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[00:52] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:54] There's one thing you never put in a trap, if you're smart, if you value your continued existence, if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow, there's one thing you never, ever put in a trap...ME. [00:54] oh,crap [00:54] hello, Doctor [00:55] lol, ok, well... [00:55] someone got it [00:55] sorry, had something highlighted and pressed middle button accidently [00:57] well, just dont blink [01:04] O.O [01:06] -.- [01:10] rworkman: you're dead [01:11] meh...it only smells that way...;) [01:11] Sorry, I have gas. [01:11] sorry...couldn't resist..;*) [01:11] no more rats and no more roaches, living next door to football coaches [01:12] MLanden: my wife would agree. I ran her off the couch earlier. [01:12] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:12] grazymax (~grazymax@host113-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:13] rworkman, that's nothing. everyone i know has a 100 yard restraining order, if we're in a place with weak ventalation, then it's 500 yard [01:13] haha [01:13] OH SHIT [01:13] hottttttt assssss weather girl [01:13] That's why [01:13] rworkman: lol...spicy enchilladas?....does it all the time [01:13] oh my god [01:13] MLanden: no, probably all the steaks :) [01:14] rworkman: hear ya.......BEEF!! [01:14] her pics online are terrible, wow [01:14] gorgeous [01:15] hey rworkman, i've got a followup on that neomagic x11 driver issue [01:16] new libpciaccess (last week), new x-v-neomagic (a few weeks ago), and everything works beautifully. [01:16] bump versions please? [01:17] daniel__ (~daniel@rrcs-64-183-28-201.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:19] rworkman: upstream says 4 weeks http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-neomagic/ [01:19] 1.2.5 [01:20] no [01:20] Evelyn Taft [01:20] jackie johnson is ok [01:20] that's a terrible photo of jackie johnson too, jackie is fucking hot [01:20] and evelyn taft online pictures blow, i guess she moved from the bay area, she's new [01:20] she's wearing a hot ass blacck skirt thingy oh my [01:21] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:21] int0xmax (~seven@117.199.161.227) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:22] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [01:22] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:22] when it's online, i['ll show it to youm, probably tonight or tomorrow [01:22] WhiteSnow (x@cpe-66-66-164-165.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:22] where do i download slackware.exe? [01:23] download.com [01:23] all the websites just have this weird "ico" or whatever [01:23] MLanden, this is jackie johnson: http://cbs2.com/Link.ashx?R=http%3a%2f%2fcbs2.com%2fvideo%2f%3fid%3d140380%40kcbs.dayport.com http://cbs2.com/Link.ashx?R=http%3a%2f%2fcbs2.com%2fvideo%2f%3fid%3d140299%40kcbs.dayport.com [01:24] http://cbs2.com/Link.ashx?R=http%3a%2f%2fcbs2.com%2fvideo%2f%3fid%3d140215%40kcbs.dayport.com [01:24] WhiteSnow: troll fail. just an fyi [01:24] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:24] jdetring: http://connie.slackware.com/~rworkman/xorg-1.8/ has everything but the new neomagic driver; I somehow missed that. I'll get it asap [01:24] jrt05 (~jason@c-98-196-24-103.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:25] (but see the NOTES file before you go upgrading stuff in there) [01:25] rworkman: cool! thanks bunches! [01:25] jeev: ok...who's got Evelyn? [01:25] WhiteSnow: add "epic" to alphageek's comment. [01:26] grazymax (~grazymax@host128-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:26] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.91) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:26] th8is is the first time i've ever seen her [01:27] i'm sure they'll put it tonight or tomorrow [01:27] slackware doesn't run under windows? why, i've been misled [01:28] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.106) joined ##slackware. [01:32] jeev: ok...see that it is KCAL....hmmm...lucky bast'd...>:) [01:34] dood this girl is wearing a hot looking outfit, looks like she has nice tits and sick ass legs [01:34] damnit [01:35] you could get Slackware to run under Windows. [01:35] but who would want to? [01:36] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-232-81-245.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:38] Nick change: Yandertal_exit -> Yandertal_away [01:38] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:38] Yandertal_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [01:38] ha [01:39] now he's really away, i think thats quite helpful [01:41] hey Skywise [01:41] evenin [01:41] [firestarter] (~paulo@189.27.226.175.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:42] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:43] hrm [01:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. 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[02:05] ;( [02:05] are the speeds stable [02:06] Yes [02:06] LeckMichImArsch (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:07] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:07] lucky bastage [02:08] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:08] stormtra1knole (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4541, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-07-27 04:39:13 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:09] it's "lucky bastiche" :) [02:09] stormtra1knole (stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) left ##slackware. [02:13] hrmm [02:13] i have fios in my area [02:14] but the downpayment is expensive [02:14] actually.. [02:15] it's fios - what did you expect of "new" technology for the masses? [02:15] no i have att U-verse [02:16] in the area [02:16] well the advantage that i see in fios is.. almsot no data latency, extremely low ping times [02:16] perfect for lossless hq video transfer [02:17] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] stormtracknole (stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) left ##slackware. [02:17] KyNDeR (1000@189.63.64.26) joined ##slackware. [02:18] and even more perfect for gamers [02:18] quake arena sounds good for that :) [02:18] yeah i know :) :) [02:19] real time [02:19] instant sniping [02:20] heh [02:20] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] the person gets fragged the millisecond you release the mouse button [02:20] ...thats crazy [02:21] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-25-245.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:21] dude try imagining that [02:21] urbanterror should get better on those points... [02:24] and a step ahead for video conferencing [02:24] no more low quality video feeds.. [02:25] you can have high quality feeds with no annoying half second delay [02:25] happy sysadmin day! [02:25] because the peers are connected directly to your computer (because you have the bandwidth) and not through a main server [02:26] tewmten: fuck you [02:26] Action: Alan_Hicks is not a happy sysadmin today. [02:26] ? [02:28] aaaaaw [02:28] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:28] someone hasn't been LARTing their users enough ;) [02:30] Yeah well, this some one was a luser today, so no LARTing for me. [02:31] ..but its amazing how the rate of technological evolution has slowed down [02:31] daniel__: huh? [02:33] technology used to evolve very fast [02:33] like in the 90s [02:33] but now it just takes longer and longer [02:34] heh. [02:36] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-200.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:38] MLanden, http://cbs2.com/video/?id=140449@kcbs.dayport.com <- enjoy [02:41] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:42] jeev: dammit [02:44] ? [02:44] im sure your weather girls are pretty hot too [02:44] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:45] niiiiiicee... [02:45] i'd like to have sex with her, if you know what i mean.. ;) [02:46] tewmten, she's the new weather girl, cant watch to watch kcal9 every night. [02:46] and by sex, do you mean 3 minutes of intercourse and that's it ? [02:46] you know, the old in 'n' out love [02:46] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D50BA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:47] to the William Tell Overture [02:47] I'd make that unusuable for everyone else. [02:48] go on.. [02:48] rworkman, that's what we all say.. until we jizz and then can't go n [02:48] on [02:48] "We" don't have that problem. [02:48] "we" all do! [02:48] well it's been a long ass time for me since so........... :/ [02:49] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [02:49] Everything is relative. Some of us measure that in hours or days, while some measure it in weeks, months, or years :D [02:49] :> [02:50] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-41-198.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:50] jdetring: http://connie.slackware.com/~rworkman/xorg-1.8/ has the stuff you need now :) [02:55] jeev: nah...one's they have here for weather are mundane(not a major market here) [02:56] kornerr: yes I saw your messages, but your story is so vague that I can not comment on it. If a program would work on Slackware 13.1 (32-bit) but it does not run on Slackware 13.1 (64-bit with multilib) then that is not the fault of multilib... most likely you are missing one or more libraries that are not installed with the set of multilib "-compat32" packages. 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[03:39] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [03:39] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:42] alienBOB: no. it's a 64-bit app. and it works *only* on Slackware and only on the version where i compiled it. the version i compiled at 13.0 with multilib does not work on 13.1 with multilib. whereas if i compile on 13.0 without multilib it works fine on 13.1 without multilib. [03:42] archcezar (1000@acvz227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:44] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.212.165) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Could someone with knowledge on packages (specificaly flash plugin 64 bit) please help me troubleshoot not being able to install it [03:45] get the .so and put it into ~/.mozilla/plugins. restart web browser. that's all [03:45] kornerr, I have that already from a previous install. I also would prefer to have it as a slackware pacckage if I can [03:46] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:46] archceza1 (1000@acwj146.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:46] why bother. it's ~ [03:46] if it's ~. [03:49] john_dee (~id@93-81-3-247.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Nick change: john_dee -> happy_dee [03:49] Ok, I will add it now [03:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [03:51] ouyuu (~hpo3@114.102.25.78) left irc: Quit: ‚» [03:51] Would there be any reason why every aplication I try and start... doesn't start? [03:52] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.212.165) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:52] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [03:53] rirombo (~rirombo@h146.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [03:56] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.212.165) joined ##slackware. [03:56] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:56] kornerr, I have added the libflashplayer.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins but it still doesn't work [03:57] is it the 32-bit lib? [03:57] ooops [03:57] the 64-bit one, i mean [03:57] Yeah I have added the 64 bit one [03:57] kornerr: what is your definition of "does not work" ? Do you see errors when starting the app from a terminal commandline? What _is_ the app? Did you run "ldd" on its binaries (and/or libraries) to see if anything is missing? [03:58] can't find -lbluetooth [03:58] any ideas? [03:58] alienBOB, I think that may have been aimed at me. I have added the .so file the location you mentioned before but when I go to use youtube to test that it is working it tells me that I do not have a flash player installed and the video section is blank. [03:59] trcan't compile anything that checks for -lbluetooth [03:59] alienBOB: does not work = my app crashes with SIGSEGV at /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-slackware-linux/4.4.4/../../../../include/c++/4.4.4/bits/stl_tree.h:985 while (__x != 0) [04:00] ldd is fine. [04:00] my app uses OGRE, CEGUI, OIS, OpenAL, ALURE to be concrete. [04:01] and this has smth to do when OGRE allocates memory. but it happens only on multilib slackware. [04:02] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:05] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.212.165) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:06] I'm requesting help on compiling programs that require -lbluetooth [04:06] it's not found but libbluetooth is [04:07] can't be [04:08] you don't have your libbluetooth in ld.so.conf? [04:08] kornerr: that does indeed sound like some incompatibility in either gcc or glibc in Slackware 13.1 [04:08] yeah. [04:08] without multilib it works fine. [04:09] is there some easy way to make slackware multilib, but with separate libs for 32 and 64 of glibc/gcc unlike single one now? [04:09] so that i could test it [04:09] yeah, im gonna have upgrade to 13.1 [04:09] Cann0n: -lbluetooth = link libbluetooth [04:10] You'd have to modify the SlackBuild scripts for gcc and glibc, and split off the 32-bit binaries into their own packages kornerr [04:10] i.e. -lblah = link to libblah [04:10] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-166-118.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:10] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [04:10] alienBOB: can you point me to some docs about it? i have vague understanding of the topic [04:11] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-166-118.