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[00:09] Go to http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/ [00:09] and do a find for "seamonkey" [00:09] I assume you're using 32-bit...go to the correct repos if you're not using 13.0 32bit [00:12] yay redtricycle <4 [00:12] it works [00:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:19] Tip: don't upgrade to the beta for the sake of extentions [00:19] It's at least 50% slower [00:20] I pulled that number out of my ass...but still, it's slow [00:23] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [00:26] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:27] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [00:30] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:30] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [00:35] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[00:55] SigmaVirus24 (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-125-82-100.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:56] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.207) left irc: [00:57] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] SlashQuit (n=SlashQui@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "-" [01:01] Reticenti: greetings from reddit [01:01] mshade: herro [01:01] how are you [01:01] ah hangin in there. [01:02] thanks for reminding me, I should go on reddit. [01:02] has r/linux been loading ok for you ? seems every other time i refresh, the number of posts on front page shrinks [01:02] from 15 (low point) to like 40 [01:02] hmm [01:02] no [01:02] I usually hang out in new though [01:02] right now it's showing 59 posts. ( i have prefs set to 100) [01:02] I'm kinda mad that I missed the popup on reddit. [01:02] hah [01:03] talk about a lot of fallout [01:03] I have 50/50 posts on mine [01:04] emma_ (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [01:04] and yeah, I was asleep for the popup [01:04] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: "Leaving" [01:04] jg71 (n=edud@port-92-204-74-177.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [01:05] tons of hate in that slackware thread [01:05] interesting [01:05] yeah [01:05] TONS of hate [01:05] free_fx (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:05] it makes me sad [01:06] What are you guys talking about? [01:06] mshade: what slackware thread? [01:06] evilaz: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/avu0e/any_slackware_users_still_out_there/ [01:07] ack, need an account [01:07] =( [01:08] to vote, you do [01:08] all you have to give is a username and a pw [01:08] it's about the least intrusive signup process i've ever encountered, though [01:08] yeah [01:09] I'm not participating in that thread [01:09] threads like those always degenerate... [01:09] yeah [01:09] the yourfriendlane guy is terrible [01:09] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-173-172-40-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:10] indubitableness is pretty terrible in his own right, too [01:10] yeah [01:11] do you use slack mshade ? [01:11] i do [01:11] slack and arch [01:11] col [01:11] cooll [01:11] ack [01:12] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) left irc: "leaving" [01:12] syn [01:13] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [01:14] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:14] i've apparently had a slack subscription since 9.0 [01:15] i moved right after i got the subscription though [01:15] so i've been paying for it without receiving the disks for.. 6 years? [01:16] lol [01:16] so some person keeps on getting slack sent to them. [01:16] yeah my old address from college probably lol [01:16] hm [01:17] looking for a timeline of slack releases [01:17] im looking at a mirror but the timestamps are all over the place [01:17] i asw one the other day... [01:17] saw* [01:17] http://www.nielshorn.net/slackware/slack_versions.php [01:17] mshade: wikipedia. [01:17] grazi [01:18] Ah! [01:18] nearly 7 years [01:18] :p [01:18] ah, there it is [01:18] my first one was 9.1 [01:18] Nick change: emma_ -> emma [01:18] I had internet that came in through usb though, and linux didnt like that at the time, so I gave up [01:18] Reticenti, dont think anyone likes that [01:18] ;D [01:19] :P [01:19] yeah [01:19] had to ts ubuntu at work today that was fun ... [01:19] ts ? [01:19] troubleshoot [01:19] ah [01:20] i'm so sorry [01:20] :P [01:20] i have a friend running linux for the first time on ubuntu - keeps coming to me for help [01:20] at least he's trying [01:20] i will have him migrate asap [01:21] he's doing pretty well actually [01:21] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:21] got him on openbox + tint2 now [01:21] WOW THIS MACHINE IS FAST!? [01:21] nobody thinks Gnome is slow 'til they run something else :-D [01:21] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:21] or rather, don't notice how slow it is [01:21] steals915 (n=steals@74.195.119.127) joined ##slackware. [01:21] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-156-251.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] I like my xfce [01:22] ph|ber (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:22] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:22] i dig xfce as well [01:22] Axius (n=fd@92.82.91.36) joined ##slackware. [01:22] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:24] that whole thread is dumb. Reticenti you're pretty much bang on about what gets annoying around here [01:24] Action: eviljames was afk. [01:24] hello [01:25] thanks :) [01:25] hi mirmillo [01:25] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] Reticenti: How are you? [01:26] ohj pretty good, just looking through interfacelift to find a new wallpaper [01:26] i like chromium's --app function with grooveshark. this is cool. [01:28] is w|gglit around anymore? [01:29] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:29] Um. When something (repackages binary) seg faults, any way to see *why*? [01:30] I'd really like to get the Skype 2.1 beta to work on slack [01:30] mshade: he occasionally pops in from time to time. [01:30] redtricycle: you can try an strace [01:31] BP{k}: cool. haven't talked to him in a while [01:31] what is the difference between the menu and expert installs? [01:32] I just go with "full" all the time [01:32] menu lets you choose packages via a menu, expert lets you choose every single pacakge [01:32] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [01:32] (iirc) [01:33] I remember my first install I did expert. I sat there for like 2 hours reading every package [01:33] I have doen menu and expert installs. [01:33] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:33] these days I am lazy and go for full. [01:33] yeah, same [01:33] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [01:33] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Trying to make a slackbuild from a deb... [01:33] slackware doesn't come with dpkg by default -- how do people unpack .debs? [01:34] redtricycle: ar -x [01:34] hey guys! 8oD [01:34] sup BP{k} [01:34] Ah, thanks [01:34] lw0x15: heyo [01:34] phrag: damn you're still awake? ;) [01:34] ofc... and you! [01:34] nah, I am sleep typing. ;) [01:35] late night or early morning? [01:35] er....i noticed that during my "expert" install that a lot of libraries came up, i know some of them were neccessary for some of the programs i installed, however i am worried that i am missing some as i dont understand why i was prompted the library files that were required by the aplliations i had selected to install. [01:35] Action: Dominian is still awake... [01:35] ircd migration duh [01:35] Dominian: ! long time dude =) [01:35] aye! [01:35] Axius (n=fd@92.82.91.36) left irc: "leaving" [01:35] Bazzled: that's why it's called expert [01:35] Bazzled: that's why I told you a couple of days ago, to install everything. [01:35] Bazzled: slackware assumes you know what you're doing [01:36] ech (n=me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: "z" [01:36] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:36] CcSsNET (n=user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:36] i've been off irc for ages, just heard about the recent attacks on freenode... hows the channel held up? [01:36] Just fine with +R [01:36] we almost lost the channel.. [01:36] but those attacks will negate soon [01:36] and cmode +C will be available [01:36] they were packeting the server, got into a split server, got oped, when the server came back, they were oped and tried to mdop... [01:36] Dominian: you wanted to be staff damn it, now *stay* awake. ;) [01:36] so that chanel wide CTCP's can't occur again [01:36] oh wait, this isn't 1999 efnet [01:36] chopp: :P [01:36] workin' on it [01:36] jeev: we almost lost the channel, but many bothains died to bring us the intel to save it [01:37] birdlives (n=birdlive@96.240.50.121) joined ##slackware. [01:37] bothans* [01:37] lol [01:38] hmm... well i'll be kicking about [01:38] woot [01:38] Action: Dominian is the first user in ##slackware on the newnet :P [01:38] i'm so ticked off, the freebsd guest on my slackware kvm instance is not performing up to par [01:38] Dominian, want me to message you a list of people to ban ? [01:38] to keep in sync with this channel? [01:38] haha [01:38] nah [01:38] it'll all migrate [01:38] unfortunate [01:38] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@67.203.138.194) joined ##slackware. [01:39] some of the bans here are hidden and i'm afraid they will not migrate succesfully [01:39] what newnet? [01:39] here is one you should place asap, +b thumbs!*@* [01:39] phrag, new ircd [01:39] phrag: we are migrating from hyperion to ircd-seven at 0730UTC [01:39] phrag: 50 minutes till the big swap. [01:39] oh [01:39] it's today eh crazy [01:39] wow, i picked a good time to return after months =P [01:40] phrag: hehe that's relative to the sitation I guess [01:40] what are the odds! [01:40] phrag, you must've got on without notice, all future users are forced to submit paypal payment to me (the CFO) [01:40] before migration, or you will forever be filtered [01:40] phrag: you need to start hangin again. [01:40] how exciting! [01:41] oh i will be, something has been missing in my life, but i can't place it.. it maybe IRC! =P [01:41] well sure. :P [01:41] good to see the old crowd still here, familiar faces =) [01:42] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [01:42] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag [01:42] and that god awful logo you won't change on fah :P [01:42] bastard [01:42] fah? [01:42] folding at home [01:43] i run WCG mainly [01:44] wait, did i set the logo? heh [01:44] lol [01:45] Chameleon (i=Chameleo@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [01:46] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:49] rather OT, but how much credence do you guys give to the reasoning behind the attacks? just freenode haters or element of truth? [01:50] idiots [01:50] plain and simple [01:50] its all anchored by one organization that has pretty much said they "did it" [01:50] who [01:50] no doubt about that one. [01:50] did cheney come out and say it was al qaeda ? [01:52] was it 4chan? [01:52] no [01:52] GNAA [01:52] jeev: i'm not propagting their message, but if you reallya re interested easy to find out more [01:53] Yeah just google that above.. [01:53] Dominian: just trolls then? [01:53] I read their site.. I read wiki's on them.. [01:53] lol GNAA [01:53] none of their philosophy's make sense... their site is full of just.. ranting about random things.. .. its hard to follow [01:53] yeh, just read some of that [01:53] i am having to make a grub entry do you think the folllowing will boot? [01:53] kernel /boot/vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 vga=0x345 ro [01:54] you've gotta admit GNAA is a funny acronym [01:54] why are you using grub? [01:54] I use grub [01:54] Dominian: probably spawned from some dude who got klined 5 years ago =P [01:54] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:54] used to it [01:55] oh who knows [01:55] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [01:55] well time to boot in virtal machine [01:55] tanamo__ (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [01:56] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-156-251.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:56] heya,folks [01:56] hey MLanden [01:56] heya,Reticenti [01:57] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.208.216) joined ##slackware. [01:58] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:00] is there a graphical browser leaner than firefox yet still functional enough to support java/flash? [02:01] hrm does dillo support java/flash? [02:01] um, opera [02:01] hrm nope [02:01] Dominian: never looked at dillo [02:01] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:01] nyRednek: midora [02:01] buts it closed source [02:01] midora is awesome [02:01] time to reboot, strange vmware issue [02:01] Reticenti: is there a slackbuild for it? [02:02] Bazzled (n=baz@c-71-197-234-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:02] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: "Changing server" [02:02] nyRednek: yup, it does require webkit (which is on sbo) and that can take a while to build [02:02] not midora, midori [02:02] ah yeah, midori nyRednek [02:02] heya,fire|bird [02:03] i don't care if it's open or closed source [02:03] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [02:03] i just don't like the memory leaks from multiple tabs of firefox [02:03] phrag (n=phrag@217.10.145.3) joined ##slackware. [02:03] it runs me quickly out of memory and processor on this old box [02:04] anybody know how to get access to a camera smart card - dmesg shows "tifm_core: SmartMedia/xD card detected in socket 0:0" [02:04] nyRednek: google chrome is also pretty nice (and fast) but it does use more memory because of it's sandboxing of tabs [02:04] chrome is nice... and supports multithreading of tabs [02:04] heya MLanden [02:04] which for multicore systems is sweet [02:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] Action: Reticenti cries [02:04] I'm ona single core [02:04] chrome is out of the question...old box == low memory [02:05] ah [02:05] hey phrag, how's it going? I was just messing with chrome right now, adding some extensions. [02:05] MLanden: how are you? [02:05] chrome uses gconf .. blegh ;) [02:05] fire|bird: hi =) [02:05] then midori is perfect, I ran it perfectly on 256mb nyRednek [02:05] it was so fast [02:05] and it handles flash incredibly well [02:05] i'm trying to get iron working (chromium with google tracking stripped) [02:05] doin' fine thanks,fire|bird....been messin' with dreamchess..yourself? [02:06] Reticenti: any modifications needed to get the plugins working properly? [02:06] it's being as bitch with libs tho, perhaps need multilib [02:06] nyRednek: I don't think so [02:06] MLanden: not much, just messing with chrome atm. [02:07] fire|bird, cool....got chrome on my todo list..:D [02:07] fire|bird: i do not like the process called 'exe' it spawns tho [02:07] i agree phrag [02:07] i killed 'exe' and my extensions crashed, but chrome stayed running [02:07] eek, reminds me of windows :P [02:07] yeh, very weird... i dont like [02:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [02:08] speakin' of leaner browsers,what 'bout aurora? with it usin' qt,is it top heavier than say midori? [02:09] MLanden: in my experience, aurora seemed more crash prone than midori [02:09] i dont know, but when I was reading about browsers, midori seemed more stable [02:09] i gotta wait for dosbox to finish [02:09] nyRednek: webkit on my 2ghz amd proc took about 2 hours to compile [02:09] just a warning [02:10] may have been longer [02:11] Reticenti: yeah that's why I keep a copy of most stuff I compile for sbo arund in my /tmp/ :) [02:11] yeah [02:11] i had to wipe my drive about a month and a half ago though [02:12] so i lsot all my compiled shiz [02:12] then I recently wiped /tmp because I needed the space to download the next generation complete series [02:12] it sucks having 280 of total hdd space [02:12] tanamo_ (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:14] ugh I'll bet [02:14] 280gb * [02:15] ok, compiling midori, through dependency chain [02:16] i hope it's better than firefox on memory/processor consumption [02:16] nyRednek, everything is better than firefox on mem/proc footprint [02:16] mel-nix (i=1000@117.255.77.88) joined ##slackware. [02:16] hiptobecubic: don't get me wrong...firefox is nice [02:17] but not on this system [02:17] nyRednek, i love it [02:17] nyRednek: I was running flash in midori on a 6 year old amd with 256mb and it ran fine [02:17] ok - well it looks like there may be an issue on my laptop with the sd card [02:17] Reticenti: this machine has half that [02:17] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC315DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:17] heh [02:18] i'm trying to look up mathematical formulae and it isn't particularly easy on firefox + this machine [02:18] ah [02:18] Can someone explain to me what 'virt' and 'res' memory usage means? Firefox has 753M and 180M for them and i don't know what that's about. [02:18] do you need image capabilites? [02:18] Reticenti: yeah [02:18] ah [02:18] Reticenti: otherwise i'd just use links [02:18] wget the jpg and xv it? :P [02:19] Reticenti: yeah, then if you happen to xv them in the wrong order... [02:19] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:19] Reticenti: let's just say it isn't good for learning a mathematical system [02:19] xv 1.jpg && xv 1.jpg && xv 3.jpg && etc haha [02:19] tanamo__ (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:19] replace second 1 with 2 [02:20] Reticenti: this site isn't showing the formulae numbered [02:20] yeah [02:20] thats too bad [02:20] Reticenti: the formulae brach depending on results [02:20] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC315DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [02:21] Aelius (i=4576a248@gateway/web/freenode/x-zlbgaeyjynqxkvrx) joined ##slackware. [02:21] hey, I'm trying to mount an image on slax [02:21] but it says I have no free loops [02:21] i'll print it as soon as i can pull it all up without a web browser pushing cups out of memory [02:22] I cant seem to be able to kill a loop, or load the loop module (modprobe loop = fatal; module not found) [02:22] slax != slackware [02:22] Aelius: sudo mount -o loop something.iso /mnt/disk this doesnt work? [02:22] no sudo [02:22] Google will begin paying bounties as high as $1,337 to researchers who privately report high-severity security bugs in its Chrome browser and Chromium open-source project. [02:22] in slax [02:22] hehe [02:23] su - then [02:23] I am the root, but ok [02:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:23] mac- (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:23] hello [02:24] o/ [02:24] do we have in SLackware any package with hibernation scripts ? [02:24] Aelius, live session,right? are you mounting the image to memory? [02:24] t-minus 5mins folks [02:24] well 6 [02:24] mac-: whats a hibernation script? [02:25] MLanden: yes, live session. as for where I"m mounting it, .... not sure. in the /mnt folder [02:25] Aelius, how much memory do you have left? [02:25] how would I tell? I have 3gb ram total [02:25] and I have done nothing but run fdisk [02:26] Action: hiptobecubic puts on his helmet and flight goggles [02:26] Aelius: cat /proc/meminfo [02:26] that should tell you how much ram you have left [02:26] 1.05GB free [02:26] mac-: hibernate support is in slackware, but you must set the resume partition(your swap partition, usually) in your /etc/lilo.conf [02:27] and to hibernate, as root, you 'echo disk /sys/power/state' [02:27] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [02:27] Aelius, how large is the image your trying to mount? [02:28] 982mb [02:28] close call there [02:29] hang on everyone [02:29] about to get noisy [02:29] i got the wallop : [02:30] MLanden: any ideas? [02:31] Aelius, no [02:31] ALL BE READY FOR DOMINIAN TO BREAK STUFF? [02:31] haha [02:31] lol [02:31] not me :) [02:32] snr33 (n=snr33@190.233.197.56) joined ##slackware. [02:33] kevin01123 (n=kevin@71-81-65-35.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:34] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [02:35] Nick change: Dominian -> Dominoman [02:35] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC315DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:36] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [02:36] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [02:36] smack 'em down,Dominoman....watch 'em topple...:D [02:37] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [02:37] Dominian: good luck - I'm going to bed so I'll have _some_ energy at 7 in the morning to take the 3 boys sleeping in the next room to disneyland [02:37] hehe [02:37] night [02:37] :) [02:37] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@67.203.138.194) left irc: "Leaving" [02:37] kevin01123 (n=kevin@71-81-65-35.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:37] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [02:38] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-250.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:40] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [02:40] Nick change: Dominoman -> Dominian [02:40] Nick change: Dominian -> BOFH [02:41] this suits the migration better :P [02:41] no ssl connect for me yet [02:42] not yet [02:42] chopp: hasn't happened yet. [02:42] ssl didnt work on test server [02:42] phrag: It did here. [02:43] BOFH: flip that switch man, what are you waiting for. :P [02:43] its working on the nw net [02:43] chopp: some services bots have to be moved first.. [02:43] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-250.