[00:00] I'm not a whore. I never charge. [00:00] just fired up a freshly compiled 2.26.2. [00:00] gotta love that fresh paint smell [00:00] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:00] Action: NaCl wonders how Mipsalawishus can smell newly-installed software [00:01] software in boxes stinks [00:01] special hardware sensor modules installed [00:01] :) [00:02] rworkman, oh, gnome-icon-theme? i recall fussing with that check [00:02] it was quite a while ago so that might have been another app i fussed with, so if i'm smoking crack, disregard [00:03] not that one [00:04] ok well then there's another gnomish app which requires a band-aid for that heh [00:05] Action: NaCl probably has most of GNOME on his lappy [00:05] NaCl: I am sorry. [00:05] i have a _lot_ of gnome too, actually [00:05] well, thanks for all the help. i'm tired and need to enter into standby mode until 6:20am 3/29/2010. [00:05] XGizzmo: almost all for the nm-applet, actually [00:05] there are some really nice apps out there whose devs decided to put all their money on gnome [00:06] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:06] XGizzmo: NM itself doesn't need much of gnome, just Kits. [00:06] veritos (veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:07] Mipsalawishus (jared@173.217.121.53) left ##slackware. [00:07] it's OK to have most of gnome as long as you don't have Mono [00:08] Action: ut grins [00:10] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [00:13] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-95-110-253.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Wow. [00:14] i like xfce [00:14] So reinstalling solved a lot of problems. [00:14] Erm. [00:14] Does anyone know how to reinstall slackbuild packages? [00:14] the same say you reinstall your distro ones [00:14] lol [00:14] ok. i've a system time saying its 12:12 am, a cell phone saying it's 11:12pm, and an alarm clock saying it's 1:12am, i have to work early tomorrow and can not be late or i will lose my job. where can i see wtf time it is so i can fix this? EST? [00:15] just removepkg package && installpkg package [00:15] upgradepkg --reinstall bloopitybloop.tgz [00:15] or what mancha said [00:15] surely there's a website that doesn't use your system time as the comparison [00:15] time.gov [00:16] or google for " time" [00:16] ntpdate pool.ntp.org [00:16] righteous: funny, i just synced my watch [00:16] time.gov; is it account for daylight savings and all that? thats what messed me up i think [00:17] spring foward, fall back. [00:17] i live in maine, we only have winter. [00:17] DST started like 2 weeks ago [00:17] it says to right on the time applet [00:17] *so [00:17] Sounds... [00:17] OKay. [00:17] but damn good lobster, ayup? [00:18] mancha:: that is no way to speak about my grandmother. [00:19] I just use openrdate's updated rdate to rdate -s time-a.nist.gov in root when needed [00:19] i sync watches alot [00:19] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [00:23] Cann0n, guess if one has conky installed,then he or she can watch sinks(usually heat) as well...:P [00:24] i also like watching sinks at homedepot [00:24] moen? [00:24] what's this about heat sinks ? i thought heat rises (in air) ? [00:24] :P [00:24] trhodes: not if your world is upsidedown [00:25] haha [00:25] keashery (~keashery@117.136.12.68) joined ##slackware. [00:25] wow. gpm-1.20.6 changed the libgpm version to 2. it's amazing to see what that breaks [00:28] lol,Cann0n..though not a sink...at least,this lady was able to see a real nice faucet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgIfMTDTDDM [00:28] i'm on dial up :( [00:28] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] Cann0n, sorry 'bout that..just eferring to that Kohler Faucet commercial with the ladies' last word [00:29] s/eferring/referring [00:30] it's all good. i would watch it if i wasn't on dial up though. :) [00:30] i've lived a long and happy life and haven't wanted anything more out of life ... damn (she dies) [00:31] trhodes, that's the one [00:31] lol [00:31] that was the dial up friendly version [00:31] gui_ap (gui_ap@unaffiliated/gui-ap/x-6398608) left ##slackware. [00:31] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-94-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:32] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:34] ang, that xdr_ymaplist is the only symbol with relocation record of type R_386_32 on my system... fwiw [00:35] wtf that means is beyond me [00:35] trhodes: hehehe [00:35] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: *POOF* [00:36] well, going from glibc 2.3.2 to 2.11.1 is a huge leap ... i'm sure breakage is a possibility :) [00:36] but i could not get gpm-1.20.1 to compile, so I updated to 1.20.6 which did, and the versioning change on the libgpm makes tns of crap fail :) [00:36] hmm :/ [00:38] for some reason he bumped the version of the library to 2 in gpm-1.20.6 where is still version 1 in 1.20.1 ... fun stuff [00:39] glibc is the glue which holds it all together and gpm is allowing mice to roam where mice aren't meant to roam. how're these things related? :) [00:40] trhodes: my crappy solution for now: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Mar 29 00:41 libgpm.so.1 -> libgpm.so.2* [00:40] speaking of this, anyone done big glibc upgrades? say from one of the 12.x to -current's? [00:41] naw, i need to use my computer :P [00:41] dood i want to buy a new toy, i dont know what to get [00:47] later,folks...talk to all later...:D [00:47] seeya MLanden [00:47] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-168-104.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:47] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:48] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [00:48] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:51] jeev: get a video capture card and run a DVR using it with MythTV [00:52] jeev: I got a pair of dual-tuner cards for $40 each, total of 4 tuners ... makes for an awesome DVR [00:53] what chipset / brand ? [00:53] i've wanted to salvage some old VHS tapes with one, and then maybe use 'em for webcams after that [00:53] Hauppauge PVR-150's [00:54] ahh cool, thanks :) [00:54] keashery (~keashery@117.136.12.68) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:55] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:58] trhodes: I also bought an HVR-2250 in anticipation of linux support, but the linux support isn't there yet ... when it is, that board will be the most awesome capture board [01:00] eh [01:00] yea i wanted to make a DVR [01:00] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [01:00] ... its a really cool project :) [01:01] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. 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[01:32] which is X10 [01:32] that annoying ass website [01:32] haha, the one he's talking about is older than the infamous ads [01:32] X10 is a company, X-10 is a specification for home automation [01:32] pragma_ (~pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:33] big difference :) [01:33] oh [01:33] he [01:33] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:33] i dont care bout home automation, would be cool but too lazy [01:33] what else! [01:33] i want like [01:33] a 10TB nas but i dont want to spend too much [01:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_%28industry_standard%29 [01:34] seski [01:35] oh shit i should get a sick ass flashlight for my glock [01:35] http://www.surefire.com/x400 or nevermind, 455 buxd [01:37] what's a really awesome flashlight nowadays [01:37] small.. 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The G26 will be an ideal companion piece [01:45] wow [01:45] what a redneck [01:45] who carries a gun in a delivery room [01:45] I have the 21SF (.45 ACP ambidextrous) [01:45] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:45] rk4n3, i like the fact that it was compact, i also have a springfield XD [01:46] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-216-123.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] jeev: sweet - I considered the compact .45, but I just like the feel of the full-size, so that's what I went with [01:46] just kinda like the bigg'n [01:47] rk4n3, well i'm always packing a full size one in my pants.. [01:47] :) [01:47] haha - yep, once you're used to it, can't accept less :) [01:48] thats what she (I) said [01:51] sometimes it gets in the way [01:51] anyway [01:51] the classic Cold .45 v. the Colt Commander [01:51] i want a m4, so bad. [01:51] always an interesting discussion [01:51] too bad i live in kalifornia [01:52] i usta shoot an AR-15 with a buddy of mine who actually owned it; lotsa fun [01:53] Action: rk4n3 wants an AR-15 [01:53] m4, screw ar15 [01:53] aw, man [01:53] AR-15's rock [01:53] yeah, m4 is mo' betta, but AR-15 is classic fun [01:53] maginot (~maginot@189.34.18.100) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Action: brklynRednek wants a browning automatic [01:55] Action: jeev wants a sentry gun [01:56] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:57] I'll settle for an M40 [01:57] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [01:57] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:58] Hermann (~Hermannn@m83-188-184-25.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [01:58] ohhhhh i hate snipers [01:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:58] i'll settle for a B-1 Lancer [01:59] sorry - got my numbers crossed - M20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M20_recoilless_rifle [02:00] lol [02:00] crazy about the MIG eh? an armenian guy was behind that [02:00] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minigun would be fun [02:00] or an M203 [02:01] wow [02:01] i hate grenade launchers [02:02] maybe having grenades would change your opinion ? [02:02] trhodes: minigun is too hard to handle in an infantry situation [02:02] just sayin it'd be fun to shoot [02:02] standard M203 was attached under the barrel of an M16, so you had a choice :) [02:03] trhodes: afaik, the heaviest weapon easily manageable by one shooter is the browning automatic [02:04] BAR is a good alternative, as long as you have some help with the spare ammo [02:04] what's the best fighter in the sky now [02:05] su 27 or which was it [02:06] alisonken1noc: those weapons have 20-round magazines [02:06] brklynRednek, there's typically a need for >20 :) [02:07] alisonken1noc: there's typically no need for more than a 2 round burst if you're on target [02:07] bignorris (~user@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.123) joined ##slackware. [02:08] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-85-208.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. 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[04:11] Azeotrope (~JBauer@193.239.140.184) left irc: Changing host [04:11] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:16] Morn [04:16] godmode (~godmode@cpe-72-129-79-118.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:17] anyone heard of sun virtualbox? [04:17] indeed [04:18] I've come to prefer it over VMware [04:18] yup [04:18] awesome, application... man [04:18] ... though my first choice is KVM/qemu [04:18] godmode: yes, a lot of us use it [04:18] let me shut this down early. We've all heard of it, searly all of us use it and its the recommended virtualiser for slack. [04:18] it's a free opensource alternative to vmware [04:18] with the exception of qemu users.. [04:19] Zordrak: wha ?!? why not KVM/qemu for slack ? [04:19] Zordrak: ah ... OK then :) [04:19] yeh, choice is great =) [04:20] phragmatic: are you a bot in the service of phrag ? [04:20] since we are use it.. quick question? my mouse is stuck in virtual screen. i can't use it on actual host. anyway to escape of out this? [04:21] RTFM [04:21] (press right-ctrl) [04:22] already tried that, it didn't work.. so i RTFM! :) huh! [04:23] then use whatever your host key is [04:23] rk4n3: no, i am a human [04:23] maybe your shift key's stick [04:23] stuck* [04:23] godmode: you need to hit your host key.. i use windows key [04:23] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:23] phragmatic: ah, OK - no offense intended - it just seemed like an interesting nick choice :) [04:24] rk4n3: hehe, was a play on pragmatic from a discussion in here the other day.. it's my work client =) [04:24] i tried the host key. the shift key ctrl key atl key... every key on board.. lol [04:24] phragmatic: aha - clever :) [04:24] then its probably crashed [04:24] congrats [04:24] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:24] jkwood (~jkwood@2001:470:1f0e:d2::2) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:24] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [04:24] phragmatic: you're gay [04:25] yeh, kill it, or restart X [04:25] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [04:25] damn, i can't shutdown the virtualization in middle of update.. fk gay lord o'mighty [04:25] ##slackware: mode change '+o phragmatic' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [04:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842' by phragmatic!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [04:25] pragma_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [04:25] ##slackware: mode change '-o phragmatic' by phragmatic!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [04:26] fk fk fk... the laptop just went down too.. wtf is going on here. [04:26] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-85-208.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:32] phragmatic (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [04:32] phragmatic (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [04:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [04:32] bitlord_ (~bitlord@79.101.240.99) joined ##slackware. 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[04:43] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:43] Nick change: phrag_ -> phragmatic [04:43] phragmatic (~phrag@217.10.145.3) left irc: Changing host [04:43] phragmatic (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [04:43] /server -ssl irc.freenode.net 7000 [04:44] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [04:44] yeh i just knocked myself off posting that =P [04:44] godmode (godmode@cpe-72-129-79-118.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("FUCKING KERNEL PANIC!! F U"). [04:44] [04:44] phragmatic: dont you need a cert configged? [04:45] nope, i've never configured one [04:45] fnuff [04:45] whois phragmatic [04:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:45] i know you can though, and also use SASL which also works with irssi, but you need a script [04:45] fail [04:45] i is me [04:45] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Client Quit [04:46] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:46] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [04:46] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Client Quit [04:46] phragmatic: why i cannot connect using ssl if without cert configured [04:47] i have to get Gandi cert configured [04:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [04:48] Nick change: brklynRednek -> jewbacca [04:50] jhw (~jhw@194.64.6.1) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [04:50] godmode (~godmode@cpe-72-129-79-118.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:51] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [04:52] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-175-226.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:52] flity: afaik, you dont need cert.. read the faqw tho on freenode that was linked to you [04:53] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:53] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [04:56] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [04:58] credo (~cherchez@80.233.147.119) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:58] phragmatic: thanks, but i haven't found that piece of faq :-( [05:03] flity: Does freenode provide SSL-based client access? freenode supports SSL, for client and server connections. Users connecting via SSL will get user mode +Z to denote this. SSL connections can be made on ports 7000 and 7070. You can obtain the CA cert required from here. -- http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#sslaccess [05:03] i may have setup the cert before come to think of it, was awhile ago =P [05:04] phragmatic: ha! [05:04] is there an FAQ on reading FAQs [05:05] phragmatic: i know that faq, which i've posted just now :) [05:06] phragmatic: what i'm curious about is that connecting via ssl without the CA cert [05:06] phragmatic: as i was not able to connect until get CA cert configured [05:08] godmode (godmode@cpe-72-129-79-118.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("TO BE CONTINUE...."). [05:09] Hi I gotta little question, probably an easy answer too. [05:10] I'm running out of space on my hdd for my server, can I create symbolic links inside my www root to my external hdd so ppl can download the files currently present on my external? [05:10] or do I have to do something differently? [05:10] yes [05:11] or you could just move the www root to another device [05:12] hexdump_: Your nick reminds me of hexdump(1) ;) [05:13] Zordrak: i doubt the symbolic can be created if the hdd if *really* full [05:13] flity: it really easy not understand to you english when your broken so is [05:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:14] Mel-nix: yeah I figured it would go over well. [05:14] Zordak: u say move it, won't that mean altering tons of config files [05:15] well I have 7gb left [05:15] a 750gb hdd just setting there dying to be used. [05:16] hexdump_: no.. you just mount it into the same place in the root fs [05:16] or symlink the whole dir [05:16] i would prefer the former [05:16] Zordrak: oh, so sorry [05:16] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:16] Zordrak: you say move my root then? [05:16] well. yeah. [05:16] root www directory of course [05:17] well then will apache still know where it is? [05:17] is the external disk JUST for this or does it do other stuff too [05:17] and all of my password protected directories will have to change as well right? [05:17] NOTHING changes [05:17] hexdump_: umask 000 and cp -a [05:17] it's just going to be for additional storage for my webserver [05:18] jewbacca: i spit on your cp. rsync -av ftw [05:18] then do this: [05:18] Zordrak: is that all necessary when you're using a local system...a cp is more than sufficient [05:18] move /var/www to the external disk [05:18] then change the fstab for mounting the external disk [05:19] oh god I'm going to end up screwing something up [05:19] dude [05:19] dont move, copy [05:19] then you have no problem [05:19] sweet that's what I'm doing right now [05:20] ok so when it's done copying then u say rsync [05:20] mount /dev/newdisk /var/www [05:20] >.