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] thanks. i wasn't aware what -lblah was [04:12] alienBOB: you got vlc-1.1.2 done yet? ;-) [04:12] after reading the logs, i realized i'll probably fix it by updating. i'm on dial'up so i decided to get a second opinion [04:13] Cann0n: well, depends on whether it wants bluez3 or bluez4 [04:13] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [04:13] hey gys [04:13] gys is ambiguous ;P [04:14] say the latest snapshots of MPlayer are using Yasm but you can compile without it, you think it's good to use it? [04:14] ooops missed the U [04:14] LOL [04:14] HEY GUYS :) [04:14] Xgates, depends. Does it work? [04:15] I don't know I don't have yasm built [04:15] yeah blue4 [04:15] so was wondering if I should compile and install it and compile MPlayer against if it's a better way to go [04:16] well *if* it builds and plays movies then I guess it's ok [04:16] BUT is it good or needed that's a biggie cause I don't want Yasm unless it's a benefit [04:16] Xgates: always good to have yasm for assembly down the road [04:16] just wondering, on multilib, would i want to put /usr/lib in ld.so.conf? [04:16] don't think yasm will affect much except the compilation (I may be wrong) [04:16] MLanden: ok, why then doesn't Slackware have it? [04:17] Why are you trying to build mplayer anyway? It's in Slackware. [04:17] Xgates: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=yasm&sv=13.1 [04:17] slackware has nasm [04:17] I want the latest snapshot I'm using smplayer with it no gmplayer, wanted a gui for it [04:18] yeah I know slack has nasm [04:18] probably not a great reason to add it yet, wait until pat needs it to build mplayer perhaps, then he may add it. [04:18] so didn't know if that's the way to stick with and no compile against yasm in the latest snap [04:19] well I'm not waiting on Pat hehe when I can build my own... [04:19] ffmpeg wants it, too [04:19] (iirc) [04:19] but I can't say I know if using Yasm is a plus or not with it [04:20] if you want to use imagemagick for mpeg's you'd want yasm [04:20] well if mplayer wants it, may as well give it it [04:20] I don't use imagemagick or ffmpeg [04:20] well it's suppose to help with the instruction set isn't it? [04:21] I mean I thought it's suppose to be more up to date over nasm [04:21] it may well take advantage of extra instructions [04:21] well it's suppose to be a rewrite of Nasm [04:22] I would install it. [04:22] yeah I'm going to use it... [04:26] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:27] boy Slackbuilds.org better never disappear is all I can say [04:28] LOL [04:28] rworkman: after talking to the vlc developers I decided not to build vlc-1.1.2 for the moment. There are no Linux related changes except for some DVB fixes. And I need the build box to compile KDEE 4.5.0 [04:28] so nice for something like this Yasm that I don't have to whip up my own [04:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [04:28] Works for me; thanks [04:28] but I did have to hack up Pat's slackbuild a bit for the mplayer snapshot [04:29] I think I used rworkman's [04:29] speaking of VLC boy since the 1.x versions have come out they don't seem to like me, I've seen so much video skipping/stuttering in all my life with VLC [04:29] seems like for me at least 0.8x was better playing [04:32] OH for anyone into wanting QT styles without KDE let me know I got two built into packs. man what a PAIN in the rear trying to get QT only styles :/ [04:32] bespin-svn-072910-i486-1_sar.tgz [04:32] phase-1.0-i486-1_sar.tgz [04:32] rworkman: yeah with VLC 1.1.2,no major changes...no issues during building it [04:33] And FYI Slackware64 has a yasm package in /extra ... [04:33] I've never built vlc, and I don't plan to do so as long as alienBOB does it :) [04:33] I'm on x86 [04:33] knuckles (~gtklocker@unaffiliated/gtklocker) joined ##slackware. [04:33] ahhh let me check extra for that too [04:33] thanks [04:34] nope not in x86 [04:34] Guys do you know where the Greek slackware channel is? [04:34] rworkman: ok [04:35] knuckles: what cause we a know speaka Greek you know Love us? LOL [04:35] we a no.... [04:38] hey I just found out today they have a tint designed for glasses just for computer users [04:39] I'm going to get that tint added to my reading glasses while using my box :) [04:40] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:55] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:57] alienBob you still around? [04:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:01] Xgates: the SlackBuild script for MPlayer does not enforce CFLAGS but instead lets the software find out run-time how to make good use of the CPU (hence the "--enable-runtime-cpudetection") [05:02] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [05:02] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.195) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:03] yea that I know my bad I mean for -march= should we change that or the -mtune= is just going to over ride it? [05:03] I didn't know for my amd if -march=k8 would be of any benefit on mplayer [05:04] trux_ (~trux@89.126.5.162) joined ##slackware. [05:06] alienBob so should I just leave it all alone and don't worry about the -march=i486? [05:10] Xgates, for k8, your benefit will be slackware64. anything else will not influence much. [05:10] oh yeah hehe [05:10] my bad [05:10] but yeah, you may optimize with mtune=k8 and march=k8, but the package will only work on an amd64+ box. [05:11] yeah wasn't thinking there ;p [05:11] but I was wondering if it was better to have i688 on it instead of i486 or it's not going to matter with the --enable-runtime-cpudetection [05:17] ouyuu (~hpo3@114.102.25.78) joined ##slackware. [05:17] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:18] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [05:18] i688 will for sure be better [05:19] (on a serious note, no, it won't be noticeable). [05:24] ok, well can't seem to figure the build script to even let me pick it as i686 I think the --enable-runtime-cpudetection is over riding eveything [05:25] Xgates, do something useful. [05:25] you are spending valuable time on stuff that does not matter. [05:26] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [05:29] it's 11pm no need for useful it's PLAY TIME :) [05:29] LOL [05:30] Morn [05:30] alienBOB: ping - privmsg? [05:30] Action: slava_dp waves to Zordrak [05:30] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [05:31] well I'm hackin Erics' slackbuild if you want useful hehe ;p [05:32] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [05:32] I never knew MPlayer had '--win32codecsdir=' and '--realcodecsdir=' all I've known is just '--codecsdir=' [05:33] maybe I forgot and they dumped in the snaps with now just the --codecsdir= [05:33] dumped it in... [05:35] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:36] Xgates: Samoa's an hour behind y'all,right? [05:37] Zordrak: sure, but I am at work, and it is lunch time so I may take a while to answer [05:40] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-12-154.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:43] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-178-0.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:43] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:44] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:46] rirombo (~rirombo@h146.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:47] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-140.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[06:25] Falsificado (~Alexandre@201.22.56.233) left irc: Changing host [06:25] Falsificado (~Alexandre@unaffiliated/falsificado) joined ##slackware. [06:25] Falsificado (Alexandre@unaffiliated/falsificado) left ##slackware. [06:26] Falsificado (~Alexandre@unaffiliated/falsificado) joined ##slackware. [06:27] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:27] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@h4x0r.gentoo.ltd.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:28] Good day, I'm having trouble compiling php-odbc. Can anyone help me? [06:28] ahhhh [06:28] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:29] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:29] I installed unixODBC correctly [06:29] version 2.2.3 [06:29] but when compiling I get the php odbc [06:29] /opt/configurações/php5/php-5.2.13/ext/odbc/php_odbc_includes.h:74:21: error: WINDOWS.H: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado [06:30] /opt/configurações/php5/php-5.2.13/ext/odbc/php_odbc.c: In function ‘zif_odbc_columns’: [06:30] /opt/configurações/php5/php-5.2.13/ext/odbc/php_odbc.c:2964: warning: comparison between pointer and integer [06:30] make: ** [php_odbc.lo] Erro 1 [06:30] appreciate any help [06:33] Falsificado: in /opt/configurações/php5/php-5.2.13/ext/odbc/ .. does php_odbc_includes.h exists? [06:33] yes [06:34] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-189-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [06:34] it exists [06:36] I must change something in the file php_odbc_includes.h? [06:36] Falsificado: ok... where is it looking for windows.h? [06:37] MLanden: windows.h doesn't exist in linux I guess [06:38] this file does not exist in slackawre [06:38] metrofox: yup,might be the case [06:38] mornin folks [06:38] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:39] is just so #include [06:39] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [06:40] ah, not windows.h [06:40] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Falsificado: when you ./configure ... were there any errors of directories not found? might need to ./configure --help | less and check to see you have the required directories http://www.theserverpages.com/php/manual/en/ref.uodbc.php [06:41] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Falsificado (~Alexandre@unaffiliated/falsificado) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:41] hi people [06:41] anyone use rsnapshot here? [06:41] amiralul (~amiralul@86.122.14.1) joined ##slackware. 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[08:17] as it turns out sdl-1.2.14 has a bug where apps crash when any kind of joystick is used [08:17] node357_ (seanj@S01060040052fa27e.gv.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [08:17] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:19] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:20] fantasmic (~usuario@ip-200-003-170-009.coopvgg.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:20] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [08:21] hi, does anyone know how to tell when the cache of an usb transfer (pendrive) was flushed? [08:21] (by console of course) [08:23] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:25] knuckles (gtklocker@unaffiliated/gtklocker) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.2"). [08:26] nvision (1000@47-203.wlan.uni-potsdam.de) joined ##slackware. [08:26] fantasmic: type "sync" three times and when your cursor returns, it should be flushed [08:27] Claudiaa_ (FiRTiNaSc@41.236.13.209) joined ##slackware. [08:28] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [08:28] one sync should be enough :-) [08:29] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [08:29] alisonken1home, three times? why not two or one? i mean some log file or command [08:30] fantasmic, 'sync' is your command, it writes buffers on disks. [08:31] fantasmic: it's actually a holdover from early machines when it took three syncs for timing issues to finish flushing the buffers [08:32] slava_dp, thanks, i kown, i was asking about how to tell when it's really flushed [08:32] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-189-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:33] alisonken1lap, ok, i didn't knew that, i'll keep that in mind for my scripts. thanks [08:33] fantasmic, also, umount flushes for sure. 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[08:52] or like when you capture a leprechaun he has to tell you where his pot of gold is [08:52] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-25-245.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:54] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-27-117.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:54] Action: ut doesn't see what sync has to do with leprechauns [08:56] yeah, cause its so relevant to elves :p [08:56] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:56] well, the first two times it returns, it might be lying. [08:57] any tools to convert rtf to txt? [08:57] besides openoffice.org [08:57] :-) [08:58] as I have 74 files to convert..... 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[10:42] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone [10:43] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-94-248.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Disconnected by services [10:43] Nick change: nessundo1ma -> nessundorma [10:44] Has anyone here ever gotten framebuffer console to work with the inteldrmfb driver? [10:46] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:47] Destructo (41585838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.88.88.56) left ##slackware. [10:52] To me I get native resolution in a terminal by default Redb3ard [10:53] I'm not. [10:53] I'm jumping through hoops, and none of it is working. [10:54] dunno, normally KMS should set resolution for you [10:56] allend (~allend@CPE-143-238-239-130.lns9.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:57] KyNDeR (1000@189.63.64.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] Nick change: LeckMichImArsch -> asjhdgaskd [10:58] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] I have a KMS kernel. [10:59] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:59] Unless I specifically switch it off, I get a black screen. [10:59] Have to shell into it to fix it. [11:01] KyNDeR (1000@189.63.64.26) joined ##slackware. [11:04] o_O [11:04] Yeh. [11:05] I had a black screen once as well, but it normally just works here [11:05] It's an Asus Eeepc. [11:05] with pineview? [11:05] What's pineview? [11:05] the video card [11:06] Intel 915GM. [11:06] I would post mine but I usually get kicked when posting inxi *g* [11:06] oh [11:07] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@52.sub-97-27-32.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Urugami [11:07] no thats an older card I have a GMA 3150 [11:07] which works perfectly with Slackware 13.1 [11:13] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:17] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [11:18] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. 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[12:06] Nick change: Yandertal -> Yandertal_away [12:06] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:06] Yandertal_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [12:07] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:11] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Axius (~fd@92.84.25.52) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:12] ice ice baby [12:12] Yandertal, you figure out the no away nick thing yet? [12:13] Skywise: I don't think he notices. [12:13] he IS a neyandertal. [12:13] he is hairless ape [12:14] Skywise: sorry error networks [12:14] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.249) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:14] error networks ? [12:14] its the reverse of .. [12:17] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Yandertal: in case you're wondering, stop changing your nickname when you go away. [12:18] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:18] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.217.118) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:18] I like to use tmpfile for irc nicks [12:19] Yandertal: use the /away command instead or autoaway.pl for irssi [12:19] thumbs: ok boy, my networks error system, connected in bnc [12:21] Yandertal: so you need to configure your bnc properly. [12:21] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:21] ok [12:21] Yandertal (rdlBNC@unaffiliated/yandertal) left ##slackware. [12:21] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.177.185) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Yandertal: you do realise that you are annoying the entire channel with this, are you? 