[00:00] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-117-66.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:00] i've had a migraine all day [00:00] it feels like my head and neck are in a slowly closing vice. [00:00] it seems as if there was a dir in /etc/ that has to do with gconf schemas that you may have had to remove manually form your previous gnome install. i dunno if the gsb uninstall docs told you about those. [00:00] antiwire: ouch [00:02] hmm... no info on that on gsb docs (not quite as unintrusive as they advertise ;p!) [00:02] Nick change: hackedhead_ -> hackedhead [00:06] CalgaryConehead (n=jardine@S010600a0c5e3aa5d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:08] anyway, gware feels way lighter than gsb [00:08] gtl: on a fresh install you will only have a couple of Desktop icons. of course the dot files and Desktop/ in your ~ dir could have an effect on that too. paths to icons on gsb may have been different too if you are talking about taskbar icons and such. [00:10] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:10] how is your cpu usage now? [00:10] hoho (n=email@190.166.112.240) joined ##slackware. [00:11] k mierda e [00:11] balse mmg [00:11] ola reevuhditchEE mooga booga [00:11] way lighter [00:11] gtl: good =) [00:11] thanks very much indeed [00:11] np [00:13] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:14] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] cueone (n=juan@ool-4574f241.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:14] I've discovered that it's the wobbly windows effect in kde4 that makes google earth so slow. I enable it, it's slow, I disable it, it's fine. [00:14] hrmmm , wobbly windows are cool. i use them with compiz fusion. [00:15] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl11-183-109.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:15] yeah, I did too when I used compiz, but with kde4's built-in wobbly windows, it makes google earth horribly slow. [00:16] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:16] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [00:16] silvergold, you have google earth actually working? [00:17] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:17] yeah, works fine here, just kde4 effects was slowing it to a crawl when the window was maximized, now I figured out which effect was causing it. [00:17] brklynRednek: yup, it works now with the new version. [00:17] well, i guess i will give up for the night...if anyone has a sudden revelation as to why ld cannot find ltcl8.4 even with TCL series installed, PM botnet plz... =^_^= have a good night everyone [00:17] brklynRednek: it was borken for me too for a while [00:18] i like that typo "borken" [00:18] bot-net (n=void@173-10-121-181-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:19] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:20] good night all [00:20] nite [00:21] night gtl [00:21] gtl: there is a #gware in case you are interested. but since gware is not broken we don't get much traffic. =) [00:21] :P [00:22] thanks I'll look into that [00:22] is there also a mailing list? [00:22] yup , check the website for that [00:23] alright, will subscribe to it ;) [00:23] unless erik took it down without tellin me. :P [00:23] haha [00:24] gtl: good to meet ya and enjoy. always good to meet new slackers. [00:24] :) [00:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:28] is there an ap that is "only a spell checker"? that would be kinda handy to check for certain words sometimes instead of opening a word proc or something. [00:28] ? [00:29] ispell? [00:29] dtanner: yes, there are a few out there. [00:29] aspell [00:29] works good [00:30] in xchat,pidgin,firefox etc [00:30] i am reading that manpage now [00:30] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.167.146) left irc: "gnite" [00:30] just wondering how to check for a word you are unsure of .. like 'aspell [someword-prolly-mispelled]' doesn't seem to work [00:31] from cli i am speaking of [00:31] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl10-118-125.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:31] seems i used aspell in that way a while back [00:32] echo "A line with a misspeled word" | aspell list [00:33] sweet, thanks [00:34] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.206.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:35] hmmm, i haven't pidgin (isntant messenging at all) in a long time. prolly forgot all my accounts info [00:35] mornin [00:35] hi dtanner =) [00:35] Hey tewmten [00:35] hey hashman! [00:35] silvergold: hoi [00:37] Jango is pretty damn cool. [00:37] jango? [00:37] there player actually works without flaw. [00:37] http://www.jango.com/ [00:38] ok, I'll check that out. thanks. [00:38] *yawn* [00:38] sippin coffee and checking the email [00:39] heh it fails on the site :P [00:39] bah that was lame [00:40] what failed? [00:40] silvergold: http://www.jango.com/stations/157164898/tunein?song_id=134546 check this out.. a station i created just for you :P [00:41] Action: silvergold checks [00:41] Red. \o/ [00:42] a letter off type for an artist [00:42] stype/typo [00:42] bah [00:42] humbug [00:42] lol [00:44] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [00:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:48] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:49] i have created "2" stations and they are numbered 1) and 3) . they have some flaws. and i don't understand if i picked Red and other bands are playing on the station. I guess they automagically put other groups in the same "genre" or sound similar to the band you picked to create a station. [00:50] looks a bit like www.last.fm [00:50] I think i am going to setup an mpd playlist to stream from this box [00:51] there is a html frontend for use with mpd so others can tune in and easily see your playlists etc. i forgot what the name of that web frontend is though. [00:51] yeah there is [00:51] like read-only access [00:51] yup [00:51] bleh [00:51] time to get to work soon [00:51] its almost 7pm here.. [00:51] later [00:52] im not leaving yet [00:52] :D [00:52] oh you said "soon" [00:52] gonna finish my breakfast first hehe [00:52] midnight here [00:52] im hungry [00:52] dtanner: my collar bone has healed now :) [00:52] great to hear. =) [00:52] tewmten: back to 100% [00:52] took a few weeks aye? [00:52] silvergold: no [00:52] silvergold: i still dont have the strength [00:53] dtanner: yeah 4 weeks [00:53] tewmten: well, at least it's healed. That's great news. [00:53] yeah [00:53] made x-rays yesterday and everything was fine [00:53] doc said i shouldnt do any heavy lifting [00:53] and in three weeks i start physiotherapy [00:53] oh you're going to love that. [00:53] so thats good [00:53] yeah i know physiotherapy sucks [00:54] i've had it before for my knee [00:54] I've done physical therapy so many times. [00:54] it sucks. [00:54] yerp [00:54] something very weird happened to me a few months ago. I was hurting in my lower rib cage on my left side, i told the doctor it feels like cracked ribs (she said NO WAY that i could not be sitting there the pain would be so bad) . so she did an xray and i had three cracked ribs exactly where i was showing her it was hurting. [00:54] but its needed [00:54] i never knew how it happened [00:54] unless it is with a young beautiful female therapist [00:54] twolf: with big titties [00:54] antiwire: me too [00:54] exactly [00:54] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [00:55] dtanner: haha yeah when i broke the collar bone my friends told me sort of the same thing [00:55] "nah its not broken, you would be crying like a girl then" [00:55] which i wasnt, but the bone was broken in two pieces hehe [00:55] couldnt even lift a cigarette [00:56] oh well, now i go [00:56] laters [00:56] lates [00:56] later tewmten [00:57] antiwire: I've discovered now, wobbly windows in kde4 seems to be the culprit of slow google earth. [00:58] twolf: hello =) [00:58] hey dtanner [01:01] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] I have a crush on Sarah Sharp aka: "The Geekess" and all I can see is her face. [01:02] My notifications are showing up. I just installed lib-notify from SBo. notify-send doesn't give me any errors, but nothing happens [01:02] dtanner: :O, what's your gf think of that? :P [01:02] hehe [01:02] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:02] I'm guessing she doesn't know. :P [01:02] damn, she sounds sexy, being known as "The Geekess" and all [01:02] twolf: sarah.thesharps.us [01:03] silvergold: thanks [01:03] yw [01:03] ahh yeah thats my kind of woman [01:03] j" [01:03] aren't* [01:03] Aren't showing up* ;) [01:05] twolf: I haven't read her page, so I don't know, but you think she uses slackware? :P [01:06] silvergold: difficult to say but it says she is into amateur rocketry so she is cool in my book [01:06] twolf: indeed [01:06] my girlfriend doesn't understand my rocket collection at all [01:07] twolf: she willing to learn to understand? :P [01:07] silvergold: well she enjoyed pushing the button a few weeks back when I was launching so maybe there is hope for her [01:08] haha [01:08] btw, Sarah is married. [01:08] hehe [01:09] hiptobecubic: you need a notification daemon too [01:09] rworkman, ... you may be on to something there! how silly of me [01:09] hiptobecubic: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/xfce4-notifyd/ [01:10] dtanner: I'm still listening to that station, it's playing Papa Roach Time and Time Again, I'd never heard that one, it's really good. [01:11] rworkman, is that the same is notification-daemon-xfce at SBo? [01:11] no [01:11] the SBo one is not 64bit ready anyway it looks like [01:12] It's not. Well, it is now, but that one won't be public until 13.0 [01:12] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-152.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [01:14] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [01:19] how does one enable tab completion with sudo? [01:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:22] hiptobecubic, you will have to set the sbin exports in .bashrc [01:22] kde/kdenetwork-4.2.4-x86_64-2.txz --- do I need restart X to upgrade that? [01:24] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:25] mfillpot, what do you mean? [01:26] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [01:26] hiptobecubic, you use the export command to tell bash what directories your executables are located in, most likely you cannot see the sbin items, am I correct? [01:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-156-251.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] mfillpot, no no I understand what you're saying. I took care of the path already. i mean that if you type `sudo firef` and push tab it doesn't fill in firefox but i will without sudo infront [01:29] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:29] hiptobecubic, ok that is wierd, you are right, I guees my method of typing the command before entering sudo blocked that issue [01:29] You may have to look at the bash compeletion stuff to see how its done [01:29] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [01:30] XGizzmo, there used to a package for this.. i'm krufting it into my current install right now [01:30] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:31] /slackware-12.2/extra/bash-completion [01:31] XGizzmo, yes there we go [01:31] it's not in -current though... [01:33] .... yes it is [01:33] -current for 64? [01:33] it's in normal -current. [01:33] it's in current just not 64-current [01:33] right [01:34] but its a noarch package so it should still work [01:35] ls [01:35] . .. [01:36] ;) [01:36] ./ [01:36] ../ [01:36] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:36] XGizzmo, yes it does. [01:37] te (n=te@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:37] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:38] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [01:41] anyone have any experience booting a livecd from a hard drive partition using lilo? [01:42] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.145.141) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [01:43] even with root = /dev/sda6 it still reads from /dev/sda1 [01:43] I have boot = /dev/sda set in lilo.conf [01:44] both sda1 and sda6 are set to active. [01:44] mrselfpwn, uhh, thats impossible [01:44] mrs elf pwn or mr self pwn? [01:44] how so edman007? [01:45] but irrelevant if its on the MBR [01:45] the mbr i have set with lilo [01:45] standard slack install [01:45] you can't only have one "active" partition per drive if its using an MBR partition scheme [01:45] can't or can? [01:46] twolf, i always read it as mr self pwn, and i believe it to be correct [01:46] can.. [01:46] my bad [01:46] right [01:46] Mrs. Elf Pwn [01:46] lol [01:46] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] lies [01:47] that makes no sense [01:47] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.125) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:47] which is fine. I would settle for being able to boot it from the primary (sda1) partition [01:47] `Mr. Self Pwn` makes sense [01:47] lol [01:47] antiwire, there are no women on irc, so a Mrs. is impossible [01:47] yeah right don't you know about Mrs. Elf Pwn? She's been pwning elves for years [01:47] left brain / right brain [01:48] lol [01:49] Well, i have the usb enabled to boot the OS. [01:49] Yet alas I'm on a netbook and both my usb slots are usually taken [01:50] so I'd like to boot the "live environment" from a hard drive partition. [01:51] and yes Mrs. [01:51] Elf Pwn is doing fine antiwire. [01:51] thanks for asking. [01:53] I know it's feasible because I read how it was done with grub. [01:54] I've sifted through lilo documentation and haven't gotten anything to work. [01:55] night all [01:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:55] good night [01:57] ok I have a file called "Xorg.0.log.old." I can't delete with "rm Xorg.0.log.old" as root. I get "rm: cannot remove "Xorg.0.log.old : Stale NFS file handle" [01:57] how can I delete this file? [01:57] init 1 [01:57] I dont have NFS running. [01:58] Is there anyone on current with digikam built and working well? I've tried building digikam 0.10.0 and I get: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/whf0Fj30.html. It was mentioned to me earlier that I don't need anything extra to install digikam on current. [01:58] skibur, rpf/nfsd running? [01:58] s/rpf/rpc/ [01:58] or portmap? [01:58] checking... [01:58] and you tried rm -f ? [01:58] -f = "force" [01:59] nothing [01:59] no rpf/nfsd running [01:59] nor portmap [01:59] hi [02:00] wired... ls -l : ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? Xorg.0.log.old [02:00] rm -f didn't work [02:00] skibur, run fsck on it [02:00] fsck on? [02:00] my drive or file? [02:00] the drive [02:00] is it your rootfs? [02:00] yup [02:01] on the partition [02:01] not the block device itself [02:01] silvergold, it looks like you are missing the last dependency [02:01] shutdown -F -r now [02:01] hexedit states "not a file" [02:01] lol [02:02] skibur, [02:02] what is -F ? [02:02] that will reboot and force a fsck on boot [02:02] fsck? [02:02] mrselfpwn: yeah, I know, but I asked about this earlier, and alienBOB had mentioned that I shouldn't need to install anything extra on current to get digikam. [02:02] o ok [02:02] nice [02:02] skibur, yea [02:02] rebooting [02:03] digiKam needs libkipi library >= 0.2.0. You need to install libkipi first [02:04] did you install current with KDE as your desktop? [02:04] mrselfpwn: yeah, I see that. It shows libkdcraw and libkexiv2 missing as well. [02:04] mrselfpwn: yes. [02:04] silvergold619 [02:04] may i suggest slapt-get? [02:04] Urchlay: haha [02:04] ack! Them's fightin' words! [02:05] mrselfpwn: ohgoshno, I won't use that. [02:05] er [02:05] it's not the plague [02:05] almost :P [02:05] or even a virus for that matter [02:05] it's actually quite useful [02:05] -F << for all partitions or only root? [02:06] Action: Urchlay don't trust binary packages outside the slackware tree [02:06] Urchlay: how goes? [02:06] right [02:06] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [02:06] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Is getting back to soemthing else" [02:06] silvergold: I think I'm goin' deaf, played the show saturday, then 4+ hours with the garage band today, then open mic just now [02:06] you can mandate slapt-get to only use official repositories [02:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:07] Urchlay: Can you hear me NOW? :D [02:07] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] Action: Urchlay rummages thru his gig bag. "I know my earhorn's in here somwheres..." [02:07] is there to stop creating a log file everytime xorg boots? [02:07] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:08] skibur: you mean you don't want /var/log/Xorg.0.log to get created? [02:08] skibur: that won't fix the problem. [02:08] Action: mrselfpwn has digikam installed and running successfully [02:08] that's just treating a symptom and leaving a potentially serious issue alone [02:09] mrselfpwn: libkdcraw should at least be there: [17:08] silvergold: you should not need to compile libkdcraw on -current ... it is included [02:09] antiwire: you don't use digikam, do you? [02:09] it might because the issue is it can't overwrite that File [02:09] just need a temp fix [02:09] skibur: so boot into rl1 and figure out what's wrong with the fs or drive first [02:09] Urchlay, yes [02:09] silvergold: gtkam [02:10] silvergold use locate to see if it is indeed installed [02:10] bootclean fail [02:10] when shutdown -F -r now [02:10] antiwire: Hmm, and that works good? [02:10] I know that's on Sbo. [02:10] silvergold: it gets the pictures off cameras, that's all i care [02:10] skibur: just reading backlog... your trouble is "can't rm /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"? Try instead of rm'ing it, mv it (in other words rename it). But even if that "fixes" it, it sounds like you have more serious issues. [02:11] mrselfpwn: yes, I have libkdcraw, it's part of kdegraphics. [02:11] as is libkexiv2 [02:11] bbiab [02:11] rename the file has no affect [02:11] all the digital cameras I have ever had allowed the flash media to just be mounted in a normal manner without extra software [02:11] skibur: did you fsck the partition? [02:11] okay, is digikam looking for something you have that maybe you just could create a symlink to? [02:11] and make it work. [02:12] twolf: then your cameras support generic mass storage. not all do. [02:12] antiwire: indeed [02:12] I have been lucky [02:12] yes, but didn't perform at all [02:12] I have had mostly Nikon digital cameras [02:13] my current camera is the Nikon D50 and it has been a great joy to own [02:13] Techtronic (n=root@77.90.71.162) left irc: "Leaving" [02:13] skibur: then you need to use a boot disk or a liveCD to figure out what is wrong. fsck the partition, check SMART, maybe run a badblocks pass [02:13] yeah [02:13] looking for my bootable [02:14] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [02:14] "stale NFS file handle" is a really weird error to get on a non-NFS filesystem... [02:16] ahhahaha. Posted on a public forum: "can someone email me what is included in this update? send the message to xxxxx@hotmail.co.uk DO NOT GIVE OUT MY EMAIL" [02:16] rotflmfao [02:16] I saw someone on craigslist post a picture of their laptop's windows XP key [02:17] i have one if anyone wants it [02:18] heh [02:19] hmmm, bbiaf [02:19] i want your laptop [02:19] i'll give you two if you can answer how to get a live distro to boot from harddrive [02:19] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:19] i have more laptops than 20 average households [02:20] you can via nfs+pxe [02:20] Action: twolf guards his laptops with heavy artillery [02:20] that's how i install slack64-current on mine [02:20] lol [02:21] no i have a partition 2GB i would like to boot a live distro from using lilo [02:21] Action: silvergold drives a tank to twolf's place and takes out his artillery. quick, everyone, grab what you can. :) [02:21] mrselfpwn, boot via pxe and boot some distro configured via nfs [02:22] powtrix, not what i'm attempting here [02:22] i don't need network boot [02:22] i backup/repair my pcs at work with that by clonezilla [02:22] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Action: twolf pulls out the 30/30 Winchester and takes out the intruders one by one [02:23] uman (n=uman@unaffiliated/uman) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:23] Action: mrselfpwn passes out door prizes at twolf's house [02:23] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.125) joined ##slackware. [02:25] twolf: haha [02:26] Action: silvergold sends several dozen predator drones over twolf's place. [02:26] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.107) joined ##slackware. [02:26] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:26] Action: mrselfpwn see predator drones approaching and appeases them with candy apples. [02:26] mrselfpwn: :O, door prizes, slackware dvd's, t-shirts, etc? [02:27] si [02:27] oh my [02:27] Action: silvergold sends some F22 Raptors in twolf's direction. [02:29] Action: twolf realizes the 50 cal isn't enough and retreats underground [02:29] Action: silvergold deploys some bunker busters from the F22's. [02:29] Action: mrselfpwn reminds the commander of the previous night and he calls off the f22s [02:29] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:30] Action: twolf thanks his Star Fleet friends for beaming him out in the nick of time [02:30] Action: silvergold sees that the bunker busters were deployed just before the call off command. [02:31] Action: silvergold sees twolf being beamed up into the sky wearing his Scooby Doo pajamas. [02:31] wtf [02:31] indeed [02:31] you guys are gay or what [02:31] no [02:31] I know I'm not [02:32] mrselfpwn: I think I got it working. [02:32] digikam that is [02:32] sweet [02:32] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-219.