< [05:20] jewbacca: thanks for helping [05:20] Zordrak: and i spit on your rsync, it is too resource-heavy for such a simple task [05:21] ohnoez.. my precious cpu cycles.. i need ever one of themz [05:21] Zordrak: my drive is mounted. do I have to mount again or is that just for the directory [05:21] Zordrak: by the way my drive is FAT not ext4 [05:21] hexdump_: why? [05:21] Zordrak: windows/linux [05:21] so I can copy files from both [05:21] yeah.. im thinking go back to plan A [05:22] dont host the whole damn thing out of FAT [05:22] hexdump_: you really need to use a unix fs for a filesystem that is going to be doing something important and exposed...like serving pages to the web [05:22] so why can't I rsync now? [05:22] jhw (~jhw@194.64.6.1) joined ##slackware. [05:22] shat [05:22] Zordrak: yeah I'm thinking issues. alright I'll format ext4 [05:23] damn that means I have to stop all that copying [05:23] hexdump_: ^c is your friend [05:23] yeah did it [05:24] ok I'm going to follow the experts advice and do as told [05:24] hexdump_: i'm no expert [05:24] just a tinkerer [05:24] i hate this time of morning [05:24] everything is paid programming this, buy more bs that [05:24] man this sucks cfdisk can't see my external [05:25] imo rsync is a better choice [05:25] hexdump_: you have to issue the device name when cfdisk to more than just /dev/sda or /dev/hda [05:25] had to put it on fox news to stop listening to ads [05:25] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:25] so it would be something like cfdisk /dev/sda [05:25] ok [05:26] jewbacca: why [05:26] hexdump_: sd{b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z} [05:26] flity: why what? [05:27] yeah I'm trying to figure out what's what right now [05:27] trying to figure out my external drive [05:27] hexdump_: ls /dev/sd* [05:27] the highest letter should be your external [05:27] are here any body who use bluetooth in slackware 13 [05:27] hexdump_: sudo fdisk -l [05:28] flity: sudo is a dirty debianism [05:28] hmmmsudo [05:28] brb gimmie just a sec [05:28] hexdump_: stop with the complicatd [05:28] that's great I totally forgot about that [05:28] flity: and, for the most part, it doesn't work in slack until set up [05:29] Zordrak: welcome to monday morning at ##slackware. We hope you enjoy the show! [05:29] I used Linux filesystem [05:29] or better suggestions? [05:29] hexdump_: that works [05:29] ok coolness [05:29] pprkut: pff... ive been on the monday morning shift here for 4 years! ;) [05:30] can any body to help me about bluetooth [05:30] hexdump_: just mkfs.ext4 /dev/(whichever partition is it) and then mount it [05:30] YES!!! [05:31] Action: Zordrak punches the air [05:31] the quarterly backup JUST fit onto 3 tapes [05:31] Zordrak: cool [05:31] Zordrak: where do you work? [05:31] Zordrak: urrgh. tapes. [05:31] StevenR: Tapes in a robotic library == teh hotness [05:31] tapes wow [05:31] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [05:31] hexdump_: clarify `where` [05:32] Zordrak: u work for who where [05:32] here? [05:32] a company in Sheffield, England [05:32] Zordrak: that's near here! ish. [05:32] pff.. arent you in Bristawl? [05:32] Zordrak: robotic library==production system that most here have never worked with [05:33] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.74.228) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:33] andre_ (~andre@dslb-084-059-101-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Zordrak: hehe. :) [05:34] robotic library that totally reminded me of hackers [05:34] lol [05:34] haha, the TV station? [05:34] i want a couple of those robot arms =P [05:35] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Quit: :) [05:35] right, well my BLT drive on my computer just went AWOL, and I've got a big [05:35] project due tomorrow for Mr. Kawasaki [05:35] lol [05:35] lol [05:35] jeeze [05:35] BLT? thought that was a sammich [05:35] that just made my hungry [05:35] yeah thas the thing [05:36] dude have any of you seen this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcmmFQGxMNU [05:36] max. it's fake but people actually thought it was real. [05:36] .. [05:37] dude had like a chunk of the country believing it. [05:37] what is it? im not bothering to type the whole thing out to see if ive seen it [05:37] type it out? [05:37] i have a dedicated keyboard/screen/doc for IRC on tty2 [05:37] my work desktop is a separate box [05:38] oh [05:38] i could links -g on tty3 but i SO cant be arsed [05:38] man, u oughta check it out [05:38] but np not a big deal. the dude doesn't actually do it of course, but he does a helluva job with photoshop or whatever he uses. [05:39] hexdump_: not interested. 10 lines in and you cant be arsed to say what it is? You just want people following a link.. [05:40] oh my bad dude [05:40] Zordrak: sorry I was watchin, shit my bad [05:40] It's some dude who hacks a big screen in terminal [05:40] o [05:41] a train station terminal. it looks real and a lot of ppl believed it, but it's fake. you could see how people who know nothing about computers would think it's real. [05:41] Action: Zordrak is off to retrive the quarterly from th elibrary [05:41] hey [05:41] :> [05:41] hey [05:41] people who don't know much about computers can be made to look like cattle [05:41] ha ha [05:41] anione have a good howto for ati fglrx? [05:41] u mean microsoft users? [05:41] for slackware 13 [05:41] windows users rather [05:41] :> [05:42] iw as admiring a really cool looking datacenter the other day and was very dissapointed when i discovered it was an microsoft datacenter [05:42] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:43] hexdump_: looks like a mobile phone advert.. some shit samsung would think is funny [05:43] :S [05:43] hexdump_: was probably done with kdenlive [05:43] yeah [05:44] hexdump_: two feeds, one as a window inside the other [05:44] did you see the girl drops out because of ubuntu yet? [05:44] hexdump_: i don't watch youtube vids [05:44] it's a bigger waste of time than irc'ing [05:44] whaddaya watch when something gets u stressed and u need a break? [05:44] Action: jewbacca kneels before the irc gods to beg forgiveness for his blasphemy [05:45] hexdump_: bums at the south ferry [05:45] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.237) joined ##slackware. [05:45] lol [05:45] bums [05:45] gawd only fat bums in america [05:46] hexdump_: i watched one ask 5 guys in a row for a cigarette, got three, and smoked them all at once [05:46] my xorgsetup freezed [05:46] :( [05:47] jewbacca: he must not have had a cigarette in a while. [05:47] hexdump_: hardly [05:47] hexdump_: the same guy does this 15 hours a day, 7 days a week [05:48] gawd he must just be a nut job. [05:48] hexdump_: he works lower manhattan like a kirby salesman works 5th avenue [05:48] man I just checked my filesystem after I wrote linux to it and it's still showing up as FAT. gimmie just a sec brb [05:48] hexdump_: if he isn't on south ferry, he's in the lower east side [05:49] yeah, I love new york man. [05:49] and jersey, my aunt used to live in new jersey. [05:49] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:49] hexdump_: i can't *stand* jersey [05:49] been there like 3 times. [05:50] well I don't live there so I wouldn't know I guess. [05:50] didn't matter to me. [05:50] hexdump_: i was on my way on the southern long island parkway the other day and got stuck in a sea of green plates...worst 30 minutes of my week [05:50] just dirty as hell though. [05:50] s/green/yellow [05:51] city is full of smog, but I was suprised to find farms actually [05:51] hexdump_: which city? and how far out were the farms? [05:51] I dunno coming into to new york years back. [05:51] Now the first full is done... time to cross fingers and setup the incremental policies [05:52] military buddy (wouldn't call him buddy he was dick) lived somewhere north in the woods or something. [05:52] sounds like newburgh [05:52] or monsey [05:53] Action: jewbacca *hates* the attitudes down 287 [05:53] not sure exactly [05:55] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [05:55] writing inodes table 56/5590 [05:55] ... [05:58] jewbacca: thanks for the help btw [05:58] Zordrak: thanks again for helpin me out. [05:58] hexdump_: np [05:59] jewbacca: every new command or any tidbits I learn I jot down in a little notepad. gedit or kwrite or whatever. [05:59] It's been helping out [05:59] hexdump_: whatever works [05:59] hexdump_: a little wiki p.age might be a good idea for that [05:59] create my own u say [05:59] hexdump_: you got a copy of apache running, no? [06:00] yessum [06:00] putting a wiki on it is pretty painless [06:00] in fact.. wordpress is just as good an idea [06:00] btw, i'm a sir, not a madam [06:00] I could just add a tab to my site named wiki? [06:00] jewbacca: whaddya mean? [06:00] whether you let other peoplelook at it is your call.. but you can publish mini articles at least to yourself and then have a searchable index of tips [06:00] you said yessum [06:00] oh [06:00] yeah sorry [06:01] just messin around [06:01] wordpress installation is pretty braindead [06:01] the installer is damn good. online updates too [06:01] although i've seen women who looked like wookies, i've yet to see any of them worthy of note [06:01] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:02] lol [06:02] wookies [06:03] gawd this is taking forever to format [06:03] well, it is a 750gig [06:03] it's your fault for picking such an enormous drive 8-) [06:03] well be back a little later gtg work on site [06:03] DUDE. What are you wasting 750G on apache for?! [06:04] maybe he's got a large ... um, website? 8-) [06:04] Zordrak: who says I have to use the entire 750gig on apache? [06:04] >.< [06:05] maybe he hosts pictures and videos :-) [06:05] 10:17:15 < hexdump_> it's just going to be for additional storage for my webserver [06:06] well my bad I should have elaborated. [06:06] I doubt I'm going to use that much [06:06] the whole premise of how and what to do was based on the answer to that question [06:07] anyone can help me? my xorgsetup crashed on slackware 13 ati radeon kart [06:07] well... [06:07] andre_: and you're running xorgsetup why? [06:07] to config my xorg ;P X -configure crash auch [06:08] andre_: slackware 13 requires no xorg.conf [06:08] Zordrak: so what I need to do something else other than? [06:08] FOr *most* people. [06:08] jhw (~jhw@194.64.6.1) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:08] i have a xorg.conf :> [06:08] hexdump_: well.. i definitely wouldnt use the root of the drive as a mountpoint for /var/www in that case [06:09] at least id move the wroot down a directory and update the conf accodingly [06:09] andre_: If X isn't starting, we would need to see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file that is being generated. [06:09] andre_: lucky you [06:09] adamk: seems to be the -configure that crashes [06:09] well I did this mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb [06:09] ok thnx [06:10] Zordrak: that's all I've done thus far. [06:11] then mount it somewhere sane (/mnt/sdb1), copy /var/www to it so www is a subdir [06:11] mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb? not /dev/sdb1 or something? [06:11] then update your apache config to point to /mnt/sdb1/www or instead ln -sf /mnt/sdb1/www /var/www [06:12] well yeah sdb1 [06:12] sorry [06:12] but youll need to mwove your original out of the way: `mv /var/www{,.bak} [06:13] I'm not quite there yet tho, but I'm taking note of all this. [06:14] Zordrak: here is my site, if you want to see what it looks like or make any suggestions. http://black-box.kicks-ass.org [06:14] mkdir /mnt/sdb1; mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1; cp -av /var/www /mnt/sdb1/.; mv /var/www{,.bak}; ln -sf /mnt/sdb1/www /var/www [06:14] I guess it's my way of giving back [06:15] thats *it* [06:15] Zordrak: gee thanks [06:15] Zordrak: no it's not done yet [06:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:16] I got like 10gigs of ebooks/docs I'm going to put on there [06:16] I did say suggestions ya know [06:16] hexdump_: Are you frigging kidding me?! [06:16] hexdump_: Apache/2.2.12 (Ubuntu) [06:17] shaddup [06:17] that's on my crap pc [06:17] Zordrak: yeah I should have ran something else but now it's too late [06:17] Zordrak: what should I have run? [06:17] umm.. SLACKWARE?! [06:18] Zordrak: ya know I have been using linux less than a month [06:18] u do know that right? [06:18] You are in ##slackware. The Slackware support/discussion channel. [06:18] For users of Slackware. [06:18] yeah I have 3 computers [06:19] slackware/backtrack4 xubuntu ubuntu/windows7 [06:19] kill 2,3 [06:20] 11:19:16 [FreeNode] CTCP VERSION reply from hexdump_: xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu [06:20] I want slackboy doing version bans :( [06:20] wait this is really bad? [06:20] I shouldn't be in here if I don't have slackware on the same computer I'm using at the time? [06:20] Dude. Just because you HAVE a BMW it doesnt mean you can take your Ford Fiesta to the BMW dealer for servicing [06:21] lol slackware/backtrack4 [06:21] If you are on ubuntu, asking for help sorting out a webserver you are hosting on a ubuntu machine... [06:21] you need to be in #ubuntu [06:21] Zordrak: sorry didn't know everybody would get all teed off [06:21] as slava_dp said, you dont even HAVE a slackware machine [06:22] hexdump_: while some stuff crosses over, the instructions arent necessarily the same [06:22] well I listen and learn in several different channels [06:22] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:22] Zordrak: i don't have either. it's freebsd server in this case, but my desktop machine runs slackware ;) [06:23] it's not a ##slackware problem, maybe apache problem [06:23] and just wait till your three hours deep into someone giving their own time to support a problem and they are confused as hell because its not acting like its supposed to and then you tell them "by the way this is ubuntu, does that matter"..... i7f they could reach through the screen they would eviscerate you [06:24] nemysis (~nemysis@unaffiliated/nemysis) joined ##slackware. [06:24] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:24] well everything you have helped me with has worked perfect so far. [06:24] hexdump_: luck. [06:24] Zordrak: well man I'm sorry I didn't mean to cause any problems [06:24] but if it hadnt been working and i couldnt figure out why and wasted my time thinking about it I would have murdered you [06:25] cause these were general suggestions, they can be applicable to any distro. [06:25] nemysis (nemysis@unaffiliated/nemysis) left ##slackware ("I am off"). [06:25] Zordrak: I would have recognized something completely different. [06:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842 expired. [06:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:26] hexdump_: You wouldnt have recognised something subtle. And since the differences are mostly subtle.. that matters. [06:26] mounting filesystems, running apache moving copying files [06:26] Zordrak: see you're helping me right now. [06:26] running apache is different [06:26] msocorcim (~dennis@adsl-074-169-084-211.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:26] by big IS [06:27] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) joined ##slackware. [06:27] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:27] so I should just stick to one distro channel for now on? [06:28] I don't want to get into any kind of mess with ppl. [06:28] hexdump_: Go to the place designed to help with the issue you are having [06:28] guaxinim (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:28] hexdump_: by all means talk in here.. if you are talking about slackware (and that does not include backtrack) [06:29] Zordrak: I'm not going to be dumb and talk about a bunch of un related stuff. [06:29] hexdump_: so since you are dealing with apache on ubuntu, use #apache or #ubuntu for support dealing with it [06:29] then idle, dont talk [06:29] Action: Zordrak goes back to configuring the backup system [06:30] Zordrak: well despite the fact u don't like me in here since I'm using ubuntu, u and a bunch of others have helped me out big time today. [06:30] ienh (~ienh@silent.noctechant.net) joined ##slackware. [06:30] so thanks again, support in here is excellent. bye everyone. [06:30] s/have helped/have been duped into helping/ [06:31] Oh c'mon man really [06:31] Zordak: you helped somebody out that is what should be important. [06:31] that's like saying hey he is that color better go segregate there. [06:31] No-one got hurt this time. Fine. Good luck with your stuff. But take it as a lesson. [06:32] but I did take a lesson anyway and now I know better. rules are rules. [06:32] later all [06:32] hexdump_ (hexdump@cpe-24-209-18-153.cinci.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:34] Action: Delahunt prefers u-fu2 to ubuntu [06:35] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:36] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [06:39] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [06:39] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:41] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.40.91) joined ##slackware. [06:43] hey guys [06:43] hey [06:43] anyone know what the equivalent of the 'ca-certificates' package is for slack? [06:44] i installed krb5 which gave me the lib i was looking for, but seem to still be missing something [06:44] dirmngr stuff? [06:45] hmm, no this is for the 'lastpass' password storage binary [06:45] or you syaing dirmngr is the equivalent? [06:48] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [06:49] i was only guessing [06:49] usually one of my first install items is removepkg dirmngr because kmail/kontact gets caught up on the stupid thing [06:50] jrodger (~jrodger@220-244-204-235.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:50] phragmatic, like... this one? http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/i486/ca-certificates-20090814-noarch-1_rlw.tgz [06:51] Axius (~hi@92.85.215.93) joined ##slackware. [06:51] slava_dp: aha! you legend, thanks dude =) [06:52] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [06:52] phragmatic, any time :) [06:52] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [06:55] what is the cacerts pkg? default certs for random use or just the root cert for ca or what? [06:55] hello,is there anywhere where I can download the mutt package? [06:55] jrodger: its part of slack [06:56] I know but something is missingand my mirror has been shelacked for the last coupleof days [06:56] I just wanna reinstall it. [06:56] jrodger: use another mirro [06:57] all the aussie ones are not responding, is there not somewhere where I can quickly download it? [06:57] where is the sources.list again? [06:57] ... a non-aussie mirror. [06:59] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.83) left irc: Quit: velusip [07:00] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:00] d'oh, found it....thanks Zordrak [07:04] ftp.osuosl.org seems to be one of the fastest [07:05] Hmmm, does anyone else have the issue with Mutt and the smtp variables? [07:05] Nick change: off_tr4mp0__ -> Gr1nch [07:07] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:09] Action: Gr1nch Bom dia povo... [07:09] Gr1nch (gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left ##slackware. [07:12] slava_dp: well arent you the lucky one... [07:13] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-151-40-194.