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[00:31] who here owns a cat? [00:32] Not I [00:32] Action: Motoko-chan has two dogs [00:32] there is a cat in my house, I don't claim it though, I'd rather feed it to some larger mammal [00:32] agentc0re: maybe i_is_cat, if he was here. [00:32] someone said cat ? [00:32] twolf: make it pretty before you do, http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/66E6A0E8-5B3D-4316-A7B8-2C31B7D52EEB/ [00:33] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-184.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [00:33] deco: no, go back to your corner. :P [00:34] Action: deco hides in the darkness again ... [00:34] Action: CcSsNET lights match [00:34] \o/ [00:34] *KABOOM* [00:34] Action: CcSsNET flies out of the cave on fire [00:34] mail_ (n=chatzill@74.002.hdsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]" [00:34] Action: deco is not hiding in a cave [00:34] O.o [00:35] CcSsNET: DUDE, you aren't suppose to light it up while you're still there. :P [00:35] u destroyed the story [00:35] lol [00:35] anyone ever toyed with some automounting code [00:35] such as submount [00:36] or vold [00:36] lol lol [00:36] both are pure c [00:36] deco: stuck on repeat again? [00:36] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:36] fire|bird: .... ..... [00:36] wow, you found some dashes, good work. :) [00:37] jrt05 (n=jason@pool-71-186-3-208.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] anybody know what happened to slackwiki.org ? [00:37] oh crap , grrrr i'm not wearing my glasses ok! [00:37] you triggered my irssi morse code script deco. :P [00:37] fire|bird: lol [00:37] maybe its just charter being stupid, but I get some stupid ad camp crap [00:37] google cache shows the right page [00:37] jafnhar: It got knocked off the interwebs, apparently the domain wasn't renewed or something, who knows. [00:37] ouch [00:38] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F4572.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:38] fire|bird: didn't pay .... [00:38] hard times! [00:38] deco: you know what that's like. :P [00:38] fire|bird: yes :( [00:38] Mr. I HAZ NO MONEY FOR DE ELECTRICITY BILL. [00:38] fire|bird: shhhhhh [00:39] fire|bird: that's not for here ... [00:39] Oh, wait, who turned out the lights..... [00:39] no better question is [00:39] who let the dogs out!!! [00:39] I did, hoping they'd seek you out and take you down. :P [00:40] they failed, i just offerend them a piece of fire|bird [00:40] and they stopped [00:40] I knew I should have never dropped that feather. :( [00:40] lol [00:40] oh i have better uses for that ;-) [00:41] Expiration Date:27-Oct-2010 04:41:31 UTC [00:41] I pinged erik [00:41] Exhibit "A" for the disconnection of deco: http://omploader.org/vMm5rOA <----UBUNTU [00:41] ola rworkman :) [00:41] He just updated it today and I guess the registrar is slow [00:41] ah, so will be back up soon-ish. [00:42] fire|bird: hey hey [00:42] fire|bird: that's so fake .... [00:42] fire|bird: adding my name and all ... [00:43] pffft [00:43] rworkman: If you have a moment, any idea what would cause this? Seamonkey 2.0 build, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/7zMb5D13.html [00:43] deco: Is that really the default wallpaper for that? [00:43] fire|bird: nah , found it on deviant art, the defualt one is just golden brown lol [00:44] deco: Ok, because that actually looks like something they'd use. :P [00:44] jrt05 (n=jason@pool-71-186-3-208.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:44] fire|bird: yeah they should hire that guy :P [00:44] hey, the defaults no longer resemble baby shit! [00:44] It blends in perfectly with their brown color scheme. [00:44] haha [00:44] yup lol [00:44] wood ... [00:44] brown ... [00:45] I have my Ubuntu VM using the Ubuntu Studio theme, black and blue. [00:45] fire|bird: oh, yeah it's nice, [00:45] At least they realise that the KDE defaults don't need much changing. [00:46] fire|bird: what directory is that error occurring in? [00:46] veritos: I had read an article recently of how having the various *buntu derivatives is so pointless, why not just have one installer, use the Ubuntu name, and give a choice at install what de you want. [00:47] rworkman: Umm, let me check, I can't recall. [00:47] Also, for 2.0, libpng needs a patch for apng, fwiw. [00:47] fire|bird: that would make you download a dvd ... [00:47] or have multiple isos [00:47] Nothing after line 2 of the pastebin is useful; it's all because the missing header defines the functions that are mising [00:49] Ubuntu is funny; their kdelibs 3.5.10 package is called kdelibs4 and their kdelibs 4.3.2 is called kdelibs5 [00:49] That's not funny. It's insane. [00:49] Action: Motoko-chan just uses Mandriva [00:49] Wonderful KDE distro [00:49] rworkman: I still have it open in a terminal, the last "cd" command for it was cd mangle, and then this error comes when it was packaging chatzilla. [00:49] lol. [00:50] fire|bird: from the line you started the pastebin at, scroll up until you see something like "In directory blah" [00:50] rworkman, looks like debian does the same, most likely for backwards compatibility. [00:50] very 'backwards' indeed. [00:51] Insane, I tell you. [00:51] rworkman: ok, I'm looking, I just came across this line: ../../../../mozilla/dist/include/system_wrappers/ldappr.h:3:25: error: ldappr.h: No such file or directory [00:51] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [00:52] The pissoff part of it is that their users don't know any better, so they get to look like ignorant asshats when they ask about kde 5 [00:52] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] fire|bird: do a "find /whereverthseamonkeysourcetopleveldiris -name "ldappr.h" -print [00:52] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.45.227) joined ##slackware. [00:52] otho_ (n=otho@98.222.27.81) joined ##slackware. [00:53] otho (n=otho@unaffiliated/otho) left irc: Success [00:53] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.100) joined ##slackware. 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[00:55] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:55] rworkman: ./directory/c-sdk/ldap/include/ldappr.h ./mozilla/js/src/config/system_wrappers_js/ldappr.h [00:55] and ./mozilla/config/system_wrappers/ldappr.h [00:56] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [00:57] fire|bird: okay, interesting. I don't have the source handy to check, and it's too big to download quickly enough to look, but: [00:57] fire|bird: try going into nsLDAPProtocolModule.cpp and editing that include of ldappr.h to... well, show me what the include line looks like [01:00] the line for ldappr.h right now is: #include "ldappr.h" [01:02] Okay, then that means a "-I$TMP/seamonkey-$VERSION/mozilla/config/system_wrappers" as part of CFLAGS might fix it. [01:03] try doing this in the toplevel seamonkey dir: make CFLAGS+="-I$(pwd)/mozilla/config/system_wrappers" [01:04] Hmm, did I do something wrong? make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. [01:05] Are you in the toplevel seamonkey source dir? [01:05] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.155.249) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:05] yeah [01:05] agris2 (n=agris@213.226.141.100) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:05] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:06] Hrm, not sure then without looking. Poke me tomorrow and I'll pull the source [01:07] ok, will do. I'll keep digging at it a bit here and see if I get anywhere. Thanks. :) [01:08] doh!, I think I found why it won't work. [01:08] Offplanet (n=pete@69.106.185.238) joined ##slackware. [01:09] Hmm, guess not. The first try, I had the wrong terminal, but I used the right one this time and still the same. [01:09] Yeah, I'll poke at it tomorrow [01:12] argh, I got that make CFLAGS command to work now, I'll say pebkac, and leave it at that. ;) [01:15] hm [01:15] why did i think today was tuesday [01:17] Axius (n=hoh@92.82.77.227) joined ##slackware. [01:18] jeev: i didn't even know the year today ... [01:18] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-184.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:22] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:25] lol deco [01:25] that' [01:25] that's a serious issue [01:26] heh [01:27] i want a baby lion [01:28] ^^ [01:29] i want a baby otter [01:30] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] i want a baby narwhal [01:30] my friends nickname is otter, but hes not a baby [01:30] i want a baby skewfox ^^ [01:30] lol [01:31] i dont want a lemur [01:34] dogs are good [01:35] Biogenetics" - Best quality, longest lifetime. [01:35] \o/ [01:36] i want a baby winter \o/ [01:36] no way \o/ [01:37] yes way \o/ [01:37] no² way \o/ [01:37] ha! [01:37] be careful what you wish for [01:37] winter: damn it you win [01:37] deco: ask someone else \o/ [01:38] winter: k \o/ [01:38] hey twolf, how's it going? [01:38] i want a baby jeev \o/ [01:38] deco: No, you don't. :P [01:38] hey fire|bird, it is going well here, how about you? [01:38] fire|bird: oh yes i do! [01:38] twolf: great, thanks. [01:38] deco: I shall reiterate twolf's comment, be careful what you wish for. [01:39] fire|bird: i shall tame him ... [01:39] \o/ [01:39] some things cannot be tamed. [01:39] fire|bird: like love ? [01:39] no, like jeev [01:40] horse tranquilizers could help [01:40] twolf: but only for so long. [01:40] lol [01:40] fire|bird: ill just install ubuntu on of his servers :p [01:41] haha [01:41] that network would then surely crash. :P [01:41] indeed :P [01:42] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) joined ##slackware. [01:43] if anyone installs ubunti on one of my servers, i'll happen to go in for murder the next day [01:43] lol [01:43] jeev: your servers only run slackware ? [01:44] all of them ? [01:44] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-171.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [01:44] no [01:44] freebsd [01:44] just a handful run slack [01:44] delt0r (n=delt0r@80-123-57-111.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:45] unbuntu on server = fail [01:45] ubunti on anything = death [01:45] hehe [01:46] jeev uses windows vista ... [01:46] its not to bad for the noobs to get aquanted with the idea of the shell and stuff from [01:46] Slack won't fly at my site :( We use Kerberos for login [01:46] (Yes, I know that I can put PAM on it, but that defeats the point.) [01:46] heh [01:46] i use neither [01:47] CcSsNET: what do you use ? [01:47] hey, there is an ubuntu 7.10 cd on my desk [01:47] .. [01:47] lol [01:47] i use windows for games [01:47] jeev: and for desktop ? [01:47] just shadow [01:47] yea, i use it for one. [01:48] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:48] directx [01:48] opengl [01:48] mesa [01:48] pfff [01:49] directx rapes ass [01:49] maybe urs [01:49] ;) [01:49] yes, urs [01:50] leave winter alone! [01:50] shhh [01:50] it's too entertaining [01:50] must be bots [01:51] bots are assless, your a hipocryte. [01:51] heh [01:52] bbl [01:52] definatly bots [01:53] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[03:35] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:41] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:42] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [03:43] juice (i=1000@65.28.97.1) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:43] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-114.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] freenode servers are on fire :) [03:49] giuppy (n=giuppy@87.7.168.219) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:50] How to change a user name? [03:51] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [03:52] Axius, vipw [03:53] but you'll have to change some other stuff too, like your mail dir name [03:55] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. 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[04:11] lol [04:11] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:12] then why you complaining about c++? [04:12] hehe [04:12] Action: byteframe hopes his noob ass can get valgrind to drop some knowledge on me. [04:12] c is easier though [04:12] boon, flawfinder? [04:12] I would seem if you have to use a C library, then yes. [04:12] Axius (n=jgg@92.82.77.227) joined ##slackware. [04:12] yay kvm for 13.0 is finally in the sbo approved list [04:13] why are u associateing c wit libraries? [04:13] C++ with one. [04:14] CcSsNET: this is not a text message. [04:14] i dont own a phone [04:14] nor ever will [04:14] ie, converting string's all the time. [04:14] CcSsNET: so type properly [04:14] nah [04:14] define properly [04:14] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:15] does anyone knows how can I receive the microphone and or webcam fedd through SSH? [04:15] you, with, too. [04:15] Azeotrope: microphone yes, webcam slightly harder. [04:16] spook: webcam is not a must yes. can you teach me? [04:17] Azeotrope: depends on a bunch of things. [04:17] jkr (n=jkr@194.19.111.162) joined ##slackware. [04:17] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-114.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:17] spook: like? [04:19] Azeotrope: how you are going to use the microphone [04:19] just a baby monitor [04:20] cat /dev/microphone | nc nc | /dev/speaker might work [04:24] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: "Leaving." [04:26] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [04:27] nc ftw :) [04:27] nc+nmap == break any lock :) [04:29] _marc` (n=marc@i59F7D47E.versanet.de) joined ##slackware. [04:29] daleciou1 (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:29] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [04:30] Zordrak: it calls itself the network swiss army knife [04:30] jkr (n=jkr@194.19.111.162) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:31] youre telling _me_ what it calls itself? :) [04:32] Zordrak: i'm agreeing with you that its awesome [04:32] :) [04:38] Axius (n=jgg@92.82.77.227) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:39] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) joined ##slackware. [04:42] Any thoughts on the impact of non-latin DNS? [04:44] my friend is actually doing research on that, and publishing a paper [04:44] opera is completely vulnerable to it. [04:44] i was thinking more functionality than security [04:44] rdns lookups by mail servers etc [04:45] quite unnessisary imo [04:45] my mailserver rejects mail from any ip that doesnt resolve [04:45] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[05:16] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-184.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [05:21] Guest47408 (n=x3@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [05:22] Guest47408 (n=x3@189.57.19.89) left ##slackware. [05:23] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [05:23] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-167-89.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:26] morning. [05:30] Zordrak: why do you say that of glassfish? [05:30] Because its an overengineered to a problem that never existed using a language that should never have existed [05:31] hahaha, I see ;p [05:32] Action: Zordrak is cleaning up his /home [05:32] bigger wess than the office was [05:33] *mess [05:33] do you folks dl full kerns for each release you want to have or a patch-set? [05:33] full [05:33] full [05:33] rm -rf `find /home -name "*trash*"` [05:33] git ^^ [05:33] always full [05:33] i've always as well, but i think i might switch to patches from now one, less space, less bandwidth [05:34] OTTOYH.. whats the quickest way to l/ist the contents af a tarball~? [05:34] (g)vim? :D [05:35] well shiat.. i forgot aboot that [05:35] tar tf file.tar (add z,j,or J appropriately) [05:35] ty [05:35] vim ftw [05:35] I like vim for that because you can look inside the files after that :) [05:36] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:36] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:37] another reason why elvis should leave the building [05:37] but vim has more dependencies [05:37] I'm happy with elvis as vi, vim ran as "vi" will be the same anyway [05:38] elvis is necessary for minimal slack installs [05:38] thats why its the defaulth [05:38] New machines: cd /usr/bin;rm vi;ln -s vim vi [05:40] yep i always do that, i just do ln -s /usr/bin/vim /usr/bin/vi though [05:40] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) left irc: "Leaving" [05:41] sorry, ln -sf (i meant) [05:41] meh [05:41] uva (i=bno@118-160-167-89.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:42] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:43] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [05:43] or don't install elvis, the vim doint.sh will create that symlink [05:43] i don't mind having a /usr/bin/elvis...i just don't want it impersonating vi [05:47] fjji (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [05:48] fjji (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:52] fjji (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [05:54] fjji (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:56] daleciou1 (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [05:56] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:58] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:59] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:05] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:11] I need to test a very very simple C program on a non-linux, non-x86_64 computer, any idea? [06:11] daleciou1 (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:11] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [06:11] I'd like to test on bsd, sparc, bid-endian archs... [06:11] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [06:16] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [06:22] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:23] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) left irc: "Leaving" [06:23] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) left irc: "leaving" [06:26] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-65-63.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:26] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:27] Camarade_Tux: windows? [06:28] Camarade_Tux: or use qemu :P [06:28] spook: windows should be ok to test, but others... [06:28] and I don't feel like doing half a dozen OS installs :D [06:28] pfsense live CD in a virtual machine? thats bsd i thinx [06:29] Camarade_Tux: use qemu to emulate those systems [06:29] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-34-227.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:30] Camarade_Tux: i think... that you can emulate for just a binary [06:30] yup, qemu-sparc will execute a binary [06:30] well, the code to test is like 40 lines of pretty dumb code, it's going to take hours to test even a few [06:31] spook: but I need to cross-compile my binary first ;-) [06:31] Camarade_Tux: fairly straight forward isnt it? [06:31] spook: need to set up a cross-compiler first ;-) [06:31] Camarade_Tux: yeah so? [06:32] needs at least one hour of compilation [06:32] well there are no shortcuts i can see [06:34] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [06:34] I'm gonna try annoy people on ir :D [06:34] *irc [06:35] Camarade_Tux: yeah other than getting other people to do it [06:35] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:35] ;-) [06:35] hmmm, great. verizon started to block outgoing smtp traffic [06:35] hahaha :P [06:36] \o/ [06:36] check your contract [06:36] Camarade_Tux: there is no contract [06:36] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [06:36] ananke: there's a provider in france that has opt-in/opt-out for that [06:36] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:36] my ISP blocks it if you have dynamic IP.. but offers static IPs (which i have) [06:37] i'm anticipating our helpdesk is going to see an influx of problem tickets related to this. already saw a couple [06:37] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) joined ##slackware. [06:37] my isp does static ips for all naked dsl plans [06:37] hmmm, naked :) [06:37] err, what was it about :D [06:38] naked dsl = dsl without having a landline, i.e; dont have to pay line rental. [06:38] packeteer (n=zed@203.39.247.242) joined ##slackware. [06:38] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-61-68-213-30.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:39] :P [06:39] wish we could have that [06:39] not possible to have ADSL without line rental in this country [06:39] I'll subscribe to something like that, unfortunately I'll have to open a line and close it >< [06:39] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [06:44] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.189) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:44] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:45] crre (n=packetee@203.39.247.242) joined ##slackware. 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[07:20] I feel like i ought to be doing something with my blog nwo that its getting decent daily traffic [07:21] i may be short of cash but advertising is not on the list -- not unless it exploded to thousands of visits a day [07:22] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [07:22] but its one of those feelings with nothing behind it... no idea what i think i ought to be doing with it.. just feel i should do.. *something* [07:23] Zordrak: you could always beg for cash [07:23] nyRednek: at this point i have no interest on combinig my blog with money [07:23] Zordrak: ok... [07:24] Zordrak: it makes me want to start a blog. [07:24] spook: only start one if you have something meaningful to say :) [07:25] i'm sure there are quite a lot of useful thing i can blog about [07:25] fwiw i started one because i had lots of content and nowhere to put it [07:25] it was addressing a personal need [07:27] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:28] for me, its i find out how to do something, then 6 months later i actually need to do it either again or for a useful purpose and cant remember [07:28] yup.. thats about right for my initial reasoning [07:29] up to then i had it on a TWiki instance [07:29] and i hated it [07:29] and it wasnt publicly available [07:29] i thought about setting up a wiki. [07:29] im not a big fan of wikis in general [07:30] i compare them to communism. A good idea in theory that doesnt work very well in practice [07:30] with a few notable exceptions [07:30] i've got a new firewall/router box that i'm setting up, to replace my old one. the old one is really messily setup, still has 12.1, and has lots of hideous abortions (experiments) on it [07:30] well i was thinking more a wiki, to which only i can edit [07:30] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [07:31] spook: yep.. i went there too.. bottom line is.. dont pick a platform.. pick a CMS [07:31] then find out what uses it [07:31] because you will spend 99% of your time swearing at your CMS [07:31] i've written a few cms [07:31] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:31] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Operation timed out [07:31] but thanks to the foolishness of youth i didnt really keep a coherent copy of the code and have long since lost it [07:31] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] im still swearing at TinyMCE.. but its better than many alternatives [07:32] along with a lot of other projects [07:32] fosforo_1 (n=fosforo@187.15.22.165) joined ##slackware. [07:33] now i have a git tree for all my random junk, to keep revision control and avoid losing it. [07:33] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.45.227) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430521.