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:32] mrselfpwn: just testing it, sec. [02:32] kk [02:33] mrselfpwn: Hmm, aside from the fact that it's not looking like it will let me import images, it works. [02:33] jeev: had a few beers, should probably avoid irc at such times [02:33] heh [02:33] well that's a start ;) [02:33] twolf, drink a little more and send me paypal details [02:33] hehe [02:34] leave jeev alone [02:34] What I did is, I installed alienBOB's premade digikam package for current, ran ldd on it, it didn't show anything that it couldn't find, then I remembered I needed kipi-plugins for the extra stuff, installed that, and now all is well except adding images. [02:34] right [02:34] Action: antiwire beats jeev with a large trout [02:35] silvergold, the only reason i use slapt-get for things like that is because it tells the dependencies you need most of the time. [02:35] antiwire, large trouts have absolutely no effect on me.. like complaining to charter, nothing happens. [02:35] trount aren't bad for eating but they suck to beaten with [02:35] ah so you're one of those passive types that just takes it [02:35] mrselfpwn: sweet, got the adding pictures part too. Thanks. :) [02:35] how about smoked salmon jeev ? [02:35] powtrix__ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-112.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:35] Action: antiwire keeps beating [02:35] yw friend [02:35] you all suck [02:35] salmon [02:36] peeeee you [02:36] smoded salmon ftw [02:36] mmmm [02:36] smoked even [02:36] smoked salmon ftw [02:36] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-30-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:36] Nick change: powtrix__ -> powtrix [02:38] two side notes silvergold. read the "requirements" file and build from slackbuild.org if at all possible [02:38] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [02:39] slackbuilds.com [02:39] :) [02:39] mrselfpwn: yes, always do. :) [02:39] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:39] :):):):):):):):):) [02:39] antiwire, i wonder when charter will go docsis 3 [02:39] when they're timewarner? [02:39] lol [02:40] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-100-220.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dneLQY6ZVk [02:44] http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/index.php?k=profile&u=powtrix-8488-31231-18580 [02:45] wow [02:45] cute puppy [02:45] old pc rulz [02:45] http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o310/willysr/SlackBlog/iloveslack.png [02:45] slow as mule but rulz [02:45] heh [02:45] you've got a lot of porns torage [02:46] 99,9% [02:47] i'm gonna print init[1],s link as a sticker for my netbook [02:48] mrselfpwn: its not mine :) i just shared it :) [02:48] TheTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:48] yes, thanks ;) [02:48] cool pic [02:48] actual source http://slackblogs.blogspot.com [02:49] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:49] btw that is not my blog too :P [02:49] lol [02:50] i'm loading 12.2 slackware on a IBM ThinkPad 390 right now. [02:50] no though i did have to update pidgin before i could reconnect to yahoo. [02:50] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [02:51] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-117-66.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:51] nite all [02:51] nevar! [02:52] Action: edman007 force feeds eviltux a whole bottle of caffeine pills [02:52] stolen from nix_chix0r [02:52] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-219.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:56] rrrrgh? [02:57] yo Urchlay :) [02:57] there is a giant stoned dog in my room [02:57] stoned dog!?? [02:57] (or anyway he's dopey from some kind of antihistamine) [03:00] poor old dog has allergies [03:01] TheTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:09] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:11] your giving your dog medicine? [03:12] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:13] http://failblog.org/2009/06/29/underwear-fail-2/ [03:14] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-129.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-0-185.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] old news [03:18] silvergold, [03:18] :( sorry [03:18] edman007: [03:18] better be [03:18] i just wasted precious seconds of my life seeing a pic i already saw today [03:19] pay me $75 [03:19] no way. I've given you several gold bars, what you did with them is your problem, so imo, I've given you enough. ;) [03:20] i eated them :( [03:21] wow, you must have iron teeth. :P [03:27] nah, gold is soft [03:27] i hammered it into gold leaf (20 bars make a LOT of gold leaf) [03:27] and then i garnished all my food with it, since thats what cool people do [03:27] and i'm trying to be cool [03:27] ah, I see. [03:28] gold leaf, the best breakfast for the bling-bling wabbits [03:28] silvergold, and i not have gold plated teeth :) [03:29] :) [03:29] bbl [03:29] so all my teeth are gold and my real teeth [03:29] audio-encoding: http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/index.php?k=profile&u=powtrix-30659-25244-28786 [03:32] Lorn (i=lorn@unaffiliated/lorn) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:34] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] brklynRednek: you solved your problem with usbboot.img yet? [03:38] alienBOB, not yet... [03:38] powtrix, yea...the i7 is crazy though... [03:38] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [03:38] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [03:40] now to test the compatibility of slack64 and slamd64 xorg! [03:41] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [03:41] and if it works, maybe fglrx will love me again [03:42] alienBOB, the issue, usbboot.img works, but i need the same key as an install medium, and when i follow your guide, the two partitions are visible from a running system, but it doesn't boot, giving an operating system missing error [03:42] my old problem "freezing" was vcore ram, upped to 0.75 from .6 and now it is stable [03:43] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:44] what do you prefer, a videogame top or a i7 box for games? [03:44] top=xbox360/ps3 [03:44] games for linux :) [03:44] ? :) [03:45] nexuiz :) [03:45] openarena [03:46] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [03:46] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@oryaoq.static.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:48] Urchlay, ! [03:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [03:51] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.107) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:51] still have about 600 more gigs to transfer and my media pc is complete [03:52] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:52] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:55] Folnin (n=Folnin@2001:778:12:24:219:d1ff:fe31:ad72) joined ##slackware. [03:56] nix_chix0r, you made that much pr0n? [03:56] must be HD [03:56] edman007, wants my tv [03:57] nix_chix0r, and the pony [03:57] yup [03:57] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:57] so where is it? [03:59] up my rear [03:59] here i come [03:59] ew [03:59] lol [04:00] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:00] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:01] pragma_ (n=pragma@blackshell.com) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Nick change: pragma_ -> Guest34419 [04:04] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [04:05] awesome [04:05] my problem all alone silvergold was i needd to update my bios [04:05] nix_chix0r: Ah, nice. so it works good now? [04:06] then i put the 250g in the first slot, and the 1tb in the 3rd slot and added the 1tb into an fstab entry [04:06] works fine now [04:07] awesome. [04:07] adeodatus (n=rp@92.85.223.180) joined ##slackware. [04:07] also, it turns out i didnt need a hdmi converter for my computer to tv because my video card has both [04:08] nice [04:09] i never paid attention to my video card. nvida drivers have come along way [04:09] greetings :) [04:09] sup [04:10] Action: C_Tux finally got an answer for his (1-month) internship, at last ! \o/ [04:10] hey nix_chix0r, how's it going ? [04:11] y0 C_Tux [04:11] good, watching pen and teller bullshit on handicap parking [04:11] you? [04:12] toast10111 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:13] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:13] yoyo silvergold :) [04:13] nix_chix0r: fine too, thanks :) [04:13] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@oryaoq.static.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:14] for the past four days, I had actually been forced to do ... nothing :D [04:14] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:14] need shirts, I have none here [04:15] Well, time to get going. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} everyone. Take care. [04:15] later C_Tux [04:15] later nix_chix0r [04:15] night silvergold :) [04:15] nini [04:15] C_Tux: btw, it's looking like FF 3.5 is for sure released tomorrow. [04:16] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Here I go"). [04:19] according to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases [04:19] it should be released today [04:19] jetlag :) [04:20] (actually it is already Jun. 30 for silvergold ;) ) [04:21] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [04:26] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-32-177.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] adeodatus (n=rp@92.85.223.180) left irc: "Leaving" [04:27] I already downloaded firefox-3.5 final [04:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-0-185.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-0-185.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:31] he :P [04:31] how is it ? [04:31] 3.5 final? [04:32] ok, I found why I had only 96KB left on my / on yesterday, and the file (3.7GB) was so fragmented it took a full minute to rm :o [04:32] (I assume that's because it was fragmented but I don't know for sure) [04:33] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-144-35.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:37] powtrix, 3.5 final [04:38] FF3.5 is out? [04:38] ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5/ [04:39] Thom1, thanks, FF3 crashed trying to browse that server :( [04:39] :D [04:40] ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5/source/firefox-3.5-source.tar.bz2 [04:40] 44.3mb [04:40] Action: edman007 downloads [04:41] heh, try to compile it [04:41] i will [04:41] [====================================> ] [04:41] with my patch to make ctl-q not quit [04:41] [8===================================> ] [04:41] powtrix: yours is terribly long :o [04:41] 53% [============================================================================> ] 25,018,544 570K/s eta 41s [04:41] mine is bigger [04:42] hmm... [04:42] and seems even thiner -_- [04:42] via_gra.. [04:42] C_Tux, nah, thats just your eyes, its bigger in person [04:42] powtrix, via sucks [04:43] http://download.tuxfamily.net/openarena/rel/081/oa081.zip ...eta 1m [04:45] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:45] greetings [04:47] openarea does not compile? [04:48] meh. get a prebuilt version. [04:53] well FF3.5 is compiling... [04:53] Action: edman007 waits [04:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:54] Kyonshi^7 was gunned down by powtrix^7 [04:54] -_- [04:54] Action: edman007 kills powtrix [04:55] edman007: I only believe what I see, pics -_- [04:55] hi The-Croupier [04:55] :( [04:55] hiya C_Tux [04:55] The-Croupier, i'm awake [04:55] hiya edman007 [04:55] edman007: you should do something else while ff compiles ;) [04:55] and i'm not sleeping until FF3.5 is running [04:55] poor edman007 [04:56] Action: C_Tux sends edman007 lots of coffee [04:56] edman007: hahah...did you make a slackbuild? [04:56] only takes 15 minutes...and thats with -O3 ;) [04:56] or did you use the same for other versions [04:56] modified what i have [04:56] we will see if it works [04:56] 04:56:31 up 3 days, 12:07, 16 users, load average: 8.77, 4.93, 2.80 [04:56] its getting there :) [04:56] "ff" and "fast to compile" can't appear in the same sentence [04:56] edman007: good lack [04:56] well, except with a negation in between [04:56] just starting to warm up the CPUs [04:56] lol [04:56] edman007: he :P [04:57] edman007: get some coffee too... a nice pillow...and wait [04:57] lol [04:57] my puter is fast [04:57] pepsi here [04:57] and i'm doing the compile in ram, so no I/O wait [04:57] im compiling conky...and ff is the next in line [04:58] edman007: do you mind pasting the slackbuild, it might save me some editing... [04:58] ill go fetch ff [04:58] its for slamd64 [04:58] not slackware [04:58] edman007: how big are the sources once extracted ? [04:59] C_Tux, well i'm at 620MB, but thats half built [04:59] so much less than that [04:59] edman007 ohhh... well.. ill edit the one i got for slackware then [04:59] yea [04:59] edman007: oh, that's ok [05:00] edman007: btw, how much ram do you have ? [05:00] i just had to remove the --enable-static like the configure script said [05:00] 8GB [05:00] crap =/ [05:00] lol [05:00] I was hoping linking would fail because you wouldn't have enough ram for parallel linkings =/ [05:01] nope, i've done this many times [05:01] i can fit a debug built of FF in ram [05:01] *build [05:01] (imagine three linkings at the same time, each taking nearly 400MB of memory and your tmpfs being 1.5GB, everything on a 2GB ram machine without swap) [05:01] i did the entire thing with no stripping and -g [05:02] well, webkit-gtk nearly fits in *my* memory when building a debug version ;) [05:02] edman007: 8gb?! ram?! [05:02] yea... [05:02] MelisU (n=chatzill@dslb-092-073-201-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:02] you have no hdd? [05:02] :p [05:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [05:03] no, i got 1.5TB of space...on a raid5 [05:03] edman007: damn man...thats quite alot [05:03] ehh... [05:03] heh [05:03] i have 3gbram,160gb hdd, in a small laptop [05:03] that's freaking much [05:03] he, porn doesn't compress well, you need lots of space [05:03] C_Tux: tell me about it [05:03] i have run out of ram many times... [05:03] Hello all, just one tiny quick question: For how long does Slackware provide security updates for a release? It is hard to find that info on the web :( [05:03] The-Croupier: 2GB, 120GB, and an external 1TB drive :D [05:04] edman007: how on earth do you run out of 8gb of ram... [05:04] C_Tux: external doesnt count [05:04] i have a 350gb external for my backups as well [05:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:05] "Thank you for helping test this new version of the Firefox 3.5 Release Candidate! This release is being made available for testing purposes only. You should read the release notes before getting started." [05:05] i thought you said it was final... [05:05] what? [05:05] The-Croupier, pop up a few VMs...and then compile... [05:06] edman007, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear 8-) [05:06] edman007: did you hear the above message or see it ? :p ;) [05:06] TwinReverb, well that OOM killer got me a much of times before i decided i had a memory leak in an app i was writing [05:07] edman007: the link didn't have -rc in it or anything else, I'd rather think it's mozilla's fault [05:07] yea [05:07] C_Tux, yea, it decompresses into a mozilla-1.9.1 folder too...which is weird [05:07] edman007: are you on slamd64 ? [05:07] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [05:07] edman007: mozilla(c) [05:08] yea, slamd64 [05:08] and it runs just fine :) [05:08] OOM killer? [05:08] Hello all, just one tiny quick question: For how long does Slackware provide security updates for a release? [05:08] TwinReverb, comes around and kills apps when you run out of ram...and it usually picks non-problem ones to make your life hard [05:08] MelisU: indeterminate [05:08] MelisU: there is a new xpdf package for slackware 9.1 [05:08] but releases are s-till being provided for slackware 9 [05:09] oooohhhhh [05:09] OK .. but when support ceases it is announced? [05:09] MelisU: actually, according to http://www.slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009&m=slackware-security.551809 , 8.1 is still being maintained [05:09] edman007, i've never seen the OOM thing [05:09] thevideobay.org works :) and its nice [05:10] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [05:10] well i don't have swap...because i shouldn't need it with 8GB of ram, and raid5 is too slow for swapping [05:10] C_Tux, thank you very much. [05:10] TwinReverb: 1- boot into console, 2- make a tmpfs of 2.9GB, fill it with /dev/zero data, 3- start X [05:11] the only downside is i don't get that "system going to a halt" that swap gives you, so instead, my system just locks up as OOM killer suspends userspace and picks something [05:11] you can be sure you'll get an OOM killer :) [05:11] C_Tux, no thanks [05:11] i usually limit tmpfs to 1% [05:11] edman007: here it *always* picks firefox, linux is intelligent enough to find what's uselessly taking all the resources :) [05:11] TwinReverb: 1% ? :o [05:11] 30MB... [05:12] tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,size=1%) [05:12] total used free shared buffers cached [05:12] Mem: 2065404 777688 1287716 0 1112 333428 [05:12] if you have 2GB RAM, 1% is 40MB [05:12] i never saw mine get used at any point in time so i just decided to limit it to 1% [05:12] C_Tux, well for me it picks FF or a VM thats idle in the background, instead of the process that caused it [05:12] hmmm... [05:12] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [05:13] edman007: yeah, same here ;) [05:13] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [05:13] but iirc the more cpu your program use, the less likely it is to get an OOM killer [05:13] WOW, Slackware 8.1 is from 2002. Would it be really secure to still use that with updates? [05:13] MelisU: no. [05:13] TwinReverb: 1% of 2GB is 20MB, not 40MB [05:13] MelisU: 9.1 [05:14] MelisU, check its changelog and if it hasn't had updates in more than six months, i'd say "no" [05:14] C_Tux, ah, math fail, i did 1024*2*.02 [05:14] Is there a quick way to get a e with an acute accent in kde4/tb? [05:14] TwinReverb: can I noobfarm you ? :D [05:14] i just haven't seen anything use it or any documentation as to what uses how much info [05:14] C_Tux, i'm a libertarian: do whatever you want 8-) [05:15] MelisU: the question is : is your hardware supported in slackware 8 ? [05:15] i would say if you want to be secure, use the most recent version of slackware, period [05:15] older does not always mean more efficient with hardware and resources [05:15] it depends also on the machine, your typical use, the programs you choose, etc [05:15] much less the configuration of those programs [05:16] alright, well FF 3.5 works, so i'm off to bed [05:16] edman007: is that really 3.5 ? [05:16] I thought that was a prerelease :D [05:16] C_Tux, what I want to know is whether I could use Slackware as a server OS for a long time and still be secure with updates. Why is there no clear policy for sec updates? [05:17] there is a clear policy: patrick puts out patches until supporting the version is either too much time or too much resources spent (and/or if there will even be a fix for whatever is wrong) [05:17] MelisU: dunno but as you see, updates are provided for a long time [05:17] MelisU: because old slackware versions are supported for about 5 times longer than any other OS [05:17] MelisU: so setting dates is irrelevant [05:17] i mean, i don't expect him to compile some obscure program for an obscure version of slackware and have to recompile half the stuff on that version of slackware to release it only for maybe a dozen people in the world who may need it [05:17] MelisU: and if there aren't anymore updates (which means in a loooooooong time), grab the .SlackBuild files and compile by yourself, it's terribly easy [05:18] i mean, say gaim has a security update in 8.1, and to apply the patch he would have to recompile to pidgin, and recompile Xorg, and recompile glibc. i doubt he ought to have to do that. [05:18] cd $package && source *.info && wget $DOWNLOAD && ./ && installpkg /tmp/$package*.tgz [05:18] (or txz) [05:18] now an OS is not more secure because it is newer, true, but it is also not secure because it is older [05:20] even then, if this is just as a server OS, the version of slackware doesn't mean much in the way of running leaner because you're already running things in a lean manner. you don't need Xorg for a server (except maybe an Xorg server, which i doubt you will use on an old machine), and you can probably do without hal, dbus, etc, you get the point [05:20] what servers are you planning on putting on this machine? [05:21] C_Tux: $package*./t*z [05:21] C_Tux: $package*.t*z [05:21] Zordrak: yep ;) [05:21] msiexec /i $package.txz [05:22] powtrix: only if package=whole_slackware ! [05:22] TwinReverb, just Apache and PHP stuff. [05:24] At the moment I cannot decide between CentOS and Slackware. I could strip Centos and have something as lean as Slackware or I could just Slackware right away. [05:24] I'd go for slackware :) [05:24] Action: C_Tux has never used centos :D [05:25] MelisU, go for slack. no regrets. [05:25] And from what you are saying it might be good to use Slackware because it seems I will get updates for a longer time ( Centos 5 has only 4 years left ) [05:26] so a 12.2 might be the way to go ( also I get newer software ) [05:26] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:26] MelisU: Get slack... [05:26] rapid_ (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:27] But i really don't like "entiprise" stuff... so [05:27] hi everybody ! [05:28] only thing I don't like is that Pat announces no clear time frames. Will he post when support ceases? Or do I have to check the changelogs and determine that myself? [05:28] does someone know why pm-suspend does not work anymore ? [05:28] thanks in advance [05:29] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-144-35.