[00:00] mwalling: i will try.... thanks for everything guys ;) [00:00] The-Croupier: thow a controled hissy fit, might (might, sometimes) get you beyond the L1 drones [00:01] mwalling: its too early in the day, and im doing 4 things at the same time.... i would appreciate it if you talked a little bit more simple in a pm or something ;) [00:01] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:01] mwalling: really appreciate the help/ideas ;) [00:01] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [00:03] nooper (~nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [00:08] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [00:12] goj (~goj@p5488F5B5.dip.t-dialin.net) got netsplit. [00:12] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-mqygjhiakfsnesny) got netsplit. [00:12] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) got netsplit. 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[02:16] I just changed the Windows logo on my laptop's super key to a GNU head :) [02:16] RMS would be proud [02:17] kickback: /j #gnu and tell them [02:17] did you order a replacement key, or did you do one yourself? :) [02:17] slava_dp: i had a bunch of blank labels lying around, and i thought i'd print a gnu head small enough to cover the super key [02:18] its not very good quality, but better than having a windows logo [02:18] ah, so it's a label, the easiest way :-) [02:22] just buy IBM [02:23] its a lenovo, so its kind of ibm.. i guess [02:23] ah [02:23] Action: slava_dp wants a blank das keyboard :-( [02:25] Action: sahko wants a blank cheque from slava_dp [02:26] uh? why? :-D [02:26] phoenix^ (~quassel@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Laughing on the outside while you're dying on the inside. [02:27] so i can fill the amount myself [02:27] thats a badass keyboard [02:28] yes it is. 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[03:30] darkwurm (~darkwurm@71-20-34-101.war.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Changing host [03:30] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [03:31] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:34] MekMan (~Slackware@178.Red-79-148-252.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [03:34] hi folks! [03:35] hello [03:35] bacal (~default@cpe-67-49-159-206.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:35] identify yourself: friend or foe ? [03:36] foe! [03:36] Action: C00re is here to zombie fest on you [03:36] noooooo !!! [03:36] mmmmm, brain... [03:37] nom nom nom [03:37] *shotgun blast to the chest* [03:37] aaahhhh [03:37] where is your zombie god now? [03:37] you cant stop us all! [03:37] for every kill, there rise 20 more! [03:37] zombie god? jesus [03:37] ?? [03:38] hah! i was just using 2% of my power [03:38] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:00] result [04:03] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) joined ##slackware. [04:04] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:06] test2 [04:07] result2 [04:07] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Laughing on the outside while you're dying on the inside. [04:08] test3 [04:08] lorenzocabrini (~lc@41.191.244.70) joined ##slackware. [04:08] ok I give in, what are you testing? [04:09] morning o/ =) [04:09] dive, testing that he can spell test? ;) [04:09] I'm testing peoples reactions to me typing "test" [04:09] and that the numpad works. [04:12] ping [04:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@196.201.218.252) joined ##slackware. [04:14] ping [04:15] hideki: ? [04:15] hi [04:16] /j #test [04:16] no pong? [04:16] I can't smell anything [04:16] :D [04:17] anyone installed/tested status.net yet? [04:19] lorenzocabrini (~lc@41.191.244.70) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:19] Morn [04:19] morning Zordrak [04:19] <_RadioHead> Morning Zordrak [04:20] lorenzocabrini (~lc@41.191.244.70) joined ##slackware. [04:20] phrag: As soon as I said it, Jesse released 3.9.4, the first 4.0 dev release.. [04:21] Zordrak: ooh, of what? 8o) [04:21] RT [04:21] can anybody smell that ? [04:21] The release that up to now was classified as vapourware [04:22] ooh, what did you say to spur that? [04:22] And should contain built in LDAP auth capabilities [04:22] Can you smell the vapour from the vapourware ? [04:22] phrag: I'm guessing it's just a koinkidink [04:23] good game =) [04:23] But to celebrate, I'm wearing my BestPractical t-shirt [04:23] haha [04:23] it says "My free software runs your company" -- was a present to thank me for the ldap work [04:23] so what happened to prompt that.. was it anything i was harping on about heh [04:23] slck-o (~cris@189.26.12.121.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:23] hahaha, i like that [04:23] phrag: no i dont think so [04:23] Zordrak: hah, nice [04:24] And my lunch will be the 2nd half of the pizza i had last night :) [04:24] good day [04:24] did you get 2 for tuesdaqy!? [04:24] heh [04:24] we got 2 for tuesday from pappa johns lastnight [04:24] was the awesome [04:24] rSlacke (~cris@201.86.39.240.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:24] nah its a local.. but its damn good. 12" stuffed crust pepperoni [04:25] i did have to give the GF a telling off today for trying to fit an oversize pizza box in the fridge! haha [04:25] AND, 200 boxes will be arriving on site today containing 50x laptops, laptop stands, 22" monitors and docking station [04:25] phrag: lol [04:25] Zordrak: that's too much for one man [04:25] no shit [04:26] ... [04:26] however i am getting one helping hand for the day [04:26] hideki: yes, your irc client works.. move along [04:26] just one... freaky [04:26] k [04:26] Zordrak: don't have a nice PFY do that that work for you ? [04:26] its basically gonna be an unboxing day start to finish. thats the hardest bit [04:26] surrounder: no.. been alone here for years [04:27] a sole member of the IT dept for a wireless silicon chip design company [04:27] 70-odd staff to it [04:27] that's job security [04:27] watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) left irc: Quit: changing servers [04:27] heh, 'sept we've been bought [04:27] if your the only one that knows the shit... hard to fire you [04:27] watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) joined ##slackware. [04:27] and they NEED be for the migration stuff.. afterc that (2 years) its up to them what they do with me [04:28] think ill be remotely working out of a design datacentre in Neijmagen [04:28] (sp?) [04:28] we just migrated 2 datacenters.. i know how that goes =P [04:28] Zordrak: Nijmegen, netherland ? [04:28] *netherlands [04:28] that in hnetherlands? [04:28] yusyus [04:28] nijmegen is [04:28] cool.. i've been thinking about moving to netherlands o.0 [04:28] where the good ganja be got? [04:28] my brother lives in Nijmegen, nice city [04:29] studenttown with a shortage of men (Y) [04:29] sounds perfect ;) [04:29] HQ is in Eindhoven, where I'm going next week (my first trip off these shores in 10 years).. datacentres all over the place on a big global WAN [04:30] So.. hence all the new equipment and me triple-monitoring atmw [04:31] phrag: netherlands or amsterdam? :P [04:32] Don't suppose anyone knows how you can buy train tickets in the netherlands from the UK using a credit card? [04:32] Can only find options for people with dutch bank accounts [04:32] surrounder: amsterdam is a bit grubby and hectic with all the tourists [04:32] phrag: indeed [04:32] just outside is nice, or rotterdam [04:32] Zordrak: uhm, let me check [04:32] i do love the netherlands though [04:32] phrag: rotterdam!? :P [04:32] silly phrag [04:32] Zordrak: we should drink a beer then [04:33] alienBOB: if you're up for it, sure! [04:33] went to a hacking festival in the south netherlands few years ago, beatiful countryside [04:33] I live in Eindhoven [04:33] phrag: I remember that... I was too late to sign up [04:33] arch_enthusiast (~arch_enth@unaffiliated/arch-enthusiast/x-8276453) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:33] It was 5 kilometers from my house [04:33] no way! [04:33] surrounder: i know its pretty easy to deal with at the station.. but its easier if the company can buy my ticket direct rather than me expensing it [04:33] you should of just hacked the fence =P [04:34] Yah [04:34] Zordrak: yeah imaginable [04:34] well i'm sure i'll be making a trip there in the near future... we should all get very drunk somewhere =) [04:34] I'm for it :P [04:34] drinking is wrong [04:34] remember Slackcon!? [04:34] It is putting a known carcinogen into your body [04:35] You are in effect, poisoning yourself [04:35] years ago we were thinking about a mini slackware convention in EU somewhere [04:35] a few beers in singelgebied [04:35] phrag: how about south yorkshire :) [04:35] patrick offered his back garden for the convention, but US was bit far [04:36] indeedily [04:36] ideal! i'm well up for helping organise a mini slackcon! [04:36] Zordrak: nshispeed.nl [04:36] i dont suggest south yorks JUST because it means dont have to pay to travel ;) [04:36] aye aye =P [04:36] Zordrak: londen, st pancras -> eindhoven [04:36] Zordrak: seems you can pay through visa and mastercard [04:36] surrounder: im flying to amsterdam [04:37] ah I see [04:37] then gotta get a train to Eindhoven [04:37] I hope your not planning to have a smoke there ? [04:37] hmmm good idea [04:37] almost time for a smoke [04:37] the only flights to Eindhoven from Amsterdam go through london city(!!) [04:37] hideki: shush [04:37] Zordrak: think i should stick with RT 3.8.8 for this new deployment ? [04:37] why ? [04:37] I have the moral high ground here. [04:37] phrag: oh hell yeah.. 4 wont be /ready/ for some time [04:38] hideki: take your high horse on a trot [04:38] cool =) [04:38] Just because you don't want to admit that smoking and drinking is wrong. They are sins. [04:39] hideki: I love to admit they're wrong, it's really nice though! [04:39] surrounder: the site says theres 7 stations in amsterdam! [04:39] Zordrak: that's true [04:39] hideki: so is most of life, get over it [04:39] which one's in or near Schiphol? [04:39] Zordrak: schiphol :P [04:39] has it's own trainstation [04:39] orite [04:39] Action: Zordrak tries again [04:39] Hmmm... I didn't think of it that way... [04:40] yeh, that takes you into amsterdam and most places [04:40] Zordrak: I'm up for a beer as well, if you have time to stay in Amsterdam for a while :) [04:40] noticed the main business district is on the way from schipol to amsterdam [04:40] same here, always up for a beer [04:40] right... looks like a Slackware convention in Amsterdam is on the cards =) [04:41] First job of the day - mail in to ask why ink takes so long to dry on glossy paper. [04:41] :wq [04:41] phrag: :D [04:41] phrag: given a seriously big amount of notice that might be good [04:41] HQ in Rosse Buurt [04:41] hehe [04:41] absolutely, i'm really up for it =) [04:41] surrounder: "you cannot book domestic travel through nshispped.nl" [04:41] bluh [04:42] Zordrak: can't you just buy it there and make the company pay for it later ? [04:42] won't be that expensive anyway [04:42] surrounder: yes.. its just a pain :) [04:43] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:43] eur 17.90 from schiphol to eindhoven [04:43] seems daft that you can buy tickets online and print them... but you can only pay online from a dutch bank acct [04:43] sounds like the NS :P [04:44] perhaps to stifle traffickers o.0 [04:44] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:45] surrounder: you're from Amsterdam? [04:45] Does anybody want to hear the word of the lord ? 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[04:50] surrounder: ah [04:50] Action: adamx_ passes some greens to phrag [04:50] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-44-202.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:50] pprkut: about an hour away from Amsterdam, gotta love such a small country :) [04:50] my momma always said to get your green veggies in [04:50] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) joined ##slackware. [04:51] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-44-202.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Coffee made. [04:54] 10 minutes to conference call (again) [04:55] my workmate was late to work, and my boss said he was picking up breakfast.. so i texted him my order.. turns out he was never going to get breakfast, but went and got my a bacon butty... which made him even later [04:55] Action: phrag is racked with guilt [04:55] lol [04:55] haha [04:56] guilt is for wusses :) [04:58] ..and on the day that all the bosses are up from London to discuss our redundancy/relocation [04:58] timing.. i has none =P [04:58] http://skeptisys.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/smoking_keyboard_01.jpg [04:58] jesus [04:59] i do has bacon though >< [04:59] bacon ftw [04:59] adamx_: yeh, that's an old one [05:00] hideki (~none@188-222-36-81.zone13.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Action: hideki returns with his high horse [05:02] anybody? [05:03] phrag: Thundercats, HO! ? [05:03] Sheerar was spotted in MacDonalds [05:04] anyone good with generating keys with openssl ? [05:04] http://stash.norml.org/wp-content/uploads/bong-baby.jpg [05:04] who was the little cat thing in thudercats [05:04] Snarf!! [05:04] snL20: its pretty self-explanatory [05:04] Zordrak: I just need to know how to specify the cipher to use [05:04] I've brought my high horse back... [05:04] Zordrak: I want 256 bit aes instead of 128 [05:05] its the enc command [05:05] snl20: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/new_attack_on_a.html [05:05] Zordrak: ok thanks i'll check it [05:05] owait [05:06] snL20: -aes-256-cbc [05:06] According to Schneier, AES256 can actually be less secure than AES128 [05:06] or [05:06] snL20: -aes-256-cfb8 [05:06] He recommends AES128 [05:07] theres more than that actually [05:07] hideki: seriously ? =) [05:07] bah.. its all in the docs anyway [05:07] Yes [05:07] adamx_ (~orca@66.88.73.194.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:08] hideki: that's pretty old though.. 2009 [05:09] hmm, i thought it was that 256 was no more secure than 128 ? [05:09] AES is an algorithm [05:09] hideki: you dont say =P [05:09] as once successfully attacked, the key size was not relevant ? [05:09] It's meant to be, but 192 and 256 bit have weak implementations [05:09] i may have got the wrong end of the stick [05:09] meh.. AES it then blowfish the AES :) [05:10] Not a serious one, it's just recommended that 128-bit now be used instead [05:10] hideki: in 2009 [05:10] :] [05:11] Well as far as I am aware, this will affect future implementations. It is not just a single program [05:11] i love that the US 'invented and tried to patent' RSA, then the UK turned round and said, oh yeah... we invented that 20 years ago but didn't tell anyone =P [05:12] http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/new_attack_on_a.html [05:12] 11:03 < snL20> Zordrak: ok thanks i'll check it [05:12] 11:04 < Zordrak> owait [05:12] Channel flood from snL20 -- kicking [05:12] 11:04 < Zordrak> snL20: -aes-256-cbc [05:12] snL20 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [05:13] phrag: lol [05:14] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [05:14] :P [05:14] damn paste! [05:15] Note that if you are using AES with CBC, you should also use ESSIV [05:15] or even better, use XTS mode instead [05:16] hideki: are you just pasting shit you find on google to try to sound like you know what you're talking about, so you don't get kicked out, so you can spout your evangelical crap? [05:16] No. I have read up on this before. [05:17] what I used to generate the key was: openssl req -x509 -nodes -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout /etc/ssl/private/pure-ftpd.pem -out /etc/ssl/private/pure-ftpd.pem [05:18] Although it is believed that twofish is more secure, I would probably go with AES if I had AES-NI (as some newer processors do). [05:18] you use openssl enc something to select the cipher first ? [05:19] snL20: openssl enc -aes256 [05:19] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:20] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:20] Zordrak: well it asks for encryption password... [05:20] snL20: im confused.. are you trying to generate a key, or encrypt something? [05:20] as as far as i know they are different activities [05:20] Zordrak: I want an x509 cert for my ftpd [05:21] Zordrak: look at the command I used above [05:21] then.. why would you be using aes? [05:22] If using RSA BTW, you want to use at least 2048-bit [05:22] Zordrak: cause aes is the cipher used ... [05:22] 1024-bit will probably be broken in the near future (768 already has been factored). [05:24] Zordrak: the symmetric cipher iirc [05:24] toothkit (~betch2k@66.87.1.35) joined ##slackware. [05:25] but isnt the whole point of a certificate that it is an assymetric system? [05:25] hence the use of rsa (as per your cammond) [05:25] *command [05:25] Look, you don't want to use RSA1024, I'm just warning you [05:25] Zordrak: well using just an assymetric cipher would be slow [05:26] I *love* conference calls where im listening to two people both alternating in saying "yes i agree, but " while neither actually understands what the other is saying [05:26] lol [05:28] ..............aaaand then finally the light breaks and the one thats wrong realises what the other guy means [05:28] adamx_ (~adamx_@66.88.73.194.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [05:28] blacked out today from too much booze and prescription meds [05:28] no clue what I did for 5 hours--not fun [05:30] Action: hideki has lost his high horse [05:30] ... my horse ran away [05:31] fucking scary if you ask me [05:31] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. 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[06:43] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.27.193) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:46] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [06:58] Mowah (1000@c-d181e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:59] Anyone wanna get a look on my website? [07:00] sure [07:00] dive, http://primarydataloop.homelinux.net/ [07:01] Does the weather app find your city? If not it does a random state. [07:01] er random city from your state. [07:02] (wip) [07:02] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:03] loading the background is freakishly long and useless [07:04] I suppose. [07:04] byteframe, I like it - it's a very novel design [07:04] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] background didn't take long to load for me [07:05] Thanks. [07:05] only thing I can point out is your spelling [07:05] That backgruond it quite large, I should resize it. [07:06] and grammar. 