[00:07] rtcg (~justdizgu@unaffiliated/rtcg) joined ##slackware. [00:07] Is there a slackware package browser out there on the web anywhere? The one on slackware.com has been broken for ages. [00:08] I'm looking to see what packages are related to php. I think I'm looking for the pecl development tools. [00:09] rtcg: try this: http://slackware.osuosl.org/ [00:09] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.134.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:12] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [00:13] hee hee.. the manual package browser. :) Alright. thanks. [00:14] I think it is the PHP --enable-sigchild compile flag but. I'm checking my PHP installation.. oh heck.. I'll just look at the slackbuild. [00:15] yup... [00:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo [00:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [00:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:20] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:22] A very useful link - http://kai.mactane.org/blog/2009/05/11/workaround-for-pearpecl-failure-with-message-error-phpize-failed/ [00:22] rtcg (justdizgu@unaffiliated/rtcg) left ##slackware. [00:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:26] ivo_ (~ivo@f048000165.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:31] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:32] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-42-182.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:17] Making a bash script with rsync and I dont want it to alert me if no files were transferd [01:17] i.e. different degrees of "success" [01:19] redtricycle: read the man page for rsync& all the exit codes that it has are listed [01:19] i checked the exit codes [01:19] they dont have one for the one i'm interested in [01:19] namely a different degree for success [01:19] being, 1: files transfered, and 2: no files transfered [01:20] yeah, usually exit codes are 0 = success > 0 = error, exit codes sadly aren't meant for granular status [01:20] you might be able to parse the output [01:20] 22/window 2 [01:21] my ba [01:21] i asked someone once why more exit codes arent used in apps, and the answer was that if its just 1/0 the compiler can have more optimisational fun [01:21] look for a specific string if no files are transfered, i don't remember the explicit output of rsync when no files are moved& i always got stuff ot move :p [01:21] maco: that sounds like a bad answer :p [01:22] gniks: its only one bit... [01:22] the compiler doesn't care about what your program returns :p [01:22] its a full byte actually [01:22] 0-255 [01:22] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] only if you're treating it as a char [01:22] depending on the OS of course [01:22] the program could be storing it as a single bit though, right? [01:23] no, a valid exit code is 0-255 [01:23] hmm ok then [01:23] 0-255 is binary is 8 bits, or 1 byte [01:23] Well, looks like 6504 bytes are sent when nothing is transfered [01:23] GamiPhone (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-24.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [01:23] maybe if it's greater than that, then I'll trigger it [01:23] redtricycle: that might change depending on the last run& its the file manifest it was transferring [01:23] ah [01:24] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:24] output rsync.. [01:24] maco: what they told you sounds good in a very limited theory subset& but sadly has no validity when actual exit code standards are applied :p [01:24] then count the number of lines in the verbose? [01:24] gniks: fair nuff [01:24] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] if it's greater than 3, then we're transfering files [01:24] yeah? [01:24] vbatts: howdy [01:24] vbatts: hey whats up? [01:24] redtricycle: the exit code? [01:25] no [01:25] rsync -avzu SRC DEST | wc -l [01:25] and use that [01:25] sounds fair [01:25] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:25] >4 means transfering files...maybe [01:25] test it out, may work :p [01:26] nod [01:26] What's $? mean? [01:26] in bash [01:26] exit status of previous command [01:27] Awesome. [01:27] $? is fun :p [01:27] $# is number of arguments, $@ is the argument list, $0 is the name of the script [01:28] just in case you need them later :) [01:29] what's last-arg? [01:29] $!? [01:29] there is no last arg [01:29] $1 $2 and so on are the individual args [01:29] oh boo [01:29] kinda have to while loop through them [01:29] I use $! all the time on the command line [01:30] in bash [01:30] to access last arg [01:30] hmm, really? [01:30] err, the last word of the previous comand [01:30] yes [01:30] no $$#? [01:30] try it out [01:30] mmm i just tried "cat foo ; echo $!" and it gave empty [01:30] ls -la ~/bin [01:30] then ls $! [01:30] it'll expand to ls ~/bin [01:30] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:30] maybe you need a carriage return [01:31] redtricycle: not here. [01:31] erik (erik@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:31] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:31] interesting& echo $! shows nothing, but your command does work, this is intriguing [01:31] not working with ls for me [01:32] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [01:32] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [01:32] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [01:32] tried ls -la /bin .. then followed by ls $! just gives me an ls for my ~ [01:32] erik (erik@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [01:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Client Quit [01:33] maco: $! is the pid process of last job run in the background [01:33] or so my googling says [01:33] ah [01:33] Action: maco pokes tldp [01:33] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/internalvariables.html#ARGLIST [01:33] lulz, exactly where i ran to :p [01:34] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/refcards.html#AEN21682 i went for this [01:34] $_ apparently [01:34] $_ is set to the final argument of the previous command e [01:34] executed [01:34] ah yeah [01:34] excellent. need to remember that [01:34] just book mark the page, you won't remember it in the morning :p [01:34] probably true [01:35] ive been writing bash for years and never do :p [01:35] which package is scrollkeeper-config in? [01:35] grep -R scrollkeeper-config /var/log/packages/* [01:35] well guess you don't need the -R :p [01:36] how do I store output into a variable? [01:36] rsync -avzu SRC DEST | wc -l [01:36] VAR=$(command) [01:37] Ah. Crap, when I do "wc -l" [01:37] the wc -l becomes the last command [01:37] not rsync [01:37] so exit code is 0 (success) [01:37] hmmm [01:37] temp file it is, then... [01:37] backticks work too VAR=`ls` [01:37] but you cant nest backticks [01:38] nest in what way? [01:38] well you can .. but it gets a bit messy. [01:38] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:38] rsync -avzu | tee EXIT=$? | wc -l <-- try that? [01:38] and then test EXIT [01:38] i mean $EXIT [01:38] gniks: like if you wanted a command to use the output of a command that uses the output of a command [01:38] well ive never met a job `` couldn't handle :p [01:38] Hmm.. [01:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:39] VAR=`ls | wc -l` this works [01:39] $(foo $(bar)) [01:40] pretty sure that works there too& see it a lot in init scripts, or at least very similar syntax to that [01:41] apparently, i don't have it installed [01:41] anyway, bed time for me.. happy scripting and nyRednek, good luck finding your package [01:42] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:43] lancel00t (~lancel00t@96-42-14-254.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:43] thanks gniks, it's going well [01:43] I'm just using a TMPFILE...easiest way to go [01:46] Nick change: oobe -> \ [01:47] Nick change: \ -> Guest97053 [01:47] Nick change: Guest97053 -> oobe [01:47] gnrp_ (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:48] fucking dsl sucks so much for gaming [01:50] preech it jeev [01:51] gorram 512k/s upload speed and the most I ever see out of it is 56k/s [01:55] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:56] the ping sucks man [01:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. 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[02:20] Necos: thanks for reminding me about openbox/tint2. been playing with it since yesterday & I'm having fun [02:20] dealing with the config differences between it & blackbox are rather tedious, but I can already see there'll be a lot to gain from the transition [02:21] above & beyond the obvious that blackbox is simply a dead project :) [02:25] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.85.123) joined ##slackware. [02:25] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.85.123) left irc: Changing host [02:25] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [02:26] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [02:29] filsuf (~filsuf@64.134.235.237) joined ##slackware. [02:32] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:34] hallo guys ... how is that Slack 64 bit? good? [02:34] I'm torrent-ing it [02:34] I like it [02:34] it performs noticeably faster on my laptop than the 32 bit releases [02:35] no noticeable difference on my desktop [02:35] Nick change: fire|bird -> evil|bird [02:36] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [02:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:41] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: rhisa [02:42] openbox+tint2 ftw! [02:43] thanks indubitableness [02:43] I haven't used slack for like 5-6 years now [02:43] but ubuntu 64 sucks [02:44] indeed [02:44] most indeededly [02:44] it even doesn't support mp3 [02:44] like redhat too [02:44] well ... sure, we can always install it ourselves ;) [02:44] When I use ubuntu I usually use 32 bit [02:44] filsuf: did you install the restricted-extras? [02:44] ubuntu is already unstable without multilib [02:45] but that's for family members' machines [02:45] I dont know LSD` .. I just downloaded it [02:45] the latest one for PC [02:45] ubuntu is nice, everything