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [05:29] paissad, using -current or what? [05:29] MelisU: tbh I don't know. But it really depends by what you mean support [05:29] slava_dp, no 12.2 [05:30] pm-suspend worked for me today morning ;) [05:30] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [05:30] MelisU: I'd imagine you would want to upgrade in 3ish years anyway [05:30] Aldaron, i mean that, pm-suspend did work before for me, i not anylonger now :( [05:30] paissad, pm-hibernate works for me, pm-suspend only occasionally. part of the time it can't resume. this has not changed since the release. [05:31] MelisU: dunno, if somebody of the team was there... :) /* implicit ping */ [05:31] paissad, /var/log/pm-suspend* [05:31] MelisU: wait a bit, I'm sure somebody of the team will magically appear and answer your question [05:31] :) [05:31] If you're running something on top of apache+php, in 3 years there's a new version with significant new features, and which requires a newer php+apache+mysql+stuff :) [05:31] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [05:31] delt0r, yeah .. I haven't really thought that through. Pat provides security updates as long as the upstreams provide them, right? [05:31] paissad: I understood that. Probably something changed at the time it stopped working? ;) [05:32] MelisU, on slackware, you will need to check ChangeLog.txt. it's the only authoritative source of information. [05:32] MelisU: You always have the slackBuild files too. So you can use sorce from upstream most of the time... [05:33] slava_dp, and the changelog will tell when the release becomes unsupported? [05:33] MelisU, i'm sure about that. but, as stated above, as long as upstream patches are not any more, you will not get updates to slack. [05:34] MelisU: a few weeks ago, BitchX was EOL'ed in slackware because upstream wasn't correcting flaws [05:35] eol? [05:35] end of life [05:36] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [05:37] I think I haven't totally wrapped my head around the way Slackware does things. But thanks for all the valuable infos! I will browse the changelogs to get more infos. [05:38] MelisU, when you have more questions, don't hesitate to ask. [05:40] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:41] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:42] slava_dp: what do you mean by "you will not get updates to slack"? [05:42] The-Croupier: meaning if theres no new source.. theres nothing to release [05:43] ok, i had an issue trying to get unetbootin to work [05:43] Zordrak: ohh i see [05:43] missread that completely [05:43] :( [05:43] edman007: ff error configure: error: You must specify a default toolkit (perhaps cairo-gtk2). [05:48] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:48] Nick change: TClayton_ -> TClayton [05:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.21.95) joined ##slackware. [05:53] http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8745/060127camisinha3ht.jpg [05:53] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:54] wng-- (n=jackson@216.211.244.212) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:55] powtrix, wtf [05:55] preservative [05:55] slava_dp: anti-aids campaign [05:56] i see. well, that explains it [05:56] it's possible the scorpion kills the male after sex [05:57] shocking on purpose ;) [05:57] notice the male has dirty feet. must have run a mile before the other one caught hi [05:59] wng-- (n=jackson@216.211.244.212) joined ##slackware. [06:00] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-226-203.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] I was sure it was a french ad campaign [06:01] and another one from the same campaign : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zc1xN4LoSgI/RwsCoKHtR2I/AAAAAAAAAJY/28U_i_tpbAE/s1600-h/aids-spider.bmp [06:02] sh0ne (n=unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. 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[06:46] MelisU (n=chatzill@dslb-092-073-201-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:47] i got an image in my head that if its not on sbo most of the time is not nice...:( [06:47] MelisU (n=chatzill@dslb-092-073-201-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] keep forgetting that there are sources out there [06:47] edman007: I compiled webkit-gtk, and now the js JIT is enabled for x86_64, and it kicks ass ;) [06:48] edman007: we could exchange bins and benchmark :) [06:52] hallo The-Croupier [06:52] hey v4nelle [06:52] hows it going [06:53] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.35) joined ##slackware. [06:55] sh0ne (n=unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [06:55] MelisU (n=chatzill@dslb-092-073-201-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:55] MelisU (n=chatzill@dslb-092-073-201-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:12] C_Tux: its been running for like 40mins now [07:12] but what is the benefit of runnin webkit-gtk [07:12] will i gain something from stopping it and rerunning it [07:13] The-Croupier: webkit-gtk compiled in 35 minutes here :) [07:13] webkit-gtk is a wonderful rendering engine, much faster than ff [07:13] plus it's well-behaved [07:14] C_Tux: i dont see it for slackware anywhere...on their site already [07:14] slackbuilds.org has a slackbuild [07:14] (try with midori) [07:15] midori?! damn i missed lots of stuff by not joining for 2days [07:15] midori has been available for 18 months ;) [07:16] have never heard of it [07:17] never been the case... [07:22] so change the buildscript instead of gtk..webkit? you think it might work? [07:23] wait, which build script ? [07:23] ff's ? [07:23] webkit-gtk is a completely different engine, you can't use that with ff [07:25] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-138-42.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:25] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-129-186.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [07:25] webkit is not compiling for me :( [07:25] The-Croupier: why ? [07:26] some basesemthing...ill tell you in two seconds again [07:28] usr/bin/bison -d -p cssyy WebCore/css/CSSGrammar.y -o ./DerivedSources/CSSGrammar.cpp [07:28] WebCore/css/CSSGrammar.y:352.11-20: symbol maybe_sgml redefined [07:28] make: *** [DerivedSources/CSSGrammar.cpp] Error 1 [07:28] that is the error i put on google as well... no luck so fuar [07:31] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [07:31] MelisU (n=chatzill@dslb-092-073-201-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:31] MelisU (n=chatzill@dslb-092-073-201-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:42] yep, you know right click on title bar...layer desktop,on top of everthing..etc [07:42] The-Croupier: I guess it was using a bad nightly for webkit [07:43] I'll make a nice tarball for you ;) [07:43] The-Croupier: wmctrl or something like that ;) [07:43] C_Tux i tried compiling that [07:43] but seems to have something wrong [07:43] ill try to check for dependencies...maybe im missing something...even if i did a full install this time to try [07:44] i removed the /games/ part...i dont like any of them [07:44] C_Tux: if you can make something i could try that is well welcome ;) [07:45] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [07:46] The-Croupier: no, that's a problem in wbekit's sources [07:46] computer, laggy [07:46] hi i have some "strange" problems with php on slack12.2 [07:46] nv driver, crappy [07:46] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.5) joined ##slackware. [07:46] sorry 12.1 [07:46] The-Croupier: doing a tarball right now, if that mofo agrees to :) [07:46] hoho (n=email@190.166.112.240) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [07:47] php does not interpret this: as php script at all [07:47] i need to make it: [07:47] kr_eten: that's a php setting, iirc [07:48] C_Tux: thank you [07:48] well i altered nothing myself and it previously worked fine [07:48] problem is i have to go right now..family problem... please send me the link or something..ill definately download it when i come back... [07:48] Action: The-Croupier waves at everybody [07:48] The-Croupier: coming, there was a problem in one of webkit's makefile and I just corrected it :) [07:49] The-Croupier: no prob, laterz :) [07:49] Aldaron, do i need to man php for this? [07:49] The-Croupier: or if you have time for 5MB, I can dcc [07:49] it [07:50] kr_eten: man might help. But, I've got a line for that in /etc/apache/php.ini, saying "short_open_tag = On" - I think it's that [07:50] i have found it [07:50] it is Off i searched for ? :) [07:51] well, if short tags don't work for you, then the setting should be off for you I think ;) [07:51] the comment says you're better off using yes i read it [07:52] thanks [07:52] you're welcome :) [07:58] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:02] RJz0r (n=taterz@c-76-18-30-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Changing server" [08:10] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.93.218) left irc: "Leaving" [08:19] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-156-251.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:21] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-28-159.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [08:31] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:43] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. 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[09:23] dirty hippies at http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/glastonbury_2009.html [09:24] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left ##slackware. [09:26] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:27] gnubien: nice pics [09:27] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:28] ikaiyu: yea, looks like they had fun [09:28] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:29] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [09:29] interesting how much people are caught with drugs /illegal stuff ;/ [09:30] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] ikaiyu: yes, that is a common occurance at events like that [09:31] quite nice pics of Glastonbury :) [09:32] BP{k}: yea, looks like woodstock 2009 :) [09:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:34] gnubien: yeah if woodstock sold out [09:35] Nick change: christian -> Guest6000 [09:35] Zordrak: right, more commercialization in every event now [09:35] download is going the same way [09:36] costs more than a friggin formula1 ticket [09:36] and full of moronic chavs [09:36] I wish Ozzfest hadnt stopped doing UK dates [09:37] caio (n=caio@190.244.39.244) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Zordrak: burning man event in nevada may be less commercial [09:37] O_o [09:37] nevada(?) [09:37] nevada usa [09:38] well yeah... but is a liitle further away than download :) [09:38] Guest6000 (n=christia@kobz-590d12fd.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:39] stybla (i=stybla@78.110.208.218) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:40] which country hosts the download event? [09:40] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving." [09:40] uk [09:40] I wish I went to download festival [09:41] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] party hearty ;) [09:44] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] anyone here use wordpress? [09:50] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:51] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:53] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Hello! 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[10:05] agentc0re1: that's a pretty vague question [10:09] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-170-14.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-151-186.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:11] thumbs: I disagree, can't be any more precise than that [10:11] it's a yes/no type of question [10:12] Kaapa: well, it's not a 'smart' question, then :) [10:13] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left ##slackware. [10:15] thumbs: I gotta agree there :D [10:15] Kaapa: thanks [10:19] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-151-186.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:21] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-197-113.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:21] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-201-237.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.93.209) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Well i have a wordpress issue that i really don't care to bring up in the channel unless someone else is using it. Which is why i asked that "vague" question thumbs. [10:30] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.164.33) joined ##slackware. [10:32] caio (n=caio@190.244.39.244) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:32] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.39.244) joined ##slackware. [10:33] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:38] I use wordpress agentc0re [10:38] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.78.171) joined ##slackware. [10:40] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.78.171) left irc: "leaving" [10:40] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.78.171) joined ##slackware. [10:40] me too. 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[11:15] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.78.171) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:15] monstro (i=1000@201-92-42-185.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [11:15] agentc0re1: I support httpd every day, so if you had a specific question, I could have tried to help you [11:15] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.5) left irc: [11:15] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.167.146) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:27] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] alienBOB: Do you use suPHP in conjunction with your wordpress installation? [11:33] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@85.84.197.207) left irc: [11:34] thumbs: Well, I had no idea. You might know why this is happening then. Would you rather i join you in #httpd/apache (not sure what it's called TBO) and ask you there? [11:34] In there rather. [11:34] agentc0re|work: #httpd, yes [11:39] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176203447.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Nick change: toast10111 -> toast10101 [11:45] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [11:47] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:49] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Connection timed out [11:52] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [11:52] l4m3rx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [11:53] jonny (n=jonny@97-115-144-21.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] l4m3rx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [12:00] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. 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[12:23] acidchild, maybe in slackware/ ? [12:24] slackware/ap/ [12:25] mkay [12:25] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [12:26] HI [12:27] There was an error when I tried to run slackpkg upgrade-all today. [12:27] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-112.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:27] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [12:27] No such file `ghostscript-8.63-i486-3_slack12.2.tgz.asc' [12:28] 9b81f277e2197f12c7061ab82dafdcf1 *ghostscript-8.64-x86_64-2.txz.asc [12:29] I have installed Slackware 12.2 with all packages from original 3 cdroms and I have always updatet via slackpkg and never uninstalled any package. [12:29] Hm. What is this? [12:29] the md5sum from it at my hdd [12:29] rhys (n=fircuser@m3a5336d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] update your local files and get it [12:30] what happens if the repo is updated while slacpkg is running ? [12:30] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:30] try ;) [12:31] What is wrong with my local files? Should I be able to find ghostscript-8.64-x86_64-2.txz.asc on my hd now? I thought, it could not be downloaded. [12:31] i use upgradepkg [12:31] 'no such file ...' -- file not found [12:31] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-128-122.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Not found on my hd or not found online? [12:32] look at slackware64/ap/ghostscript-8....txz.asc [12:32] local [12:32] or online [12:33] try other mirror [12:33] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [12:35] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Where does slackpkg usually save downloaded packages before installing? [12:38] I've been trying out kde4, slackware-64, a few days now, and I miss kde3! [12:38] hi all [12:38] flat (n=bkaplan@unaffiliated/flat) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] Tirili, grep TEMP /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf [12:39] read the slakcpkg.conf file [12:40] thank you [12:40] np [12:41] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-8-201.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Ok, that folder is empty. When I try to download the package from my specified server from here http://packages.slackware.it/package.php?q=12.2/ghostscript-8.63-i486-3_slack12.2 , the server also doesn't answer. [12:42] I downloaded it from an usa server now. ;) [12:42] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:46] define other mirror [12:46] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [12:46] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Nick change: mako-don1 -> mako-sama [12:48] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [12:51] yes [12:52] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [12:53] edman007: up ? I'd like to test your ff, and I'd like you to test my webkit ;) [12:53] (that sounds gay...) [12:54] "let me try your toy and come here try mine" [12:55] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:56] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4A7EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Greetings everyone. :) [12:57] yo silvergold [12:57] y0 C_Tux, how goes? [12:58] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [12:58] silvergold: fine, thanks, and you ? [12:59] doing great, thanks. Just gonna check out FF 3.5 [13:00] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [13:00] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:00] bah ='( [13:01] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-27-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:01] you've tried it? [13:01] this is interesting: http://gizmodo.com/5304463/what-is-this [13:02] silvergold: come on, try webkit ;) [13:02] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.167.146) left irc: "leaving" [13:02] bbl.....taking my six year old to the park. see you soon:) [13:03] later hitest [13:03] don't forget to buy your six year old an ice cream -_- [13:03] later hitest, have fun. [13:03] later C_Tux:) yeah.......I'll be getting her some type of snack:) [13:04] bye silvergold:) [13:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:04] C_Tux: what all do I need for web kit, webkit from SBo, and then what browser will take advantage of it. [13:05] midori or is there a better one. [13:05] midori will do since mine isn't ready yet :D [13:05] hello [13:05] ok whats a GUI mail client ? like outlook express ? for linux ... ? [13:05] thunderbird [13:05] or epiphany, or one day konqueror, or crap, Alzheimer [13:05] there's kontact, claws-mail, thunderbird, etc. [13:05] Which comes with Slackware. [13:06] the japanese one [13:06] Guest90165 (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:06] thunderbird - Transition package for icedove rename ? [13:06] kazehakaze ! [13:06] C_Tux: Ugh, epiphany. [13:06] grr [13:06] silvergold: yeah :D [13:06] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-128-122.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:06] yo Agiofws [13:06] but epiphany seems ok, it's almost gnome-independent [13:06] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176203447.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [13:07] Agiofws: no, there's no icedove, iceweasel, etc. in slackware, that's Debian. (I don't know if any other distro does that or not) [13:07] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] C_Tux: that'd be nice if it was completely gnome-independent, it is a nice browser, just needs some gnome. :P [13:07] oh yeah, kazenhakaze does webkit too. [13:07] rworkman: in texlive, you might want to configure --without-etex, it's an plugin to get syntax highlighting and completion in ... eclipse [13:08] (don't know how big it is) [13:08] silvergold, Agiofws : some other distros agree with iceweasel, too. the problem is with the licensing of the logomark [13:08] silvergold: yep [13:08] Action: C_Tux will do his browser soon (tm) [13:08] steiger: yeah, I know the reasoning, I just didn't know what other distros did that. [13:08] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.214) joined ##slackware. [13:08] C_Tux: c'mon, get with it man. [13:08] lynx is the browser of the gods [13:08] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:08] never ! :p [13:09] C_Tux: any time frame when your browser will be done? [13:09] i am not able to figure out whats wrong with this command........ [13:09] at 00:36AM -f bin/alarm.sh [13:09] lynx http://facebook.com/ [13:09] "Sorry, we're not cool enough to support your browser." [13:09] silvergold: when it's ready ? :D [13:09] where alarm.sh has a line reading "mpg123 mysong.mp3" [13:10] C_Tux: nice, you following slackware's release schedule. :D [13:10] but I am confident I can release something this month^W^W next month ;) [13:10] silvergold: exactly ;) [13:10] :O [13:10] pi31415: yeah, exactly ;) [13:10] Nick change: dartmouth -> not_dartmouth [13:10] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [13:11] If you're not_dartmouth, then who are you? [13:11] shhhhh. [13:11] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:12] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.236.177.119) joined ##slackware. [13:12] C_Tux: Installing webkit, midori, and kazehakase now. :) [13:12] happy? [13:13] not_dartmouth: the gig's up, you've been discovered. [13:13] not_dartmouth: you're disquise has been compromised, give up. :) [13:13] silvergold: yeah ! \o/ [13:14] or just give up anyway? [13:14] y0 chopp [13:14] silvergold: if you have some time, you can maybe benchmark it against ff 3.5 on sunspider [13:14] cherife (n=cherife@218.109.144.147) joined ##slackware. [13:14] hey silvergold :) [13:14] C_Tux: sure will, have that sunspider link handy? [13:14] (btw, it'd be interesting to see ff 3.5 vs ff 3 vs webkit-gtk git) [13:14] silvergold: yeah, just a sec [13:14] chopp: how goes? [13:15] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-18.