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:43] BOFH: I'm just bugging you. [02:44] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-250.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:44] what switch? [02:44] could you enlighted me please as to any plans with the channel [02:44] phrag: from hyperion to ircd-seven [02:44] phrag: right now freenode is switching to the new ircd. [02:44] yes i am aware [02:44] the channel will be fine [02:45] as i thought [02:45] although not sure if wigglit tested slackboy there :( [02:45] +q is its own ban mode now [02:45] and I believe slackboy still uses +b % [02:46] phrag: you'll have to be slackboy tonight. :) [02:46] chopp: how abotu i bring nix0r back ? [02:46] why sure [02:46] >< [02:47] I have nix4me [02:47] slackboy needs a break anyway [02:48] fire|bird, new ircd? [02:48] MLanden: yes, ircd-seven, they are in the process of switching as we speak. [02:48] might be time for a periodic banlist purge [02:48] i'm not sure when the last one was [02:49] too late [02:49] the ban lists and modes were just migrated :P [02:49] oh i just meant soon, not right this sec [02:49] so, if someone bans me, it doesnt count? [02:49] usually do it every year or so [02:49] Reticenti: yeh, hang about a year and it may clear =P [02:50] fire|bird, ok [02:50] heh [02:51] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-49-250.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:51] geez, it's 8am and i'm wide awake.. i have a job interview monday, better fix my sleep befoer then! [02:52] phrag: good luck with the interview. :) [02:52] thanks =) [02:53] john_dee (n=id@95-29-146-210.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [02:55] fire|bird: i think i recognise your nick from years ago... same guy? [02:56] phrag: Probably not, I've been on freenode for a few years, but only around on ##slackware since November 2008. [02:57] hmm, might be from then... perhaps not, my memory is poor =P [02:57] my seems to be too. :P [02:58] It seems I am able to remember things that happened much longer ago than I can more recent stuff. :/ [02:58] what will you young lads do when you're ancient like me? :P [02:58] same... [02:58] lol [02:58] i wonder if the cause is the same =P [02:58] chopp: become artifacts in a museum? [02:58] Action: fire|bird ducks [02:59] hahaha, why you little... [02:59] :P [02:59] chopp: i'm relying on someone developing the genetic equivalent of plug-in RAM modules [03:00] phrag: yeah damn it, I'm waiting on that one myself. [03:00] or at least sync my brain with google o.0 [03:00] google mind ? :) [03:00] ohgodno [03:00] that was said tounge in cheek >< [03:00] phrag: maybe apple will come out with an iMind :P [03:01] maybe before 2girls1cup and the like. :P [03:01] DRM tho... no thought sharing! 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[03:40] lol [03:40] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] that is when I logged back into freenode [03:40] evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] NetrixTardis (~leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Guest62166 (~pragma@blackshell.com) left irc: Changing host [03:41] Guest62166 (~pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Nick change: Guest62166 -> pragma_ [03:43] bjqrn (bjqrn@c-6e0fe255.023-21-7673743.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [03:43] zarock (zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:43] emma_ (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [03:44] CaptObviousman (~The_Capta@unaffiliated/captobviousman) joined ##slackware. [03:45] man what's going on with freenode [03:45] CaptObviousman: switching to the new ircd. [03:45] ohright [03:46] :P [03:46] Tabstar (~terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:46] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [03:47] SlackNews (slacknews@apple.chaosorigin.com) joined ##slackware. [03:49] t_ (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [03:49] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [03:50] dermoth (~dermoth@205.151.111.9) joined ##slackware. [03:51] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:51] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [03:51] slackd00d (~slackd00d@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [03:52] sahk0 (~grbzks@ppp089210069148.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:52] sahk0 (~grbzks@ppp089210069148.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [03:52] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:53] Nick change: Guest4903 -> mario_ [03:53] mrselfpwn (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-sqlkbyrmiksbzqoc) joined ##slackware. [03:54] jgor (~jgor@loki.indiecom.org) joined ##slackware. [03:54] [Bain] (~bain@S010600179a9ed473.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-237-37.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] tewmten (tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [03:55] <[Bain]> does anyone have experience generating private and public rsa keys I am having trouble getting the syntax right for a script i am writing [03:55] Shuren (~Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:55] <[Bain]> in my bash script i have [03:55] <[Bain]> key_holder=`openssl genrsa -aes256 -passout pass:$secret2 2048` [03:56] <[Bain]> key_holder contains the private key [03:56] <[Bain]> but i need to now generate a public key but cant figure out how [03:56] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [03:56] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E5FB7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] [Bain]: Now may not be the best time to ask, freenode switched ircd systems and is in the process of moving people over, so you may not get an answer/people may not see your question atm. [03:57] konus (~konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) joined ##slackware. [03:58] <[Bain]> :/ [03:58] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0CC27.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0CC27.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:59] [Bain] (bain@S010600179a9ed473.wp.shawcable.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [03:59] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) got netsplit. [04:02] brb [04:02] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) returned to ##slackware. [04:02] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:03] Chameleon (Chameleon@99.244.180.240) joined ##slackware. [04:04] Nick change: t_ -> t [04:05] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.208.216) joined ##slackware. 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[04:16] MLanden (~mello@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:17] seem's to be going ok, but might want to ask Dominian on that one. [04:17] MLanden (~mello@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:18] What about Dominian? [04:18] he is freenode staff, and can better answer the migration process. [04:19] functionoverform (~IceChat7@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] but I'm thinkin he's fairly busy. [04:19] freenode ssl ftw [04:20] zoran119 (~zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[04:29] irssi/ssl workin just wonderful [04:30] snr33 (~snr33@190.233.197.56) left irc: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew. [04:30] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-168-34.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:32] cool....don't think there should be any problems with any of the other clients [04:33] looked like a pretty smooth damn transition to me. Good work Dominian. :) [04:33] eh.. [04:33] :) [04:34] congrats,Dominian and the rest of the freenode staff [04:34] I'm guessing you're still busy though. [04:34] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:34] chopp: god yes.. [04:34] PMs won't stop [04:34] :) [04:34] arrrgh [04:34] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [04:35] functionoverform (~IceChat7@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Take my advice. I don't use it anyway [04:36] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.48) joined ##slackware. [04:36] I remember about maybe six years ago, you brought up wanting to be staff, and it might even have been phrag, said "are you freakin crazy?!" :) [04:38] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-180.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:38] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:39] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:42] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-246-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:43] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) joined ##slackware. [04:44] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [04:50] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) got netsplit. [04:50] tmkd (user-448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) got netsplit. [04:50] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.30.6) got netsplit. [04:50] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) got netsplit. [04:50] mag0o (20001@74.255.51.210) got netsplit. 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[05:37] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:37] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:39] chopp, ? [05:39] yes? [05:40] something i might be able to help you with? (just seeing if I may be of assistance) [05:41] no, it's for alienBOB. Anything else I can usually figure out on my own. [05:41] roger that [05:42] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422746.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:46] D3lahunt (~robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:47] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) joined ##slackware. [05:50] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.48) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:50] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [05:53] as it did on testnet.freenode, ssl works awsome on ircd-seven [05:55] didier_ (~dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:24] (or at least, it should) [06:24] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.44) joined ##slackware. [06:25] i use XFACE [06:26] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.178.196.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:26] i have problem beacuse i choose GTK+ engine, and now i can not start a lot of xwindow applications [06:27] error like "Q*** can not be use with GTK_Qt engine" [06:27] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@62.1.242.140.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:27] gtk_qt engine isnt part of Slackware [06:28] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [06:28] hmm,so whyi see this error [06:28] :) [06:29] at my machine gtk_qt probably is installed [06:31] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:32] v4nelle (~van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:04] on 12.2 you have to compile it, on 13.0 it's a part of the kernel.. [07:05] great = [07:05] =] [07:05] spook (~spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:10] Agiofws-- (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:12] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422746.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:13] Agiofws- (~Agiofws@athedsl-422746.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:13] packeteer (~zed@203.36.227.227) joined ##slackware. [07:14] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [07:20] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC315DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Anyone running lxde on Slackware 13? [07:22] a few. [07:22] How do you install lxde on Slackware? [07:22] I looked at the repos and there is none there. [07:23] kleanchap: have you tried googling slackware + lxde [07:25] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:27] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:27] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-422170.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:37] crudo (~kayaman@189.70.106.9) joined ##slackware. [07:40] tsonev (~tsonev@78-83-58-22.spectrumnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:40] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:43] Steaki (~steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:45] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [07:46] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:47] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [07:48] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:49] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [07:49] guax (~guax@201-35-222-226.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:49] guax (~guax@201-35-222-226.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Changing host [07:49] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:50] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Client Quit [07:50] guax (~guax@201-35-222-226.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:50] guax (~guax@201-35-222-226.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Changing host [07:50] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:57] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [07:58] anyone know if sata dvd burners are well supported under linux these days? [07:59] mattallmill (~mattallmi@ip98-186-175-241.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] im assuming they are but cant find recent threads online [08:02] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [08:03] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:05] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:08] oobe: yes they are. [08:08] ok cause if i search hard enough i find ppl with problems but i guess that is always the case [08:09] you hardly ever see ppl post i installed xyz and i would just like to say i had no problems [08:10] oobe: Keyword... search "hard enough" most people only post things if they have problems because they are looking for answers. ;) [08:10] yea that was my little observation [08:11] lf4: well said [08:11] oobe: what burner do you have? [08:13] Reaver (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by [reaVer]!~reaver@unaffiliated/reaver)) [08:15] at the moment i have a lite on and its bugging out [08:15] any opera users here? [08:16] i cant burn anymore and its getting IO errors [08:16] so im guessing its just the drive but i updated my bios and suspected that could of been the issue [08:16] as my old mobo needed special setting before it worked [08:17] oobe: I know those problems, open the drive and put some non reflective tape on the plate above the laser [08:17] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:17] maybe that helps [08:17] i have never heard of that [08:18] it was a bit crap when it was new also [08:18] oobe: i have [08:18] what does that fix do [08:18] does the burner read fine? [08:19] oobe: it fixes a calibration of laser without screwing with the laser calibration potentiometers [08:19] hmm i would like to try that but sounds very finicky what keywords should i use to find a step by step guide [08:19] oobe: sec [08:20] i remember trying to fix a ps2 laser by tweaking the alignment. [08:20] http://www.hungryhacker.com/articles/haxedhardware/misc/dvd_player_repair.html [08:20] didnt work [08:21] spook: I've fixed nearly dozen of players burners, usually V-regulators go down. then you throw it away. [08:22] pupit: yeah that was most likely the problem with the ps2 [08:22] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:22] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.146.70.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: the poul......... :) [08:23] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] I have SL13 on eeepc and when I startup I am using "rc.inet1 start_wlan0", which works fine. A little while later, I loose the connect and when I execute ifconfig, I see eth0 and wlan0 with no IP addresses. [08:25] As soon as I bootup, the ifconfig only shows wlan0 with an IP address. [08:25] You're running -current? [08:25] yes. [08:26] That has the wifi driver for my eeepc. [08:26] There was a dhcpcd update which necessitated a new /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.new script. [08:27] That script has to be merged into /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [08:27] you dont have slackware 13 then. you have slackware-current :) [08:28] you also shouldnt run mixtures of versions, messy things like this happen :) [08:28] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-166-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:28] gm152, Where can I find the new rc.inet1 [08:29] OK, are you running 13.0 or -current? [08:29] -current [08:29] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [08:29] from -current then [08:30] Nick change: emma_ -> emma [08:30] n/network-scripts-13.0-noarch-3.txz seems to be the latest version :) [08:30] boxxxoq (~hugh@218.82.206.83) joined ##slackware. [08:31] metrofox: see changelog entry for Sun Jan 24 20:22:46 UTC 2010 [08:31] Do you have /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.new and if so, what is its timestamp? [08:31] pupit, so i just open it up and put some tape above the laser to stop vibration? [08:31] spook: I see, that's the latest version :) [08:31] guys, the latest network-scripts package was updated Sun Jan 24 20:22:46 UTC 2010 [08:32] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [08:32] oobe: on the plate, above the laser [08:33] i want to see pics im searching for a tutorial with pics :) [08:34] oobe: very good then, im not in a mood now for drawing :) [08:34] kleanchap: Read spook's rsponse, you need the updated network-scripts package. [08:34] lol i was not asking you too [08:34] the idea is enough thanks [08:34] np [08:35] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:36] pupit, http://an.hitchcock.org/repairfaq/sam/kss361a.gif [08:37] oobe: http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/striphandler.ashx?stripid=3749cc00-6c5b-4a66-9294-ce24426281fb [08:38] ok haha [08:38] :p [08:40] Reaver1 (Joachim@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [08:42] what is the kernel version for SL13 now? not -current [08:43] the same its always been. [08:44] that is.... [08:44] Linux slacker 2.6.29.6 #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 11:58:18 CDT 2009 [08:45] ardya (ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [08:45] adaptr, thnx. If I install SL13 and then do a "slackpkg update", will that get me the new kernel with the drivers. [08:45] ? [08:46] This is for my Eeepc. [08:46] don't know, have you tried the slackpkg readme ? [08:47] How do you do your updates? There are too many package managers...slapt-get, slackpkg and then sbopkg. Don't know which one to use. [08:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [08:47] there is one package manager [08:48] which one is that? slackpkg? [08:48] pkgtool [08:49] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:49] installpkg/removepkg/upgradepkg/etc [08:50] slackpkg and slapt-get are front ends that also offer online upgradeability [08:50] tsonev (~tsonev@78-83-58-22.spectrumnet.bg) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:52] tsonev (~tsonev@78-83-58-22.spectrumnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:52] I doubt slapt-get is a frontend to pkgtool [08:53] pprkut, I agree. slapt-get checks for dependencies. [08:54] gaz (~gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [08:55] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Quit: Smoke my bones [08:56] alienBOB (~alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:56] alienBOB (~alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) left irc: Changing host [08:56] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [08:56] (Quit: Smoke my bones) [08:56] cool [08:57] tsonev (~tsonev@78-83-58-22.spectrumnet.bg) left irc: Client Quit [08:58] boxxxoq (hugh@218.82.206.83) left ##slackware. [08:59] pupit, this looks more like what could work http://www.ehow.com/how_5838681_repair-optical-drive-dvd-cd_rom.html [08:59] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:03] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:06] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:07] tsonev (~tsonev@78-83-58-22.spectrumnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:09] pprkut: thanks, i change at ./kde/share/config/kdeglobals gtk+ to oxygne and kde, and other apps like kate started [09:10] pprkut: thanks a lot again [09:10] np [09:12] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.61.126) joined ##slackware. 