works ... but it just gets so bloated [02:46] and even more [02:46] Mint is better for that sort of thing I've found [02:46] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:46] The codecs to play restricted media types are available as a package called "ubuntu-restricted-extras." If you're still running ubuntu try installing that package and then try to play your mp3's again [02:46] what thing LSD` ? [02:46] eh [02:46] it's just ubuntu-shiny edition [02:46] oh .. yeah indubitableness ... I know .... but before, it used to just work like that [02:46] got itself a fancy menu looks like something from KDE fedora. [02:47] indubitableness: if you get the internation DVD version though you don't have to screw around with restricted-extras to get basic stuff like video playback and mp3 support working. The SuSE-style menus are a small price to pay for that. [02:47] ah [02:48] well that's neat [02:48] the menu's are kind of neat, really [02:48] but I never use them [02:48] slackware [02:48] w00t [02:52] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:00] bacal (~default@cpe-67-49-159-206.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [03:04] bacal (~default@cpe-67-49-159-206.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:05] filsuf- (~filsuf@64.134.235.237) joined ##slackware. [03:07] my download is done! [03:07] that's impressive .... 4.xGB in just 40m [03:08] filsuf (~filsuf@64.134.235.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:09] Nick change: filsuf- -> filsuf [03:09] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:14] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-133.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:25] anyone know where i can find a video of hard disk platters spinning up and firing [06:25] i remember watching it years ago, but can't find it anywhere [06:26] some guys were spinning hard disks up and removing the spindle... so the platter fires off like a frisby [06:27] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) joined ##slackware. [06:36] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@20150152121.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:37] hmm.. just stumbled on a fun one [06:39] for anyone who's using openbox, any syntax corrections for a menu entry like this? "foo &> ~/.bar/baz.log" [06:39] the redirect is causing xml parsing issues [06:42] alphageek: &? [06:42] > too [06:43] d'oh [06:43] so obvious I missed it. thanks [06:44] =) [06:44] now to see if it actually works :) [06:45] Action: XGizzmo covers his ears. [06:46] nope [06:46] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] ='( [06:47] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:48] echo test &> /tmp/test [06:48] ^ fails :( [06:48] adrien: & and > maybe :P [06:48] yeah, too ;-) [06:48] or CDATA? [06:49] eh? [06:49] loh"]]> [06:49] log* [06:49] wtf is that? [06:50] apparently a way to put text (not xml): character data [06:50] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:50] can contain anything except ']]>' [06:50] I think CDATA tells the xml parser "don;t try and parse this shit". [06:52] parser doesn't complain, but it doesn't work either [06:52] menu code does not support redirects maybe/ [06:53] ?? [06:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433364.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:54] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [06:57] might want to ask in #openbox (or rtfs) [06:58] 's'? [06:59] source [07:01] alphageek: Have you tried obmenu? [07:01] no [07:01] & I'm not about to. menu editing is something I do so rarely I'm unwilling to waste time &/or disk space on something I'll use _once_ [07:02] unenana (~unenana@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:02] success [07:03] sh -c 'echo foo > /tmp/bar' [07:03] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79822 [07:03] alphageek: haha I was about to say make a wrapper [07:03] my bin dirs are already littered with wrappers. I'm trying to get _rid_ of some of them [07:04] unenana (~unenana@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [07:05] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:06] pete` (~user@062.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:07] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:09] Freedom (~Freedom@adsl-75-17-119-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:41] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210152045.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [07:41] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:41] i'm searching for a graphical application not a web based one. [07:42] i've tried mysqlcc but it is not updated and has some bugs. [07:42] i think mysql workbench requires a lot of gnome libraries [07:43] epapi: if you want a geek answer, i'd tell learn how to use the console but because i'm not a geek, i won't tell you that. [07:43] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [07:45] .....yes, why not....and when you have to go through multiple table many time it's a crazy job. [07:45] epapi: if you don't mind wine, navicat? [07:46] i think kde has a dedicated mysql client application. i can't find its name now. [07:47] because of i have kde base 3 i want to try if it is enough for kde required dependecies [07:47] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:47] archcezar (1000@agg60.