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:15] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [13:15] silvergold: hmm, I've been told the link in the slackbuild points to a source tarball that won't compile [13:15] if you want, I can dcc you a nice tarball [13:15] silvergold: not bad at all, how about yourself? [13:15] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] chopp: doing great, thanks. [13:15] good good [13:15] chopp: link for which thing? [13:15] err. C_Tux [13:16] :P [13:16] dang tab completion [13:16] njathan, if you specify "00:36", it's implied 24-hour time [13:16] C c :P [13:16] ok, need to tell alkos333 that the slackbuild should use the 'stable' releases as seen on http://www.webkitgtk.org/?page=download [13:17] silvergold: http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html [13:17] it's quite fast on webkit but will probably be slow on ff 3 ;) [13:17] ccfreak2k, do you mean to say i should not be putting "AM" in that command then? [13:17] Nick change: not_dartmouth -> dartmouth [13:17] also, when sunspider is done with the benchmarking, you'll be given a link and a summary, copy the link and keep it ;) [13:17] C_Tux: I'll try that against opera 10 too. :D [13:18] sGun (n=quassel@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:18] njathan, what time would you consider to be "00:36 PM"? [13:18] lain__ (n=no_se_mi@host116.200-117-32.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:18] silvergold: that'd be great ! [13:19] C_Tux: opera 10 isn't final yet, but it's really, really close. [13:19] hi, i got a strange situation ... i'm root and cant configure inet1.conf from /etc/, the owner (root) has rw permissions [13:19] and doesnt have another marks [13:19] hmmm, I might well try webkit vs opera vs ff3 vs ff3.5 vs ie8 vs ff 3 win vs ff 3.5 win vs webkit win vs opera win [13:19] anyone upgraded virtualbox 3.0.0? it's awesome ;) [13:19] on 32 bit and on 64bit [13:19] cherife: eh? [13:19] when the hell did that come out? [13:19] cherife: I did, and... got a bug [13:19] lsof | grep inet1.conf doesnt return nothing (maybe some process didnt let me write on it ?, but seems isnt the case) [13:20] wth! [13:20] just today! [13:20] damn it [13:20] any ideas ? [13:20] Action: Dominian reads [13:20] C_Tux: yeah, me 2. [13:20] cherife: in the console, the cursor will blink really quickly and the virtual machine (slackware) will use a whole processor [13:20] lain__: .... /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ..... [13:20] that was beta2 though [13:20] lain__: what do you mean by "can't configure" ? Can you edit the /etc/inetd.conf file ? [13:20] yep, that antiwire [13:20] i cant write on it [13:21] only read it [13:21] C_Tux: nope here [13:21] it doesnt make sense [13:21] since the file has rw for owner [13:21] lain__: what do you get when you type "id -a" ? [13:21] it gives me permission denied [13:21] root [13:21] silvergold: when using sunspider, DO NOT FORGET TO set 'performance' as the scaling_governor for your processors ! [13:22] cherife: I'll upgrade and try again [13:22] C_Tux: good luck then :) [13:22] the sad part is vbox3 isn't for me as my processor can't do VT-x despite being 64bit =/ [13:22] lain__: that's obviously not what you get ... just "root" ... paste the line that you actually get [13:22] cherife: he, thanks :) [13:22] C_Tux: Hmmm, I've never done that, where can I read how to do that? [13:22] rk4n3: y0, how's it going? [13:22] adeodatus (n=rp@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [13:23] C_Tux: have you enabled VT-x in the BIOS settings? [13:23] silvergold: echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor [13:23] silvergold: hi :) not too bad ... working, eating, sleeping, etc... [13:23] C_Tux: yeah I'm in the same boat with mine. :( [13:23] ermmmm, sudo echo performance... ;) [13:23] woah, when did the extra arch's for slack-current show up? [13:23] chopp: *hug* ='( [13:23] C_Tux: ok, thanks. :) [13:23] C_Tux: VT works for me, i can see two cpus now :P [13:24] silvergold: that's assuming you have one processor or a bicore [13:24] (change cpu0) [13:24] C_Tux: hey! We'll have no part of that. :P [13:24] cherife: I hate you ! [13:24] chopp: crap ! =/ [13:24] C_Tux: lol [13:24] ='( ='( [13:24] x-ip (n=x-ip@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [13:24] rk4n3, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),11(floppy) [13:24] i'm root :S [13:24] straterra C_Tux needs a hug [13:24] shower time, bbs :) [13:24] straterra ! <3 [13:24] =) [13:25] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4A7EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:25] i edited rc.inet1 so it get the data from another file rc.inet3.conf [13:25] x-ip: OK, then what do you get when you type "ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf" ? [13:25] C_Tux: i packaged with VirtualBox-3.0.0_49315_rhel5-1.x86_64.rpm, how about you? [13:25] but i cant explain or understand why i cant modify rc.inet1.conf [13:25] C_Tux: yeah, I just have one processor. :) [13:25] silvergold: no need to think then ;) [13:25] root@www:/etc/rc.d# ls -l ./rc.inet1.conf [13:25] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3579 2009-03-24 00:46 ./rc.inet1.conf [13:26] and I should add chrome to my list of sunspider benchmarks ;) [13:26] yeah, 4 additional browsers to test ! =) [13:26] why vbox rpm? [13:26] kleanchap (n=chatzill@port-83-236-141-218.static.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [13:26] chrome win32, chrome win64, chrome linux32, chrome linux64 :) [13:26] powtrix: any better way? [13:26] ccfreak2k, i just fired "at 10:56PM -f bin/alarm.sh "............... doesn't seem to be working :-( [13:26] x-ip: and when you type "vim /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf", what happens ? [13:26] OSE [13:27] kleanchap (n=chatzill@port-83-236-141-218.static.qsc.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:27] and I should also benchmark b(°)(°)buntu against slackware :D [13:27] http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.0.0_BETA2/VirtualBox-3.0.0_BETA2_OSE.tar.bz2 [13:27] rk4n3, permission denied [13:27] when i write i get that [13:27] i can only read it [13:27] do you use slackware-32bits or 64bit? [13:27] 12.0.0 [13:28] x-ip: I asked what happens when you type "vim /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf" ... [13:28] i686 [13:28] powtrix: i used to compile ose, but ose lacks some features. [13:28] C_Tux: eh, I'm getting build errors with webkit. :P [13:28] cherife, 32 or 64? [13:28] powtrix: 64 [13:28] it open the file rk4n3 [13:28] run http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.0.0_BETA2/VirtualBox-3.0.0_BETA2-49051-Linux_amd64.run [13:28] x-ip: does it give any messages at the bottom of the editor when you open it ? [13:29] [readonly] [13:29] silvergold: ok, can I dcc you a 5MB file ? :) [13:29] C_Tux: go for it. :) [13:30] powtrix: i intended to have a try with that, can i unpack the file then package it? [13:30] x-ip: OK, so if you type "mount" at the command line, what does it say for the root file system ? [13:30] rworkman: texlive package fails on 64bit afaict (slamd64 here) [13:30] Action: chopp is now known as Chuck_Barris...welcome to the Gong Show [13:30] chopp: haha [13:30] x-ip, edit and wq! [13:30] wow all the 1337sp34k in the nicks is giving me an aneurism [13:30] (seems to be lib vs lib64) [13:30] C_Tux: fails how? pdflatex doesn't work? [13:30] /dev/md/1 on / type reiserfs (rw,attrs) [13:30] powtrix: the file is already rw for root, so w! presumably won't work anyway [13:30] rworkman: when linking xetex [13:30] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:31] x-ip: are you even running Slackware? [13:31] kleanchap (n=chatzill@port-83-236-141-218.static.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Hrm, it built here (a long time ago though, actually before slackware64 went public) and worked fine. [13:31] '/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format' but it should be looking in /usr/lib as I said [13:31] x-ip: aha - I'm not sure what attrs means with respect to reiserfs ... [13:31] C_Tux: however, a more recent build did *not* work. The package built, but it didn't actually work. [13:31] might be slamd64 then, I'll check again in about one hour [13:31] root@www:/etc/rc.d# cat /etc/slackware-version [13:31] Slackware 12.0.0 [13:31] It's been low on my priority list recently due to other concerns [13:32] rworkman: that one is a pure linking error [13:32] C_Tux: that's probably a slamd64 issue -- we don't have libs in /usr/lib, so there's no danger of conflicts. [13:32] rworkman: yeah, sure ;) [13:32] chopp, I like this next act, but I also like ... migraine headaches! [13:32] nv4phil` (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:32] You might have to manually set PKG_CONFIG_PATH or use -L/usr/lib64 LDFLAGS [13:32] x-ip: if you try powtrix's suggestion of editing the file in vim and using "w!" to force a write, that may work, or if it doesn't then I'd say your file system is read-only somehow [13:33] rworkman: will try tonight and report :) [13:33] C_Tux: I did note the xetex omission for the next build though [13:33] nv4phil` (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [13:33] x-ip: not sure why you wanted reiserfs as your root file system type, and as I said, I'm not sure what "attrs" means with respect to reiservs [13:33] er, reiserfs [13:33] C_Tux: the problem I had recently was pdflatex didn't work (and thus others probably didn't either) due to not being able to generate/find fonts. I know just enough about latex to *use* it, but troubleshooting issues is a bit over my head most of the time [13:34] I haven't tried it on 32bit -current in a *long* time though, so I have no idea if everything still works there [13:35] rworkman: I mentionned etex earlier, not xetex [13:35] hey, one of you guys give me a job. [13:35] ...lol [13:35] Action: C_Tux has to actually check what xetex does and how it compares to latex [13:35] Action: silvergold sends dartmouth out to the fields. [13:35] C_Tux: yeah, I meant etex. Type on my part [13:35] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Connection timed out [13:35] dartmouth: build packages, lol [13:35] rworkman: well, I'll see :) [13:35] rworkman: just wanted to make sure ;) [13:36] cherife: i would, but being paid in 'kudos' doesn't help my landlord out any [13:36] xetex seems to be a replacement for latex but I don't know much, it could be nice, it could be annoying [13:36] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [13:36] C_Tux: got it, thank you. :) [13:36] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.214) left irc: "Leaving" [13:36] silvergold: :) [13:37] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:37] ok, something has been eating my / since texlive failed to build, hmmm, ok, just stopped [13:37] C_Tux: I was use XeLaTeX i think when I was using it a whil back [13:38] using* [13:38] he, actually the package is being created even though the build failed [13:38] powtrix, wq! doesnt work, cannot write changes with mc editor ... rk4n3 the fs isnt in ro mode, since i could modify rc.inet1 to load the conf from a new file rc.inet3.conf instead rc.inet1.conf [13:38] v4nelle (n=van@adsl174-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:39] seems i cant write rc.inet1.conf, could be a fs inconsistency ?! [13:39] O.O' [13:39] x-ip: the proper way to force a write is :w! and then :q [13:39] x-ip: $ stat rc.inet1.conf [13:39] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [13:39] do mount -v | grep [13:40] root@www:/etc/rc.d# stat rc.inet1.conf [13:40] File: `rc.inet1.conf' [13:40] Size: 3579 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 regular file [13:40] Channel flood from x-ip -- kicking [13:40] Device: 901h/2305d Inode: 5261 Links: 1 [13:40] Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) [13:40] x-ip kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:40] x-ip (n=x-ip@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [13:40] sorry :S [13:40] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-8-201.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:40] x-ip: no problem - it showed enough of the output [13:40] C_Tux: you still online? [13:40] The-Croupier: yep :) [13:40] http://pastebin.ca/1479763 [13:40] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:41] The-Croupier: dcc ? [13:41] greetings to the channel... hiya C_Tux [13:41] C_Tux: could try...;) [13:42] my cpu is being used a lot but I can't find by what, seems the processes are too short-lived to be seen (even with 'top -d .1'), any tip to find what is using the processor ? [13:42] htop [13:42] keep an eye on the top bit... [13:42] hmm, it just finished, I won't know =/ [13:42] but I'll install htop for next time :) [13:43] htop..shows stuff as they run...even if they are there for a little while... you might be able to catch something... [13:43] C_Tux: dcc failed i think...:( [13:43] The-Croupier: yeah, doesn't seem to be working [13:44] antiwire: have you given any of the 31-rc1's a go? [13:44] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [13:44] C_Tux: any ideas? [13:44] just wait a few secondes ;) [13:44] nope [13:44] C_Tux: no problema [13:44] ;) [13:44] hiya antiwire [13:44] 'Linux tux 2.6.31-rc1 #74 SMP Mon Jun 29 12:58:52 CEST 2009 x86_64' hmmm.... [13:45] antiwire: allright, was just curious [13:45] The-Croupier: http://pers.yaxm.org/temp/webkit-1.1.10.tar.gz [13:45] what was the question about -31 ? [13:45] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left ##slackware. [13:45] ok, bbs [13:45] C_Tux: thank yous [13:46] The-Croupier :) [13:46] have fun :) [13:46] and fasten your seat belt ;p [13:46] ill try to make... ;) and play [13:46] C_Tux: Linux slack64 2.6.30-rc6-wl-smp [13:46] chopp: haha, I'm trendier than you :D [13:47] C_Tux: yeah I'm just waiting for ath5k/AP mode :P [13:48] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: [13:48] will firefox 3.0 be pushed out soon in the current repo? [13:48] C_Tux: #74 wtf haha [13:49] sorry, s/3.0/3.5/ [13:49] cherife: no. I doubt it will. [13:50] BP{k}: okay, thanks [13:52] cherife: hmm, to be honest, now I don't know. I based my information on the fact that yesterday or so , it was still in RC status. [13:52] hey BP{k}, how's it going? [13:52] silvergold: upgrading to 64-current :D [13:52] BP{k}: \o/ [13:52] 64-current ftw [13:52] BP{k}: send me some 64bit hardware and I will too. ;) [13:53] silvergold: Hah! [13:53] guys i have slack64....and when i install libs from slackbuilds.org these installed on /usr/lib and i must copy them with hands....there is any other way to install these on /usr/lib64? [13:53] BP{k}: I take that as a no? [13:53] silvergold: the first person to get new 64bit hardware is kethry. :) [13:53] BP{k}: that's understandable. [13:54] BP{k}: i didnt get it... how come? [13:54] silvergold: then I want a new laptop and stuffz ;) .. if by that time I have money left .. I keep you in mind ;) [13:54] BP{k}: alright, thanks. :) [13:54] The-Croupier: you didn't get "what"? [13:54] chopp: he, I recompile my kernel so often ;) [13:54] why is kethry the first to get 64bit hardware [13:55] C_Tux: just a tad ;) [13:55] The-Croupier: ...... how many resaons do you want? [13:55] C_Tux: im missing some libraries...trying to make them one by one [13:55] v4nelle: modified the slackbuild to add LIBDIRSUFFIX [13:55] BP{k}: just one [13:55] ;) [13:55] rworkman: now I know what you meant when you said texlive was huge... [13:55] The-Croupier: she's my girlfriend. [13:56] The-Croupier: which ones ? you need icu and I think that's about it [13:56] BP{k}: fair enough [13:56] C_Tux: says something about a soup ;) [13:56] libsoup [13:56] bleh [13:56] ;) [13:56] cherife, ok thx [13:56] :) [13:56] how come my diff isn't recursing subdirectories [13:56] i'm using diff -ru [13:57] The-Croupier: oh right, that's a quite recent library, they used to rely on curl but it wasnt' perfect [13:57] diff -Nur is probably what you want [13:57] what's N [13:57] diff -YoMama [13:57] oh [13:57] i see [13:57] grekkos: the letter after M and before O ;) [13:57] grekkos: treats absent files as empty, but it doesn't affect what you're doing really [13:57] Dominian: how come everytime you enter..everyone goes into funny mode ;) [13:58] wow [13:58] :) [13:58] it spit it every file i think [13:58] is there something on irc..that goes like if Dominian == join then --enable-funnymode [13:58] [ in bed ] [13:58] rob0: greetings [14:00] [ in bed ] [14:00] libsoup-2.2.105-i486-1_SBo [14:00] this is what i got...but i have to have something more than 2.4 [14:00] where on earth? [14:00] hmm i don't know if it's comparing the right way [14:01] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:02] hey guys [14:02] oh jesus [14:02] that's why [14:02] 1969-12-31 19:00:00.000000000 -0500 [14:02] lol [14:02] wth [14:02] The-Croupier: I've got newer libsoup in READY for the next update to 12.2, but it might be tomorrow before it goes out [14:03] is there an e17 build yet? [14:03] rworkman: i found 2.26. and 2.27 downloading it now [14:03] if i make ok..ill give you a shout [14:03] Get 2.26, and use --without-gnome [14:03] rworkman: yep...thats my plan [14:03] Don't bohter trying it without the --without-gnome, it needs libevent and gconf that way [14:03] libsoup is in stock slackware now ? [14:03] libevent is fine, but gconf isn't :) [14:03] er, s/libevent/libproxy/ [14:04] C_Tux: no [14:04] ok, misunderstood [14:04] This is for SBo [14:04] rworkman: im downloading the source and using the sbo slackbuild ;) [14:04] and I have compiled gconf just fine two weeks ago [14:04] Yeah, gconf builds fine; it's just that I don't see the need to require it for libsoup [14:04] im getting the 2.27though...is it alright? [14:04] rworkman: agreed [14:04] The-Croupier: I didn't test 2.27.x; that's -devel for 2.28.x [14:05] rworkman: hmm, maybe proxies actually [14:05] You can try it though; maybe it will build without the --without-gnome and with libproxy [14:05] I understood my googling to mean that 2.26.x had bugs that couldn't be resolved in time to omit gconf [14:05] or maybe it was bugs in libproxy [14:06] cherife (n=cherife@218.109.144.147) left irc: "leaving" [14:06] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:07] bbs :) [14:07] rworkman: looks like its building with the --without-gnome ;) [14:07] LMAO can't let bugs stand in the way of a release cycle, [14:07] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434836.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] oh okay so i was comparing the wrong directories... i.e., comparing /a/foo/bar with /b/foo/ [14:07] and apparently, libsoup's use for gconf is proxy configuration [14:08] libsoup sounds delicious [14:08] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:09] 2.27 doesn build ;) some stupid error cp: cannot stat `ChangeLog': No such file or directory [14:09] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [14:09] if you change the versions of the sources that a build script uses you will often have to fix other parts of the build script [14:10] is there a diff option to just show me what files are different, without listing the differences? I forgot how i did this last time [14:10] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:11] antiwire: understood... but there seems to be nothing of the kind in there...:( [14:11] grekkos: so yo uwant us to read 'man diff' for you? [14:11] diff -q [14:11] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:11] I'm reading through it now antiwire [14:12] thanks XGizzmo_ [14:12] that must have been the only line i didn't read somehow [14:12] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: "Leaving" [14:12] The-Croupier: ...then the file has been moved or does not exist in the different source version [14:13] antiwire: i see...;) [14:13] ill try it manually without the script [14:13] maybe there is something in the script i didnt notice [14:14] what do you mean? [14:14] look in the section of the script where the documentation is setup. this isn't a big deal [14:14] at the very least, just remove the Changelog copy [14:15] antiwire: did a ./configure manually and the only thing that seems remotely wierd is configure: Some regression tests will not be run due to missing packages: php-xmlrpc [14:16] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [14:16] do you understand that this output you pasted is from the build script...not configure? cp: cannot stat `ChangeLog': No such file or directory [14:16] how do I set input language to other than english? [14:16] i want to keep slackware in english [14:17] antiwire: yep.. [14:17] so why are you worried about manually running configure? [14:18] just fix the build script [14:18] the cp part was in the script..and changelog was the first one... i just removed it.. [14:18] then i did a manually configure to see...if that would work..and it worked fine [14:18] then i created the pkg with the script and it worked fine [14:18] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] just checking the pkg now [14:19] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:23] nod_ (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Nick change: nod_ -> nod [14:24] y'know this internet thing? [14:24] has anyone happened upon a repo of logrotate configs on it for commonly-used apps? [14:25] Internet, eh? Never heard of it. [14:25] eviljames: you know, the tubes ? [14:25] nah.. it's not widely known-about [14:26] anyone know if there is an e17 build yet? [14:26] Someone here did.. I think it was silvergold. [14:26] Zordrak: just wait until people hear and start talking about it, it'll be larger than life. [14:27] fluxnuk3r: I built it myself, I don't belive there's a build of it on SBo or anything yet though. [14:27] Zordrak: what this .. t'internetz? ;) [14:27] BP{k}: I just looked it up, it appears to be a MASSIVE pornography delivery system. I can't believe I hadn't used this before! [14:28] Well.. since you're all awake now pondering this new fangled intergubbins... you can all comment on the availability of logrotate configs :) [14:28] eviljames: wait I have heard of this .. wasn't this designed so in case of a nuclear attack, the US armed forces still can have access to porn? [14:28] silvergold: care to share? :) [14:29] fluxnuk3r: If I can find the build, sure. I did a clean install the other day so things are shuffled around. [14:29] adeodatus (n=rp@92.85.218.19) left irc: "Leaving" [14:29] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [14:29] eviljames: something with ARPA .. advanced redudant pornography application ... IIRC. [14:29] o.o [14:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:30] dive :D [14:30] BP{k}: I'm pretty sure you recall correctly on that one. It's a brave new world, my friend. [14:31] there is no ettercap for slackware? 