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[12:39] hello. im trying to install slackware 13.1 to my laptop. when i start cfdisk it says "bad primary partition 1 partition ends in the final partial cylind". what am i doing wrong? [12:42] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:44] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.1) joined ##slackware. [12:45] skinder: try to use fdisk [12:45] list your partition using fdisk /dev/YOUR_DISK -l [12:46] thank you, fdisk works [12:46] or use cfdisk with the "-z" option too [12:46] -z will erase all data, yes? [12:46] but beware with possible data lost :) [12:46] ok, thanks again [12:46] -z will ignore the partition table on your disk [12:47] technopolic (~intel@95.43.2.3) joined ##slackware. [12:47] overwrite? [12:47] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5C14.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:48] hello, I think upgrade to current but in the man there isn't tip to upgrade glibc [12:48] so when and how to upgrade glibc-solibs? [12:48] KyNDeR (1000@189.63.64.26) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:48] after slackpkg update? [12:49] read the documents .. like UPGRADE.TXT [12:50] skinder: probably :) [12:51] glibc can most harmlessly be done from your current RL [12:52] what is RL? [12:52] runlevel [12:52] can't understand [12:52] then don't update to -current [12:52] technopolic: why do you want to run -current? [12:52] If don't try I'll not learn ;) [12:53] because of the latest version of packages [12:53] technopolic: be sure to read CURRENT.WARNING. [12:53] aah "shiny new packages syndrome" [12:54] Don't run -current unless you are prepared for unforeseen breakage and any given time. [12:54] and running -current just because of 'new' packages is not a good reason to run -current [12:54] it's why I run -current ;) [12:55] shiny new packages with bugs that might explode [12:55] UPGRADE.TXT shows 13.0 to 13.1 [12:55] not to current [12:55] running -current because you like the newer packages is not bad on it's own. But -current does work on the principle that you know what you are doing. [12:55] thrice`: You are a much more experienced user too [12:55] annnnnd that statement .. from technopolic just says it all. [12:56] Action: BP{k} goes in search of beer. ;) [12:56] so after slackpkg update [12:56] and before install-new [12:56] -current is not the latest stable version, its the latest development [12:56] goddamn fucking gedit froze again goddamn [12:56] technopolic, read the manpage for slackpkg, it's like 4 steps [12:56] I should type slackpkg upgrade glibc-solibs [12:56] ? [12:57] the lastest stable version is 13.1 [12:57] yes, but some peoples says me [12:57] to upgrade AND glibc [12:57] and if not do that my system wii mess [12:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] technopolic: what people? [12:57] don't bother - it'll be fine :> [12:57] slackware users [12:57] WhiteSnow, tried medit? [12:57] they are old-fart users like BP{k} [12:57] technopolic: which ones? [12:58] technopolic: I want to know which ones told you to upgrade glibc-solibs [12:58] technopolic: which ones told you to upgrade to -current.. who told you to upgrade at all? [12:58] doesn't matter :) thanks [12:58] technopolic (intel@95.43.2.3) left ##slackware. [12:58] Sure it does. [12:58] idiot [12:58] well... [12:58] That's right.. don't justify your own stupidity. [12:59] Well upgrading -current isnt bad as long as everything works, but until now I havent found any real reason to do so :x [12:59] Roin: it requires a clue. [12:59] Roin: saying that upgrading glibc-solibs and 'slackware users' told him to do it.... yeah right [12:59] Roin: technopolic lacked one. [12:59] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Quit: changing servers [12:59] LEt him upgrade glibc-solibs [12:59] he'll see the hell it will bring him [13:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:00] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:00] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:00] Well, looking out for kernel mods like nvidia drivers, etc. should make you avoid most problems with upgrading shouldnt it? [13:00] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:01] and reading the corresponding UPGRADE.TXT and Changes_and_Hints.txt of course [13:01] Roin: and core packages. [13:02] what thumbs said [13:02] the core packages is what will bite you most often [13:02] especially if you start blinding upgrading [13:02] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:02] yeah, but I think everything important is mentioned in the files and they always give the hint that an upgrade can break the system :D [13:02] did someone unwittingly do the glibc upgrade? [13:02] looks like it [13:02] that's too bad [13:03] that'll end in a reinstall [13:04] I don't see the interest in -current myself. I do have one box with -current on it, but it's just for testing/debugging and mostly unused. [13:04] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:04] isBEKaml_ (keml@122.174.155.19) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:04] dive, that may be the point [13:05] until now -current doesnt have to many new stuff as well imho [13:05] aka 'not a production box' [13:05] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:05] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:05] yeah, it may be about debugging and contributing by doing that [13:05] yeah [13:05] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:05] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [13:06] Besides, 13.1 has pretty up-to-date software so *thumbsup* on that one [13:06] I find the frequency of stable releases is frequent enough for me. [13:06] not into upgrading avery weekend [13:06] s/avery/every/ [13:07] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:07] this is not #gentoo, after all [13:07] srry [13:07] jesus FUCKING christ. gedit froze AGAIN [13:08] DURgod_ (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:08] WhiteSnow: please refrain from swearing here. [13:08] WhiteSnow, tried medit? It's on sbo. [13:09] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:11] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:13] john_dee (~id@93-81-68-73.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:17] har (~AndChat@166.133.191.37) left irc: Quit: Bye [13:20] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [13:20] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:21] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:22] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:26] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:34] root_op (~root_op@90-229-186-34-no30.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Oi people [13:35] I'm running Slackware64.. Or rather, trying to run Slackware64 [13:36] Now the thing is that, first off; I'm dualbooting with Windows 7 and despite how much I love GRUB, my teacher want's me to keep BCD. [13:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:37] And, basicly I'm no LILO user so I want GRUB instead. [13:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:38] grub legacy is in extra/ [13:38] iirc [13:38] Now, here's the tricky part. I'm in AHCI SATA mode, and the partition format is ext4. [13:38] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:39] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:40] Roin, Yeah I noticed. Although I can't boot into my system so I chrooted from the install media into /mnt after the installation. Although when I tried to run the SlackBuild then it just tells me that the C Compiler doesn't work. [13:41] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:44] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [13:44] Morning. [13:45] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] g'morning [13:45] morning [13:45] :) [13:47] Ah well, guess I'll give it a go again. [13:47] root_op (~root_op@90-229-186-34-no30.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: [13:47] root!? [13:47] morning [13:48] how you feeling today, riza? [13:48] Skywise, happy. :D [13:48] thats the way to enjoy a weekend [13:49] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:49] Indeedy! [13:50] esp since classes are over. My stupid Arab teacher hasn't given me my grades yet though and I'm somewhat worried he doesn't give me a favorable grade. [13:50] Axius (~fd@92.84.2.82) joined ##slackware. [13:50] how you think you did? [13:51] Personally a B at least. [13:51] I want my honor status! [13:51] some profs are a pain like that, especially in the summer [13:51] What about you? How are you this day Skywise? :D [13:51] Starcraft 2 is out btw! [13:51] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:52] its a beautiful day and i've already had breakfast and lunch [13:52] so i'm happy too [13:52] I did not... >.> I feel guilty now. [13:52] I stepped on the weight scale thingie and I'm like 100lb. [13:52] it only mattes if you're hungry [13:52] wow, how tall are you? [13:53] 5'5 o.o [13:53] wow [13:53] I'm very tiny. [13:53] lol [13:53] i was 100lbs in the 5th grade [13:53] but you can eat as much as you like [13:54] True! :D [13:54] you should be careful not to blow away in the wind [13:54] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:55] grazymax (~grazymax@host128-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:55] did you get big storms yesterday? [13:55] We had rain on and off. [13:55] what does this have to do with slackware??? [13:55] we got pounded, but the weather has been nice ever since [13:55] But I was inside the house all day. [13:55] everything [13:55] storms dont have anything to do with slackware linux!!! [13:55] how come you can't tell [13:55] WhiteSnow, everything of course. :D [13:56] you better watch out before a operator sees you!! [13:56] WhiteSnow, oh no! [13:56] Action: riza takes Skywise's hand and runs. [13:56] Action: Skywise hides unsuccessfully behind riza [13:56] ;_; Nooo~! [13:57] i'm 5'11" 220 [13:57] o.o That's pretty damn muscular! [13:57] yeah, i used to play football [13:58] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.155.156.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:58] No wonder. :D [13:58] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:59] But that also means lots of calories to maintain that weight. Eat eat eat eat eat eat eat. [13:59] its hard for me to eat enough [13:59] i couldn't put on weight like i needed too [13:59] lalala *whistle* [14:00] what has not got around the stomach before 40 comes after [14:00] Ah well, not like you need to now. Married? Kiddos? :D [14:00] lol [14:01] not married but in a stable relationship, marrage doesn't appeal to me at all [14:01] no, i could use some more excersize [14:01] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [14:01] i am 30 and already i notice that i can not eat the same much... earlier i could eat as much chips as i ever wanted and it never attached [14:01] mrcarrot, hmm. [14:01] Metabolism dies off as you get older it seems then. [14:02] Ah well, I better cherish my metabolism now then. [14:02] its funny 3 hot dogs filled me up when i was 10 and still to this day [14:02] yes... and after about 40 you have to be alot more careful with what you eat [14:02] lol! At once? :D That's so cute. [14:02] i guess you have to stretch out your stomach [14:02] WhiteSnow (x@cpe-66-66-164-165.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:02] i can eat 4 without the buns [14:03] i'd never win a championship [14:03] Where do you live? :D [14:03] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-155-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:03] in md [14:03] In Coney Island there is a competition. The famous Japanese guy who won year after year does it here I think. [14:03] i waved at you when you went to nc [14:03] Action: mrcarrot is living in finland [14:03] NC? I never been to North Carolina. D: [14:04] oh then that was raela [14:04] mrcarrot, have you ever seen a statue of Linus? :p [14:04] Skywise: I went to SC :P [14:04] no, riza [14:04] but i have read several articles by his father [14:04] well i almost remembered something right [14:04] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl14-249-124.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:04] riza: is there a statue of Linus? [14:04] he is an active journalist [14:05] i have never heard about any statue of Linus either [14:05] metrofox, no, most likely not but he is a hero in Finland and I was just joking. [14:05] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:05] riza: ah lol... didn't get the joke then :-P [14:05] speaking about statues, i once heard a really good joke [14:05] it would be covered in snow and you'd never get to see it anyway [14:06] here we have around 20 degree celsius right now [14:06] yeah, i heard it was even 102 in moscow [14:06] and during the summer a bit above 30 [14:06] the joke: [14:06] is everyone lying on the glaciers to get cool? [14:06] LOL [14:07] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [14:07] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:07] eheh [14:07] once a sovjet leader came to finland visiting... and he wanted to put flowers on the grave of the unknown soldier [14:07] the president said that there is no such grave [14:07] oh LOL [14:07] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:07] the leader got red in his face and angry and said: do you joke with me, there is a such grave in every single country [14:08] so they said to him: oh, yes there is actually one [14:08] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:08] and the leader bought some nice flowers and they went to a really big stone in a grave yard [14:08] and the leader put the flowers there [14:09] but as he was curious he went around the stone [14:09] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl14-249-124.