackware. [02:26] yxz97 (n=yxz97@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [02:26] Zosma: na, it's slackware [02:27] Zosma: Gentoo will grab every known potentially useful component it sees linked with a dependency and compile the fuck out of it [02:27] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [02:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) joined ##slackware. [02:27] 4 days later, you can use xmms [02:27] :\ [02:27] ragsagar (i=0@59.93.13.78) joined ##slackware. [02:27] while that is a huge exxageration.. I do compile most applications I use here on slackware, so I don't care too much [02:28] "Gentoo will grab every known potentially useful component it sees linked with a dependency and compile the fuck out of it" [02:28] though, qt4 is taking tooo long [02:28] nullboy, Iam from slackware :-) [02:28] ragsagar: all better? [02:28] nullboy: ....? [02:28] that's gnarly [02:29] what's gnarly? O_o [02:29] nullboy, ran upgradepkg --reinstall *.tgz inside /mnt/cdrom/slackware/a/ [02:29] "gnarly" is that an FSF project? [02:29] ragsagar: is it broken or fixed? [02:29] and upgradepkg --reinstall rp-pppoe.tgz [02:30] nullboy, in which directory i can find modules in dvd? [02:30] in a/ [02:30] ok :) [02:31] ragsagar: look in the 'filelist.txt' file on the DVD, but those should be in 'a' [02:31] i installed all binaries in slackware/a [02:31] is it working now or not? [02:31] yeah, now iam to connect to internet [02:31] great [02:32] brb [02:32] ragsagar (i=0@59.93.13.78) left irc: Client Quit [02:32] let the remote exploitation begin [02:32] i=0 yup [02:32] lol [02:32] rworkman: LOL this really happened? http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=607 [02:33] this is way not cool http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1475 [02:33] lmao... [02:33] freack (i=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [02:33] LMVO [02:34] s/lmvo/lmao [02:34] dunno how i did that one. [02:34] agentc0re: no, it's a joke :) [02:34] rworkman: Damn, that would have been awesome other wise. [02:34] "no" which part is no.. the woman? or licking thy ass in the road :) [02:34] but it sounds like something I'd do, huh? :D [02:35] rworkman: Totally! :D [02:35] Aside from the licking my ass part. [02:35] hahah :) [02:35] I'm not that flexible. [02:35] rworkman: No you see, thats where all the pieces fit in for me ;) [02:35] you'd never leave the house. I know I wouldn't. [02:35] Don't even go there. [02:35] haha [02:35] Old_Fogie: you think you'd like licking your ass? ;DD [02:36] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.13.78) joined ##slackware. [02:36] Well, it's one thing I ain't never done before, so .. life is short and all. [02:36] I'd hate to go to the big house, and find out what I been missing :) [02:36] lolol [02:36] nullboy: xinit: Resource temporarily unavailable (errno 11): unable to connect to X server [02:37] i can only see a cursor when running startx as normal user [02:37] xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. [02:37] xauth: error in locking authority file /home/ragsagar/.Xauthority [02:38] ragsagar: well to be honest, you dont want to be running X as root anyhow, fwiw, so no big loss there in my book. [02:38] can you paste 3 more lines all at once? [02:38] I ?think? 3 is max [02:39] i will get kicked :p [02:39] ragsagar: you can do 4 then [02:39] haha [02:39] LOL [02:39] nullboy: well I think there's some time in the equation tho [02:39] OH SHIT, i just remembered beer i put in the freezer. brb. [02:39] beernade [02:39] jawsh569_ (n=jawsh569@adsl-75-23-67-231.dsl.peoril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:40] in the "freezer" you better run, that could be alcohol abuse in some parts. [02:40] don't drink frozen beer [02:40] yea beer in the freezer no good, the kids'll think it's a popcicle [02:40] what you guys think the problem is ? i am unable to startx as normal user [02:40] hmmm, beer cubes... /me calls the patent office [02:41] Oh thank god it didn't feeze. I was really looking forward to my half and half with harp and Guinness extra stout. :) :) [02:41] ragsagar: rm /home/ragsagar/.Xauthority [02:41] agentc0re: did vlc compile for your? [02:41] btw, are you starting X from X? :) [02:42] antler: oh shit, i forgot. [02:42] lol [02:42] that's awesome. [02:42] agentc0re: hahah [02:42] i'm so leet i start X from X [02:42] antler: Ahh.. I blame teh beerz :P [02:42] gbonvehi: i removed that file and tried start, still the same error [02:42] nullboy: Everyone's doing it. [02:42] antler: Looks like i need to install yasm. [02:43] agentc0re: beer's good :P [02:43] if there is one thing I miss about the cold weather leaving is the ice cold never frozen beer the garage was able to provide [02:43] agentc0re: yah [02:43] when i was up in edmonton we just put them out in the snow [02:43] nullboy: that's what you ask after drinking fernet [02:43] haha [02:44] beer...hmmmm [02:44] beer is gone here [02:44] game over [02:44] ragsagar: can you create the file using touch? [02:45] ok [02:45] antler: Doing that now :D [02:45] gbonvehi: god! it worked :) [02:46] ragsagar: what, touch or X ? :P [02:46] both :p [02:46] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.13.78) left irc: "bb from xchat :)" [02:46] ragsagar: great, i'll drink more fernet then, it seems it helps [02:47] mmm uid 1000 xchat.. he was on X with his user, damn lier [02:47] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.13.78) joined ##slackware. [02:47] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [02:48] gbonvehi, thanks :) [02:48] yw [02:48] Action: antler is eating cold pizza and dipping it in the sauce that comes with hot wings. yum. [02:49] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:49] Action: ragsagar hate pizzas [02:50] .. You hate pizza? What kind of person are you? [02:51] blasphemous blasphemer blaspheming blasphemy [02:51] So Guinness extra stout didn't make for a good half and half. It went right through the harp. I have the bent back "im a heroin" spoon and i pored it slowly too. It's all just one big black mess now. [02:51] antler: VLC is compiling now. [02:51] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:51] agentc0re, he he [02:52] agentc0re: yeah, you *might* see a plugin error later :P [02:52] agentc0re, my stable food is rice ! [02:52] ragsagar: Hating pizza is no Joke. It's tabbu to even mention in this channel. [02:52] Action: antler wants some unstable rice. [02:52] rice is the staple food for most of the world [02:53] Action: jkwood staples nullboy to the wall [02:53] pizzas is not so easily available here [02:53] Action: nullboy hangs and bleeds [02:53] s/is/are [02:53] Action: antler gives nullboy a staple remover [02:53] Action: agentc0re tickles nullboy [02:53] fag [02:53] ragsagar: where are you from? [02:53] matsuura: lol [02:54] India [02:54] lol [02:54] where's your mamma from? [02:55] mmmmmmmm hot indian food :) [02:55] vatgas (n=val@123.145.49.80) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:55] spicy, i mean [02:55] matsuura: hehe yes (about the Gentoo thingy); was a bit of a joke really. [02:56] Ah men firealarm went off, 4 hours of sleep :'( [02:56] Zosma: hmm? [02:56] was it for real or false? [02:56] or* [02:56] both [02:56] False luckily. [02:56] damn false alarms [02:57] But still annoying :-P [02:57] Yeah. [02:57] I set off the firealarmsall the time while smoking weed in the hallways [02:57] o_o [02:57] They recently increased the pitch and the volume to like 120dB or something? It hurts the ears. [02:57] eep [02:57] Student appartment so mmm. [02:57] Sounds like fun. [02:57] student apartments [02:57] meh [02:57] D: [02:57] Yeah great way to wake up :-D [02:57] seriously [02:57] You should put duct tape over them like the good student you are. [02:57] especially for like, an exam! [02:57] :D [02:57] Hehe. [02:58] one place i worked for had an alarm that was so loud it would cause pain, you couldn't even think [02:58] nullboy: sounds loud [02:58] i hated that thing though [02:58] so guys, i'm about to head to the store, what should I buy? [02:58] a life [02:58] can't [02:58] they don't have any [02:59] matsuura: a metal spoon, baking power, and a lighter [02:59] chopp: however, I am in school these days so, the only life I have is that of studying D: [02:59] antler: o_o [02:59] okay, let me rephrase this, hopefully for the better. I am headed to the store to grab some snacks, what should I get? [02:59] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.13.78) left irc: "Leaving" [02:59] go get 1 bottle of water, 3ft worth of shoestring liquorice, two astropops, 2 bags of m&m's and one bottle of scotch [03:00] Buy a nerf gun and annoy your coworkers. [03:00] nullboy: oh fuck [03:00] :O [03:00] and bandage [03:00] lmao [03:00] man, how about munch! [03:00] shit, nullboy is closest [03:00] think I may just go that route [03:00] it's diabolical [03:00] I believe it [03:01] :D [03:01] what kind of m&ms? [03:01] there's like 40 kinds now [03:01] D: [03:01] and when was easter? [03:01] O_o [03:01] this will be an ammunition test. all kinds [03:01] haha [03:04] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [03:04] fucking xeroxat [03:04] mm [03:04] g'morning @all [03:04] sup [03:04] so...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker [03:05] lol [03:05] 9-15m bots? [03:05] never had that problem [03:05] + [03:07] how do research companies get the clearance to do scan sweeps? [03:08] can anyone go to an ISP and ask for auth to do a subnet scan? [03:08] I will [03:08] tommorow [03:08] err, monday [03:08] all the NOC guys are gone right now [03:12] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:12] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-154-194.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:13] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [03:15] does the mplayer slackbuild not work for anyone else? [03:15] aceofspades19: i've been using svn pulls for a long time now [03:20] i'm on 29092 right now [03:21] nullboy: i've been so lazy... I have tried to compile mplayer like, 200 years ago and was getting some stupid error that made no sense really.. seemed like a dependency issue none the less.. [03:22] What all do you need to have mplayer compiled? [03:22] I'm pretty damn sure I have compiled it quite a few times in the past [03:22] have no idea what I'm missing though [03:22] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/12.2/multimedia/mplayer/README [03:23] install the codecs first [03:23] really? i always install them after mplayer [03:23] is slackbuilds like the sex of slackware or something? [03:23] never really checked that place out [03:23] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [03:23] matsuura: it's package pr0n [03:23] antler: yeah, I usually do too [03:24] nullboy: there is stuff I like to enable and disable during compile sir [03:24] :( [03:24] so? [03:24] it's a script... [03:24] i make them how i want them to be [03:24] Ah, thought you said it was a package [03:24] I'll check that stuff out... [03:25] antler: Okay, got the plugin error. it's expecting libvlcplugin.so in ./projects/mozilla/.libs/ dir. is that where it was asking for yours? [03:25] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] agentc0re: yeah, i think so... [03:28] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [03:30] antler: http://pastebin.learnix.net/23 something like that? [03:31] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.228) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:34] agentc0re: yeah [03:34] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:35] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [03:35] agentc0re: exactly that, i believe [03:39] vatgas (n=val@123.145.75.104) joined ##slackware. [03:44] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:44] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. 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[04:27] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.228) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:28] wow is it possible that a package built from a script at sbo is dependent on another package, which in turn is dependent on some other, and so on ad nauseum? was going to do gparted, but nah. :P [04:28] yes there are some dep chains like that [04:28] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:28] you can pretty much go totally wild if you wanted ot install every gnome related package [04:29] i just group sets of SBo packages together [04:31] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-65-157-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [04:31] yeah, me too usually [04:32] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:35] yht|off (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:36] yht|off (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. 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[06:57] :) its a joke or what [06:57] it is linuxdcpp-1.0.3 [06:58] oh ok [06:59] D-r_Flower: well anyway, you could just reinterpret_cast (arg) [06:59] mirash (n=user@117.196.130.146) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:00] i am not programmer, [07:01] but from theyr chanal someone suggest me to change SConstruct [07:02] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:03] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:04] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [07:05] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [07:07] t0f (n=foo@4.238.231.33) joined ##slackware. [07:11] xlq do u have the program compiled? [07:14] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:14] D-r_Flower: no [07:20] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-190-184.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:46] #ubuntu ? :D [07:46] heh [07:47] #remote-exploit [07:47] thanks [07:48] you're welcome [07:48] xlq i did it [07:49] ok [07:49] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-36.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:50] me_ (n=me_@92.24.57.14) joined ##slackware. [07:51] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:54] at (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:54] at kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: No, suck this. ##slackware != ##slackware_derivatives [07:56] Sergio_ (n=Sergio@201008249037.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:27] I'm having an annoying problem when using my Hauppuge wintv-go tv card in linux, the kernel crashes or the system sudenly can lockup after a period of watching tv, I have tried a lot of things without sucess like different kernels and so, I dont know what is the last resort [08:27] reading the logs? [08:28] yes [08:29] inetic (n=inetic@chello082119124030.chello.sk) joined ##slackware. [08:29] xlq (n=xlq@88-106-65-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("NULL"). [08:29] I have tried with another card of different brand and the same [08:31] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] chb (n=chb@host81-181-238-85.hiway.at) joined ##slackware. [08:34] mirash1 (n=user@117.196.133.47) joined ##slackware. [08:36] i used to muck around with TV cards, they are more trouble than they are worth, i decided to buy an LCD HDTV that is PC compatable makeing my PC just another channel on television (works great!) :D [08:38] my brother has a TV card and he uses WinXP and when he is watching TV with the card his CPU is running @ 75 to 80 % consumed, either the hardware or software to run em is crap or both [08:40] I just bought it for capturing VHS tapes, It did work fine under windows XP with the oem drivers but it doesnt work as expected under linux [08:40] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:41] I gotta try it under freebsd someday [08:42] I will try to report the bug to the kernel developers but I need to browse a recent kernel tree [08:42] i have one VHS tape i want to rip to DVD or mpg file, that cartoon movie "Heavy Metal" with all the rock music and that little green ball from outer space that causes all that trouble for everyone [08:44] anyone got kbluetooth to work on 12.2? [08:44] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kde-bluetooth-dies-693167/ [08:44] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-190-184.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:45] nille_: bluetooth works fine for me [08:45] have hald working with all of that fanciness [08:46] and you didn't have any problems getting it to work? [08:46] no [08:47] well i can't get kbluetooth to work [08:47] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. 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[09:12] mirash (n=user@117.196.131.103) joined ##slackware. [09:17] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [09:17] l4m4_m4n (i=57f8a441@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-abcdad9b7ce6837b) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Hello, world! [09:19] Do somebody know why a modem + router + wi-fi access point is seen by wireless enabled devices but none of them are able to connect to it? [09:19] connect to router of course. [09:19] doesnt ask for a password ? [09:20] how do you try to connect? [09:20] do you use wicd? [09:20] I set up in rc.inet1 everithing [09:21] and at boot time or /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart it does not connect [09:21] can you patebin your rc.inet1.conf? [09:21] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [09:21] mirash1 (n=user@117.196.130.61) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:21] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:21] :) that would be a problem, I am on another computer [09:21] do you use wpa or wep? [09:21] wep [09:21] mirash1 (n=user@117.196.133.36) joined ##slackware. [09:22] but on pda I have the same problem [09:22] may it be because the router is broken I do something stupid? [09:23] may it be because the router is broken or I do something stupid? [09:23] I mean something stupid in rc.inet1 [09:23] have u tryed to reboot the router ? [09:23] yes [09:24] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] a wireless router is basically a two-way radio, do not turn it on with the antennas disconnected as it may burn out the final transistors used for transmitting radio waves, and dont replace the antennas unless you know exactly what you are doing [09:25] I have used the modem+router+wi-fi with another wi-fi router and wi-fi works but not lan [09:25] the wired part? [09:25] ethernet [09:25] yes [09:26] it works but not always [09:26] amigo_rich (n=richard@92-232-223-69.cable.ubr08.shef.