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:14] Axius (~hi@92.85.215.93) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:15] I reinstalled mutt and it still says the smtp variables are unknown (using smtp_url & smtp_pass) [07:15] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-236-243.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:15] Emeau-cat (~Emeau-cat@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:15] hexdump_ (~hexdump@cpe-24-209-18-153.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:16] hexdump_ (hexdump@cpe-24-209-18-153.cinci.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:17] ienh (~ienh@silent.noctechant.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:17] ienh (~ienh@silent.noctechant.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [07:19] can any body help me about bluetooth [07:20] Blue-Slacker: youve been told. [07:20] Blue-Slacker: if you have a problem, ask a question. otherwise dhie. [07:20] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:20] dont just hang around for wooks saying "can someone help" [07:21] Zordrak: OK , when i want to connect to my device i get this output how i can slove it ? [07:21] Zordrak: http://pastebin.com/Uc05BQ8v [07:22] you should also montion that the ouhpuh is specifically a failure when attempting an obex push to an ericsson mobile [07:23] Personally, i dont know whats wrong. [07:23] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:24] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:25] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [07:26] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-236-243.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:27] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [07:28] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] Blue-Slacker: why do you think there's problem? [07:30] didn't it showed, what you ask for? [07:30] agris_: becuase i can not coonect to my divice [07:31] well, in your pastbin, there is any error and everything is OK [07:31] agris_: OK [07:31] yes, you ask for folder list from device, and it shows you root folder because you haven't specified one [07:32] ok, it's in xml, still it's working correctly [07:32] how i can conecct now and transfer file [07:33] man obexftp -> search for 'Sending And Retrieving Files' section [07:33] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-144-194-228.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:33] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:34] agris_: i dont have /etc/bluetooth/main.conf http://pastebin.com/1bDxFZpn [07:35] just $ man obexftp [07:35] read manual [07:36] Zordrak, the lucky one? what do you mean? [07:37] Zordrak, oh, I see now. [07:38] hello [07:38] I want to unset the shell variable $http_proxy, I did unset $http_proxy, but it told me : bash: unset: `http://127.0.0.1:3128/': not a valid identifier [07:40] Leave the "$" off, Am1ne [07:41] alienBOB, thank you ! [07:44] jrodger (~jrodger@220-244-204-235.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:44] slava_dp: i hav the prob all over the place and so have many others.. dont know why you havnt [07:45] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-78-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:46] Zordrak: it's the law, yin and yan, black and white :D [07:46] Zordrak, I don't know why I haven't either. I use ssh from nat'ted networks all the time. [07:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:48] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:48] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [07:48] I'm on slack 13.0, 32bit, using firefox 3.5.2 (stock).. any reason why fullsizing youtube videos would crash/freeze firefox? [07:48] either hangs or shuts down without an error [07:49] it's called flash [07:49] instabiity of the flash player plugin or the video driver, probably the former [07:49] raela: maybe update flash? [07:49] raela: turn off hardware acceleration in the flash propeties box [07:49] that ought to do it [07:50] using flash 10.0 r42 [07:50] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jcnabwnlcvfnxvtu) joined ##slackware. [07:50] what Zordrak said ;) [07:50] Zordrak: where's the flash options? [07:50] er, properties [07:50] right click on flash video [07:50] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [07:51] right click on the flash object [07:51] er, it [07:52] 's not letting me change them. it pops up the camera part, but then won't let me click on any other tabs or close [07:52] uberfail [07:52] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:52] yeah. oh well. I never try to watch fullscreen, so I don't care. my brother happened to try and kept crashing it [07:53] raela: You do know there's a patches directory for updates to 13.0 such as a Firefox update. I'm not 100% certain a Firefox upgrade will address your issue. [07:54] gm152: I have never patched it, which could be part of the problem.. everything I do has been stable (no odd crashes).. honestly, I'll probably upgrade to 13.1 (whenever it comes out) before I'd get around to doing it [07:54] raela, yeah, do a full update, and a flash player upgrade also. [07:54] thank you, though [07:54] raela: ALWAYS upgrade /patches [07:54] maginot (~maginot@189.34.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:54] Ok. [07:54] its easy to do, so theres no excuse [07:54] I need to get out to the bus now.. just wanted to check in to see if the issue was a quick fix [07:55] man slackpkg [07:55] Zordrak: extreme laziness, which is why my computers tend to be stock + a version or two behind [07:56] raela: you can cron the damn thing [07:57] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:57] raela: a slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all are usually good to keep your system up to date [07:57] cron updates? thats a terrible idea [07:58] straterra++ [07:58] straterra, i suppose Zordrak isn't hearing you :) [07:58] he isnt [07:58] slava_dp: that would be a big 10-4 [07:58] doesnt make it any less terrible of a suggestion [07:59] unattended upgrades is a bad plan indeed [07:59] sahk0: indeed.. but better than no updates justh because youre too lazy to get off your ass and run them [07:59] not really [07:59] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-39-194.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:00] no updates tends to leave the machine stable, at least [08:00] sahk0: if something goes wrong it might prompt the sazy person to think.. maybe i should bother doing this manually [08:00] no updates tends to leave the machine stable, at least [08:00] argh [08:01] answered by my previous [08:01] sazy person, huh? :) [08:01] not really [08:01] i agree with both. ^yeah thats why the argh:) [08:01] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:01] giving bad advice so the user potentially breaks their machine isnt a good thing, regardless if it makes them think [08:02] alisonken1noc: im still not 100% on dvorak... subconcious takes over every hundredth keystroke or so [08:02] :) [08:02] morning straterra [08:02] morning [08:02] long time no caht [08:02] chat [08:03] (duh - talk about keyboards :) ) [08:03] alisonken1noc: whats YOUR excuse? ;) [08:03] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:03] the cat? :) [08:03] only 2 hours sleep yesterday? [08:03] not good enough... back on the rack you go.. [08:04] was up at 4am sunday morning, and only got about 2 hours around noon and 1/2 hour on lunch break [08:04] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:04] slava_dp, no cats, but I have an arthritic dog [08:04] i was up at 5am Sat AND Sun.... Australian GP :) [08:05] Naraku (supergear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:08] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-144-194-228.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:10] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:16] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:18] is off slackware.com? [08:18] ? [08:18] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [08:19] TO [08:19] apparantly slackware.com is down or something [08:19] can't reach it from here either [08:19] happens quite a lot [08:19] looks like it. [08:19] yeah - timed out here, but it's only been in the last 1/2 hour [08:20] had it a few times last week though [08:20] or the week before that, can't remember :P [08:20] *blames the beer* [08:20] Pat doesn't quite care about website availability :) [08:21] Stupid weeks. There should be 4 per month. No more, no less. [08:21] lol [08:22] Zordrak, right [08:25] and more weekends [08:27] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) joined ##slackware. [08:27] i dont usually mind it just totally screws up backup policies [08:27] Noryungi (RdBjnwdVNr@panix3.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Noryungi (RdBjnwdVNr@panix3.panix.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:30] love this people, "my netcard doesnt work" and then when I get there I sees they have manged to break the cable conector of from the card [08:30] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:32] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.198) joined ##slackware. [08:32] hey all [08:32] is there no x86_64 package for kernel-headers? [08:33] why? kernel headers are kernel headers, the only difference is what processor you compile for [08:33] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [08:33] they have the appropriate macro's for "if arch x86_64 ..." [08:34] ah... [08:34] thanks, alisonken1noc [08:34] guax (~guax@189.4.99.206) joined ##slackware. [08:34] guax (~guax@189.4.99.206) left irc: Changing host [08:34] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:34] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:34] there's a package for 64-bit, but it's essentially a noarch package (I don't know why it's called x86 or so) [08:34] trying to install virtualbox here and running into vboxdrv problem [08:35] do they have appropriate macros for "if arch y0ur_m0m"? [08:35] Had to move my monthlies/quarterlies to the first not the last friday in the month :( [08:35] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-175-226.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:36] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] i have a multitude of files of different formats (video, pdf, audio, picture) and I want to find out if there are two files alike (md5 maybe?). Also, there might be files with different checksums because they might be in 2 formats (eg. wedding2001.jpg and wedding2001.bmp) so I need them searched by name, too. Any idea how can I do that? [08:39] fslint? [08:39] fdupes? [08:40] as for whether images are the same regardless of format, that's doubtful [08:40] maybe if they were BMP and PNG, the outcome would be the same because they are both lossless [08:40] however, no, JPG versus BMP is going to be different no matter how you slice it [08:40] (because JPG is lossy and BMP is lossless) [08:40] he told you, he wants them by name :) [08:41] fdupes ought to [08:41] fdupes just finds duplicates [08:41] you could cut the extensions off with basename [08:41] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:41] mm, no you can't [08:41] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jcnabwnlcvfnxvtu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:43] Delahunt: not specifically for bitmaps, i just need an app that can show me files with same/simmilar names so I can weed them out. [08:44] if they only have 1 period, you could perhaps cut the extension with "cut" . basename won't work, since they could have a variety of extensions [08:45] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.199) joined ##slackware. [08:45] use installpkg as an example on how to split the names to take off extension [08:46] ext="file.tmp"; echo "${ext%%.*}" [08:46] file [08:46] I guess "uniq" doesn't have a counterpart ? that would be neat [08:46] on kde3 there was kleansweep [08:48] visof (~mediawhee@41.233.118.102) joined ##slackware. [08:48] hello [08:48] is there anyone tried slackware on Dell latitude D620 ? [08:49] those questions kinda suck, fwiw :> the actual laptop doesn't matter, but the components [08:49] appzer0 (~appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:49] And any number of the components can vary, even within the same model. [08:50] Am1ne (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:50] visof, go on and install :) [08:50] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:50] visof, if you run into problems, report them :) [08:51] Woo! Backup policies FINALLY configured. [08:51] ok [08:51] visof: slack and D series latitudes work beautifully together [08:52] i have got some probel with ubuntu , network wire and wireless have stopped suddenly [08:52] can anyone verify installation of ATi's closed source drivers on slackware64-current? [08:53] visof: you had better go to #ubuntu then... [08:53] so i want to move to another good distribution [08:53] visof: Oh i seeee [08:53] meaning, works ok? [08:53] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Am1ne (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [08:53] gtludwig: probably not since -current has such a new kernel... but i dont know [08:53] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/running-fglrx-current-796669/ [08:53] Supposedly it works. [08:53] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.199) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:53] visof: well then welcome [08:53] And there's a slackbuild, too, which is even better. [08:54] adamk: Plus (surprisingly) ATI have a --slackware option in their own installer [08:54] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:54] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vkbaveqwfjbcufuc) joined ##slackware. [08:54] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:55] Zordrak: That's not surprising... The package build scripts are maintained by folks in the community. [08:55] yup [08:56] And, more importantly, the 10.4 prerelease needed on -current is just a tarball with files, no installer. [08:56] adamk, are you LQ's adamk75 ? [08:56] Not that it would make me ever buy another one :) [08:56] Yes. [08:57] we have chatted there, I've the same nickname there [08:57] Yeah, you sounded familiar. [08:57] Mind you, I haven't tested the slackbuild since I'm still on 13.0 [08:58] yeah! no problem [09:00] um ok so i have an old pentium-m laptop with Intel D865GM video [09:00] update to 2.6.33.1 and you have no video display after switching to intel's drm framebuffer [09:00] how do it disable this feature? remove it from the kernel? [09:00] blacklist it? [09:01] Action: Delahunt tried blacklisting inteldrmfb once before, it did not work [09:01] tltstc` (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Delahunt, on -current, the intel driver for X.org depends on the drm framebuffer. you have no choice. [09:02] this is 13.0 but i get your point [09:02] so what kernel version do i switch "back" to if the drm fb gives me problems? 2.6.32.x ? [09:03] the driver in 13.0 does not depend on drm, so you can disable it. [09:03] ok, blacklist? [09:03] i915.modeset=0 [09:03] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.198) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:03] ah thanks [09:03] kernel command line [09:03] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:04] is there a way on other machines for whom inteldrmfb works fine but they don't like the very high resolution, is there an equivalent kernel setting for vga=normal in LILO? [09:05] i.e. on the other machines it works in Xorg fine but i don't want tiny text in the shell [09:05] video=640x480 [09:05] thanks [09:08] keith1 (~Administr@64.208.182.130) joined ##slackware. [09:08] hmm lilo says "only linear boot device supported" [09:09] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:09] thanks, the video= option worked wonderfully [09:09] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.198) joined ##slackware. [09:10] would be nice if fb wasnt so impossibly slow to render at high res [09:10] i didn't find it laggy, just annoyingly tiny [09:12] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:13] MoZes_ (3355@connie.slackware.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:13] keith1 (Administr@64.208.182.130) left ##slackware. [09:13] Am1ne (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:14] MoZes (3355@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [09:14] what does "only linear boot device supported" error message from LILO mean? [09:16] Am1ne (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [09:17] adamk, either I'm not doing it right or it really don't work =) had a no go here! [09:17] nick4 (~fffeop@79.103.38.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[09:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:25] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.198) joined ##slackware. [09:29] adamk, here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ZbJnacK4 [09:29] I want to use scp to download files from a remote server !! how it works ? [09:30] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:31] gtludwig: What's not with the version mentioned in that slackbuilds README, is it? [09:32] adamk, nope, I haven't used the slackbuild - and that didn't worked here either when I tried last week [09:32] gar0t0 (69@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Well it's definitely not going to work without that version. [09:33] So if you want help getting it working, try that slackbuild again and pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. [09:33] hmm, will try again, then [09:34] thanks for your trouble so far :D [09:35] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:37] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:37] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [09:38] Reaver2 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:39] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) left irc: Changing host [09:39] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:42] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-145.