0_0 [14:31] stealth-: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/ettercap-NG/ [14:32] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] stealth-: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ettercap+slackbuild [14:33] silvergold: thanks. I was searching for plain ettercap, didnt notice the NG [14:33] ahh, lmgtfy, my favorite website. [14:33] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [14:34] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) left irc: Client Quit [14:36] ff3.5 porn mode++ [14:36] Zordrak: haha, that sites awesome. [14:36] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.39.244) left irc: "leaving" [14:37] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Has anyone packaged OOo 3.x for x86_64 yet? [14:38] or wine for that matter [14:38] probably not considering its just a repacakage of what SBo offers [14:38] compiling OOo for any arch is a pain [14:38] hiptobecubic: you need 32bit compatibility libs for wine [14:39] There is a 64bit OOo though [14:39] pre-compiled [14:39] alienBOB: I got digikam working great now. Thanks for the help yesterday. [14:40] alienBOB, hmm. Well Wine i'll need for sure. alienBOB how does one setup the compatibility libs? [14:40] alienBOB, sir, I don't suppose you have a liitle cubby-hole somewhere full of your default logrotate confs do you? [14:40] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Zordrak: I never publish my private machine configs [14:41] alienBOB: i just thought it might be the type of thing hanging around with, for example, default rc scripts [14:41] hiptobecubic: I am about to write a blog and/or wiki article about my (not yet uploaded) own implementation of the 32bit compatibility layer for Slackware64 [14:41] hrm.. I thought fred was working on that [14:41] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] Zordrak: I'll let you in on a secret: I do not have logrotate scripts unless I have put them in my packages... usually I start deleting logs fast, right after my /var partition overflows [14:42] Dominian: fred has a different approach [14:42] er ok [14:42] He used the slamd64 binaries to create Slackware64 binaries [14:42] alienBOB: lol! how come? surely not just laziness? [14:42] I did it all from scratch, using only Slackware64 binaries [14:42] Laziness indeed [14:42] alienBOB, that's great. I'll make it with OOo/googledocs and no wine for now. When can I expect to start bugging you about the article (for which the community will be super grateful i'm sure :D) [14:43] hiptobecubic: before SLackware 13.0 is released it should be all written and published [14:43] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [14:43] im really surprised no-one (that ive found) has a collection of them.... hmm maybe if i added ubuntu to my search terms ;) [14:44] alienBOB, alrighty. [14:45] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [14:46] alienBOB, where is that 64bit OOo package you were talking about ? is it on your site? [14:46] No no [14:47] I think you need to look at go-ooo [14:47] fred's approach was laziness? [14:47] and no, he does NOT need go-ooo [14:47] thrice`: well slamd64 *is* his [14:47] so? he compiled the 32-bit stuff on slackware64, I'm fairly certain [14:48] I was more interested in the pureness of the multilib implementation - like when starting my port of Slackware to 64bit... I could easily have used one of the available forks but I did not [14:48] thrice`: yes, that he did [14:48] That is the easy part [14:48] and it only took him 3 months to port it all :P [14:48] Creating the gcc and glibc 32bit component is the hard part [14:48] http://ftp-atl.osuosl.org/pub/openoffice/stable/3.1.0/OOo_3.1.0_LinuxX86-64_install_en-US.tar.gz will work out of the box with the SBo script, if you change arch to x86_64 [14:49] thrice`, thanks. [14:50] ahah! 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[14:51] Dominian: indeed (how did you know?) it took me a little over 3 months from scratch to a full Slackware64 package tree that I kept in sync ever since [14:51] alienBOB: damn you [14:51] however, every package that is up there now was built on slackware64 without slamd64 packages installed [14:51] thrice`: I never used the word improper [14:51] alienBOB: I was taking a stab at "someone else" [14:52] Ah... that one [14:52] alienBOB: yes [14:53] thrice`: I just said I took another approach, by not using precompiled multilib binaries to create those for Slackware64 [14:53] Action: Zordrak left his knife at home [14:53] no stabbing for me :( [14:53] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Action: pi31415 just learned about grep lm /proc/cpuinfo [14:53] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [14:53] I see [14:54] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [14:54] I guess I assumed "improper" because you were redoing them [14:56] thrice`: there is nothing wrong with multilple approaches to the same issue [14:57] Both results are the same: that you can use and create 32bit binaries on Slackware64 [14:57] is there any explanation as to why `pkill ssh` would kill sshd as well? [14:58] dartmouth: it's a substring match (actually a regex) [14:58] oh, lovely [14:58] well I just got locked out of my machine in wisconsin [14:58] I adapted the idea that you do not have to recompile 32bit Slackware binaries - I use the 'real' Slackware 32bit packages and just re-package them so that they can be installed on Slackware64 - an idea coincidentally also based on an original script by fred [14:58] because I didn't know that. [14:58] dartmouth: before using pkill, use pgrep (which works the same way, but only lists the PIDs instead of killing them) [14:58] Urchlay: will do, if i ever get access again lol [14:59] it's just an embarrassing phone call [14:59] what were you trying to do, exactly? [14:59] something better done with /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd restart, perhaps? [15:00] i wasn't thinking and thought maybe I had some zombie ssh sessions (im getting a strange thing where my connection will lag and then my terminal hosting the ssh screen will lock up) [15:00] in my thinking pkill matched the process name verbatim [15:00] not everything that starts with that string [15:01] pgrep ssh|xargs ps <--- shows the actual process names instead of just the PIDs [15:01] so `pkill X` will kill 'eXcalibur' 'X' 'X11' 'Xorg' 'Xtra-stuff-that-shouldnt-be-touched' and 'the_X_rated_process'? [15:01] Usually I just would run "killall ssh" [15:01] dartmouth: yes [15:02] ++alienBOB; [15:02] Action: dartmouth has a panic attack [15:02] I've been using that wrong for YEARS [15:02] get this boy some xanax [15:02] jerk. [15:03] dartmouth: start looking into monit, or mon [15:03] alienBOB: will do, thx [15:04] I have been using monit for years to ensure high-availability of services [15:04] slipttees (n=rene@201.9.207.252) joined ##slackware. [15:04] slipttees (n=rene@201.9.207.252) left ##slackware. [15:05] OOOooooo... VirtualBox 3 just hit the shelves [15:06] fluxnuk3r: sorry, but I'm not finding the e17 stuff I used. I don't know if it got lost in the shuffle or what. What I had done is got the source and used the SBo slackbuild. [15:07] silvergold: ok. thanks for the looking though :) [15:08] a wizard has turned you into a land raider, is this awesome (y/n)? [15:08] so firefox 3.5 is final now ? [15:08] fluxnuk3r: you're welcome. :) [15:08] juice: yes [15:08] juice: very [15:08] hmm was looking at known bugs [15:08] wonder if those got fixed [15:09] maybe I was on the rc page for it [15:10] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:15f) joined ##slackware. [15:10] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-100-220.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:11] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: "Leaving" [15:12] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:13] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:13] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-129-186.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:17] juice, yea [15:18] but the acid3 test is down :( [15:18] 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 022 019 030 Pre-fail Always FAILING_NOW 12008753011045 [15:18] Would that be enough reason to send a drive back? [15:18] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:19] Nick change: Guest34419 -> pragma_ [15:21] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:21] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.87.103) joined ##slackware. [15:25] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-156-14.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:26] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:28] yarvin (n=yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left ##slackware. [15:31] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:31] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-186-213-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] Zosma: You'd probably have to run the manufacturer's diagnostic, but my short answer is: yep [15:32] Mmm [15:34] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-186-213-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] That will mean running SeaTools. [15:34] Which is a bit shitty for Slamd64 innit :-P [15:35] Ow lol they have a linux version. [15:37] Zosma, its a bootable cd.... [15:38] Wiren (n=aad@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [15:42] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:44] campassi (n=linko47@pluto.cse.msstate.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:44] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:46] edman007: mmm I can only find a windows, dos and linux version... not a bootable one. [15:47] bootable one what? [15:47] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-232.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Zosma, the DOS one is bootable [15:47] Ah the dos one can be ... yes :-PO [15:47] Just found it hehe. [15:48] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.26) joined ##slackware. [15:50] oh [15:51] doesn't windows 95 have a bootable dos? [15:51] i upgraded 3 fw's hdd week ago with this iso [15:51] on the install disc [15:51] Didn't originally, maybe later CD's were bootable, but not the 1995 retail release. [15:51] oh, bootable DOS? Sure it did. [15:52] i 95 cd was rare.. [15:52] just go to bootcd.com or whatever it is and get it from there [15:52] So did 98, and so did ME, if you hacked it a tiny bit. [15:52] Anyone here using zpm/zendo? http://zendo.naquadah.org/index.php?title=Main_Page [15:53] installing 95 with floppy disks was leet about 40 plus of them [15:53] ugh [15:53] and 3/4 of the way through you find out disk #31 is bad [15:53] lol [15:53] true [15:53] Urchlay: or it during upgrade it asks for a disk you used as a coaster [15:54] God, it sucks thinking of all the time I wasted learning W95 tricks. I could have been learning useful stuff, and maybe now, I'd be smart! [15:55] not too long ago I threw out a set of OS/2 install floppies [15:56] I have gigabit networking in my studio but none of my systems have the disk throughput to take full advantage of the line speeds. it's sad. [15:56] 5 or 6 of them were missing, and half the rest were covered in what I hope was just spilled coffee... [15:56] I used to have some things for the Indigo platform somewhere [15:56] I have a set of install CDs (not floppies) for IRIX 6.something, but my poor old Indy doesn't seem to boot any more [15:56] has anyone tried Firefox 3.5 yet? [15:57] It runs like absolute shite on my box [15:57] everything tachs out at ~35-50MB/sec and the disk io is pinned on both ends [15:58] scubacuda_ (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [16:00] nheco (n=nheco_nh@189.98.98.100) joined ##slackware. [16:00] ver antiwire [16:01] nice try [16:01] wtf [16:01] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:01] adeodatus: you like that version output? not so useful now is it? [16:01] you fail [16:01] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) left irc: "leaving" [16:01] idiot [16:01] hey speaking of such...antiwire, version me ;) [16:01] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [16:01] i missed something there [16:01] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [16:01] lol [16:02] did you convert it? [16:02] What are you retarded? [16:02] hahah [16:02] \o/ [16:03] Provided his client supports UTF, all he gets from me is / [16:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:04] exibo you are useing Ubuntu? [16:05] adeodatus: looking for trouble or what? [16:06] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.139.159) joined ##slackware. [16:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] adeodatus: why are you scanning everyone's IRC client's version unsollicited? [16:09] adeodatus: We understand that ctcp version is part of the protocol but your approach is often considered combative. [16:09] do you realize this? [16:09] not everyone's, he didnt scanned mine ;) [16:09] :-) Well it's not a criminal offence but... more like what antiwire said. [16:09] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] I want to use to same irc client. [16:11] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:11] then why don't you just ask us? [16:12] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:13] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.156.33) joined ##slackware. [16:13] please don't get me wrong! [16:14] adeodatus: well now you know how most people feel about getting versioned [16:14] campassi (n=linko47@pluto.cse.msstate.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:15] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: Connection timed out [16:15] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:15] alienBlurb (i=3351@slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] v4nelle (n=van@adsl174-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:18] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:20] I guess the proper thing to do is to A) Compile your irc client without the ctcp replies or B) Hex them out of a compiled version ;p [16:20] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] I changed my version reply to something different, nobody ever tries to version me though. :P [16:22] you don't need to hex them out [16:22] decent clients support changing the version string [16:22] irssi supports changing it. [16:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434836.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:23] with /set ctcp_version_reply whatever_you_want_here [16:24] silvergold: be careful with that. I discovered freenode is picky about the exact format of the version response string [16:25] irssi definately falls into the decent category [16:25] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left irc: "Leaving." [16:25] Urchlay: Hmm, alright. I have it set to something now, no issues yet anyway. [16:25] (the server or some official bot will version you when you connect, if it doesn't like the cut of your jib, you'll get disconned) [16:25] I've never had a problem with freenode and version strings and I'm even using UTF codes [16:25] prepare to be ctcp versioned! [16:25] go [16:26] replay (n=replay@69.26.205.127) joined ##slackware. [16:26] you like my yin-yang symbol? [16:26] antiwire: I've been trying to get those working in irssi, utf stuff, but no dice yet. I get support for it, just haven't figured out how to make the characters. [16:26] YOU LIKE! [16:26] either xterm, irssi, or my font is screwing it up: 16:23 CTCP VERSION reply from antiwire: ý[K [16:26] Urchlay: you need to set irssi for utf support. [16:26] it's set for that [16:26] and the terminal possibly, if it doesn't support it out of the box [16:27] hm, there's another layer here, I forgot I'm using screen... [16:27] I've got liberation fonts here and I see antiwire's yin-yang symbol just fine. [16:27] I use screen also [16:27] did you have to enable utf8 in screen, or does it do that by default? [16:27] just get urxvt and be happy. :P [16:27] I get ? myself [16:27] Action: Urchlay sticks with the good old standard xterm [16:28] boo [16:28] urxvt ftw [16:28] no, I didn't have to do anything with screen, just irssi in my case because I use urxvt which is unicode to begin with. [16:28] Urchlay: I think you do have to enable it [16:28] 9 <---should be an unhappy face [16:28] I get at least some stuff OK (accented letters: áóäæçèê) [16:28] does slackware ship urxvt? [16:29] no [16:29] rg3: no, it's on SBo, rxvt-unicode [16:29] antiwire: it's a circle with a ? in it (because the font I'm using doesn't have a glyph for it, most likely) [16:29] yeah [16:29] does it have any advantage over uxterm? (i've been using uxterm) [16:29]  <--should be a handicap symbol [16:30] Urchlay: tryin to do do unicode screen with irssi? [16:30] your yin-yang isn't just a missing glyph, the [K probably means it's not even being decoded correctly [16:30] grekkos: yeah, and with xterm [16:30] i tihnk you need to /set term_charset=utf-8 in irssi [16:30] oh [16:30] 16:28 term_charset = utf-8 [16:30] what does your $LANG say in xterm? [16:30] already was that way [16:30] likely nothing [16:30] you also have to set that from what i've heard [16:30] Urchlay: do you have you're language set to utf as well? [16:30] # <--biohazard symbol [16:30] en_US <--- I was wrong, that's what $LANG is set to [16:31] needs to be en_US.utf8 i think [16:31] Urchlay: you need en_us-UTF.8 [16:31] yeah [16:31] ah, OK [16:31] tiny tiny biohazard symbol [16:31] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] antiwire: going to try again here [16:31] I just did this yesteday so it's fresh in my mind hehe [16:31] go [16:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [16:32] eh, well, I won't mess with it right this very minute [16:32] am assuming I'd need to kill irssi and screen, export LANG="en_US.utf8", re-run them [16:32] yes [16:32] (eh, or would the xterm itself need to be exited & rerun with that in the environment as well?) [16:33] en_US.UTF-8 [16:33] well no [16:33] you can just detatch screen [16:33] oh *really*? [16:33] Action: chopp tries [16:33] freack_ (n=frkbr@189.58.216.231.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:33] that's what I did [16:33] chopp fails. :) [16:33] „ „… that's right...i just rolled 7-11 [16:33] hahah [16:33] :O [16:33] whoa [16:33] lol [16:33] 16:31 CTCP VERSION reply from antiwire: ⯠[16:33] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:34] freack_ (n=frkbr@189.58.216.231.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:34] still not workin [16:34] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [16:34] brb, urxvt is messed up with the wallpaper. [16:34] and now the few accented letters I know how to type, aren't displaying correctly [16:34] (and other weird stuff is happening. Bleah.) [16:34] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [16:34] hmm [16:34] did you resume with U? [16:34] anyone need some coffee?  [16:35] that's what I did iirc [16:35] screen -Ur [16:35] no, was I supposed to? :) [16:35] -U enables UTF-8 for screen [16:35] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [16:35] ahh [16:35] same funky results :( [16:35] i don't know that you need to do it on reattaching but I always do it [16:35] hmm [16:35] check your term [16:35] in screen [16:36] it's "screen" [16:36] (which is what I expected) [16:36] i meant try typin in characters in screen [16:36] in a term [16:36] oh, right [16:36] to see if it's irssi or the term [16:37] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [16:37] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "doing other stuff..." [16:37] that works, typing accented letters in a shell [16:37] å,ž [16:37] any luck with those? [16:37] some kanji i think [16:37] shh that was a question for Urchlay [16:37] lol [16:37] no cheating! [16:37] haha [16:38] that displays as an "ae", a yen sign, another "ae", a box-drawing right angle, a back-accented e, and a little superscripted/underlined cursive a [16:38] silvergold (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.94.72) joined ##slackware. [16:38] ah nope, it should be japanese like antiwire was saying [16:38] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:39] I severely doubt I have japanese characters in this font, but then I should be seeing the circle-questionmark "no glyph" symbol [16:39] Ugh, urxvt is transparent and showing the wallpaper, but the default wallpaper for kde4, not the wallpaper I have set. :P [16:39] the fact that I see that other weirdness means it's not being decoded to the right unicode code-points [16:39] http://tinypic.com/r/v2vd4w/5 [16:39] i didn't think xterm worked with utf8 but maybe it does [16:39] hmm i guess it does mine seems to be handling it [16:40] oh that's rxvt i was thinking of [16:40] grekkos: it says it does [16:40] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:40] "grep -i utf .Xdefaults" shows "XTerm*utf8: 1" and "XTerm*locale: UTF-8", I wouldn't have put those there unless some man page or something told me how :) [16:41] and you have lang set to en_US.UTF-8 ? [16:41] it's possible that xterm's unicode implementation is incomplete? Like, does Kanji use combining characters? [16:42] yeah kanji are multibyte [16:42] mine works in xterm though [16:42] when i paste in [16:42] hmmm [16:42] Action: fred points towards konsole [16:42] fred: gross! [16:42] export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 [16:42] (for one thing I'm not running KDE at all) [16:43] I don't like konsole much either [16:43] you might like urxvt thourh [16:43] yeah, I might try it [16:43] i'm actually running kde right now which is against what i normally do [16:44] grekkos: what do you usually use? [16:44] original reason for sticking to xterm was, I used to use it for serial comms with various weird systems, and its VT100 compatibility was perfect compared to konsole, rxvt, etc. (of that time period anyway) [16:44] silvergold: i usually use fluxbox or gnome (for non-slack) and i use urxvt on flux [16:44] but, eh, I don't really do much stuff like that any more [16:44] fluxbox ftw!!!! :) [16:44] hehe [16:45] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.124.8) joined ##slackware. [16:45] grekkos: I'm on kde4 right now, but otherwise I use flux as well. :) [16:45] I wanted to set up my work box quickly because my colleagues were angry I spent so much time setting it up [16:45] but mine's the most stable system in the office :) [16:45] in addition to the oldest, and crummiest. [16:45] but it doesn't lock up as much as everyone else's windows machines [16:45] nheco (n=nheco_nh@189.98.98.100) left irc: Connection timed out [16:46] grekkos: you've seen tenr.de for flux styles? [16:46] hope [16:46] nope* [16:46] grekkos: he's got a ton of them. All can be downloaded in one tarball too. [16:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] he has a few