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[10:59] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] ech (~me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Quit: k [10:59] if you are adventurous, you can look at the slackbuild to see what it is doing [10:59] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] most likely, its just putting one file in the mozilla plugin directory [11:00] yeah flashplayer.so or whatever it was. lemme go exploring... [11:00] ech (~me@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [11:00] militant: are you still having problems? [11:01] mfillpot: i'm still getting this modern slackware thing figured out, is all. did the slackbuild install of flashplayer and none of my browsers have flash still [11:01] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.86.235.151) joined ##slackware. [11:01] yea just move that file into the directory ~/.mozilla/plugins/ [11:01] ~ is your home directory [11:02] militant: did you actualy run installpkg or jsut ran the slackbuild [11:02] heh [11:02] Scuzz: there's nothing to install with installpkg on the flashplayer setup. no txz or anything. i'll sort it out, dropping the .so file or whatever where it needs to go [11:03] it would be in the tmp direcotry [11:03] it's not [11:03] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [11:03] militant: if you ran the slackbuild properly an installable package will be in /tmp [11:04] Nick change: mario -> Guest12402 [11:04] I agree, the end of the script is telling the process to output a txz files into the /tmp directory [11:04] Guest12402 (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Client Quit [11:04] militant: protip: sbopkg.org has a really cool frontend to SBo :P [11:04] hitest: i don't know how i could be doing it inappropriately. it's rather simple. it just spits out a libflashplayer.so which doesn't reside anywhere on the filesystem afterward [11:04] _mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [11:05] no [11:05] it creates .txz [11:05] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.86.235.151) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:05] it should also generate a package for /tmp [11:05] i'm afraid it's not creating a .txz either [11:05] militant: are you using 32 or 64-bit? [11:05] militant: negatory, it explodes the binary bundle from Adobe, and reassebles it as a slackware package [11:05] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.86.235.151) joined ##slackware. [11:05] 32bit [11:05] hi all, i wrote a shell script that checks the hard disks temperatures every n minutes, & if the temperature reach a threshold i run an action ( btw, i could be shutting down the server, but i would like if it's possible to just a sort of desactiving the related disk so that it does not work anymore ) [11:05] the 32 bit slackbuild script will generate a package [11:06] just look in /tmp and see if there is a package called flash-player-plugin [11:06] macavity: there isn't [11:06] militant: get sbopkg and let it do it for you, you can learn from it's actions [11:06] you did download the "source" and place in the same diretory as the slackbuild, right? [11:06] yes [11:07] i learned that lesson yesterday [11:07] Action: macavity scratches head [11:07] sh0ne (~sh0ne@93.86.235.151) left irc: Client Quit [11:07] run the slackbuild one more time [11:07] Scuzz: i just did. [11:07] no errors? [11:07] nope [11:07] and what did it say at the end [11:07] no output at all? [11:07] so much work for this binary blob, just mv it [11:07] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:07] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Changing host [11:07] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) joined ##slackware. [11:07] it just says [11:07] militant: are you running the slackbuild as root? [11:08] yes [11:08] root@hobo:~/installs/flash-player-plugin# ./flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild [11:08] libflashplayer.so [11:08] and exits [11:08] O.O [11:08] ok, then something is borken for sure [11:08] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [11:08] fetch sbopkg and let it handle it [11:09] macavity: i shall, but i'd like to know *what* is going wrong, if i can [11:09] whether it's me, or something else [11:09] this is not ubuntu, you can get your hands dirty :) [11:09] are your running a full install of sackware? [11:09] tank-man: that's why i got off ubuntu. i missed slack from the old days :) [11:09] militant: if sbopkg does it right, then it was you :P [11:09] slackware [11:09] hitest: full [11:09] hitest: sackware?!? :P [11:09] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:09] ops [11:09] slackware [11:09] lulz [11:09] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:09] hehe [11:10] one of the better :P [11:10] yeah [11:10] and when it really acts up it becomes smackware [11:10] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.44) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [11:10] LOL [11:10] Action: hitest is killing himself laughing [11:11] i'm loving being back in a brutal environment. i don't mind reading, googling, experimenting, and so on [11:11] militant: less flash-player-pluging.SlackBuild [11:11] see what it does [11:11] militant: welcome home to slackware:) [11:12] can I install SL13 and not -current version and still upgrade the kernel to 2.6.32? [11:13] kleanchap, i give you permission, yes you can [11:13] btw, if any of you happen to have a board/machine listed as supported by Coreboot, feel free to jump in [11:13] v4.0alpha1 was just tagged.. and we have menuconfig now :-) [11:13] ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) left irc: shutting down [11:14] i loved how the install hasn't changed since like 2000 (or longer) [11:14] tank-man, I want to make sure other items will not break. [11:14] hehehe [11:14] kleanchap: that should work 100% [11:14] militant: yep:) same good old slackware [11:14] kleanchap: BEWARE that if your current harddisk is called hdX, then you get a little surprise when you reboot :P [11:15] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:15] kleanchap, most likely will depend on the .config you use to compile your kernel [11:15] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] kleanchap: in .32 all drives are called sdX [11:15] Can I update using the slackpkg or something like that? [11:16] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:16] kleanchap: are your drives listed as hda* right now ? [11:16] or sda* [11:16] you mean, setting your mirror to point to -current, then upgrade kernel and modules, then set the mirror back? [11:16] sure.. just dont screw it up :P [11:16] .32 has the network drivers for my eeepc. [11:17] but it would be easier to just grap the two/three packages you need and upgradepkg them [11:17] but the -current has a new dhcpd and that network scripts are really screwing up the connection. [11:17] checking out sbopkg now [11:17] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] i like the idea of doing things manually but having scripts/autos available when i can't get something right and need it done quick [11:19] hoobop (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:19] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [11:19] does anyone know if it is possible to get syntax highlighting in less? [11:20] i would *SO* love to have the highlighting from joe available in less for .c and .h files [11:20] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:21] macavity, can joe use most? That has some kind of colouring at least [11:21] crap, what happened to slackboy? [11:21] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:22] (##slackware) Channel ban on $r:c-68-83-176-238.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/68.83.176.238 expired. [11:22] (##slackware) Channel ban on $r:cpe-76-178-232-46.maine.res.rr.com expired. 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[11:22] ##slackware: mode change '-bbbb $r:c-68-83-176-238.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/68.83.176.238 $r:cpe-76-178-232-46.maine.res.rr.com $r:*Elite*Warez* $r:catv-80-98-178-84.catv.broadband.hu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:22] ##slackware: mode change '-bbbb $r:c-71-232-78-36.hsd1.ma.comcast.net $r:cpc2-cwma4-0-0-cust550.swan.cable.ntl.com $r:cpe-24-93-138-183.maine.res.rr.com $r:catv-80-98-178-84.catv.broadband.hu/80.98.178.84' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:22] ##slackware: mode change '-bb $r:blk-138-5-142.eastlink.ca/24.138.5.142 $r:cpe-74-69-204-27.maine.res.rr.com/74.69.204.27' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:22] still some migration goingon [11:22] services restarted? [11:22] yes [11:22] dive: ah, lesspipe seems to be able to [11:22] chanserv services [11:22] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:22] well, that installed flash no problem. i don't get what i was doing wrong, but whatever :) [11:23] it doesn't work in chrome, the controls don't respond to clicks, but ... hrm [11:23] wiat yes they do, but not when the page is zoomed [11:23] militant: did you install it manually or with sbopkg? [11:24] whut, no lesspipe?!? [11:24] sbopkg. it does work fine now to play flash vids from multiple sites (been wanting to see a gubernatorial debate from last night) ... but the controls don't work when the page isn't normal zoom [11:25] interesting [11:25] and there's no audio, despite audio working fine in everythin gelse [11:25] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-99-93.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [11:25] un-mute your audio channels? [11:25] hi [11:25] gaz (~gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:26] ah [11:26] lame me.. [11:26] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [11:26] NaCl (~NaCl@wireless-216.235.234.53.kinex.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:26] Nick change: NaCl -> Guest10333 [11:27] Guest10333 (~NaCl@wireless-216.235.234.53.kinex.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:27] i wanted to compile the nvidia kernel-module but make says the kernel headers and sources cant befound, i have the official headers installed und build my kernel and modules in /usr/src, can u help me to find out why nvidia or any other program cant find my sources? [11:27] _NaCl_ (~NaCl@wireless-216.235.234.53.kinex.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] _NaCl_ (~NaCl@wireless-216.235.234.53.kinex.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:28] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:28] ok audio works. levels are still way low even though i have alsamixer put everything all the way up. and it doesn't respond to my volume control wheel on the laptop here (but that's a separate issue that i don't really care about for now [11:28] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:28] mattallmill (~mattallmi@ip98-186-175-241.ks.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:28] overall this is fun :D [11:29] :) [11:29] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] i'm gonna wipe out the partition and redo the install in a lil bit [11:29] now that i learned some things and so on [11:30] anyone of u ahs experience with the linuxwacom drivers under slackwaer 13.0 they dont work for me [11:30] The_ManU_212: did you search using google? [11:30] spook: hours [11:31] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.7) joined ##slackware. [11:31] add the search terms "forum solved" :) [11:31] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [11:33] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm done for now [11:35] tank-man: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/836683/en tahts the error [11:36] The_ManU_212: this isnt a windows support channel. [11:36] lol [11:37] spook: lol wrong channel sry [11:38] militant: is something else broken that you need to do a clean install? or are you just having fun practicing with the installation program? [11:38] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:40] hitest: i did my enlightenment install manually and some other things, it just made stuff messy and complicated for future usage [11:41] *fuck* [11:41] militant: I understand:) have fun with the re-install [11:41] macavity:? [11:41] i usually take an install or two over the first few days to figure out things i'm doing the dumb way etc, before i settle in on a decent setup [11:41] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:42] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:42] dngr (~dngr@119.237.153.153) joined ##slackware. [11:43] emma (~em@cpe-72-225-241-65.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:43] emma (~em@cpe-72-225-241-65.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Changing host [11:43] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [11:44] pupit (~p@109.93.233.219) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Nick change: crudo -> crudo|away [11:46] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:46] crudo|away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [11:46] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:47] Action: spook hugs slackboy [11:47] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [11:47] bbl [11:48] hitest: apparently i need to forth-port suntax hilighting [11:48] ah [11:48] bbiab [11:48] kk [11:48] :) [11:50] pupit (~p@109.93.233.219) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] How can I download only the kernel and the modules for .32 from Slackware-current? [11:51] What are the files that I need to download from the repo? [11:51] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:51] ahh.. the lesspipe.sh that comes with slackware is written by Pat V [11:51] pupit (~p@109.93.233.219) joined ##slackware. [11:51] no wonder it doesnt work with the external tools i just installed :P [11:52] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [11:52] Deiz (~swh@unaffiliated/deiz) joined ##slackware. [11:52] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] generic tool names ftw :) [11:53] i am about to pester him with this [11:53] i can see why he did this.. back in 2000 the distributed lesspipe.sh was slow [11:53] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:54] but with the speed of todays machines, i dont think you can justify lack of functionality to facilitate pentium 75MHz users [11:55] Nick change: _mario -> mario [11:55] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:59] pupit (~p@109.93.233.219) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:00] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:00] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:00] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[12:06] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:06] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@96.24.140.252) joined ##slackware. [12:07] It looks like eastytag development is dead [12:09] that's unfortunate, it was quite a useful tool. too bad its interface was aweful [12:10] eeeGuitarman (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. [12:10] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [12:11] Once again, Where (directory) are the modules for a kernel stored in the repo tree? I need to update my kernel and modules on my eeepc with the .32 [12:11] Can anyone help here with this? [12:12] kleanchap: MANIFEST.bz2 is a good way to find those kind of answers [12:13] ananke: The interface wasn't even all that bad. I just have to figure out what to use instead from now. I've gotten used to easytag over the years. [12:13] It's got a few bugs here and there, the tree view is very buggy. [12:14] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:14] ananke, thnx [12:14] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:14] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [12:15] cron0 (~jfchevret@unaffiliated/cron0) joined ##slackware. [12:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:20] what is there on a default install that does what wicd does, so i can get onto my wifi and *get* wicd [12:20] "kernel-headers-2.6.32.5_smp-x86-1.txt" Is there a different header file for non-smp systems? [12:22] militant: wpa_supplicant [12:22] militant: fill out /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [12:23] stomanata (~stomanata@79-100-157-230.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:23] militant: wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B [12:23] kleanchap: dont touch that :P [12:24] stomanata (stomanata@79-100-157-230.btc-net.bg) left ##slackware. [12:24] has anyone successfuly compiled dvb-apps on slack 13 ? [12:24] kleanchap: you should only use the non-smp kernels (which i assume you dont) if you system wont boot with an smp kernel [12:25] okie, looking. but i'm using a wifi spot with no wpa or wep, temporarily [12:25] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:25] kleanchap: also, if you absolutely *have* to use a non-smp kernel, then you have to run a script (nosmp-sdk) which alters your kernel headers in-place [12:25] _hakera_ (~stomanata@79-100-157-230.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:25] <_hakera_> hi [12:25] macavity, my system is a eeepc with Atom280. I am assuming that it is a single core processor. [12:25] <_hakera_> from where i can read [12:25] militant: oh, then you can just use iwconfig [12:25] militant: much easier [12:25] <_hakera_> about short/fast keys in slackware 13.0 [12:26] kleanchap: this is not a single core vs multi core thing [12:26] kleanchap: you should run the standard kernel on Atom [12:26] I have downloaded the huge.s and modules files. Now I need the headers. [12:26] use hugesmp, period [12:26] cron0 (jfchevret@unaffiliated/cron0) left ##slackware. [12:26] as per the documentation [12:26] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.61.126) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:27] hmmmm....ok [12:27] and you shouldnt download the raw kernel file [12:27] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.61.126) joined ##slackware. [12:27] please pick the package [12:27] hmmm iwconfig wlan0 linksys no workie. hrm. [12:27] unknown command. it's not a command, it's specifiying the AP. sigh [12:27] militant: rtfm [12:28] militant: iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys [12:28] militant: dhcpcd wlan0 [12:28] i am, http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/iwconfig8.html says to do iwconfig [12:28] ok [12:29] no, it says essid X [12:29] where X is the name [12:29] essid is the switch to tell iwconfig that you are about to tell it the name of the essid ;-) [12:30] gotcha. my head's buzzing, ignore me :) [12:30] _hakera_ (~stomanata@79-100-157-230.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:31] kleanchap: oh fuck.. you are *not* supposed to use those headers [12:31] ech (~me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Quit: brb [12:31] kleanchap: the kernel documentation *explicitly* says that the installed headers must match the version that glibc was compiled against [12:31] kleanchap: ... not the running kernel! [12:33] kleanchap: you need: kernel-firmware-2.6.32.2-noarch-1, kernel-huge-smp-2.6.32.2_smp-i686-1 and kernel-modules-smp-2.6.32.2_smp-i686-1 [12:34] That's it. [12:34] thats it [12:34] harksaw (~sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Good....I am done downloading the files. Wish me luck. [12:34] :-) [12:34] dont forget to re-run lilo! ;-) [12:35] I will [12:35] you will forget? :P [12:35] lol [12:35] negations is a funny construct [12:35] *are [12:35] wont it ask to run lilo for you if using packages ? [12:36] yay [12:36] I'm identified [12:36] harksaw (~sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:36] Scuzz: i dont remember for upgradepkg.. slackpkg will for sure [12:36] ahh i see [12:36] edman007: *YOU* suck -_- [12:36] you're all gay [12:37] of course we are [12:37] it's funny to see barely anyone has identd running [12:37] i mean it's more obvious since i'm used to ~, instead of n= and i= but.. [12:38] everything ok in here guys? [12:38] no, we're all gay, apparently [12:38] phrag: yeah :-) [12:38] ech_ (~me@189-19-106-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:38] :) [12:39] =) [12:39] I'd not call that "okay"; if and when I decide to suck the cock, I'd like it to be my decision [12:39] lol [12:39] wow [12:39] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [12:40] oh, and we arent 1337 enough 5cR|p7 |<|dD|35 [12:40] Action: jeev pokes adaptr for another quote [12:40] so now we all feel so bad.. [12:40] ech_ (~me@189-19-106-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:40] other than that, sure, fine :P [12:41] ech_ (~me@189-19-106-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:41] :-) [12:41] kleanchap: are you firm with a screw driver? [12:41] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:41] ##slackware: mode change '+q *!*@unaffiliated/adaptr' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [12:41] lol [12:41] macavity, The files are txz files. Do I install using installpkg [12:41] adaptr: evade that and earn a lengthy ban... pm me if you have concerns [12:41] Action: kleanchap may need a screw driver [12:41] :-) [12:42] that is after this project. [12:42] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-6-24.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:42] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] 13.0 handles txz files just fine, so upgradepkg should do [12:42] you can also just installpkg them, then you have a known good fallback kernel [12:43] wait.. the firmware package might conflict [12:43] upgradepkg firmware, installpkg the two others [12:43] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-211-18.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:43] ok [12:43] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] then manually make a lilo.conf entry for both kernels (dont call them by /boot/vmlinuz, but rather full name) [12:44] this should be the "both belt and suspenders" method :P [12:44] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:45] ivo_ (~kataklysm@f048012191.