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:09] and there it was reading Jean Sibelius [14:09] he got again red in the face and shouted: do you make fun out of me? this is the grave of the famuous composer! [14:09] Hm.. [14:10] they replied quickly to him: oh yes, he is very famous, but totally unknown as soldier [14:10] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.98) joined ##slackware. [14:10] hehe [14:11] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:11] grazymax (~grazymax@host228-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:12] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:13] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:13] mrcarrot, o.o I didn't really get that. [14:13] Also do we need the lost+found folder? [14:13] :) [14:13] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Howdy [14:14] i guess you need computer related jokes, riza ;) [14:14] mrcarrot, I do. :) [14:14] riza, yeah thats where fsck can dump files it finds [14:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Bah. [14:15] mrcarrot, your nick reminds me of a skit i saw on the vicar of dibley [14:15] the point in that stupid joke is how the finns times after time to save the situation, to not make the big sovjet angry.... and how they invented an unknown soldiers grave [14:15] the vicar and her assistant were talking about jesus and his ressurection [14:16] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Skywise: i use this stupid nick because everything i am normally using is taken on freenode. i am having carrot colored hair (naturally red) so i thought whatever, i take mrcarrot [14:16] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:16] and so the the vicar say to the assitant, do you believe in the ressurection of jesus and her assistant says yes i do because i've seen it myself [14:17] Did you try Opie mrcarrot ? [14:17] and then the vicar says, seen it yourself? tell me what happened [14:17] no, arfon [14:17] so the assistant says, when she was little she had a little parakeet named carrot [14:18] and one day when she woke up she noticed carrot lying on the bottom of her cage and not moving, but she had to go to school [14:18] but when she came home that afternoon carrot was alive and singing in the cage [14:19] and the vicar eyes her suspicously and says and did this happen more then once? [14:19] and the assistant says, oh yea, it happened a lot of times [14:20] puzzled the vicar asks, did carrot look the same after he was ressurected [14:20] sometimes i am afraid that this nick is interpreted wrong... like a code word for the thing hanging between the legs.... but whatever... at least i am registerd and i get to chat on all the channels i want [14:20] Action: arfon doesn't get it [14:20] and the assistant says, well no, he looked a little different each time, but what can you expect from having to go thru death and resurrection and all [14:21] mrcarrot, what code word? D: [14:21] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [14:21] riza: let it be :) [14:21] and the vicar says sadly, i'm sorry but i have some bad news for you, carrot died and wasn't resurrected [14:21] Hey means his keys riza [14:21] Oh okay. :D [14:21] when carrot died, your parents just got you a new parakeet [14:21] you know when you pcoket gets all sideways [14:22] Action: mrcarrot is always failing picking a nick... [14:22] Skywise, awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. [14:22] I wish my parents were like that but NO! [14:22] and wimpering the assistant asked so you mean carrot died? [14:22] and the vicar says yes [14:22] and the assistant says ... and carrot? [14:22] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.1.58) joined ##slackware. [14:22] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:22] the vicar says yes [14:22] and the assistant says ... and carrot? [14:22] and the vicar says yes, the whole bunch of carrots [14:23] fat comedians have no patience [14:23] once i tried on another place to use just carrot... it was taken, so i decided to s/t/x and it became carrox... and lot of men tried to pick me up. i was not realizing that it was sounding feminine in other languages [14:24] then i was thinkng that i am up so much during the night that it should have something to do with moon... and the name of moon is luna. same story [14:24] mrcarrot, o.o carrox is a feminine name? [14:24] this time i at least added mr there to avoid such situations [14:24] riza: apparently [14:24] mrcarrot: you should have tried imadude [14:24] Haha. [14:25] Nick change: riza -> missdudette [14:25] :P [14:25] sometimes irc is so strange, when you can not see if it is a girl or a dude you talk with [14:25] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:25] riza, did you try imachick? [14:25] yeah, that only happens on IRC [14:25] Nick change: missdudette -> risah [14:25] most of the women on the internet are middle aged men [14:25] Axius (~fd@92.84.2.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:26] I wonder why middle aged though. [14:26] i have to go now [14:26] bye [14:26] Bye mrcarrot. [14:26] Sky, you need to fix that: "most women on the internet who will chat with you are middle aged men. [14:26] it takes guys a while to figure out they can pose as women [14:26] "a significant percentage of them are federal agents" [14:26] those are the teenage women [14:27] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [14:27] I can't help but think they are either real women or transsexuals, I've rarely ever met men who pretend to be women. [14:28] Most are extremely uncomfortable with that. [14:28] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [14:28] For example, I know raela is a real woman without having the need to speak to her in full detail. [14:28] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:28] rizah, as long as you don't arrange to meet them, does it really matter? [14:28] Don't ask her, I just know and my instincts rarely do me wrong. [14:28] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.1.58) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:28] arfon, nope, it matters even less then. [14:28] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:28] :) [14:29] THAT statement is full of win. [14:29] Erm I mean "don't ask me"* [14:29] no, i don't think its sexual [14:29] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [14:29] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:29] i think its more along the lines of a troll [14:29] Precisely. :D [14:29] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [14:30] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-205-218.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:30] Troll live under bridges... not many internet connections terminating under bridges.... [14:30] :) [14:30] lol :) [14:31] unless the troll living under the bridge cut it [14:31] Now I've got an image in my head of groups of homelss men, hanging up in the creavases of bridges with laptops... [14:32] LOL [14:32] Homeless but armed with laptop. [14:32] Ah! a plausible explanation, TY adaptr [14:32] They are OLD laptops rizah.... [14:32] risah: have you ever read any Sprawl ? [14:32] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:33] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Poor can't afford new laptops [14:33] adaptr, nope. [14:33] not at all unlikely [14:33] They have to Facebook really slowly. [14:33] Or twitter. >.> [14:34] they use the iphones all the macfans drop on the sidewalk so they can get a new one from insurance [14:34] I HATE homeless tweets... They always ask for money.... "why lie?..." [14:34] why do we alwasy get on these, women dont use computers, conversations? [14:35] because out of 300 people theres only 3 women here [14:35] ...because all women on the internet are dudes...? [14:35] KaMii, dunno, cynicism. [14:35] I'd say like out of 100, about 10 or so are girls. [14:35] meh, i just say there are no gender online, because does it really matter whats between your legs online? [14:36] fantasmic (~usuario@ip-200-003-170-009.coopvgg.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [14:36] especially on freenode [14:36] they're working on that [14:36] Not on "Hello Kitty Net", that's 100% women.... [14:36] haptic suits [14:36] you mean imvu [14:36] I take that back 50% women, 50% asian dudes. [14:36] women gravitate to their own places [14:36] What's haptic suits for? [14:37] tactile feedback [14:37] >:( That's offensive arfon, as I'm Asian. [14:37] thanks for making me feel welcome here [14:37] rizah, scanning for viruses [14:37] Do you like Hello Kitty? [14:37] No. [14:37] lol [14:37] :) [14:37] i do [14:37] You're the only one then... :P [14:37] doubt it [14:37] i like it on obama's battle flag [14:37] rirombo (~rirombo@h146.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:38] I couldn't believe how many OLDER chinese guys that I worked with would come into the office with thier laptopns and there was a Hello Kitty something on it. [14:38] that called having grandkids [14:38] arfon, ya, it's called having kids. They share their stuff with their kids. [14:38] Very common in Asian families. [14:39] Not on their COMPANY laptops... [14:39] i got a friend with power rangers stickers all over his laptop [14:39] If they bring it home, they'd still share it. [14:39] i tease him all the time [14:39] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:39] eveything he owns has stickers on it [14:39] Does he like the pink one Sky? [14:39] i keep asking him why do you keep buying stickers [14:39] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:40] i put stickers on my pappas stuff all the time [14:40] Hold his stuff together Skywise [14:40] he has to like it [14:40] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:40] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:40] I don't suppose anyone has a prebuilt xulrunner package for 13.1? [14:41] it's the inner child, complete with a plausible excuse [14:41] KaMii: I'm sure he's thrilled when he is in a meeting with clients and het opens up his laptop and everyone sees the Smurf stickers you stuck on there... :) [14:41] rirombo, you check alienbob's [14:41] I think my little netbook is going to take a few weeks to compile it from SB :( [14:41] smurfs, lol no [14:41] and he does like it [14:41] :) [14:41] he shows it off all the time [14:41] adaptr, yep. [14:41] That's Smurfy! K [14:42] smurf off [14:42] lol [14:42] lmao [14:42] rockslinux (~chatzilla@213.87.194.6) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Hey, you can't smurf to me like that! That's not smurfy [14:42] :P [14:42] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: risah [14:43] i'll smurf all the smurfing smurf I smurfing feel like smurfing, smurf eater [14:43] :D [14:43] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Oops, hit ctrl+q by accident. [14:44] Well, smurf smurf smurf smurf and smurf.... MMMmmmmm smurf [14:44] riza: I hate it when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL by accident [14:44] what color does a smurf turn if hes choking? [14:44] white [14:44] more blue :) [14:44] purple? [14:44] Unfortunately, it doesn't look like alienBOB has xulrunner :( [14:45] rirombo: is it on slackbuilds? [14:45] can you compile on a 32bit desktop and copy over rirombo ? [14:45] KaMii: Yes [14:46] rirombo: why do you need it? alienBOBs vlc package has it bundled, if you wanted it for vlc [14:46] and Slackware uses seamonkey's xul [14:46] but its also on sbo [14:46] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.1) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [14:46] I need it for Conkeror [14:46] if you still need it seperate [14:46] meh! [14:46] He was complaining that the SBO is taking forever to compile [14:47] I am so happy my life is ... well... like now. [14:47] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:47] yeah, complain to mozilla :p [14:47] some things tak awhile to compile, just deal with it [14:47] Those little atoms are!fast [14:47] Happy enough, thankful. Also thankful that I have a nice computer that I do now. [14:47] arfon: xulrunner takes forever to compile [14:47] I just thought I would ask :) [14:47] I compiled it toget eclipse to work ^_^ [14:47] I bet... [14:47] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:47] took me half a day or so [14:47] So does Wine [14:47] start it before you go to bed, hello people do the large compiles when your sleeping [14:48] wine only takes 45 min on my system [14:48] and im not a fast computer [14:48] arfon luckily WINE has binaries ^.^ [14:48] who would want to use emacs keybindings in a web browser? get vimperator! [14:48] wine takes like 10 min on my computer. [14:48] Sometimes less. [14:48] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:48] zomg .. KaMii is an android o.O .. [14:48] 45 minutes id FOREVER when you wanna play Anarchy Online [14:48] lol [14:48] Does she run any apps? [14:48] haha [14:49] ..besides KitchenFire.exe? [14:49] you guys have no patience [14:49] whats .exe doing in here? [14:49] This is taking too long [14:49] BP{k}, o.o I wanna see KaMii, you have a picture of her?! [14:49] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) joined ##slackware. [14:50] riza: im not here for that [14:50] KaMii: I could have said KitcehFire but no one wouyld have gotten it so it was KitchenFire.exe [14:50] you want an internet girlfriend go to imvu.com [14:50] i think theres one in tubgirl.com [14:50] riza: no :P [14:50] KaMii, nor am I but I'm still curious! :D [14:50] We could even trade1 [14:50] why is every boy/man wanting my picture [14:50] Action: KaMii slaps the pervs [14:50] riza, go to ILuvSmurfs.com, her picture is in the BIGGEST FAN pages [14:51] LOL [14:51] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.151) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:51] males are horny mamals [14:51] so are girls [14:51] So are bulls, ESPICALLY longhorns [14:51] horny mammarymals [14:51] arfon: you have some stories to tell us about your longhorn experience? [14:52] does it feature unwanted insertions ? [14:52] we can accompany it with some utoob [14:52] I'm in Austin Texas, I have TONS of Longhorn stories.... [14:52] Almost everycar here has a Longhorn sticker [14:52] "killed one" ? [14:53] did you eat its oysters? [14:53] Action: riza is very very very lost. [14:53] No Texas has the death penality, no matter how much they piss me off, I like myself too much to test Texas [14:53] they will kill you for eating cow balls? [14:53] Riza follow my voice, I'll lead you out [14:54] rockslinux (~chatzilla@213.87.194.6) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100402161724] [14:55] Action: riza is deaf. [14:55] Action: arfon has sooo many resposes to that but knows better than typing them.... [14:55] I'm actually deaf / hoh in person so oh well. [14:55] WHat? [14:56] so next time riza talks about listening to musik we can catch him in a lie [14:56] KaMii, I'm not completely deaf. [14:56] I wear hearing aids. [14:57] i wear socks [14:57] ... [14:57] When did we switch to word association? [14:58] nooooooooooooooooo they are doing a tom cruize marathon on tv the rest of summer.... NOOOOOOoooo [14:58] summer is officially dead to me now [14:58] HA HA!!! [14:58] Get some Cruise, KaMii [14:58] riza: just out of curiosity. you're profoundly deaf? ie, next to nothing without hearing aids? [14:59] i make tom cruize in sims 3 just to watch him die [14:59] Action: arfon hates AT&T ticketing system [14:59] KaMii: <3 [14:59] BP{k}, severe. [14:59] arfon: if you dont like standing in lines, do not ever come to sweden [14:59] Profoundly is literally nothing without hearing aids. [15:00] The ones I have are about $5000. [15:00] Born like that riza or was it rock music? [15:00] in space, no one can hear you scream [15:00] arfon, born, my mother did drugs. [15:00] Yow [15:00] That sux [15:00] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [15:00] mikronet (~root@93-136-145-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:00] riza: ah okay. [15:01] riza: kethry is on the border of severe/profoundly [15:02] kethry? I don't thik I've ever heard her speak. [15:03] I wouldn't mind speaking to her. Do you have any idea how it happened? [15:03] she mostly lurks in here. [15:04] riza: pm her, she's currently not at the computer though. As far as it is known, deafness started around her 4th year or so. Nobody has any clue how/what. [15:04] riza, would an implant improve your hearing? [15:04] dfrank (~dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Skywise, those are bad and not worth the risk. [15:04] hello All! Tell me please, how can i change partition size using cfdisk? I see only delete and maximize options.. [15:04] rirombo (~rirombo@h146.