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:34] heh [07:34] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.98.224) left irc: "Leaving." [07:34] Action: Zordrak clones [07:34] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [07:34] ssh only :P [07:34] Action: Zordrak breaks in with nmap+nc :) [07:35] Zordrak: honestly, not bragging, i dare you to break into my router. spooksoftware.com [07:36] spook: while i would love to spend the next week working on it.... there are one or two things on my list that are more important :) [07:36] Action: Zordrak runs a cursory syn scan for the hall of it [07:36] *hell [07:36] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:37] -A INPUT -m tcp -p tcp --tcp-flags ! SYN,RST,ACK,FIN SYN -j DROP [07:37] EWWWW [07:37] ew ew ew ew ew [07:38] oh, its commented out. [07:38] 4.3p2 on debian etch! [07:38] inaccurate os profiling is highly inaccurate. [07:39] er.. thats not profiling.. thats what the box itself is telling me [07:39] really? [07:39] rullyrully [07:39] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-184.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:39] SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9etch3 [07:39] oh right, thats the vm running on it. [07:40] lol [07:40] i'd forgotten about that. [07:40] way to provide a back door :) [07:40] \o/ [07:40] Zordrak: its locked down six ways from sunday. [07:40] Zordrak: DMZ'd [07:40] yeah.. but how many holes exist for 4.3p2 [07:41] a way in is a way in [07:41] David88 (n=david@net-188-216-130-98.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [07:41] shrug? i left the management of it up to the person who uses it, an online friend. [07:41] hello [07:41] i trust him enough. [07:41] i have little problem :/ [07:41] how much do you trust the VM.. [07:41] i set password of screen with C-a , :password [07:42] and i can't paste password with :paste [07:42] :/ [07:42] Zordrak: not as far as i can throw i [07:42] encryped password.. [07:42] t [07:42] spook: just sayin.. if i *were* to be throwing my balls at your box.. thats definitel where i'd start [07:43] Zordrak: thanks for the heads up though, i had COMPLETELY forgotten about it [07:44] :) [07:45] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.189) joined ##slackware. [07:45] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.33.12) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:45] Nick change: hexorcist -> quasar [07:46] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:46] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:46] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:49] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: [07:49] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [07:50] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:52] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:53] woo.. /home is now clean :) [07:53] 9 top-level non-dot entries [07:53] jfo` (n=user@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [07:54] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [07:54] jfo` (n=user@92.84.8.9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:55] yay [07:55] i'm thinking about setting up a /home to nfs share between my bolted down machines, what do you think? [07:55] ever run a DE? [07:56] as in, X? [07:56] well.. was more thinking a DE than a WM [07:56] __marc` (n=marc@i59F7E187.versanet.de) joined ##slackware. [07:57] askhader (n=sayed@rn--ctm-1-1-a05.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:57] _marc` (n=marc@i59F7D47E.versanet.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:58] Nick change: __marc` -> _marc` [07:58] David88 (n=david@net-188-216-130-98.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) left irc: "stress" [07:58] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] you raise a good counter-argument [07:59] thats why i dont use the NIS/NFS /home in this environment... i dont want my DE being murdered [07:59] however [07:59] thats no reason not to have same shared storade.. just not /home [08:00] /pub [08:00] might be good idea [08:00] meh.. /mnt/store [08:00] Zordrak: i already have my massive array shared using samba. [08:01] then youre done.. get out of the oven befare you burn [08:01] fosforo_1 (n=fosforo@187.15.22.165) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] btw.. how do you handle automounting samba wrt passwords.. [08:02] or do you just not auto-mount [08:02] i just dont. [08:02] *nod* [08:02] strankan (n=strankan@h43n4fls304o885.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:02] automount xD [08:02] its my one sticking point for turning off NFS [08:02] its only for my windows machine so i can slowly move all my media off it into neatly organised directories on the array [08:02] askhader (n=sayed@rn--ctm-1-1-a05.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:02] try nmap -p1-65535 127.0.0.1 [08:03] if it returns results ur doing paranoia wrong [08:03] xD [08:03] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.30.71) joined ##slackware. [08:03] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [08:04] spook: pw?+ [08:04] er [08:04] pm.. [08:04] Zordrak: sure :) [08:05] g'morning guys (and any mythical gals present) [08:05] haldir: they exist. [08:05] hmm nice phrazing [08:07] i will believe in female slackers when i see their nekked pics with a Slack bootscreen prominently displayed :-) [08:08] haldir: hehehehe, ask kethry to do that and see what happens [08:08] TITS or GTFO :D [08:08] Nick change: Zordrak -> Intel[R]VT-x [08:09] INTELLIGENCE OR STFU [08:09] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x -> Intel[R]VT-x_ [08:09] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x_ -> Zordrak [08:14] zordrak that sites covered in child porn what country u in? O:-) [08:14] heh [08:15] .. what site? [08:15] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [08:15] the phrase u mentioned [08:16] before the female spoke up ^ [08:16] O_o .. its a pretty standard meme [08:16] asumitivly [08:16] what female? [08:16] well they might not be [08:16] but im assuming straterra is [08:16] orite.. sorry.. i have straterra on ignore [08:16] yeah she is. [08:17] o [08:17] dont like ignores cause it can be confusing.. but there was no other way with straterra [08:17] yea i have never used ignore [08:17] same reason ^ [08:18] I have a slack install I probably did something wrong: I don't have rc.keymap, any idea why? [08:18] i have never ignored one, you guys must have gotten into a real disagreement [08:18] Camarade_Tux: IIRC you only get rc.keymap if you change it during boot [08:18] s/boot/install/ [08:18] might be wrong.. but obv its unnecessary unless you are changing it [08:19] Zordrak: must be why, gonna scp it from here :) [08:19] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Camarade_Tux: as well to just type it out.. its 4 lines :) [08:20] 5 with comment [08:20] Zordrak: nah, too easy :) [08:21] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [08:21] slackweird (n=acolyte@unaffiliated/slackwared) joined ##slackware. [08:21] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [08:21] Debian-user (n=Debian-u@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Camarade_Tux: in fact.. itd b easier to just add `loadkeys foo` to rc.local :) [08:22] but I do my installs with qwerty, I can type in both without problem, shouldn't impact after install =/ [08:22] haldir: Didn't get in any disagreement. Zordrak got mad because I would correct him when he was wrong [08:22] Zordrak: again, too easy :P [08:22] haldir: and instead of changing his tampon, he whined and put me on ignore. [08:22] straterra, yea i can see that ;) [08:23] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [08:23] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:23] haldir: even nekkid pics with a slack bootscreen prominently displayed proves nothing more or less than that someone has talked a girl into posing naked in front of a computer. but.. if it makes you feel happy, feel free to ask BP{k} for such proof... [08:23] o.O [08:23] Action: straterra chuckles [08:23] kethry: i thought you might like that :) [08:23] I dont think THAT'LL happen [08:24] Action: kethry winks at spook and straterra [08:24] Action: CcSsNET single, near boston hehehe [08:24] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:25] BP{k}: I was told you have nakid pics of somebody here, care sharing? :) [08:25] Camarade_Tux: careful what you wish for [08:25] o wow [08:25] hahaha [08:25] Camarade_Tux: he's asleep. but i'm sure he'll see this when he wakes up. [08:25] Camarade_Tux: careful.. you dont want the ones of BP{k} in a gimp mask [08:25] straterra: hahaha :P [08:25] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:26] Zordrak: you obviously don't know BP{k} [08:26] the goggles, they do nothing :) [08:26] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [08:26] kethry, i still think they are unicorn like [08:26] greetings awsome people ;) [08:26] hows it going today... [08:26] Zordrak: if only you knew... :P [08:26] hiya straterra, Camarade_Tux, BP{k}, spook, ...etc [08:26] hey The-Croupier :) [08:27] lol [08:27] hello The-Croupier [08:27] hi someone i dont know [08:27] Ello [08:27] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-odfiqlkoffocwlil) joined ##slackware. [08:27] Hi etc [08:27] haldir: thats okay... no way to prove to you otherwise.. *shrugs* [08:27] whats up with people not knowing people today ;) how nice..;) [08:28] the first thing i read coming in was straterra's statement on Zordrak not knowing BP{k}... [08:28] and for the record... Zordrak shame on you :p ;) [08:28] dunno but someone said nekkid pics and my laptop almost jumped off the table [08:28] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8EB2E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] kethry, i am just joking of course. i am sure there are some with this large of a group [08:28] haldir: yep. at least one. :) [08:29] Hi, anyone here is using the new k3b? since i upgrade i'm not able to record any dvd, it gives me the following error "cdrecord has no permission to open the device" I google that error but only found solutions for ubuntu something about wodim any ideas? [08:29] run as root [08:29] errrr.... [08:29] change group might work..not sure ;) [08:29] set permissions in k3b [08:29] if problem is fixed check permisions [08:29] what dive said ;) [08:30] mind you last time I tried to use it to burn an image it kept failing. Went back to xfburn. [08:30] any known issues lately? anything nice..? worth mentioning? [08:30] slackweird (n=acolyte@unaffiliated/slackwared) left irc: "init 0" [08:30] try cdw or burncenter [08:30] dive: i love xfburn, ;) ;) [08:31] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:31] The-Croupier, it works well, which is good enough for me. [08:31] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:31] dive, exactly my point..;) and really easy to do stuff quickly [08:32] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [08:34] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:35] Nick change: g4tt0 -> g4tt1ntosh [08:36] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-184.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [08:39] whois alienBOB [08:39] some geezer [08:39] fail :) [08:39] lol [08:39] Ok thanks, run as root doesn't work, i'm going to try xfburn, :-) [08:40] madnex: if run as root doesnt work..that means..the pkg is not working [08:40] ;) sorry about that... trying to see what commands do work in this piece of crap :( [08:41] ? [08:41] The reason i run my own DNS: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/30/ebay_opendns_block/ [08:41] well ignore is not working ...so i tried whois :( [08:42] hello ctcp version isn't working anymore [08:42] on k3b, don [08:42] dive, what do yo mean? [08:42] yo/you [08:42] sorry.. on k3b don't you have to add yourself to some /etc/group [08:43] 12:42:52 [FreeNode] [ctcp(dive)] VERSION [08:43] 12:42:53 [FreeNode] CTCP VERSION reply from dive: irssi v0.8.14 - running on Linux i686 [08:43] haldir: check permissions ;) [08:43] The-Croupier, /ctcp The-Croupier version isn't working for me [08:43] The-Croupier, not for me. someone else having probs [08:43] works for me: Purple IRC [08:43] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [08:43] dive: and just got the version from you [08:44] dive i see your ctcp ;) shall i reply to that? [08:44] strange [08:44] dive: what do you need? [08:44] nothing [08:44] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [08:44] just wondering why the command isn't working for me [08:44] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:45] window level looks ok [08:45] Hmm [08:45] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] anyway food is up [08:46] it is working.. youre just not getting/seeing the response [08:46] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.91) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:46] Zordrak, yeah that's what I thought but I set /window level all and it still doesn't show [08:46] nvm [08:48] anyone else trying that...on me? :( [08:48] Action: The-Croupier feels betrayed and under attack from so called "friends" [08:49] :-) [08:49] whois friends [08:50] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [08:51] the only thing on my /list friends i get so far is phrags ;) [08:51] Action: theblackbox wonders what that one has been up to [08:52] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [08:52] HA [08:52] hey guys o/ [08:52] o0 [08:52] how do phrag [08:52] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] y0rn and a stretch =) [08:52] phrag: wtf ? lol [08:52] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] The-Croupier: hey dude! [08:52] that was a bit wierd [08:52] wtf kind of coincedence was that! [08:52] how? lol [08:52] i've not been here for months! [08:53] speak of the devil... [08:53] jemmy (n=chatzill@114.58.72.50) joined ##slackware. [08:53] phrag: i just mentioned your name..;) lol [08:53] what i miss =P [08:53] ah, i must of felt it in the ether =P [08:53] phrag: just thought of /pm you in msn...and you join? [08:53] lol, the force is strong with this one [08:53] missed this place, all you guys =) [08:54] phrag: ;) know the feeling ;) [08:54] almost makes one wonder if he watching [08:54] someone misses me \o/ [08:54] phrag: is it really you lets check ;) [08:54] our home address in birmigham ? [08:55] birmingham [08:55] jemmy (n=chatzill@114.58.72.50) left ##slackware. [08:55] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) left irc: "Leaving" [08:55] phrag, how's life and that? you get much time to slack these days? ;) [08:56] Action: theblackbox wonders what is going on with paypal sign up form =/ [08:57] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:01] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:02] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [09:04] if i want to access my ssh server that's behind a NAT i should use reverse ssh? [09:05] ssh -NR 3333:localhost:22 me@myhost [09:05] or just port-forward? [09:05] i can't since i don't own the router [09:05] Azeotrope: yes, unless you can portforward reverse ssh is the only way i can think of. [09:05] no access to it [09:06] what should i do to the server side to run this command at startup? [09:06] Action: The-Croupier smells something illegal coming up ..... smoke is in the air....lala la la [09:06] illegal? [09:06] no [09:06] Azeotrope: autossh is an awesome program [09:07] Azeotrope: its on slackbuilds.org [09:07] spider1010 (n=spider10@66.37.250.51) joined ##slackware. [09:07] allend (n=allend@CPE-58-165-44-61.lns1.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:08] how can I check a touchpad supports multi-touch? [09:08] Camarade_Tux: use both fingers? [09:08] :P [09:08] hal? [09:08] s/both/two [09:08] agentc0re: the touchpad is five kilometers away :D [09:09] agentc0re some things dont like both/two fingers :p [09:09] Action: Camarade_Tux is a member of the Fantastic Four [09:09] spook, any other simpler way to execute that command at startup? [09:09] mine does 3 fingers, the other one should do too but I have troubles with it [09:09] Camarade_Tux: haha [09:10] mine is not supporting any fingers at all...its playing hard to get these days... after the update :( [09:10] Camarade_Tux: 3 fingers... even when i just barely wake up my mind can still be found in the gutter. [09:10] stinky pinky ftw! :P [09:10] Azeotrope: well you'd run autossh at start up [09:10] Azeotrope: and autossh will make sure the tunnel stays up [09:10] agentc0re: I do it with the whole hand :) [09:10] The-Croupier: which update? [09:11] Camarade_Tux: i did an slackpkg upgrade-all in -current the other day :( [09:11] maybe i did something i shouldnt, the truth is i didnt really check all the pkgs ;) [09:11] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-odfiqlkoffocwlil) left irc: [09:11] The-Croupier: 13 was working? [09:12] Camarade_Tux: did a -current install when i came up ;) [09:12] The-Croupier: so, what was working right before? [09:12] since then been doing slackpkg update or upgrade -all install new all the time ;) [09:13] Camarade_Tux: yeah it was working right before the last update [09:13] The-Croupier: I mean, where you on 12.2 or 13 before? :D [09:13] 13 / current [09:13] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [09:14] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-lcgtwlcxveateehq) joined ##slackware. [09:14] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.161.74) joined ##slackware. [09:14] hi there! [09:14] 13 was current at some point...i dont know if it changed now..havent checked in some time ;) [09:14] no, not him! [09:14] metrofox: hiya there [09:15] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.8.9) left irc: "Leaving" [09:15] hey Camarade_Tux & The-Croupier, what's up? :) [09:15] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:16] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:16] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Action: Camarade_Tux runs away [09:16] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:16] The-Croupier: hmmm, maybe your fault :D [09:16] The-Croupier: always after a release, -current is the same as the release [09:16] until -current restarts [09:16] have any of you seen those video's where they rap their order for McDonald's? Well had some kids here in my area do it and now they have to go to court.. one of them could face a class C misdemeanor. http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_13668527 [09:17] Camarade_Tux: im sure its definately my fault ;) [09:17] im thinking i have to find a way to actually sit and find out what i did ;) or what happened ;) [09:17] problem is im hardly at home these days :( [09:17] agentc0re: why? [09:17] hi spook [09:17] hey, its metrofox bongiorno [09:18] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8EB2E.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:18] buongiorno haldir ^^ [09:18] The-Croupier: what is the problem now? what works and what doesn't? [09:18] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8EB2E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] everything else apart from the touchpad, and the buttons left and right that are on that square...the whole thing ;) [09:19] maybe the whole mouse configuration went off ;) [09:21] you completely lost the touchpad? 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[09:24] yeah yeah, got it when you said nm = nothing much [09:24] nm=never mind ;) [09:24] The-Croupier: he, solution :) [09:24] lol [09:25] Camarade_Tux: what do you mean? [09:25] I wronged the acronym too [09:25] well nothing much, just surfing the web and looking for the usual news... [09:25] Camarade_Tux: you mean check the /etc/hal/fdi/policy for an .fdi file? [09:25] I'll do my homework later [09:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.91) joined ##slackware. [09:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: "leaving" [09:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:28] The-Croupier: I can't exactly remember but you want a .fdi file there for configuration [09:29] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:29] Camarade_Tux: ok ;) thanks ;) i will check if it exists .. and see what and how it should be thanks [09:33] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:34] well guys... I go to bed for a while, then I'll do my homework and I'm playing soccer tonight, so... See ya tomorrow(or around 22:30 CEST) :) [09:34] s/tomorrow/today/ [09:34] allend (n=allend@CPE-58-165-44-61.lns1.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:34] s/today/tonight/ or tomorrow ^^ [09:35] The-Croupier: you have an xorg.conf? [09:35] bye mf [09:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-41-225.