[00:00] lemme copy that down and give it a shot (I'll switch to my desktop for IRC) [00:00] if you look at the logs after re-starting, you should not the change (using my LoadModule grep) [00:00] *note the change [00:01] Naex (n=naex@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:01] Naex_ (n=chatzill@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [00:01] Nick change: Naex_ -> Naex [00:01] alright, doing that now [00:02] OK, i have not really noticed much diff between 3.0.0.x and 3.5.x (firefox here). one big plus is theur private browsing session infrastructure. two medium minuses: the ugly "open new tab" plus symbol and not being able to "x" the tab if its on its lonesome. [00:03] whoa, x -configure automatically popped up as radeonhd [00:03] http://tinyurl.com/y98d94g [00:04] mancha, there are plugins to fix everything you just mentioned [00:04] antiwire don't get my hopes up =( [00:04] who said d&d couldn't be fun? [00:04] lol [00:04] ever watched role models? [00:04] hipto, ok, will look around but getting plugin to "fix" deficiencies is annoying! :) [00:05] Paladin my ass. She just might want to dance on my pole. [00:05] lmao [00:05] She might want to get pole-laden. [00:05] mancha, i'd rather see them is options too, but at least there's something to be done about it [00:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:06] hipto, indeed. thanks for pointing out that plugins exist for that [00:06] mancha: worked! I shall name my first born Klingon after you [00:06] mancha, "Remove New Tab Button 1.0" is what i'm using [00:06] Naex (n=chatzill@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [00:06] naex (n=naex@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] "Tabs Open Relative" is another of my favorites. [00:07] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:07] hipto, ok, will look for those. i will also see if i can just patch the source (look for if tab_number==1 or whatever_) [00:07] mancha, sure, not that that's any easier. [00:07] naex, i was just providing peanut gallery fodder, your gratitude should be extended to rworkman too [00:08] I was about to thank him as well [00:08] It takes a village. :) [00:08] rworkman: Danke [00:08] I keep having to jump between machines [00:08] ack, visual memories of billary! off to get me more spirits [00:08] naex: screen [00:08] mancha: sorry :D [00:08] slackware.it's changelog rss feed is borked :( [00:08] Thank him for what? He give you the crabs too? [00:08] Action: Dominian runs [00:08] rworkman: screen? [00:08] hiptobecubic: yeah, fizban is workign on a recoding of all that. [00:09] Every entry is a link to a page with no information :-/ [00:09] rworkman, yeah i noticed it was at slackware.it/rss instead of dev.slackware.it, i'm hoping that the one with problems isn't the new one :) [00:09] naex: http://slackwiki.org/Screen [00:09] Although it shouldn't be too terrible to fix, it must be that they forgot to update the links somehow or another [00:09] now the important thing, is the video any better? [00:10] naex: that's really a horrible intro to screen, but it will get you started. [00:10] /wind 4 [00:10] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving." [00:10] rworkman: so I can screen xchat, ctrl-alt-backspace out of X, then load it back up? [00:10] naex: no [00:11] naex: screen is a command line program of sorts... no gui [00:11] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:11] not xchat, but you could screen irssi [00:11] ahhh [00:11] hiptobecubic: http://slackware.it/rss/snap_slackware64-current.xml works for me here in liferea. [00:11] naex, it has to be a terminal app. Nothing gui [00:11] chopp, it works,, but click a link [00:11] naex: as an example, I log in to connie with : ssh connie.slackware.com and then I open a screen session. When I'm ready to log off, I detach from the screen session with Ctrl a d, and then when I log back in, I just do "screen -rd" and I'm back in. Stayed connected the whole time. [00:11] Now you know how many of us stay online all the time :) [00:12] jsut -rd [00:12] i do it with a lot of coffeee [00:12] hiptobecubic: ahh yes, now I get it. :P [00:12] ahhh I see [00:12] i benn doing -raAD [00:12] hrm [00:12] The idea is that you can use your desktop or whatever box as your screen box. [00:12] screen is one of the "must have" apps. [00:12] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:12] indeed [00:12] rworkman: I think I'll need to find some better documentation [00:12] screen is very useful but the ultimate in brilliance gets awared to ssh [00:13] Action: nyRednek needs an ssh account so he can have three screen sessions... [00:13] *awarded (geez) [00:13] We used screen with a root shell to completely change our ip address, restart services and so on, on cardinal about a year ago without rebooting. It required a script, of course, but still :) [00:13] i think there was a straterra related noobfarm about a non believer and screen [00:13] naex: man screen :) [00:13] antiwire: yeah, i remember that [00:14] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:14] antiwire: i seem to recall one between Dominian and Arny with a similar bent [00:14] rworkman: if I start this now I'll never stop, need to start programming soon [00:14] naex: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Screen [00:15] naex, you can get fancy with screen, but to use it in simplest form is easy: 1) type screen 2) run console app 3) detach with C-a C-d 4) re-attach with screen -r [identifier] [00:16] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:16] [identifier] is only needed if you have multiple detached screens else screen -r suffices [00:16] ok programming can wait, let's read this wiki and man file... [00:16] hehe [00:17] Is there a way to set irssi to make some kind of visual divide between nicks and messages? [00:17] BP{k}: I like the info you are giving, now I just need an external system to test it with [00:17] who needs money when screen works? [00:17] rworkman: you use vbox much? [00:18] thumbs: every day. [00:18] rworkman: do you use the OSS, or binary version? [00:19] rworkman: I've had mixed report or 'warnings' against the OSS version, especially to get USB devices to work [00:19] thumbs: the oss is missing some support isn't it? [00:19] thumbs: binary - I'm not much of a purist in that sense - I just want it to work and work immediately. [00:19] hiptobecubic^: can't the irssi theme rc do that? [00:19] I don't need or use the usb support, so I don't know about that. [00:19] rworkman: ok, that answers my question. I guess the slackbuild is out of the question [00:19] init[1]: Don't know. Can it? [00:19] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [00:19] I just just vbox for development -- all of my packages and SBo testing is done in virtual machines [00:20] if you don't need or use usb why not use auditable code? [00:20] hiptobecubic^: don't know if you would like it, i don't but ,check this http://irssi.org/themefiles/revolutionary.png [00:20] thumbs: the binary installer works fine. I sometimes have to cd into /usr/src/vbox* and manually "make ; make install" though. [00:20] mancha: time. [00:21] rworkman: ugh, 'make install'? You're scaring me. [00:21] init[1], yeah that's pretty hideous, and doesn't do what i was thinking of. :) [00:21] thumbs: just for the kernel modules [00:21] oh. [00:21] And it's in suomi to boot [00:21] thumbs: sometimes the kernel modules don't build correctly, and of course a kernel upgrade requires them rebuilt. No need to re-run the installer for that. [00:21] Everything but the kernel modules are in /opt/VirtualBox or some such. [00:22] rworkman: OK, I'll download the .run file. [00:22] mancha: the other reason is that my host is 64bit. The OSS won't build on it unless I have the multilib stuff installed. [00:22] I've been using qemu-kvm with great success, for what it's worth. [00:22] hiptobecubic^, test. [00:23] kvm is probably the nicest linux solution, tbh [00:23] I hear good things about qemu-kvm, but alas, what I have works fine, so status quo it is. [00:23] rworkman: So you run irc from your home box in a screen, SSH to it from somewhere else, and reattach to use it there? [00:23] naex: no, I irc from connie. [00:23] I think rworkman runs his screen session from slackware [00:23] i mean, near (and i mean near) native speed? how do you beat that in vm land [00:23] er.. slackware.com [00:24] rworkman, sure. I didn't really spend any time with vbox after i left ubuntu, but it worked back then. [00:24] Yeah, I do. I'm cloaked on freenode so that you can't tell, but on oftc, you can. [00:24] rworkman: Ok, but the same principle different locations [00:24] well the OSS vbox slackbuild is almost done. I'll see how that goes first. [00:24] 21:23 [oftc] -!- rworkman [3356@connie.slackware.com] [00:24] naex: yes [00:24] rworkman: we can fix that muh ha ha ha [00:24] ;) [00:24] naex: I do pretty much the same, I ssh from home into buhkit (my VPS) and have irssi running on buhkit inside a screensession. [00:24] :) [00:24] same here [00:24] This sounds perfect for work [00:25] so much nicer [00:25] yes :) [00:25] and it stays up 24/7 [00:25] Naex: have you considered ZNC? [00:25] why not cloak on oftc or does it not provide cloaks? and also is oftc worthwhile at all? [00:25] init[1]: I've only just heard the time in the last 10 seconds [00:25] Dominian:why no a bouncer/ [00:25] eh.. znc is a bouncer and imho not really needed for one prson [00:25] ? [00:25] mancha: don't worry about oftc [00:25] s/no/not/ [00:25] Unless however they want to run znc and connect using.. say Xchat [00:26] we like it the way it is [00:26] mancha: oftc probably does, but so far, it's not really been an issue there. [00:26] oftc is a much quieter network :) [00:26] quiet good or quiet bad? [00:26] what? [00:26] oftc does do cloaks, but they're a bit harder to obtain than freenodes I think. [00:26] I'm cloaked on oftc [00:26] quiet good. [00:26] slackware by default blocks SSH connections, right? [00:27] naex: no [00:27] naex: depends on how you configured it. [00:27] oftc looks pretty similar to freenode [00:27] oh I thought... let's give it a shot [00:27] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "leaving" [00:27] oftc is quite a bit smaller than freenode as well [00:28] you guys like my new nick? [00:28] Nick change: antiwire -> SpamCannon [00:28] yewwww [00:29] pew pew pew [00:29] lol [00:29] SpamCannon: slackCannon would be nice i guess [00:29] looks like SSH is blocked, time to figure out how to unblock it [00:29] in or out? [00:29] Naex: chmod + /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd ; [00:29] s/+/+x/ [00:30] and run it [00:30] Action: BP{k} slaps antwire [00:30] BP{k}: action fail [00:30] BP{k}: check the spell [00:30] :P [00:31] init[1]: chmod s+x? [00:31] Nick change: SpamCannon -> antiwire [00:31] Naex: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd ; [00:31] All your spam are belong to SpamCannon. Forward it all to icanhazurspam@gmail.com [00:32] Naex: i think you are talking about firewall level ? [00:32] Naex: are you ? [00:32] init[1]: you mean "spelling.", right? if you want to correct people on their spelling, please make sure you spell things correctly in the first place. :-P [00:32] i mean blocking ssh ? [00:32] fire|bird: check the filter....:P [00:32] init[1]: Uh no, I want to start it [00:32] MLanden: haha [00:32] Naex: /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd start [00:33] Naex: make your script had +x on [00:33] init[1]: yeah, I did do that [00:33] BP{k}: s/antwire/antiwire/ [00:33] BP{k}: ah , :) [00:33] -_- [00:33] 11:07 **** BP{k} slaps antwire [00:33] init[1]: this will autostart on boot? [00:33] Naex: yep [00:33] Action: MLanden gives deco some coffee...O_O...:P [00:34] init[1]: Thank you god sir [00:34] MLanden: thanks but i'm gonna drink some pepsi :P [00:34] Naex: yo yo, i'm not sir , just casual slacker ;) [00:34] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [00:34] gotcha,deco....@_@ [00:34] *_* [00:34] lol [00:34] init[1]: Yes, I know that I made a typo. Now stop being annoying. Go look up the difference between a "spell" and "spelling". [00:34] lol [00:35] init[1] got served [00:35] naex (n=naex@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:35] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [00:35] BP{k}: o_O yea i saw that, spell == Harrypotter Species spelling = english ? [00:36] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210c2.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [00:36] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] BP{k}: nvm, cut me off ;) [00:37] Action: deco hands init[1] an english 101 book :P [00:37] bah, the manual for vbox is all about the binary installer. Screw the OSE build. [00:38] thumbs: are there much difference between OSE and binary ? only the USB support isn't it [00:38] isn't there another channel for that? :-P [00:39] the english 101 book that is. [00:39] init[1]: apparently. Their official docs refer to the binary installation. [00:39] init[1]: as robby said, I'll stick to what works for others. [00:39] naex (n=naex@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [00:40] :) [00:40] gooph: yes there is...one can got to the dalnet board for the more spicy words..:P [00:41] oh sweet. [00:42] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left ##slackware. [00:46] hey guys I get an error when I try to su "setgid: operation not permitted" [00:48] I looked online and it talked about root shadow [00:50] ls -l $(which su) [00:50] naex/users [00:50] ick [00:50] ok chown that to root, got yeah [00:50] how did that even happen? [00:50] chown root:root $(which su) ; chmod 4711 $(which su) [00:51] hey I always just use back ticks instead of $(), what is the difference in that? [00:51] antiwire: this: $(echo $(which su)) [00:51] (try that with backticks) :) [00:51] does the dollar sign signify "do first"? [00:51] oh wait [00:51] bash script [00:51] nevermind [00:51] nope, just shel substitution [00:52] s/shel/command/ [00:52] I'll figure this out [00:52] naex: I'm beginning to suspect that you followed some misguided "howto" somewhere about "how to make your system more secure by removing all suid bits" [00:53] "secure" [00:53] rworkman: Nah, system security isn't a massive priority for me, I don't do anything important enough for anyone who knows what they're doing to get to me, and I'm not stupid enough to fall for one of the generic "kill my computer" viruses/scripts [00:53] rworkman: installed the non-OSE :) [00:53] rworkman: I did follow quite a few howto's, though [00:54] brb (can't sudo so I gotta stop x to chown =\) [00:54] naex (n=naex@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:55] naex (n=naex@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [00:55] rworkman: Thanks again [00:56] naex: well, the number of issues like this make me think there are probably others, so you might consider a reinstall from scratch to eliminate "weird" problems. [00:56] thumbs: :) [00:57] rworkman: now to decide if I risk trashing the existing sda3 partition (XP), or install a fresh copy. [00:57] rworkman: That was actually the last one, I've been hunting down all these annoying little things over the past few days, I can't reinstall now though, I need this machine to work [00:59] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [01:01] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) joined ##slackware. [01:02] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) left irc: "Leaving" [01:02] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:03] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:05] root (n=root@adsl-99-57-144-206.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:05] root kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [01:05] that's unfortunate [01:06] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-99-57-144-206.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Hello People./ [01:06] hi bobby [01:06] hi bobby, are root from 1 min ago? [01:06] naex, I was the root. [01:06] naex: lol [01:06] bobby: you made my day [01:06] Bow before me, for I am root. [01:06] root gets the boot. [01:07] Action: naex hails rworkman. [01:07] naex: it's alright. It's a laptop that I'm still setting up. It has not secure documents. :) [01:07] i press the download button and it tells me i need to download firefox. [01:07] wut the fuck ;/ i'm using firefox, mozilla fail! :< [01:08] rworkman: wow, setting up a new XP image is lightning fast on vbox. [01:08] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/video download [01:08] anyone else have that issue? [01:08] press the download now.. [01:08] bobby: Secure documents, no, accidently putting an app that copies everything from your home dir and mails it, maybe [01:09] acidchild: on what extension? [01:09] acidchild: there is no download now there [01:09] anyway, I have an odd issue. With one router, I use wpa_supplicant and need to use dhclient for correct mac reporting and IP assignment. With another router I used wpa_supplicant and dhclient and it worked. Later, it refuses to work. Now manual dhcpcd wlan0 doesn't work. But when using wicd, dhcpcd wlan0 gets me an IP. wpa_supplicant connects fine manually and shows event connected. [01:09] VirtualBox works *so* well. I feel disappointed in myself for holding my breath and expecting it to fail as I attempted the Windows XP full-screen mode with dual monitors [01:10] naex: nah, copying 2g movies will take forever. [01:10] redtricycle: did you install guest addons ? [01:10] yep [01:10] emma_ (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [01:10] bobby: Heh. The source code I'm writing would only take about 15 seconds =D [01:10] bobby you're a pretty complex person (judging from the serpentine form of your question). a good rule of thumb, though, is dhclient sucks $profanity_here [01:11] thumbs: thumbs yep [01:12] mancha I'm a dhcpcd fan. It worked fine until I use it on my router and it fails in getting the correct IP. The router shows the correct MAC address being connected but fails to assigned the configured IP to the MAC. It fails on this version of dhcpcd everytime. But it works on dhclient everytime. So I moved to that so my IPs assign correctly. [01:12] thumbs: mine redirects me via about button to getfirefox.com [01:12] acidchild: yep what? I asked you a question. [01:12] acidchild: which of the addons on that page? [01:12] acidchild: not here [01:12] acidchild: firefox <- there's your problem. [01:12] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13990 [01:12] bobby: oh plz. [01:12] acidchild: I use FF 3.x [01:12] anything mozilla is basically blah. [01:12] use konq. [01:12] 3.0.9 here. [01:12] bobby: that's so unfair, mozilla isn't bad [01:12] acidchild: err 3.5.x [01:12] when i press on the download now button it tells me to get firefox [01:13] wutwut [01:13] To install 1-Click YouTube Video Download and thousands of other Firefox add-ons, get Firefox, a free and open web browser from Mozilla. To learn more about Firefox and how it can make your internet experience better, click the button below. [01:13] naex: mozilla is alright. it's what the people do to it. [01:13] acidchild: something's wonky on your installation. [01:13] worked fine for a long time ;/ [01:13] naex: netscape/firefox.... [01:13] acidchild: hm I don't see a "download now" button tbh. [01:13] bobby: You mean addons/modifications? [01:13] bobby, so you have some IP<-->MAC table on your router which the router logs show is being repected and dhcpcd will not get the right IP? what IP does it get? [01:13] BP{k}: he's getting redirecting based on the UA [01:13] naex: FF3 is fast so it comes thru nicely somewhat. [01:13] bobby: does dhcpcd get an ip at all? [01:14] mancha: it's gets basically the next one available. such as .11 if the last one used it .10. [01:14] BP{k}: http://ziwall.net/~ash/this.jpg [01:14] bobby: I like FF3 because I wrote a bunch of mods for it, it's very easy to do [01:14] rworkman: dhcpcd gets an IP. on first router. On the second router it was working until now, and now it simply refuses to get an IP. But here's the tricky part. I use wicd (which used dhcpcd) and it gets an IP. lol. [01:15] acidchild: works fine here. [01:15] Weird. [01:15] acidchild: nope, I can install that extension without a prob. :\ [01:15] rworkman: indeed. [01:15] but you know you're connected to router #2? [01:15] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [01:15] what does iwconfig show? [01:15] BP{k}: ima not insane then ;/ [01:15] mancha: correct. 'coz I use wpa_supplicant -dd and it shows event_connected or something. [01:16] acidchild: backup your profile, and start fresh. [01:16] acidchild: well no more than usual, no. ;) [01:16] that's fine but i don't trust you :) can you show me iwconfig? [01:16] or at least verify you're indeed associated based on that output? [01:16] ah, its because my user-agent string is spoofed...clever chap brought that up in the firefox channel [01:16] other than the wifi thing, I'm liking slackware on teh laptop. replacing kubuntu. [01:17] mancha: hmmm I can get you the output but it's this laptop. I will be out for a minute. [01:17] or wpa_cli if you're so technologically inclined [01:17] acidchild: did you spoof it ? [01:17] yep [01:17] acidchild: no wonder :P [01:17] brb [01:17] bobby, before pasting the output keep in mind that if associated, the key will be there, i don't want to see that, just want to know it is there [01:18] theres 2 addons i know of that can change user-agent stings,probly more as well as about:config [01:19] my proxy does. [01:19] s/stings/strings [01:19] 01:13 < thumbs> BP{k}: he's getting redirecting based on the UA [01:19] acidchild: ^^ [01:19] yep [01:19] i know =] [01:19] totally forgot about it being changed. [01:20] ima google bot ;x [01:20] acidchild: that's a lie. [01:20] whats a lie? [01:21] acidchild: you're not a google bot. [01:21] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Success [01:21] not shit sherlock [01:21] fire|bird: you like testing things,saw this today ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.6b4/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-3.6b4.tar.bz2 [01:22] My laptop is a model which has a touchpad as well as a pointer nipple. I know my pointer nipple supports tapping since the windows synaptics driver allows it to work. Has anyone here ever been successful in getting a pointer nipple to tap click in X? [01:22] my touch pad will do tap clicks in X but not the nipple [01:22] I hate those nipples [01:23] ok? [01:23] lol [01:23] acidchild: make sure you get the nibble events with _xev_ if so there is a hope ;P [01:23] nipple [01:23] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-99-57-144-206.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:23] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-99-57-144-206.