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [09:26] May it be that the modem+router+wi-fi is broken? [09:27] :) [09:27] i noticed my Linksys wifi router wants to give my wireless PC the first ip address 192.168.1.100, and the ethernet PCs the next ones up, but without wireless the wired PCs will take a step back to the first ip address [09:28] have you read http://wiki.alienbase.nl/doku.php?id=slackware:network [09:28] make sure you dont have a crossover cable, and the crossover switch is off [09:28] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:29] nille_: I have red /usr/doc/Linux-HOWTO's [09:29] marctw (n=marctw@94.187.92.95) joined ##slackware. [09:29] How can i enable or disable the ssh service? [09:29] i have an /etc/ssh/ssh_config % sshd_config [09:29] nille_: But it seems that something is wrong with my modem, in windows it doesn't work too. [09:30] mirash2 (n=user@117.196.129.207) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:30] mirash2 (n=user@117.196.133.253) joined ##slackware. [09:30] so? [09:30] but every line in each file is commented out [09:30] and there is no ssh entry in inetd.conf [09:31] marctw: they're commented because those are the default values. Uncomment them and make your change3s [09:31] should i just delete /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd ? [09:31] /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd start [09:31] when i bought my wifi router i ended up taking it back because i think the damn cheapskates at the store put returned items back on the shelf for customers to buy again instead of sending them back to the manufacturer, so i had to return a lemon of a wifi router that would not work and make them replace it with a good one [09:32] marctw do you mean like ' chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd' or 'chmod 644 /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd' [09:33] Ok, thank you for your answers. I will buy another one. This one is from... I don't even know where it is from :) [09:33] l4m4_m4n in that case i would try a factory reset and then maybe try to upgrade the router firmware [09:33] working [09:34] I did what phrag told me [09:34] a firmware upgrade could fix it, just be sure to get the exact one for that particular router model number [09:34] nille_: i will try factory reeset but there is no firmware update. [09:34] where can i control whether ssh loads at boot time??? [09:34] mirash (n=user@117.196.131.103) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:35] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn25.91-127-9.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [09:35] then try reload the latest one if you can if there's something wrong [09:35] marctv: do chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd as root [09:35] marctw chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd [09:35] thank you!!! I will try to do that. [09:35] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:36] Just need to find it first. and the manufacturer didn't even answer to my email [09:37] seriously [09:37] please.. what to do? [09:38] where can i control whether ssh loads at boot time??? [09:38] that what we typed before [09:38] chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd [09:38] as root of course [09:38] :) [09:38] if you make that script executable then it will be run on boot [09:39] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.193.179) joined ##slackware. [09:39] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-65-157-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:39] thanks alot [09:39] l4m4_m4n what vendor is it and model? [09:39] :))) [09:39] F**k! On cd is no firmware!!! [09:39] nille_ your rock man thanks alot [09:40] nille_: ENCORE Electronics endsl-a2+wigx2 firmware [09:40] nille_: ENCORE Electronics endsl-a2+wigx2 [09:41] you got mac adress not the last part the first is vendor (it might be a rebranded one) [09:43] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [09:43] nille_: http://www.encore-usa.com/product_item.php?region=us&bid=2&pgid=1&pid=405 [09:43] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.216.212.3) joined ##slackware. [09:45] according to my quick google it seems that to upgrade firmware is done with ftp from the web interface [09:45] mirash1 (n=user@117.196.133.36) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:45] t0f (n=foo@4.238.231.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:46] mirash2 (n=user@117.196.133.253) left irc: "Leaving" [09:47] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [09:48] ok, I will try to do upgrade now butt... see you soon! [09:49] HAHAHA, it is not possible. I can do it just if I have the upgrades on my pc [09:49] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.52.147.209) joined ##slackware. [09:49] habtool (n=habtool@86.41.65.157) joined ##slackware. [09:50] someone can confirm if "Qt 4 SDK" has inserted into the current ? [09:50] probably somebody did what Pig_Pen have said not to do [09:51] probably one of the transistors have burned [09:52] can someboy confirm to me if "Qt 4 SDK" came with current ? [09:52] l4m4_m4n do you use vista as windows? [09:52] xp [09:53] But I don't use M$ s**t [09:53] i only found an firmware for the non x2 one [09:53] I don't think it would be good. let me checlk [09:53] i thought about the dhcp release thing that troubled some vista users [09:53] I don't think it would be good. let me check [09:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-143-248.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:54] I will trey to assign ip's manually [09:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-144-176.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [09:54] yes do that [09:55] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [09:55] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:55] but I think that I have tried that once [09:55] don't remember [09:55] ok, see you later from my slackware machine :) [09:56] Action: l4m4_m4n evil [09:56] :) [09:56] at last I hope so [09:56] l4m4_m4n (i=57f8a441@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-abcdad9b7ce6837b) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [09:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:04] l4m4_m4n (i=57f8a441@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d89d2b64ab6d625) joined ##slackware. [10:05] l4m4_m4n (i=57f8a441@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d89d2b64ab6d625) left irc: Client Quit [10:06] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:08] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.216.212.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:08] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[10:39] yeah, old man winter is going away for a while but he wants to put up a fight like any cantankerous old man [10:39] lovely weather here too! [10:39] i must go outside and do... something =P [10:40] if the lawn drys out good i will push the lawnmower around today [10:40] ^me_^ (n=me_@89.242.86.135) joined ##slackware. [10:40] ^me_^ (n=me_@89.242.86.135) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:41] i'm gonna go fix my bike, been putting it off for ages =P [10:41] then i must do some work, but i'll wait till the sun goes down =) [10:42] bicycle? [10:43] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:43] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:43] why yes, we all can't afford a car =P [10:43] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.80.226) left irc: "Quit" [10:44] you get really good gas milage riding a bicycle :) [10:45] infinity miles to the gallon is awesome - fitness off course =P [10:45] you need to pay for extra protein in your diet [10:45] yea, 40 watts an hour in average energy used riding a bicycle [10:45] false economy [10:45] which puts me at about 1/2 a mile =P [10:46] hey, using konqueror for ftp does it create a log anywhere? [10:47] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE7D02.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] maybe in konqueror's history [10:47] me__ (n=me_@89.242.86.135) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:48] not really a log but it shows what you did [10:48] me_ (n=me_@78.149.217.205) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:50] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:50] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:50] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE7D02.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [10:51] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A73CFA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] greetings [10:51] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [10:52] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] hi slackytude [10:52] noobfarm is up again \o/ [10:52] yo hitest [10:52] Action: edman007 waves [10:52] yeah its up [10:53] :) [10:53] I just had to reboot the server.. trying to imiplement grsecurity [10:53] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [10:53] what a PITA [10:53] Action: Dominian has some acls to tweak... [10:53] heh, yeah grsecurity sucks with slackware [10:53] Dominian, stop breaking things [10:53] me_ (n=me_@89.242.86.135) joined ##slackware. [10:53] slackytude: grsecurity is fine with slackware [10:53] its getting the acls tweaked that's the bitch [10:53] Dominian, not if you insist on breaking stuff [10:53] Dominian, last time I tried it I had to recompile half the libs [10:53] that was back with slack 10 or so [10:55] thrice`_ (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [10:55] damn [10:55] its summertime [10:55] Zordrak: good race . :) [10:56] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE5A7F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:56] slackytude: the only thing I had to do was update binutils to 2.18 [10:56] Dominian, got a lot better than [10:56] s/than/then [10:57] and I've got basic security in place already [10:57] just want acls going [10:57] but need tor ead a bit more on how to do so.. lot of stuff in grsec [10:57] Dominian, could you confirm what was exploted? [10:57] slackytude: wordpress [10:57] yeah, grsec is kinda huge [10:57] which I've corrected [10:57] thrice` (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:57] Nick change: thrice`_ -> thrice` [10:57] Dominian, default wordpress? [10:57] and apparently the exploit is reported [10:57] slackytude: hell no [10:57] some addon then [10:58] I installed a wordpress "firewall" plugin that looks for the specifics these guys were using.. so it stopped them for now [10:58] heh [10:58] but with grsec... once I get the ACLs tweaked [10:58] hehe they could do whatever they want.. won't matter [10:58] SDFSDGF (n=LINUX@187-5-44-114.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:59] well, all is fine. and my quote is up too ^-^ [10:59] heh [10:59] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1475 [10:59] ok .. back later guys [10:59] more reading to do [10:59] see ya reverend [11:00] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:04] reverend, huh? I forgot about that :) [11:04] Lectus (n=chatzill@20150020190.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:05] how do i set a password for a screen session? man doesn't say anything [11:05] so does quick-googling [11:05] passwd nameofuser [11:06] http://nixcraft.com/getting-started-tutorials/464-linux-setting-screen-lock-password-protection.html [11:07] that may be for xscreensaver [11:07] john_dee: are you talking about screen the terminal session? [11:07] i mean "screen", not screensaver or login password [11:07] alisonken1home, yes [11:08] By default a user can't attach to someone else's screen anyway. [11:08] i have to put encrypted pass to .screenrc, but no info on how to encrypt it [11:08] ccfreak2k, i know that :) [11:08] so why u want a passwd ? [11:09] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] me__ (n=me_@92.26.171.164) joined ##slackware. [11:10] DeeeeP, would it sound too crazy of i say that i don't want richard nixon to reattach to me session if he bruteforces my acc.. %P [11:10] that's a bit of extra paranoia [11:10] i'm not asking if i should set one, i'm asking how because i don't seem to find any info on that [11:11] man screen wont help ? [11:11] DeeeeP, i know. can't be helped :) [11:11] DeeeeP, nothing there [11:11] based on the 'addacl' command option, it looks like the crypted password would be similar to the crypt used in /etc/passwd [11:12] Nuken (n=Nuken@r48-pe-tubarao.ibys.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:13] richard nixon? [11:13] watergate [11:13] yeah,but whywouldattach to john_dee screen session [11:14] concept, not specific person [11:15] (my guess) [11:15] yeah [11:15] well, there are lots of references to "encrypted password", but no info on how to create one..dangleberry %\ [11:15] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:15] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [11:15] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-157-128.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:16] Ctrl A x [11:16] slackytude, what matters is doing it. not whys, but hows [11:16] for a description, "man 3 crypt" will describe the password encryption call. [11:17] rworkman, oh, silly me :D that's just it. thanks [11:17] for a dummy check, you can change your login password, run the addacl option with the 2nd field of /etc/shadow, then redo your password again [11:18] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-212-94.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [11:18] how is called a person who thinks he's under persuit all the time ? persuit maniac ? [11:19] paranoid [11:19] ye [11:19] s [11:19] also [11:19] but specific name [11:19] and also, "correct" [11:19] heh [11:20] specific name? [11:20] optimistic ? :p [11:20] i did a direct translation of what i call im my language [11:20] (fortune inside ;) ) [11:20] persecution maniac ? [11:20] im asking , i dont know :p [11:20] persecution is rather political i think [11:21] I dont know a more specific term than paranoid [11:21] I have to say I don't know [11:21] and /me offf : LAN ! \o/ [11:21] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [11:21] Camarade_Tux, hello and goodbye ^-^ [11:21] damn [11:21] slackytude, there are some types of paranoids , some on each name [11:21] DeeeeP, true [11:21] slackytude: you're a native english speaker? [11:21] lizardius, nope [11:21] me neither [11:22] DeeeeP, you're literal translation is close to the german word, "verfolgungswahn" [11:22] not that it helps [11:22] but i agree that paranoid in it's general meaning (psychiatric insiders left aside) is the right term [11:22] lol , that i really dont understand :) [11:22] paranoid schizophrenic [11:22] DeeeeP, it means persuit maniac ^-^ [11:23] great, my translation were right then [11:23] ok :) [11:23] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:25] me_ (n=me_@89.242.86.135) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] what is a good linux distribution for a low ram machine? [11:30] how much ram [11:30] 40mb [11:30] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [11:30] lol :) [11:31] pi31415: what do you want to do with that box? [11:31] read ebooks in a web browser, tinker with tcl scripts [11:32] that's goona be hard [11:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:32] so, x.org is a must have? [11:32] which browser? (pls don't say firefox...) [11:33] i've got slack 11 and dillo on there now, so I guess this is academic [11:33] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:33] dillo should be sufficient (is it still developed?) [11:34] but I have other old machines and don't want to keep multiple versions of the same software [11:34] i remember running netscape in linux on a 486dx w/ 8mb ram [11:35] older slack versions [11:35] funny that I can't even run a linux installer with six times that [11:35] with 2.4 kernel [11:36] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.6.26) joined ##slackware. [11:36] have fun with your constantly swapping memory :D [11:36] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) joined ##slackware. [11:36] it's doable, although 40 mb is a little on the low side. I don't think firefox will work all that well, although I did an install for a relative on a Pentium II with 64 mb some years ago [11:38] rworkman, heh, not exactly it. it sets up a pass and locks the session w/o detaching. i was wondering how to make it ask for pass on reattach [11:38] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.12.93) joined ##slackware. [11:38] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-212-94.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:38] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:38] \awa [11:38] \away [11:39] FAIL [11:39] i'm sorry [11:39] :) [11:39] psychicist: firefox3 is quite ok with ram usage for static webpages, but ajax applications really mess it up (e.g. gmail) [11:39] you won't have fun with firefox on a 40mb ram machine.... [11:40] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] testing, am i in ##slackware? [11:41] no [11:41] darn! [11:41] can you hear me now? [11:41] nope [11:42] my intertubes got clogged and was disconnected [11:43] must buy fishing license soon [11:44] Action: lizardius steals whitespaces from Pig_Pen ... [11:45] lizardius: I know, I'm testing the limits of what's possible to run within the limitations of a netbook with a 360 mhz processor and 128 mb of memory. firefox 2 works but it isn't great even with such an amount of ram [11:45] psychicist, tried opera? [11:46] firefox 2 has too many memory leaks, iirc [11:46] i have a toshiba notebook from 2001 here, 128 mb ram, 900 mhz [11:46] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/need-a-distro-for-32mb-ram-587006/ [11:46] they say slack 11, debian, or dsl [11:46] running freebsd 7.0. opera runs quite well (in comparison to firefox 3 or worse: firefox 2) [11:47] firefox 2 is now obsolete, i would not trust it anymore, i prefer firefox 2 better than 3 though [11:47] slackytude: I can't, it's mips based so I'll have to find a solution for that. thanks for the suggestion, though [11:48] firefox 3 has some annoyances in the bookmarks & URL bar [11:48] psychicist, oi! [11:48] it's not about annoyances in user-interface design, it's about saving ram in every little corner of your environment, Pig_Pen [11:48] dillo is still being developed [11:48] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] ok, haven't tried dillo for a looong time now [11:49] psychicist, your best bet is dillo, then [11:49] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/coffee-lounge/111432-favorite-distro-older-weaker-hardware-2008-a.html [11:49] slackytude: I'll have a look at that, it's more of an embedded platform anyway [11:49] there is DeliLinux made specifically for old and ancient hardware [11:50] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:51] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-204-25.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [11:52] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:54] nice [11:54] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:03] me__ (n=me_@92.26.171.164) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:03] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-220-54.