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:35] bye metrofox [09:36] Camarade_Tux: i remember having one.. as i said its been a while since i have sat and actually messed things up in my slack-box. [09:36] i will do so all day tomorrow though..and im sure i will find some solution... [09:37] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:37] ive been in the channel most of the time.. i do remember at some point conversations about having/ not having xorg.conf....etc.... ;) i will check and i will inform you better tomorrow. ;) [09:37] whatever i say atm...it will be hypothetical...cos im not on my laptop :( [09:39] The-Croupier: try to mv it and restart X again [09:39] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:40] Camarade_Tux: ofc ;) thank you ;) [09:41] im having this small problem with wicd and some wrapper..i dont remember exactly but i think it was just some library or soemthing... i think i can fix both tomorrow ;) [09:41] tamingsari (n=root@211.234.119.5) joined ##slackware. [09:41] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:41] tamingsari kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [09:41] wow...people get kicked for using irc as root?! nice ;) [09:42] heh [09:42] VampX (n=orlandol@190.141.36.191) joined ##slackware. [09:42] windows has no user accounts ;) does that mean they all get kicked :p (most of the accounts are admin, people dont even know the diff ;) ) [09:42] what if a person's first name (in some foreign language) is root, and he happens to put n= in front of it? :) [09:42] titopoquito (n=tito@p508EC78B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [09:42] v3gard: lol ;) [09:42] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:43] fsckroot_ (n=fsckroot@C-61-68-213-30.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:43] we wouldn't want ferriners named root around here either [09:43] in that case, the kickmessage is rather insulting as well :) [09:43] v3gard: the 'n=' just means that it is is user name [09:43] Hi I use the xfce env, but I don;t know why since some time the GNOME desktop turns on ON the top of xfce, I mean the xfce is working but the wallpaper comes from the GNOME ... what might be the cause? [09:43] NaCl: i know :) [09:43] Ok. Just making sure. :) [09:44] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-171.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:44] fjji (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) joined ##slackware. [09:44] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [09:45] okjjnkof (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) joined ##slackware. [09:45] when i was a little puppy [09:45] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-87.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [09:45] guimaluf (n=guimaluf@150.164.3.252) joined ##slackware. [09:46] ... if only it were worth coming back to atm.. ;) [09:47] okjjnkof (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) left irc: Client Quit [09:48] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-131-20.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:48] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:49] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@C-61-68-213-30.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:52] Axius (n=fd@92.84.8.9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] fjji (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:57] Action: The-Croupier loves it that there is a bot as a channel sheriff ;) [09:57] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [10:01] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host86-129-180-197.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:02] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [10:02] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [10:06] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-ysugeoetkdybcjza) joined ##slackware. [10:06] The-Croupier, has a poster of slackboy on his wall [10:06] centerfold [10:07] yay firefox just randomly crashed again [10:07] stay away from those types of sites [10:07] i want a poster of slackboy [10:08] spook: i just read the other day that ff got some million of new users in like 10days or something [10:08] The-Croupier, rly? [10:09] chee: no, im lying [10:09] :( [10:09] chee: yeah man really [10:09] i'll never trust you again [10:10] i got a job interview today ^^ [10:10] good luck chee [10:10] thankyou, haldir [10:10] haldir, are you the same hald who won't recognise my keyboard correctly? [10:11] chee, i dont think so :-) sorry [10:12] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:12] guess that pissed him off [10:13] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-233-178.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:18] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] The-Croupier: maybe the sudden influx of firefox downloads can be attributed to people installing win7 ? just a thought [10:19] it's the first thing i would install on a win box, followed by AV [10:19] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Net drivers -> ff -> chipset drivers [10:23] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) joined ##slackware. [10:25] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:27] ok, at least in slamd64 12.1, there were these files in /etc/pkghelpers.d that were some additional scripts for making packages with slackbuild scripts. I don't know if those also existed in slackware 12.1 too, but is it my understanding that they do *not* exist in slackware 13.0 ? [10:28] need to fix up a slackbuild script of mine that I had used on slamd64 12.1 [10:28] mishehu: what? check slackbuilds.org [10:29] fluxbox randomly crashed on right click :( [10:30] chee: thats not randomly.. thats *on right-click* [10:30] picky perhaps.. but hey [10:30] What's AV? [10:30] Nick_Patterson: adult video? [10:31] Abundant Virility? [10:31] chee: did you edit .fluxbox/keys ? [10:31] Action: chee hits Zordack with an intense glance that he cannot ignore [10:31] gnubien, no, i never have [10:31] should I ? [10:32] Action: Zordrak ignores a comment that looks like it could have been for him.. but since it wasnt containing his nick probably isnt worth reading [10:32] Zordrak: :P [10:32] Action: chee >:0 [10:32] *Zordrak >:0! [10:33] chee: o|-/ [10:33] chee: o|-< [10:33] chee: o|-/ [10:33] Action: Zordrak randomly does riverdance ^ [10:33] Action: chee o|-\ [10:33] THAT's random :) [10:33] Action: chee does riverdance on right click [10:34] what i meant, mr Zordrak , was that I can right click many times without a problem, then on a seemingly random right click, we have trouble [10:35] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-111.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:35] argh.. [10:35] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Action: Zordrak abhorrs the lack of true multilib in 64 [10:35] Action: Zordrak feels conflicted as he doesnt think it should be multilib.. [10:35] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) left irc: "Leaving" [10:36] but i use 64 bit on enterprise boxes that would be wasted on 32bit but enterprisey software only gets released as pre-compiled 32bit [10:37] heh [10:39] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8EB2E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] in this case.. i actually have the 32-compat... but the POS software uses its *own* copy of tar, which depends on 32bit libacl.so.1 which it *doesnt* come with and i dont have [10:39] Nick_Patterson: anti-virus... [10:39] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8B449.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:41] spook: i think i might just give up and not put the netbackup client on lenny & carl.. if i image the OSes anyway.. and the storage is shared by NFS with a pacemaker-managed service-only IP address.. i might just nfs mount on the netbackup server and back it up from there [10:42] just need to test that nfs doesnt go stale during a failover.. which it will.. cause the NB server is solaris.. *weep* [10:42] hello [10:43] _marc` (n=marc@i59F7E187.versanet.de) left irc: [10:43] any ideas as to why my bash login no longer shows my node name, but instead "root@INTERFACE='the0'" [10:43] ? [10:43] *eth0 [10:43] clearly [10:43] spook: worst of all.. the bastards do ship a 64bit.. but only IA64 [10:43] chee: ssh? [10:43] Zordrak: hahahaha [10:44] don't just try and shut me up [10:44] <:D [10:44] no, spook. simply on normal login [10:44] hmm, uname -n also shows "INTERFACE='eth0'" [10:45] chee: youve blown your prompt by playing around with a script and having a syntax error somewhere in the script [10:45] chee: that's your hostname [10:45] thats a guess.. but id put spooks rent on it [10:45] yeah, me too [10:45] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:45] O_o [10:45] Action: Zordrak retracts spook's rent [10:45] do I get to keep spooks' rent if you're wrong? [10:46] thats some epic hostname fail [10:46] hmm.. maybe not.. [10:46] i should put it back on but hedged [10:46] morning everyone [10:47] Action: Zordrak gives Scuzz a unicycle [10:47] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [10:47] morning, Scuzz [10:47] salut [10:48] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) joined ##slackware. [10:48] /etc/HOSTNAME reads the correct hostname [10:49] Action: chee grows a contemplative moustache <:{ [10:49] chee: itll be a script not a config file [10:49] what have you edited recently? [10:49] Action: phrag grows a competetive moustash [10:49] Action: chee uses fertilizer [10:49] netconfig :) [10:50] spook: im not so sure thatll do it [10:50] if it IS a config fail then it will [10:50] Zordrak, It might be better to investigate the sort of config files that could effect this.. [10:50] I've made quite a lot of changes over the past short while [10:50] it's a new system [10:51] netconfig did not help, I tried that last night [10:51] chee: run netconfig.. enter the *right* info.. reboot [10:51] well then its a boned script [10:51] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:51] Action: chee boned a script :( [10:52] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] i would be willing to bet on rc.inet1{,.conf} [10:52] i took a look in there a while ago, but I am not certain on how they are meant to look [10:53] so I left it alone [10:53] i had never edited it before, though [10:53] Action: chee brbgoogle [10:54] chee: whats in /etc/hosts (for giggles){ [10:54] 127.0.0.1 localhost [10:55] 127.0.0.1 discordia.jewel discordia [10:55] -- [10:55] that is all [10:56] run: host 127.0.0.1 [10:56] am i still online? [10:56] no [10:56] wtf [10:56] i can't access the www [10:57] no shit [10:57] when you come back online we'll help you more, for now relay to yourself that you're no longer on irc [10:57] i ran 'host 127.0.0.1' [10:57] it said [10:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:57] ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached [10:57] D:> [10:57] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [10:58] even if servers can be reached you'll get nxdomain, the rfc doesn't allow folks to have 127.0.0.1 [10:58] phrag: see you soon bro.. [10:58] see you soon guys... [10:58] is it anti-slackware to add some useful bash scripts to a slackware package? [10:58] mancha: mine returns localhost fine [10:58] bye, The-Croupier [10:58] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:58] do you have a local dns server? [10:59] Zordrak, i could access the www just moments ago. [10:59] chee: grep -R "INTERFACE=" /etc <-- sanity check [10:59] i.e. a zone for 127.0.0. ? [10:59] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] indeed [10:59] that's why :> [10:59] i know [10:59] me too [10:59] fsckroot_ (n=fsckroot@C-61-68-213-30.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [10:59] was worth a shot [10:59] /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info:INTERFACE='eth0' [11:00] offs [11:00] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.3.1) left irc: "Leaving" [11:00] Action: Zordrak assumed static [11:00] youve killed dhcpcd [11:01] i didn't touch her! [11:01] seems like a reasonable set of evidence against you.. so found by a jury of your peers [11:01] your sentence is death [11:01] <:(( [11:01] are you passing -H to dhcpcd? [11:01] hahah [11:02] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Zordrak, can I still answer mancha's question even though I am sentenced to death [11:02] chee: do what you like.. no one listens to people on death row :) [11:02] VampX (n=orlandol@190.141.36.191) left irc: [11:02] except mad middle-aged spinsters who write you lotters [11:03] like mancha [11:03] *letters [11:03] ahhh, good old Charlie Mansun [11:03] if i understand you have some funkiness in your bash prompt now, so your /etc/HOSTNAME is fubar, ayup? [11:04] no, /etc/HOSTNAME shows the correct name [11:04] ayup?! ..... that's peculiar diction, good sir [11:05] Action: Zordrak uses eyup daily [11:06] Action: Zordrak just realised his error... it uses its own tar which needs a lib........ dont give it a lib.. replace the tar! [11:06] eye lad, as does me.... kinda sends up a warning flare to expect a flat cap and a whippet, though ;) [11:06] aye [11:08] i forget, PS1 gets its host token from uname, ayup? [11:08] Wooo.... cp $(which tar) $(find /path -name tar -type f) [11:08] worked [11:09] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:09] my uname hostname reports as INTERFACE="eth0", and I'd be happy to believe that was the facts [11:09] chee: pastebin your dhcp config [11:09] what is uname -a output? [11:11] Linux INTERFACE='eth0' 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70 GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [11:11] ^-^ [11:12] Zordrak: i can't access the www [11:12] there yar [11:12] wtf, the, fuck [11:12] i believe I mentioned this, and you spat unplayfully with indignance of it all [11:13] chee: do you run your own dhcpd or s it elsewhere? [11:13] i'm unsure of the question [11:14] ah, when you said 'pastebin your dhcp config' did you mean /etc/dhcpd.conf? [11:14] chee: what is your status [11:15] it seems to me you've allowed dhcp to set your hostname from whatever your borked dhcp server says [11:16] if using dhcpcd this would require the -H flag (i think i asked earlier but not sure of the answer on that) [11:16] i . wasn't sure where to look :x [11:17] Zordrak, "s it" ? [11:17] is it [11:18] i've taken a similar approach to ignoring both of Zordrak and steiger's last questions while I am having trouble understanding them [11:19] chee, how do you call dhcpcd to get your ip,dns, etc info [11:19] i let netconfig set everything up for me [11:19] I never ventured as far even as rc.d [11:19] chee: don't worry, my question was senseless [11:19] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] steiger, :D [11:20] better yet, i'll stop, i jumped in the misddle of this and only think i know the problem...my understanding was you you dhcpcd to get dynamic info and as a result your hostname gets borked [11:20] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:20] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [11:20] jonsmith1982: fuh? [11:20] i've just taken note that my DNS config is now also wrong, however it was not wrong just moments ago [11:21] and between it being wrong and being right, i recall changing exactly nothing [11:21] chee: who gives you your IP? [11:21] the router downstairs [11:22] ok.. so EITHER you broke dhcpcd OR your router is some chepa chinese shit and its broke [11:22] *cheap [11:23] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:23] chinese routers are laced with melamine....or was that chinese toothpaste.... [11:23] it's an Airport [11:23] baby milk [11:23] >.< [11:24] i vote for c) all of the above [11:24] that's right baby milk was also a problem right? i had fortgotten that [11:24] i'm with spook on his one [11:24] *this one [11:24] and the toothpaste was asctually something worse, i think antifreeze [11:25] british antifreeze is laced with antifreeze [11:25] bilou042 (n=bilou042@ip-80-236-205-10.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [11:25] chee, oh you're a brit? maybe your router's on the wrong side of the road [11:25] Lol [11:26] that's a good point [11:26] mancha: the correct side [11:26] i'll try moving it later [11:27] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:27] configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode [11:29] i recall those issues with berkeley db and sendmail back in the day [11:29] you probalbyly need to compile with --enable-compat185 [11:30] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:30] hmmm [11:30] 10x [11:31] though slack does that with its berkeley db, not on slack? or not using the official db packages(s)? [11:31] CTCP VERSION: from poofo (poofo!i=poof@195.226.161.149) to ##slackware [11:31] Action: chee cries [11:31] ? [11:31] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@79.114.56.18) joined ##slackware. [11:31] Zord, you all are a shrinking minority (left handers) [11:32] poofo: no thanks. Bye. [11:32] hmm, I notice that in rc.inet1.conf [11:32] how does one make poofo go poofo? [11:32] my Default Gaeway is set to "" [11:32] *gateway [11:32] chee: it would be.. you use dhcp [11:33] o [11:33] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:33] chee: "ip route" ? [11:33] i'm going to setup a static [11:34] chee: awesome plant [11:34] and plan [11:34] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] delicious plants [11:35] Tell me something, you know 'Domain name' [11:35] nvm [11:35] elimisteve (n=fraktil@96.248.230.121) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:36] chee: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+networking+howto [11:36] that's okay [11:36] Print it, bind it, give it to yourself for christmas [11:36] i'd need access to the www to read that [11:37] lol [11:37] chee: output of "ip route"? [11:37] i've actually read these things a million times, and even written a howto for a particular chinese laptop's distribution [11:37] how can you irc? [11:37] chee: if you installed the /f/ series you should have it already [11:37] that's a good point [11:37] i did [11:37] and i read it yesterday [11:37] RobDob (n=rpedrica@165.145.109.17) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:37] i recall [11:37] Action: Zordrak forget to install the /give-a-f/ series [11:38] elimisteve (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-230-121.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] aha! [11:39] * "" [11:39] Your chi is slowly coming into alignment, chee. [11:39] okay [11:39] ip route [11:39] chee: that had better not be the *whole* ouput of ip route [11:39] haha, it's not [11:39] cha-cha-cha-chia [11:39] 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.6 [11:40] Chee-pets. [11:40] 169.254.9.9/16 dev eth0 scope link [11:40] 127.0.0.0/8 dev lo scope link [11:40] Nick, heh at least someone grok'd the jingle [11:40] default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 [11:40] -- [11:40] end [11:40] Action: chee pets [11:40] Action: chee tah [11:40] Action: chee rleaders! [11:40] mancha: You can't forget that jingle once you hear it :P [11:41] yep, it burns a hole through some neurons, definitely [11:41] i will brb. i'm going to try something NUTS [11:41] chee: and /etc/resolv.conf [11:42] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [11:42] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:42] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] since thats clearly where your problem is gonna be right naw [11:42] well, resolv.conf is now correct [11:42] because i fix'd it just now [11:42] and have internet again [11:42] *www [11:42] Nick, how about HeadOn [11:42] <:D [11:42] ...apply directly to the forehead [11:42] hey chee, could you possibly hit return less pls =) [11:43] use the any key instead [11:44] where is it? [11:44] NetBackup is so full of its own BS.. the client isnt "NetBackup Client" ooohh no.. its "NetBackup SAN Client Fibre Transport daemon" [11:44] how can I use use awk to exclude the first two words in a string? (in other words, print third argument and onwards)? [11:45] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-192.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] one of my biggest regrets in life is that i never got around to learning awk [11:45] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Zordrak read these urls? http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/awk/awk1line.txt http://awk.freeshell.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Awk.html http://www.catonmat.net/blog/awk-one-liners-explained-part-one/ [11:45] awk -F " " '{print $3 [input?]}' [11:45] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:45] one stupid question - how to see my slackware version from the console [11:45] WOO!"!!!!!! [11:45] YAAAY [11:45] hahahahah [11:45] i would like to discard the contents of my current life and print only the afterlife. how do i do that? [11:45] tsonev: cat /etc/slackware-version [11:46] Action: Zordrak high-fives spook [11:46] 10x [11:46] spook: wake up and smell it, bitch! [11:46] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:47] yes, phrag. I could [11:47] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:47] awk allows for-loops [11:47] man i could do this all day long [11:47] Action: spook highfives Zordrak [11:48] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) joined ##slackware. [11:48] oh hai [11:48] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:48] oh bai [11:48] Action: metrofox is back [11:48] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) joined ##slackware. [11:48] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:48] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] irc has an /away command, use it. [11:49] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Intel[R]VT-x_: oh wait.. was that yaur bus? [11:49] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:49] v3gard, i'd use cut though, simpler for this task [11:49] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) left irc: No route to host [11:50] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-148-188.