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] Hello People. [01:24] antiwire: ^ [01:24] mancha u still in the chan? [01:24] That is not an indicator. the touch pad does do tap clicks and it does not throw an xev event [01:25] mancha: http://dpaste.com/126509/ [01:25] this is crazy [01:25] antiwire: I have never seen the touchpad taps working in X. [01:25] Rat409: Thanks. [01:26] antiwire: could it be similiar to what I need on my thinkpad? [01:26] bobby: ... the touchpad tap clicks fine. [01:26] I'm talking about the pointer nipple [01:26] echo -n 1 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/press_to_select [01:26] antiwire: oh ok. my touchpads never click on taps. :) [01:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:27] bobby, ok so you are associated and i presume 00:1b:77:9c:59:7c [01:27] chopp: is 'press_to_select' an actual option you have in there? [01:27] is the right mac addy [01:27] mancha: correct. [01:28] is iptables nuking the dhcp packets? [01:28] now it works. using wicd. which is using well the same dhcpcd. lol. it's weird. [01:28] antiwire: yes it is. [01:28] brb [01:28] mancha: no, this is a default slackware install. simple router. the same command was working earlier today. [01:28] chopp: my synaptics setup doesn't have that option [01:28] oh right, wicd'll work, so it ain't firewall [01:29] mancha: it's just that I'd like to use the cli and set it myself unless we get knetworkmanager which is nice and cool. it's a kde gadget so fits. Otherwise, I don't want to use wicd or other gui things. [01:29] antiwire: look for smthing similar [01:30] as chopp gave [01:30] init[1]: please stfu [01:30] I am capable of extrapolation thank you very much [01:30] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] kevin_ (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] kevin_ (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:30] mancha: it's no problem using wicd, but I like to understand things and make sense of why cli is very dodgy. sometimes I spend an hour at home trying to use the same commands over and over and sometimes they just work. lol. it's weird. [01:30] bobby, knetworkmanager is a frontend to networkmanager which is not on the slack [01:31] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:31] this is quite weird though, it is timing out though...which is suggesting some weirdness to me [01:31] mancha: right, it's not on slackware yet. It's in pretty recent kde release. So that's why I wanted to just keep things cli. [01:31] oh wait, i misread your dpaste, i *was* right, you're not accosiated [01:32] you see this "Access Point: Not-Associated [01:32] " in your iwconfig? [01:32] that is why dhcpcd is not able to get an ip, your problem, grasshopper, is one step earlier, with wpa_supplicant [01:32] yeah I saw that too. but then I also saw the wpa saying the event_connected. [01:33] which it does on the command line. not in wpa_cli. [01:33] you're not associated [01:33] mancha: weird. why does wpa_cli show: wpa_state=COMPLETED [01:33] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:33] shredder12 (n=shredder@proxy.iiit.ac.in) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:33] I guess you're right. my wpa_supplicant is being moody then. [01:35] Nick change: naex -> Naex [01:35] antiwire: did you manage to find anything along the lines of what chopp said? [01:35] hi ho hi ho off to ignore i go [01:36] mancha: now I'm pissed that wpa_supplicant is being crappy. can't a slacker just get a wifi break? [01:36] mancha: thanks for looking. :) [01:37] check your wpa_supplicant.conf for typos. [01:37] i've never had wpa_supplicant issues tbh, i suspect bad configg'ing. paste your .conf or summit and your actual wpa_supplicant command [01:38] mancha: antiwire: that's just it. It was working earlier in the day. without any changes. the file hasn't changed today. [01:38] antiwire: to get that to show up I also had to blacklist a module, let me go look. [01:38] do you have other instances running? a lockfile? etc etc [01:39] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:40] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:40] mancha: http://dpaste.com/126512/ [01:40] bobby, type this and then start from scratch: killall wpa_supplicant; killall dhcpcd; rm /etc/dhcpc/*.pid [01:41] bobby: you can also try to first, make sure all instances of wpa_supplicant are killed and then remove the wifi driver module with modprobe -r and reinsert it, then re-run wpa_supplicant [01:41] damn. [01:41] mancha: granted the wicd generate file says things like wpa rsn. But this doesn't support wpa2 so I don't have rsn in the hand generated file. Besides, the file was working earlier today. [01:41] I didn't mean to repeat half what what mancha said. [01:41] antiwire: found this not sure if what you need http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint [01:41] antiwire: true that. I do killall wpa_supplicant before each attempt. :) [01:41] zuse12345 (n=zuse1234@75-173-233-185.clsp.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:42] hi [01:42] :D [01:42] hi [01:42] mancha: I do that before each attempt. I run killall wpa_supplicant and killall dhcpcd [01:42] :D [01:42] zuse12345 (n=zuse1234@75-173-233-185.clsp.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [01:42] what's with that weird wpa_supplicant command? [01:43] mancha: ? [01:43] sorry bad copy paste job. real command: sudo /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd & [01:43] Action: NaCl is so happy that wicd will be ditching templates in the future [01:44] Action: Naex follows NaCl's lead. [01:44] NaCl: ditching templates? [01:44] I don't even know what a template is, yay wicd [01:44] Rat409: the thinkwiki has helped me a lot in the past but no love this time [01:44] antiwire: my bad, I *used* to have to mess with psmouse but not any more. [01:45] nyRednek: yeah [01:45] try my compound command from a minute back, and then wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -B [01:45] nyRednek: Going to do it by just feeding stuff into wpa_supplicnat [01:45] then see if dhcpcd wlan0 gives you sugar [01:45] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] chopp: the frustrating part is that I know the hardware can do it because the official windows driver makes it happen. [01:45] NaCl: templates as in profiles? [01:45] mancha: brb. it will disconnect this connection. [01:46] antiwire: maybe something here will help? [01:46] thumbs: templates as in /etc/wicd/encryption/templates [01:46] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint [01:46] NaCl: oh [01:46] yeah, reading it now [01:46] cool [01:46] good night, all [01:46] Naex (n=naex@69-165-129-239.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:47] impy (n=impy@88.147.70.16) left irc: [01:47] nick[0] (n=sten@S01060016b664a9e5.lb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] bobby, don't forget to give it a bit of time after running wpa_supplicant and before invoking dhcpcd, four handshakes is a lot of hands [01:49] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:51] Does anyone know how to do this: Suppose I'm editing a plaintext file, and saving it every so often. Is there some way to have another program (on another virtual desktop, for example) "live update" to see how the layout would change? (this isn't something I *need*, but I do wonder if/how it's possible) [01:51] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-254-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:51] Hello [01:51] do we haz success? [01:52] mancha: ok, so I tried your command, it worked. [01:52] mancha: then, I killed all of those. and tried my script again. [01:52] mancha: and ...... it worked. [01:52] argh!!!!!!!!! [01:53] so stale pidfile [01:53] so now my original script is working. [01:53] so you're think *.pid is sticking around? [01:53] or runaway process [01:53] either way, all's good. uncork the bubbly. [01:53] killall would kill runaways. [01:54] You know one time I troubleshot wpa_supplicant problems for 8 hours only to finally realize I had another instance running. [01:54] the thing is .... in gentoo I set it and forget it. [01:54] I felt like a jackass [01:54] like those late nite cooking ovens. [01:54] antiwire: lol. [01:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:54] I have used wpa_supplicant for a while and like it. In gentoo, it just blindly code and set it. [01:55] That's what I do here [01:55] this one is slightly older utils, so giving issues. but like mancha said...... bubbly !!!! [01:55] I only use the stock Slackware networking scripts for my laptop [01:55] slackware has stock networking scripts? [01:55] the rc.inet1 stuff? [01:56] rc.inet1 and rc.inet1.conf [01:56] there are hooks in there for /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf use [01:56] hmmm should I put my script in there? [01:56] I don't know what your script does [01:56] oh it has hooks for wpa_supplicant? cool. I was reading thru it a little and thought.... heck I'll just run the script after login. [01:57] You're using a script to invoke wpa_supplicant? [01:57] my script does now, killall and rm *.pid. [01:57] wpa_supplicant is integrated already [01:57] antiwire, yeah the script launches that and dhcpcd so I don't have to type two commands lol. [01:57] The stock scripts handle all of this [01:57] you should prolly rm wlan0.pid, i did *.pid cause i'm lazy and have aggressive tendencies [01:58] antiwire: so I'll put the correct code in rc.inet1 :). [01:58] rc.inet1.conf is all you need to touch [01:58] mancha: either way, lol, it's not like I had other inet connections. [01:58] and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [01:58] I guess I'll read thru rc.inet1. [01:58] I was keeping it the same as my gentoo install just for uniformity. but I like auto start too. [01:59] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [01:59] I wrote this to serve as a very loose guide http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/OyD6XG75.html [02:01] cool. [02:01] I use wpa_supplicant.conf to handle all of the networks I connect to. [02:01] thanks guys for helping me in general. With every headbang into a wall over technical issue hopefully the user remembers something for future technological use. [02:02] glad to had helped find the bugger...enjoy your wifi and thnks for the hex key, now give me some gps coords [02:02] :P [02:02] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] hex key? [02:03] never mind. [02:03] I didn't think I posted it.... [02:04] not that it matters. It's a password used only for my router. not for anything else. [02:04] and if you connected to my router .... meh! [02:04] :P [02:05] yeah attempt at a little light-hearted humor. anyways.. [02:05] hehe. [02:05] light-hearted jokes good. I was thrown off 'coz I thought I specifically removed the psk. 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[06:45] no command foud or somthing like that [06:46] maybe you not installed kde ? [06:47] i didnt , and when i do install it after long time of installing it just print KILLALL manytimes [06:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:48] it just made it now [06:48] KILLED KILLED KILLED [06:48] pff) [06:48] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.24.116) joined ##slackware. [06:50] Gamal-Hussein, maybe better try reinstall again ?) [06:51] ok [06:51] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-234.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [06:51] Gamal-Hussein: Did you verify your iso? [06:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-105-189.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:52] u mean the md5 thing [06:52] am sorry am new to linux [06:52] np [06:53] Gamal-Hussein: Yes. [06:54] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [06:55] yes i did [06:55] Axius (n=ade@92.82.65.96) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:56] i'll do a new virtual machine now [06:56] "linux" the OS and "other" the version ? right? [06:58] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:59] What? ;o [06:59] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.120.229) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:59] Each entry is its own kernel. If there's one labled "other", it's probably windows, *bsd, or osx. [07:00] If you're talking about your lilo menu anyways. [07:03] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:04] good morning ladies and gents :-) [07:04] morning [07:04] moin. [07:06] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [07:09] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-237-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:48] yeah...thanks...I'm looking at it now...I asked kind of early in the morning, so I didn't think anyone was around [07:48] Your morning is not our morning elliot98io [07:49] well, good day, then! [07:49] I'd like to backport some software, so I won't need to upgrade my entire system [07:49] Firefox 3, Openoffice 3, Gimp 1.6, etc. [07:51] ananke, when i use ntddate it works....but ntpd dont [07:51] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:51] rc.ntpd* [07:52] v4nelle: 'ntpdate' doesn't use your ntp.conf, so you still haven't answered my two original questions [07:52] i cant find ntpd logs [07:52] check /var/log/messages [07:53] and i set the spool server on ntp.conf [07:53] 'pool' not 'spool' [07:53] show us your ntp.conf, use pastebin.com [08:00] I installed flash through Slackbuild, but when Konqueror scans for plug-ins, it doesn't find it [08:00] (SW 12.1) [08:03] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:07] war9407 (i=war@liquidswords.org) joined ##slackware. [08:08] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[08:19] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [08:20] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-105-189.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:20] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [08:20] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-105-189.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [08:23] tux (n=tux@92.84.21.69) joined ##slackware. [08:24] How to add lilo bootloader instead of grub to boot the system? [08:24] tux: run /sbin/lilo [08:25] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.18.104) joined ##slackware. [08:27] ChArLoK_16 (n=Abdurrah@188.247.11.39) left irc: "leaving" [08:28] I have installed other system with slack and i messed up the mbr.What should I do? [08:30] tux: do you need the partitions on the drive ? [08:30] I can not boot into slack to recover mbr? [08:31] snL20: yes, i nedd that partition. [08:31] tux: oh ok [08:32] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:33] boot cd , chroot , lilo ) [08:33] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] install cd, use root=/dev/hda1 (or whatever the partition) [08:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:38] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:38] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [08:40] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:40] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [08:41] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:41] urban3 (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [08:42] Azeotrope: How come you keep quitting? 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[09:14] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-115-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:14] hi dudes :) [09:16] har_ (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] har (n=harley@24.7.230.136) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:19] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.132.48) left irc: "Leaving" [09:21] nvision (n=nvision@g225048081.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:22] impy (n=impy@97.60-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [09:27] my settings of such like automatically close to tray etc.. which sound-driver to use... non of these things stick when rebooting.. never had this issue in 12.2.. [09:31] laj_ (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:31] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.44) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Hence (n=Threefol@211.180.33.9) joined ##slackware. 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[09:40] TwinReverb: good for you but as slackbuilds.org admins and Slackware devs we are not going to comment on, or advocate, your package repository which seems to be just packages compiled from slackbuilds.org scripts [09:40] You're free to host and advocate your repository of course - don't take me wrong [09:40] TwinReverb, take a look at the mypaint page; it's more focused on painting [09:40] ok, fair. but am i at least in compliance with any rules written or unwritten? [09:41] i've been using krita (pretty impressive) but it's lacking a few things [09:41] julioc (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) joined ##slackware. [09:41] hoobop: how is it in terms of dependencies? [09:41] TwinReverb: the only rule was that you do not use the package tag "_SBo" and you are adhering to that. So, OK [09:41] alienBOB: cool, thanks. i wanted to make sure i didn't offend. [09:42] TwinReverb, i'll let you know by this afternoon... i'll be building it [09:42] well off i go [09:42] l8r th4nx [09:43] especially you alienBOB, thanks for the help and for double-checking me to make sure i wasn't doin anything bad. [09:43] i hope my email didn't come across strange (i got no replies) [09:43] TwinReverb (n=neosadis@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: ""adios"" [09:44] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:46] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:56] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:57] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [09:58] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left irc: Connection timed out [09:59] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:01] tux (n=tux@92.84.21.69) joined ##slackware. [10:01] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:02] How to use lilo instead of grub? [10:03] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:03] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [10:03] tux: install lilo, configure lilo, then set it up on the MBR, for example [10:04] when I run lilo i get this erorr:Fatal: Cannot open: /etc/lilo.conf [10:04] tux: you are missing step 2 [10:05] run /sbin/liloconfig [10:05] then make sure the new text file it generates in /etc/lilo.conf is correct then run /sbin/lilo [10:09] tux_ (n=tux@92.85.31.199) joined ##slackware. [10:09] tux: how did you end up with grub in the first place? the slackware installer only offeres lilo [10:10] why doesn't slackware use grub? [10:10] emma: because it is overkill [10:11] the default slackware install is like over 4 GB [10:11] emma: but for those who need it, say to dualboot FreeBSD, it is provied in the extra/ repository [10:11] slackware is not trying to be a minimal distro, is it? [10:11] nope [10:11] it is trying to be a lean but versatile distro [10:12] i dual boot with FreeBSD with lilo [10:12] lilo can boot anything grub can [10:12] Pig_Pen: yes, you just chainload the freebsd loader [10:12] i'm pretty sure slackware is trying to be whatever pat feels like :) [10:12] Pig_Pen: negatory, lilo cannot directly use the multiboot capabilities of freebsd [10:13] ananke: that too :P [10:13] well i just managed to get my first slackware installed, and I just managed to get it to go straight to the KDE login screen. [10:13] congrats :-) [10:13] would you guys recommend getting rid of root and setting up a superuser ? [10:13] what? [10:13] no no [10:13] root *is* the superuser [10:13] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-88-253.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [10:13] add a user [10:13] root is your "su" [10:13] you should set up a regular user for you own needs [10:13] what do you mean by 'getting rid of root'? [10:14] I thought it's not a good idea to run in root [10:14] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-234.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:14] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:14] ananke: having no root user, so that people can't attack my system and become root. [10:14] emma: run adduser [10:14] emma: all system have a root user.... [10:14] emma: even if root login has been disabled [10:15] emma: show me any other distro that has no root. [10:15] emma: you cannot have a UNIX system without a user with UID 0 [10:15] i've never seen any user named root on the other distro i've been using. [10:15] (aka, root) [10:15] emma: then you're very confused. every other distro has root [10:15] i guess i have seen processes owned by root. [10:15] emma: have you been using sudo? [10:15] but there is no way to login as root. [10:15] yes [10:15] sudo bash [10:16] there you go, root login [10:16] i think there's a way to rename root if you use SELinux but still the concept is the same, just renamed [10:16] Action: BP{k} wonders what distros emma *has* been using. [10:16] emma: sure there is. you just don't know how. and sounds like you've been using distros from the ubuntu family. [10:16] Hence: edit /etc/passwd and change root to fubar if you like [10:16] I feel it's not appropriate for me to say what other distro I was using, in here. [10:16] emma: sure it is [10:16] Oh well then I was using Ubuntu :) [10:16] That's my first linux :) [10:16] we guessed :P [10:16] i doubt anyone is going to crucify you. it's too late in the day and we're out of lumber 8-) [10:17] emma: that's _one_ distribution, not distributions. [10:17] on ubuntu, "sudo su" would give you root access [10:17] or simple sudo -s [10:17] that is why you know as little about what is *really* going on as the average windows user knows what is goign on in windows [10:17] and no, don't rename root. there are still applications that check for username rather than uid [10:17] ananke: wow? [10:18] macavity: i've seen plenty of scripts written by folks that check for username rather than uid [10:18] idiots [10:18] that is outright breakage of the POSIX [10:18] yep [10:19] remove only the asterisk * from the first line (root) in /etc/shadow in ubuntu and you can log in as root then use passwd to set a real root password for root [10:19] I still do use Ubuntu. It's a nice operating system for daily life. Really. And I do feel like I learned more about my computer and about Ubuntu than I ever did with Windows. But I am trying to push out of the comfort zone and become an intermediate user so I'm trying to use slackware. [10:19] emma: slackware will definitely force you to learn [10:19] emma, there always is root [10:19] emma, no such thing as getting rid of root [10:19] sudo -i == su - but you put a different password in, that's all [10:19] i found ubuntu too annoying [10:20] emma: hang around here and you will become more than an intermediate user in a rather short time [10:20] emma: oh, and study slackbook.org like the bible :P [10:20] cool :) [10:20] ubuntu assumes too much in thinking they know whats best for the user [10:20] hehe okay [10:20] anyone tried slackware on netbooks? [10:21] C00re: several people run Slackware on the EeePC [10:21] not yet; can you spare a netbook? [10:21] cool [10:21] works ok? [10:21] Pig_Pen: you are not typical of the general cohort of possible computer users. [10:21] yup [10:21] i belive that on 13.0 everything works out of the box [10:21] C00re: From what I heard most things work well with eeePC + 13.0 [10:21] nice [10:21] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:21] on 12.2 you had to do some hackery with kernel patches and whatnot [10:23] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] tux (n=tux@92.84.21.69) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:23] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [10:26] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:27] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-115-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:27] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-234.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:29] is the [0] index your way of saying you are away? :) [10:29] i think there is a channel rule about that [10:30] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:30] i could change my nick to Pig_Pen_Away and i wont get in trouble, what is against the rules in that autoaway feature that some irc clients have [10:31] Pigpen, try it [10:31] Nick change: Pig_Pen -> Pig_Pen_Away [10:31] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:31] Pig_Pen_Away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [10:31] mancha++ ;) [10:31] morning fun :P [10:31] Apok (n=element@202.190.85.201) joined ##slackware. [10:32] lol [10:32] kids these days :) [10:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Pig_Pen: Uhm, and you were saying? [10:32] lol! [10:32] Pig_Pen: luuulz [10:32] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Is there a command that shows what types of partitions? [10:32] that was spetacular [10:32] can we see it again? [10:32] heh sorry but the coffee wasn't enough needed a chuckle to full awaken [10:32] Pig_Pen: what slackboy said :) [10:32] tux_: fdisk -l? [10:32] hi guys [10:32] i thought that was just for those irc clients with that auto-away feature that would announce to the channel that you were away [10:33] tanks [10:33] nah, the trigger is less sophisticated :O [10:33] Pig_Pen: how is slackboy supposed to know the difference? [10:34] since there is a 0 tolerance, he cant sit around and time when it goes to away compared to last spoken statement [10:34] then use something different like Pig_Pen-not-here [10:34] Umm does anyone knows how to run OpenVZ in slackware 12.2 without too much hassle (etc: changing lilo to grub). I've tried to look for a decent documentation but it doesn't really help much. It would be very helpful if there's someone could point me to a good document that can assist on my problem. Thanks .. [10:34] tux_ (n=tux@92.85.31.199) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:34] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Pig_Pen: the entire point is that it is just noise [10:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Pig_Pen: if we speak to you and you dont reply, that means that you are either not here, or just dont care [10:35] we all make a little noise [10:36] the lights are on but nobody is home [10:36] true.. but if 1/3 of the chan did facebook like updates to their "status" via /nick, it would be even more hellish in here [10:36] i gotta go get a gallon of milk and a dozen eggs [10:36] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.152) left irc: "Leaving." [10:37] Pig_Pen: that will make a hell-of-a-omlet ;) [10:37] that has to last until next weekend [10:38] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-32-241.