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:48] it could be this ? http://slak.homelinux.org/show.php?pkg=31260 [07:48] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host237-225-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:48] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host237-225-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Changing host [07:48] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [07:48] archcezar (1000@abww165.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:49] or this ? http://torasql.com/ [07:49] just give 'em a try I guess [07:50] WLShafor (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:50] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [07:51] dustybin (~dustybin@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:58] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:02] Freedom (~Freedom@adsl-75-17-119-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:04] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:05] has anyone sent text messages (SMS) to a (cell)phone with their own server? [08:05] I have a server and I wonder if I could send text messages with it [08:09] adrien, we have a gsm modem that is set up to send sms messages using gammu. [08:09] and hooked up to a server. [08:09] kukukkk (~dvorak@188.24.67.151) joined ##slackware. [08:09] kukukk (~dvorak@188.24.64.56) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:10] how much doest it cost? [08:11] as much as your operator charges per an sms. [08:11] or do you mean the modem? [08:12] filsuf (~filsuf@64.134.235.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:13] no, meant the [08:13] slacker6896 (~slacker68@f0017-1-88-165-190-90.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] message [08:13] too expensive :P [08:14] MrCoffee (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:14] spectre (~kyle@41.215.96.158) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:15] there are online services too, you can look into that. don't require a modem too. [08:15] if im using gsm modem for unlimited internet.. does this mean i can send unlimited text msgs? [08:15] Nick change: kukukkk -> kukukk [08:15] no [08:15] :( [08:16] scam [08:16] you can send unlimited emails through it, but not sms's. [08:16] e.g. i dial #777 for internet.. could I dial say directly to the msg exchange? [08:17] moreover, if your modem does internet, you won't be able to send text msgs concurrently. the modem disconnects internet while sending an sms. [08:17] slava: do you dial a 7 or 10 digit #? [08:18] so you'll be better off using an internet sms service, there are a couple. [08:18] uh? [08:18] on my cell regular phone settings, there is a # for "sms exchange" or similar [08:19] is that the # you dial with your gsm modem? [08:19] cell regular/regular cell/ [08:19] sms center number is completely irrelevant to your internet access. [08:20] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426499.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:20] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:20] what protocol is used for transmitting the charactors to the sms center? [08:21] ppp ? or AT command set [08:21] i know its not ppp , using as example [08:22] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:22] filsuf (~filsuf@64.134.235.237) joined ##slackware. [08:22] what's the easiest way to get slackware authenticate to openldap? [08:24] i'm getting to a point where i would benefit from having same user ids on all my machines... and having a central authentication system (openldap) would be ideal [08:24] (more for learning purposes than anyting else really) [08:25] FriedBob (~Drinne@75-133-175-48.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:25] filsuf (~filsuf@64.134.235.237) left irc: Client Quit [08:25] FriedBob (~Drinne@75-133-175-48.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Changing host [08:25] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [08:25] AT+CMGW="+85291234567" [08:25] > A simple demo of SMS text messaging. [08:25] easy [08:26] slava_dp: yeah, looking; ;-) [08:28] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:32] looks like I can get 0.08¬ per sms [08:34] mrcarrot (~lasse@62-121-51-242-static-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [08:34] zoran119: the ONLY way thats simple(ish) is to use the samba implementation [08:34] check /etc/nsswitch.conf [08:34] look for the (brain fail) windows related thingummyjigger [08:34] i know this is very offtopic... but as here in this channel are some really skilled persons i am asking: [08:35] how do i set up a text printer in aix (outputting to a text file)? [08:35] i am in trouble... my boss wants a such and i do not know how to do it in aix [08:37] did u check out http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1000455 [08:37] toothkit: no, i did not find that one... i found another useless document [08:38] wookie^ (~taton@97-81-251-38.