[00:00] stealth-: /etc/inittab [00:00] or /etc/securetty [00:00] BP{k}: thanks [00:00] k [00:00] lee555J5: Heh. Yeah that's when I learn the most. Being self-taught I make mistakes....occasionally:) [00:01] wdyy (n=kvirc@123.80.26.152) joined ##slackware. [00:01] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:01] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) joined ##slackware. [00:02] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "gtg" [00:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:03] Hmm, pidgin fonts are still weird. [00:04] FF looks better though. [00:04] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:04] I wonder what slackware is like on System390 [00:04] pcmanfm fonts are, eh, about the same as pidgins. [00:04] Probably naked woman everywhere. [00:05] wdyy (n=kvirc@123.80.26.152) left irc: Client Quit [00:06] This is pidgin: http://imagebin.org/50900 [00:06] They used to be really nice and smooth, yet clear and crisp. In other words, perfect, for me anyway. [00:07] firebird619: 1) use screen + irssi for irc ;) [00:08] byteframe: would you rather have debian on system390 ? [00:08] byteframe: slackware makes a great server ... system390 is usually used as a server [00:09] yeah, I used that for a while, then switched to pidgin. I think I'll go check irssi right now. I didn't leave it for any reason. Even if I switch, I still want to figure out what happened to pidgin. [00:09] BP{k}: ^^ [00:09] BP{k}: Did you see the ss, see what I mean, they're messed up now. [00:09] yeah, that's fucked :) [00:09] haha [00:10] hm is pidgin the only one that's fucked? [00:10] brb, gonna switch to irssi. :P [00:11] might check your .gtkc-2.0 to see if that is okay. [00:11] BP{k}: that and my file manager, pcmanfm, as is thunar. [00:12] Ah, good point, before I fixed the permissions, I had tried fixing pidgin and specified a font in gtkrc-2.0 :O, that could be it. [00:14] BP{k}: If I remove that line from gtkrc-2.0, do I just log out and back in for changes to take affect? [00:16] speaking about irc clients. Is there any one with decent vi key bindings? [00:16] polatov (n=polatov@95.58.13.189) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:17] vi key bindings like what? :q to quit ? [00:20] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:20] firebird619: hmm I think so. personaly i always use gtk-chtheme to change stuff. much easier. [00:22] No, more like bash support for vi, where you can edit the line you are writing with vi key bindings. The only thing it takes is an irc client that support readline lib I guess [00:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:29] BP{k}: heh, I have that installed, but always forget it's there. :P [00:31] brb [00:31] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:33] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:33] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:34] k-milogars (n=k-miloga@190.27.47.236) joined ##slackware. [00:34] k-milogars (n=k-miloga@190.27.47.236) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [00:35] BP{k}: gtk-chtheme seg faults. :P [00:37] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-178-11.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Heya,folks....How's everyone? [00:37] doing good MLanden, you? [00:37] firebird619: is this 12.2? [00:37] yeah [00:38] Not too bad,firebird619 Thanks [00:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [00:40] firebird619: try font's part of this tips page,also unicode part http://vcn.bc.ca/~dugan/setting-up-slackware.html [00:41] Rat409: ok, thanks. [00:41] works fine for 12.2 [00:41] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [00:44] avenger (n=avenger@189.100.127.77) left irc: "leaving" [00:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:51] cmk_zzz: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=193 for bash,zsh [00:51] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "what a wonderful life you have" [00:55] souphead (n=souphead@222.127.178.14) joined ##slackware. [01:02] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:03] paradello (n=PiAnO@201-69-33-197.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: "The 7 Deadly Sins: O absorvente da mulher ativa.   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [01:03] Rat409: Does that section for .bashrc good for zshrc as well? I'll try it, but just thought I'd ask. [01:08] beatzz (n=beatzz@71-221-212-20.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.254.250.70) left irc: "yawn" [01:12] hosl (n=UNIX@200-96-2-238.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:13] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.174.104) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:14] can't verify as i don't use zsh but other articles reference that one [01:14] k, well I'll try it and see. :) [01:15] I got the unicode part done, working on the font part now. [01:16] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:16] you'll want to source .bash_profile assuming the profile sources bashrc [01:17] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:18] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [01:18] Rename 10-user.conf to 10-user.conf and 51-local.conf to 11-local.conf. rename 10-user.conf to 10-user.conf? What did you rename it to? [01:22] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5b3fefde94dfe38a) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:22] just .bak probly i forget [01:22] hosl (n=UNIX@200-96-2-238.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [01:22] k, thanks [01:22] beatzz (n=beatzz@71-221-212-20.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "peace" [01:24] |ast| (n=lilo78@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [01:26] i do this in .bash_profile to source .bashrc so i can use dircolors etc [01:26] http://pastebin.ca/1440660 [01:26] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] for the bash part [01:27] ok, thank you. [01:28] at the top then add aliases etc after it. [01:29] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:30] oh hai [01:30] Hey frullet_, how's it going? [01:30] frullet_: I believe you mean: "oh haì" [01:30] yeh good, yourself [01:30] lol [01:30] I needed a reason to test out my unicode input. [01:31] frullet_: doing alright, thanks. [01:31] I get ?? in the input area, but the letter shows up correctly in the chat.. [01:31] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:32] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [01:34] Nick change: nheco_ -> nheco [01:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] does slackware use usplash or something else? [01:37] if irssi could be theme or wwhatever xterm you use or something else even [01:37] wow wicked lag [01:37] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:37] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] stealth-: By default, slackware doesn't use anything like that. [01:37] Rat409: wb [01:38] thanks,my dsl/isp is a pita sometimes [01:38] firebird619: how does it get the image at the top then? [01:38] Rat409: I know what you mean. [01:38] stealth-: kernel. [01:38] BP{k}: oh. [01:39] theres no reason usplash wouldnt work, right? Im considering getting a nicer looking boot up. [01:40] nm, found answer in google :) [01:40] thanks guys [01:42] sounds like a pain .. just don't reboot :P [01:44] heh, its a laptop. And I got nothing better to do right now, anyways. [01:45] stealth-: What make and model? [01:45] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:46] MLanden: dell latitude C600 [01:46] its old, but gets the job done [01:47] stealth-: hear ya, that's what's important...:D [01:48] sopas (n=souphead@112.198.134.180) joined ##slackware. [01:50] And a plus side,stealth-...it's amazing on discovering what can be done on the C-series [01:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [02:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Rat409: pidgin fonts are still eh. but other fonts look nice. [02:01] souphead (n=souphead@222.127.178.14) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:06] hmm maybe after closeing/restarting pidgin look better next time [02:06] did already. :P [02:06] you use that setup on that link? you have a ss of it? [02:07] the dugan chan one yuh [02:07] i rarely use pidgin tho [02:08] have an ss of anything showing the fonts? [02:08] sure lemme look [02:08] Hey firebird619 :) how are things going? [02:08] lf4: hey, going good, thanks. you? [02:12] firebird619: Things are going alright lol just started work. :P [02:12] cool [02:12] :) [02:13] firebird619: http://omploader.org/vMXI0OQ [02:14] whoa, that looks alot nicer than mine. [02:14] hmm second slackbuild today having problems finding pixman. :( [02:14] y0 chopp [02:14] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:14] hey firebird619 how goes it? [02:14] Ugh, I'm still having that /tmp issue and stuff not starting. :( [02:14] chopp: going alright, thanks. you? [02:15] firebird619: well I was attacked by a couple of dogs at a park today..can you top that one. :P [02:16] nope. you alright? [02:16] nothing that a few stitches wouldn't fix, but I can't say the same for the dogs. [02:17] they weren't chihuahua's were they? :P [02:17] haha no unless the were fed somekind of super growth hormone. [02:18] haha [02:18] Rat409: looks good. [02:19] thanks,i was bored one night [02:19] which terminal is that? [02:19] urxvt [02:20] or rxvt-unicode [02:21] very customizeable and can run it as daemon and multiple clients i instance of memory. very nice [02:21] i/1 [02:21] lol, fortune In Minnesota they ask why all football fields in Iowa have artificial turf. It's so the cheerleaders won't graze during the game. Note: I'm in Minnesota. [02:22] haha [02:22] ivan8013 (n=ivan@197.102.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [02:22] lol [02:22] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:22] I've never asked that, but now I know the answer. :P [02:23] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.224.8.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [02:23] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:23] frullet (n=hooch@124.168.187.163) joined ##slackware. [02:23] Ugh, I can't even start ktorrent thanks to /tmp. which I just cleared out btw. something's wrong. [02:23] wb frullet [02:23] Rat409: whats used for the anscii Slackware? [02:23] beatzz (n=beatzz@71-221-212-20.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] o/ [02:24] umm borrowed from linux_logo and a themeinfo script floating around ubu/archlinux forums i cat one && run the 2nd [02:24] so I have been googlin and googlin and cant find a reason my laptop wont connect to a wireless network with encryption on it, WEP, WPA/2 but when the network is unsecured I can connect just fine. [02:25] the theme script suppts deb/ubu/arch so i edited it for slack [02:25] Rat409: allright thanks. [02:25] if anyone wants it i can tar it up and upload to a file host [02:25] anyone ever encounter this problem before that might offer some advice? [02:26] Rat409: sure that would be cool. [02:26] k be a minute [02:26] ok [02:27] firebird619: do you think I could be charged, even though I was defending myself from those dogs? [02:27] I wouldn't think so if it was self defense. [02:28] I don't think so either, I'm just really freaked out over the whole thing. [02:28] FireBird Law --- Criminal trial lawyer. :P [02:28] haha [02:28] FBird Law for short. :P [02:30] chopp: If I lose the case, I won't charge ya. :P [02:30] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:30] hell of a deal at twice the price. [02:31] chopp: Were the owner of the dogs present? [02:31] :) [02:31] MLanden: yes they were. [02:31] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:32] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.22.133) joined ##slackware. [02:32] did you speak with them? [02:33] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:33] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:33] BOOOOOO [02:34] payday!!! [02:34] firebird619: yes I did, but they weren't very happy. Let me also say that I'm an dog lover who owned rottweillers for years. [02:34] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:34] but I HAD to defend myself. They meant business. [02:34] chopp: http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag3cghf/n/slackinfo-files_tar_gz [02:34] nix_chix0r: hey, how are you? [02:34] i use a ~/bin and put all 3 files there [02:34] Rat409: awsome thanks. :) [02:34] so I have been googlin and googlin and cant find a reason my laptop wont connect to a wireless network with encryption on it, WEP, WPA/2 but when the network is unsecured I can connect just fine. anyone ever encounter this problem before that might offer some advice? [02:35] chopp: yeah. they seem like they'd press charges or anything? [02:35] its in my $patch [02:35] path darn fingers [02:35] Rat409: allright [02:35] yup [02:35] good [02:35] 1600bucks richer heh [02:35] i love work [02:35] firebird619, how are you [02:36] nix_chix0r: doing great, thanks. [02:36] wow 1600 bucks. Where's those hungry man dinners? :P [02:36] hehehe [02:36] nix_chix0r: thats a lot of pampers :P [02:36] yeah it is [02:36] Hakudoshi (i=supergea@97-118-14-37.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] beatzz, card chip? [02:37] nix_chix0r: wha...you thought I'd forget? :P [02:37] Motoko-chan, b43 broadcom [02:37] firebird619, nope [02:37] b43 is just plain weird. [02:37] Rat409: that's also gkrellm right? [02:37] yes [02:37] cool. very nice. [02:37] slKIvs (n=ivan@197.102.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:38] pekwm,bmpanel,gkrellm,urxvt wallpaper [02:39] thanks i clean,functional and usually gray or dark themes [02:39] firebird619: they didn't mention pressing charges, but if the cops hadn't shown up, the owner and I were seconds from getting into it. [02:39] gnome-slack-build,xfce and several wm's [02:40] i like clean duh darn typos,either slam keybd or type to fast,light [02:40] good evening everyone [02:41] Evenin',slackmagic [02:41] evening or morning actually here [02:41] superGear (i=supergea@71-212-186-234.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:42] beatzz (n=beatzz@71-221-212-20.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "peace" [02:42] Rat409: I have pekwm installed, but haven't tried it. It doesn't show up in kdm and I haven't try adding it. [02:42] thanhbe (n=thanhbe@58.187.131.45) joined ##slackware. [02:42] chopp: oh my, that wouldn't have been good. [02:42] i use startx but can paste a pekwm.desktop i think lemme look [02:42] Hey slackmagic [02:43] just got back from the casino, another successful trip, won 1300 bucks :D [02:43] Action: frullet is in need of a heater [02:43] Rat409: works great, thanks again. [02:43] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.27) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:43] slackmagic: Whoa, good for you. [02:44] slackmagic: beers on you? [02:44] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-32-127.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] Sweet, between nix_chix0r's 1600 and now slackmagic's 1300, we could have a heck of a good time. :P [02:44] wb superGear [02:44] slackmagic, blackjack? [02:45] nix_chix0r: blackjack and baccarat [02:45] frullet: :) [02:45] sweet [02:50] thanhbe (n=thanhbe@58.187.131.45) left irc: "Leaving" [02:50] Sesshomaru (i=supergea@97-118-61-115.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [02:51] go to sleep you minnesotians [02:51] NO, NEVER. :P [02:51] zowtar (n=pain@189.59.82.202.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:53] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] Sorry to hear of your ordeal,chopp...wish you the best of luck [02:53] Hi redtricycle [02:53] zowtar (n=pain@189.59.82.202.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [02:55] MLanden: hey thanks. Hopefully I don't need it. :P [02:55] hopefully [02:56] firebird619: guess not just copy the fluxbox.desktop then edit it to use pekwm [02:57] chopp: you're very welcome :) [02:57] :) [02:57] Rat409: ok, thanks. [02:58] can add it to /usr/share/xsessions [03:00] Hakudoshi (i=supergea@97-118-14-37.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [03:01] Hakudoshi (i=supergea@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] im using slapt-get to upgrade my system. But it complains that it cant find a file by running the command: upgradepkg --reinstall /var/slapt-get/ ./slackware/ap/a2ps-blahblah.txz however I can verify that the file is there. If I try to run the command manually, it tries both the given arguements as two separate locations and reports that niether of them can be found. If I add the links together, so its /var/slapt-get/slackware/ap/a2ps-blahblah [03:04] vvoody (n=vvoody@116.225.12.173) joined ##slackware. [03:04] vvoody (n=vvoody@116.225.12.173) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6.2"). [03:05] any advice? [03:06] try upgradepkg /path/to/file? [03:07] oh you have the new .txz [03:08] yeah [03:08] can upgradepkg handle those? [03:10] hmm depends on your install i believe,if 12.2 not sure current probly. try reading the info at slackware.com [03:11] k, thanks [03:11] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-32-127.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Network is unreachable [03:14] oh, I found the issue [03:14] I had my mirror set to install from current [03:15] I had thought that current just meant up-to-date, but apparently not. Just a mirror change and its fixed. [03:15] hi, i have a slackware running in a virtual box. the network is configured as nat, it works on a windows xp machine. the ip configuration is correct, but i cant establish a connection to the network - any ideas? [03:16] mkeil: have you tried running the dhclient? [03:16] i dont use dhcp in my network [03:16] ah [03:16] :) [03:17] Sesshomaru (i=supergea@97-118-61-115.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:17] ah.. wait [03:17] mkeil: edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf accordingly.. [03:18] mkeil: and make sure your gateway is present in /etc/resolv.conf [03:19] ok, its another problem. wenn i use dclient it works, i can reach hosts in the internet, but not in my local network [03:19] PHughes (n=Stazer@cpe-72-229-8-124.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:21] take care,folks...talk with everyone later [03:22] why? 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[03:42] my nose is running and i'm not fast enough [03:43] i've never had allergies in my life [03:46] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:50] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.224.8.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [03:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426562.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:58] evo- (n=evo@91-67-161-20-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [04:03] PHughes (n=Stazer@cpe-72-229-8-124.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [04:04] zlinux_ (n=zlinux@79.172.183.61) left irc: Success [04:05] zlinux_ (n=zlinux@79.172.186.47) joined ##slackware. [04:12] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:15] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:17] :) [04:17] o/ [04:17] hey frullet :) [04:18] whats up [04:19] 3-days week-end :) [04:19] :D [04:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:19] i have one of them next weekend for the queens birthday, i want it now >_> [04:20] last week, I basically had ten days free, now three days, and before I also had free days :) [04:20] in France, in May, you have several non-worked days :) [04:20] Action: frullet moves to france [04:21] I think this year May will be like 50-50 : 15 days worked, 15 days free :) [04:22] actually, more than 15 days free ;p [04:23] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] velu (n=velusip@65.38.42.9) left irc: [04:25] must go pick up the missus, be back later [04:26] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:26] see you :) [04:27] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [04:27] hey [04:27] hi compl3x :) [04:28] hey Camarade_Tux im on my eeepc [= [04:28] but I can't do the kernel configure this week-end =/ [04:28] (well, maybe I could actually) [04:29] but at least I have some^Wlots of free time next week :) [04:29] :P im not too bothered about it - im focusing on power saving atmm [04:30] how long do you get ? I've been quite annoyed not to check that because the eee has a 5H30 battery life now and I don't know if I improved it =/ [04:31] Camarade_Tux: i haven't done any tests yet but it drops quite fast [04:31] Camarade_Tux: alienBOB may have more info for you - he uses his more than I do [04:31] compl3x, how long does ? [04:31] s/does // [04:31] ^ [04:32] eviljames, // because it's faster ;p [04:32] compl3x, conky is nice to monitor battery life ;) [04:32] Camarade_Tux: im using kde4 atm - despite me *hating* it im getting used to it [04:32] and that has a battery monitor [04:33] openbox without panels or tray is better, it saves a lot of pixels ;) [04:33] that's bare openbox actually [04:34] Camarade_Tux: whos eeepc where you working on? [04:35] a friend at school, that's why I usually see him during the week ;) [04:36] Camarade_Tux: he know much about linux? [04:37] hard to define but he's far from being a complete noob (uses xterm, vim [as a beginner but still]...) [04:37] but he has no internet anymore because his neighbour left :D [04:37] so he knows abit - nice [04:39] he started using slackware several years ago (but nearly stopped using computers for two years since) [04:39] why he stop? [04:39] too much work because of studies [04:39] wow [04:40] haha, next week I'll be working only 3 days :) [04:40] nooice [04:40] compl3x, that's usual for this type of studies [04:41] compl3x, and just before you joined, I was saying I would have had more than 15 non worked days in May :) [04:41] Samy1 (i=Argus18@92.85.218.71) joined ##slackware. [04:41] :P [04:41] true slacker >< [04:43] anyway i gotta run [04:43] laters Camarade_Tux [04:43] ok, see you later :) [04:43] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [04:53] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:56] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [05:11] Samy1 (i=Argus18@92.85.218.71) left irc: [05:15] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.13.112) joined ##slackware. [05:16] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [05:21] greetings slackers ;) [05:21] hi [05:21] hi [05:21] hi [05:21] ehllo. [05:23] so am still stuck with the module prob and m too lazy to recompile the kernel [05:24] does anyone running slackware in a virtualbox? [05:24] any probs? [05:26] yeah, with the network. i think i have to route, i cant establish a connection to my local network. there are two different networks.. [05:26] class A in the vm and a normal class C network :) [05:27] evo- (n=evo@91-67-161-20-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [05:27] bryanlharris (n=bharris@66-190-66-200.