'thanks to you for being look on my site' is painful [07:06] yeah very nice, only the bottom needs to be on top imo [07:06] I know. That's a lack of content. still doing php doodads. [07:06] and right on the left [07:07] lastly, vast majority of population doesn't care what tools were used to create a website, and they especially do not care to see that information occupy a large chunk of a front page [07:07] i guess i operate the opposite way you do [07:07] ananke: yeah thats why bottom needs to go on top [07:08] while timezone is getting picked up, weather shows up NY and says international fail [07:08] Isnt the markup purty? [07:08] sahko, Where you at? [07:08] It didn't find my weather location either [07:08] byteframe: greece [07:09] sahko, International fail. [07:09] :P [07:09] sorry, I'm groking the simple national weather service thing. [07:10] us only atm. [07:10] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:10] whats that black and white logo? [07:11] from some older pewter game. [07:11] puter* [07:12] nice indentation [07:13] I think it's an interesting design but I wonder how much info you can get inside a small box like that [07:13] not exactly practical [07:14] and last, but not least, having layout conform to a narrow 4:3 is getting to be nuisance these days [07:14] I think about that all the time. [07:14] but as a concept it's good [07:14] Luckily I have no content. [07:14] many people still use 4:3 [07:15] As do I. [07:15] dive: this is more narrow than 4:3 [07:15] yeah [07:15] The content div (biggest) and black logo are each 4:3 resolutions. [07:16] byteframe: we're talking about layout of the page. images do not change aspect ratios [07:16] but having long lines of text sprawl across a page in widescreen is hard to read [07:16] The design is 764 pixels wide [07:16] columns are good [07:16] but I hate having to sidescroll [07:16] as do most people [07:17] dive: yep [07:17] m3tti (~m3tti@p4FC56379.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] I fiqure the 1024x768 was the standard. [07:17] But thats maximized. [07:17] rodrigo_golive (c8116f03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.17.111.3) joined ##slackware. [07:17] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:18] I always try to keep to a layout that fits within 1024 [07:18] byteframe: and on my small laptop that occupies only half of the width of my screen [07:18] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [07:18] YOu kids and your netbuks. [07:19] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:20] adamx_ (~adamx_@66.88.73.194.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:20] the everyday distro hopper is back :-( [07:20] i can't get rid of slackware damn why the hell is the distro so nice ??? [07:21] flattery will get you everywhere [07:21] m3tti: how about sticking with it [07:22] xD surrounder thats an idea [07:22] never thought about it XD [07:24] sometimes i get bored so i try to run another distro but than i come back and feel at home XD [07:24] virtualization is a nice option to try something else [07:26] but i like to run things nativly [07:27] ok. [07:27] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-78-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:27] but i'm willing to stay this time [07:27] the new semester is starting next week [07:27] so i've less time [07:30] "dispectible me" may be a great movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_rUbqbhUEQ [07:34] m3tti, setting up kvm is a nice project, make sure your bios supports the cpu instructions, svm etc. [07:35] Buggaboo: my bios doesn't support that but it would be nice [07:35] have heard a lot about that [07:35] you don't need VT support for running multiple distros if you use xen [07:35] not sure about kvm [07:36] xen is a whole system by itself. [07:36] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:36] kvm can run without those instructions, but you'd be basically running qemu vanilla. [07:36] aah okay [07:37] don't have any experience with kvm [07:37] I read lxc is in the mainstream kernel now too, also quite interesting [07:37] lxc [07:37] ??? [07:37] m3tti: http://lxc.sourceforge.net/ [07:37] m3tti, try qemu-legacy + kqemu from slackbuilds.org [07:38] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [07:38] i know kqemu but it wasn't perty fast [07:39] well it will never be as fast as native [07:39] but faster than vanilla qemu [07:39] the best experience is with virtualbox [07:39] that's a matter of opinion [07:40] dive: right [07:40] I don't need nor want a gui [07:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:41] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [07:42] tsccof (~tsccof@200-102-89-171.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:42] morning [07:42] morning [07:42] morning tsccof [07:42] how are you folks? [07:43] great i'm right back from my journey to trisquel and fedora XD [07:44] m3tti: how did that turn out? [07:45] heh great, another debian spinoff [07:46] vbox has the easiest setup procedure. [07:46] archcezar (1000@absr35.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:46] slackware is way better it is eyecandy and you could do everything XD [07:46] and go deeper into the system [07:46] but since getting bought by sun, then oracle, they haven't been updating much. [07:47] did you hear about that libreoffice [07:47] it's a spinoff of openoffice [07:47] what's gonna happen with go-oo.org [07:47] m3tti: the eyecandy has nothing to do with the distro [07:47] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Buggaboo: its already been deprecated [07:47] archcezar (1000@agg60.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:47] most distro's appear to sell openoffice, but underneath it's mostly go-oo patches. [07:47] in favour of libreoffice [07:47] ah. [07:48] Buggaboo: no linux distro ship vanilla openoffice since at least 2 years ago iirc [07:48] surrounder: right but many distros are customizing their desktops so much that you have to switch everything back [07:48] 'sell'? [07:48] they all ship(ed) go-oo [07:48] dive, advertise. [07:49] at least from the mainstream, corporate backed ones [07:49] lorenzocabrini (~lc@41.191.244.70) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:49] m3tti: gotta love vanilla [07:49] vanilla is the best way [07:49] even for developers like blizzard or something else [07:50] openoffice vanilla was slow, bloated in my experience. [07:50] that whole custom stuff is crap because of that there are no games thats my oppinion [07:50] yeah libreoffice will launch faster than superman [07:50] oh, and that whole fracas about not accepting algorithms to solve linear programming problems. [07:54] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. 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[08:48] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:50] time to wrap my head around sendmail [08:51] no [08:51] wrap your head around postfix [08:56] sendmail is not straight forward [08:56] well i could, but most our boxes use sendmail, so worth owning it [08:56] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [08:58] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:00] http://captainhaggy.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/libreoffice-1st-view/ [09:01] first view from someone who installed libreoffice [09:01] is that in vietnamese? [09:02] don't know i've only found an english version [09:02] i think localization is on their to-do [09:03] i mean the article [09:04] no sahko its german [09:04] XD [09:05] ok, same [09:05] m3tti, summarize the conclusion for us [09:05] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [09:06] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [09:06] ok one moment i've to read that first XD [09:08] we should wait for using it [09:08] theres not much text anyway. mostly pics [09:09] the beta has some minimal bugs and the author hopes that in the next 24 hours localisations would be ready [09:09] only changed branding [09:10] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.253) joined ##slackware. [09:11] wtf is all this dnl crap before and after each line [09:12] i predict it will be a total success [09:12] well as much as an office clone can be, that is.. [09:13] of course it will. it wont be that different from OOo/go-oo though [09:14] how can that be, from what i see the build infrastructure is already quite different from OOo [09:14] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:14] its go-oo [09:15] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.253) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:15] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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[10:12] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:12] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] sysvinit is easy enough to understand completely in a few minutes [10:14] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Client Quit [10:15] foot eater! [10:16] SystemD! [10:17] foot eater? [10:18] not unless you've grown up with slack/bsd =) [10:20] arfon: nerd meeting night wtf [10:20] suvir (~suvir@ppp-124-120-128-50.