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[00:19] deco: nice wallpaper. tis is my default setup. atm anyways http://omploader.org/vMnZ3cw [00:19] /s/tis/this [00:21] Rat409: thanks, hehe nice :) [00:21] Rat409: 4 cores :D [00:21] Rat409: what DE is that ? opem box ? [00:21] open [00:21] pekwm [00:21] init[1]: it says right there XD [00:22] WM : PekWM [00:22] lol, init[1] must be blind. [00:22] deco: i didn't reat that :-/ [00:22] lol :P [00:22] tint2 panel conky gkrellm [00:22] Rat409: really nice :) [00:23] thanks :) [00:23] i haz the best wallpaper of all :P [00:23] ideed you haz lol [00:23] lol [00:23] s/best/worse/ :{ [00:23] fire|bird: hater! [00:23] :P [00:24] deco: did you made that yourself ? [00:24] deco: lol, yup. :) [00:24] init[1]: nope found it on 4chan XD [00:24] i'll post it just a sec [00:24] init[1]: yeah, he was playing with legos one day and though, hey, this would look awesome as a wallpaper. [00:24] lol [00:24] s/though/thought/ [00:25] deco: i think i assumed too much about your self, for a moment i thought you made it :D [00:25] fire|bird: yea ;) [00:25] init[1]: :P [00:25] http://omploader.org/vMnZ3dQ <---- wallpaper [00:25] init[1]: the next creation will be with linkin logs. [00:25] deco: haha .. awesome [00:25] Hmm, linkin probably isn't the right spelling, but. :P [00:26] BP{k}: yup ^^ [00:26] omg even BP{k} liked it , :D [00:26] good one,deco [00:26] MLanden: thanks [00:26] BP{k}: is drunk so, he don't count. [00:27] init[1]: woot \o/ [00:27] XGizzmo: lies! I count double! [00:27] BP{k}: +1 [00:27] Rat409: +2 ;) [00:27] no no no you are seeing double. :P [00:27] or +2 lol [00:27] XGizzmo: same thing ;) [00:28] http://omploader.org/vMnZ3dg [00:28] :] [00:29] wollw really made that one :P [00:30] it's hanging on my wall now [00:30] :) [00:30] i took my staple gun out at like 1AM and made it mountable :P [00:30] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-5-138-22.pools.spcsdns.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:30] lol [00:31] Rat409: if you could slim the window boders on the top,you could get more space ,i think you should try another slim WM theme ;) [00:33] yuh i have quite a few pekwm themes i do change them occassionally. i also do use fvwm,fluxbox,openbox,wmii,ion3 sometimes [00:34] and rarely kde4,xfce4. did a full install plus some slackbuilds [00:34] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:34] pekwm looks interesting [00:35] its got somethings openbox doesnt,missing some openbox has. i like it tho [00:35] Rat409: ah,nice,i just suggested so ,here i use really slim WM theme (called Meenee) for xfwm4 , with tiny buttons ,its seems to save soo much space on screen. [00:36] indeed and i can use it all on this laptop but liked the theme color [00:37] deco: http://imagebin.org/73455 [00:37] fire|bird: nice :) [00:38] sweet touch,fire|bird [00:38] fire|bird: hahaha [00:38] http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 woot \o/!! [00:39] i'm like the only person that uploads :( [00:39] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:39] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:43] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] http://omploader.org/vMm9ueQ :P [00:44] deco: look at andarius' link, now THAT'S a nice wallpaper. :D [00:44] andarius: interesting wallpaper. :) [00:44] :) [00:44] andarius: nice ;) [00:45] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:45] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] I don't recall where I got it, however... I share ;) :: http://omploader.org/vMjV0bg [00:45] reroute (n=joe@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] Action: deco saves :P [00:45] good chan for slackware questions but do you peeps got advice on love? [00:46] andarius: I don't know where you got it, but it is on wall.alphacoders.com [00:46] lolz [00:46] lol [00:46] http://omploader.org/vMnZ3dw [00:46] advice on love in a 'geeky' channel [00:46] reroute: of course we do - but you might be better off not hearing it [00:46] andarius: very nice! [00:46] thanks [00:46] reroute: everyone dies the less you're attached to people the better :) [00:46] i would like. she has a gay ass best friends and by gay i mean homosexual [00:47] reroute: well, you don't need to be jealous of them, then :) [00:47] BP{k}: nice wallpaper :) [00:47] chicks with gay friends are never fun [00:47] to the point where you can't even hold a conversation [00:47] deco: thanks. :) [00:48] reroute: even better - you don't have to talk :) [00:48] gay to the point you can't hold a conversation? [00:48] I have so many wallpapers, my Wallpapers folder takes about 7 seconds to load. :/ [00:48] wollw: and i don't [00:48] but that gay dude gets on my nerves [00:48] one can never have too many wallpaper images :) [00:48] reroute: just smile and be quiet and enjoy the fact that you get to think about other things while they jabber, and you don't have to be in the conversation [00:49] fire|bird: hah! I just cleaned out mine recently .. dropped a whole load and went back to about 200 od [00:49] reroute: in fact, keep your laptop handy :) [00:49] reroute: ... what could be better [00:49] soo fucking junior high those two and they're 25!! wtf i'm only 26 [00:49] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:49] gaaaaah! [00:49] fak! [00:50] reroute: find a better girl [00:50] no way sex rulz [00:50] cool wallpapers folks [00:50] and great sex at that [00:50] BP{k}: what is that irssi theme you are using ? btw nice shot :) [00:50] reroute: ah, that explains alot - you haven't reached the point in your life where being left out is actually a goal to strive for :) [00:50] hey, if you're 'with' her already, stop complaining [00:50] fuck eh sex, anything i want [00:50] init[1]: one that I wrote myself. hacked together from a couple of other themes. [00:51] BP{k}: if you don't mind ? would mind a pastebin :) [00:51] rk4n3: i think u might have just enlightened me [00:51] reroute: :) [00:51] init[1]: http://buhkit.net/~michiel/files/personal.theme [00:52] BP{k}: thank you :) [00:52] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:53] thanks BP{k} i snagged it too. :) [00:53] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "pizza consumed, off to bed !!" [00:53] zomg :p [00:53] using trax.theme atm [00:54] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:55] BP{k}: wow looks really nice ,ty, i named it BPK :) [00:59] me too [00:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:00] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:00] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:04] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] http://imagebin.org/73457 [01:05] http://omploader.org/iMnZ3eA on my old box [01:05] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:05] rails_ (n=rails@59.94.209.240) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:06] MLanden: nice :) [01:06] whoops.... http://omploader.org/vMnZ3eA [01:06] lol [01:07] Nick change: hy -> silver [01:07] MLanden: what xfce theme is that ? the first link [01:07] oh wait [01:07] it's fire|bird's lol [01:07] deco: openbox/LXDE [01:07] MLanden: yeah [01:07] haha [01:07] fire|bird: what theme is that ? [01:08] deco: elite [01:08] fire|bird: :o , hmmm does it make firefox have dark input fields ? [01:08] yeah [01:08] :( [01:08] http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Elite?content=115222 [01:09] fire|bird: thanks :) [01:09] and http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Elite?content=115162 [01:09] elite's nice....like the greenheart and blueheart gtk theme as well..using blueheart now [01:09] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [01:09] my tattoo i got in quebec http://carmtattoo.com/pop_portefolio.asp?id=415 [01:10] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Nick change: silver -> hy [01:10] Paz (n=Paz@70.233.161.250) joined ##slackware. [01:10] fire|bird: dark'ish kde4 http://scnd101.deviantart.com/art/Kanzi-Suite-144969682 [01:11] whoa, that's nice. thanks Rat409 [01:11] that's not bad :) [01:11] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:11] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] MLanden: I installed an app yesterday called gtkperf that measures the performance of gtk themes. Xfce's default was decent, but Mist was faster, although Mist isn't as nice. :P [01:12] that really makes kde look nice. :P [01:12] fire|bird: measured nodoka? [01:13] fire|bird: cool [01:13] BP{k}: not yet, no. I will here, sec. [01:14] Hmm, having theme issues again. It's something that has to do with ~/.gtkrc* files. :/ [01:15] reroute (n=joe@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: [01:15] BP{k}: Total time: 12.95 [01:15] for Nodoka Midnight [01:15] fire|bird: good or bad ? [01:15] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] Nodoka Rounded Total time: 13.72 [01:16] deco: not bad, but could be better. [01:16] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] fire|bird: k :) [01:16] deco: Mist was 10.xx [01:16] brb [01:16] So I'm curious how well 13 will work with 12.2's X packages [01:17] O_O [01:17] fire|bird: what are you gonna install ? [01:17] grrr [01:17] fatalnix1995: what are you gonna install ? [01:17] you mean all of X on 13 ? [01:17] o_o [01:17] fatalnix1995: why does that sound like "oh I wonder how I am going to feel in this prison shower when I drop my soap" [01:18] lol!!! [01:18] lol [01:18] That, and downgrade the kernel, its either this or wait for Radeon HD to get better support for the r5x series. [01:18] BP{k}: lol....X_x [01:20] brb [01:20] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [01:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[01:26] no [01:26] brb [01:26] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [01:28] fire|bird: hm no idea :| [01:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-68-32.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] BP{k}: It happens now and then, so I have to remove ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and then it'll be fine. :/ [01:29] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:29] Paz (n=Paz@70.233.161.250) left irc: Client Quit [01:29] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] toastytoast: ill be upgrading sera-irc soon [01:30] cool [01:31] i haven't done any work on my irc bot [01:31] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:32] Action: Unnaturally only sees ~/.gtk-bookmarks [01:32] fire|bird, any clue what program is creating them? [01:32] not sure really, seems to be one of the themes I have. [01:33] then your theme(s) are causing problems with your theme(s) [01:33] hold intervention sessions [01:34] some themes require back ends (some gnome-ish ones) [01:36] Unnaturally (n=Records@211.180.33.9) left irc: "Leaving" [01:41] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:43] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [01:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:50] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [01:54] rails (n=rails@59.94.177.93) joined ##slackware. [01:57] wollw_ (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [01:57] wollw_ (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:04] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [02:08] good night [02:08] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [02:08] rails (n=rails@59.94.177.93) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:09] rails (n=rails@59.94.192.124) joined ##slackware. [02:09] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:11] how odd... "xterm -geom 40x24+0+0 -title naim -e naim" opens a window that immediately closes but if i leave off the -geom part it opens naim just fine [02:12] Slackware is as precious as the Brisingamen. [02:15] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-68-32.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:17] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:17] naex (n=naex@76-10-183-138.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:17] slackware_bob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-233-28.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:17] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:20] If it could be arranged that a sooner Slackware release was made in a similar way to the Brisingamen, would the dev team 'do it?' [02:20] You know what would be a GREAT addition to wget? The ability to limit bandwidth by apparent percentage [02:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:20] So that it downloads at say, 80% of max speed. That way you don't have to know how fast it's going to be. [02:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:22] dchmelik; what in the blazes is "Brisingamen"? And how does it relate to releases? [02:22] Rat409: http://omploader.org/vMnZ4Nw [02:22] BP{k}: Freyja's necklace [02:23] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-qwlznfqlmqbkwgat) joined ##slackware. [02:24] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:25] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: No route to host [02:25] http://www.freyjafirst.com/Brisingamen.aspx [02:25] It does not really relate to releases... it was just a joke. [02:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:26] fire|bird: looking [02:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:27] can .nrg files be mounted in linux as an iso [02:27] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] fire|bird: very nice! [02:28] toastytoast: yes [02:28] Rat409: It's using everything from that theme you gave me the link of. [02:28] toastytoast: mount -o loop,offset=307200 [02:28] fire|bird: cool [02:29] ok i wasn't sure if i would need to get nrg2iso thx [02:29] from what i have read the only difference between an nrg and an iso is some stupid header [02:29] well night guys all be well. starting to nod :P [02:29] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:32] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Axius (n=fim@92.84.23.61) joined ##slackware. [02:35] hi [02:35] can anyone tell me if there is anything like an xchat server ? something like a relay server ? or something like an xchat client that connects to an IRSSI session ? [02:35] rails (n=rails@59.94.192.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:37] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.245) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:39] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Agiofws: psybnc? znc? irssi proxy? [02:41] lets you connect with xchat or whatever and continue with the existing irc session [02:42] hmm thats what i'm looking for maybe :) [02:42] no lets see if opewrt lets me install a irssi proxy [02:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [02:43] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: "Leaving" [02:47] Axius (n=fim@92.84.23.61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:47] Axius (n=fim@92.84.23.61) joined ##slackware. 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[03:01] init[1], no, the man page says that rate-limiting is done via short-term sleeps, not killing the connection over and over [03:01] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:03] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.133.242) joined ##slackware. [03:04] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:04] hiptobecubic: :) [03:05] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Client Quit [03:05] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [03:09] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] Unnaturally (n=Records@119.206.100.129) joined ##slackware. [03:11] karuna (n=quassel@202.154.40.187) joined ##slackware. [03:12] rails (n=rails@59.94.209.119) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Action: The-Croupier greets [03:14] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:32] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [03:33] depends if you are in the CIA or not [03:33] oobe: cia doesn't do that either...they just thermite hard drives [03:33] why would they thermite them? that's expensive. melting is so much cheaper. [03:34] hell people being paid minimum wage to use sledge hammers may be cheaper still [03:34] anyways, back to the question... should one use shred if one's hard drive is fully encrypted? [03:34] there's lots of those in Korea. [03:34] ppl who have min wage jobs shreding secrets may end up stealing the secrets instead [03:35] i am talking about sanitizing not destruction [03:36] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-40.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] rails (n=rails@59.94.209.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:39] melting takes too long - and not as satisfying as a good "boom" [03:39] Unnaturally: do you have the "shred" program? [03:39] yes of course [03:39] which one do you have? [03:40] which one do you think i have? 8-) [03:41] Unnaturally: then you will be fine ;) [03:41] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:41] shred works at the file level unless you use /dev/ as the file, so it should be fine [03:42] well think about it, it's physical -> LUKS -> LVM -> FS [03:42] (like i said, if using README_CRYPT.TXT) [03:42] Action: The-Croupier doesnt see a reason to have such a thing...unless....... [03:42] i'm thinking it's not required any longer but oh well [03:43] (especially if one followed the instructions and wrote over the hard drive with the output of /dev/urandom) [03:43] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [03:44] kimjeng (n=Atambo@196.201.218.211) joined ##slackware. [03:48] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:48] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Client Quit [03:49] XSign (n=XSign@119.183.139.39) joined ##slackware. [03:49] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:49] hi i installed fedora and slackware inside partitions in an etended partition, how wold i be ablw to boot them? is it possible? [03:50] of course - look at chain loading [03:50] or grub2 [03:50] slackware 12.1,custom install,why the installer installed nothing and then notice install finished ? [03:51] Unnaturally: man shred read the CAUTION ,if you plan to use it seriously [03:51] alinsonken1noc: chain loading? will loook it up thamks [03:54] init[1], that CAUTION is a given [03:54] icarus (n=icarus@stud1-2.itu.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:55] Action: Unnaturally has no clue why people bother using extended partitions now that there is LVM [03:56] I know this isn't strictly a bash scripting channel. But seeing as it pertains to examples of slackbuild scripts.. What in the world does the syntax: BUILD=${BUILD:-1_rlw} accomplish ? [03:56] if build is empty, give default value after the hypen [03:56] Nick change: oobe -> menotoobe [03:56] Ah, so that's the difference from a normal assignment, great, thanks :) [03:56] use echo to test that expr [03:57] ah wiki to the rescue ("Data Remanence") "Encrypting data before it is stored on the medium may mitigate concerns about data remanence." [03:57] Nick change: menotoobe -> noreallyimnotoob [03:57] Nick change: noreallyimnotoob -> oobe [03:57] I did, and I notice it assigned the variable, I was just wondering why all the arcane syntax for a simple variable assignment ;) [03:58] no one knows the word "reman[ae]ne" [03:58] icarus: looks like "var ? x:y" to me [03:58] icarus: a way of checking if you want to preassign the variable for temporary change before actually assigning variable [03:59] ex: BUILD=/my_real_tmp_dir script.slackbuild [03:59] IMO remenence is the wrong word to use in that context [03:59] how can i install slackware with CUSTOM ? [04:00] alisonken1noc, i don't think BUILD can have a slash in it [04:00] hiptobecubic: reread - "ex: " :) [04:00] example [04:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-178.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:01] alisonken1noc, sure, just pointing out that it doesn't look the example would work. [04:02] it depends on how the slackbuild uses BUILD, but I've used it in similar scripts like that [04:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:02] Morn [04:03] Axius (n=ade@92.84.17.139) joined ##slackware. [04:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [04:03] BUILD=${BUILD:-val} sets a default value if varname does NOT exist [04:04] the colon is not part of the varname [04:04] no colon in the variables please [04:04] bash manpage says if name if null or unset [04:04] this is a family friendly channel [04:04] is it ? :) [04:05] huh? [04:10] Axius (n=ade@92.84.17.139) left irc: "Leaving" [04:11] oddsock (n=me@adsl-165-137-26.teol.