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:28] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [05:28] hi guys [05:28] hi [05:30] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [05:33] godattach (n=user@unaffiliated/godattach) joined ##slackware. [05:35] kama (n=kama@87.19.118.89) joined ##slackware. [05:36] is there anyplace to download the 64bit dvd image as of yet? [05:36] or do I have to make it myself for now? [05:37] there is an image on linuxtorrents afaik [05:37] or slackware.no :) [05:37] oh [05:38] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/slackware64-current-26_May_2009-DVD.iso [05:38] wow thanks [05:38] oh heh I had just tracked it down [05:40] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:41] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [05:44] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:49] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "leaving" [05:49] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:52] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.13.112) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:56] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.13.23) joined ##slackware. [05:57] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:00] rockyrock (n=rockyroc@95.140.105.3) joined ##slackware. [06:01] hi guys, I want to download Slackware 12.2 from here: http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ but I don't know what to download! there are two file types asc and md5 [06:01] I thought I was going to download iso files [06:02] there's no iso on that server [06:02] how to download Slackware then? [06:02] I'm confused :( [06:02] pick another mirror maybe? [06:03] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:03] sounds like a reasonable choice [06:03] http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/slackware-12.2-install-dvd.iso [06:04] still confused? [06:04] is it one DVD only? [06:05] Shuren (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:06] yes [06:06] thnx [06:06] np [06:07] rockyrock (n=rockyroc@95.140.105.3) left ##slackware. [06:07] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[07:02] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A77B65.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:02] greetings [07:02] oh hai [07:03] SpacePlod: I'm back, are you available for a Q? [07:03] I preordered slack 13 yesterday ^-^ [07:03] and a t-shirt [07:05] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:06] I see everybody is stunned [07:08] or busy coding :) [07:08] hi slackytude :) [07:08] y0 Camarade_Tux [07:09] you coding on your browser? [07:10] no, not yet, I'm still on the bindings part, I need to make webkit-gtk available to ocaml programs (I'm currently rewriting it but I hope to have it done by the end of the week-end) [07:10] ArchSlackBSDraco (n=Draco@121.70.215.28) joined ##slackware. [07:13] that doesnt sond fun [07:16] it's ok and that should make the code much better, I'm translating function/types/variable names between c, gtk, python and ocaml and that is really error-prone, but now I'm making something specialized for this :) [07:17] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] ouch [07:19] camlcase <-> lowercase with underscores <-> hyphens <-> uppercase with underscores :) [07:20] and I also have to translate the C/GTK idioms into Ocaml/lablgtk idioms :p [07:21] write a parser [07:21] ArchSlackBSDraco (n=Draco@121.70.215.28) left irc: Client Quit [07:22] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:23] using a parser was my first approach but I wouldn't get all the infos I needed, now I'm using gobject-introspection and that's where the python parts come [07:23] http://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection [07:23] badhaircut (i=badhairc@gateway/tor/x-9e472dd8d7f7a8df) joined ##slackware. [07:23] badhaircut (i=badhairc@gateway/tor/x-9e472dd8d7f7a8df) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:23] the really bad part is that it makes an undocumented xml file and ten times I thought I had implemented support for everything, ten times I found out something was still missing [07:24] BUT now, it may be ok :) [07:24] heh [07:25] evo- (n=evo@91-67-161-20-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [07:25] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.254.250.70) joined ##slackware. [07:31] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [07:32] hi. internet connection keeps dropping if i idle too much. i am using dhclient to connect. is there another program included in slackware which can keep a persistent connection? [07:32] eh [07:33] there is dhcpcd, but this is not a problem with dhclient [07:33] you connected via a router? [07:33] yes [07:34] a dlink di-524 [07:34] then check your router settings [07:34] uh,dlink [07:34] slackytude: what do i check for? [07:34] well, automatic disconnect [07:35] or you could write a small script that fetches a website every five minutes or something [07:35] ok. i understand. thanks for the tip :) [07:35] no sweat. ideally, you want a better router :P [07:36] yes, i have heard a lot of bad things about the dlinks [07:36] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:36] Action: slackytude nods [07:37] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [07:37] y0 compl3x [07:37] sup slackytude [07:38] Action: compl3x has been getting a tan out in the garden [07:38] nifty [07:38] I was gutted - took my eeepc out there to watch some mythbusters and for some reason kde plunked out and said couldn't access analogue audio or something [07:38] Worked before - the second i need it it buggers up:p [07:39] heh [07:39] Im sitting on the balkony [07:39] weathers amazing here recently (UK) [07:40] compl3x, you mean it's only cloudy ? :D [07:40] Listening to a bit of newton faulkner and having a smoke - couldn't get better [07:40] Camarade_Tux: haha not a cloud in the sky for once [07:40] we get some cloudes, but mostly sunny [07:40] hmmm, what are you smoking ? =P [07:40] slackytude: all the time? [07:40] since yesterday [07:40] Camarade_Tux: no weed today - just tobacco [07:41] compl3x, so you mean it's really sunny in the UK ? :o [07:41] Camarade_Tux: yeah where I am - south west.. properly sunny [07:41] repent. the end is near [07:41] slackytude: haha [07:43] Action: compl3x thinks its about time he gave kde4 a chance [07:43] Action: compl3x is now in kde4 :/ [07:43] evo- (n=evo@91-67-161-20-dynip.superkabel.de) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [07:50] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [07:50] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.244.193.178) joined ##slackware. [07:52] josteint1 (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [07:52] connection dropped ? :D [07:53] ? [07:53] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [07:54] for josteint* ;) [07:54] ah [07:54] he was complaining about his connection a minute before you joined [07:55] haha oh right [07:55] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [07:56] :( DOCSIS 3.0 modems are $$$ [07:58] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] do any of you ever get those brain blanks where you go to open a terminal and totally forgot what you was doing with the terminal? [07:58] sure [07:59] compl3x: all the time ;) [07:59] but Im getting old anyway [07:59] gna thats annoying [07:59] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] Action: slackytude waves his walking stick [07:59] get of my lawn [07:59] :p [07:59] bojevnik (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [08:00] sure, it happens, usually I solve that by typing "fortune" ;p [08:00] Action: compl3x remembers what he was doing! [08:00] man [08:01] woman [08:01] cd /mnt/hidden_partition/ && mplayer Goat_secx.avi ? [08:01] I have no chance to pass Robot Simulation [08:01] I should just give up [08:01] slackytude, why ? [08:01] I have no clue [08:02] I should have visited the lecture [08:04] only 40 days left [08:05] fred (n=fred@phoenix.slamd64.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:06] that leaves you some time [08:06] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [08:06] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) joined ##slackware. [08:08] hmmm, imagine 1 billion people weren't buying windows licenses, that would give them 80 billion euros which could buy more than 40 billion litters of good beer ! [08:08] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:08] losia (n=root@116.68.100.29) joined ##slackware. [08:09] Lurq (n=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:09] hey, did any one had problems wiith ide/ata controllers with 2.6.29.4 ,,, i'm messed up here ! [08:12] to solve the issue i made an initrd makeing my known drivers for ide/ata as modules even though initrd can see my block devices hdb1,hdb2 etc the boot message say mount faild /dev/hdb6 to /mnt no such device, [08:14] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.168.102) joined ##slackware. [08:14] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:16] KyNDeR (n=kynder@187.4.120.251) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:17] cathectic (n=cathecti@slamd64/cathectic) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) [08:18] lvm? [08:19] Pig_Pen, no ... [08:19] its just an ext3 root [08:19] funny part is it shows up in /dev/hdb* [08:19] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:20] and my ext3 is build into kernel [08:21] where is your root==/dev/XXXx pointing too... that is usually sda1 [08:21] device drivers > multiples devices driver support (RAID & LVM) > Device Mapper Support (make sure device mapper support is selected) losia [08:22] Pig_Pen, i have no RAID / LVM [08:22] its just a partition [08:22] you need that [08:22] VampirePenguin, its not a sata device [08:22] losia, adjust it accordingly its just an example [08:23] but its usually 1 [08:23] not 6 [08:23] but my old slackware custom build never need that !! any way u mean i need to enable for the sake of initrd [08:23] Pig_Pen, [08:23] polatov (n=polatov@95.58.13.189) joined ##slackware. [08:23] you need that Device Mapper Support!!! [08:24] losia, why dont u paster ur lilo/grub conf file [08:24] not the raid stuff but that device mapper support [08:24] ok Pig_Pen ,, going recompile it !! [08:24] VampirePenguin, its not the problem with lilo .. it boots up fine .. [08:25] problem is within initrd [08:25] kindly read my problem statement :) [08:25] goodboy leroy, then you wont have problems with logical partitions = /dev/hda5 & up [08:25] the boot message say mount faild /dev/hdb6 to /mnt no such device, [08:25] it boots up fine? [08:25] ok [08:26] VampirePenguin, if at all it was a problem with lilo it wld never see my initrd ! problem comes withing initrd and it drops into busybox shell, [08:27] where i was able to see all my block devices for /dev/hdb* i know its hd* thats 4 sure [08:27] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com" [08:27] sopas (n=souphead@112.198.134.180) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:27] cathectic (n=cathecti@slamd64/cathectic) joined ##slackware. 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[09:03] hello :) [09:04] well thats fsking stupid - if you set the kde4 control theme to gtk kde refuses to start... had to edit the confs to go back [09:04] hey authusr [09:04] i was wondering how to configure sound blaster PCI 128 on slack 11... ;P [09:04] any suggestions? [09:04] authusr: Sorry I have no idea- im sure someone will apear in a bit to help you :p [09:05] Action: compl3x has never owned an external audio card [09:05] it's not external [09:05] it's old ;p [09:05] lspci says it's Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04) [09:05] haha um [09:05] tried alsaconf? [09:06] v4nelle (n=van@adsl91-196.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:06] ahh, lame me... ;x [09:06] i thought i need to load modules manually ;x [09:06] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] haha [09:07] yeah run `alsaconf` and follow the screen should be okay then [09:07] i hope so ;P [09:07] my experience with audio in linux is limited sorry :p [09:07] is it possible to use grub with slack? ;) [09:07] authusr: yes [09:07] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [09:07] authusr: I beleive its on the iso under extras [09:07] cool, bcause im compiling right now ;p [09:08] authusr: theres no need to I beleive [09:08] ;x [09:08] has anyone here seen the new star trek movie yet? [09:08] but you need iso, right? ;) [09:08] authusr: yeah if you have the iso or a local mirror its under extras/grub [09:08] v3gard: I got it - started watching and turned it off, didn't seem apealing - may watch it later tho [09:08] k, slapt-get should get it :) [09:09] Action: compl3x dislikes slapt-get [09:09] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:10] compl3x: okey. just wanted to know if it is "girlfriend-friendly", or if you had to be a fan of the series to understand what it's all about. [09:11] v3gard: I know people who have watched it who arn't startrek fans - apprently its awesome [09:11] v3gard, it's gf friendly, if that's your definition. [09:12] It is a reboot, so you don't need and prior knowledge [09:12] v3gard: haha my girlfriend wants me to watch it :p [09:12] My wife had never seen any ST, and she really liked it [09:12] what is ST? [09:13] startrek [09:13] :-) [09:13] My wife and I watched it, and it is good! She liked the movie too! [09:14] allright. thanks for your input guys.. guess I'll be watching star trek later :) [09:14] Wolverine, T4....too many good sci-fi movies [09:14] Im such a crap nerd - i dont like much sci-fi films:p [09:16] Gadotti (n=ruindows@201-41-205-214.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Gadotti (n=ruindows@201-41-205-214.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [09:16] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] compl3x: well, you do use slackware though :p [09:17] There's nothing much sci-fi about Wolverine really. [09:17] v3gard: fair enough :p [09:18] vvoody (n=vvoody@116.225.19.19) joined ##slackware. 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[09:48] kamaji (n=kamaji@137.222.233.63) joined ##slackware. [09:49] BP{k}: I was out there for hours man- gone all red and burnt :p [09:49] eh [09:50] I got away with minor burns [09:50] I shall survive [09:50] close call, tho [09:50] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.67) joined ##slackware. [09:51] learning for uni is so much easier in wintertime [09:51] its no fun to sit inside learning math when the weather is like this [09:51] slackytude, take your books outside ? [09:51] slackytude: thats true [09:51] along with beer ;) [09:52] got beer [09:52] Drank too much beer last night [09:52] Camarade_Tux, still no fun [09:52] recovering now [09:52] Action: BP{k} pokes kethry for bacon butties :P [09:52] nod__ (n=nod@esg114.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:52] I ordered slack 13 yesterday [09:52] and a tshirt [09:53] and the crowd goes wild! [09:53] No :p [09:53] \o/ [09:54] Action: Camarade_Tux is actually completely sleepy [09:54] Action: kethry_ sighs.. bacon butties coming up i suppose [09:54] kethry_: yum yum yum [09:54] compl3x: they'd be cold by the time you got here. [09:54] BP{k}, lucky bastard ^-^ [09:54] kethry_: where are you? geographically? [09:55] about 5 meters away from BP{k} [09:55] haha [09:55] well i do live with the guy! [09:55] oh haha [09:55] Good/bad thing kethry_ ? [09:55] You can tell someones english when they say "bacon butties" :p [09:56] good thing. mostly. i just have to do certain things to stay alive... like bacon butties. and coffee in the morning. [09:56] Axius (i=samyw@92.85.211.90) joined ##slackware. [09:56] evening [09:57] oh and compl3x ... hate to disappoint you, but while i'm English.. BP{k} ain't. [09:57] kethry_: really? [09:57] hey frullet [09:57] compl3x: nope. he's dutch. [09:57] kethry_: oh right - both slackware users? [09:57] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:58] Nick change: nod__ -> nod [09:58] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] How enable copy and paste in cui mode? [09:59] cui? [09:59] Axius: Select to copy and middle mouse button to paste? [10:00] compl3x: wash your mouth out with soap and water. of course we are. (in fact, i've threatened to leave him if he ever puts windows back on my computer.) [10:00] kethry_: :o - heh my gf wont go near linux. [10:00] kethry_: too stupid when it comes to pc's .. she things windows is "everything" [10:01] compl3x: keep hammering away at her. i used to think the same thing when i met BP. it is possible to convert us.. [10:01] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.67) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:02] kethry_: I reckon when 13 is out I may have a chance -seeming as kde4 - "its shiny I like it" when I showed her [10:02] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@200.128.3.100) joined ##slackware. [10:02] + she used itunes so theres no chance [10:03] itunes on win stinks [10:03] slackytude: but she needs it as she has an ipod - and ive never found an alternative on linux that didnt trash my itunesdb [10:03] amarok on linux beats that [10:03] huh? [10:03] amarok [10:04] Axius: you mean, in the console? as root, run "mouseconfig", it'll set it up for you [10:04] (morning people) [10:04] mornin Urchlay [10:04] can't help with the itunes thing, but you might want to point out the powerful customisations on KDE.. that's what i love. i can play! pretty colours! (and no, it doesn't take much to amuse me) [10:04] morning Urchlay [10:04] kethry_: I normally run fluxbox and used to despise kde4 - but im giving kde4 a shot for a while [10:05] Action: Urchlay taps foot impatiently while coffee brews [10:05] i've only ever used KDE tbh. although BP's got something else on the lappy which i used for a bit when on holiday. can't remember what that is. he'll tell you. [10:06] Urchlay: morning. [10:06] BP{k} [10:06] Action: compl3x is tempted to mirror slackware64 [10:06] eddie_grey (n=eddie@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [10:06] compl3x: do it :) [10:07] compl3x: conversion is simple. Just deny access to data ;) [10:07] Action: fred says the word "terrabytes" near kethry_ [10:07] haha [10:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:07] BP{k}: kethry_ please say you are physically talking to eachother - not just talking over irc :p [10:08] eddie_grey (n=eddie@200.138.220.246) left ##slackware. [10:08] terrorbytes! [10:08] Action: BP{k} pointsout to fred: buhkit [10:08] :D [10:08] Action: compl3x counts the english people im here :p [10:08] compl3x: do we have to? :-P [10:08] yes. [10:09] I should count as honorary English, for liking Dr. Who better than Star Trek :) [10:09] Dr Who ftw. [10:10] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.21) joined ##slackware. [10:10] compl3x: seen the new assistant? :) [10:10] fred: roast potatoes and buhkit. (*tries not to react to the word terrabytes*) [10:10] BP{k}: the one from the easter special? [10:10] Urchlay: Lies. [10:10] compl3x: no. the one for the new series. [10:10] and compl3x: we do talk to each other physically. sometimes. i suppose. [10:10] Urchlay: You would count as honourary English if you'd used the letter 'u' in 'honour' [10:10] BP{k}: I dont like the look of the new doctor but no I haven't seen the new assistant [10:11] fred ++! [10:11] compl3x: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8073734.stm [10:12] for some reason I really do type "behaviour" (not on purpose, but don't "correct" it if it happens) [10:12] BP{k}: I wouldn't say no - but ehm ginger :p [10:12] compl3x: indeed, yum :D [10:13] Action: compl3x watches kethry_ go crazy :p [10:13] yum, yes. Sums it up well [10:13] BP{k}: or are you talking about the butties [10:13] compl3x: nope. not going to. [10:13] :p [10:13] "butties"... ? [10:14] Urchlay: that just proves you are not english nor never will be :p [10:14] s/nor/and [10:15] :) [10:15] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:15] :| my boss is asking why our application has a habbit of printing out "wheee, badgers!" on stderr [10:15] Action: fred thought he removed that [10:15] hahaha [10:16] hjahaha [10:16] Urchlay: short for sandwiches. chip butty - sandwich made with thick cut fries heavily doused with salt and vinegar. bacon butties: sandwich made with bacon. [10:16] fred: package a badger in a box, poke it with sticks, mail it to your boss. [10:16] oh good, I did, it's an old version [10:16] though "ZOMG PONIES" shows up a few times in the PDF viewer :| [10:16] fred: oh and make it play "So happy together" when the box opens. ;) [10:17] Action: fred should start using sensible test data strings [10:17] fred: thats not fun. [10:17] fred: what sort of software do you write? [10:17] Axius (i=samyw@92.85.211.90) left irc: "Leaving" [10:17] automated lemonparty schedulers ;) [10:18] Badgers? We don't need no steenking badgers! [10:18] MUSHROOM MUSHROOM [10:18] compl3x: for a job, the downloadable part of www.mendeley.com [10:20] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] fred: very nice [10:22] wait, you guys make sandwiches with chips (fried potatoes)... [10:22] Urchlay: yeah both forms [10:23] Urchlay: chips as in fries. [10:23] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:23] but yeah I also make crisp sandwiches [10:23] fred, you mean [ "if_you_see_this_in_your_bindings_then_kick_your_neighbor" ] is not a sensible default value for data that should always be initalized ? =/ [10:23] the potatos replace the bread, or they're the inside of the sandwich? [10:23] inside the sandwich [10:23] NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THE ENGLISH [10:24] hm. Maybe that'd be OK if there's bacon in there too, or lots of cheese [10:24] onions? [10:24] Urchlay: no. Bread, butter, chips. ==> eat. [10:24] \o/ bacon butties FTW! [10:24] chips = fries urchlay [10:24] BP{k}: ++ [10:25] compl3x: that much I knew [10:25] (and crisps are what the US calls "potato chips") [10:25] bojevnik (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:25] Urchlay: correct [10:25] Urchelay... it's really only done with English chips ... which are slightly soggy, not crispy like french fries are. [10:25] and we call crisps chips [10:25] compl3x: ugh, not as in fries [10:25] Urchlay: chips as in thick things, not cwafer thins [10:26] fred: i did explain this [10:26] soggy with the oil it was fried in? [10:26] i said thick cut chips [10:26] sorry :p [10:26] wait, you said thick cut fries :| [10:26] fred: I call all forms - chips [10:26] Urchlay: um no, not that way.. that just sounds gross. they're twice fried [10:26] twice fried... sounds more like something from a chinese menu :) [10:26] kama (n=kama@87.19.118.89) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:27] I think what you're talking about are called "steak fries" here [10:27] kinda like potato wedges [10:27] fred: yeah that makes sense actually [10:27] yeah, that's the same thing [10:27] potato wedges ftw [10:28] morrisons potato wedges haha [10:28] potato wedges = steak fries, if you ever want to order them in the US [10:28] compl3x: we like lidl's home potato wedges [10:28] Urchlay: Ill take note [10:28] kethry_: I really like lidl's coleslaw :| [10:28] kethry_: don't have a lidl's near me - only sainsburys co-op and morrisons [10:28] not had nicer... [10:28] and if you're far enough south, "potato" is pronounced "tater"... [10:29] Urchlay: not chinese. um. for english chips you fry them once at a higher temp to seal the chip, remove from oil and drain, allow to cool for say, 10 minutes, then put back into oil at a lower temperature and cook for longer. [10:29] fred: yep lidl's coleslaw is pretty good :) although if you want really nice lemon coriander hummous, try aldi's. [10:29] compl3x: oh boo. lidl's rock for certain things. [10:30] kethry_: ]= [10:30] Action: compl3x needs a bew [10:30] brew* fail. [10:30] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:30] kethry_: tescos red pepper pesto humous :p [10:30] oh, yeah, what was that mayo you told me to get? [10:30] fred: what the dutch one? [10:31] Probably :p [10:31] or belgium. [10:31] fred: you can't get it here. but its called Calve. [10:32] compl3x: that's a point actually. if you ever go to the netherlands, or a friend is going, get them to get a jar of calve mayo. absolutely divine with chips. [10:32] kethry_: mmm sounds nice - I love a bit of mayo with fried chicken - perfects it [10:33] compl3x: then get the calve if you can. its gorgeously creamy. i do not want to know how many calories are in it. [10:33] kethry_: hm, I once worked in a restaurant where it was done the other way around: fry 'em for 10-15 minutes at low temp, drain, refrigerate... 