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:42] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [09:45] if you had to use a rpm or deb package ( source not available ) what would you choose ? [09:45] id use the rpm [09:45] k [09:45] hello everyone :) [09:46] paissad: plus... if NECESSARY.. slack has rpm and will take it as a pure rpm install (--nodeps) [09:46] Zordrak, i think i will create a tgz from the rpm (SB) [09:47] rpm2tgz or rpm2targz should be useful i think [09:47] if you want to... but if you're not actually repackaging it for slackware and making slackware-defaults alterations to it, its prolly not worth the effort [09:48] Zordrak, i won't modify anything from the rpm actually ... i just thought that was a proper way .. [09:48] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.198) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:48] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-248-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:49] its a grey area.. but if youre not modifying it in any way... let slackware do what it does best and just take what youve got [09:50] i haven't personally used it for this purpose, but src2pkg is supposed to "convert" rpm to tgz [09:50] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-107-166.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:50] trhodes: that would be rpm2tgz [09:51] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.198) joined ##slackware. [09:51] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] jareth__ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:52] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:52] adamk, here's the pastebin for the Xorg.0.log using driver version specified on the slackbuild [09:52] http://pastebin.com/5Je7BZ4D [09:54] Sounds like the kernel module never got compiled. [09:54] What is the output of 'modinfo fglrx' ? [09:55] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:55] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.237) joined ##slackware. [09:55] appzer0 (~appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:56] odd, it seems it has been compiled properly... [09:56] here's the output http://pastebin.com/juZefE8c [09:57] Alright, well the module exists. . So it's likely not getting loaded. [09:57] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Is the 'radeon' module loaded? [09:58] Zordrak, you have a laggy intel fb? [09:58] nope [09:58] guys, the rpm i want to build is for i386 $arch .... do you think that may work in my system ? [09:58] gtludwig: What happens if you do 'modprobe fglrx' (as root or with sudo, of course). [09:58] i use slack64 [09:59] brb [09:59] FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.33/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Invalid module format [10:00] Reaver2 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:00] gtludwig: Pastebin your dmesg. I'll check it in a few minutes. [10:00] Oh wait.. [10:00] SOmething comes to mind... [10:00] Some folks reported problems related to video dribvers and PREEMPT in -current, iirc. [10:01] But that was specific to radeon, so it might be a different issue. [10:02] well, I seem to recall it complaining something about PREEMPT... [10:03] paissad, only with 32 bit compat libs [10:04] :/ [10:04] is complicated to install 3 bit compat libs ? [10:04] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:04] is it* [10:05] paissad: are you running slackware64? [10:05] yep [10:05] Read my multilib wiki article and you'll know [10:05] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [10:06] adamk, here it is http://pastebin.com/tSLB3Ryt [10:09] hackerline (2032@friedman-vm3.mtlb.ivoltaire.org) joined ##slackware. [10:09] hello [10:10] DareDevil01 (~Secret@173.171.218.44) joined ##slackware. [10:14] hullo [10:14] gtludwig: Does 'lsmod | grep drm' show anything? [10:14] adamk, nope [10:15] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [10:17] gtludwig: I can't confirm that this will work, but I know folks have has to use specific kernel configs when it comes to the radeon driver: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/radeon-kms-works-760963/page9.html#post3884359 [10:17] It's possible that you need the same PREEMPT settings for fglrx in -current. [10:18] You could followup on the thread that contains the slackbuild, though, since I know folks have gotten it working: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/running-fglrx-current-796669/ [10:18] yeah, thanks =) [10:19] Sorry I couldn't be more help. [10:22] you were great help, thanks and sorry to bother :D [10:23] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.3) joined ##slackware. [10:26] slava_dp: no.. just when you use 1600x1200 fb, any scrolling output is worthless [10:26] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Zordrak, it's not part of slack, but src2pkg really does do its own rpm to tgz conversion [10:28] incognitus (neam@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:28] Zordrak, the point of my question, is I had a kms scroll speed problem, due to incorrect mtrr's reported by the board. got it fixed by passing two kernel options. [10:28] gtludwig: If it were a bother, I wouldn't have tried to help :-) [10:29] slava_dp: itsl always been the same for me on all the cards ive used.. the higher the fb res the worse the scrolling [10:29] what options did you pass? [10:29] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. 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[11:58] Is buying an lower-than-average computer, 2gb RAM, mainboard, dualcore cpu, fastest ethernet card, 4x2TB hdd and a smaller hdd (40 gb) for the linux os, a good idea for a lowcost datacenter? [11:59] DareDevil01 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:59] depends on your requirements and what you are going to ask of it [11:59] fiyawerx (~fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] 4x2TB HDD suggests some rather extreme use [12:01] which may not be suited to a cheap chassis, esp given DC cooling reqs [12:01] etc [12:03] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-80-240.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[12:21] I'm here [12:21] for just a minute [12:21] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Emeau-cat (~Emeau-cat@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:22] bignorris (~user@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) [12:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:24] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [12:29] 2Tb is not 5400rpm? [12:31] hi i am having a problem with my soundcard i can only hear sound when i use headphone [12:31] but not without the headphone [12:31] how do i sync the time? [12:31] i have a laptop Inspiron 1545 [12:32] fiyawerx (~fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:32] shouldn't it switch automatically to daylight saving? [12:32] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:32] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:32] and my lspci shows 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [12:33] it does if you set you timezone correctly. [12:33] if you dual boot windows all bets are off. [12:34] Azeotrope, run timeconfig [12:35] lots of online docs on setting up sound in linux [12:36] mancha: but seems to be a problem because i hear the sound when i plug speakers in the headphone but not whithout it [12:37] lots of online docs on setting up sound in linux [12:37] DareDevil0: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA [12:37] it disabled my compositing. i had a notify saying something about ctrl alt f12 [12:37] said compositing was too slow or something [12:37] XGizzmo: i will check it [12:38] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [12:38] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [12:38] DareDevil0: To sum it up check your mixer settings. [12:38] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:40] DareDevil012 (~Secret@173.171.218.44) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:40] any avid audacity users here? [12:41] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:42] fiyawerx (~fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] I've used it, but I'd hardly say I'm an avoid user. [12:43] ah ok, looking for an avid user ;) [12:44] every time i pop in #audacity it is totally dead [12:45] Heh.. "avoid user" [12:45] STupid fingers. [12:45] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:46] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [12:47] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [12:47] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:47] http://rjlpranks.com/pranks/avoid/ [12:48] avoid is windows only :P [12:48] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-85-208.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:51] How can I see the total upload speed in a terminal? [12:52] iptraf might help some [12:53] if you have another host to listen on (with enough bandwidth), you could also do a dd to it [12:53] pipe dd to netcat or a /dev/tcp/host/port [12:54] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:54] curl likely does it, too [12:55] Mick_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:56] mancha: I have recently become an "avid audacity user" :) [12:56] mancha: I'm into multi-track studio recording, and I've finally been able to use audacity for most of my "transport" needs (I use out-board hardware for effects and such) [12:57] mancha: yay - no more Windows for me in the studio :) [12:57] nice [12:57] rk4n3 nice! :) [12:58] grats rk4n3, i'm working towards that goal too :D [12:58] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:59] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:59] kslen: the trick is to not get addicted to the fancy stuff in Cubase or SVT ... I was using CoolEdit pro for very basic multi-track record/playback for just that reason: keeping it simple [13:00] kslen: makes transition to something like audacity very easy ... now that I have support for my hardware and basic multi-track record/playback on Linux, I can grow with whatever audacity (and other linux solutions) provide ... its a great feeling :) [13:01] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.116) joined ##slackware. [13:02] rk4n3, i bet. and yea, i stepped right into that trap unfortunately. when i started recording, linux was something far from my mind. :/ [13:02] rk4n3, perhaps i'll make note of your nickname and nag for advice every now and then ;) [13:03] kslen: understood ... [13:03] kslen: sure, feel free :) [13:03] \o/ [13:03] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [13:03] i gotta get started on some chow now tho. soo hungreh! laters :> [13:04] rk4n3, looked at ardour btw? [13:04] tarzxvf (~pascal@150.162.14.244) joined ##slackware. [13:04] I did about a year ago ... had alot of trouble building it and then it didn't seem very stable [13:05] rk4n3, barely started it up and poked around for a short moment. looks promising. i just needs to get my e-mu card up and running to actually test it :D [13:05] tarzxvf (pascal@150.162.14.244) left ##slackware. [13:05] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:05] ah, k. i had a look at it in ubuntu studio while exploring what all the noise was about. haven't had the pleasure to compile it yet. :D [13:05] kslen: yeah, it definitely looks promising, when they get the kinks worked out - I got excited when I tried audacity a month or so ago and found it so usable, so I haven't tried recent versions or ardour yet [13:06] rk4n3, i use audacity for post production work on windoze actually [13:06] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:06] kslen: yeah, that's kinda cool that its cross-platform [13:06] wavelab used to be my main tool for those things, but audacity does the job as well if not better [13:06] psypete (~realname@2002:616b:8409::1) joined ##slackware. [13:07] me luvs the cross platform apps [13:07] haven't completely shed my microsoft scales yet [13:07] but i'm getting there [13:07] have either of you had issues with audacity and recent ffmpeg? i segfault on imports [13:08] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:08] why is the slackware version number a 2012 joke? [13:08] mancha, nopes :< [13:08] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [13:08] psypete, hm? [13:08] psypete, lucky number 13? *shrugs* :D [13:08] pwillis@bobdobbs ~/Desktop/Packages/ :( cat /etc/slackware-version [13:08] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [13:09] http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html#anchor-long-count-start [13:09] arrh. before i forget again. food. bbl [13:09] hah [13:09] didn't notice that before [13:10] heheh, n1 [13:10] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-85-208.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [13:16] Steaki (~steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:17] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-85-208.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:19] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:19] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Nick change: oxiredo_ro -> bau_bau [13:20] bau_bau (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Client Quit [13:20] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:20] r_linux_ (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:21] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [13:21] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [13:23] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [13:24] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0C661.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:39] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [13:42] ya0: already found slackware-es? :) [13:43] Nick change: off_tr4mp0 -> Gr1nch [13:43] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:43] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:44] InTel_GB (~intel@79.100.239.127) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:44] InTel_GB (~intel@79.100.239.127) joined ##slackware. [13:47] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [13:48] surrounder: I am sure he's sort of trolling anyway. [13:48] ah ok [13:49] ya0 (~Yuri@79.15.148.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [13:52] InTel_GB (~intel@79.100.239.127) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:54] Necos (1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:55] why are the users of slackware migrating to arch [13:55] or something like that [13:55] i wondered that myself [13:55] I know nothing about espanol, I speak french, that's it [13:55] Camarade_Tux: yeah. or switching to. [13:55] Apparently you speak Enligh too. [13:55] hey BP{k}, can i bother ya wtih some wicd questions? [13:56] keashery (~keashery@117.136.12.68) joined ##slackware. [13:56] http://www.coredumb.net/code/slackbuilds/chromium/ << if someone is interested in compiling Chromium, here's a SlackBuild [13:56] Camarade_Tux: for someone who just confessed to just speaking French... ^^ yeah what adamk_ said ;) [13:56] google translate says "someone could answer me: because slackware users are turning to arch???" \o/ [13:56] >.> [13:56] adamk_: nope, I can't speak english ;-) [13:56] google translate sux0r [13:57] worse part is that I'm doing a better job at translating than google translate even though I know nothing about it [13:57] Necos: Ask away in channel, I need to step out in a bit to take the dog for her constitutional ;) [13:57] my wireless card (intel 2200) isn't showing up in the wicd NM window [13:58] Camarade_Tux: so there are some slackware french uses :D [13:58] actually there's a #slackware-fr channel too ;-) [13:58] if someone can please tell me: why are slackware users switching to arch [13:58] they are ? since when ? [13:58] Necos, be sure the interface is correct in the preferences. My intel card always defaults to eth1 or something silly in wicd [13:58] we dont speak that proper spanish in LA [13:59] more of a ghetto mexican slang [13:59] Necos: and does it show up with lspci or any of the other tools? [13:59] esseee... [13:59] oh durp... thrice`, on the money [13:59] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:59] Camarade_Tux: i used to avoid french channels [13:59] :D [14:00] i totally forgot to enter eth1 for the wireless interface [14:00] msocorcim (~dennis@adsl-074-169-084-211.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:00] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Tusk: ah, I see, french-speaking part of switzerland? [14:01] (be back in 30 minutes) [14:02] i'm actually french :) [14:02] msocorcim (~dennis@adsl-074-169-084-211.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] keashery (~keashery@117.136.12.68) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:03] Necos, :) [14:03] kitche_ (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Tusk: hehe :P [14:04] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:04] yeah, it was a brainfart :) [14:05] Nick change: kitche_ -> kitche2 [14:05] kitche2 (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Changing host [14:05] kitche2 (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [14:05] echtts (~echtts@201-27-185-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [14:06] thrice`: you can change that if you want [14:06] I know, this is why I recommended it ;) [14:07] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-253-227.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:07] :) [14:08] zmisc (~zmisc@pdpc/supporter/student/zmisc) joined ##slackware. [14:08] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Ping timeout: 624 seconds [14:08] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:09] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [14:09] how can i make mplayer play a file from a fifo file? [14:09] "from a fifo" [14:09] man mplayer for how to play stdin, then redirect [14:10] however, without meta-information, it is never going to know how to play it [14:12] hmmm, strange... it connects, validates, but doesn't get an ip... [14:12] zmisc (zmisc@pdpc/supporter/student/zmisc) left ##slackware. [14:13] oxiredo_ro: iirc, it's just like a regular file [14:14] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:14] oh, you give it the information it needs right from the command line [14:15] i (ab)used mplayer like that to play network audio [14:15] The-Croupier (~ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:16] when i was using wpa_supplicant, i was getting connection just fine >.> [14:17] how about mplayer -input thing ? [14:17] http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/donations.html [14:17] can i use that? [14:17] mplayer -input is just for controlling it [14:17] and yes, it's easy [14:17] just give -input a fifo, and then echo commands to it to try it out [14:18] but not for read an input file (mp3)? [14:18] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-145.