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:05] DeliLinux: If you have less than 48 MB RAM you have to activate swap before installing, otherwise the installer crashes. [12:06] heh [12:07] Action: slackytude joins #windows [12:09] DEVIL ACT ! [12:09] :> [12:09] nay! [12:09] I am but man [12:09] and besides, its fun [12:10] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1463 [12:10] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-204-25.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:11] Pig_Pen: Interesting! [12:11] whats interesting? [12:11] v4nelle (n=van@adsl69-199.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "http://v4nelle.wordpress.com" [12:11] DeliLinux [12:12] v4nelle (n=van@adsl69-199.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:12] yea, i thought it to be a good project to breath new life in to old hardware, helps to keep them out of the landfulls & dumps [12:13] dsl looks more active [12:13] i like the look of their wiki [12:13] even Slackware-11 would be good on older hardware since it uses a 2.4 kernel [12:14] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [12:14] it wouldn't be such a big problem if most of the materials the hardware consists of could be reused, but unfortunately most resources are used during the manufacturing process [12:15] it is possible to get a 2.6 kernel close to 1 mb, I've done it but it requires a lot of effort [12:16] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] i think that happens a more than we would like to know, i wonder what china does with all the used/recycled electronics that gets shipped there, i bet some of it ends up in new products [12:16] building big battle mechas [12:17] 1524 bzImage [12:17] one & a half megs [12:18] i could probably get it down to one meg but it would take some effort and loss of features [12:19] I'd hope so, I'd rather have my old processors be reused for a more useful purpose than spreading heat without the performance to back it up. that's why low-power processors like atom and non-x86 processors are so important, you don't always need maximum performance, often one with the lowest power consumption is good enough [12:19] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-220-54.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:19] slackytude: LOL @ noobfarm quote. [12:19] agentc0re, ^-^ [12:20] what i hate to see is me buying some electronics item that dies in a year because some chinese company wanted to save money by buying used crap from some scrap yard [12:20] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Pig_Pen: I thought that's how it was all build. Just some scrap is newer than others. [12:22] i try to buy japanese made electronics whenever possible, i think the quality is better than chineses [12:22] I agree, your devices breaking down in a year is definitely what you don't want [12:24] bono (i=bono@118-160-166-44.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:24] marctw (n=marctw@94.187.92.95) left ##slackware. [12:25] Action: john_dee finally beat screen [12:25] but the chinese will build to whatever spec the client company requires, whether's it's high-end or low-end [12:26] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-206-94.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. 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[12:40] Lectus_ (n=chatzill@189.104.48.71) left irc: Client Quit [12:40] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:41] SDFSDGF (n=LINUX@187-5-44-114.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "just for today" [12:42] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-156-41-112.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] j0z (n=JESUS@187-5-44-114.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:43] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.193.179) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:44] Nuken (n=Nuken@r48-pe-tubarao.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:44] hi [12:44] sberla54_ (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] somebody can explain me how a use slackpkg? [12:45] Nuken, man slackpkg [12:45] yes, I already read it [12:45] so, what is the problem? [12:46] but always I try install some package it dont found it [12:46] what command did you use and what was the result? [12:47] example: slackpkg install wine [12:47] sberla54_ (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:47] no packeges found for wine [12:47] sberla54_ (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] almost every thing that i try to install it dont found [12:49] try another mirror [12:49] Nuken: wine is not an official slackware package [12:49] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:49] bono (i=bono@118-160-168-175.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] slackpkg only handles slackware packages [12:50] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-158-70.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:50] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7D02.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Nuken, you want slackbuilds.org and sbopkg from sbopkg.com [12:51] sorry, sbopkg.org [12:52] hum ok.. [12:52] tell me a package that i can test [12:52] taub (n=taub@ip-80-226-17-132.vodafone-net.de) joined ##slackware. [12:52] hello, my system freezes up every now and then, every couple of days [12:53] mostly when i run a lot of stuff, like games [12:53] and ? [12:53] and, what could be the problem, i cant do aynthing, alt+ctrl+backspace wont do anything, and i cant switch to another console [12:53] hah [12:53] so, you're not going to describe anything further than "my system breaks on occassion?" [12:53] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.24.110) joined ##slackware. [12:54] just xorg lock ups? can you ssh in after it happens? checked your xorg log ? [12:54] will try that next time [12:54] checkign my ram right now [12:54] because i have a bad one in there.. [12:54] i think [12:55] bad ram will cause your system to behave oddly [12:55] Nuken, wine [12:55] Lectus (n=chatzill@20150020190.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:55] Nuken, heh [12:56] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] slackytude, ? [12:57] Nuken, test package for slackpkg? [12:57] yes [12:57] Nuken, do a upgrade-all [12:57] slackpkg update? [12:58] Nuken, that will fetch the list of avaible packages [12:58] Nuken, I meant upgrade-all [12:58] sorry slackytude, but i dont understand [12:58] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [12:58] how I can do it? [12:59] Nuken, slackpkg upgarde-all [12:59] ehh [12:59] slackpkg upgrade-all [12:59] humm ok, i going to try [13:00] it will give you a list of packages that are out of date [13:00] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] so you can get never versions [13:01] sigh [13:01] *newer* [13:01] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.28.74) joined ##slackware. [13:02] sberla54 (n=sberla54@93-42-90-81.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:03] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] it's upgrading,, thanks slackytude [13:04] no sweat [13:06] sberla54_ (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:07] sberla54_ (n=sberla54@93-42-38-180.ip85.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. 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[13:24] anyone on 2.6.29 ? [13:24] why? [13:25] just looking for a first hand exp, how does it feel? worth the pain of trying? aso.. [13:26] ..stable enough? [13:26] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-129-16.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [13:27] why do people ask the question of stable enough since stable to you might mean stable to me [13:30] koolniczka: you've got mail [13:31] yep [13:31] hmmm I think I need to reinstall my solaris packages I don't liek firefox 3.1 very much right now [13:32] 3.1 is out? [13:33] it's beta [13:33] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host185-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "byez" [13:33] ah, right. [13:33] I was looking for the release [13:35] kitche, in opensolaris? i installed opera, the firefox beta crashes too often [13:43] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] wow, the last thing i remember before my internet died was bashing the sorry state of Chinese electronics and then my ISP died for an hour [13:44] heh [13:44] instant karma [13:45] i guess the chinese dont like critizem, to hell with the chinese if they dont like critizem then they better behave better towards the customers of their products [13:46] what do you think would happen to me if i manufactured inferior products and flooded the market with them? [13:47] you'd be very rich , indeed [13:47] rich and hated by many [13:47] well, maybe, but who cares if you are rich [13:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:48] i would rather just made a more modest amount of money and produce a great quality product so people would appreciate what i did [13:48] damn hippie [13:48] Pig_Pen: the chinese disagree with you :P [13:49] apparently so, they just executed a chinese business man for putting a toxic substance in to baby fourmula, that says something about the morals of chinese industry [13:50] well, they would probably get a bonus in the west [13:50] slackytude: hahaha [13:51] not here, they would have to lock him in jail to keep mobs of angry parents from ripping him to pieces [13:52] Nuken (n=Nuken@r48-pe-tubarao.ibys.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:52] Greyhound|NB (n=Greyhoun@79.114.9.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.22) left irc: "Leaving" [13:53] Pig_Pen: actually i was quite upset as well - my child ate a milk product infected with that shit for three months when we lived in vietnam [13:53] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.22) joined ##slackware. [13:53] how is your child doing now? [13:53] that sucks [13:54] razel (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] Pig_Pen: very well, thanks. i'm just happy we kept in touch with people in the west who let us know as soon as they saw it on the news. we read afterwards about the babies that were pissing and shitting blood. [13:56] thats not funny [13:56] rworkman: you've got mail too :) [13:57] all those poor innocent children, china better start showing more concern for the quality of their products or people will quit buying from them [13:57] rworkman: for what it's worth I have no problem in general with anyone taking over anything with my name on it on SB. [13:57] Nick change: dartmouth-asleep -> dartmouth [13:57] koolniczka: thanks; much appreciated :) [13:57] antler: where abouts in vietnam? i have an uncle at the st dept in hanoi...been thinking of visiting sometime but thats a dream at this point [13:57] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.22) left irc: Client Quit [13:57] Pig_Pen, there are alternatives? [13:57] freack (i=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [13:57] yes [13:58] with due respect, I'd rather not feed formula to a baby in the first place [13:58] plus that top gear episode...really makes me want to visit [13:58] slackytude: it's even less so when one thinks about the fact that those products were widespread in the rural areas populated with uneducated people and sellers who didn't care enough to pull the products because that would mean a loss in profit [13:59] acidkill: hanoi, we lived close to the old quarter [13:59] acidkill: definitely worth visiting, imo. [13:59] stirfry snakes [13:59] antler: kind of like how the US continues to have illnesses caused by peanuts months after the problem was discovered? [13:59] antler, that sucks but it doesnt suprise me [14:00] pi31415: it was frustrating because inspectors could be easily bought (there) [14:01] actually, most officials can be bought there :( [14:01] (most that i dealt with anyway) [14:01] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:01] that peanut processing plant that was found to have bird's nests and rodents above the ceiling tile [14:02] thats not neccesarily a bad thing [14:02] officials who cant be bought can be worse [14:02] Greetings Programs [14:02] slackytude: i would generally agree with you [14:03] they should investigate the inspectors that were supposed to keep an eye on that peanut processing plant and if he was paid off to ignore health hazards he should go to prison for a long time [14:04] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:05] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:06] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host185-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:06] Anyone here been involved in starting a commercialize/monetized website? [14:09] nope, but as soon as i get an hd cam and some girls...err...nm [14:09] i wrote a small tool that checks your installed packages for inconsistencies (missing files), hoping it will be useful to somebody else. It works on slackware and variants (slamd64, ...). The script is here: http://pastebin.ca/1375957 [14:10] acidchild, heh [14:10] Pig_Pen: such business practices, e.g., putting poison in food, filling propane tanks with crap (other than propane to make weight), were everyday occurences and part of life there. [14:10] acidchild, dont steal my idea, dude [14:10] acidkill: heh [14:10] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.242.156) joined ##slackware. [14:10] jiffypop (n=ace@166.204.221.57) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [14:12] CtrlAltCa: good work, but shouldn't that be part of the build framework in the first place? [14:13] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [14:14] probabyl you misunderstood the intent of this script; it checks if the files that your packages have installed are still ok [14:14] Pig_Pen: what's particularly disturbing about the propane thing is that those tanks have a tendency to explode while mothers cook while holding their babies. the penalty for that is equivalent to $1000 USD, even if a mother and her baby dies. anyway, enough. this is some depressing shit. [14:14] i wrote it for the recovery of a bad "rm -rf ..." story [14:14] I see, it's about guaranteeing consistency of your current running system [14:16] it makes me think about a framework for self-healing in case files get corrupt or go missing [14:17] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] www.rm-r.net [14:17] yeah, the next step in this script will be checking the md5 sum of files [14:18] and.. integrating with slackpkg to heal (reinstall) packages [14:19] I hope you succeed doing so, I think it's an interesting take on system stability and consistency [14:19] if torrents are a crime, only criminals will have torrents [14:19] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:19] eh [14:19] wrong channel [14:20] lol [14:20] quite philosophical today, slackytude :P [14:20] heh, not more so than any other day [14:20] lol [14:20] there is a discussion abou torrents in #windows [14:20] ooo [14:21] and I like to thorw in the occasional remark [14:21] agentc0re: hey did it build for you? :P [14:21] i use torrents but only Linux ISO torrents [14:21] antler: I'm actually working on figuring out why it's doing that right now :) [14:23] http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/1097552266.html [14:23] giuppy (n=giuppy@82.55.165.67) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:25] slackytude: is this winix guy a douche? [14:25] MakubeX (n=admin@ia.puu.la) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] agentc0re, I had a good talk with him already. Im guessing he is just trolling for fun now [14:26] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [14:26] ouch! is a Logitech G25 racing wheel worth $280? [14:26] Pig_Pen, eh, $4500 for that? [14:26] he must be looking for a rich fool [14:27] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [14:27] kippersalad (n=citizen4@C-59-100-83-93.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [14:28] that picture must be at least 6 months or older, right now the trees are just starting to awaken from winter and the grass is not that green yet, [14:30] MakubeX (i=horas@ia.puu.la) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Actually considering it looks liek original wheels, and it it has an original motor and transmikssion that's not a bad price to get a vintage shell for restoration [14:32] though I suspest that's his starting price and he'd likely take $3500 [14:32] if you can even find replacement parts for it, new paint and upholstery is not the problem, what about engine & transmission parts? probably have to be custom made [14:33] lots of times newer aprts fit but often yes, you go to shops that specialize in vinatge aprts or have them machiend. The old flat ehad 6 was a pretty decent and fairly simple engine [14:33] eh [14:33] not like todays where you need a degree in nuclear physics to do a tune up [14:34] alrite, I may have been not thinking [14:34] NyteOwl: you got a mr fusion too? [14:34] Im guessing somebody who like that sort of thing will pay huge money for it [14:34] Action: NyteOwl wants his old BOSS 302 w edelbrock headers, 4barrel carb, semi flow thru's abck [14:34] *sigh* [14:34] damn i knew it was a bad option at the dealer [14:35] lol [14:35] mr fusion? [14:35] inetic (n=inetic@chello082119124030.chello.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] Action: acidkill gets in the delorean and hits 88 [14:36] Action: NyteOwl wants a Bricklin [14:36] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) joined ##slackware. [14:36] NyteOwl, the power plant of the delorean in that 80's movies, back from the future [14:36] or however it was called [14:36] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] slackytude: ah, ok [14:36] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:38] heh deloreans butt ugly piece of engineering [14:39] i'd rather drive a ford pinto :P [14:39] taub (n=taub@ip-80-226-17-132.vodafone-net.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:39] flux capacitor FTW [14:39] :) [14:39] I want a Mr Fusion [14:39] giuppy (n=giuppy@host67-165-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:40] that would rock my socks off [14:40] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) left irc: Client Quit [14:40] you mean that thing that took banana peels as fuel? [14:41] yeah [14:41] I'd sooner spend $4500 on this: http://www.bricklin.org/forum/classdetail.asp?id=113 [14:41] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [14:41] antler: Well getting close to the VLC build part of the script. I'm crossing my fingers. [14:42] NyteOwl: that would be much easier to restore to new condition [14:42] and go lots faster! [14:42] NyteOwl: Are the flat tires free? I hope so :P [14:42] Pig_Pen: yes, especially since the Bricklin was built on a Mustang base [14:43] parts are much easier to get [14:43] MakubeX (i=horas@ia.puu.la) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:44] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-156-41-112.