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [10:21] Urugami (~AndChat@177.sub-97-198-61.myvzw.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:21] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:23] phrag: what?? :PP [10:25] nerd-meeting = LUG meeting [10:26] Where we go and we ostrascize people's choices of distros. [10:27] Great fun [10:27] XD [10:27] ok [10:27] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:27] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [10:28] hiptobecubic (~john@a75089.upc-a.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:28] hiptobecubic (~john@a75089.upc-a.chello.nl) left irc: Changing host [10:28] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:29] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Quit: And I can't put the needle in... [10:30] Ig0r (~user@ip-13.net-85.239.155.ktbac.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:31] anyone is using kernel-2.6.35.x or kernel-2.6.36.x? [10:31] suvir (~suvir@ppp-124-120-128-50.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:34] gtludwig, here [10:34] 35.x [10:36] nvision, you compiled from source? [10:36] Why was there not a 2.5 kernel? [10:36] Does Linus hate odd numbers? [10:36] arfon, supposedly odd numbers represent unstable versions [10:36] odd numbers are unstable [10:37] gtludwig, yes [10:37] Windows 3, 3.1,3.11, 95, 7... I guess you're right [10:37] lol [10:38] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.134.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] that was the old scheme, until 2.6 [and yes, there was 2.5]. nowadays they're simply all unstable :) [10:38] it's up to a distro to pick a kernel they consider stable and production worthy [10:39] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:39] What was the big change between 2.4 and 2.6? Why the big jump? [10:39] [and backport any patches] [10:39] SMP? [10:39] arfon: SMP was available much earlier [10:39] a lot of things changed with 2.6. if you're that interested, there are likely a lot of articles on the web about it [10:40] Yeah, not THAT interested.... [10:40] Even if I researched it, bills will still be due. [10:40] i see. you were just hoping for a lazy answer [10:40] Of course [10:40] <--simple man [10:41] Action: ananke forgets, this is irc [10:41] wut? [10:41] ananke: do you open up dell laptops often? I have a question about an inspiron. [10:41] also, 2.4 to 2.6 isn't a big jump :p the way kernel version numbers worked back then is odd numbers were testing kernels, and even were production kernels& but anake is correct a LOT has changed [10:42] thumbs: i've opened about a dozen or so. our IT support crew doesn't even do it often, it's just easier to call dell techs to come on-site for that kind of work. but i may know the answer [10:42] thumbs: also, dell has very good documentation on disassembly of their laptops, for all major components [10:42] ananke: replacing the keyboard - lifting the multimedia bar works fine, except that the top right seems to be anchored [10:42] arfon: until the 2.67 kernel, all odd number releases (x.[13579].x) were dev releases for testing only, and all even kernel numbers (x.[02468].x) were stable releases [10:42] ananke: I know. I'm afraid to break a clamp. [10:43] after 2.6 started, the kernel was declared to have enough functionality that the odd/even release cycle no longer applied [10:43] admboom (~mf@fw1-aus1.rackspace.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:43] thumbs: depending on the model [inspiron is a huge family, spanning a decade], you may have screws on the bottom of the laptop holding the keyboard. sometimes those screws are under the battery. they used to label them with K letter [for keyboard] [10:43] Sooo, we can expect a production 2.7 kernel then? [10:43] if/when the kernel changes enough to go to 2.7, yes [10:43] ananke: umm. Thanks. [10:43] tsccof (~tsccof@187.54.186.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:44] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:44] arfon, I don't think 2.6 will be going away any time soon [10:44] thumbs: and seriously, look up the service manual for that model on dell's site. it will show you pictures and take you step-by-step to remove/replace the keyboard [10:44] i dn't think that will ever happy. Linus has expressed his distaste for the current version scheme, and many major changes to the kernel have been made since 2.6 :p [10:44] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] s/happy/happen/ [10:44] http://slackwiki.org/Kernel26Compilation last time i followed that tutorial, i couldn't boot to my new kernel (it was whining something about 'bad EIP value'. so im asking what directories / files should i backup so i could restore them and reconfigure lilo so everything would be back to normal. or is it even possible? [10:45] aarchvile, you don't need to; just ADD your new kernel to lilo.conf, so that if it fails, you can select the slackware kernels [10:45] sounds like you missed an option in there - should be able to just back up to the stable kernel off the install cd/dvd and it should work fine [10:45] I remember when 2.4 came out and it had some function that I really wanted/needed... All I has was dialup so I scoured the city looking for one stupid Linux magazine issue that had a CD with the kernel source... [10:45] ananke: I kinda dived in, seeing as I did the same with my XPS. [10:45] ananke: mine doesn't need a screwdriver. But anyway [10:45] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.52) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:45] and yeah, i couldn't boot to the other kernel also. the same 'bad eip value' happened if i tried [10:46] maybe i missed something, dunno [10:46] I always keep -huge in lilo just for such an issue [10:46] original kernel* [10:46] I finally found it and installed the new kernel. Must have been okay because I don't recall any scarring memories. [10:46] aarchvile: sounds like you may have ram/cpu/mobo issues then [10:46] did you try booting from the cd/dvd/usb? [10:46] bad EIP value? that doesn't make sense. [10:47] how would code execute to determine that EIP is a bad value? [10:47] eip sounds like one of the cpu registers [10:47] it is the instruction pointer [10:47] trying to access a register that's not there? [10:47] it would have to be crash handling code to know EIP is wrong [10:47] because EIP is the address of hte next instruction in memory to execute [10:48] yeah, usb boot worked. the only problem was that i couldn't boot any of my kernels, wheter it was the original or the new due to the 'bad eip value' thing [10:48] which may trigger a bios fault [10:48] i find weird errors like that when i forget to install an initrd [10:48] i'm not using initrd [10:48] .. i think [10:48] Speaking of Mobos, I just replaced one of mine and the ethernet chip was different, had to load the forcedeth module... If there a builtin Slackware auto-detect script for things like that? [10:48] well, that would be the same situation ive seen such errors :p [10:48] gniks: he is saying that he has that problem even when trying to boot hte huge kernel after installing a custom one and running lilo [10:48] admboom (~mf@fw1-aus1.rackspace.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] well, then in that case something else changed& if -huge stopped working then the variable isn't the kernels [10:49] could it be that somehow i managed to mess up also the modules for the older kernel while installing the new kernel? [10:49] because it failed when it tried to load an usb module [10:49] aarchvile: huge doesn't use modules [10:50] nvision, can you pastebin your 35.x .config? [10:50] :\ [10:51] have you reproduced the problem by running lilo again after reinstalling or whatever to fix the issue? [10:51] arfon: that's not a slackware autodetect, that would be kernel/udev [10:51] nope [10:52] aarchvile: modules are stored at "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)" - so you would have to have the same version/extra tags on your new kernel to affect the other kernels [10:52] hmmh [10:52] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [10:53] maybe i'll just dd my root partition and restore it and reinstall lilo if something goes wrong. [10:53] I ask stupid questions like that because I don't keep track of all the 'new' things for Slack (e.g. slackpkg), I usually do things the way I have since 1996. [10:53] If it ain't broke, don't make it worse. [10:54] m3tti (~m3tti@p4FC56379.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:55] no such thing as a stupid question =) [10:55] wut? [10:55] :) [10:55] anyone who says different is a stupid question [10:55] different [10:56] ^stupid question^ [10:56] *drewls a little* [10:56] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B79B67.