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] anyone tell me why cannot install slackware with my tagfile ? [04:12] XSign, clarify. [04:14] hiptobecubic, I enterd directory /slackware/{l,ap,a,x....} and edit the tagfile,but when i install slackware through CUSTOM way [04:15] hiptobecubic, the installer installed nothing and then tell me installation complete [04:15] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:16] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:16] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:17] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:19] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [04:20] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.43) joined ##slackware. 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[04:26] Unnaturally (n=Records@119.206.100.129) left irc: "Leaving" [04:28] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) joined ##slackware. [04:32] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:32] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [04:40] kimjeng: How is your HD partitioned? [04:41] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [04:42] long story but here goes, two ntfs with xp and win 7 , one swap, then extended with six partitions two with slack one more swap and three with fedora 12 [04:42] man thats a lot of partitions lol [04:43] 2 swap partitions on one drive? [04:43] why [04:44] well i dont know whether the two linuxex can share the same swap if i knew id have only one [04:44] :-) [04:44] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [04:44] unless you're running both linux versions at the same time, swap is swap :) [04:45] kimjeng: Please do fdisk -l /dev/yourhd [04:45] drg33m :its a 500gb hd [04:46] -l ? what does that do? /yourhd which one? [04:48] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-qwlznfqlmqbkwgat) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [04:48] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.43) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:48] the one in question obviously :D !!!!!!! and -l = list partition tables [04:49] Rainly (n=Rainly@114-42-184-198.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:49] Nick change: Rainly -> Rainly_ [04:49] oh ok [04:50] Rainly_ (n=Rainly@114-42-184-198.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:56] murmlos_ (i=mrmlz@hhcrew.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:09] kimjeng: also pastebin the grub device.map [05:10] hello, I was trying to upgrade from slackware 12.0 to 13.0 following the changelog instructions, etc: update pkgtools at first and install the xz-package. And when I move on to upgrade findutils-*.txz it indicates that it can not be installed because xz- is mising (and xz- has been installed as far as I can see; it also shows xz- on /var/log/packages). What could be wrong? [05:11] gyroscope (n=master@88.232.148.96) joined ##slackware. [05:12] im a noob and the comp in question is not the one im connected to the internet with theyre in two diffrent rooms, how do i pastebin all that? [05:12] save in ta flash? how is that done? [05:14] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [05:15] kimjeng: fdisk -l > hd-list.txt [05:16] kimjeng: pastebin the file [05:16] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-pyolsglyiofeaofd) joined ##slackware. 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[05:36] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:37] anywayy merciful: im still here under a different nick its still kimjeng here [05:39] Atambo_: oke [05:41] Atambo_: grub uses hd0,0 to point to a partition. In the device.map you can see what dev (sda/ hda) is assigned to hd [05:43] Atambo_: http://pastebin.com/d566d34a4 [05:43] alisonken1noc: wouldn't hibernation create problem if we hibernate one linux and boot up another one ? i mean interms of swap ? [05:43] init[1]: that would be an issue - yes [05:44] Axius (n=fim@92.82.86.155) joined ##slackware. [05:44] alisonken1hom3, that would be a fail :) [05:45] Action: slava_dp always talks to the wrong alisonken1 :/ [05:45] alisonken1noc: just wanted to confrim it,coz latest kernel _may_ have some way to identify the page file saved to swap ,i'm not sure though ,but it could have benn done loong back ,any way :) [05:46] merciful : thanks for the assistance , but my net is misbehaving , i try to get back later, [05:46] Atambo_ (n=Atambo@196.201.211.200) left irc: "il be back" [05:46] init[1], i'm not sure the kernel devs are so concerned about swap being overwritten. reboot is not a supported operation under linux :) [05:47] rails (n=rails@59.94.195.149) joined ##slackware. [05:47] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:47] slava_dp: reboot? [05:48] alisonken1noc, never mind. 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[06:01] alisonken1noc: source and the version isi libavc1394-0.5.3 [06:01] in that case, you have to make sure that configure is using /lib64, /usr/lib64 rather than /lib, /usr/lib [06:02] tuubaaku_ (n=tuubaaku@h203.95.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [06:02] did you see if there was a slackbuild at slackbuilds.org before grabbing sources? [06:02] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Client Quit [06:02] alisonken1noc: yes but I get error that "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" [06:03] linXea-Desktop (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:04] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-pyolsglyiofeaofd) left irc: [06:04] yskapell: did you see if there was a dvgrab slackbuild at slackbuilds.org? or is that what you're using to try and compile dvgrab? [06:06] I saw and that error was from dvgrab when I execute dvgrab.Slackbuild [06:07] might want to look at the slackbuild and see if it's trying to cross-compile a 32-bit binary [06:07] I was wondering, has anyone found cpu usage differences when using jfs? [06:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.39.163) joined ##slackware. [06:10] alisonken1noc: I compiled them as x86_64 and solved all the problem. [06:11] aperturefever (n=abell@ninthfloor.org) joined ##slackware. [06:11] If anyone wants the binaries let me know [06:11] good [06:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-hektbooqrxqlwwty) joined ##slackware. [06:13] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:14] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.39.163) left irc: Client Quit [06:15] tuubaaku (n=tuubaaku@h240.81.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:15] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-joqgudqoupmdswfg) joined ##slackware. [06:16] lxde is nice :) http://omploader.org/vMnZ5OQ [06:17] i wonder why ntpd still "listening" on all my devices but i configured it just as a client (i hope) [06:17] no broadcasting and all that stuff [06:18] ntpd is supposed to have replaced ntpclient as the sync client [06:18] ntpdate rather [06:18] yes [06:19] strace is the best thing that was ever invented ever. Though it might drop a place or two on review :) [06:19] alisonken1hom3 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:19] cadmium (n=cadmium@92.97.231.65) joined ##slackware. [06:19] btw, what should I change to change the PATH of all users? I don't wan't . to be included and I want /usr/sbin and /sbin to be included, just like root's PATH [06:19] alisonken1hom3 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:20] /etc/profile [06:20] uncomment the test for "is uid=0" when adding sbin dirs [06:20] you can also look at the different shells in /etc/profile.d [06:20] and add whatever you want [06:20] Zordrak: argh, yes, I was looking in profile.d but not profile, thanks ;p [06:21] tbh id like to see the sbin dirs in user paths by default [06:22] i configured ntp just to get the time from a preferred server, not to act as a server. still my syslog shows listening on lo#123, eth0#123, wlan0#123, i cant get rid of that [06:22] if they dont have permission to run them they dont... but hiding them serves no purpose.. they can still list the contents of the sbin dirs [06:22] actually there is a bug in upgradepkg if /sbin isn't in the PATH, it won't find installpkg [06:22] nasty bug [06:22] nmap shows closed though..still i dont understand that [06:23] XSign (n=XSign@119.183.139.39) left irc: "‚»" [06:23] cteg: if youre not serving, dont use ntpd.. add a call to ntpdate to cron.hourly [06:24] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-47.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:24] hrm yes..i thought so, but they say ntpdate is deprecated...maybe ntp -q will do [06:25] anyway i dont need to measure nano seconds, just a correct time [06:26] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:28] tuubaaku (n=tuubaaku@h162.88.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [06:32] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:33] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [06:33] cadmium (n=cadmium@92.97.231.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:33] rails (n=rails@59.94.195.149) left irc: Client Quit [06:35] Camarade_Tux: well, upgradepkg was written with root in mind :) [06:35] or rather, a _proper_ root environment [06:36] but it shouldn't fail halfway in the middle... [06:36] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [06:36] true [06:38] cteg: sntp -P no -r your.time.server [06:38] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.4.0) joined ##slackware. [06:39] anyone knows a good free html tutorial or ebook? [06:39] tuubaaku_ (n=tuubaaku@h203.95.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:39] dissociative: sounds like a perfect question for #html or #web :) [06:40] lol [06:40] yes [06:40] dissociative: http://www.w3schools.com/ ? [06:44] aha [06:47] oddsock (n=me@adsl-165-137-26.teol.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [06:48] node357 (n=seanj@S010600134610d4c3.gv.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] Hi all. Anyone know why any games I play on Slackware 13 that use SDL, the mouse stops working after a while? [06:49] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.48.31) joined ##slackware. [06:50] does the cursor disappear? 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[07:33] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [07:33] hello slacker [07:35] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:38] ea: did you try gv ? [07:39] gv won't read djvu [07:39] djvulibre comes with a viewer, djview or summit [07:40] djview is qt based [07:40] the problem is that i have here a very slim install [07:40] eee pc 701 ... and i am trying to keep things as slim as i can [07:42] does anyone have a laptop with Samsung HDD? [07:42] ea: this not a solution,use _djvups_ to convert to ps [07:44] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:47] stamp (n=stamp@chello087206233091.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:47] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [07:48] tnx [07:48] Hi [07:49] ea: will that work for you ? [07:49] ea: there another alternative http://sourceforge.net/projects/javadjvu/ (if you have java) [07:50] yea, that will work , for now , i`ll go check evince deps ...:) tnx [07:53] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.228.52) joined ##slackware. [07:53] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:53] helmets (n=tramp@211.180.33.9) left irc: "Leaving" [07:53] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [07:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Nick change: ea -> ea_ [08:01] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [08:01] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) left ##slackware. [08:09] nheco (n=nheco@189-30-7-254.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:31] happy cyber monday. feel free to order my gifts today :-) [08:31] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-117.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:34] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:34] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30E9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:35] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429573.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:35] U-Neeks (i=U-Neeks@201-24-47-130.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:36] haldir: how much would it cost to ship a partidge in a pear tree to you? [08:36] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.221) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:39] greetings from northern Canada [08:41] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.48.29) joined ##slackware. [08:43] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:44] davi` (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Client Quit [08:45] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [08:46] gnubien, i have the pear tree so just need the partridge :-) [08:48] haldir: nice, i'll email the partridge to you ;) [08:50] gnubien, actually i have 2 pear trees, so a matching pair would be nice [08:50] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-233-150.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:57] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: ""see ya!"" [08:58] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:58] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left ##slackware. [09:05] Traveler01 (n=traveler@77-121-16-82.telesweet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Traveler01 (n=traveler@77-121-16-82.telesweet.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:05] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:06] nheco (n=nheco@189-30-7-254.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:07] Action: init[1] ##Slackware is silent again ; [09:07] Traveler42 (n=traveler@77-121-16-82.telesweet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] yeah [09:09] Could someone help me install Java and elinks on a minimal Slackware install? [09:09] nheco (n=nheco@189-30-7-254.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:09] installpkg jre-6.x.y-$ARCH.txz && slackbuilds.org [09:09] sure, download them, and use installpkg [09:10] Traveler42: http://sbopkg.org [09:10] java is on the slackware DVD in /extra [09:10] It's a VM, so I don't have the CD's. [09:10] not extra/ , l/ jdk is in extra/ [09:10] sbopkg is the simplest way to got elinks ($ yes | sbopkg -i elinks) [09:11] *nod* sorry i assume jdk is the req when people ask [09:11] yeah cause jre is normally installed by default [09:11] Traveler42: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/slackware/l/jre-6u16-i586-1.txz <- [09:11] caio (n=caio@190.244.51.193) joined ##slackware. [09:11] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30E9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:11] or "slackpkg install jre" [09:11] sahk0: i think he said minimal install , [09:12] Nick change: caio -> Guest25937 [09:12] yeah exactly [09:12] I'm used to debian, so so perhaps it would be best to install a package manager first. [09:12] if you decide to to a minimal (ie non default) install i think you should be willing to do the legwork of figuring stuff out [09:12] Well, rather Ubuntu. [09:13] It's a VM, I picked slackware because of the 3 MB idle memory use. [09:13] congrats [09:13] mm, I find that hard to believe :) [09:13] Ubuntu has 16 MB idle memory. [09:14] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-251-78.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:14] Traveler42: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/28/slackware-package-management-guide/ [09:14] init[1]: do you mind if i ask you where are you from? ive been meaning to do that for a while. quriosity:) [09:15] Traveler42: is it possible to install ubuntu as a minimal one ? i never saw that option [09:15] sahk0: do you mind me if tell that in PM ? [09:15] s/me/ / [09:15] no, ofc not:) [09:16] Ubuntu has a server version. Anyway, I didn't install the system. Thanks for the link. [09:21] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Well, I've got to go run some errands, but thanks for you help in pointing me toward slackware package management. It's just what I was needed. I'll let ya know how it goes. [09:26] Axius (n=ade@92.82.90.238) joined ##slackware. [09:26] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@84.19.169.243) joined ##slackware. [09:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:29] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [09:30] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [09:30] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:32] yahoo puts a "get the new safer ie 8" when you connect to certain of its sites, does it do a useragent check for "mozilla" ?!? [09:32] since when is yahoo in bed with m$? [09:32] That doesn't mean anything [09:32] That just means they are recommending people upgrade to the latest..which they should [09:33] Too many people still run IE6 [09:33] ok, that i would support, but can't they just do a simple uagent check then to not make it seem like they're reocmmending people away from firefox, say? [09:35] Nick change: hy -> silver [09:36] strat are you windows saavy? [09:37] icarus (n=icarus@stud1-2.itu.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:37] wasnt yahoo bought by ms or something? [09:37] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.56) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:38] oh geez, you're right sahk0, i wasn't even thinking. [09:38] straterra, i run ie6 principally on the winxp boxen. just to feel how shitty ie is :-) i don't care if it got updated twice or whatever. [09:38] although i just use it for windoze update. ff for the rest. [09:38] strat anyways, if you are, i was wondering if you know of a windows equivalent to libsafe... [09:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "leaving" [09:40] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-254.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] ms is all about marketing, i would not be surprized if some of those exploytes for older internet explorer and older windows versions were not made be microsoft themselves just to prompt people to buy newer versions of windows [09:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [09:41] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-82-18.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [09:42] Pig_pen you've heard of the critical tcp/ip stack vulnerability that isn't gonna be ever patched in win2k or winxp though the latter is still inside its contract-specificed security maintentance window? [09:42] what is that word to describe that? [09:43] planned obsolescence? [09:44] i refuse to spend money on microsoft software, i would rather build my own PCs from parts or buy used off of craigslist and slap a linux distro on it [09:45] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] the other stuff i can attribute to aggresive (and marginally unethical) marketing. but to NOT patch a critical vulnerability in a product that by contract is still within the security window? that's negligence, breach of contract, and other things. [09:47] yup, but who can do anything about it other than not be a microsoft customer [09:47] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:47] Or use an OS that isn't almost 9 years old o.O [09:47] Does Linux still backport fixes for kernels released 9 years ago? [09:48] nheco (n=nheco@189-30-7-254.