6-8 hours later you fry them again at 350 degrees F for a couple minutes, and serve [10:33] Urchlay: that's not done for taste reasons though, is it? [10:33] nah [10:33] that's done to make it "fast" food [10:33] exactly [10:34] in an English chippy you have to wait for the food to be cooked, unless there's some there being kept warm. you can always tell a good chippy - they've got high number of people going in and out. [10:34] this place at least started with potatoes, employees had to peel them and slice into chips/fries [10:34] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:34] and you haven't lived till you've had english battered fish and chips out of newspaper by the seaside. [10:35] Urchlay: that's pretty good then. [10:35] kethry_: yes yes yes ! :) I live on the seaside and have 3 chippys near me [10:35] :( *jealous* [10:35] Action: BP{k} stabs compl3x [10:35] Action: kethry_ stops talking to compl3x [10:35] I've yet to find a good chippy in london [10:35] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] :) [10:35] ... [10:36] well, restaurants and pubs do fish and chips, but they cook it restaurant-style [10:36] "chippy" is kind of archaic slang for "prostitute"... your sentences read a bit weird to me the first time :) [10:36] it doesnt' count if it's not slightly soggy, thick battered, and served in newspaper [10:36] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.21) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:36] Urchlay: Want a fag? [10:36] Urchlay: lol i can imagine. [10:37] fred: please. [10:37] fred: just had one, thanks [10:37] Action: compl3x is having one now [10:37] (the cigarette kind, not the other kind...) [10:38] Urchlay: I know [10:38] a guy from new jersey I used to know, called cigarettes "bones" [10:38] almost got his ass kicked after moving to georgia and asking a guy "you got a bone I can smoke?" [10:39] aren't bones dollars? [10:39] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.21) joined ##slackware. [10:39] georgia.. ouch [10:39] pieces of eight [10:40] Action: compl3x calls them "smokes" [10:40] or "rollies" [10:41] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.205) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:41] although i was thinking of alabama just now... top gear's road trip [10:42] "rollies" would be the kind you roll yourself [10:42] Urchlay: yeah [10:42] kethry_: that was crazy [10:42] georgia's weird. Downtown Atlanta might as well be New York, as far as atmosphere goes [10:42] fred: he's doing it again [10:43] fred: UT and that song.. save meeeee! [10:43] kethry_: what song? [10:43] but I live maybe 40 miles away... the road I live on, there's a giant confederate flag at the intersection [10:44] compl3x: he plays UT, makes his avatar "dance" to the music "so happy together". its freaky [10:45] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [10:45] kethry_: haha [10:46] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:46] compl3x: worse - his avatar looks like bobba fett [10:46] there's something just.. *wrong* about watching bobba fett wiggle his backside to music [10:47] compl3x: realyl what inspired it all was this blogpost: http://tinyurl.com/2qsb5u [10:47] <[OpenSys]> lilo can install boot in raid1 with dmraid ? [10:48] <[OpenSys]> or need a patch [10:48] I'm Boba the Fett, my backpack's got jets... [10:48] Urchlay: its a trap! [10:48] Action: alienBOB is now known as AlienBOBA [10:49] kethry_: <3 [10:49] :) [10:49] [10:49] you're all sick, you hear? sick puppies!! [10:49] kethry_: shush :) [10:50] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.21) left irc: "Leaving." [10:51] kethry_: and we're so happy together :) [10:51] fred: no moar buhkits fer you! [10:51] fred: dammit, you owe me a new monitor. [10:51] ;( [10:56] Action: compl3x thinks he has glass in his foot :/ [10:57] losia (i=0@116.68.100.29) joined ##slackware. [10:57] ouch [10:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.15) left irc: [10:58] Pig_Pen: hi !! [10:59] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.205) joined ##slackware. [11:01] hey losia you get your kernel working the way you want? [11:03] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) left irc: Client Quit [11:04] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:04] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Pig_Pen: problem ws not with what you said ! it was much more deeper , usually i enable PCI access as direct, but this time by mistake selected MMconfig , any way now im on d *29.4 and doing a refined configration . [11:05] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.139.164) joined ##slackware. [11:05] It was the problem with drivers [11:05] new kernel upgrade in current [= [11:05] compl3x: orly? [11:05] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) left irc: Client Quit [11:05] compl3x: how's kde4 treating you? [11:05] though what you said is correct i usually get warning regarding that! [11:05] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [11:05] eviljames: Im ashamed to say it - but been using it all day and im starting to get a hold of it [11:06] Axius (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:06] Samy2 (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [11:06] compl3x: once you a) get used to it's new-isms, or b) customize your key/mouse bindings I'll admit it can be painful [11:06] err [11:06] s/once/until [11:06] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] eviljames: kde doesn't follow UNIX the unix way . :( [11:06] eviljames: I reckon ill stay with it for a while - but when I set control theme as gtk kde4 wouldn't start , so i had to go in and edit the config file and set it back to oxygen [11:06] the UNIX [11:07] yeah, i spend a good amount of time looking through menuconfig until i get it right, then i save it in more than one location so i dont have to make another, after that it is not such a big deal anymore because you can import it to a newer kernel if you ever rebuild [11:07] http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/homebrewed-cpu/ [11:07] funky shit [11:07] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.205) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:07] slackytude: is that bmow? [11:07] aye [11:07] impressiv [11:07] slackytude: wire wrapped the proper way :p [11:07] hahah funky and super impressive indeed! [11:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:07] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.205) joined ##slackware. [11:08] Pig_Pen: :) [11:08] Pig_Pen: it took me 2 days to figure the stuff out !! [11:08] eviljames, computer for the post apocalyps [11:08] e [11:08] Action: compl3x designed and built a simple 4 bit cpu last summer [11:08] compl3x: wow , great . [11:08] compl3x, with wire? [11:08] slackytude: not wirewrapped no. [11:09] man! imagine a beowulf cluster of those! [11:09] you could heat your house with them [11:09] eviljames: of 4bit cpus ? [11:09] compl3x, what else then? [11:09] slackytude: made all the pcb's etc. [11:09] pcb? [11:09] slackytude: printed circuit board. [11:10] ugh, pcb etching [11:10] ah,ok [11:10] you just design the pcb layout, or had to mess with scary chemicals yourself? [11:10] when i'm trying to play any movie in mplayer i got bad colors... [11:10] what's wrong with that? [11:10] i'm using apm driver with xorg [11:10] Urchlay: not difficult - ferric chloride [11:11] Urchlay: smells a bit and stains your hands but does the job [11:11] not difficult, but it stinks [11:11] authusr: are you on defauly xorg.conf [11:11] yeah. One of my ex-roommates used the master bathroom in the apartment for PCB etching [11:11] losia, almost, i got to change my mouse protocol and driver for gpu [11:11] after he moved out, I moved into his old room... but the bathroom was destroyed [11:12] haha [11:12] which irc client do you slackware users use? do you prefer any other than irssi? [11:12] authusr: are you sure you're using the actual driver other than vesa . coz if faced d same problem [11:12] irssi here. [11:12] xchat [11:12] i'm sure - vesa is non-accelerated :) [11:13] and amd-k6 200Mhz isn't working well withoud any kind of acceleration :P [11:13] authusr: im not recommeding vesa ,rather i m asking you to use the actual driver [11:13] Guest55277 (n=nobody@58.247.239.75) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Nick change: Guest55277 -> nn_ick [11:13] when I started studying CS we made somethin simliar, building the blocks of a computer ourselves. ram, registers and so on [11:14] my Section "Device": Identifier "Hercules"\nDriver "apm" [11:14] that's all ;p [11:14] compl3x: irssi is bit strange in views of differnt channel [11:14] huh? hercules? [11:14] mmm, irssi [11:14] josteintl, i'm using xchat [11:14] slackydude, got sth against hercules stingray 128/3D? ;) [11:14] hi. i want to make a kernel module. the compile says cannot find linux/mm.h and some other header files. but there they are, the header files [11:15] authusr: play with xorgconfig [11:15] know your driver configure it properly , [11:15] what game should i play with it? :P [11:15] losia: in what sense is it strange? [11:15] _ohm (n=mark@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:16] slackytude: man, I wish all CS students had to do this. I worked with a couple of guys who, if they thought about it at all, thought a computer was somehow made out of Java objects [11:16] authusr, aint that EGA? [11:16] Urchlay, ouch :| [11:16] BP{k}:i mean in xchat v hav tab views , in all those terms :) [11:17] slackytude, that's not EGA, i think ;) [11:17] Urchlay, I really liked it. I couldnt build my own computer with a lot of books and time but at least Ive got a general idea. we actually started with mechanical Addition devices [11:17] Action: losia rebooting .. .. [11:17] Urchlay, and slide rules ^-^ [11:17] losia (i=0@116.68.100.29) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:17] maybe i need to know how to adjust hue settings in cmd-line mplayer [11:17] authusr, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Graphics_Card [11:18] This is you father's slide rule, a more elegant weapon from a more civilised time [11:18] Urchlay, heh, yeah. A Gentlemans device [11:18] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:18] Urchlay, reading Dark Tower? [11:18] whats the email again to use to suggest for changes in slackware current packages? qt html doc must be included [11:19] no, that was supposed to be Obi Wan from Star Wars giving Luke his light saber :) [11:19] Urchlay, ah right [11:19] must confess I never learned to use a slide rule though [11:19] Action: compl3x wonders if anyone here uses wine for windows games.. [11:19] I did [11:20] I do [11:20] well, I used too [11:20] compl3x: I used to [11:20] What games? [11:20] warcraft 3 worked great [11:20] starcraft, wow, CS, Silent Hunter, Aces of the Deep.X-com series [11:20] slackydude, this card is svga [11:20] i'm pretty sure :) [11:20] and, even the qt assistent is empty [11:20] Anyone tried call of duty? [11:20] compl3x, should run [11:21] yeah, everyone get starcraft working, it's kind of a baseline test for wine [11:21] compl3x, has gold rating [11:21] josteint, did you get my PM? [11:21] slackytude: so if I setup wine with direct x I should be safe to run? [11:21] when ever I rune wine stuff I always get loads of fixme's in the terminal [11:21] compl3x, check the win app DB. yes, it shoul [11:21] "age of empires" runs for crap in wine... for some reason I still play that game, but I do it in virtualbox [11:22] age of empires I? [11:22] compl3x, that game even has a slackware rating of Gold, which is rare [11:22] well, 1 plus the "rise of rome" expansion, yes [11:22] in fact, call of duty is supposed to run faster than under windows [11:22] I'd play II if only I could find the damn CD [11:22] if you like aoe1, you should try rise of nations [11:23] hmmm [11:23] it works good on wine [11:23] works good for me ;) [11:23] compl3x, setup wine with directx? no need to install directX [11:23] slackytude: why not :S [11:24] it does it on its own [11:24] I wanna play some x-com this summer. [11:24] One of the greatest games. [11:24] youll experience the pulse pounding thrill and speed of real-time gaming combined with the epic scope and depth of turn-based strategy games <--- so which is it, turn-based or RTS? [11:24] aye [11:25] I think there are some german remakes of it. [11:25] What is x-com? [11:25] Anyone used crossover? [11:25] josteint, I gave you the email in PM. I dont give emails in a public channel [11:25] Action: slackytude slaps bryanlharris [11:25] Buggaboo: x-com, the old DOS game? you play that in dosbox or did someone do a new engine for it that runs on modern OSes? [11:25] hah [11:25] compl3x, yes [11:25] Urchlay, it runs on dosbox. [11:25] okay fine google is my friend [11:25] slackytude: again, any good? :p [11:25] reminds me of Duke Nukem 3D : earlier this week I started playing with the High Resolution Pack, it feels weird ;p [11:26] Urchlay, there are several of the x-com series. some dos, some win [11:26] Camarade_Tux: eduke32? [11:26] slackytude: yes. got it! thank you. sending him and info@slackware.com a request now [11:26] slackytude: ah, I didn't know there were sequels [11:26] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [11:26] that game looks kind of old [11:27] echo Hello, people! [11:27] compl3x, not really better than wine, imho. it used to play some games wine couldnt but I think they are on equal stepping. its gives you a nice GUI, tho [11:27] SDL_Mixer is also missing doc. i will send a request for that as well if i get an answer to the mail [11:27] slackytude: hmm - If i wanted to run cod under wine - surley Id need directx installed? [11:27] just install windows [11:27] Urchlay, eh, you gotta be kidding. most recent of the series is two or three years old [11:27] compl3x, no, not really [11:28] slackytude: not kidding, I really don't keep track of the gaming world all that well.. [11:28] its all the same just little different here and there [11:28] Urchlay, yeah, among others :) [11:29] Camarade_Tux: what else do you use for a Duke 3D engine on Linux? jfduke? [11:29] on linux, I don't know =/ [11:29] but wine should do it [11:29] ah. Here I was, hoping you were using my eduke32 slackbuild... [11:30] compl3x, http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-fbaa851e07d7484640cc10b6d0c48abc741260b2 [11:31] cheers slackytude [11:31] compl3x, wine comes with directx 9.0c support [11:31] Does wine require the game to have opengl support? [11:31] Urchlay, hmmm, let me grab the slackbuilds ;) [11:31] bryanlharris: no [11:31] bryanlharris, no, but OpenGL games run better [11:31] ah [11:31] directx calls are translated to opengl ones [11:31] nn_ick (n=nobody@58.247.239.75) left ##slackware ("‚»"). [11:31] slackytude, not always actually [11:31] bryanlharris: doesn't *require* it, but if the game offers opengl as an option it'll run better/faster usually [11:31] Camarade_Tux, most of the time, anyway [11:31] e.g. warcraft 3 works better with [11:32] "wine war3.exe -opengl" [11:32] so does WOW [11:32] I installed WoW/cedega and back in the day and I remember it was noticeably slower/crappier than in m$ [11:32] wow in wine beat windows wow in FPS [11:32] Urchlay: I've heard mixed reports about that, some say it does others say it doesn't [11:32] bryanlharris, heh, we tested it at work not too long ago, same machines [11:32] interesting [11:32] Urchlay, if I get the slackbuild for eduke32_hires_pack, I shouldn't get the one for eduke32, right ? [11:32] maybe I didn't set it up right [11:33] sitwon: well, OK, I should have said "it works beter for me" [11:33] Action: slackytude shruges [11:33] maybe [11:33] Camarade_Tux: no, you need eduke32 for the game engine, the _hires_pack package just has the HRP files [11:33] I did alter a few settings and started in OpenGL mode [11:34] it was functional but I'm definitely no genius who can get everything just right, like I remember the water was not transparent but in m$ it was transparent [11:34] Urchlay, you should update the slackbuild for it to work with 64bit archs :) [11:34] bryanlharris, some game _must_ run in opengl mode on wine [11:34] maybe they fixed all that stuff by now though [11:34] ah [11:34] Camarade_Tux: IIRC, the code won't even compile on 64-bit [11:34] like World of Warcraft [11:34] what was a disappoitnemt was CS2 in wine [11:34] because you're not compiling right? [11:34] crappy [11:35] Camarade_Tux: wine on 64bit can be challanging :D [11:35] it's just a binary from the CDROM I thought? [11:35] Camarade_Tux: like, I think it'll fail immediately with "unsupported architecture" error... [11:35] Urchlay, hmmm, ok, no problem, slamd64 here so multilib :) [11:35] or do you really compile some source codes? [11:35] I haven't bothered myself, but there's a number of 32 bit compat libs you have to install to make it work (iirc..) [11:35] bryanlharris, they talk about compiling wine [11:35] bryanlharris: what are you asking about compiling? [11:35] aptitude search gcc | grep compat [11:35] oh I see [11:35] I got confused [11:35] eviljames, well, you mean it doesn't reeally work? :p [11:36] fred has made compat32 packages available for slackware64-current [11:36] nifty [11:36] Camarade_Tux: no, just that I've not done it. [11:36] eviljames, I've tried it and it really doesn't work well ;) [11:37] oh [11:37] alienBOB, hmmm, nice :) [11:37] alienBOB: latest 64-current + fred's compat32 packages... does that allow actually compiling 32-bit binaries, or just running them? [11:38] Is that called cross compiling? [11:38] eviljames, eduk32 compiled fine, no need to install additional 32bit compat libs :) [11:38] or is cross compiling something else? [11:38] (if you don't answer, I guess I'll know in a couple of hours after I eat & install stuff :) [11:38] http://www.slackware.org.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [11:39] Urchlay: it will allow you to compile 32bit packages like wine [11:39] bryanlharris, no, cross compiling is when you compile for a differen arch than your own [11:39] lol compiling wine on 64-bit amd is easier than compiling anything on amd-k6 ;)) [11:39] Urchlay: I'll try right now and report back. [11:39] nice [11:40] Action: alienBOB compiled a 64bit dosbox package. Guess what, that is able to run old DOS programs just fine. No compat32 packages required [11:40] I did my own crappy set of compat32 packages but I knew there was no point releasing them [11:40] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@200.128.3.100) left irc: "Leaving" [11:40] L33t ;) [11:40] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [11:42] mine didn't even try to support compilation though, just 32-bit runtime [11:43] Like bluewhite64 has [11:44] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] hmmm, working :) [11:46] the keybindings suck though, let's setxkbmap us :) [11:46] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [11:46] yeah... I knew fred was working on doing it right, I just wanted to see if I could do it at all [11:47] Camarade_Tux: the shortcut for that in kde4 is ctrl-alt-k. maybe you should migrate... [11:47] what options should I include in my xorg.conf "driver" section to modify hue of movies? [11:48] eviljames, why ? there is always an xterm opened ans it's just setxus :) [11:48] authusr: you might want to do that in your mplayer config, unless the whole X session has wrong colors [11:48] Camarade_Tux: heh fair enough. [11:48] or adjust your monitor. [11:49] atom_fox (i=1000@122.55.123.119) joined ##slackware. [11:50] atom_fox (i=1000@122.55.123.119) left irc: Client Quit [11:50] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [11:51] Ok, my config file of .mplayer is empty. Any ideas? :) [11:51] hrm, even with compat from slamd64 I'm told gcc -m32 does not work.. [11:52] correct [11:52] http://www.slackware.org.