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:04] riza: pm? [15:05] BP{k}, go for it! [15:05] thank you. :) [15:05] riza: your not missing much, most musik today sucks anyway [15:05] oh gee BP{k} is hitting on the girls again [15:05] dfrank: thats normal [15:05] dfrank, why not use gparted? [15:05] riza, i had no idea, but thats really par for the course when it comes to medical appliances [15:05] sahko, he's not hitting on anyone, or me in this case. [15:05] riza: :p [15:05] Skywise, there's stem cell. [15:05] Roin: so, i just can't do it? [15:06] riza, they have alot of promise, but things are still on the horizon [15:06] you'll need something else like parted magic or gparted live cd [15:06] theres an issue with control and programming them [15:06] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:06] riza: because i don't have it, and i am lazy to install.. Is this better way? (install gparted) [15:07] i have a friend who's deaf that wanted to try out my ogg player to see if it could get loud enough for her to get something from it. answer was that yes it can, and she thinks i listen to terrible music [15:07] Skywise, hm, I know they are doing surgeries in China and I called but they said they do it for most everything else with stem cell but not hearing because most people on this planet arent' deaf. [15:07] dfrank gparted livecd [15:07] Apparently there are more people with brain damage than hearing issues. [15:07] its jello, much more fragile [15:07] riza, wut? [15:08] riza: isn't ## proof of that on a daily basis? ;) [15:08] Skywise, aye. [15:08] haha [15:09] BP{k}, lol [15:10] < riza> Skywise, there's stem cell. <--- theres stem cell? i stem my own cells, thank you. [15:10] rirombo (~rirombo@h207.12.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] yes, no one else is to blame at all [15:11] mikronet (root@93-136-145-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [15:11] not even riza ? cmon. i wanna blame him. [15:11] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:11] o.o [15:11] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Okay that one flew over me. [15:13] jg71 flys over everyone I guess [15:13] SvenJarl (~Mono@95.169.46.32) joined ##slackware. [15:13] takes one to notice one, Roin ;) [15:14] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [15:14] AlexElliott (~alex@client-86-31-201-133.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] whos worse? christian slater, tom cruize, or matt daemon? [15:15] steven seagull. [15:15] definitely the first [15:15] NEXT. [15:15] d All of the above [15:15] jg71: lol [15:15] seven seagull wasnt on the list [15:15] hes a cop now [15:15] KaMii: Tom Cruize [15:15] Seagull? [15:15] i saw him on tv arresting people [15:16] what is cygwin like? im now stuck on my parents laptop running win 7 [15:16] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.100.245) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:16] ya he has some new reality tv show, and hes a polic officer [15:16] dustybin: it'S like more parents. [15:16] ? [15:16] just lol, ok? [15:16] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [15:16] lol [15:17] rirombo (~rirombo@h207.12.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:18] Action: arfon has a headache [15:19] try pressing lightly on the bridge of your nose in short pulses until it feels better [15:19] goj (~goj@p5488FB9D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:19] awww iceage 2 is over [15:19] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [15:19] ohhh appollo 13 [15:19] Been doing that Sky, thanks [15:19] Now you can watch Tome Cruise KaMii ... [15:19] Tom even [15:19] Tom Hanks [15:20] :D [15:20] the wrong tom arfon [15:20] T.Hanks [15:20] :( [15:21] Tom Arnold? [15:21] whos that? [15:22] who the smurf is Tom Arnold? [15:22] I'm not sure how to answer that KaMii [15:22] Anyone here heard about issues with booting when using addon PCI SATA card together with internal SATA controller? [15:22] I haven't Sven [15:23] your kernel should pick that up, unless you have a custom one that turned doesnt have built in modules [15:23] goj (~goj@p5488FB9D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] when i connect drives to both SATA controllers it fails, use only one of the controller all systems running [15:23] your kernel is probably conflicting with both controllers then [15:23] or its your bios [15:24] slackware detects both controllers just fine [15:24] check bios settings first [15:24] go KaMii go! [15:24] i fear iscsi target foo is involved. the .33 kernel has probs [15:25] i moved the disks over to the addon SATA card and it works fine. [15:25] Action: KaMii goes [15:25] BIOS, i hear ya [15:25] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [15:26] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/46821 heh [15:26] just a question.. why are you using a PCI SATA card? [15:27] 00:09.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3512 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 01) [15:27] i dont have PCIe [15:27] and need more SATA ports [15:27] how many HDDS do you have? [15:28] 3 for now [15:28] mobo only supports 2 [15:28] your motherboard only has 2 SATA ports? [15:28] it won't boot if 2 SATAs sre plugged in? [15:28] 3SATAs? [15:29] 2 ports on external and 2 ports on internal, i cannot use both controllers at the same time [15:29] it freezes after card BIOS loads [15:29] strange [15:29] then its a bios issue i would say [15:29] your bios dosent support the PCI card [15:30] well it seems like it doesnt like to use 2 controllers at the same time [15:30] check your motherboard manual [15:30] When you boot up, can you go into your ADDON card's BIOS and make sure it's not set 'funny'? [15:30] ye [15:31] ill do it all :) [15:31] i want those extra bytes [15:31] BADLY [15:32] Action: KaMii bytes SvenJarl [15:32] hahaha [15:32] lol [15:32] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:32] Better get a shot Sven, KaMii has rabies.... [15:32] rirombo (~rirombo@h207.12.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] no, uh huh, just swin flu, cuz i didnt get the vaccine [15:33] we call it Sven flu but ok [15:33] u have been piggified [15:33] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:33] we say svin influenza here [15:33] HA!!! You DIDNT get the swine flu shot K [15:33] Norsk? eller Dansk? [15:34] norsk [15:34] jaja [15:34] var i norge? [15:34] Dovrefjell [15:34] where the Troll lives [15:35] hahaha [15:35] im in sweden [15:35] its sleeping now tho, but not for long if i cant get this SATA working as it should [15:35] Gøta? [15:35] no [15:35] riza: I assume you were going by risah earlier. I've known plenty of guys pretending to be women to exploit desperate guys. either to get items/money/etc in games, or to get attention, or to get better help [15:36] Guys are dumb [15:36] ^^ arfon hehe [15:36] :) [15:36] Hey, why lie? [15:37] SvenJarl: what Motherboard do you have? [15:37] one of the first Aopen with SATA [15:37] K77 MAX [15:37] Aopen? [15:37] yap [15:37] never heard of that one, did the troll make it? [15:37] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.224.96.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] prolly stepped on it tho [15:38] raela, I am risah. [15:38] raela, and yep I do too but not as exaggerated as, say, "all women on the internet are men". You know? [15:38] :S i thought trolls came from iceland SvenJarl from the edda sagas [15:39] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:39] no no, the Jotun mountains are where they live [15:39] riza: I doubt most until proven otherwise [15:39] ever heard the symphony called Hall of the mountain king? [15:39] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:39] Dovregubben is here [15:39] does it have a techno remix? [15:39] raela, most people do. [15:39] Hence the "you're all men until proven otherwise". [15:39] ye it has [15:40] then i probably have [15:40] probably an effect of being on IRC for so long [15:40] neradio.se [15:40] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:40] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:40] raela an effect of being on the internet. [15:40] Cause average folks would believe it. [15:40] doesn't help that I know guys that do it [15:41] are we still talking about guys posing as girls? [15:41] alright, I need to go get down to the bus stop.. afk 30 mintutes or so [15:42] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:42] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-155-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [15:43] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:43] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:43] whats that effects of irc for so long? [15:44] baldness for one [15:44] 300 years and counting [15:44] well mr. sir please do speak for yourself [15:44] Fisheyes comes afterwards [15:44] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:44] you win! [15:45] :) [15:45] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: adoro compilar kernel! kkk [15:45] •KaMii• AK77-8X-MAX [15:45] sorry, ima block colors [15:45] thats ubuntu keycode [15:46] a* [15:46] +a [15:46] its shorter then windows so its better [15:47] Mobo asus model [15:47] Aopen [15:47] i block all custom colors so i didnt see it [15:47] lol [15:47] thats wise tho [15:47] Aopen AK77-8X-MAX [15:48] Promise internal BIOS for SATA [15:48] and it has 2 internal and 2 external SATAs [15:48] i suspect they go in conflict, but that doesnt make sense. both controllers are detected just fine when i boot my slax [15:49] Only 2 internal SATAports on mobo [15:49] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-205-218.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:50] they shouldnt conflict, it must be a bios setting, try changing bios settings around and see how you can get it to work together [15:50] i met this guy with fisheyes, he looked like Chong in Cheech'n'Chong, but with fisheyes, and talked all hyper.. [15:50] i couldn't get over his eyes, so I had to tell him his eyes are about to pop out of his head [15:50] they where already half way out [15:51] can u paint it to us? [15:51] you could see it from the side [15:51] my bad [15:52] ok ima get my operator to change the settings, but it gonna be a hard one LMAO.... all he knows is how to turn on a playstation [15:52] what do you mean? you cant do it yourself? [15:52] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.213) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:52] computer is at the other side of the country [15:52] then you teach him how no? [15:53] oh its a server? [15:53] but Norway is thin, only takes a few hours to go to the other side [15:53] eavesdrop (devnull@SDF.ORG) joined ##slackware. [15:53] im not gonna explain Anything! just move him around like a drone [15:53] you'll feel better if/when it works. [15:53] whatever... I would [15:53] Fishdrone [15:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430460.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:54] fish phonecall [15:54] Yup, atlantic seacable. [15:54] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:55] good word :) [15:55] im sooo confused [15:55] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] SvenJarl: do they just have this big ass spool on a boat and drop it in the water? [15:56] SvenJarl: what if something is under the cable? [15:56] thats why they club seals [15:56] :D [15:56] KaMii: thats actually the nice thing to do these days [15:56] Action: arfon is lost [15:57] arfon: im also sooo confused [15:57] fish what? [15:57] If the computer is on the other side of Norway, how are you going to fix it with a Playstation monkey? [15:58] webcam and skype [15:58] Hey, I heard its sysadmins day today... [15:58] then sift throu the BIOS settings :)))) [15:58] so Happy sysadmins day! [15:58] Action: arfon sees fail all over this :( [15:58] no [15:58] that don't happen [15:59] KaMii: go fix it for them.... [15:59] hahaha [15:59] HAPPY SYSADMIN DAY :D [15:59] i never been to norway, but it would be fun [15:59] is it on the east coast of norway SvenJarl ? [15:59] west [15:59] Isn't it next door? [15:59] Bergen [15:59] oh, well then hes closer to it arfon [16:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:00] Sven, hop in the Saab and go fix it. [16:00] Do you guys use /usr/local for software you install yourself, or do you put everything in /usr/bin? [16:00] rirombo: I use /usr/local/sbin/ [16:01] I've been making packages and installing them to /usr, but now am wonering if it wouldn't be more logical to use /usr/local.. [16:01] or opt might work [16:01] /usr is better [16:01] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] IMHO [16:02] /usr/local/bin/sysadmin [16:02] \Program Files\ is better :P [16:02] hahaha [16:02] probably, but you have to judge via where you actually are [16:02] if i build some things that i know wont need librarys i often use ~/bin as my home partition can interchange with any linux install [16:03] Program Files is funnier [16:03] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:03] KaMii: got it, everyone else thought "that's windows, he's wrong" [16:03] no everyone else just ignored you. [16:03] :( [16:03] haha [16:03] That makes me sad [16:03] i laughed arfon [16:03] Guys, is there any decent way to send an AT command while pppd is running, get the response, and return to ppp-mode? [16:03] TY K [16:04] rirombo: for packages I personally would use --prefix=/usr. I install scripts and such to /usr/local/, scripts that only are for one user go in ~/bin/ [16:04] Redb3ard: minicom? [16:04] I know I can shut it down, do that, and restart it. But the best I can possibly manage is about 2-3 minutes before things are back to normal. [16:04] SvenJarl: why is your computer soo far away from you? it must be your server right? [16:04] Redb3ard: ALT+F2 minicom [16:05] BP{k}: That's actually exactly what I have been doing :D [16:05] LifeForce4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [16:05] /usr/local is the real correct way to build 'stuff' for like global root blah blah blah [16:05] Arfon, if I force minicom to open the modem device while pppd is running, I can't seem to get its attention even with a +++. [16:05] And I suspect that if I do, pppd will still croak. [16:05] Thanks for the input! [16:06] Redb3ard: AT is for attention [16:06] Well, if it's a wireless modem device it has other serial ports for AT commands... If it's a plain modem, sending AT commands will drop the ppp (as far as I know) [16:06] Redb3ard: +++ is not much [16:06] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:06] This one's a plain modem. A few of the others are like that though. [16:06] eg ppp=ttyUSB0 minicom=ttyUSB1 [16:07] Will the other serial ports accept commands while it's running? [16:07] I've never even tried. [16:07] Redb3ard: and you can not, actually you can... run more then one stuff across a serial port, but... the 'modem' would get really confused [16:07] If it's a plain modem, it probably has only one serial port [16:08] I like my word 'stuff' [16:08] The novatel creates 4 serials, the Zoom creates 3. But the multitech is more like a plain modem, even if it is gprs. [16:08] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> lf4 [16:09] Redb3ard: a modem even like gprs type, wants serial port all to itself [16:09] My understanding is that it's not the hardware that can't handle this... [16:09] Just pppd wants it exclusively. [16:10] no pppd, runs after you make the phystical connection [16:10] Redb3ard: make sense? [16:10] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.81) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.224.96.