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Action: arfon hans surrounder a nappy [10:57] hands even [10:57] many linux-elitists seem to label 'beginner questions' as 'stupid questions' :=) [10:58] yeh, i hate that attitude [10:58] I'm wondering why the kernel/udev didn't detect the sound chipset and etherent chipset of the new mobo... The modules were built and there. [10:59] or people who deliberately don't share knowledge with delusions of grandure [10:59] we have some of those at work [10:59] You work at #irssi? [11:00] heh [11:00] :) [11:00] phrag: Oi oi! [11:00] aarchvile: the worst kind of questions are: "I'm too lazy to google or read documentation on my own"-kind of attitude [11:00] arfon: did you enable the autoload module option in the kernel? or are you using a stock kernel? [11:00] Speakign of "stupid questions" according to @thinkgeek yesterday was "ask a stupid question day". [11:00] wuha [11:00] Stock kernel alisonken1home [11:00] sucks I missed it :( [11:01] Should be the HUGE [11:03] Anyone know a source for Slackware case stickers (the 1" ones)? [11:04] http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/slackplate?id=MDH35Wbm&mv_pc=96 [11:05] Noted. ty, will check it at lunch [11:05] tenfn (dindh@unaffiliated/samuel9999) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:10] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-1-113-217.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[11:23] I'm trying to get my Windows 7 "Windows XP Mode" VM to run in slackware. virtualbox will only import the vhd file, so it thinks it isn't activated. i belive vmware will correctly import all the file, though. [11:23] that way i don't have to spend hours looking foran old XP cd [11:27] synaptic (~synaptic@host174-202-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:28] synaptic (synaptic@host174-202-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("Sto andando via"). [11:30] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:32] HoldMyPocket (~schoward@smtp.cusonet.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] gtludwig, it's basically the 64bit-slack kernel customed with make oldconfig and less modules (only those needed on my laptop) [11:34] gtludwig, I think I would not fit your needs because of modules left out [11:34] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:36] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B79B67.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:36] tooly (~tooly@e178129027.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:38] josemanuel (~josemanue@4.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:40] Equ1n0x (~allan@189.108.182.146) joined ##slackware. [11:42] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [11:42] slck-o (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:43] nemmeviu (~nemmeviu@unaffiliated/nemmeviu) joined ##slackware. [11:46] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-44-202.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:47] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.52) joined ##slackware. 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My root password is: ArfonIsMostAwesome [12:26] [looks around] [12:26] slackers.. i need your help.. I need to find an md5sum for redhat-5.2-i386.iso , google won't help , RHN won't help. Its a fucking conspiracy. [12:27] the official one or you want to calculate one? [12:27] Redhat hates you... Stick with Slack [12:27] Zordrak: doesn't matter anymore [12:27] lol [12:28] why do i bother? [12:28] Because you're a caring person [12:28] <3 [12:28] because you think you can change them... Zordrak... poor fool :) [12:29] toothkit: out of curosity, what in the world are you doing messing with Redhat 5? [12:29] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:30] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:30] arfon: um. nothing really important, but seeing's how it was so hard to find, and how its even harder to find a hash., the challenge has me hooked [12:31] Ah, an Obsessive type.... [12:31] I would of did SuSe 7 or 8, but I figured that would even be harder to find than RedHat [12:32] ever since Novel took over Suse, they deep 6'd all there older Distro and its even looking like RedhAts the same [12:32] Well, toothkit, all I can say is "Have fun stormingthe castle". [12:32] lol [12:32] ;) [12:32] btw, SuSE 9 was awesome.. [12:32] dngr (~dngr@119.237.152.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [12:33] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] <--- has a SUSE box here at work.... doesn't care for it :( [12:33] what version ? [12:33] Should be 9 something [12:33] no SLES and SUSE10 Are NOT the SuSE IMO [12:34] the//g [12:34] SLES here [12:34] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:34] We're to 'upgrade' it to SLES 10SP3 [12:35] I'd rather go to 13.1 though [12:38] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:53] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Is there any drawbacks to using cacert.org? [12:54] Correction: ARE there any... [12:54] Delahunt (~robert@208.79.15.146) joined ##slackware. [12:55] fraterm (~fraterm@ip68-108-85-174.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Pothos (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) joined ##slackware. [12:56] hey i'd like some help if you don't mind. my wifi account says that i have a pre-shared key, but then i need to somehow input user name and password. i have no clue how to do this. i can input pre-shared key (WPA/WPA2) but even pointing firefox to www.google.com results in nothing (not even a redirect to a login page) [12:56] cacert.org, interesting.. [12:57] hmmm, Delahunt, are you using something to manage your wireless connection, like wicd? [12:57] wicd [12:58] Nick change: Pothos -> sdi [12:58] but i see no option where it allows me to input pre-shared key and also username and password [12:58] yeah, i'm not sure wicd allows that... [12:58] apparently there is some sort of login page i'm supposed to see or be redirected to but it doesn't ofccur [12:58] therefore i will go to talk to my ISP [12:58] i doubt anyone out here even knows what Linux is [12:59] If you go to properties on the wireless network in wicd, you should be able to set a preshared key, I thought. [12:59] yes you can [12:59] but he also needs to set a login/password [12:59] Delahunt: you don't know what you are using. [12:59] but the problem is AFTER that, i get no prompt for username or password [12:59] WPA/WPA2 [12:59] preshared key [12:59] Do you get an IP on WLAN0? [13:00] I know of no network configurations that use a PSK and require a user name and password [13:00] That's some sort of 802.11x sort of thing [13:00] yes but i can't get to google.com (or to whatever redirect page, since i never get redirected) [13:00] or is this like those hotspots so common here in los angeles? [13:00] it is a wireless hotspot feature i think [13:00] i.e. pre-shared key but then you get redirected to a login page when you open your web browser [13:01] Did I miss the answer... Do you get an IP? [13:01] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [13:01] yes [13:01] Can you ping your gateway? [13:01] but without being redirected to where i log in with user name and password i get no stuff [13:01] Can you ping your gateway? [13:01] grrr if i can't ping the fucking gateway how the fuck did i get an IP? [13:02] rOUTE MESSED UP? [13:02] i don't have time to jump on and off irc and routers all night trying to diagnose this, i'm in Iraq and i need to get some shut-eye before work tomorrow [13:02] or maybe the router is set not to accept pings [13:02] Necos: could be [13:02] it's just like those hotspots, you get pre-shared key but then when you open your web browser it gets redirected to their login page [13:03] is there some hackerish way to figure out where the hell it's supposed to be getting redirected so i can login? [13:03] yes, same with the trains here. [13:03] Delahunt: I had to use four different browsers here. [13:03] it's usually just the homepage of the ISP [13:03] i have only one browser. i don't have windows. [13:03] Delahunt: heck, I even fired off my XP vbox image to run IE [13:03] Figure out if your really connected 1st, then figure out if the encryption is right 2nd [13:04] i deleted XP, it was a waste of disk space any more [13:04] \o/ [13:04] woo hoo! 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[13:30] I am trying not to have my router rewrite my resolv.conf (expected behavior). I have amended my dhclient.conf with supersede and prepend but to no avail. [13:31] gtludwig, i can pastebin it for you, but it wont be much help to though customed [13:31] anyone has any idea that woud not be so much intrusive such as changing my resolv.conf permissions for example ? [13:32] nvision, I'm customizing my own kernel as well... [13:33] MReimer (chatzilla@p4FD4AA20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [13:34] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:39] logia_th (~nmo@83.35.117.177) joined ##slackware. [13:40] What version of Slackware do you have, z? [13:40] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:41] BrokenCog (~daniel@24.59.205.106) joined ##slackware. [13:41] Hell! [13:41] ... Hello! [13:42] Funny how much difference that little "o" can make. [13:42] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@c-98-228-44-176.