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [11:53] yea, I've had them for a while, just haven't had time to spend on it until now. [11:53] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [11:53] and I had just rsync'd prior to install, so I know it's up to date. [11:53] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Client Quit [11:56] hrm.. i knew i should've put on coffee before sitting down.. [11:57] eviljames: what do you use as ARCH? [11:57] eviljames: those aren't slamd64 packages, those are slack64, notice [11:58] i686 and x86_64 give different results, but both complain not being able to make binaries. [11:58] It should be x86_64 even when compiling 32bit [11:59] There is more than just calling a SlackBuild - look inside fred's SlackBuilds for the use of CC="gcc -m32" and more goodies [11:59] who does slack on laptops and use a pcmcia wifi card? esp a Yenta bridge [11:59] I had figured, but it was worth a shot :D [12:00] authusr: I have no idea :) ...mplayer's got a nice long man page, also there are the docs on the mplayer site. I bet you'll find it there... [12:00] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:01] Pig_Pen: apparently I do, according to dmesg on my laptop... [12:01] pci=assign-busses [12:02] eh? that's from a config file, or a kernel parameter? [12:02] before i install slack i want to try slax and make sure i can get wifi working [12:02] oh duke nukem 3d, good :) [12:02] lilo boot parameter to the kernel [12:03] that stupid slax boot prompt wont give me a commandline to set a param, even ctrl x wont work [12:04] Camarade_Tux: with high res pack? [12:04] Action: compl3x is starting to like kde4- kill me someone . [12:04] Urchlay, not yet, still downloading ;) [12:04] Action: Urchlay shoots compl3x with the duke nuken RPG... "groovy, baby" [12:04] Urchlay: ++ [12:04] or should I say -- [12:05] --lives;awesome++ [12:06] Pig_Pen: hm. This laptop, I didn't need anything special passed to the kernel. Just installed slack 12.1, later upgraded to 12.2. [12:06] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:06] it's an old Sony Vaio from about 2002 though [12:06] Urchlay: black? [12:06] almost black. "charcoal grey" I think they call it [12:06] Urchlay: I have an old sony vaio from around 2002 :p [12:06] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/pcmcia.html this is what i am looking at, i can see my pcmcia card has the rt61 kernel module so i think i am doing good there i may not need to pass any param at boot but i just want to cover all bases [12:07] compl3x: is your backlight dying of old age? [12:08] Urchlay:it got cola spilt over it a while back - I managed to open it and repair it but its not really usable anymore - so I take it as a no:p [12:08] ouch [12:08] I've taken pretty good care of mine (bought it new & used it since) [12:08] Urchlay: I didn't spill the cola on it :p [12:08] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-28-150.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:09] gasp! [12:09] ugh. My little brother managed to spill coffee in the cartridge slot of my Atari 5200 once [12:09] my sister wants me to download the sims [12:09] Im shocked [12:09] my sister, a common criminal [12:09] I got all panicked & tried to soak up the coffee with a paper towel [12:09] haha [12:09] i was more shocked that she wanted to play sims [12:09] eviljames: me too [12:09] lol [12:10] ...which disintegrated & got stuck in the cart slot. So I try to remove the mess with an x-acto knife, and end up breaking one of the spring-loaded pins in there :( [12:10] afaik, girls dig the sims [12:10] slackytude: truth. [12:10] mine is older, i have a panasonic toughbook cf-72 that has a win98 oem sticker on the bottom, i put win2k on it since the crappy ati rage mobility did not want to give me X and wifi has not worked but wifi might be solvable since i can see the kernel wants to load the same kernel module as windows uses (rt61) i just need to iron the wrinkles out of this [12:10] slackytude: and confused young gentlemen. [12:10] girls digg the sims because theyre reactions are so apauling they can't be men and play fps's [12:10] eventually they'll choose a side. it's all good. but when they're confused LOOK OUT SIMS! [12:10] Action: compl3x can't spell today [12:11] Pig_Pen: my vaio's got crappy ati rage mobility, X always worked (have to do some messing around to get 3d accel to work though, and once I do it's not really worth it) [12:12] yeah, i may not even install X and just use cli apps, irssi, lynx, & etc... [12:12] mutt [12:12] had a laptop I used like that (only had 16M of RAM in it, X was swappy as hell) [12:13] today looks like it's gonna be crazy nice outside. screw the horse races, i'm going to the beach. [12:13] this thing has a 700m p3 coppermine & 256 megs ram, old but not too ancient [12:13] I did get mplayer to play movies on the framebuffer without X running, but it wasn't really fast enough to keep up the framerate [12:13] ati drivers are worse than hercules one :) [12:14] GF2 is better than ATI 9800 pro on linux [12:14] win2k is running decent on it, i may just keep that and dualboot with slack without x in a small partition [12:15] authusr: the ancient rage mobility chips, apparently the xorg driver isn't in the main xorg tree because of potential security flaws in the driver (local root exploits, like I'm really worried about that on a laptop that stays powered off 95% of the time...) [12:15] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-82-133.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [12:15] yeah [12:16] thats what i want this for, just for those times i need to drag a laptop somewhere that a desktop is not practical [12:16] but afair there were no working drivers for my ati 9200 ;p [12:16] only open drivers... [12:16] hmmm. I got a box with an ATI 9250SE IIRC, the open source xorg ATI driver works well with it (even TV out works) [12:17] open source drivers are nice, and keeps working old amd cards on *nix [12:17] linux* [12:18] (box hasn't been powered on in months, or I'd check & see whether that's the right model number) [12:18] Ive got ATI raedeon mobility with xorg driver [12:18] probably not helpful [12:18] slackytude: the mach64 kernel module? [12:19] kjalil (n=kjaleel@kerneljack.com) joined ##slackware. [12:19] Urchlay, no radeon module [12:20] ah, not the same at all.. I wish manufacturers wouldn't give completely different products the same name [12:21] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:21] oh wait, they didn't. You actually said "radeon" the first time and my eyes saw "rage" [12:21] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: "changing servers" [12:25] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [12:26] i got slax connected, everything looks good except for the connection speed is like 1 or 2 mbits S [12:27] when it should be 54MbitsS [12:27] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] Action: compl3x just found some hamburger cheese in the fridge that says "6% cheese " :| [12:29] 94% fat & chicken grease ;p [12:30] throw it out before it cloggs your arteries [12:30] Action: jeev needs more fiber [12:31] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-82-133.singnet.com.sg) left ##slackware. [12:31] eat a bowl of raison bran, i have one every day [12:31] ;/ [12:31] oh, high resolution pack installed :) [12:33] man, downloading blade runner sure takes time [12:34] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:35] dang laptop, everything looks good in iwconfig and ifconfig, but no network action [12:35] Pig_Pen: I smoke - 6% cheese is the least of my worries [12:35] i checked config files in /etc too [12:36] slackytude: blade runner is worth it though [12:36] Urchlay, its the game [12:36] i quit smoking about a year ago and sometimes i still want a smoke [12:36] hrrr, there's a blade runner game? [12:36] yes. [12:36] old but good. :) [12:36] bladerunner is a classic [12:36] Urchlay, Im trying to get it working for ages now. even bought the game disc off a second hand store [12:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_(1997_video_game) [12:37] # Blade Runner (1985 video game) a computer game released for the Amstrad CPC, Commodore 64, and ZX Spectrum <--- I suppose you don't mean that one :) [12:37] correct [12:37] what BP{k} said [12:38] BP{k} has the weirdest nick i've ever seen [12:39] says the dude called jeev [12:39] :< [12:39] there are braces in the name!! [12:39] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.115.64) joined ##slackware. [12:40] how to change the label of a FAT flash drive on slackware? [12:40] ah! the tab key will give me a change to set a boot parameter [12:41] Urchlay, high resolution working nicely :) [12:41] I guess "jeev" is one of whatever "jeeves" is more than one of? [12:41] Camarade_Tux: cool [12:42] Camarade_Tux: you have to do anything to the slackbuild for eduke32 to get it to build on slamd64? [12:43] Urchlay, zero, nada, nothing :) [12:44] Camarade_Tux, thats not much! [12:44] stop gang raping me [12:44] Thursap: check out mkdosfs -n [12:44] slackytude, still a bit too much -_- [12:45] Camarade_Tux: hm, you built it as a 64-bit binary and it works? /me checks his notes... [12:45] Mr_Patterson (i=a1b8ae81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4b360c7178453c1) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Urchlay, no, it built as 32 [12:46] so you changed the cflags to include -m32 at least? [12:46] actually, ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64 [12:46] ah [12:46] (from file) [12:47] so you just got rid of my "exit 1" if ARCH is x86_64 then? [12:47] no, I thought it would compile as 32bit so I just ran the slackbuild :p [12:47] ah. You don't have ARCH set in your environment then? [12:48] noe [12:48] *nope [12:49] hm, if you go building slackbuilds without setting ARCH, you'll end up with 64-bit libraries in /usr/lib even when the build is smart enough to use /usr/lib64 [12:49] but it's interesting to hear that it does compile as 64-bit [12:49] setting arch has nothing to do with libdir output [12:50] eh? if [ "$ARCH" = "x86_64" ]; then LIBDIRSUFFIX="64" <--- that's what I'm talking about [12:50] sure, that's right. but few (if any) currently on SBo have the --libdir tag to configure [12:51] yeah [12:51] I suspect that will be changing over the next little while though [12:51] Urchlay, I really wasn't expecting it to compile as 64bit ;) [12:51] i suppose I should've udpated everything to -current before attempting to compile wine [12:51] now, you can update your script :p [12:51] Action: eviljames hangs his head in shame [12:52] Camarade_Tux: it needs updating anyway, now that I look at it again [12:52] eviljames, why ? [12:52] Urchlay, yeah, I think there are more recent sources/hrp [12:52] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:52] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.115.64) left irc: "leaving" [12:53] Camarade_Tux: because now it isn't complaining about -m32 [12:53] yeah, eduke32_src_20090131.zip exists now... [12:53] josteint1 (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:54] Urchlay, I hope it solves the problem with saves (when you save over an old save, it doesn't save) [12:54] =/ [12:54] saving the game is for wimps :) [12:54] but yeah, that'd be nice [12:54] heh [12:54] ever played space quest? [12:54] eviljames, I take it you've spent a lot of time on that :p [12:55] Camarade_Tux: nah, maybe 10 minutes [12:55] slackytude: very briefly, not long enough to remember much about it [12:55] or half hour tops [12:55] Urchlay, you die in every screen :| [12:55] fun [12:55] yeah, especially without saving [12:55] Urchlay, well, not really : because it won't let me do anything, I can't Alt+Tab, I can't change desktops, I can't move mouse cursor outside the window, so it's actually useful to use irc at the same time ;) [12:55] eviljames, oh, that's ok [12:55] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@200.128.3.100) joined ##slackware. [12:55] now you can update everythin.... using slackware64 ? :D [12:56] Camarade_Tux: oh, right. Damn windows-centric code, assumes it owns the entire machine... [12:56] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Camarade_Tux: atm I have slackware64 and slamd64/slackware64/32compat packages [12:57] eviljames: using fred's shiny new stuff, not from slamd64 12.2? [12:57] wine is compiling away happily atm. [12:57] Urchlay: yep. [12:57] wery nice [12:57] eviljames, trying wine64 ? [12:57] Urchlay: had been sitting on it for a little while, had no time to do anything w/ it...\ [12:58] wine64 is useful for what, exactly? it runs only windows 64-bit exes, right? [12:58] axius1 (n=Kimmy@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [12:58] yeah [12:58] I don't know if it runs 32bit too [12:58] I'm going to install sims right away. As soon as it's done compiling! [12:59] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Action: Camarade_Tux slaps eviljames [12:59] hmm wine has a 64bit? [12:59] Nick change: Part` -> MistrzTS [12:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426562.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] last time I knew it didn't run 64 at all [12:59] kitche, yeah, quite recent, not very good [12:59] and needs gcc 4.4 iirc [12:59] yeah, it needs gcc 4.4 otherwise it fails during compilation [12:59] there's not enough 64-bit windows binaries for that to be worthwhile :p [12:59] (yet) [13:00] but mingw-w64 is on its way ;p [13:00] I think I have two on my windows system: winscp, and Far Cry [13:00] windows uses a compat layer anyways from what I remember not sure how much commericial stuff is built for 64bit really [13:00] far cry is 64bit? [13:00] hello happy slackers [13:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host128-192-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hey ho [13:00] I think I have none :D [13:00] Shuren (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hey LnxSlck [13:00] slackytude: there is/was a download for a 64-bit binary on the AMD website [13:00] hey Camarade_Tux [13:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [13:00] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-41-205-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:01] fred, interesting [13:01] oh, oh, oh ! I have one 64bit binary : 7zip ! [13:01] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:02] wow [13:02] I'm still looking for a second one ;) [13:04] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:04] Mr_Patterson (i=a1b8ae81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4b360c7178453c1) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:04] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:05] bryanlharris (n=bharris@66-190-66-200.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] so whatever happened to 1zip through 6zip? [13:06] sorta like Preparations A through G? [13:07] Urchlay: same what happened with Babylon 1-4? ;) [13:08] Action: LnxSlck oh boy.. upgrading my machine after 1 month away [13:08] woop woop toy story is on tv [13:08] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] axius1 (n=Kimmy@92.84.29.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:09] _ohm (n=mark@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] well, gotta go otherwise I'll be starving during the next two days (and I am *already* starving) [13:11] Samy2 (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) left irc: Client Quit [13:12] hmmm.. "Preparation H is our last, best hope" doesn't quite have the same ring to it... [13:13] Samy2 (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [13:13] BP{k}, one exploded, one got lost [13:13] BP{k}, two are still operational, afaik [13:13] slackytude: it didn't get lost. [13:13] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] BP{k}, no? [13:14] I thought it went into hyperspace or sumsuch [13:14] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:14] time travel [13:14] bably[1-3] exploded, Babylon 4, drifted back in time (about 1000 years) to serve as a battle base in the first shadow war. [13:14] oh right [13:15] my babylon fu is weak [13:15] "They told me I was daft to build a space station in a swamp, but I built one anyway! It sank into the swamp, so I built another! That one burned down, then sank into the swamp" [13:15] 1500 packets transmitted, 1459 packets received, 2.7% packet loss [13:15] jesus [13:16] i think it's miscounted. [13:16] authusr (n=user@chello089078097101.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [13:16] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] or no probably not [13:19] I'd really better go now :D [13:20] Action: slackytude waves [13:21] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [13:21] bzlbb (n=b@198.110.10.2) joined ##slackware. [13:21] adios, Camarade_Tux [13:21] have a nice game of Duke 3D :) [13:22] bbs ;) [13:22] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [13:27] ok, wine built and installed, testing with some windows prog.. [13:27] gm151 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] gm151 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:29] gm151 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:32] those laptops were once used by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol & State police [13:33] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Samy2 (i=samyw@92.84.29.249) left irc: Client Quit [13:35] Axius (n=Kimmy@92.84.29.249) joined ##slackware. [13:35] slackytude: did you actually go and do the sims thing? [13:36] eviljames, huh? I'd never *dream* of doing such vile things [13:36] lies. [13:36] it's your favorite game. [13:36] dirty lie! [13:36] once saw a shelf full of laptops at a giant computer show, with a sign saying "Government surplus. Do not ask questions about these laptops" [13:37] lol [13:37] lol [13:37] Action: fred accidentally deletes most of his music :( [13:37] yay for backups [13:37] (what they really meant was "we don't know anything about computers, we just sell this stuff as-is", but the wording was pretty funny anyway) [13:37] Axius (n=Kimmy@92.84.29.249) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:38] fred: if you were using zfs, you'd just rsync Music/.zfs/snapshot/yesterday/* Music/ and be happy about it :P [13:38] rsync -av /media/1tb-external/Music /mnt/media/Music :p [13:38] not complete; some of it's on my work machine, the rest I've got on CDs here :) [13:39] back :) [13:40] yeah, when i got this one it had xp on it, but the underside had a win98 OEM sticker on it, and there was a OHP car in the driveway, i had a feeling that it was wiped and reinstalled, then i seen that ad on craigslist just now, the phone number is the same as the one i got mine from, [13:41] I'd have tried to find out whether the installed XP was legit or not [13:41] cops running pirated OS, film at 11 [13:41] heh [13:41] wouldnt suprise me [13:41] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left ##slackware. [13:41] tooly (n=theo@e178170200.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:42] not only that when i went to OKC to pick up the laptop the guys house is only a mile or a little more for one of the major OHP offices too plus the patrol car in the driveway [13:42] most small to medium sized offices dont care at all about licensinf [13:42] waffle house used to run unregistered shareware pkzip on their old dos-based management/timeclock system [13:42] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [13:44] i wiped xp off, tried slackware on it for a day and could not get x or wifi working and put win2k on this this morning, i been trying to get slax to run the wifi but it wont quite go right, i think i will keep win2k on it and try to get slax to work and when i figure out what it is i will implement the fix with slackware, [13:46] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-50.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] at least win2k does not have that product activation time bomb in it like xp does [13:47] win2k probably runs a little smoother on it, too [13:47] yup [13:48] the xp that was on it seemed a little top heave [13:48] yeavy* [13:48] Pig_Pen, tried ndiswrapper ? [13:48] no, and i wont [13:48] hosl (n=UNIX@201.25.182.56) joined ##slackware. [13:48] v4nelle (n=van@adsl91-196.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] hosl (n=UNIX@201.25.182.56) left ##slackware. [13:49] if my niece comes over and if she likes it i will tell here 150 or OBO [13:49] OBO? [13:49] or best offer [13:50] $150, or you trade me your oboe [13:50] Pig_Pen, why? [13:50] (never could stand the sound of a solo oboe, used to date a girl who played one, tried to pretend to enjoy it but...) [13:52] she does not play any musical instruments, she is a part time CPA and a cook at the local elementary school [13:52] Mr_Patterson (i=a1b8ae81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b3afd9f8355e34df) joined ##slackware. [13:55] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.57.220) joined ##slackware. [13:57] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.142.214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:58] hmmm ... slackware64-current ends up smaller than slackware-current ... must be some stuff missing in 64-bit [13:58] extra/kde3-compat is missing a few packages [13:58] its because 64 is bigger than 32, so you need less of them [13:58] :P [13:58] lol :p [13:59] I'd bet more packages are as .txz [13:59] ...and my amp goes to 11 :) [13:59] ok, not really : only a dozen of packages are still tgz [13:59] binaries would be somewhat larger due to larger static data, constants, pointers, symbol table addresses [14:00] (and that includes ksg, seejpeg, nc) [14:00] Camarade_Tux: this is size as installed ... not the original packages [14:00] Action: Skaperen installed both [14:00] and full install of both, with KDEI [14:01] why would you install all of kdei? you speak all those languages? [14:02] no [14:02] (if so I'm quite impressed) [14:02] 1: wanted to compare with full ... 2: too lazy to pick just the languages I can read [14:02] I accidentally downloaded kdei due to fatfingering my rsync command... [14:02] I accidentally the whole thing [14:02] what is the breakdown for the sizes ? /usr/share, /usr/include, /usr/lib*, /usr/bin ? [14:02] don't install any of kdei, and you get English (which you seem to be speaking right now, so that's probably OK) [14:03] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.28.193.