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[01:21] hey, how to swap mouse buttons on 13.X now that hal is handling mouse events? [01:23] That I do not know. [01:24] it would be an fdi file for your mouse [01:24] alisonken1lap: ok... [01:24] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:25] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.174) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:25] neonflux_ (~neonflux@64.134.223.174) joined ##slackware. [01:25] I kind of wish my previous roomate hadn't absconded with my slack 13 disk 1. [01:26] heh [01:27] seeing as my only access to the net is a palm centro... [01:27] brb.. gotta close down the chicken coop... [01:27] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [01:28] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [01:29] yo nyRednek [01:29] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [01:32] alisonken1lap: yeah [01:32] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:32] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [01:33] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.174) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:34] nyRednek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948154 <-- this will give you an idea about the fdi file [01:34] heviarti (~ptpChat2@173-126-221-42.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:34] alisonken1lap: thanks [01:39] nyRednek: also look at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor on your machine [01:39] (directory of fdi files) [01:41] jcn` (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:42] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:42] heviarti1 (~ptpChat2@173-126-221-42.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [01:43] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [01:43] I'm not sure but I think I lost connection. [01:44] 22:31 -!- heviarti [~ptpChat2@173-126-221-42.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [01:44] yup [01:45] it's real cool how this client doesn't realize it's not connected. [01:47] heviarti1: what client ? [01:47] Nick change: akmal -> tsuyoi [01:47] it amazes me how much of this palm software is really crappy bordering on non-functional... [01:48] heviarti1: is it a garnet or webos app? [01:48] garnet's netlib wasn't what you'd call complete [01:48] ptpchat2 [01:48] garnet [01:49] I have to say, it's not quite as buggy as zircon..... [01:49] heviarti1: zircon? [01:49] garnet. I'm on a centro. [01:50] heviarti1: that's a version of webos, iirc [01:50] I'd kill for an sftp client on here.... [01:51] yeah, zircon.catless.ncl.ac.uk tk/tcl client. [01:51] super wierd to run. [01:52] Nick change: heviarti1 -> heviarti [01:53] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:55] ny: no, I don't have multitasking. webos does. [01:55] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:56] heviarti: ok... [01:56] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Read error: No route to host [01:57] this sucks.... the only app that x will run is xv. [01:58] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:58] heviarti: you want to reinstall 13.1? [01:59] heviarti: i've got a relatively quick and dirty method [01:59] north40man (~north40ma@host-72-174-20-43.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] I've got slackware 10 installed on a socket 775 P4, and there is wierdness.. [02:00] heviarti: again, i got a quick and dirty method, but there's *no* room for error [02:00] not unless you want to burn a disc [02:01] if it involves any internet connection other than my palm, I'm kinda boned.... [02:02] for the sake of understanding what does make oldconfig do , ive found differnt answers on my googleing and im just curious [02:02] heviarti: your pc doesn't have ethernet? [02:03] and if it involves a file bigger than 5 meg I am also boned [02:03] heviarti: i guess you're fsck'ed [02:03] I've got a 13.0 install I could concievably copy of my big machine... [02:03] north40man: it tries to give the new config file answers from the old config that u had [02:03] heviarti: umask 000 && cp -a(read the zipslack faq [02:03] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-81-201.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:04] gbonvehi, old as in current running one [02:04] north40man: old as any config file you want same or older version [02:05] gbonvehi, on a fresh install w/huge kernel if i want to recompile to a gen then i dont want to do a make oldconfig eh? [02:05] north40man: you just have to put it in the same directory and call it .config [02:05] north40man: nope, grab the gen config file and start from there [02:05] north40man: but no need to make oldconfig there, just put it the the sources root and use make menuconfig or xconfig [02:05] I have ethernet. [02:06] kewl so i dont need to use make oldconfig then [02:06] north40man: if it's the same version you don't need oldconfig (i think i was unclear about this above) [02:06] gbonvehi, well TYVM [02:07] kewl kewl [02:07] It's just trying to get anything bigger than 5 meg off the net with my palm (my only net access) is near impossible. [02:07] ny: if I did a copy I'd have to fight for a few hours to make lilo work just like when I install my laptop. [02:10] Actually what I need is 13.1 discs... I have to reinstall the neighbor's jukebox. [02:10] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [02:12] as well as this one I just built outta the trash. [02:12] thing runs with zero load... but so far I've been unable to execute anything heavy. [02:12] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:13] tired... [02:17] subscriptions are great for that [02:17] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [02:18] heviarti (~ptpChat2@173-126-221-42.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:19] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:25] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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[05:29] linXea: the reasoning is this: I have a 192.168.23.0/25 network at a remote place with a linux router, and I'd like to openvpn to it, and to be able to see it's windows shares. but the less traffic goes over the vpn link, the better, because traffic is limited there. if I bridge vpn and LAN, all broadcasts will go over the VPN. what about proxy arp, any thoughts? [05:30] Iraq (~Iraq@95.170.223.30) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:31] Wiren (~skg@ANantes-157-1-164-229.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:32] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.229) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:34] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.229) joined ##slackware. [05:34] If traffic amount is of essence I see the point of using proxy-arp instead. I don't see any reason why it should work just as good performance-wise anyways. Personally I haven't used Proxy-arp to maintain a VPN link but that should work just fine. [05:35] sorry, but I have to get back to work ... good luck [05:39] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Iraq (~Iraq@95.170.223.30) joined ##slackware. [05:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [05:54] Wiren (~skg@ANantes-157-1-164-229.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [05:59] anomaly (~anomaly@adsl-90-3-81.mob.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:05] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-167-175.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:06] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [06:08] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Client Quit [06:11] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [06:13] g00d luck [06:16] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:19] tripfantastic (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:19] morning; can i get a ip.8 rule to block a scan from udp? 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[06:39] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:40] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:42] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [06:43] using manpage numbering in conversation is 2009 [06:43] *is so 2009 :P [06:50] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:50] if I wanted just a bare slack system, would the first disk be enough for this purpose? [06:53] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [06:55] Sajmon (500@ej119.netikka.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:55] hi all! [06:56] pete` (~user@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:59] i'm having problems with enableing opengl with my old nvidia geforce 2 graphics card. i have installed the right driver that i found on slackbuilds. any ideas? [06:59] anomaly: depends on what you call "bare" [06:59] Sajmon: which slackware version? [06:59] 13.0 [06:59] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [07:01] anomaly (anomaly@adsl-90-3-81.mob.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:02] edthix (~ed@115.133.244.30) joined ##slackware. [07:02] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [07:03] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:03] Nick change: |CtrlAltCa| -> CtrlAltCa [07:04] Sajmon: you used the "legacy" driver? [07:06] adrien: yes i used the legacy96 driver [07:07] i tried to download the driver from nvidia.com too but that installation failed [07:07] which card exactly? [07:08] NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX/ MX 400 [07:10] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:12] Sajmon: what's the output of "lspci | grep VGA"? [07:12] Sajmon: also, what is the exact problem of enabling opengl? [07:15] pete` (~user@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:16] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:16] edthix (ed@115.133.244.30) left ##slackware. [07:17] pete` (user@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left ##slackware. [07:17] _AtheoS_ (~AtheoS@cpc1-live12-0-0-cust178.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:18] psych0_ (~virus@187.2.67.94) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:18] btw, I recompressed slackware packages in a single big archive and got 2.1GB of packages (or more) down to 1.5GB, I could have done better [07:19] could be useful for bw-constrained people [07:19] the output of lspci | grep VGA: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) [07:19] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] adrien: what about doinst.sh files? [07:21] slava_dp|: everything is kept: I un'xz every package, but keep that as .tar files, then I tar everything in a 5GB tar and recompress it as a whole [07:21] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:21] after that, you can decompress the huge file and recompress as .t-whatever to get slackware packages [07:22] ah, nifty :) [07:22] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [07:22] I thought you had one enormous package that unpacks the whole slackware :-) [07:23] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:23] when i try to change to compositin type in desktop settings it says: Failed to activate desktops effects usig the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type. [07:23] slava_dp|: nah, the goal isn't to break everything :P [07:24] slava_dp|: however, it could be done ;-) [07:24] you'd only have to edit fstab and lilo.conf ;-) [07:24] Sajmon: I've got geforce4 Ti 4200, that uses the same #96 driver. compositing does not work for me. [07:24] _AtheoS_ (~AtheoS@cpc1-live12-0-0-cust178.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:24] Sajmon: so a kde error? Is direct rendering enabled? [07:25] 'lsmod | grep nvidia' too [07:26] thing is, on my gf4, opengl games do work, glxgears does work too, but compositing doesn't. [07:26] archcezar (1000@acvw85.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:26] Sajmon: do glxgears work for you? [07:26] slava_dp|: OK. pprkut: i dont know. [07:27] Sajmon: run ''glxgears''. does it show anything? [07:27] i'll try that [07:27] Sajmon: glxinfo tells you whether direct rendering is enabled [07:28] archcezar (1000@dhp175.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:28] psych0_ (~virus@187.2.67.94) joined ##slackware. [07:29] GLUT: Fatal Error in glxgears: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display: :0.0 [07:30] same in glxinfo [07:30] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) joined ##slackware. [07:30] you must be using nv then. [07:31] now i dont get what you mean [07:33] should i try to reinstall the drivers? [07:34] Sajmon: now, this article might shed some light: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2010/04/09/configuring-nvidia-cards-on-slackware/ [07:35] that wont help his/her card is too old for any driver available from nvidia [07:36] oh, was Gf2 supported by the #76 driver? [07:36] no, you are fine. 96.x is the correct driver [07:37] Sajmon: which SlackBuilds did you install? [07:37] the legacy96 driver and kernel [07:38] Xorg.0.log please (pastebin) [07:38] Sajmon: did you update xorg after you installed the driver? [07:39] how can i do that? [07:39] do what? [07:39] update xorg [07:40] there we go. Sajmon, the article I linked explains editing xorg. go read. [07:40] ok, thanks for the help all [07:40] Sajmon: well, if you don'tknow you probably didn't do it. You would do it with installpkg or slackpkg...obviously [07:41] ok [07:41] Action: slava_dp| thought we talked about xorg.conf... oops [07:42] Sajmon: still, a pastbin of Xorg.0.log please, and the output of "nvidia-switch --check-nvidia" as well [07:48] there is no updates for xorg [07:49] atleast slackpkg did not list it [07:49] and i dont know where to find the log file [07:49] \/var/log/Xorg.0.log [07:49] 1. which log file 2. there is indeed an update for xorg for slackware [07:51] then i guess it should be included when i take slackpkg upgrade-all [07:52] there was an update for 13.1. There might not be for 13.0 [07:52] Action: slava_dp| checked and 13.0 has xorg updates as well. [07:54] hi all. i have to create a remote filesystem that is avaiable from two hosts. but i need that when one of the two host is down the filesystem is still fully accessible. what solution can i use? [07:55] nfs requires the server is always available [07:56] and i cannot share a thr spare drive [07:56] drbd? [07:56] and i cannot share a spare drive [07:56] xtreemfs, Glusterfs maybe [07:57] xtreemfs does only read-only replication [07:58] thx a lot. i'll try drdb [07:58] there is a slackbuild for drbd on slackbuilds.org. [07:59] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:02] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-17-166.