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] echo $string | cut --delimiter=" " -f 3- [11:50] that might do the trick, who knows [11:50] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.37.1) joined ##slackware. [11:50] cut -d" " -f3- [11:50] v3gard: awk '{for(i=3;i<=NF;++i) printf "%s ", $i;print ""}' [11:50] that did the trick mancha, thanks [11:50] what was happened ? [11:50] gnubien: that should work as well :) ty [11:50] yeah or zord's, better flag version [11:50] spook: awww.. he spoiled my phun [11:51] awk '{print $3}' [11:51] bugs @freenode I think [11:51] oh and onwards nevermind [11:51] Zordrak: what was that ? [11:51] Zordrak: yeah [11:51] spook: ssshhhhh [11:51] :) [11:51] Zordrak: i'm sushing [11:51] hahah [11:54] Action: Zordrak would love to sit an basque in that epic hilarity.. but have to drive to grantham during rush hour :( [11:56] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] hi all slackware ppl , you all are my friends and I have gone to the ##csharp and told them that I am a linux kernel programming expert , if they anyhow asks from you please tell them that I am a expert. ;) , please don't let me down. [11:58] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:58] Intel[R]VT-x: oh well if you're an expert kernel programmer you can help me with this problem i'm having [11:58] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:58] not that much but more than the ppl relative to ##csharp [11:59] Intel[R]VT-x: trick or treat! ;) [11:59] don't engage the nonsense troll [11:59] Intel[R]VT-x: see theres this pgoff_mmap that keeps causing a stack overflow, but only on x86_64 [11:59] Action: Zordrak just pasted that into ##csharp :) [11:59] Intel[R]VT-x: but theres nothing architecture specific done with the pgoff_mmap, any ideas? [12:00] come on spook , I just need it. You ppl are my friends. [12:00] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Intel[R]VT-x: if you're going to claim to be an expert at anything you need the expertise to back it up. [12:01] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:01] I know , I can't but I can be among the #csharp non much skilled ppl [12:01] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.214) joined ##slackware. [12:01] they are just doing programming for money [12:02] just make your own channel #cnottosharp [12:02] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [12:02] hm! [12:02] or #cnottoosharp even, joke fail++ [12:03] we all experts when compared with them. we should be happy. [12:03] Now I've got a static IP, I can resolve names to IP, and things are working somewhat as expected. But my uname -n still shows INTERFACE='eth0' [12:04] i very much appreciate the help, btw, gentlemen. [12:04] Intel[R]VT-x: there i helped you out [12:04] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:04] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [12:04] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:05] Intel[R]VT-x needs to stfu [12:05] thumbs need to go back on my hands [12:05] Action: Intel[R]VT-x taught that I have friends in ##slackware but they were not :( [12:05] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Intel[R]VT-x: i got a c tutorial if you can figure out how to rename files you receive in email [12:06] Hey nyRednek :) [12:07] Nick_Patterson: hey [12:07] ttfn.. see y'all monday [12:07] Zordrak: have fun [12:07] Action: chee waves goodbye to Zordack [12:07] Intel[R]VT-x: if you want it, /msg me your email address and i'll send it back to you [12:07] chee, You can look in *all* files in /etc/rc.d/ and search for the string "INTERFACE=" with: grep -r "INTERFACE=" /etc/rc.d/* [12:08] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Action: nyRednek is unsure if Intel[R]VT-x can use the refresher one, but knows he can use the semi-noob one [12:08] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [12:08] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [12:10] daleciou1 (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [12:10] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [12:11] dangerseeker: the only one that contains the string within rc.d is rc.inet1 [12:12] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:13] itsa me mario! [12:13] no its not [12:13] lol [12:13] weegee [12:13] ;) [12:13] Action: spook awkward weegee stares at mario [12:14] o_O [12:14] Action: spook awkward weegee stares at mario...... [12:16] haha [12:16] mario: you're meant to turn into weegee [12:16] no im not [12:16] l2meme [12:17] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-192.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:17] haha [12:17] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Trying to install lua51 using the slackbuilds package but I'm getting an error about it not finding lua-1.5.4_autotools.... [12:18] Which I didn't have when i installed this on my laptop yesterday... [12:18] Cryp71c: got all the prereqs for it? [12:18] it was bash waiting to happen [12:19] spook, yeah I have everything the slackbuilds page lists. [12:19] Cryp71c: actually installed? double check with /var/log/packages/ [12:20] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:20] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:20] fuck this, i'm installing w7 [12:20] chee: have fun [12:20] spook: i was only joking please don't [12:21] please dont what? disown you? [12:21] /me was thinking about banning [12:21] ;-) [12:21] :D [12:21] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] i can't find my Slack DVD [12:22] spook, strange, it worked when I redownloaded everything. [12:22] First local copy must've been corrupt [12:22] Cryp71c: did you check that everything was installed? [12:22] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [12:22] Cryp71c: did you md5 the source tarball? [12:22] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.214) joined ##slackware. [12:22] spook, nopey [12:23] well...... [12:23] (neither the first time, nor this time0 [12:23] but its working now, as i stated. [12:23] you only have yourself to blame. [12:23] And you, because I can :) [12:23] Although I'm wrong. [12:23] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:23] fucking timezones [12:23] quick! blame chee and his dodgy right click! [12:24] I just raced to uni, totally convinced that Im too late [12:24] hehe, daylight savings? [12:24] but it look like Orage uses UTC per default [12:24] so, Im an hour too early [12:24] thx Orage [12:24] daleciou1 (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:24] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [12:25] thats what happens when you update to slack 13 and expect your calendar to behave the same [12:25] and since when has xchat error checking [12:25] sidh (n=tinom@intellitec2.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:27] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:27] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left irc: Connection timed out [12:27] updating from 12.1 -> 13 is funky [12:27] Is it considered bad form to create binaries in /usr/bin so that programs which do not place any kind of binary in those locations (Aptana) can be run from terminal easily? [12:28] hmm.... symlink, maybe? [12:28] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:28] Id go with a symlink or add to path [12:29] or maybe even an alias [12:30] slackytude, is there a logical decision behind which programs go into /usr/bin , /usr/local/bin , etc.? [12:31] /usr/local is used for stuff only a single machine has. whereas /usr should be the same across all systems [12:32] that usually means /usr/local is not controlled by package managment [12:32] Its part of the LSB [12:33] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] My view is: /usr/local is used for all the stuff you compile yourself without using packages/buildscripts, or for specifically configured software that runs on your machine only, or installs an alternative version of something already present. And /usr is for packages that were built to work on multiple systems [12:33] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Cryp71c: So, I'm thinking it's definitely the high-grade fuel that I used (until very recently). Now, with a second tank of mid-grade, my DTE is reading 30 KM more. Maybe after the third and fourth tank, things will be back to normal. :) [12:36] Nick_Patterson, ah...gotcha, well that's good to hear. [12:36] and you're better with /usr/local/libX without the same libs as /usr/libX [12:37] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] bilou042 (n=bilou042@ip-80-236-205-10.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Quitte" [12:38] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-233-178.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:39] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:40] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:44] Axius (n=fd@92.84.12.162) joined ##slackware. [12:44] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.231.165) joined ##slackware. [12:45] hi [12:45] Nick change: winter -> Guest7238 [12:45] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [12:48] who the hell is 82.168.82.6 [12:50] hahahah (nsfw) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Body_painting.JPG [12:51] Camarade_Tux: in referenance to your earlier question today .. "hmm no" ;) [12:51] BP{k}: ='( [12:51] kethry: BP{k} said no! ='( [12:51] do penguins /have/ belly buttons? [12:51] I have a system that has both pata and sata drives. till now i was running my system without an initrd (compiling the kernel with the fs drivers and rest as modules) and my sata drive was recognised as sda and pata as sdb. Now when i make an initrd for the stock generic-smp kernel, the kernel and initrd seem to be loaded fine but when it tries to mount the rootfs it gives an error and then gives me a shell(not like the usual shell) and then asks me to [12:52] Nick change: Guest7238 -> winter [12:52] tl;dr [12:52] Camarade_Tux: although I am a sort of reasonable guy .. and not imune to bribery. ;) [12:53] initially this was shown as /dev/sdb. I am using "mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m ext2 -f ext2 -r /dev/sdb6" to make the initrd [12:53] is there a way to apply a hunk of a patch at a time? [12:53] man [12:53] Camarade_Tux: http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-7209.aspx <-- would seem like a decent start. [12:54] I have alos tried"mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m ext2", thinking that explicitly specifying the partition may be a problem but it did not help [12:54] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:55] Action: theblackbox had a 1975 Ardbeg a few years back... was mighty damn fine [12:56] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:56] spook, i looked but didn't spot it [12:56] akshat: what does "/usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh" tell you? [12:57] wait [13:00] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -f ext2 -r /dev/sdb6 -m ext2 -o /boot/initrd.gz [13:00] BP{k}: hahaha :P [13:01] this is the same as the one i used first [13:02] akshat: it would be wise to try booting the Slackware huge kernel and then running /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh again. Perhaps your custom kernel does things differently with regard to sata/pata drive assignment [13:03] alienBOB: I am currently using the hugesmp kernel from the slackware dvd [13:03] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:05] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:06] akshat: you did edit /etc/lilo.conf to add an initrd line *and* re-ran lilo? [13:06] daleciou1 (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [13:06] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:06] yes. I would not have booted with the initrd otherwise [13:08] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.100) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [13:10] bah, split takes too much cpu time [13:10] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [13:10] :D [13:10] Action: chee celebrates [13:11] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [13:12] spook, I invite you to join in my revelry. [13:12] alienBOB: is there a way to tell the kernel the order in which it should create device nodes, eg pata before sata [13:13] hmmm, where can I put autostart apps for xfce? [13:13] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:13] I am thinking that my bios is reporting the pata first whereas the kernel treats the sata as first, hence the confusion with the device nodes [13:14] Camarade_Tux: Sessions and autostart? [13:15] Axius (n=fd@92.84.12.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:15] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-131-20.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "something to dd nearby here..." [13:16] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [13:16] ...in Settings [13:16] I need something to start along with xfce [13:16] without xinit if possible [13:18] dalecious (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [13:18] daleciou1 (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:19] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:19] Is there anyway to force a disk to unmount while its "busy"? Im trying to install a program on two cd's and it gets half way and prompts for the second disk but I cannot unmount the first one to mount the second. [13:20] Camarade_Tux: http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce-utils#utils-scripts [13:21] thanks BP{k} and alienBOB . I'll read more on initrd and see if i can resolve the problem. Will let you know if i find a solution [13:21] thanks [13:21] bye [13:22] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.231.165) left ##slackware. [13:23] holy shit [13:23] lowut: try 'eject -a 0; eject -t; eject -a 1' [13:23] you may have to wait a few seconds between commands [13:24] so 'eject -a 0; sleep 10; eject -t; eject -a 1' [13:24] lol [13:24] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:24] steiger, what's your status? [13:25] hmm, any special groups i need to be a part of to pass usb devices to virtualbox? im already in floppy, audio, video, cdrom, plugdev, power and netdev [13:25] spider1010: thanks a lot [13:25] no, you should be good mag0o [13:25] chee: haha [13:25] your welcome [13:26] chee: high, actually [13:26] thats what i thought, but i must be missing something here. i've done it before on this laptop, but have since rebuilt [13:26] steiger, :D [13:26] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:27] hi, dr fire|bird [13:27] hi chee [13:27] Greetings everyone. :) [13:27] brb [13:27] mag0o: i had an issue with vbox and usb in slack 13 try this if you can't get it to work. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/cannot-use-any-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-572305/ [13:27] hey fire|bird [13:28] you will want to edit the rc.S [13:28] heya Necos [13:29] Hi! Everybody. Hi Dr. Nick. [13:29] hi [13:30] y0 nooper [13:30] spider1010, I still cant get it to eject [13:30] found it, i think i need to add myself to vboxusers! [13:30] o/ [13:30] brb [13:30] hello spider1010 [13:30] that would be good to do first mag0o [13:30] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [13:30] oh lol [13:30] spider10101, it sets it to auto but just sits there, and when i try just normal eject i get "device is busy" [13:31] i was a vboxuser member and still had an issue so try that then, as a last resort edit rc.S [13:33] try to umount the drive before and after eject -a 0 [13:33] ugh, i really shouldn't even be at work, but since one of my coworkers decided to go awol, i had to come in [13:33] josemanuel (n=josemanu@54.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:33] hey fire|bird :) [13:33] hey Camarade_Tux [13:34] lolwut also try doing as root [13:34] You shouldn't have to edit rc.S for that. [13:34] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-ysugeoetkdybcjza) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [13:34] hopefully not [13:35] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-itzozvgvsabnodtl) left irc: [13:35] thats the only way i could get it to work for me. [13:35] what would you edit rc.S to do anyway? [13:35] spider1010, I got it out without killing the install with eject -m cdrom but now it doesnt see the new one, also it wouldent let me unmount before [13:36] ah! [13:36] i did notice that in the old slackware versoins [13:37] and you don't have to edit rc.S, you just need to change the fstab entry as per the last post [13:37] eject -m eject the drive but doesn't remove from the /etc/mtab or /proc/mount. try messing with umount and eject so more [13:37] k [13:38] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-176-106.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:38] yoyo fire|bird :) [13:38] Right. The proper place to fix this is in /etc/fstab. [13:39] Necos: why do you alway have to be right. j/k [13:39] i'll have to try that [13:39] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:40] spider1010: If you'd actually read rc.S, you would have seen that it looks for an entry for usbfs in /etc/fstab and mounts it with options presented in that file, otherwise it mounts it with those defaults. [13:40] so if i edit fstab to allow the devgid to be that of the vboxusers group (and i am a member of said group) i should be able to plug in and use the device in virtualbox? [13:41] Now I'm off to drink some beers at lunch and charge everything to the company credit card. [13:41] Alan_Hicks: i said i would check it out get the hint. shut up [13:41] mag0o: Yes. [13:41] go get drunk [13:41] lol Alan_Hicks, save some for me :) [13:41] Oh I won't get drunk, just a little buzzed. [13:41] lol sure [13:41] still not available to use in vbox [13:41] =\ [13:42] did you remount the usb fs [13:42] mount -a [13:42] it's not a flash drive if that mounters [13:42] not a read/write disk i should say [13:43] or just restart your system man [13:43] its a token that contains a certificate file [13:43] yea i have a smart card to [13:43] and use it in vbox [13:44] k [13:44] lemme try logging out/in [13:44] i really hope the dod starts migrating to open source soon or in the next 1000 yrs. [13:45] yes thats 1000, a big number [13:45] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [13:45] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@79.114.56.18) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [13:46] mag0o loging in and out doesn't remount your fs's but will help if you didn't do it after adding yourself to the vboxuser group [13:46] spider1010: divide 2010 by 1010. since you're good with numbers. [13:47] 1.990099009900990099009900990099 [13:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] thats what my computer told me [13:47] AD1million (n=AD1milli@c-98-217-140-149.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] check it again... there must be a glitch. [13:48] ah, fstab + login/out did the trick [13:49] dunno what the diff is though [13:49] brb [13:49] i logged out after adding myself to vboxusers but before changing the fstab entry [13:50] i compared my vbox install of slack to xen install of slack and xen owned vbox [13:50] this is on a cpu without virtualization [13:50] Is this an appropriate place to ask a question about an installation problem? [13:50] AD1million, if it has to do with slackware. [13:50] yes, it does [13:50] then fire away [13:50] then go ahead and ask [13:50] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-131-20.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:51] vbox flys on an i7 =) [13:52] ahh yea i got an i7 at home [13:52] Nick change: dalecious -> dale [13:52] with a cpu that has amd-v or vt, i'd use kvm [13:52] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:52] www.slackwiki.org still not fixed [13:53] the assholes registrar probably puts a 1 week TTL on www [13:53] yeah they wonder that. [13:53] jeev: It should be soon, erik updated it yesterday, the registrar is slow apparently. [13:53] who's erik [13:53] in here [13:53] dns is still poiting to the advertiser [13:54] He's not in here, no. [13:54] i see [13:54] everyone must be travelling like 100 Mbps per hour. [13:54] Last Updated On:28-Oct-2009 11:52:31 UTC [13:54] i tink he forgot about dns. [13:56] I've been using freebsd for the last 6-7 years, I'm trying to install slackware 13, now, on a separate harddrive. I know my hardware is stable.I've tried 8 times to install slackware, all failures. [13:56] how is it failing [13:56] You need to be more specific than just "all failures" [13:56] AD1million: have you turned on the computer within the last century? [13:56] get (n=winsucks@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:57] After fdisking and formatting and copying the 5gb of files to the drive, setup goes automatically to fccache [13:57] and fccache crashes my scsi card every time [13:58] sad case. we'll find a way to make you work better. [13:58] with a few hundred lines of SG error messages and a card dump [13:59] I've had this machine run for months at a time [13:59] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "lalala" [13:59] four months? that's pretty long. [13:59] Camarade_Tux: so? and you expect me to convince BP{k} otherwise? ..... nope. :) [13:59] It works really good on freebsd. unfortunately freebsd hasn't kept up their ports collection very well [13:59] spider1010, I cant figure this out, no matter what I do the device is considered busy and nothing can be done to it [13:59] Hey kethry, how are you doing? [14:00] hi fire|bird ... am good ta. you? [14:00] I am great, thank you. :) [14:00] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.42.134) joined ##slackware. [14:00] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [14:01] the setup app doesn't give me a choice about running fccache, it just does it [14:01] get (n=winsucks@82-194-76-212.hsle.hostalia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:01] what day is it, guys? [14:01] AD1million: sorry about that. the fccache doesn't run when you choose to do it. [14:02] chee: Well, I don't know about where you are, but here it's Friday. :P [14:02] wow :/ [14:02] dale, is there any way to work around this, or at least find out why fccache should card dump my scsi card? [14:02] i didn't even notice this whole week disappear [14:03] me neither chee [14:03] i thought it was tues yesterday [14:04] i thought it was wednesday today [14:04] heh [14:04] we're both from another world where it's a couple of days ago [14:04] so we would both think it's wednesday today [14:04] maybe two days were taken, and we were the only ones who noticed [14:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Nick change: wertik_rus -> hmara [14:05] APB issued for Wed and THur [14:05] chronovores ate them [14:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [14:06] AD1million: it sounds like getting rid of the fc-cache call wouldn't really help you (it would crap out doing something else) [14:07] Urchlay, it makes it through 5gb of file unpacking and copying [14:07] hey unsettling|hydrogens [14:07] er, Urchlay [14:07] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:07] kethry: pleeaaase =) [14:08] hm. Well, if you want to avoid running fc-cache, don't install the fontconfig package from the X series (but don't expect X to work either, pretty sure it's required for most/all X apps, if not the X server itself) [14:08] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:08] hey, detention|describer [14:09] eh, fire|bird [14:09] Also, according to the error log on tty4, everything is fine right up until the time fccache runs. But what could fccache be doing with the scsi card that isn't already being done during the 5gb before that? [14:09] Urchlay, lol >.