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:03] slackytude, and it's really huge ;) [14:03] Urchlay: I wonder more than just english ... but I probably will later do an install without KDEI to compare [14:03] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] and I just accidentally the whole olive kernel [14:04] Urchlay: I'm doing analysis (e.g. being anal) right now to figure sizes for the real machine that will be targeted for final install [14:05] cool [14:05] analysis: I do several partitions, so I like to know sizes to tune it well [14:06] I take the sloppy approach: I can't buy a hard drive small enough that a full install won't fit on it, so that's what I end up with (minus kdei, just to avoid waiting for all that useless [to me] stuff to install) [14:06] analysis: and this time, I'm doing a combo 32/64 bit system ... not multilib ... though I may do that, too ... just a 2 root tree system [14:06] lvh (n=lvh@83.101.8.169) joined ##slackware. [14:06] several partition is a tuned instalation ? [14:06] Skaperen, what are the respective sizes of /usr/{bin,lib,lib64,share,include} ? [14:06] slackytude: I was going to troll you, but I had to look up "slackware fork", so I'm not going to. [14:06] Camarade_Tux: don't have those details just yet ... I'm doing raw image archiving ATM [14:06] slackware tuning fork... [14:07] lvh, lol [14:07] lvh, dirty mind you have there [14:07] slackytude: Eh? [14:07] lvh, maybe I should visit you in #debian [14:07] the idea is separate root trees for 32 bit and 64 bit ... boot into one of them, chroot as needed into the other to test/reference stuff [14:07] Skaperen, ok [14:07] Skaperen: you'll always be booting the 64-bit kernel then? [14:08] (32-bit kernel can't chroot into the 64-bit tree...) [14:08] Urchlay: initially no ... I have several of my own programs that are only in 32-bit, and source only tested in 32-bit ... need to migrate those to 64-bit ... so initially I'll boot into 32 bit [14:08] slackytude: I wouldn't, abrotman will eat you alive [14:09] Skaperen, hmmm, multilib ? [14:09] Urchlay: eventually that will change ... and I'll have the 32 bit tree to back reference to check if issues really exist in 32 bit or not [14:09] well, the 64-bit kernel will run your 32-bit-only stuff, provided you have 32-bit libs (multilib or chroot) [14:09] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:09] Camarade_Tux: I may do a 3rd tree that way ... but I want a pure 64 tree for sure to be sure things really are working in 64 bit [14:10] Skaperen, that's what I thought ;) [14:11] I'll be testing my setup processes now with -current so I'll be ready to go when -13.0 hits the streets [14:11] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:11] yup [14:11] and I may be able to do some tests before -13.0 too ... under qemu [14:12] Action: Camarade_Tux just imagined people reselling slackware 13 DVDs in the street... [14:12] Action: Skaperen did these 2 installs inside qemu [14:12] on the black market of course >< [14:12] still like the idea of it being called "Slackware XIII" (at least on the CD cover) [14:12] anyway, gotta run to the airport ... *wave* [14:12] oh, I like XIII [14:12] see you [14:13] Action: Skaperen goes afk [14:15] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A77B65.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] fu! [14:15] bar! [14:15] sna $1 [14:16] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:17] burp [14:17] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-137.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Action: Camarade_Tux finally got beer [14:18] mmm beer [14:18] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A77B65.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:18] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [14:18] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:21] chb (n=1000@host81-181-238-85.hiway.at) joined ##slackware. [14:22] one of the reasons I need to drink is because of the pollens :D [14:22] ok, eduke32-20090331 seems to work so far [14:22] that's on 64-bit -current too [14:23] polatov (n=polatov@95.58.13.189) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] tooly (n=theo@e178170200.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [14:32] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [14:35] Pig_Pen, did ur assistance help lasao this morning [14:35] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.57.112.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] kitche2 (n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [14:36] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A77B65.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:36] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [14:37] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:37] slackytude2, lol :D [14:37] :( [14:38] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] heh. They really ought to rename their project, "eduke32" works fine on 64-bit now [14:39] Xinerama...is that the de facto way of dual monitors on laptop? [14:40] Guest147715 (n=your@189.115.112.134) joined ##slackware. [14:40] I need a way for it to dynamic reconfigure [14:40] the xorg [14:40] unless you're using proprietary nvidia drivers, in which case it's called "twinview" [14:40] nod, onboard video so Xinerama it is [14:40] xrandr is what you're probably looking for, then [14:40] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) [14:40] Ah, xrandr [14:41] That's what finally got my TV hooked up to my media PC [14:41] (x)randr is great :) [14:41] nice [14:41] It was a tough week until I found xrandr >_< [14:41] (and the only reason I found it was b/c I simply gave up using the radeon drivers) [14:42] Nick change: Guest147715 -> fel11x [14:42] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:42] I must be getting old, it seems I don't stand beer as much as I used to [14:42] definitely. [14:42] except, aren't you younger than I am? [14:42] I never was able to center the display properly on the TV out on my radeon, a few pixels get cut off on the left edge and there's a 1" tall black band on the bottom [14:42] (not that it really bothers me all that much) [14:43] eviljames, 21 :D [14:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:43] but I've really tired and ill this week ;) [14:43] actually I am trying to cure allergies with alcohol :D [14:43] i don't think you're allowed to complain about being old yet. [14:43] you have to /earn/ that. [14:44] you can complain about being french. lord knows I would... [14:44] but not being old. [14:44] Action: slackytude waves his walking stick [14:44] get of my lawn [14:45] eviljames, I have no problem being french ;) [14:45] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Connection timed out [14:45] slackytude, sorry, don't want to move anymore ;p [14:45] now, back to the code, will probably be funny ;) [14:46] Camarade_Tux, did I mention that I ordered slack 13? [14:46] and a tshirt [14:46] slackytude, nah, I don't think so ;p [14:46] hey slackytude, I heard you preordered slack 13? [14:46] eviljames, yes, in fact, I did [14:46] (otoh I've already drunk 60cl of beer) [14:47] Camarade_Tux, so, now you know [14:47] eviljames, and a tshirt [14:47] And something about a bedsheet sewn together with the slackware logo stapled to it. [14:47] I believe it comes in walrus size :D [14:47] aye [14:47] heh, yeah [14:47] I can jump safely from buildings if I wearit. acts as a parachute [14:47] well, hopefully the opensolaris machine comes back up [14:47] ok, the effect of the 60cl of beer is fading away, I need to drink the remaining 15cl [14:48] that's maybe 2 pints total. drink up, sally. you'll need to have at least a half dozen more [14:48] do a shotgun. [14:49] or, if you have bottles, a newfie shotgun. [14:49] 60 cl wont making me feel nothing [14:49] maybe if you shotgun it. [14:50] tiny amounts of beer that don't make you feel a buzz, can still act as a muscle relaxer (fix your headache or eyestrain temporarily) [14:50] I don't know why these made me a bit drunk, maybe because I hadn't really eaten before, or because I am tired and it's already 9pm [14:50] shotgun ? 60 in few seconds ? [14:50] eviljames, no more beer, but I have arak : it's 54° (or 54%, as you wish) [14:50] excellent! [14:50] that sounds heavy [14:50] yep, no more beer now, burp [14:51] DeeeeP, you usually drink it with water : 1:3 or 1:4 so it goes down to 18 [14:52] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.22.23) joined ##slackware. [14:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:54] Mr_Patterson (i=a1b8ae81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b3afd9f8355e34df) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [14:54] Camarade_Tux, nice! [14:56] hmmm, I should put some water in the fridge too ;) [14:57] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] Wow, this dual monitor tutorial worked REALLY well: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 [14:58] It usually takes me like 2 hours if I wanted to do something... [14:58] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] xrandr --auto ? [14:58] ...there's an auto? [14:58] man xrandr [14:58] :D [14:58] err [14:58] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:58] one sec [14:59] Interesting...I'll try that when I hook my TV up [14:59] does Linux send audio via HDMI? [14:59] Or just video? [14:59] Action: Camarade_Tux has *absolutely* no idea [15:00] Im not sure about HDMI support in linux [15:00] Id like to know tho [15:00] Hakudoshi (i=supergea@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: [15:01] paradello (n=PiAnO@200-100-71-14.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:01] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@200.128.3.100) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:01] http://tinyurl.com/nzk76a [15:04] Camarade_Tux: someone has made a "XXX adult" version of the duke3d highres pack [15:04] Urchlay, you mean the ennemies are naked ? :D [15:04] dunno, it doesn't say and I haven't tried it [15:04] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders how an XXX version of duke nukem could be made [15:05] I bet the various dancer girls in the game are naked [15:05] I've seen the strippers as higher-res [15:05] just 'e' on them and they show you their titties :) [15:05] right [15:05] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't think people would do lips properly so that doesn't change much [15:05] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] Action: Camarade_Tux actually types faster with some alcohol in his blood [15:06] fel11x (n=your@189.115.112.134) left irc: [15:06] also, the HRP is only part of the stuff you add to the game. There's also HQ music and something called "duke plus" included in the windows installer version of the HRP [15:07] (but not in the zip file version) [15:07] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:08] yeah, I noticed there was no intro music and no game music ='( [15:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] I have a theory about that, lemme check it... [15:08] the xxx pack for duke nukem is cool [15:09] antiwire, s, what does it add ? [15:09] antiwire: what's it add/change? [15:09] or removes ? >< [15:09] tits where tits should have been [15:09] lvh (n=lvh@83.101.8.169) left ##slackware. [15:09] I kill them all anyway [15:09] anything scene with girl, there are now tits showing [15:10] it's more erotic than XXX then [15:10] Camarade_Tux: go install the freepats package from SBo. The game's trying to use SDL_mixer's soft MIDI support, which requires samples and /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg to tell it what to use [15:11] (it doesn't actually requite the timidity binaries or libs, just the config file) [15:11] I have timidity anyway [15:11] do you have patches for it? [15:11] I installed it yesterday to play .mod/.xm files, crack musics [15:12] Urchlay, patches for what ? timidity ? why ? [15:12] not code patches... "patches" is the MIDI word for "audio samples" [15:12] IIRC, the timidity package either doesn't come with any, or comes with a minimal set [15:12] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:14] I don't think so [15:15] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-43-76-29.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:17] yep. Install SBo's freepats, then: cd /etc/timidity ; ln -s crude.cfg timidity.cfg [15:17] fire up eduke32 and you'll hear music [15:18] elilo (n=elilo@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [15:20] no, no music [15:21] oh, forgot to installpkg >< [15:21] he [15:23] Nick change: MistrzTS -> Part` [15:24] if you still get no music, it may be looking for /usr/local/lib/timidity/timidity.cfg (old slackware packages of SDL do that) [15:25] strace is probably your friend, in that case :) [15:28] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:28] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] no, no music [15:32] looking for /usr/lib/timidity/timidity.cfg ;) [15:32] road trip [15:33] but also /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg [15:33] hey nix_chix0r, how is it going ? [15:33] pretty good. heading down to minneapolis today [15:33] you [15:33] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [15:34] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:34] Camarade_Tux: well I just did what I said above on slack64-current and it works... what are you running, slamd64 what? [15:35] Urchlay, slamd64 [15:35] nix_chix0r, fine, thanks [15:35] 12.2? [15:35] -current [15:35] which is what, 3 days newer than 12.2? :) [15:35] from March iirc [15:36] anyway you'll figure it out. [15:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] eduke32 uses libSDL_mixer for the soft MIDI audio, which uses the config file and patches from Timidity [15:38] (actually it's probably more correct to say SDL_mixer contains its own statically-linked copy of Timidity) [15:39] kitche2 (n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: "leaving" [15:40] Urchlay, sounds messy [15:41] slackytude: that it is [15:43] why do they even have frequency options for the kernel? i mean wouldn't you want it all to move as fast as possible? [15:43] avenger (n=avenger@189.100.107.187) joined ##slackware. [15:43] isn't that what tickless timing is? [15:43] avenger (n=avenger@189.100.107.187) left ##slackware. [15:44] higher HZ means more CPU gets used by the kernel scheduler itself [15:44] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:44] higher overhead, less times for programms [15:44] antiwire: good question and if someone answers it for you please let me know [15:44] (that's the probably extremely oversimplified explanation I read a while back) [15:44] oh yeah, i'll go ahead and make a reminder to get back to you... [15:45] not. [15:45] you want desktop systems to be responsive,but servers to do the tasks they are already doing more time per slice [15:45] slackytude: ok, so from a bird's eye, wouldn't the middle range settings be perfect unless you're in a special environment? [15:45] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [15:45] e.g. desktop environment? [15:45] dartmouth, all work. [15:45] dartmouth: for the vast majority of applications you'll never notice the difference [15:45] http://kerneltrap.org/node/6750 ... [15:46] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Client Quit [15:46] well yeah; I just see putting that much cpu time in the scheduler to be counterproductive for a desktop environment unless you're running many, many, many apps at the same time [15:46] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:46] but the lower frequency only being ok if you've got a single-purpose server [15:46] is this an accurate view on that setting? [15:46] hmm, tickless = more accurate nanosleep(), wish I'd had that back a couple years ago [15:47] i set tickless for my laptop and desktop [15:47] eons ago I ported an emulator from win32 to linux, the win32 framerate control code was woefully inadequate when run on linux [15:47] it just seems like for a desktop environment putting that frequency all the way up might be like killing a mosquito with a rocket launcher [15:48] in linux 2.4 kernels, usleep()'s granularity is 1/(HZ/2) sec, something like that [15:49] trying to usleep for 16.667 milliseconds, would result in a 20ms delay instead [15:51] hm. Different topic entirely. I have here a windows .exe that's a self-extracting installer. Anyone know how to identify what type of compression is used so I can extract it without running wine? (I already tried unzip and cabextract, no luck with either) [15:51] dartmouth, the higher the frequency the lower the throughput for applications and the lower the battery life [15:51] Urchlay, open the file and hope it has identifiction string [15:51] (a laptop loves 100Hz : easily +15 minutes) [15:51] slackytude: not that I can see, no [15:51] Urchlay, cat file | strings [15:51] yeah, I tried strings already :( [15:51] Action: slackytude shrugs [15:52] Urchlay, tried p7zip ? and file ? [15:52] file just tells me it's a win32 executable [15:52] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-122-247.ip.mhcable.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] also, if you're on windows, you might look at uniextract [15:52] am not on windows, or I wouldn't be trying to do this in the first place :) [15:52] (it's actually a bundle of most extraction tools) [15:52] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] bzlbb (n=b@198.110.10.2) left ##slackware. [15:53] well, have wine ? [15:53] Urchlay, might be uxp [15:53] hmm, what is this uxp of which ye speak? [15:53] also, just bpe'ing or vim'ing it might show you the compression [15:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPX [15:53] Urchlay, compression for executables [15:54] still waiting for vim to load the file :) [15:55] :p [15:55] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:55] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] also, have you tried 'file -k' ? [15:56] hmmm. There's a readable snippet of XML in there that mentions "nullsoft install system" [15:56] ah, nullsoft installer [15:56] they are nice [15:56] opensource too iirc [15:57] "file -k" tells me nothing further... [15:57] Urchlay, you might try extracting it with p7zip then [15:58] slackytude, but annoying as hell : 7zip used to extract the installer script file but the community complained about that and now it doesn't extract it anymore, silly [15:58] p7zip has been compiling for a few minutes now... [15:58] Camarade_Tux, never tried fancy stuff like that. I just wrap my python stuff with nullsoft [15:59] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Urchlay, yeah, it's awful [15:59] slackytude, sooner or later you'll end up using my still-to-be-written package manager ;p [15:59] Camarade_Tux, heh, maybe [16:00] Action: Camarade_Tux grabs ice from the fridge, drinks a bit more and will probably go to bed [16:00] slackytude, ;p [16:00] at 22:00 ? [16:00] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-122-247.ip.mhcable.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:00] yeah, was really tired but only slept for 7 hours [16:00] paradello (n=PiAnO@200-100-71-14.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: "use linux and discovery the universe. ;)   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [16:00] and I wanted to code but haven't been able to because I was too tired =/ [16:01] only 7 hours? your head barely touched the sheets then [16:01] hmmm, so, even if p7zip itself can't extract it, I probably can search for a 7zip header myself? [16:01] Im completely useless without my 16 hours [16:02] anyway, goodnight Camarade_Tux [16:02] slackytude, lol ;) [16:02] Action: Urchlay is thankful for ccache [16:04] yeppers, "7z l file.exe" shows me the contents [16:04] I still think there ought to be an easier way than "try each decompressor one at a time until you find one that works" [16:05] -> uniextract :P [16:05] on linux? [16:05] no :D [16:05] but I guess trid could be used on windows and then you'd get the filetype [16:06] anyway this .exe was the all-in-one duke3d HRP installer [16:07] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [16:08] haha :p [16:08] you know, I had it extracted on my hard drive ;p [16:08] yeah but I'm doing it up as a slackbuild for SBo [16:08] step one of the installation can't just be "ask Camarade_Tux to send you a copy of the extracted files" :) [16:08] any vim experts here [16:09] #vim [16:09] init[1]: probably. I'm pretty good with it, what's your question? [16:09] aw, if I can spend an hour ranting about duke nukem 3d in ##slackware, this guy can ask a vim question, fair is fair :) [16:09] Urchlay: i need to change the color of operators , i mean operators are part of statements by default [16:10] Urchlay, can I answer with "meh" ? :p [16:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426562.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:10] for example if you if you try the desert color scheme [16:10] on a .c file [16:10] init[1]: oh, you're asking about gvim, not plain textmode vim? [16:10] Action: Urchlay doesn't use or know anything about gvim, sorry [16:10] but syntax highlighting is part of vim [16:11] arn't they [16:11] yeah but I'm pretty sure "desert color scheme" isn't part of textmode vim [16:11] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection timed out [16:11] Urchlay: assume any scheme it doesn't matter [16:11] afaiu, you want to look into /usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax [16:12] hjjkl (n=xdhd@238.131.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:12] honestly, the way I change the colors is by editing the files under /usr/share/vim, which is the wrong way [16:12] hi [16:12] afaik, vim has two schemes : one for bright backgrounds and one for darker ones, you can define the colours for one or for the other and then vim choses, depending on the theme [16:12] netinstalla of slackware12.2 ????????????????????? [16:12] (and I haven't had to change any of the colors in like 5+ years, so I can't remember details now...) [16:12] netinstalla of slackware12.2 ????????????????????? [16:13] hjjkl: cut it out [16:13] i explaind the situation . see if you apply any default vim scheme on a .c file you will notice that none of hte operators are highlighted [16:13] what? [16:13] don't repeat yourself like that... [16:13] not netinstall ?? [16:13] we heard you the first time [16:14] ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_PXE.TXT [16:14] (net install, see?) [16:14] Urchlay: did you get me . [16:14] :) [16:15] init[1]: yeah... you sure the operators aren't highlighted at all? or are they maybe just highlighted in the same color as the default color happens to be? [16:15] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:15] init[1], then you probably want to change c.vim in /usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax [16:15] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Camarade_Tux: im on my way ... to it :) thanks.. brb [16:16] [Urchlay] [16:16] español? [16:16] alguno habla español [16:16] ? [16:16] hjjkl, si [16:16] hjjkl : english [16:16] hjjkl: speak english [16:16] hjjkl, pero este es un canal para hablar en eingles [16:16] no hablo espanol, sorry :( [16:16] #slackware-es [16:17] #slackware-br [16:17] -br is portugese I thought? [16:17] [LnxSlck] [16:17] sabes si hay netinstall [16:17] de la 12.2 [16:17] Urchlay, yeah, higher chance of spanish speaking people than here tho [16:17] hjjkl, si lo hay [16:18] hjjkl: README_PXE.TXT + babelfish (or "google translations") [16:18] ? [16:18] no lo encuentro en la web ocicial [16:18] me puedes pasar un link [16:18] dammit, I almost understand that [16:18] hjjkl, slackware.com [16:18] hjjkl: google tarnsilation [16:18] kjalil (n=kjaleel@kerneljack.