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [10:39] Pig_Pen: you on a diet or snowed in? [10:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [10:41] lol [10:42] or close to broke [10:42] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[10:59] BP{k}: ? [11:00] Pig_Pen: ? [11:01] Action: init[1] omg! its beatzz again :P [11:01] Apache2 dosent come w/ slakcware? [11:01] what makes you think that? [11:01] :O i knew i was forgeting one of my mentors! [11:01] two! [11:02] "httpd" I think [11:02] well /var/log/packages/apache* shows nothing [11:02] beatzz: yup [11:02] /var/log/packages/httpd* should [11:02] beatzz: /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd start [11:02] +x on that though :) [11:03] then i should be able to do http://www.localhost:80 [11:03] ? [11:03] beatzz: you don't have to specify the default port , [11:03] you better read /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd over just to see if there are any hints [11:04] hmm [11:04] i got some errors @ /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd start [11:04] ahh, proly need to do that as root eh? [11:04] not snowed in, not out of money, just budgeted [11:04] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-234.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:04] :D [11:04] All the hommies are here! [11:05] >_< [11:05] nice [11:05] first chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd [11:05] then /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd start [11:05] i did chmod +x rc.httpd [11:05] in the working dir [11:05] omg [11:05] ? [11:06] in /etc/rc.d/ ? [11:06] was cwd /etc/rc.d/? [11:06] roger [11:06] pwd* yes [11:06] ok, that ammounts to the same [11:06] exactly as i thought [11:06] Action: beatzz is evolving [11:06] evolution is full of dead ends ;-) [11:07] beatzz: cwd -current working dir... [11:07] :D IT WORKS!!! [11:07] http://127.0.0.1 [11:08] beatzz: congrats ;) now share you home folder there :P [11:08] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.72.243) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:09] init[1]: why? we can get our own goat pr0n :P [11:10] heh-heh [11:11] so, [11:11] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) joined ##slackware. [11:11] i can look it up on my localhost [11:11] but how can you guys view it? [11:11] macavity: i don't think he will have that ,instead 100+ ebooks on his Linux certification :D [11:11] http://My_WAN_Addres:80 ? [11:11] beatzz: forward port 80 in your router [11:12] beatzz: and again, you dont need to specify port 80 as that is the default port for http [11:12] remember to adjust allow in httpd.conf as i know [11:12] mk, so this, forwarding of port 80 to router.... [11:12] init[1]: you think he has linux cert books? then why is he asking page 1 textbook questions? [11:12] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [11:13] beatzz: no, the other way around [11:13] beatzz: forward port 80 in your router to your machine...... [11:13] macavity: hmm,yea that sounds logcial :) [11:13] robertf (n=frederic@vedra.tuxonet.be) joined ##slackware. [11:13] ok so i need to go into my router settings page, 192.168.1.1 [11:13] logical [11:13] Hello [11:14] hello robertf [11:14] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:14] i can't type anything in Xfce's terminal [11:14] 12.2 or 13.0? [11:14] macavity: 12.1 [11:14] i remember this bug, but i dont remember the workaround [11:14] I asked the problem to Xfce's channel.. [11:14] rworkman: you around? [11:15] macavity: how can i resolve the problem? [11:15] robertf: rworkman is the local XFCE guru [11:15] robertf: i couldn't remember if my life depended on it.. i use KDE [11:15] :O [11:15] i thought u only used CLI [11:16] shame on you... [11:16] its pretty lame to browse the net with links -g [11:16] pssh links -g ftw [11:16] not to mention that aaxine and pr0n looks like crap :P [11:17] there is more to life than pr0n [11:17] Hence: there is? [11:17] very strange, i cannot connect to 192.168.1.1 [11:18] it prompted me for the user/pw, but after that, nothing [11:18] beatzz: what's the IP address of you machine? [11:18] 192.168.1.x or 192.168.0.x? [11:18] 192.168.1.102 [11:19] are you on wireless or wired? [11:19] normaly 192.168.1.1 will take me to the routers setup page [11:19] wireless [11:19] most routers dont allow configuration via wireless [11:19] for good reasons.. idiots might pick WEP [11:19] i do it all the time -_- [11:19] use netstat -rn to know your GW [11:19] or unsecured [11:19] like my idiot neibors ..tehehe [11:20] robertf: be sure you have a valid shell defined in /etc/passwd [11:20] tux (n=tux@92.85.31.199) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [11:21] rworkman: there is no shell defined for the user... if i type echo $SHELL, it displays /bin/sh [11:21] beatzz: pong? [11:21] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] robertf: yeah, it's a terminal bug. [11:22] rworkman: May i added /bin/sh in passwd? [11:22] robertf: that will work. [11:22] BP{k}: just checkin up on the oG's [11:22] on the what?? [11:22] robertf: you probably want /bin/bash [11:22] the o-G's [11:22] The bug is fixed in a later release of Terminal, fwiw, but the easiest thing to do is just put a valid shell in /etc/passwd [11:22] `A user without a valid shell should not even be able to login [11:22] the original Gangsters [11:22] When I try to boot Slackware with grub I get this msg :error 15 :file not found .What can I do to fix the problem? [11:22] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.202.225.145) joined ##slackware. [11:22] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-169.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:22] old-gangsters, the gurus [11:22] alienBOB: well, POSIX says /bin/sh is default if one is not defined in /etc/passwd [11:23] rworkman++ [11:23] (I had this discussion with the Xfce folks) [11:23] rworkman: ok, thank you.. i'm adding it in /etc/passwd. [11:23] i'll be back in some minutes... [11:23] So, the answer would have been "you have no shell defined in /etc/passwd" instead of "no valid shell" [11:23] ah, yes. [11:23] rediculous. [11:24] i cant configure my router. [11:24] alienBOB: see, that's why I like you. Pedantic. :) [11:24] Pff [11:24] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:25] rworkman: It is working.. thank you all for you help [11:25] np [11:26] rworkman: when will the package updated? [11:27] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] tux_ (n=tux@92.85.29.143) joined ##slackware. [11:28] robertf: in 12.1? It won't. [11:28] robertf: you are using a many years old Slackware [11:28] Just upgrade to 13.0 [11:28] robertf: it's fixed in at least 13.0's Terminal [11:29] Hence (n=Threefol@211.180.33.9) left irc: "Leaving" [11:29] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: "Got some milk stuck in my teeth" [11:29] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Apok (n=element@202.190.85.201) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:30] sheer curiosity: anyone tried paq8 (the compressor) here? [11:32] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [11:33] rworkman: why it won't in 12.1? [11:33] i use 12.1 because the packages are already updated with security fixes & bugfixes [11:33] sorry i my knowledge in english is not good [11:33] robertf: because only critical bugfixes (generally security) go into the /patches directory of old releases [11:34] What kernel version is slack? [11:34] tux_: 13.0? [11:34] Tsk tsk [11:34] Run `uname -r` [11:34] slack 13.0 [11:35] tux_: do as alienBOB said [11:35] I am not on slack now. [11:35] You should be [11:36] I am testing cron with the command mplayer -loop 0 /home/me/mp3.mp3 as root and it won't start (i can run the command from terminal). in my regular user crontab it starts but it won't loop, it plays just once [11:36] tux_: do you have a browser ? then check the mirror :) [11:38] Can someone help with my bootloader.I can't boot my slackware. [11:38] Mibaezjr2k (n=Mibaezjr@adsl-85-32-213.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] How long do you purpose security fixes in slackware? [11:39] tux_: do you have the slackware dvd / cd with you [11:39] i didn't find this information in slackbook [11:39] Slackware 8.1 is still getting security fixes. But in general, only if it does not require large parts of an old Slackware to be updated as well [11:39] root (n=root@213.190.200.21) joined ##slackware. [11:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:39] root kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [11:39] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:40] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:40] ngomes (n=ngomes@213.190.200.21) joined ##slackware. [11:40] init[1]: yes, I have the cd. [11:40] hello , any WICD wizard here ? [11:40] i have sorta bug [11:41] tux_: if you are aware of the partition you have installed Slackware the on the boot prompt of DVD/CD type huge.s root=/dev/xxx ro [11:42] Is it the slackware official channel? [11:42] i can list some cell on console using iwlist eth1 scan , but fails to appear on wicd gui , shows as [11:42] tux (n=tux@92.85.31.199) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:42] <- WICD wizzard [11:42] ngomes: you have to upgrade your wicd, that is a known bug [11:43] alienBOB: i used one on extra/ slackware , is it outdated ? [11:44] 1.6.2.1 [11:44] ngomes: it has that bug you describe [11:44] Take wicd-1.6.2.2 from slackware-current [11:44] ill try slackpkg then [11:44] 1 moment [11:45] I get a hottbile sound when i run mplayer in the terminal [11:45] looks like extra/ wont work for current [11:46] ? [11:46] i cant slackpkg [11:46] Again, ? [11:46] Razec (i=1000@189-92-3-222.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:46] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [11:46] if extra from current were included i could update , i guess [11:46] Just download that package and use upgradepkg [11:46] ok [11:46] ngomes: change your /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf mirror to slackware-current [11:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:46] init[1]: NO NO [11:47] i think im on some current mirror [11:47] checking [11:47] ngomes: is that an old install that has seen an upgrade from 12.x to 13? [11:47] ngomes: stop [11:47] Unless you _want_ to upgrade to -current ngomes, do _not_ listen to init[1] [11:47] ngomes: i take that back [11:47] ngomes: i had a problem with old conffiles and hidden networks when i worked on a bug [11:48] hrad (i=4e888a18@gateway/web/freenode/x-zmxjrjplmnmzquzp) joined ##slackware. [11:48] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-116-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:49] i made a mistake. i wrongly set up mirror as 13.0 and not current. [11:49] ngomes : just hint read slackpkg.conf and delete hash at one mirror at slackware-current [11:49] and yes i want to use current [11:49] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:49] ngomes: is that a slackware 13 install you want to upgrade to -current? [11:50] hey, in 13.0, I'm part of plugdev group and I added plugdev to COSNOLE_GROUPS in /etc/login.defs, but automount still doesn't work [11:50] was a slack 13 install from usb using usbboot.img [11:50] and network install [11:50] tux_ (n=tux@92.85.29.143) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:50] ok, read the slackpkg manpage carefully on how to upgrade to -current [11:50] and dont just upgrade half [11:50] my laptop works great btw , compaq mini 311-1010c [11:51] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:51] only need to compile wireless drv [11:51] and nvidia [11:51] GPU [11:51] and remove mplayerthumbs by hand if you dont do a slackpkg --clean-system [11:51] bruc3 (n=bruc3@unaffiliated/bruc3) joined ##slackware. [11:51] how did you guys make slackware automount cdrom and usb ? [11:51] bruc3 (n=bruc3@unaffiliated/bruc3) left irc: Client Quit [11:52] and pretty much read the ChangeLog.txt for anything i might have missed [11:52] macavity: thanks, i know how to use slackpkg , just made a mistake confuring slackpkg mirror [11:52] hrad: i dont know how to do it in the console [11:52] ngomes: good, so you are aware that some packages have been removed and others have been added? [11:53] hrad: add your user to plugdev on /etc/group and should work [11:53] obviously lot of people have this issue on 13.0...on 12.1, 12.2 it was ok right after installation if the user was part of plugdev group [11:53] ngomes: he is trying to do it from the console apparently [11:53] ngomes: I did this right during installation [11:53] macavity: im not really into package list, but i trust pat and slackteam on pkg choices.btw if i need something else ill juist compile :-) [11:53] hrad: where do you want that to work when in console / de ? [11:54] haqe17_ (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:54] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:54] hrad: then mount -t auto /dev/sdaX /mnt [11:54] init[1]: I don't understand the question :) [11:54] ngomes: if goog up the order from 13 to -current you kde multimedia could get fubar'ed, and your icons could disapear [11:54] ngomes: so please, read the changelog :P [11:54] macavity: xfce here :) [11:54] still [11:55] ngomes: yes, but you can mount as root only, and you have to allways chown it for other users [11:55] hrad: ok,nvm, if you just added your self to plugdev in the current session the logout and login , [11:55] init[1]: I did of course [11:55] if you go -current and something fucks up on you that is mentioned in ChangeLog.txt we will laugh at you for asking :P [11:55] I'm part of plugdev since 13.0 came out [11:55] i went -current [11:55] and i know nothing [11:56] everything works peachie [11:56] hrad, just like 12.1 and 12.2, being in plugdev is enough [11:56] im hoping i can compile nvidia drv and wireless with latest kernel [11:56] well, shall i go see if i can get my new server up and running? [11:56] if not , im just gonna kick init[1] ass :-) [11:56] thrice`: http://lmf-ramblings.blogspot.com/2009/09/slackware-13-automount-usb-drive.html [11:57] ohh theres a question, can i ssh into a box, if there is no one currenty loged into that box? [11:57] thrice`: I don't think so, I have 13.0 on 3 machines, on is 64bit, and it's not enough for any of them [11:57] hrad: if you have done that then check out in thunar edit->preferc..->[tab advanced]{volume mount} [11:57] beatzz: yes. stupid question. [11:57] hrad: i assumed you are in xfce [11:58] beatzz: if ssh service is running on server , proprerly configured , u can [11:58] hrad, it is, I promise [11:58] Action: beatzz grumbles [11:58] beatzz: otherwise noone would be able to ssh into thir servers :P [11:58] *their [11:59] well my question is answered , thanks again guys [11:59] giuppy: why you wana kick my ass :( [11:59] ngomes: ^ [12:00] hrad, see for yourself - plug in a usb stick, and check the permissions on the device, and which groups own it [12:00] slackware team , dont forget to remove gxine and add a zip/rar gui for xfce [12:00] :) [12:00] ngomes: i still reccomend to rm /etc/wicd/wireless-settings.conf [12:00] haqe17_ (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [12:00] ngomes: that is how the whole mess went away for me [12:00] init[1]: I'm looking into dmesg, it's not mounted .... [12:00] http://pastebin.ca/1692703 [12:00] hrad remember to deny root user login via ssh [12:00] thrice`: root plugdev [12:00] init[1]: cause u made me see my error or configuriing slackpkg , and now im on current like i thought i was :) [12:01] hrad, see, plugdev users have permission :) [12:01] macavity: gonna do that right away , thanks [12:01] thrice`: for rw [12:01] ngomes: ah ,my pleasure :P [12:02] :) [12:02] bye , thanks a lot [12:02] quit [12:02] ngomes (n=ngomes@213.190.200.21) left irc: "leaving" [12:03] gnrp (n=gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) joined ##slackware. [12:03] thrice`: I hope we are talking about the same, my point is, have it automounted + some window pop-up for letting me open the folder, like it used to be in 12.1 / 12.2 [12:03] hrad: you dont expect the devices to automatically *mount* when you insert them? [12:03] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [12:03] hrad: that is actually not how it works.. the window pops up *before* it is mounted [12:03] macavity: I do :) it worked like that in 12.2, didn't it ? [12:03] at least that is how it works in KDE now adays [12:04] i dont remember it *ever* just mounting /media/cdrom/ out of the blue nowhere just because i inserted a CD [12:04] the mounting always happened at "click-time" :P [12:05] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [12:05] hrad: so you mean to say device mounts itself ? and you can see the contents ? [12:05] I see, so how do I get the pop-up window for me to click on it [12:05] i mean even though thunar shows up a window [12:05] KDE or XFCE? [12:05] impy (n=impy@97.60-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [12:05] KDE [12:06] if hald and udev are running it pops up by itself next to the [K] button [12:06] I can't execute this command in crontab mplayer -loop 0 /root/Music/navy.wav (as root). command owrs in terminal just fine [12:06] sorry, hald, udev and dbus [12:06] macavity: both are running [12:06] hrad: ok ,this is not a solution ,would you mind switching on to xfce to check if things are goin fine there ? [12:07] hrad: then either you did not do a full install, or you fiddled something odd, or you are not running slackware [12:07] macavity: dbus too [12:07] hrad: because the little critter jumps up on everyone else when they insert a CD/DVD or USB device [12:07] on 13.0 that is [12:08] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [12:08] macavity: I've installed slackware like 20 times, I did full installation on each 3 machines, I've checked users who start the X session are part of plugdev and cdrom group, but it really doesn't work on either of them [12:09] utterly strange [12:09] hrad: paste the fstab line for the cdrom device [12:09] hrad: would you mind doint that on xfce ? if its working there then is KDE issue that you may be facing [12:09] macavity: this supports me a bit http://lmf-ramblings.blogspot.com/2009/09/slackware-13-automount-usb-drive.html [12:11] how can we implement ipv6 on slackware .. i read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/x1017.html but my question how can choose inet6 addr: 2001:... Scope:Global value 2001:.... ? [12:11] im a member of "users floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev" and everything works here [12:11] init[1]: I have to go now, but if I don't solve it I'll try and let you know [12:11] thedoor (i=1002@200-168-116-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:11] hrad: ok :) [12:11] me too, exactly the same groups [12:11] odd [12:12] hrad: how about posting that line I asked for? [12:12] hrad: and do usb devices moutn correctly? [12:13] which one [12:13] I overlooked it [12:13] 09:09 < rworkman> hrad: paste the fstab line for the cdrom device [12:13] help [12:14] please state the nature of the slackware emergency. [12:14] lol [12:14] .. /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,ro 0 0 [12:14] BP{k}: ++ [12:14] 8:14 < Azeotrope> I can't execute this command in crontab mplayer -loop 0 /root/Music/navy.wav (as root). command owrs in terminal just fine [12:14] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:14] hrad: change that "owner" to "user" and it will work. [12:14] omg [12:14] hrad: CHANGES_AND_HINTS.txt addresses that. [12:14] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [12:15] rworkman++ [12:15] sorry, this looks you got me [12:15] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "buhbye" [12:15] rworkman, hai [12:15] straterra: ola [12:15] my fstab has the comented out [12:16] you mentioned me the other day...or something :O [12:16] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.56) joined ##slackware. [12:16] how goes you [12:16] macavity: what do i do? [12:16] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] teach me cosmic master [12:17] :o [12:17] straterra: it was an accident :) [12:18] Azeotrope: maybe you put it in a script and execute the name of that script? [12:18] Scuzz: that will work fine too [12:18] an accident? :( [12:18] i was jsut wondering if that would of helped him or not [12:18] Azeotrope: make sure you source /etc/profile so $PATH et al are set up correctly [12:18] I spose its not the first time [12:19] straterra: i thought you were used to be mentioned in the context of accidents by now? ;-) [12:20] straterra: tab fail [12:20] doh [12:21] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:23] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:23] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:26] Azeotrope: I just tried that. (using: 25 17 * * * /usr/bin/mplayer -loop 0 /home/michiel/mp3/brucehornsby/10_Crown_of_Jewels.mp3 ) and it works .. just fine [12:28] oobe (n=none@220.244.162.235) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [12:31] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [12:32] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [12:32] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) joined ##slackware. [12:34] How to install a cng.txz file? [12:34] Axius, cng.txz? is it a slackware package? [12:35] Azeotrope: if it is a slackware package (which would be realllly badly named); installpkg (but you need xz tools installed) [12:35] Axius: if that is a valid slackware package type 'installpkg cng.txz' as root [12:35] uhm tabfail .. Axius ^^^^ [12:35] `tar -tvf cng.txz|less` do you see an install/ directory? [12:36] init[1]: it can't be a valid slackware package. ;) [12:36] impy (n=impy@97.60-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [12:37] BP{k}: mine won't work [12:37] BP{k}: yea i know , thats the main reason why is started off with _if_ :P [12:37] Axius, and do NOT do what init[1] said unless you are 100% sure it is a valid slackware package [12:37] Axius: where did you download that from if I may ask? [12:37] edman007: didn't i mention that ? [12:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:38] I want to install this package sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.txz [12:38] o_O [12:38] init[1], you did not make it harsh enough [12:38] edman007: :) ,i think i should have underlined _if_ [12:39] Axius: then why didn't you say so in the first place? [12:39] sorry [12:39] Axius: it is a valid one , [12:39] Action: BP{k} calls upon slackphorism #1 [12:39] init[1], you should have buffered it with 3 lines of warnings and death threats before making the statement [12:39] lol [12:40] What should I do then to install it? [12:40] edman007: i i caption , next sure i will , [12:40] Axius: installpkg(8) [12:40] Axius: scroll back [12:41] jgor (i=jgor@rrcs-67-78-117-190.sw.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:42] Axius: what version of slackware are you running? [12:42] it does not work. [12:42] slack 13.0 [12:42] Axius: did you do that as root? [12:42] YDIW. [12:43] init[1]: yes [12:44] Axius: and can you give slightly more information than "does not work"? [12:44] Cannot install sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.gz: file does not end in .tgz, .tbz, [12:44] Axius: i will be more specific, 'installpkg ./sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.txz' if sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.txz is in current working directory [12:44] .tlz, or .txz [12:44] linne (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Hi, I have a quick question... Where should I install the application truecrypt ? ... in /opt or in /var ??... [12:45] Axius: "rm sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.gz ; wget -c http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.tgz && installpkg http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.tgz" [12:46] ack .. scratch that installpkg command :) "installpkg sbopkg-0.31.0-noarch-1_cng.tgz" [12:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.86.145) joined ##slackware. [12:46] how do you mount /proc again? [12:46] linne: use the slackbuild [12:46] impy (n=impy@97.60-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [12:47] Razec (i=1000@189-92-3-222.