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] does anyone happen to know of, or have, an URL to a 13.1 32bit mirror ? [13:42] O HELL fuzzbawl is here [13:42] that O isn't a 0 by a long shot! [13:43] Hell O fuzzbawl ... [13:43] it seems there aren't any ISO seeders up at the moment. [13:43] hola [13:44] rob0, only for loitering this time :) [13:44] You can rsync/wget the packages and make your own ISO image if desired. [13:46] gniks, how do you pass a reference as value in Python? [13:46] I mean, how do you pass an argument as reference? [13:46] kimjeng (~mike@41.220.238.2) joined ##slackware. [13:47] (Damn dyslexic fingers!) [13:47] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.52) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:47] python always uses reference I thought. [13:49] def increase(value): value++; a = 10; increase(a); print a <- # 10! [13:50] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [13:51] gtludwig, then try make localmodconfig [13:52] have to try that later... I'm at work now :) [13:53] asarch: this might help. http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/programming_books/python_programming/python_ch10s03.html [13:55] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Thank you BrokenCog [13:56] rodrigo_golive (c8116f03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.17.111.3) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:00] Nick change: rizitis -> r-tz [14:05] rob0, 13.1 [14:06] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [14:10] BrokenCog (~daniel@24.59.205.106) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:12] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [14:18] mike (~mike@41.220.238.2) joined ##slackware. [14:18] Nick change: mike -> Guest50158 [14:19] kimjeng (~mike@41.220.238.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:19] zongo_: Slackware never did use dhclient. Look in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and you will find in the comments how to protect your resolv.conf file. [14:19] Nick change: Guest50158 -> kimjeng [14:19] (It's dhcpcd(8) and the -R option.) [14:19] artaud_ (~artaud@187.112.11.48) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.134.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:20] muchas gracias rob0, [14:21] well look at that: #DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[4]="yes" # If you dont want /etc/resolv.conf overwritten [14:21] I needed that too [14:21] Thanks rob0 [14:22] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [14:22] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:26] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [14:27] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:27] nvision_ (~nvision@g229053117.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:28] . [14:28] do you guys think it's feasible to run an mdraid-1 array of two small SSD disks on a small home server for added redundancy? or should I trust the quoted SSD runtime of a dozen years and go with one disk? [14:29] well, not really a home server, it's a project of my company. [14:30] How important is the data? [14:31] ashe (~ashe@125.166.191.110) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:31] there will be no important data on it, but important services that will need as much uptime as possible. [14:31] PFFT! forget my last question... I'd use one and rsync it everyso often [14:31] to a removable card [14:31] trhodes (trhodes@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-uczbhnqwmksqolbg) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Pawel_S (1000@82.139.50.94) joined ##slackware. [14:33] ashe (~ashe@125.166.183.106) joined ##slackware. [14:34] My fear would be not that the card fails but something would cause it to fail... Voltage spikes, lightning, cheap chinese interface.... [14:34] artaud_ (~artaud@187.112.11.48) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:35] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:36] I wonder, will Linux RAID usb devices? [14:36] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:36] Ahil (~Ahil@77.70.5.228) joined ##slackware. [14:38] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [14:38] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Client Quit [14:40] arfon, probably not [14:41] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:42] hmmm, software raid should be able, no? [14:42] oh, you want to raid1 usb devices? [14:42] for safety? [14:43] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-80-20.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-80-20.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:45] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [14:47] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [14:48] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] how could you software raid when all of the devices may not be available at the same time [14:48] Mirror [14:49] No, I don't want to do it but I was wondering [14:49] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4AA20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:50] that was for adrien, actually ;) [14:51] hideki (~none@188-222-36-81.zone13.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:51] no, I* don't want to mirror usb disks :) [14:51] I want to mirror sata disks :) [14:51] hard decision, this one. should I spare $50 and go with one SSD? :-) [14:55] ssd is too expensive to replace [14:55] :P [14:55] arch_enthusiast (~arch_enth@unaffiliated/arch-enthusiast/x-8276453) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:55] zongo_ (~zongo@86-41-75-106-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:55] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. 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[15:08] hey guys [15:09] Is artsd deprecated or something? [15:09] since KDE4, yes [15:09] Hi m3tti Buggaboo [15:10] KDE4 uses a phonon layer, which connects KDE to whichever backend the user has installed (xine mostly commonly, or gstreamer, vlc, and possibly others) [15:10] |Slacker| (1000@187.47.27.7) joined ##slackware. [15:10] that was quit discusting that tea [15:10] now some green tea with lemon [15:11] <--preferrs Lusianne [15:11] I'm trying to recompile artsd, so its ./configure will compile with my recently installed jackd. [15:11] http://captainhaggy.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/bildschirmfoto-44.png?w=600&h=351 that new ubuntu netbook interfece looks strange [15:12] but apparently this artsd requires kde3-compat stuff. [15:12] FusionX (FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) left irc: Excess Flood [15:12] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] But I don't need no stinkin gui frontend :( [15:14] Is there another artsd package with another name in slack13.1 without kde3-compat libs? [15:14] artsd is pretty much KDE3 .. so no. [15:14] BP{k}, why do you need artsd ? [15:14] what has succeeded artsd? [15:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:15] tabfail :P [15:15] I already said that, about 4 lines up ;) [15:15] whuhoops. [15:15] ow. [15:15] phonon. [15:15] hm. [15:16] I can't get skype to work with my audio input. [15:16] nvision_ (~nvision@g229053117.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:16] and you need arts for that? [15:16] I can hear my own damn voice thru the audio output tho. [15:17] and where does arts come in to play? ;) [15:17] I found documentation that connects artsdsp to jackd, then I can connect my input using jackd to skype. [15:17] well, the doc doesn't connect, but it's documented that blablabla. [15:18] color me noob. [15:18] we already did. ;) [15:18] wheres that documentation? [15:18] even tho I've been here for yeeeeears. [15:18] ok, it's probably just old. arts isn't used for anything outside of kde3, i'm quite sure [15:18] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:19] hm. okay. This requires a different strategy then. [15:19] I got jackd at least. [15:19] in alsamixer, is your mic unmuted ? [15:19] yep. [15:19] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Changing host [15:19] FusionX (FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) joined ##slackware. [15:19] like I said I can hear my unbearable voice thru the output. [15:19] distorted somewhat. [15:19] I'm reading this: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=25820 [15:20] owcrap. 2005. [15:20] Distortion is unbearable, or the voice before distortion? [15:20] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:20] If the latter, distortion can only help. [15:20] no no, my own voice is unbearable. [15:20] without distortion. [15:20] FusionX (FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) left irc: Excess Flood [15:20] self-deprecating mini-joke which borders on to subjective truth. [15:20] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] 03 May 2005 - 02:16 AM [15:21] Use smaller words, it's hard to follow you and sleep at my desk... [15:21] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Changing host [15:21] FusionX (FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) joined ##slackware. [15:21] |Slacker| (1000@187.47.27.7) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:21] lori_ (~lori@c-67-191-186-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:22] |Slacker| (1000@187.47.27.7) joined ##slackware. [15:22] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:24] How bloody frustrating. [15:24] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B53AC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:25] wookie^ (~wookie@88-199-57-133.tktelekom.