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:19] init[1], he's asking for a netinstall for slackware [16:19] [LnxSlck] [16:19] no lo encuentro en la web [16:19] yeah, we got that much at least (hence the reference to README_PXE.TXT) [16:19] LnxSlck: yep figured it now , when you said it lol [16:19] solo sale los cds y dvd [16:19] init[1], lol [16:20] v4nelle (n=van@adsl91-196.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:21] como se dice "LOL" en espanol? [16:21] kjalil (n=kjaleel@217.33.138.50) joined ##slackware. [16:21] ooooooooooo [16:22] xDD [16:22] kekekeke [16:22] [LnxSlck] [16:22] me dices el link [16:22] well, I think I drank enough and can go to bed now :) [16:22] de donde bajarme el netistall [16:22] o k? [16:23] hey se puede hablar Inglés hjjkl [16:24] no se ingles [16:24] hjjkl: /j #slackware-es [16:24] not users [16:25] netinstall salckware12.2 [16:25] link??? [16:25] link dowload [16:25] ????? [16:25] Action: Urchlay confiscates hjjkl's ? key [16:25] hjjkl: mi equipo transilate su idioma | hjjkl netinstall is part of initial setup [16:25] hjjkl, check slackware mirror site [16:26] [16:26] hjjkl: utilizar Google [16:26] actually it's a fair question: is there any project to translate all those lovely Slackware docs into other languages? [16:27] Urchlay: we can use google transilage :) [16:27] *ate [16:27] copy paste transilate :) [16:27] I mean if readme_pxe were in spanish I'd have a bitch of a time trying to follow it [16:27] Google does a fair job on most latin-based languages <--> English, IME. For others, it's a crapshoot. [16:27] english is the lingua franca [16:28] heh, and watch the machine translation mangle the commands/arguments... [16:28] That does happen. [16:29] I'd volunteer to help with a translation project, except the results of me translating english to anything would be much worse than machine translations were 10 years ago... [16:32] where I can unload salckware12.2 netinstall [16:33] Urchlay: for you http://pastebin.com/m108cb00b [16:33] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:33] eh, yeah [16:34] Did you understand ? Urchlay [16:34] no mistake . [16:34] wow [16:34] you ran readme_pxe through google translate, right? so I can't read it... but hjjkl probably can [16:35] hjjkl: ttp://pastebin.com/m108cb00b [16:35] for you [16:35] Urchlay: may be not sure but its not 100% right [16:35] it does mangle commands and config file stuff, someone figure out how to explain that to him in spanish? [16:36] (I mean if he's somewhat experienced, he'll know it already, but I'm assuming he's not...) [16:36] :) [16:36] where I can unload salckware12.2 netinstall [16:36] donde bajo el netinstall [16:36] hjjkl: u mean download [16:36] no es tan dificil joder [16:36] dowload netinstall????????????????????? [16:37] hjjkl: what did you meant by unload [16:37] siiiiiiiiiiiiii [16:37] hjjkl: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [16:37] yessssssss [16:38] download those follow instruction in there , use USB to boot remaining the installer will help you [16:39] not found [16:39] usb NOOOOOOOOOOOO [16:39] netinstall iso [16:39] no usb [16:39] hjjkl: see listen [16:39] pxe es netinstall [16:39] netinstall iso? none for slackware, that would be a cool feature [16:39] withing the installer there is an option to download form net [16:39] nit[1] ¦ hjjkl: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [16:40] not found [16:40] eh, can the standard iso not do at least NFS net installs? [16:40] sure [16:40] web not found [16:40] this is crazy [16:40] ftp and http too I thought [16:40] yeah, but there is no net install iso like debian has [16:40] ftp/smb-cifs/http/nfs [16:40] why? the default one does it [16:40] Pig_Pen: we can mmake use of usb to boot and download it right [16:40]      LnxSlck [16:41] slackytude: yes [16:41] traduceme para k lo entiendan joder [16:41] hjjkl: did u get me [16:41] you could follow the isolinux/ docs, but leave out the actual package directories [16:41] no te kedes hay parao [16:41] you get default slack cd and point it to a mirror [16:42] ugly, slow but should work [16:42] hjjkl, tenta #slackware-es [16:42] i guess so, i never done it like that, seems like you would have to jump through some hoops, but a net install ISO like debian's that lets you choose from the faster mirrors would be cool [16:42] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ get it from there [16:42] what would be cool would be a slack cd wich allows you to torrent the package sets [16:43] Netinstall can also mean: install from a FTP, HTTP or NFS server. The Slackware installer supports all of these [16:43] slackytude: by that time i would hav had my grandson [16:43] init[1], for torrent? [16:43] when a new slackware release gets out i usually just torrent a DVD, and let it seed for a few days before i stop and do the install myself [16:43] slackytude: yes indeed , well v hav a slow connection here [16:44] init[1], torrent is fastest for me [16:44] Pig_Pen, same here [16:44] slackytude::) [16:46] btw if i have my dvd why should i go for an HTTP or FTP download [16:46] you wont need to [16:47] Is that option within the installer required [16:47] usb and pxe make sense but on cd/dvds [16:47] you could use a single dvd and have netinstaller run on sseveral machines [16:48] ooh,that mean for a local mirror [16:48] yeah [16:48] slackware is wise . [16:48] :) [16:48] network installs are most useful for machines that don't (or can't) have a cd-rom or dvd drive [16:49] network install [16:49] slackware12.2 [16:49] ???????????? [16:49] hjjkl, yes [16:49] Urchlay: what i meant was on the CD/DVD installer hav an option for HTTP / FTP download [16:49] yeah [16:50] hjjkl: if you could just try to ask a question that we can understand you would get an answer [16:50] hjjkl: see download the usb installer its really small [16:50] and boot it [16:50] there will be an option to download it from mirror [16:51] hjjkl: ver descargar el instalador de su usb realmente pequeño [16:51] The|Back| (n=backdoor@vc-41-24-148-114.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [16:51] de arranque y que habrá una opción de descargarlo del espejo [16:51] it would be faster if you had the contents of slackware install files on a harddrive and use that cd/dvd to install from that harddrive [16:51] usb noooooo [16:51] netinstal iso [16:52] hjjkl, no iso [16:52] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [16:52] no? [16:52] no [16:52] hjjkl: this is not debian , [16:52] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.57.220) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:53] hjjkl: you don't have a usb drive , man thats most easy way to do net install [16:53] heh. Anyone ever try to install slackware over a PLIP connection? [16:54] heh [16:54] no [16:54] me either. Did it with debian once, eons ago, to get it installed on one of those IBM "portable" PCs [16:55] that must really be eons ago [16:55] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.59.233) joined ##slackware. [16:55] 2.0 or 2.2 kernel days anyway [16:55] days of lore [16:55] console-only system on a 386 [16:58] hjjkl: if you need a small CD ISO that has only the installer and no packages at all (can be used with a netinstall from a ftp,http,nfs server) you can try this ISO for Slackware 12.2 : http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackboot/mini/12.2/ [16:59] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:59] I was trying to remeber systems on 386 that weren console-only [16:59] slackytude: first Slackware install I ever saw saw running xfree86 on a 386 [16:59] including netscape 3.0 [16:59] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] heh [16:59] alienBOB: did you make that just now ? [16:59] ye gods, netscape 3 [17:00] Urchlay, xfree86 was crap [17:00] in retrospect [17:00] makes xorg crap too then, it's a fork of xf86... [17:00] PS:I love localmirror scipt :) [17:00] well, yeah [17:00] in many wasy it is [17:00] fair enough [17:01] just the best crap we have [17:01] I mean I like it [17:01] could be worse [17:01] but there might be something that comes along next year that blows it out of the water, I dunno [17:04] Urchlay: even after seting "syn keyword cOperator *" in the /usr/..vim/,,/c.vim there seem no effect [17:04] oi! there beer truck is here [17:05] the * part, isn't that meant to be a regex? (ought to be \* maybe?) [17:05] Urchlay: that is meant for match part .. we first have to define the kewords [17:05] eh, OK [17:06] hjjkl (n=xdhd@238.131.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:06] I haven't looked at doing anything fancy with vim syntax in a good long while [17:06] breznak lager [17:06] :( [17:06] once upon a time I did my own syntax file for 6502 assembly source [17:07] The|Back| (n=backdoor@vc-41-24-148-114.umts.vodacom.co.za) left irc: [17:07] btw an syntax that doesn't highlight the operators is bit strange [17:07] tell us your story of glory, old man [17:07] *a [17:07] slackytude: get off my lawn! [17:07] lol [17:08] estreLa (n=vzqnp@201-67-95-129.gnace704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Leaving" [17:09] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86-46-225-228-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-28-150.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] slackytude: get off our channel!.... err [17:13] kjalil (n=kjaleel@217.33.138.50) left irc: "leaving" [17:14] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) joined ##slackware. [17:15] it's time to kickass and chew bubble gum [17:16] agreed [17:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426562.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:17] hey, Do any of you people have the Google Earth Pro version setup? [17:18] no [17:18] i just installed the 5 [17:18] the free version, it's great [17:18] same here, and yeah it rocks [17:18] you can see mars [17:18] nice [17:19] I can use gpsbabel to convert my GPS tracks and waypoints into a google earth kml,kmz, or xml format so I can import them into google earth [17:20] wow [17:20] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.57.112.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:20] now that's trully awesome [17:20] at our university a master student build this multi touch table (kind of likeMS surface) which is nifty. he showed us google earth with that. really nice [17:20] it's nice because even though my gps unit is older, the ability to import my tracks and waypoints really means that the gps unit doesn't mater too much [17:21] since you can use google earth and other FOSS tools [17:21] matter* [17:21] slackytude: it's such a perfect use for multitouch too [17:22] aye [17:22] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] I felt like the dude in that movie where they have that touchscreen wall [17:23] But not quite as good as having projected stuff like Minority Report? [17:23] yeah Minority report [17:23] not quite as good, no [17:24] altho, they was this huge 3D demo, with a screen that shows perspectiv correct 3d objects, which is apparently a bugger to get right [17:24] could view it from any angle and whatnot [17:25] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [17:26] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:32] the table costs around 4.000 euro [17:32] material costs that is [17:32] I want one of those [17:34] euro's are overrated [17:35] is it possible to remap alt-f1 to a single key in X? [17:37] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0264B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:37] hm? [17:39] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] mtl (i=mtl@pox.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:40] paradello (n=PiAnO@200-100-71-84.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:41] http://technabob.com/blog/2009/04/29/somniloquy-usb-stick/ [17:45] antiwire [17:45] that is old, like charters network [17:45] ok, and? [17:46] charter sucks/? [17:46] what does Charter have to do with this anyway? [17:47] and for that matter why don't you define what 'old' means in your sentence [17:47] i heard about that a year ago [17:47] oh...so you're talking about your own context [17:48] Action: jeev wonders what crawled up antiwire's butt last night [17:48] Action: antiwire wonders why someone needs to first address me on one line and then send some bating statement on a separate line [17:49] I'll take a wild guess here and assume that many people in this channel, myself included, have not seen that device yet. [17:49] Action: jeev wonders why antiwire is broadcasting his wonders rather than directly pointing at me [17:50] why did you do the same thing and then try to call me out on it? [17:50] that's silly [17:50] you said someone! [17:50] mmhmm... [17:52] and you first sent a line with just my nick, and then sent a second line with no clear addressing. I was able to figure out that you were still trying to type to me just as you were able to figure out that my /action was directed at you... [17:52] isn't that interesting how that works? [17:52] true [17:52] but i was aiming at you [17:52] yours wasn't good [17:52] you need to work on it [17:53] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [17:53] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [17:54] you should probably work keeping the nick you wish to address on the same line as the text you wish to tell the person [17:54] work keeping ? [17:54] hey guys [17:54] work on [17:54] compl3x, dont talk to antiwire, he had a bat go up his bum!! [17:54] wtf. [17:54] compl3x: i don't know either. [17:55] yea [17:55] i know [17:55] antiwire: perhaps hes suggesting your that way inclined [17:55] can you clarify that sentence? [17:56] antiwire: `gay` [17:56] lol [17:57] heh. with modern shells you're supposed to write that as $( gay ) [17:57] Action: compl3x thought it was ${ gay } [17:57] that's bash-specific I think... the $() stuff is POSIX [17:57] I don't know how a small flying mammal flying up someones ass makes them happy but whatever [17:57] Action: Urchlay still uses `backticks` a lot [17:58] you know, just in case my shell scripts fall thru a time warp, and somebody at AT&T back in 1977 wants to try to run them... [17:58] hey, it could happen [17:58] better be prepared [17:58] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:59] yeah [17:59] if I ever travel back in time, Ill build my own empire [17:59] actually make that berkeley. If they end up at AT&T, nobody would run them due to NIH syndrome [17:59] and rule it with an iron fist [17:59] lol [17:59] antiwire, you hear that ? [17:59] jeev: i sure do [17:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] it's the worlds smallest violin [18:00] Played by the worlds smallest man [18:00] lol [18:00] the chinese guy [18:00] rofl [18:00] jeev: did you build it yourself? [18:01] nop [18:01] did you mean 'nope' ? [18:01] nop [18:01] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.244.193.178) left irc: "The universe is not real, only possible." [18:02] each "nop" wastes 2 machine cycles... [18:02] 2? [18:03] i'm about to nop sled jeev [18:03] eh, on the 6502, yes. No idea on modern stuff... [18:03] heh [18:03] no idea meself [18:03] maybe he will overwrite his typing buffer and crash [18:03] if I ever come up with a useful reason to write asm code on a modern system I'll know [18:03] but probably too small to care about [18:04] considering the frequency of todays systems [18:04] if you need to count single cycles on a 2+ GHz system, you have big problems [18:04] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:05] slackytude: or you're writing your own BIOS replacement [18:05] EvilMatt (n=matthew@cpe-75-84-182-112.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:05] hello [18:05] (I guess that's the same thing as "big problems" though) [18:05] greetings firebird619 [18:05] i have lilo and i want to change to grub.. but i have no experiance with grub.. can anyone help me out? [18:05] Urchlay, heh, yeah [18:05] oh and im running slack 12.1 [18:05] greetings slackytude, how are you? [18:05] hey firebird619 [18:05] speakin' of grub. /me goes to make a burrito [18:05] firebird619, doing fine,thx. how about you? [18:05] hey compl3x, how are you? [18:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:05] EvilMatt: you can find official grub packages on the install media in extra [18:05] good firebird619 yourself? [18:06] EvilMatt: there are some documents in there too [18:06] slackytude: doing great, thanks. just got home. The weather is just perfect today, couldn't be better. [18:06] ok [18:06] compl3x: doing great, thanks. :) [18:06] firebird619, had a nice day here today as well [18:06] EvilMatt: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/extra/grub/ [18:06] EvilMatt: just start there and ask in here if you find a specific issue you need help with [18:07] alright, thank you :) [18:07] good luck ;) [18:07] what is better.. grub or grub2? [18:07] lilo is better [18:08] well i like lilo.. but i want to use the neat backgrounds and stuff with grub [18:10] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [18:11] hm, BBQ and black bean burrito [18:12] neat backgrounds? How long do you spend looking at the bootloader, that you care what it looks like? [18:12] IceW (n=old-time@201-13-60-31.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:13] I suppose one could show it off to non-linux users [18:13] haha I was just thinking that [18:13] that is the only reason I could think of [18:13] exactly, i want to show it off to my friends and my dad.. so i can try and convert them [18:13] by showing them just how awesome it is [18:14] I'm not too sure about this but maybe showing them the running operating system would be better than some bootloader image [18:14] i have a lovely red square lilo bootloader ;p [18:14] i'd like to show em from start to finnish [18:15] doesnt lilo has a nice backgorund? [18:15] show them how awesome it is in that it does not crash or get infected with malware or viruses, maybe a nice desktop wallpaper [18:15] I kinda like that slackware thing lilo shows [18:16] Pretty much says it all right there ;) [18:16] i hope Pat puts that flippy logo in to the next slackware release bootloader just to piss off the people that bitched about it [18:17] The Slackware lilo bitmap was not present in Slackware 12.1 iirc [18:17] estreLa (n=vzqnp@201-67-95-129.gnace704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "CyberScript - O único script testado e aprovado pelo INmetro (www.cyberscript.org)" [18:17] also, lilo can show animated backgrounds and even games [18:17] http://www.gamers.org/~quinet/lilo/ [18:18] alienBOB, ah, I see [18:18] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] EvilMatt, check the link if you want lilo to play breakout [18:18] lol [18:18] breakout on lilo? [18:18] thats cool [18:19] Pig_Pen: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slacknew.bmp [18:19] For use with lilo [18:19] yeah! thats the one :) [18:20] all those people that got their pantys in a bunch over a logo [18:21] I don't mind the simple black boot screen in 12.2 [18:21] but animated? umm. [18:22] Action: compl3x doesnt have a long enough delay on lilo to bother with stupid graphics [18:22] It's good slackware is so stable that the only thing the users have to bitch about is a logo. [18:22] how would i make my own animated lilo boot screen? [18:22] you have a point there XGizzmo_ [18:22] I used to have that panguin lilo thing on my machine [18:22] other than the occasional noob that cant figure something out [18:23] EvilMatt, iirc, it uses some ugly language to define animations. cant remeber [18:23] or something brings something incredibly complicated that we can't figure out [18:23] EvilMatt, check the source [18:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] i dont see any source... [18:26] EvilMatt, http://www.gamers.org/~quinet/lilo/penguins.config [18:26] that is for penguins [18:27] nice,eh? [18:28] you got to have a hacked up lilo to use that. [18:28] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:28] that isnt the source tho... [18:28] thats just for a penguins [18:29] I guess you check the page [18:29] s/guess/suggest [18:29] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-137.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [18:31] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] fu! [18:33] that would be as far as i would go with it, have some penguins walking around like Amor in kdetoys [18:33] EvilMatt (n=matthew@cpe-75-84-182-112.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [18:37] pig [18:38] Zordrak: ping? [18:40] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:41] the Good, Bad & Ugly is on TCM [18:41] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] good flick [18:41] Shuren (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:42] yeah, i like those old spaghetti westerns [18:42] any yanni fans ? [18:43] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [18:43] yanni? [18:44] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:44] yes [18:44] what the hell is yanni? [18:44] :O [18:44] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:44] he is gone! [18:44] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [18:45] it's a he? [18:45] slackytude, ever use nickserv? lol [18:45] thumbs, yanni. [18:45] elite songs [18:45] jeev: oh, I don't listen to commercial music [18:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U79esEAO7kk [18:46] man he's newage, beautiful music [18:46] Action: compl3x 's eye keeps twitching [18:46] not singing crap [18:46] yanni? [18:46] listen to it. [18:46] wtf [18:46] antiwire, wtf. [18:46] jeev: you really do need help. [18:46] how so [18:46] i play all his song son piano [18:46] songs on piano [18:46] intervention time. [18:46] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] platypus571 (n=robert@12-227-137-121.