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:18] no [14:18] the input file is mandatory [14:18] k [14:18] tnx [14:18] yw [14:18] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:19] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Client Quit [14:20] Trashlord (~Sid@unaffiliated/trashlord) joined ##slackware. [14:21] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vkbaveqwfjbcufuc) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:23] why would one want auth enabled? i tried google...but in.inetd :( what is that for ;) [14:24] flity_ (~foolity@123.121.2.35) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] IRC uses it to get your user name, for one [14:26] ohhh i see..:( [14:26] ill try to disable it see what happens [14:27] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-80-240.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:27] flity (~foolity@123.121.4.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:28] Nick change: Gr1nch -> Gr1nch[0ut] [14:29] Skynet will detect the change and send Arrrrrny to get you [14:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:33] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.3) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [14:33] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:33] how nice is that ;) [14:33] :p [14:39] psypete (realname@2002:616b:8409::1) left ##slackware. [14:39] JosephK (Light@98.sub-75-227-66.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] HIya all [14:39] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Got a question.. Is there any way to prevent someone from logging into a slackware box in singler user mode WITHOUT having the root password?? [14:40] I don't want that password recover shit to work [14:40] You mean, if they're at the machine in person? [14:40] is there a way to get the external ip of the system? from comman dline or something? i tried google....but i get ubuntu stuff...:( [14:40] Yup [14:40] eviljames that's what I mean [14:41] The-Croupier, /sbin/ip a #shows all your interface addresses [14:41] JosephK: This may not be the answer you're looking for, but physical access to the machine pretty much negates most security. [14:41] Yeah I know that... [14:41] But I want to mitigate even that [14:41] can you log into single user mode without a root password ? [14:41] Is there a way that anyone knows of?? [14:42] nick4_ (~fffeop@79.103.38.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:42] JosephK: With 15 minutes alone with your system, I can easily go around any password. (hint: rescue CD img on a usb stick, vim /etc/shadow, /etc/passwd) [14:42] As far as I know, single user mode root login requires no password at the console [14:42] encrypted volumes is about the only way I know of to deal with someone having physical access [14:42] hrmmmm [14:42] I thought there was some handy-dandy way to prevent all that... [14:43] i don't think you can limit privileges when someone has the machine [14:43] heh, lock your doors :P [14:43] Perhaps I will have to live with the limitation... [14:43] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E2C8D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Thanks all [14:43] JosephK (Light@98.sub-75-227-66.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Ciao [14:43] put a password on lilo [14:43] o well [14:43] d'oh [14:43] not sure what he wanted / had in mind... [14:44] Just to mitigate the threat potential of someone standing at the hardware it seemed. [14:44] eh, ok [14:44] but as you suggested, crypto might have scratched his itch. [14:44] eviljames said 15 minutes alone with the system, it'll take me 5 and by the time you get back me and your system will be smoking cigs and looking at they sky [14:44] it's an all or nothing deal when it comes to physical access :/ [14:44] xsamurai: Typically you don't want your victim to know they've been compromised. Amateur ;) [14:45] lol [14:45] yeah [14:45] eviljames: haha, nah I like to leave them with something to remember me by [14:46] xsamurai: I think that's how Mitnick was caught :P [14:46] he left pubic hair on the systems ? [14:46] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-31-60.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:48] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: class [14:49] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-39-194.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] gar0t0 (69@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: RAH [14:50] gar0t0 (69@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [14:51] eviljames: it takes you 15 minutes to get into a machine you have physical access too? :o [14:51] you're using floppy disks to boot? [14:52] he uses strong passwords [14:53] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] lol [14:53] Oh look, another person jumping on the length of my time estimate. [14:53] Camarade_Tux, he's missing 9 fingers. [14:54] Everybody get their measuring tapes out, it's a penii competition! [14:54] Camarade_Tux: he uses his tongue to type [14:54] he types his passwords with his nose [14:54] xsamurai: considering the fluids left on many keyboards, I think not. [14:54] mancha: ^ [14:54] spiraliz (~spiraliz@90.149.153.177) joined ##slackware. [14:54] tongue, nose hmmm... whats next jeev ? [14:54] hehe [14:55] nipples ? [14:55] l33t nipple hacking [14:55] I love it when I return to this group and the first thing I see is "nipples". [14:55] Alan_Hicks: hahaha, we try [14:55] eviljames: it takes 10 minutes to recover passwords from windows, 15 minutes to remove/change the password is really too long ;-) [14:56] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad26f8.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:57] you're using floppy disks to boot? << yeah old style way [14:57] every try nipple-to-nipple action on the thinkpad keyboards? [14:57] *ever try [14:57] haha, i was just thinkin of that [14:57] :) [14:57] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:57] sick minds think alike? [14:58] S290310 (~S290310@80.10.46.32) joined ##slackware. [14:58] If you were a real geek you would know that on thinkpads they are not called nipples. [14:58] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [14:58] clits [14:58] Bugz__ (~Bugz_@75.42.83.116) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:58] i miss my thinkpad [14:58] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-83-116.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] t42 was the best [14:58] Clits is correct. [14:58] Hello [14:59] actually I could imagine straterra did that :P [14:59] hi S290310 [14:59] the word clit offends my 21st century progressive politically correct mantra [14:59] hello camarade_tux ! (fredoslack) [15:00] i would respectfully request we use "twat" henceforth [15:00] davi` (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:01] mancha: twat does not work. It might perhaps work for those trayless CD-ROMs, but not for the clit mouse. [15:01] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Client Quit [15:01] nice ambiguity with the past tense of "tweet" however [15:01] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [15:02] trhodes: Ambiguity? Everyone knows the past tense of tweet is twatted. [15:02] S290310: bonjour! [15:02] exactly ;) [15:02] um, /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-twat.fdi [15:02] Alan_Hicks: Everyone knows the past tense of tweet is RETARDED [15:02] ftfy [15:03] eviljames: fuckin' smart-ass liberal. [15:03] Nick change: S290310 -> fredoslack-fr [15:04] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-78-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] fredoslack-fr (~S290310@80.10.46.32) left irc: Quit: used WLIrc [15:06] Alan_Hicks: Every time I am called a Liberal I am reminded of homer simpson flipping channels, alternatively happy about ice cream or something and raging about liberals... despite having no idea what the term means. [15:06] Alan_Hicks: Of course, I don't attribute such a characteristic to you - as you are the rare conservative with prowess enough to debate a mastermind such as I. [15:07] eviljames: you're Canadian ? [15:07] xsamurai: oui, monsieur. [15:07] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:08] explained [15:08] when is canada getting annexed? [15:08] haha [15:09] once our debt materializes into a physical mass of poop and spills over into Canada [15:09] does lol [15:09] does wicd have a log file? [15:09] yarly [15:09] ahhh, here's the ticket: http://www.misanthropytoday.com/homer-simpson-i-hate-liberals-video/ [15:10] mancha: hah, never. [15:10] Necos, i'll bet $100 you didn't even check /var/log before asking that [15:10] durp, manpage... [15:10] That's 2 Necos. one more and you're +q [15:10] ;) [15:10] hahahaha [15:10] lazy fucking Necos [15:11] bleh... at least i'm asking... [15:11] "at least" ? what's worse than that? [15:11] he could try to convince us it doesn't have a log file [15:11] i'm actually attempting to solve the problem as opposed to saying "it doesn't work" :P [15:12] haha [15:12] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [15:12] Necos: i wouldnt argue my way out of this one [15:13] oh no, alan hicks talking bad about liberals [15:13] by my count fire|bird should be serving 634 back-to-back life sentences with no chance for parole [15:13] lol [15:13] hahahah absolutely. [15:13] And that's just for his crimes against humanity. [15:13] We won't get into his issues with open source software [15:13] john_dee (~id@93-81-140-86.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:13] eviljames: I haz issues? [15:14] good thing fire|bird can't kill me :P [15:14] hmmmm. it doesn't show in the log whether or not authentication was successful... [15:15] if you haz intarwebs, it was successful [15:16] i don't, i'm using a wired connection [15:16] is that like a tar-pit net? [15:16] something that kills dinosaurs and connections? [15:17] iirc wicd has different levels of debug-output [15:17] make it moar better debugging [15:18] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] shemp (~shemp@66.226.201.54) joined ##slackware. [15:19] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:19] hmmm, wierd, in manpage for wicd, there's mention of manpages for the conf files, but i can't find 'em [15:20] spiraliz (~spiraliz@90.149.153.177) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:20] I have problem with ACPI hot keys on my Think Pad T21 [15:21] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:21] for unknown reason since yesterday it stops to work [15:21] ?? [15:21] after press hot key nothing happens [15:22] "man wicd-manager-settings.conf" no joy? [15:22] ? [15:22] ?? [15:22] ! [15:23] wicd-manager-settings.conf ? [15:23] what is this [15:23] ah, needed to prefix it with wicd- [15:23] mac, what happened to your thinkpad yesterday ? [15:23] stopped thinking [15:23] thanks mancha :) [15:23] I`ve turn it to suspend as usual [15:23] np Necos [15:24] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:24] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) joined ##slackware. [15:24] after woke up acpi stop to work [15:25] hmmm, odd that the APs here at work are set to not broadcast the SSID, but wicd found them just fine... [15:25] now I have to use pm-suspend [15:25] hot key not work, lid not work [15:26] when looking to acpid.log it does not capture hot keys [15:26] acpid is running ? [15:26] yep [15:27] maginot (~maginot@189.4.98.232) joined ##slackware. [15:27] 32475 ? 00:00:00 acpid [15:27] dtzWill (~will@unaffiliated/dtzwill) joined ##slackware. [15:27] I`ve restarted it with -HUP [15:27] nothing changed [15:28] didn't realize wicd would disconnect my wired connection to try to enable the wireless... oops! [15:29] yeah, wicd is annoying when using multiple connections like that :/ [15:29] there might be a way of working around that, but I don't bother [15:29] Necos, when i need that i stop the daemon and use ifconfig route [15:30] you all use wicd 1.7? [15:30] yeah [15:31] yep [15:31] strange, nothing in the manager-settings.conf that enables higher debug output [15:31] yee [15:32] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:32] isn't it a checkmark or summit on the gui? [15:32] i already have debug mode enabled [15:32] let me try something... brb [15:32] oh, thats's what i was thinking about then [15:32] has anyone seen thunderbird hang on -current, in FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE? [15:35] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [15:36] eviljames: I feel the same about you. :^) [15:37] bah it's firefox too :( [15:37] dtzWill explain the problem [15:39] firefox/thunderbird fail to start, strace shows they hang on a call to futex.. indefinitely (so far waited 15 minutes or so) [15:39] Alan_Hicks: Howdy :) [15:39] 32 bit? [15:39] gar0t0: Howdy! [15:39] mancha: yes [15:40] futex to what? [15:41] it's probably a sqlite problem [15:41] dtzWill try forcing the libc libs: LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libc.so.6 firefox [15:42] the debugging output is quite interesting [15:42] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [15:43] mancha: i would try that, but other debugging seems to have fixed it. removing libsafe fixed it [15:43] mancha: tyvm for helping [15:43] yes, this was my concern, i wondered if you had libsafe, so i made you force the glibc libs [15:44] mancha: makes sense, good call. [15:44] system call intercepting is a problem with the mozilla prebuilts [15:46] hmmm, is there a way to simulate middle-click on a touchpad? [15:46] Alan_Hicks: About my crimes against humanity? [15:46] Alan_Hicks: or raging at hyperbolic images of what Conservatives presently are? :P [15:46] eviljames: No, about your "mastermind debate" thing. [15:47] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Vbl1AZ29.html [15:49] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/uQTVe124.html [15:50] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:52] i wonder why it's timing out thought, as i have a windows box connected to the same AP right now [15:52] *though (damn ssh lag) [15:52] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-144-194-228.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E2C8D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:54] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:55] gazj (~gary@78.149.9.112) joined ##slackware. [15:56] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-140-171.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-140-171.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Changing host [16:01] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:05] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:06] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [16:07] Nick change: Gr1nch[0ut] -> Gr1nch [16:11] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.151) joined ##slackware. [16:14] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) joined ##slackware. [16:14] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host217-42-253-227.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:15] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:15] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-116-13-60.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:16] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:17] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [16:19] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:21] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:23] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Afternoon. [16:25] just out of curiousity dtzWill what other 'debugging' fixed it [16:25] aah crap i'm an hour 2 late it seems [16:28] pera (~bri@186.136.171.241) joined ##slackware. [16:29] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] pera (~bri@186.136.171.241) left irc: Client Quit [16:31] l [16:32] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grep/2010-03/msg00568.html :) [16:33] lets see how long it will take to find a serious bug in this one [16:39] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) joined ##slackware. [16:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:44] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:46] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) left irc: Quit: Changing server [16:53] for an incomplete prefix of a multibyte char [16:54] ... what is a prefix in grep ? [16:54] aah wait the man suggests i have used it before [16:54] probably has something to do with character encoding [16:55] unicode sucks :D [16:55] WTF8 ? 8-) [16:55] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:55] hehehhee [16:56] i think they mean when you mark files [16:56] Action: Delahunt was only guessing: he has no clue [16:57] or it's more probable when you use -H or wildcards and have unicode files [16:57] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.44.18) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:58] now that my old pentium-m has slackware 13 on it, i have no clue what to do with it [16:58] ... use it :D [16:58] give it away [16:58] well yeah i know that, but what for? [16:58] Action: Delahunt ponders [16:58] I would say porn-streaming website but I'm under the impression you won't agree [16:58] laptop ? [16:58] your impression is correct [16:59] yes laptop [16:59] does it have wireless [16:59] yes [16:59] ipw2200 [16:59] Delahunt: ='( [16:59] set it up as a router when you need to steal wireless :D [16:59] nah [16:59] Action: Delahunt has japanese fiber optic. think 3MB/sec kernel downloads [17:00] music player ? [17:00] bleh i would need better speakers [17:00] you're in japan ? [17:00] yes [17:00] live there ? [17:00] yes [17:00] ACPI starts to work after system reboot [17:00] usaf stationed here for 4 years [17:00] i thought so [17:00] He went there to pick up som sushi. [17:00] i get 2.2 MB/s over VDSL here [17:00] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [17:00] you probably heard me say it before [17:01] I very do not like do that ... Linux starts to work as Windows - if you have such problem, try to restart system :/ [17:01] yes do you do maintenance of planes ? [17:01] here there's no quoted speed, they only list the maximum capable (which for fiber is insane) [17:01] like in IT Crowd ... 'Have you tried to turn of and on it again' ? [17:01] yes i am avionics, i work on F-16s [17:01] mac-: "You do know how a button works, don't you?!" [17:01] previously some f117's ? [17:01] ehh [17:01] yep, you've been paying attention 8-) [17:01] i love that plane :D [17:02] yeah it's retired [17:02] have a book about the its first missions and its squadrons [17:02] desert storm [17:02] yeah i know that's probably why we talked about it :D [17:02] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:03] yeah i remember that night as a kid watching the iraqis spray bullets into the air trying to hit this unseen enemy [17:03] isn't the f18 hornet also a money drain when it comes to administration ? [17:03] that's a navy jet, i don't know [17:03] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.151) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:04] i'm very sad also to see production of the raptor dissappear [17:04] Nick change: Gr1nch -> off_tr4mp0 [17:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431890.