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:14] pete` (~user@004.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:16] BentoPUNK (BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:16] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) joined ##slackware. [08:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [08:18] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [08:20] noobish (~noobish@173-166-250-126-stockton.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-50-32.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:22] i'm doing iptables mangling, and am not sure if I have to do anything beyond the actual rule add command to activate the rule. I'm aware that rc.inet2 calls `rc.firewall start` if it exists, but I want to do this on the fly. Do I need to restart ip forwarding? For that matter, does ip forwarding need to be on in order for the iptables rules to work? [08:22] Sajmon (500@ej119.netikka.fi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:22] iptables rules are active the minute they're set [08:22] iptables-save to verify [08:23] cool [08:23] i wonder why a bunch of howtos are saying you need to call iptables-save [08:23] you don't need to [08:23] wyzemoro (~jun@112.201.242.62) joined ##slackware. [08:23] they must mean to verify but they don't say that [08:23] iptables-save is a nice utility to save your firewall rules to a file [08:23] yeah i know [08:23] Iraq (~Iraq@95.170.223.30) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:24] why i came here to ask [08:24] cuz i were confuzed [08:24] noobish, i didn't say it so you'd save it, without an argument it uses stdout, ergo "to verify" [08:25] that's the behavior I noticed. Thanks [08:25] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-48-52.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] dillllo (~Unknown@122.163.100.227) joined ##slackware. [08:26] no problem. [08:27] what are you mangling, btw? [08:27] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:27] dillllo (~Unknown@122.163.100.227) left irc: Client Quit [08:29] marking src port 80 and 443 traffic for a tc filter [08:29] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [08:30] ah ok, so you're using tos classifiers for qos? [08:30] pupiteee (~p@91-150-106-153.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [08:30] yes [08:30] you realize tc filters can be port saavy without you having to mangle headers [08:31] now that you say it [08:31] i did read that on lartc [08:31] boo [08:31] match ip sport 80 0xffff [08:31] right [08:31] double boo [08:32] 0xfff though, you have an extra f i think [08:32] that's copied from the site [08:32] what does that bit do anyway [08:32] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [08:32] oops, my bad, 4 f's is right, just applied the mask [08:32] is that same as u32? [08:33] yes, basically u32 masks [08:33] it should save you all the trouble of mangling headers which i would personally avoid if possible. [08:33] so then the 0xffff is redundant, does this look correct: [08:33] tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 u32 match ip sport 80 0xffff flowid 1:20 [08:34] err, without the 0xffff [08:34] i like it with the 0xffff [08:34] it is sexier, isn't it [08:35] ilker (~ilker@88.236.158.103) joined ##slackware. [08:37] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:39] lotec (~lotec@64-9-157-207.fwd.datafoundry.com) joined ##slackware. [08:39] pete` (~user@004.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:40] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. 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[08:56] jeez, i cant get this right :D trying to add a user to several groups, he can only be in one [08:57] a user has only one default group [08:57] but can have many other groups [08:57] when i try to add him to groups he disappears from the others [08:57] it's the difference of -g and -G to the useradd command [08:58] still hes gone :/ [08:58] don't use usermod for group manipulation on slackware, there's gpasswd [09:00] ok :D [09:01] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Hi. I'm preparing to do my first kernel build and was hoping I could get some help durring the process. My fist question is where to do the build Eric Hameleers wiki says /usr/src, but I already have a folder for the kernel there. If I extract the tar.bz2 kernel in /usr/src will it overwrite important stuff in the folder with the same name? [09:05] It will not [09:06] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.251) joined ##slackware. [09:06] You can check the content of a linux kernel source archive before extracting it [09:06] It will show you that the toplevel directory will be the unique name linux-2.6.xx.xxx (proper version string applied) [09:07] And if you were planning on extracting the source for the kernel version whiich is already located in /usr/src , then my question would be: "Why???" [09:08] inconnu (~user@CPE00222d1e137d-CM00222d1e1379.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:09] alienBOB: Glad you asked. That was another question. My CPU is constantly at %70 2500mhz. I read that switching from the huge kernel could help. That's what I'm trying to do [09:09] You do not have to compile a new kernel then - Slackware also installs a "generic" kernel [09:10] Ahhh.... if it installs it, I assume its using it by default? [09:10] I believe that was a choice during the install? [09:11] No [09:11] ok ... So the true question is. Could my kernel cause my cpu to stay arround 70% 2500mhz non stop? [09:11] Slackware will use the huge kernel by default, but the generic kernel will still be installed if you selected it - it will just not be used because for that, you will still need to create an initrd file and update /etc/lilo.conf [09:12] I can not answer your question. I have never heard that story before. What process is eating all the CPU cycles? [09:13] fortunev, can you run top or similar? [09:13] X seems to be the biggest. It stays arround 20-25% [09:13] x is at 46 right now [09:14] which graphic card? [09:14] tripfantastic (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] running kde? [09:14] why is 4.2.2.2:53 scanning my udp ports? [09:15] 4.2.2.2 is a name server [09:15] i know that [09:15] i use it [09:15] so apparently someone is using 4.2.2.2 for requesting NS info [09:15] ati radeon 3500 ish? [09:15] it looks like a nmap to me in the log [09:15] Well, pastebin the log [09:15] too much [09:15] We can't 'read' your mind. [09:15] oh pls [09:15] i can [09:15] i know how to write [09:16] and if we could, we'd be rich. [09:16] why is 4.2.2.2:53 scanning my udp ports? [09:16] they're not [09:16] writing/speaking is mind-reading [09:16] That movie Scanners, was based on me. [09:16] But I never got a cent [09:16] tripfantastic: That's fine. Good luck. Without seeing logs; no help. [09:16] Dominian there is no ns info on any ports being poked [09:16] What ports are they hitting? [09:17] again, saying "why are they scanning me" tells us nothing. What ports are they hitting. [09:17] it looks like an nmap [09:17] "looks" like means nothing. [09:17] you should read more of what i write [09:17] i said that already [09:17] fortunev_ (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] I've read enough to know you aren't giving enough info. [09:17] bs [09:17] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [09:17] it is a Monday [09:17] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:17] Aug 30 13:11 < ?tripfantastic> why is 4.2.2.2:53 scanning my udp ports? [09:17] that's all you said tripfantastic [09:17] keep reading [09:17] still here [09:17] bs [09:18] Oh wait... isn't tripfantastic the noobish troll? [09:18] /ignore'd! woot [09:18] bah! [09:18] how dare ye [09:18] lo [09:18] l [09:18] noobish: oh wait.. I just used your name in vain! [09:18] noobish: my bad ;) [09:18] anyone else with more insight why sites nmap computers they dont own? [09:18] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:19] Action: Dominian sings the 'what ports and need logs' song [09:19] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [09:19] i would add you to my list of people's brains to squeeze out of their heads with my mind, but my standards are too high [09:19] jotting you down underneath the Scanners producers [09:19] wow; you folks are nasty today; this is new. [09:19] tripfantastic (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [09:19] ha! [09:20] wow, somebody got up on the wrong side of their kernel [09:20] Yeah.. making generic comments and wanting an instant answer on 'nothing' isn't bein gnasty ;) [09:20] adrien: any insite on the video card? or X stuck at %45 cpu [09:20] i concur doctor! [09:20] admboom: I can't stand people who make generalized comments but can't show any backing to their claims. [09:20] ah fortunev: fglrx or the open driver? [09:21] I think I read reports of high cpu utilization using fglrx on phoronix.com [09:21] Dominian, indeed, he seemed really close to a troll [09:21] admboom: I recognize him.. I'm pretty sure its the 'same' one I think it is. [09:21] errr... Whichever came with the Slack 13.1 install. Not sure which. [09:21] not fglrx then [09:21] fortunev_: ati drivers don't come with the Slack install. [09:21] probably mesa if you haven't installed anything [09:21] maybe the OS ones do. [09:22] yah [09:22] what noobish said [09:22] i'm noticing the wonders of XChat. The highlighting when ppl mention you is nice [09:22] ew [09:22] EW! [09:22] whut then [09:22] oh [09:22] ;) [09:22] i'm trying to find a decent client [09:23] Action: Dominian uses irssi [09:23] but its command line ;) [09:23] (on windows) [09:23] Youc an use irssi on windows [09:23] :) [09:23] i ussed irssi once or twice [09:23] noobish: http://www.irssi.org/files/irssi-win32-0.8.12.exe [09:23] :) [09:23] i like xchat [09:23] so far [09:23] blech [09:23] Action: lamah loves kVIRC [09:23] ssh + irssi ftw [09:23] noobish: I started out on Xchat years ago.. switched to irssi.. neve rlooked back [09:24] ElectRo`: amen! [09:24] mmm [09:24] ElectRo`: oh wait [09:24] ElectRo`: ssh + screen + irssi = win [09:24] :) [09:24] sould I install fglxr? [09:24] up to you. for that old of a card the open source drivers are probably better [09:24] fortunev_, does the load stop if you exit X? [09:24] but either way you would have to install something [09:24] fortunev_: You can definitely try it, I've never used it though :) [09:24] Dominian: forget to mention but win indeed [09:24] ElectRo`: :) [09:25] I even build a lot of kernels in screen.. [09:25] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-167-175.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:25] 10 mins to build my kernel no need for screen :P [09:26] fortunev: is this an ATI Radeon HD 3xxx series? [09:26] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] admboom: when you say exit X are you saying telinit 3? [09:26] if so, I recommend getting the Gallium3D driver, but no idea if that will solve your cpu utilization issues [09:27] fortunev_, yes, or even init 1 to isolate what is generating load [09:28] admboom: then yes. Killing X solves the load issue. [09:29] ElectRo`: hehe [09:29] ElectRo`: Yeah my quad-core builds kernels very quickly.. especially with -j9 [09:29] ElectRo`: now.. building on My VPS.. whole 'nother story :) [09:30] fortunev_, on mine, when X goes nuts it is because a Xclient is doing something wrong, like calling redraw hundred times a sec [09:30] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Dominian, -j9 is a treat, [09:31] admboom: aye [09:31] Action: admboom i7 quad on my laptop [09:31] nice [09:31] Don't they have like 8core processors now? :) [09:31] i wish i got the i7 in my laptop [09:31] I want dual-octocore hehe [09:31] make -j25 :) [09:31] ohhhh yeah baby [09:31] Hit enter.. compile is done before you're finger even comes off the key [09:31] ;) [09:32] i don't see why we must have separate memory banks for each of the dual-octocores [09:32] er.. your [09:32] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [09:32] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-90-140.