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:44] that even looks fast standing still [14:44] :) [14:44] but the other was a 1929 thingy. not the same league [14:44] They're nice cars [14:45] heh, I like the email [14:45] flanders [14:45] those sort of have a TransAm look to them [14:45] Shame they went out of business [14:45] agentc0re: sorta like doing mental exercises to prolong the anticipation of a climax that doesn't come because the exercises were too effective? [14:46] antler: Got passed that error yesterday, but got a new one now. [14:46] antler: http://pastebin.learnix.net/24 [14:46] antler, eh? [14:47] agentc0re: that seems related, if not the same one [14:47] too distracted to climax, I have to solve this equation first [14:47] slackytude: lol [14:48] antler: Different, but similar. http://pastebin.learnix.net/23 [14:48] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.242.156) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [14:48] antler, that sounds like something you'd see on xkcd [14:49] agentc0re: right, libvlcplugin was the first one [14:49] slackytude: xkcd? [14:49] antler, http://xkcd.com/ [14:50] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] MakubeX (i=horas@ia.puu.la) joined ##slackware. [14:50] slackytude: oh hahah [14:55] antler: Okay, here goes another hour :P [14:55] agentc0re: did you install the vlc mozilla plugin first? [14:55] oh wait, nm [14:55] antler: No, that's part of the build afaik [14:56] olicz (n=paigerov@r5bu30.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [14:56] agentc0re: then why does the alien have a seperate package for that? [14:57] agentc0re: ok, i'm going to boot into slamd64 and try this again. brb [14:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:58] ivis (i=123@77.38.170.39) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Hello how to i mount windows partitions on slackware 12.1 ? [14:58] man mozilla ftp is slow right now .... [14:59] jiffypop (n=ace@166.204.221.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:00] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [15:01] How to i install software on slackware , like firefox etc... only way is compiling source ? [15:02] ivis: Firefox comes with slackware. [15:03] for patches I would look inside the patches/ directory on a mirror [15:03] agentc0re, yea and old version but i don't talka bout firefox i ask how to i install soft on slackware? Is there only compiling source [15:03] ivis: http://slackbook.org/html/book.html#PACKAGE-MANAGEMENT [15:04] thx [15:07] ivis (i=123@77.38.170.39) left irc: "Leaving" [15:09] harjar (n=oddharja@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: "Leaving" [15:11] jiffypop (n=ace@32.179.78.104) joined ##slackware. [15:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] lioil (n=paigerov@r5bu30.net.upc.cz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:12] agentc0re: you have qt4 installed, yeah? [15:12] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:12] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-129-16.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [15:13] I think it's stable enough [15:13] There are some awesome performance improvements.. [15:13] jiffypop (n=ace@32.179.78.104) left irc: Client Quit [15:13] jiffypop (n=ace@32.179.78.104) joined ##slackware. [15:13] It's like with ext4, when it was announced stable in 2.6.28, a lot of people started using it, but there are still bugs in it some of which have been fixed in 2.6.29 [15:14] dammit, man [15:14] alkos333, those bugs werent in ext4. more in applications that expected their FS to work like ext3 [15:15] No, I'm not talking about the incident that Ubuntu idiots filed as a bug :P [15:15] alrite [15:15] slackytude: There are other smaller bugs in it. [15:15] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-13-30-240.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] slackytude: Yes, KDE and GNOME just have to make use of sqlite instead of writing hundreds of small files.. [15:16] alkos333, they have to call fsync() [15:16] Well, that would be very expensive if they called fsync every time they wrote a tiny file. [15:16] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [15:16] That's what sqlite if for. [15:16] *is [15:16] Randuni (n=Randune@CPE002129686737-CM001bd7a862f2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:17] hi all [15:17] how is everyone? [15:17] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [15:17] Sonata 1.6 is out ... nice! [15:17] doesn't the sqlite file has to be fsync()-ed either, alkos333 ? [15:17] I'm looking for the ether-wake program, and I notice that slackware 12.2 does not have it in it's package repositories [15:17] hi Randuni [15:17] sup lizardius? [15:18] can someone point me in the direction of ether-wake? [15:18] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.144.205) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:19] lizardius: It depends on how you allocate your memory. [15:19] Sonata? sleeping pill? [15:19] And yes, eventually it does, but when you have a database, it's a lot easier to work with, as supposed to dozens of little files. [15:20] Randuni: i just found an installation manual in german... [15:20] lizardius: So yes, you have to run fsync eventually, but you won't have to run nearly as many which improves performance [15:20] Pig_Pen: No, the MPD music client [15:20] Pig_Pen: http://sonata.berlios.de/download.html [15:21] actually it's sqlite that has to fsync, doesn't it? [15:21] berlios.de is always super slow here [15:21] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] haha [15:21] me no sprechen sie deutsch? [15:21] :) [15:22] thats for the link, looks like a nice little gtk based player [15:22] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] lizardius: I'm not sure [15:22] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.140.250) joined ##slackware. [15:22] thanks* (for the link) [15:22] whatever happened to xfm? [15:22] lol [15:22] lizardius: That would make sense, however. [15:23] alkos333: and do you know how many calls to fsync sqlite does? [15:23] a lot of xfce's accesories seem to be super slow to get worked on [15:24] probably it does after every INSERT, UPDATE or ALTER query ...then it's not faster than manually fsync()-ing in theory [15:25] Randuni: there's the link http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/WAKE_ON_LAN#Linux [15:26] shouldn't be too difficult to c'n'p the lines even without knowing german :P [15:26] k..thx [15:26] je parle le francais un peu, mais..je ne parle pas la allemagne [15:27] -> query [15:28] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-249-247.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-249-247.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:29] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-249-247.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:30] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [15:30] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:30] Nick change: r0b_ -> r0b [15:31] i only speak a bastardized version of english, (american english) :D [15:32] haha :D [15:33] omg, anybody help me with tcpdump expression ? I tried to write the expression many many times, but tcpdump don't follow [15:33] tcpdump -n -i br0 host 10.1.1.1 && host 10.1.1.252 src port 22 [15:33] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-2-113-213.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] <-- german and french :P [15:33] host: couldn't get address for 'src port 22': not found [15:33] (and english of course...badly) [15:34] i should learn to speak mexican style spanish which is somewhat different than the proper spanish spoken in Spain [15:36] well even catalonian spanish differs from "proper" spanish, i guess ... [15:38] do nouns in spanish have gender? [15:38] yes [15:38] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-135-86.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:38] si senora [15:38] that, to me, makes a language more difficult to learn [15:38] like in every romanian language? [15:40] it's just a matter of discipline, antler :) [15:40] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:40] at least spanish has just male/female like french and not an additional neutral gender... [15:41] that was what confused me when trying to learn french [15:41] yeah, those germans.... :P [15:41] oh hi slackytude :D [15:41] ^-^ [15:41] obviously you need three genders [15:42] What ntp server would you guys recommend? [15:42] slackytude: as I said, it's just a matter of discipline. when you have to learn it to pass an exam, you'll learn it ... :] [15:42] lizardius, I learned latin instead [15:42] i learned latin, too .... [15:42] slackytude: are you latin literate? [15:43] antler, define literate [15:43] read and write? [15:43] alkos333: i use us.pool.ntp.org [15:43] read, yes. write, eh, not really. I forgot the proper way of doing that ages ago [15:44] hing (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [15:44] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:45] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [15:45] twolf: Thanks! [15:45] anyway, latin was just me way of escaping french. I liked it but its not really useful. should have done french instead [15:45] i need to do french. it's one of our official languages after all [15:45] that are some strong words ... you should give speeches at schools :D [15:46] Action: lizardius passed his exam (abitur) in french ... [15:46] that was *cruel* [15:46] heh, no, you dont want me giving speeches to kids [15:46] drop out and enjoy life! [15:46] we dont need no education [15:46] haha x) [15:47] yeah, listen to pink floyd :D [15:47] lizardius, french in abitur? not bad ^-^ [15:48] yes ... it was a cruel test with a cruel teacher, but being one of two guys in a class with 12 girls is kinda cool :D [15:48] and then I was thinking that latin was more useful than french, if only because it would make learning each of the romance languages far easier than without that knowledge [15:48] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:49] do you guys find it easier to speak a new language if you study how it is written as well? [15:50] psychicist, there is that, yes. but Im not really a language guy [15:50] psychicist: it is...after knowing one of those languages. reading spanish is quite easy for me because of having learned french first and then latin [15:51] lizardius: I've had 4 years of french and 3 years of latin, I learnt spanish and italian on my own because of the years of having studied latin vocabulary [15:51] antler: oh well, I do. but probably that differs from person to person [15:51] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:51] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] psychicist: i totally agree. did you first learn latin or french? well i don't like the sound of italian (no offense, guys, just personal preference), but spanish is cool :] [15:52] lizardius: and I definitely agree about the girls, when I was in the exam class for greek I was the only guy among the four of us ;) [15:53] psychicist: how many languages do you speak fluently? [15:53] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [15:53] and it was the same in latin with the girls (as the only boy), psychicist [15:53] school life rocked :] [15:53] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] lizardius: I learnt french first, for a year and then 3 years of learning both [15:54] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-147-14.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:55] antler: I've lost count of the number but let's see: dutch, english, german, french, spanish, italian, modern greek, hindi and reading and understanding knowledge of classical greek and latin [15:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:55] damn [15:55] psychicist, what do you for work? [15:55] that's 8 living languages and 2 dead ones [15:56] slackytude: I'm studying physics, it's completely unrelated to my knowledge of languages [15:56] ah, ok [15:56] but even I high school I always enjoyed as much the alpha as the beta subjects [15:56] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: "Leaving." [15:56] just wondering [15:56] psychicist: wow. i feel what william wallace's girlfriend must've felt when he spoke latin and french to her on a cliff overlooking the ravines. [15:57] he could say "You're a dirty whore and I hate you" and she would've enjoyed it [15:57] lol [15:57] xD [15:57] yeah, i was gonna add, and i don't mean horny [15:58] freack (i=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [15:59] antler: it's part of being a world citizen, I enjoy multiple cultures and addressing people in their own languages as much as possible. I still want to learn a few more, but I don't have time for that now, maybe in a few years [16:00] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@C-59-100-83-93.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: "Think your current client is sexy? Check out Bersirc 2.2! [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]" [16:00] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] boojit (n=boojit@216.160.8.126) got netsplit. [16:03] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) got netsplit. [16:03] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) got netsplit. [16:03] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) got netsplit. [16:03] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) got netsplit. [16:03] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [16:03] psychicist: what field of work are you in? [16:03] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) returned to ##slackware. [16:03] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) returned to ##slackware. [16:03] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) returned to ##slackware. [16:03] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) returned to ##slackware. [16:04] ananke, slackytude: I'm studying physics, it's completely unrelated to my knowledge of languages [16:04] O_o [16:04] damn [16:04] antler: I'm studying phyics, I want to go into nanotechnology and semiconductors [16:04] Action: slackytude hides [16:04] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.147.241) joined ##slackware. [16:04] hi [16:04] psychicist: oh, ok. i missed that [16:04] slackytude: :D [16:05] and I'm not some kind of underground CIA agent as briantumor suggested at one time :) [16:05] psychicist, yes, but if you were one, you'd say the same [16:06] nice, ubuntu has sound in virtualbox with solaris as a host [16:06] slackytude: sure, there is no way I can assure you of that so I won't even try to [16:06] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:06] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [16:07] psychicist: i can see your skill set being very useful professionally [16:09] antler: thanks, I hope it will help me during my career [16:11] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.52.147.209) joined ##slackware. [16:12] redb (n=mazinga@host139-157-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:13] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [16:17] bye [16:17] lizardius (n=florian@p4FDA5FF0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "tired of civilisation..." [16:19] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:19] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:19] a psychic physicist? :) [16:20] that was the idea, at first I thought of just using physicist, but then I thought that sounded to ordinary so I devised the nick I'm using now ;) [16:20] too* [16:20] :) [16:21] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.158.19.170) joined ##slackware. [16:22] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] does slackpkg track current by default? [16:27] no [16:27] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-135-86.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] good [16:27] ... [16:27] from the man page: Before you do anything, you will need to uncomment one mirror in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors file and run: # slackpkg update [16:28] next query... I did a fresh install of 12.2 off the CDs.. but slackpkg wants to update screenfuls of packages [16:28] are there that many out of date? [16:28] did you read the slackpkg man page? [16:28] yes [16:28] did you even configure slackpkg yet? [16:28] psychicist, you think installing ubuntu in a virtualbox just to have skype it too much of an overkill? :P [16:28] configure? [16:29] aside from the "uncomment one line"? [16:29] so then you know that it only pulls from where you tell it to [16:29] nachox: that's definitely overkill, solaris has branded zones for that :P [16:29] if you are updating 12.2 you will see it want to update using these packages http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [16:30] antler: Okay, build is working paste the last point it failed. I'll let you know more once it either fails else where or completes :D [16:30] s/paste/past [16:31] chopp: no dice with the AR54XX [16:31] chopp: hostapd refuses to play with it [16:31] agentc0re: fail still at first error here. heh [16:31] antler: http://pastebin.learnix.net/25 [16:31] or wait... does upgrade-all display EVERY package on my system and expect me to choose? or is something not working as it should? [16:32] mmlj4: no [16:32] *grumble* [16:32] because I'm seeing targets that don't exist on the page you sent me to [16:32] upgrade-all updates all packages that slackpkg finds to have a new package for [16:32] anyone in here ex-military? [16:32] agentc0re: just now? [16:32] nachox: I just found out branded zones don't support ALSA audio, so that's a good alternative [16:32] dartmouth: USMC here. [16:32] or current military? [16:32] mind if i pm you? [16:32] dartmouth: sure. [16:33] psychicist, nod, i just deleted half of ubuntu in the virtualbox [16:33] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:33] agentc0re: you wouldn't be in the market for USMC licence palte frames? :) [16:33] mmlj4: what line did you uncomment for your mirror? [16:33] a2ps-4.14-i486-2.tgz, aaa_terminfo-5.7-noarch-1.tgz, alsa-lib-1.0.18-i486-1.tgz , none of which are listed [16:34] the georgia tech line [16:34] what line [16:34] for what version? [16:34] hrm... [16:35] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.199.163) joined ##slackware. [16:36] I didn't realize multiple versions existed in that file... i bet I chose 12.1 or something by mistake [16:36] use line 233 [16:36] nano +233 /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [16:36] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@212.200.204.188) joined ##slackware. [16:36] gaa, current [16:36] DO NOT WANT [16:36] that's why... [16:37] danke [16:38] nano? bah [16:38] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host185-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "byez" [16:38] please. [16:38] please no [16:38] really man [16:38] learn to read [16:38] don't start some editor flame [16:38] I ain't using nano [16:38] unknow (n=unknow@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Hi I would like to know when was release Slackware 12.2 Thanks in advance [16:39] unknow: www.slackware.com [16:39] mmlj4: that was an example to show you how to get to line 233..since you obviously didn't read carefully enough in the first place...i felt you needed an easy example. [16:39] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@212.200.204.188) left irc: Client Quit [16:39] is this one ? 