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:38] toothkit: thank you!!! it looks like it contains what i need [08:38] np [08:38] at least i hope it will work [08:39] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Zordrak: ok... will have a look... i'm still at a stage where i think that it would be good to have pam... i put it down to the fact that i don't know anything about pam [08:39] it meant a lot to me as my workplace is unsure... and getting the boss to have negative attitude to me is not good.... [08:39] elisboa (~elisboa@32.104.18.240) joined ##slackware. [08:39] elisboa (elisboa@32.104.18.240) left ##slackware. [08:39] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [08:40] Freedom (~Freedom@adsl-75-17-119-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:44] clavius (~James@adsl-152-55-38.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Changing host [08:44] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [08:45] Freedom (~Freedom@adsl-75-17-119-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:46] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [08:59] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:00] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:02] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:04] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:05] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.34.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:06] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:06] Master-Passeli (~joni@217.24.110.208) joined ##slackware. [09:07] mrcarrot (~lasse@62-121-51-242-static-dsl.ssp.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:09] Hi everyone [09:09] zoran119: fingers crossed for Slackware 14.0. I have made the case to Pat and he is considering it - but is making no promises at all. [09:11] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:11] theres a PAM submission at SBo , i dont think its been accepted yet though [09:12] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [09:12] its quite old too 31-Jul-2010 23:35 Linux-PAM.tar.gz [09:12] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [09:12] everything else in pending is from september [09:19] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) joined ##slackware. [09:19] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) left irc: Changing host [09:19] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:20] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [09:25] Zordrak: my educated (and well-informed) guess is that PAM will not enter the next release [09:25] sahko: no one in the SBo admin team wants to touch PAM without gloves and masks [09:25] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:30] naturally:) [09:32] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [09:34] asarch (~asarch@189.188.143.98) joined ##slackware. [09:34] arfon (~arfon@66.87.4.20) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Howdy Slackers [09:34] alienBOB: You could have left me hoping instead of making me cry :) [09:38] klein (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) joined ##slackware. [09:38] klein (klein@unaffiliated/klein) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:38] alienBOB: You'd need some sort of vaccination to touch PAM. [09:38] she's a DIIIIIIIRTY GIRL [09:39] Dominian, lol [09:39] Dominian: Unfortunately she's absolutely crucial to commercial adoption of Slack [09:40] Zordrak: I know, problem is she's like the whore in church... She cleans up good.. but the history behind her is a bit... 'naughty' [09:41] marseill1 (~marseille@218.9.124.158) joined ##slackware. [09:41] What does PAM provide that facilitates commercial adoption? [09:41] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.33.66) joined ##slackware. [09:43] does XEN works on slackware? [09:44] you mean as dom0? [09:44] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:46] Dominian: are you speaking to me? [09:47] he is [09:47] YOu said XEN [09:47] dom0 is about XEN [09:47] I just assumed you realized I was :) [09:49] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-15.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] xen works on slackware as dom0, i even made a xen.SlackBuild for slackbuilds.org, so its just a matter of time untill its approved [09:53] cool [09:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [09:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [09:55] pete` (user@062.