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:48] Mibaezjr2k: mount -t proc /proc /media/floppy/ ? [12:48] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [12:49] BP{k}: thanks, it worked. [12:49] Axius: of course. ;) [12:50] Scuzz, no luck with that one on this 64bit... I need to compile it by hand.. [12:50] mount /proc should be enough if it is in /etc/fstab [12:50] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@83.225.119.231) joined ##slackware. [12:51] init[1]: why mount proc on /media/floppy/? [12:51] linne: "no luck", what didn't work? [12:51] BP{k}: just in case if we wanated to mount else where [12:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:51] Nick change: |CtrlAltCa| -> CtrlAltCa [12:51] BP{k}, missing too much gtk stuff... [12:52] s/we/he/ [12:52] linne: did you instally cryptoki and wxGTK? [12:52] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [12:53] BP{k}, it's not hte case about how to install, just where... I perfer to do the make WX_ROOT... install... [12:53] /opt or /var... I want to aviod the lock issue ... can't remember which one [12:55] a music player for the console? [12:56] xmms2 or amp . [12:56] a co-herent question? [12:56] mpg123, mpg321. [12:56] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] jimboo (n=peter@212.183.140.49) joined ##slackware. [12:57] Axius: mplayer would also work fine [12:57] thanks [12:57] Axius: if you need more go for cmus [12:57] cmus is awesome [12:59] yeah I will install cmus. [12:59] deco: cmus is not awesome its a musicplayer ,awesome is a WM :P [12:59] -_- [13:00] cat + ethernet switch = disaster [13:00] again [13:00] I like the playlist management in xmm2 [13:00] otherwise mplayer is just fine [13:01] linne (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:01] linXea (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:04] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [13:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [13:09] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) joined ##slackware. [13:10] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) joined ##slackware. [13:15] jgor (i=jgor@rrcs-71-42-72-54.sw.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Pabl0Escobar: <_<. So hows life on the other side? [13:18] maybe1 (n=may_be@196.202.27.173) left ##slackware. [13:20] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.18.104) left irc: Client Quit [13:25] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:26] linXea (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:26] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3008A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [13:27] Anyone got an intel 5300 agn working with slackware's iwl5000 firmware package? [13:27] Mine just sits there saying "Disassociating by local reason =3" or similar. :( [13:28] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) joined ##slackware. [13:31] nvision (n=nvision@g225048081.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:32] nope, pretty sure mine's a 4000 and works fine. does your wifi work in other distros? [13:32] eviljames: Yes. I've been on at least 4 other distros with it working fine, with WPA2. It's probably misconfiguration on my part somewhere. [13:33] does ifconfig -a show the wireless device? [13:34] thrice`: Yeah. It shows up, I can access it, I can scan with it. But if I try to connect to my WPA2 AP, it screams at me with that error up there. [13:34] use iwconfig [13:35] also, food for thought, wicd-client detects my AP with the ssid of "hidden", except my ssid is "dd-wrt" :o [13:35] tripFantstic: ... With wpa2? :\ [13:35] robinetd, upgrade wicd to that in -current, it should fix it [13:36] thrice`: This happened even not using wicd, just wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd. [13:36] I mean, not the ssid part. [13:36] then it's your configuration :) obviously the firmware is doing its job of making the interface available [13:36] But the connecting to the AP failing part happened with wpa_supplicant too. :o same reason. [13:37] hmmm, what's the syntax to create a split-tar? I f34r the info page and the man page doesn't mention it [13:37] thrice`: But this is where I get fuzzy. I've got the same configuration on gentoo and it works fine. [13:37] by configuration, you mean wpa_supplicant.conf ? [13:37] Yeah. [13:37] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] ok, how are you invoking wpa_supplicant + dhcpcd ? [13:37] I've even done a copy pasta job of it, no dice. [13:38] thrice`: wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B && dhcpcd wlan0; [13:38] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:38] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.44) left irc: [13:38] Then dhcpcd just hangs there, I check dmesg and it shows that wpa_supplicant keeps disassociating. [13:39] dhcpcd -d is your friend [13:39] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:39] huh; your command looks perfect. if you're positive the config files are identical, I'm not sure [13:39] ananke: It's not a dhcp problem. [13:39] robinetd: i never said it was [13:40] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [13:40] Dhcp can't get the address because wpa_supplicant can't associate with my ap. :o [13:40] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:40] thrice`: Indeed. Maybe I'll try again later. Got frustrated and blasted my slack install :\ [13:41] well, that'll make troubleshooting a little challenging [13:41] Unfortunately. :p [13:43] Before I go and install slack again, is there a way to have per-ssid ip settings? E.g, for dd-wrt ssid I want a static ip but for all others, I want dynamic. [13:44] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [13:44] I'll re-read the slackbook soon, don't have a web browser worthy of using installed yet. :\ [13:44] yes robinetd [13:45] jg71: gracias :) [13:45] well ... depends on the AP. if you can get your hands on its dhcp config, then yes. you can set ip according to mac, f.e. really depends on the AP [13:46] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [13:46] I'm the one who owns the AP in question ^_^ [13:49] Her0 (n=JKemp@63.77.95.18) joined ##slackware. [13:50] Need a bit of help, installed slackware on laptop, chose not to setup networking at time and now it's not reading wireless card. Also i'm not sure what KDE's equivelant to Gnomes Network-Manager since im new to KDE [13:52] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [13:54] Her0: network manager isn't a gnome thing. It's a daemon that just needs a client. Unfortunately, since the rise of kde4, I don't think there is a network manager client for kde. :\ [13:55] robinetd: there is [13:55] NaCl: Really? :o [13:55] Her0: NM currently does not work in Slackware [13:55] robinetd: yeah, there's a plasmoid. [13:55] In 4.3, I think [13:55] Neato. Guess they realized that having 80% of network manager integrated without a UI was pretty stupid. [13:57] Her0: try wicd [13:57] It does most of what NM does [13:57] It's in extra/ [13:57] wicd is pretty nice [13:58] As long as you don't need to connect to more than one network at a time [13:58] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) joined ##slackware. [13:58] I prefer that network connections are started on a daemon-level thing, so if I restart X, I don't lose my connection. Gets frustrating. [13:59] Gentoo and archlinux have something similar. Not sure about slack, still figuring things out over here. [13:59] Slackware has networking init scripts. [13:59] Just calls dhcpcd and wpa_supplicant, if necessary. [14:00] Downside is that I can't see realtime statistics on the connection using a GUI but meh. [14:00] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@190.191.51.54) joined ##slackware. [14:00] NaCl: Snap. That's what gentoo's scripts do. [14:01] look at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [14:01] NaCl: Blasted my slack install earlier. Will do when I get it back though. [14:01] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] k [14:02] Sorry was in another window NaC , yes i was told that. [14:03] So is there no connection manager of any sort/script that can connect me to wireless ? I was told Slackware mainly uses network scripts. Which is fine i just need a connection to dl wvdial for my broadband card, and wicd [14:03] Slack dvd just got up and vanished too. :( dvd-- [14:04] Oh, sorry didn't read ur other msg [14:04] Will do, similiar to arch then =), Thats good. [14:06] Axius_ (n=fim@92.85.29.143) joined ##slackware. [14:06] Axius (n=fim@92.85.29.143) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] Her0 (n=JKemp@63.77.95.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:08] patrick where are you I love youuuu [14:09] fredoslack: you scared him away. [14:09] Mibaezjr2k (n=Mibaezjr@adsl-85-32-213.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: "You´ll never see all the places, or read all the books, but fortunately, they´re not all recommended." [14:10] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Camarade_Tux, tu peux traduire stp [14:10] Je l'ai raté [14:10] it's this ? [14:10] :'( [14:10] it's that * [14:10] no ^^ [14:10] ouf =) [14:10] fredoslack: he said "tu l'as effrayé" [14:10] LOL BP{k} [14:10] ==== [14:10] =) [14:11] i/o @ fredoslack Camarade_Tux [14:11] Hi here, mohaa [14:11] stop woling [14:12] everytime you do that, 3 kittens die :( [14:12] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.175) left irc: "Leaving" [14:12] lol [14:12] /o\ [14:12] http://213.251.161.65/pub/lol.gif [14:12] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-169.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] BP{k}: Your name sounds vaguely familiar. [14:12] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] ppk [14:13] fantastic gun [14:13] robinetd: oh? [14:13] icarus_ (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) joined ##slackware. [14:13] it't possibile to use isolinux instead of /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.5-slitaz to boot the system? [14:13] BP{k}: Yar, didn't you used to be a gentooligan? [14:13] robinetd: hell no. :) [14:14] BP{k}: hehe. I wonder where I've seen you. [14:14] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Anyone know where the files dealing with default character encoding etc resides ? [14:14] hiya fire|bird [14:14] heya hitest, how are you? [14:14] fredoslack: howdy :) [14:14] robinetd: in the street I think, he was dressed as a hooker -_- [14:15] I am well, fire|bird, ty:) how are you today? [14:15] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.175) joined ##slackware. [14:15] icarus_, if charset see :etc/profile.d/lang.*sh [14:15] hitest: I'm great, thank you. [14:15] Camarade_Tux: Nah, I don't want HIV. [14:16] robinetd: I never said you were doing anything more than passing by... :P [14:16] nice, thanks mohaa :) [14:16] birdy! [14:16] y0 Camarade_Tux :) [14:16] robinetd: hmm no idea tbh. I have been on various networks. [14:16] Camarade_Tux: omfg, I've been found out :o [14:16] BP{k}: oftc? [14:16] robinetd: /win 1 [14:16] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:16] bah. [14:16] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [14:16] fail [14:17] robinetd: possible. I hang out in some channels there, mainly #linode. [14:17] BP{k}: Not really win. Only channel I've ever been in on oftc was #debian. :p [14:18] robinetd: that's bad for your health. You know that right. ;) [14:18] BP{k}: Well, I was using debian for my server for a while. Then I whiped it with freebsd. Now it's just sitting there off because I'm too lazy to whipe that. xD [14:19] freebsd isn't bad if you know how to use it. Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to RTFM atm. [14:20] Action: robinetd runs off to go reburn slack13. [14:20] robinetd, freebsd is cooler than slackware [14:20] :> [14:20] plus the doc is just clear [14:20] no bullsh!t [14:20] mohaa: Yeah, tell that to the constant 403 I get served by apache. [14:20] robinetd: I was a freebsd user and ran a dual boot w Slackware, but, I now run Slackware exclusively. [14:20] :D [14:21] mohaa: It's a perms issue, to lazy to figure it out though. [14:21] plus when you run that as desktop :( [14:21] you loose friends [14:21] hitest: Got annoyed by the retardation? [14:22] make fetch-recursive doesn't even fetch all deps. xD [14:22] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:22] Action: icarus_ cannot see why people would want to split their brains in half with two sets of knowledge for doing the same thing (by using BSD and Linux) [14:22] icarus_: masochism, shit and giggles? [14:22] icarus_: E.g, you like linux but your boss wants bsd on his servers. [14:22] robinetd: got tired of linux-flash segfaulting on linux-opera. Slackware does the job for me. [14:23] hitest: Curious. I've just switched to Opera because flash doesn't crash there for me. unlike firefox :) [14:23] hitest: Why opera? :o Chromium is win. [14:23] icarus_: not the same, actualu, linux has bigger possibilities atm [14:24] icarus: did it because I could. it is a fun thing to experiment with. For me FreeBSD is a bit too rough around the edges as a desktop. [14:24] s/actualu/actually/ [14:24] Last I tried opera was 10 beta. Too bulky of an interface. And I don't need an irc and mail client in my browser. [14:24] robinetd: I found that linux-opera segfaulted less than the freebsd native version of firefox [14:26] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:26] psychonautlibIII (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:26] fredoslack, the enhacer plugin you talked about looks awesome [14:27] thou it's not free :> [14:27] anyway it is good to try out other OSs because then you remember how truly amazing Slackware is. Ran Arch for a week as well. [14:28] same for compression: try paq8 and enjoy xz :) [14:28] I just got annoyed at arch because of its crapload of different package management schemes. [14:28] (try nanozip too) [14:28] ABS. pacman. Yaourt. seriously, wtf. [14:28] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:28] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] robinetd: I found Arch to be relatively stable, but, too bleeding edge for my tastes. pacman had updates *all the time* [14:30] Guest83861 (n=_@c146167.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [14:30] hitest: I liked arch. I just hated the way they handled a lot of things. [14:30] yeah [14:31] quite a fast system [14:31] not for me tho [14:31] IIRC, they name the kernel at install "kernel26.img". No matter what version it is. [14:31] That's just stupid. [14:34] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[14:47] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [14:47] Personally I've just started using TexMaker ( a QT4 app ) - but I was just checking to see if there were some other options I should explore before the final decision [14:48] light editing? vim is meant for heavy editing :P [14:49] and emacs for heavy injuries [14:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:51] http://www.nojhan.net/geekscottes//strips/geekscottes_133.svg @ Camarade_Tux [14:51] Camarade_Tux: vim is the only terminal editor I know (as in: know how to use at all) but.. All those modes.. I find it very annoying in the long run :/ [14:52] try emacs :D [14:53] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Started on it once.. Got killed in their tutorials.. Come to think of it.. I personally believe that emacs is to blame for all those quick-button events in games today. Those chained button presses to unlock functionality seem a lot like it ;) [14:54] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.4) left irc: No route to host [14:54] try notepad? :D [14:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [14:55] leafpad [14:55] Not notepad, god no! Awful piece of software ;) But yea, I'll stick to gui.. [14:56] http://www.geany.org/ ^^ [14:56] like that one... but vim still iz king [14:57] And that's a serious "I work faster/easier in VIM than any gui tool" statement or mainly nostalgia combined with a loathing of all things X ? :D [14:57] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:59] gvim -y [14:59] -_- [14:59] I can't be nostalgic, I'm too young for that [14:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:00] usr13 (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:00] exit [15:01] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-32-241.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:01] anyone know what slack default's a pcmcia device to in /dev/ ? [15:01] usr13: /quit [15:01] usr13 (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) left irc: Client Quit [15:01] i inserted a 5gb pcmcia device. got to be able to mount it [15:01] checked dmesg? [15:02] tgm (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:02] just pcmcia0.0 listed [15:02] ls [15:02] tgm (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) left irc: Client Quit [15:02] Action: Camarade_Tux loves tgm/usr13 ^^ [15:04] e-love ? And here I thought the internet was a cold and treacherous place filled with plenty of riches and software [15:05] this channel is love :) [15:05] fire|bird: I love you [15:05] see? [15:06] tgm (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:06] tgm (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) left ##slackware. [15:06] Are the following permissions equivalent for a directory? rwx---rwx and rwxrwxrwx. I thought they were but it doesnt seem so [15:07] :) [15:07] tgm (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:10] tank-man: you are aware that permissions are organized in a OWNER-GROUP-EVERYBODY fashion and that rwxrwxrwx translates to: Read/Write/Execute for Owner/Group/Everybody [15:11] I had the following permissions for a subdir rwx---rwx and couldnt access the jpgs inside, i had to change it to rwxrwxrwx for the subdir [15:11] *on a web site [15:12] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:12] I thought having it as for Others was enough [15:13] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:13] tank-man: strange, can't say that I can explain why. [15:14] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:14] I just tried this on my local pc, chmod u-r,o+r somefile; cat somefile <-- Permission denied [15:15] were you root? [15:15] tank-man: the most specific set of permissions apply [15:15] just me [15:16] if you are the owner of a file, the owner permissions apply. You set "u-r" which means "remove read permission from owner" [15:16] well then unless yourself has permission to somefile then you cant chmod it [15:16] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] lotec: his chmod worked fine, it's "cat somefile" that failed (as it should have) [15:16] Guest83861 (n=_@c146167.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Client Quit [15:17] sup slackers. [15:17] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:17] xandrix (n=xandrix@dsl-156-219.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:17] psychonautlibIII (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:17] xandrix (n=xandrix@dsl-154-219.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:17] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:18] greetings [15:18] impy (n=impy@88.147.70.16) joined ##slackware. [15:18] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:18] hi [15:22] Whenever I try to stream video, music etc over the network I download it to /tmp ... I wish to stream without "downloading" it first... where do I change that ? [15:23] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:23] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Success [15:24] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:25] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-162-69.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Trying to use slackpkg and getting You do not have any mirror selected in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [15:26] And i've uncommented a mirror already =( [15:26] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:27] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving." [15:27] Her0: make sure you don't have a space in front of the un-commented mirror [15:28] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [15:28] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:28] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:29] K [15:30] when the space is removed it should work [15:30] uva (i=bno@118-160-165-24.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:30] Oh pity, it worked, feel retarded now. Thanks! [15:30] LoL [15:30] np [15:30] The stupid little things that screw pple up :S [15:31] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:31] After running slackpkg update i get cp: cannot stat `/tmp/slackpkg.GkCkZl/CHECKSUMS.md5': No such file or directory [15:31] Package descriptions [15:31] Formatting lists to slackpkg style... [15:31] Channel flood from Her0 -- kicking [15:31] Package List [15:31] cp: cannot stat `/tmp/slackpkg.GkCkZl/*-filelist.gz': No such file or directory [15:31] Her0 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:32] Her0 (n=jkemp@63.77.95.18) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Sorry pasted on accident more.... ran slackpkg update and get /tmp/slackpkg Checksums no such file etc [15:33] disk full, perhaps? [15:33] did you choose the correct mirror for your version of slackware? [15:33] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:33] normally slackpkg seems to "just work", but when it doesn't, it doesn't always give you the friendliest error messages... [15:33] yes, 13.0 [15:33] okay [15:34] try it again, maybe a network hick-up [15:34] A USA mirror...i could try another but it was the fastest mirror for that version IN us [15:34] can you pastebin the entire output of slackpkg? [15:34] (www.pastebin.ca or such, *not* paste in here!) [15:34] It finished w/e else it was doing those messages just popped up on the end. [15:34] yeah np [15:35] bbl [15:35] Okay 1 sec i'll past the errors [15:35] the whole output, not just the errors [15:35] Okay [15:35] (something that might look irrelevant, could turn out to be the key to the problem...) [15:36] http://pastebin.ca/1692988 [15:37] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:37] josemanuel (n=josemanu@49.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:37] There's the pastebin link to the errors [15:37] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-59-27-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:37] hm, weird [15:38] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) left irc: "i be back!" [15:38] Perhaps try a different mirror ? [15:38] eh, well, I thought you might have been overlooking something important, but if so I'm overlooking it too... [15:39] LoL [15:39] Yes im usually very competent and able to figure things out on my own, but today just isn't my day [15:39] Her0: yeah, maybe try another mirror [15:39] you have the same trouble with other mirrors? [15:40] Have not tried, but i will now and let ya know [15:40] I just updated from easynews yesterday in fact, it worked fine... hm. [15:41] Nope same problem on diff mirror. Perhaps b/c im on public wifi, network block etc [15:42] doubt that [15:42] Well...that sux =p [15:42] "file not found" doesn't sound like it's caused by a network-related problem [15:42] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:42] Yeah, it does make connection just fine so i guess i should've known that =P [15:44] you may have junk in /var/lib/slackpkg, could try cleaning it out [15:44] rm -rf /var/lib/slackpkg/* [15:44] k [15:44] Retry update? [15:44] next time you run slackpkg update, it will have to download all the various files (as though it had never been run before) [15:44] so yeah [15:45] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Same error... [15:46] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [15:46] No getting checksums Packages.txt and *-filelist.gz but is it getting everything else ?? [15:46] hi [15:46] Her0: that's using easynews, or did you also change mirrors? [15:47] I also changed mirrors this time its using ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu [15:47] Did u want me to try on easynews AND with junk cleared ? [15:48] hey, ive seen this error before [15:48] cp: cannot stat `/tmp/slackpkg.jYM00A/CHECKSUMS.md5': No such file or directory [15:48] Mine? =P [15:48] yep [15:48] there was someone in here the other day with the same problem [15:48] we never found a workaround :-/ [15:48] lol [15:48] :-( Thanks for that boost of hope ... lol [15:48] we tried everything from file permission on /var to whatever [15:49] and on /tmp too [15:49] jimboo (n=peter@212.183.140.49) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:49] for some odd reason the tempfiles gets removed before slackpkg actually get to use them [15:49] rworkman: ping? [15:49] PiterPunk: ping? [15:50] Her0: no, this is good news.. the other user came across as a bit of a ricer, so i suspected that he had just borken his system somehow [15:50] Idk right now its a pain in my a** [15:50] lol [15:50] Her0: but since you can attest the exact same error, we now know that it is a bug [15:51] you did make a full install right? [15:51] Her0: and at tmp, *-filelist.gz and PACKAGES.txt exists ? [15:51] (please say yes :P) [15:51] Yay me. Yes it installed no probs only thing out of sync was i didn't setup network on install [15:51] Other than that worked fine, did full install (plan to rm some shizz though later) etc. [15:52] archaeogeek_ (n=agnostic@bas7-montreal28-1178023472.