irssi themes as well, and some scripts [16:46] nice [16:46] Guest76650 (n=nheco_nh@189.98.114.221) joined ##slackware. [16:47] the thing I've never understood... how can people stand working in ultra-locked-down windows environments, where they can't change anything at all (wallpaper, fonts/fontsize, shortcuts on desktop, *nothing*)? [16:47] I'm using his My_DEFCON3 style atm. [16:47] I like his shot script [16:47] Action: fred sits happily on a machien that's not locked down with none of them changed [16:47] you gotta be shitting me. All that development and ff3.5 gets only 93% on acid3? :) [16:47] chopp: \o/ [16:48] this site looks great, thanks silvergold [16:48] grekkos: yw [16:48] Zordrak: seriously? That's it. [16:48] i officially abandoned firefox just now, it wont run without dbus and i am not installing dbus for a damn webbrowser [16:48] fred: I find it hard to use a windows XP machine with the default XP "fisher-price" theme [16:48] opera ftw!!!! [16:49] silvergold: 92 on the second run [16:49] Urchlay: haha, that's a good name for it too, fisher price. [16:49] links and/or lynx [16:49] and I've got crappy eyes so I need to be able to crank the font size up when/if I start getting tired [16:49] Zordrak: that's pathetic. Opera 10 snapshot gets 100 :) [16:49] silvergold: thats like the official name for that theme [16:49] i have konqueror & seamonkey on the big PC [16:49] Zordrak: :), I can see why. :) [16:49] yeah.. but you have to *learn* opera.. noone has to learn FF [16:50] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:50] big problew for them [16:50] silvergold: it's also known as "Windows for people who aren't allowed to handle sharp objects" [16:50] learn opera? why? It's not majorly different. [16:50] adeodatu2 (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [16:50] and if seamonkey follows in firefox's footsteps of making dbus a dependency i will dump it too [16:50] silvergold: it is.. shorcut bindings and mousey stuff and options are all non-intiutive [16:50] Zordrak: just got 91 here for FF 3.5 [16:50] if forced to use windows, I do OK with the UI set to "classic" or whatever they call it (original win95/98 look & feel) [16:51] which AFAIK can still be done even on Vista [16:51] *learn*...I couldn't agree with that more :P [16:52] Action: chopp hides from silvergold [16:52] Zordrak: I guess I don't notice that because I've been using opera since before they removed the ads, i.e. 7.x series [16:52] Action: silvergold hits chopp with a trout. [16:52] I think he works for opera [16:52] chopp: nope, just an opera advocate. :P [16:53] Action: chopp gets out the fry pan [16:53] It'd be cool to work for Opera. :) [16:53] haha, [16:53] least you could have battered that trout :( [16:54] I was in a hurry, sorry. :P [16:54] l4m3rx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [16:55] chopp: I had to hit ya before you got a way. :) [16:56] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Action: chopp puts the finishing touches on his ex prior to putting her on ebay [16:56] chopp, reinflating her? [16:56] haha [16:56] ;) [16:57] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-d9316f2df6972ab1) joined ##slackware. [16:57] If only it was that easy my friend [16:57] http://imagebin.org/54125 [16:57] i hear opera's big stand has been mobile devices lately [16:58] that link just crashed ff [16:58] thanks [16:58] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) left irc: Client Quit [16:58] l4m3rx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:59] animation has to be smooth [16:59] LOL [16:59] i thought mine was frozen [16:59] DeeeeP_: you're welcome. :) [16:59] i appear to have gotten a 72 [16:59] and no color [17:00] oh i guess there's a slight hint of color there [17:00] http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/IBM-Delivers-Smart-OpenSource-Compiler-695460/ [17:00] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [17:00] also some red dots and x's flying around :D [17:00] silvergold, what is this thing anyway? A compatibility test? [17:01] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-232.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:02] adeodatus (n=user@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [17:02] hello [17:02] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [17:04] hello moto [17:05] hiptobecubic: that link? acid3 test. [17:05] yeah. It's acid. It'll melt your browser... [17:05] or it'll make your browser hallucinate [17:05] Well i got a C- [17:05] hiptobecubic: you fail. :) [17:06] That's slightly better than failure.. [17:06] even a D was a passing grade when I was in school [17:06] MrPockets (n=Jimmy@unaffiliated/mrpockets) joined ##slackware. [17:06] adeodatus, [17:07] campassi (n=linko47@pluto.cse.msstate.edu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:07] cant understand acid3 tests [17:07] got 71 [17:07] what this about ? [17:08] only 71, what browser are you using? [17:08] Firefox [17:08] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] 3.0.10 [17:08] Hmm, I haven't checked my FF 3.0.x browser yet. [17:09] can u explain what does this test do ? [17:09] http://john.bitsurge.net/public/Screenshot-44.png :D [17:09] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:10] DeeeeP_: It's a test for web browsers to check how well they follow Web standards. [17:10] I think opera invented it ;) [17:10] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [17:10] hiptobecubic: you haz no colors. :P [17:10] where is the test? [17:10] colors are for fairies [17:10] grekkos: http://acid3.acidtests.org/ [17:11] hmm [17:11] takes a while to load? [17:11] y [17:11] confrey (n=chatzill@94.163.163.13) joined ##slackware. [17:11] hi everybody [17:11] mine just says: js? [17:11] grekkos: yeah, just let it sit and run. [17:11] i have it enabled :( [17:12] stealth-: let it sit, it will run. [17:12] y0 confrey [17:12] wtf..I get a black and white 71/100 with firefox, and a fail 53/100 with seamonkey [17:12] chopp: haha, that's what hiptobecubic gets too. [17:12] :D [17:13] congratulations, you two are living in the age of black and white. [17:13] 72 :( [17:13] and I've never done acid before [17:13] i got a51 [17:13] no 69 [17:13] chopp: haha, you sure? :P [17:13] grekkos: ouch, what browser? [17:13] Firefox [17:13] Action: chopp whacks silvergold [17:13] im gonna try opera [17:13] it took a while and then changed [17:13] from 51 to 69 [17:14] but my boxes are all in grayscale [17:14] I get the same with FF, 71 and black and white. I guess FF 3.5 is an improvement, but not much. [17:14] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [17:14] heh [17:14] stealth-: I tried opera 10, 100% :D [17:14] 60 :( [17:14] oh, 84 [17:14] really? [17:14] i have colors, at least [17:14] adeodatus (n=user@92.85.218.19) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] i think its still running [17:15] opera laggs on my system compared to FF [17:15] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:15] opera is usually relly fast compared to ffox [17:15] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) joined ##slackware. [17:15] wierd :/ [17:15] there are some stupid people out there [17:15] grekkos: opera is fast here. [17:15] yeah, for me it sits on 84 [17:15] http://digg.com/d1vIa0 [17:15] I installed opera on a windows 98 pc a few months ago [17:15] and it runs great [17:16] juice: ow! [17:16] opera on osol is unbelievably fast, for me anyway. [17:16] I wish it didn't lag for me, I kinda like it [17:16] juice: all I can say is wow :P [17:16] LOL look at this ! http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drunkenfist.com%2F304%2F2008%2F03%2F04%2Facid3-test-released-i-took-some-screen-captures-lots-of-fail%2F&ei=ZYBKSuv0EtKLtge3iZ2MCg&usg=AFQjCNFV817p3WkF0D0dffTT8-C3aaB5Eg [17:17] some pretty nice browsers there [17:17] my bad http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/04/acid3-test-released-i-took-some-screen-captures-lots-of-fail/ [17:18] wait! firefox got 100! [17:18] i just looked back at it and it says 100 [17:18] yay for ff3 :) [17:18] Firefox always gets 100, the browser is rigged. [17:18] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:18] eviljames, well mine certainly didn't [17:18] It overrides the results of the acid3 test to make you /think/ it got 100. [17:18] eviljames: lemme guess, you like opera? [17:19] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [17:19] stealth-: nah, just trolling pointlessly while I've got 5 minutes. [17:19] heh [17:19] hahaha [17:19] IE7 just got a 6/100 [17:19] lol, really? [17:19] yeah the guy next to me just tried it [17:19] Guest76650 (n=nheco_nh@189.98.114.221) left irc: Connection timed out [17:20] i dont know why one test came up with 71 and one with 100 on my machine :/ [17:20] opera is stuck at 84. stupid browser [17:20] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Peace!" [17:20] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-d9316f2df6972ab1) left irc: "Page closed" [17:20] stealth-: nah, eviljames LOVES opera. ;) [17:20] haha, opera refuses to go to a page on a forum i hang out on. It drops me to the main forum page when i enter the direct link, and I cant see it in the "latest posts" section [17:21] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:21] while im lookin at the page in ff [17:21] bbl [17:21] later hitest [17:21] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] sup all [17:21] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-0-185.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:21] see you, silvergold:) [17:21] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-7-234.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:21] heh epiphany gets 71 and firefox 3.0.11 gets 72 [17:22] for me [17:22] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [17:22] whoa, i just noticed that in compiz, if you press ctrl+alt+shift+arrow key, it moves the window your looking at to a different workspace. looks trippy [17:22] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-164-238.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] stealth-<< do u have compiz on slack? [17:22] no [17:23] got a good howto or guide u used? [17:23] sudo apt-get install compiz [17:23] compiz fusion stuff is on SBo blacksheep [17:23] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] stealth-: you in Debian or Ubuntu? [17:23] silvergold: ubuntu :( it looks pretty, so I wont take the time to uninstall it [17:24] shame, shame, shame. [17:24] I want to try gentoo on this machine, either that or put slackware on it, aswell [17:24] n00buntu alert ^^^^ ;) [17:24] rofl [17:24] heh [17:24] stealth-: you have slack on anything right now? [17:25] silvergold: no. thats why im here. [17:25] :O [17:25] jk, yeah, its on my laptop :) [17:25] I would hope so [17:25] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.183) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:25] :P [17:26] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.199) joined ##slackware. [17:26] DemoM (n=marcelo@201.41.41.202) joined ##slackware. [17:26] is slack the only distrobution still in kde3.5? [17:26] stealth-: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/ubuntu.jpg [17:26] ;) [17:26] I'm sure there's some others that are still using kde 3.5 [17:27] danc3: heh. My favourite is: ubuntu is african for "I dont know how to install debian" [17:27] lolz [17:27] uva (i=bno@118-160-171-157.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:27] hmmm... Ubuntu -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me" [17:28] slackware isnt really hard. I mean, most disto's are pretty similar. I just like having a different one on each computer. [17:28] imo ^ [17:28] too much work [17:28] it took me since slackware 10 till now to begin understanding this [17:29] but slack is one of the ezest [17:29] l4m3rx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [17:29] the only issue with having so many different distros is that you get the package management systems confused [17:29] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.87.103) left irc: "Leaving." [17:30] i always have to read the man pages for sbopkg and slackpkg before i can do anything :/ [17:30] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:30] DemoM (n=marcelo@201.41.41.202) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [17:30] stealth-, sbopkg is pretty easy these days [17:31] help please : I'm trying to insert ' notify-send "Volume OFF" ' in acpi_handler.sh, but if I insert it I loose that functionality [17:31] yeah, it just i need a refresher, cause i often forget if its slackpkg or sbopkg that uses the -i option. [17:32] i like slack alot cause of slackbook, and just how its more unix-like (not that im old enough to know what unix is like) [17:33] anyone familiar with sql injections? (this is ethical, dont worry :)) [17:34] if u know how to use the 'man' command you can use slack :D [17:34] Nick change: freack -> frk [17:35] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "pqp!" [17:35] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:15f) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:35] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:b9) joined ##slackware. [17:37] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [17:38] confrey (n=chatzill@94.163.163.13) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.16/2009061616]" [17:41] touch: setting times of `index.txt': Function not implemented [17:41] anyone know why slackware is giving me this error when scripts try to use 'touch' ? [17:41] root@septic:/etc/raddb/certs# touch fooz [17:41] touch: setting times of `fooz': Function not implemented [17:43] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] read-only directory or filesystem? [17:46] nope. [17:47] nheco (n=nheco_nh@200-102-206-89.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:47] adeodatu2 (n=adeodatu@92.85.218.19) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:51] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:57] dudes [17:57] guys and broskies [17:58] hey, is there a americas army for linux? [17:58] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:58] hey [17:58] no [17:58] an* [17:58] and its America's [17:58] what are you, some kinda commie? [17:58] no and you? [17:59] PRAISE ALLAH! [17:59] I remember years ago to play americas army on linux [17:59] IE IE I EI EI EI IE! [17:59] ((( (( ( ((((KERSPLODE)))) ) )) ))) [17:59] there is an America's Army for linux [18:00] enemy epxloded [18:00] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.139.159) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:00] Action: MrPockets tries to pernounce that aloud [18:00] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Action: The-Croupier waves at the channel [18:01] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [18:01] Action: eviljames moons the channel [18:01] Action: MrPockets poops on The-Croupier [18:01] Action: MrPockets high=fives eviljames [18:01] Action: The-Croupier thinks people sometimes are dirty [18:02] eviljames: ewww, don't you ever wipe? :P [18:02] Action: The-Croupier goes and haves a shower [18:02] Action: MrPockets goes home and stops being a troll [18:02] MrPockets (n=Jimmy@unaffiliated/mrpockets) left irc: "Has he quit, or has he simply become sneekier?..." [18:02] Action: The-Croupier thinks mrpockets..does good job...going home [18:03] chopp: No, toilet paper carries AIDS. [18:03] But people are confused about this, they think it's the toilet seat that carries the aids. [18:03] haha [18:04] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:05] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.26) left irc: [18:07] this kompozer thing takes ages [18:08] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Action: The-Croupier wonders... why do i have to compile all the things that dont compile or are huge...and take so long to compile? [18:08] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] the channel seems full...but noone is here... :( /me feels lonely...when no topics are elaborated...:( [18:09] What topics huh? [18:10] I think we already elaborated on the national threat that is buttfluff. [18:10] eviljames: evil... [18:10] What's next? More about pork aids, the enchiladapocalypse, pigflu, or whatever they're calling it today? [18:10] jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [18:11] eviljames: there are lots of things that people could talk about in slackware [18:11] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] such as? =p [18:11] Like slackware64 and how awesome it is? [18:11] eviljames: nahhh [18:11] i don't use slack64, so next! [18:11] eviljames: dont have slack64 either [18:12] my laptop would burst to flames and call me an idiot if i even remotely thought about it [18:13] would your laptop be right? :P [18:13] My laptop tried to do that. I soaked it in the bathtub for a bit, it was fine. [18:13] Maybe you should try that strategy. [18:13] silvergold: you never know... ask it a question [18:14] nah, I leave the questions for the irssi 8-ball script. :) [18:14] Action: dartmouth considers doing an `locate postfix | rm -R` [18:14] postfix works great [18:14] VampirePenguin (n=java@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [18:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [18:15] Action: Necos chuckles [18:16] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] silence! The counsel of robot elders is now called to order [18:20] Action: Necos stabs eviljames with a lightning rod [18:20] eviljames: crap, is that meeting tonight? [18:21] Action: silvergold turns Necos into a lightening rod. [18:21] you dudes' futurama-fu is weak. [18:21] eviljames: indeed it is, how could it be anything else when I don't watch the show? [18:22] Fool of a Took! how could you not watch that show? [18:22] I'd tell you to visit piratebay and get some of it asap, but that was sold to an internet cafe business. [18:23] :) [18:23] Just never cared for shows like futurama, etc. :) [18:24] Well, I have to go create a GUI in visual basic to track your ip. [18:25] The-Croupier: missyjane was in here looking for you again. [18:26] eviljames: Oh noes [18:26] missyjane sure likes doing things the hardway when it comes to installing/configuring software on a PC [18:27] confrey (n=dario@94.163.163.13) joined ##slackware. [18:27] cuz she likes it like dat [18:27] Good for her, I can always appreciate a woman who takes the hard way. [18:27] .... [18:27] she likes it hard [18:28] Well, I'll call it. Joke pronounced dead at 15:31 due to a case of obviousness. [18:28] chopp: are you sure she was looking for me? [18:28] I get tired of seeing such jokes. [18:28] and i would agree with pi31415 ;) [18:28] bad woman jokes...:( [18:29] that first comment i made was just an observation based on her comments concerning Linux/Slackware i did not intend to make it a joke [18:30] Way to pass the blame RipVanWinkle... [18:30] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:30] there was a pkg that showed how much hdd you have left...etc.. it even made charts of your files...:( hmm i found it on sbo :( is there a way to search sbo if i dont know the name..but just part of the description? [18:30] naw, i take all the blame, i will be the scapegoat for everything wrong in the world today [18:30] eviljames: lol [18:30] RipVanWinkle: not the world...just #slackware for today.. one step at a time [18:31] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.156.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:31] The-Croupier: I thought dolphin had that view built in... [18:31] we will see what happens tomorrow [18:31] eviljames: konqueror in 3.5 did, dolphin does not. [18:31] eviljames: ill check that [18:31] silvergold: ahh, thanks. [18:31] The-Croupier: ncdu [18:31] I'm trying to use 'notify-send' into acpi_handles.sh, but it don't work because can't use dbus session, what can I do? [18:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:32] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] replay (n=replay@69.26.205.127) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:32] RipVanWinkle: ncdu looks like it..but not the one i had in mind..looking for something else..damn :( [18:32] RipVanWinkle: thanks for that too ;) [18:34] you'll like it The-Croupier [18:34] RipVanWinkle: it is awsome... [18:34] reading the manual as we speak ;) [18:34] looking for how to get a total of all the disk...etc.. how to modify..etc [18:35] RipVanWinkle: thanks [18:35] cd / then run ncdu [18:35] or if you have several disk partitions cd in to the mountpoint then run it [18:36] looks nice.. and the menus are really smart and small [18:36] help is just ?, and a small page... [18:36] really cool... wish everything was so straight forward [18:36] me too, i like it because it is simple and to the point, just does that one job and does it well [18:36] yep... [18:37] looks like it [18:37] im in a dilema.. gkrellm or conky [18:37] gkrellm [18:37] eviljames: why? [18:37] i vote for gkrellm too [18:38] why? what makes you vote for it...? looks like conky is lighter.. "looks like" [18:38] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [18:39] No particular reason I guess. I use what I know, gkrellm is pretty simple and straightforward [18:39] never had any reason to bother with conky. [18:39] 636.5MB /var 442.1MB /opt 149.3MB /lib [18:39] du -h [18:39] err [18:40] 399G 336G 63G 85% /home [18:40] does that seem alright? [18:40] I have NO IDEA what about 250GB of that is. [18:40] I like conky myself. It can get heavy depending what you require of it. [18:40] nheco (n=nheco_nh@200-102-206-89.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:41] root@septic:/etc/zdca# touch certindex.txt [18:41] touch: setting times of `certindex.txt': Function not implemented [18:41] anyone have any ideas why this is happening? [18:41] reading the filename as a function?? [18:41] What is the underlying filesystem? [18:41] ext3 [18:41] /dev/root on / type ext3 (rw,data=ordered) [18:42] conky has a weird config file, gkrellm is easier just rightclick on it and go in to the options dialog [18:42] The function it says is not implemented is one about updating time on the file. (I think) [18:43] gkrellm is very nice. Has some decent themes too. [18:43] yep [18:43] It just seems terribly odd that such would be the case. [18:43] so do i need atime in fstab? [18:43] maybe i should put 'default' in there and mount -oremount / [18:43] Action: The-Croupier goes away to clear 5gb of /tmp and come back.. [18:43] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] /dev/xvda / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [18:43] seems its already got 'defaults' [18:43] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [18:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [18:44] akSeya (n=akSeya@189-95-78-228.