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [09:56] admboom: centralised kerberos login [09:56] plus other methods [09:56] 'n' stuff [10:00] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:02] i did not find anything on slackbuilds.org [10:05] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [10:06] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [10:07] Lalloso (8a843664@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.132.54.100) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:07] Zordrak, I used yp for my SSO style directory authentications. although that was some time ago ~10 years so before windows discovered kerberos [10:08] even with yp/NIS its not easy.. and then you have to set up servers and transfer mechanisms just to support slack.. but with pam it would Just Work [10:09] Mowah (1000@c-d181e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:11] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:16] is author or maintainer of apache-tomcat slackbuild script here? [10:17] i would have one improvement to that script [10:19] Master-Passeli: you could always email them [10:19] yeah, might be that i have to [10:19] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [10:20] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [10:21] Zordrak: if it comforts you - I think it is inevitable that PAM ends up in Slackware at some point. Somewhere along the line, some crucial software will no longer build or work without it [10:22] nah [10:22] alienBOB: indeed. I was just hoping that the commercial adoption aspect might sway Pat a liitle [10:23] what software would meet the definition of crucial [10:23] Skywise: adduser [10:23] dang [10:24] ;) [10:24] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). [10:25] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:45] How do I install the SMART package manager? [12:46] andybiker: the what? [12:46] kpackage won't run without it [12:47] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:48] so I can't install or upgrade anything [12:48] andybiker: what's wrong with slackpkg? [12:48] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.210.190.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:48] then use slackpkg for official packages and sbopkg/slackbuilds.org for 3rd party packages [12:50] i wish I knew how! [12:50] not as hard as you think [12:51] edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to point to an official mirror of the version you're using [12:51] install sbopkg (recommended) for slackbuilds.org [12:51] both use the same basic ncurses interface [12:51] provided you install packages from sbo to begin with. [12:51] http://www.sbopkg.org [12:52] None of this is in THE BOOK [12:52] and "man slackpkg" is your friend [12:53] which book are you looking at? sbopkg may not be in it, but it works well [12:53] and if it's the book I'm thinking of, then kpackage isn't in it either [12:54] the slackbook recommends slackpkg [12:54] http://www.slackbook.org [12:56] ah yes - it talks about basic package management, but is still a little behind in some of the finer points. As soon as Alan_Hicks finishes the updated version (sometime before slackware 15) it should be good [12:56] lol [12:57] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-82-227.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:57] I still don't know what to do. [12:59] install sbopkg is useless [12:59] all install and installpkg commands are useless [12:59] you have to download sbopkg before installing it [12:59] I can't [12:59] slackpkg is already installed with the base system [12:59] why not? [13:00] what version of slackware are you using? [13:00] 13 [13:01] iirc slackpkg was in ap/ in 13.0 [13:01] ok - then if you don't have a gui try "wget http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.33.2.tar.gz" [13:01] that will fetch sbopkg [13:02] as Dominian noted, cd into the slackware/ap directory of your cd/dvd, then run "installpkg slackpkg *.t[xg]z" [13:03] alisonken1home: "(sometime before slackware 15)" you are optimistic indeed! [13:03] wait - sbopkg name needs to be changed - so use "wget http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.33.2.tar.gz sbopkg0.33.2.tgz" [13:03] wait - sbopkg name needs to be changed - so use "wget http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.33.2.tar.gz sbopkg-0.33.2.tgz" [13:04] I think it is installed [13:04] rob0: ever the optimist am I :) [13:04] anyway, note the original goal, < andybiker> kpackage ... [13:04] andybiker: what does "slackpkg " do? [13:04] I have 10 years Linux, but the big hitters Debian Gentoo and Slackware elude me with their terminology [13:04] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:05] gentoo I might agree with, but terminology in sackware? [13:05] I can't help at all since I wouldn't want a GUI package management tool, pkgtool is too much for me. But maybe I can help avoid some chasing of wild geese. [13:05] slackpkg works in console [13:05] pkgtool is easy - almost as easy as sbopkg [13:05] (actually I do use pkgtool sometimes) [13:05] I don't mind chasing wild geesses [13:06] andybiker: ok - once you install sbopkg and sync it with slackbuilds.org, you have an easy way of seeing if the smart manager is available [13:07] sync it? [13:08] once you install sbopkg - the first step is to select "Sync - Sync with the remote repository" to get the slackbuilds available to you [13:08] first item in the main menu [13:08] what menu? [13:09] sbopkg menu [13:09] eh? [13:09] what menu? [13:09] ok - basics for you [13:10] slackpkg is the front end to manage the official packages that come with slackware - used for network upgrades to official slackware packages [13:10] Rev_Willie_gone (~william@ip70-188-16-112.rn.