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:49] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A64B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:50] i can install slack-8 and build the latest 2.4.x kernel for it and it will be good and usable, i might not be able to run the latest firefox but i know i can use it safely with other browsers (links, lynx, maybe konqueror) [09:50] or use as a server os [09:50] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [09:51] linux is not a paid-for product with contract terms though [09:51] xp is [09:51] they maintain the 2.2.xx and 2.4.xx lines, they dont get any new features but they are kept patched [09:52] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] and a lot of people stuck with xp for longer than they might have wanted to because of the abysmal failure of vista [09:53] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:53] hey mancha, were busy making a "hate microsoft stew" dont spoil the stew man! :p [09:53] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Axius (n=ade@92.82.90.238) left irc: "Leaving" [09:54] ok, i am not good with the hate stews so i'll withdraw :) [09:55] but still MS is called the Software Giant :-/ blah .. [09:55] the stew needs some anise and cinnamon [09:55] and maybe a little pepper too [09:56] and enough onions that would make a terrorist cry [09:56] good morning everyone [09:57] yo Scuzz ,how is LFS going ? [09:57] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-91-226.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [09:57] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.4.0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:57] init[1]: i wish you didnt ask [09:57] lo [09:57] you were correct [09:57] lots of time [09:57] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:58] its on the back burner for now [09:59] Scuzz: i told ya, but you shouldn't withdraw , spend this weekend for it :) 24x2 ,how much nerdish should that sound :D [09:59] haha yeah [10:00] it was cold this morning, i put on my long underware before i went for my morning walk [10:01] Pig_Pen: how long is it ? :D [10:02] two paths diverged in a wood and i took the path less traveled by --robert frost [10:02] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:02] yellow wood [10:03] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:03] mancha: purple wood in my hood ;) [10:03] could anyone recommend a PCI wifi card that has kernel support? (ie, not through madwifi or another module i have to build..) [10:03] morning wod [10:04] morning wood* [10:05] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:07] john_dee (n=id@95-29-144-45.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:07] heya, slackers [10:07] guax (n=guaxinim@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [10:07] hackedhead: any wifi card with an atheros chip [10:07] morning john_dee [10:08] Scuzz: yep. though it's more like evening here ;) [10:08] nice [10:08] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-91-226.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:08] im waking up , and your ready for bed [10:09] http://linux-wless.passys.nl hackedhead [10:09] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-82-18.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] i always have trouble finding which chip is used by the manufacturer... seems the same company will use a variety of chips on the same wifi card/model [10:09] Pig_Pen: oh right, madwifi/atheros got folded into the kernel, huh? [10:10] been a while since i used something that wasn't a laptop intel onboard [10:10] yeah ath5k (and ath9k) have made progress in leaps and strides [10:10] atheros was kind (smart?) enough to opensource a hal [10:10] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:11] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@84.19.169.243) left irc: [10:11] what i would do is first make a list of what is available for sale at wherever you plan to buy your wifi card at, then compare that list for what is linux compatible at that site and linuxquestions.org hcl (comments about what users say about it) [10:12] Pig_Pen: yeah, good call [10:13] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: "Leaving" [10:13] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-94-86.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:17] Nick change: x-ip -> rockybalboa [10:18] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "leaving" [10:18] anyone think they'll ever put information about the chipset on the package? [10:18] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:18] Nick change: x-ip -> rockybalboa [10:20] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:20] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [10:22] xandrix (n=xandrix@dsl-154-219.aei.ca) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [10:23] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:24] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.228.52) left irc: "Leaving" [10:25] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:26] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-210-137.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-251-78.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:28] i never seen any hardware do that other than an OEM PC just give basic details about CPU, RAM, graphics, disk size, (nothing about chipsets) [10:28] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:28] xandrix (n=xandrix@dsl-154-219.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Nick change: xandrix -> XandriX [10:32] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-94-86.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] "3- Install emacs as /sbin/init" [10:35] ^^ http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html [10:36] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:36] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:36] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:37] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-171-26.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:41] some network hw makers are beginning to put the chipset specs on the box (specifications section) [10:41] it would be nice for this to be done across the board, though [10:41] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-48-253.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:44] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-210-137.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:45] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:45] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:46] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:46] bleh. looks like i'm sol. [10:46] Pig_Pen, nooooooooo, not atheros [10:46] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-177-151.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:46] bestbuy only stocks one possibly compatible card in my store, and if it's the latest version (likely) it won;t work [10:46] slava_dp: then what? [10:47] atheros is fscked up with suspend/resume. believe me, i've done a system based on atheros, struggled with it real hard. [10:48] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:48] hackedhead, i use intel in my lappy. don't know about anything else. just telling you that the one atheros card that i had to use was hell to make work. [10:48] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [10:48] slava_dp: atheros has come a _long_ way [10:48] i had to resort to a pm hook that did inet1 wlan0_stop/start on every suspend. [10:49] hackedhead, with a .30.9 kernel. [10:49] i've used a pcmcia card that was ath that worked with no issues [10:49] ath5k. [10:49] geez [10:49] hmm.. [10:49] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] yeah, i mean, the intel stuff is great [10:49] but i have to get something for my desktop [10:50] so sadly, onboard intel isn't really an option [10:50] i'm not telling you don't buy atheros. that was just my story with *one* card. ymmv a lot. [10:50] although now it looks like i'm going to have to oder sth online [10:50] which means i can just buy a specific known-to-work card [10:50] tikbalang (n=tikbalan@112.203.127.104) joined ##slackware. [10:51] hello? [10:51] tikbalang, hello? [10:51] "< slava_dp> Pig_Pen, nooooooooo, not atheros" ... "< slava_dp> i'm not telling you don't buy atheros." ... =P [10:51] hahaha [10:52] hackedhead, :) that was my first emotion when i read the backlog [10:52] i need help. [10:53] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:53] can i use slackware 12.2 packages for zipslack 11? [10:53] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:53] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:54] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.221) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:54] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:54] there is a really good chance that 12.2 packages wont work in 11 [10:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-171-26.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:54] gyroscope (n=master@85.104.70.97) joined ##slackware. [10:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-71-89.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:55] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [10:55] kimjeng (n=Atambo@196.201.211.196) joined ##slackware. [10:55] mike3 (n=niter3@CPE00131078a254-CM001ade840b26.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Guys, if I remove the swap from /etc/fstab and reboot my computer. Will it boot fine and just not use a swap? [10:55] even if the packages installed with no glitch? [10:56] Nick change: fadein_ -> fadein [10:56] mike3: should be fine [10:56] mike3: depends on how much ram you have, [10:56] why not use "swapoff" [10:56] mancha: i could do that. Will this allow me to format the partitions and what not? [10:57] mike3 (n=niter3@CPE00131078a254-CM001ade840b26.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [10:57] mike3: and it'll die if you run outta memory [10:57] yeah, exactly make sure you have enough real memory [10:57] you know, he left [10:57] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:58] drive space is so cheap these days, why are people skimping on a few gigs? :) [10:59] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:59] tikbalang (n=tikbalan@112.203.127.104) left ##slackware. 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[11:03] you wanna watch a great classic movie tonite? on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) The Treasure of Sierra Madre is on, it is a Humphrey Bogart movie where he plays a guy down on his luck in mexico during the depression and goes mining for gold [11:04] Pardon me can you help a fellow american who is down on his luck [11:04] you had me righc up until american [11:05] been a while since I have seen it [11:05] Zordrak: :) [11:05] Pig_Pen: john ford's father plays the old gold prospector in that movie [11:05] Badges? Badges!!? we dont need no steenkin! badges! [11:06] the old irish dude? yeah he is a favorite character in that movie [11:07] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:07] Pig_Pen: yea, the one who dances the jig when they find the gold :) [11:08] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-67-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:08] yeah, hes cool [11:09] I love Bogart movies.....Maltese Falcon....African Queen...great stuff! 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[11:16] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-254.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:18] hi im thinking of making one primary partition that becomes /boot for two linux distros and it alo contains initrd, how would i achieve this? [11:18] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [11:19] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-177-151.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] may I ask why you want to do that? [11:20] deco: \o/ [11:20] Camarade_Tux: \O/!! [11:21] you have a big head :o [11:21] Camarade_Tux: yup for your big mouth :D [11:21] ^^ [11:21] :) [11:21] well first i want to multi boot and this is part of the issue [11:22] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] do you currently have a /boot partition? [11:22] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:22] Camarade_Tux: and heres the rest http://forum.plop.at/index.php/topic,86.0.html [11:22] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:22] yes i do [11:23] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:23] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] kimjeng: "the plop boot manager"? what's that? [11:24] an independent boot manager much like xosl and gag [11:24] just slightly more snazy [11:25] I was wondering if it were the best choice [11:25] Nick change: silver -> hy [11:26] anyway, the advice you've been given sounds good, you don't need anything special [11:27] hmmm, no archiver with lxde [11:27] what would be the best choice? know an independent boot loader that can boot stuff inside extended partitions? [11:28] hahaha : "If you want to try an experimental patch to support xz, then run the script like this: BEND_ME_OVER=kthxbai ./xarchiver.SlackBuild" :P [11:28] lol [11:28] kimjeng: why not lilo or grub? [11:29] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] i tried both while installing slackware and fedora 12 they kind of never worked, the seem never to have been installed in the mbr [11:30] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) joined ##slackware. [11:30] i have no idea why [11:30] Traveler42 (n=traveler@77-121-16-82.telesweet.net) left irc: "Java user signed off" [11:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.106.130) joined ##slackware. [11:30] but yeah, I think the patch is broken [11:30] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:31] more specifically, it breaks lzop [11:31] what do you mean? what patch? [11:32] unrelated to your problem [11:32] oh [11:33] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] I had troubles installing lilo or grub sometimes so I won't tell you to remove what currently boots, anyway, for multiple OSes, there should be nothing specific, if you can boot one OS, you can boot several ones [11:34] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:34] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:36] rworkman: sbo mentions you approved xarchiver, have you checked the patch for xz support? ( http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/system/xarchiver/xarchiver-0.5.2-add_xz_support.patch ) I think it's broken (breaks lzop support) [11:36] |Cyb3rGh0st| (i=01@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [11:37] so back to the original issue how would i hace one /boot partition for two distros? how is that achieved? [11:38] well, just like it is for one [11:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] just choose the same /boot partition for both during install for both distros? [11:44] thats guaranteed to fail [11:45] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:46] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:46] mohaa (n=nome_ute@92.49.76.56) joined ##slackware. [11:47] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:49] any one with an idea on how to achieve this? [11:50] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [11:51] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:51] i would be concerned with something from the second install overwriting something from the first install [11:53] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-156-177.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [11:53] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:53] kimjeng: the two distributions are currently installed, right? [11:54] maybe specify the /boot part for install #1, then put insall #2 all in a unified part (no separate /boot) then cp the important files from the 2nd's boot to /boot and change fstab [11:54] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:54] check the /boot dirs from both and see if anything has the same filename because one would overwrite the other [11:55] torrente (n=opera@77.29.215.198) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Camarade_Tux: yes [11:55] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:56] yes a quick read of that patchfile tells me there's a bug in it [11:57] unified part? [11:57] mancha: unified part? [11:57] unified partition [11:58] kimjeng: well, I can't really guide you here since I don't use initrds but have you read http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/README.initrd [11:58] glarb (i=1000@c-68-42-189-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:59] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.18.104) joined ##slackware. [11:59] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:59] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:06] is there any issues with slackware running 6 gb's of ram ? [12:07] update-mime-database /usr/share/mime && update-desktop-database [12:07] no, but your processor might have issues addressing it [12:07] Scuzz the 32 bit kernel can only use 4 gigs ram [12:08] im running 64 bit [12:08] glarb (i=1000@c-68-42-189-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] so gigs should be fine ? [12:08] Pig_Pen: I've rebooted ;-) [12:08] 4 gigs* [12:08] mohaa (n=nome_ute@92.49.76.56) left irc: Connection timed out [12:08] Scuzz: 4GB here and no problem [12:09] then you can have up to 17179869184 GB or ram [12:09] and I already used 2GB+4GB (4GB swap, and yes!) [12:09] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:09] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:09] mancha: can I haz the moneys for that amount of memory? :) [12:09] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Pig_Pen: i picked up a netgear that shoudl have an atheros (wpn 311) we'll see how it goes tonight [12:10] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:10] isn't netgear the one that infamously changes chipsets on their models w/o warning? [12:10] mancha: they all do that [12:10] not all [12:11] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:11] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:11] mindbendr (n=neveraga@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:11] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@fw.dcc.ufba.br) joined ##slackware. [12:11] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:13] keep your fingers crossed X [12:14] hmmm, seems the problem is that pcmanfm can't determine the type of a .tgz [12:14] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:14] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:14] nor the one of a .tar.gz (file gives me the good answer) [12:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [12:16] paprastas (i=01@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [12:16] |Cyb3rGh0st| (i=01@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:17] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-71-89.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:17] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.202.225.145) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Camarade_Tux: re that xz patch for xarchiver, it's probably broken. It seems to mostly work here, but that's all I know. I wrote that patch, sent it upstream for review, and then the upstream guy decided to do a rewrite and asked me to modify the patch for the rewrite. Quite frankly, I lost interest and decided "screw it." [12:17] I don't use xarchiver anyway, so I lack the requisite give-a-damn. [12:18] And with that, I'm afk again. [12:18] rworkman, i have the fix if you want it [12:18] rworkman: ok, thanks ;-) [12:19] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:19] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:20] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [12:21] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:21] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:22] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. 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[12:37] Camarade_Tux i might use that quote sometime [12:37] or maybe exbibytes to not alert the prefix pohleez [12:38] nille_: I hereby place it under the wtfywl ;-) [12:39] great [12:41] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-156-177.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:41] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:41] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:42] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-205-199-23-217.broadband.blic.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:42] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [12:44] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-145-127.