2008-12-10 [16:39] slackware 12.2 has KDE 4 ? [16:39] unknow: no [16:39] I did read [16:40] i know you did read. you just didn't do it carefully [16:40] all i was giving you was an example [16:40] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:40] I didn't expect the file to have multiple versions... neat the top I saw australia, so I hit shift-G and found a line for USA [16:41] mmhmm [16:41] nyeah, my editor's better than yours :-P [16:41] How can I get the updates to apply since Slackware 12.2 release? [16:41] mmhmmm [16:41] ok, that's a better list, thanks [16:41] mmlj4: you're might be better but at least i can use mine with some accuracy [16:41] I'm proceeding to install slackware 12.2 right on this machine [16:42] heh [16:42] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] touche [16:42] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:42] unknow: have fun:) [16:42] unknow: look in the patches dir on any mirror for 12.2 [16:43] sh0ne (n=Unknown@212.200.204.188) joined ##slackware. [16:43] unknow, or use slackpkg [16:43] unknow, mmlj4 can tell you how [16:43] so... do you use nano yourself, or did you simply direct me to use a fail-safe editor by default? [16:43] slackytude: yeah, I'm an expert now [16:43] Action: slackytude nods [16:43] "see one, do one, teach one" -- John Carter [16:44] thanks for your support [16:45] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:46] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) joined ##slackware. [16:46] mmlj4: i use nano sometimes, i use whatever the system has really [16:46] understoof [16:46] d [16:46] I bailed on pico back in 2002 [16:47] if you need a text editor and all you have is pico you'd just sit there and loose your job? [16:48] that's amazing [16:48] anyone run asterisk on slack? got any feedback for me? [16:48] all you have is pico? unlikely [16:48] pi31415: that's really good that you can tell this would be unlikely..especially since it was hypothetical anyway [16:48] well, I think vi shipped with every *nix I've ever logged into [16:48] mmlj4, asterisk is on SBo [16:48] but yeah [16:49] nullboy: just as practical as invisible pink unicorns [16:49] yeah, but I want actual feedback if possible, slackytude [16:49] unknow (n=unknow@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] if the unicorns are invisible then how do you know they are pink? [16:51] Pig_Pen: one of them told me what color it was [16:51] thats agood enough answer for me [16:51] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-135-86.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:52] glad to help. [16:54] how can I get a list of all installed packages, please? [16:54] pkgtools [16:54] ls /var/log/packages [16:54] k [16:54] or just look in /va what Pig_Pen said [16:54] :: ls /var/log/packages [16:55] Pig_Pen, what is a Pig Pen,btw? [16:55] a place where pigs can wallow in the muck [16:56] also a peanuts character who attracts flies [16:56] yup [16:56] thats what i nicked myself with, (pig pen from the Peanuts cartoon) [16:57] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:57] ah ok [16:57] I remeber Pig Pen ^-^ Peanuts are fun [16:58] MapMan (i=mapman@dynamic-78-8-55-5.ssp.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:58] hey, do you know where I can seek help about forwarding ports? :D [16:58] thats an iptables feature i belive [16:59] fevel (n=fevel@189.32.157.67) joined ##slackware. [16:59] well [16:59] Its not a linux specific question tbh [16:59] ... [16:59] but all the smart people all are on freenode [16:59] so I just came here [16:59] that doesn't work on us [16:59] here's the place I always got help :P [16:59] i dont use port forwarding or i would have been more help to you [17:00] MapMan: what help d'you need? [17:00] MapMan: can you stop being all poetical and start pasting information? [17:01] so [17:01] MapMan, what do you mean not linux specific. The ways to port forward wary wildly between OS's [17:02] gr... my favorite port-forwarding tool (rinetd) ain't in the mains nor on sbo [17:05] detringj (n=jay@70.234.163.217) got netsplit. [17:05] radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) got netsplit. [17:05] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) got netsplit. 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Simple, but yet port forwarding isnt working -_- [17:17] LSD`_ (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:17] MapMan: you expected better advice? why did you ask in ##slackware then? [17:17] DeeeeP: nullboy asked me to explain my prob [17:17] First I asked where I should seek help [17:17] you told me to ask here [17:17] so I asked [17:17] agentc0re no, I just have a pair surplus to my needs ... http://www.baud.ca/usmc-plates.jpg [17:17] right . no we know no one can help [17:17] now * [17:17] no, i said to stop talking like a poet and show us real data [17:17] so I did [17:17] so [17:17] MapMan: You need to forward that port to your machine. [17:18] thanks for trying to help nullboy [17:18] then, we see that your data is not related to slackware or even linux [17:18] DeeeeP, you told he can ask about his router in here? [17:18] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7D02.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [17:18] so that's the current situation [17:18] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [17:18] slackytude, nope , i told nothing [17:18] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-147-14.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.2.1" [17:18] NyteOwl: Holy dog shit, those are super moto! :P [17:18] chopp: dang. i might need that patch. this card is ABG [17:19] nullboy: when do you sleep? >_> [17:19] never [17:19] I like it [17:19] :) [17:19] matsuura: i slept from 2am to 1pm today [17:19] heh, brand new never used. [17:19] sleep? what's sleep? [17:19] hmm [17:19] nullboy: what time is it? [17:19] 14:20 [17:19] nullboy has a constant feed from his pc directly to his brain. [17:20] matsuura: i'm PDT [17:20] nullboy: yeah, where do you live? [17:20] >_> [17:20] california [17:20] NyteOwl: Haha, I've heard that once or twice but about rifles. :P Never used, only dropped once ;) [17:20] nullboy: where in california? [17:20] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) joined ##slackware. [17:20] matsuura: Ventura County [17:20] agentc0re: heh true in this case. [17:20] come and find me! [17:21] we can Rochambeau [17:21] nullboy: address and shit.... [17:21] yeah ok [17:21] please? :o [17:21] tell you what [17:21] i'll bring cookies :) [17:21] i'll give you my address and when you show up, be ready. [17:21] agentc0re: my father bought them but never got to put them on his car [17:21] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] is this a troll? [17:21] nullboy: ready for what? [17:21] >_> [17:21] just be ready. [17:22] the sex? :o [17:22] hacking gibsons? [17:22] :o [17:22] a nice warm meal? [17:22] a nice lead sandwich [17:22] NyteOwl: why not? [17:22] a fatty 1911 .44 with magazines filled with hollow points? D: [17:22] .45* [17:22] of course not. DEAGLE [17:22] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:22] eluan (n=eluan@189.4.79.80) joined ##slackware. [17:23] nullboy: that doesn't sounds very inviting :( [17:23] desert eagle ftw [17:23] i wouldn't give you the luxury of JHPs [17:23] why can't we just be friends? :( [17:23] Kool-Aid (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [17:23] LSD` (n=ianweb@58.7.6.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] because you're freaking me out [17:24] lol [17:24] ;_; [17:24] agentc0re: he passed away before he could put them on. He was going to wait for the following summer. [17:24] NyteOwl: I'm sorry to hear that. [17:24] nullboy: hey, _you're_ freaking _me_ out now... :p [17:24] I'm all scared for my life and stuff [17:24] me too [17:24] meanwhile, baking cookies for you [17:24] :( [17:24] you wanted to feed me bad cookies [17:24] who the hell needs hollow pojnts in a .45? ;) [17:24] lies! [17:25] they are excellent cookies! [17:25] :D [17:25] Action: agentc0re raises his hand [17:25] love was baked into them [17:25] or something [17:25] NyteOwl, if you are hunting lawyers [17:25] oh lord [17:25] Action: matsuura calls on agentc0re [17:25] I have hollow points for my P90. [17:25] :o [17:25] do not want love infused cookies [17:25] they are though to kill [17:25] nullboy: lmao [17:25] I'll take them out, just for you [17:25] >_> [17:25] FMJ in a 45 inside apartments...gg [17:26] put little slackware logos on them [17:26] :o [17:26] smica_ (n=smica@212.16.144.46) left irc: Client Quit [17:26] all you'd hear is BANG *poof*poof*poof*poof* [17:26] slackytude: eww, don't dirty the bullets (as Segal would say). stakes through the heart are ebst for them :) [17:26] agentc0re: Colt 1911A1 here [17:26] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] NyteOwl: dang! [17:26] NyteOwl, heh, classic [17:26] is it a 70? [17:27] anything still standing is being propped up from behind :) [17:27] spirt (n=spirt@pppoe12341.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:27] http://guntalk.dbw.org/images/illustrations/ruger/rugerP345b.jpg [17:27] NyteOwl: next gun i want, http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4804/dpp0002sw0.jpg [17:28] man, you're a dick... How about this, wanna hang out? >_> [17:28] agentc0re, hollow points in a P90 sounds like overkill [17:28] matsuura: who are you? [17:28] how did you get in here? [17:28] matsuura :O [17:28] hmm [17:28] door was open [17:28] Action: matsuura shrugs [17:28] slackytude: Nah, it's just barely enough :P [17:29] heh [17:29] you have a P90? from FN? [17:29] agentc0re: naw -I'd have no use for soemthing like that (even if it was legal here) [17:29] NyteOwl: that's a m468 [17:29] =5 :B> =5 7=05B ?>G5A;5 70:@KB8O kwrite 2 kde3 2K;5705B >H81:0((( [17:29] redb (n=mazinga@host139-157-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving" [17:29] nullboy: nope. I do not [17:29] spirt: what the hell [17:29] o_o [17:30] why not the good old ak47. [17:30] spirt, change your charset [17:30] If I was to buy another handgun it would be a Browning FN [17:30] I don't know you're russian [17:30] nille_: it's too freaking out of control [17:30] yeah [17:30] way... [17:30] my nice high standard is all in control though [17:30] :o [17:30] er Browning HP [17:30] well who needs it when you can hold 300bullets in a mag [17:31] yeah and then the stock catches on fire [17:31] who needs 300 bullets when one does the trick? [17:31] o_o [17:31] nullboy: hahaha [17:31] that's where all the fun is! [17:31] :o [17:31] does the trick if u got the target [17:31] lol [17:31] òàêàÿ êîäèðîâêà ïîéä¸ò? [17:31] spirt: we can't understand what you are typing [17:32] spirt, UTF8 AND ENGLISH [17:32] spirt: english only please [17:32] spirt: no... that is impossible [17:32] i the militairy i had an ak-4 swedish old wepon [17:32] ? [17:32] spirt: I know.. that is what I said [17:33] agentc0re: probably selling an M1 Carbine come summer. Should pay for a few computer toys :) [17:33] NyteOwl: is it Ca legal? [17:34] ok [17:34] http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/ak/ak4_5/ak5_history.htm (the top one) [17:34] NyteOwl: Why not keep it? [17:34] nullboy: it's legal here, though restricted [17:34] spirt: oh, now you fucking speak english [17:34] agentc0re: no use for it. [17:34] I badly know English [17:34] xD [17:34] it shows [17:35] NyteOwl: you're in CA too? [17:35] matsuura: tone down your language/attitude please [17:35] Shut up matsuura. [17:35] alienBOB: attitude=0 [17:35] langauge=english [17:35] well it's better with bad english then òàêàÿ êîäèðîâêà ïîéä¸ò? [17:35] I from is Russia) [17:35] profanity=max [17:35] spirt: that is ok. don't worry [17:35] matsuura: ban is imminent then [17:35] agentc0re: I can't go tromping thorugh the woods hunting anymore, and target shooting with a carbine doesn;t appeal to me so it's going. Aloog with some other long guns [17:35] nullboy: CA= Canada, yes [17:35] alienBOB++ [17:35] alienBOB: im sure [17:35] its what people in freenode are great at :p [17:35] NyteOwl: haha i i mean california for me ;) [17:36] alienBOB, yes! [17:36] what do you mean by tone down though? [17:36] Unfortuantely I can't elt the two mags I have go with the carbine if I sell it here [17:36] welcome spirt [17:36] matsuura: I think he means, stop using the enter key as much. [17:36] they're too high capacity to be used legally without permanent modification [17:37] hi nille_ [17:37] agentc0re: enter has nothing to do with language.. o_o [17:37] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.12.93) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:37] matsuura: in this channel we try to remain friendly when we encounter a language barrier [17:37] oh [17:37] yeah [17:37] I see, I'll keep that in mind next time [17:37] :D [17:37] spirt what was your question before? [17:38] nullboy: no idea if it's legal in California. It's semi-auto, 18" barrell, .30 cal [17:38] alienBOB: unfortunately, nullboy wasn't like that with me last night >:( [17:38] who is from Russia? [17:38] you [17:38] o_o [17:38] ) [17:38] ohh well i guess it wasn't to many :) [17:38] last night what the hell? [17:39] nullboy, dont bring your one night stands along [17:39] lol [17:39] yeah, when I was asking questions and stuff, you were being rude :( [17:39] lol [17:39] chopp: so i've given up on myth. while i do play hockey, i can't compile myth, a condition necessary for being canadian :( [17:39] antler: mythtv ? [17:39] chopp: did you guys get hit with snow a few nights ago? it's bad here. [17:39] phrag: yeah [17:39] whoa, antler where are you? [17:39] matsuura: did i damage your fragile flower? [17:40] matsuura: calgary [17:40] nullboy: my flower? [17:40] O_o [17:40] it's still winter, no flowers yet [17:40] keep it out there :) [17:40] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [17:40] chopp: and given up on the hauppauge more generally [17:40] antler: hmm [17:40] I slept with the windoiw open and the furnace off last night :) [17:40] :O [17:40] antler: We got hit with a nasty storm today. I'm in Utah. [17:41] antler: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=myth&sv=12.2 [17:41] NyteOwl: lucky you! :) [17:41] chopp: that was it [17:41] Spring is here officially - the local bike club were out eysterday for spring coffee run :) [17:41] chopp: but the AR54XX is way unstable [17:41] keeps hardlocking the system [17:41] agentc0re: is that unusual for utah this time of year? [17:42] agentc0re: it's been a long winter here this year. Spring is overdue :) [17:42] can we stop talking about guns? I am scared.. [17:42] i lost a precious hour today =( [17:42] me too [17:42] matsuura: an AR54XX isn't a gun [17:42] what the hell is wrong with you? [17:42] antler: are you using the slackbuilds ? [17:42] so did i [17:42] antler: A little. It was 54 yesterday, blizzard this morning with a few inches on my yard but now it's all melted away. Bizaro land here we are! [17:42] phrag: yah, the problem was with some version of ffmpeg i was running. [17:42] antler: no snow here, we are getting awsome weather actually. 4C right now. [17:43] nullboy: I never said it was a gun [17:43] o_o [17:43] antler: so down/upgrade ? [17:43] AR54XX atheros? [17:43] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:43] yes [17:43] phrag: yeah, i did both. i'll wait for another time to redo it [17:43] my AR24XX works great but the AR54XX isn't so happy [17:44] well my atheros cards play along fine :) [17:44] chopp: ... [17:44] nullboy: which one were you intending to actually use as an AP? [17:44] antler: it took me awhile to configure and such, but is great once you get it working [17:44] nille_: right, with 2.6.29 and master mode? [17:44] vatgas1 (n=val@123.145.40.166) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:44] using ath5k [17:44] no master mode here [17:44] chopp: i wanted to use the AR54XX but it seems like that won't happen [17:44] i'm having issues with mysql actually, unrelated to myth.. won't start for some reason and can't find any verbose logs [17:45] phrag: i know. i like being able to watch tv on my computer. [17:45] phrag: problem even getting my card to work as well. too big a job right now. [17:45] antler: i've moved somewhere without an ariel and costs too much to install one in my room... moving soon, but literally missed it for a year... thank goodness for tvcatchup.com =) [17:45] for you css guru's out there, I am trying to modify a wordpress CSS template. I'd like to make the overall body larger. the header/footer image is 936px, same as the body. If i wanted to make that larger, would i first have to make the header/footer image larger (IE: 1100px) or can i just do it within css and it will just stretch the image longer? [17:46] antler: Okay here we are again. drum roll... [17:46] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:46] all upgraded firefox btw? o.0 [17:46] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:46] jose (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Action: nachox upgraded to opera [17:47] agentc0re: depends on teh css , can you pastbin the css file? [17:47] Hi I-m running my new slackware 12.2 [17:47] vatgas (n=val@123.145.42.33) joined ##slackware. [17:47] agentc0re: hahah [17:47] spirt (n=spirt@pppoe12341.mv.ru) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:48] nullboy: just out of curiousity, whats the "Vendor:device" on that AR54XX? [17:49] agentc0re: if it sues images for backgrounds they should rpeat to fill the space. if they are actual single images, then you cana djust their width individually but they may distort if you don't watch the aspect ratio [17:49] bah, same error. [17:49] agentc0re: lol [17:50] nullboy doesn't madwifi work [17:50] chopp: http://pastebin.ca/1376211 [17:50] nille_: madwifi is wrose [17:50] worse [17:50] stuck beacon bug is really annoying [17:50] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [17:51] it did for my AR54XX when i used it as an ap [17:51] yeah well rnadom stuck beacons don't make for a good AP [17:51] jose (n=jose@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Connection timed out [17:51] i've talked with the openwrt guys too and there is no solid fix [17:51] sh0ne (n=Unknown@212.200.204.188) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [17:51] agentc0re: i can't for the life of me remember how i got it to compile that one time. i was doped up on codeine and cough supressants. as