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:52] @x-ip not on mine i assumed possibly it meant on the mirror. =P [15:52] ok, PiterPunk is one of the main devs of slackpkg, so he should probably know how to debug this [15:53] Is he on? [15:53] Her0: better generate an strace to have ready for our over loards :P [15:53] Her0: strace slackpkg update > tracefile.txt [15:53] Nick change: archaeogeek_ -> archaeogeek [15:53] Done [15:54] =) [15:54] archaeogeek (n=agnostic@bas7-montreal28-1178023472.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [15:54] i hope he is on.. we dont see him entirely as much as we'd like, but he comes around every so often [15:54] archaeogeek (n=agnostic@bas7-montreal28-1178023472.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:54] Her0: and you answered Y like in the pastebin? [15:55] Yep [15:55] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-32-241.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [15:55] I g2g for now but i'll be back on in like 12 minutes... [15:55] roger [15:55] Ty for your help. See ya then. [15:55] :-) [15:55] Her0 (n=jkemp@63.77.95.18) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] What version of slackpkg? [15:56] ah.. [15:56] he didnt say.. i took 13 for granted [15:56] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [15:57] I've seen something similar in PiterPUNK's not-yet-released-and-I-don't-think-he's-shared-it-publicly-version, but who knows [15:57] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:58] i dont remember the user name of the last who reported this [15:58] but he ran the same version as me: slackpkg-2.80.2 [15:58] Action: macavity cant remember if -current and 13.0 has the same version [15:59] macavity: slackpkg-2.80.2-noarch-3 ? [15:59] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-197-247.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:59] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:59] alienBOB: affirmative [16:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] alienBOB: but again, my version doesnt really matter, as i dont have the above problem [16:00] slackie (n=x@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [16:00] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:01] archaeogeek (n=agnostic@bas7-montreal28-1178023472.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [16:01] good night [16:01] Well I do not have it either and so do most other people [16:01] anyhow, i have to go put the laundry on, ill be back roughly at the same time as Her0 [16:01] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [16:01] It must be something the guy did *not* have installed - i.e. not a full Slackware installation [16:02] he claims that the only thing he did not do "according to the book" was to configure is network by hand after first boot [16:02] and he claims full instal [16:02] rworkman: not the same problem [16:03] the other user who had this problem was came across as unreliable, so figured he had just messed up his /tmp or /var permissions [16:03] anyway, he will be back shortly.. he said "like 12 minutes" :P [16:03] hahah [16:04] I bet he has edited his slackpkg.conf and messed up the PRIORITY variable [16:04] Hi there PiterPunk [16:05] Any chance of your latest slackpkg being released soon? [16:05] john_dee (n=id@95-29-146-226.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:06] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] oh [16:08] alienBOB: yes. Need to apply two small fixes and release it as beta [16:08] how do I fix the problem with fixed font showing up on yahoo [16:08] PiterPunk: ill give it a spin :P [16:09] alienBOB: how would editing $PRIORITY cause tempfiles to get lost in /tmp? [16:10] this is his error: http://pastebin.ca/1692988 [16:10] very funny the guy have anything erased on /tmp [16:10] /tmp isn't cleaned [16:12] PiterPunk: the files are created with /usr/bin/tempfile, right? [16:12] hmmm CHECHSUMS.md5 isn't being downloaded [16:12] mktemp [16:12] Without downloading it, seems to be very reasonable that it is not found -:) [16:13] I get very odd fonts when surfing yahoo and sourcforge [16:14] TClayton (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:14] need to go dinner [16:14] elliot98, are you using a non-english locale? [16:14] the good path to search for problems is in why the file isn't downloaded. [16:14] en_US.UTF8 [16:14] see you later [16:14] hmm [16:14] g'bye! [16:14] it shows up really small [16:14] later :-) [16:15] with some odd fixed font [16:15] I saw there was some talk about it [16:15] on google, but couldn't make heads or tails of it [16:15] what encoding does FF think those pages are? [16:15] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [16:15] I've had some funny fonts sometimes on japanese pages [16:16] well, funny english, the japanese is fine [16:16] I don't think it's an encoding problem, if I unlick FF for pages to choose their own fonts, it took what I chose [16:16] but I'd prefer whatever the pages chose [16:17] it's like Slackware can't find the fonts so it chooses some fixed font [16:18] http://beej.us/slackware/msftfonts/ [16:18] something about a clean font [16:18] kind of confused about this [16:19] slack 13 should have pretty much all the fonts, but most of the international fonts have terrible ASCII [16:19] usually it's smart enough to use the "best" font for a particular codepoint [16:19] I'm back on 12.1 [16:20] not yet ready for KDE4 [16:20] slack 13 and KDE4 are not all that related to each other, besides the fact that it's what's on the disc [16:20] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.18.104) joined ##slackware. [16:20] you mean I can run KDE3 with 13? [16:21] sure you can [16:21] guess I understood Slackware website wrong [16:21] anyway, on 12.1, things are problamatic [16:21] do you know what "clean" font is? [16:21] never had that kind of trouble [16:22] I'll see if I can get a screenshot [16:22] later! [16:22] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [16:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:27] when Her0 comes back, can someone give him this: http://pastebin.ca/1693055 [16:28] its the transscript of the conversation that took place just after he left.. he probably wants to see it [16:28] Action: macavity wanders off to do the laundry [16:28] what do you guys think about disabling login for root? [16:28] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [16:28] ive made another user for my daily activities. [16:29] do people who use slackware ever install sudo? [16:29] slackware comes with sudo, so yeah, lots of us [16:29] hehe [16:29] do you ever use it? [16:29] and yeah, I use sudo a lot [16:29] okay cool [16:29] I personally wouldn't disable root logins from the console though [16:30] doesnt that constitute a security risk? [16:30] though I do like disabling root logins over ssh [16:30] is that handled in /etc/passwrds? [16:30] eh, well, in my case, nobody who lives here would (a) care about breaking into my box, or (b) have any idea what to do with root access if they did have it :) [16:30] hi [16:30] can someone tell me what module to load so my lapi recognizes my sd card reader (internal) ? [16:31] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Urchlay: my slackware is running in a virtual machine, doesn't that make it quite difficult to access through ssh already? [16:31] emma: what, root logins on the console? Probably best to leave /etc/passwd alone, and edit /etc/securetty instead (comment out all the console and tty lines) [16:32] emma: depends on how you have your vm's networking set up [16:32] Urchlay: no i was thinking about disabling root login through ssh, that sounds like a good idea to me too. [16:32] yeah [16:32] niels_horn (n=niels@189.106.102.155) joined ##slackware. [16:32] so maybe that's a setting in sshd.conf i'll look around [16:32] actually it might be disabled by default in slack 13 [16:33] add "PermitRootLogin no" to /etc/ssh/sshd.conf, and "/etc/rc.d/rc.sshd restart" [16:33] I honestly have no idea whether it came that way or if I edited the file myself [16:35] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-197-247.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:35] its /etc/ssh/sshd_config and root login is enabled by default [16:35] Nick change: har_ -> har [16:36] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:36] in 12 [16:36] man I should actually read stuff before I say anything [16:36] I know nothing [16:36] don't listen to me! [16:36] where do you guys stick your w32codecs ? [16:36] Where the sun don't shine [16:37] lol [16:37] alienBOB: did you make them executable there? [16:37] ha-ha [16:37] *headdesk* [16:38] ... [16:38] so, is everyone ready to go back to work monday [16:38] ? [16:38] beatzz: what a rotten thing to say [16:38] :p [16:38] reality hurts [16:40] i am.. i hate sittin around the house like this [16:40] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [16:41] I enjoy my days off [16:41] i can handle 1 or 2 days off, but after that it starts gettin old [16:41] stamp (n=stamp@chello087206233091.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:41] you must not have as an aggravating job as I do. [16:41] I could handle a few more days at home at least. [16:42] Her0 (n=jkemp@174-158-231-83.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] yep [16:42] Back. =) [16:42] well, my job is actualy very stress free [16:42] but i work 1 on 1 with a total duche bag [16:42] yeah mine is the opposite kind :) [16:42] yeah, sshd_config, not sshd.conf [16:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:42] memory fails me [16:42] so it kinda sucks there [16:42] beatzz: you're lucky [16:43] i load/unload a truck... [16:43] copiers, motorcycles, medical freezers, and such [16:45] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:46] Any luck getting hold of dev Urchlay ? [16:47] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.151.193) joined ##slackware. [16:48] so ctrl+h is the alternate to the backspace key [16:48] but what is the alternate to forward backspace? [16:48] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [16:50] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-71-178.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] forward space? [16:51] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@190.191.51.54) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [16:52] Her0: from macavity: [16:52] http://pastebin.ca/1693055 [16:52] "forward backspace"? [16:53] does icarus by chance mean the delete key? :P [16:53] Xires012 (n=Xires@66.190.79.122) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:53] fire|bird: yeah, like the del key [16:53] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.245) joined ##slackware. [16:54] ctrl-D seems to work [16:54] i think that's a readline key combination [16:54] or left-arrow then backspace (which is what I generally do) [16:54] i don't know if thatcounts :) [16:54] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] err, right-arrow then backspace [16:54] ooh yeah it is ctrl-D [16:54] i wonder why thats not the default in vim [16:55] ctrl-H works fine in vim [16:55] but ctrl-D doesn't [16:55] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [16:55] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [16:55] like i said, Ctrl+D is a readline combination in emacs mode [16:55] because ctrl-D is an emacs-style key binding, and vim isn't emacs [16:55] (bash isn't emacs either, but its command-line editing mimics emacs by default) [16:56] anyway, you shouldn't be wishing for a delete key in insert mode in vim. Instead, hit escape to get out of insert mode... then the delete key is x [16:56] its a messed up world, i tell you [16:56] btw, i have bash configured in vi mode [16:56] yeah but thats 2 more keystrokes than need be [16:57] pretty much any editing more complex than just pressing backspace once, should be done in command mode (not insert mode) in vim [16:57] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-59-27-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:57] also you have stuff like "dw" for "delete word" (instead of hitting the delete key enough times to delete a whole word) [16:58] nice thing about that also is that dw is a single operation, so you only have to hit u once to undo it [16:58] rg3: I tried to learn to love vi mode in bash (I love vim, so why not?), but it never really grew on me [16:58] in emacs mode that's M-d [16:59] i work on solaris boxes 8 hours a day and they all have ksh in vi mode [16:59] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) left ##slackware. [17:00] so i started using vi mode at home when i started to get sick of hitting the wrong keys :) [17:00] niels_horn (n=niels@189.106.102.155) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:00] rg3: hey there! [17:00] long time, everything ok with you? [17:00] rg3: really I don't do any truly fancy command-line editing anyway, if I mess up too much it's usually easier to ^C and start over (on bash anyway, with tab-completion. I wouldn't want to do that on solaris though) [17:00] Kaapa: hey, yeah, how are you? [17:01] or does sun's ksh do filename completion too? (seems like it didn't in solaris 7) [17:01] Nick change: hiptobecubic^ -> hiptobecubic [17:01] I'm always fine. (and busy. but specially fine :) ) [17:01] Urchlay: i know our boxes don't [17:01] Kaapa: i wanted to share a slackroll trick with you, but i always forget about it [17:02] Kaapa: some time ago you mentioned you wanted to ignore every mutt version up until 1.6 was released, i think [17:02] shoot, it's been working as a charm [17:03] I looked at the other tool one day and dang, sr is relly much better [17:03] slapt-get [17:03] command line rules; wmii, vim, bash vi-mode, mutt, vimperator firefox plugin and you are a happy camper for sure [17:03] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:03] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] well, since i introduced the blacklisting mechanism as a last resort (for normal operation, the frozen and foreign states are preferred), and it works with regular expressions, you can easily blacklist mutt-1.4 as if it didn't exist [17:04] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:04] Kaapa: then you can keep your build of mutt as foreign, and when slackware starts shipping 1.6, slackroll will pick it up [17:04] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:04] ah, nice [17:07] Kaapa: http://rg3.github.com/slackroll/operations-guide.html <-- head down to the explanation for "print-blacklist" and i think you'll understand perfectly [17:09] reading! thanks [17:09] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving." [17:09] hm. This don't exactly fill me with confidence... /usr/src/linux-2.6.31.6-rt19/arch/x86/include/asm/io.h:28: warning: array subscript is above array bounds [17:10] Urchlay: check the source :) [17:10] I set myself up in the sudoers file. Although visudo would not work. [17:11] I see no reason that visudo would be necessary when there is only one person on the computer anyway [17:11] when will the new package browser be ready? [17:11] emma how didn't visudo work and what groups are you member of [17:12] emma: visudo also checks the file syntax before closing, apart from the locking stuff [17:12] hi from a celeron 433MHz runnning slackware-current [17:12] I wonder if visudo not working is a bug in slackware 13 though. [17:12] and it runs well :) [17:12] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) joined ##slackware. [17:12] nille_: I switched to root and I typed: visudo /etc/sudoers [17:12] nille_: and rather than opening that file for editing it returned, "usage: -c [-f sudoers] .. [17:12] you don't need to specify the filename [17:13] \o/! I got wireless working finally. :p just worked this time for some reason. [17:13] just "visudo" by itself [17:13] oh you just type visudo oh :) [17:13] emma: PEBKAC [17:13] hehehe [17:13] well it doesn't work the way other editors work then. [17:13] :q [17:13] errr [17:13] fail [17:13] visudo isn't an editor, it's a wrapper that runs an editor for you, then checks the syntax of the file afterwards [17:14] hey, unaesthetically|harshly [17:14] err, fire|bird [17:14] but here's another strange thing. Now that I am on that sudo list. I just did (as user em): sudo cd /root and it returns, sudo: cd: command not found [17:14] cd is a shell built-in [17:14] hey idiosyncrasy|blushes [17:14] err Urchlay [17:14] in other words there's no /bin/cd or /usr/bin/cd [17:15] But I know you can sudo cd that's the only way to change to some directories when you aren't root. [17:15] even if you could "sudo cd /root", it wouldn't help: the sudo process can't affect the working directory of its parent (the shell it was called from) [17:15] no, "sudo cd" doesn't work and never has [17:15] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:16] hm, i just tried it on my other computer and it looks like you are right. [17:16] if you need to cd to a dir your user has no permission to, "sudo -s" will get you a root shell [17:17] ahh i see. [17:17] though I tend to "sudo su -" [17:17] I was just using it as a quick test to see if i successfully made myself a super user but i guess it was a bad test :) [17:17] why is that - there? [17:18] su* sucks [17:18] the - makes it a real login like it' [17:19] the - tells su to run a login shell (so things like PATH and HOME are set correctly for root) [17:19] sources /etc/profilr [17:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-12-70.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:19] grr why can't i type today [17:19] and I don't have any idea what the sudo option is to do the same thing with "sudo -s" [17:19] (man page says it should be -i, but that fails) [17:19] nille_ manual infidelity :) [17:20] oh, wait, no it doesn't, it should be "sudo -i", not "sudo -i -s" [17:20] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:20] apparently "sudo -i" is exactly equivalent to "sudo su -" [17:20] who told me about xfs the other night? [17:21] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:21] dunno...look through your logs? [17:21] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) left irc: "checking something" [17:21] emma: one reason for using "su -" is that, on Slackware, users have . (current directory) in their PATH by default. That's a bad idea for root... [17:21] i dont have . [17:22] tripFantstic: because you removed it? [17:22] tripFantstic i think it was santa, you don't belive in santa do you [17:22] no; it was never part of path [17:22] nille_ lol, nop [17:22] tripFantstic: maybe I'm outdated then, I know . was in the path when I first started using slackware [17:22] ok [17:22] by default I mean [17:22] yea [17:23] hm, and . is in the path of a user I just now created... *shrug* [17:23] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) joined ##slackware. [17:23] fix etc/* [17:24] tripFantstic: it's done in /etc/profile, look at the very end of the file [17:24] yea; i always fix etc/* [17:24] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [17:24] during one dist, i setup RCS in etc for a while; it was nice. [17:24] right. I'm too lazy to care, at least on a box that doesn't have a live IP address [17:24] Urchlay is right about . and path [17:25] and ~urchlay/.bash_profile on this box, throws away the system PATH variable and explicitly sets it :) [17:25] nille_ manual is fine but sripting is better: [17:26] echo $PATH| tr ';' '\n' | sort | uniq >>/etc/profile [17:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:26] vim /etc/profile # move new path to previous position in file. [17:26] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.151.193) left irc: "Leaving." [17:26] eh, the ; ought to be a : surely? [17:26] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:26] yea oops [17:27] lazy pinky [17:27] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] heh, I still have /usr/local/gcc-3.3.4/bin in my user's PATH [17:27] hrad (i=4e888a18@gateway/web/freenode/x-zmxjrjplmnmzquzp) left irc: "Page closed" [17:27] use slackpackage instead of local/ [17:27] been either re-using the /home partition or copying it to a new disk for 10+ years now [17:27] oops, i meant slashpackage [17:28] there *is* no /usr/local/gcc-3.3.4 on this box, and hasn't been in like 5 years :) [17:28] ok [17:28] lol [17:28] file a fix [17:28] i have downloaded and unziped and untared the w32codecs. Do I just stick that whole directory in some lib or do I copy the contents into /usr/lib or is there some other place to put it? [17:29] Urchlay i think you done an bad upgrade atleast once ;) [17:29] emma: here's a nasty example of why root shouldn't have . in the PATH... as a normal user, I do this: "echo 'rm -rf /' > /tmp/ls; chmod 755 /tmp/ls" [17:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [17:29] later on (maybe years later), you su to root and go "cd /tmp ; ls"... whoops! [17:29] and that's why i use mc [17:29] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:30] nille_: eh? nah, the contents of /home have never been touched by any upgrade I've ever done [17:30] tripFantstic: more power to you, if you can stand to use it :) [17:30] since last century [17:30] from dos even [17:30] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:30] what, norton commander? [17:31] i can move whole fs trees in a since keypress :) [17:31] yea nc [17:31] i always upgrade myself and use my old /home but i diff /etc ;) [17:31] tripFantstic: I don't *want* to accidentally move whole fs trees in a single keypress! [17:31] personally, i think a dist is broke if mc inst installed [17:31] Anyone know what package provides the 'acpi' binary? The one that reads battery levels and estimates time left. [17:31] someone knows an app to read pdf files from console ? [17:31] Urchlay if you do, you aint payn attn [17:31] acpitool robinetd ? [17:31] pdftotext [17:32] slackpkg search acpi [17:32] robinetd: there doesn't seem to be an "acpi" binary. There's "acpid", is that what you meant? [17:32] tripFantstic: very often I'm not paying attention [17:32] ok [17:32] Urchlay: No. There's a package that contains a binary called 'acpi'. [17:32] robinetd: are you sure? I've got a full install of slack 13 and no such binary [17:32] Urchlay: I didn't say it was included with slackware :p. But yes, there's such a binary. [17:33] robinetd: fair enough :) [17:33] x-ip: Where'd you get it? [17:33] this maybe? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/acpitool/ [17:33] Urchlay: Probably, I'll check it out ^.