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:45] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:46] anyone try the new adobe flash beta2 yet? [12:46] kleanchap: if you ever open that laptop, you *must* tell me which superio/EC it has.. and pray that it is an ITE IT851xE/TE/G [12:46] Nick change: The_ManU_212 -> The_ManU_212_afk [12:47] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:47] macavity, I will. Hopefully I don't have to. (fingers crossed) [12:47] Nick change: The_ManU_212_afk -> The_ManU_212 [12:47] ech_ (~me@189-19-106-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:47] it would be a real nice move if you did.. Coreboot needs the info :P [12:48] Camarade_Tux, **YOU** SUCK [12:48] edman007/Camarade_Tux: is that some kind of love game you got going there? :P [12:49] macavity, sorry, Camarade_Tux almost got off his knees [12:49] dumb french [12:49] so who's running multilib ? [12:49] now now guys, play nice =) [12:50] phrag, i am [12:50] i think everyone is running multilib [12:50] at least somewhat [12:50] jeev, not everyone... [12:50] phrag: btw, it's nice to see you active again :-) [12:50] ech_ (~meow@187.10.35.238) joined ##slackware. [12:50] macavity: nice to see you too mate, i do like a familiar face =) [12:50] ba [12:50] h [12:50] phrag, yea, where have you been? I have not seen you in a while [12:51] you too edman007 =) [12:51] just getting on with life etc. missed IRC tho =) [12:51] i dont get it, why is slackware not up there with the bigger distributions of linux, i hate it [12:51] i'm always here, i just talk mostly in #defocus... [12:51] phrag, where did you get a life? [12:52] Action: nachox slaps edman007 [12:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:52] jeev, slackware and n00bs don't mix, and it takes a while to become a non-n00b, which means we are the last ones to get the new users [12:52] Action: edman007 bites nachox [12:52] jeev: because the other distros think we have a bad attitude for staying close to upsteam... and because we actually require people to RTFM :P [12:53] ech_ (~meow@187.10.35.238) left irc: Changing host [12:53] ech_ (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [12:53] macavity, people seem to think that if the distro is old the software must be as well... [12:53] edman007: on google! =P [12:53] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] !google download life free [12:54] phrag, you work there now? [12:54] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [12:54] i see all these providers providing all the crap distro's [12:54] oh no, had interview but failed =) [12:54] virtual and dedicated servers, i only see crapos and stuff offered [12:54] Well, certain software developers chose the other mainstream distro's and left slackware outa the loop.... The uncanny thing about it is the majority of the time it's easier to build something for slackware than other distro's (imo). [12:54] phrag, the word failure doesn't belong in this channel. go to centos [12:54] debian is far far far from crap.. it just happens to annoy me :P [12:55] Kiboney (~Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Kiboney [12:55] Kiboney (~Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:55] macavity, everything but slackware is crapware [12:55] but from a stability and feature standpoint, Debian Stable is probably > Slackware [12:55] :O [12:55] ##slackware: mode change '-q *!*@unaffiliated/adaptr' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [12:55] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [12:55] but that still doesnt mean that i would use it :P [12:56] it's really weird.. is this a Konversation **-up ? [12:56] [18:55] *** phrag takes channel owner privileges from *!*@unaffiliated/adaptr. [12:56] because it likes to step on my toes, redo my configs, decide what i want, etc etc [12:56] adaptr: yes, use a real irc client =P [12:56] phrag: only answering a message from edman007 that is several days old ;-) [12:56] macavity: i totally agree. Most of the mainstream distro's aren't crap, just annoying. Lets separate every package into a two, or sometimes three... src, dev, and binaries... [12:56] aww :( [12:56] is adaptr running mirc again ? [12:56] Action: adaptr is a gui-slave [12:56] oh wait, i run mirc [12:56] Camarade_Tux, i forgot what i said... [12:56] jeev: sht! the affront ! [12:57] adaptr: yakuake + irssi == major win! [12:57] macavity: irssi + me == fail [12:57] irssi is nasty [12:57] macavity: Oh... and that standard on where to install it... let's just rename that apache instead of httpd.. change the binary too... Oh ya and lets put python addon's in a non separate directory as well.... [12:57] it's great, but.. well, I fail at it [12:57] you guys could remain in 1994 all you want, i will use a gui and click on things [12:57] god gave me a hand to move a mouse [12:58] haha [12:58] adaptr: you just need to learn the basics.. like change channel is alt-n (where n is a number) [12:58] jeev, keyboard is faster than a mouse, you have 10 fingers to use the many buttons on a keyboard, if it was for a mouse you would only have 3 fingers [12:58] jeev: so you got the old model then. We already have hand 2.0 [12:58] jeev: god gave me ten fingers but only two hands.. one has gotta take a hint ;-) [12:59] macavity: assume I have used it for over a year and do know most of the "basics", and can make my own statusbars and stuff [12:59] I still cannot get it to listen to reason when I add a new window./container/item/whatever [12:59] adaptr: and you still dont love it?!? :P [12:59] alas [12:59] ctl-pgup/dwn in xchat :D [12:59] i use it in the default config and love it :P [13:00] not interesed [13:00] Nick change: ech_ -> Echoes [13:00] i have one hand on my mouse and one near or around my nose [13:00] sure its the nose? ;-) [13:00] pupit (~p@109.93.233.219) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:00] jeev: better not forget which does which, then [13:00] lol [13:00] i do forget and it's not fun for my steering wheel and mouse [13:01] Nick change: Echoes -> ech [13:02] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-177.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] anyone here have a freebsd guest on their kvm ? [13:03] blasphemosity! [13:03] 21:29 edman007 : Camarade_Tux, french sucks right? [13:03] oh, right.. [13:03] so you agree, good [13:03] bah this is annoying, it's not moving as fast as it should [13:03] gotta go, I haz no electricity here... [13:04] Camarade_Tux, kremlin must be etsting generators [13:04] Camarade_Tux, how do you live? [13:04] jeev: cpu-wise or io-wise? [13:04] edman007: on battery power: laptop battery, music player battery, cellphone battery... [13:04] huh, no theyre testing power generators [13:04] Camarade_Tux, well then i say stay here until the batteries melt [13:05] alkos333 (~alkos333@96.24.140.252) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:06] edman007: going at a friend's ;-) [13:06] do they have power? [13:06] don't go if its a ghost town too [13:06] ok i have to put on a sweater, since the video card my friend gave me in exchange for mine needs all the cooling imaginable, time to point 40,000 rpm worth of fans [13:07] The_ManU_212 (manu@port-92-200-99-93.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Bye!"). [13:08] jeev: submerse it in oil! [13:09] Immundus (~obi@e179136089.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:09] .. or underclock it :P [13:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] Xaero_Vincent (~vincent@or-71-54-195-253.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] or put it in a fridge! [13:11] custom mod case in mini fridge or mini wine fridge. [13:11] yeah! [13:11] hi! I need help. It's about RE? For example: if a have files in a dir with the .X sufix (X is a number, ex: file.4) and if I wish del these files (with rm comand), how I would do it? Ex: rm /tmp/*.[0-100] ? lol, I don't know [13:11] Xaero_Vincent (~vincent@or-71-54-195-253.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:13] ech: looks good to me [13:14] macavity: do you know "how to" do it? :- D [13:14] ech: never tried doing that with rm but i bet that would work. you can do similar things with mv and cp... cp file{.sh,.tmp} or mv file{.sh,.tmp} [13:15] ewrwerwerw (~ewrwerwer@host227-153-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:15] for i in seq 1 100; do echo rm file.${i}; done [13:15] ewrwerwerw (~ewrwerwer@host227-153-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [13:15] check whether that produces all the rm commands you need [13:15] after that, remove the echo [13:15] ech: i just tested with your command, at it works as advertised [13:16] rm *.[1-100] [13:16] ewrwerwerw (~ewrwerwer@host227-153-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:16] hm, wait [13:16] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:16] no it doesnt [13:17] i tried 1-4 [13:17] ewrwerwerw (~ewrwerwer@host227-153-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [13:17] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [13:18] what.. this is funny [13:18] syriusz666 (~ewrwerwer@host227-153-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:19] thank you very much agentc0re [13:19] eh? [13:19] zalost (~keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. [13:19] macavity: hahah [13:20] nachox: I was waiting for a single rm comand with a regular expression, but thanks [13:21] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:101) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:21] ech, i would have used that version too but since you were unsure, i created a script to run a safer version [13:21] rm *.[0-9][0-9][0-9] [13:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-59-164.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] leaves all the one and two digit ones behind [13:22] yes so delete those extra [13:22] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] or use something that has good regexp capabilities [13:23] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-177.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:23] so rm *.{1..100} [13:24] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:24] DOH! :P [13:24] edman007++ [13:24] morning all [13:25] thanks [13:25] :D [13:25] Action: ech away [13:26] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:26] btw, how many of you have an EeePC? [13:26] macavity, wanna buy me one? [13:26] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:27] no, i just want you to open it and tell which superio/EC it has :P [13:27] i am working on Coreboot, and it would be really really nice to figure out how alike the different Asus models are [13:27] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:28] macavity: you want an end-to-end free computer? [13:29] eviljames: we are still pretty far from that.. the VGA BIOS being the first major obstacle [13:29] tsonev (~tsonev@78-83-58-22.spectrumnet.bg) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:30] eviljames: in the case of descrete cards i would be willing to let it slide.. as people generally dont mess with the vbios on those [13:30] pupit (~p@93.86.1.73) joined ##slackware. [13:30] eviljames: but for stuff with integrated graphics we need a free version to be able to distribute ready-made bios images [13:31] eviljames: but the first step is to get my machine supported, as once i have it coreboot'ed i can install a shim layer (yabel), and see which commands the "backside" of the vbios emits to the gpu [13:32] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-59-164.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:32] Well, better you than me. I wish I had that kind of time... [13:33] (said on irc on a Saturday morning...) :P [13:33] this is more about being willing to get headaches than time [13:33] i have a newfound respect for people who RE stuff.. *man* that is grueling hard work [13:33] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-59-164.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [13:36] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:37] every time i put it on animal planet, i see debian, centos, fedora and every other crap distro user running around getting eaten by eagles, cheetahs and lions [13:39] Then Slackware comes along and eats the lions? [13:39] Let's face it, Slackware is the fist behind Chuck Norris' beard. [13:39] slackware scares chuck norris [13:39] i think Slackware was the distro Chuck used to develop his beard on! [13:40] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-214-124.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] i dont know about that, his beard existed long before slackware [13:41] Right, but the fist behind his beard is a relatively new occurance. [13:41] We all know it has Slackware Inside. [13:42] someone needs to stick a slackware sticker on his beard [13:44] militant_ (~militant@173.81.61.101) joined ##slackware. [13:44] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Quit: Use the x, guy [13:44] I will personally give $.50 to anyone who does. [13:44] nobody is going to take your terrorist money [13:44] via paypal. btw, there is a $2.50 transaction charge (payable to me) for accepting $.50 from me. [13:44] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:44] stop trying to launder 50 cents [13:44] hahahah [13:45] I almost wrote something about an affiliation between me and a certain group [13:45] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:45] what group, GNAA? [13:45] but then I remembered about the CIA presence in this channel. [13:45] and their wiretap on my internet line [13:45] jeev: NAMBLA [13:45] thought you said affiliation [13:45] hahahahahahah I had to google GNAA [13:45] <3 jeev [13:46] lol it's hilarious [13:46] militant_ (~militant@173.81.61.101) left irc: Client Quit [13:46] they're the ass touchers flooding freenode [13:46] i bet there's not a single black guy in that group [13:46] I sincerely doubt there's any. [13:46] militant_ (~militant@173-81-61-101-pkbg.atw.dyn.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] forgot screen [13:46] Also, jeev, I thought white guys couldn't be terrorists. [13:46] jeev: look at the shoe bomber guy. Nobody calls him the retardorrist [13:47] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [13:47] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:47] militant_: I *hate* it when I do that. [13:47] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-214-124.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:47] so with sbopkg i should just build the package in question, and when it spits out errors about missing dependencies, add those to the queue as well? [13:48] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:48] Kiboney (~Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:50] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin [13:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-59-164.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:54] syriusz666 (~ewrwerwer@host227-153-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [13:56] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:56] ? [13:58] militant_: yes. [13:58] ok. and manage the queue so it's not wasting time redoing packages that did install properly, i'm sure [13:58] militant_: Though, the recommended course of action is to read up on the software you are trying to build, understand why those deps are required and build them from SlackBuild rather than use sbopkg :P [13:58] militant_: the README for each package generaly lists the depndencies [13:58] sigh [13:59] militant_: This is the Slackware way. If you want automatic dependency resolution (and you don't, because it sucks) there are other distros for that. [13:59] well i'm not gonna get all this stuff right the first time through. i'll just beat at it til it works [13:59] More accurately: There are other distros failing at automatic dep resolution. Don't feel bad if you fail at doing it manually. Learn, lather, rinse, repeat. [13:59] eviljames: NOOOOOO i'm an old slacker i've just been stuck in windows and debian/ubuntu/etc for a while [14:00] i don't mind learning [14:00] Sweet. If you're new to this channel you'll be a welcome breath of fresh air from the "plz hold my hand kthxbai!" crowd that has come through recently. [14:00] so whenever possible, i should use slackbuild as opposed to any other option? [14:01] haha well thank you. i like advice and pointers, but i try to strike a balance [14:01] The highest order of purity is a packages made by Pat. The next highest is the community vetted SlackBuilds.org scripts. [14:01] Read the README and the SlackBuild as many have options that you may wish to modify. [14:02] then the following 1 liner downloads and builds: $ . ./.info && wget -c $DOWNLOAD && su -c 'ARCH=x86_64 ./.SlackBuild' [14:02] change ARCH and any other build flags as neeed. [14:02] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-217-212.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] okie. it'll be a lot easier once i have enlightenment up [14:03] that's what i'm trying to sbopkg right now in fact [14:07] back when i used slack last (7.1) i just always fetched the latest stable source and ./configure ; make ; make install [14:07] it's changed :/ [14:07] sort of. [14:07] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:07] militant_: the build queue system in sbopkg really facilitates manual dependency tracking very well [14:08] macavity: it does indeed, from what i'm seeing. but it's still not the 'preferred' method it seems? [14:08] the vast, vast majority of Slackbuilds, especially from SBo, are a wrapper around ./configure ; make ; make install that create a .tgz for you to use with pkgtools ({install,remove,upgrade}pkg) [14:08] oh [14:08] militant_: what you do is: look up package, add it, add its dependencies, and the dependencies of the dependencies etc etc... then pick "reverse queue", then process it [14:08] ohhhhh [14:08] I should've prefaced my comments with something that is a bit of a trusim: [14:08] sorta what i've been doing except i've been relying on the errors to tell me what's missing [14:09] militant_: Slackware is _your_ system. The "preferred" method is the method you prefer. You are provided with a base that works solid together, and the rest is up to you. [14:09] i have yet to see an SBo package that didnt list its deps properly [14:09] that's quite true, yes. i'm just trying to find the cleanest way to do it [14:09] without leaving dirs all over the place full of leftovers and so on [14:10] use the build queue -> reverse -> process method [14:10] heh [14:10] and wipe /tmp when you are done :P [14:10] macavity: there are some. Dependency tracking is not easy after all :) [14:10] pprkut: they are few and far between [14:10] true [14:10] Immundus (obi@e179136089.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware ("signing off"). [14:11] militant_: Before I go to build anything, I rsync the SBo tree for my version. Then I read the README for the package I want, then I start dep hunting as need be. I do the build 1 liner, followed by an upgradepkg --install-new /tmp/[package archive]. [14:11] macavity: that's mostly what i'm doing now, trying to get e17 up. [14:11] for now i don't need a mountain of customization or extra complication, this install won't be the final one. i'm taking small steady steps though [14:12] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-217-212.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:12] and then i get to do it all over again on 3 other machines :D [14:12] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:12] the desktop, the netbook, and the other laptop [14:12] they're all ubuntu rt now [14:13] though i suppose i might settle for slack on the main laptop and desktop, and leave ubuntu on the others just kuz i do have other things to do and ubuntu's 'just works' is neat at times [14:14] 'just' is what usually breaks things:) [14:15] militant_: are the other machines Slackware of the same 32/64 bit? [14:15] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [14:15] militant_: if so, build all the packages once and just installpkg the whole shebang on the new machine. [14:15] no i have a random combination of athlon64's, core 2's, atoms, etc [14:15] i wish [14:15] my whole family runs slack... once configured correctly, runs forever with little maintenance aside from patching [14:16] phrag: yeah my old slack box was weeks of getting it right, then it just... ran. forever. [14:16] militant_: Then build the packages twice. Once for 32bit once for 64bit (on appropriate slackware and slackware64 machines) [14:16] ..and i never get 'its broke' calls [14:17] militant_: it can be hit miss with initial config, ibe had most stuff work out the box with recent slack... but obviously have had my config chores in the past =P [14:17] it is a bit of a pain tracking down some of these deps using lynx and so on. like edbus and ehal aren't showing in the repo so ... gah. i'll get it tho [14:17] pupit (~p@93.86.1.73) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:18] lynx? [14:18] o.0 [14:18] rsync -azPv rsync://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0 . [14:18] =) [14:18] eviljames: just googling, i mean, so i can see if they're part of a different package or something [14:18] then cat /README [14:18] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:19] militant_: if you rsync the tree, every package has a README file, every one of those contains the correct deps. [14:19] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] militant_: will be way faster than googling. [14:19] yeah doing that now [14:19] pupit (~p@93.86.1.73) joined ##slackware. [14:19] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:20] do appreciate all the tips and stuff. otherwise i'd still be just hand building from source and having a mess [14:20] I used to do that all the time, because I'd keep a separate root partition from home.. then just wipe it and re-install clean when I buggered it up too bad. [14:21] that was my old routine too [14:21] til i got sick of it and got a system that worked, but was probably creaky and insecure, and i just said screw it and went with it [14:21] heh [14:21] packages are much *much* cleaner [14:22] Anakin (anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:22] How do you change the hostname on Slackware [14:22] ? [14:23] type "hostname" [14:23] sorry, type "man hostname" [14:23] hopefully i won't have many more troubles, everything prior to enlightenment has built and there's just those 2 deps it's complaining about now, edbus and ehal [14:24] I know that...I skipped the network configuration during the install. Now I got my wifi working, I want to setup the hostname and domainname. [14:24] kleanchap: netconfig as root [14:24] Oh, sahk0 that's much more helpful than me :P [14:25] :P [14:25] kleanchap: or edit /etc/HOSTNAME :P [14:25] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Bored by the chore of saving face. [14:26] can i just grep thru the dir rsync produced, for the things i'm missing, like edbus? [14:26] militant_: you could do find . -iname "*edbus*" for example.. or ls **/* | grep edbus [14:26] militant_: or grep -R "edbus" * [14:26] so many choices :P [14:27] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [14:27] word [14:28] um grep -R "edbus" * has no results [14:28] um hrm.. that's because it's not in SBo [14:29] ahhhh [14:29] militant_: cd Libraries/e_dbus [14:29] oooh [14:29] I ride the edbus. [14:29] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-23.