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [09:32] noobish: bus speed is my guess.. so you can dedicate ram to each processor.. but I'm not a hardware guy ... just guessing. [09:32] admboom: restarted x (telinit4) and x is at 0. But logged in remot, so at the local machine, its at the login welcome. [09:33] yes, I'm sure there's a legitimate reason related to arbitration, but I was just lapsing into wishful thinking [09:33] heh [09:33] with those compilation speeds you could script it all through a website's javascript code to compile remotely [09:33] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:33] OnMouseDown="compile();" [09:34] heh [09:34] onMouseUp="lilo"; [09:34] I just want to get a board that supports IOMMU :) [09:35] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Is there a way to display my % cpu usage from the command line? [09:36] top [09:36] q to quit [09:37] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:37] inconnu (user@CPE00222d1e137d-CM00222d1e1379.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [09:38] Action: fortunev_ info'ing top [09:39] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [09:39] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [09:39] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Quit: hoobop [09:41] foobarz, also `ps` [09:41] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:41] top is probably best though [09:42] someone here is running skype 64bits ? [09:42] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [09:42] on slackware ? [09:42] it exist ? [09:42] AbsTradELic, iirc their skype64 is not true 64 and you need multilib [09:42] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [09:43] lotec (~lotec@64-9-157-207.fwd.datafoundry.com) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [09:43] admboom: Im looking for it: http://www.slacky.eu/asche64/pkgs/index.php?ver=14&pkgname=skype_static&pkgver=2.1.0.81 [09:44] :) [09:44] admboom: thanks... but I forget what my question was... ??? [09:45] if you get the skype 64-bit package and run a file on the binary, it's 32-bit. they just put it in a 64-bit package expecting *buntu-style hosts [09:46] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:46] it must not have been important then? [09:47] skype still working [09:47] skype has been promising native 64 bits and open sourced ui since before the moon landing [09:47] fine [09:47] using top more efficiently http://tinyurl.com/y4yyn89. For the noobish among us [09:47] hey i resemble that remark [09:47] I would care more about skype if they were still doing the free domestic calling [09:50] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) joined ##slackware. [09:50] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) left irc: Changing host [09:50] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:51] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:52] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-45-84-251.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. 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[10:08] so now i've totally go rid of X [10:08] s/go/got [10:09] that and the language packs, saved me some fair space on a tiny hd server [10:09] slava_dp| (d46fc15a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.111.193.90) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:10] but the problem is that when i'm using screen, my bash alisases don't work [10:10] and neither does links work in graphical mode in screen [10:12] what is this screen you and others are talking about [10:12] dillllo: source your profile [10:12] dillllo: and set the DISPLAY variable [10:12] |CTAPOMAK| (~kvirc@host-95-189-176-245.pppoe.omsknet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:12] |CTAPOMAK| (~kvirc@host-95-189-176-245.pppoe.omsknet.ru) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [10:12] There is a way to rig screen to use a login shell [10:13] |CTAPOMAK| (~kvirc@host-95-189-176-245.pppoe.omsknet.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[10:13] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@host-95-189-176-245.pppoe.omsknet.ru' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:13] |CTAPOMAK| (~kvirc@host-95-189-176-245.pppoe.omsknet.ru) left irc: Excess Flood [10:15] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:15] _CTAPOMAK_ (~kvirc@host-92-124-138-255.pppoe.omsknet.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:15] could some kind person help a noobish out with these abbreviations in top CPU(s) us-user sy-system ni-networkinterface? id-idle wa-? hi-? si-? st-? [10:15] Nick change: akmal -> tsuyoi [10:15] dammit, my nick is registered, get yer own [10:15] dillllo (~Unknown@122.161.89.151) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:16] dillllo (~Unknown@122.176.225.190) joined ##slackware. [10:16] Nick change: fortunev_ -> fortunev_noobish [10:16] hehe [10:16] ni=nice [10:16] Nick change: fortunev_noobish -> fortunev_ [10:17] wa-it [10:18] is there any way to make my bash aliases work while using screen? [10:18] source ~/.bash_profile [10:19] noobish (~noobish@173-166-250-126-stockton.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:19] just a sec [10:19] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-45-84-251.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [10:20] dillllo: think screen sources .bash_login, or you can tell it to. [10:21] fortunev_ i'll try that [10:22] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [10:22] www.pastebin.com/7AeqEcZH here's the .bash_profile by the way [10:22] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Client Quit [10:23] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [10:25] dillllo: have a look http://tinyurl.com/2d4krb9 making scree respect bash aliases [10:25] fortunev_: thanks, i'll try [10:25] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] lotec (lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [10:27] edthix (~ed@115.133.244.30) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:29] edthix (~ed@115.133.244.30) joined ##slackware. [10:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:30] Nick change: fortunev_ -> fortunev [10:30] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:36] dillllo (~Unknown@122.176.225.190) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:36] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:37] dillllo (~Unknown@122.176.225.190) joined ##slackware. [10:37] fortunev: it works. thanks :) [10:38] now the only problem is that the framebuffer doesn't work in screen [10:39] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:41] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB845.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). [10:42] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-206-42.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:45] BentoPUNK (BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:46] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [10:48] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) joined ##slackware. [10:49] fluorspar (~fluor@47.Red-88-13-100.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] hello. i have problems getting macromedia flash running. i installed the plugin int he right place, but my browser won't find it. [10:50] good day slackers [10:51] dillllo: my pleasure. Nice to be a help on occasion! [10:52] s_eraph, what browser, arch, flash version??? [10:53] im using opera, x86_64 arch and trying to use the newest version of macromedia flash [10:53] is this in the extra now?? [10:54] no [10:54] Opera is a proprietary software.. doubt its in Slackware. [10:54] flash is in extra/ for 13.1 [10:54] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:54] only on 64-bit however [10:55] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] second (second@unaffiliated/sec0nd) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:56] slack has many proprietary packages in a full install iirc [10:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:57] opera is on SBo, so it isn't wholly unsupported, but not part of slackware proper [10:57] s_eraph, I use one slackbuild... search flashplayer-plugin.SlackBuild, and read about.. [10:57] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [10:57] ViniciusPXMB (~phantomx@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [10:57] if it is in Slackbuilds.org it basicly is unsupported nyRednek :p [10:57] Action: Dominian nods [10:58] pupiteee (~p@91-150-106-153.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:58] maybe the person is better asking in #slackbuilds [10:59] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) left ##slackware. [11:00] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) joined ##slackware. [11:03] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) left ##slackware. [11:15] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:16] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:16] hi all. i need to install vmware vsphere CLI on my slackware64 [11:17] anyone here already tried to install it? [11:17] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.2) joined ##slackware. [11:17] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-206-42.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:17] vmware provides slackware 64bit install script but it cannot find openssl libraries in the system [11:18] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:19] epapi: did you do a full install? [11:19] yes. i've manually checked all pkgs with slackpkg [11:20] well, show the error its throwing. [11:20] pastebin it [11:20] I've never tried to install vsphere client on Slackware [11:20] sure [11:20] http://pastebin.com/ahBJnKS1 [11:21] this is the only output it gives [11:21] the admin guide only covers ubuntu, fedora, sles systems [11:23] the installer script searches for /etc/*-release . [11:23] it should not be a problem.... [11:23] fat_les_ (~leslie@212.183.140.6) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.58.98.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:24] any idea? [11:24] epapi: what the hell is doing cat /etc/*-release... [11:25] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] epapi: here's what I'd so: cp /etc/slackware-version /etc/slackware-release [11:25] the vmware stupid installer script [11:25] hehe [11:25] lol :p [11:25] The stupid installer is basing versioning off of a file that doesn't exist on Slackware. [11:25] doing that command should at least shut that portion up [11:26] or even ln -s /etc/slackware-version /etc/slackware-release [11:26] then you don't have to keep it updated [11:26] yep [11:26] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:26] the cp was for testing [11:26] ;P [11:27] excuses, excuses :P [11:27] new output after that command = the same without "cat ......." [11:27] without looking at the script, it's hard to say anything... [11:28] (could be a version problem for openssl, or that it look in lib instead of lib64, or...) [11:28] yah hard to say what the heck they are lookin gofr [11:30] .....how to paste a 7000 lines long file to pastebin? [11:31] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [11:31] check if it has a file upload option and hope it doesn't have a file size limit :) [11:31] if that doesn't work, you can try pastebin.slackadelic.com it provices a perl script to paste to the pastebin from command line [11:32] http://pastebin.com/9kjVXca8 [11:34] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust66.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:35] this is the installation guide but it isn't useful http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere4/r41/vsp4_41_vcli_inst_script.pdf [11:35] for this problem [11:35] dillllo (~Unknown@122.176.225.190) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:37] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-247.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] ....if you know an alternative, even more basic, program to do common system administration commands against ESX/ESXi systems the problem is solved [11:38] i heard this is the only one for linux but i haven't checked personally [11:41] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [11:44] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [11:45] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:46] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:46] when i create an initrd, how can i know what options i need for mkinitrd? [11:46] by reading it's manpage, or /boot/README.initrd [11:47] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.122) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:48] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:49] wait. i have openssl 0.9.8 not 0.9.7 [11:49] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.60) joined ##slackware. [11:49] and e2fsprog is 1.41.11 not 1.38 [11:49] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.251) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:50] ....do i need to downgrade?.....libraries shouldn't be different [11:50] dillllo (~Unknown@122.176.225.190) joined ##slackware. [11:50] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [11:50] anyone know a nice calculator for the console? bc is too basic [11:51] python [11:51] thrice`: so now my lilo.conf has image = /boot/vmlinuz. Thats the huge kernel? [11:51] and if you import the math module you get a whole lot of stuff to go with it [11:51] fortunev, you tell me - ls -l /boot/vmlinuz [11:51] fortunev: ls -l /boot/vmlinuz [11:51] ah - beat me too it :) [11:52] very nice... it is vmlinuz-huge-2.6.33.4 [11:52] dillllo, there is a calulator called R on sbo - mostly used for stats I think but pretty advanced [11:52] pupiteee (~p@91-150-106-153.