^ danke [17:33] im going to make a /usr/lib/win32 and just dump everything into it. [17:33] ok emma [17:33] i have no idea if that's right but *shrug* [17:34] run ldconfig too [17:34] emma: there's not really a right/wrong answer for that [17:34] tripFantstic: i'm tryign to guess how to put the w32codecs on slackware, on my other distro I always just got a .deb and did dpkg -i w32codecs.. [17:34] emma for mplayer? [17:34] emma: I used to keep them in /usr/lib/win32 before I upgraded to 64-bit (there's no way to use 32-bit win32 codecs with a 64-bit xine or mplayer, and I rarely run into files that need them anyway) [17:34] Urchlay: well i guess the files have to be in the place where the applications that use them will know where to find them. [17:35] emma it's not an app thing; it's a ldd/lib. mkdir, cp into; run ldconfig [17:35] then run app [17:35] ldd answers the deps at runtime [17:35] emma: yes, and "man mplayer" might help you figure out where mplayer looks... and, you can always edit ~/.mplayer/config to change that place [17:35] oh ldd is like some sort of clearing house that tells apps where libs are? [17:35] tripFantstic: emma's talking about win32 dll's, not linux shared libs [17:36] Urchlay if for mplayer, then the answer is the same (that's how i've done it) [17:36] damn space bar is sticking again [17:36] emma i think your suposed to use /usr/lib/codecs and if any program need /usr/lib/win32 then symlink [17:36] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-237-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:36] nille_: oh that sounds reasonable. [17:36] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "leaving" [17:37] i dont get win32 libname probs with mplayer; they're all in one dir [17:37] on ehre [17:37] here [17:37] it really really doesn't matter. I've kept them in ~/win32shit before, just tell mplayer where to look [17:37] but why not use http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/mplayer-codecs/ [17:37] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:38] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/source/xap/MPlayer/MPlayer.SlackBuild <-- also shows where it expects them [17:38] Urchlay: Nope, not what I'm looking for. I've got the source tarball for it so it shouldn't be too hard to write my own slackbuild. ;o If you're familiar with gentoo, there's an ebuild called simply "acpi". That's what I'm talking about. [17:38] Or use VLC so you do not ned those damned win32 codecs [17:38] you don't need those damned win32 codecs in mplayer either, 99.9% of the time [17:38] well once upon a time xine looked for win32 in /usr/lib/win32 so i think many tutorials still has that. [17:38] i haven't used win32 codecs in probably 4 years [17:39] The /usr/lib/codecs is good. And /usr/lib/win32 should be a symlink to that [17:39] Most if not all programs that can use them, will look in either of these two locations [17:39] robinetd: this? http://gentoo-portage.com/sys-power/acpi/ChangeLog [17:40] Urchlay: Yeah. [17:41] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [17:41] Ah, acpiclient is its rightful name. [17:41] should be a simple enough slackbuild to write, if slackbuilds.org doesn't already have it [17:42] wait, here it is: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/acpi/ [17:42] just use that, should be fine [17:42] gnubien (n=e@225.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:42] yeehaw, thanks. [17:42] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:43] slackbuilds.org has tons of useful stuff [17:43] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:43] Urchlay: hehe. Just needed it for a backtick in my .screenrc. [17:44] i finally switched ratpoison; it's all i need. [17:44] robinetd: hm, what do you use acpi for in .screenrc? /me is curious... [17:44] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:44] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:44] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:45] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Urchlay: Battery monitor in the bottom right corner of screen. It shows up as percentage. [17:45] ah [17:45] Some acpi and awk magic :p [17:46] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] well anyway, i did put xfs on the new 500g-usb; its mkfs was only a 3s run; awesome [17:46] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [17:46] probably would be easy to rewrite it so it looks at the relevant /sys or /proc file(s) directly instead of needing an acpi binary [17:46] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:46] raelaa (n=heather@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:46] tripFantstic: You're using a filesystem based on how fast it's created? [17:46] I can't really help with that, as my only laptop has been missing its battery for years :( [17:47] tripFantstic: i have mplayer playing an mp3 right now on slackware :D [17:47] no; i axed here for suggies to put on a new hd; xfs was the only response; its mkfs is VERY fast. [17:47] sweet [17:47] Urchlay: Heh. I can't even take the credit for what I'm using now.Got it from an arch user. [17:47] In a pretty short time, I've got youtube playing flash videos, and mplayer playing mp3s. [17:47] mplayer can do flash [17:47] I think I have succeeded in getting a slackware desktop :) [17:48] i have mplayer only for all my media junk [17:48] I wish mplayer could stream from youtube [17:48] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-71-178.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] if it can play flash then why can't it? [17:48] see getflash from freshmeat iinm [17:48] seems to work fine to youtube-dl a video, then watch it with mplayer [17:48] ok; you kn ow of those bins then [17:48] *after* it's downloaded I mean [17:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:49] yea [17:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-180-81.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:49] but I tried having youtube-dl write the flash video to stdout, then have mplayer read from stdin... no go [17:49] k [17:50] what about mplayer urn style? [17:50] what, mplayer http://path/to/file.flv? [17:50] dvd:// etc [17:50] can't remember if that worked or not, lemme check [17:50] Hm. slackpkg upgrade-all wants to downgrade my kde 4.2.4 to 3.5.10 (just got off of a slack13 install). [17:51] ew [17:51] robinetd: then your mirror is not a 13.0 mirror URL [17:51] howcome slackware doesn't have a repository with a package system to resolve dependencies and stuff? [17:51] emma the implementation is incomplete [17:51] emma: we just do not [17:51] heh [17:51] the sscript i mean [17:51] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:51] maybe you guys would like to have one [17:52] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:52] sure; pass it around :) [17:52] Urchlay: vlc can play youtube URLs ; like "vlc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOyTEdQIlKs" [17:52] alienBOB: huh, it appears not. :p oops [17:52] I wonder why noone has thought of that yet [17:52] everyone's too lazy [17:52] Action: x-ip is loosing a lot of packets ;_; [17:52] emma: and we will never [17:52] alienBOB: why never? [17:52] Because [17:52] that's a dumb reason [17:53] was a slack12.2 mirror. [17:53] It's a dumb question too [17:53] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:53] it would not have to be some official thing. It could be a slackware community made thing. With easier to make packages than .deb where everyone could make them and then user beware. [17:53] x-ip 40.4 ping [17:53] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:53] emma: Doesn't swaret already do what you're asking? [17:53] Dependency resolving is not all that fantastic. Slackware chose to stay on the path of no dep.checking [17:53] Urchlay: I use mp -cache 1024 -mc 10 -framedrop `youtube-dl -b --get-url $1` in a script. [17:54] Action: robinetd ducks [17:54] alienBOB: well installing software on say debian is trivial and requires no time or effort. [17:54] So? This is Slackware [17:54] i dont want dep checking in a pkg manager for slack; i want better flexibility in mirror selection! [17:54] I do not care emma [17:54] emma: There's plenty of distro's who resolve package dependencies and such already. While it might sound neat at first, think of all the complexities of making a RPM or DEB package. I can never remember all the steps of building one.. can you ? Conversely, making slackware packages is quite simple.. I like this simplicity, it allows me to easily build software myself and extend my system how I see fit. [17:54] hehe "this is slackware, time and effort are what it's all about!" hehe [17:54] ok, mplayer does seem to be able to play them with "mplayer `youtube-dl -g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF2x5IKxmAQ`" [17:54] Nope [17:54] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-251-78.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Urchlay ok [17:55] possibly it couldn't with whatever old version of mplayer I last tried it with [17:55] k [17:55] That would have to be very old. [17:55] I've been doing this for years :) [17:55] Installing software on Slackware is also trivial emma - but Slackware assumes nothing except that the user has a brain [17:55] Being a relatively new user, would it be stupid to upgrade to -current? [17:55] *shrug*, I don't think it was all that long ago... [17:55] making a .deb or an .rpm is hard work for one person but much easier for everyone else. [17:56] robinetd: "stupid" is probably too strong of a word [17:56] robinetd: but it wouldn't be advisable [17:56] robinetd: stay with 13.0 please unless you know your way around in Slackware [17:56] robinetd if you cant install slack without rebooting, then dont use -current :) [17:56] i imagine if you all made a slackware package system it would be better and easier than .deb or .rpm [17:56] alot of slackware users don't want dependency resolution. [17:56] emma: Slackware repositories (for packages and build scripts) will make your life as easy as with ubunut [17:57] of course it's not that challenging to impliment into packages, we just choose not to go that route :) [17:57] emma: "slackware package system" ?? [17:57] alienBOB: ;o Can I get kde 4.3.3 in 13? [17:57] alienBOB: oh i didn't know there were any slackware repositories. [17:57] slack pkgs are tarballs. [17:57] robinetd: no [17:57] emma: my dependency checker is called eabe [17:57] emma: Well, you know where to look then :) I can only say that I've used linux the past 7 years or so and everytime I run into a wall in any other distro I go to slackware. Usually slackware is just very intuitive when solving problems. Also, have a look at slackbuilds.org and see how many things you can install right now with very little trouble on your part. [17:57] emma: FAIL [17:57] with a install script [17:57] First do your research then come complaining here [17:57] -current it is. :o [17:57] alienBOB: i thought the only way to get software for slackware was either if it was on the install disk or you have to dowload the source from the authors and compile it. [17:57] robinetd: good! [17:57] SIGH [17:57] emma that's one way [17:57] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.131.155) joined ##slackware. [17:58] emma: you have a _lot_ to learn about Slackware. This is not gentoo [17:58] emma: please read all the URLs in the topic [17:58] okay [17:58] done [17:58] And do not talk before having read them all [17:58] The content that is [17:58] alienBOB: to be fair, I used slackware for many many years without knowing about slackbuilds.org - I had to come here to learn about it... [17:58] alienBOB: you're serious ? That's the admission fee here ? ;) [17:58] then read google.com/linux :) [17:58] You want me to click on them too? :P [17:59] emma: open each of them in a browser and read [17:59] oh okay hehe [17:59] Action: macavity gipslaps emma [17:59] hehe [17:59] Action: alienBOB disappears into the Void [17:59] alienBOB: say hello on the other side :P [17:59] Tired of fighting the Word [17:59] emma: also, not mentioned in the topic, is sbopkg.org [18:00] okay [18:00] rk4n3: Me too, I only found out by coming here the other day after returning to slackware. Slackbuilds is great though! <3 [18:00] alienBOB: then do as the budist :P [18:00] emma: that is a good frontend for slackbuilds.org [18:00] icarus_: indeed - slackbuilds are great :) [18:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [18:00] TClayton (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] emma: sbopkg it is to slackbuilds.org what slackpkg is to official slackware packages [18:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:01] okay cool [18:01] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:01] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:02] emma: and dont forget to read the README for every single package that you want sbopkg to build for you... as the README lists the dependencies if any :P [18:02] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:03] emma: sbopkg also has a queue manager for the builds which is especially handy when things have dependencies [18:03] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Curious. The slackware installer *still* clings to Lilo and Slackbuilds doesn't have a package for either grub 1 or grub 2 ? Am I to assume that *none* in here use grub to boot their os ? [18:04] i grub [18:04] icarus_: grub is in the extra/ directory [18:04] Action: alienBOB should send his sbopkg queue file for running Lotus Notes to chess_ [18:05] ewww, locust notes [18:05] emma: for instance, if you want to build app foo which requires libbar you just add foo and bar to the build queue. Now when you add bar you notice that bar requires baz, so you add that too. Then you ask sbopkg to reverse the build queue, so the order becomes baz -> bar -> foo [18:05] deco: ahh! Thanks. I wonder if it's suicide building grub 2 myself though hehe [18:05] heh ditto [18:05] Well the 8.5.1 is actually very nice Urchlay [18:05] icarus_: np :) [18:06] First time I enjoy working with Notes... and it even works better than Outlook (as if that is so hard, but yes Notes was bad) [18:06] icarus_: Look in extras/ in the 13 tree. grub 0.97 is in it. [18:06] robinetd: just told him [18:06] I think I saw a grub2 SlackBuild on LQ.org today [18:06] I just remember being asked to take a look at someone's notes server (even though I'd never touched notes beforE), it was crashing... turns out it was stuck in a mail loop, someone out there had set their MX record to 127.0.0.1, then sent an email to a nonexistant username at these peoples' domain [18:06] deco: Oh, didn't see it :p [18:07] robinetd: :P [18:07] Written by Andries Brouwers if you need to google it, I think it was hosted on github [18:07] it kept trying to send a bounce message to the sending address, via localhost... which resulted in another bonce message... [18:07] Urchlay: That's really funny. :D [18:08] robinetd: what's hilarious is that their certified Notes admin, who probably makes 3x what I did as a consultant, was completely at a loss to explain it [18:08] and by "hilarious" I mean "disgusting"... [18:08] icarus_: http://github.com/abrouwers/ajb_slackbuilds/tree/master/grub/ [18:09] Urchlay nice security trick :) loclhost [18:09] alienBOB: thanks :) I was trying to find it via google, no luck but .. thanks! [18:09] Urchlay: Did you charge them a crapton? :p [18:09] Her0 (n=jkemp@174-158-231-83.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] First hit here icarus_ [18:09] is a crapton tween a thou and a milll? [18:09] alienBOB: question... [18:09] robinetd: nah, I probably should have, but the company I worked for would have taken most of it anyway [18:10] heh [18:10] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:10] robinetd: it took all of 10 minutes to fix [18:10] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [18:10] alienBOB: could you update the slackbuilds for qcad? [18:10] Someday perhaps [18:10] Urchlay: I rate my time at $100/hour when doing something not in the job description. [18:11] so a crapton is $100/hr? [18:11] lol [18:11] good to know [18:11] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:11] robinetd: when/if I ever start consulting again, I'd be an independent & could do stuff like that... working for a crappy company though, there wasn't much point [18:11] tripFantstic: I consider $100/hr a lot of money. :p [18:11] war9407 (i=war@liquidswords.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] so do i [18:12] $100/hr for 10 minutes of work is only $16 or so [18:12] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:12] heh [18:12] nyRednek: qcad community edition is still at 2.0.5.0 [18:12] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:12] Urchlay: Most people make less than that in an hour. [18:12] Urchlay: dont forget to charge traveling time [18:12] in fact they took me to lunch the next day, which probably cost more than $16 :) [18:12] now that's very nice!!! [18:12] robinetd: you must be kidding me?!? [18:12] macavity: I was already there in the server room though, doing the job I was actually there to do [18:13] who took you? [18:13] macavity: Not at all. What do you think mcdonalds people get paid? :p [18:13] tripFantstic: the client with the malfunctioning notes server [18:13] nice [18:13] expensive sushi place [18:13] mmm [18:13] Action: robinetd wonders if that was sarcasm. [18:13] where? [18:14] tripFantstic: macavity's last comment. :P [18:14] ru san, it's called [18:14] robinetd oops; answering Urchlay [18:14] ok; everyone use nicks from now on! :> [18:14] or read a context [18:14] srsly. [18:14] one of these days I want to find one of the sushi places where, instead of a table, the food is served on a naked girl [18:15] robinetd: ok, i botched the calculation in my head.. $15/hour is roughly our minumum wage [18:15] not sure they exist in the US though [18:15] robinetd: that is, with the current value of the dollar [18:15] macavity: Minimum wage in my area is $7.25 [18:15] O_O [18:15] Action: robinetd lives in michigan. [18:15] that's the minimum wage for under 18 here :-/ [18:16] macavity: Where you at? [18:16] Denmark [18:16] waitresses still make $2.13/hr + tips, and there's no way to force people to tip them. I always thought that should be illegal... [18:17] Urchlay: If they don't tip and they come back, I've known people to spit in the food. [18:18] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [18:18] robinetd: Denmark [18:18] eh, you probably don't want me to get started on restaurant horror stories, I've seen a few... [18:18] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:19] Urchlay is that sanitary? [18:19] icarus_ (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:19] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:19] tripFantstic: is what? spit in your food? depends. If it's spit on before it's cooked, eh, the germs all get killed during cooking... [18:20] Urchlay girl on your food lol [18:20] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] oh, that sushi thing? I dunno. I suppose the girls take about 15 showers a day... [18:20] lol ew [18:20] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.18.104) left irc: No route to host [18:20] tripFantstic: do you ever say anything coherent? [18:20] macavity not on purpose [18:20] [grin] [18:20] macavity: no, never. [18:20] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [18:20] oh well.. i guess it slips from time to time, eh [18:21] heh yea [18:21] hey neonflux [18:21] i bird [18:21] hi [18:21] hi fire|bird [18:21] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [18:21] neonflux: that new xbmc build + theme is excellent. [18:21] fire|bird: so it is just like having our own random word generator bot? [18:21] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) left irc: "back in a bit" [18:21] macavity: pretty much, yeah. [18:21] Coherence was a os; of a by-gone age. [18:21] fire|bird: the new interface is quite nice [18:21] yes [18:22] neonflux: yeah, I like the slide out menus, etc. works great. [18:22] and looks a lot nicer. [18:22] neonflux: Also, I love the Music tab's bg of a guitar in flames. :) [18:22] the jimmi look? [18:22] motif? [18:22] fire|bird:yeah, if this versio bump was only for aesthetics then it was worth it. But there was a lot done under the hood as well [18:22] s/versio/version/ [18:23] neonflux: yeah, I have b1 on the desktop and laptop and it's working great on both. [18:23] fire|bird: glad to hear it [18:23] I'm implementing a couple of startup scripts on my local build and see how they work [18:24] cool [18:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [18:25] Nick change: TClayton_ -> TClayton [18:26] Not sure if they are needed, but they might come in handy on an HTPC [18:26] Does anyone know why my lcd brightness is set to it's minimum every time I play a movie on my Acer Aspire 5315 with 13.0? [18:28] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:31] oh, and i made a 1g swap on the 500g [18:32] first time in a long time with swap [18:32] kill OOM; evil. 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[18:53] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [18:54] macavity I saw the convo with punk [18:54] good [18:54] Her0: could you try chaning the mirror to, say, oregon? [18:55] Action: hitest uses oregon, works for me [18:55] macavity What do u mean is there a mirror in the list to oregon or do u want me to add one? [18:55] it is there [18:55] oregon.state.something.something.org i belive it is [18:55] Ok, does it say oregon in the name i guess ? I'll see on my own =P [18:55] Yeah prob university kay. [18:56] ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [18:56] unless you use slackware64-13.0/ naturally [18:56] No... 32bit [18:56] Her0: did you do *any* changes to /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf? [18:57] No, lol. No changes to that or permissions or anything its a fresh install.... [18:57] full install? [18:57] Only had it for today definately don't mess with anything im not familiar with [18:57] Yep Full [18:58] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:59] Tried oregon, same error [18:59] =(, perhaps this will be fixed with his new release ? [18:59] if we can pinpoint what the heck is going on [19:00] do you read shellscript? [19:00] lol, yeah. [19:00] Fair [19:00] Her0: No. Because no one can reproduce what you say is happening. [19:00] PiterPunk: i swear i had another user the other day with the same problem [19:00] Understandable.... [19:01] i just for cant the love of god remember who was here with me [19:01] I promise though, didn't touch any files slackpkg related or otherwise really since install. [19:01] Help-me. make a tar with your /etc/slackpkg, /var/log/packages and /var/lib/slackpkg [19:01] Send they to me [19:01] now we are getting somewhere :-) [19:02] kay [19:02] macavity: I only can help if I can see what's the problem [19:02] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) joined ##slackware. [19:03] nvision (n=nvision@g225048081.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [19:03] PiterPunk: i know.. i'll see if i can grep the logs to find the other user [19:04] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Her0: can you pastebin the error message again? i lost it [19:05] Sure. [19:05] Do u just want the old link? [19:05] yes [19:05] Or want me to repost it with Oregon mirror. [19:05] K [19:06] doesnt matter, i just need the exact wording of the "can't stat" error message so fire|bird can grep the logs for it [19:06] http://pastebin.ca/1692988 [19:07] are you running slackpkg as root? [19:07] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-184.