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] mshade: you mean the UFO? (gotta make it sound FUN!) [14:34] eviljames: e_dbus was in repo, dunno why enlightenment build complained about *edbus* [14:34] i think i'll have e17 finally [14:41] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:42] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:42] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:43] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [14:44] woot. wow. e17 is a lot diff than 16. didn't expect that [14:45] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [14:46] militant_: \o/ [14:46] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-246-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] thanks for the help for real [14:46] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [14:47] i sorta think i like e16 better but i'm not goin thru all that again [14:47] are you on a particularly low power computer? Why not just go with kde4? [14:47] i dislike kde intensely. i don't really like ANYTHING on my screen except what i put there [14:47] i'm a bare minimalist [14:47] heh, that's why I like kde so much :P [14:48] I want a desktop full of plasmoids and my windows overtop. + yakuake [14:48] menus & shit can all be hidden away. [14:48] Budd^ (~budd@76.252.166.92) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:49] i'm a nut about system resources [14:50] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Thanks everyone for the help. I got SL13 running on my eeepc and WiFi is working great! [14:52] hmm no i definitely do not like this. is there any compelling reason to stick with e17 rather than e16? like e16 breaking stuff or something? [14:53] GAH i'm just... gonna... start... all over... again... [14:54] e16 is _very_ old :) [14:54] yes but i like its look and behaviour better [14:54] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] :D [14:56] militant_: you should try blackbox [14:56] maybe. [14:56] Yay I've lost my system tray (kde)! [14:56] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:58] carne_de_passaro (~carne_de_@189.78.149.65) joined ##slackware. [14:59] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-49-250.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:59] being old isn't a reason to stop using it, if everything works [15:00] i don't want special effects and flashy crap. [15:00] militant_: try icewm [15:01] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:01] endless (~endless@c-71-198-216-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Camarade_Tux, ping [15:01] Anyone using lxde on SL13? [15:02] um is there a *reason* not to use e16? is what i'm asking. i already like how it looks, works, etc. [15:03] other than it being a messy install since there's no slackbuild afaik [15:03] then start writing one [15:03] sahk0: i'm not that skilled yet :) [15:03] endless (~endless@c-71-198-216-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:04] then stop complaining:) [15:04] i'm not complaining, i don't mind a messy build. the core question i'm trying to ascertain is whether there is a good reason not to use e16 other than 'its old' [15:04] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:05] reasons like old are not applicable in Slackware [15:05] endless (~endless@c-71-198-216-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] is old* [15:05] woo, then off i go to reinstall this whole partition [15:05] bbiaf [15:05] the only reasons are works as we want to or doesnt [15:06] militant_ (~militant@173-81-61-101-pkbg.atw.dyn.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: yay [15:07] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:09] Anakin (anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [15:10] alienBOB, Are you there? [15:10] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:10] Where else would he be? [15:11] Overther [15:11] :-) [15:11] Good [15:12] alienBOB, I want to include your repo for SL13 to install lxde and other tools that were ported to SL13. [15:12] How do I do this? [15:13] Erm, "include"? [15:13] newbie (~newbie@41.252.40.208) joined ##slackware. [15:14] include the path to your repo? where? [15:15] pkgtools dont work like that [15:15] kleanchap: for slackpkg? [15:15] thumbs, yes [15:16] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:16] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:17] kleanchap: impossible [15:17] slackpkg only works with official Slackware packages [15:18] that's correct. [15:18] mikl0 (mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [15:19] ok, then how can I download lxde and other tools from your repo for SL13? [15:19] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:19] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:19] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:21] wget/lftp/rsync/click on them/any other way [15:21] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) joined ##slackware. [15:22] carne_de_passaro (~carne_de_@189.78.149.65) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:22] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [15:22] sahk0, Thnx! So these repos don't do any denpendency checks? [15:23] is that a real question? [15:23] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:23] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Changing host [15:23] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:24] kleanchap: this is Slackware, and I create Slackware packages. If you want to hunt dependencies read my slack-required files [15:24] slackware doesnt have deps, whats to check [15:24] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:24] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:24] Patero-ng (~Basura@174-23-45-134.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] hello [15:25] I have slack 12 and I want to know if it's pgp version is secre [15:25] We have gpg, not pgp [15:25] And what is "secre" ? [15:27] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:27] gpg? [15:27] is that for email [15:27] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:30] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: Changing server [15:30] Patero-ng: gpg is the free and open clone of pgp [15:30] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:32] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [15:32] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:32] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:32] :/ [15:32] are you sure that is slackware 12 and not backtrack3 [15:33] is backtrack 3 [15:33] same [15:34] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:34] No, they're not. [15:34] ivo_ (~kataklysm@f048012191.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:34] Any ocaml users in here? I installed it using the SBo build and i'm getting some odd library errors. "open Graphics;;" works but then calling anything in Graphics fails with unbound error [15:35] macavity: the only reason i "let" alienBOB involve into a conversation with him was that in the end he'd get irritated enough (like the rest of us) to ban him :p [15:36] lol [15:36] ivo_ (~kataklysm@g228144059.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:36] but you ruined it all [15:37] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:37] s/involve/engage [15:37] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [15:37] backtrack = slackware clone i guess? [15:38] slackware based [15:38] agentc0re: slax based [15:38] it used to be [15:39] hiptobecubic: Camarade_Tux is an Ocaml user if my memory's still ok :) [15:40] heaumer, yeah i know. He's the only one i've ever heard of :D [15:40] (I used Ocaml in the past, on slackware, but I do not remember using Graphics) [15:40] :p [15:41] carne_de_passaro (~carne_de_@189.78.120.90) joined ##slackware. [15:41] newbie (~newbie@41.252.40.208) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:42] endless (~endless@c-71-198-216-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:43] endless (~endless@c-71-198-216-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:43] I'm just trying to work through some of ocaml-tutorial.org [15:44] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. 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[16:08] what, are you afraid Arnold is going to come in here and kick your behind? :P [16:09] macavity, arnold is a loser, i live in cali [16:09] hmm.. i seccnd the motion to have all cali based ips banned :P [16:09] i said BUT [16:10] not buts.. it shall be done as i said [16:10] fhgdgf (1000@87.120.157.27) joined ##slackware. [16:10] we should use the folks from denmark as bait to capture giant squid [16:10] acidchild (ash@septic.ziwall.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] fhgdgf: much better.. now you just need a nick we can actually read ;-) [16:11] macavity, you can't read fhgdgf? [16:11] not out loud at least [16:11] efhagedegef kinda doesnt sound right [16:11] anyone know how to resolve this, i rsynced my /home on to a loop0 device, with ext2 (maybe this is the issue) and now i have some files like this, crwxr-xr-T 47687 3914433035 1442333930 130, 78 Oct 11 1972 shared/eomax/sdk/rr/proprietary/gst-dmai-plugins. user nor root are able to change perms on them or delete/save to. any suggestions how to fix these permissions? [16:12] chown: changing ownership of `shared/eomax/sdk/rr/bootloader/u-boot-2009.11/src/lib_avr32/memset.S': Operation not permitted [16:12] acidchild: what are you doing with u-boot? [16:13] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [16:13] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [16:13] Uh, TI Davinci 6446000 board i was talking about the other day. [16:14] they where just examples (at the bottom of the buffer) its mainly the crwxr-xr-T <-- and 3914433035 1442333930 UID:GID that i have no idea whats going on. [16:14] fhgdgf (1000@87.120.157.27) left irc: Client Quit [16:14] that looks severly corrupt :P [16:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-59-164.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] uhm, does ext2 support long uid/gid fields? [16:15] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:15] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:16] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:16] never mind.. [16:17] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] macius (~root@i209-195-113-90.cia.com) joined ##slackware. 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Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it." --Martin Luther King Jr [16:21] hiptobecubic: pong :-) [16:21] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:21] hey i just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.32, although im not able to compile ndiswrapper now, this seems like a pretty common error but i cant find any solutions [16:21] i tend to agree with Mr King on that one :P [16:21] hiptobecubic: try running "ocaml graphics.cma" rather than just "ocaml" [16:21] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:22] hiptobecubic: or type '#load "graphics.cma;;"' once the toplevel has been started [16:22] Camarade_Tux, you got your new system up? [16:22] macius: which card do you need ndiswrapper for? [16:22] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] jeev: it is ;-) [16:22] jeev: now I only need electricity at home... [16:22] fark [16:22] macavity: bcm4322 [16:22] you can't test something for me right now [16:23] macius: that should not need ndiswrapper anymore.. download b43-fwcutter and then b43-firmware from slackbuilds.org [16:23] ive got it to work with 2.6.27 although the only way it worked was with ndis [16:23] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:23] macavity o yeah? i havent tried that actually ty [16:23] :-) [16:24] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-49-250.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [16:24] ndiswrapper is a cude hack that should never have been in the first place :P [16:24] *crude [16:25] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [16:26] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:26] commandline util to check battery? [16:26] lol alright well i just got those 2 files and the slackbuild? after installation will they generate wlan0? just curious [16:27] militant: somewhere in /sys you can just echo a file and it will tell you the status [16:27] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:27] cool. need to find something gui for e, along with a clock, and my box is about good to go [16:28] but where... [16:29] militant: /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/* and /sys/class/power_supply/AC0/* [16:31] eh, i just run acpi [16:32] ? [16:32] the acpi command [16:32] root@hobo:/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0# acpi [16:32] Battery 0: Charging, 80%, 00:09:37 until charged [16:32] whut? i dont have that command [16:32] i had to install it [16:32] ah [16:33] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [16:33] i have a very crappy battery i might get 30 mins out of so taking laptop out for a smoke or whatever can be risky [16:33] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:34] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Quit: x [16:34] 832000 is my max cap now, 4000000 was the design, supposedly. sigh [16:35] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:36] ivo_ (~kataklysm@g228144059.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:37] macavity: im pretty confused on how b43-fwcutter works after readign the manual page, id the .sys file found on my comp or do i have to get it manually? [16:38] macius: let me check [16:41] macius: you need to have b43-fwcutter installed to be able to build the b43-firmware package [16:41] macius: so, now that you have installed b43-fwcutter, procede to b43-firmware [16:42] juice (1000@67.48.17.30) joined ##slackware. [16:42] macius: once you have b43-firmware installed you can remove b43-rwcutter, as it is just a prep-tool [16:42] *fwcutter [16:43] macavity: i installed both of them in that order actually first fwcutter and firmware :S just dunno what to do from now [16:43] macavity: a restart would be need you think? [16:44] did b43-firmware complain about anything when you built it? [16:44] if not, rmmod b43 && modprobe b43 [16:44] and you should be good to go [16:44] new_bie (~newbie@41.252.40.208) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Eternal_Newbie (~andrew@cpc2-sout5-0-0-cust241.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.48) joined ##slackware. [16:46] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-38-217.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:47] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:47] yeah i was able ot load it just i have no wireless interfaces yet :S hm [16:47] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:48] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-38-217.multimo.pl) left irc: Client Quit [16:48] and nope the build went properly [16:48] ifconfig -a? [16:49] nessundorma_ (~mike@78-134-84-176.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [16:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-94-252.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by nessundorma_!~mike@78-134-84-176.dynamic.eolo.it)) [16:51] Nick change: nessundorma_ -> nessundorma [16:52] macavity: all that outputsis eth0 and lo a wireless iterface didnt generate [16:52] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:52] nessundorma, 8-) [16:52] macius: check dmesg? [16:52] and reboot if all else fails [16:52] new_bie (~newbie@41.252.40.208) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:52] o shit im dumb yeah i got one error in that [16:53] what does it say? [16:53] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:54] found unsupported [16:54] :S somehting [16:54] new_bie (~newbie@41.252.40.208) joined ##slackware. [16:54] its a small error messsage tho [16:54] should i post it? [16:54] how many lines? [16:54] 1 [16:54] paste here [16:54] b43-phy3 ERROR: FOUND UNSUPPORTED PHY (Analog 8, Type 4, Revision 4) [16:55] any idea what that means :S [16:55] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] either Not Good(TM) or a reboot will fix it [16:55] yes, the phy is the radio on the card [16:55] ah [16:56] well alright ill try a reboot [16:56] but phy3 suggests to me that something went odd [16:56] ty anyway :) hoping this will work [16:56] macius (~macius@i209-195-113-90.cia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:57] psYcker (~psy@201.156.108.196) joined ##slackware. [16:57] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-246-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:59] lyminsk (lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:59] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:59] eeeGuitarman (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:00] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [17:01] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:02] macius (~macius@i209-195-113-90.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] any luck? [17:02] still not working [17:02] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.48) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] so what was that other problem it could be? [17:03] ugh sorry my cable is lose and getting dc'd from that [17:04] that a reboot was needed :-/ [17:04] _NaCl_ (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [17:04] googling [17:04] _NaCl_ (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [17:04] i did reboot :S lol sorry macvity i think im missing like 1/2 yoru messages [17:04] slack's install from http option during the initial install... is that like local http or can it be over the internet? [17:06] should i tried installing it prior from linuxwireless actually but that failed, would that be causing this problem somehow? [17:06] -should [17:06] odd.. it seems that your card saw support as early as february last year [17:08] gartt (~gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:08] o yeah? well it worked properly before upgradign the kernel and i think i did it using hte same method, maybe its something due to the kernel [17:08] slack's install from http option during the initial install... is that like local http or can it be over the internet? [17:08] no, ndiswrapper uses the windows .sys file [17:08] err [17:08] :P just realized i got those 2 and ndis and did both of them, wrote a guide and yeah [17:08] ops [17:09] hm [17:11] the error message looks legit enough from what i can read [17:11] you may simply have been hit by bad luck with a combo of chip and phy that doesnt play nice with b43 [17:13] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: bbl [17:13] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:16] carne_de_passaro (~carne_de_@189.78.120.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:19] so you dont think is possible to fix this without buying a usb wifi adapter? [17:19] it was working with previous kernel tho right? [17:19] so ugh [17:19] this sucks [17:20] that does suck [17:20] Budd^ (~budd@76.252.164.74) joined ##slackware. [17:20] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:22] /usr/bin/google-chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libnssutil3.so.1d: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [17:22] joy [17:25] there is a libnssutil3.so.1d in /opt/google/chrome but i dont' know where the link should be [17:27] militant: Have you upgraded so that you have seamonkey 2.0.1 yet from patches/ ? [17:28] fire|bird: nope. why would i need to, if i'm not using seamonkey, and chrome installed its own libnssutil3 ? [17:28] chrome worked on last night's first slackware install without doing said upgrade [17:28] militant: chrome doesn't install it's own, it uses seamonkeys and makes the proper symlinks. Somebody was in here yesterday with the same error you got and that's what fixed it. [17:30] ok, so it's one possible fix. still trying to figure out why i'd need to though, considering i didn't last night when i first installed slack and chrome [17:31] dartmouth (~dartmouth@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] eviljames -- re: http://slackware-radeonhd5770-compatibility.blogspot.com/2010/01/godsend-eviljames-on-freenode.html | I tried the 10.1 catalyst driver on a fresh slackware64-current install and got another hardlock [17:33] eviljames, so im curious what install process you used to get it working [17:33] ep0ch (~epoch@adsl-99-155-155-217.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] did you build the package or just do the recommended installation through the menus? [17:33] ep0ch, UR B&! 