< [14:10] how do I install flash adobe ? the tar xvzf install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz gives some lib instead of directory [14:10] dale (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:10] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:10] dale (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) joined ##slackware. [14:10] fc-cache just builds a db of sorts, why'd you wage war against it? [14:10] Plus it's been running freebsd for the last 6 years, without scsi card card dumps [14:10] Camarade_Tux: let me put it this way: BP{k} is closer than you are. :) [14:11] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:11] AD1million: the only thing I can think of: it's doing a lot more reads from your drive than installing packages would do (that's mostly reads from the CD drive and writes to the HD, but writing to the HD involves some reading too) [14:11] what SCSI card's in it? there are some overlaps in which cards are supported by which drivers, might be a different one you could try [14:12] adaptec 2940 dual channel (aic-7895 based) [14:13] on the double. [14:13] can you tell (from the boot messages) what driver is it using? there are separate aic7xxx and aic7xxx_old drivers... [14:13] pronto [14:13] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) joined ##slackware. [14:13] giuppy (n=giuppy@host57-166-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Nick change: hmara -> hmara|shave [14:14] the boot message didn't mention "_old" so I'd suppose the aic7xxx driver [14:14] try booting the installer and logging in, then "lsmod|grep aic" [14:15] hmara|shave (n=wertik@95-27-176-106.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] (I haven't used the 13.0 installer, I dunno whether it's loading an aic7xxx module or whether that driver's built in to the installer kernel) [14:15] if lsmod shows the aic7xxx driver loaded, try "rmmod aic7xxx ; modprobe aic7xxx_old" [14:15] Urchaly, ok. be back in a few minutes [14:15] Urchlay: perhaps you should join #distrowatch [14:16] which package I should get for slackpkg to have flash workign ? [14:16] why, what's in #distrowatch? [14:16] paul, dl the plugin from the evil flash plugin makers and stuff it in your mozilla plugin dir [14:17] assuming you're the mozilla sort, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or summitz [14:17] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-176-106.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:18] or ~/.mozilla/plugins if you only care about getting it work as one user... [14:18] dl no such packlage found [14:18] there was one other thing I could think of. the freebsd ahc driver can use memory mapped io to the scsi card, but by default doesn't because some mobos can't handle that. does the hugesmp kernel default to memory mapped or port io? [14:18] mancha told me to tell you. distrowatch sucks. [14:19] AD1million: that, I know not, but check the docs for the driver (normally in the kernel source tree, sorta hard for you to read if you can't make it thru an install, but there are mirrors of it all over the web) [14:19] huh? [14:19] paul424: flash is not part of slackware. [14:19] (or at least not in package format) [14:19] dale, what the hell does that mean? [14:19] ok Urchlay. be back [14:20] AD1million (n=AD1milli@c-98-217-140-149.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:20] help... someone flaming me. [14:21] mancha told me to tell you. distrowatch sucks. [14:21] dale: you probably deserved it. [14:21] see you said it. [14:21] and you're flaming me, are you some kind of idiot troll? [14:22] hm. kernel docs have separate aic7xxx.txt, aic79xx.txt, and aic7xxx_old.txt [14:23] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [14:25] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-216-67.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:26] i want a word with you BP[k] NOW in my office Don't give me that look on your face because you think you know what you're doing you're the one playing games you fool... [14:26] josemanuel (n=josemanu@54.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:27] dale: uh.. [14:28] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-132-185.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [14:33] someone said 10.0.32.18 was a big performance imrovement, tue dat? [14:33] i'm having hardware problems right now. might be a little far away to reach from where i'm sitting. [14:34] AD1million (n=AD1milli@c-98-217-140-149.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] hello, Urchlay? I just checked. lsmod and modprobe don't find either 7xxx or 7xxx_old [14:35] AD1million: boy i tell you... [14:35] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:35] the exact driver listed in dmesg is [14:36] scsi2: adaptec eisa/vlb/pci scsi hba driver 7.0 [14:36] AD1million: since i'm not a hacker but a network admin, i could exploit you pretty damn easy and you'd get scratched. [14:37] rrrgh, you're going to need to pass kernel params to tell it what driver to load, and I can't remember how to do that (haven't needed to in years) [14:37] dale: really now.. [14:37] guimaluf (n=guimaluf@150.164.3.252) left irc: "4:20 Saindo" [14:37] what kind of exploit? [14:37] eddief (n=eddie@pool-68-161-209-154.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Candy_Corn_0day.exe [14:38] like using other peoples computer to get the other computer. [14:38] you mean a smurf attack? [14:38] AD1million: I think this dale person is either a bot, or maybe a human who fails the Turing test... [14:38] Action: acidchild giggles [14:38] Urchlay: your not talking about dale, your talking about yourrself! [14:38] thats funny ^_^ [14:38] nope. like the gargamel you are. [14:38] dale: I..hope you're not serious [14:39] well I've tried to harden our firewall as best I can, and am running ipf on this machine [14:39] nothing is proof against everything, I guess [14:40] AD1million: I still wish ipf would get ported to Linux :( [14:40] you've come a long way. don't make it harder. [14:40] It's not? oh. I'd say ipf is alright. at least it's quick and easy [14:41] firewalls are over rated. [14:41] I know. [14:41] think there used to be an ipf for Linux 2.0 kernels, but it never got updated to work with anything newer [14:41] Action: Intel[R]VT-x_ is going to tar all tpld.org and rapidshare it and publish it on the flazx.com [14:41] doesn't ipf 4.x work on zee linux? [14:42] hrrr, yeah, looking at a page that says that now [14:42] Intel[R]VT-x_: your nick is quite retarded [14:42] lol [14:43] would you happen to know if debian depends on using fccache during it's install? [14:43] I'll be Core2Duo..quick..someone else be HyperThreading.. Someone needs to be no-execute too! [14:43] lol [14:43] what don't you like about netfilter? i am quite happy especially with the recent module additions [14:43] Who wants to be x86_64? [14:44] AD1million why don't you just hack the setup code to not run fc-cache ? [14:44] or replace fc-cache with NOP code [14:44] have to have a working install of it first, in order to have a way to compile a new kernel [14:44] ?? [14:45] I've gotten as far as booting the 13 cd [14:45] fc-cache isn't part of the kernel [14:45] you're not grok'ing me solider [14:45] Nick change: wertik_rus -> hmara-yshlepalo [14:45] soldier even [14:45] guess what... nothings' inside. psh. [14:46] to recompile setup, I still need an installation to recompile with [14:46] setup is a shell script [14:46] oh [14:46] actually it's a bunch of scripts, you could just rm the one for fontconfig before it runs [14:47] you mean make a new cd? [14:47] only cats can find a patch of floor that tastes good [14:47] switch to a different tty, check where the mountpoint is for the system you're installing (/mnt/something), and rm var/log/setup/setup.05.fontconfig (relative to the mountpoint) [14:47] acidchild: i should quote you on that so you can get a tee bone steak. [14:48] is it able to rm files from the cd? [14:48] I bet if you do that though, it'll die during "updating desktop database" instead (that's the next setup script) [14:48] you're rm'ing a file from the installed system, not from the CD [14:49] so it still will die anyways. That means I need to find a way to stop fccache from crashing the system [14:49] as the typing flows the more suggestions are made... pictures across the room don't make a sense until they find the right words to express it. [14:49] fc-cache isn't your problem. A bad SCSI driver is. [14:50] dale: how do i make a T-bone steak off the tastey patch the cat found on the floor? [14:50] it couldn't find either either mod to rmmod [14:50] grab the cat feed the dog take the dog feed the cat... it gets bigger. [14:51] the correct solution is going to be, force the installer kernel to use a different driver (probably aic7xxx_old), or else force the current driver to run without memory-mapped I/O... Both of those things would be accomplished by passing parameters at the boot prompt, but I don't know exactly what param(s) to pass, off the top of my head [14:51] i'm perpetually confused by dale [14:51] ok sounds likea plan Urchlay. [14:51] http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/scsi/aic79xx.txt <--- possibly this will help you in your research? [14:51] thanks [14:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:52] I'd best go before dale finds a way through our firewall and my ipf [14:52] the various driver docs there will talk about "module parameters", there's a way to pass "module" parameters to built-in drivers on the boot prompt cli [14:53] think you just prepend drivername and a dot... so to pass "foo=bar" to aic7xxx, it'd be "aic7xxx.foo=bar" [14:54] Ok. Thank you Urchlay. You've been very helpful [14:54] hm, you have a 2940? aic79xx doesn't claim to support that (but aic7xxx does?) [14:54] hope you get it working [14:54] 2940 dual channel aic-7895 [14:55] it's not a bad old server [14:55] AD1million: call me. make sense in a million years to be sure you're talking straight. [14:56] dale, what in heck are you talking about? [14:56] AD1million: seriously dude, dale is some kind of chatter-bot, not a human person [14:56] I guess so. they always fool [14:56] I guess so. they always fool me [14:57] they've only advanced slightly since the old Eliza was first written [14:57] :) [14:58] ok then. I'll be back if I make any progress or need any more advice [14:58] cool [14:58] AD1million (n=AD1milli@c-98-217-140-149.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:58] I didn't mean it Urchlay. [14:59] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.45.85) joined ##slackware. [14:59] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:59] Srbo (i=1000@dslb-084-059-078-099.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Srbo (i=1000@dslb-084-059-078-099.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:03] whoops. i must've missed an episode of late nite with the blue moon & the clouds. [15:06] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. 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I can't just bring the modem and connect because the mo [15:10] sup all, So I sold my desktop to a friend, which had slackware 12.2 on there w/ all of my stuff, and everything worked fine. When I sold it to him, I reinstalled slack12.2 fresh and no sound. :x [15:10] s/connection in the server/download in the server [15:10] Why didnt you put 13 on it? [15:10] havent downloaded it yet. [15:11] had 12.2 on dvd and it worked good on that pc. [15:11] so i ran slackpkg update / upgrade-all [15:12] alsaconf / chmod 666 /dev/sdp* / chmod 666 /dev/mixer* [15:13] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:13] still no soudn [15:13] sound* [15:13] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:13] I have no idea what could be the issue [15:14] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] sound worked perfectly the day i sold it to him [15:15] any ideas anyone? [15:17] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.45.85) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [15:17] dale (n=malajove@121.1.54.50) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:18] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [15:21] xjkx (n=xjkx@unaffiliated/xjkx) left irc: "Leaving." [15:23] spider1010 (n=spider10@66.37.250.51) left irc: "Java user signed off" [15:24] beatzz: cat /etc/inittab > /dev/dsp # Make any noise? [15:24] cant tell, im not at the pc. [15:24] ur looking for a system beep? [15:25] beatzz: and the speakers are on/properly plugged in and working? [15:25] yes BP{k} [15:25] beatzz: No, that would sound like white-noise, not like a system beep. [15:26] Alan_Hicks: thanks i will try that tonight, im gana go over there and fix it in a while. [15:27] i will be on irc while i troubleshoot it. [15:27] my gcc seems to have poo'd itself [15:27] O_o [15:28] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:30] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-enwrigrbekguenob) joined ##slackware. [15:33] hiptobecubic: did you guys test out 2.6.3 v/v? [15:33] y0 agentc0re|work [15:33] didn't spend long on it, didn't get it to do anything [15:33] yo fire|bird. [15:33] how goes? [15:33] hiptobecubic: so, it didn't work then i guess... [15:34] fire|bird: good. today turned out to be a half day at work. my morning expedite lasted longer than i though. [15:34] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs fire|bird [15:34] it's free! [15:35] lol [15:35] more expidite? >.> [15:35] Kodak [15:35] morning expedite? lol i can't type today [15:35] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.213.43) joined ##slackware. [15:35] wow, I borked my Ubuntu VM, \o/ [15:35] \o/ [15:36] hmara-yshlepalo (n=wertik@95-27-176-106.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [15:36] one of my coworkers brought in a hacked copy of win7 [15:36] It had a kernel update, so I did that, restarted it, reinstalled Guest Additions, and bam, it won't start. [15:36] i was like "let me put this in a VM... oh, wait..." [15:36] lol [15:36] fire|bird: good, now, bork deco's real install [15:37] Necos: The wrath of M$ would come down upon you. :P [15:37] agentc0re|work, not so much. [15:37] it requires 2gigs of ram... i only have 2 gigs of ram total :( [15:37] gcc can't seem to find my stdlib... any idea what this is about? http://vpaste.net/UdBvS [15:37] hiptobecubic: maybe the gst stuff needs updating along with farsight2 [15:37] Camarade_Tux: su -c "rm -rf Ubuntu" "P [15:37] :P [15:37] Necos: expedition is probably a better word. [15:37] agentc0re|work, yes probably. i haven't installed the new gst-plugins-farsight [15:38] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.161.74) left irc: "+-||\-" [15:38] fire|bird: ;-) [15:38] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] lol agentc0re :P [15:38] spiraliz (n=spiraliz@136.81-167-26.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] where'd ya run off to? [15:39] bleah, who was it mentioned in here that ipf is supposed to work on linux 2.6? [15:39] Action: Necos points at Urchlay [15:39] naw, up until an hour ago, I thought it only worked on 2.0 kernels [15:40] oh, i must have been afk when that happened then >.> [15:40] Necos: was at the doctors for an eye exam. [15:40] you're going blind? [15:41] oh nice [15:41] Necos: yes, and for the second time. [15:41] if he goes blind, hopefully he can't irc [15:41] geez >.> [15:41] jeev, shaddap >.> [15:41] agentc0re|work: Well, 3rd time's the charm. :P [15:41] fire|bird: lol [15:41] agentc0re is actually helpful [15:41] fire|bird, lol [15:41] Lol I just read "going blind" and I thought somebody was choking the chicken. [15:41] jeev: hey, you have bsd servers right? which arch? [15:42] >.> [15:42] I mean, x86/x86-64, other? [15:42] Camarade_Tux, i use 7.2 32 and 64bit [15:42] Nick_Patterson, that's ewww [15:42] haven't tried 8 yet [15:42] Nick_Patterson: What Neco's does is his own business. :P [15:42] o_O [15:42] i had PRK done in 2001, and now things are blury again. i used to be -4.25 in each eye, now it's L -1.75 R-.75. [15:43] jeev: can you try compiling some code? I'm trying to check if something is portable [15:43] yea [15:43] fire|bird, ewwwww >.> man, why would i do that when i can get a pretty lady to do it for me [15:43] Necos: fire|bird: hahah [15:43] Plus some weird random cross eye'd blurry effect as been happening.. it's really strange but doesn't happen very often. [15:43] wtf agentc0re, that's terrible [15:44] agentc0re|work: hmmm just like when i use my nvidia drivers [15:44] you're gonna have a funky prescription [15:44] lol [15:44] jeev: http://vpaste.net/nV629? [15:45] Necos: ya, i know. it's jacked up. I thought i got rid of glasses for good. [15:45] compile instructions included [15:45] damn, the pillows kick ass [15:45] and expected output too [15:46] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:46] agentc0re: cataracts? [15:47] comrad, i dont have 'ffi' [15:47] although that wouldnt cause your eyes to cross assuming i read what you said correctly [15:48] agentc0re|work: Were your pupils dialated? (I hate when they do that) [15:48] jeev: ok, nevermind then [15:48] thanks anyway :) [15:48] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:49] heh [15:49] somebody on netbsd sparc tested and it worked :) [15:50] gay [15:50] so it should work on freebsd x86 [15:50] probably [15:50] i could install ffi if you really want [15:51] no, I don't absolutely need it, my main concern is windows now [15:51] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.93.176) joined ##slackware. [15:52] ugh, apparently ipf for linux depends on devfs, how long has devfs been deprecated now? [15:52] devfs has been deprecated since early 2.6 if not 2.5 [15:52] headers are being gay but i dun [15:53] yeah, something tells me this ain't worth the effort [15:53] I'd be more productive doing absolutely nothing than I am right now trying to get ipf to compile... [15:53] the last support i know of was in the late 2.4 series, so it was probably deprecated since 2.5 [15:55] comrad, weird stuff on bsd. can't find headers and stuff, workaround.. it's broken and i'm too sick to think about it [15:57] Urchlay: you may be able to port it easily enough [15:59] Camarade_Tux: maybe. I freely admit I understand nothing at all about how udev works, at the kernel level... if it turns out to be absolutely necessary, then I probably will give up (I don't care enough) [15:59] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.213.43) left irc: ""Time to go now"" [16:00] Urchlay: if there is still a filesystem interface but under a different name, it should be easy [16:00] now, if you have to revamp everything... 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[16:04] the build system also seems to expect "uname -m" and "uname -i" to both say "x86_64" (on Linux, on my machine anyway, "uname -i" returns "AuthenticAMD")... this part's easy to fix, just another annoyance [16:04] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:07] heh Urchlay, why do you need ipf anywho? [16:07] don't [16:08] just wanted to play with it [16:08] You wanna play? You pay. [16:08] why not make a vm to compile it in? [16:09] use slack12 x86_64 and scu [16:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer" [16:09] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.59.129.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] *such [16:09] Necos: what, a vm with an old kernel version? because you can't take a kernel module from an old kernel version and load it into a newer kernel [16:10] now, if I wanted to also *run* it in a VM, that could be done... [16:10] heh, there is no slack 12 x86_64, remember? :) [16:10] static links? [16:10] huh? [16:11] link the ipf statically to the kernel? [16:11] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] it would still need to be an old-ass kernel [16:11] does it use dlopen or somesuch? if not you should be able to statically link everything [16:11] it's a *kernel module* [16:11] poop [16:12] the userspace tools will be easy enough to build, I think [16:12] but they're useless without kernel support [16:12] whats the new movie out, about the haunted stuff? [16:13] i completely forgot that ipf is a kernel module >.<; [16:13] tomorrow [16:13] I'm so stupid about kernel programming, I can't even figure out why a file that has "#include " is failing on all the MODULE_PARAM(), MODULE_AUTHOR(), etc. macro expansions [16:14] lol [16:14] ahh. paranomal activity [16:15] if you look in /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h, you see definitions for all those macros... [16:16] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] eddief (n=eddie@pool-68-161-209-154.