a matter of fact, i could be imagining that it compiled. [17:51] NyteOwl: I guess depending on the css code, is it supposed to repeat the image from end to end or actually "stretch" the image? When i first tried expanding my body, it repeated it from end to end and the image has rounded corners so it looked out of place. [17:52] antler: it keeps telling me that libavcodec needs to be compiled with fPIC but it is. [17:52] and compat-wireless doesn't help? [17:52] i'm running the latest kernel [17:52] then you need to wait for an fix :( [17:52] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] ... [17:53] Hi can I assume that all these packages required to be installed in my machine, after install Slackware 12.2 [17:53] agentc0re: sounds liek they designed the image to fit a particualr size space (stupid way to do it but ...) If it's set as a background, you'll have to resize the image in GIMP or some such as you can't "stretch" a background image using CSS [17:53] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [17:54] yxz97: those appear to be security updates [17:54] security updates all good stuff [17:54] nullboy: I think I read about a patch for that as well, but I've read so much on this crap in the last few days I can't remember for sure. [17:55] chopp: thanks again for all that help with the hauppauge, btw. :) [17:55] chopp: well the AR24XX works but it's a PC card. [17:55] antler, I want all updates security as fixes too as well [17:55] chopp: my AR54XX is minipci and in that is all i can use for the AP so i'm stuck now [17:55] and that** [17:55] antler: no problem at all, too bad it doesn't work though. [17:56] NyteOwl: Okay, great that was the answer i was looking for. :D [17:57] My mouse whell is not working now, damn [17:57] nullboy: the devs are in #linux-wireless , just so you know. [17:58] NyteOwl: http://learnix.net it's the header image. I'd rather try to mod the css file in % not px. Would i just need to drop that image all together or at least mod it so it would get all messed up in a % resize? [17:58] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] my AR54XX is an pci card with an onboard mini-pci but it doesn't work to good in Managed it disconnects from most routers [18:00] so i have a piece of crap 400MW commercial card [18:00] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] actually this is the 600mw version [18:00] it's the +s [18:00] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:00] hey nullboy : your friend is back. heh [18:00] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] olicz (n=paigerov@r5bu30.net.upc.cz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) left irc: "Leaving." [18:01] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] nullboy: it's slow in there, but you'll get an answer I'm sure. [18:02] yeah it's cool [18:03] i just hope someone can tell me what they need from me for a decent bug report about this [18:03] the hardlock is bad [18:03] i just lost a config file due ot that [18:03] not good [18:04] here is the error I get when I run the mplayer slackbuild http://pastebin.ca/1376070 [18:05] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:05] I have the mplayer codecs installed already [18:05] jiffypop (n=ace@32.179.78.104) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:05] aceofspades19: i've never tried the one from sbo, but alienBOB 's has always worked for me [18:06] it bugs me that the sbo one doesn't work [18:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] it works [18:06] wow. i'm 1.6Gb in swap.. [18:07] try a different svn pull [18:07] how do I do that? [18:07] pull it [18:07] MPlayer SVN-r29092-4.3.3 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team [18:07] i'm on 29092 and it works great [18:07] I have mplayer-svn_r27865.tar.bz2 [18:08] dejavu [18:08] MPlayer-r28929-i486-1alien.tgz is mine, works [18:08] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host101-62-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:08] hmmm [18:09] gentoo puts up new pulls every month or so on their mirrors, so I typically just update to that every month or so [18:10] alienBOB, i made my mplayer coredump with a wma file, want to try? :) [18:11] Shuren (n=Devilman@host101-62-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:11] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] nachox: WMA is not what I want to play [18:12] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] Shuren (n=Devilman@host101-62-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:15] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [18:15] chopp: now it works but there is no TX power to SNR [18:15] gg. [18:15] Nick change: chance22 -> slackdoc [18:15] to/or [18:16] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:16] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] Shuren (n=Devilman@host101-62-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:17] Nick change: slackdoc -> chance22 [18:18] nullboy: at what rate? I think some have to be manually set to like 11M or something like that. [18:18] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [18:19] there's just nothing at all [18:19] hostapd acts like it is working but there is not TX power [18:19] the AP wont show up in kismet either [18:20] hostapd defaults to enabling all rates for all hardware [18:20] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [18:20] yes I know. [18:20] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) left irc: "Leaving" [18:21] man this is such a mess still [18:22] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] higuita7 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:24] hing (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:26] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.93.236.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "*snurk*" [18:26] nullboy: git the wireless-testing tree :) [18:27] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:27] screw it, i can't make it worse..might as well [18:28] believe me, I know how frustrating it is. [18:31] makerc (n=makerc@189-46-100-98.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:32] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.52.147.209) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:33] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: "~" [18:34] nullboy: then do a: git log -p drivers/net/wireless/ath5k amazing stuff [18:34] are you talking about using the compat or testing? [18:34] what is the git pull for testing? [18:35] John Linville's tree: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Documentation/git-guide [18:35] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.87.111.32) joined ##slackware. [18:37] higuita7 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:37] higuitas (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:38] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A73CFA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:39] dang what is this pulling? the whole kernel? [18:39] yup :) [18:40] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:40] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [18:40] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-041-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430408.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] i don't know wtf to do with this [18:41] some kernel devs personal kernel tree? [18:41] i'll die [18:41] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:42] jiffypop (n=ace@32.179.48.242) joined ##slackware. [18:42] from what I understand, it's no different than 2.6.29, except the wifi [18:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] build it and they will come [18:44] Hey, any of you guys familiar with jackaudio? [18:44] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.178.9) joined ##slackware. [18:44] I get some lame stuff while trying to get the server running with alsa [18:44] D: [18:45] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/audio/jack-audio-connection-kit/ [18:45] read everything there [18:45] dude.. what the hell is the slackbuilds shit... [18:45] you can leave now [18:46] no shit [18:46] I am not leaving.. screw that o_o [18:46] maybe if you'd read something once in a while you'd learn something [18:46] Action: matsuura bookmarks slackbuilds [18:46] nullboy: actually, ive been reading a lot of shit, just not from there.. [18:46] :\ [18:46] not familiar with that site.. [18:46] oh yeah? then here http://slackbuilds.org/faq/ [18:47] matsuura: what planet did you come from [18:47] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a83-132-113-29.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:47] lol [18:47] Why do you assume that everyone sits on the net all day site your freqently visit? [18:48] why do you assume that we do that too? [18:48] because apparently, I am suppose to know thoroughly of slackbuilds.org :p [18:48] no that's not what we said [18:48] This is a Slackware channel. slackbuilds.org is a well-known Slackware related resource [18:48] it's whatyou implied [18:48] i pasted a link and you go "wtf omg bbq" [18:48] alienBOB: yeah, maybe to the majority [18:48] instead of reading [18:49] nullboy: [22:45] < nullboy> you can leave now [18:49] :\ [18:49] Well at least _now_ you know [18:49] yeah man [18:49] matsuura: how long have you been using slackware for? [18:49] read the FAQ at slackbuilds.org, matsuura. all will be revealed [18:49] matsuura: you had this conversation with others allready, and it was explained to you. [18:49] alienBOB: yeah, now im in that majority :O [18:49] i hope you soon join the majority of banned trolls too [18:49] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] Once you stop learning new things, you're about to die. So all is well now [18:49] how do you figure I am a troll? [18:50] when I am simply looking for info? [18:50] what the fuck.. [18:50] matsuura: there writing is on wall, sort of speak [18:50] nullboy: you are playing the troll too [18:50] well your "what did you come from was trollish too [18:50] ... wow, you guys are fucking morons [18:50] ... [18:50] matsuura (n=umeii@pool-173-55-246-4.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [18:50] nullboy: next time ignore the guy [18:51] Or else mr. pain will join too [18:51] what does that mean? [18:51] post a "Please do not feed the trolls" at the door of ##slackware [18:52] nullboy: when you dislike someone in this channel you just don't stop nagging [18:52] Next time, I could very well be fed up with that behaviour [18:52] alienBOB: i guess you didn't see how he greeted me [18:52] he was disliked by all [18:52] nullboy: I did see [18:52] And he also told that you acted likewise yesterday [18:53] So - ignoring is better than messing someone up [18:53] guys, upnp servers are supposed to do audio streaming right? [18:53] alienBOB: I do understand where you are coming from but you also had some snide remarks for me too. I'll take head to your warning but I do think that I was not the only one... [18:53] gnubien (n=e@63.252.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] for me/for him [18:53] nullboy: I have snide remarks for you whenever you deserve them [18:54] nachox: i would venture to say yes. I use ushare which allows for that. [18:54] alienBOB: does that work for everyone? I felt he deserved a snide remark in return for what he gave me. [18:54] agentc0re, how does it work? what do you use to connect to it? [18:54] The "what planet did you come from" is not trollish btw, coming from an alien [18:54] nachox: I use it to connect to my xbox360. [18:54] nullboy: what part of the word "ignore" was unclear? [18:55] I didn't say that i had a problem understanding that, I said I understand your warning. [18:55] OK [18:55] Action: NyteOwl is from Theta Virgoi IV [18:55] s/Virgoi/Virgo [18:56] higuitas (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:56] higuitas (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:56] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [18:58] nachox: I've been meaning to make a SBo of ushare... But i've been a procrastinator lately. [19:01] acidkill_: brb [19:01] er brb [19:01] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [19:02] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:02] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!" [19:03] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.147.241) left irc: "Quit" [19:03] my favorite alien planet is omicron persei 8 [19:04] nullboy: you're putting "wireless-testing" in lilo? ;) [19:04] building it right now [19:05] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:05] nullboy: I knew you would. [19:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:06] alienBOB: can i have an alien hug now? I forgot where you were coming from. [19:07] you're right, the where are you from thing, when coming from another alien, is not such a bad thing [19:07] group hug - chopp [19:07] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.132.82.213) left irc: "leaving" [19:11] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [19:13] I have set the hardware clock to local time, but it didn't get the clock change. Do you know, what to do? [19:14] Tirili: your hardware clock is correct but the system isn't synced? [19:14] Hm. [19:14] How do I sync it? [19:14] dflkjsdf (n=root@adsl-99-29-184-153.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] Do you mean syncing it with a clock-system in the internet? [19:15] can someone tell me why when i upgraded slackware to 12.2 none of my users are allowed to execute /bin/bash [19:15] I don't know, if it is synced. How can I find out? [19:15] Tirili: is your system time or bios time correct? [19:15] Tirili: try this: ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc [19:16] and also it is complaining about libpixman being missing when i try to start X but id rather know the first question if anyone can h elp [19:16] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-041-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:16] dflkjsdf: what method did you use to upgrade and from what version to 12.2? [19:17] nullboy: i know youll call me stupid but 12.0 12.2 using slackpkg [19:17] i'm not calling anyone stupid? [19:17] well thats what i usually get [19:17] sorry for assuming [19:17] but i didn't even say anything [19:17] no you didnt, my apologies [19:17] i guess this is an ignore need right alienbob? [19:17] done. [19:18] wow [19:18] see what i mean :) [19:18] doesnt matter what way you cut it [19:18] its what i get for help [19:18] its because i called it first this time [19:18] when all ele fails, Read the Instructions! [19:18] hes probably incapable of helping anyway, is there anyone else knowledgeable of slackware? [19:19] nullboy: troll somewhere else [19:19] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-041-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] slackware support ftw [19:19] slackware un-support ftl [19:19] wtf...now theres another fine example. [19:19] it really is as simple as that [19:19] Ok, the slackware time changed (I was disconnect from irc :) ) [19:19] chopp: he's still going? [19:19] nullboy: yes he is [19:19] nullboy: someday youll be a full grown man [19:19] chopp: i didn't do anything. [19:20] Do I always have to execute this ntpdate command to make clock changes work? [19:20] nullboy: your smart aleck remark and incapability to forgive is aboev [19:20] nullboy: scroll up [19:20] nullboy: trust me when I say you'd be glad you had him on ignore. [19:20] Tirili: no, you can use the ntp rc scripts [19:20] you know what [19:20] Tirili: i use ntpd [19:20] slackware is dying [19:20] in reality [19:20] probably because of the failed politicians that patrol this "help" channel :) [19:20] gewt (n=roflfail@you.need.to.stfu-kthx.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] the initrd is extremely slow to load [19:21] dflkjsdf: GTFO! [19:21] it practically stalls [19:21] hey Pig_Pen, do _YOU_ know anything about slackware? [19:21] anything about my problem above?? [19:21] "oh i do, but i just dont like you" [19:21] i see [19:21] dflkjsdf: he knows enough to READ instructions prior to an upgrade. [19:21] my apologies [19:21] you upgraded from 12 to 12.2 and now your system is broken [19:21] yeah [19:21] drugs are bad, mmmkay? [19:21] i did read the instructions [19:22] dflkjsdf: nobody here knows you. You don't waltz into a channel for the first time (or even if it's not the first time, where nobody knows you) and make smartass comments while wanting help. If you do, don't be surprised if you get ignored or flamed. [19:22] loadinh the unitrd from the dvd stalls [19:22] its the first time [19:22] causes a rbeoot. [19:22] im usually on forums [19:22] my apologies [19:22] wtf [19:22] why deoes loadign the initrd cause a rbeoot? [19:22] such a lack of forgiveness? [19:23] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:23] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] ##slackware: mode change '+b %dflkjsdf!*@*' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [19:23] dflkjsdf (n=root@adsl-99-29-184-153.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [19:23] dflkjsdf: Watch how rational people do this. When ... geez. [19:23] was dflkjsdf masaska? [19:23] No idea. [19:24] I just wanted him to shut up for a minute while I explained something. Oh well. [19:24] for the record i was going to help him but i was just told to stfu [19:24] uh [19:24] is soemthign corrupted, if loading the initrd causes a reboot? [19:24] gewt: has it made it all the way through at all? [19:24] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left ##slackware. [19:24] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [19:25] thx for your help and good night! :) [19:25] gewt, did you build a kernel? [19:25] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-041-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [19:25] no [19:25] it's the install dvd [19:25] it rbeotos on loading initrd.img [19:25] but when you installed slackware you selected a kernel that requires an initrd? [19:26] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] no [19:26] you may have to boot your installed system with the CDROM and run mkinitrd, check the readme file in /boot [19:26] it's bootign the install cd [19:26] dvd qas dirty :/ [19:26] i'm installign slack to an old hd [19:26] to a P1 mmx, should I use a hugesmp.s? or huge.s? [19:27] thats ancient [19:27] will slackware-12.2 run on something that old? [19:27] gewt: how much ram? [19:28] 64MB [19:28] personally if i was using something that old i would stick with slackware-11 or use DeLiLinux which is specifically made for ancient hardware [19:28] slack-11 involves em downloading more stuff on a slow dsl connetcion [19:29] ah [19:29] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [19:29] http://www.delilinux.org/ with that old hardware you might be interested in this [19:30] anyone use the gnome app scrible? [19:30] still involves downlaoding aLOT PROBABLY [19:30] probably a full 600MB [19:30] gewt: 252MB [19:30] still big. [19:30] gewt: I don't think you have much choice with that hardware. [19:30] andf it'll eb a server anyway [19:31] rworkman: i managed to make it to alabama. spent last night in tusceegee sp? am in phenix city at the moment [19:31] gewt: 60MB for console only [19:31] so console-only is better I assume [19:31] i am unsure if Slackware will effectivly run on that old of a system, Deli Linux would be a better alternaive if Slackware wont run good on it [19:31] 8 minutes to download 60MB [19:31] 7 now [19:32] i take that back. does anyone use scribes? [19:32] ugh, gotta lay down for a few minutes [19:33] Pig_Pen: cut back on the everclear. ;) [19:34] too much mexican food, got a full tummy [19:34] ahh lol [19:35] hm [19:35] i'm gonan install to a disk now, then take the disk to the old P1 [19:35] will I need to play with grub? [19:35] or kernls? [19:35] for delilinux? [19:37] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-77-50.