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:04] but enough about that since i could go on and on about that :D [17:06] amanda1 (~amanda@c213-100-205-25.swipnet.se) joined ##slackware. [17:06] http://www.mdhjakten.se/dela/?id=dti2d6s [17:06] for all y aslckers [17:06] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [17:08] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:13] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.29.234) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:13] amanda1: what's that about ? [17:13] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.29.234) joined ##slackware. [17:15] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:15] is advertising allowed here ? [17:15] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) joined ##slackware. [17:16] first message is an obscure link; smells like spam [17:17] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:17] yeah it is [17:17] it's a link to a university in sweden [17:17] but its for a unif [17:17] rwerken (~rob@82-169-213-233.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:19] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:20] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) joined ##slackware. [17:20] i would ban him [17:20] the unif only has 2 links where there is mention of slackware and it's an old ftp server list [17:20] 1995* [17:21] a list like all of us had before the search engines became good [17:23] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:24] Hm, you guys have any tips on storage backup? D: [17:24] riza, like what kind of tips? [17:25] starbrze (~dani@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] starbrze (~dani@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:26] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:27] gar0t0 (69@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:27] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [17:28] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [17:29] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:33] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [17:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi9HLCpAYYg&feature=player_embedded [17:33] amanda1 (amanda@c213-100-205-25.swipnet.se) left ##slackware. [17:34] riza: yes, here it is: you should really do backups. [17:34] glorb (~glorb@brln-4d0c5389.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] r_linux_ (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: ... [17:35] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad26f8.async.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:35] how can I check which user send event by ACPI ? [17:35] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:35] i.e. how can I determine which user wish to lock screen ? [17:36] lol [17:36] :o [17:36] I wish to lock screen by xlock when user press hot key on laptop [17:36] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [17:36] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] but have to know which user has done it [17:37] fingerprint the user [17:37] no no no [17:37] not personally which user [17:37] but which system user [17:38] :> [17:38] making sense... [17:38] I dont care if it is Merry, Ann or Paul, I care that it is psmith [17:38] i.e. [17:38] which user account [17:38] no matter who working on it in real :) [17:39] hotkey events arent glued to user accounts [17:39] dl [17:39] i love u [17:39] wrong window :P [17:39] dont add the users you dont want to to the power group [17:39] too late now! [17:40] I know that hotkeys are not glue to user accounts [17:40] how are you going to wire the hot key to xlock? [17:41] thats why I need to get information who pressed hot key [17:41] by acpid [17:41] event in acpid [17:41] action=su - USER -c "xlock ..." [17:42] maybe glue something together with keyboardmapping the hotkey to something userspecific ... incron might come in handy [17:42] and now the key to solve this problem is to know this USER who pressed this hotkey [17:42] MrHales (~MrHales@12.166.25.238) joined ##slackware. [17:43] tricky. not foolproof. on the top of my head. strange plaything you got going there, mac- ... but good luck [17:43] Action: jg71 goes back into the shadows [17:43] ok, how to get a working prolog on my computer ? [17:43] :/ [17:43] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:43] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:46] What in Slackware-current changes so that a module (nvidia legacy SBo build) that loads in Slackware 13 no longer has the correct format? I did not upgrade any kernel packages nor anything from the d series (in case I needed to build anything for the stock kernel later). The fail cascades down from i2c-core.ko (invalid module format) to agpgart.ko (same) to the fatal nvidia.ko error (same again). [17:46] When fully -current, I could not get the nvidia module to build. [17:47] Neither with SBo script or by executing the .run file [17:47] if you upgrade the kernel you need to blacklist the nouveau module to prevent it from loading [17:47] Does the nouveau module being loaded prevent building the nvidia module being built? [17:48] ... without the unintentional redundancy of that question.. [17:49] which nvidia version? [17:49] 173.14.22 [17:50] mac-: figure out what's the first program or script run by your X login manager in the name of the logged-in user (Xsession?). tweak that program [17:50] tltstc` (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: tltstc` [17:51] MrHales: Is there some more debugging info that comes with the invalid format? [17:51] mac-: it should stash the information where you can find it. maybe even the login manager can do that for you [17:51] hm, good advice [17:51] MrHales: I got stung by this exact issue hard on the last slackware64-current update, my "workaround" was to compile new kernel/modules based on the sources provided. [17:51] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:52] I wish there was. When it builds, it seems to do fine, but won't load. When I've gone fully -current, the nvidia build script complains about sources not being installed, which they are. [17:52] but, what in situation when I have several X sessions simulatenously? [17:52] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:53] I have to check all key codes send to system together with its owners [17:53] adapt xlock itself to require some sort of user interaction. like "click this/press enter" then and only then you have enough user info [17:54] if user run xlock by himself case is clear [17:54] i.e. by xterm [17:54] in that situation I do not need any more information about user, because he run xlock by himself and as hisself [17:54] but [17:54] when trying do that by acpi [17:54] the but is the prob [17:55] MrHales: Check the build log for nvidia, a few important files have changed where they are housed as of 2.6.33 - this problem is also exhibeted by VirtualBox kernel module. [17:55] mac-: what makes you think that key codes sent by an input device have "owners" [17:55] brb-smoke [17:55] acpi always run everythoing as root [17:55] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-31-60.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:56] precisely [17:56] system have to know who sends key codes from keyboard to make sure which process have to get them [17:56] um...no [17:56] mac-: i don't get it. how do you have multiple users logged in simult, when there's only one hot key? [17:56] system does know - root did [17:57] glorb: I mean several X sessions, but only one work at once [17:57] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:00] mac-: so you switch sessions with ctrl-alt-Fn ? [18:00] something like that [18:00] ...still owned by the same user [18:01] for true multisession you need multi-consoles [18:01] now working user is i.e. mac, but after hour they switch, and foo willwork [18:01] but X sessions are exist together [18:02] then query whatever it is that runs those sessions [18:02] well.. I'll be back after bringing system fully -current, disabling nouveau and attempting to rebuild nvidia. [18:02] Thanks all. [18:02] MrHales (~MrHales@12.166.25.238) left irc: Quit: http://wwandi.com -- Still not ready for prime time. [18:05] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-63-131-54-26.pit.onecommunications.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] rwerken (rob@82-169-213-233.ip.telfort.nl) left ##slackware. [18:09] The-Croupier (ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [18:11] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [18:12] paul424: www.swi-prolog.org ? 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[18:55] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:58] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:58] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:59] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:59] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [19:00] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:00] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [19:00] I tried to remove most my SBO packages to clear up space, and it said something like there was no disk space so it could not flush or sort the files... then it did not list the files that were supposed to be removed. [19:01] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:01] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:01] um..how are you removing them ? [19:01] removepkg [19:01] other than rm -rf /tmp/SBo/ [19:01] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [19:02] um, that uninstalls them, it does not remove packages [19:02] I was talking about installed packages [19:02] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) joined ##slackware. [19:02] you made your partition too small ? [19:02] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:02] dchmelik: it may helpt to clearout /var/cache/sbopkg [19:03] ok, but is removepkg not supposed to say what files it is removing? [19:03] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:04] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [19:04] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:05] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:06] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] lnxdog (~lnxdog@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] I see that it is supposed to do that... so how do I know if it removed the entries for the packages but not their files? [19:09] qt-x (~c1e206e2@gateway/web/freenode/x-cmasvcaenmcrdeez) joined ##slackware. [19:10] Does anybody know why K3b won't burn anything bigger than 2.5G? [19:10] burn on what ? [19:12] mpegs [19:12] dvd burner [19:12] Nick change: werdan7_ -> werdan7 [19:13] it seems to be an iso error but I didn't really want it to be an ISO so something is weird maybe I should look in the configs for something [19:15] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.33) joined ##slackware. [19:18] the ISO filesystem handles files up to 2GB in size. [19:18] UDF does as well [19:18] Chrysalis (~UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. [19:18] so no, there is no way to store a 4GB file on a DVD [19:18] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:18] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [19:19] HellDragon_ (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:20] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:20] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [19:20] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:21] adaptr, I am trying to burn a video that is 2.5 gigs, but for some reason it will only default to an ISO. I want to burn it as something I can play from the DVD do you have any idea why it is doing that? [19:22] you need to create a DVD video, then. [19:22] also known as "authoring" a DVD [19:22] copying files will not do it [19:22] and yes, DVD video must be UDF [19:22] there's undoubtedly an option in k3b [19:22] Is that the only way? I know I used to until I changed to the latest version of slackware just used to be able to burn mpegs [19:23] if you want to play video from a DVD, then yes, you need to make a DVD-video [19:23] OK cool I will try that [19:23] this has not changed in 10 years [19:24] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] Something is different maybe the version of k3b [19:24] I used to drop and drag my video into dvd burn and that isn't working now it is trying to create it as an iso [19:25] I have made 3 Sony coasters hehe [19:27] It won't make a DVD out of a mgeg-2 [19:28] I am not sure why I can't burn a mpeg to a dvd but maybe I will look for some other software. [19:29] you can also use the previous k3b version made for kde3. its in the extra/kde3-compat dir [19:29] Thanks I will try that [19:29] I am not sure why I am having so many problems this used to be really easy [19:30] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [19:30] probably cause k3b in 13.0 is incomplete [19:30] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-14-145.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-144-194-228.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] Oh that might explain something [19:30] Do I need to remove the new one before I add the old one? [19:30] k3b has many optional "deps" [19:31] not really deps, but you can unlock more features the more programs you can install. [19:31] Cann0n, do you recommend different software? [19:31] i avoid k3b. then again, i only burn data and music. media players is where it's ot. [19:31] s/ot/at [19:32] no, they can be installed alongside. k3b from extra installs in /opt [19:32] sahk0: that's what i mean. optional [19:32] cool [19:32] i dont see the relation [19:33] i use xfburn, but then again, i don't burn movies. only music and data [19:33] sahk0: it's listed in k3b, whats enabled and whats not from what you have installed. it checks for it iirc. [19:34] and hows that related to anything i said? [19:35] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [19:35] sahk0: it's not. i'm just stating facts about k3b as to why a possible feature is missing. [19:35] I burn the occasional DVD when I need to install an OS [19:35] j ##slackware-offtopic [19:36] sahk0: maybe i missed the first half of waht you said. [19:37] anyway, not important. maybe you were reffering to the 'incomplete' part but thats not what i meant. i meant that it was a devel release not even alpha iirc [19:37] s/was/is [19:37] winter (~winter@97-83-229-2.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Crap the old one won't start something about libkparts.so.2 [19:38] Maybe I should just look for something entirely different [19:38] ah. pre-alpha... /me backs away slowly. [19:38] Nick change: winter -> Guest49916 [19:39] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:39] lnxdog: i would expect it needs other stuff from the same dir as well. at least qt3 and kdelibs3.. [19:40] Oh ok [19:41] stupid thing to remove ssl-solibs, and install new package and then reboot , before checking that new package actual worked [19:41] why reboot? [19:43] had a ./rc.sshd stop in the bash history I manged to fire off also so I losed conection :) [19:43] was blind typing on the keyboard on that box [19:43] Guest49916 (~winter@97-83-229-2.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:44] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:48] i'm having an issue building gst-python from slackbuilds [19:48] i get a whole bunch of "Could not write method" errors [19:50] I have a question does the slackware package manager checks for dependencies? [19:50] no [19:51] uhhmm well at least that lets you to have more control of the things we have in the computer [19:53] DareDevil0: you can invest in slapt-get, which can allow you to have some sort of dependency handling... but it's not "the thing to do" in our humble community. [19:53] s/invest/invest time/ [19:53] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.40.91) left irc: Quit: Elvis has left the building [19:53] i generally just install all the available packages. unlike ubuntu or fedora, slackware does not have tens of thousands of packages in it's repository [19:54] full install of all packages takes like 5GB i think. does that sound right? [19:54] yep [19:54] lnxdog (~lnxdog@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:54] well then we have to compile a lot if we need a software most of the times? [19:55] amazon10x: i think i had issuse with gst-python as well. i beleive i ended up just finding a packace from slacky.eu. it's been a while so... [19:55] you can check salix or gsb's repos for a package too [19:55] DareDevil0: yep. but us slackers lack it. slackware doesn't walk you across the road. we like bolting out without looking in rush hour traffic [19:56] Trashlord (~Sid@unaffiliated/trashlord) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2-dev [19:56] s/lack/like/ [19:56] Cann0n: i think those may have been warnings. i removed the "set -e" thing that causes issues with bash4 and it made a package [19:57] hmmm. are you on a multilib systemL [19:57] no [19:57] i needed the package for exaile, which starts now. seems to work fine [19:57] uuhhmm if i did not install all the packages from the begining of the installation i can do it right no? [20:00] you can use the install dvd/cds as a local repo. it's always an option to install off the cd later. just explore the cd. read the documents. anything on the cd with .txz or .tgz is a slackware package [20:00] Cann0n: and if i want to use the actual repos from ftp? [20:01] you can, but if you have the cd with all the same stuff from the slackware repo, why not just use that? [20:01] i mean, downloading takes longer than copying from your dvd drive [20:01] in most cases [20:02] yeah but i don't know maybe the repos are up to the date i gues? [20:03] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] Chrysalis (~UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:03] this isn't ubuntu. if you want cutting edge, check out upgrading to -current [20:03] Nick change: hackedhead_ -> hackedhead [20:03] you can always update things on your own as well [20:03] check out slackbuilds.org [20:04] uuhmmm i will check i guess people who comes from ubuntu always have that kind of problem when they come into the real linux [20:04] once you get experienced enough to work your own build scripts [20:04] winter_ (~winter@97-83-229-2.