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:17] Urchlay, you'd have to diff it with an older module.h to see if the defs changed (which is probably the case) [16:17] hey nix_chix0r :) [16:18] hi Necos [16:18] y0 nix_chix0r [16:18] Is there any way to tell slackpkg to temporarily use another mirror without editing /etc/slackpkg/mirrors? [16:18] sup fire|bird [16:19] nix_chix0r: it's snowing, make it stop. :P [16:19] actually I think that stuff is skipped because CONFIG_MODULE isn't being defined (because linux/config.h no longer exists. What do you include these days to get all the CONF_whatever stuff?) [16:19] fire|bird: walk over to ye olde weather controller and turn it off. :P [16:19] NaCl: I don't think there is. [16:19] fire|bird, i'm sure it's on it's way here, raining quite heavily [16:19] If only I could NaCl. :) [16:20] nix_chix0r: It started here last night as rain, and now it's snow. :) [16:20] BP{k}: ok, just curious. Thanks. [16:20] howdy BP{k} [16:20] fire|bird: howdy, how goes? :) [16:20] australia is experiencing crazy heat right now lucky folks [16:20] BP{k}: goes great, thank you. yourself? [16:20] nix_chix0r: That's it, we're going to australia. :P [16:21] i'm down it's only a 27hr flight [16:21] haha, *only* :P [16:21] ah, linux/autoconf.h [16:21] they make non stop flights to australia from LAX [16:21] nix_chix0r: Ah, so you've already done some research. :P [16:22] now why would you bother to rename a header "config.h" to "autoconf.h"? What possible reason is there to need to do that? [16:22] well i used to work for the airlines :P, i just wouldn't want to be in the coach ring on that flight [16:22] hi, how can i change x-window from kde to xface, i have installed xface [16:22] i am talking about some config file, not by clicking [16:22] nix_chix0r: Let me guess, you're planning a getaway and skipping out on hubby, right? :D [16:22] fire|bird, yar [16:22] and baby [16:23] Urchlay, it's all defined in .config these days >.> [16:23] or /proc/config.gz [16:23] no, it always was defined in .config, but that never was (and still isn't) a valid file of C code [16:23] right [16:24] and the renaming of config.h to autoconf.h is retarded [16:24] looks retarded from where I sit, but I'm not a kernel dev either [16:25] yeah, see, about that... i don't thikn it matters... it's just a really dumb naming convention [16:26] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] but changing all the linux/config.h to linux/autoconf.h doesn't fix it (doesn't even make the compile errors look different, except the "can't find linux/config.h" is no longer there) [16:29] speaking of which, i need to get me a kernel dev book, my C has gotten extremely rusty [16:29] anyway, this is the newest ipf source I can find, and it's from 2007. I can't believe development stopped... [16:30] fork it :) [16:30] the ipfilter FAQ page had a link to what looked like a newer version, but it doesn't actually exist on the ftp server (or any of the mirrors) [16:31] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.87.189) left irc: "Leaving" [16:31] omfg lol [16:31] http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781934356227/ [16:32] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-176-106.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:32] lol [16:33] that makes me cry a little inside :( [16:33] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] this is sad too, ORA hasn't published anything on kernel development since '07 [16:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:34] OK, here we go, there were 2 links, the http link actually exists [16:34] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) left irc: Connection timed out [16:34] oh, so it's not dead? [16:34] right, apparently the FTP server hasn't been updated in 2 years, but the web site has [16:35] now the kernel module builds! [16:35] eh, the userspace tools still fail: ipf_y.y:909.43-44: $$ for the midrule at $2 of `ipaddr' has no declared type [16:35] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:35] I don't know yacc well enough to instantly diagnose that... [16:35] >.> [16:36] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "caindo fora" [16:36] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC311E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:39] hmmm [16:40] http://www.mail-archive.com/help-bison@gnu.org/msg02159.html [16:40] hmm [16:41] damn it... [16:41] i can't find anything recent on kernel development [16:42] yeah, basically if you ask anyone who really knows, the answer is always "read the kernel mailing list" [16:42] anyone who uses fedora, redhat and ubunti shouldn't be called a system admin [16:43] jeev: Uhm..and why is that? [16:43] http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Linux-Kernel-Newbies-Book/Jon-Masters/e/9780470413975/?itm=4&usri=linux+kernel <--- hmmm [16:43] What do you propose real system admins use? [16:43] slackware [16:43] Uh huh [16:43] http://search.barnesandnoble.com/TCP-IP-Architecture-Design-and-Implementation-in-Linux/Sameer-Seth/e/9780470147733/?itm=10&usri=linux+kernel <--- geez, 80$?! [16:44] Go try to install Zimbra..or Zenoss or any other software that needs an enterprise distro in Slackware [16:44] See how easy it is [16:44] it isn't :) [16:44] That's exactly the point [16:45] i'd rather use windows than fedora anyway [16:45] Slackware isn't a server or enterprise distro..It has long support times, but thats about it. [16:45] redhat EL isn't that bad... fedora is useful, but i wouldn't use it enterprise, and ubuntu, wtf? [16:45] long support times? [16:45] Yeah..Pat supports older versions of Slackware for a while [16:46] Well..releases security patches [16:46] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:46] fredoslack: \o/ salut! [16:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [16:47] ah, very true straterra [16:47] hii deco =) [16:47] the mi french mi english [16:47] :p [16:47] fredoslack: lol yeah [16:48] beginning linux programming is from '07 >.<; [16:49] the old version of that book from 2000 or so, was really helpful to me when I first got it [16:50] yeah, i bet... but need to find a print reference since i'm not always near a comp [16:50] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [16:51] straterra: exactly. pat releases security patches, but that's not what other distros consider 'lts' [16:51] Right [16:51] and actually, you could use slack in the enterprise with things like alien [16:51] ananke: apparantly..we aren't real sys admins [16:51] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:52] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:52] Necos: that would be a nightmare [16:54] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [16:55] possibly [16:55] and then again, we do have rpm support [16:55] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Client Quit [16:55] "support" is probably overstating it [16:56] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [16:56] having rpm installed is a long shot from 'support' [16:56] slackware's serves a nice niche and enterprise servers is not it [16:56] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.93.176) left irc: "Leaving." [16:56] it can be done, that's all i'm saying... it'll be a mountain of work tho... [16:57] it is great on the desktop of someone who likes to tinker and roll up his sleeves on a hobby machine [16:57] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] quick help guys... 192.168.123.0/24 allows connection from any class c [16:58] how can I say to allow from everywhere? [16:58] i mean, schools are considered "enterprise-like", and yeah, slackware powers all of our servers, aside from our win2k3 domain server [16:58] I'm not familiar with the /X [16:59] google for cidr [16:59] it was a bitch to get it setup, but yeah... [17:00] hm, what the heck is libelf for? [17:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:00] libelf is elf executable support (i'm guessing for things like dlopen) [17:01] not dlopen [17:01] 255.255.255.0 mask == /24 [17:01] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:01] Kaapa: 0.0.0.0/0 [17:01] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] I mean I can see what libelf is for in general, I just don't get why ipf wants to use it for anything [17:02] filtering packets really doesn't have much to do with reading/modifying/creating elf executables... [17:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:04] sidh (n=tinom@intellitec2.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] greetings gentlemen [17:06] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [17:07] i've installed rxvt-unicode, but when i ssh a FreeBSD server running screen , and i type screen -r , i get this message "Cannot find termcap entry for 'rxvt-unicode'.", so i added an entry in /etc/termcap, ran cap_mkdb, exit and ssh again , but still the problem, does someone know how to fix that ? [17:08] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [17:08] sidh: find out if there's an option to force it to use terminfo insteaed of termcap. Don't ask me what it is (I've never once touched rxvt-unicode), but termcap is considered an obsolete fallback mechanism, and terminfo is much preferred (at least in the Linux world) [17:08] try to set a different term [17:08] TERM=screen or TERM=xterm, mayhaps [17:09] you mean in my path ? [17:09] or you can start screen with it, using -T [17:09] test34_ (n=test34@c-69-244-245-20.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] change the term variable to rxvt [17:10] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:10] sidh: where did you get the rxvt-unicode from? [17:10] alienBOB: slackbuild.org [17:10] If it is my package, there is a terminfo file in the doc directory that you can install [17:11] except for xmonad (where i use cabal install) everything on my new slackware comes from the sets or the slackbuild.org [17:12] I betcha that terminfo file needs to be installed on the freebsd host [17:12] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:13] lol, slackware is not enterprise? i have at least 30 slackware servers, wich include dns servers, iptv encoders, routers, mail servers, xen virtualization servers, asterisk voip servers, radius servers, bacula backup servers, and so on and on [17:13] i love you, fluxbox [17:14] and even this laptop i have on my stomach while typing here, is ... you guessed right, SLACKWARE [17:14] Action: chee guessed right ^^ [17:14] when i vi /etc/termcap , the first line is quite clear [17:15] i want to be mario's friend [17:15] haha :) [17:15] mancha: that..doesn't make it an enterprise distro [17:15] err, mario [17:15] seriously i couldnt bare not to burst while reading that shit people wrote earlier :/ [17:15] mario, is the laptop sitting on your stomach as you stand up or sit down?!?!?!!? [17:16] haha [17:16] actually I kinda wonder what the definition of "enterprise" is when it's used in that context... nobody's ever been able to explain it clearly to me [17:16] I could use Playstation 2's to do all that..doesn't make the Playstation 2 an enterprise solution [17:16] straterra: thanks [17:16] actualy im in bed, im exhausted, worked whole day :/ [17:16] oh thought your stomach was so big [17:16] dammit. i saw a junko laptop on newegg for like 130 bucks, i get on there on payday and now i cant find it anymore [17:16] playstation is hardware if i remember correctly, and slackware is software, im not following, sorry :/ [17:17] jeev [17:17] chee chee [17:17] where do i recognise your username from [17:17] maybe you were running redhat and i got into your server and added the username jeev [17:17] or fedora or u bunti [17:18] no, that's never happened [17:18] straterra, well i dont know what exactly 'enterprise' means in this context [17:18] although, i was once running fedora [17:18] and ubuntu! [17:19] and redhat! [17:19] nasty [17:19] i was surprised to remember that i had run all of those at one time [17:19] i guess you mean stuff like windows, wich is indeed enterprise, because its monetary driven software [17:19] as i cast my mind back further [17:19] jeff___ (n=jeff@bzq-79-180-110-65.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] efnet ? [17:20] mario: Slackware isn't designed for extended software support, enterprise management or anything of the such. [17:20] Slackware exists because Pat needed a distro..wasn't happy with the current ones..and he just happens to publish it to everyone else [17:20] as i told one of my coworkers other day, i dont want year old support, because i preffer to try new stuff from time to time [17:20] alienBOB: i don't have anything related to urxvt in /usr/share/doc [17:20] Enterprise support and usage is NOT the target of Slackware [17:21] that came out wrong, i meant... 10 year old distro wich is still being supported is a waste of hardware [17:21] sidh: I was referring to my own rxvt-unicode package, not the script from slackbuilds.org [17:21] mario: 10 year old distros arent supported.. [17:21] But there is a reason why lots of products only support distros like RHEL [17:22] The major versions of the software doesn't drastically change..you can actually write software against it and have confidence it will compile and run [17:22] sure, thats the reason why i had to install one centos in datacenter, but i look at it with discust ;/ [17:22] alienBOB: where is your package ? linuxpackages ? [17:22] NO [17:22] Me and linuxpackages.net do not mix [17:22] jeev, i probably got you mixed up with some other four letter j user [17:22] i doubt this faint feeling of recognition will abandon me, though [17:22] ok [17:22] sidh: If you can not find my slackbuilds repository you were not meant to find it [17:23] centos is a solid distrib, why the hate? it brings the benefits of rhel without the pricetag [17:23] i was on efnet sometime ago [17:23] alienBOB: where is your package ? <----- Classic. [17:23] straterra, look, to cut it short, everything that i make run on slackware it runs for years if needed, properly configured servers stay good, and ocasionaly patches make it run very nice [17:23] ew centos too [17:23] mario: Ok..go try to run Zimbra on Slackware [17:23] no thanks [17:24] And why is that? [17:24] thats useless garbageware imo [17:24] i don't know...i don't see why liking slackware means you have to automatically hate everything else. did i just miss a memo? [17:24] Uhm..its postfix and some other software [17:24] Action: sidh apologizes to be too Classic [17:24] mancha: Thats how its always been here [17:24] if you want fucking exchange just buy microsoft [17:24] yes, mancha [17:24] Zimbra isn't exchange [17:24] exchange is exchange [17:24] I'd go for Kolab - that is running well on Slackware [17:24] didn't you read Mail when you first installed slackware? [17:24] is it not exchange ? [17:24] Correct, it is not exchange [17:25] Otherwise it's name would be..well..Exchange [17:25] Congratulations for making it this far! You now have to hate everything else. [17:25] look, one of my buddies made me give him a server for debian + zimbra [17:25] and from what i remember that shit dont run on debian either [17:25] Your point? [17:25] because he ended up killing it, it used so much IO on the server that he decided to shut it off [17:25] well [17:25] I never said debian was an enterprise distro either [17:25] if it doesnt run on any distros, what is the point ? [17:25] is it not java ? [17:26] It does run on distros. It runs on ENTERPRISE distros [17:26] enterprise lol [17:26] You can run an enterprise on Slackware straterra - but the business has to be convinced that there are rules to it [17:26] sorry, i kinda hate enterprise :/ [17:26] wha does enterprise mean exactly [17:26] alienBOB: The point isn't that you can't. You can do damn near anything with enough time/effort [17:26] But Slackware isn't aimed at being an enterprise supported distro [17:26] straterra: bugger off with enterprise distros. [17:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [17:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Client Quit [17:27] heh [17:27] only thing ever i couldnt make run on slackware was stupidass motorola canopy prizm, application written in java, that doesnt run on anything but rhel, shit is just badly coded [17:27] red hat + suse? [17:27] mario: or..coded for slightly older libraries [17:27] actualy, my point is, if shit is compiled like crap that doesnt mean its enterprise label worthy [17:27] i can remove screws with a pencil, some superglue and some mad mcgyver skills but i prefer to use a screwdriver [17:27] mancha: exactly [17:27] thats not it, tried going back [17:28] resolved all dependancies [17:28] but shit is sloppy put together [17:28] mario: unless you were running the exact same of everything..then its not the environment it was developed for [17:28] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] wasnt linux supposed to be compatible among distros ? [17:29] Linux is a kernel..nothing more [17:29] i mean sure, they can run on redhat only if they want to, im not judging [17:29] no, thats why linux and, say bsd, are different [17:29] err, that came out wrong, i meant distros should be compatible [17:29] linux is a kernel, not a fully functioning environment of apps [17:29] mario: whos gonna enforce that? [17:29] to cut my monologue short, if there were no slackware id be running bsd [17:29] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.25.79) joined ##slackware. [17:30] straterra common sense ? [17:30] you can be sarcastic now i dont mind :p [17:30] just look at the birth of slackware, isn't the story that it forked cause pat's patch requests kept getting flushed down theshitter? [17:30] all the enterprise (or so called) distros that i have installed i did it with discust, and i wished i was installing windows instead [17:30] thats the opposite of convergence to compatibility [17:31] mario: Don't you have some coins you'd rather ram your head into? :D [17:32] haha [17:32] i guess those never get old [17:32] hahah [17:32] what's hot in the ways of nice keyboards these days? [17:33] im tired of these nasty clunky ugly things ive been loading around for years [17:33] i love the mac keyboards [17:33] something sleek [17:33] something shiny [17:33] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:33] And without page up/down keys [17:33] ? [17:33] i heard somewhere that mac makes you go gay, im unsure if its true however :) [17:34] mario, just for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823658002 [17:35] i dont want that one, i want barbie keyboard !@!! [17:35] ooh this one is nice [17:35] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823204021 [17:37] i-rocks [17:37] hahaha, you become instant i-sucks while using it ! [17:38] not sure if any of you have seen the new apple mice [17:38] im just teasing you, go ahead and buy whatever ;p [17:38] ananke: I have [17:38] Along with the newer MBP touch pad [17:38] very interesting concept: the mouse has no visible buttons, but you can perform various clicks along with scrolling [17:38] The one where you click the actual pad area..and the pad area is like 3 square feet [17:38] yep [17:39] I rather dislike em [17:39] haven't used those pads yet, and we got our first mouse today [17:39] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166001203.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:39] Those pads remind me of that touch screen blackberry [17:39] yeah mac hardware is getting too....elite...it's all 'touch the magic stone' [17:40] dartmouth: where have you been for the last 20 years? [17:40] ahh, cpunches at his best [17:40] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] Apple isn't doing anything different than their usual MO [17:40] untill instead of touching magic stones you start touching some guys nads :x [17:40] ananke: +1 [17:40] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:40] mario: you have a curious obsession with sexuality [17:41] haha no [17:41] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] Looks like mario is heading down the cpunches/jeev/Zordrak path [17:41] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] s/Zordrak/Look-at-me-I-Like-Intel-virtualization-technology! 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[17:47] i think I just fixed my t key [17:47] lovely [17:48] so i changed the default xterm xbm with one i found on the intartubes, looked nice in gimp but on my taskbar it looks like a little turd [17:49] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:49] needless to say, we've issued an APB on a nice xbm [17:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:54] straterra, dont talk about paths, you're just a lingering cock sucker who only responds to me. nothing else, you give less than i do in this channel and i hardly give shit [17:55] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:59] that was like a poetry class recital at a school for gifted [18:00] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] anyone know how to get the tty to output to an external monitor? my laptop screen is broken so I'm using it as a desktop and I'd like to be able to have output to my working monitor without using X [18:03] the SVGA output should work, you may have to do a "function-key" sequence to switch output modes [18:03] wollw: press whatever key combination toggles your displays [18:03] fn-f8 on dell machines for example [18:03] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-111.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:04] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.98.224) joined ##slackware. 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[18:19] i just complied smplayer 0.6.8 using a todays mplayer svn checkout and when try to play a video the navigation buttons and the scroll bar of the video never activate. theyre just grayed out. anyone know what might be the problem? [18:19] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-131-20.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:20] sahko, why not use the precompiled binary [18:20] what binary? you mean the Slackware MPlayer? [18:20] sahko, or the evergreen "vlc player" [18:21] tux_boy: ok.so you dont know. [18:22] sahko, i compiled vlc player on my box and the buttons werent gray when I opened any file [18:23] i dont care. i dont like vlc. and didnt ask about it. [18:24] sahko, all right [18:25] incognitus (n=neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: "Leaving" [18:25] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:28] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. 