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:38] Pig_Pen: that's not all you'll be doing in a few minutes :P [19:39] ender (n=u4870488@dsl093-011-050.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] gewt (n=roflfail@you.need.to.stfu-kthx.net) left ##slackware ("[|?|] <--> [|?|]"). [19:40] Action: ender wonders is anyone around [19:40] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.6.26) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] Action: antler jabs ender with a klingon pain stick. answer your question, foo? [19:42] gewt, i have not installed or used delilinux, i am just aware that the project exists specifically for reviving old and ancient hardware [19:42] antler: I'm guessing you don't have another box to try that hauppage in? [19:43] jiffypop: still a long ways off from here :) [19:43] chopp: no, i wish [19:44] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:44] jiffypop! whassup ma headbangin friend? :P [19:44] w0ls0n (n=w0ls0n@22-142-135-64.dsl.sacoriver.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:45] nullboy: hurry up and boot that damn kernel, the suspense is killing me. :) [19:45] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [19:45] chopp: it's slower than glaciers [19:45] lol [19:45] i'm compiling it on a celeron 500 [19:46] glaciers are quicker [19:46] distcc over irc [19:46] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:48] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [19:48] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Action: chopp wonders if the channel sometimes thinks he's retarded, due to the bizarre stuff he blurts out. [19:49] you're not? [19:49] thanks I needed that. [19:49] np [19:50] plenty of brillient people have a crazy side to them [19:50] And then there's jkwood [19:50] Meckafett (i=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:51] if you don't have a crazy side you're probably stupid...brains and crazy just go together :) [19:51] lol, hiya antler [19:51] lol!!! i think edman007 is right [19:52] edman007: i have not seen your crazy side [19:52] rworkman: i know, dude. just thought that since i was somewhat in the area, i woiuld say hey [19:52] antler, lies [19:53] just delivered in houston and then loaded in kansas city and delivered in houston again and now i gotta be in fort benning in the morning [19:53] and nashville day after [19:53] and dayton day after that [19:53] and maryland day after that [19:53] and mass day after that [19:53] i think some people hide their crazy side, they probably go in to a closet and curse profanities in a quiet voice, while others just let it all hang out in front of everybody [19:53] antler: did I ever tell you about the time him and nixchixor....ahh nevermind [19:53] and then connecticut [19:54] damn [19:55] ender (n=u4870488@dsl093-011-050.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: "Exit Game" [19:55] chopp: everybody knows what they did together. but that's the thing: to edman007, that's normal, not crazy at all. [19:55] jiffypop: sounds tiring, man [19:55] nah, it's just routine for me [19:56] jiffypop, oh, CT? [19:56] after 17 years, it's routine [19:56] wtf are you doing anyways? [19:56] i move people [19:56] Action: jiffypop is a mover [19:56] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [19:56] not a shaker [19:56] dead people? [19:56] lol, no [19:56] hahahaha [19:56] ....i need some help over here [19:56] which a nickname like that, i would expect you to be a mover AND a shaker [19:57] are you dead? [19:57] jiffypop, no, antler [19:57] jiffypop: do you work for one of those commercial moving companies? [19:57] i do, sir [19:57] Atlas [19:57] he works for "two little guys with big hearts" [19:57] oh [19:57] :D [19:57] mayflower for 8 years, atlas for 9 [19:58] i bet that is an interesting job [19:58] it can be [19:58] trust me [19:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] meet lots of people, and get free junk when they cant keep it [19:58] hba (n=hba@189.188.150.236) joined ##slackware. [19:58] ayuh, that too [19:58] jiffypop: i'm more interested in whether or not single women in their lonely apartments have propositioned you [19:59] well, how to answer that [19:59] my wife might find these logs [19:59] hehe [19:59] lol [19:59] lol [19:59] hehe [19:59] lol [19:59] even for you saying that if she did find the logs she would still ask you about it :) [19:59] i said "propositioned" so you're safe :P [19:59] usually, it's the married ones [19:59] you would be surprized what intimate items are discovered when moving furnature, once i found porno videos under a couch, and once a sex toy package without the toy inside [20:00] i had an 87 year old nurse slap my ass in front of the wife once in memphis [20:00] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware. [20:00] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:00] i had a chicks toy fall out of a drawr....didnt help me get laid with her =/ [20:00] they channel logs are on google btw =P [20:00] these* [20:00] dammit man [20:00] :-/ [20:01] phrag: ur a proud gun nut, im a proud man whore. all is well =D [20:01] jiffypop: as long as your true identity is not displayed you're safe [20:01] how am i gun nut!? [20:01] i most certainly am not [20:01] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [20:02] i had a rifle when i lived in the country, that's it... i resent that comment! [20:02] do i got remember you having many pictures of rifles? [20:02] i look at the internet as a masquerade party, it is best joined with a good disguise or at least anonymously [20:02] edman007: yea, i gotta be in CT somewhere around the end of next week [20:02] Arauto (n=leandro@201.17.171.96) joined ##slackware. [20:02] it was 2 pictures of one rifle... oh how i love exhageration [20:02] lol [20:02] phrag: well i did call me a man whore lol [20:03] nah, it's all good. my wife has absolutely no interest with my linux ventures [20:03] we have an MP in britain whose husband bought loads of porn on her public expenses card... ruh roh [20:04] MP being member of parlement btw [20:04] i own a .357 colt python and a remington 870 12 gauge shotgun, both for home & personal protection, but i am no gun nut, it is to protect me and my family and property from whackos that could intrude and do us harm [20:04] sounds like that talk show host who paid for an escort with a cheque or something like that.... [20:04] Pig_Pen: when you're with a woman for 17 years...you're never safe [20:05] antler: not really, this is tax payers money =P [20:05] pacman87 (i=500@resnet-46-40.dorm.utexas.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:05] my wife is probably a better shot than i am [20:05] phrag: oh public expenses card. didn't read that [20:05] so how is xfce 4.6? [20:05] =) [20:05] kitche: excellent, of course :) [20:05] Pig_Pen: you live in a dangerous area? [20:06] i tried to build xfce-4.6 on 12.2 and it would error out [20:06] antler: speaking of headbangin'...motorhead blew the passenger side speaker in my truck [20:06] jiffypop: doood you best fix that asap. can't have that. [20:06] bet dat ass [20:06] not dangerous here, just that i prefer to rely on my self defense, calling the cops is not always a solution for personal protection [20:06] i'm having trouble installing p2kmoto [20:07] it compiles fine, and running ./p2ktest from the compile dir is fine [20:07] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:07] Pig_Pen: that makes sense to me [20:07] but running the installed version gives: [20:07] p2ktest: error while loading shared libraries: libp2kmoto.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [20:07] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [20:07] jiffypop: that's almost as bad as being on the road with no tunes at all [20:08] and "whereis libp2kmoto" gives the right results [20:08] sure is, when some goons bust down your front door, not like they are going to wait for the cops to get there, they are going to get what they can and be gone in a few minutes [20:08] it's worse, actually. i would rather no music than half the music [20:08] heheh [20:08] pacman87: look at libp2kmoto names bet it's wrong [20:08] Nick change: tpollard_ -> tpollard [20:09] kitche: what do you mean? [20:09] jiffypop: i think i would like driving truck. i like driving long distance. i like listening to music while i drive. [20:09] pacman87: libp2kmoto.0 does not sound right should be libp2kmoto.so.0 [20:10] jiffypop: i would also like the many whorehouses with their very diverse workforce [20:10] kitche: it's listed as /usr/local/lib/libp2kmoto.0 [20:10] i like everyone listening to music when i drive [20:10] pacman87: and where did you get this "p2ktest" that's installed ? [20:10] sourceforge [20:11] as to the houses of ill repute, i must decline [20:11] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=132142&package_id=148357&release_id=316225 [20:11] pacman87: you said you had one local, and one installed ? what's the difference ? [20:11] i'm trying not to die before i reach 50, lol [20:11] the local one is in the compile directory [20:11] jiffypop: lol 'ill repute' lol [20:12] but you don't need to go to the whorehouse, the truckstop will suffice. they come right to your door [20:12] whether you want them there or not [20:12] ahhh whadda life.... [20:12] thrice`: p2ktest is part of p2kmoto, which is used my moto4lin [20:12] i've gotten it working on slackware before [20:12] it's all smoke and mirrors :-/ [20:12] so it's possible i messed up my system some other way [20:13] s/used my/used by/ [20:13] makerc (n=makerc@201-92-124-104.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:14] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:14] "aticonfig" also can't find libatiadlxx.so [20:14] pacman87: ldconfig [20:14] i'm surrounded by well-published, conservative old men who are always right. i need dirt. [20:15] gbonvehi: explain please? [20:15] run ldconfig to update shared libraries [20:15] as root, i'm assuming? [20:15] yeap [20:15] libp2kmoto is un usr/local so probably you compiled it yourself [20:15] yes [20:16] and the common error is to not run ldconfig after doing it :) [20:16] it didn't help [20:16] same error [20:16] if you want more details, man ldconfig [20:16] btw /usr/local/lib/libp2kmoto.0 is not the same as libp2kmoto.so.0 [20:17] right, i have .0 as the lib, and .0 as what p2ktest is looking for [20:17] you can run ldd on the executable and pastebin the result [20:17] .so.0 isn't mentioned [20:17] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleeeeeeeep" [20:17] not a dynamic executable [20:17] ok, take a look at the script and see which libraries it needs [20:18] sorry, see which binary the script is executing [20:18] and run ldd on that [20:18] gbonvehi: thanks, checking now [20:19] gbonvehi: never mind, i was running ldd on the p2ktest in the install dir, not in /usr/local/bin/ [20:20] gbonvehi: http://pastebin.com/m761d5317 [20:20] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:21] hi Old_Fogie:) [20:21] hello hello hello all :) [20:22] :) [20:22] hi, test har har har [20:22] hehe [20:24] pacman87: so you ran ldconfig and still doesn't work? permissions? [20:24] why i chose ext2 for /root and /home in slamd64 i do NOT know.... [20:25] so convert [20:25] why you made a /root is even more confusing :) [20:25] AFAIK it's possible [20:25] thrice`: hahah / [20:25] gbonvehi: http://pastebin.com/m336ca18b [20:26] pacman87: you swear you ran ldconfig? :P [20:27] gbonvehi: yes - http://pastebin.com/m68d50070 [20:28] weird.. it should work [20:29] can you check if /usr/local/lib is on /etc/ld.so.conf? [20:29] it is [20:30] but "ldconfig -v" doesn't mention libp2kmoto [20:30] mmm [20:31] the /usr/local/lib: section is empty [20:31] pacman87: can you explain your steps a little better? you installed libp2kmoto from source, then compiled p2kmoto, installed from source, and that's failing to run ? [20:31] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:31] 1. download p2kmoto-0.1-rc1.tar.gz from sourcforge (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=132142&package_id=148357&release_id=316225) [20:32] bbl [20:32] uncompress to ~/downloads/p2kmoto-0.1/ [20:32] run ./configure [20:32] run make [20:32] su [20:32] make install [20:33] exit [20:33] run p2ktest, fails [20:33] cd test/ [20:33] pacman87: try LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/libp2kmoto.0 p2ktest [20:33] run ./p2ktest, it works [20:34] gbonvehi: success! [20:34] i wonder why ldconfig is ignoring it [20:34] kippersalad (n=citizen4@C-59-100-83-93.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:34] with LD_PRELOAD you force the program to load that library, but it should find it automagically with ld cache [20:35] i wonder if it only checks for files containing .so... [20:35] i had to use LD_PRELOAD to fix what i though was an unrelated problem with 'aticonfig' [20:35] try making ln -s /usr/local/lib/libp2kmoto.0 /usr/local/lib/libp2kmoto.so.0 [20:37] i did that, no change, but running ldconfig after shows libp2kmoto.0 -> libp2kmoto.so.0 [20:37] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:37] success [20:37] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] by doing the .so link? [20:38] damn ldconfig isn't that smart then [20:38] yes, making the link and then rerunnign ldconfig [20:39] thanks for your help [20:39] you're welcome [20:44] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] root (n=root@cpe-72-190-70-35.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] Nick change: root -> Guest33144 [20:46] velusip (n=Miranda@65.38.42.173) joined ##slackware. [20:46] hi could someone help me out, im trying to set up my hvr-1600 tuner card, i installed the drivers and now when xorg loads i get error, input/output error from video [20:47] argonaut (n=epoch@adsl-99-29-184-153.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] i have nvidia 7600 gt, this didnt happen until i installed the drivers [20:47] cx18 module [20:48] upgraded 12.0 to 12.2 using slackpkg with only minor injury...it seems everything /lib/lib*2.7*so had permissions of 700 and not 755 [20:48] nullboy couldnt help, rworkman would just rather ban people...power corrupts [20:48] ban me again you avid slackware supporter you! [20:48] ban everyone that needs help thats the right way! [20:49] jackoff. [20:49] argonaut (n=epoch@adsl-99-29-184-153.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:49] nille_ (i=1000@c-3062e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:49] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] jajaja :) [20:50] Guest33144 (n=root@cpe-72-190-70-35.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:50] Ah, it's epoch, the guy who thought it was a good idea to flood the channel with a botnet. [20:50] Maybe power corrupts, but since he's around, I'm glad that stupid doesn't catch. [20:51] rwork "the corrupted" man :) [20:52] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] he missed 12.1 [20:52] :) [20:53] hey, has someone tested the nouveau driver?, some slackbuild to give a try? [20:54] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-197-126.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] #fedora [20:55] haha it was epoch too. [20:55] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] rworkman: yeah and you know what he said you banned him whne in reality you jsut muted him [20:57] Right. [20:57] Sadly, the guy isn't an idiot, in reality. He writes pretty good perl (for some value of perl) -- he wrote the botnet control stuff. [20:57] apsides (i=apsides@gateway/tor/x-0e6ecb04b56ea7a4) joined ##slackware. [20:57] hba (n=hba@189.188.150.236) left irc: "leaving" [20:58] hba: I don't think slackware's xorg will work with it, as it's too old; i think you'll need some GEM framework [20:58] http://www.ep0ch.net/ [20:58] we still have to kick rworkman to making xorg "just work" :> [20:59] ha [20:59] rworkman: one can be an idiot and still write good software [21:00] straterra: true that. [21:00] hba (n=hba@189.188.150.236) joined ##slackware. [21:00] his site doesn't have much and a lot of his tools are alwaready writteen some place wel la few of them anyways [21:01] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.199.163) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [21:04] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [21:04] psychpaths are not stupid, they just have no concern for the well being of others, they do what they want regardless of who gets hurt or the consecquences [21:04] Maybe he had root's umask set to 077? [21:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy looks like the description of the type of people that write botnets, viruses & any other malware that causes problems for people and their computers [21:09] Nick change: gm152_ -> gm152 [21:09] Pig_Pen: in my career I've run into sociopaths, managers who didn't care who they stepped on. creepy people [21:11] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:11] i know the type, it is best to stay out of thier way so they dont target you, then when the moment is right you can go over their head with enough evidence to get them canned/fired [21:12] Pig_Pen: yeah, that's what I did, tried to stay low and out of the way. I'm glad they're gone [21:13] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:14] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-197-126.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:16] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] rworkman: angband slackbuild looks good to me [21:17] dinner time:) [21:17] bbl [21:18] Nick change: tpollard_ -> tpollard [21:18] dionysian: good deal. It's in READY :) [21:19] cool, thanks :D [21:19] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:19] should provide nice counterbalance to nethack [21:19] velusip (n=Miranda@65.38.42.173) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:22] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [21:23] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] velusip (n=Miranda@65.38.42.173) joined ##slackware. 