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] unofficially - slackbuild.org (the website) maintains slackbuilds of 3rd party apps that people like to add to their slackware setup [13:10] I think i have got this. This is hard and pointless work! [13:11] Where's the documentation? [13:11] sbopkg is a front end like pkgtool, but it's used for slackbuilds.org packages [13:11] all of this is unnecessary [13:12] depends on what you define as unneccessary - kpackage is unnecessary for me since I'm not always in the KDE environment, but would like to update/install packages on my slackware system [13:12] and the cli is quicker than mouseclicks [13:12] When in KDE, you can use konsole and pkgtool [13:12] I can't type well so GUIs are my default [13:13] I suspect kpackage was made with .deb / .rpm in mind, and thus might not be wholly relevant in the Slackware world. [13:13] correct [13:14] andybiker: sbopkg is menu driven, so you don't have much typing with it [13:14] ncurses menu, not gui menu [13:14] It looks as bad a s a kernel menu [13:14] slackpkg, on the other hand, requires some typing on the cli when invoking it [13:15] considering they use the same interface - and again, bad is relative :) [13:15] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.68) joined ##slackware. [13:15] for example, I have a remote server that's tied to a serial port console - how is a gui going to help with that? [13:15] I love how people give things a 5 second chance [13:16] A big part of Slackware is done with those ncurses / semi-GUI interfaces. Perhaps Slackware is not a good fit for you, andybiker? [13:17] That's what I am trying to find out! at least the TV card works! [13:18] Not that I'm trying to push you out, just that I think you'd be happier if you can adjust your expectations. Easier to do that than to make Slackware fit those expectations. [13:18] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. [13:18] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:18] StarX (~StarX@201.87.127.7) joined ##slackware. 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[15:37] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.26.135.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:38] Freedom (~Freedom@adsl-67-120-93-48.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:40] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426499.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:41] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426499.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:44] cmair (~cmair@host205-45-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:45] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:46] samfisher (~unaffilia@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Hi. I have a webpage with a dropdown menu, and when you select an item in this menu the it loads to a page with many links. Do you know how I could copy all those links in a text file? [15:47] samfisher: save the page as a .html file on your desktop, then use a text editor to take out the bits you want [15:48] dustybin: yea, but i also have many items in the dropdown menu [15:48] and each item loads a diff page with other links [15:48] or, you could maybe use wget to get all the entries [15:48] http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.html [15:49] whoops, i mean http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/ [15:49] :) [15:49] dustybin: i tought of that but 1. it's accessible with user and pass and 2. each link goes to an .exe file (each of them could have 300 mb) [15:49] wget can use user and pass [15:50] Sam, this may not bethe perfect answer but, there are several 'site downloaders' (for Windows) that you can specify types of files to exclude. [15:50] samfisher: websites are like a game of chess, you MUST think first, before you move. [15:50] dustybin: if you helped me so far (ad thanks) i'm gonna explain the full problem: some of those links are bronke and i want to reconstruc the page [15:51] i dont understand [15:52] if you use firefox, the plugin hackbar can be used like wget. [15:52] well, imagine a webiste with a menu (actually a list of other websites). you choose one from the list and it loads a page that shows you lots of names (actually links to .exe files). might be like http://server1.com/file0001.exe [15:54] Sorry, I thought i'd joined ##slackware... [15:54] No, it doesn't say #html-help there <-------- [15:54] no this windows webspidering [15:54] ow, just trying to help [15:55] well there's not much else going on right now [15:55] sorry, but i know here i can really find good support. many other chans are just names. for example, in #ubuntu they talk about video cards. non stop [15:56] Nick change: fire|bird -> evil|bird [15:56] uh oh [15:56] kimjeng (~mike@41.220.238.