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[20:21] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*amanda@*.swipnet.se' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:21] DareDevil012 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:21] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [20:26] DareDevil01 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:30] DareDevil012 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:32] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [20:33] How can i access my /sbin/ and /bin/ from everywhere? [20:34] add it to your path [20:34] yeap well i will ask it again, how can i handle my paths, which is the file? [20:35] use "su -" not just plain "su" and they will be in your path. [20:36] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:36] anyway i want to use it when i dont use sudo [20:36] stat1c (~stat1c@24.229.194.61.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] most everything in /sbin can only be ran as root. [20:37] i guess not [20:37] ifconfig in sbin annoys me [20:37] raph0x88_ (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) joined ##slackware. [20:38] DareDevil0: create ~/.profile and add a line like this: export PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:. [20:38] ./bin should already be in path, i think [20:39] Razec (1000@187-27-250-136.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:39] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] i will check [20:40] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:41] i don't have a .profile file created [20:41] in my home [20:41] i have to create it my self? [20:41] did you read what I typed? [20:41] yes i do [20:41] maybe i did not understand well [20:41] sorry [20:42] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:43] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:44] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:44] ok done i created the file with the PATH [20:44] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-14-145.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:47] so, no one knows if removepkg might not work when the disk is full? [20:47] dchmelik: I wouldn't doubt that it would have a problem but the root reserve should cover that [20:48] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.173.96) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:49] good [20:50] dchmelik: IIRC, it does work. [20:50] I've filled up / on the lappy a few times [20:50] if not, then nuke source builds in /t,p [20:51] i still wonder why it does not show a list of the files it removes in that case [20:51] */tmp [20:51] no idea [20:51] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [20:51] and/or the kernel source [20:51] what does this number translate to: 8.625e-10? [20:51] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:52] .0000000008625 [20:52] gm152: thanks. how do I put that in terms of something times 10 to the power something [20:53] ... [20:53] :D [20:53] homework troll is fail [20:53] sorry, I am very bad at numbers [20:53] Or is that e as in exponential? [20:53] gm152: thats what my calculator spit out. I don't know how to write it in text [20:53] that's e as in "not enough screen space so I'm going to show it to you in powers of 10" [20:54] haha [20:54] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:54] yes :D [20:54] so e-10 is 10 zeros? [20:54] note the -, that tells you it is behind the . [20:55] they don't even teach kids how to use calculators now. wtf [20:56] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.47.103) joined ##slackware. [20:56] antiwire: I recently got back to school. I have forgotten most of highschool math [20:56] :D [20:56] trying to catch up [20:57] you should take the placement tests then. They will get you where you need to start [20:58] and don't cheat yourself on placement tests... [20:58] DareDevil01 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:58] I really should. [20:59] is 400 million = 4 x 10^7? [20:59] No, 8. [20:59] Where the 7 is. [21:00] One million is 10^6. [21:00] hmmmm [21:00] DareDevil0 (~linux@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:01] is this 400 million? 400,000,000? [21:01] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-63-131-54-26.pit.onecommunications.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:01] Yes. [21:01] k [21:02] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [21:03] There's many people in the #math channel for assistance. [21:05] DareDevil01 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:05] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-144-194-228.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: ¬ [21:08] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:08] thanks gm152 I will bookmark that. [21:09] e can also mean exponential .. e to the power of 1 is 2.718 for example. [21:16] and e^[i pi] = -1 [21:16] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [21:16] Hey folks, read this please. [21:16] http://pastebin.com/KDK447TP [21:18] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-144-194-228.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] is the my book connected via firewire? [21:19] nitefly (~jesstess@DR-WILY.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:20] DareDevil0 (~Unknown@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:21] No, usb. [21:22] Folks in ##hardware say no, but they haven't offered a solution. Some folks in ##socialites and others are confused since they have never seen such, or at least the ppl I'm talking to haven't seen such variation in spacae. [21:22] If it's okay to paste this (I will not do this again). [21:22] combining them would be a VERY VERY bad idea [21:22] given the size differences the only option would be raid 0 [21:22] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:23] ##socialites folks say to do raid1, I am very reluctant to do raid of any sort. [21:24] How can i save alsamixer setting? [21:24] i mean everytime i restart i have setup the sound [21:24] alsactl store [21:26] well, lots of options. you could keep them as independent filesystems and use cron+rsync to cleverly manage backing up your most crucial data. any combination of raid could be dangerous. [21:27] trhodes, thanks [21:28] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:28] tosqueirameu (~psychar4@189001130029.usr.predialnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:28] hello... [21:29] Yepp. [21:30] Razec (1000@187-27-250-136.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:31] do you know how to activate the touch in the touchpad of a laptop? [21:31] (i`m using slackware 13 64bits) [21:31] synclient? [21:31] whats that? [21:31] man synclient [21:31] oh.. lol [21:32] nice! thanks! [21:32] no prob [21:32] you`re so smart! [21:34] tosqueirameu, eviljames and the other regulars are really good. :) [21:35] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:39] i`m loving this version of slackware! thank you all for that! [21:40] I confess that I was a little bit upset with this "anakonady" shit of KDE 4 [21:40] but now I`m on XFCE and it`s great =) [21:40] (Also because I have only 1Gb of ram and KDE seems to be using a lot of ram... [21:40] but it`s cute anyway =) [21:41] tosqueirameu, use fluxbox. [21:41] Though I will admit KDE has a lot of eye candy. [21:41] Richlv, yeah.. [21:41] ops [21:42] riza, yeah =) [21:42] But I heard that the only difference of 64 bits would make would be if you have more than 4gb of RAM... [21:42] Is this correct? [21:43] Yes. [21:43] oh [21:43] but if my processor is 64bits would it be bad to run a 32 bits system? [21:44] (mine is an AMD Turion 64 X2) [21:45] Hm. [21:45] If it's backward compatible, sure go for it. [21:45] But 64 isn't anything special right now. [21:45] Useless for everyday consumer use. [21:46] just another markeitng shit [21:46] marketing* [21:46] Yes. [21:46] :-( [21:46] It's very nice for server though. [21:46] hm, for sure... [21:46] I wish I had more than 4gb... :-P [21:47] No point really. [21:47] Apps would have to be programmed to use that much. [21:47] hm, really? [21:47] Yes. [21:47] wouldn`t I be able to run more apps? [21:47] You would be that's moot point. [21:47] Since you wouldn't run more than you normally would if you had increased capacity. [21:48] imagine virtualbox, openoffice, music players, KDE, windows VISTA + windows 7!!1 [21:48] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:48] wow, that would require 100gb of ram! [21:48] That's why it thrashes the hard drive. [21:48] hahaha [21:48] lol [21:48] Yep. [21:48] riza, witch WM do you use? [21:48] and how much ram do you have? [21:49] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] Whatever KDE comes with atm. [21:49] I use 3gb. [21:49] wow [21:49] lucky man [21:49] or girl, i don`t know =-P [21:50] until now I was using debian and ubuntu... but they were pissing me off!!! [21:50] lol [21:50] Why lucky? [21:50] Debian is good. I've never used it but I hear nothing but good stuff about em'. [21:50] Ubuntu on the other hand was made for new folks. [21:50] now I got this new laptop and installed slackware again (before debian I was using slack 9, 10 and 11) [21:50] I`m so happier now!!!! [21:51] I really love this system, it`s so simple & stable! [21:51] yeah, ubuntu is very popular in my university [21:51] http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m316/GuttermouthSIN/Good_Luck_Im_Behind_7_Proxies.jpg HAHAHAHAHA [21:51] lol [21:51] 7 proxies. [21:51] A bit overkill methinks. [21:52] that`s so nerdy hahaha [21:52] The connection has to be incredibly slow to do anything real. [21:52] I want it for a t-shirt =P [21:52] you mean fast, right? [21:52] lol [21:53] Yeah like I mean really fast. [21:59] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:59] Nick change: raph0x88_ -> raph0x88 [21:59] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.198.84) left irc: Changing host [21:59] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [22:01] qt-x (~c1e206e2@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhzewinasdrourzo) joined ##slackware. [22:02] how can I know what config file Xfree is using? [22:02] You folks think creating a bigger swap drive would help? [22:02] I cant find it in the logs... [22:02] riza, would help what? [22:02] Thinking of expanding my 4gb swap drive to 10gb. [22:04] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-azojuzwedkyvmdcf) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:04] wow [22:04] wario (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-dnhiqkvrgxilvelx) joined ##slackware. [22:04] I don`t like when it starts using the swap [22:04] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:06] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [22:07] Hm you know, I think it uses the swap all the time. [22:07] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.233.41) joined ##slackware. [22:07] i think it uses the swap when the ram is full... [22:08] riza: how much ram do you have? [22:08] 3gb. [22:08] i doubt you actually need or would use 10gb worth of swap [22:08] tosqueirameu, that is correct. [22:08] zaltekk, good point. [22:08] Speaking of that. [22:08] Would you mind taking a look at: http://pastebin.com/KDK447TP [22:08] ? [22:09] the general rule of thumb would place you at about 4G of swap though, not 3 [22:09] err, sorry. 6G, not 4 [22:09] typed the wrong numbers [22:09] I'm running 2GB of ram and no swap, but it depends on your usage and load. [22:09] lol riza http://encyclopediadramatica.com/7_Proxies [22:09] zaltekk, is right, generally, no more than double your ram. [22:10] riza: i would not try to run a game off of an external harddrive [22:10] Link23 (~Lol@157.3.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Hm okay., [22:10] riza, yupp. That's probably your largest bottleneck unless your using e-sata [22:10] riza: also, you could use LVM2 to abstract the different drives into one pool of storage. then it doesn't matter "where" you put things [22:10] I am going to use the external hard drive for music, yeah? [22:10] right, an esata setup would be different [22:10] Doesn't seem like a bad idea for something I use everyday. [22:11] What do you guys think? Music for 300gb. [22:11] riza: which of those drives are not internal? [22:11] The 300gb is not internal. [22:11] riza, music on external storage is fine. [22:11] Hell, I stream music over NFS [22:11] Hm.. all 300gb might.. seem overkill, no? [22:12] is if you have 2.8+ TB of internal storage, why would you use the 300 GB external at all? [22:12] riza, depends on your collection [22:12] What do you mean depends on my collection? [22:12] Is there any good guide to improve thunar [22:12] riza, depends on how much music you have backed up [22:12] About 100gb. :| [22:12] for example how to associate files with different applications [22:12] Than 300 is a bit overkill. How much internal storage do you have? [22:13] ron1n: he has 2.8TB of internal storage. [22:13] The first three hard drives are internal. [22:13] That's what I thought. [22:13] 600, 900, 1.4tb. [22:13] riza: again, i'd use LVM2 on the internal harddrives [22:13] Three separate drives. [22:13] Focus on storing all of your important documents and data on your external drive, and stash it somewhere safe. [22:13] Hm.. not sure I am comfortable with the idea of LVM2. [22:13] That's what I would do at least. [22:14] Hm.. [22:14] My setup is fairly similar: 2TB internal 500GB external [22:14] That might not be such a bad idea but my important docs, etc, are only about 10gb. [22:14] Then back up other stuff in order of importance. [22:15] True but.. [22:15] Hm.. [22:15] For instance, my 500GB consists of my Music, movies, anime, TV and video game backups. I keep it stashed in my sock drawer. [22:15] for when the men in black suites show up to take me. [22:15] 500gb is so little... [22:15] lol [22:16] Don't tell me you are going to outrun MiB. [22:16] :| [22:16] Those folks are physically fit and mentally strong. [22:16] It was originally 2 500GB drives, but the other one recently failed =/ [22:16] How did it fail? HOw did you know it failed? [22:16] i recently added a 500GB internal drive to my laptop, and i use that for my media storage [22:16] and keep my operating systems on the original internal drive [22:17] riza, low moaning like beep came from the hard drive inside. It suffered a physical crash. [22:17] I keep my media on an external drive, so I can take it with me if anything where to happen. [22:17] And so it doesn't incriminate me. [22:17] What if you're deaf? How could a deaf person find out? [22:18] They would probably go nuts trouble shooting. [22:18] lol [22:18] :| [22:18] was there no smoke? [22:18] <--- is deaf. [22:18] But they again, if it didn't beep, how would a deaf person know when a hard drive crashed at all? [22:18] smoke is always fun when it comes to electronics [22:18] zaltekk, no smoke. [22:18] i love the smell of melting PCB's in the morning. [22:19] just like the smell of drying ketamine [22:19] dieing hard disks usually click like crazy or the bearings will make it hum loudly [22:19] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:19] there is a database somewhere online of what dieing hard disks sound like sorted by make and model [22:19] google made it. [22:19] for example how to associate files with different applications [22:19] wow [22:21] http://www.datacent.com/hard_drive_sounds.php <--- said database for the curious. [22:22] ron1n: i find it funny that a data recovery company hosts those sound clips [22:23] zaltekk, its only a little ironic :) [22:23] ron1n: that even have a form on that same page to get a price quote...lol [22:23] Chrysalis (~UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:24] haha yupp [22:24] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:24] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-20-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:24] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] the mechanical nature of these devices makes a lot of these sounds pretty interesting. [22:24] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [22:25] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:25] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-52.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:25] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:25] Is there any guide to improve the xfce [22:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:32] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] rworkman, ping [22:34] DareDevil01 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:34] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Quit: [yop] [22:36] mancha, do you know any good guide to customize thunar and xfce [22:36] i mean i can't open compressed [22:36] files [22:36] i don't know how to associate files with their programs [22:37] when i am using thunar [22:37] DareDevil0: try reading the documentation for xfce and/or thunar [22:37] i don't know how to set file associations with that software off the top of my head [22:38] DareDevil01 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] Does anyone here use truecrypt? [22:38] Is it possible to resize truecrypt partitions? [22:38] riza, i don't believe it is [22:38] zaltekk, when you want to read a pdf file what do you do in order to open it? [22:38] riza: i'd check their forums. i believe there is an extensive wealth of knowledge there [22:38] from thunar? [22:39] Hm... [22:39] DareDevil0: i don't use thunar. [22:39] I won't risk it hten. [22:39] zaltekk, what do you use in xfce which is a good file manager? [22:39] nautilus? [22:39] DareDevil0: i don't use xfce [22:39] Daredevil, you didn't try too hard [22:40] in tunar, right click on what you want to open, pick "use another application" pick the application and click "remember" [22:40] lol... [22:40] riza, best bet, make another container the size you want, mount both and copy from smaller to bigger, remove smaller [22:42] mancha: pong [22:42] Yep. [22:42] Thanks. [22:43] mancha, what about compresed files? [22:44] DareDevil0: you would do the same thing, and select an appropriate program [22:44] rwork, you're a cutting edge whore, do you use gtk+ 2.18.8? [22:44] yeah but i think the software is not installed in this case [22:44] gtk+2-2.18.9-x86_64-1_rlw [22:45] i didn't fuck your firefox? [22:45] *it didnt [22:45] I didn't see you. [22:45] ;-) [22:45] But no. :) [22:45] are you sure? [22:46] Yes. [22:46] did you ever have 2.18.8? [22:46] Thanks a lot folks. [22:46] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [22:46] me too! thanks a lot! [22:46] tosqueirameu (~psychar4@189001130029.usr.predialnet.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:46] mancha: nope: /var/log/removed_packages/gtk+2-2.18.7-x86_64-2-upgraded-2010-03-20,01:20:45 [22:47] 2.18.9 came out the day after 2.18.8 iirc, so maybe that's why :) [22:47] lucky bastar [22:47] i think they musta fixed the shit ima feeling in 2.8.28 [22:47] er 2.18.8 [22:47] dissociative (~alejandro@adsl190-28-177-228.