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:53] dive: ok, thanks [11:53] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.2) left irc: Quit: Quit Message [11:54] dive: i just checked, and its not really a calculator :/ [11:54] dillllo, and if you catch raella - she uses it a lot I believe [11:54] hmm well it's a language too [11:54] depends what you need to do [11:55] nah, i just need something that can do basic multiplications, divisions and stuff [11:55] well bc can do that fairly well [11:55] thrice`: this is a first for me. After reading the man for the kernel, and figuring out what to pass to mkinitrd, I would add an initrd line to my lilo.conf, and change the image to the generic kernel? [11:55] bc doesn't even give me the result in decimals [11:55] my only gripe with bc is that it needs more maths functions [11:55] dillllo, ?? [11:55] try scale=10 [11:55] 10 / 6 = 1 according to bc [11:55] oh [11:56] lol [11:56] echo "scale=10; 10/6" | bc [11:57] or just type it in line by line [11:57] imprazaguy (~imprazagu@118-168-197-75.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:57] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [11:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [11:58] fortunev, it's pretty easy :> did you read the /boot/README.initrd ? it gives a 3-4 step how-to [11:58] with examples, too [11:59] dive: yeah, the echo one works [11:59] though i still dont get how to type it line by line [11:59] thrice`: read it... sounds too simple so it sorta spooked me a bit. [11:59] dillllo, just type 'bc' alone and you will get a prompt [11:59] dive: yeah i know [11:59] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:00] then type 'scale=10' followed by whatever calculations you need [12:00] thrice`: thanks for the "you can do it" I'll give it a whirl [12:00] enter after the scale line of course [12:01] dive: thanks, that works [12:01] scale=10 ; a=10 ; b=6; a/b [12:01] c=a/b; c ; [12:01] replace the ';' with enter [12:01] dive: yes, it works :) [12:02] imprazaguy (imprazagu@118-168-197-75.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [12:02] i learn new stuff everyday [12:02] :) [12:02] read man bc [12:02] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [12:03] it's all there, and if you load the maths functions you can use log, sin, cos, tan etc [12:03] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [12:03] fortunev, which file system do you use ? [12:03] hmmm bc is more advanced than i thought ;) [12:03] i thought it meant 'basic calculator' :P [12:04] psych0_ (~virus@187.2.67.94) left irc: Quit: Saindo [12:04] it's very powerful when you learn it [12:04] it can't do basic trig stuff, can it? [12:04] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BD7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:04] I think that's why I've always written it off [12:04] well you can do sin/cos/tan [12:05] so if you know the formulas you can do some trig [12:05] thrice`: ext4 so im guessing add the -m ext4 -f ext4 [12:05] Runtime error (func=(main), adr=6): Function sin not defined. [12:05] dillllo: xcalc not robust enough? [12:05] thrice`, s() = sin() [12:05] gnubien: i said goodbye to X :D [12:05] fortunev, looks good :) "mkinitrd -m ext4 -f ext4 -r " looks good [12:05] thrice`, s() c() a() (I think for that last one) [12:05] d'oh, ok [12:05] tmux is the shit ;) [12:05] need to read up again [12:06] now i can finally say goodbye to my mouse ;) [12:06] probably t() for tan [12:06] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB845.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:06] no tangent, iirc [12:06] that's funny, i was giving bc lessons here just yesterday [12:07] thrice`, but you have to load the maths library with -l [12:07] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:07] thrice`: for the root partition mount says /dev/root is that right for -r? [12:07] mancha, right it's arctangent a() [12:07] Nick change: rhisa -> missyrissy [12:08] fortunev, should be OK, as long as your /dev/root link is OK. you can also use /dev/sda1 or whatever your root FS really is [12:08] k [12:08] /dev/root is slackware specific I think, so I don't like using it [12:09] Nick change: dillllo -> kickback [12:11] Anyone here installed java with wine? [12:12] missyrissy, I think I may have tried once [12:12] what close to 0 is the precision for the fp numbers in bc? [12:12] some time ago and I don't think it worked [12:12] missyrissy, ended up using a vm for what I need to do at the time [12:12] Damn. [12:13] missyrissy, that was a long time ago though so you may have better luck [12:14] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@host-95-189-176-245.pppoe.omsknet.ru expired. [12:14] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@host-95-189-176-245.pppoe.omsknet.ru' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:14] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:15] fat_les_ (~leslie@212.183.140.6) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:16] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:18] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/archive-139210.html Which one is JVM? :( [12:18] fluorspar, can't really find any info on precision. [12:19] damn how the hell do i take a screenshot of a tty screen? o.O [12:19] how I know what dev the kernel create when I plug a usb device? when I make "modprobe blabla" dmesg says "usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic" and in cat /proc/tty/drivers I see the /dev/point that I want, but it doesnt exist in /dev/... [12:19] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [12:22] missyrissy, unless you want the dev kit it's JRE but it looks like the ones on the page are mixed. JRE/JDK 6 looks to be the latest. But have you looked here: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com [12:23] dive, accuracy? it sound tarantantan? [12:23] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [12:23] kickback, screen has a function to dump tty console text and I would guess tmux has similar? [12:23] trone, dmesg | tail [12:24] dive: dumb as in, will it show the colors n shit i'm using? [12:24] s/dumb/dump [12:24] :( Yeah it's nto working. [12:24] fluorspar, dunno mate. It is call and arbitrary precision which I guess means the usual disclaimer about not being fit for purpose etc ;) [12:24] s/call and/called an/ [12:25] thrice`: maybe I need more spam from kernel... It's give me just 3 rows... [12:25] thrice`: (I'm sure that there'is a debug option) [12:25] trone, dmesg | tail -n 20 [12:25] trone, it's a mass-storage device? [12:26] Nick change: gartt -> gart [12:26] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:26] oh, i got it. fbgrab is a tool for capturing linux framebuffer [12:26] thrice`: it's a g3-modem (usbserial) with a mass-storage slot... [12:26] thrice`, dive: http://paste.debian.net/86725/ [12:27] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:28] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) joined ##slackware. [12:28] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:28] I should to have a /dev/ttyUSB0 in dev... but is not there... damnit. [12:28] ah - no clue here; not a typical mass-storage I guess [12:29] mm I have a phone that has a modem and also mass storage, but only one at a time - you can't use it for both [12:29] initrd.gz created, modified lilo.conf, ran /sbin/lilo, about to reboot. Is there anything else I need to do prior to rebooting? [12:29] ttyUSB0 will be the modem [12:30] and storage should appear as /dev/sdaN [12:30] dive: it's ok. How I can "force" him to be modem? (yes ttyUSB0 is the modem device... if I will have it) [12:30] or sdb [12:31] if I'm not back in a few, somethings gone horribly wrong :) l8r [12:31] dive: Indeed, I'm a bit troubled from this: "I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage" (maybe the kernel see it just as usb-storage...) [12:31] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:31] trone, by the look of those messages it _is_ registering as a modem [12:31] hmm [12:31] rafu (~rafu@157-239-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [12:31] strange [12:31] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:32] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-206-42.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:32] rafu (~rafu@157-239-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Client Quit [12:35] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] ahhh.... very nice indeed! another notch in my novice belt. Hi Yah! [12:35] Nick change: fortunev -> noob-ninja [12:36] congrats :) not so bad, he? [12:36] eh?* [12:36] dive: making a diff between ls -1 /dev before and after plug the keys, I've seen that kernel creates /dev/sr0 (and it's the mass storage), /dev/usbdev1.6 (?) and /dev/sg3 ... I'm googling info about the last. [12:36] trone, so kernel is only seeing mass storage [12:36] is there a way to confirm that that new kernel in use is the generic one? [12:37] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [12:37] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:37] thrice`: not so bad at all. Thanks again! [12:37] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.100.214) joined ##slackware. [12:37] dive: could be. [12:37] trone, did you say you modprobed a driver? [12:37] ddddd [12:38] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BD7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [12:38] dive: yeah: modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1c9e product=0xf000 [12:38] I'm sorry [12:38] trone, what make is this thing? [12:38] Roin (~florian@p5B2BD7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] make+model [12:39] thrice`: is there a way to confirm im using generic vs huge? [12:39] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@82.84.100.214) left irc: Client Quit [12:39] umm, probably :p does "lsmod" show ext4 ? [12:40] dive: it's to be sure to load the module with the usbkey's spec . I do it to be more accurate [12:40] yes it does, but would the huge have shown ext4 also? [12:40] with mine I just plug it in and I get a driver module autoloaded [12:40] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:41] noob-ninja, nope; huge has ext4 built-in . your "-m ext4" to mkinitrd means "include the ext4 module so that I can boot my ext4 system" [12:41] and the usbdevices looks completely different due to all the driver/module info [12:42] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-217.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:42] thrice`: awesome! [12:42] trone, what make and model is it? [12:43] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-148-175.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:44] dive: the modem it's a Telsey HSUPA 7.2 [12:44] Nick change: noob-ninja -> fortunev [12:44] dive: (don't know the exact model... I've just the product_id. [12:48] trone, zgrep USB_CDC_COMPOSITE /proc/config.gz [12:49] ouch. miss. [12:49] seems that's the driver that mine uses [12:49] hmm wait [12:51] modprobe cdc_acm [12:51] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.229) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:52] I have cdc-acm and wdm... now I've loaded it. [12:54] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-206-42.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:56] dive: mm.. ok, I've seen that its chipset is Qualcomm, and I miss USB_SERIAL_QUALCOMM in my kernel. I can try to recompile kernel and test it. :) [12:56] ashe (~ashe@125.166.160.205) joined ##slackware. [12:56] dive: of course, thanks for your attention. ^_^ great chan. Thankyou all. [12:58] no problem, hope it works [12:58] I wonder if huge has that as a module? [12:58] dive: Yep. me too. But I found also "fun" this hardware configure part. :) [12:59] dive: honestly I don't know. Check. [12:59] one sec and I'll find it [12:59] module apparently [12:59] dive: oh sorry. my "check" was "I'll check", not you. :-/ [13:00] I was going to anyway [13:00] gofor (~tux@122-124-131-73.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@122-124-*.dynamic.hinet.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:00] gofor kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: nogo, ban avoidance doesn't prove how smart you are - it proves that you really are an asshat. [13:01] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) joined ##slackware. [13:02] woo I like slackboy's ban messages ._. [13:03] trone, try modprobe qcserial [13:03] Roin, they are customised for the occasion [13:04] dive: yep, is waht I want to do. But I have to rebuild the kernel. 