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:25] hm. it might be a 32-bit skype and 64-bit alsa disconnect. [15:26] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:27] how do I figure out the intended arch (e.g. x86?, x86_64?) of an elf binary? [15:27] file [15:27] is your friend [15:28] yep. [15:28] thanks. [15:28] :-D [15:28] Action: Buggaboo goes to look for a 64-bit skype. [15:28] i've also searched that time ago and never forgotten that command [15:28] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:28] there isn't a 64-bit skype [15:28] ofeck. [15:28] hm. recompile jackd then, in 32-bits. [15:29] o wait. I found an ubuntuforums thread. [15:30] I'd like to try some other voip software, but they all have huge stupid dependencies. [15:30] like gnome. [15:31] :-! [15:31] there is no nice voip thingy [15:31] Ahil (~Ahil@77.70.5.228) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:32] only mumble would be great [15:32] it's like teamspeak only better [15:32] does mumble have a windows client? [15:32] yes [15:32] osx and also linux XD [15:32] arecord isn't recording input. [15:32] crap. [15:33] it is based on qt [15:33] there's something wrong. [15:33] whats wrong [15:35] I tried invoking arecord to record something during 5 seconds to a wav file, I shout in the mic and no signal in the *.wav file. [15:36] arecord -f dat -D hw:0,0 -d 5 foo.wav [15:36] sushiyant (~hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [15:37] nope, no signal. [15:37] recorded. [15:37] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [15:38] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:38] hm, I wonder where hm:0,0 is mapped to. [15:38] hw even. [15:39] according to /proc/asound/cards I only have the one card. [15:41] h0ho (~shinji@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:41] hey guys what's the best way for me to get my bcm4315 driver working? [15:43] Is it necessary to setup audio capture seperately for soundcards? [15:44] except for turning on everything in alsamixer? [15:46] ivo_ (~ivo@f048000165.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:49] m3tti (m3tti@p57B79B67.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [15:52] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC195.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] dammit. [15:54] anyone ever have a FIC motherboard? [15:54] r-tz (rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:55] I have toothkit [15:56] ...but it went bad after a few years [15:56] tooly (tooly@e178129027.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [15:56] so they are shit too? [15:57] hm [15:57] They pretty much are all sh!t ATM. :( [15:57] arfon: what socket & cpu? [15:57] The oldest (still working) mobo that I have is an ECS (that I had to recap) [15:58] It was an Athlon [15:58] Socket A I believe [15:59] h0ho (~shinji@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:59] $37 for a socket 754 seems cheap [15:59] I just bought a Biostar mobo this past weekend for $34 [16:00] where from? [16:00] new, AM2/Am3 [16:00] Frys [16:00] wonder if frys carries socket 754 [16:00] Frys.com (if you don't have a store in your area) [16:00] Why a socket 754? [16:01] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:01] because this fucking gigabyte k8vm800m is the worst motherboard ive ever had ever. and im gunna throw it away once i get a new mobo [16:01] sempron , socket754 [16:01] briareus (~briareus@ip68-98-234-158.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] briareus (~briareus@ip68-98-234-158.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [16:01] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:01] I had 3 NEW gigabyte die on me a year ago [16:02] They were alway good to me until those [16:02] arfron: are u in socal ? [16:02] No Texas [16:03] Good luck at finding a 754 mobo [16:03] I picked up a new mobo, semperon and 1G of DDR2 for $120 [16:05] neverheard of "asrock" [16:06] ??? what is asrock? [16:06] a cheap manufacturer. [16:06] blech [16:06] I'm not very fond of their products. [16:06] _abc_ (~no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) joined ##slackware. [16:07] I've got an ASUS mobo in my desktop that is about a year old that randomly changes BIOS settings and shutsdown [16:07] <_abc_> Hello. Is there a known problem with lrzsz ? I have trouble sending data between a Linux machine and a Netbsd machine [16:08] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:09] Pawel_S (1000@82.139.50.94) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:10] _abc_: you sending data over a serial connection? [16:10] <_abc_> yes, wire, RTS/CTS handshake [16:10] <_abc_> It drops out only in lrzsz. [16:10] Does minicom work? [16:10] <_abc_> I am using minicom on one end and a shell with lrz installed on the other end [16:11] <_abc_> Any data being sent causes lsz to bomb out [16:11] Rev_Willie (~william@ip70-188-16-112.rn.hr.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:11] <_abc_> I have to send ascii armored data [16:11] <--never used lrzsz, just curious [16:11] <_abc_> Ah [16:11] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:13] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [16:13] coredumb1 (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [16:13] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:14] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:14] wyggler2 (mvlewis@pilot.trilug.org) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Nick change: coredumb1 -> coredumb [16:16] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:17] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:18] Does someone have same issue, after regular shutdown, my /home partition (ext4) won't mount with bad partition table error. Tried fsck but without luck, tried ubuntu live and it mount it with a 'click' (in dmesg it says that it is mounted with warning, and will be good to run e2fsck) but all my data are available. Back in slackware same problem, now I compiled 2.6.35.5 and it mounts it without problem. [16:20] sounds like you fixed it. Congrats! [16:20] arfon, no, with stock kernel I cannot mount it, same problem :( [16:21] asarch (~asarch@189.188.156.112) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:21] _abc_ (no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left ##slackware. [16:21] Did you back your data up? [16:21] I rebooted few times, and tried fsck on slack and ubuntu, when I go to slack again I get same problem with stock kernel [16:21] arfon, yes I have backup [16:21] any changes in fs kernel options? is correct conpara the two .config? [16:21] dngr (~dngr@119.237.152.156) joined ##slackware. [16:22] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:22] logia_th, problem is on stock kernel, I don't know is there a difference, I configure it on my way :D [16:23] two kernel are compiled in base a same config? [16:23] proc/config.gz? [16:24] logia_th, no, I have problems with slackware stock kernel 2.6.33.4, now I'm using 2.6.35.5 (and I will upgrade to .7) on 2.6.35.x I'm using my config [16:24] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-96-19.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:24] any diff in fs? [16:24] If you are using 2.6.35.5, why do you care about the stock kernel? [16:25] adaptr (~jgeilman@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:25] adaptr (~jgeilman@xs.adaptr.nl) left irc: Changing host [16:25] adaptr (~jgeilman@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [16:25] I mount without problems with stock and stable [16:26] fb|jean (champus@s15224318.onlinehome-server.info) left ##slackware. [16:27] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC195.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [16:27] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.81) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:27] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [16:28] arfon, I use it now, because I cannot mount my home partition anymore on stock [16:28] So, if you could mount it with the stock kernel, you would switch back to the stock kernel? [16:29] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:30] lori_ (~lori@c-67-191-186-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] sushiyant (~hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:31] |Slacker| (1000@187.47.27.7) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:31] adaptr (~jgeilman@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:31] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:32] arfon, I can use this too, but with slackware stock kernel I have less to care about it [16:32] adaptr (~jgeilman@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:32] adaptr (~jgeilman@xs.adaptr.nl) left irc: Changing host [16:32] adaptr (~jgeilman@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [16:34] bitlord: to answer your original question, I have never experienced that. I have had a new EXT4 partition go bad on a USB drive after I backed my data up (ext4 seems flaky). [16:35] arfon, OK tnx. [16:35] reinstall with ext3 maybe? [16:36] hm, ext3 have less performance :( (I think in speed) [16:36] logia_th, http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3206/configdiff.png << part of FS diff [16:36] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.81) joined ##slackware. [16:37] if in the two kernel are the same driver, conpile the stock kernel wit the options in stable and test it, [16:39] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.13.251) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:40] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:40] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.161.70) joined ##slackware. [16:42] NyteOwl (~nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:43] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:44] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) joined ##slackware. 