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:46] hi guys [12:47] hi oddsock [12:47] does anyone here have problems with libpng on slack64? [12:47] which problem? [12:47] Nick change: linXea-Desktop -> linXea [12:47] it crashes my app with "ibpng error: Invalid image width" message [12:48] are you sure the problem isn't the image? [12:48] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:48] it appears tht this can be fixed by changing two lines in pngconf.h [12:48] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:49] oddsock: which ones? [12:49] typedef unsigned long png_uint_32; [12:49] typedef long png_int_32; [12:49] with \ [12:49] typedef unsigned int png_uint_32; [12:49] typedef int png_int_32; [12:49] actually that sounds like a possible bug/security problem [12:49] 64-bit issue? [12:49] oddsock, what version ? [12:49] or i'm missing something? [12:49] 13 [12:49] odd ... of libpng .. [12:49] oddsock: how wide is the image? [12:49] 512x512 [12:50] strace the app [12:50] well, i've made that changes on newly downloaded libpng 1.2.40 and recompiled it - now works [12:50] oddsock: both int and long would allow at least images that wide [12:51] I had some issue with the 3.1.2.7 .... when I got the [3.1.2.12] it all worked like a charm [12:51] is there some macro that should be defined on 64 bit os? [12:51] but slackware has 1.2.37, can you try WITHOUT the change on 1.2.40? [12:51] tried & failed [12:51] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:54] libpng works here for big images btw so it's not a complete 64bit problem [12:54] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@190.71.1.143) joined ##slackware. [12:55] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:55] alienBOB: pcmanfm 0.5 has a bug that is fixed in 0.5.2: it failed to recognize archives (its file/libmagic logic failed) [12:56] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:56] oddsock: Where did you get that fix? [12:56] found on google - apparently someone was having the same problem with quake port [12:56] .. [12:56] yoddsock, good catch [12:56] email pat [12:57] and/or let alienbob know (he was instrumental in the 64 bit port) [12:59] comp__ (n=comp_@89.137.6.138) joined ##slackware. [12:59] I have to say I'm doubtful of that fix, especially for a 512px image [13:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) joined ##slackware. [13:00] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.18.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.90.253) joined ##slackware. [13:00] well, so far iv'e tried ony 500x500, 512x512 and 300x300 on both original and patched libpng... [13:01] should this be reported to libpng folks? [13:01] oddsock: how did you try? and can you share an image that crashed the app? [13:01] oddsock: yes, definitely [13:01] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.229) joined ##slackware. [13:01] oddsock: also, do you have a link of where you found that patch? [13:02] it worked with gimp (edited it), as for link.. just a sec [13:03] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:03] you might want to check with libpng first, they might have fixed this already [13:03] here [13:03] http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1202 [13:03] hello slackers! [13:04] wow, that's an old one [13:04] hi shyko [13:04] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:04] yep, but reproduced with 1.2.40 & 1.2.37 [13:05] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:05] I'm looking for a new HD for my laptop, any suggestions? [13:05] oddsock: yeah, I'm suprised ;-) [13:06] oddsock: Also, I have to say this fix is very dangerous. [13:07] agreed [13:07] oddsock: long png_int_32 could carry values between -2billion to 2billion [13:07] int png_int_32 can only carry values between -32k to 32k.. [13:07] long=8 bytes, int=4 on slack64 [13:07] naex (n=naex@129.97.187.196) joined ##slackware. [13:08] eviljames: on x86_64, a C99 long is 8 bytes but an int is 4 bytes, *maybe* the *mismatch* is the problem here, especially if reading the file header [13:08] eviljames: doh! typedef unsigned long png_uint_32; [13:08] look, *32* ! [13:08] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:09] so yeah, a bug [13:09] U-Neeks (i=U-Neeks@201-34-230-213.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:09] huh? [13:11] although the comments say "(a png_uint_32 must be at least 32 bits long), but they don't have to be exactly that size", but they also say "Likewise, for 64-bit systems, you may want to have unsigned int for png_uint_32 instead of unsigned long." [13:11] mancha: a bug in that the code doesn't really do what seems to be expected [13:12] 32 -> 4 bytes, not 8 bytes [13:12] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:13] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:13] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:13] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Camarade_Tux: Well, I nominate you for going line-by-line through libpng and sorting out all instances of png_uint_32 [13:13] and/or png_int_32 [13:13] eviljames: ^^ [13:13] eviljames: I'd recompile -g -ggdb and use gdb ;p [13:14] Not allowed. [13:14] hahaha :P [13:14] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.92.180.253) joined ##slackware. [13:14] eviljames: sorry, busy recompiling a kernel right now ;-) [13:14] Camarade_Tux: isn't that like a 5 minute process for you :P [13:15] deco: libpng maybe, it's pretty small ;p [13:15] It's about 8 minutes [13:15] deco: but no! [13:15] Camarade_Tux: what is nabucho getting slow ? :P [13:15] Or, for Solaris, it's about 8 straight hours of compiling on my laptop at which point I eventually run out of swap and the whole thing dies in a futile exercise [13:16] deco: compiling a kernel inside a virtual machine -_- [13:16] eviljames: why 8 hours o_O [13:16] well, not yet [13:16] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:16] Camarade_Tux: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [13:16] eviljames: ;-) [13:16] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:16] oddsock, yeah, i'd email the libpng devs [13:16] deco: that's offtopic@ [13:16] :P [13:16] hello everyone [13:16] hi gar0t0 [13:16] maybe even attach a poc png, as long as its not x-rated [13:16] eviljames: sure :P [13:17] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [13:17] gotta go coding now - will email libpng team then, thanx folks [13:17] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-145-127.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:18] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-205-199-23-217.broadband.blic.net) left ##slackware. [13:19] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [13:19] naex (n=naex@129.97.187.196) left irc: "Leaving" [13:19] not attach, link, attaching means size_of_the_attachement * number_of_people_subscribed_to_the_mailing_list : at least 100 and an image of at least 50KB? could easily be more [13:20] Camarade_Tux: :) [13:21] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:21] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:22] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5.6E 2009-09-26 15:25 gapxpvirt.img [13:22] uhhhhhhhhhhhh [13:22] something a little off there... [13:23] qemu typo? [13:24] hahahahaha [13:24] wtf [13:25] spook: ^^ [13:25] spook: You have the biggest hard drive in existance or what? [13:25] spook: gaps ;p [13:25] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:25] Camarade_Tux: yes,, please mail it to me [13:25] its a qcow2 file. [13:25] rworkman: well, I can do it too but it was mancha ;p [13:25] but uh, filesystem hijinks [13:25] spook: hmmmmmmmmmmm [13:26] spook: does it boot? [13:26] eviljames: i just rm'ed it [13:26] and now you have a negative disk usage :P [13:27] crap, nbd never sees my partitions [13:27] hahah [13:28] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:28] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:29] U-Neeks_ (i=U-Neeks@201-24-47-130.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:30] supernewb (n=root@c-98-195-99-30.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:30] supernewb kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. 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[14:19] okay, nbd-client / qemu-nbd is SSLLOOWW [14:19] hehehe [14:19] qemu is slow by definition :P [14:20] nah, use it with kvm ;-) [14:20] and qemu-nbd is outside the virtual machine [14:20] Hello! [14:20] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-93-57.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:21] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [14:21] hi all [14:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:21] hello [14:22] what's nbd do anywho? [14:22] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:22] magic :) [14:23] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:23] useless :P [14:23] network block device [14:23] oh, so you can mount network devices? [14:24] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Client Quit [14:24] so you can serve and access block devices over network [14:25] Camarade_Tux: any reason why you'd be doing nbd, rather than iscsi? [14:25] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.51.193) left irc: "leaving" [14:25] interesting indeed [14:25] ananke: don't know iscsi [14:25] well, never tried it [14:26] also, I'm not sure I can use iscsi for that [14:26] Camarade_Tux: what are you trying to accomplish? [14:26] there is no qemu-iscsi ;p [14:26] ananke: I needed to mount a qemu qcow2 image [14:27] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.51.193) joined ##slackware. [14:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:29] GammelSokk (n=johskar@84.48.41.137) left irc: Client Quit [14:31] not sure what that means, i'm not familiar with qemu's nomenclature. i assume you're trying to boot from it? [14:32] ananke: qcow2 = the compression scheme that qemu uses on the virtual disk images (afaik). Looks like he wants to mount it and read/write the image. [14:34] :eviljames sorry about that im still learning [14:35] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:35] supernewb: hey, we all learn sooner or later.. no need to apologize, I'm just giving you a hard time [14:35] evening guys :-) [14:36] eviljames: you giving someone i a hard time? i simply cant belive it! :P [14:36] Yeah, that NEVER happens. [14:36] :eviljames well now i know how to create a user account from the command line instead of a wizard like in ubuntu [14:37] supernewb: Step 1 complete! Step 2: Read the links in /topic :P [14:37] funny eviljames always gives me a limp time = ( [14:37] ananke: yeah, I want to mount the disk image from outside qemu [14:40] can anyone recommend a distribution meant to be used as a live cd/usb ? i dont care if its bloated, i just want to have a lot of stuff i might need. my fav parted magic sadly isnt that complete. seems i will have to work on windows for a while, so a live usb will come handy. what do you think? fedora/suse/ubuntu/other? [14:41] sahk0: slax is very customizable. [14:41] Axius (n=ade@92.82.91.119) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Alan_Hicks: hmm. i dont know if i want that. but thanks for the suggestion [14:41] i'm going to try and make a sam fischer costume. [14:42] sahk0: Just check out their website. You can basically create a live CD with whatever you want on it. [14:42] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.193) joined ##slackware. [14:42] spook: fisher [14:42] yeah, ive seen that but are the modules guaranteed to work with the latest release? [14:42] sahk0: maybe Knoppix [14:42] thats what always troubled me [14:42] xsamurai: yay someone knows what i'm talking about! [14:43] spook: thae hard part is the goggles [14:43] sahk0: i use backtrack , really depends on your usage [14:43] neosix: knoppix changed to from KDE to some WM [14:43] backtrack is useful for network analysis [14:43] xsamurai: no, mostly office usage [14:43] lxde [14:43] spook: All you need is three green LEDs from Radio Shack. [14:43] that's the new knoppix wm [14:44] cyb3r3li0g (n=elio@c-67-164-158-190.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:44] sahk0: ...I didn't know that [14:44] i was eyeing that nightvision thingy on thinkgeek [14:44] spook: getting ready for Halloween 2010 ? [14:44] neosix: yeah, last release i think. so i dont know how complete that is either [14:44] xsamurai: not so much no [14:45] spook: jsut a new costume to wear while driving around in your rape van ? [14:46] i just think it would be fun [14:46] rape van...always wanted one of those [14:46] You wanna make a really scary costume, make the Burger King king. [14:46] yeah that guy is freaky looking [14:46] neosix: actually LXDE, not a WM [14:46] Alan_Hicks: i'd shoot that guy if I saw him in my room [14:47] xsamurai: I'd shoot that guy if I saw him broke down on the side of the road. [14:47] right in the buns [14:47] haha [14:47] http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/abf5/ [14:47] well, lxde, by definition, is a desktop env :P [14:48] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [14:48] still a long way to go to achieve that in my book. not without a power manager at the very least [14:48] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:48] spook: new cod4 super duper special edition box set comes with NV goggles [14:49] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] xsamurai: are you serious ? [14:49] centyx (n=centyx@h10.179.130.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] yeah [14:49] sahk0: did you try Ubuntu ultimate - ita has a lot of stuff [14:49] it* [14:50] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:50] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [14:50] Ubuntu Ultimate? I guess Canonical is really trying to make inroads on the Windows crowd. [14:50] hi [14:50] xsamurai: link? [14:50] Next release: Ubuntu Home Premium! [14:50] tripFantstic: bye [14:51] spook: google =) [14:51] Alan_Hicks: HAHAHAH [14:51] Alan_Hicks: But they've already released a version 7.. and that was like 2 years ago! [14:51] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:52] eviljames: Yes, but it sucked too. [14:52] Ubuntu Ultimate isn't from Canonical though, that's a project some guy started. [14:52] Hi, a friend of mine is looking for a linux distro to put on his old laptop ( circa 2003 ), and he's wanting to learn linux commands and how linux works etc... I immediately thought of Slackware, b/c it's the first distro I used, but I haven't used it since 1998... Is it still basically the same, aside from advances in software? [14:52] centyx: Yes. [14:52] yes [14:52] fire|bird: yes, you're right, I forgot to mention that [14:52] which distro have you evolved to, centyx ? [14:53] Alright, cool. Thanks. [14:53] thrice`: s/evol/devol/ [14:53] There, fixed that for you. [14:53] neosix: Also, it's just Ultimate Edition now, Ubuntu made him change the name. [14:53] thrice`: Switched to Debian in 1998, then to Ubuntu in 2005. [14:53] ah, right-o :) [14:53] centyx: yes except the kernel was a slim virgin in 1998 , now its 400 pound whale that will hump anything [14:53] certainly devol :) [14:53] lol [14:54] linus called it a big-fat pig [14:54] xsamurai: ha, ok [14:54] basically [14:54] He should have named it "Naked People Ultimate" and put a torrent out on Limewire. [14:54] Instant #1 Linux distro. [14:54] i predict that 2.7 will be linux on a diet. [14:54] haha [14:54] :) [14:54] tripFantstic: l2kernel. there wont be a 2.7 [14:54] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.55) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:55] spook: when GNU forks it there will :P [14:55] Alan_Hicks: or Ultimate Nudes Edition [14:55] higher levels of code reuse (not OO) but refactoring of redundant code [14:55] I think they should break the kernel up into different categories , home, office, ultimate , super duper ninja [14:55] bbl [14:55] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [14:55] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:55] nah [14:55] macavity: well it wont be the linux kernel then, it will be the gnu kernel. [14:55] xsamurai: :P [14:55] change one byte and we are good :P [14:55] super duper ninja would be your adversary then xsamurai [14:55] :P [14:55] I think they should start 2.7 ASAP and let 2.6 stabalize. [14:55] centyx: I have Slackware on quite old machine, and it's works like a charm :) [14:56] Alan_Hicks++ [14:56] it works* [14:56] There's just too many damn experimental things in the kernel these days. Filesystems that change on a daily basis, schedulars that aren't fixed and change with every release, etc. [14:56] altogether too true. [14:56] Alan_Hicks: theres the LTS releases of 2.6... [14:57] LTS? [14:57] long term support [14:57] How do they give LTS when they refuse to even guarantee ABI compatibility? [14:57] http://kernel.org/ [14:57] spook: Yeah, right. That's a complete joke. [14:57] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-67-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:57] eviljames: It means they will kinda maybe sorta try to fix issues with patches in those versions for a certain length of time. [14:57] Necos: true but he's fat and bloated , full of new features all over the place [14:58] rajin (n=_@d155092.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [14:58] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-67-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:58] that just means taht OpenSuSE shoehorns stuff in from kernels that are up to five x.x.X versions newer [14:58] Alan_Hicks: Just like they kinda maybe sorta try to fix issues now.. but if you aren't a core dev and submit a patch watch out for serious flamage? [14:58] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] eviljames: Basically, yeah. [15:00] The odd-even approach worked, except for one small problem: it took them forever to change .odd to .even 'cause they couldn't stabilize it. [15:01] I would have kept with the odd-even approach, but said after 8 months "Ok, this stuff is good enough to be stable, this stuff is still crazy. Take out the crazy stuff an let's make 2.even-rc1." [15:01] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] Basically, every year gets a new x.X stable release and a new x.Y unstable release. [15:01] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:c3) joined ##slackware. [15:02] If distros are dead set on back-porting all kinds of crap, let them. [15:02] i don't think pat has that much time on his hands... [15:02] Upstream shouldn't suffer to change the way they do everything so downstream can be happy. That's bass ackwards. [15:02] agreed [15:03] i bet if this had been a GNU operation we would still have been at 2.2.1137, but it would probably be able to withstand a nuclear blast [15:03] lol [15:03] this == the kernel [15:03] what ever happened to hurd? [15:04] it was too awesome for this world [15:04] lol [15:04] it is, and always will be, the OS of the future [15:04] they should have gone for "heavily modulized, yet monolithic" [15:04] macavity: If the kernel was a GNU operation, we'd still be at 0.17 or something, without support for basically anything. [15:05] the t^Hhurd is still there, progressing at about 100x the speed from some years ago (100*0 = 0) [15:05] i think there are far to many components of the kernel that cant be compiled as modules [15:05] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [15:05] macavity: that is for good reason [15:05] yes, laziness [15:05] so they dont have to define stable internal APIs [15:06] well no thats wrong [15:06] i want multiboot! i want to specify at bootloader time which scheduler i want to load [15:06] the module uses a stable internal api [15:06] but its already been replaced, twice. [15:06] the api that is [15:06] stable api's are for sissies [15:07] on the inside of the fence all bets are off.. Linus says so [15:07] ask the x.org folks ;) [15:07] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.57.111) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:07] anyway i'm going to sleep before the sun comes up [15:07] and ok, it has served us well in the sense that there are very few mainained out-of-tree binary drivers [15:08] but is still fucked up that the scheduler isnt glued in with a fixed api so anyone can make a scheduler, as along as it provides the expected api [15:09] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.33.230) joined ##slackware. [15:10] wait, what? [15:10] I haven't actually looked at the scheduler logic, but by virtue of having 3 pluggable (compile-time) schedulers, doesn't it imply that there is a scheduling api of some kind [15:12] eviljames: I think he wants a scheduling module. [15:12] Sort of like cpufreq governers. [15:14] All I want is a fix for http://www.xkcd.com/619 [15:14] (allegedly, already happening) [15:15] 5$ for legit win 7 disc and licence [15:15] how is M$ gaining from this? lol [15:15] davanger (n=davanger@50.Red-83-33-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] because the cost of reproducing a win 7 disc is damn near zero [15:16] So they charge people in first world countries $300, and $5 for your poor ass. [15:16] anyone know if there is a php 5.3.1 module for slackware 13 available somewhere? [15:16] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:16] yeah, you fucking canadian [15:16] GET A JOB [15:16] i tried compiling and im mising c-client [15:16] lol, they are giving them out for 5$ at my girlfriends university [15:16] i loaded it up in VirtualBox, i do not see what the hype is about [15:17] its like vista without the fancy graphics. [15:17] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:17] Alan_Hicks: exactly! and if it requires a reboot to change scheduler, so be it [15:17] php 5.3.1? anyone? [15:18] thrice`: I'll admit it, I lol'd :P [15:18] merciful_test (n=chatzill@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:18] :> [15:19] acidchild: that's monopolistic indoctrination! I'm calling the anti-trust police and they're gonna sue Microsoft so bad [15:20] centyx (n=centyx@h10.179.130.