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[14:38] i don't like the idea of running random software from every site i visit just for eye candy [14:39] i totally agree, the sites run really fast without all that added stuff [14:40] i have a feeling a lot of those linux related sites were coded with nothing more than a text editor [14:40] it especially pisses me off when a website requires javascript just to view an image in full size [14:41] this is a fine example [14:41] http://www.postfix.org [14:42] NyteOwl (~nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:42] i suppose its cause they can make a website without adobe or ms [14:42] stallman.org will be another fine example [14:42] error oading postfix.org : host not found [14:42] :/ [14:43] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [14:44] dustybin: maddox.xmission.com as well ;) [14:44] or try cr.yp.to [14:45] nice :D i like html only websites, i think they are much more cool than a bloated php / java site [14:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:46] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:46] Pref (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:47] i think its time to remove wordpress and code a html site from scratch [14:47] Hammer and chisel anyone? [14:48] lets get back to stone tablets... :-P [14:48] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:49] magic people voodoo people [14:49] heh. fancy websites have pissed me off to the point that i've compleely gotten rid of X from my PC :/ [14:49] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:49] i'm a consolefag now [14:49] lol [14:49] I installed joomla on mine a little while ago [14:50] kickback: lynx w3m mutt and so on? [14:50] slower to load but lets me worry about the content rather than the code [14:50] i use i3, excellent wm [14:50] MarderIII: yeah, links2, mocp and tmux now :) [14:50] dustybin: try evilwm for true minimalism [14:51] I rather like textpattern. fast, efficient and doesn't get in the way [14:51] is tmux considered a WM? [14:51] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:51] no [14:51] viewing websites with links is a pain [14:51] dustybin: not when you're using the framebuffer to render images [14:51] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Pref (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] kickback: oh nice [14:52] i didnt know you can do that [14:52] [in bed] [14:53] dustybin: yeah, with links2, run 'links -g' and it'll use the framebuffer to render the images when you're in a tty [14:53] with elinks+youtube.js+mplayer -vo svga you can even watch youtube [14:53] jeeze nice [14:54] i hate flash, so i didnt bother :) [14:54] elinks>links imo [14:55] running a graphical browser, music player, irc and text editors in under 50 MB of ram [14:55] feels good man [14:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:10] wikivs.com/wiki/Screen_vs_tmux_ [15:11] I don't really need any screen splitting so I'll use screen for now [15:11] I can just ctrl-a ctrl-a to the next screen [15:11] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:13] dive: try splitting in screen. its pretty useful [15:13] splitting's good [15:13] and overall I prefer tmux [15:13] not for me [15:13] also, you can use different users in tmux [15:13] pretty tricky [15:13] su - someoneelse [15:13] adrien: you can do that in screen too iirc [15:14] kickback: of course you can, you can also fly to mars on your own, might be a tad difficult however [15:14] or just set sccreen to ask for a login every time [15:14] you can anything in screen as you can in a shell including su [15:15] no, I mean: su, *then* screen, and have the screen usable by the other user [15:15] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F2DE8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] screen -X [15:15] ? [15:15] or something [15:16] so more than one user can log into the same screen session, yes [15:17] hmm not -X but it is possible [15:18] -x [15:18] no that's not for different users [15:19] iirc that is multidisplay mode can't remember for sure if its restricted to one user [15:20] well doesn't list or work here [15:21] so unless that screen socket is made then you can't connect by the look of it [15:22] also: [15:22] Screen is a full-screen window manager [15:23] so yes it is (apparently) [15:23] damn. how do i lock the screen with tmux? [15:26] grazymax (~grazymax@host55-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:26] why do you want to lock screen? [15:27] adrien: so that nobody can mess around if i'm away for a while [15:27] it was C-a C-x with screen [15:27] does it have to be tmux, kickback ? if not, man xlock ... [15:28] jg71: i don't use X annymore [15:28] ah k [15:28] kickback: detach it and close the session? [15:29] adrien: ok, makes sense [15:29] tribeca (~naitso@host102-105-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Hi all [15:29] but magic sysrq will break anything you could imagine if someone has physical access [15:29] hi tribeca [15:30] adrien: nah, its just so some randon faggot won't start using my pc for browsing porn or something when i'm away for a bit [15:31] woah, vulgar [15:31] kickback: yeah, no that, I have a brother who will be happy to mess with my computer (haven't said he'd be loading ascii pr0n [15:31] ) [15:33] wont't logging out end my tmux session? [15:33] detach first :P [15:34] yes thats what i meant [15:34] i'll try [15:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:34] yay it worked! :D [15:35] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:35] slackie_ (~x@81.193.93.10) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [15:35] tmux is gotta be the hippest, slickest dick ever :D [15:37] Action: thrice` doesn't want to know [15:40] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [15:40] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:40] is it screen-user friendly? [15:41] by that i mean .. how easy/fast it is for a long time screen user to get familiar/adapted to it [15:41] depends: have you spend the last 10 years using screen? [15:41] also does it have vertical split like git ver of screen ? [15:41] do you dream in screen? [15:41] it has [15:42] not really more like a couple of them [15:42] I don't think it'll be hard: some things are different but it's not hard [15:42] artaud_ (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:42] (prefix, c, n, p, ... all same behaviour) [15:43] i see .. might give it a try then [15:44] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:46] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:46] tribeca_ (~naitso@host243-15-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Drakevr: not very tough. just spend like 5-10 minutes reading man sscreen and you're done [15:47] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:47] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [15:47] man tmux you mean ? [15:47] Drakevr: yeah sorry [15:47] how do i configure gpm? [15:48] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:48] sorry for repeating myself... 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[16:09] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-81-201.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:09] I love vertical split [16:09] that could so be misinterpreted [16:09] Drakevr: 'C-b ?' that'll list shortcuts (and you can configure everything) [16:09] Mowah (~Mowah@c-a784e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:10] rah, took me a while to understand /o\ [16:10] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-148-175.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:10] Roin (~florian@p5B2BD7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: brb [16:11] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:12] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-16-52.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:15] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: [16:19] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:21] Roin (~florian@p5B2BD7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:37] Sweet, thx [16:37] i didn't understand the other stuff :) [16:38] darkrho (~rolando@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:38] Cyb3rSoli3r (William@99-108-248-110.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [16:38] both slackware and debian were sls forks, google sls. they were born roughly around the same time... [16:39] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:40] Mowah (~Mowah@c-a784e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:41] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. 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[17:20] nooper (~nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:23] hey guys [17:23] I used to have flash x86_64 [17:24] I heard that support has been stopped. [17:24] what do you guys recommend? [17:25] i don't recommend you use the last available 64 bit player since exploits are rampant in the wild. [17:25] Action: slava_dp still uses flash x64. [17:25] Action: slava_dp has flashblock and only enables those flashes he wants to see. [17:26] coredumb1 (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [17:26] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:27] night, slackers :) [17:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:27] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [17:28] hahn (~hahn@203.128.250.39) joined ##slackware. [17:29] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [17:29] do this [17:30] grep -rA2 /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.4 [17:30] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [17:31] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-33.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:33] no such file or directory [17:33] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:34] dustybin, hahah "/* Thats bullsh*t, only the [..]" haaha [17:34] had not thought to try that before.. [17:34] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:35] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [17:39] muumi (1000@85-156-17-43.elisa-mobile.fi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:41] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:41] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [17:43] grep -nHr uck /usr/src/linux* [17:45] adobe doesn't seem to carry the binaries anymore. [17:45] I'm hesitant to pull the google hack: intitle:index.of flash x86_64 [17:47] I recall using something else back in the slamd64 days. [17:47] nspluginwrapper? [17:48] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-72.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:49] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:50] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:50] Buggaboo, adobe dropped flash64, that wrapper lets you use the 32 bit version [17:50] stupid adobe. [17:51] How dare they make decisions based on economic reasoning? [17:51] I think I'm hitting a slackware bug (or maybe misconfiguration but I doubt it) but maybe it's design actually: if I set eth0 and eth1 to use dhcp, if eth0 doesn't succeed getting an IP, then eth1 isn't even tried [17:51] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:51] would that be on purpose? (I doubt it but it's almost midnight and I'm getting pretty tired) [17:51] adrien, that stuff might be in /etc/udev/rules.d [17:52] john_dee (~id@95-29-146-246.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:52] you might want to change the rule that creates those devices. [17:52] Buggaboo: it's in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [17:52] Are you using some kind of shorewall setup? [17:52] adrien, oops, my bad. [17:58] I found "extra/source/flashplayer-plugin" in the 13.1 64 iso. [17:59] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:59] adrien, read the init script... [18:01] edman007: what do you think I'm doing? [18:01] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [18:02] adrien, might just have forgotten to update the index or something in the config [18:03] john_dee (~id@95-29-146-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:03] hahn (~hahn@203.128.250.39) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:03] hm wow. [18:04] hahn (~hahn@203.128.250.39) joined ##slackware. [18:04] the 13.1 iso contains a working slackbuild for wgetting a flash 64 binary from adobe. [18:04] it's in extra/source [18:05] not just in extra, it's concealed in source, sneaky guys. [18:05] they know almost nobody looks in there. [18:05] speaking of not looking there, I need to recompile mutt. [18:06] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:06] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:06] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [18:08] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:09] Wow this has been a productive evening. [18:09] nokia3510 (nokia@fedora/nokia3510) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:10] well i'm kinda sad that i find somewhat of a bug in make... it automatically makes /usr/lib and /lib part of its path, this is hard coded into the source and can't be edited without patching (and thus make can't be configured to look in /usr/lib64 and /lib64) [18:10] s/find/found/ [18:10] can you make /usr/lib/lib64 point to /usr/lib64? [18:10] i'll probably submit a bug to the make people [18:11] sed -i 's@/usr/lib@/usr/lib64@' * [18:11] done. [18:11] hahn (~hahn@203.128.250.39) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:11] i don't think you can sed strings in object code and expect it to work 100% [18:12] though in this case it might, worth a shot at least. [18:12] sed 's@/usr/lib@/usr/lib64@g' orig | diff orig > patch # this is totall wrong but you get the idea [18:12] mancha: I can absolutely 100% guarantee this will fail 100% [18:12] o. [18:12] object code. [18:12] you need the source dewd. [18:13] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:13] er, hardcoded in make? you probably mean the makefile of the project you are building? [18:13] Buggaboo your idea is not too bad, i've done this on object code before. It really depends on the structure of the code. [18:13] make -f makefile [18:14] you want to modify 'makefile', not make. [18:14] but it sounds like edman might have to recompile make [18:14] all make does is act weird if you get spaces and tabs confused, and compile changed source code from time to time. [18:14] mancha, i already did (and submitted that option to pat), but i think i need