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[19:03] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.91) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] abcde is pretty awesome though [19:05] Necos: abcde -o flac ftw!!! ;) [19:05] i have it set to output flac/ogg/mp3 [19:05] i use the ogg rips on my rockbox'd sansa [19:05] cool [19:06] flac rips in audacious (while i'm at work), and mp3 for any dinks that use ipods [19:06] I borked my rockbox'd sansa [19:06] how'd ya do that? [19:06] I ran the wrong option on it which formatted it to ext3. :/ [19:07] It won't even start now. [19:07] fire|bird: LOL!!!!! [19:08] ny3aH (n=geg@95.71.114.135) left irc: "Óõîæó ÿ îò âàñ (xchat 2.4.5 èëè ñòàðøå)" [19:08] you know you can still fix that, right? [19:08] bad fire|bird [19:08] I've tried various things, so, how? :P [19:08] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:09] the pc won't even detect it. [19:09] start it in diagnostic mode, make a file called SANSA.FMT and it'll format the ext3 partition [19:09] which model do you have an e-series? [19:10] c240 [19:10] v1 [19:10] shit [19:10] thrice is alive [19:10] oh, i forgot how to get those in to diags mode [19:10] :) but, it's on the sandisk forums [19:10] Necos: It won't even boot to that. :P [19:10] yeah, of course thrice` is alive... i haven't killed him yet :) [19:11] yes jeev, though having your mother sit on me did almost take me out [19:11] lol [19:11] Unknown command: SHITLIST [19:11] haha [19:11] har har thrice`. [19:11] corsair ssd, 100+ year life expectancy [19:11] 2 year wararnty [19:11] how cute [19:12] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:12] Necos: you mean this one? [19:12] >.> [19:12] -phoenix^:##slackware- jeev added to phoenix^'s shitlist [19:12] lol [19:13] huh [19:13] LOL [19:13] so you learned how to notice a channel [19:13] that's just funny :) [19:14] and lame [19:14] Necos: no, the best part, 18:12 [shitlisted] [19:14] you know what the funnier thing is/ [19:14] wow... this is the worst help you could get from docs: [19:14] # [19:14] Using this information, start writing your own simple boot loader and kernel. Try and get the processor into 32 bit protected mode, and write Hello World to the Video Memory. [19:14] usually he's talking to me and he used to be in my ignore list but he kept changing nicks [19:14] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:14] funnier, wow, nice vocabulary. [19:15] web_knows (n=riba@189-18-92-84.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:15] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [19:15] Necos: Well, get started on that now. [19:15] what's wrong with the word funnier ? [19:15] ooks funny [19:15] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-69.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] l [19:15] i learned Win32 ASM, and I _HATED_ it... why the fuck would i want to write my own boot loader and kernel? i just want to learn how to write kernel code? :P [19:16] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [19:16] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-212-249.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] it does recommend reading "Understanding the Linux Kernel" by ORA, but that's about the only good stuff i've seen so far... [19:16] http://kernelnewbies.org/CompleteNewbiesClickHere [19:17] i was looking at the website because of this: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Linux-Kernel-Newbies-Book/Jon-Masters/e/9780470413975/?itm=4&usri=linux+kernel [19:17] ....... [19:17] ... [19:18] comes out in 2 weeks [19:18] pink hardcover? [19:18] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [19:19] ? [19:19] 4:20 in California!!!! [19:20] dchmelik: \o/!!! [19:20] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:20] yes, it sure is >.> [19:20] >.> [19:20] <.< [19:20] 'cept i don't smoke pot, so it's useless :P [19:20] deco: don't copy Neco's >.>, that's his trademark. :P [19:20] nuts .. [19:20] kick [19:21] fire|bird: just like my .... :P [19:21] >.> [19:21] <.< [19:21] deco: yeah, but your .... has become an overused phrase. [19:21] \o\ [19:21] stop looking at yourself, you'll break your neck [19:21] lol [19:21] \o\ [19:21] /o/ [19:21] \o\ [19:21] /o/ [19:22] \o\ [19:22] /o/ [19:22] Action: Necos waits for slackboy [19:22] Necos: ++ [19:22] Necos: he is my friend ;-) [19:22] lol [19:22] he is a bot, he has no friends. [19:22] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.175.170) joined ##slackware. [19:22] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [19:22] what torrent client comes by default in slackware 13? [19:22] and yeah, deco, your waving side to side looks like a broken chemistry experiment :) [19:23] Necos: Nah, he's trying a new way to say lol, in italics. ;) [19:23] ktorrent, dios_mio [19:23] was that a threat [19:23] it still looks like a broken chemistry experiment :) [19:23] it broke my ball [19:23] jg71, i dont have KDE installed man [19:23] s [19:23] jg71, whats an alternative for XFCE? [19:23] i don't make threats, only promises :) [19:24] dios_mio, wise choice. go get rtorrent :) (i dont have xfce installed, i use fluxbox) [19:24] dios_mio: without kde, then there isn't one. transmission is good, from slackbuilds.org, so is deluge or qbittorrent. [19:24] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] kshh [19:24] funny peep [19:24] thanks man [19:24] winter: \o/ [19:24] Action: fire|bird stabs winter, before Necos gets the chance. [19:24] Action: deco stabs fire|bird [19:24] no one touches winter ! [19:24] bunch of nuts [19:24] You can't do that, I took your knife away. [19:24] .... [19:25] ---|====> [19:25] a knife ^^^ :P [19:25] .... [19:25] damn fire|bird, you're getting faster these days :) [19:25] there was a way to make xterms source the /etc/profile ..... [19:25] lol [19:26] on startup [19:26] doing everything to make others worse [19:26] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-69.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:26] others feel worse even [19:26] Natenom_ (n=Natenom@xdsl-87-79-61-139.netcologne.de) left irc: "Leaving" [19:26] bbl [19:26] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Necos: know if there's a way to have this sansa start from the micro sd card? :P [19:27] not offhand [19:28] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.59.129.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:28] guys, how do we use the pkg-config stuff? [19:28] ..... [19:28] i only know how to do the untar and make install thing [19:28] i'm having the worst connection troubles :( [19:29] am I even online now? [19:29] chee: No, restart and try again. :) [19:29] dios_mio: you mean installpkg ? [19:29] removepkg ? [19:29] hmmm fire|bird, have you tried this? http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/61 [19:29] upgradepkg ? [19:29] deco, yes [19:29] dios_mio: those are the commands .. [19:29] deco, does slackware have rtorrent packages? [19:29] dios_mio: i dunno [19:29] I am actually going and downloading sources from their websites.. is that how you do it? [19:30] Necos: Hmm, no I hadn't, I'll give it a shot though. It'd be great to get this one working again. [19:30] thanks [19:30] dios_mio: you find or make a slackbuild script [19:30] dios_mio: the script makes a package for you [19:30] which you install with installpkg [19:30] installpkg rtorrent.tgz ..... [19:30] deco, it compiles it anyway? [19:30] no binaries? [19:31] dios_mio: It's good practice to check slackbuilds.org first for what you want, there's a lot of stuff there, after that, making a slackbuild is a good way to install things. [19:31] dios_mio: compiles.... [19:31] fire|bird: .... [19:31] ok [19:31] deco: WHAT? [19:31] oh look!! flowing chat! [19:31] fire|bird: let me help .. [19:31] Action: chee celebrates [19:31] hi deco :3 [19:31] Necos: your turn, stab deco. [19:32] hi chee [19:32] hi fire|bird :3 [19:32] my pc chair sucks [19:32] hi chee [19:32] Action: Necos stabs deco three times for good measure [19:32] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] greetings andarius, how are you? [19:32] oh wait... [19:32] Necos: .... grow up please [19:32] greetings and salutations [19:32] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you? [19:32] Action: Necos stabs chee three times too [19:33] heya andarius [19:33] andarius: I am great, thank you. It was snowing here a little bit ago. :) [19:33] thats sweet. i wish it would snow here but not likely [19:33] Action: nyRednek takes Necos's knife and medicates him [19:33] fire|bird, even if you mess up the partition with rockbox on it, there's a 16MB diagnostic partition :P [19:34] Action: Necos wonders why nyRednek isn't just sitting back and enjoying the entertainment [19:34] Necos: Any idea if that is safe from being formatted? Hopefully that is my saving grace here. :P [19:34] yes [19:34] it is [19:34] so say i want the latest version of pidgin.. i compile it? [19:34] you can ONLY format it if it's in diags mode [19:34] dios_mio: use [19:34] Necos: phew, so there's hope. [19:34] dios_mio: yes* [19:34] Necos: i'm in a pissy mood, meaning i ge annoyed easily [19:34] dios_mio: you just modify the slackbuild script [19:35] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: "ja volto" [19:35] Necos: Hmm, that trick from that link didn't work. It powers on and all, but the PC doesn't see it and the screen is blank. :P [19:35] you have to hold it, then let it go [19:35] it'll show up tho :) [19:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:36] you being in a pissy mood means that you need to be entertained nyRednek :P [19:36] my pc chair would suck if I wasn't wearing a dressing gown [19:36] nothing sucks, because I'm wearing a dressing gown [19:36] slackware.it package site is down that sucks [19:36] use SBo [19:37] Action: chee is upset about being stabbed [19:37] lol [19:37] get used to it :) [19:37] chee: Just a flesh wound, it'll be alright. :P [19:37] :D [19:37] i need to go kick students out of the library, brb [19:37] i think my network problems may have continued to defy any software solution i threw at it [19:38] I AM JEALOUS OF NECOS [19:38] Necos: not literally, I hope. :P [19:38] Action: nyRednek treats chee's stab wound [19:38] when will slackware ever have a ubuntu style binary server? [19:38] dios_mio: hopefully, never [19:38] uhm... [19:38] you mean, a mirror? [19:38] nyRednek, that's no fun :P [19:39] Action: chee feels cared for [19:39] dios_mio: but if you want binary repositories, a few exist [19:39] don't worry chee, i'll stab you when nyRednek isn't here to protect you :) [19:39] lol [19:39] D:! [19:39] a bully! [19:39] and it *won't* be a flesh wound. :P [19:39] D:! [19:39] two ! [19:40] Action: fire|bird sends a suit of armor to chee. [19:40] use it wisely. :P [19:40] that's not gonna help :) [19:40] Necos: don't make me add penethol to your next injection [19:40] haha [19:40] Necos: are you a bouncer at a library? ;) [19:41] better get a large dose then... [19:41] Action: nyRednek hands chee a dogbite suit [19:41] no, i work at a high school, and my office is next door to the library [19:41] go grab some high school girls [19:42] if you guys don't stop bullying me [19:42] i'll ask a question in here every hour [19:42] that is ANSWERED IN SLACKBOOK! [19:42] chee: Is that a threat? :P [19:42] Action: chee threatens [19:42] I guess so [19:42] chee: I'll cron an answer of "RTFM, idiot" every hour :) [19:42] haha [19:43] haha [19:43] oh, i found se ... that happen to be yours, chee ? [19:43] The force is strong in you..but you are not a Jedi yet [19:43] i might write a random slackbook-answered-question generator [19:43] Action: chee dons his dogbite suit [19:43] chee: *hint* start referencing unpatched kernel bugs [19:44] mshade (n=mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:44] oh yeah, fire|bird... [19:44] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [19:44] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] you know, i wish i could find whoever is maintaining amsynth [19:44] did i mention my first official credit in an open source project? :) [19:44] they seem unresponsive on their sourceforge bugtrac [19:45] Necos: no, you didn't. [19:46] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] ah, i submitted udev rules for the blackberry tour to the barry project :) [19:47] since they didn't have rules for it readily available (and actually have my name in the changelog) :) [19:47] VampX (n=orlandol@190.141.36.191) left irc: [19:47] Necos: awesome. congrats. :) [19:48] oh awesome, necos :D [19:48] i had my first one of those this year, too ^^ [19:49] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [19:49] i feel proud that i'm giving to the OSS community :) [19:49] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] :)) [19:50] i felt proud too [19:50] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] and if i go now, i can see how many people have downloaded my little chunk of code ^^ [19:51] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20091001205019.GA14678%40foursquare.net&forum_name=barry-devel <--- 2009/09/16 [19:52] so now when i apply to a job, i can say i contribute to open source projects lol [19:55] Necos: Well, I suppose this is a good sign: Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0781:0720 SanDisk Corp. Sansa C200 series in recovery mode [19:55] ^_^ [19:55] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: [19:56] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] it'll show up as 2 devices tho (/dev/sxx1 and /dev/sxx2) [19:56] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [19:56] #$T)E*(G#$)(GJ#%()GJEGFDGEIR)UGJ)#$JGERGERGAERG [19:56] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [19:56] Action: chee vents frustration [19:57] the first one is the one you want (the second is the "music" partition) [19:57] needs more symbols [19:57] does anyone else in here find firefox to be the hugest hefty beast? [19:58] chee: YES [19:58] yep [19:58] do you feel like you are lugging it around, rather than using it? [19:58] it actually weighs me down [19:58] like a literally heavy thing [19:58] Seamonkey isn't bad though. [19:59] chee: yup, sure do. [19:59] what did you call that nice light build of it, that some gentleman built? [19:59] ... though I recently had a breakthrough with flash - for some reason, when I fresh-installed my main desktop box with slackware 13, all my flash issues went away [19:59] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [19:59] there are lighter alternatives to firefox, but none quite as good [19:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:00] i can't remember the name of this one, it's got the iceweasel branding [20:00] but it's lighter [20:00] brb, theming fun [20:00] Action: chee 's brain churns [20:00] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:00] churning chee's! [20:00] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] well that didn't work [20:01] :/ [20:01] rworkman: When you are around/have time, the make CFLAGS line from last night didn't seem to have an affect, same error. Also, here is a build log of it, minus the extracting of the tarball, which was so much that it wouldn't pastebin. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ugxFpU82.html [20:02] http://www.mobiado.com/index_en.htm utter gayness [20:03] Necos: Hmm, I'm not seeing it in /dev at all. [20:03] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:04] swiftweasel! [20:05] fire|bird, you're quite right about seamonkey [20:05] chee: yeah, it's nice. [20:06] swiftweasel was the one I was trying to remember [20:06] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [20:07] theres also swiftfox [20:08] chee_ (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [20:08] it's very very light [20:08] chromium is getting pretty good these days [20:08] hmm, disconnected every minute [20:08] * twenty minutes [20:08] fire|bird, hmmm [20:09] fdisk -l? [20:09] nope, that just shows my hdd partitions. [20:09] do you have vbox running? [20:09] /msh NickServ %identify iridekids [20:09] 'cause it should show up in dmesg [20:10] chee_: might want to change that pass now. [20:10] chee is almost cute [20:10] chee_: heh [20:10] Action: chee_ blushes [20:10] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Necos: Nope, VBox isn't running. [20:10] holy.....dmesg has a gazillion of those cpu threshold messages. [20:11] temp threshould [20:11] argh [20:11] threshold [20:11] i have a bad 'ls' habit [20:11] i just 'ls' everytime i'm in a folder [20:11] even if i know the contents [20:11] Necos: There's this: usb 5-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 [20:13] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] all of my computer problems just fixed themselves :3 [20:16] i think it happened when I changed my hostname to eris [20:16] Action: chee_ hails her [20:17] how long does it take for FreeNode to notice someone's no longer connected to FreeNode? [20:17] luck of the irish [20:17] are you stalking me, jonsmith1982 [20:18] depends... are you fit? [20:18] + female. [20:18] mshade, i just use chromium for now [20:18] fast. realy [20:18] really* [20:19] no, but i look pretty cute in pigtails [20:19] Deiz (n=swh@unaffiliated/deiz) joined ##slackware. [20:19] hmmm fire|bird, not sure about that one :P [20:19] Necos: that answer is unacceptable. :P [20:20] fire|bird, I ended up going further than abandoning kde for xfce [20:20] iridekids id what caught my attention [20:20] but that does mean it's connecting [20:20] i'm using .. fluxbox [20:21] make sure none of the vbox services are running [20:21] Necos: Well, they could be, I had VBox running earlier. [20:21] they might be catching the device [20:22] i had the same issue when trying to debug something on my blackberry >.> [20:22] had to shut off vmware's services [20:22] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:22] finishing up my lab writeup for class, so i'm in and out [20:23] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:25] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] Hmm, seems as though no VBox stuff is running. [20:25] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:25] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:26] Nick change: chee_ -> chee [20:26] hoorah [20:26] chee: so, you ride kids? [20:26] the other method would be to fire up your vm and try it in there (preferably a windows one for testing) [20:26] haha [20:26] you bette be a school bus driver! [20:26] :D [20:26] it took me a long time to understand why it was okay for a bus driver to rape [20:26] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-184.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:27] and then i understood your joke [20:27] :D [20:27] what do you call the calculator? [20:28] bc? [20:29] ty guax <3 [20:29] theres another one i cant remember, but bc is pure beauty [20:30] how would i use her to calculate the twelfth root of two? [20:30] with man [20:30] =P [20:30] haha :D [20:30] Necos: Well, Windows VM sort of sees it. It brings up the Wizard, it just can't install the device. :P [20:30] already there [20:30] i had preempted the answer [20:31] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166001203.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] B) [20:32] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] mmk, whos as drunk as i am? [20:32] i wish [20:32] 6 pack of Shinner Bock down [20:32] feelin niiice. [20:32] i drank a bottle of beer, but sure not enought to get drunk [20:32] miller high life ftw [20:32] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] yay for adolescent drunks [20:32] * > miller high life [20:33] was going to go to a show, but the wifey is tired because i snored too loud last night [20:33] lol fire|bird [20:33] :o [20:33] adolecent? 23 <- [20:33] beatzz: correct. she asked about it though, so i bought a 12 for $6 [20:33] sorry i'm so wishy-washy right now... class starts in about an hr :) [20:33] i just dring socially [20:33] too bad im too sociable [20:33] how long does it take to compile pidgin? [20:33] Hey all, any country fans? [20:33] Tracy Lawrence is playin right now at my bar here in San Antonio [20:33] steve earle [20:34] dios_mio: it takes longer if you look at it [20:34] dios_mio, depends on your computer [20:34] chet atkins [20:34] olllld country is what i like [20:34] brb [20:34] like Hank Sr.? [20:34] damn skippy [20:34] waylon and willie [20:34] Well theres a tear in my beer for you my friend. [20:34] Because im so lonsome I could cry [20:34] :'( [20:35] TX? [20:35] nah, ol' virginnie [20:35] :o born there in VA beach [20:35] beatzz, slackware emo? [20:35] guax: I have no idea what that means? [20:36] i know emo is some kind of rock i hate. [20:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:36] beatzz: he was saying you're getting emotional, cryin' in your beer for me [20:36] ahhh [20:36] no my friend [20:36] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:36] beatzz, google it, the truth is out there. and sometimes you got to see by yourself [20:36] there's no emo in hank williams [20:36] Hank Williams Sr. - Tear in my beer.mp3 [20:36] :D [20:36] W|GGL|T_: ping [20:36] Action: chee knows where it's at. [20:37] Hank williams Sr. - I'm so Lonesome I could cry [20:37] *.mp3* [20:37] actualy, technicaly [20:37] hank williams is almost all....emotional [20:37] Sr. at least [20:37] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Jr is just down right outlaw. [20:37] emo != emotional [20:38] chee: enlighten me? [20:38] Action: chee brings holy light inside of you [20:38] heal me! [20:38] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [20:39] why, are you emo and cut yourself ? [20:39] rk4n3: told u i was hard core [20:39] emo is like emotive [20:39] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-69-98.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [20:39] my god, dios_mio is right! [20:39] cutting isn't hard core - little 9-yr-old kids do it these days [20:40] hey rk4n3, how's it going? [20:40] hardcore is using a chainsaw. [20:40] hi fire|bird - going well :) [20:40] husqvarna [20:40] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: [20:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:40] I know this isn't #php, but is this a valid regex for removing leading whitespace? preg_replace('/^\s+/','', $input); [20:41] :o [20:41] u r leet. [20:41] v3gard: ^ [20:42] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-69-98.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [20:42] i'm totally new to regex'es, but from my understanding ^ means the start of each line, and the + after \s counts all spaces, right? [20:42] out of curiosity why would you use regex to remove leading white space when there is a php function to do it? [20:42] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-26-76.