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:07] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:08] yes, would that be a problem? I thought i needed to run as it as root. [19:08] you do :P [19:08] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [19:08] and, just on a hunch, you didnt run it as "sudo slackpkg" right? [19:08] Yay me, something i did right. *pat on the back* [19:08] No [19:08] lol [19:09] su -, then ran it. [19:09] hey quick question, i have to write i report for a cmn class, so i wanted to do something about slackware. I was thinking or aruging that slackware is one of the best or the best os's for a home server? does that make sense or do you guys disaggree [19:09] i think sudo in the default configuration doesnt sets up a semi broken $PATH for [19:09] eh, I run "sudo slackpkg" all the time, what problem is that supposed to cause? [19:09] macius slackware isn't an OS =P [19:09] macius: since I run slack as both server and desktop, I would say "yes" [19:10] macius But you could say perhaps Linux is best, and maybe lean toward your prefferred distro...say slackware ;) [19:10] macius: this is obviously a severly biased crowd to ask... [19:10] macius: but no, i dont think so, as it for one comes without iptables configured out of the box ;-) [19:10] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:10] and as noted, slackware is a distribution, but Her0 - it _is_ also an o/s :) [19:10] lol aright ty for the advice [19:11] Yep. Np [19:11] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:11] the paper is just my ideas right, so it doesnt matter if it actually isent the best macavity, im personally using it as a server myself, so just wanted to check if it wasent only me thinking of it as a good server [19:12] but once again ty all :) [19:12] macius: "best" heavily depends on the metric [19:13] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:13] macius: i think slackware is only "best" if you insist on knowing what the heck is going on.. if you want something that "just works" then Ubuntu Server might be more appropriate [19:13] how does one put a newline in strftime? [19:13] also, matchbox doesn't seem to work well [19:13] nyRednek: tried \n already? [19:14] Urchlay: yeah [19:14] macavity: i was considering mentioning its satability and its years of existence in on arugument in why its better then systems liek ubuntu [19:14] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [19:14] Urchlay: and \\n as well...both just put a blank space in it [19:14] macius: can you back that slackware is more stable than ubuntu server? [19:14] wait, what is this? using the C strftime() function, or something else? [19:15] Urchlay: xclock [19:15] i found a new use for old credit cards, cut em in to triangles and use em for guitar pics :D [19:15] macius: personally i havent seen any benchmarks [19:15] it uses C strftime to display [19:15] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [19:15] macavity: theres alot of references from websites that say that so i can back it in that, and it being around since 1992 compared to ubuntu comming out int he 2000's i beleive shows that it has more work done [19:16] when does xclock even show the time with strftime? [19:16] oh, nm, need -d option [19:16] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host81-135-84-191.range81-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:16] Urchlay: LOL [19:16] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:16] macius: but ubuntu is based on debian.. and i dare not claim that debian stable is any less stable than slackware.. quite the contrary :P [19:16] Urchlay: i'm back to working on my buttons setup [19:17] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:17] macavity: i'd argue that the stability is similar between debian and slackware [19:17] Ick, gmails not letting me send the tar cause contains executable [19:17] nyRednek: I'm going to say it's not possible... not even embedded a real newline with ^V^M works [19:17] Smallgoat (n=andy@host81-135-84-191.range81-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] Her0: rename the extension...like name.tar.gz.remove_this [19:18] Ok [19:18] Urchlay: what i'm trying to do, get date and time in one fvwmbutton [19:19] Her0: yahoo mail will let you send an executable [19:19] the button isn't wide enough to display them side-by-side? [19:19] Urchlay: nope [19:19] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [19:19] gn all [19:19] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "peace" [19:19] Urchlay: want a screenshot of what i mean? [19:19] Her0: if you don't want to rename it, that is [19:19] I suppose... I haven't looked at fvwm in years, not sure how useful I'll be [19:20] Her0: good luck.. i need to sleep now [19:20] ta ta hackers [19:20] Nick change: nix_chixOr -> nix_chix0r [19:21] Action: Urchlay hacks ta-ta's [19:21] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the fish!" [19:21] nn macavity [19:21] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:21] hi, in /extras there's a slacbuilds script for flash. how long does it usually take to get the source? [19:22] PiterPunk: File's sent... [19:22] thanks [19:22] PiterPunk: Let me know if those are adequate. [19:23] Hopefully you can figure out whats up... =-P [19:23] All the logs that you have are those in pastebin? [19:23] What? [19:23] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:23] if i've already run this slackbuid on one machine, can i retrieve the flashtarball from pc 1, and use it as the source for pc 2 ? [19:23] No. I sent u the pastebin link to my error...but i just packaged the files u told me [19:23] Her0: http://pastebin.ca/1692988 <- this is all that you have? [19:23] I attatched it, did it not come ? [19:24] blkdg: you mean the package it crated ? [19:24] Should be attached, if not FU microsoft again , i used hotmail cause gmail wouldn't send it. [19:24] created* [19:25] Her0: calm down... the mail didn't arrive yet -;) [19:25] Oh, okay. Damn...i was looking for yet another reason to be mad at microsoft....*retreats to his shell* [19:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@97-94-111-202.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] PiterPunk: Let me know when it comes and that its what you needed. [19:27] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:27] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [19:28] http://imagebin.org/73437 [19:28] Urchlay: [19:28] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: "leaving" [19:28] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Client Quit [19:29] nyRednek: the top 2 buttons are 2 separate instances of xclock? [19:29] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:29] Urchlay: yeah [19:29] can't a fvwmbutton just run a program (shell script for example) and display its output in the button? [19:29] Scuzz, umm, i think my first question is moot. the script just returned a msg: [19:30] ./flashplayer-plugind.slackbuild failed at line 123 [19:30] qzip stdin unexpected end of file [19:30] then 2 tar errors with EOF [19:30] do i just run the script again? [19:30] qzip? [19:30] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.202.225.145) left ##slackware. [19:31] Urchlay: i think [19:31] what on Earth are you doing? [19:31] Urchlay: you're thinking a script, no? [19:31] nyRednek: so write a tiny script that does "date +%x", then "date +%X"... the output will be on 2 separate lines... [19:32] Urchlay: let me look up the fvwmbuttons calls, first [19:32] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Scuzz, i looked on the original machine, and i installed flash, then i rm'd the package and kept the slackbuilds script from /extras. [19:32] Her0: Please, run only "slackpkg" and put the results on pastebin. Ah, you forgot to send the var/log/packages tarball [19:32] but it looks like i never kept the downloaded file [19:33] I remember fvwm2's desktop menu was able to run a script and use its output as menu entries, but can't remember anything about fvwmbuttons [19:33] maybe it was just a bad download [19:33] Urchlay: fvwm2 is also able to use xfce and kde menus, but i forget how [19:34] it now, on the third try says its buit a package! [19:34] xfce and kde probably weren't invented yet, back when I last ran fvwm :) [19:34] thanks again folks [19:34] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:35] (eh, maybe they existed, but weren't in common use yet, I dunno) [19:35] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:35] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:36] Urchlay: when i started using fvwm, kde was around, but xfce wasn't [19:36] Urchlay: so how to get a script to execute an infinite loop? [19:36] you don't want that [19:37] Urchlay: to constantly display current time in seconds [19:37] right, but you don't want to do it that way [19:37] fvwm won't "look" at the script's output until it exits, I bet [19:38] Urchlay: i was looking at the swallow directive [19:38] swallow? I think that's for x11 windows [19:38] you'd have to swallow an xterm running your script, or something [19:38] which means i'd probably look at a tk script [19:38] I thought "swallow" was fvwm-specific [19:39] rk4n3: we're talking about fvwm [19:39] aha - that explains alot :) [19:40] would be easy enough to grab the xclock source and hack on it until it does what you want [19:40] I thought "swallow" was fire|bird-specific -_- [19:40] all this talk about swallowing and X geez [19:40] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] looks like a pr0n0 [19:41] antiwire: well, as long as ascii art doesn't start showing up. [19:41] eh, even better, use wmclock instead of xclock (my wmclock is showing the date and time in a 64x64 window right now) [19:41] fire|bird: do not run figlet -_- [19:41] tzclock [19:41] Camarade_Tux: haha [19:41] y0 Rat409 [19:42] yo fire|bird [19:42] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:42] there's also the old asclock from afterstep, and probably a zillion other xclock replacements, I bet one of them does exactly what you want [19:42] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:42] wmCalClock works [19:44] while you're at it, "wmnet" and "wmmon" are handy things to have in your fvwmbuttons display [19:45] PiterPunk: sorry was in a another window, will do. And sorry i'll package it and send it. [19:46] PiterPunk: Running just slackpkg just shows version and usage info. [19:47] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [19:48] Her0: put that version and usage on pastebin [19:49] bah, it's been a week I've been annoyed with a failing hard drive which I can't plug in since I don't have the cables (laptop drive and using it in its original location means taking one of my external drives for ten days, plus the laptop is noisy) [19:49] reroute (n=joe@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] PiterPunk: oKay, done, link is http://pastebin.ca/1693280 [19:50] PiterPunk: Sent you the file too. [19:51] Her0: Why you downgrade your slackpkg from 2.80.2 to 2.70.4? [19:51] You are using 2.80.2 configuration file with 2.70.4 slackpkg executables. [19:51] quick question for you fine slackers. If a desktop pc keeps rebooting during slackware install would the hardware problem be easy to narrow down [19:51] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:51] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.131.155) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:51] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.52.197) joined ##slackware. [19:51] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:51] now to center the swallowed app in a button [19:52] Really? I didn't downgrade anything, perhaps i downloaded from a bad location ??? [19:52] Probably [19:52] That's why slackpkg isn't working as expected [19:52] I think i dled from slackbuilds [19:53] And yeah, def explains the probs. [19:53] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:53] Nah, got it from sourceforge my bad. [19:53] Her0: slackware-13.0 already cames with the correct slackpkg version [19:54] The version i dled from Sourcforge was 2.7 [19:54] #slackware: what I'm asking in your own experiences is when the system keeps rebooting for nothing is it usually the power supply or cpu, ram etc.. [19:54] OH, okay, =P [19:54] That would be my problem, i'll re dl and install 2.8 i guess would be best solution? [19:54] reroute: Usually, yes. [19:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427271.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:54] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:54] Her0: Probably -:) [19:54] PiterPunk: power supply? [19:55] that's my guess [19:55] PiterPunk: Ty im new to slack and was told to get slackpkg so i DID not knowing it was already on [19:55] reroute: check your CPU fan, too [19:55] reroute: yes -> hardware problems. Overheating and power supply are the best suspects [19:55] =) [19:55] PiterPunk: Thanks lots, i'll let ya know everything went smooth... [19:56] Her0: No problems. And thanks to send the needed information to me [19:57] PiterPunk: No prob, possibly let macavity know and maybe if he see's the "other" guy with the prob ask him if thats what was it. [19:59] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:00] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:00] PiterPunk: For some reason i can't dl anything, shows prompt for save, click save and nothing. Any ideas on that? LoL, sorry. [20:01] Her0: slackpkg troubles? [20:02] hmmm...a weather app other than wmweather? [20:02] reroute: already figured them out, but FF won't dl now... [20:02] cursetheweather [20:02] python ftw [20:02] nyRednek: open a window, look outside? [20:02] Urchlay: hehe [20:02] i like wmWeather, but can't get it to display non-metric [20:02] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] the weather here is nice [20:03] winter rules.. Her0: u could always check out swaret [20:03] seriously, I've never seen the use in a weather app, unless you happen to live right next door to wherever the actual sensors are that generate the data the app uses [20:03] all kinds of conky weathers scripts can run/display from xterm [20:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:03] or in conky of course [20:03] Urchlay: i'm just east of the newark station, and south of the central park station [20:03] or if you had a way to talk to a digital thermometer of your own, in your back yard maybe [20:04] Here's a cool weather map http://cdip.ucsd.edu/?nav=recent&sub=nowcast&xitem=socal_now [20:04] reroute: Nvm i think it was somehow root took ownership =P [20:04] Urchlay: well, is there a way to grow wmclock? [20:04] nyRednek: no idea :) [20:05] Urchlay: sensor for the BBQ! [20:05] most windowmaker dockapps only support a 64x64 window [20:05] reroute: sensors for the coffeepot would be more useful [20:06] and/or keg [20:06] reroute: to tell when the pot's empty, and let you know when it's done brewing, and keep track of just how old and nasty the coffee-sludge really is [20:06] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:07] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Urchlay: a sensored robot to clean the coffee pot too [20:07] censored robot? nah, I'd let him say whatever he wanted, so long as he got the damn thing clean [20:08] PiterPunk: Ty worked fine with 2.8 reinstalled. [20:08] Urchlay: error error, danger will robinson [20:09] Her0 (n=jkemp@174-158-155-120.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:10] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:10] ken (n=user@78.154.203.217) joined ##slackware. [20:11] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] I'd hack your coffee bot and force it to brew decaf [20:11] antiwire: it'd be kinder to just shoot me [20:12] lol [20:12] they'd have to be wireless sensors. can't imagine wires running into the house or the neighbors [20:12] zigbee would be the easiest way to build a coffee bot [20:13] dmenu, that's the debian menus on slack? [20:13] and arduino [20:13] arduino + zigbee = bot swarm [20:14] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] my coffee bot would probably be a Dalek [20:14] reprogrammed to yell "Caffeinate!" instead of "Exterminate!" [20:14] Action: edman007 pokes Urchlay with an egg beater [20:15] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:15] heh, beware the deadly dalek toilet plunger... [20:15] lol [20:16] oh noes [20:17] samurai/robot coffee bot might kill a house guest [20:17] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:18] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:18] well anyways, coffee sucks, thats why i got lots of red bull today [20:18] why oh why does Firefox bookmark scrolling suck so bad [20:18] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] you'd think they fix that random scrolling mayhem [20:18] red bull? eww... it's the only thing I've ever tasted that's *better* tasting when mixed with jagermeister [20:20] mix yager? well im an alcoholic [20:22] you'll love it then [20:23] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:23] eh, I like alcohol fine, just not jager [20:23] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:23] but the point is, to me, red bull is foul-tasting stuff [20:24] never tried it, is it sweet? [20:24] it is, tastes really bad.. hitest: you can get sugurless and it sketches u out nevermind the taste [20:24] i would rather drink a strong expresso than a red bull [20:24] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:25] I imagine that if I had ever tasted donkey wizz, redbull would be what donkey wizz tastes like [20:25] lol [20:25] thanks, I will avoid it [20:25] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [20:26] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-254-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:26] I'm not fond of sweet alcohol, I like beer, hard stuff, red wine, that's about it. [20:27] i like ales rum and scotch [20:27] scotch is awesome [20:27] all mixed together in one giant puch bowl [20:27] ken (n=user@78.154.203.217) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [20:27] scotch and water [20:27] stamp (n=stamp@chello087206233091.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [20:27] scotch and scotch :) [20:27] sounds like our drunken games in school.. [20:27] heh-heh [20:27] pressed is good, I'm canadian so I drink rye [20:27] played "caps" [20:28] fuck you is another great game C00re [20:28] or edward 40 hands [20:28] :D [20:28] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-5-158-64.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] i drink my rye with diet gingerale [20:28] why diet? [20:29] less of a hangover plus our great friend is diabetic for at least a decade now [20:29] you take two forties and someone duct tapes them to the hands of all participants and then opens the bottles after which you remain Edward 40 hands until you finish both of them. [20:29] less of a hangover? from using diet instead of regular ginger ale? [20:29] less sugar [20:29] yeah man, sugar will destroy [20:30] sugar doesn't cause hangovers though, dehydration does... [20:30] (Eh, I suppose if you're diabetic, sugar would cause a hangover or worse) [20:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-12-70.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] sugar is like poison to a diabetic [20:30] what do I know though, I'm apparently immune to hangovers [20:31] that just means you don't drink enough at a time :) [20:31] I had a bad experience with light rum and coke.......can't stomach the stuff, hence my distaste for sweet alcohol [20:31] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] indeed, I call myself hydration impaired. He does have to take care for sure, helped me too with the sweet tooth [20:31] like, I've never had one... though I do feel like crap every morning whether I drank or not, so maybe I have hangovers & just don't notice [20:31] I drink about half a gallon of water each day [20:31] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:31] sometimes more [20:31] good idea [20:31] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:32] I only do it because it causes you to piss a whole lot more, which is pretty fun [20:32] mikes hard or even rye and sugar coke makes it feel like my stomach is bleeding [20:32] http://www.shanzai.com/index.php/bandit-gadgets/media-players/467-exclusive-video-best-shanzhai-macbook-air-clone-reviewed ^^ [20:32] ha-ha [20:32] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:32] a macbook air clone which is better than the original one on several points and sells at 250 USD :D [20:32] hitest: Ty for your help earlier got the prob solved. [20:33] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] naex (n=naex@76-10-183-138.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Her0: np. you are welcome. glad you got it sorted out:) [20:34] hitest: yep, woulda been easier if i was told that slackpkg came with it and not to dl it. [20:34] hitest: bad on someon in linux channels part =-P [20:35] Her0: in general, if someone tells you "go install foo", you should "ls /var/adm/packages/*foo*" to see if maybe you already have it installed... [20:35] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [20:36] Her0: but yeah, if you're new, you can't magically already know this stuff [20:36] I thought it was /var/log/packages, Urchlay? [20:36] (or, if you can, let us in on your secret magical rites!) [20:37] naex: it is. /var/adm is a symlink to /var/log, and I don't seem to be able to break the habit of using it even though I think it's been deprecated for 10 years or so [20:38] Urchlay: Ahhh. Old habits die hard [20:38] hair of the dog naex, hair of the dog [20:38] Her0: in addition you could also fire up pkgtool and see what's installed on your unit [20:38] Urchlay: yeah, would have been best to check. [20:38] hitest: Okay Thanks =) [20:39] Huh, huh. He said "unit". Uhhh, huhhuh [20:39] lol [20:39] sher has, you know.... been around the block. huh huh huh [20:39] Just when u think you know linux, distro's have to go all seperatist on there packaging systems =P [20:40] viva swaret [20:40] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:40] On a sidenote thank god i don't have to mess with rpm.... =P [20:42] redhat package mangler? [20:42] deadrat [20:42] I used to call it "red hate" [20:43] never liked the OS myself, I always revert back to slack no matter what i do, although I'm using windows 7 right now [20:43] "once you go Slack, you never go back" [20:43] *only* because I'm giving my laptop to my lover [20:43] yep, I always come home to slack [20:44] is there a mips version of slackware? [20:44] dunno if there's anyone I love enough to give a laptop to, considering that everyone I've given a computer to always assumes I'm their personal tech-support bitch for life [20:44] naex: not an official one, no [20:44] naex: not sure if there's an unofficial one or not [20:44] Urchlay: I will be forever grateful for that [20:45] no way, lovers are fun dude as long as they're independant, not bitches [20:45] ..shes cool [20:46] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:47] Why does Konsole set back to default color scheme/ profile ever time its started =S [20:47] you need to save the profile first or create a new one? [20:47] set as default perhaps [20:47] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:48] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:48] create a new profile and set as default, I'm guessing? [20:48] Oh, okay, my bad... lol [20:48] Settings > Edit current profile [20:48] IT doesn't revert anything for me [20:48] It [20:49] More of a gnome/*box guy, kde's setup is new to me... [20:49] I used to be a fluxbox dude myself, getting into kde now because she has big titties [20:50] jager + red bull + cranberry juice is a good one [20:50] hi, how do you add an application to the kde4.2 search / app finder (alt -f2) when it's been installed without a slackbuilds script? i adobe reader, and it's there under the office section, but i'd like to know how to get it to pop up when i use alt f2 [20:50] nyRednek: to each and their own. jager + ice for me. as for cranberry fireball is good [20:50] Okay, maybe im overlooking it but where is set as default?? [20:51] blkdg: updatedb? [20:51] This day is making me feel stupider(is that a word) by the minute.... [20:51] but jager, by itself is nasty...i like some jack on ic [20:51] ice [20:51] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:51] oh, like slocate reroute ? i didn't think the two worked together. [20:51] ok. [20:51] let me try [20:52] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.52.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:53] Nvm, just made a new profile =P [20:53] blkdg: my experience, kde automatically noticies newly installed programs [20:53] Her0: maybe try settings--->manage profiles [20:54] Already did, worked fine. [20:54] updatingdb as we speak [20:54] In KDE 3.5 it was right off the edit option i believe =P [20:54] anyone want a google voice or wave invite? [20:54] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] juice: Speak no evil [20:55] lol [20:56] i'm still waiting for gmail video... [20:56] skype is getting buggy. [20:57] ugh, the one saving grace of telephones is that the other person can't see me [20:57] if I were forced to own a video phone, it'd have the lens spray-painted black within a week [20:58] me too, i just my phone to be a phone [20:58] spray paint is permanent, consider tape! [20:58] permanent is exactly what I'd want [20:59] saskatchewan is going to take montreal.. if there are any sports/canadian football fans here. Grey Cup! Urchlay: whatever happened to sitting down with someone joint not included [20:59] wave looks like google docs on steroids. [20:59] no pun. [20:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:59] reroute: sitting down with someone is fine [20:59] reroute, not a fan, but am a canuk [21:00] Action: hitest is also a canuck [21:00] soap (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) left ##slackware. [21:01] you guys are from canuckistan? [21:01] eh? [21:01] blkdg and hitest: ^5 Urchlay: yeah man! [21:01] :) [21:01] yep [21:02] ssk is killing mtl 20 to 10 [21:02] northern BC here [21:02] what town, virden? [21:02] terrace [21:02] what's canadian football like? US football, or UK football, or what? [21:02] Prince Rupert [21:02] reroute, the updatedb is done, and kde still can't see acroread with alt-f2 [21:02] Urchlay: 3 downs and a wider field and less players [21:03] maybe a dreaded reboot? [21:03] bigger ball Urchlay [21:03] Urchlay: that too! [21:03] but it's basically US-style football, not soccer (what they call football everywhere else)? [21:03] #slackware ^5 [21:04] yeah Urchlay, dude..for cerial? [21:04] huh? [21:05] dead body found drowned in milk with banana in mouth, must have been the work of a cereal killer? [21:05] it is the same in fact, most of our players get drafted to the NFL [21:05] Urchlay: lol [21:05] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-161-250.