to patch make as well...not completely sure on that though... [18:15] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:15] ccache and distcc like to work with make. [18:15] oh i don't know the particulars of what you're up to (regarding make). [18:15] but hardcoding library paths doesn't strike me as the best model to follow. [18:16] exactly, and i think that by itself is a bug [18:16] and i'm really surprised that it still exists like that [18:16] not even gentoo seems to have patched it [18:17] To be honest I never liked make, when coding my own C++ projects, I'd rather go with some python based compiler helper thingy. [18:18] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Buggaboo, mancha anyways, this is the chunk of source i don't like.. http://pastebin.ca/1929431 [18:19] from GNU make, remake.c [18:19] edman007: yummy [18:19] i really expected better from them (though the configure script looks like there *might* be a way to stuff multiple directories into LIBDIR, i have yet to find any documentation on doing that [18:19] when is the _amiga stuff activated? [18:20] i suppose when you are building on amiga? [18:20] oh wait, ifndef [18:20] I read a ifdef [18:20] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [18:20] crap. [18:20] yea, i suppose amiga doesn't have those directories... [18:20] I guess I'm not happy with it either :( [18:21] heh [18:21] Is there a -DSIXTYFOUR or something? [18:22] or a plain #define somewhere? [18:22] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:22] nope, from what I can tell the --libdir=XXX in the configure script just adds -DLIBDIR=XXX to the compile line... [18:22] This shouldn't be hard, but it needs to go upstream rather than only to Pat. [18:23] but i see an $additional_libdir in the configure script, it looks interesting, but i don't know what it does [18:23] And whatever value for libdir should should override /usr/lib? [18:24] Buggaboo, i already told him to add --libdir=XXX to the slackbuild, that is a patchless easy fix, weather or not it needs more i don't know [18:24] grep -nHr additional_libdir . [18:24] tinyfugue used to have that problem, I always sedded it. [18:24] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:25] I haven't mudded in ages, so I don't know how package managers do it nowadays. [18:25] Buggaboo, not one comment comes up with that... [18:25] bloody annoying. [18:25] they didn't have DESTDIR back in the daze. [18:26] I still hate gnu make really. I'm still traumatized by the tabs. [18:26] when did this become an issue edman? [18:27] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:27] I can appreciate whitespace, the programming language, but tabs in gnu make is just to fuck with noobs. [18:27] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-109-66-12-138.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:28] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-109-66-12-138.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [18:28] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [18:28] so the people in the know can rest assure that they are 1337. [18:28] Action: elliot98 waves to all [18:29] I am wondering how to play a directory that has a dvd file directory structure, since in the xine and others, it plays from /dev/dvd [18:29] same way [18:29] chances are it won't be one file, but ypu'll have VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS and VOBs, etc. [18:30] elliot98, trial and error with mplayer? [18:30] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:30] exactly, is there a way to treat it a device instead of accessing all the individual files [18:30] *as a [18:30] yes, just play it with /path/to/dvd_structure [18:30] also, is it possible to access a device file through NFS [18:31] elliot98, mplayer dvd:// -dvd-device /path/to/ripped/dvd [18:31] try that? [18:31] basically, I want to remotely access a dvd and I'm trying to find out the best way to do it [18:31] what do you mean by remote? [18:31] ssh port-forwarding and pipe through a stream? [18:32] vlc is better. [18:32] in that respect. [18:33] vlc has to start publishing version-to-version patches [18:33] Buggaboo: I'll give the mplayer a try...yes, basically access the dvd from a remote system [18:33] the client does not have a dvd reader [18:34] elliot98, you're better off with vlc. [18:34] vlc has hmm... better gui for this. [18:34] All you have to do is have a nice stable network connection. [18:34] jcn` (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [18:35] http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch08.html [18:35] yes, I was thinking vlc would b e a good solution [18:35] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:36] thanks! [18:36] Action: Buggaboo flexes his google muscles. [18:37] And if you're going to do it across lans, via the internet. [18:37] mancha, building FF [18:37] You have to port-forward that shiznit. [18:37] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F2DE8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:38] ssh -L:: entry_point_ip_addr [18:38] Buggaboo: the only thing with VLC is that the client doesn't have much control over the stream [18:38] entry_point_ip_addr looks like this: username@ipaddroffirewall.com [18:39] edman, i see. [18:39] elliot98, then control the server? [18:39] mancha, the FF build scripts decided to put system libs as deps to some things, which caused make to go off searching for system libs [18:41] Buggaboo: just the client should be able to play the dvd at his leisure [18:41] after port-forwarding/tunneling to the machine you want to receive the stream from (server), you need to plug your client to the [18:41] and since i've not heard a nuclear bomb go off, is it safe to assume other 64 bit distribs do compile make with the right paths hardcoded? [18:41] localhost: [18:41] Buggaboo: gotcha [18:42] muumi (~kimmo@dyn2-212-50-134-176.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] oh, if you want to control the server, you'll want to start ssh x-forwarding. [18:42] alias ssh="$(which ssh) -X" [18:42] make sure the server allows it. [18:42] ok [18:42] so you get a nice gui to control the stream server. [18:42] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:43] aha, is there any kind of audio-forwarding? [18:43] mancha, well, mostly...not all [18:43] can't use something like LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? [18:43] I was hoping you were watching those old-fashioned black and white films from the 1920's [18:43] you only get the issue when you compile make without --libdir, on a distro that has libpthread in /usr/lib64 and not /usr/lib [18:44] charlie chaplin [18:44] mancha, nope, make be stupid [18:44] ah, i see. okay, it is clearer now. [18:44] yeah, but even they had a jumpy piano playing :) [18:44] you seem to have stumbled on a very particular set of circumstances [18:44] definitely [18:45] firefox is maybe the only project using that make "feature" [18:45] has there been any proposal for NFS replacements? [18:45] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:45] What's that lib that creates a fake sound card on vmguests? [18:45] or new features in NFS? [18:45] audio something, sound something? [18:45] mancha, yea, called slackware, but at least one other person is on the moz bug db complaining, and i saw another complaining about that didn't seem to be on slackware [18:45] elliot98: coda, [18:45] ? [18:46] adrien, that is exactly it, none of the major projects use that "feature", and even FF didn't start using it until 3.7 [18:46] edman007: do you know who introduced that? [18:46] (in firefox) [18:47] streaming audio on vlc is totally doable. [18:47] just exercise your google muscles. [18:48] well, it seems encrypting NFS has always been a chore and ssh-NFS doesn't provide file locking [18:49] adrien, no, it comes from such a crazy way around...best i can tell nspr adds the OS_LIBS to its own libs, and that gets set as a dep by everything using nspr...but thats the furthest i tracked it [18:49] screw nfs, just sshfs. [18:49] +use [18:49] not sure if the OS_LIBS as an NSPR lib is the problem or not [18:49] coda, never heard of it [18:49] edman007: I wanted to see who the guy was and which other projects he could have worked on [18:50] edman007: are they using git for ff? if so, do you have such a git, [18:50] yes, but file locking is important, sshfs doesn't provide that [18:50] adrien, they use hg [18:51] hmm, don't know hg well enough [18:51] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [18:52] edman007: you have the hg repo for it? (on your computer) [18:52] Roin (~florian@p5B2BD7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [18:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:53] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [18:53] bijit (~bijit@186.4.3.18) joined ##slackware. [18:53] i did, and then i found out the version of autoconf in slackware isn't compatible with FF...they only support one version of auto conf, no later, no eariler...i'm not installing an older version to screw with FF [18:54] edman007, I hope you're doing this from a vm. [18:54] so you removed it? [18:54] smb isn't bad, but that's not a native linux file sharing system [18:54] samba, that is [18:55] cifs [18:55] adrien, dunno... [18:55] Buggaboo, why? [18:56] edman007: if you haven't: run 'hg blame $weird_makefile', locate the offending code, find the name of the commiter, and tell me who ;-) [18:56] if you have, I'll do that myself ;-) [18:56] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-41-227-230.ip83.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:56] cifs/samba, well that's what it's called in the kernel. [18:57] oh, ok [18:57] that'll also did, I guess, but for some reason I don't always get a linuxy feel when using it [18:57] adrien, hah, ok...i'll screw around with it, truth is i haven't exactly located the offending line, i tracked down what the error is and what causes it, i know what class it falls into, and autoconf obfuscates the hell out of it so i can't actually find the line that triggers the error [18:58] like how I am not sure if it differentiates between upper and lower case filenames [18:58] nfs is faster than cifs. I recall some benchmark from the past. [18:58] edman007: 'grep -- -lpthread **/Makefile*' :P [18:58] who knows how much tweaking has taken place since then... [19:00] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.212.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:01] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [19:01] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.214.138) joined ##slackware. [19:01] adrien, i build it on tmpfs and rebooted...i'll do it in a bit [19:03] ehm, tmpfs, means you mounted on memory, and rebooted? Don't you lose your work?! [19:04] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-135-68.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:05] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [19:06] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@99.18.24.195) joined ##slackware. [19:06] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-135-68.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:13] Razec (~razec@201-92-72-48.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[19:43] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:43] thumbs, i put "extension=snmp.so" in my php.ini, then restarted apache, and tried "php -m" but don't see it listed there [19:43] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:45] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] no messages in error_log either [19:46] Weird0ne (~julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:46] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:46] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [19:50] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.169) joined ##slackware. [19:52] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:53] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:54] luiz (luiz@189-55-88-166-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:55] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [19:56] anyone know how i get the system beep to go through alsa? seems like it use to work, and now does not (kernel issue?) [19:56] ezrafree: a default install of apache/php on slackware loads the snmp module by default [19:58] edman007: google says something about virtual pc speakers, but i am unable to find specifics [19:59] well i got that far.. [19:59] ended up at a 404 [19:59] hehe, seems like everyone else on google did too :\ [19:59] sad but true [19:59] i don't know the alsa system enough to take it further than that :\ [19:59] Why google nor firefox have smooth scrolling ? [19:59] well, no, seems like everyone else wants it disabled and thus turns the system beep off [19:59] yeah [20:00] paul424, ff4 has it... [20:00] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:02] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:02] gniks: i wouldn't know, i compiled apache myself [20:02] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:02] thanks anyway folks [20:03] ezrafree: php and apache don't dictate each others modules [20:03] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [20:03] so if php was installed with the txz package, snmp.so is enabled [20:03] assuming you didn't change php.ini [20:03] php -i | grep snmp [20:03] should yield the configure line [20:03] and that is all [20:05] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-41-227-230.ip83.