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [18:49] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) left irc: "Leaving." [18:58] akath0r (n=root@87-196-210-156.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] confrey (n=dario@94.163.163.13) left irc: "Sto andando via" [19:02] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [19:02] chopp: forgot to mention that I'm using a git repository so the build number of the kernel is only going to increase, that's why it's so high ;) [19:02] y0 C_Tux [19:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:04] he silvergold :) [19:04] C_Tux: ahh alright then :) [19:04] managed to compile webkit ? [19:04] C_Tux: webkit just won't build for me at all. [19:04] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:04] :( [19:04] no ? ='( [19:04] do you have an error ? [19:04] nope, not at all. [19:04] *message [19:04] weird [19:04] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:04] yeah, I'll get the error, sec. [19:04] I'm on current btw, if that makes a difference. [19:05] it should work [19:06] C_Tux: yeah, it should. I'm using the tarball you sent me and the slackbuild from Sbo. Anything else I have to do? I changed the slackbuild to reflect the version you sent me. [19:08] silvergold: if you have libsoup and icu, it should work =/ [19:08] silvergold: ha, maybe run ./autogen.sh again [19:09] C_Tux: Hmm, I can give that a try. I do have libsoup and icu. [19:09] skrewball (i=836b004a@gateway/web/freenode/x-d765668cdd9791b1) joined ##slackware. [19:09] I am just trying to compile it again to get the error again, I thought I had saved the error, but I don't see it. [19:09] hi [19:09] hello [19:10] so i'm trying to use the :! feature of vi with a motion command [19:10] it says in the manual for vi i can do that, but i can't get it to work. [19:11] well, online versions [19:11] wait, i just answered my own question [19:11] thanks! [19:11] skrewball (i=836b004a@gateway/web/freenode/x-d765668cdd9791b1) left irc: Client Quit [19:12] C_Tux: [19:12] whoops [19:12] link didn't paste [19:12] :p [19:12] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/NTK0IR47.html [19:12] :) [19:14] :qw! /home/$USER/ [19:14] you broke webkit >.> [19:14] :( [19:14] I didn't mean to. [19:15] silvergold: it's pretty weird, dunno [19:15] C_Tux: don't tell me that, I want answers man, answers. :) [19:15] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:15] C_Tux: can you tell from that anything it's related to. [19:15] silvergold: you may try to extract the tarball and 'make distclean && ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make ' [19:16] then, you can at least try ./Programs/GtkLauncher [19:16] /JavaScriptCore/assembler/AbstractMacroAssembler.h:32:26: error: CodeLocation.h: No such file or directory <- answer [19:16] eviljames: right hahaha :P [19:16] eviljames: bah, I didn't even see that. [19:16] hehe line 8 [19:16] eviljames: thanks. [19:17] Razec (n=razec@201-1-115-76.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:17] silvergold: guess their build system is broken and didn't produce a proper source tarball [19:17] silvergold: try with http://webkitgtk.org/webkit-1.1.10.tar.gz [19:17] that one has to work :) [19:17] C_Tux: that's what I'm using, that's the one you sent me. [19:18] I'll download from there and try though, I want this to work. [19:21] silvergold: no, that's not the same [19:21] mine is more recent, it's made from my own git repo ;) [19:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434836.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:24] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [19:25] C_Tux: ah, ok. I'll give that a try then. Thank you. [19:26] alkos333: hi, you should update webkit-gtk's slackbuild and use the releases available from http://webkitgtk.org/?page=download , they're better than the nightlies ;) [19:26] (at least, they should always compile) [19:27] bbl [19:27] later eviljames [19:27] see ya eviljames [19:28] alkos333: also, don't use pango as a font backend, it doesn't work [19:28] (silvergold, you might want to remove the line that says "--with-font-backend=pango" in the slackbuild) [19:28] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [19:29] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [19:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-7-234.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-206.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] C_Tux: ok [19:32] silvergold: the are a few other things to change in the slackbuild : ./configure instead of ./autogen.sh [19:33] and the package name is webkit instead of WebKit [19:33] (and the folder inside is also lowercase) [19:34] anyone know what would be taking 10gb on my slack install :o [19:34] ? [19:34] C_Tux: ok [19:34] stealth-, ls -lh /var/log/* [19:34] stealth-: /tmp ? [19:34] C_Tux: df said /dev/root [19:34] stealth-: and 'du -hsx /*' [19:34] C_Tux: but im not sure what that explains [19:34] any homies in here atm able to recommend an inexpensive-but-good-for-the-price wireless router? [19:35] y0 antler [19:35] hey silvergold :) [19:35] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] antler, use linux on an old computer i guess [19:35] TwinReverb: not an option for me. i need a wireless router [19:36] antler: still on flux and lovin it? :) [19:36] antler, "need"? [19:36] antler: buy a wireless card? [19:36] silvergold: still dre [19:36] you can do that now, cant you? [19:37] TwinReverb: um, i have more than one computer at home and want each to have an internet connection. i prefer wireless in this case. [19:37] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] ah so you "prefer" 8-) [19:37] ... [19:37] Action: stealth- smacks TwinReverb [19:37] sorry, i've never seen anyone who owns a very cheap wireless router have a good experience with them [19:37] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-62.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] anyone with something intelligent to say? :P [19:37] Action: TwinReverb stabs stealth- [19:37] antler: my main computer also acts as an AP...works great [19:37] Action: stealth- dies [19:37] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:37] not me :( [19:37] hahaha [19:37] 8-( [19:38] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-62.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:38] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-226-203.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:38] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-62.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] chopp: yeah, i need a physical router, though. [19:38] *neeeed* [19:38] :P [19:38] Action: stealth- says (from the grave): why is my /tmp/ taking up 2GB? [19:38] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:38] Razec (n=razec@201-1-115-76.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:39] stealth-: using slackbuilds ? [19:39] C_Tux: yeah [19:39] C_Tux: i didnt know they took so much, though :O [19:39] check /tmp/SBo [19:39] C_Tux: It's churnin away, I'll let you know if it works. :) [19:39] du -sh /tmp/SBo [19:39] C_Tux: can I delete that, then? [19:39] thrice`: though "not me :( " was very intelligent (imo) :D [19:39] and /tmp/*.t*z [19:39] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-66-155-86.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:39] stealth-: yes, you can [19:40] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-27-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [19:40] antler: hey now! [19:40] cool, thanks [19:40] jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:40] now i have to figure out whats taking 5 gigs in my home dir [19:40] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Peace!" [19:40] oh, yeah. I have a few movies on it [19:40] opps [19:40] :O [19:40] silvergold: hannible movies [19:40] stealth-: :) [19:41] get rid of em, save yourself the 5G. :P [19:41] well, i just copied them over from my storage server to watch them at my dads, so yeah i can delete them now [19:41] /usr/ is 4.2G? [19:41] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:41] oh yeah, slack comes installed with alot of stuff. forgot about that [19:41] pretty much expected [19:42] sounds normal [19:42] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] I have an empty dir called /home/stealth/ate/12.2/ :S [19:42] im going to keep it [19:43] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] awwww, crap. :( [19:44] I had a file on my system I didnt know what it was, so I used "cat" on it. Forgot it was that 2.8G wordlist that crashes my system when I try to read it :( [19:44] wordlist? hmmm [19:45] lol [19:45] my neighbour wont share her internet [19:45] it crashes your system when you use "cat"? [19:45] jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [19:45] >:( [19:45] TwinReverb: yeah [19:45] stealth-, i don't blame her. get your own 8-P [19:45] granted did you offer to pay part of the bill? [19:45] TwinReverb: I'm guessing no. [19:46] TwinReverb: I would if my dad would let me, but he's all like "NO, no internet! if we get internet they will take over the world!!" [19:46] chopp: head ? ;p [19:46] wow... [19:46] or bpe [19:46] he seriously thinks something like Y2K is gonna happen and we will all die cause we wont know how to survive without them...... [19:46] except he doesnt talk like that [19:46] that was me :) [19:48] who said that? [19:48] TwinReverb [19:48] no, my dad. [19:49] >.> [19:49] tltstc (n=tltstc@vpn-scm.mscsoftware.com) joined ##slackware. [19:50] did you slap him with a trout? [19:50] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [19:50] stealth would have to learn how to fish first 8-) [19:50] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.124.8) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] let's not worry about the minor details here... [19:51] heh he said minor [19:51] fish can be bought 24-7 at the market [19:52] if the market is open 24/7 ... [19:53] again, let's not worry about the minor details [19:53] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-206.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Success [19:54] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-202.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] power saving modes on Linux are highly annoying to me recently [19:57] like setting advanced power management on my hard drive. that would be cool because i set XFS to the max caching memory i could and try to be frugal with disk usage, etc, but no, i hear the hard drive spin down for less time than it is spinning [19:57] so i hear the constant spin-up after it tries for 5 seconds to have hard drive spun down [19:57] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:57] linux would be so awesome with power consumption if there were just some way to get it to cache everything to RAM or something so the hard drive didn't have to spin up [19:58] TwinReverb: you can do that, but you need enought ram ;) [19:58] silvergold: /me done compiling webkit-gtk, worked fine [19:58] TwinReverb: yeah someone said today.. he had 8gb of ram...and he didnt have enough :( [19:58] xchat writing to its scrollback buffer, and firefox's gayness both cause it to constantly spin back up [19:59] akSeya (n=akSeya@189-95-78-228.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:59] C_Tux: havent compiled that yet...but then again...its like 3am..need to wake up at 7.. :( for a long jurney [19:59] i have 2 GB RAM and "free" shows 800MB not used [19:59] C_Tux: It's compiling here, I'll let ya know if it is a success. [19:59] the power saving is not aggressive enough [19:59] The-Croupier: you should really go to bed, and so do I actually ;) [19:59] lol [19:59] TwinReverb: i have 3gb of ram and free shows 2.875free [19:59] surely i'm not writing 800MB every 5 seconds to disk, it ought to be able to let that stuff sit in memory until it really needs to write [20:00] fluxbox is like feather [20:00] i'm talking disk write caching, not memory caching itself [20:00] TwinReverb: it's not the writes that make your hard drive spin up, it's the reads [20:00] i'm not using any new programs so what is it reading? [20:00] TwinReverb: and you want to check 'laptop-mode' [20:00] i set laptop-mode already [20:00] C_Tux: what is laptop mode? [20:00] TwinReverb: there's a tool in the kernel for that, can't remember the name though [20:01] The-Croupier: will make your hard drive spin up less frequently [20:01] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] at least when it comes to writes, against (uncached) reads it can't do anything [20:01] nice... is that in the kernel you said? [20:01] The-Croupier: yes [20:01] hmmm..writting it down [20:01] /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode [20:01] and with a userland app [20:01] echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode [20:02] C_Tux: why do you make me stay up all night [20:02] TwinReverb: is that command gonna do anything? [20:02] The-Croupier: because I hate you ;p [20:02] last i checked the userland app merely sets and unsets that stuff based on power mode [20:02] if you know how to program /etc/acpi/acpi_handler.sh you won't need it [20:02] C_Tux: nice to know someone cares ;) [20:02] :p [20:03] i always thought laptop_mode was supposed to be set to 1 for laptops... [20:03] everything i read specifies 5 for some reason, i think higher numbers are higher levels of caching or something [20:03] hmmm [20:03] maybe [20:03] TwinReverb: and before using laptop-mode, read the doc ! [20:03] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [20:04] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [20:04] If you want to find out which process caused the disk to spin up, you can [20:04] gather information by setting the flag /proc/sys/vm/block_dump. [20:04] crap, wanted to make tha a single line [20:04] are you using ext3? [20:04] i read about that in the kernel ml [20:05] The value of the laptop_mode knob determines the time between the occurrence of disk I/O and when the flush is triggered. A sensible value for the knob is 5 seconds. Setting the knob to 0 disables laptop mode. [20:05] C_Tux: do i have to go in the kernel and recompile or that echo 5 command TwinReverb posted is gonna do the trick? [20:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:05] The-Croupier, does /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode exist? [20:05] seems the correct for 2.6 kernels is echo 5 [20:05] The-Croupier: no [20:06] yes that path exists [20:06] path? it's a file [20:06] TwinReverb: file sorry [20:06] it's a path to [20:06] *too [20:06] the path to that file exists.. ;) [20:06] do i have to set it to 5? [20:07] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [20:07] that way, or going in the kernel and recompiling is in order? [20:07] ...would you call that use of the word "path" a "path-ological case"? [20:07] Urchlay: ;) [20:07] if the file already exists, then no... >.> [20:08] ...anyway it's past your bedtime, you'd better go and path out [20:08] Necos: no to what? [20:08] no dont use the command of no dont go in the kernel [20:09] laptop_mode is set to 0 in my file :( [20:10] Spity (n=Spity@190.192.237.182) joined ##slackware. [20:10] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Spity (n=Spity@190.192.237.182) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [20:11] to recompiling [20:11] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:12] so using the command would be safe ;) [20:12] Action: The-Croupier waves and goes to bed [20:13] Action: Necos points at The-Croupier [20:13] go to sleep [20:14] Action: silvergold hits The-Croupier over the head with a frying pan. [20:14] there, he's out. [20:15] the frying pan wasn't nearly excessive enough [20:15] what kind of violent ass are you? =p [20:15] frying pan violent [20:16] lol [20:16] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] haha [20:17] hey its not nice to hit a sleeping guy... what kind of ppl are you [20:17] Necos: how excessive should I have been? :) [20:17] and with a frying pan?! you watch too much tom&jerry [20:17] :D [20:17] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-191-231.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:17] Action: The-Croupier goes to sleep... with one eye open.. and the katana next to him [20:18] silvergold: lets see you coming with your frying pan now shall we [20:18] :p [20:18] goodnight guys [20:18] night ^_^ [20:18] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-191-231.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] Action: silvergold gets in his tank. :D [20:18] silvergold: next time, try an air conditioner [20:19] freeze him? [20:19] no, drop it on his head [20:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-15-202.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:20] good evening good people :-) [20:20] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:21] SQlvpapir: 'ey, another dane :-) [20:21] define $good. :P [20:21] well, gotta go to bed now, night :) [20:22] night C_Tux [20:22] BP{k}: good > decent > half decent > somewhat poor > poor > crappy > POS > "like microsoft" [20:22] y0 macavity [20:22] damn, macavity is still alive? [20:23] Necos: roumor has it that that is the case :P [20:23] i swear, good ninjas are so hard to find these days... [20:23] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) joined ##slackware. [20:24] macavity: yeah but I only use slackware when I cant be bothered to maintain embedded boxes ;-) [20:24] hey anyone heard of any cups probs lately... when i did my install a few weeks back i set up my printers with localhost:631... now i cant use it... keeps timing out and netstat is showing taht is is sending he syn and udp is open [20:26] 1. Is cups still running [20:26] 2. Have you recently played with firewall rules [20:26] make sure you don't have a firewall rule disabling access to it [20:27] nothings different [20:27] cups is up [20:28] akSeya (n=akSeya@189-95-105-54.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:29] never ever assume that nothing is different, many years of fault finding will change that attitude into "ok something is different what could it be" [20:29] lol [20:29] muzz2k (n=anthony@host86-153-190-95.range86-153.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] also, make sure you have access to / [20:29] muzz2k (n=anthony@host86-153-190-95.range86-153.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:30] SQlvpapir: oh well... just because you are a dane does, apparetnly not, vouch for your being a clever individual :P [20:30] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:30] you see what had happened was... [20:30] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:30] macavity: or, I only feel like crying a limited amount of my time ;-) [20:30] parallel://dev/lp0 or ipp://localhost:631 ? (maybe) local printer on parallel port? [20:31] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [20:31] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] SQlvpapir: each to their own.. i find slackware by far the fastest and esiest distro to maintain [20:32] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [20:32] Try to telnet to port 631 on localhost just for kicks. BTW, a tcp protocol listens here, not udp. [20:32] the printer worked 3 wks ago to look at it on localhost:631 [20:32] i cansee it in kde printers [20:32] but cant reach he cups interface [20:33] SQlvpapir: ok, i havent tried neither Puppy linux nor Source Mage... so i cant tell for sure if it is THE easiest :P [20:33] dbus & hal installed (those two evil things) ? [20:34] i dont seem to recall in any of the security updates that have come down that any c hanges were made to cups [20:34] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:34] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Try to telnet to port 631 on localhost just for kicks to see if a connection is made. BTW, a tcp protocol listens here, not udp. [20:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:37] akSeya (n=akSeya@189-95-105-54.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:38] nothing on telnet it just sits there.. and since there is no verbose mode i dont know what it is doing.. ping is == unknown host [20:38] Is the lo interface up? [20:39] evening [20:40] check also "lsof | grep cups | grep TCP" [20:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [20:42] in case your wondering you should get at least "TCP localhost:ipp (LISTEN)" in the output [20:42] lsof brings up nothing and lo is not in ifconfig, wicd has got to have some loopback [20:43] in that case cups is either not running or is not bound to a network device [20:43] ps aux shows root is running it [20:43] The lack of lo explains most (if not all) of your troubles with this. [20:43] htop shows it too [20:44] well with wicd you dont use any of the net config files [20:44] everything is in wicd [20:45] except for /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts [20:45] try "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1" then "/etc/rc.d/rc.cups restart" [20:46] bingo! [20:46] is lo going to stay up in future reboots [20:46] now the hard part is that [20:46] obviously its not starting somewhere... [20:46] wicd has no cnfig for it [20:46] lo is started from /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [20:47] It has nothing to do with wicd actually. [20:48] Perhaps wicd killed lo somehow. [20:48] (which is counter-productive). [20:49] no it didnt i -x that inetd file bc ive had conflicts in the past... wicd running everythig by itself makes all my connections happy [20:49] i could add a ling to c.locla [20:49] rc.local [20:50] have you tried editing /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and blanking out all the settings? [20:51] i see a whole section for lo in inet1 [20:51] that should stop it from bringing up anything other than lo [20:51] i can transfer that to rc.local too [20:51] note 2 diff files rc.inet1 and rc.inet1.conf [20:51] and lo needs to be up before you start just about anything else [20:52] unless you want to be back here later with something else that has stopped working for no reason [20:53] i start on boot with a cli login... then i startx [20:53] so wicd is runing but not running [20:53] hmmm actuall it is [20:53] bc ive done updates [20:54] ok ..... inet1 looks like it also adds a root [20:54] hitest (n=chatzill@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] route [20:55] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:55] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.199) left irc: "I'll Be Back!!" [20:57] can anyone recommend a good graphical diff app? [20:58] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:58] grekkos: try tkdiff [20:59] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-180.