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left ##slackware. [15:20] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:21] eviljames: easy with the big words, you're gonna give him a seizure [15:21] davanger (n=davanger@50.Red-83-33-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:21] eviljames: do it! [15:23] yz250 (n=akis@unaffiliated/yz250) joined ##slackware. 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[15:31] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:35] actually they're giving it for free at some places [15:35] but I guess you pay for them through school fees [15:35] That libpng issue of earlier... oddsock failed to notice that the patch proposed in http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1202 was meant for pngconf.h file _in ezquake_ ... not in libpng... exactly as suggested in ezquake's pngconf.h file [15:35] So, nothing wrong with libpng in Slackware [15:36] He never told the channel wnat "my app" was either. [15:36] I think it was the gimp but I'm not sure [15:36] Well, I expect that there won't be a patch going into Slackware's version [15:36] but it's true the comments in the .h file said you maybe wanted to use "int" instead of "long" there [15:37] unrelated: in the kernel: CONFIG_FRAME_WARN: "setting it to 0 disables the warning", no, it doesn't... 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[16:18] alexcg (i=1000@226-186.dialup.mns.ru) left ##slackware. [16:19] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:19] how can I show something other then my user number? What setting do I modify? [16:19] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] that is when I log on irc. [16:20] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:21] what client do you use ? it is usually called username or ident in most clients [16:21] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:21] irssi [16:22] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [16:22] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] Hey Lord_Khelben, how are you? [16:23] jescis: /SET user_name according to google [16:23] i don't use irssi so i don't know [16:23] fire|bird: hello. nice i guess. how about you [16:23] Lord_Khelben: great, thanks. :) [16:24] Lord_Khelben, that's not it, that's my user name. I mean what you see when someone logs in or logs off :\ [16:24] jescis: ok, which part do you mean, for example, here's someones: alexcg!i=1000@226-186.dialup.mns.ru [16:25] you mean the i=1000 ? [16:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-123-102-86.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] ah sorry you said user number so i thought you mean i=1000 [16:25] fire|bird, yes [16:25] jescis: just a guess, do you have anything set for real_name? [16:25] yeah [16:26] fire|bird, think it could be host name? [16:26] what about /SET user_name ? [16:27] Scuzz, it's deeper then that [16:27] Scuzz: read above, Lord_Khelben ;) [16:27] jescis: could be, but host name, in my experience, should be blank in irssi, otherwise can cause connection issues. [16:27] oh there it is [16:27] lol [16:28] jescis: do you have anything set for host_name? [16:28] fire|bird: isn't the i=1000 the username part ? [16:28] fire|bird, no [16:28] jescis: ok, I'd leave it blank. :) [16:28] k [16:29] Lord_Khelben: that would be my guess, but not sure. I know someone who had that issue, but he is afk atm, when he gets back he can maybe help out. [16:29] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] /set real_name [16:30] mag0o, it is set [16:30] mag0o: checked that already. ;) [16:31] rambler (n=attracti@211.180.33.9) joined ##slackware. [16:31] didn't see anyone mention real_name, only user_name [16:31] mag0o: 15:25 « fire|bird» jescis: just a guess, do you have anything set for real_name? [16:31] jescis: can you do grep "^auth" /etc/inetd.conf [16:32] see, im a tard [16:32] lol [16:32] lol [16:32] i don't know if this is the solution, but irssi website mentions that if ident exists then /set user_name doesn't work [16:32] at least i felt smart for a little while [16:32] anyone have issues with Virtual Box on Slackware64? i downloaded the "amd64" version for slackware64 13.0 but when I go to create a virtual machine i can't create one that is 64bit [16:32] so check if you have the auth service in inetd running [16:32] rambler: which cpu do you have? [16:33] Camarade_Tux, core 2 duo 64bit [16:33] rambler: some hours ago i tried fbsd 8.0 64bit [16:33] so it works [16:33] rambler: more precisely, which model? also, laptop or desktop? [16:33] Linux vaio 2.6.31.6 #3 SMP Sun Nov 22 10:54:59 KST 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [16:33] laptop [16:34] rambler: you can't have 64bit guests with this cpu [16:34] do you get any specific error message in vbox ? [16:34] 8-S drat [16:34] well, you can have full virtualization with qemu-system-x86_64 but expect a slowdown between 10 and 20 (times, which means it'll feel like a 100MHz computer or less) [16:34] nope, it just won't let me select a 64bit host it seems [16:35] rambler: that is probably because vbox knows what it is doing :P [16:36] Camarade_Tux: does this cpu have any "feature" that forbids it from running 64bit guests ? [16:36] nice. i haven't heard about this before [16:36] Lord_Khelben: it lacks one [16:36] hello macavity [16:36] it takes hardware support [16:36] 'ello LK [16:37] Camarade_Tux: but it can virtualize 32bit guests, right? [16:37] yes [16:37] so, since the T5500 is of the same family as my T7400 it is probably a "spechul feature" that the smaller one cant [16:37] because mine sure has hell can [16:37] and it's not a problem for full virtualization, only for paravirt [16:38] macavity: I have a T5450 [16:38] and that can? [16:38] id guess not [16:38] no [16:38] intel and their stupid perceived advanteages and feature lockdown [16:39] I bought a Phenom II X4 955 partly because of that [16:39] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-233-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] at least the Core i7 is not multiplier locked any more [16:39] yeah, only cost-locked :) [16:39] hahaha [16:39] Camarade_Tux: what real speed does that run at? [16:40] 3.2GHz [16:40] btw, i would be more than willing to buy AMD cpus [16:40] its just that i wont touch Via or nForce chipsets with a fire poke [16:40] .. not to mention SiS [16:40] runnin at 31°C right now [16:40] whats wrong with nforce / [16:40] macavity: I have an ATI/AMD chipset ;-) [16:41] 785G ;-) [16:41] ugh, gross. [16:41] hahaha eviljames [16:41] Camarade_Tux: nice [16:41] Camarade_Tux: how is the kernel support? [16:41] notice: you should only except amd-bashing from eviljames :) [16:41] alice (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:41] s/except/accept/ [16:41] macavity: 13 installed fine, currently running 2.6.32-rc6 :) [16:42] eviljames: s/except/expect/ [16:42] sorry, I'm not in front of my comp, working on the other one [16:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:44] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:44] what is ubuntu coming to [16:44] first a cristain versiona nd now a satanic version [16:45] Action: toastytoast slowly shakes his head [16:45] exix [16:45] who cares about what *buntu does? [16:45] sorry, mistake - I', playing with irssi :) [16:45] those ubuntu versions are a joke [16:45] one of my friends is usieng the satanic edtion [16:46] i bet he is [16:46] which is why you are toasty 8-) [16:47] Action: rockybalboa searchs to play mario bros online ... [16:48] right now there are to my knoledge xubunut ubunut kubunut edubuntu ubuntu ultimate gamer eddtion ubuntu satanic and ubuntu cristian oh and fluxbuntu [16:48] thats 8 different versions [16:48] why [16:49] That's why I use Slackware ;-) [16:50] rockybalboa (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:50] hahaha christian edition... does it use bible quotes instead of fortune? [16:50] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: [16:50] there is a lubuntu too for lxde, i think [16:50] http://ubuntuce.com/ [16:50] fortune -O :P [16:50] thrice`: yes [16:50] lube-untu... that has a certain ring to it. [16:50] rajin (n=_@d155092.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Client Quit [16:50] :( ok so that makes 9 then [16:50] jescis: are you using screen/irc from another box? I ask because I had this i=1000 issue myself. [16:51] brbrbr (n=br@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [16:51] SineDeviance (n=chyeah@cpe-069-132-159-049.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] chopp, I have my Apple //e hooked up serially, yes [16:51] Is that solely an irc box [16:52] eviljames, it's solely your momma ;p [16:52] j/k [16:52] h0t [16:52] hi all... is slackware a build-from-source distro? [16:52] yes and no. [16:53] not in the sense you are thinking [16:53] + scibuntu, ubuntu multimedia, ubuntu muslim, ubuntu lite, devubuntu, ebuntu, nubuntu, [16:53] so there is package management? [16:53] It *is* built from source, but the distribution is in binary packages. additional packages (ie: SBo) are generally build from source. [16:53] ahh [16:53] ok then fine my point stills tand it is sad [16:53] apple2 (i=1001@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] can i make my slackware install as light as i want? [16:53] SineDeviance: Almost guaranteed that it specifically excludes the features you want, like dependency resolution. [16:53] toastytoas: even sader [16:53] all official packages (eg, ones maintained by the slackware overlord) are provided as binaries [16:54] SineDeviance, sure, but slackware doesn't keep track of dependencies for you [16:54] SineDeviance: Yes, and even lighter than you want. [16:54] chopp, apple2 is my //e [16:54] so, if you try to remove the GTK pakage, it won't tell you to stop [16:54] Action: brbrbr warmly greet anyone[except Xenu, maybe ;] [16:54] indeed, it will do *exactly* as you tell it to do. [16:54] well... let me explain my situation and you guys could tell me if you think slack is right for me? [16:54] neosix (n=neosix@79.101.197.73) left irc: "leaving" [16:55] jescis: well not sure about the apple part, but my fix on my slack headless server was an entry in rc.local. When I was using screen/irc from a router, I never was able to change it. [16:55] i am using my own heavily-modified flavor of ubuntu 9.10. Basically I am just running the ubuntu-base packages with openbox and gnome-panel on top. [16:55] SineDeviance: There is no gnome in Slackware. [16:55] So gnome-panel is not an option, at least not out of the box. [16:55] The problem is, there's a glitch or a memory leak somewhere that causes my system to use more than 400mb of ram after boot half of the times i boot it [16:56] normally it uses about 98mb at boot [16:56] That memory leak is referred to as "ubuntu" [16:56] gee, a memory leak? who saw that coming? 8-) [16:56] SineDeviance: how do you measure this memory leak? [16:56] granted slackware 12-something had a nasty xfce memory leak iirc [16:56] chopp, oh? [16:56] Nick change: rambler -> Rambler [16:56] cmk_zzz, i really don't. i use htop and it's showing the extra memory usage, but there's no binary in the list using that much [16:56] it's very odd [16:56] i have been banging my head against the wall over it for days [16:57] i only have 512meg of ram so it's a big issue [16:57] SineDeviance: and your system is slow and swapping? [16:57] cmk_zzz, half the times i boot it, yeah [16:57] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:57] SineDeviance: log in as root and run " echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" [16:57] sometimes it boots normally and i only have 98meg of usage [16:57] imho any memory leak is a big issue [16:57] check mem usage after that [16:57] bbiab I LOVE FOOD [16:57] mY first guess would be gnome =).... well, not really a slackawre related issue.. You are definatly better of in #ubuntu [16:57] s/of/off [16:57] Camarade_Tux, okay, lemme try it real fast [16:58] jescis: yeah I attributed it to no x session. "su - chopp -c 'source /etc/profile; source /home/chopp/.bash_profile; startx&'" fixed that up though. :) [16:58] Action: Rambler wonders if it should be called USuckToo instead of Ubuntu [16:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-155-1-113-216.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] grazymax (n=grazymax@host144-192-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Bye Bye" [16:58] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:58] Camarade_Tux, oddly, i cannot run that. even as su it gives me permission denied [16:59] su, not sudo? [16:59] SineDeviance, tried top? (use the "batch" option, -b i think) "top -b | less" [16:59] Rambler, well i was using htop, but i'll try it [16:59] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:00] Camarade_Tux, i tried it with su and sudo [17:00] you should cast "50 years of CPSU lvl 4" speell, 1st to get it working ;) [17:00] nvision (n=nvision@g224248078.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:00] SineDeviance: *that*, I can't tell you why [17:00] SineDeviance: does your problem happen after long uptimes? [17:01] Food love is good [17:01] Camarade_Tux, nope. if the system booted with the low usages like it should have, it'll run fine for hours [17:01] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui embora" [17:01] im foodsexual too, btw :) [17:01] my ram usage will always stay low [17:01] SineDeviance: hmm, ok, I had misunderstood [17:01] this wouldn't have fixed it anywa [17:01] y [17:01] ah [17:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-104.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] see, i disabled any services/upstart stuff that i didnt need [17:01] someone here sees dr house ? [17:02] i was thinking maybe something was still there [17:02] but i can't find it no matter how hard i try [17:02] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [17:03] SineDeviance: sounds pretty odd to me. And top sorted by memory usage doesn't give you anything? [17:04] cmk_zzz, nope, just the normal processes. top says they are using as much ram as they normally should [17:04] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:04] whatever it is, it's not showing up in any monitor [17:04] or if it's a memory leak from something i'm running, that isnt showing up either [17:05] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151150035.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:05] SineDeviance, How much are we talking about ? [17:05] Info: Processes 194 Uptime 1 day Memory 815.4/7980.0MB Client X-Chat 2.8.6 inxi 1.2.7 [17:06] some extra ram might be normal after some uptime.. [17:06] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-67-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:06] linXea, nah, this either happens or it doesn't. half the time i boot the system it's normal. half the time, i have this extra usage. it shows right as soon as i hit the desktop, not after any amount of uptime [17:06] i have conky running on startup so i can monitor [17:07] it just makes no sense [17:07] SineDeviance, checked in 'ps aux' ? [17:07] it's like there's some 300meg file that is getting loaded into ram for no reason [17:07] should be pretty easy finding what uses the mem [17:07] not yet [17:08] SineDevience: My guesses as the moment is that some service that eats memeory which starts up on some boots, for example updatedb or some indexing service, but that ought to show up in top [17:09] oh and there's something else [17:09] imless it is a kernel leak? [17:09] *unless [17:09] sometimes when it boots up with this high usage, i logout of my session and log back in, and it's gone [17:09] i.e. normal [17:09] yeah, but you don't see massive kernel leaks that often [17:09] SineDeviance, gnome ?... maybe gnome index-engine ? [17:09] linXea, none of that stuff is installed [17:10] cmk_zzz: no, but when you see them they tend to grow really freaking fast [17:10] i uninstalled all gnome crap except gnome-panel [17:10] cmk_zzz: eg, if it loses just one byte per context switch... [17:10] macavity, i dont think thats it, it doesnt grow anymore after i hit the desktop [17:10] you have gnome-panel = you have most of the needed gtk libs and there for most gtk/gnome issues should be possible [17:10] macavity: yeah, that would fill it up allright [17:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-123-102-86.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:11] SineDeviance: most strange indeed... [17:11] linXea, sure, but i'm running gnome panel right now, and with terminal/htop, xchat, rhythmbox running my ram usage is a cool 160meg [17:11] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:11] at this point i am thinking maybe i should just backup my system and my openbox settings and try something else [17:12] try that [17:12] if you can pinpoint the basterd we can do something about it [17:12] but i dont what distro to try [17:12] or even better... try slackware instead [17:12] you are not on slackware? [17:12] macavity, nah, i was considering going to it [17:12] no, he's untuntian .. [17:12] ....... [17:13] Action: macavity walks out on this one [17:13] SineDeviance, do you have a 32bit machine or a 64bit one? [17:13] ... good idea [17:13] Rambler, 32bit [17:13] apple2 (i=1001@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:13] SineDeviance, try slackware [17:13] easy isn't it? 8-) [17:13] Rambler, well, they said that slackware does not have any type of dependency resolution [17:13] =) even the 64bit slackware works like a charm =) ... no issues at all [17:14] you don't need dependency resolution if you do it in your mind [17:14] SineDeviance: it does. You are the dependency checker [17:14] SineDeviance: just do a full install like every other sensible slackware user [17:14] and that's not a hard thing to do [17:14] that means, that if i wanted to install an app, i would have to hunt down and compile the dependencies myself, right? [17:14] SineDeviance, what programs do you require in order to be happy with your operating system? [17:14] well "hunt down" is pretty easy.. just use slackbuilds.org [17:14] only if you need to [17:14] or even better, use sbopkg to do it for you [17:15] apple2 (i=1001@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] Slackbuilds has most things you need .... [17:15] all you gotta do is read the README for the source build and add the listed dependencies to the build queue [17:15] SineDeviance, and most software has already been compiled by someone [17:15] anyhow, time for me to hit the sack [17:15] nn all [17:15] rworkman, alienBOB, and TwinReverb already have package repositories [17:15] ...... and if you should (very rare) need to compile it your self it's not that big of a deal really [17:15] Rambler, openbox, gnome-panel, conky, wine, virtualbox, firefox/chromium, xcompmgr, frostwire, deluge, all the media codecs/flashplayer/java/etc, gimp, gedit, and thats really about it [17:16] what the heck is openbox? [17:16] a window manager [17:16] a very lightweight one [17:16] as for gnome-panel, you can use GWare but bleh [17:16] it's kinda like blackbox [17:16] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left ##slackware. [17:16] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:16] doh, I wanted to provide a link to the wikipedia "lisp" page to someone and it took me a really long time to understand what en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp was referring to >< [17:16] the only caveat is that it doesnt have a panel or 'bars' of any sort [17:16] so you have to use one of your choosing [17:16] i chose gnome-panel because it's easy to use [17:17] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [17:17] SineDeviance: there are plenty of other panels out there. [17:17] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/ [17:17] cmk_zzz, sure, but i like the gtk look [17:17] search for what you want in those two [17:17] and gnome-panel is easy to config [17:17] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.236.90.