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[18:05] erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Nick change: slackd00d -> Guest16419 [18:06] Nick change: anavel -> Guest14696 [18:06] Nick change: jimi -> Guest94133 [18:06] Nick change: Tabmow -> Guest58096 [18:06] Nick change: chopp -> Guest95078 [18:06] hi, I got the the kernel panic afeter recet slackware update [18:06] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Quit: Support Freenode - http://bit.ly/3NtvfD [18:06] nachox_ (~Ignacio@190.51.61.126) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:06] paul424, did you upgrade the kernel [18:06] yeah sure [18:06] I get : Re: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block [18:07] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [18:07] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-59-164.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:07] panzer (~panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Changing host [18:07] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [18:08] is it possible that the fstab config has changed ... [18:08] Guest95078 (~chopp@d142-59-63-193.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:08] chopp (~chopp@d142-59-63-193.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] chopp (~chopp@d142-59-63-193.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Changing host [18:08] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:08] sounds like the kernel does not support the root filesystem [18:09] hiptobecubic (john@75.111.175.180) left ##slackware. [18:09] hiptobecubic (~john@75.111.175.180) joined ##slackware. [18:09] look up mkinitrd (?) [18:10] no, whats mkinitrd ? btw both are ext2 [18:10] makes an initial ramdisk [18:10] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:10] to load the kernel modules you need [18:12] or you can boot with the huge kernel... [18:12] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [18:12] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) joined ##slackware. [18:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:13] lolwut (1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:14] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-73.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:15] messundorma: yeah I think the huge would be the best ... [18:15] I mean I should relnink the vmlinuz in /boot to do that, right ? [18:16] you can just add another entry in /etc/fstab, if you want... [18:16] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:16] sorry, [18:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin [18:16] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] i meant lilo.conf [18:16] aha thats also an option. [18:17] Also , the kernel with smp , means the support for multicore processors ? smp = symetric multi processing , right ? [18:17] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:17] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [18:17] yes, but will do for any CPU quite recent as well [18:17] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [18:18] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!root@* expired. [18:18] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:18] I mean if I have the athlonxp there is no adventage in taking it , right nessundorma ? [18:18] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:18] http://gist.github.com/289467 <- coding humour [18:18] macius (~macius@i209-195-113-90.cia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:18] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@132.170.90.120) joined ##slackware. [18:19] the athlonXP works fine with SMP kernels, whether it has 1 or 2 cores [18:19] good evening slackware! [18:20] nessundorma: dude thats not what I do asking , I ask if there would be adventage in speed ... [18:21] rather not I suppose... also whats the diffrence for the OS bettwen 2MB and 4MB kernel ? [18:21] paul424, 2+ cores: use SMP kernels. 1 core: SMP kernel won't harm performance [18:21] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [18:21] so: use SMP kernels UNLESS you can't [18:21] ok thanks [18:22] packeteer: especially the line with windows shows how "CUTE " with windows API was :P [18:23] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] limac (~chatzilla@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-96-51.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] may i bother someone to help me figure out why my autowifi daemon isn't working? [18:25] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:25] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:27] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:29] King_Ozzy: i just use wicd, picking one AP and exiting did the job [18:29] escaflown1 (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:29] escaflown1 (~elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:32] i use several different wifi's regularly, will that change automatically between them? [18:32] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.61.126) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:32] i don't know. i haven't been out of the house yet since using it. i assume there's a priority list option. i know when you pick a spot and config it, it has an option for auto-connect [18:33] so if your spots are in different locations, it should use whichever you've set up that happens to be available [18:33] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] hrm [18:33] eviljames: ping [18:35] slackin (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [18:35] hiptobecubic (~john@75.111.175.180) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:35] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:36] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:38] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:39] lol [18:39] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [18:40] King_Ozzy: using WICD you will be able to roam between AP's easily, with or without encryption [18:40] Nick change: righteous -> righteous_fail [18:40] Nick change: righteous_fail -> righteous [18:41] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:41] Bawow (lucas@187.2.100.42) left ##slackware. [18:42] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:43] how disappointing... booted from the slack usb stick to get into my ubuntu partition and my usb keyboard and mouse no workie [18:44] Teratogen (leontopod@intertwingled.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:45] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@132.170.90.120) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:45] Teratogen (leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Changing host [18:45] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [18:45] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:45] carne_de_passaro (~carne_de_@189.78.120.31) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:47] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:50] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@132.170.90.120) joined ##slackware. [18:50] wcid actually seems to be working [18:50] so far XD [18:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-96-51.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:52] King_Ozzy: good deal [18:53] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:54] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:54] if this holds up, i will be pretty much done with all linux problems. <3 [18:54] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [18:54] hey notKlaatu [18:55] are you Verada? [18:55] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [18:55] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:55] that's nice. wicd was the first thing i tried when i switched to slackware and it 'just works' :D [18:55] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:55] jeez wtf is up with this card :/ [18:56] militant: only if you follow the instructions, you'd be surprised how many people dont :) [18:56] i tried autowifi, networkmanager, and wifi-radar, all annoyed the #($* out of me [18:56] spook: i didn't, i just sorta floundered around for 5 minutes and figured out how to specify the type of encryption and set it to auto-associate and ... done [18:57] it has a nice little icon in the tray, im about to reboot and see if its "automatically connect to this network" option actually works [18:58] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:58] militant: i meant things like reloading dbus rules and starting the daemon, but yeah that too. [18:58] what's a user of slackware called? [18:58] King_Ozzy: slacker [18:58] spook: i didn't do that either... dunno why it works, then [18:58] see y'all later, i love slackers XD [18:58] militant: if you rebooted that'd do it. [18:58] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@132.170.90.120) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:59] ph|ber (~phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) joined ##slackware. [18:59] oh, word. [19:00] now, to figure out how to get into my ubuntu partition (mbr overwritten) from a box with no cd drive and nothing but xp on the other partition... hrm. [19:01] militant: if it's ext3 you can access it from xp with a 3rd party driver [19:01] hey.. whats the best way to kill a process that will not die with kill -9 ? [19:01] i believe it's ext4 [19:01] militant: ive not had luck with ext4 [19:01] in xp [19:01] was looking for ways to do so from the slackware usb install stick i made, no dice so far [19:01] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [19:02] militant: try booting from your slack usb stick again and troubleshooting the usb stuff [19:02] Camarade_Tux, how do libraries work in ocaml? I'm sure there's no CPAN :) [19:02] sometimes with stuff like that its something simple [19:02] just need to copy a few files (if any, not sure) from the ubuntu partition over before wiping the ubuntu partition to do slackware instead [19:03] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:03] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:03] macius (~macius@i209-195-113-90.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:04] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: "Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it." --Martin Luther King Jr [19:04] hey macavity, alright i was playing around with b43 for a while and nothing, honeslty i think the easiest way to get it to work is thorugh ndis but i cant get it to install with this kernel version [19:04] prety hard to troubleshoot usb issues when i have no input method :P [19:05] anyone? [19:05] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:06] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [19:06] fire|bird (~fire|bird@buhkit.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] fire|bird (~fire|bird@buhkit.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:06] would you be able to look at the error message quickthings and maybe you'll understand whats wrong with this, alot of solution just most invovle apt-get lol [19:06] what's up with the three A people [19:06] ph|ber: uh, thats not good.. is it a kernel process? [19:07] antiwire: huh? [19:07] macius: talking to me? i'm lost in the chan flow atm [19:07] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:07] fire|bird (~fire|bird@buhkit.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-73.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:08] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest4682 [19:08] mount [19:08] macius: now that antiwire is here you should probably try to pester him with it [19:08] o lol yeah, alright give me one sec militant gonna redownload ndiswrapper, the one on slackbuild should work with slackware 13 even after upgrading entire system right? [19:08] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.33.148) left irc: Changing host [19:08] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [19:08] I know nooothing! [19:08] ph|ber: it should time out by itself [19:09] screw it i'll just install slack ayway, anything i lose won't matter [19:09] antiwire: he has bcm4322 and it wont work with b43 + fwcutter from SBo [19:10] macius: it could be kernel version specific [19:10] I don't use broadcom wireless chipsets [19:10] ph|ber, mount? last time it happened to me, it was because I had problems with the device [19:10] huh? i thought you used to be the madwifi guy back in the day? [19:10] gdf [19:10] ya.. [19:11] ph|ber, you might want to check it someway [19:11] what does madwifi have to do with broadcom? [19:11] Guest4682 (~fire|bird@buhkit.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:11] ah fsck.. right, that was for Atheros [19:12] antiwire: just out of curiousity your using a macbook aswell? [19:12] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:12] assuming that with all the atheros and brodcom talk circulating you which are apples most common wifi cards right [19:13] macius: No, but my laptop is almost identical to a Macbook's internal guts [19:13] And I said I'm not using broadcom... [19:13] antiwire: which one do you have? [19:13] I have Latitude D630 now [19:13] with an atheros BGN wifi card [19:14] Camarade_Tux, also, what's with this #load graphics.cma;; nonsense? It doesn't know which files it needs when you tell it to load a package with open? [19:14] geif! :P [19:14] hm alright then im jsut gonna go get ndis but would anyone know why its not able to copile on my system [19:14] macius: pastebin the last 10 lines or so of the fail [19:15] can somone toss me a pastbin link plz, its not alot of writing just way to big for paste here [19:15] yeah [19:15] pastebin.ca [19:15] you have to type it? [19:16] Nick change: [OpenSys] -> OpenSys [19:16] Action: righteous throws himself at macavity's feet [19:16] whut the.. [19:17] Action: righteous looks up with bambi eyes [19:17] righteous: get up :P [19:17] hrm [19:17] any OPs around? [19:17] http://www.pastebin.ca/1772574 [19:17] Dominian: what? i didn't do a thing! :P [19:17] :) [19:17] macavity: i need some help with this damn card, still. :/ [19:17] thats whats happening when im trying to install it using teh slackbuild [19:17] hang on for support [19:18] I just can't figure it out. [19:18] righteous: be right there.. macius got to it first [19:18] lol [19:18] well this is annoying. doing an http or ftp install from a remote source seems to be failing [19:18] macius did not do the feet throwing and the bambi eyeballing. [19:18] OPs will need to remove: -q $~a [19:18] the equivalent of +R [19:19] since +R is no longer used [19:19] but unidentifed users can't speak right now :) [19:19] yeah its been like that a couple of days [19:19] yep [19:19] the ircd switch changed it to +q [19:19] ah [19:19] some are forgetting about it [19:20] i have no optical drive on this box. i really need to do an http install [19:20] freelibrary (~notRoot@e176078216.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [19:21] macius: hmmm... i may have to bite the bullet on this one and ask you to upgradepkg both the kernel headers and possibly also the kernel source packages :-/ [19:21] freelibrary (~notRoot@e176078216.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [19:21] righteous: ok, what card, what problem? [19:21] Radeon HD 5770, causes a hardlock with fglrx. [19:21] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-124.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] i can give you various version numbers [19:22] many logs [19:22] ah, i'm the wrong guy [19:22] beer money [19:22] macavity i already did a complete system upgrade i should be up to date :S [19:22] NaCl or eviljames [19:22] yeah, i know :( no ones here. [19:22] they know what the hell that is all about (i think) [19:22] eviljames: ***PING?*** [19:22] i even started a blog devoted to the solution so that people can find it when they're done beating their faces off their keyboards [19:23] righteous: you just have to know the magic words that will summon the demons from beyond ;-) [19:23] 'AMD contractor, can you do net 30'? [19:24] we are the minority people here... this should teach you not to buy the latest and gratest ;-) [19:25] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [19:25] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:25] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [19:26] any idea why http/ftp installs fail even though i have a working internet connection on the box, etc? says it can't get packages.txt [19:26] hrm. macavity ok now the process is gone.. and its in the /proc/mount but not mounted [19:26] militant: are you giving it the correct path? [19:26] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] shouldn't it simply be /slackware-13.0/slackware [19:27] skip the slackware/ part methinks [19:27] Have you tried variations? [19:27] gartt (~gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] i've tried a few http and ftp locations and variations on the path [19:28] All I can say is http/ftp/cifs installs work fine for me. [19:28] militant: if you setup the network, then it should work. What is the full HTTP URL? [19:28] http://slackware.mirrors.pair.com [19:28] packages.text is in slackware-13.0/ [19:28] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:29] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [19:29] militant: if you can do ftp: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [19:29] that works, and is fast [19:29] look at the contents....it's not all there http://slackware.mirrors.pair.com/slackware-13.0/ [19:29] ... [19:29] antiwire: i've tried a few servers [19:30] ok? [19:30] macavity: trying that one, and using 'slackware/slackware-13.0' no workie [19:30] macavity i found the error im getting with ndis on a gentoo forum, which also invovles the none functionality of b43 but not sure how im suppose to patch ntsokernel.h [19:30] seems like you've tried a few broken mirrors. OSUOSL has all the proper files... http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/ [19:31] militant: as i said *if you can do ftp* [19:31] macavity: haah nvm [19:31] http://slackware.mirrors.pair.com/slackware-13.0 is indeed a broken mirror [19:31] antiwire: that doesn't work either [19:31] macavity: i see your busy like shit ill bother you in a bit if you dont mind [19:31] macius: fantastic :-) [19:31] alienBOB: It should be safe to remove +q $~a now [19:31] macavity: the option is FTP/HTTP as a single option [19:31] militant: then you're doing something wring [19:31] alienBOB: if that CTCP crap starts up just use cmod +C to stop the channel wide CTCPs [19:32] macius: generally: patch -p0 < patchname.diff [19:32] antiwire: there isn't anything to do wrong. you just dhcpcd eth0 to get your network up, then go into ftp/http install option and set the server, then set the dir. *shrug* [19:32] macius: sometimes it is patch -p1 though [19:32] macius: it will bitch at you, but do no harm, if you pick the wrong -p level, so just try you way [19:33] militant: correct. it will only fail if you use an incomplete mirror [19:33] Eternal_Newbie (~andrew@cpc2-sout5-0-0-cust241.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: cheers [19:33] macavity: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2807437&group_id=93482&atid=604450 , all other solutions were ebuilds but wondering how i would do that [19:33] alienBOB: that's what i figure, but i've tried every mirror on the list including the ones you folks have tossed out [19:33] i can ping google.com and it finds the server, pings fine, etc [19:33] macavity: its a block of code so i got confused and no idea what to do [19:34] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:35] militant: http://slackware.osuosl.org with the path: /slackware-13.0/slackware should work [19:35] wheres the code? [19:35] just gonna do a fresh boot from the usb stick and try again. *Shrug* [19:35] got it [19:35] alienBOB: i have used that. but i did fiddle the ethernet up and down and so on before getting around to it, so gonna start fresh just in case [19:36] macius: copy that into a file and call it fix.diff [19:36] thats for kernel 31 tho i have 32 [19:36] macius: begin with the "---driver/........." part [19:36] i know.. i see what it does [19:36] just fyi and alright im on that [19:37] has anyone played with debian? [19:37] and this is -p1 [19:37] righteous: yeah.. i played with her.. then she cried and called the cops on me.. silly bitch [19:37] righteous: oh, you mean the distribution?.. yeah.. same storry ;-) [19:37] macavity: alright i copy it to the endif right? [19:38] macius: yes, and dont forget a newline at the end of the file [19:38] wait [19:38] macius: better take the all of it including the last comment [19:38] macavity: what kind of differences did you notice from slackware? [19:38] in terms of actually using the system [19:39] righteous: it treats you like a kid? [19:39] macius: untill the line below spinlocks */ [19:39] macavity: alright done, now what ?? [19:39] I'm pretty sure this wasn't meant to come across as flamebait but it sure will end with fire. [19:39] righteous: pretty much everything is different.. stuff in supid locations, headers split from the libs, lameness prevails [19:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-96-51.