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:59] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:00] I just fucking LOVE returning to work at TWO BLOODY AM because of a power cut!! [21:00] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-191-231.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] WildWizard, ty for your help.. appreciate it...ive really had 0 issues in the scheme of things as far as slack is concerned [21:01] i added the loopback part f the inet1 file to the rc.wicd [21:01] so it will start on boot first thing [21:01] Zordrak: sorry, must have been my microwave [21:01] Nagios Tactical Overview :: 157 unhandled problems [21:03] grekkos: kdiff3? [21:04] i hate service dependencies [21:04] ahh forgot about that one since I don't have kde on my boxen [21:05] why cant ldap services be cool and just wait til ldap is available and then be like aw sweet.. it's up, i'll use it now [21:05] i hope pat packages up firefox 3.5 tonight [21:06] i just started compiling it :) [21:06] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [21:06] amazon10x: It's nice. :) [21:08] BP{k}: is there a way to tell it to open an existing diff? lol [21:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.94.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:10] jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [21:15] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.39.138) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:20] cherife (n=cherife@121.0.29.226) joined ##slackware. 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I can feel it [21:35] there has not even been an rc yet [21:35] Action: BP{k} laughs at campassi [21:36] :-D I didn't know an RC came first. hehe, bad feelings [21:36] there is usually at least 1 or 2 RCs [21:36] Action: nachox nods [21:37] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-32-177.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:37] hmm. I haven't done any configuring on this 12.2 machine, because i was thinking 13.0 would be out very soon. [21:38] 13 could be as laste as christmas [21:38] -current is a pretty safe at this point [21:39] nachox: /win 16 [21:39] uhm .. wtf :\ [21:39] campassi: as mesa-7.4.4 is in testing, i highly doubt it [21:39] or, 13 will ship with 7.4.1 [21:39] BP{k}, ?? [21:40] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:40] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:40] christmas, seriously? [21:40] nachox: Disregard. Keyboard weirdness :) [21:40] thrice`: it fixes some pretty annoying bugs for 945 users, so i hope not [21:40] if it's going to be that long, i'll settle on 12.2 then [21:40] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] BP{k}, oh, jeje [21:40] macavity: 7.4.1 had them? I know 7.4.3 sucked alot [21:41] campassi: it won't [21:41] thrice`: oh, right, they are listed as regressions [21:41] thrice`: anyhow, i can tell you in a minute :P [21:42] 7.4.2 had a couple, and 7.4.3 was worse ;) [21:42] lots of people are looking forward to 13, just dont hold your breath wating for it because you might turn blue [21:43] s/might/will/ :P [21:43] i would rather wait for it than see it released like some other distros that kick it out the door every 6 months no matter how many bugs it has [21:44] yeah, no rush. [21:44] may as well just run 12.2 with a new kernel. [21:44] ah, built a slackware pkg for firefox 3.5 today [21:45] i'm amazed at how much faster it is when compiled [21:45] thrice`: 7.4.4 gets the "stutter" out of glxgears, and i dont get the vblank error message in dmesg when i pull yakuake over a GL app [21:45] thrice`: eg, my two visible bugs just got fixed [21:45] eew, don't use glxgears :) [21:46] glxgears is supposed to look smooth... before it didnt [21:46] now i just have to test against .29 [21:47] .. which means broken composite.. but perhaps that gets fixed with recent mesa too [21:48] www.facebook.com [21:48] oops [21:48] failbook! [21:49] thrice`: you wouldn't! :P [21:49] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-62.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [21:49] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:51] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-138-162.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:27] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:27] joshyro: official slackware mirrors have the build scripts for everything that it installed. [22:29] Dominian: really, Now im in slacky repository, but the slackbuild has a file .diff.gz, could be a problem with compiling :S [22:29] since firefox is a binary repackage, last time i checked, you should be able to use the package from -current when it comes out [22:29] joshyro: is slacky.it an official mirror? [22:29] Dominian: whoops, thats rite :$ [22:30] TwinReverb: yah, but I cant run the .sh script in the .bz2 :( [22:31] you're better off writing your own slackbuild [22:31] then bunzip2 and gzip or change the script [22:31] it's not bloody rocket science [22:31] for firefox? definitely not [22:31] Urchlay: :$ [22:31] eh? oh, firefox? you're better off using Pat's then [22:31] (firefox = huge pain in arse) [22:31] firefox is a little complex from source [22:31] Freedom_Linux (n=julio@200.165.138.67) joined ##slackware. [22:32] i'm both surprised and not surprised that patrick doesn't build it from source (iirc) [22:32] Why should he? [22:32] TwinReverb, he can't if he wants to call it firefox [22:32] Have a look at 64-current [22:32] yes he can, if mozilla gives him permission [22:32] Have a look at 64-current :) [22:32] (slack64 does) [22:33] :O really... [22:33] thrice`, and they have not...at least not yet [22:33] Yes, they have. [22:33] disagree [22:33] I'm pretty sure PV has permission. [22:33] I'm *sure* :-) [22:33] imho, Mozilla would be stupid to have NOT given him permission :) [22:33] Is "I saw the email" enough? [22:33] no [22:33] rworkman, alright... [22:33] :P [22:33] Mozilla pulled permission from Debian. [22:33] :) [22:33] # Thanks to the folks at the Mozilla Foundation for permission to [22:34] # distribute this, and for all the great work! :-) [22:34] why did mozilla pull permission from debian? [22:34] TwinReverb: google: iceweasel [22:34] No comment. :) [22:34] eh, I think debian maybe never had permission, it's against their guidelines to even ask [22:34] debian doesn't find it free enough, I think [22:34] right [22:34] TwinReverb, all the patches and the name use without the logo. [22:34] well debian also wanted some of their custom patches to be incorporated into Firefox iirc [22:34] and Mozilla said "no" [22:35] 'cause debian's got AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS .... 8-) [22:35] ? [22:35] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.89.229) joined ##slackware. [22:35] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) left irc: Connection timed out [22:36] it's a family guy joke [22:36] "everybody's got AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS ...." [22:36] :$ Whoops... =) So, i going to keep mi mozilla version :$ [22:37] Freedom_Linux (n=julio@200.165.138.67) left ##slackware ("www.juliomelo.com"). [22:38] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.156.33) joined ##slackware. [22:41] TwinReverb, lol [22:42] So, in a few words :$? 'cause my english is not good.. =) [22:43] joshyro, you failed smiley school huh? [22:44] edman007: Whoops sorry, but im a Student yet :$ [22:44] lol [22:45] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-176.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:45] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-142.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:46] nagios questin cause noones answering in nagios and you guys have to sympathise that im still at bloody work at 3:47am :) [22:47] I have modified a primary timeperiod, but now i have a large amount of services scheduled for next check at 6am.. but according to the new timeperiod, they should start checking right now (3:43am) [22:47] how do i force an immediate rescheduling of ALL checks? [22:47] good question... I dunno [22:47] we don't "have to" sympathize but we ought to 8-) [22:47] :) [22:47] I think you can do it on a host by host basis [22:47] Zordrak: you can use the web interface. [22:47] yeah.. but i dont wanna do all 140-odd manually [22:47] agentc0re1: yeah, but I don't thin there is a way to force ALL Checks [22:47] Zordrak: oh wait [22:47] cant find a "rescheduleo all" [22:47] issue a service group check. [22:47] Zordrak: restart nagios service [22:47] i think.. [22:47] Dominian: did [22:48] that'll force a check or at least it should [22:48] agentc0re1: looking [22:48] been awaile since i looked at my nagios web ui. [22:48] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) joined ##slackware. [22:48] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-210.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:48] agentc0re1: hmm no options for a whole group [22:49] I'm almost certain ther was a way to do it from command line... [22:49] but its been a while [22:49] *nod* [22:50] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). 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When i click on Servicegroup Overview and then click on my (All-Service-Hosts) (it has to be the one in parentheses) i get options to turn on active checks which would probably force an active check. [22:58] Same thing for hostgroups. but it has to be the link in parentheses. [22:58] will taxe a look in just a mo... im about to run a funky german script for telling nagios to do it at the command line [22:59] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:59] rworkman, alienBOB ping [22:59] KILLER! [23:00] user2560 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] TwinReverb: icmp-admin-prohibited [23:00] thanks agentc0re1 but scripty scripty catchy monkey :D [23:00] rworkman, was it you that was talking about LUKS due to someone confiscating your laptop at a customs office? or was it someone else? [23:00] rworkman: ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted [23:01] Dominian, what's wrong? [23:01] nachox: eh? [23:02] "ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted" [23:02] agentc0re1: appreciated anyways :) [23:02] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] >.< [23:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [23:02] Action: Zordrak beats nachox with cluebat [23:03] Action: TwinReverb beats Zordrak with a football bat [23:03] TwinReverb: not me. [23:03] screwed up bats for screwed up people 8-P [23:03] Action: nachox looks at Zordrak [23:03] is the customs thing of confiscating laptops common? [23:03] I suspect you would read about me all over the internet if US Customs attempted to confiscate *anything* of mine. [23:03] I've never come across it. [23:04] nachox: haha [23:04] nachox: I was just being a dork [23:04] oh [23:04] rworkman, you can't carry a gun on a plane 8-P [23:04] nachox: that's an error you'll get if you use grsecurity and you have ping shut off to everyone :) [23:04] TwinReverb: that's why I fly as little as possible. [23:04] damn windows admins and their jokes... [23:04] haha [23:04] Action: TwinReverb hates the demonization of ping by GRC [23:05] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] TwinReverb: er. why? [23:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [23:05] You do realize that you can utilize ping to get yourself in trouble right? [23:05] Dominian, because my mom is thinking about going to africa [23:05] er.. huh? [23:05] Dominian, just remove rthe suid bit, you should get the same error after that [23:05] I think there are two separate question/answer sessions there, and they are *not* related. [23:06] nachox: agreed, however, its much "safer" to use grsecurity [23:06] or capset [23:06] nachox: See, eve if someone were to get ... "root" on my box... good luck :) [23:06] can't do jack even as root [23:06] Oh you can login.. but to do anything "destructive" you have to auth to the admin role of grsecurity [23:06] Dominian, he can change your kernel being root... he can even disable grsec as root [23:07] nachox: If he has the password to disable it [23:07] :) [23:07] i havent played with grsec roles, do you have a tutorial? [23:07] root has its own password in /etc/passwd.. grsecurity's "disable" password differs from that and the password for the admin role is yet again different [23:07] nachox: "documentation" on their site and their forums.. that's about it [23:07] no tutorial on it [23:08] HA! [23:08] If I wrote a tutorial for grsecurity... I'd die because my brain would melt.. I still haven't quite wrapped my head around all of it [23:08] TwinReverb: SoutheastLinuxFest was great in that regard. At the VIP dinner (for the speakers), several of us were talking, and... there were at *least* three people carrying. [23:08] Mail server load average is 687!!! [23:08] Zordrak: dude [23:08] Dominian, where does it store that information? the password information and role information i mean [23:08] Zordrak: wtf are you a spammer!? hehe [23:08] I didn't have the largest caliber, but I was the only person with spare ammo. :) [23:08] nachox: in /etc however, when grsecurity "loads" it "hides" directories from the system. [23:09] rworkman, cows with guns? :) [23:09] Dominian: thats what happens when some idiot sets home dirs on NFS.. and then you take nfs away [23:09] Dominian: is mount(8) protected? [23:09] rworkman: it's not how big it is it's how you use it lol [23:09] rworkman: yes [23:09] Action: Zordrak reboots mail server [23:09] let me try something [23:09] rworkman, lol 8-) [23:09] i don't mind carrying 8-) [23:10] WildWizard1: Indeed. .38sp isn't my *first* choice, but +P+ rounds help, and I'm pretty accurate :) [23:10] rworkman: looks like mount for root still works, but thats an easy fix with subject roles in the policy [23:10] nachox: I don't think any cows had guns, but I didn't ask. Women don't like to be called that, and I couldn't take the chance that they might. ;-) [23:10] However, you can't restrict mount TOO much especially if you have grsecurity being enabled during system startup [23:11] hahaha [23:11] Dominian: well, then I can just mount a new filesystem over your / and do what I want :) [23:11] However, you CAN create user roles to restrict certain commands [23:11] rworkman: negative [23:11] grsecurity will stop that in its tracks [23:11] :) [23:11] Good :) [23:11] it doesn't allow "stupid" shit basically [23:12] if I wanted to be a dick.. I could install PaX and lock binaries themselves down [23:12] and the install lids and break it down to specific files if I wanted to :) [23:12] think of LIDS as iptables for your file system [23:12] Seems like overkill to me, but then, all my shell users are trusted. :) [23:13] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:b9) left irc: No route to host [23:13] rworkman: Overkill or not.. mantis bug tracker had a bug... shit got uploaded to /tmp... I wasn't takin gchances after i got it fixed [23:13] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:15f) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Dominian, hmm it looks like the grsec roles are a simplified version of what you can do with selinux [23:13] yeah.. i hate selinux [23:14] but you're right [23:14] SELinux is complicated imho [23:14] Dominian, meaning you cannot add privileges with roles, you just take them away [23:14] correct [23:14] well.. you can lock down everything in the Default role if you wish [23:14] and THEN give privs [23:14] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:15] in fact for ssh to work.. you HAVE to give it CAP_NET_ADMIN and a few other things [23:15] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [23:15] If you're using the default policy that is [23:15] yes, but you cannot give a regular user the privilege to just mount without using other things like sudo [23:15] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:15] correct [23:15] and why would you ;) [23:15] however, grsec roles are an interesting features [23:15] Action: Dominian nods [23:16] They are powerful.. they even have nested subjects [23:16] it is unfortunate that grsec was never accepted into the kernel [23:16] like I said.. what I do is pretty basic with grsecurity [23:16] nachox: yeah but they stay pretty well up-to-date with their patches [23:17] Dominian, back in the days i used grsec, i also patched my kernel with vservers [23:17] vservers? [23:17] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [23:17] Action: Dominian googles [23:17] yep, they are like freebsd jails or solaris' zones but a little less powerful [23:17] ah [23:17] yeah ti appears they are labeled as "VPS' inside the userspace [23:17] interesting [23:18] hrm too bad its way out of date... [23:18] 2.6.22.19 [23:18] ouch [23:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igtQju1aw0M&feature=related rob you might get a laugh out of this [23:23] Wow. Only 2.5hrs from restoratin of power to restoration of 100% network status [23:23] Dominian, in any case, the linux kernel implemented cgroups to do some of what you can do in 2.6.24 which is interesting [23:23] blech [23:24] i think i missed a few words there [23:24] yah.. [23:24] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] i have a couple of spare words if you want them :P [23:24] well grsecurity is how I found the site with the security flaw in it. [23:25] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [23:25] add "in vservers" after "do" [23:25] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-156-14.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:26] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-159-89.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:26] novacrust (n=Crust@24.215.52.17) left irc: No route to host [23:26] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lxc-security/ [23:27] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] tltstc (n=tltstc@vpn-scm.mscsoftware.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [23:29] kevin01123 (n=kevin@adsl-76-237-70-150.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] Beta2K (n=beta@d24-36-78-223.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [23:29] Does anyone know where in the kernel you enable Fn key support for your laptop display? [23:29] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] Linux_Is_Skynet (n=quassel@cpe-76-177-144-25.natcky.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:30] Nick change: hiptobecubic^ -> hiptobecubic [23:31] kevin01123, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work [23:32] darmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:32] kevin01123, you don't. [23:32] Is there a way to run the commands in /etc/modprobe.d without restarting? [23:32] It's generally a different set of scancodes. [23:32] :( i just killed a VM...now i got to do a reinstall :( [23:32] snowdonkey, which commands? [23:33] ccfreak2k: Specifically I have "options snd_hda_intel index=1" in the file sound, which I want to be able to comment out and uncomment. [23:33] Action: TwinReverb is now known as IcedWeasel [23:33] user2560 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:33] ccfeak2k: On the stock Slackware kernel, the Fn key works on my display brightness. On my 2.6.28, it doesn't. [23:34] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:34] i go good with tea [23:34] That command sets and unsets my default audio device from onboard audio to soundcard. [23:34] hmm is there a way to access terminal from web or a service like that? a ssl/ssh but via proxy [23:34] ccfreak2k: For everything but skype i want it commented out, but it's a pain to restart my computer every time I wanna use skype [23:35] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.152.59.16) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:35] snowdonkey, you could use modprobe and specify it as an option, I think. [23:35] ccfreak2k: Ah, that WOULD make sense. [23:35] kevin01123, please review your configuration. by the way, what brand computer do you have? [23:35] ccfreak2k: thx, I'll give that a try. [23:36] the Fn keys are usually specific to the laptop in my experience, and support is patchy [23:36] ... unless you have an Asus :P [23:37] The brightness adjust worked fine on my Dell and works on my Averatec, so I take it for granted. [23:38] i had to add some config to get mine on my sony vaio working, but it works nonetheless [23:38] kevin01123 (n=kevin@adsl-76-237-70-150.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [23:38] my ancient toshiba satellite does not have Fn key support at all so oh well [23:38] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] i'm happy i got ssh working on my laptops though, i can copy files using that (since the wireless is not secured, i use ssh for security reasons) [23:38] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:39] 8-( kevin! [23:39] well at least having an ancient laptop has its perks when i want to let someone try out Linux [23:40] Linux_Is_Skynet (n=quassel@cpe-76-177-144-25.natcky.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:40] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:42] anyone happen to know of a way i can both suspend the computer and lock the Xorg system at the same time? [23:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] with a script that locks X and then suspends the system? [23:52] TwinReverb: xfce4-power-manager handles this, as does kde's powerdevil [23:52] On 12.2, it won't be a trivial endeavor, unless you have xfce-4.6.x and xfce4-power-manager installed (hint: both are in my repo) :) [23:54] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.156.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [23:54] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.89.229) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:55] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.23.192) joined ##slackware. [23:57] rworkman, you can just write a script that does `xlock ; my-suspend-script.sh` and call it lock&suspend? [23:58] and ff3.5 is a lot better under high IO than 3.0 was [23:59] any idea how to extract an .exe ? tried unzip -a, cabextract, and 7z e [00:00] --- Wed Jul 1 2009