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [20:06] or you could pull up the php test page [20:08] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:09] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:10] gniks, found that gentoo link, and it is a crappy solution [20:11] hmm whts the solution? [20:12] make a daemon that listens for a bell and plays a wav through alsa... [20:12] lol [20:12] do you have an aux in on your audio card? you could unplug the speaker and plug it into your audio card directly :p [20:13] no, looking right now, seems like the audio card actually has a system beep function, but sometimes the driver doesn't pick up on it.. [20:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [20:18] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:20] NyteOwl (~nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Addit Frena Feris [20:22] pupiteee (~p@91-150-106-153.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:22] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:23] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [20:23] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@99.18.24.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:27] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.57.91.101) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [20:29] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:29] gniks, i think i found it, i found some devs saying the system beep through the speakers was a bug and they fixed it [20:30] :( [20:30] :p [20:31] thats sad [20:31] they should make the bug into a feature :p [20:32] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:32] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] woh3 (will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [20:33] gniks, apparently the sound card supports a function where the bios tells the OS that there is no pc speaker and to use the audio card, well they now properly read the flag, since i have a pc speaker i can't have it in the speakers as well [20:33] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [20:33] will your bios disable the system speaker? [20:34] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [20:35] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:38] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [20:39] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:42] jcn` (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:43] HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::1) joined ##slackware. [20:44] skulls (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/skulls) joined ##slackware. [20:45] I'd love to get the system beep working on both my laptop & netbook [20:45] < lagged [20:45] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] hey guys I have stuttering sound, think my sound card may be playing its last tune? [20:46] as it stands now, cheesy hack: [20:46] unlikely. with electronics these days there are often only two states: working and non-working [20:47] connection (40e9cf4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.233.207.75) joined ##slackware. [20:47] xovan: it may be an issue with drivers [20:47] #!/bin/sh [20:47] aplay -q $(ls /usr/share/apps/blinken/sounds/?.wav | shuffle -n2) 2> /dev/null [20:47] I call it 'beeps' so it doesn't conflict with jonath's 'beep' [20:48] ananke: damn [20:48] lulz [20:48] was looking forward to a new one. :D [20:49] connection (40e9cf4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.233.207.75) left ##slackware. [20:49] HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::1) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:49] at any rate what command should I invoke to see just what driver its using? [20:49] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:52] good question, actually [20:53] alsamixer shows the card & chipset detected, but I'm unsure how to go about seeing the driver (directly, anyway) [20:53] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [20:53] says its ca0106 just like it should. [20:56] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:57] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] I am tryign to troubleshoot my system. It says floppy disk fail (40) and says press F1 to continue. First of all, I don't have a floppy drive. Secondly, my keyboard is an internet keyboard and the F1 is is multifunctional, so pressing F1 doesn't do anything. Any help? [20:59] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:59] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-217.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:59] got a regular keyboard lying around? [20:59] cryptico0: are you shitting me? [20:59] cryptico0: are you using linux? [21:00] so use the mod key to enable the f1 key press [21:00] thats a bios error [21:00] what mod key? no regular keyboard sorry. Yes, I am using slackware 12 [21:01] look around for something like Fn [21:01] do you have an fn key ? [21:02] PowerTux (~lgsm@189.35.151.175) joined ##slackware. [21:02] dang it, there was this F key separately on the keyboard that did the trick. You know I have had this problem for years. Every few months, I would have to hook up my server to a monitor to see what was wrong and I would get stuck at the F1 key [21:02] and the solution was so simple, grrrrrrrrrr [21:03] hi all, anyone knows why my Audiophile 2496 soundcard volume is too lower ? [21:03] cryptic0: so you need to find the fn key. But you need to go into the bios turn disable the floppy dirve or when u reboot it is going to happen again [21:03] the volume is high, no mute, i heard sound too lower [21:03] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [21:03] snd_ice1712 : VIA Technologies Inc.|ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1412 device:1712 subv:1412 subd:d634) (rev: 02) [21:04] lotec: I don't know how that option got enabled. I recently moved and since then the machine was having problem. ONly today I was able to get a monitor hooked up to see what was going on. Initially it said CMOS problem, so I went in setup and reentered today's date and time. Could it be that my battery died? [21:04] cryptic0 i would guess your bios battery is dead [21:05] ok, that'll explain it. It's been a few years, 8 to be exact. [21:05] cryptic0: I love old machines [21:05] can I buy the bios battery at a local store? [21:05] radio shack has them [21:05] xovan: me 2. Nothing like the dependability of an old server running linux on amd athlon processor with 256MB of RAM [21:06] lotec: ok great. [21:06] thanks for all your help guys [21:06] I am outta here, gotta go pick up wife from work. [21:06] bbl [21:06] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:07] PowerTux (~lgsm@189.35.151.175) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:08] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [21:09] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:10] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [21:19] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:19] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:19] stuck a usb headset in pulled out soundcard works fine now [21:20] skulls (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/skulls) left irc: Quit: Quit [21:20] driver must suck [21:20] heheheh xovan said he pulled out :D [21:20] the paper bag kept coming off [21:20] paper clips next time? [21:21] will she still be able to breathe? [21:21] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:22] who cares? [21:23] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [21:24] What would one recommend to backup 20TiB of data from 20 servers that are both win and linux? In terms of software. [21:26] Considering that they are somewhat loaded, hd read speed during backups must be controlled and there must be way to encrypt some backups [21:27] john_dee, Dang, 20tb of data. What kind of data? [21:27] are you trying to put all 20 TB of data on one drive or across multiple drives? [21:27] Different. Mostly DBs [21:27] It has to be across multiple drive, there is no such thing as singular 20tb hard drive. [21:28] xovan, i hope he is not trying to stick 20tb on one drive :D [21:28] xovan: Across multiple drives, computers [21:28] lotec: :D [21:28] That'd be impossible. [21:28] john_dee i would probley just do 2 different backup's man [21:28] that will be a mess if you try to restore [21:29] I imagine you could ask the database vendor on how to best back up that many data. [21:29] Well. That's kinda hard. Consider it'll be just filesystem backup [21:29] u could use tar on linux http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap29sec306.html [21:29] well all I can say is I ftp stuff to my private server when I need to back up junk. [21:29] Big filesystem :P [21:29] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:30] Multiple big filesystems on many computers [21:30] Could bacula handle that? [21:30] john_dee, there is probley a program out there to use, but man [21:30] is bacula even updated? [21:30] john_dee, hm.. individual backup? One by one? [21:30] I think so [21:31] For that size, don't you have a backup / storage team? [21:31] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [21:31] missyrissy: Well. That's the point. To think of solution. No, no team. I'm the team :) [21:32] Ouch poor you. [21:32] Want a massage? [21:32] :] That's my only suggestion to you now. [21:32] looks like bacula is pretty up to date [21:32] Yeah :D [21:32] i would give that a shot [21:32] missy ill take a massage [21:33] can i make an appt for tommorow say 1? [21:33] HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::1) joined ##slackware. [21:34] I'm booked for john_dee. [21:34] :( [21:35] all well ill call the asian place down the road [21:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:35] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.57.91.101) joined ##slackware. [21:35] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:36] lotec: Yup. Well, wiki gives a lot of options regarding the software. I was just thinking that somebody might have had experience with such products and could recommend something. Bacula was my first thought as I've heard some good things about it. [21:36] o there are people in here that can help yea, just hang around and ask [21:37] i mean i gues the frist ? is, does it matter where the data is. like can a file from a doze server go to the linux server? [21:37] if someone is expceting to find the data on a certain area, that might cause a problem for users [21:37] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:37] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [21:37] HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::1) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:38] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:39] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [21:41] I need some port forward help [21:41] It better not ^) I guess I'll just start with bacula and see what it can do [21:42] I have set up ports 5800-5801 to be forwarded to a machine behind my router, but connection to the router with either 5800 or 5801 port numbers generates error that it cannot resolve the name [21:42] sure the ip is correct? and the forward was set right? [21:43] lotec: I am using dd-wrt and I think I did it right. but let me double check [21:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [21:44] what is port forward from and port forward to? [21:45] should from be 5800 and to be 22 (the default ssh port?) [21:45] 5800 is just an imaginary number I cooked up [21:45] huh? [21:45] no [21:45] if you are trying to ssh to port 5800 it has to be 5800 [21:46] you computer also has to be set to port 5800 if that is what you are choosing [21:46] there are two entries there: port forward from and port forward to [21:46] oh [21:46] so I will have to fiddle with sshd.conf then [21:46] yes [21:46] change the port to what port u are going to use [21:46] so say i use 6700 [21:47] and then both entries on router will have the same number? [21:47] I guess what I am asking is which number corresponds to the one on internal computer [21:47] sorry, this is confusing [21:47] i have 6700 set in my router to forward to my internl ip address of 192.168.1.67 in the sshd.conf i have the same port set in there [21:48] do I have to edit ssh_config file? [21:49] you have to change the for for ssh to what ever port u are using [21:49] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:49] erm [21:49] change the port [21:50] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:50] ok. I am looking at ssh_config file, it has all entries commented out, including the one that says port 22 [21:50] yea so change it [21:50] to your port number [21:50] then in your router [21:50] set the same port that you set in there [21:51] make sure the ip is correct [21:51] you have to restart ssh [21:52] how? ./rc.sshd restart? [21:52] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux-help/82476-starting-ssh-slackware-10-a.html [21:52] that should answer your questions [21:52] but do not [21:53] follow that last post, root login over ssh is bad [21:53] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [21:53] what if you login as user then su to root? sometimes I need to do that [21:53] that is the proper way [21:54] but you can also edit ssh.conf to allow root login, do not do that [21:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:55] drolen (~drolen@187.66.107.238) joined ##slackware. [21:56] cryptic0 here is my sshd_config file [21:56] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/sJA4ZH58.html [21:56] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:57] drolen (~drolen@187.66.107.238) left irc: Client Quit [21:57] goj (~goj@p5488F9CD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:58] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[22:37] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:37] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-68-127-118-185.