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:46] he looks like a hippie from 1972 [18:46] paradello (n=PiAnO@200-100-71-84.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:47] thumbs, i dont look at him in awe [18:47] i like the music. [18:47] i'm not a homosesikal [18:47] good to know:) [18:47] hi hitest [18:47] where did the homosexual thing come from? [18:48] cause you guys are talking about his looks [18:48] hi firebird619:) [18:48] jeev: do you blast yanni while you scan for ISP for MAC addresses? [18:48] rock on. [18:48] fuck yea antiwire [18:48] i have more of charters customers macs than they have [18:49] charter actually did a huge security sweep, i heard there are technicians that sell modems for 200 bux, "lifetime" [18:49] they just put it in the system [18:49] i guess they all got cut off [18:49] good [18:49] yea screw those turds [18:49] i wish fios was in my area [18:49] that means less assholes are stealing bandwidth that normal people are forced to pay for. [18:49] jeev: after a minute of it, it's enough. [18:49] thumbs, forward past the awesome armenian violinist [18:50] listen to the actual music [18:50] the prelude was just something they played before. [18:50] godattach (n=user@unaffiliated/godattach) joined ##slackware. [18:50] listen to the entire thing when it begins [18:50] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [18:50] i copied the dvd contents to c:/slackware on my xp partition (/dev/sda1) of my eeepc 1000he but setup can't find it [18:50] jeev: I did like Lorrena some years ago [18:51] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] jeev: this is not like it, tho. [18:51] Loreena, rather [18:51] ntfs? [18:51] yes [18:51] start over! [18:51] fail [18:52] Pig_Pen: start over how? [18:52] i am not even sure fat32 will work [18:52] dunno [18:52] jeev: I'd rather have *some* lyrics [18:52] move it to a fat32 or linux partition [18:52] no way, listen to Live at the Acropolis [18:52] it's the greatest concert of all time [18:52] antiwire, i have u-verse in kmy area [18:52] i'll try moving it to the partition i'm installing to [18:52] jeev: my parents have u-verse [18:52] jeev: not my cup of tea [18:53] antiwire, they like it ? [18:53] i would get it except thta it doesn't have the armenian and foreign channels [18:53] jeev: they do yes, but as far as i can tell you're forced to use their router [18:53] only charter carries it [18:53] which does not work for me [18:53] are you serious heh [18:53] stupid [18:54] kaoruko (n=nickls@94-169-110-207.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:54] jeev: the at&t u-verse router does all the work; the voip, the tv feed, the internet feed...all internally [18:54] oh [18:54] how about fios [18:54] I have a client with FIOS and it seems like he is also forced to use their router too [18:54] verizon [18:55] i'm not totally sure on the FIOS though [18:55] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] kaoruko (n=nickls@94-169-110-207.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [18:55] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [18:55] damn [18:55] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:56] if i cant use pfsense [18:56] i dont want it [18:56] jeev: see, this is good for movies. [18:56] jeev: I am not sure I'd sit down on a Sunday afternoon and listen to it [18:56] jeev: there, I gave it a full, honest listen [18:57] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] jeev: same here but I use linux as my border router. That's really the only reason I stick with cable (standard DHCP setup) [18:58] Pig_Pen: I exited setup and mounted the partition from the installer and ran setup again, using the install from pre-mounted partition option works [18:58] i love it [18:58] it's great music man [18:58] i can listen to it all day [18:58] and i listen to rap, everything else [18:58] classical [18:58] jeev: not my cup of tea. [18:58] piano for 20 years now [18:58] since i was a wee baby [18:59] that would explain it [18:59] Schroeder (i=1000@unaffiliated/unclejimbob) joined ##slackware. [19:01] How can I tell if alsasound service is started? [19:01] Hey lf4 [19:01] hey firebird619 How are you doing? [19:01] doing great, thanks. you? [19:02] I'm doing alright lol just getting tired of work. :P [19:02] firebird619: What are you doing this weekend? [19:03] nothing much, just got back home a little while ago. Weather is perfect today. [19:03] ok jumperboy i will remember that, i dont have windows except for an old laptop, [19:03] Thats great to hear, its nice as well in the valle> [19:04] lf4: you in california? [19:04] jumperboy, you are too aren't you? [19:04] antiwire: nope lol UT [19:04] ah [19:05] CA would be nice :) [19:05] lf4: hehe crowded but it's ok [19:05] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:05] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:05] lf4: for people from California 'the valley' usually refers to San Fernando valley aka SFV [19:06] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] Yeah I use to live there sorry I for got to say SLV [19:07] california owns you all [19:08] California pwns itself [19:08] in july [19:08] California rocks when everything is working properly but also fails epically when things turn down a bit [19:09] they need to revamp city employees [19:09] in los angeles [19:09] california is broke for all the socialist policies, and the rest of the country is falling in to the same trap, (not excusing the republicns) but the far left is not the answer [19:09] i'm registering everything in nevada at the end of this year [19:10] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02A2E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] i think the country would be in a lot better shape if they limited medical and medicine costs [19:10] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] i think by far that's the root of the problems [19:11] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:12] Nick change: pizdets -> pizzledizzle [19:13] anyone dual-booting with XP? should i set my clock to local time or UTC? both OS's will be using ntp, but XP will be shared with other users [19:14] i haven't dual booted since windows 98 [19:14] local, I think [19:14] thumbs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ork0msQ_o&feature=related [19:14] jumperboy: I just use local time for each OS [19:15] jumperboy: i sync to the ntp pool: pool.ntp.org [19:15] antiwire: me too [19:15] doesnt everybody [19:15] slackytude: well no, because that's the whole pool. you can use any single server you want though [19:15] altho I sometimes microsoft timeserver, just for kicks [19:16] like NIST [19:16] ntp.nasa.gov baby [19:16] I've also used my handheld GPS as my time feed for ntpd [19:17] godattach (n=user@unaffiliated/godattach) left irc: [19:18] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-24-126-175-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] pidgin security fix isnt in the topic! [19:18] jeev: not in the mood for classical music, sorry [19:19] i am! [19:19] Action: thumbs puts on house music instead [19:19] there needs to be a balance in politics & socialist policies, too far to the left and it is just marxist communism and the gov gets too big and powerful, too far to the right and you get rich greedy corporations getting away with too many tax writeoffs while paying off corrupt government officials, [19:19] jeev> hello zionist [19:20] sup chowabunga, hail to palestinian land [19:20] thumbs, http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/paternoster-cellosuites1/ [19:21] first song, it's on that movie soundtrack [19:21] jamie fox [19:21] Pig_Pen: You do realize corporations don't pay taxes people do. [19:21] see, I like that. [19:21] yanni is elite though [19:22] Pig_Pen, that government gets big and powerful [19:22] jeev: yanni is not in the same league as classical music, in my opinion [19:22] you know, i'd rather have the government be big and powerful rather than a few rich people. [19:22] jeev: hey btw, what were you doing with this scans anyway? [19:22] antiwire, used to be snmp. [19:22] all their communities are the same [19:22] jeev, then you should study history more [19:22] but things have changed [19:22] i said yanni is ELITE [19:22] i didnt say it was classical [19:22] infact, i said it's new age [19:23] antiwire, used to snmp thorugh their public Ip block and the modem would respond [19:23] but it looks like it's fixed [19:23] corporations need to pay taxes, before ronald regan they did pay taxes, now the biggest burden of the tax is on the middle class, it needs to be balanced out where no class of person or corporation can get away without paying a share of taxes [19:23] that depends on what you mean by ELITE [19:23] now in the private block, only VOIP responds [19:23] elite.. #1 ;D [19:23] jeev: surely you must know that tastes are personal. [19:23] Where do corporations get the money that they pay for taxes? [19:24] true [19:24] from people [19:24] money isnt real [19:24] monies [19:24] get a clue [19:24] here we go [19:24] look, the root of all the problems is the health industry [19:24] plain and simple [19:24] everything is a business in the u.s., even medicine, people are always sick, cant afford medicine [19:24] doctors are too expensive, everything is expensive, health insurance [19:24] the medicine makes you sick usually [19:24] exactly chopp. [19:24] chowabunga. [19:24] the money is in the treatment not the cure [19:25] if health care wasn't so expensive, all the unions wouldn't have as big as problems [19:25] personally i am ready to abandon the usa and move to a deserted island and live in a bamboo hut Gilligan's island style, now all i need is a couple of chics like a farm girl from kansas and a sexy movie starlette [19:25] but unions shouldn't have that much power. [19:25] jeev keep me tf out of this. :P [19:25] kamaji (n=kamaji@137.222.233.63) left irc: Excess Flood [19:25] lol [19:25] Pig_Pen, sound plab [19:25] Pig_Pen: Now thats a plan :) [19:25] chopp, never. [19:25] Pig_Pen, sound plan [19:25] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:25] jeev> i may design a site for creating citizens unions [19:25] chowabunga, i'll host it [19:25] hehe [19:25] get 200 people to band together an buy healthcare [19:26] as a group ? [19:26] for cheap...doesnt really solve the problem [19:26] how much cheaper is it [19:26] well you could bargain [19:26] if you had enough people, so someone will take the offer [19:26] maybe [19:26] jeev: and how did you play piano with one hand? [19:26] would work for anything, not just insurance [19:26] you'd be considered a cult [19:26] chopp, the other hand was on your moms ass! [19:26] IceW (n=old-time@201-13-60-31.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [19:27] jeev: because I'm darn sure you had a crack pipe in the other. [19:27] teehee [19:27] in an insane world...the sanest are called insane [19:27] yea [19:27] the people who talk out [19:27] thats why i want to abandon the usa because the government cant get its act together, for a few years it is a nationalist bunch of corporate warmongers and the next few years it is a socialist commie utopia, no balance no common sense [19:28] the people who know physics and such :P [19:28] Pig_Pen, you cant blame the government [19:28] the people are stupid [19:28] that's why. [19:28] as long as politicians can take advantage of moron people, they'll do it [19:28] governments are irrelevant [19:28] my friend is in nigeria right now, he was born there [19:28] I knew you'd figure out some way to spin this into some creationist vs. science spiel. [19:28] its the think tanks dummy [19:28] he says that the government there gives people bullshit contrracts [19:28] and the people give them half back [19:28] Action: jumperboy is booting slackware on his netbook for the first time :) [19:29] congrats jumperboy [19:29] jeev> did you watch Richard Gage's talk? [19:29] blueprint for truth [19:30] i think you are right jeev the gov has everybody fat and stupid so they can take advantage of it [19:30] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-50.dial.telus.net) left irc: "bye" [19:30] thats the media and pharmaceutical/food industry actually [19:30] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:30] but they are all connected [19:30] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:31] im not fat and stupid though [19:31] exbio (n=exi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [19:31] they have us paralyzed with information overload and shiny things and toxins [19:31] you guys would be a whole lot cooler if you just called this what you all want to...Illuminati [19:31] chowabunga: you saying your just one of those? [19:32] i am just a little bit fat and just a tiny bit stupid, but i have enough sense to see what is happening, too bad not enough people see it [19:32] lol [19:32] lf4> !(fat && stupid) [19:33] Pleuguin (n=Pleuguin@ACaen-251-1-8-27.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Pig_Pen> its pretty much in your face [19:33] Ahh :) thats good chowabunga haha [19:33] i am not afraid of facing the truth about what is going on [19:33] "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." [19:33] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] chowabunga is on a roll :D [19:35] International Institutions and Global Governance Program World Order in the 21st Century A New Initiative of the Council on Foreign Relations [19:35] zGhost (i=ninjazac@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [19:35] yeah, we haven't quite hit our 'cliche of the day' quota yet [19:35] ah council of foreign relations [19:35] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] also read UN Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius, Rebuilding America's Defenses, limits to growth, global 2000, etc etc [19:36] etcccc [19:36] good to see you did your homework on conspiracy theories [19:37] if i was younger i would keep a stash of cash and a motorcycle just in case i want to leave the usa, go to south amercia (i hope you can go to south america via mexico & central amercia) [19:37] their plan is all in the open [19:37] i think a boat or plane would be more practical [19:38] yeah of course, so the airforce or coast guard can just scuttle you [19:38] internet 911 false flag attack is coming soon people [19:38] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02A2E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:39] what people dont get is the whole internet could crash, and the only thing you will miss is your email and pr0n :D [19:39] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:39] Ordo Ab Chao [19:39] Pig_Pen, agreed [19:39] Pig_Pen, Id miss the porn tho [19:39] ok this is so much BS even I can't take it anymore. Back later [19:39] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [19:39] :P [19:39] Pig_Pen: I wouldn't miss my email [19:39] we'd be back in the stone age [19:40] cool with me [19:40] thats like burning the library of alexandria [19:40] shit happens [19:40] after google has accumulated all the data [19:40] i delete more spam than i get in value of good email, the spam is relentless, i think it will be a relief to lose my email account [19:40] if you have will power, refuse to use the internet for a week [19:40] i did it [19:41] i could do it, watch TV or listen to the radio [19:41] i didnt do either of those :) [19:41] read a book [19:42] i used to be a book worm for so long that i got burnt out on books [19:42] Nick change: Pleuguin -> Pleuguin{away} [19:42] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:42] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] I used to play video games but I quit, because it was taking up a lot of my time. [19:42] i should take up riding my bicycle more [19:43] learn to produce something [19:44] i cant grow much of a garden, the ground here is too rocky, so rocky that i get my corn in a jar [19:45] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [19:45] moonshine joke [19:45] corny [19:45] dig down just about 6 inches and you hit solid bedrock [19:45] so you build a mound [19:46] yeah [19:46] start composting and such [19:46] build a solar still for like 20 bucks [19:46] or free [19:46] Anyone have any video games they can recommend? [19:47] zGhost> nethack [19:47] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) left ##slackware. [19:47] i have an PS2 game console, i like Call of duty3 and medal of honor vanguard also GTA vice city/san andreus/ 4 [19:47] 3* [19:47] t-o-m-e [19:49] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] read Dennis L. Cuddy PHD - A Chronological History of the Council on Foreign Relations [19:51] Action: agentc0re farts [19:51] :D [19:51] you pig [19:51] No, no. Thats what you're smelling now :P [19:51] :S [19:52] any other games? [19:52] agentc0re -> http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Msaibot/NERD.jpg [19:52] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] is that you LnxSlck ? ;p [19:53] Pig_Pen, i believe it's agentc0re [19:53] lol [19:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] greetings and salutations [19:54] greetings andarius, how are you? [19:54] wotcha andarius :) [19:54] LOL [19:54] wotcha BP{k} :) [19:55] salutations firebird619. I am well. you ? [19:55] firebird619: howdy :) [19:55] LnxSlck: That's great! [19:55] to start a decent garden i need to have a 10 wheeler dump truck haul in a load of good top soil [19:55] andarius: doing great, thanks. :) [19:55] agentc0re, just kidding ;) [19:55] maybe two [19:55] howdy BP{k}, how are you? [19:55] LnxSlck: Oh i know. :) [19:55] ;) [19:55] firebird619: not bad :) just sitting down with a nice bottle of `bishops finger' [19:56] wait, your not sitting on hos finger are you :o [19:56] and 2. i would have to do something my wife would kill me for, cut down a bunch of oak trees [19:56] s/hos/his. [19:56] andarius: get your mind out of the gutter ;) [19:56] but it is happier there [19:56] :( [19:57] Action: rk4n3 wonders, yet again, what he's wandered into with just a simple look at the channel ... [19:57] andarius: although .. http://www.bishopsfinger.co.uk/adverts/ ... ;) [19:58] on beer #3 here, a good danish brew, faxe:) [19:58] BP{k}: wow - so do you know where that bottle's been ? [19:58] ugh [19:58] :) [19:58] faxe [19:58] if they come with the purchase you can sign me up :) [19:58] thats one of the worst beers ever [19:59] no offense [19:59] andarius: hmm agreed, brewer++ for ad's with nice gals in corsets :D [19:59] none taken:) [19:59] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [20:00] faxe beer is stale as soon as you open it [20:01] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:02] Pat V. is a home brewer, i wonder what Slackware beer is like [20:04] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [20:04] Pig_Pen: slacktastic? :P [20:04] sorry chowabunga, who's richard gage [20:04] Hi Cann0n. [20:04] i know a guy that makes his own wine, i drank some, it is good and strong, but will give you one heck of a hangover [20:05] if slackware beer is anything like slackware linux it is great [20:06] this guy lives way out in the country in a mobile home, brews his wine in one gallon glass jars [20:06] filters it through cheesecloth [20:06] hey! [20:06] sup firebird619 [20:07] Cann0n: nothin much, you? [20:07] nothin much. at uncles [20:07] i saw my girl... [20:07] cool [20:07] BP{k}: odd name for a beer [20:10] firebird619: she rocked my world... lol. i build her a vibrator for the army... it's a boba fett pez dispencer i modified [20:10] ? [20:11] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:11] Cann0n, pics of her or it's not true [20:11] correction, pics of her using the boba fett vibrator, or its not true ... [20:11] :) [20:11] no [20:11] why do you want to see that [20:11] jeev: of the girl or the pez? [20:11] of the girl, naked [20:11] with my name written on a post it [20:12] beside her hooha [20:12] jeev: you have to ask ? ... man, you're missing something [20:12] hooha ? [20:12] Cann0n: lol, nice. [20:12] jeev: lol some nerds do get laid [20:12] idunno, that's what i call it, a hooha [20:12] Cann0n, true. my girl is a virgin hehe [20:12] rk4n3, it's just nasty [20:13] jeev: nasty ? no, its perfectly natural - as is wanting to see it :) [20:13] lol [20:13] http://imagebin.org/50969 the PFD did not do him any good (Rated G) [20:13] lol [20:13] want videa of the vibrator? lol [20:14] electric razor [20:14] nasty [20:14] dont use the end the cuts [20:17] Schroeder (i=1000@unaffiliated/unclejimbob) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:18] Cann0n_ (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [20:18] fatbottomed girls make the rockin' world go 'round [20:19] oops [20:19] lol [20:19] power cord still loose [20:25] hmmm ... some time ago I pulled the motor out of an electric toothbrush and hooked it to a AA battery, and have wondered what use I could put it to ... now I have some ideas [20:26] lol [20:26] rk4n3, please tell me not yourself [20:26] oh heck no [20:27] I'm thinking just from a novelty perspective ... "conversation piece" so to speak :) [20:27] want to see the vid? [20:27] heck yeah [20:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] its off my cellphone. lemme figure out how to post up .3gp files [20:29] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" [20:29] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.58.62) joined ##slackware. [20:32] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:32] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:32] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:34] here's a pic of the toothbrush motor wired to a AA battery... [20:34] http://rk4n3.daemonx.com/toothbrush-motor-lores.png [20:34] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:34] I have the hot lead capped off for safety while thrown into a drawer [20:35] damn rk4n3, modern day davinci [20:35] haha :) [20:35] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:35] http://pastebin.ca/1441680 [20:35] if anyone feels like battling freebsd issues [20:35] once i get the ram, im going to test it locally [20:36] if that pisses me off, im doing slack [20:36] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] 3639428 ignored RSTs in the windows [20:37] is that proper ? [20:37] i dont know man [20:37] ;/ [20:37] ... seems a little odd to me [20:37] 83465 connections dropped by rexmit timeout [20:37] ... that too [20:38] it was giving me a ton of trouble [20:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy2wXHcbWOE [20:38] i'd telnet to port 80 and half the time after the heavy bandwidth, 60+megs [20:38] it'd just timeout [20:39] check it out! [20:39] Cann0n_, you tested it on yourself [20:39] yea lol [20:39] haha - that's awesome :) [20:40] Cann0n_: LOL [20:40] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:41] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.59.233) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:41] Cann0n_: all you need to do now is find yourself a girl that's a Star Wars fan ;) [20:41] your best bet is convert one [20:41] star wars sucks [20:41] blasphemy ! [20:42] starlette whores > * [20:42] lol got one [20:43] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [20:43] Cann0n_: you should make a Chewbacca one for extra sensation [20:43] thats my first youtube videa [20:43] s/videa/video [20:43] Cann0n_: well, good job on a first attempt :) [20:45] lol. is that cool? im so proud of myself! lol [20:45] awesome :) [20:46] would be better if it was a video of actual use [20:46] just sayin [20:46] slackytude: I already requested that :) [20:46] rk4n3, I saw ^-^ [20:46] hehe [20:48] i just realized 68,000 points on one of my cc's were expired [20:48] lol [20:48] months back [20:48] now i have to use the rest before they jack me [20:48] could've sent my girlfriend somewhere [20:50] lol [20:50] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [20:50] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] PenPerk, you there [20:50] Nick change: arenics -> Arenics [20:50] does fios force you to use their own router ? [20:51] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [20:52] bbiab [20:53] AH HA!!! i think i found a fix for my PCMCIA wifi http://distatica.