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:11] Redb3ard: if you want to, can you please explain that again? [16:12] There is no reason why with software using the modem, a second piece of software couldn't do a +++ATWhatever, get the response, and then with another AT command put it back into data mode. [16:12] Redb3ard: one last thing, you don't create, a physical connection, unless its with real wires (etc) [16:12] Other than the fact that if that software is pppd, it gets the shit confused out of it. [16:13] pppd will ONLY work if you already have a connection, physically already..... [16:13] i hate commercials on tv [16:14] Redb3ard: for some reason it sounds like you are trying to do that the other way around... [16:14] Nevermind. There's a language barrier or something here. [16:14] probably. [16:14] 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 [16:16] usuarios linux en mobile blackberry, si tienes blackberry [16:16] unete al grupo atravez del ping 214835EC [16:16] when you use the AT actually that is making your physical connection... [16:16] Redb3ard.. [16:16] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [16:16] ummmm s4lv4d0r English only please [16:17] Action: KaMii frowns on leet speech nicks [16:18] grazymax (~grazymax@host228-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:18] eniomarconcini (~chatzilla@ns1.santafedosul.sp.gov.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:19] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:19] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:20] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [16:26] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Be excellent to each other. [16:28] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-27-117.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:29] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-52-202.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:29] GAH! will this day ever end????? [16:30] arfon: its nice, drink beer [16:30] hahaha [16:30] Action: KaMii has ouzo [16:30] arfon: earlier 30 minutes was like 5 hours [16:33] Action: arfon still has 1.5 hours of hell to go through.... [16:33] grazymax (~grazymax@host236-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:33] this is draaaaaaaaaaaging [16:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] what do you do arfon ? [16:34] Action: arfon wants to go home to his high speed connection with a full sized screen so he can tug Rabbit's ears [16:34] suffer K, suffer [16:34] hahaha [16:34] suffer for who? [16:34] thats what I was about to say arfon [16:35] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:35] State of Texas [16:35] ha, you knowing me now [16:35] no one to execute today? [16:35] beat you to it Rabbit [16:35] :) [16:35] Not today KaMii,maybe things will pick up tomorrow though. [16:35] you ever seen twilight, where the dude turns into the big wolf? [16:35] lol thats soo bad [16:35] I haven't [16:36] You started it missy [16:36] but I wanna be able to turn into a rabbit, as the size of a rabbit [16:36] Yes rabbit [16:36] but morph kinda the same way [16:36] a wererabbit? I'm terified [16:36] which is odd, irc gets all gay, but [16:37] a gun shop just opened up by my place.. [16:37] IF you did, I'd have to get The Holy Handgrenade of Antioch. [16:37] so maybe there will be..... [16:37] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Quit: Saindo [16:37] lil more excite ment around here [16:37] wabbit season? [16:37] in midtown Anchorage.. [16:37] hahaahaha, holy handgrenade [16:37] drug dealer season hopefully [16:38] ?me wonders if KaMii got that...? [16:38] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [16:38] or user, I should say user [16:38] the dealers are cool [16:38] are they cool when you dont pay? [16:38] yes i have seen monty pythons quest for the holy grail [16:38] i don't buy [16:38] Action: arfon like KaMii [16:38] arfon: i fart in your general direction [16:38] i think its a cash only kinda thing mostly [16:38] its not like L.A. or anything [16:39] You smell of elderberry KaMii [16:39] where you can swipe your card [16:39] the castle Antrhax? [16:39] That wasn't my question rabbitear, are they cool when you dont pay? [16:39] I will not answer you arfon [16:39] you're fishing [16:40] in a pond somewhere [16:40] Not really, I'm justtryingto establish that dealers aren't cool [16:40] the castle full on 16 year old girls that have nothing to do all day but get naked and make exciting underwear, hahahaha [16:40] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-gzyazfaiffaufwco) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:40] arfon's fantasy castle [16:40] arfon: well, we do not have to agree on everything [16:40] arfon: generally yes [16:41] ONLY if it has DSL KaMii .... only if [16:41] arfon: okay, in general yes, I can agree with that [16:41] sorry rabbitear, you lost me... [16:42] I'm agreeing with 'the fact' that dealers aren't cool [16:42] tekzilla (~jon@d030064.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:42] 99.9% of the time [16:42] dealers being the short version of "drug dealers" [16:42] arfon: if you do not do what say, I shall say Ni to you! [16:42] Don't get me wrong rabbitear, I'm not trying to argue with you but, dealers are generally nasty mean people who will do you harm... [16:43] in texas specially [16:43] KaMii is a Knight Whos Says Ni? [16:43] knightess [16:43] Ones here are REALLY mean [16:43] arfon: you got kids to take care of? [16:44] j/k [16:44] Yep [16:44] now go or I shall taunt you a second time [16:44] tekzilla (~jon@d031066.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:44] more power to ya arfon [16:44] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] KaMii: What's the velocity of an unladened swallow? [16:44] Action: KaMii thinks arfon is a used car saleman [16:44] arfon: what do you mean, an African or a European Swallow? [16:44] green, no red! [16:45] i wish, selling cars and ripping people off would be less painful than this job. [16:45] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [16:45] lol [16:45] lol [16:45] KaMii: Uh, I don't kn... AHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh [16:45] So I'm trying to sign on Skype, from the sbo I got. It says "signing in" but it's been 5 minutes. [16:45] the castle AAAaaaarrrgghhhh [16:46] Any idea how to get skype to work? [16:46] portable box that makes sound. [16:46] riza, mine took a while to the first time signing in. but not as long as 5 mins [16:46] talk radio [16:46] arfon: I'm actually kinda happy I am not as """messedup""" as you are right now [16:47] crashdata, after that signing in was instantaneous [16:47] arfon: but I have been there bfore [16:47] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] rabbitear: Huh? [16:47] You lost me [16:48] arfon: when time don't move [16:48] actually saying it is even worse [16:48] Oh, my dragging day [16:48] my neighbor is hailing me if you would be so kind [16:48] arfon: build a ship in a bottle :) [16:49] That would be frowned on at work... :( [16:49] riza: get sound to work... [16:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:49] arfon: secret project [16:50] anywayz, only so many ideas, [16:50] lol @ rabbitear [16:51] My secret project: last for another 1.25 hours then go home and build a degraded RAID arrray... :) [16:51] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:52] I would let KaMii help but I fear I would find extra copies of Perl and Emacs on it... [16:52] arfon: well.... don't know what to tell you [16:52] arfon: goodluck with your 1.25 hours [16:52] Ty rabbitear [16:53] Good luck with your hail [16:53] perl and emacs on what? [16:53] I hope it doesn't dent your car [16:53] My degraded RAID array KaMii [16:53] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:54] Action: KaMii knows nothing about raid and array [16:54] i dont even know what an array is [16:54] hey! I wasn't the one *puts up hand* [16:54] ^^and TOTALLY missed my joke. [16:54] I'm glad. [16:54] Action: riza dances. [16:55] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:55] What pushed your happy button riza ? [16:55] I think Skype works. [16:55] YAY! [16:55] wait, your deaf.... [16:56] she is a female, but I don't have a car :/ [16:56] so I'm good. [16:56] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:56] easy [16:57] wait, thats a bad word [16:57] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: homerun! [16:57] FINALLY my one downed T1 just came up... YAY [16:59] its funny, because I am glad that it came back up for you [16:59] TY rabbitear [16:59] no, tahnkyou arfon [17:00] •KaMii• no dice... BIOS cannot do the trick, seems i need jedi powers for this. [17:00] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:01] SvenJarl (~Mono@95.169.46.32) left irc: Quit: XP [17:01] awwww [17:01] You need google-fu Sven... [17:03] Sigh, people dunno know anything about deafness. [17:03] asamoah (~caio@wiltel.wilnet.com.ar) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:03] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-200.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] sorry cant help you riza [17:04] Alrighttttt. [17:05] oh, svenjarl went offline [17:05] wut? [17:06] I was going to see if he could do SATA to IDE and connect the other HDDS that way [17:06] grazymax (~grazymax@host236-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:06] he probably went out to the club [17:06] its like kl 23.00 now [17:07] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:07] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [17:07] I have wireless modem connections [17:07] have = hate [17:08] why [17:09] i only use wifi for my psp [17:09] nothing else [17:09] 3It drops too much like just now [17:09] I hate wireless modems [17:09] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:10] cdma modems would be better, I think, then freakin MaxWI [17:10] MaxWI sucks bad [17:10] wimax? [17:10] why does it suck iheard its good [17:10] yeah, wimax [17:10] its not... [17:10] they are using in northern sweden a lot i heard [17:10] because you have to have it, in a 'high' al [17:11] what do you mean high al? [17:12] altitude [17:12] sorry, distractions [17:12] sweden is one flat piece of granit rock you know [17:13] Clear wireless rocks when you can get a signal [17:13] I got a 7mb download the other night [17:13] i think thats why its good here [17:13] we get like 150mb up and down on wireless from celltower [17:14] what's the bsd channels? [17:14] it's ashame you only have a 64mb computer hooked to it K [17:14] #freebsd [17:15] I don't care for FreeBSD. [17:15] Action: KaMii has more than one computer [17:15] but i dont use wireless internet [17:15] arfon, i'm going to master *bsd [17:15] im on fiber [17:15] why can't i join those channels,kamii [17:16] maybe they dont like you [17:16] try ##freebsd [17:16] When I used to run it, I would hang out in FreeBSD channels and news groups and more often than not, the 'experts' would respond to newbies questions with, "How many times do we have to answer that noob? Go RTFM" [17:16] kamii, they don't like me... [17:16] I had a clue, it was to people trying out FreeBSD [17:17] i'm reading the manual... i just want to be in the channel [17:17] This was MANY years ago but their attitude stuck in my head. [17:17] see whats ^\ [17:17] fsck em [17:17] they're confident nerds [17:17] afternoon guys [17:17] arfon: same in the macOSX channel [17:17] arrogant [17:17] they suck [17:17] Yep [17:17] ...and girls [17:17] but they were very friendly to me in #FreeBSD [17:18] Good way to win users and enlarge your base, tell em, to get a clue and RTFM... nice [17:18] I guess that why FreeBSD isn't as large as Linux? [17:19] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.81) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:19] haha [17:19] true [17:19] Hi zaythan [17:19] but there are some in here that say the same thing to [17:19] im always told to RTFM [17:19] or man foo [17:19] or yesterday, i was referred to google, when asking about a good manual for sed [17:20] Dang in, that T1 went back down.... [17:20] Action: KaMii didnt know google was a manual [17:21] That's because you keep asking what the syntax is for shutdown KaMii [17:21] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:21] hahaha arfon [17:21] ;) [17:21] arfon: how do I ctrl + alt + delete? [17:21] rirombo (~rirombo@h207.12.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:22] It's the button on the front of your computer :) [17:22] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.81) joined ##slackware. [17:22] i spent all day searching for the 'ANY' key, i cant smurfing find it [17:23] nvision (~nvision@g226062238.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:24] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] just remember to also NOT spill any drinks when you put them on your computer cup holder [17:24] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Action: KaMii needs to upgrade this computer so I can get the cupholder option [17:25] My cup holder is broken, it keeps closing and spilling my drink into my keybsasdfj.. [17:25] y3llow (~y3llow@111-251-148-150.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:26] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-251-148-150.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:26] arfon: i do hope you are using the ubuntu cd for a coaster inside the cup holder [17:26] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:27] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] FreeBSD install disc [17:27] I put hot stuff on my Opensolaris CDs [17:27] i liked fbsd for the short time i tried it out [17:27] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:28] did you try the plan 9 frisbee? [17:28] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-213-145.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-213-145.