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] macius: cd to the driver/ dir [19:40] macavity: so you are saying when stuff broke it was a bigger pain in the ass to fix? [19:40] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] wish i could just telnet or ssh into the box to do the setup. i wanna lay in bed with laptop and let my girl draw on me [19:40] macius: patch -p0 < /path/to/where/you/put/fix.diff [19:41] righteous: stuff didnt break.. stuff overwrote my carefully handcrafted configs [19:41] macavity: oh. not cool. at all. [19:41] macavity: sorry what did you mean to the driver? [19:42] macius: the driver/ dir where ntoskernel.h is in [19:42] ah [19:42] oh, and its probably -p1 then [19:42] alienBOB: it worked this time. woot, thank you [19:42] i cant believe im actually considering changing distros over this radeon card thing. [19:43] oh... wait. it's only offering me the A set [19:43] righteous: oh, you will be right back :P [19:43] militant: you can ssh into the box and do a remote setup... [19:43] hm im trying to locate that on y system but its not being found [19:43] lol yeah, when someone fixes the oversight [19:44] and just be in that dir and it'll patch? dont need to do anything else? [19:44] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/remote-installation-of-slackware-using-ssh/ [19:44] militant: something went wrong if you only see the A set [19:44] v4nelle (~van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:44] hmmmmm obviously lol. i wonder what though. will tinker now [19:45] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Try not running dhcpcd eth0 but start setup right away. The installer will do the network config for you [19:45] id id that this time [19:45] macius: basically the patch just comments a version check, so if all else fails you can tweak it by hand [19:46] ...angry... [19:46] righteous: get ATI on the horn and tell them about it ;-) [19:46] i did [19:47] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) left irc: Changing host [19:47] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [19:47] guess what they said [19:47] "bwuahahahah"? [19:47] lol [19:47] "a deal is a deal, sucker!" in the nicest way I have ever heard. [19:47] alienBOB: all the mirrors i'm trying are working now, but all are only offering A set [19:48] macavity: alright i got output telling me cant find file to patch at input line 3 [19:48] How are you booting militant? Using a DVD or a USB stick? And what version ? [19:48] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:48] macius: did you try both -p0 and -p1? [19:49] macavity: i navigated to the dir and did: patch -p0 < /home/macius/Downloads/ndiswrapper/fix.diff [19:49] o ill try p1 [19:49] was confused since i though you mentioned that to someone else [19:49] usb stick, and whatever the newest is i'm assuming, since it came from the slack-13.0 dir on the osuosl.org mirror [19:49] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:50] alright got another problem with -p1 [19:50] ok, edit ntoskernel.h by hand [19:50] small error output a line so i can post it right? [19:50] patch: **** malformed patch at line 4: #define u64_low_32(x) ((u32)x) [19:50] so it looks like sumitn is wrong with the patch no? [19:50] yes [19:50] just edit it by hand [19:50] okay [19:51] go to roughly line 875 [19:51] yup [19:51] im there [19:51] find the "#if LINUX_VERSION....." line and add a // infront [19:51] hmmm found a usbboot.img that is a few days newer/larger, making a fresh stick now [19:51] go down to the #endif below and do the same [19:52] done [19:52] thats all the patch does... remove the check, so cmpxchg8b will always be defined [19:52] save, and recompile [19:54] macavity: hm im using the slackbuild right so anytime i reexecute it, it'll overwrite that ntoskernel file anyway [19:54] am i gonna have 'fun' getting my radeon hd 2600 running *well* ? [19:55] macius: then you will have to step over the slackbuild manually [19:55] macius: or, tar up the source ;-) [19:55] yeah i was thinking about jsut compilign sourse [19:55] alright will get on that [19:55] ty [19:55] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:55] macius: tar cvf ndiswrapper-exact-same-name.tar.gz * [19:55] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] macius: uff [19:56] macius: tar cvf ndiswrapper-exact-same-name.tar.gz the-dir-you-extracted-from-the-original/ [19:56] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Bored by the chore of saving face. [19:56] macius: and feed that to the slackbuild [19:57] macavity: it worked :) [19:57] macavity: ty [19:57] phantastic! you owe me 10.000 in monopoly money! [19:58] or an unused peice of bubble gum [19:58] * or a beer [19:58] your choice ;-) [19:58] mfillpot: i dont drink [19:58] All your monopoly money are belong to me. :) [19:58] macavity: wow someone in slackware irc that doesn't drink, you are one of a kind and well respected [19:59] I don't drink either. [19:59] :-) [19:59] macavity: we're a rare breed here I guess. :P [19:59] the fun part is that i dont drink because i am an alcoholic :P [20:00] whats your excuse feather brain? ;-) [20:00] lol [20:00] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:00] Simply, I choose not to. :) [20:00] \o mfillpot, how are you? [20:01] fire|bird: doing good, I've been laughing watching the locals around here react to a little snow [20:01] lol [20:01] where's 'here' [20:01] it's only 7 inches [20:01] norfolk, va usa... the last time they had this much snow was in the 80's [20:02] lulz [20:02] ahhh i'm going to va beach soon [20:02] why would you be coming out this way? [20:03] I am from denver where less than 4 feet won't slow anyone down [20:04] i have a date with a gorgeous redhead in va beach [20:04] militant: and where are you from? [20:05] ohio. she's an old friend of mine from when i lived in alexandria [20:05] ok, that makes it less strange [20:06] militant: are you actually done having problems with slackware today? [20:07] hell no [20:07] your nicknames are too similar. [20:07] my laptop is happy now, for the most part, but i'm trying to install ona desktop now with no optical drive ... [20:07] oh wait [20:07] militant: lol.. every time I have seen you on here for the last two days it has been once problem after another [20:07] it's now offering me all packages, not just A set [20:08] militant: do a usb install from ftp [20:08] mfillpot: that's what i've been doing, first it wasn't doing this, then it wasn't doing that, now it's looking good [20:08] militant: the hard part is putting in the ftp site and directory strings correctly [20:08] got it. it's doing the install now. woohoo [20:09] thumbs: I was here first so if people get confused then he can change his name [20:09] gonna take forever kuz i barely pull 400-500k/s off my wifi repeater, but that's fine [20:09] mfillpot: I agree [20:09] lol.. mfillpot it wasnt untill now i read your name right.. ive always read it as "milfpot" [20:09] militant: every install I have done in the past 2 years has been usb based reading from my local mirror [20:09] militant: what mirror are you using? [20:09] lulz.. dislexia sucks :P [20:09] lol i read it as milfpot for the first day i was here [20:10] macavity: you and many others in here a preverts and like reading the word milf [20:10] macavity: careful with the sucking, it could get you banned! [20:10] freudian perception :P [20:10] mfillpot: i have a dvd now for the laptop, the desktop has no working optical drive, and will be doing it from usb/ftp again on the netbook... sigh [20:10] adaptr: it is not the word but the context... [20:11] militant: if you are in the US use the tds.net mirror for all usb installs, it has a wide pipe [20:11] adaptr: i've been haning out here for years, and i have ever only received one warning for behaivour.. and that was totally justified as i *did* cross the line [20:11] macavity: I agree! [20:11] mfillpot: i tried to but it was one of those that i tried when the whole http/ftp install idea itself wasn't working [20:11] i'm using osuosl.org atm [20:11] militant: that one works, it just isn't as fast [20:12] however, stepping in and making snap decisions based on one line of context is not judgement - it's arbitrary [20:12] macius (~macius@i209-195-113-90.cia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:12] mfillpot: my wifi repeater only gives me a little bandwidth anyway so it's fine [20:12] and I think I'll typo him milfpot if only because it scans better [20:12] adaptr: honnestly i found your remark just a tad to graphic too.. in ##slackware-offtopic it would have been common place though :P [20:12] `Dante` (~dante@72.94.197.230) joined ##slackware. [20:13] militant: that sucks, I am picky about bandwidth because I always feel I have to fully use my 20M connection. Doing an install at 2.5MB/s is nice [20:13] adaptr: this channel is "family safe"... -offtopic is not ;-) [20:13] adaptr: I don't care what you all me, I just ignore what doesn't highlight in xchat [20:13] mfillpot: agreed. my cable was 12M listed, often clocked at 20-30M, but i had a disagreement with the cable co. so now i share a cable line with the neighbor (yes, with his knowledge) [20:13] urgh.. I permanently left #ubuntu when that became enforced policy [20:14] adaptr: you are an ubuntu reject? [20:14] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:14] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-84-176.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:14] mfillpot: a former ubuntu user, yes [20:14] although I must admit that that idiot savetheworld had much to do with that... it didn't surprise me in the least that he was later unstaffed for his demeanor in #ubuntu [20:14] adaptr: really, this channel *should* be a high quality support channel [20:15] mfillpot: not rejected.. self-averted [20:15] adaptr: who got unstaffed? [20:15] though, admittedly, lots of what goes on in here *should* go on in -offtopic :P [20:15] adaptr: I will keep that in mind [20:15] savetheworld, from #ubuntu [20:15] macavity: ##slackware-offtopic to be exact. ;) [20:15] adaptr: ah [20:15] he was on a righteous "mission" [20:15] fire|bird: i am lazy.. i only bothered to type it in full once :P [20:15] I hate that excuse [20:16] lol [20:16] wow, blackbox is much snappier than xfce. [20:16] I missed it. [20:16] thumbs: i think thats the point of blackbox :P [20:17] i can't use anything but e16 and a modified form of the gnome found on ubuntu [20:17] *shrug* [20:17] macavity: yeah, I know, I was trying out the new xfce on 13.0. But this box is too weak. [20:17] I am probably a lost cause, or possibly a usability ho' [20:17] what is that? a TI 98 pocket calculator? :P [20:17] I need the dragndrop stuff in KDE, for sanity [20:17] macavity: 512 MB RAM, apache, mysql, dnsmasq, pureftpd [20:18] on a Pentium S? [20:18] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:18] macavity: P3 933 Mhz [20:20] The-spiki (~spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [20:20] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:20] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] thumbs: uhm, what mobo is that? [20:21] eviljames: ping [20:21] eeh [20:21] can't wait to replace the athlon64 on this box with a quadcore [20:22] mmmmmmmmmmmMMMMmmm [20:22] macavity: ASUS with on-board UW160 SCSI [20:22] macavity: I can't recall the model number. [20:23] you have no recollection of that fact [20:23] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:23] thumbs: dmidecode [20:23] thumbs: its one of the top lines, so | less [20:23] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm done for now [20:24] ASUS CUSL2-LS [20:24] macavity: it's obviously no longer available, so why does it matter ? [20:24] macavity: thanks [20:24] righteous (~righteous@pool-72-65-104-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:24] yes, the CUSL2 was pretty good - is that a coppermine ? [20:24] adaptr: yes. [20:24] I had the non-SCSI one [20:24] with an 1233 [20:24] 1133 [20:24] bah [20:25] adaptr: i wanted to know if it was a coreboot supported board [20:25] hiptobecubic: I use godi which is a source-based package manager for ocaml [20:25] hiptobecubic: and no, it doesn't know that the module XYZ comes from xyz.cm(x)a because... it may not [20:25] macavity: doubt it [20:25] its not [20:25] Camarade_Tux, i'm talking to someone in #ocaml about it. SBo doesn't use GODI does it? [20:25] macavity: ah, well, there's about 2 dozen, right ? mostly tyans and supermicros, some MSis and gigabytes [20:25] hiptobecubic: no, it doesn't [20:26] adaptr: also a lot of asus boards [20:26] Camarade_Tux, you should arrange that :) being the resident slackware ocaml fiend. [20:26] hiptobecubic: godi has about 150 effective packages (or more), sbo has far less [20:26] hiptobecubic: I know, I know ;-) [20:26] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:26] just out of curiosity - because this is the fastest Linux machine I have - does slackbuilding support distcc ? [20:26] heya,folks [20:26] heya MLanden, how are you? [20:26] adaptr, distcc supports gcc, so yes [20:26] hiptobecubic: I'll try to improve that when I have some time and my new machine finally wired to the internet (which means "when I get electricity back" =) ) [20:27] yoyo MLanden [20:27] hiptobecubic: I think you mean the other way around, no ? [20:27] Camarade_Tux, well that would be great :D I'm using the SBo packages and not getting much working [20:27] adaptr: I think it only takes minor changes to the slackbuilds to distcc [20:27] relaxin' for the evening,fire|bird thanks...how is goin' for you? [20:27] adaptr, distcc calls gcc, not the other way around [20:27] MLanden: going great, thank you. :) [20:27] adaptr: actually, no, hiptobecubic put it theright way ;-) [20:27] heya,Camarade_Tux [20:27] hiptobecubic: true, but whatever your build system, you have to alias CC to distcc [20:28] adaptr, Camarade_Tux, if you do something tricky, like symlink gcc to distcc in your PATH it will be transparent [20:28] if that is not supported by the system (if it doesn't respect CC) then it has to offer direct distcc support [20:28] yeah, that could be nasty [20:28] uhm you rename the gcc binary and put distcc in its place and it becomes transparent [20:28] hiptobecubic: I know but it feels a bit dirty ;-) [20:28] adaptr, hold on, i have some scripts that help set things up. you can read them and see what i'm takling about. it's really very good. [20:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:29] macavity: and tell distcc to use a non-standard gcc.... [20:29] macavity: rather, create /opt/distcc/gcc and have it point to distcc :P [20:29] oh, and prepend /opt/distcc to PATH [20:29] or that yes [20:29] that would be slightly cleaner [20:29] less dirty but he :P [20:29] i like dirty :P [20:30] oh wait.. no, that was for another context [20:30] Action: adaptr slaps macavity [20:30] hehe :-p [20:30] time to go to bed for me :-) [20:30] lol [20:30] i say dirty, and Camarade_Tux wants his bed? [20:31] @_@ [20:31] lol [20:31] dirty Frenchmen. [20:31] yeah.. i bet that is why they put holes in their cheese... [20:32] adaptr, http://john.bitsurge.net/public/compile-system-config.tar.gz [20:32] that's disgusting. [20:32] France against Denmark in that situation...would hate to be Luxembourg....**OUCH**...lol [20:33] lol [20:33] hiptobecubic: thanks, will take a look [20:34] macavity: we were 7 in a bed a few minutes ago :-) [20:34] Camarade_Tux: pics or it didnt happen! [20:34] Camarade_Tux: 7? Man, what an orgy. [20:34] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:34] thumbs: family gathering. ;-) [20:34] macavity: unfortunately for you, noone wanted to get up and take a pic ;-) [20:34] BP{k}: bwahaha! [20:35] BP{k}: I've shown a pic you sent to the girl who was next to me, she was pretty impressed :P [20:35] endless (~endless@c-71-198-216-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:35] adaptr, so in /etc/profile.d i just put a link to the environment setup i want. dc+ (distcc and ccache) etc. The rest is transparent [20:35] Camarade_Tux: in light of the evidence that BP{k} has brought forth, i dont need any photografical proof ;-) [20:36] paul424 (~chatzilla@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [20:36] macavity: I thought you wanted to see my mom ='( [20:36] Action: BP{k} takes this to -offtopic. [20:36] good call [20:36] hiptobecubic: I'll look at it later, when I'm more...awake [20:36] adaptr, sure [20:41] macius (~macius@i209-195-119-192.cia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:06] sTarTx (~master@103.Red-81-34-159.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] macius (~macius@i209-195-119-192.cia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:07] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:07] anyone know if bitlbee supports Myspace & Facebook IM? I would ask in its channel, but it seems it is invite-only.... [21:07] sTarTx (master@103.Red-81-34-159.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware. [21:08] macius (~macius@i209-195-119-192.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:08] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:09] dchmelik: archlinux's wiki might have some info on that http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bitlbee [21:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-96-51.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:10] dchmelik: no. [21:10] MLanden, it seems to say nothing about it [21:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-96-51.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] I thought it supports one if you sign up for a site... but not both? [21:11] dchmelik: that's about the same as saying bitlbee supports twitter if you use their IM feature probably. [21:12] unless, facebook/myspace IM are based on XMPP/jabber ... [21:12] otherwise as the homepage states [imagine that!]: BitlBee currently supports the following IM networks/protocols: XMPP/Jabber (including Google Talk), MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger, AIM and ICQ [21:12] dchmelik: sorry 'bout that...thought they might have mentioned it [21:12] AcEg33k (1000@121.245.59.79) joined ##slackware. [21:12] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-237-37.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:13] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:19] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] cool we have 3 bobs in here [21:19] hi bob! [21:19] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-96-51.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:22] what 3 bobs? [21:23] cyb3r3li0g (~3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Changing host [21:23] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [21:24] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) left irc: Changing host [21:24] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [21:24] this is amazing, my health care has doubled since i've had it for 5 years. [21:25] hmmm during my initial slack install it said something about utf-8 and terminals. now some stuff on irc is garbage. anyone care to fill me in? [21:27] jeev: the *care*, or the premiums ? [21:27] premiums [21:27] thisis amazing [21:28] they just increased it 30% [21:32] militant: you need to set UTF8, you can either do that by setting $LANG in yoru shell start up scripts or set it globally in /etc/profile.d/lang.{c,}sh [21:32] so by the time i'm 50, i'll be paying $1600/m [21:32] for health care [21:32] heh [21:33] what a great country. [21:33] jeev: if you're not earning $500000 by then, you should quit life [21:33] BP{k}: done globally. thx [21:34] adaptr, im already earning 500 :) [21:34] almost there, then [21:34] thanks to the right wing kookoo's in this country who toss around the terms socialism, i hope they burn in hell cause they're too ignorant to live in this society. they ask you to stop hurting the health care companies and .. for what? the people complaining are so stupid they dont even have money and they're asking the others to stop picking on the rich [21:34] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:34] that's what i hate about americans, they live in trailer parks and ask us to stop complaining about poor health care practices [21:35] militant: you might have to log and such for it to make it take effect. [21:35] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:35] BP{k}: figured that. i have to reboot to windows frequently for skype with the fiancee, so it'll be good [21:35] right wing is Illuminati [21:35] no, that's the liberals [21:36] well, the Classical economic liberals [21:36] which are right-wing [21:36] jeev: heh, yeah. Giving the HMOs are competitor in the form of the Federal government would benefit everyone, but they just don't see that [21:36] what the lower right wing class doesn't realize is they're fighting the term "socialism" because they've been taught for government to stay out of big businesses but they're too ignorant to understand the big business is corrupt. [21:37] so the dumb shit right wing morons actually get upset when you want to tax health care and banks because they feel it's unamerican [21:37] amason6 (~amason6@nd-129-74-230-221.nat.nd.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:37] "dumb shit morons" is fine now ? [21:37] it just amazes me that those moron right wingers can be so stupid, they're poor as shit and they're still against cleaning up those big businesses [21:38] adaptr, whatcha mean [21:38] jeev: I will instruct staff to kick you, because I did not see any context [21:38] lol [21:38] touchy adaptr [21:38] no, righteous [21:38] what crawled up your keester and died [21:38] Action: ananke votes to vote jeev out [21:38] I could scream discrimination, and win [21:39] adaptr, you could only win if i called you a centos user [21:39] that's the ultimate insult [21:40] it just kills me to see these POOR people fighting with the rich companies.. because they're brainwashed to believe it's anti-american to want change in the way these businesses are run.. it's either ignorance or racism [21:40] when i mean fighting with, i mean along side. [21:40] go complain to -offtopic [21:42] do you think any of these morons even has decent care? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaxECcTjCuw [21:42] jeev: -offtopic. off you go. [21:42] have i meant [21:43] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:44] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:44] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:44] frigg is friggin' friggin' me [21:45] I do not think you are Odin [21:45] antiwire: it's freenodes utility bot which does ctcp version now, like freenode itself did before on the old ircd. [21:45] :P [21:45] antiwire: sik Loki on 'er...that'll put a stop of it..:D [21:45] I know [21:46] but actually seeing the ctcp on connect is annoying [21:46] antiwire: then don't complain, bend over and take your friggen from frigg. :P [21:46] I'll just move over to oftc [21:47] fire|bird: roger that...ermm,never mind..:D [21:47] antiwire: that happened on every connect on the old ircd too, nothing new, just a different nick that does it. [21:47] MLanden: haha [21:47] fire|bird: No. I did not receive a ctcp event everytime, previously. [21:47] antiwire: I did [21:47] I know I was scanned but I did not receive a ctcp notice each time. [21:47] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [21:48] Seems like some sort of a band-aid to a deeper rooted issue, imo. [21:50] askhader (~askhader@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. 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I did define ARCH as x86_64 btw->checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [21:54] paissad__ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:55] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] zalost (~keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:57] v4nelle (~van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:58] wescotte: last time i checked, grub1 cannot be compiled for x86_64 [21:58] there is a possibility that grub won't build on that ARCH [ie if it would, pat would probably have included it in slackware64. [21:58] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] heya,mfillpot [22:00] MLanden: how to you like the snow? [22:00] why is #slackware invite only? [22:00] mfillpot, they're using ##slackware [22:00] i dont know why they'd have two channels open.. [22:01] hmm that used to be forwarded to ## [22:01] MLanden: how many inches are there out by you? [22:01] mfillpot: just the time of the season...nothin' really to say about it...you? [22:02] maybe they're getting ready to 2012.. :) [22:02] ananke, ah wasn't aware of that.. can I just use the i486 package then I assume? [22:02] if the main channel full of is this from an issue? [22:02] MLanden: I am enjoying watching everyone crawl around in a few inches [22:02] mfillpot: ? [22:02] I'm going with my good friend to a paintball field next weekend and we are bringing 16 of his girlfriend's friends who are all new to the US [22:03] it's going to be great. [22:03] mfillpot: 'bout 4- 5 inches..you? [22:03] anyone have a rather decent system with 'kvm' as YES into the kern? which is default in slack 64.. [22:03] MLanden: 6-8 [22:03] I have a decent system with KVM support. [22:04] core 2 duo with all KVM options enabled for guests. [22:04] I even have block access working [22:04] ananke: how did your area of Virginia fare from the snow? [22:05] ah, we have another in the state [22:05] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:05] hoobop (user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [22:05] MLanden: we got about 10" [22:06] all between 9pm last night and this morning [22:06] I want 4'-5' [22:06] although to be honest, it feels like we got more than that [22:06] mfillpot: lol...you a tall man? [22:07] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin [22:08] MLanden: I'm only 6', but I am used to a lot more snow [22:08] think 'round Raleigh and Greensboro down in North Carolina got the worst of it [22:09] what sucks is that we'll have 9F tonight [22:09] nothing like those crisp clear nights lol [22:10] michiel (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [22:10] mfillpot: think you mentioned that once before..Colorado or Wyoming? [22:10] michiel (michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left ##slackware. [22:10] MLanden: yeah co, I wouldn't have a problem driving around in the snow here, but the people are what make it hazardous [22:11] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] mfillpot: roads and people aren't used to it [22:11] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:12] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] AcEg33k (1000@121.245.59.79) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:14] hopefully they will call work on monday for it [22:15] ananke: will truly be some cold nights for the week [22:16] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:18] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:19] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [22:19] think the worst snow I can remember in Eastern Virginia was when I was young in '78 from the blizzard that happened that year [22:20] heh '78 [22:20] i wasn't even alive [22:21] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [22:23] does anyone in here play with sysctl? [22:23] mfillpot: that's a very vague question [22:24] I play with echo and /sys [22:24] it's like asking if anybody here 'plays with linux', since that's what sysctl is: a gateway to your kernel [22:25] I've also been known to have flings with echo and proc [22:25] * does anyone play with sysctl to manually modify the parameters? [22:25] but you know... [22:25] ananke: guess that's better than fighting with linux..:P [22:25] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:25] mfillpot: manually, versus what? [22:26] i fight with linux daily. it's never a good relationship but the sex is too good to give up [22:26] ananke: versus leaving it the way pat intended [22:26] mfillpot: it's not just what pat intended, but what kernel developers set as defaults, or what the kernel automagically sets based on your hardware [22:27] mfillpot: seriously, asking such a meta question won't give you any decent answers [22:28] ananke: I have been looking into using sysctl to reset parameters since looking at alienbob's firewall generator and am curious if there are any other parameter that can safely be tweaked [22:28] militant: will leave that bit of tmi with you and your i/o ports...(X_X) [22:28] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin [22:28] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:28] there are 1.21 jigamillion parameters in /sys that can be tweaked. [22:28] MLanden: good decision. it gets pretty vulgar sometimes [22:28] start reading [22:28] militant (~militant@173-81-61-101-pkbg.atw.dyn.suddenlink.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:28] i was estimating 2.47 gabzillions [22:29] and that of course depends on what you load in your kernel [22:29] militant (~militant@173.81.61.101) joined ##slackware. [22:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:29] mfillpot: your question is akin to asking 'hey, does anybody change settings on their computer? which ones are safe to change?' [22:29] For example, I wrote a script that uses /sys and lets me warm swap SATA disks. [22:30] I have the ipsysctl-tutorial.pdf from the developer site and have been poking around it but not changing anything yet [22:30] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:30] antiwire, what's the purpose of the warmup (and yes, it's probably a dumb question)? [22:30] I say warm swap because not all controllers/drivers support hot swapping. [22:30] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [22:30] Warm swap as in, I must first run the script. [22:31] ah [22:31] i've yet to risk a hot swap [22:31] i'm afraid i'll dink everything in sight [22:32] so the script "stops" the drive? [22:32] shonudo: with a sizzle and pop? [22:32] dude [22:32] unless the chipset's driver supports hotswapping, you're better off using a script to sync the FS and disable the disks interface first. [22:32] sizzle, pop, and SMOKE [22:32] antiwire, makes sense (thanks for the info) [22:33] so the next time you connect the drive, you still have partitions and data... [22:33] The SATA physical specification supports hot swapping. The issues show up at the driver level though. [22:33] shonudo: gotcha [22:33] is that the idea? [22:33] shonudo: yes. [22:33] I have been reading about it but being cautious. Now if I screw something up it should reset on boot, right? [22:34] darylc (~darylc@166.205.136.88) joined ##slackware. [22:34] darylc (~darylc@166.205.136.88) left irc: Changing host [22:34] darylc (~darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) joined ##slackware. [22:34] mfillpot: depends on whether you saved the values to /etc/sysctl.conf ornot [22:34] ananke: that is what I was assuming. I don't plan to add anything to the conf unless they have been tested [22:34] ty [22:35] If you inspect the pins of a SATA power and data cable you'll see that some pins are longer than others. That is to allow ground lines to link before data lines. All of the problems beyond the physical connections end up happening at the driver level, which I'd guess would be L2? [22:35] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-124.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:35] darylc (~darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Client Quit [22:36] and again, sysctl is nothing more than a tool for 'changing kernel settings'. there are a _lot_ of kernel settings [22:37] ananke: I have seen alot of those settings and that is what is making it so intimidating [22:38] mfillpot: and a large number of them are unrelated to each other [22:39] ananke: right now I am focused on the networking settings, I am hoping to learn enough to give a presentation that includes how to use the setting to reinforce the firewall at my LUG meeting. [22:41] objects with sysfs interfaces are usually documented either in the source code or kernel docs [22:42] mfillpot: best way to 'reinforce' your firewall is to not open it to services you don't use [22:43] the rest of this stuff isn't that important or useful [22:44] ananke: unless you are running forwarding or masquerading [22:45] yeah, which doesn't fall under the 'enforcing the firewall' subject [22:45] ananke: it depends the need of the user [22:46] zalost (~keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] zalost (keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [22:46] sure, if you take into account extreme corner cases. for most people - they don't matter [22:48] you mean the desktop users, my LUG consists of desktop users, corporate admins/engineers, etc.. I want to give them enough information to motivate them to research further [22:49] kitche (kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Changing host [22:49] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:50] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:51] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:54] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-62-186.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm done for now [23:00] macavity (~macavity@212088073003.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [23:04] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:06] limac (~chatzilla@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:07] gm152 (~glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] i'm guessing the ssh default on slackware doesn't enable X11 forwarding? [23:09] call it with -X [23:09] macius (~macius@i209-195-119-192.cia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:09] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [23:09] your client that is [23:10] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [23:10] can't open display [23:10] Did you check the sshd config yet? [23:10] i'm unfamiliar with x forwarding, so i'm just making stabs [23:11] It's usually best practice to check the configs if you have a question. If, after checking the configuration files, you still have a question then ask. [23:11] nod [23:12] uncomment the config file's line aobut forwarding, change the no to yes, and restart sshd i figure [23:12] Probably something like that, yes. [23:13] MrZhi (~zhizaki@24-155-241-242.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] maybe around line 91? [23:13] in sshd_config [23:14] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:15] yep had that done. let's try it out now... [23:15] invalid magic cookie... google here i come [23:16] hmm.. i dont remember doing that... sorry for the -X confusion :P [23:16] sluttyduck (~slut@74.83.14.147) joined ##slackware. [23:16] -X is how i thought it worked for years but never had reason to use it to find out :) [23:16] you might need -Y [23:17] -Y works, thank you [23:18] now i'm curious, if i wanted to have an app running on a box 24/7 and be able to pull it up on any of my machines... ? [23:19] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [23:19] I don't know a complete answer to that but screen might be useful. [23:19] i figured screen yes, i use it all the time for text mode stuff. [23:20] will do some research [23:20] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:20] if it is textmode only screen will fit the bill [23:20] I use -Y all the time with conky to keep an eye on my firewall. [23:20] if you need X, then nx from nomachine allows you to detach sessions [23:21] yeah. god forbid martians would be trying to hax0r you [23:21] ok.. time to break down.. tonights hack session was a total failure [23:22] macavity: i use screen extensively. but i'm thinking about things like pidgin, so i don't have to relog every time i switch computers (which is frequent) [23:22] k.. i have no clue.. i only have one computer :-/ [23:22] militant: nx [23:23] checking now [23:23] x11vnc is nice also. [23:23] except that it involves vnc [23:23] why does this segfault: http://pastebin.ca/1772728 [23:23] i also use vnc for full GUI porting but sometimes it'd be handy to do just a single app [23:24] basically i am a lazy bastard who sits in bed with a laptop and has a rack of towers on my table 10 feet away. it sucks going over there to do stuff [23:24] heh [23:24] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:25] if i had a whole rack of towers i would probably go crazy with a soldering iron and a laundry list of mad hax :P [23:25] lol that's the plan eventually. [23:26] i was plenty technical for years, but the several years i've been too busy with other things and content to just be a user [23:26] now i'm trying to remember/relearn the things i used to know, catch up with what's changed, and find neat things to do with all of it [23:26] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:27] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:31] militant, I feel the same way, but there is much more things to learn nowadays it seems like [23:31] confusid (~confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] wow updating to -current on a netbook with a slow SSD is painfully slow [23:32] Delahunt, certainly not slower then an HD [23:33] oh yes, definitely slower [23:33] You can Fedex me that SSD and I'll send you back a 5400RPM 120GB SATA 2.5" disk [23:33] i'll run the numbers with hdparm in a minute [23:33] no, like mini PCIe netbook mini-card SSD [23:33] like a computer chip [23:33] i got a better offer, 7200 200gb. deal? [23:33] heh [23:33] hold on, here comes the numbers [23:33] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:33] hdparm -tT /dev/sda results: [23:34] Cached reads 475MB/sec buffered reads 37MB/sec [23:34] but write performance isn't mentioned [23:34] >.< [23:34] Timing cached reads: 2138 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1069.39 MB/sec && Timing buffered disk reads: 232 MB in 3.01 seconds = 76.97 MB/sec [23:35] That's a 7200 2.5" SATA disk with 16MB buffer [23:35] confusid: How much snow fell in your area? 'bout 5-8 inches here for me in Suffolk/Chesapeake [23:35] This is what I put in my laptop: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=482 [23:36] d if=/dev/zero of=/randomfile.txt bs=512 count=12 [23:36] MLanden, about the same [23:36] 17.2 MB/sec [23:36] Lot of ice though [23:36] d if=/dev/zero of=/randomfile.txt bs=512 count=128 [23:36] 24.1MB/sec [23:36] s/d if/dd if/ [23:36] 65536 bytes (66 kB) copied, 0.00122851 s, 53.3 MB/s [23:36] dd if=/dev/zero of=/randomfile.txt bs=512 count=1024 25.2MB/sec [23:37] uhmm, that's a bogus test [23:37] what'd i do wrong? [23:37] It's a fake test [23:37] macavity (~macavity@212088073003.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:37] because it's not raw writing. [23:37] you allow the fs to cache [23:37] confusid: yeah,it is cold one alright [23:37] you can either have dd sync after the operation, or tell it to write directly without allowing to cache [23:37] MLanden, 30 min drive took me almost 3.5 hours [23:38] lot of back roads [23:38] conv=fsync or conv=direct will do it [23:38] time (dd if=/dev/zero of=/randomfile.txt bs=512 count=1024 25.2MB/sec && sync) took 0.910 seconds [23:39] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [23:39] just add 'conv=fsync' to the dd line [23:39] 0.5MB/sec write then i would think [23:39] ananke, k thanks [23:39] 1.4MB/sec [23:39] bs=512 count=10240 yields 4.3MB/sec [23:39] That forces it through the whole stack [23:39] confusid: 'bout the same here...bein' it Saturday had nowhere more than a few miles to go [23:40] indeed, but the stack would be faster than the device itself [unless we're talking some ancient machine] [23:40] let's just say that i started the conversion from slackware 13 (and rather trimmed down) to -current using a USB stick in the parking lot before going to the bank, going to the grocery store, and going home, so it probably took about an hour [23:40] alternatively, oflag=direct [23:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:41] egh, i'm done fiddling with this stuff for the night. [23:41] bs=512 count=10240 oflag=direct yields 281kb/sec [23:42] i plan on getting a 32gb upgrade that will be the lowest latency (highest speed) available for about $120 [23:42] Delahunt: why are you using block size of 512 anyway? [23:42] i had to get a netbook for work. like *immediately* and didn't have time to wait for a delivery. [23:42] the local shops only had those with regular hdd's, and only hp mini's [23:43] Delahunt: try bs=4k or 8k. you'll see a big difference [23:43] ananke, just habit i guess. i'll run it with 4k and 8k [23:43] bad habit. i suggest changing it [23:43] i rarely use dd 8-) [23:43] so i'm stuck with a crap atom n270 and 7200rpm 160gb on a netbook i just don't like [23:44] bs=4096 count=10240 oflag=direct yields 1.5MB/sec [23:44] militant: acer aspire one? [23:44] militant, the atom isn't krap if you use it as it was intended [23:44] (i.e. for saving power, not raw performance) [23:44] Delahunt: see the difference? :) [23:44] ananke, yes 8-) [23:46] BP{k}: i wanted an aspire one. i ended up with an hp mini 110. the aspire one at least has a flush battery [23:46] Delahunt: my netbook is slower than moses [23:46] Delahunt: pretty much anything below 2k will yield you very poor performance, and from my experience 4k is good enough. beyond that, you don't get much more speedup. i tend to use bs=1M [23:46] bs=8192 count=10240 oflag=direct yields 2.1MB/sec [23:48] militant, it wasn't meant to be fast [23:48] no, but jeez. my brother got an aspire one for xmas and it's noticeably faster, supposedly nearly identical hardware [23:48] he won't trade me either, smart for a 15yo [23:49] militant, um ok then what hardware differences are there? [23:50] or maybe he knows how to set it up correctly :) [23:50] ananke: i did his UNR setup :) [23:50] if his came with windows and you're using linux don't bother [23:50] his will be slow in a month [23:51] only difference is the hdd size, really. everything else is identical specs (but obviously likely to be different manufacturers per component) [23:52] ananke, btw what is a good setting for KB/sec for xfce network plugin for g wireless systems using WPA2? (i.e. fair max in/out for the graphical representation) i was going to use 6,591KB/sec [23:52] to be honest, i've never bothered to check [23:53] you mrtg, it's not WM/DE dependent [23:53] use* [23:54] piffey (~pfe@adsl-69-227-137-30.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] i did talk HP out of a new charger and battery last night though. some jerk ganked my charger when we had a 360 party here and my battery's been losing ground anyway [23:54] i guess 1024 (GB/sec) would be fair [23:55] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [23:55] G isn't specified anywhere near 1GB/s [23:55] er 1MB/sec sorry [23:55] I have a monolithic kernel running from a boot disc of mine (meaning no module support). how can I tell which of the built-in drivers grabbed the sata controller? [23:56] retsudo (~retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [23:56] mishehu, dmesg | less [23:56] ? [23:57] mishehu, why not (if building a monolithic kernel) make the right driver <*> and the other ones ? [23:57] wifi G for me: [ 3] 0.0-10.4 sec 19.1 MBytes 15.5 Mbits/sec [23:57] antiwire, where'd you get that? [23:57] wrt54g2 [23:58] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [23:58] sorry I am kind of out of it. I should have thought to do dmesg [23:58] hi guys [23:58] eldragon, hi [23:59] Here is my gigabit network: [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 1010 MBytes 847 Mbits/sec [23:59] what's odd here is my board shows up as having an nvidia mcp79 sata controller, yet the AHCI driver is what initializes the device [23:59] i think that lzip-1.9 is more reasonable than xz for every packages, lzip has its clean format's spec, and the src code of lzip is 10% of xz, e.g. lzip has CRC32 and 64-bit filesize and the filters are justly unnecessary for non distinguishable ratio. [23:59] I make those tests using iperf between a local server and my laptop with has wifi G and gigabit. [23:59] mishehu, um isn't AHCI the class of the device, i.e. you see AHCI and the other entries under it are indented? [23:59] i use lzip -9 everywhere [00:00] --- Sun Jan 31 2010