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[21:43] <_ohm> fdisk [21:43] <_ohm> or cfdisk [21:44] Pig_Pen: 282 mpg [21:44] _ohm: they do jfs and reiser and all that? [21:44] wow! thats good [21:44] Pig_Pen: runs on diesel [21:44] that would make the oil companies sweat a little [21:44] antler: you make the file systems after the partitions [21:45] Pig_Pen: runs on diesel and batterys [21:45] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.157.61.250) joined ##slackware. [21:45] <_ohm> antlet: yeah pretty sure, that is what you normally use to setup partitions when you install linux [21:45] <_ohm> antler: id be really surprised if they didn't [21:45] diesel is a good alternative to gasoline, diesel engines can use vegetable oil and other organic fine oil [21:46] thrice`: _ohm ok got it. :) [21:46] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:47] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: [21:47] Pig_Pen: yea. maybe there will be bio-diesel in a few years [21:48] Pig_Pen: that vw 1 liter car will be sold for $600 beginning soon in hong kong [21:49] Pig_Pen: for sale in Shanghai in 2010 for a mere RMB 4,000 = US $600.00 [21:49] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:50] jiffypop (n=ace@32.179.48.242) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:51] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) joined ##slackware. [21:54] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:55] that would help a lot of people to get out from under the weight of high gas prices [21:55] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [21:55] omg jfs_mkfs on a 1tb is fast [21:56] jiffypop (n=ace@166.204.250.29) joined ##slackware. [21:56] almost instantaneous [21:56] hba (n=hba@189.188.150.236) left irc: "leaving" [21:56] just for the record, i now HATE supermicro [21:56] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.157.61.250) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:56] Pig_Pen: yes, helpful if the cost per mile is reasonable; battery maintainance,etc [21:57] i got a mobo from them, the buggiest mobo i have ever had... [21:57] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.157.61.250) joined ##slackware. [21:57] edman007: biostar makes a very good quality low priced mobo [21:58] even with the mpg that thing gets even without a battery it is a great improvement [21:58] won't detect 12GB of the ram listed on their site as "supported", i actually crashed the BIOS, linux sometimes locks trying to load VT (depends if i configured the BIOS "right") [21:59] grub won't boot with the sata in AHCI mode... [21:59] return the mobo? [21:59] edman007: supermicro mobo's have lots of alsa problems too [22:00] gnubien, yea...thats nice, but the thing is this is suppose to be a *Server* board, centos won't detect the NIC... [22:00] gnubien, i don't care about alsa... [22:01] and on top of that, fedora is the only kernel i got booting kinda right... [22:01] edman007: what is your plan about the mobo? return it? [22:01] and fedora won't install to LVM on raid10...so i'm installing gentoo from the fedora cd... [22:01] fedora isn't a kernel [22:02] gnubien, call supermicro... [22:02] dionysian, well the kernel on their installer [22:02] actually, i'm going to see if i can find a beta BIOS on their ftp... [22:02] /dev/sdb1 /mnt/myJFS jfs defaults 0 1 ; chmod 1777 /mnt/myJFS to get write perms <------ is that kosher? [22:03] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:05] seems ok... [22:06] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:10] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [22:10] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Nick collision from services. 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[22:25] hi all. with Slackware.... if I install using "installpkg -root /mnt/whatever whateverPackage.tgz" what besides fstab and lilo/grub and passwd do I need to do afterwords [22:25] tehlor (n=user@cpe-71-64-199-101.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:25] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.178.9) left irc: "leaving" [22:29] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] gametop (n=chatzill@201.78.111.111) joined ##slackware. [22:29] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:31] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:31] hello? [22:31] Action: Dominian hears an echo! [22:31] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@32.142.61.163) joined ##slackware. [22:32] Action: nachox disregards it, it was generated by chatzilla [22:32] heh [22:32] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@32.142.61.163) left irc: Success [22:32] nachox: grsecurity = pita [22:32] Once I get the concepts down.. I'll be fine.. bu tuntil then.. sheesh [22:32] Dominian, when you dont configure it to your needs it will tend to get in the way [22:32] Action: olefowdie realizes that not many people are actually at their machines... [22:33] nachox: yeah.. I just have to tweak it [22:33] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:33] is it ok to type here without having registered the nick? [22:33] nachox: mainly email stopped working.. and I couldn't get in via console.. which was bad [22:33] and ssh stopped working lol [22:33] gametop: sure [22:33] ok great [22:33] i just want a simple answer [22:33] Dominian, you had to basically reboot [22:33] Arauto (n=leandro@201.17.171.96) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:33] nachox: yep [22:33] nachox: I have learning mode going right now.. [22:34] i want to start using slackware and i got an old 12.1 dvd laying around, should i DL the new 12.2 or just use the old dvd and update my packages afterwards? [22:34] YOu *can* do that.. [22:34] in otherwords, is it that important to have 'the latest version'. [22:34] but I would suggest just going with 12.2 [22:34] Dominian, just configure the basic protection and leave the more advanced file protection for later or things will blow up a lot [22:34] gametop: do a fresh install of 12.2 [22:34] nachox: Oh.. I know [22:34] nachox: I have the "low" level enabled right now [22:34] nachox: this is just for the RBAC system [22:35] Dominian, RBAC in linux is non existent :) [22:35] nachox: not with grsecurity ;) [22:35] i've never used slackware purely so im wondering on the implications of 12.1 [22:35] over 12.2 i mean [22:35] grsecurity HAS an RBAC system [22:35] gametop, do 12.2 - you should NEVER use slackpkg to upgrade from one release to another in one giant swoop. [22:35] gametop: well the changelog is going to be your best bet to see what was changed. [22:35] olefowdie: You can.. I've done it [22:35] ok thanks a lot guys [22:35] cheers [22:35] slackpkg actually does upgrades pretty sanely [22:36] why? slackpkg handles that perfectly [22:36] Dominian, unless things have changed a LOT, the RBAC in grsecurity does not do what the RBAC i'm used to does, it's more like the SELinux [22:36] slackpkg knows not to upgrade aaa_elflibs.. it also knows to upgrade pkgtools and glibc-solibs first before doing anything else. [22:36] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a83-132-113-29.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:36] Dominian, yeah but doing so is awful - a switch from 12.2 to the next release through slackpkg would be dangerous considering that the scripts and whatnot will be change quite a bit [22:36] nachox: oh its changed quite a bit [22:37] olefowdie: not so much as slackpkg will die.. from 12.1 to 12.2 should be cake [22:37] but I always suggest a new install of the latest stable. [22:37] Dominian, what does it do now? [22:37] nachox: same thing.. inherited ACLs [22:37] perhaps. you do not want to do something that will not Always work though. starts bad habits. [22:37] so you set / with yoru default ACL.. then you can explicity add to each subject/object or take away.. whatever you want. [22:37] has chroot lockdown [22:38] greetings [22:38] anyway, I never really use anything like apt or slackpkg or portage... i prefer knowing exactly what's happening to my system at all times... [22:38] olefowdie: I know what slackpkg is doing.. because it utilizes pkgtools to do so [22:39] it just means less typing for me [22:39] nachox: after what happened with wordpress.. I wanna get grsecurity working. [22:39] nachox: with grsecurity going.. wouldn't have to worry about if something like that happened again [22:39] they wouldn't get anywhere [22:39] slackpkg works fine, and because you might not prefer it, does not mean you should not suggest it to others [22:39] Dominian, oh, i was right, it's more like the SELinux, it is designed to restrict permisions once you've given root access [22:40] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [22:40] nachox: basically.. however I hate selinux.. grsecurity seems more sane to me for some reason. [22:41] thrice` i would suggest it for small things, just not a full system upgrade [22:41] tehlor (n=user@cpe-71-64-199-101.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: "tehlor has no reason" [22:41] why, it was coded for full-system upgrades [22:42] Dominian, everyone hates SELinux :) [22:42] heh [22:42] nachox: If it was my choice between that and apparmor.. I'd proably chose apparmor [22:43] Dominian, apparmor is more user friendly i was told, yes [22:44] i'd love it if it were actually integrated in the main kernel but now it's just an external patch just like grsecurity [22:44] what exactly is SELinux?? [22:44] nachox: Well, grsecurtiy seems very easy to get at least a simplistic configuration going inside the kernel [22:44] well, hell [22:45] ugh moving 900 gigs is NOT fun, especially if you can't resist looking at the progress... [22:45] looks like i'm off to boboland. talk at y'all when i get a chance [22:45] later jiffypop take it easy [22:45] likewise antler [22:45] olefowdie, google it, much faster than explaining it, it's an nsa funded enhancement to the linux kernel based on flask, it provides TE and RBAC [22:46] sirboderafael (i=1000@189.14.243.157) joined ##slackware. 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[22:58] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.6.26) left irc: "Leaving" [22:58] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:59] antler: ping [22:59] agentc0re: at your service [22:59] guess what? [22:59] no, really? [22:59] nope not yet. Just thought i'd get your hopes up. :P [22:59] lol bastard [22:59] But, i think it's going to work this time. [22:59] nachox: whats TE? [23:00] nooper: tight end [23:00] agentc0re: well give me some direction, bruthah. [23:00] antler: I had to move to a newer version of ffmpeg. I think the one that was included had some x86-64 issues. [23:00] aha [23:01] antler: Once i am done i'll give you the build script(s) and you'll be on your way. :) [23:01] TE is Type Enforcement, nooper [23:01] nooper: it's kind of a cross between a fullback and a wide receiver, that lines up on the line of scrimmage [23:01] agentc0re: which version of ffmpeg? [23:01] antler: They're just slight modifications. [23:01] antler: Todays SVN pull [23:01] typically they perform some combination of blocking and receiving [23:01] agentc0re: ok, thanks. appreciate that [23:01] sirboderafael (i=1000@189.14.243.157) left irc: "Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org" [23:02] nooper, here you go: http://www.nsa.gov/research/_files/selinux/papers/policy2/t1.shtml [23:02] i'll try again as well right after 900gigs are moved [23:02] antler: http://pastebin.learnix.net/29 [23:03] nooper, Type Enforcement [23:03] agentc0re: thanks, i'll pull it now [23:03] antler: Wait until i've verified that it will build right. there were a few changes to the vlc build script in order to get this new stuff to work. [23:04] agentc0re: should grab the new ffmpeg anyway [23:04] yes, grab that. [23:06] omg only 132 gb of 874 so far .... [23:06] this isin't slackware specific, but is there a limit to the number of tcp connections i can make? [23:07] simultaneously [23:09] antler,what's the avantage of the newer compile of ffmpeg? [23:12] acid (n=acid@cpe-72-190-70-35.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:12] MLanden: agentc0re believes that vlc will compile on slamd64 with the newer version [23:13] ok [23:13] could someone help me , when i have my video card & tuner in at same time, i get error when xorg loads,could not load /dev/nvidia0 input/output error [23:13] acid: x doesn't start? [23:13] nope [23:14] try blacklisting the module for the tuner card? [23:14] acid: What type of tuner card is it? [23:15] (heh unless of course you're trying to get the tuner card going :P) [23:15] its a Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23418 Single-Chip MPEG-2 Encoder with Integrated Analog Video/Broadcast Audio Decoder [23:15] nachox: I think I found where grsecurity screwed up [23:15] cx18 module [23:15] nooper << I don't know much about networking, but there's lots of things that can limit that... like, tcp has a limit defined, but it's not tcp job to do real limitting. It comes down to memory limitations, then file descriptors, but really iptables should be stopping some connections before those limits are met. [23:16] nachox: apparently learning mode creates policy rules.. and I had them saved to /etc/grsec/acl instead of /etc/grsec/policy [23:16] acid: i gave up on my hauppauge... [23:16] nooper << you can look in /proc/sys/net/ipv4 for tcp settings [23:16] hmmm [23:16] Dominian, you might want to leave the learning more up and running for a longer while [23:16] thanks velusip [23:17] nachox: aye.. going to leave it running for a few days [23:17] nachox: just keep doing my "normal" routine [23:17] i was thinking a month :P [23:17] nachox: a month? lol why a month? [23:17] Action: Dominian will consult with acidchild on this one.. he'll know more about it than anyone.. [23:17] nachox: I'm also wanting to learn grsecurity as it would be something nice to add to my arsenal at work.. to secure some other servers etc [23:18] to give me time to find a way other than wordpress to gain shell access now you have grsec... er.... ^ddto give grsec a more accurate database [23:18] haha [23:18] well my slackadelic.com site gets hammered quite a bit [23:18] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] I was surprised it took this long for someone to "find a hole" [23:18] and I keep it updated regularly [23:19] Dominian, servers need supported software, ability to point at someone else, i'd be running rh there [23:19] nachox: maybe so, but existing infrastructure.. if its just a kernel patch a way.. I don't see a point in substituting in somethin gelse [23:20] i have to agree [23:21] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] acid: I had to blacklist cx18, and load it from rc.local myself. [23:22] nachox: plus grsecurity is starting to become more popluar.. mainly because you can intall it with out the need for PAM [23:22] Dominian, i think everyone but slackware has pam these days :P [23:22] unfortunately, the official grsecurity channel is on oftc [23:22] nachox: probably [23:26] straterra: http://noobfarm.org/?id=1481 hahah [23:27] hehe [23:29] smart guy [23:29] Action: agentc0re rubs face [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] mwalling just slapped me after i showed it to him. [23:29] :P [23:30] Garg (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:30] apsides (i=apsides@gateway/tor/x-304a3199aed3fd0a) left irc: "." [23:32] antler: Moment of true is up. cross your fingers. [23:32] Gut (n=Gut@189.23.192.2) joined ##slackware. [23:33] apsides (i=apsides@gateway/tor/x-c61e4cda35080178) joined ##slackware. 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[23:39] pacman87 (i=500@resnet-46-40.dorm.utexas.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [23:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:43] Nick change: LSD`_ -> LSD` [23:44] nullboy: really? crap I thought there was hope. [23:44] agentc0re: what was the error message? [23:45] http://pastebin.learnix.net/30 [23:45] chopp: the only thing i have problems with is that AR5413 [23:45] the 24XX works fine [23:45] so i think it has to do with the ABG chipsets, not just the BG [23:45] because if it waits till everything is built before installing packages, then that would explain some problems with some packages of mine. [23:47] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:47] libavcodec.... *sigh* [23:47] why do I have to enter a password /msg nickserv at login???????????? [23:48] also, is there a virtual drive somewhere on the web that I can upload like 4 gigs to? [23:48] gmail [23:48] antler: Maybe it can't be built in x86-64? i dunno. [23:48] does anyone know? [23:49] nullboy: I'll keep watch for anyone with similiar problems in #linux-wireless. The AR5413 is actually listed as OK for ath5k, but apparently not the case. [23:49] agentc0re: it can be built. <---- straight from the horse's mouth [23:49] antler: What you trying to build? [23:49] Dominian: vlc [23:49] Dominian: Your right! Gmail allows 7 GB [23:49] Dominian: me and anter are trying to build vlc for slamd64. [23:49] what do I do, just upload an attachment to an email and send it to myself? [23:50] heh actually agentc0re 's doing all the hard work [23:50] pirving: yeah you could do that.. however.. If you use firefox.. I suggest using gmail space plugin [23:50] are there any free web servers that allow unlimited file size? [23:50] I don't think gmail will allow a 4GB attachment [23:50] pirving: I highly doubt it [23:50] Wow... I need to stop reading noobfarm. I'm laughing so loud that I'm scaring my pets. [23:50] do they make a version for firefox 3.1 beta???? [23:50] MrHales: ha ha ha [23:51] pirving: probably.. just have to look [23:51] chopp: yeah, it's been listed like that for a long time and i have had these same problems with two different form factors of the atheros ABG chipsets [23:53] ok, how do I make a 3.1 plugin work in 3.1 beta? [23:54] is there a way? [23:55] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] not sure.. I don't use the betas [23:56] nullboy: back to the waiting game again I guess hey. maybe by .30 [23:56] yep [23:56] antler: Okay, got a pointer about changing part of ffmpeg build from the ffmpeg guys. here we go again! [23:57] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:57] there are a few things i'm waiting for that should happen in 2.6.20 [23:57] 30* [23:58] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:58] Hello old timer. [23:58] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.97.137) joined ##slackware. [23:58] :D [23:58] Isn't it past your bed time? [23:58] agentc0re: you forget.. old people nap all day [23:58] sleep when u die [23:59] Dominian, ++ [23:59] hehe [23:59] why does my bash script a=66; for i in ../*.jpg; do b="./00${a}.jpg"; cp $i $a; a=a+1; done; keep producing 0066+1+1+1+1+1+1...jpg rather than 0066.jpg 0067.jpg etc? [23:59] maybe because of the a=66? dunno [23:59] because a is hardcoded to 66 [00:00] --- Mon Mar 30 2009