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/belkin-wireless-g-f5d9010-v3000-installation-under-debian-linux/ [20:54] change a line in the wifi firmware and rebuild [20:56] grissiom (n=grissiom@121.19.163.60) joined ##slackware. [20:56] anyone done any serious video editing with any apps on slackbuilds? [20:57] dartmouth: what do you need to do, exactly? [20:57] dartmouth: linux + video < mac + video [20:57] i need to throw a bunch of previously recorded videos together (graduation ceremony) and then throw in captions and effects [20:57] maybe background music [20:57] dartmouth: try avidemux [20:58] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-119-193.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] dartmouth: I used it for the first time last week, it's really nice [20:58] its in the SBo tree? [20:58] dartmouth: avidemux works great. Also kino is nice. [20:58] yes. [20:59] firebird619: buenas tardes. [20:59] dartmouth: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/avidemux/ [20:59] thumbs: good afternoon (more towards evening, 19:58). How are you? [20:59] firebird i keep an rsync with slackbuilds.org so i just cd /usr/ports/multimedia and then 'cus avidemux' in that dir and it downloads all the stuff and builds it, then installs it [20:59] much better, I just listened to a favourite set of mine. [21:00] dartmouth: awesome. [21:00] dartmouth: look into sbopkg [21:00] thumbs: cool. you get your laptop back? [21:00] firebird619: haven't sent it yet. I need to rip some DVD's first. [21:00] lol firebird619 you see that vid? [21:00] firebird619: I'll send it Monday [21:00] thumbs: i think rworkman referred me to it when i started making this little system but i am find with what i have for now. i always know what's going on with my stuff [21:00] thumbs: cool. [21:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy2wXHcbWOE [21:00] dartmouth: fair enough [21:00] Cann0n_: no [21:01] plus im using -current so im cautious about that particular set of stuff [21:02] this is an interesting article: http://money.canoe.ca/News/TopPhoto/2009/05/25/9574371-cp.html thumbs, you on this antenna bandwagon? :P [21:02] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:02] firebird619: esta musica me hizo sentir bien dentro de [21:02] Hi all. I just got a new (refurbished) computer and my Nvidea 7200GS card is causing ghosting on the edges. Any suggestiongs on how to fix it? [21:03] err, thanks alot Cann0n_, my browser crashed with that link. :P [21:03] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:03] hmm... it was youtube [21:03] firebird619: la musica puede ser muy podoreso [21:04] Cann0n_: I had to kill -9 it. :P [21:04] by the way, is there a way to patch the kernel source in such a way that you don't have to continuously rebuild modules manually? e.g. you drop the module source in a '3rd_party' dir in the kernel source and it builds the extra module with it? [21:04] referring specifically to fglrx/ndiswrapper/etc [21:04] thumbs: err, sorry, don't know all what you said there. I know musica though. :P [21:04] firebird619: sorry [21:05] thumbs: no worries. :) [21:05] firebird619: music is a powerful healer [21:05] thumbs: agreed [21:05] sentir = feeling [21:05] bien == good [21:06] oh duh, I should have recognized bien. :P [21:06] Cann0n_: haha, nice. and discrete indeed. [21:06] muy podoreso = very powerful [21:07] firebird619: the other words are contextual, but you get the point [21:07] yes, I do. :) [21:07] firebird619: did you get your fontproblem of last night sorted? [21:07] BP{k}: I tried a site Rat409 suggested, etc. but the fonts still suck. They could surely be better. [21:08] I don't know what the heck changing the username did, but it sure messed something up. [21:08] I'm still having issues with programs opening and relating to files in /tmp too. :( [21:09] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-119-193.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.2.1" [21:10] firebird619: I you want me to stop the Spanish lessons, please let me know [21:10] BP{k}: where does it look to for fonts, besides ~/.fonts that would have changed during username change? [21:11] firebird619: I am glad to have someone who won't tell me to shut up, heh [21:11] thumbs: haha [21:12] firebird619: hmm nowheree I think that uses ~. The only thing I can think of is to double check /etc/fonts and /etc/X11/xorg.conf [21:12] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:13] firebird619: also, you might want to grep through your config and replace any files where your old username appear in. also cleaning out your templ might help [21:13] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [21:13] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:13] I cleard out tmp last night due to programs not starting again, no such luck, it didn't even fix the program starting problem. [21:13] cleared [21:13] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] heh, whoops, I just noticed a mistake I made in following that font guide Rat409 gave me. This might be part of it. I'll check. :P [21:16] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:16] firebird619: my font entries for 12.2 in xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1441716 [21:17] i remember i had to adjust fontpath at install [21:17] Rat409: thanks. [21:17] or post-install i mean [21:17] Rat409: heh, that's just what I noticed, I forgot to adjust the fontpath. :P [21:18] biab laundry,hope it helps [21:21] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] i set mine at 100 dpi [21:22] http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/multi-platform-portable-gaming-entertainment-station-black/ [21:22] plays NES, SNES, GB, SEGA, Movies, MP3s.... [21:22] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.171) joined ##slackware. [21:23] 80 bucks [21:23] FM radio [21:24] neo-geo... it's the ultimate portable emultations station [21:24] brb [21:24] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [21:29] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) joined ##slackware. [21:33] number_three (n=dave@adsl-69-219-239-79.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] number_three (n=dave@adsl-69-219-239-79.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [21:38] thumbs: when you were using avidemux did you get an error about trouble initializing the audio device? [21:38] dartmouth: once, yes. [21:39] what was the fix? [21:39] dartmouth: Let me see. I can't recall now. [21:39] dartmouth: what file were you loading when you got the audio error? [21:40] er filetype/extension] [21:40] SDC12598.AVI [21:40] hmm, avi should not be a problem, i did find one with errors, but that was just the file as many other avi files worked out fine for editing [21:41] dartmouth: whoops, I just got the error again [21:41] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:42] "Error setting format." is the error that's generated in console right before each instance of the error [21:46] that's not good i need the audio lol [21:47] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:48] Ugh, fonts still suck. [21:48] mine dont lol [21:49] install the ms fonts package and play with the dpi a little [21:49] i have a rare classic Zed Zepp "Whole Lotta Love" avi video i want to crop some credits off the front before the music starts but i can not do it because of some errors, funny thing is the video plays perfect buy avidemux wont let me do anyting with it [21:50] s/buy/but [21:50] heh, same here, I still can't get the video frames cut off with avidemux. [21:51] you want to crop out credits? [21:51] why would you want to do that? [21:51] just to get rid of them, they are in a foreign language i can not read anyway [21:52] i can only read english [21:52] They are credits though [21:53] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:53] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:53] i cant read japanese or korean or some asian characters so they mean nothing to me [21:54] antiwire: do your fonts look good in pidgin? I change my username, and subsequently the /home folder for my user, and now fonts suck. [21:54] they might not mean something to you but they are credits [21:54] grissiom (n=grissiom@121.19.163.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:54] Pig_Pen: that argument is similar to "well I don't know the language of the land and since I can't understand it I don't have to obey their laws" [21:55] firebird619: yeah, it all looks good here [21:56] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:56] Hmm, ok. thanks. something is messed up with mine now. :P [21:56] I wonder if clearing ~/.purple would help and then add my accounts back. [21:57] make sure you back up any logs you need though [21:57] haha, yeah, that'd be alot to lose. [21:58] "tar -cvzf purple.tar.gz .purple" [21:58] even fonts in like pcmanfm, thunar, etc. are bad now. I mean not completely horrible, but they were alot nicer before. [21:58] Thanks BP{k}. :) [21:59] brb, gonna see if that helps. [21:59] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [22:01] paradello (n=PiAnO@200-100-71-203.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:01] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:01] nope, still bad. :( [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [22:05] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.190.135) joined ##slackware. [22:06] I found where to specify fonts in pidgin itself. :) [22:06] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: "leaving" [22:07] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [22:08] How can I stop svgalib under links to not detect/look for a mouse? [22:09] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:10] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:10] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [22:10] sleepytime laters [22:10] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] Gateway (n=Gateway@201-43-111-194.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:11] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] ola [22:12] gostaria de saber se sabem onde esta o slackware BR [22:12] waffle waffle [22:13] hi man [22:13] ##slackware-br ? [22:13] yes [22:14] tanks chopp [22:14] no problem [22:14] paradello (n=PiAnO@200-100-71-203.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: "The 7 Deadly Sins: all that other scripts would like to be!   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [22:14] my english not is very well [22:14] rsrsr [22:14] hello happy people [22:15] hi man [22:15] :) [22:15] brasil , samba , beautifull womans rsrsrs [22:16] frullet (n=hooch@124.168.187.163) left irc: "leaving" [22:16] /cl [22:17] fail :( [22:17] Hey Rat409, I figured out how to specify fonts in pidgin. [22:18] cool [22:18] accounts > prefs > conversations > fonts ? [22:18] lol [22:18] now to just work on everything else. :P [22:19] should slackware use sbopkg and slackbuild? [22:19] antiwire: :( yes. Plus the Pidgin GTK+ Theme Control plugin. :P [22:19] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.168.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:19] skibur: what you mean? [22:20] considering sbopkg uses slackbuilds from slackbuild.org :) [22:20] Well, I have installed may slackware systems and I install SBopkg all the time. [22:21] oh you mean by default probably not since it's not really part of slackware [22:21] what is version of slackware relesed [22:21] ye [22:21] yes [22:21] Gateway: latest stable is 12.2 [22:21] 12.2 [22:21] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.148.119.119) joined ##slackware. [22:21] tanks [22:22] tanks all around. [22:22] we are surrounded by tanks [22:22] i join in slackware-br , but channel is dead :( [22:22] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Hey frullet [22:23] thumbs: certainly a warthhog could take care of a couple of tanks ;) [22:23] Gateway: no hay muchos usarios de espanol [22:23] BP{k}: for sure [22:24] firebird619: whats up [22:24] frullet: nothing much, how about you? [22:24] i join in were [22:24] slackware-br no [22:24] srsrsrs [22:24] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [22:24] in were is best [22:26] firebird619: not much, just got a $100 keyboard for $35 [22:26] frullet: nice, what kind of keyboard? [22:26] firebird619: logitech wave keyboard [22:26] frullet: wow. [22:26] you like it? [22:26] How'd you get it that cheap? [22:26] anyone ever set up a distributed system? [22:27] yeh, its good, local computer fair [22:27] dchmelik: define [22:27] a cluster [22:27] there are various methods of doing it [22:27] a cluster? then no [22:27] frullet: gosh you're lucky. [22:27] :P [22:27] but I was offered a job by oak ridge, obama hire, turned it down [22:28] firebird619: yeh, was an awesome buy, also got a 500gig seagate for $75 [22:29] frullet: nice, bit to big and to many buttons for me personally ;) [22:29] I am going to try, but I do not know if I should connect them with ethernet or what and how to control the ones that do not have a video connection. [22:29] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [22:29] frullet: wow, good buys indeed. [22:30] BP{k}: yeh, but for $35 cant go wrong ;) [22:30] frullet: agreed :) [22:30] mmlj4: you turned down a job offer from oak ridge nuclear facility? [22:30] nuclear/research [22:31] it was bogus [22:31] i have NO experience, but they wanted to hire me regardless [22:31] very strange [22:31] isotope taste tester? [22:31] ;) [22:31] no, beowulf admin [22:31] ah [22:33] they sounded really desperate, but honesly, I could not have done the job [22:33] mmlj4: that's my biggest fear of actually getting accepted for any job [22:33] being accepted and then being pwnd [22:34] it sounded like they weren't telling me something [22:34] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:34] mmlj4: did the position require secret or classified clearances? [22:34] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] yes [22:35] ah [22:36] that's tough because they probably wouldn't be able to tell you everything about it until you accept it, you know [22:36] yeah [22:36] but still... I'm the last guy to hire for that position [22:37] walmart called me today about a job interview turned them down sicne I m starting training for another client at work [22:37] yet the guy was insistent [22:39] frullet: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126057 <-- logitech wave (recertified) $29.99, free shipping. [22:39] but beowulf admin is every *nix geek's dream job... [22:39] *sigh* [22:40] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "i walk through the valley of the shadow of the gumball" [22:43] v4nelle (n=van@adsl91-196.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:45] hey, Does anyone know what can be done to the standard Slackware apache configs to force all connections to ultimately be ssl? for example; if someone goes to http://domain.com I'd like it to automatically end up taking them to https:/domain.com [22:47] Gateway (n=Gateway@201-43-111-194.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:48] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [22:50] antiwire: sure [22:50] antiwire: Redirect / https://domain.com in the *:80 vhost [22:50] ah! thanks [22:50] you're welcome. [22:52] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:18] anyone use djbdns to manage multiple domains? [23:21] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [23:24] jescis (i=1000@adsl-80-18-57.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "returning after a reboot." [23:25] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:25] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.178.129) joined ##slackware. [23:25] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009172024.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:26] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:27] Nick change: moshe -> moshe-pgh [23:29] jescis (i=1000@adsl-80-18-57.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] i bought ram for the server for the office [23:29] i'll return it when im done with it [23:29] ol [23:30] _ohm (n=mark@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [23:33] k-milogars (n=k-miloga@190.26.50.147) joined ##slackware. [23:34] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-43-76-29.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:38] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.171) left irc: "leaving" [23:38] Idiocracy link of the day: http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story/Woman-Charged-After-Baby-Car-Seat-Thrown/Abg9pxL6Vk6wSzecDAa3cw.cspx [23:39] lol [23:39] i hope she remains in jail [23:39] kids need their mother [23:39] Action: jescis might have to wait for monday/tuesday to get the server setup :\ [23:39] but i dont think they need it THAT bad [23:40] jessica [23:40] age location breast size [23:40] Hey agentc0re: how's it going? [23:40] Action: jescis beats jeev with a Apple II lid [23:41] i bought 2x2gb pc5300 ddr2 ecc registered fully buffered [23:41] or some shit [23:42] to test till my ordered ones arrive [23:42] using it to test. [23:43] firebird619: Good, did a second jump today and it was my best yet. 3 more jumps until i graduate. That's all i really care about, that way it'll be cheap as hell. $160 to $40 a jump. [23:43] awesome. [23:44] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left ##slackware. [23:44] side effects with fedora/centos/ubuntu/all the other crap linuxes include getting rooted, downtime, annoyances, rpm packages, yum crap, repositories, searching for different files on a million different mirrors and getting rooted. [23:44] agentc0re, what do you jump [23:44] bunjee? [23:44] bungee? [23:44] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.190.135) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:44] skydiving [23:44] jeev: ^^^ [23:44] ahh [23:45] very awesome indeed! [23:45] /cl [23:45] Rat409: /fail [23:46] :P [23:46] not my day bleh [23:46] heh [23:46] Rat409: that's the second time today. [23:46] yuh,long day [23:46] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) left irc: Connection timed out [23:47] agentc0re [23:47] you have sex in mid air [23:48] If you can have sex and be done with in a minute, sure. You can only free fall for about 50 - 60 seconds. Plus you'd have to factor getting away from eachother after pulling you chute. [23:48] hahaha [23:49] hahaha [23:49] agentc0re: during a halo jump? ;) [23:49] 60 seconds ought to be sufficient. [23:49] and leaving the airplane. Are you "in" and "seated" in the plane or do you do that in mid air? [23:49] k-milogars (n=k-miloga@190.26.50.147) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [23:49] Well i did get a few comments in my year book about being the 3 second guy. :P I think i could make it work. [23:49] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection timed out [23:50] lol [23:50] All about being the one pump chump. [23:50] lol [23:51] Nick change: nheco -> _nheco [23:51] _nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: "Saindo" [23:51] naked skydive from where i am learning. Not by me though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skydiveutah.com%2Fvideo.htm&feature=player_embedded&v=bA0ffwe3QFs [23:52] aww, it's blocked. [23:52] confirm your bday. [23:52] sign in, what ever. [23:53] _nheco (n=nheco@201-66-156-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:54] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:55] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009172024.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "BitchX: for distribution only with a new PC" [23:55] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:55] talk about an attention whore [23:55] Ya, pretty much. [23:56] Phill was my last instructor. I find it way funny he did the Tandom and even better that he kept looking down her towel until they took it off. [23:56] All the guys that went to film the thing are all the guys in charge of everything so they pulled trump cards on everyone else which makes it even better. [23:57] she's not naked. She's wearing a parachute. [23:57] fake [23:57] I'd jump everyday of my life if I didn't have to pay [23:57] it's fscking expensive [23:57] antiwire: Grow boobs and jump naked. [23:58] antiwire: Have you jumped once before? [23:58] ~200 bucks a jump for a clothed male though [23:58] yeah [23:58] it's the biggest fscking rush ever [23:58] nothing compares. [23:58] antiwire: Whats the program like where you live to become certified to go by yourself? my whole program is like $1300 [23:58] agentc0re: that's about right, something like 10-15 jumps before you are officially on your own [23:59] running into an embassy with a gun is probably a bigger rush [23:59] antiwire: Oh ya. Dude today was awesome. Jumping by yourself is infinitely better. [23:59] agentc0re: When i finally have the disposable cash to become certified I plan to take the accelerated courses and get it done [23:59] antiwire: WOW, I only have to do 2 Tandoms and then 5 Solo's. http://www.skydiveutah.com/price_list.htm [00:00] --- Sun May 31 2009