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:17] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [17:17] Rambler, okay, thanks [17:18] SineDeviance, well, why don't install slackware and return here if you have any issues get whatever you need... sounds good ? [17:18] so slackware comes by default with kde or xfce then? [17:18] i could use xfce4-panel [17:18] yes you could [17:19] linXea, because that's horribly inconvenient [17:19] "look before you leap" [17:19] linXea, because i'm not sure if i can handle it yet [17:19] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [17:19] _bruno (n=bruno@201-68-67-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:19] SineDeviance: well, you have vbox installed so just install it there and try it out [17:19] yeah, i can do that [17:20] Im out... o/ [17:20] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:20] awesome! http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/openbox/ [17:20] make sure you check for pkg/13.0/*.tgz [17:20] etc [17:20] .tgz and .txz are usually slackware packages [17:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:21] oh and also i use rhythmbox but i have no devotion to it. what media players do you guys recommend for slack? [17:21] amarok [17:21] i use audacious, xmms, and amarok [17:21] eviljames, eh, amarok uses a ton of ram. any others? [17:21] usually xmms and audacious. only amarok when i absolutely must [17:21] A1Robot (n=A1Robot@ip-205-194-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] and amarok is actually not that high on RAM consumption (but on your 512MB machine i would use something else, true) [17:21] Rambler, do you know if slackware has a package for Exaile? [17:22] SineDeviance: ah, yea, I forget thta your ram is limited. [17:22] what is that? [17:22] SineDeviance: exaile is at slackbuilds.org [17:22] Rambler, it's like amarok but built in gtk [17:22] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/exaile/ [17:22] ahh sweet [17:22] you may have to compile it yourself [17:22] Rambler: How much ram does Amarok really use ? [17:22] (slackbuilds is just a building mechanism which makes it easier) [17:22] let me fire it up [17:23] okay, well i'm gonna install slack in virtualbox then and play around with it [17:23] SineDeviance i'm devoted to mplayer; i think it's the best. [17:23] Rambler: 500 Megabytes is very much ram [17:23] i've tried others [17:23] DareDevil0 (n=linux@201.201.187.14) joined ##slackware. [17:23] tripFantstic, i like mplayer and vlc tbh. but i prefer exaile for music because it has a libary [17:23] library* even [17:23] gah [17:23] Hi is there any direct link to the 32bits Slackware 13 DVD version? [17:23] SineDeviance ok; i use fs for lib; ln-s's [17:23] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-13-145-102.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] I have been looking in the internet but all i can find is torrent [17:23] If GNU/Linux doesnt stay under 500 Megabytes ill switch ORDER IN COURT! [17:24] DareDevil0: http://www.slackware.com/getslack <- pick a mirror [17:24] tds.net is usually a good one [17:24] DareDevil0: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso [17:24] ( ____ \( ____ \( ____ \( ____ \( ____ \ [17:24] | ( \/| ( \/| ( \/| ( \/| ( \/ [17:24] | (__ | (__ | | | (__ | (_____ [17:24] Channel flood from A1Robot -- kicking [17:24] | __) | __) | | | __) (_____ ) [17:24] | ( | ( | | | ( ) | [17:24] A1Robot kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:24] what's that say? [17:24] bahahahahhaha [17:24] wtf [17:24] hahahahahaha [17:25] woah, why are there six isos? [17:25] get the first [17:25] SineDeviance, those are CDs [17:25] get the DVD [17:25] ea_ (n=ea@dynamic-213-198-209-201.adsl.eunet.rs) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:25] yea dvd [17:25] Rambler, well i dont have a dvd drive [17:25] ah krap [17:25] cant i just install from 1 cd? [17:25] the first CD is a requirement [17:25] Thanks a lot [17:25] Does this Slackware 13 supports gnome? [17:25] nop [17:26] SineDeviance, the first 3 are all thats needed for a full install [17:26] but it can be got externally [17:26] there are 3rd party gnome-for-slackware repositories [17:26] like GWare [17:26] edman007, then what's on the other 3? [17:26] source code [17:26] other directories [17:26] ah [17:26] Rambler, so it can be installed? [17:26] DareDevil0: yes [17:27] (from slackware.org/getslack) Slackware 13.0 x86 Install ISO disc 1 (A/AP/D/E/L/N, bootable installer, kernels, testing/, Slackbook) Slackware 13.0 x86 Install ISO disc 2 (F/K/T/TCL/X/XAP/Y, L source) Slackware 13.0 x86 Install ISO disc 3 (KDE/KDEI) [17:27] DareDevil0: fwiw, there is also gsb (Gnome Slackbuild) that is more updated than gware, and is for slackware 13. [17:27] the dvd has all 6 CDs of stuff on it, so if you just want to download and install getting the 3 CDs is a bit quicker, but needs more burnuing [17:27] i usually don't bother with gnome only because it makes Xfce angry [17:27] firedix, for installing Slackbuild i need first to have installed slackware? [17:27] Action: Rambler hugs Xfce [17:28] DareDevil0: yes [17:28] okay is it just me or are half the mirrors on the /getslack page down? [17:28] Action: tripFantstic hugs ratpoison [17:28] I really appreciate your help gentleman thank you [17:28] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:28] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:28] ok to those who wanted to know how much RAM amarok uses [17:29] less than firefox? [17:29] 9350 robert 20 0 956m 86m 42m S 4 4.3 0:19.55 amarok [17:29] 9350 robert 20 0 956m 86m 42m S 4 4.3 0:19.67 amarok [17:29] 9350 robert 20 0 956m 86m 42m S 4 4.3 0:19.78 amarok [17:30] 3*86MB? :D [17:30] okay so i'm going to use torrent [17:30] 3GB?! [17:30] no no no i screwed up /exec -o [17:30] heheh [17:30] should've specified # iterations instead of | head -n3 [17:30] you used -b? [17:30] ^^ [17:30] yes [17:30] without -n [17:31] without -n (# iterations) you get it until it's killed [17:31] so anyways, yes, 956m [17:31] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.153.83) left irc: "Leaving." [17:31] Amarok does not use 1GB of ram. [17:32] maybe if it has a large file loaded? [17:32] That likely includes any/all shared Qt stuff and Xorg stuff and whatever else.. [17:32] i'm playing a FLAC but it's not a large FLAC [17:32] yeah that's virtual so maybe that's how much it requested (not how much it's actually using) [17:32] notice resident is 86MB [17:33] well, i'll be back when the downloads finish [17:33] thanks [17:33] SineDeviance (n=chyeah@cpe-069-132-159-049.carolina.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] and mmap()'ed memory too I think [17:34] Rambler: how big the flac? [17:36] -rwxr-x--- 1 robert users 30M 2009-01-11 22:05 /home/robert/Music/Christian/Steven Curtis Chapman/For the Sake of the Call/What Kind of Joy.flac [17:36] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-48-253.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:36] i'm gangsta like that: all my music is in FLACs [17:37] Where can you go to dl cplay these days? [17:37] I've been hearing forever that soon KDE will have drag -n- drop transcoding [17:37] as in, you drag your FLAC file to your iPod and it transcodes MP3 for you [17:37] the playlist was easily 514 entries [17:37] eviljames, i've been envisioning such a thing for a very long time [17:38] eviljames: does it warn you "Warning: this is going to take a long time and eat all your CPU, are you sure?" [17:38] (morning, peoples) [17:38] Rambler: A friend of mine was working on it as a SoC project a few years ago.. dunno if it ever got put into KDE or not [17:38] Urchlay: Nah, it should just clog your system up. Poeple will remember that [17:38] Urchlay, why would that eat all your CPU? [17:38] you can renice that anyways.... [17:38] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.50) joined ##slackware. [17:39] I think he means transcoding XviD -> DVD for his donkey porn collection. [17:39] donkey porn? where? [17:39] I knew that would get you excited. [17:39] Pervert. [17:39] heh [17:39] penguin pr0n is better [17:39] eviljames: there's a fuse-based FS that does that ;-) [17:39] transcoding a flac to a mp3 will take enough time that the UI will feel slow [17:39] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.225) joined ##slackware. [17:40] Not on my beowulf cluster it won't. [17:40] penguin pr0n to me is watching the stats on your beowulf cluster or your network as you do distcc and such [17:41] oh well, l8r sk8rz [17:41] Rambler (n=attracti@211.180.33.9) left irc: "Leaving" [17:41] is there such a thing as a grendel cluster? [17:41] "l8r sk8rz", I haven't seen anyone say that in 20+ years (wonder if he's the same guy) [17:41] hahah I said l8r the other day [17:42] yeah, but the sk8rz part you probably didn't [17:42] no, certainly not. [17:42] that used to be the signoff line of a BBS sysop in atlanta, back in the 300 baud days... [17:42] rambler lol [17:43] Urchlay suffering slackbacks? :) [17:43] hey polymorphic|banner [17:43] err Urchlay [17:44] radios|birdbaths [17:44] carbon|floater [17:44] tripFantstic: I wouldn't say "suffering" [17:44] ok [17:45] eviljames: so I mostly fixed my ardour/hydrogen/jack issues [17:45] mrmoneyc (n=mrmoneyc@66.160.197.151) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Urchlay: actually flac->mp3 could be faster than I/O [17:46] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [17:46] stucco!!! [17:46] :o [17:47] sup tripFantstic [17:47] not much [17:47] Urchlay: btw, http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_ip?ips=211.180.33.9 [17:47] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:47] tripFantstic: same here :P [17:47] kk [17:48] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] damn i mispelled my nick again? [17:49] Nick change: tripFantstic -> tripFantastic [17:49] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:49] Urchlay: orly? [17:49] Urchlay: Do tell, what was the story? [17:50] tripFantastic: yes [17:50] eh, I switched to using my 32-bit laptop [17:50] oh well [17:50] tripFantastic: you fixed it [17:50] Woohw, first time I experience a crash from X :-( [17:50] and a 2.6.31.6 kernel with realtime patch [17:50] Urchlay: weird.. my desktop & laptop are both 64 bit, and I don't have much (or really any outside of some xruns) problem [17:50] and followed this guide to set the priorities of all the kernel irq service threads: http://subversion.ffado.org/wiki/IrqPriorities [17:51] Good link [17:51] *and* manually told jackd to use priority 60 (its default when you just tell it to go realtime is actually lower) [17:51] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] sup all [17:52] guys, is this familiar to anyone? [17:52] LILO gives Fatal : raid_setup : stat ("dev/hda") [17:52] got all the eqipment to get my server up [17:52] well, dev/sda but its the same [17:52] Her0 (n=jkemp@70-13-145-102.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:53] eviljames: I seem to get about one xrun every 20-30 minutes, regardless of what I'm doing (it happens even if I run jack with no jack clients at all, and just let it sit there idle) [17:53] but I can live with that I think [17:53] yeah, I see about the same.. [17:53] but that's on a non RT system [17:54] oh, and I've got latency set to 8.3 ms [17:54] wow, Mine is ~60ms [17:54] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-48-253.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:54] via usb-audio + no RT [17:54] this is crappy onboard audio [17:55] how can you do anything with 60ms latency? I mean you record your drum track OK, then go back to put guitar on top and...? [17:56] ah, found the problem [17:56] when you go to play your guitar + drums mixed together, the guitar notes are 60ms behind the drum hits? or is it smart enough to do something about that? [17:59] I broke cd access again, grrr [17:59] Action: deco kicks Camarade_Tux [18:00] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-48-253.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.39) left irc: [18:01] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] i gotta trim my kernel as well, it's currently in "slutty slackware" mode [18:02] Compensate (n=Courser@119.206.100.129) joined ##slackware. [18:02] nvision (n=nvision@g224248078.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [18:03] gn all [18:07] deco: sup home slice [18:08] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Camarade_Tux: if you have an IDE device thats not registering in the bios what do u do? [18:09] Urchlay: I think ardour is smart enough to correct for that.. or maybe I'm just not precise enough of a player for it to matter :P [18:09] eviljames: same question as Camarade_Tux [18:09] hey beatzz [18:09] deco: same question as eviljames and Camarade_Tux [18:09] actually cd/dvd was still there but not as /dev/dvd ;p [18:09] Im inches away from getting slack onto my new box [18:09] and setting up a server [18:09] no idea :) [18:09] beatzz: I throw it away and get a new one. [18:09] BUT the IDE DVD-rom is not recognized by the bios [18:10] set as master on its own ide channel, or on CS [18:10] jumpers? cables? [18:10] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:10] auto settings? detect ? [18:10] auto [18:10] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [18:12] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [18:12] eviljames: if it's not smart enough, I suppose you can manually correct for it (drag the whole track)... it's also supposed to be smart enough to know the tempo of the song and be able to "snap to grid" like gimp does [18:12] indeed, I believe it is that smart. [18:13] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-108-252.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:15] although I haven't messed with that yet (haven't told it the tempo of any song, to see what it does) [18:15] :D SWEET [18:15] SUCCESS!!!! [18:15] time to make a bootable install USB :D [18:15] Action: beatzz raises the roof [18:16] Action: Compensate closes the roof [18:16] dont touch it Compensate !!! its on fire!!! [18:16] Action: fire|bird duct tapes beatzz to the roof [18:16] Action: beatzz hugs fire|bird [18:17] im so happy right now, i even maby got a job working in a computer office tomorrow!!! [18:17] Action: Compensate stabs beatzz [18:22] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwn@75.104.27.191) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:22] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwn@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:27] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [18:27] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwn@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:28] Panzer_ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.123) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:29] close to a full moon? [18:29] The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (98% of Full) [18:30] i see it outside my window [18:31] We got SUNLIGHT TODAY [18:31] This is a pretty exciting day for me. [18:31] I haven't seen the sun in 3 damn weeks [18:31] hopefully you spent it indoors infront of your computer [18:31] heck yes [18:31] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:32] eviljames: your windows being shut and blinds pulled doesn't count. ;) [18:32] But the window from where my computer is to the big blue room was more pleasant than usual to look at. [18:32] eviljames: you finally got a day off from the salt mine? [18:32] exit [18:33] :/ [18:33] fail [18:33] peace all, gana make the DVD usb bootable [18:33] then get my server pwntzin [18:33] tuxdev (n=tgoya@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [18:33] DVD-rom was crap [18:33] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] he sold it to me for 10 bucks [18:33] beatzz: hate to say toldyaso [18:33] beatzz: :P [18:33] anyone uses the kde 4.3 ? [18:33] word [18:33] <- [18:34] peace [18:34] paul424: crazy ppl and hobo's [18:34] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:34] xsamurai: in that case, which is eviljames, crazy or hobo? [18:34] no come one . don't get rid of me so easy. [18:34] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [18:34] fire|bird: both a crazy hobo [18:34] paul424: how about just asking what you want about it? [18:34] xsamurai knows me better than I know myself [18:34] Nick change: Panzer_ -> Panzer [18:34] i rolled my own qt338 && kde-3.5.10 for slack13 [18:34] I mean I have found there is significant threeshold in 1280x1024 and 1024x768 [18:34] xsamurai: Ah, a crazy hobo, that actually sounds about right. [18:35] eviljames: i watch you every night through the bushes [18:35] for the desktop env. Yeah i know its not your bussiness [18:35] eviljames: Ah, so xsamurai is the crazy guy you were telling me about, whom you thought was stalking you. :P [18:36] xsamurai: Obviously you haven't heard about the epic cat vs. skunk fights that happen in the bushes outside my building. [18:36] hahahaha [18:36] heard about those too. [18:36] xsamurai: wow, low standards. [18:36] :P [18:36] im guessing the cat loses [18:36] xsamurai: In a cat vs. skunk fight EVERYBODY loses. ESPECIALLY ME. [18:36] even if the cat technically wins, he smells like a loser afterwards [18:36] Because when that skunk drops a bomb it ruins my night. Every. Damn. Time. [18:36] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:37] eviljames: i ran over a dead skunk on the freeway, car stunk for days [18:37] hm, if you kill a skunk, does he spew his stench as a last reflex action? [18:37] cant imagine one next to the house [18:37] gf's gettin' friendly things are going good for eviljames, then suddenly BAM skunk stink. Total mood killer. [18:37] lol ^^ [18:37] hahaha [18:37] cock blocked by a skunk [18:37] eviljames: in the shower? [18:37] Urchlay: I found out about getting a skunk de-stinkified. Apparently they make really poor pets, because they're mostly blind and too stupid to find their way home if they get loose. [18:38] xsamurai: skunks cannot be so bad, look at that boy : http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_04/2SkunkNNP_468x627.jpg [18:38] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.89.181) joined ##slackware. [18:38] i know if you hit a skunk with your car on the highway it will make your whole car stink, happened to me, i was doing 70+ and made mincemeat out of a skunk so the stink gland was probably smashed to smitheens [18:39] paul424: that kid is brit, he wouldnt know about smells [18:39] xsamurai: agreed. [18:39] I mean, have you ever been around british women? [18:39] mow tea govna [18:40] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [18:40] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:41] eviljames: damn good thing for you kethry's probably sleeping. ;) [18:41] search youtube for Amy Walker [18:41] dialects... [18:42] she's good [18:42] Pig_Pen: is it a naught video ? [18:42] yes she is [18:42] no, Amy Walker is rated G [18:42] she does accents [18:42] ummm no thanks [18:42] google for "Amy Walker 21 accents" [18:43] although we hired a british chick to do the voice over for our demo cd [18:43] clients loved it [18:43] They masturbated to it [18:43] Of course they loved it [18:43] people cared less about the content [18:43] and more about the voice over [18:43] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] hahaha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMKmQmkJ9gg :P [18:44] eviljames: for you ;-) [18:44] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [18:44] maby i should stick around here wile I do this slackware-USB install thing [18:44] just in case ;P [18:45] chopp: hahahah [18:45] Camarade_Tux: sfw? [18:45] beatzz: ohgodno, please don't [18:45] :P [18:45] Camarade_Tux: faaaaake [18:45] viljames: music, Toxicity by three chicks [18:45] xsamurai: lol, what? [18:46] oh yea [18:46] I saw that already [18:46] they are off [18:46] Camarade_Tux: I find that to be much better than the original [18:46] actualy fire|bird i think i can manage this on my own [18:46] eviljames: ;-) [18:46] Camarade_Tux: Which still means it is awful [18:46] beatzz: phew, scared me there for a bit. :P [18:46] Camarade_Tux: Just better than what SOAD could possibly have done... [18:46] everything i need should be in /media/SlackDVD/usb* [18:46] xsamurai: they move far too much to be able to play violin imho [18:46] eviljames: ^^ [18:47] xsamurai: and yes, it is fake. None of the violins are plugged in. This is a music video for their string arrangement. [18:47] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:47] eviljames: *but* http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2656/mybanner48d445a318e18dq0.jpg (that one is *not* sfw) [18:47] then cram it. I'm @W [18:48] haha [18:48] nah, 'cause you'll be tempted to take a look at it ;-) [18:48] eviljames: It's a girl on a couch, clothed. :P [18:48] showing cleavage though, and short shorts on. [18:48] with a nice cleavage [18:48] well, I am a big fan of cleavage... [18:49] my guess is it's Camarade_Tux after the operation. [18:49] even fire|bird is, not of these ones and not of females but still -_- [18:49] fire|bird: ^ ^ [18:51] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:52] Compensate (n=Courser@119.206.100.129) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] hmm [18:52] this sorta sounds like i wont have any packages once i do this [18:53] i cant get the full dvd's worth of stuff installed via the usb install method? [18:53] i just read README_USB.txt [18:53] depends on how much space you have as far as I know. [18:54] i got 8Gb's on my stick [18:54] should hold it all [18:54] got a new monitor and video card [18:54] but this is saying the usbboot.img will only run the setup program [18:54] juice: congrats [18:54] time to install new video card gts 250 1gb super clocked [18:54] and not any packages [18:54] ? [18:54] 23" samsung lcd 2048x1152 [18:54] 50000:1 contrast ratio [18:55] juice: nice. enjoy :) [18:55] yeah gotta reboot [18:55] so I can install the new card [18:55] this one is a 8600gts [18:55] which works fine but ya now [18:55] know [18:55] I got a bonus for work [18:55] so I spent some of it [18:56] :) [18:56] I wouldn't mind half of the screen :) [18:56] lol [18:56] All your screen are belong to me. :) [18:56] bbl [18:57] later juice :) [18:57] i love my 28 [18:57] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.229) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs his 15" [18:57] but well, in centimeters, it's at least 30 -_- [18:58] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] nuts, alienBOB's tutorial is cut short [18:59] it dosent explain how to get all the packages onto ur usb device as well as the usbboot.img [19:00] you don't, you put them somewhere else [19:00] well, that's how *I* do [19:00] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:00] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:01] or you put them *inside* the usbboot.img but I doubt you can mix both [19:01] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:02] brbrbr (n=br@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:02] ok, so, i do the usbboot.img and install linux, then, boot linux, copy the packages content to my usb stick, plug it into new comp w/ minimal install, and do slackpkg install /mnt/disk/packages/*.tgz ? [19:03] no [19:03] brbrbr (n=br@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [19:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-106-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:05] usbboot is just a kernel and the needed setup file. [19:05] so there would be no slackpkg w/ it ? [19:05] tinkerton (n=tinkerto@ip-142-197-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] it will not install anything without the packages [19:05] juice (i=1000@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:05] Panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:06] ananke you little fuckhead. How are you doing tonight ? [19:06] so theres no way to install slackware from a usb device, far enough so i can installpkg's ? [19:06] I want ananke on a barbecue stick [19:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] beatzz: do you not have a dvd drive? [19:07] Well done, like shaft would have done that prick nazi. [19:07] + [19:07] +3 [19:08] beatzz: isn't it possible to create another partition for packages on a usb after you load usbboot.img there? [19:08] negitive XGizzmo [19:08] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [19:08] john_dee: no [19:08] beatzz: 2 usb sticks? [19:08] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:08] panzer: love the game, love the game. [19:08] i have a usb stick 8gb, and a usb hd 150 gbs [19:09] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:09] tinkerton: "? [19:09] panzer [19:09] ? [19:09] you keep saying my name. yet you have not finished the statement [19:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Client Quit [19:09] game [19:09] beatzz: beatzz are you installing to that usb harddrive? [19:09] which game? [19:10] How stupid are you ? [19:10] no, i want to install to the HD thats inside the computer. [19:10] the IDE hd [19:10] ok copy the packages to the usb hd [19:10] tinkerton: if you wanna troll, better /quit right now [19:10] That's the lamest troll ever, if its a troll. [19:10] boot off the usb stick mount the usb hd somewhere ans install the packages from that mount point [19:10] not troll actually but be annoying [19:10] eviljames: yes [19:11] it is annoying [19:11] Camarade_Tux: To begin with, who are you and why arent you trolling ? [19:11] oh this one is going to get good [19:11] Til I see TUX there aint nothing TUX about you. Id rather watch Shaft [19:12] XGizzmo: ok, but john_dee had a good idea, cant i just make 2 partitons on my 8Gb USB stick? with the usbboot.img on one, (sda1) and the packages on another (sda2)? [19:12] no [19:12] why wouldent that work? [19:12] or maybe boot, unplug, put the packages on the key [19:12] usbimage will wipe out any partiton you create. [19:12] once booted, everything should be in ram [19:12] tinkerton: It's probably best if you unplug your computer. it will run much faster that way. [19:13] XGizzmo: isn't img just a boot partition? [19:13] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:13] eviljames: don't forget to tell me when you visit France ;p [19:13] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) joined ##slackware. [19:13] Camarade_Tux: I'll have to tell you, because I'm gonna crash on your couch [19:13] hahaha ;p [19:14] ur in France Camarade_Tux ? [19:14] I'll make you drink enough so that you can sleep wherever I want you to ;) [19:14] beatzz: yes [19:14] thats awsome, i wana go there someday. Studied a little bit of the language for a while recently. [19:15] got through like 9 lessons outa 50. :/ [19:15] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:15] john_dee: as far as i know there in no partition at all. [19:16] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:16] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:16] he, well, it's a start ;-) [19:17] XGizzmo: you're probably right. i just read some (mis)information about the possibility.. [19:17] learning french is easy. The work for horse is cheval and the rest follows in the same way [19:17] es ca vous voudreia boui de la bier? [19:17] the other day [19:17] beatzz: hahaha :P a few mistakes ;p [19:18] thats about as far as i got. [19:18] i can pronouce it perfectly [19:18] tgm_ (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [19:18] eviljames,, sounds scary, i'd pack a chastity belt :) [19:18] And then i told Tally AppleBottom (Ananke) that her pussy would taste less like EvilJames's pussy if she smoked eviljames [19:18] And put EvilJames on a stick [19:18] For later smoking [19:18] tinkerton: That makes a lot of sense. [19:19] tinkerton: Could you try re-phrasing it in English? [19:19] Can someone kill that fucking blowhard btw ? [19:19] o_o [19:19] driver thru the head perhaps ? [19:19] :) [19:19] naex (n=naex@76-10-183-138.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] :O [19:20] Shut up, im fuckin eatin arent I. Insensitive clods. [19:20] could i make my laptop like a NFS server? [19:20] yes [19:20] tinkerton: English. Do you speak it? [19:20] and install over my network? [19:20] Batter UP! [19:20] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:20] divine jobs doesn't want you to pirate os x, tinkerton %)) [19:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Where do you dig these morons up ? [19:21] beatzz: yes [19:21] This place is probably going to be so much nicer once I /ignore tinkerton [19:21] Id think a chaingun, like perhaps a minigun could be good just about now [19:22] yeah, aim the channel and fire :) [19:22] Useless Emoo [19:22] eviljames: let me know how that works out for you [19:22] *aim at [19:22] rworkman: ping (total idiot alert) [19:22] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.92.180.253) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] hmm this looks like a saturday project for me. [19:22] tgm (n=tgm@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:22] maby i'll lay off it till then [19:23] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:23] Guys, can someone tell me if tinkerton has been kickbanned yet? I don't like having stale ignores on my system. [19:23] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:23] nope [19:23] soon me thinks [19:23] Im ok, thank you very much [19:23] eviljames: we will let you know [19:23] chopp: Its "methinks" btw ;) [19:24] blow me kthxbai [19:24] ok? yeah, right! :)) [19:24] Good time for an unig. [19:24] well the troll is back [19:24] nachox: ping [19:24] U-Neeks (i=U-Neeks@201-34-230-213.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:24] tinkerton: both are grammatically and semantically correct. I'm back to questioning your English abilities. [19:24] pong [19:24] firedix (n=firedix@host209.201-252-171.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [19:25] panzer: Do you have some sort of malfunction ? [19:25] whats up? [19:25] gots a bit of a troll here. [19:25] nachox: tinkerton [19:25] Action: john_dee gets popcorn and coke. bring it on, some good ol' asskick %) [19:25] nachox: just a troll alert. [19:26] eviljames: Youre as fun as a baked pie based in a basin and then smoked in sulphuric acid [19:26] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:26] if only he were at least a bit funny ='( [19:26] what exactly is a troll? [19:26] tinkerton: Lisa? Is that you? [19:26] hehe [19:26] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=tinkerto@*.dialup.ice.net' by nachox!n=nacho@190.51.51.154 [19:26] tinkerton kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [19:26] \o/ [19:26] thanks :) [19:26] goodbye, mary [19:26] booyah [19:26] lol, he earned it [19:26] thank you sir. [19:26] no problem [19:26] thanks for the heads up [19:26] very nice. [19:27] so a troll is a random person that comes in and causes trouble? [19:27] no problem [19:27] oh, god. he's in my PM now [19:27] aaaaaaaaa [19:27] hey me too [19:27] ./ignore [19:27] what pourpous do they serve? [19:27] just killin time being lame online? [19:27] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [19:28] we're still trying to find out [19:28] john_dee: use irssi? [19:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:28] john_dee: whitelist.pl ftw [19:28] chopp: exactly :) [19:29] fire|bird: nope. colloquy. or whatever it spells ^) [19:29] john_dee: ah, ok. irssi has a whitelist script, blocks pm's from everyone exept those you have on the whitelist. [19:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:30] sup dive [19:30] that is not bad. [19:30] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:30] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:30] fire|bird: np. i'll have some fun %) [19:30] I wonder how he behaves in #sendmail [19:31] hey fire|bird [19:31] hi Reticenti [19:32] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:32] juice (i=1000@65.28.97.1) joined ##slackware. [19:32] wow this is nice [19:32] 2048x1152 [19:33] took me a minute to figure out why it was all fuzzy [19:33] hahaha, "it" noticed I had joined #sendmail and it's PM'ing me now ^^ [19:33] was running at 1024x68 and stretching [19:33] 768 [19:33] hahaha :P [19:33] now, give me your screen, not kidding -_- [19:34] :\ i wish i had a nice monitor [19:34] xNinja (n=dotinsea@78.154.214.155) joined ##slackware. [19:34] hello [19:34] i was connected with no problem through wireless but after i plugged the cable i think the default route has been changed to use the wired network, but i want to use the wireless network as my default route, because wired network has no internet [19:36] http://www.slackbook.org/html/network-configuration.html [19:36] fire|bird: haha. yeah, ignore is just one click away ^) good program [19:36] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.89.181) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] i got this for 200 bucks [19:37] samsung 23" [19:37] i am having to resize all my windows for xchat to giant [19:37] lol [19:38] so small [19:38] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:38] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:39] Action: Camarade_Tux triple-head-butt-fly-rotating-back-stellar-mega-kicks juice [19:39] :) [19:40] hehe [19:40] i didn't realize the difference maybe I should have went with a 19 [19:40] but I watch a lot of hulu [19:40] die bitch -_- [19:40] so it should be nice for that [19:40] :P [19:42] argh! http://blog.didrocks.fr/index.php/post/Ubuntu-Party-Paris-%3A-5-000-visitors [19:43] This java code I'm executing currently is like a duracell battery. It runs and runs and runs.... [19:43] for over an hour already :( [19:43] err, I'm using dd if=/dev/zero of=truc bs=65536 to fill free space with zeroes and I'm nearing a full drive, but my free space is increasing a bit :P [19:43] pprkut, you should see my backup script before complaining [19:44] heh [19:44] last i check it stalled in an scp and unstuck a week later [19:45] brbrbr (n=br@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:45] hahaha [19:45] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:45] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:45] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:47] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:48] jgor (i=jgor@rrcs-71-42-72-54.sw.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Reconnecting" [19:48] i just read that it's estimated that google has 2 million servers worldwide [19:48] jgor (i=jgor@odin.indiecom.org) joined ##slackware. [19:48] thanks Reticenti [19:48] cya [19:48] xNinja (n=dotinsea@78.154.214.155) left ##slackware. [19:49] Reticenti: do you think they'll care if I "borrow" one of them? :) [19:50] =D [19:50] j0z (n=j0z@187.58.246.225) joined ##slackware. [19:50] alphad64_ (n=alphad64@41.207.31.90) joined ##slackware. [19:52] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.18.104) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:52] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:53] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:53] is raid and linux fairly stable? [19:53] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:54] Reticenti: I think you'll find more questionability around hardware than you will around raid and linux [19:54] Reticenti, yes buy adaptec 100% [19:54] no problems [19:55] Just don't pick up any Promise raid controllers. :P [19:55] cool [19:55] Reticenti: for instance, I have a fairly expensive hardware raid setup, and the damn card keeps having sparse but consistent IO failures, requiring hardware reset [19:55] and adaptec cards are worth more than my entire comptuer lol [19:55] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@84.19.169.252) joined ##slackware. [19:56] Reticenti: mine's a HighPoint card, and its the card's problem, not the driver or OS (went through the problem extensively with the manufacturer) [19:56] ah [19:56] Reticenti: so I'd say my experience validates the advice - get a good card, its worth its weight in gold [19:56] fake raid, i like it a lot [19:56] I might have an Adaptec Fast Wide SCSI-II Ultra card around here that still works... want it? :P [19:56] :) [19:57] yes! [19:57] lol [19:57] I dont have any scsi hdd [19:57] yeah, software raid is good, too - no card woes [19:57] is software raid in linux stable? [19:57] yes, very [19:57] 3ware/lsi make decent cards also. [19:58] i have too many torrents, my 200gb ~ drive is almost full ;\ [19:58] yes [19:58] hahaha, tinkerton was on #sendmail too and had been banned ^^ [19:58] not kicked [19:59] and he left right after his ban was lifted [19:59] is it possible to mix sata and ide hdd's in software raid? [19:59] tinkerton the stinkerton [19:59] DareDevil0 (n=linux@201.201.187.14) left irc: "Leaving" [19:59] Pig_Pen: yes ;p [20:00] Reticenti: yes, you can mix any block devices [20:00] Reticenti: you can even raid nbd devices, if you want to be adventurous :) [20:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:01] heh [20:01] now to get money to buy more harddrives [20:01] get SSD! [20:01] ah the joys of beinga poor college student [20:01] i wish [20:02] juice (i=1000@65.28.97.1) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] i'd jizz in my pants if i could get / except /home on a ssd [20:02] alphad64_ (n=alphad64@41.207.31.90) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:04] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.90) joined ##slackware. [20:04] buy a netbook? [20:05] tuxdev (n=tgoya@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [20:05] that'd be nice too [20:06] 17:01:57 < Reticenti> ah the joys of beinga poor college student [20:07] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [20:07] juice (i=1000@65.28.97.1) joined ##slackware. [20:09] Reticenti: what's so great about / on an ssd ? [20:09] instant loading of the os [20:10] Reticenti: not true - they're not any faster than regular HD's [20:11] ? [20:11] yeah they are [20:11] Reticenti: no, they're not [20:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:11] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:11] Reticenti: trust me, I have a few - they're not [20:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:11] less power, less space, less noise, and also not big sizes, but compensate in price [20:11] well, my new computer boots in about 13 seconds without any kind of optimization and that's a standard driver [20:11] s/r$// [20:11] I guess the speedup is terrific compared to laptop drives though [20:11] Reticenti: the only "instant-on" you get with an SSD is that its lower power consumption makes it a little more supportive of hibernating [20:12] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-227.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [20:12] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-227.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-227.