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[17:37] darkrho (~darkrho@44.36.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:39] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] Mowah (1000@c-d181e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:42] vastina (jaird@173.227.163.242) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:43] screen -r doesn't work? [17:43] Wait, you want to start up and start a deteched screen? [17:43] but I need to run screen as detached by rc.local [17:44] screen & ? [17:44] then after create screen session send to it commands to execute [17:44] Oh wait [17:44] You need to log in [17:45] what are you trying to do? [17:45] as described [17:45] need to start detached screen [17:45] then send to it commands [17:45] detach doesnt survive reboots [17:45] and screnn & doesn't work? [17:45] i.e. wget to download some files after planned wakeup of machine [17:46] Why not just write a script to wget them? [17:46] because I wish to attach it i.e. in the morning and see what happens - if it finished etc [17:47] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: reboot [17:47] why not run a cron job that emails you the results when finished [17:48] I wish to see progress when screen session attached at the morning [17:49] screen -d -m [] [17:49] ? [17:49] ok, that works [17:49] mac-: and does this screen needs to run as root? or as another user? [17:50] ordinary user [17:50] Ihought that it is possible to launch screen session and then send commands to it [17:50] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:50] darkrho (~darkrho@65.34.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [17:51] g4spr0m (~tomasz@host-87-99-29-224.lanet.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:53] you could write a perl script to listen to a socket and interpret everything it recieves as a command and execute it with `` :) [17:53] :P [17:53] sure [17:53] heh [17:54] rheault (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Or, you could wirte a shell script to wget whatever files you want and another shell script to 'report' to you the increasing file size using ls.... [17:55] as others have already said, screen is not the right tool for this job [17:55] (you know I'm kidding right?) [17:55] ncftp [17:56] ;p [17:56] :) [17:56] It's late, I'm tired, I can pull your leg [17:59] 5 more minutes and it's 5p in Mississippi [18:01] you`re from USA [18:01] Not from... I didn't leave [18:01] (actually I'm kidding, I have left the US a few times) [18:04] Well guys, so long and thanks for all of the fish... 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[19:30] boot fedora [19:31] lol :-D [19:32] asarch: why are you even considering it? [19:32] No, seriously, I would like to try the new LibreOffice [19:32] asarch: use the slackbuild. [19:32] which slackbuild? [19:33] the openoffice one [19:33] niels_horn has adjusted it for LO, but he doesnt seem to be around [19:33] more like hes just not in here [19:34] I don't think it works right just yet, at least he hasn't submitted to SBo [19:34] yeah [19:35] I think he was considering rworkman to submit it since he did OOo [19:35] LO is still beta though.. [19:35] and it was 99% his script [19:35] talking of which: http://blogs.computerworld.com/17058/libreoffice_isnt_an_openoffice_fork_yet [19:36] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-85-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] I see [19:39] darkrho (~darkrho@65.34.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. 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[19:58] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:00] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B53AC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:00] gh0: run any KDE application and click Help->About KDE [20:00] ty, yea im on 4.4.3, didnt know 4.5.1 was out [20:02] bogusjokes (~Doomdude@78-82-255-117.tn.glocalnet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:04] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:05] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.28.98) joined ##slackware. [20:06] BVX (~error@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:07] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:11] watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) joined ##slackware. [20:12] gh0: which graphics driver? [20:14] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a::35) joined ##slackware. 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XD [20:34] alrighty then......... [20:34] you should probably just ask it [20:35] I'm looking to install vmware, is there anything specific I should know/do or is it a stock install [20:35] ? [20:35] 64bit-multilib 13.1 BTW [20:36] it's a painless install for you then [20:36] cool.... just wanted to double check before going for it - THANKS! [20:37] I'm using the vmware site, we don't have a slackbuild for it do we? [20:37] nope. I use it. just run the bundle, everything will go into place [20:37] er [20:37] there is a slackbuild at slackbuilds.org [20:38] for vmware? [20:38] there is not [20:38] I looked and could not find anything [20:38] oh was think vbox, doh [20:38] There are lots of SlackBuilds at SlackBuilds.org :P [20:38] thinking* [20:39] okey-dokey then..... off to have some fun! thanks again [20:39] Nick change: yht-GoHome -> yht [20:39] :D [20:41] g'night all [20:41] NyteOwl (~nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Addit Frena Feris [20:44] newslacker (root@174-125-18-145.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [20:47] logia_th (~nmo@83.35.117.177) left irc: Quit: return 0; [20:50] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a::277) joined ##slackware. [20:50] WLShafor (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:56] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] ok..... 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[22:15] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-67-242-29-175.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:21] Onyxyte (~Onyxyte@r75-110-112-109.rmntcmtc02.rcmtnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [22:22] Nahlidge (Nahlidge@adsl-163-21-126.pns.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-24.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Anyway to install Slackware via usb stick? [22:22] idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) joined ##slackware. [22:23] yes read the files in usb-and-pxe-installers/ [22:23] there is a script floating around, that does that, alternatively is run your own mirror and/or have everything on a partition and then dd the usbboot.img to a usb stick [22:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] then when it asks for the files you point to that partition on the disk. you are set [22:24] friend of mine wants to install it on his pc (dvd drive died) and only has a 2gb flash drive, told him i'd ask.. anyway you can direct me to a few links on doing it? [22:25] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:usbboot [22:25] bleeding|edge (~quassel@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [22:25] ty Grifulkin [22:25] np Nahlidge [22:26] you could read the official distribution files [22:27] will do, thanks for the help erik :) [22:29] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Changing host [22:29] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [22:30] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:31] gtludwig (~gtl@189.114.203.56.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:31] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [22:33] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-1-113-217.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:34] Onyxyte (~Onyxyte@r75-110-112-109.rmntcmtc02.rcmtnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [22:55] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:00] Hi. [23:00] How does this sound? [23:00] "Slackware is my choice of OS in home and work environment." [23:01] rhisa: would sound better if a major company took on slackware [23:06] nyRednek, hm, do we not? 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