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:48] Maybe that's it. Worth a shot anyway [22:48] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:48] I am searching for something like a leet hosting service [22:49] dissociative: that isn't very descriptive. [22:49] ok, off to compile. what luck, i dl'd just eh day between 2.18.8 and 2.18.9, who'd have thunk [22:49] rwork, indeed i see the commit that joves with the backtrace i did of my firefox [22:50] I mean http,ftp and that [22:50] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:50] dissociative: chainhost.com is a VPS provider run by a friend of mine [22:51] the most 1337 hosting solution is to setup your own serveer but I have trouble keeping my server running full 24h all days [22:51] chainhost has a Slackware 12.2 image that I personally set up :) [22:52] I get it! Chainhoist! [22:52] Get this: http://crazycrackerz.com/how-to-make-a-girl-show-her-boobs-on-chatroulette/ [22:52] tsk tsk [22:52] those girls look underage man [22:53] hahaha [22:53] I just linked it - I didn't endorse it :) [22:53] It's a good idea regardless. [22:53] www.ubunti [22:53] saveit for the parole hearing [22:54] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:55] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:55] slackin (~slackin@183.153.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:55] jewbacca? [22:56] rworkman, i got a way to get the rest of the american public (better known as the feces) interested in health care reform. tell them terrorists are against good health care for people [22:56] they'll jump right on it! [22:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:57] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:58] You know that would depend on how we define this "reform" :) [22:58] rworkman, anything better than the previous system . [22:59] talk about rationing, it took me 4 days to reach the person at a doctors office just to get an appointment.. and now i have 15 more days of waiting! YEA. [23:01] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] we have long waits up here in Canada as well. health care is affordable her atm. [23:01] here [23:01] jewbacca_ (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] jewbacca_ (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:02] BillyBob81 (~BillyBob8@pool-71-98-27-142.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Goodbye. [23:02] johnbristol (~johnbrist@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] hitest, yea but i'm letting the dumbasses know ahead of time, it takes at least 10-15 days for me to get an appointment here, even with good health care [23:03] before they cry rationing in a few years [23:03] but then again my shit aint serious, it's sports injuries.. and sex injuries thanks to eviljames's girlfriend, who knew she was 450 lbs.. i was blind folded but whatever [23:04] Weird. For the most part, I can call any of my docs and get seen *that* day if it's important. Worst case scenario, they'll work me in within a week. [23:04] rworkman, you're not in LA :) [23:04] rworkman: same here [23:04] Um, I've seen eviljames' girlfriend. She's sexy. [23:04] canada is a nice example of the wonders of socialized medicine. there people pay zero basically and for that they get waitlisted for about 10 years for their mri/xray/whatever [23:04] jewbacca, you got the JewPlan PPO ? [23:04] rworkman: no, fidelis [23:04] oh [23:04] rworkman: your lucky. my Doctor has a two week backlog of bookings. [23:04] you're [23:05] it's already rationed [23:05] if you want a good doctor, you're gonna wait [23:05] unless if you can get squeezed in or go sit there and wait for a cnacellation [23:05] it's ALWAYS been like that [23:05] they have what people call "death panels" [23:05] mancha: that's not the case in my province. [23:05] i've found that some of the hindi docs are pretty good...then again, others among them suck [23:05] O.o [23:06] chopp, people are triaged though, if you're 65, chronic, and need a pricey procedure, g'luck [23:06] jewbacca, there's all kinds of good and bad doctors [23:06] last time i had DR nick riviera, he wasn't too good [23:06] i'm dealing with dr khasani [23:06] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [23:07] it just depends on how busy the doctor is, that simple [23:07] mancha: yeah I've heard of those cases also. I myself have needed mri's/etc, and usually get in within a few weeks. [23:07] See, here's the deal: legislative bodies cannot suspend the laws of supply and demand. The rest of the argument is just details related to that main point. [23:07] chopp: few weeks? i got in for an mri within a week [23:08] they can distort the laws of supply and demand though (cf fannie mae / freddie mac / housing bubble & crash) [23:08] mancha: distort =! suspend :) [23:08] jewbacca: mine wasn't an emergency. I have had mri's that were, and was done in a few days. [23:08] agreed, distort is what they do, and they do it wonderously well [23:09] chopp: yeah...mine was considered urgent [23:09] And you could argue that they really did neither - they simply artificially adjusted supply (where there was none) which stimulated demand. [23:09] chopp: just waiting for the doc to set an operation date [23:10] Try to sell me a bag of ice for $10 today and I'll tell you to kiss my ass. Try to sell me a bag of ice for $10 in hte middle of summer while my truck is out of gas, my freezer is broken, and I'm stuck outside, and you've got a customer. [23:10] jewbacca, good luck with the enlargement [23:10] OK, gtk+2 compile started, by my rough estimate it should be done by august 16th [23:10] dtzWill (will@unaffiliated/dtzwill) left ##slackware. [23:10] rworkman, i like that attitude, i'm tired of people thinking that people with upper positions dont purposely screw people.. [23:10] jeev: stop projecting your fantasies on me [23:11] jewbacca, i was going to give you my doctors info.. [23:11] Link23 (~Lol@157.3.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: See ya. [23:11] newslacker (~kc@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] he took me from 14 to 9.. he could've given you the 5 difference and made you a 6 [23:11] " :. [23:11] jeev: but that's not the issue. As far as private enterprise is concerned, nobody gets screwed without being a willing participant. [23:11] newslacker (kc@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [23:11] When the "enterprise" is a government monopoly, that's a different breed of cat. [23:12] screwed must be code for uncle sam didn't give it to me free as a handout [23:12] rworkman, when it comes to health, everyone is willing [23:12] mancha, usually people who complain about handouts dont have much money. [23:12] jeev: what use would i have for a 12" member when i can't walk atm? [23:13] hahah [23:13] "If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves." --Thomas Sowell [23:13] the beauty of rworkman's example is the way supply and demand affect the price of a commodity [23:13] you jknow what needs to change [23:13] wasted spending. [23:14] seriously, they're still spending 50 bux a roll on toilet paper [23:14] it's not even two ply. [23:14] night all [23:14] night [23:14] night jeev [23:14] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:15] This sums up my feelings on healthcare reform, and HopeAndChange, pretty well: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg [23:15] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:15] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:16] mancha, you know as well as i do, most of the people bitching about the health care bill are the people who can't even afford health care. [23:16] baloney [23:16] I'd like to see a link to the stats on that. [23:17] most of the people defending it have no idea what the bill says, have some utopian notion of socialized medicine and aren't overly bright [23:17] rworkman, turn on the tv and see the people surrounding palin, look at their teeth [23:17] i don't know about that, jeev, but a vast majority of the country doesn't know what the bill actually does. [23:17] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:17] the bill isn't in any way socializing medicine... [23:17] they're the fat ass, git er done people who wouldn't have a chance when they had a heart attack [23:17] zaltekk: sure it is - just not completely. [23:18] ask 100 obamacare supporters to outline a few of the major elements of the bill and you'll get 99 deer-in-headlights zombie looks [23:18] rworkman: the government doesn't run the hospitals or insurance companies under the bill. [23:18] zaltekk: no need - it already does. [23:18] mancha, we're fine with 3 changes. [23:18] slackin (~slackin@183.153.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:18] rworkman: the government doesn't pay the doctors or the insurance agents. private companies do. [23:18] correct. it will take 5-7 years of gubmint run "healthcare" to put all the insurance companies out of business, which is what the actual intent of this "reform" is. [23:18] the UK is an example of socialized medicine [23:19] Canadan is an example of semi-socialized medicine [23:19] dont let them cut off my insurance when i get sick, allow people who used to be sick to get insurance and cut the crap theft that happens when people run "medical supply" businesses [23:19] an interesting bit of triviata, a particular $health_insurance_firm began pumping mucho $$ into the democratic coffers durin this whole mess [23:19] i'm really interested in the doctor getting paid upon good work. [23:19] jeev: have some more koolaid, comrade [23:19] i dont know what to think about the mandate [23:19] I want some koolkaid [23:19] when i was watching cspan, some idiot called and said "i dont think i need insurance, im a pretty healthy guy" [23:19] The insurance companies and hospitals are heavily regulated by the government. There's no need for government to "own" them if it can control them through legislation. [23:20] jeev: he's right. [23:20] i'm a pretty good driver but when some woman comes and hits me, who's gonna pay my shit ? [23:20] or he's wrong, in which case he should die. [23:20] what if he breaks an ankle ? [23:20] everyone always talks about the koolaid but no one ever gives me some. I'm starting to get upset about the lack of sharing going on. [23:20] rworkman: that isn't socialism, though. [23:20] ok, so dont mandate him. but if he comes into the hospital, if he doesn't show real non-photoshopped bank statements then just let him die [23:20] what an idiot, he still embraces quaint ideas like personal freedom and liberty, as ifthe founding fathers were still around. [23:20] regulation and socialism are not the same thing at all [23:20] mancha: yep, that's me. [23:20] antiwire: the kool aid has cyanide in it [23:20] wow, the lack of Clue exhibited by jeev is truly extraordinary. [23:21] why can't we talk about more important news items, like ricky martin? [23:21] thrice` because you're too busy sucking him off ?:D [23:21] I want some fscking koolaid [23:21] we'll wait till you come covered in grease [23:21] i mean whowas this freedom monger who called cspan? ship him off to somewhere that still values personal libery, ayup? [23:21] zaltekk: when government is administering the service, it's socialism. [23:21] mancha: australia? [23:22] there's no such thing as freedom and liberty [23:22] dunno, but them boys walk upside down [23:22] thanks to "TERRRRRRRRRORIRiRISRISRISRSTS" [23:22] Action: danc3 can't take any more of the libtard koolaid slurping, and departs. [23:22] danc3 (danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left ##slackware ("Gone to do something useful!"). [23:22] danc3 wasn't interested eh [23:22] rworkman: regulations aren't socialism, plain and simple. i don't see why anyone that is against healthcare reform for being "socialist" isn't against things like amtrak and the post office [23:23] mancha: they, unlike the uk, still admire rugged individualism, which implies that there's some freedom to be found [23:23] which actually are owned and controlled by the government [23:23] zaltekk, because people are ignorant [23:23] jewbacca, plus they have topless beaches and women with nice racks [23:23] zaltekk, http://i.imgur.com/590Ev.png [23:23] any country that can boast that, and also nice steak on the barbie can't be bad [23:23] mancha: and a 3:1 female:male ratio [23:23] zaltekk: in practice, regulations = socialism -- even if you can (correctly) argue that they technically don't. [23:24] 3:1?? i didn't know that. wow. [23:24] zaltekk: re amtrak and such, perhaps I am :) [23:24] the poorest and dumbest people in the country are against "socialism" because they somehow think their 50 dollars per year in taxes is being wasted on "helping others" [23:24] mancha: 3:1? you may finally get laid [23:24] mancha: and they're looking for skilled americans [23:24] liberals are conservatives that don't know any better i thought... [23:25] LOL, 9 members of a christian blah group were caught plotting to overthrow the government, HAHAHAHA [23:25] mancha, that's your people; boy. [23:26] jeev doesn't have the intellectual wherewithal to engage me, it takes me less than 10 minutes to get him from a seemingly intelligent conversation to him personally insulting me [23:26] rworkman: the real point is, the conservatives don't want the bill at all. the liberals don't think that enough is being done in the bill and that it is a quazifailure. [23:26] it's no longer about liberal or conservative...neither truly exist in political office [23:26] (i mean the idiot right wing christian weirdos) shit i think american's have destroyed christianity but since im' armenian, i guess we're the biggest idiots of all.. accepting christianity first.. [23:26] mancha, it shouldn't be taken as an insult [23:26] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:26] zaltekk: no argument there. [23:26] this empassioned and ad hominem approach is indicative of a small brain [23:27] jeev: that link was funny [23:27] mancha, i tend to want to beat you to a pulp to make you understand :) i'm a fighter, not a talker [23:27] but a lover. [23:28] i can understand, if i didn't have the smarts to win with logic i'd prolly wanna roll up my sleeves too [23:28] mancha: jeev is actually tolerable when you're popping oxycodone [23:28] mancha, i have better logic than most. [23:28] that's why, i have to lower myself to your level and try to win that way before you beat me up [23:28] that was clever :/ [23:28] mancha: otherwise, he's a tosser [23:29] brbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbB [23:29] ok, i'm out, will return when there's some slackware/linux chat :) [23:29] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-184-203.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] mancha: do you know if anyone is porting the cluster tools from rhel-centos to be built as slackware packages? [23:30] heya,folks [23:30] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:30] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:30] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:32] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:36] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:39] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [23:40] Dangit, there is no truecrypt channel. [23:40] riza,your menu working alright? [23:40] I was hoping someone could answer my question. Been a while since I did any formatting with truecrypt. If I did, it asks if I want to use FAT or none. Gah, can anyone remind me? [23:41] DareDevil012 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:41] MLanden, works great. I am doing backup to ensure any error would be.. well.. not really a problem. [23:41] riza,good news..:D [23:41] -:) [23:44] DareDevil01 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:45] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-191.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:45] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:45] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:45] riza,are you encrypting a USB device(i.e. a USB stick)? [23:46] Nope. [23:46] Encrypting a partition on another internal hard drive. [23:46] All 900gb of it. [23:46] Action: riza cackles. [23:49] Going to use none. I have no intention whatsoever to mount this on Windows. Screw Windows. [23:49] DareDevil012 (~Secret@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [23:51] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-238.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:51] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-191.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:51] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:51] riza,reading their(truecrypt's) dox....guessin' it's referring to Windows 2000(non-NTFS) to later(NTFS) [23:52] Yup. [23:52] Holy crap, it takes 10+ hours to format. [23:52] And it wants me to move my mouse randomly for 10+ hours?! [23:52] Hey what software can i use to handle pdf in slackware because i don't like xpdf is very rustic [23:52] kpdf [23:52] i don't know where to find softwares [23:53] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] i am pretty lost [23:53] Explore alround. [23:53] around [23:53] That's the whole purpose of using Linux. [23:53] Well, one of the purpose, as a consumer. [23:53] keashery (~keashery@117.136.12.66) joined ##slackware. [23:53] kpdf for xfce? [23:53] Sure. [23:53] You're on Slack13? [23:53] okular if you use kde [23:54] okular <3 [23:54] DareDevil0: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/office/epdfview/ [23:54] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:54] riza, i am on slack 13 using xfce [23:55] Use okular. [23:55] Or kpdf. [23:55] Action: jewbacca uses evince [23:56] i like evince [23:56] because it does many more formats than just pdf... [23:56] mancha: agreed [23:56] postscript ? [23:56] mancha: it's a good general purpose viewer [23:56] trh yes [23:56] trhodes: postscript, multi-page tiff, etc [23:57] qt-x (~c1e206e2@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhzewinasdrourzo) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:57] ahh cool, i haven't used it (yet) [23:57] Action: ut hasn't gotten away from okular because he hasn't figured out how to install anything without pain [23:57] ut: pain == pleasure [23:57] ... not so much, in my experience. [23:57] ut: pain is just the feeling of weakness leaving the body [23:58] says oxycodone eating jewbacca :) [23:58] slackin (~slackin@183.153.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:58] or blood? sometimes blood... [23:58] trhodes: hehe...caught me on that... [23:58] :P [23:58] jewbacca, I never understood that saying. [23:58] heheh [23:58] trhodes: the only reason i keep popping those is so i can play with my kids without dropping them [23:59] seriously, though, how do the senior slackware users install stuff? [23:59] Action: ut is convinced he's doing it wrong [23:59] riza: it's from training...basically motivating one to keep going through some rougher training [00:00] --- Tue Mar 30 2010