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] Urchlay: banana phone [21:06] ring ring ring [21:06] oh god, if a banana phone thing starts going in here my compiler will never be written >< [21:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:08] i want a shoephone like agent 86 [21:08] I want a working cone of silence [21:08] i want a friends =} [21:08] dTd (n=dTd@66.212.210.213) left irc: "Leaving" [21:09] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Action: hitest gives reroute a beer [21:10] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-184.cia.com) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [21:10] ^5 hitest: GO SSK! [21:10] :) [21:11] (Saskatchewan) for all u yanks [21:11] =) [21:12] the acronym is SK [21:12] yup, but CFL football sais SSK [21:13] Ok it's rage time. [21:14] I was in the middle of burning a dual layer DVD and someone in the building slammed a door so hard that it shook the whole place and ruined the burn. [21:14] antiwire: hehe [21:14] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:14] doors++ [21:15] antiwire: find the culprit and install ubuntu on his pc while he sleeps [21:16] hitest: that's not a punishment, if he was running windows. [21:16] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:16] heh-heh [21:16] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [21:17] with puppy wallpaper [21:17] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:17] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [21:17] why include stringi in kde4 anyways? [21:19] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@pool-71-164-74-70.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:19] cone of silence... might even be possible [21:20] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] why include stringi *with kde4 anyways? [21:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [21:23] Action: hitest heads to the dinner table...bbl [21:23] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:24] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:24] thanks again folks [21:24] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:25] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] I wish the people in #java were as nice as you guys [21:27] just sayin' [21:27] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:27] we now java too [21:27] but I can't spell [21:28] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] cmk_zzz: I found the answer, dung into the specs [21:28] anyone have any luck installing mypaint on slackware 12 (or any version, for that matter)? [21:28] dug [21:28] naex: I usually say, if you can't find the answer in ##slackware, it is not worth knowing [21:29] __gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] with usually I mean, this is the first time I've said it, obviously [21:29] cmk_zzz: You realize that you just opened the flood gate? heh [21:30] that's allright. I'll be out of here by then :P [21:30] But who will I get to help me with my homework! [21:31] "dung" into the specs? sounds about right, for java... [21:31] Urchlay: yeah that's why I asked in the channel [21:32] er, #java that is [21:32] think about the kind of mindset it takes to actually like java enough to want to idle in an irc channel dedicated to it... [21:33] well the alternatives are C, C++, and scheme [21:33] =( [21:33] Urchlay: in javas defence, that can probably be said about most channels here eh? [21:33] Action: Urchlay picks C [21:33] good choice [21:34] cmk_zzz: eh, I dunno, most people who run slackware do so because they like it... I couldn't imagine actually liking java (everybody uses it because they're forced to) [21:34] a197120 (i=4c1a5ad7@gateway/web/freenode/x-ouxgrxfdgqyrrfet) joined ##slackware. [21:34] I need help setting up my wireless card on slackware [21:34] C is a good language, but it makes life much harder [21:34] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "leaving" [21:34] Her0 also picks C [21:34] Urchlay: now you are being harsh. Java is not that bad! [21:34] LoL [21:34] I'm running an acer aspire 5515, just installed slack13, switch from vectorlinux [21:35] Java is awful, in my experience anywho... [21:35] . [21:35] a197120: did it work allright in vectorlinux? [21:35] cmk_zzz: *shrug*, I didn't say it's impossible to like java, I just can't wrap my head around the concept of liking it... anyone who does, I probably won't be able to communicate with meaningfully (they might as well be from Alpha Centauri) [21:35] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:35] a197120: wicd in the /extras directory on the slackware cd [21:35] yeah [21:35] out of the box [21:35] Of course my few Java experience is the 2 hrs and mathmatics behind making random shapes on a screen with JAVA (damn comp sci classes) [21:35] So I didn't have to set it up [21:36] Java isn't bad, it's just the lack of control you have [21:36] I don't know anything about setting up network cards, they've always worked for me. [21:36] deco (i=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [21:36] a197120: wicd in the /extras directory on the slackware cd [21:36] I would def recommend C/C++ over it though, and <3 Python [21:37] which disk is that on, 4? [21:37] Cause I only have the first three, and no way to download/burn the last one. [21:37] I wouldn't recommend C or C++ for something like a web app though... perl, python, php, probably in that order, would be my choices [21:37] a197120: the DVD or just go to wicd homepage [21:38] Hm. Yeah. I'll try downloading wicd and burning it to a cd on this computer, then installing it. [21:38] mostly because I'm lazy, and writing web apps in C (and securing them, and making them scalable, etc) is an awful lot of work [21:39] uh. webapps in C? [21:40] Nick change: ClaudioM -> ClaudiFullM [21:40] a197120: theres also wlassistant. burn the slack DVD or check the website for the /extras dir [21:40] i can think of very few more painful experiences [21:40] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-225-189.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:40] nachox: webapp in assembly would be more painful :) [21:40] nachox: It is quite common, and not necissarily that painful [21:40] reroute: The thing is, KDE and all that aren't even detecting the card. [21:40] just use php, java or asp .net, that's what they were invented for [21:40] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] reroute: Like, wpa-gui doesn't either. [21:40] a197120: just wget the /extras dir from a mirror [21:40] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-1-38.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] obviously you would have to invest some time to get a decent framework up [21:41] asp? tie yourself to a proprietary language on a proprietary platform? not I... [21:41] what up [21:41] language shoot-out [21:41] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:41] a197120: navagate to an online mirror and dl the wicd .txz package [21:42] reroute: alright [21:42] Urchlay, i'm very agnostic about that. if asp can get the job done fast and work properly i see not reason not to use it [21:42] a197120: If the wireless tools (iwconfig and iwlist) can't see it, then wicd can't either [21:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:43] nachox: job done fast? Probably. Work properly? [21:43] a197120: just get the package, it's in the /extras dir on the dvd [21:43] NaCl: iwconfig sees it [21:43] reroute: I am. I juist have to wait for this cd to burn [21:43] eh, I'm sure good ASP code works at least as well as good PHP, and I'm sure that you can write crap code in any language [21:43] (let's be honest, PHP is a bit of a mess) [21:43] a197120: roger [21:44] cmk_zzz, what? you're implying that it wont work properly because it's windows? [21:45] nachox: not really, more the language itself [21:45] oh oh wait! I have the standard answer "A large percentage of people in this channel make a living by supporting Windows servers and clients" [21:46] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Urchlay: Thus its branch from C lol [21:47] heya,slackers...how's everyone? [21:47] But for web based apps PHP is prob way to go... [21:47] heya MLanden, I'm great, thanks. How are you? [21:47] Not near the pain ASP is.... [21:48] %-) [21:48] great to hear,fire|bird...doin' fine for the evenin' thanks [21:48] cmk_zzz, i'll be straightforward here, i work as a security consultant here, and every time i see something like a sharepoint, i start looking for role based errors among accounts [21:49] that's the best i'll get [21:49] MLanden: ever tried tabu audio player? [21:49] fire|bird: yeah....nice skins [21:50] MLanden: yeah, I installed it last night. The menu is in a different language. I must have missed something. :P [21:51] nachox: what do you find? [21:51] xmms prevails [21:51] cmk_zzz, that's the whole point, the framework is very polished, so i have to start looking at errors in the configuration of the thing [21:51] fire|bird: let me check [21:52] MLanden: for example, the plus sign, when clicked, the two entries for it are in a different language. [21:52] <__gabriel__> hi hi!, someone knows if exists a slackbuild to compiz? [21:53] __gabriel__: slackware has compiz, the extras for it are at slackbuilds.org, however the latest is for slackware 12.2, but in my experience, they work fine on 13. [21:53] fire|bird: building the latest source [21:53] <__gabriel__> mmm thanks! [21:53] there are SlackBuilds for 12.2 that can be tweaked to work on slackware 13/ [21:54] XGizzmo_: I didn't have to weak at all on 32bit, but did for 64bit. [21:54] correct [21:55] reroute: It's working [21:55] reroute: Thanks bub [21:56] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:56] a197120 (i=4c1a5ad7@gateway/web/freenode/x-ouxgrxfdgqyrrfet) left irc: "Page closed" [21:56] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:57] nachox: Do you ever use things like Framework or Nessus? [21:57] antiwire, yes [21:58] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-162-69.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] I've found Nessus and Framework to be pretty helpful in proving points to clients [21:58] antiwire, they are good at doing the tedious work. [21:59] I'm the first to admit that I am no exploit coder but being able to demonstrate real world problems to people helps. [22:00] antiwire, hehe, my thoughts exactly [22:01] antiwire, most of the time, it's just things that someone left misconfigured [22:01] antiwire, that's all i can tell :P [22:01] ;) [22:01] you don't have to kill him now do you? [22:02] I know noothing! [22:02] Action: fire|bird sets up waterboarding equipment. :o [22:02] wow, you've done that before [22:02] fire|bird: in the source....in tabu-control.c..just change those titles to what you want [22:03] MLanden: ah, awesome. Thanks. [22:03] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:03] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:03] fire|bird: messing with it now..:P [22:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [22:03] which terminal emulator recommend me that supports vim 256 colors templates ? [22:04] cmk_zzz, nah, i just have to be careful with what i say. and i cannot mention the name of any client [22:04] s/recommend me/should i use [22:04] in X any terminal emulator will do 256 colors, in the console you need vesa [22:04] Anyone know how i can mount Windows partition in slack? [22:04] tried mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/Windows [22:04] Her0, what filesystem is that partition using? [22:04] thanks Pig_Pen [22:05] ntfs [22:05] does /mnt/Windows exist? [22:05] Smallgoat (n=andy@host81-135-84-191.range81-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "off" [22:05] i made it =P [22:06] I keep getting mount: /dev/sda2 is not a block device, and stat fails? [22:06] Her0, what does fdisk -l say? [22:06] as root please [22:06] paste it in pastebin [22:07] Her0: you might have to format before you mount [22:07] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [22:07] U want all the info from it? [22:07] it it's fresh.. [22:07] *if [22:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] yes please, i want to see the output of that [22:08] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [22:08] http://pastebin.ca/1693388 [22:08] and you dont need to format anything if you value your data [22:09] Exactly. [22:09] LoL [22:09] ok, ls -l /dev/sda2 [22:09] does that return anything? [22:09] fire|bird: Just change +Archivo to +Add File and +Carpeta to +Add Folder..:D [22:09] /bin/ls: cannot access /dev/sda2: Input/output error [22:09] MLanden: Thanks :) [22:10] Her0, is that disk actually working? ie, is it not broken? [22:10] fire|bird: nice light app and cool orange skin [22:10] MLanden: yeah, really nice. [22:10] No, not broken...i tested after slack install [22:10] what did you test? [22:11] it's an odd error [22:11] I mean i booted into it after installing slack. [22:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] One sec i might know the problem, brb [22:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:11] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-5-158-64.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:12] Action: nachox bets the guy created partition and did not reboot the box to have the changes applied to /dev [22:12] MLanden, what app? [22:12] nachox: tabu audio player [22:13] what if he just restarts the udev daemon, wont that pick up the new disk partition?? [22:13] input/output is bad. [22:14] error that is [22:14] never ever heard of it [22:14] you've never seen that error on linux? [22:14] it usually means something on the disk is not consistent or that the disk is broken [22:14] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:15] it's pretty the most generic error for 'your filesystem has gone haywire' [22:15] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [22:16] ls /dev/sda2 shouldn't result in that error, regardless of whether your /dev tree has that entry or not [22:16] you have to love linux [22:16] yep. god forbid you actually try to yank a device from underneath a filesystem [22:17] wait a sec [22:17] hehe [22:17] what is /dev/sda? a hard drive or something like a USB stick? Maybe the filesystem is on the device directly (/dev/sda instead of /dev/sda2)? [22:17] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:17] no [22:18] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] that's why i asked for the output of fdisk -l [22:18] what does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" show? (if it's a bunch of warnings/errors, that's an indication that it's not really a partitioned device) [22:18] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:20] I just used ddrescue to save someone's butt... 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 140 140 140 Pre-fail Always FAILING_NOW 476 [22:20] 476 reallocated sectors already [22:20] ouch [22:21] It is a Vista Home Premium system and amazingly enough it still boots after I cloned it over to a new disk [22:21] I haven't assessed the overall damage though [22:21] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] Nick change: ClaudiFullM -> ClaudiOhSoFullM [22:21] Kind of hard to tell if it is odd disk errors or normal behaviour [22:21] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [22:21] not it is not [22:21] no* [22:22] it is certainly not normal at all to have reallocated and/or pending sectors. [22:22] anyway, off to bed, night everyone [22:22] night [22:22] mshade (n=mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] good night nachox [22:23] I healthy disk should report 0 for Reallocated_Sector_Ct, Reallocated_Event_Count, Current_Pending_Sector and Offline_Uncorrectable [22:23] night,nachox [22:23] bah, that's bshit, sectors fail all the time, [22:23] That is not bullshit [22:23] that's why disks have so many of them :P [22:24] if a disk starts to actually report them in SMART, it is failing. [22:24] If a disk reports anything but zero for those attributes any manufacturer would accept that as a reason to exercise the warranty [22:25] fire|bird: also...you can change -Todo to -Delete All and -Selecion(ie) to -Delete Selected in tabu-control.c [22:25] hrrr, anyone know anything about PCI latency? [22:26] supposed to be able to tweak things with setpci, I've got one device that doesn't seem to be tweakable [22:26] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:26] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [22:26] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:26] What it comes down to is that those four specific attributes mean the media has exhausted background reallocation areas and is now forced to temporarily halt actual work to find areas that can be used for reallocation, if reallocation is even possible (the area could just be totally unreadable at that point). [22:28] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:31] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:32] antiwire: could one solve the problem by reformatting? [22:32] depends on what is actually wrong in your case [22:32] in the case of the disk info I pasted, no [22:33] it is physical damage and while reformatting could let you use the disk...it will fail soon. not if, when [22:33] a197120 (n=iconn@c-76-26-90-215.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] wb a197120 [22:33] Thanks. [22:33] new problem? [22:33] Nope. [22:33] =( [22:34] Haha. [22:34] I can make one if you'd like ;) [22:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] drugs are bad mmmk [22:34] like coffee and chocolate? [22:35] tank-man: not if you have a woman [22:35] chocolate and vodka [22:35] i find chocolat dries em out [22:35] heh: http://ubuntard.com/2009/11/choosing-an-os-is-not-a-team-sport/ [22:35] Nick change: ClaudiOhSoFullM -> ClaudioM [22:35] this is pretty good [22:35] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-5-138-22.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] fire|bird: build ok? [22:36] nachox: back, windows wanted to check disk consistency, did that and booted in windows, worked fine, rebooted linux tried mount no luck still [22:36] rails (n=rails@59.94.190.122) joined ##slackware. [22:38] MLanden: yeah, thanks. :) [22:38] fire|bird: cool [22:38] antiwire: sounds like domestic abuse [22:39] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] I'm in the middle of a massive rsync now [22:40] sleepytime [22:40] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] urbanterror time, any of u folks play? [22:41] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [22:42] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [22:42] reroute: somehow I read that as: ununtuerror time, and I certainly do not play! [22:42] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-117.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] cmk_zzz: put on ur glasses then cause i'll pawn u for beer money on paladins server [22:43] EgoX (i=01@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:43] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:43] team survivor [22:44] reroute: sorry am at work, must work... (however odd that is) [22:44] u know... [22:44] sure you'll be there whatever nick u own [22:45] anyways ^5 #slackware love u guys, stay cool. urt time [22:46] peace in the middle east. I help somebody today! karma rulz [22:46] o_O [22:47] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:49] anyone had trouble getting the virtualbox-kernel slackbuild to work? it gives me an error on vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.c [22:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.175) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:53] a197120 (n=iconn@c-76-26-90-215.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:55] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] greetings and salutations [22:55] heya,andarius [22:55] salutations MLanden, how goes ? [22:55] good thanks andarius...you? [22:56] I survived the holiday traffic today so not too bad ;) [22:56] andarius: long drive? [22:56] not really. about 340 miles [22:57] deco (i=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [22:57] andarius: not too bad....hope it was an enjoyable time [22:57] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [22:58] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:58] the drive, absolutely not. however since it was to get the kid it was surely worth it :) [22:59] andarius: cool [23:01] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:05] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:06] reroute (n=joe@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:07] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [23:07] :o i got xterm to use the clipboard buffer [23:07] \o/ [23:08] Terminal ftw :P [23:09] andarius: ++ [23:09] -_- [23:10] Mibaezjr2k (n=Mibaezjr@adsl-85-32-213.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] what program opens pdfs from full slackware install? can't find one [23:11] xpdf [23:11] naex: okular [23:11] okular, if you have kde installed or xpdf [23:11] thanks mates [23:11] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Dominian, trying openfiler [23:18] jeev: cool [23:18] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-161-250.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:18] only thing is i wish i could share iscsi between multiple computers [23:18] real time but i guess itw asn't made for that [23:19] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. 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[23:42] rworkman: is there any way to theme the 'xflock4' that locks the X session , the default one looks sooo ugly , may be because its calling 'xscreensaver-command -lock' as it that is part of x [23:42] anyone know why some particular slackbuild script doesnt show slack-desc even though it appears in the tgz file [23:43] oobe: usually because the string at the start of each slack-desc line doesn't match the filename of the package [23:43] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:43] how do youa dd more fortunes to the fortune database? [23:43] Urchlay, thanks i will check that out [23:43] you add* [23:44] if the package is called "foobar", each actual line of the description ought to start with 'foobar:' (and it's case-sensitive, FooBar is different from foobar, etc) [23:44] toastytoast: examine the script here: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/games/fortune_firefly/ [23:46] it'd also help to look at the format of existing fortune files: they're separated by a line consisting only of a % sign [23:46] Urchlay, any other reasons you can think of [23:47] ok thx [23:47] too many lines in slack-desc? [23:47] oobe: eh, not off the top of my head. You're saying when you installpkg your package, it doesn't show the slack-desc during the install, right? [23:47] (I mean I haven't totally misunderstood the problem, right?) [23:48] Urchlay, yea exactly [23:48] you understand [23:49] rails (n=rails@59.94.190.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:50] hrrrm, maybe it's a DOS-style text file, with \r\n at the end of each line instead of just \n? (I don't know whether this even matters for slack-desc files, but it's worth checking out) [23:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [23:51] i need an alternative for an old system running pfsense [23:51] like a little little device [23:51] 4 ethernet would be good [23:51] any suggestions ? [23:51] jeev: what the heck is pfsense? :) [23:51] www.pfsense.com [23:52] i dunno, gui and shit stuff [23:52] multi-wan capabilities, firewall settings and a bunch of shit in [23:52] one [23:52] eh, I mean what *is* it, at the most basic level? a firewall? [23:53] ahh, "pfSense is a free, open source customized distribution of FreeBSD tailored for use as a firewall and router"... [23:53] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:54] howcome you can't keep using pfsense, and have to replace it? [23:55] look at routerboards for Gateworks [23:55] for/or [23:55] http://www.routerboard.com/ [23:55] the computer is annoying [23:55] the dedicated computer i use [23:56] or http://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=2 [23:56] hw.model: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1.70GHz [23:56] it's loud, power usage [23:56] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:57] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [23:59] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [00:00] --- Mon Nov 30 2009