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] I liked NetBSD but, they just didn't keep up with it :( [17:28] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:28] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:30] has anybody els noticed a differnce in the md5sum in the google-chrome slackbuild?? [17:30] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:30] umm, nope, why whats wrong with it? [17:30] Not em zaythan [17:30] me [17:31] its off the script says its suppose to be one thing but what i download is something differnt [17:31] then you got a bad download [17:31] redownload [17:32] zaythan_ (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] thats what i thought but i have done it 3 times [17:32] if your md5sum doesnt match, it means the file is corrupt [17:32] hrm, check it directly off google then [17:32] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@186.66.6.51) joined ##slackware. [17:33] Not to insult your intelligence but did you grab the correct version? [17:33] make sure you are downloading the same source version the slackbuild is using, maybe your downling a newer version [17:33] I WIN! [17:33] hahaha arfon [17:33] we think alike [17:33] zaythan_ (zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left ##slackware. [17:33] THAT's scary [17:33] 100% [17:33] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@186.66.6.51) left irc: Client Quit [17:33] That's why I have a yearing for Techno-abba [17:33] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:33] arfon: go to neradio.se [17:33] i suppose it is possible i am using a sbo pkg to pull it down tho [17:33] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:34] and click on the international one, the best techno-free internet radio ever [17:34] boom-tiss boom-tiss boom-tiss "take a chance on me" boom-tiss [17:34] and their motto is, 'why do you need porn when you can have NERadio' [17:34] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-52-202.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:34] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:35] Do they play thing's like Vader's Rap? [17:35] Fett's Vette? [17:35] they play all kindsa stuff 24/7 no commercials [17:35] I'll check it out once I get home and if I remember :) [17:35] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:36] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm outta heeere... [17:36] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] 27 more minutes [17:36] afron just write it down [17:36] You mean with a pen and paper? [17:36] hahah [17:36] or if you have a smart phone..... [17:37] Action: arfon has dumb phone [17:37] I'm a rotary POTs man [17:37] This touch tone stuff is a fad [17:37] you have a rotary cellphone??? i want one [17:37] I wish [17:38] Those things are way too expensive [17:38] wait, they really m ake them? [17:38] Yes, google is your friend [17:38] cool, im so going to get one [17:38] No you won't, they are expensive [17:39] how much [17:39] I can't remember but more than I wanted to pay [17:40] i will google when apollo 13 ends, its almost over [17:40] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:40] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:41] KaMii: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=287 [17:41] howdy folks :-) [17:41] KaMii: They all survive [17:41] Hi macavity [17:43] 2 pounds??? [17:43] that thing is heavy [17:43] is that a portoroto phone in your pocket, or do you have cancer in the ..... [17:45] i like how its red, its like the red phone the us president has [17:45] Think of it this way KaMii , it's only .8Kg [17:45] They have other colors [17:45] imagine pulling that out of your bag when your downtown to call someone [17:45] hahahaha [17:45] or your bag starts rining hahahah [17:45] everyone is like what the smurf is going on? [17:46] Pull it out and everyone will be like "Holy Smurf"! [17:47] "That's a smurfing phone!" [17:47] they will think your a terrorist [17:47] ..or they might think that your the kewlest person on the bus. [17:48] lmfao [17:48] ...or the biggest idiot. [17:48] ^^ idiot for sure [17:48] they will be like, your such a n00b [17:48] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:48] Yeah but that will be those snobby apple people.... [17:48] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:48] arfon: get it, and go to work with it, and put it on your desk [17:48] your boss will worship the ground you walk on [17:49] No, he would think that I'm an idiot... [17:49] hahaha [17:49] how can i test how fast my linux RAID-1 setup is? [17:49] he would want to have your children [17:49] readwrite a big file and time it Dusty [17:49] jlarrew (~WallRat00@rrcs-71-42-176-234.sw.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:50] Yeah, but I wouldn't want to have his, KaMii [17:50] ryuranger (~tmsuarez@187.7.99.201) joined ##slackware. [17:50] arfon: isnt there any dedicated tools for the job [17:50] what does hdparm do [17:50] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [17:50] Probaby is but I don't use them... [17:50] ok frank [17:50] frank? [17:50] who the smurf is frank? [17:50] haha sorry its a habbit [17:50] :) [17:51] NP [17:51] oh, im frank, thats right i remember now, im actually a 65 year old fat man that lives in his moms basement [17:51] hdparm -t /dev/hda [17:51] dustybin: hdparm -tT /dev/fubar [17:51] ace [17:51] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:51] How's that comic book collection KaMii ? [17:51] its bitchin [17:51] its a crappy benchmark though.. [17:51] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] jlarrew (~WallRat00@rrcs-71-42-176-234.sw.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:52] Action: arfon would write/read a big file and time it [17:52] the black hole i call a brain tells me that there should be something called "bonnie++" that should be better for the job [17:52] /dev/sda1: Timing buffered disk reads: 274 MB in 3.01 seconds = 91.14 MB/sec [17:52] .. if you want to know about access times etc [17:52] im not sure if thats good or bad [17:52] sounds slow [17:52] what was it BEFORE you RAIDed? [17:52] im not sure [17:53] ill try a unraided disk [17:53] Does the disc have the same size buffers and platter speed? [17:53] raid1 is just a plain old mirror.. it wont give you better performance [17:53] dustybin: what speed does the HDD say it is? like from the manufacturer [17:53] Timing buffered disk reads: 224 MB in 3.00 seconds = 74.65 MB/sec [17:53] you need some 0+1 setup if you want it to go really fast [17:54] ask spook [17:54] i dont need really fast [17:54] dustybin: thats really slow i think [17:54] that was a unraided disk [17:54] KaMii: no, not really for plain raid1 [17:54] dustybin: it is a two disk setup, right? [17:54] oh ok, i never raided anything before [17:54] /dev/sda1: Timing buffered disk reads: 274 MB in 3.01 seconds = 91.14 MB/sec <-- RAID 1 [17:54] dont see why i need raid [17:54] Timing buffered disk reads: 224 MB in 3.00 seconds = 74.65 MB/sec <-- NO RAID [17:55] so both disks are running too slow? [17:55] i wonder why [17:55] nope [17:55] looks fine [17:55] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [17:55] oh good :D [17:55] 32% faster... [17:55] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Action: dustybin feels excited [17:56] what disks are they? [17:56] Action: arfon feels excited... 7 more minutes [17:56] Timing buffered disk reads: 352 MB in 3.01 seconds = 116.88 MB/sec [17:56] thats my regular samsung spinpoint 500GB [17:56] this is hdparm -tT [17:57] Timing cached reads: 8482 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4242.42 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 388 MB in 3.01 seconds = 128.97 MB/sec [17:57] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:57] the T just measures the speed of the cached transfere [17:57] but again, what setup is this? two older 5400RPM disks? [17:57] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:58] strange, i got different readings now [17:58] you always do [17:58] Timing buffered disk reads: 386 MB in 3.01 seconds = 128.44 MB/sec <-- LINUX RAID 1 [17:58] my Netbook: Timing cached reads: 1494 MB in 2.00 seconds = 747.76 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 222 MB in 3.02 seconds = 73.53 MB [17:58] /sec [17:58] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:58] as i said, this is not a very good benchmark [17:58] Timing buffered disk reads: 224 MB in 3.00 seconds = 74.61 MB/sec <-- NO RAID [17:58] ok [17:59] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:59] those two disks are *i-d-e-n-t-i-c-a-l*, right? [18:00] macavity: yes, 2x seagate 5900.12 [18:00] 500GB [18:00] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@host130-66-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:00] man.. that IS slow.. [18:00] what is? [18:00] actually sorry [18:00] 7200.12 [18:00] 2x seagate 7200.12 [18:01] i get ~120MB/s on my single 500GB disk [18:01] i wonder why its so slow? [18:01] could this be the work of malware, spyware? [18:01] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:01] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-131.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:01] 75MB/s is not slow. [18:01] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:02] well, humans (and BOB), I am OUTTA here! [18:02] i dont know.. are you runing windows on that thing?!? ;-) [18:02] I get 57.64 MB/sec on my laptop's sata drive (7200 RPM) [18:02] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-9-134.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:02] thumbs: thats a laptop drive.. they are consistantly slow ass [18:02] its like good tv nighttonite, now its battlestar galactica mini seris [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [18:03] getting ~75MB/s on a modern 500GB sata drive is not good.. unless it is a total under cutter of a CPU, or a severely crappy chipset [18:04] macavity: 60 MB/s on my old P4 sata drive, too. [18:04] macavity: in fact, none of my machines exceed 60. [18:04] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:04] O_O [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423799.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] its not like this was an expencive drive or anything [18:05] macavity: I should try linux on this UW320 SCSI box to see too. [18:05] i mean, the Samsung Spinpoint F2 drives are nothing special... completely regular desktop disks [18:06] ok sims 3 time [18:06] macavity: and I get 15 MB/s on my old IDE drive! [18:06] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:07] so that means linux raid-1 126.70 MB/sec sounds about right [18:07] i think it sounds slow.. [18:07] but maybe that is just me [18:07] I get 60 on my two-year-old lappy HD [18:07] I disagree with macavity [18:07] me too [18:07] thrice`: mine's three years old. [18:08] thrice`: so that's about right. [18:08] indeed [18:08] ask spook.. [18:08] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:08] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [18:09] jlarrew (~WallRat00@rrcs-71-42-176-234.sw.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:09] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.81) joined ##slackware. [18:09] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:11] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:12] jlarrew (~WallRat00@rrcs-71-42-176-234.sw.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:13] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:13] macavity: ohh, I just got 82.04 MB/sec on a new IDE PATA drive. [18:13] DURgod (~DURgod@75-133-90-59.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:15] macavity: ST3250820A [18:15] Action: dustybin feels scared [18:15] considering it's the most recent drive we got, it must be using perpendicular heads. [18:17] thumbs: with what ? hdparm ? bonnie ? iozone ? [18:17] adaptr: hdparm -Tt [18:17] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE013.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [18:18] that is doable. if you got it in bonnie++ I would begin to doubt the PATA bit [18:18] adaptr: that's an old slack box, I have to set up bonnie++ on it. [18:18] any particular reason canada hasn't moved to SATA yet ? [18:19] adaptr: I inherited all the unused PATA drives. [18:19] adaptr: heck, it was brand new. [18:19] make a floppy cluster! [18:19] I know the feeling, we have plenty of 80GB SATA drives lying around. they're pretty much useless now [18:19] adaptr: I made a LVM with them [18:19] adaptr, me too. Useless old pata/sata drives. :'( [18:19] we're moving everythign to vmware, on SANs [18:20] spiraliz_ (~spiraliz@72.81-167-30.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] adaptr: this is my movie server at the office, it's fun. [18:21] Nick change: spiraliz_ -> spira|iz [18:21] did yuo do anything kinky with LVM, like striping ? [18:21] adaptr: mirrors. [18:22] adaptr: 6x 250 GB drives, 3 RAID1 arrays. [18:22] mdadm? [18:23] dustybin: yes. [18:23] ace [18:23] so no LVM, then [18:23] adaptr: yes, LVM on top of RAID. [18:23] thumbs: do you also have 2x linux RAID-5 arrays? [18:23] ic [18:23] DURgod (~DURgod@75-133-90-59.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:24] dustybin: no. [18:25] I really should begin re-organizing my fileserver, but I'm reluctant to re-install [18:25] adaptr: install distro, mdadm, lvm, samba + nfs, done. [18:26] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:26] ...not really, with 8TB raw filled with ~3TB of video [18:26] let's say I need to keep the data, just for kicks [18:27] okay, I'll explainy: my original 4x 750 has 2 mirrors on it with OS and /home., 4x 4GB total. the rest is /video [18:28] I recently added 4x1500 with /video...2, and copied the lot over [18:28] but until I have a replacement OS I can't remove the original drives and replace them wit the 4x1000 I have in my desktop [18:28] Action: jeev wonders what adaptr does with 4tb [18:28] and whileI need to move that OS I thought I might as well install slackware instead, and I might as well put it on the spare (and failing) SSD I have [18:28] oh /video eh [18:30] skycrash (1000@187.59.40.122) joined ##slackware. [18:30] if one was going to build a storage server, maybe use this: http://www.openfiler.com/ [18:30] ? [18:30] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [18:31] hi all slackers \o [18:31] Action: dustybin imagines a 10TB beast using 3ware RAID cards running openfiler [18:31] dustybin: certainly. for purpose specific stuff that's a decent solution [18:31] aye [18:31] that's a lot of adult videos adaptr carries [18:31] and 10TB these days is not that much... [18:32] yep [18:32] /msg adaptr send me images. [18:32] ananke: is that on FreeBSE ? and if so, does it support FBSD raid-5 properly ? [18:32] or even raid-z, these [18:32] adaptr: openfiler is linux based [18:32] *days [18:32] ah, pity [18:32] what is best for use to crypt just my home folder in slack ?? [18:32] you may be thinking of freenas [18:33] probably! [18:33] skycrash: luks is probably the most common method in linux these days [18:33] freenas can be run off a flash disk, it's small [18:33] openfiler has bells and stuff [18:33] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:34] indeed. openfiler is definitely feature driven [18:34] freenas supports raid-z whatever that is [18:34] dustybin: it's sun's technology: zfs [18:34] ok [18:34] dustybin: it is the ubergod of storage [18:34] which is debatable :) [18:34] so maybe its worth using freenas just for that reason [18:34] online conversion, expansion, and better-than-raid-6 redundancy, and SPEED [18:34] ananke: right =) [18:35] dustybin: it's worth evaluating the most common options [18:35] ananke: for a software solution, you beat it! [18:35] what is the minimum amount of drives required for raid-z [18:36] 3 ? 