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [20:42] is there a php function? *embarrased* :) [20:42] andarius: because it takes a long time to realize all the php builtin functions :) [20:42] php.net [20:43] + = 1 or more. [20:43] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-65-63.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:43] http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.trim.php [20:43] shit conversations getton deep [20:43] Action: beatzz returns to his country music / beer / family guy [20:43] trim's not going to remove spaces between words [20:43] nice [20:43] thanks [20:43] wasn't aware of that function [20:43] jeff___ (n=jeff@bzq-79-180-110-65.red.bezeqint.net) left ##slackware. [20:44] nooper: read his question again... [20:44] oops [20:44] I just got my 10/100 hub in the mail! [20:45] hub?? [20:45] 9.95 off ebay [20:45] yah [20:45] umm, why a hub? [20:45] it's for taking base line packet dumps on a network [20:45] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:45] Necrogami (n=djnecrog@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [20:45] muuhuuhuuhaahaar :-) [20:45] OK, as long as there is a reason :) [20:45] hey macavity, how's it going? [20:46] great :-) [20:46] Action: andarius slaps macavity [20:46] I didn't think it was full moon again [20:46] about to watch Zeitgeist Addendum with some freinds [20:46] with a hub :o [20:46] andarius: now is that any way to great someone? :) [20:46] I stick it between the client's modem/terminating equipment and their border router [20:46] fire|bird: "yes" ;) [20:46] lol [20:46] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:46] fire|bird: andarius greets me that way because i am speshul :-) [20:46] fire|bird: when they arrive and call out strange things... i agree with BP{k} [20:47] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] speshul as in short bus [20:47] Action: fire|bird rests his case, lack of evidence against this greeting method. [20:47] antiwire: can i pick your brains later on on how to build open/dd wrt? [20:47] macavity: yeah, but it's easy [20:47] antiwire: i managed to hack the fon2100 [20:47] nice [20:48] I have something like 6 or 8 of those things all over our property [20:48] repeaters and WDS [20:48] just reset it 4 times and pull the powercord out of it ever time, and bam, back to version 7.0.1r2 [20:49] Just make a TTL serial cable for it out of a cellphone data cable [20:49] then the kolophonium DNS/radius hack went all by itself :-) [20:49] the pl2303 is the best cable to use [20:49] if you have a serial cable you don't need any hacks [20:49] those little fons are fun [20:49] no, but this was a 10 minutes operation, so why bother with a soldering iron :P [20:50] bah [20:50] i r solder master [20:50] id like to grap hold of a couple of fon2200s [20:50] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:50] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:50] I want the fon 2.0 [20:50] two rj45 ports + USB [20:50] they go for only 30 euro on their website.. which is a lot cheeper than a regular craped down wifi router [20:50] screw the 2200 [20:50] get the 2.0 [20:51] ok, peeps are ready to watch film.. cya in a while :-) [20:51] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:51] I think it's beer 30 [20:52] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [20:52] I was climbing all over the roof of a school today, trying to find the crappy splice job that someone did years ago [20:53] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] then, to top it off the kids see us, two dudes with phone gear and nice clothes...they are yelling "OMG FBI" [20:55] agris2 (n=agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [20:56] id worry if they call CSI [20:56] lol [20:57] id worry if they call ghostbusters [20:58] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] i wouldnt worry if they start puking their souls out. it's normal for kids of their age [20:58] Action: jg71 points to cal. [20:58] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] I don't like working at schools, all those kids running around with swine flu [20:59] not cool [20:59] indeed [21:01] Necos: dang, I thought I had it, I found a post that someone just put the firmware on the microsd card, started it, and it worked, but no such luck. :P [21:02] evening [21:02] steiger: evening [21:03] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] heh, Windows device manager sees it, just doesn't have a driver for it. [21:06] spiraliz (n=spiraliz@136.81-167-26.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:08] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [21:08] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] spiraliz (n=spiraliz@136.81-167-26.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] fire|bird, drivers are at slackware.com [21:11] or kernel.org if you're l33t [21:12] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] edman007: lol, I wish that would fix it. My mp3 player is borked. :/ [21:15] unbork it [21:16] I'm trying. [21:16] It isn't working. [21:16] try harder [21:18] hacfed (n=fed@host86-131-171-154.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:19] spiraliz (n=spiraliz@136.81-167-26.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] if they had started MIDI frequencies from an octave higher, they could have gotten in the whole average human range [21:22] fools! [21:22] edman007: I've done everything I can think of, lsusb see's it, but it doesn't show in /dev, Windows sees it, but has no driver. [21:22] what does dmesg say? [21:22] also, try the rear usb ports [21:23] tried googling its pci-id? [21:23] he said put it in the rear :o [21:23] edman007: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/LAcNtj88.html [21:23] strange [21:23] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] lsusb: Bus 005 Device 010: ID 0781:0720 SanDisk Corp. Sansa C200 series in recovery mode [21:24] y0 Rat409 [21:24] hey fire|bird . get seamonkey built? [21:24] fire|bird: sansa rocks [21:25] brb coffee's done brewing [21:25] Rat409: No, not yet, rworkman helped me out some last night, I gave him the pastebin link earlier for it, but he's not around. It will eventually work though. :) [21:26] steiger: agreed, but atm, this sansa IS a rock. :/ [21:26] or paper weight, however you want to look at it. [21:26] fire|bird: I forgot to grab the source :/ [21:26] fire|bird: no mounting? [21:27] I do know that the plugin path patch isn't needed - it looks in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins by default [21:27] steiger: nope, seen, but doesn't have anything in /dev, etc. [21:27] i see [21:27] rworkman: yeah, I noticed that too, but there's still something up with ldappr.h not being seen. [21:28] fire|bird, stock kernel? [21:28] and what about hal? what does it say about the device? [21:28] fire|bird: self compiled kernel? [21:28] hm [21:28] fire|bird, read this thread, from misha1 ? http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=e200&thread.id=4865&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 [21:29] edman007: custom, I still have the stock around, and am going to try that in a bit. [21:29] fire|bird: you probably forgot to compile something [21:29] maybe SCSI Storage or something like that [21:29] fire|bird, there are a lot of different drivers in the kernel for usb mass storage, its not just one [21:30] jonsmith1982: Hmm, no, I hadn't come across that post, in my searches, it looks interesting though, thanks. [21:30] edman007: yeah, which is why I'm going to try stock and see if that makes a difference, at all. [21:32] fire|bird, get to work [21:32] i'm not going to wait all day [21:32] lol [21:34] heh, Ubuntu VM doesn't see it either. brb [21:34] MJSthat (n=mike@adsl-209-30-229-223.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] MJSthat (n=mike@adsl-209-30-229-223.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [21:35] but the vm is not physically connected to it... [21:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:37] fire|bird: soooooooO? [21:37] we're all excited [21:37] leptom (i=1000@84.125.167.67.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] good night [21:38] steiger: same thing happening, seen but nothing in /dev, etc. :/ [21:38] edman007: ^^ [21:39] VampX (n=orlandol@190.107.162.85) joined ##slackware. [21:39] fire|bird, what driver does hal say is bound to it? [21:39] its bricked. needs fixing [21:40] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:40] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:41] notice lsusb "in Recovery Mode" [21:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:41] jonsmith1982: yeah, because that's how I'm starting it, which is suppose to present a 16MB recovery partition. [21:43] edman007: How do I check that? [21:43] using hal-device | grep Sansa, I get info.product = 'Sansa C200 series in recovery mode' (string) and usb_device.product = 'Sansa C200 series in recovery mode' (string) [21:44] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.175.170) left irc: "Leaving" [21:45] fire|bird, grep -n50 [21:45] and just pastebin that [21:45] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [21:45] should give you a big block of info for it [21:45] edman007: ok, I'll do that, here's from hal-device: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/RUDA5R21.html [21:47] jrt05 (n=jason@pool-71-186-3-208.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150142220.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:48] fire|bird, yea, you should see something in there about it being mass storage, the kernel driver is not hooking into it, might be able to flash the firmware or something depending on the device, but i don't think you have access to that type of thing ;) [21:48] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.74.51) joined ##slackware. [21:48] edman007: I tried a trick I had found on a forum of putting the firmware on the microsd card and then turning the player on, but that didn't work for me, but did for the person on the forum I found this trick on. [21:49] I wrote a simple script to generate and install latest packages [21:49] of alsa [21:49] http://gist.github.com/219198 [21:49] fire|bird, could be fried... [21:49] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] more or less download the sources, generate packages with src2pkg and install it [21:50] edman007: fwiw, how this occurred is from about a month back, I formatted it (it was acting weird) and I accidentally formatted it to ext3, when all it should be is fat. :/ [21:50] sidh (n=tinom@intellitec2.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:50] sidh (n=tinom@intellitec2.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] ohhhh.... [21:51] probably needs a special bootloader in the fat partition [21:51] something outside of the fat filesystem, and it probably stores firmware there [21:52] One of the firmware files is pribootLoader.rom [21:52] the mfr must have some diagnostic utils or firmware,etc. [21:52] try putting the firmware at either the 0 byte mark or the 512 byte mark [21:53] I would, if I knew how. :/ [21:53] dd if=pribootLoader.rom seek=512 of=/dev/sdX [21:53] where sdX is the flash chip [21:53] Ah, ok. Thanks. I'll give that a shot, can't get any worse than it already is. [21:54] and if that fails try 0 too [21:54] unless it starts on fire. :P [21:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:54] but my guess is it may have had a partition table that skipped the MBR and put FAT right after the firmware [21:55] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] err, well the firmware would be right after the MBR, that would be easy to work with... [21:56] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-26-76.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:56] irresponse (n=Tenebros@201-75-49-65-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:56] irresponse (n=Tenebros@201-75-49-65-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:57] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] edman007: any certain spot the firmware.mi4 should go? [21:58] ohh, its separate? what is the size of each file? [21:59] firmware.pi4 = 2.9 MB, Font.fnt = 773 kb, and pribootLoader.rom = 137.7 kb [22:01] ohh... [22:02] firmware and font go in the FAT FS, i don't know about the bootloader, but that does not look like a name it can autodetect [22:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:04] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [22:04] heh, I guess I don't even have to put it into recovery mode, it automatically goes there. :P [22:04] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] anyone configured slackwre 13.0 or earlier version for dvb-t chipset qt1010, module em28xx, device usb dvbt kworld 380ur (kind of 355u)? [22:09] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-131-20.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:10] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [22:11] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:11] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:12] agris2, trying to make a black hole or cast a curse? [22:12] sorry? :) no [22:13] agris2: you will more than likely need firmware. you may want to check out linuxtv.org [22:13] sidh (n=tinom@intellitec2.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:13] sidh (n=tinom@intellitec2.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] just curious if any has proper fw and src for module. somehow it works on ubuntu, but i can't find it out why it doesn't on slackware [22:13] agris2, yea, all the dvb stuff needs firmware ;) [22:14] XGizzmo, i've tried many sources, even one you mentioned [22:14] well, it's hard to find fw [22:14] agris2, those chips don't have source for the firmware, but its not considered a "binary blob" because the blob does not run in your kernel [22:14] ubuntu downloads it when it detects it [22:15] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:15] actually i did configured it on 12.2 year ago when there was original sources available. now they are on rework because that orig guy f*cked everyone up and closed projec [22:15] t [22:15] so, any source works now [22:15] at least all i found [22:15] anyways, they need the firmware because the hardware people are too cheap to splurge for a $0.05 rom on their $100 board [22:16] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Client Quit [22:18] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:19] and btw, testing kernel 2.6.30.5 in -current worked well for module make, at least, that module worked and found hw properly in dmesg after some modification, but fw somehow disapeared from view and no dvb devices are made in /dev/ :( [22:20] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] did you download and install the firmware [22:20] ? [22:20] or am i missing something [22:20] jhw (n=jhw@p548F4572.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:21] you have to download and install the firmware before the kernel module is loaded [22:21] edman007, i tried all firmwares for all chipsets, any worked [22:21] pastebin the dmesg output [22:22] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [22:23] hm, not available. but when device was recognised, it instead of /dev/dvb/* made /dev/video0 like for analog videoforlinux2, even that one was disabled in kernel and module source :/ [22:23] VampX (n=orlandol@190.107.162.85) left irc: [22:23] Action: edman007 leaves [22:24] nigt [22:24] *night [22:24] kind of (after research) that one was ok, just there was not the part for creating dvb devices [22:24] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [22:24] edman007, c u :) [22:24] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:25] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8B449.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.92.100) joined ##slackware. [22:28] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[22:49] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:50] nnyby (n=nik@c-98-247-232-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:51] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:55] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:57] Can I compile kde 4.3.2 with slackware 13? [22:57] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:57] Or is mandatory use current? [22:58] thats weird [22:58] I had to logout of kde to get adobe reader firefox plugin to work [22:59] ruben23 (n=AGENT@122.55.48.243) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:59] good night [23:00] ruben23 (n=AGENT@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [23:01] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:02] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:04] where to i go to set color depth for my console? [23:06] ruben23 (n=AGENT@122.55.48.243) left ##slackware. [23:09] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Heya,slackers... How's everyone? [23:11] y0 MLanden, how's it going? [23:11] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "liloconfig" [23:12] good thanks fire|bird [23:14] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] pretty quiet in here tonight... I guess everyone's at Halloween parties [23:19] yeah,it is pretty quiet [23:19] retsudo_ (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:20] danc3: it's halloween tonight ? [23:20] retsudo_ (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:20] well, no, but a lot of parties tonight in preparation [23:20] danc3: oh [23:21] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) left irc: "Leaving" [23:21] damn i really want to learn how to write slackbuild scripts but the wiki is down .. :( [23:21] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [23:22] egregor (n=luciano@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [23:23] Action: chee wiggles his lips with anticipation [23:24] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] Action: chee teaches deco to win friends and influence his ankles [23:27] agris2 (n=agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:27] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:27] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] chee: O_~ [23:31] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.73.94) joined ##slackware. [23:31] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] deco: http://slackbuilds.org/guidelines/ has some information and of course http://slackbuilds.org/template.SlackBuild [23:31] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.189) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:37] BP{k}: thanks i'll read that :) [23:38] eveneing [23:38] eveneneinge, mrselfpwn [23:38] Drone4four (n=drone4fo@CPE001e58060588-CM001cea644aca.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:38] Evenin', mrselfpwn [23:40] well..come Sunday I'll be chasing little kids around with a gas chainsaw...minus the chain [23:41] even the parents flipout..it's awesome [23:41] heh [23:41] sounds like a real killer-diller plan,antiwire...:D [23:43] MLanden: chee aye [23:44] jrt05 (n=jason@pool-71-186-3-208.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:44] you know, dispite all the movies halloween would be a great time to get into some "real" mischief. [23:45] antiwire: haunted house? community haunted event? [23:45] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:45] like, giving out slack dvds in place of candy. [23:45] yeah right. I'll chase after anyone who comes into the yard [23:45] they crap their pants when I run out of a dark corner with a chainsaw [23:46] lol [23:46] XD [23:46] I set it all up with a bowl of candy and an open gate [23:46] they never see it coming [23:48] haha, i might give out copies of the slackbook [23:48] tomorrow [23:49] the trick is to keep the chainsaw warmed up. run it for a bit so it stars easily [23:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.152) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:49] and slack dvds [23:49] that's a great idea [23:49] what's a 5 year old kid gonna do with a slack dvd? [23:49] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] throw it at a moving car [23:49] that's what he'll do [23:50] probably [23:50] we all know what he'd do [23:50] we were all there at some point [23:50] at five [23:50] i don't know what I would do [23:50] ok how about at 10? [23:50] b0tnet (i=1000@c-24-18-175-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] well, at 10 i had already written some programs in BASIC and so on [23:51] so i'd probably be minded enough to try and work out what it was [23:51] oh hai, stupid question: anything needed to be done to get slack 13 to auto-update for daylight savings time? [23:51] then you're one out of a hundred [23:51] i'd probably even put it into my computer and install it and erase all of my dad's work stuff [23:51] My Dad finally made my brother and I get real jobs when he caught us destroying CD-Rs by putting them on a dremel and spinning them up to 10k [23:51] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-184.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [23:51] haha, antiwire [23:52] I'll never forget that day. He was amazed and pissed all at the same time [23:53] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:53] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [23:53] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] okay then...thank you [23:54] b0tnet (i=1000@c-24-18-175-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:54] no prob idiot... [23:56] islamux (n=islamux@82.114.184.43) joined ##slackware. [23:56] heviarti (n=heviarti@70.56.203.136) joined ##slackware. [23:56] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:56] so anyone here a chemistry nut? [23:57] brb [23:57] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:57] what kind of chemistry? [23:58] antiwire: as in I have fifty pounds of what may or may not be salt... [23:58] and since i am without slugs, I need a good test for NaCl. [23:58] that's quite a large amount of any substance to have and not quite know what it is [23:58] hehe, yup [23:58] maybe it's cocaine [23:59] antiwire: I have gallons of potentially dangerous chemicals I need to test [23:59] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) joined ##slackware. [23:59] danc3: ugh, flashback. [23:59] lick them [23:59] bad bad [23:59] yeah.... no [23:59] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackboot/mini/13.0/ <--- is there no 13.0 stable ? or can you use the same one ? [00:00] --- Sat Oct 31 2009