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-212-57.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:39] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:40] lostmonkey (47bf3f0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.191.63.12) joined ##slackware. [22:42] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Laughing on the outside while you're dying on the inside. [22:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [22:43] Hello, I am having errors pop up at boot time with my new install of slackware 13.1 http://pastebin.com/Dzk9kSbG [22:44] I'm not sure where to start to figure out the errors, that is the info from dmesg [22:44] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:44] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [22:45] lostmonkey, the kernel is panicking... [22:45] what HW do you have? [22:45] mercfate (1000@201-75-81-244-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:45] lostmonkey: thats kernel problems [22:45] hw? hard ware? [22:46] so the kernel does not like the computer I have? [22:46] mancha: not a full panic but certainly not good [22:46] lostmonkey: are you using the stock kernel? [22:46] the mother board is a all in one gigabit [22:46] I beleave so. it is the full dvd iso I am using [22:46] 13.1 [22:47] lostmonkey: you need to get the b43 firmware for a start. [22:47] line 351 [22:48] ty [22:48] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [22:48] probably some sort of power management [22:48] and the system say's memory is alread being used when it first starts. Is that also due to the kernal panic? [22:48] but that wouldn't/shouldn't cause errors like that to appear [22:49] one would think [22:49] lostmonkey: huh? what's the exact error text? [22:49] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:49] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [22:49] looks to me like cpu cores are going low power and it's having a fit about it [22:50] Not the exact error message, word for word but it say's something along error memory already in use [22:50] Marverick (Marverick@200.175.253.49.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [22:51] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:52] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [22:52] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [22:52] lotec: I am still having problems. [22:52] might be good to get the exact error, this oops happens when you boot the 13.1 dvd? have you tried another version )say 13.0) ? [22:53] This message sda: p1 size 312581745 exceeds device capacity, limited to end of disk this drive was my /home in another computer [22:53] lotec: I changed port number to 6900 in ssh_config, then put that port number to be forwarded to the appropriate ip address on the router [22:53] it had no problems but now it has a problem in this computer. [22:53] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [22:53] lost, when does the error happen? when booting the dvd? [22:54] mancha if you are asking me. I had 13.0 running with out problems on the other computer [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:54] too many variables [22:54] I just bought this mb and put my /home in it and installed the new 13.1 dvd [22:54] the errors happen after install and it boots from the system/hard drive not dvd [22:54] that's too complicated. all i need to know is about this error, the HW, and when it happens. not a summary of your life with linux :) [22:54] dvd works well threw the whole install. No errors while installing [22:55] :) [22:55] ok, this is good. [22:56] Should I reinstall but start with only 2 hd's and nic, no extra hd's or wifi and see what happens then add and check for errors? [22:56] for the panics try disabling C1E, turbo-core, cool and quiet 9 in the bios) [22:56] ok [22:56] probably needs a kernel update overall, :) [22:57] i would try blacklisting some stuff, blacklist b43 for starters [22:57] but that should get the panics to stop [22:57] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:57] will start with bios then update then blacklist [22:57] google how to black list :) [22:57] you're blacklisting modules [22:58] maybe check mobo manufacture for bios update [22:58] /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist from memory [22:58] newest bios for it. that was the first thing I did [22:58] also, the drives seem to be junky...it is not too happy with ata1 or sda [22:59] i think those things certainly aren't right, but aren't causing those kernel problems. [22:59] 1hd is normal? ide others are sata [23:02] goods on new bios :) [23:02] is this correct for blacklist.conf blacklist b43 to blacklist it? [23:03] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [23:03] i don't know, you'd have to read the documentation [23:03] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:03] can I get some help troubleshooting port forward for ssh [23:04] cryptic0: i dont know, can you? [23:04] reading it I think that is right. There are 2 b43's loading up or at least that is how I am understanding it [23:04] spook: I think so :) [23:04] lostmonkey, yes, that is how you blacklist it [23:04] I'm going to reboot and check the bios settings.. Thank you all for the help! [23:04] spook: I want to forward ssh connectiosn from outside my LAN to a certain box on port 6900 [23:04] :) [23:04] bye and thank you [23:05] the C1E / turbocore should be the main culprits [23:05] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:05] going into some wait states the kernel dont know about :) [23:05] so I set the ssh_config and sshd_config to listen to port 6900, then set up the router to forward 6900 to 6900 on that box. Still I get unresolvable address error [23:07] cryptic0: -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 6900 -j ACCEPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -i externalinterface -p tcp --dport 6900 -j DNAT --to-destination internaladdress [23:07] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.140.179) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:08] sounds odd o_O [23:08] spook: so I have to do this separately on the host? I thought sshd was already running on the host and it will listen to whatever port I asked it to in sshd_config [23:08] cryptic0: you want to forward external connections through a NAT setup to a machine behind the NAT, correct? [23:09] lostmonkey (47bf3f0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.191.63.12) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:09] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:09] sound slike he's using a standard "home" router and forwarding to his slackware machine behind it [23:09] spook: yes, but I want to have the router software take care of the forwarding. [23:09] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:09] linux_probe: exactly. [23:09] linux_probe: spook: I have a linksys wrt54gl running dd-wrt [23:10] ahh [23:10] and the slackware serer box sits behind it. [23:10] oh then easy [23:10] cryptic0: -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -i externalinterface -p tcp --dport 6900 -j DNAT --to-destination internaladdress:22 on the dd-wrt box, then set sshd back to the default port. [23:11] those are iptables command fyi. iptables -A ... [23:11] spook: yes, but can I run iptables commands on a router? [23:11] ( you can do the same in the dd-wrt web page) [23:12] cryptic0: if its dd-wrt its running a linux kernel with netfilter, so most likely yes [23:12] what version dd-wrt [23:12] so basically you're telling the router to send all requests received on port 6900 to port 22 on the slackware box [23:12] yes [23:12] linux_probe: v24sp1 [23:13] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:13] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [23:13] spook: so there is a way to do that through a dd-wrt web interface page. Unfortunately, I can't make it work. [23:13] in order, its telling netfilter, allow forwarded connections on port 22. forward connections on port 6900 to internal address port 22 [23:13] no? [23:13] they call it port forward under NAT/QOS tab [23:13] hmm im using v24-sp2 myself [23:13] but yes [23:14] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [23:14] linux_probe: for my router sp1 is the latest stable release. [23:14] ahh [23:14] do I need to do anything on the host? [23:14] port forwarding tab should ask, port from and port to as well as ip address [23:14] when I tried to edit the ssh_Config and sshd_config I noticed that all lines were commented [23:14] cryptic0: no, since you're doing PAT [23:15] cryptic0: because they edit the defaults [23:15] linux_probe: will port from be 6900 and port to be 22? [23:15] cryptic0: yes [23:15] yes [23:15] spook: so no need to do any changes on the host? [23:15] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:15] and the correct ip address :) [23:15] cryptic0: no need [23:15] ok, let me try again [23:15] you'll need to change ther host back to port 22 ( or defaults) [23:16] if you changed it to port 6900 before [23:16] lotec (lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:18] yes, just did that. now let me set up router again [23:18] now when I try to connect should I do this? ssh user@router:6900 [23:19] well if your trying loopback [23:19] the name maynot work [23:19] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:19] probably the mains reason of unresolvable address error [23:19] yeah I mean router ip [23:19] :) [23:20] i dont recall if dd-wrt allows loopback by default [23:20] i only use mine as a wifi bridge [23:20] linux_probe: u want to volunteer? [23:20] if what its doing behind the scenes is the same as my iptables commands, internally connecting to port 6900 won't work. [23:20] exactly my thought :) [23:21] so I will have to be outside the network for this to work, right? [23:21] someone want to try this for me? at least see if you get a hit :D [23:21] try using a port scan website like grc.com [23:21] oh ok [23:21] use it to scan port 6900, see if it's open :) [23:22] there's probably others, but that one came to mind [23:22] umm shieldsup i think he calls it still [23:23] 6900 is open [23:23] then its probably working [23:23] ok, so I will have to login from outsie to make sure this works [23:23] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [23:23] spook: linux_probe thanks guys :) [23:24] NetrixTardis (~leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:24] actualy, i think dd-wrt has a setting for loopback [23:24] Action: linux_probe looks, i forget [23:24] ._. [23:25] i tend to not touch mine for around 365 days =p [23:25] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[23:37] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:38] NatureTM: the process of setting up gpt in slack is straightforward from my understand. [23:38] I think it requires kernel recompilation [23:38] yes, it does. [23:39] it requires making the disc incompatible with non-gpt enabled kernels too, from my understanding. [23:39] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:40] NatureTM: I feel that gpt not being a stock slackware kernel falls inline with slackware in general. It is something that if people need, they can set it up for themselves. [23:41] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:41] there's a lot of crap less common in huge than the need for gpt [23:42] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:42] You can email Pat and discuss it with him. [23:43] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [23:43] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:43] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] well I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining [23:43] I'm sure in the future gpt may become part of the stock slackware kernel, however for the moment, it isn't. And the process of compiling a kernel with it enabled is quite easy, so I'm not sure what your complaint it [23:43] In general, Slack is never quick to adopt new technologies. It was only relatively recently we moved to 2.6.x. GPT support will come eventually, but it isn't much of an issue right now. [23:44] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:44] yeah I know slack's not for bleeding edge. Really it's fine, it just surprised me. [23:45] believe me, I've used slack for a long time and I will jump through quite a few hoops before installing anything else on my home server [23:45] To me, Slackware is about stability first, functionality second. [23:45] Same here, I wasn't aware that gpt had such a tradeoff [23:47] really I'm not complaining, just giving an opinion and seeing what others had to say [23:48] LVM is supported as an alternative, and it would surprise me to hear that LVM is more stable than gpt [23:48] LVM is pretty widely supported [23:49] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [23:49] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:50] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [23:52] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:53] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. 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