4 ? 26 ? [18:36] ok [18:36] 'RAID-Z avoids the RAID 5 "write hole"' [18:37] it would be nice to have zfs in mainstream linux. and it's a shame that its future is uncertain, thanks to oracle [18:37] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:37] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:37] with the recent spate of utterly failing new fsen, ...yeah [18:38] is the zfs code highly complex? [18:38] i'm using multimonitor and i have two different X session in each one. How I can star KDE on one and Xfce on another? [18:38] startx --session=foo ? [18:38] dustybin: try maintaining something as critical as filesystem with developers who haven't participated on the design. [18:39] eeek [18:40] ananke: is raid-z similar to raid-5, if i used 3 drives, i would have 2 drives worth of storage free [18:41] dustybin: yes [18:41] ace :D [18:41] that does sound good [18:41] maybe i could run a freenas qemu / kvm virtual machine [18:41] since it does not have exclusive IO access, that would suck [18:42] well, perhaps a KVM with vtd would [18:42] yep [18:42] i need to research [18:43] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:45] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:45] ballcutter (~ballcutte@h-98-104-137-210.ip.alltel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:57] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) joined ##slackware. [18:57] i'm using multimonitor and i have two different X session in each one. How I can start KDE on one and Xfce on another monitor? [18:59] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-48.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] I had the same question 20 minutes ago and I'm kinda lame.. what happens when I ask it again ? [19:00] my connection [19:00] heh :) [19:02] https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/ [19:03] yeah... any idea why they removed it from the stable kernel, dustybin ?:P [19:03] oh not sure [19:04] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [19:07] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:12] Nick change: Sir_Konrad_ -> Sir_Konrad [19:13] Sir_Konrad (~Konrad@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) left irc: Changing host [19:13] Sir_Konrad (~Konrad@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [19:17] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [19:18] Sir_Konrad_ (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:20] Sir_Konrad_ (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Client Quit [19:23] Nick change: Sir_Konrad -> ABC123 [19:23] Nick change: ABC123 -> Sir_Konrad [19:25] Nick change: Sir_Konrad -> AAAAA [19:25] Nick change: AAAAA -> Sir_Konrad [19:28] nvision (~nvision@g226062238.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:30] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [19:30] What is the best way to rip a CD into ISO? [19:30] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [19:30] yesyes (yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [19:31] mkiso [19:31] mkisofs [19:31] Interesting... [19:33] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-48.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [19:34] Sir_Konrad_ (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [19:34] you can make an iso out of any collection of files with mkisofs [19:34] riza: "rip"? [19:35] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:35] riza: if it is an audio CD, then cdparanoia is the defacto tool [19:35] riza: if it is a data CD and you want a 1:1 copy, then dd is the way to go [19:36] riza: eg, dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/mycdimage.iso [19:36] afk [19:38] but that can get you copying alot of blank space [19:39] Sir_Konrad_ (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad_ [19:39] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.139) joined ##slackware. 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[19:57] A game cd. [19:57] Like say, Starcraft. [19:58] backing up your cds is perfectly legit [19:59] frankly they're so cheap to produce i always though you should get 2 with one being a premade backup [19:59] Skywise, yep! [19:59] I have the CDs here so no big deal. [20:00] But, audio aside, some of it are old games that aren't in production anymore. [20:00] Total Annihilation, I want to give it to someone. [20:01] well if there is copy protection on it, you'll need special software to crack it and make a good copy [20:01] have you checked out spring the open source ta clone [20:02] theres a windows application called alcohol 120% which is good with copy protection [20:02] i don't know of a linux analog [20:02] spider1010 (spider101@ip98-179-8-161.om.om.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:04] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:06] uhmm, if you want to give it to someone, just give them your copy [20:06] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:07] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:10] Nah no copy protection, I know of it. [20:11] ananke, she wants a permanent copy. :D [20:11] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Too far, I'll just rip the iso, let her download off me, then voila. [20:11] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. 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[20:38] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:38] Nick change: kacbep -> trhodes [20:42] holy cardinal [20:42] anyone still here? [20:42] nope [20:42] haha [20:43] everybody died [20:44] it was so sad, i'm still sniffling [20:46] riza: that no longer falls under fair use [20:47] hey [20:48] Haraken (ryuk@unaffiliated/haraken) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:48] i have two monitors each one with a X session on it. How I start differente DE in each monitor? [20:48] oi [20:48] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [20:48] riza: backing up your cd of a game (whether current or company out of business) is fair use. Giving someone else your backup copy is not fair use [20:52] skycrash (1000@187.59.40.122) left ##slackware. [20:55] alisonken1home, even if they are just to store it? [20:55] In a dark closet? [20:56] I quess physically handing it to someone is covered by the law. [20:56] byteframe: fair use means you can make a backup copy of your media - they don't say where you have to store it at :) however, you do have to make sure that your copy is the only one installed/running and not the backup copy [20:57] rirombo (~rirombo@h207.12.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: BRB [20:57] and just because the company is out of business doesn't mean the software is suddenly open source/public domain either [20:58] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) joined ##slackware. [21:05] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [21:05] greetings and salutations [21:05] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [21:06] Sir_Konrad_ (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. 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[21:48] people buy lots of crap/stuff from "out of business" blah blah [21:49] yeah havent you seen zohan the great where the electronics store was called 'going out of business'? :p [21:49] BOFH (~dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [21:50] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:51] thrice` (~ajb@c-76-112-72-153.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:52] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6AA85.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] garme (~garme@187.79.52.76) joined ##slackware. [21:54] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [21:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488FB9D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] hello all [21:56] "hello world" [21:57] hello sho.nudo [21:57] hey akira42 [21:57] sho.nudo? [21:57] sho nuf [21:58] the point is for not highlighting you (some IRC clients have this feature, where, when your actual nick is posted, it is highlighted with a color or your client makes a noise our the channel where your name was postet blinks etc.) [21:58] akira42: I prefer people to highlight me :P but mine doesn't make a sound [21:59] raela: ok :P [21:59] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [21:59] akira42: if people are bothered by it, they can turn it off or alter it [22:00] raela: hm ... that's a point [22:01] i also prefer highlighting (i've selected it in options) [22:01] there's a choice [22:01] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] me too :P [22:01] trhodes_ (~tom@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] hey Alan_Hicks [22:01] Nick change: trhodes -> trhodes__ [22:01] did you solve the app thing you were working on? [22:01] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:02] Nick change: trhodes_ -> trhodes [22:02] BOFH (~dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:02] Khratos (~jespinal@66.128.60.148) joined ##slackware. [22:02] Sir_Konrad_ (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad_ [22:03] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [22:04] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [22:04] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [22:05] why is yasm package 0.8.0? the current version is 1.0.1 [22:06] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [22:06] foobarz, which version of slack are you running? [22:06] slackware64-current [22:07] stormtracknole (stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) left ##slackware. [22:08] garme (~garme@187.79.52.76) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:10] yasm is in extra [22:10] its not needed for much iirc [22:11] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Quit: leaveing [22:12] GooseYAr1 (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] the only thing its useful for is building zsh [22:13] the x264 slackbuild needs it, so that is why I installed it, but I installed 1.0.1 [22:13] oh [22:14] stn (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:18] Nick change: trhodes__ -> trhodes_ [22:19] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. 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[22:39] ya know my favorite part about linux and more specifically slackware is the fact that you can troubleshoot for yourself [22:39] zaythan, you're hooked [22:39] admit it [22:39] you love slackware [22:39] :) [22:40] i do [22:41] my wife is jealous [22:41] i now pronounce you man and distro [22:41] she should be [22:41] lol [22:41] i am like two steps away from a fanboy [22:41] don't go there [22:41] HAHAH [22:43] yuck does anybody eles' firefox take 12 years to open?? [22:44] i think ff, like opera, offers an option to keep itself in ram (the wisdom of which is questionable) in order to open more quickly [22:44] not sure [22:44] Refused telnet@pool-71-191-44-186.washdc.fios.verizon.net (invalid handle: ron) [22:44] i use opera [22:44] and i'm a happy opera camper [22:45] ive been bouncing around trying to figure out which one i like most [22:45] i actually liked the original mozilla suite [22:45] the netscape fork, all things considered [22:46] im a thunderbird fan [22:46] i never did warm up to ff [22:46] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] hehe i think the netscape fork happened when i was like 12 [22:46] thanks for pointing out that i'm old, zaythan [22:47] :0 [22:47] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:47] hahah [22:47] yah ff seems sluggish and large [22:49] i like chrome for some of the functionality that it give my phone [22:49] but opera seems a bit more....polished [22:53] asjhdgaskd (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:53] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:58] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:58] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:58] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] if opera could get its act together from update to update, i'd be better with it [23:01] some of the changes seem unnecessary, gratuitous [23:06] right i dont think there is a perfect web browser it just depends on what your doing [23:10] all kidding aside, and an open question to all: who uses konqueror as their browser? [23:13] i dont think very many people use KDE [23:13] not sure about that [23:14] not sure many people consider konqueror as an option [23:14] i think there's a bunch of kde users [23:15] I want my own Constitution-class starship running Slackware [23:15] i want a ferrari with the same option [23:15] unixfool (~imac@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [23:16] i dunno what the demogralhic of KDE users is but id be interested to see [23:16] (more practical -- i hardly ever space travel) [23:16] no one uses textbrowsers? [23:16] akira42, that's also a good question [23:17] it would be interesting to find out what most people actually use [23:17] haha i only heard about lynx a couple o months ago [23:17] Action: akira42 uses elinks [23:19] it dose have its uses tho [23:19] s/dose/does/ [23:19] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:20] it's nice to read documentation with a text browser [23:20] there are anyway almost no pictures and texteditors are fully usable per keyboard [23:21] s/editors/browsers/ [23:21] I just want my dream home and compound running Slackware. [23:22] a slackware private island! [23:22] (okay, maybe that's too much) [23:22] ... how should an island run slackware? [23:22] well [23:22] haha i want my wife to run slackware\ [23:22] it should run it well [23:23] "the slackware wife" -- sounds like a great title for a movie [23:23] AIr defense rocket systems. [23:23] Hey, if you're a gifted roboticist. [23:24] rethink: "the slackware wives" [23:24] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:24] sort of like a takeoff on the stepford wives [23:25] you know, a joke really isn't any good if you have to explain it [23:25] hehe [23:27] i thought the joke was geeks getting married [23:27] lmao [23:27] Geeks marrying their computers. [23:28] "I take you in head crashes and in kernel panics." [23:28] now those are vows [23:29] hmmm... my wife like me cause im a geek....she calls me her "hot nerd" [23:29] tmi [23:29] what are her other nerds like? [23:30] haha [23:30] Rep. Wiener is boss. [23:31] DURgod (~DURgod@75-133-90-59.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:31] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [23:32] yoyoned (todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left ##slackware. 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