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [20:12] well then [20:12] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I suppose that laptop HD's are so slow, the SSD probably has a speed improvement over them, but not *that* much [20:13] i want a raid of ssds then [20:13] a la http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs [20:13] haha - yeah, I saw that - it *is* pretty cool [20:13] i tested ssd and get like 260mb/s [20:13] rk4n3: well, I found a pretty *huge* improvement when switching to my new desktop computer... [20:14] Camarade_Tux: ok, but how much of that was the overall hardware architecture, controllers, chipsets, etc... ? [20:14] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [20:14] SSD all the way! [20:14] reroute (n=joe@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] pfphpfptptp [20:15] rk4n3: I believe most of the speed-up (thrice faster) came from the drive [20:15] good evening slackers, always a pleasure [20:15] Camarade_Tux: I doubt it - like I said, I have a few of them in both netbooks and desktops, and there's very little difference that I can tell [20:15] lots of ram, install OS on usb thumbdrive boots & loads everything to ram, /home is on the usb thumbdrive [20:16] what i really need is a new computer [20:16] rk4n3: I'm saying notebooks drives are crap [20:16] i'm running a 3200 amd atm [20:16] Camarade_Tux: yeah, that's a good point [20:16] Reticenti: eewww ... that *is* slow [20:17] Reticenti: oh wait - I read "amd" as "rpm" initially there [20:17] ^^ [20:18] I really wonder how you managed to ;-) [20:18] lol [20:18] it's a 2.0ghz single core [20:18] 1 gb ram [20:18] Camarade_Tux: easy, the convo was about HD's, so I was thinking in that context [20:18] he, right ;) [20:19] :P [20:19] aic (n=anrxc@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe6ff900-254.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [20:19] aic (n=anrxc@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe6ff900-254.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [20:22] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:22] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:22] substancv (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [20:24] hey guys... listen im having trouble with my slackware 13... i was upgrading glib from source.... and i stupidly overheated my machine by too many processes.. anyways when i come reboot the system stops at loading sysklogd... when i boot to single user and log in... i stop rc.syslog from executing and everything seems to work [20:24] glib, glibc, glib2? [20:24] which one? [20:25] when it stops booting in multi user mode... it stops on syslog and spits out atkbd.c unknown key pressed [20:25] Camarade_Tux: glib2 [20:25] if he broke glibc. nothing would have worked [20:25] i think glib is going good [20:25] substancv, have you tried reinstalling glib2? [20:25] nachox: well, I asked that before having read everything ;p [20:26] yes... from package [20:26] slackware's glib2 i mean [20:26] substancv: your machine overheated while compiling or while running upgradepkg? [20:26] nachox: while compiling watching a video and .. heheh... converting a avi to dvd [20:27] :( [20:27] shame on me [20:27] O_O [20:27] the video over did it [20:27] sounds like fs corruption to me but I may not be the best advice at 2:30am [20:28] anyways.. i feel like my keyboard isn't setup right for some reason.. when i goto single mode and startx... my mouse nor my keyboard works. [20:28] ##slackware: mode change '-o nachox' by nachox!n=nacho@190.51.51.154 [20:28] Camarade_Tux: i don't think so. i can still boot with syslogd off.. my concern is elsewhere.. [20:28] im currently re-downloading the dvd image.. just incase [20:29] what's the error with syslogd? [20:29] well, 2:30am as I said, I need to go to sleep ;-) [20:29] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [20:29] Seg Nov 30 23:18:01 BRST 2009 [20:30] Camarade_Tux: i'm waiting :P [20:30] powtrix: :) [20:30] deco: what for? :o [20:30] deco: ^^ [20:30] Camarade_Tux: :) [20:31] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] nachox: don't recall an error.. just stopps loading after tries to load the syslog... then i get a "atkbd.c: use 'setkeycode e059 ' to make it known [20:31] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:31] i gotta hurry also.. im on a server located on a dmz... of my job [20:32] hehe [20:32] uncool [20:32] dont wanna get caught on here [20:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [20:32] its cool [20:32] no biggie [20:33] when i start rc.syslog after i log in it doesn't halt [20:34] hey is there a freenode server using port 8080 ? [20:34] hmm, if you already reinstalled glib2, then i'd be looking for the problem somewhere else [20:34] Why would it halt? [20:35] XGizzmo, because typically, you want syslog to run in the background [20:35] :P [20:35] im going to reboot and post dmesg to paste bin [20:35] brb [20:36] /win3 [20:36] bah :) [20:36] fail [20:36] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-135-158.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:36] fire|bird: ='( [20:36] good night ;-) [20:37] \o/!!! [20:37] nachox: And thats what rc.syslog does, but why should it halt when you log in? [20:37] forgot to merntion [20:37] night Camarade_Tux [20:37] if i reboot with rc.syslog as +x it will halt and no key command will work only ctrl alt del. [20:37] okay sorry I misread that. [20:37] how do i get my dmseg then? [20:38] hiya fire|bird , night Camarade_Tux [20:38] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:38] heya hitest, how are you? [20:39] I am well, fire|bird, ty:) how are you? [20:39] hitest: I'm great, thanks. :) [20:39] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:41] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-135-175.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [20:43] great, i see the ##linux troll followed me here [20:44] nachox: sorry. looks like the fact that he got removed from ##linux didn't sit well with that douchebag. he's the most notorious troll in history of freenode [20:44] ok reboot says... "starting sysklogd daemons: /usr/bin/syslogd" pauses for a long time then spits atkbd.c: Uknown key pressed (translated set 2 , code 0xd9 on.... but i doubt this is the problem my logs are full of this. [20:44] something is looping in my syslog rc file [20:45] ananke, no problem, i banned him because i saw how he insulted you [20:45] substancv: is this on a laptop? [20:46] yes... i'm unable to switch console or anything.. [20:46] yes it is on a laptop [20:46] never happened to me before [20:46] making rc.syslog not executable lets this boot normally [20:46] im going to reinstall [20:46] wish i knew how to fix this [20:47] how does one uninsttall something they 'make install' [20:47] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:48] greetings and salutations [20:48] greetings and salutations [20:48] lol :P [20:48] substancv, you dony [20:48] *dont [20:48] ok. i'm stumped. [20:48] greetings andarius:) [20:48] i guess when i go home from work ill reinstall the base os [20:48] salutations deco, how goes ? [20:48] andarius: alright thanks and you ? [20:48] substancv sometimes makefiles have an "uninstall" ruleset: make uninstall [20:48] salutations hitest, how goes with you as well ? [20:48] if not you have to manually remove the installed files [20:48] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:49] you think if i reinstall the syslogd [20:49] ? [20:49] is that possible? [20:49] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:49] I am very well, thank you, andarius. how are you doing? [20:49] I am well. just back from the gym and prepping a modified chilidog :) [20:49] modified ? [20:49] does slackwar ehow a repair option on the dvd? [20:49] andarius: ahhh yummy :P [20:49] ... sounds risky [20:49] i really hate to start alll over [20:49] substancv: I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I would first check your keyboard layout and verify that you don't have any stuck keyboard keys or multimedia buttons [20:50] andarius: modified? What options did you use? --with-* ? :P [20:50] antiwire: i checked that.. [20:50] andarius: --omgz-optimized [20:50] heh [20:50] --with-hotdog --with-cheese --without-bread [20:50] andarius: sounds good. I'm having some meatloaf in a few minutes, should be pretty good [20:50] antiwire: i booted single user mode and made syslogd chmod -x and rebooted to gui and ran xev [20:50] andarius: where does the chili go if no bread ? [20:50] no keys being pressed [20:51] substancv: which laptop model is it? [20:51] rk4n3: in the bowl :) [20:51] its a crap hardware.. .but i know it is not the laptop [20:51] hp dv2620us [20:51] aha [20:52] substancv: Unfortunately, I don't have much else for you. I suggest you backup your system before you reinstall. [20:52] that way you can revert [20:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [20:53] I use rsync to backup everything except for /sys /dev /proc and /media which allows one to restore the system completely later on if needed [20:54] substancv: Not the best answer, I know, but unless someone else here or on some blog has an idea...I'm at a loss [20:55] Action: hitest wanders off to eat...bbl [20:55] I do know that on my system I have a switch that controls my wifi and bluetooth radios and sometimes it gets pushed half way which causes massive spam similar to what you describe. [20:58] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:58] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:59] OT but worth it http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/singing-floppy-drive-uses-3-5-disk-to-play-the-imperial-march [21:01] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.19.202) joined ##slackware. [21:03] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-76-235-41-33.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] x-ip_ (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:06] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:09] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] Her0 (n=jkemp@173-119-199-214.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-135-175.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:14] x-ip_ (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:14] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:18] john_dee (n=id@95-29-144-45.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: [21:18] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:21] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:21] hmm problem my card is 1gb but only is showing 256mb [21:21] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-76-235-41-33.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:22] Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] [21:26] Substanc (n=Substanc@m715e36d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0303355 [21:26] http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=01G-P3-1155-TR&family=GeForce%20200%20Series%20Family [21:26] what I got today [21:26] hey guys... On my blackberry right now left the job... Well I reinstalled syslogd from package and problem got resolved [21:27] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=tinkerto@*.dialup.ice.net expired. [21:27] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=tinkerto@*.dialup.ice.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:28] Subv (n=Substanc@m315e36d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] was strange .. I reinstalled glib2 pango cairo atk and gtk+ from slackpkg repo.. Then reinstalled syslogd.. Problem resolved [21:31] Racketeers (n=Clings@211.180.33.9) joined ##slackware. [21:31] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-227.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:31] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:31] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[21:51] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-235.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] heya,slackers..how's all? [21:51] heya MLanden, great here. How are you? [21:52] doin' good for the night thanks fire|bird [21:52] juice (i=1000@65.28.97.1) joined ##slackware. [21:53] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [21:54] fire|bird: thanks on pointing out that gtkperf app...real handy [21:55] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:55] MLanden: you're welcome, it seems really nice. I just grabbed a theme today from SBo, alphacube. just gtk, not the window borders, but it's a nice theme. [21:55] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:55] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:56] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.51.193) left irc: "leaving" [21:57] MLanden: so far it seems Mist and the Xfce themes are the quickest, compared to others I have anyway. [21:58] fire|bird: yeah,so I've noticed...but still like the extra 10 seconds with blueheart [21:58] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] hmm [21:59] So that Vista system that I recovered from disk disaster using ddrescue and Slackware came out fine and I'm installing all of the service packs now. How this thing was not pwned already...I don't know. [21:59] any ideas why my video card would only be showing 256mb ram rasther than 1gb? [21:59] fire|bird: checking alphacube now..:P [22:00] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:01] MLanden: great. Also, I think it may need clearlooks. [22:03] fire|bird: got it installed..think I had clearlooks from another app switching from xfce to lxde [22:03] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:04] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:05] fire|bird: nice simple white outline [22:05] yeah [22:07] one thing i must say on the topic of themes is the beta version of firefox and the personas that come with it [22:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:12] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@64.134.230.123) joined ##slackware. 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[22:28] heya,slackie [22:28] o/ [22:30] \o [22:30] \o/ [22:31] \m/ B-() \m/ [22:32] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:32] if anyone cares: netgear WPN311, ath5k, works oob with wpa_supplicant and WPA-PSK [22:32] nice [22:32] Pig_Pen: ^^ [22:33] groovy gravy :D [22:34] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:35] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:35] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:36] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [22:36] (o_ EN GARDE! [22:37] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [22:40] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] wow... that was easy [22:40] hba (n=hba@189.188.106.2) joined ##slackware. [22:41] back to normal already [22:41] even better i might add [22:42] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:42] night all [22:42] night hitest [22:43] night all [22:43] night fire|bird [22:43] night nachox [22:43] night nachox [22:43] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:43] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.51.154) left irc: "Leaving" [22:44] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:44] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:47] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.132.83.48) joined ##slackware. [22:47] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [22:47] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-154-219.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:49] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.132.83.48) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:53] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-59-27-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] Nick change: alisonken1hom3 -> alisonken1home [23:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:01] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:03] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-153-37.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:05] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:11] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:13] These Vista updates are insane. It takes much longer than XP did. [23:13] :o [23:14] antiwire: longer than fedora ? :P [23:14] Yeah [23:14] now that's really bad [23:14] Even F12 in a VM updated quicker [23:14] heh [23:14] F12 uses presto by default now too, thankfully. [23:15] antiwire: so I've notice..wonder if it's sheer size or bad bandwidth? [23:15] It's not the bandwidth in my case [23:15] I can pull ~600kbps from windows update [23:16] antiwire: just a lot of updates right ? [23:16] windows? [23:16] yup [23:16] deco: From no SP to fully updated, it's been hours so far [23:16] reroute: I'm working on a client's system. [23:16] antiwire: wow that's horrible [23:17] A highly neglected system [23:18] sleepytime [23:18] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:18] antiwire: i thought my pc hung at least 3 times before windows 7 was expanding [23:18] yeah man, at work we have a joke "Don't be a button pusher!" [23:19] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [23:21] antiwire: hi,is that laptop issue solved ? just curious how you solved it [23:21] what issue? [23:21] antiwire: the nipple pointer on you lap , [23:22] There is driver support. [23:22] your [23:22] is no [23:22] ah! [23:22] There is no support for pointer nipple tap clicking with the ALPS mode of the synaptics driver... [23:23] but again...the touchpad works fine. nothing is broken. [23:23] the pointer nipple also tracks fine. [23:24] hm.. ok just wanted to know the solution,seems like no driver :) [23:24] speaking of nipples i have to glue the laptop's cap locks nipple back on before i give the machine to my ex-gf [23:25] reroute: cosmetic or spring? [23:26] spring [23:26] that's just a guess btw, i have no idea [23:27] sure you''ve got a 50/50 why risk channel ridicule from a simple "not sure" [23:27] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:27] If it's a laptop it is most likely a membrane keyboard and the nipple is not cosmetic [23:28] ridicule ain't something i worry about otherwise i wouldn't rejoin, you peeps seem like friends [23:28] just wait until you catch us on a down swing [23:28] ridicule away [23:28] nipples are cool [23:29] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:30] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [23:32] Her0 (n=jkemp@173-119-199-214.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:32] nipples are cool, certainly turn girls on even if said nipples arn't that attractive [23:32] I have nipples Greg, Can you milk me? [23:33] that's what she said [23:35] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:35] big titted nipples = dinner plates [23:35] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:36] cyb3r3li0g (n=elio@c-67-164-158-190.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:36] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:37] brbrbr (n=br@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [23:40] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-99-59-27-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-99-59-27-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:43] Weird0ne (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] reroute: not always [23:44] aerola size is independant of breast size [23:45] what's wrong with large areolas anyway? [23:45] nothing. [23:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:45] I, for one, am quite happy to see any areolas. [23:46] maybe not twolf's but you know what I mean [23:46] the areola is generally tougher and less sensitive than the rest of the breast. [23:46] tougher = more fun [23:46] pegs etc [23:47] o.O [23:48] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:49] pegs are too much work, it's more fun to bite them [23:49] Action: Racketeers wonders if some people ought to be in ##slackofftopic [23:50] oh no, the gestapo is in town.... [23:50] I mean yeah...we were clearly interrupting an on topic conversation... [23:51] with as much of an asshole as you are i'm surprised you're not gay, yet you're talking about boobs. STOP CONFUSING ME! 8-) [23:52] most of the conversations I have in a days time deal with boobies [23:52] Racketeers: Do you think emoticons negate calling someone names? [23:52] not particularly, why? [23:53] Ah [23:53] Astro-turfing [23:57] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host189.200-82-105.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:58] final thought by reroute: Boobies are awsome, even when they're saggy when you squeeze them together [23:58] but can they compare to touchiing someone's kernel ? [23:59] or probing ports? [23:59] boobies are always awesome. they just vary in awesomeness based on several factors ;) [00:00] --- Tue Dec 1 2009