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:56] You guys try to help. Tadgy and I will try to make things worse. This could be fun! [15:56] evil|bird is here to torment our souls [15:56] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] rob0: lol :) [15:57] I read that as "Torrent our souls" [15:57] and I will just stick my oar in where it's not wanted [15:57] arfon, I'll torrent them once I take them. ;) [15:57] soul.torrent hmm [15:57] maybe that's the answer! [15:57] Action: FriedBob will just sit back, watch and cackle randomly [15:57] Action: arfon gets ready a "making available lawsuit".... [15:58] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.33.66) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:58] You are assuming a soul would be protected by copyright law [15:58] Those typically fall under contract law [15:58] Mine's patented... [15:58] Southern Kentucky Fried Bob [15:58] Like my jeans [15:58] dive, OUCH, I definitely did not want your oar in THERE! Pull it OUT! [15:58] damn that's how I can make a bit of cash - patent souls [15:59] rob0: You know you like it when he twists it around [15:59] haha [15:59] Patent souls... ???... PROFIT! [15:59] Action: dive registers soulbook.com [16:00] Oh man, that's a good'n [16:00] Action: dustybin patents a patent what stops patents from being patented [16:00] bah foiled again [16:00] That's either a Motown site or an Evil Social Networking site [16:00] http://slackwiki.org/Kernel26Compilation will lilo somehow autodetect the kernel when i type "make install" or do i have to run "lilo" after 'make install' ? [16:01] run lilo [16:02] i wonder why the tutorial doesn't mention it :\ [16:03] who's responsible for that page? [16:03] Slackwiki conrtibutors are lazy? [16:03] uh, "make install" depends on a kernel install script, what's it called? [16:04] aarchvile, there are other kernel compile guides on the wiki, have a look at those too [16:04] I think supposed to be /sbin/installkernel maybe [16:04] arfon, not all of us [16:05] http://slackwiki.org/Kernel_Compilation#Compiling_v2.6 now that describes the lilo configuration part [16:05] nvision (~nvision@g224249206.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:05] nvision (~nvision@g224249206.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Changing host [16:05] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [16:05] I use to not be... Until the GREAT MEMORY PURGE [16:05] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.33.66) joined ##slackware. [16:05] The laziest contributors are like me, too lazy to contribute. [16:05] After that, I quit contributing [16:05] :( [16:06] Who chose Media wiki for it??? [16:07] why what's wrong with mediaewiki? [16:08] piece'o crap that hard to administer... IMHO [16:08] Something as simple as slackwiki could easily use a trimmer wiki... [16:08] never tried to admin one [16:09] It's bad [16:09] I had two mediawiki sites [16:09] Moved them to Drupal and dokuwiki [16:10] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.33.66) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:14] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:15] dustybin: can i pm you please? [16:16] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [16:21] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:21] samfisher: sure [16:21] samfisher: i charge £40 per hour [16:21] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:22] daamn [16:22] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [16:22] :P [16:22] yo macavity [16:22] howdy dive :-) [16:26] i have a website such as http://sitename.com/list.asp and when i select and item from the dropdown menu it becomes */list.asp?number=0001 .How do I copy all pages after list.asp? ? [16:29] :) [16:29] try /msg dustybin :) [16:30] i don't want to upset him [16:30] ? he said "sure' [16:30] samfisher, have you tried looking at the source? [16:31] dive: yes. but it doesn't help me [16:31] Oh noes! It's Dive-vader [16:31] maybe due to inexperience [16:32] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Does anybody know of a command able to print the rpm value of an IDE hard disk, similar to what BSD's disklabel do? [16:34] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) left irc: Changing host [16:34] illovae (~C-18@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. [16:36] sg3-utils has such a thing, I think [16:37] sginfo -g /dev/sda for example [16:40] Does smartctl have that capability? [16:41] hdparm to get the info + google, too :> [16:42] thrice`, hdparm gives a lot of information but, sadly, not that one :) [16:42] no, you'd have to google the model or so [16:42] JJJunkk (~JJJunkk@S010600c0f035de4d.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] yes, I thought so. [16:42] thrice`: o/ [16:42] hi :> [16:43] zx31 (zx31@64-18-131-151.proxy.xzibition.com) left ##slackware ("meh"). [16:49] thrice`, sginfo -g says something about a module not being loaded. I will try after the next reboot. Thanks for the suggestions. [16:51] Tadgy (tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) left ##slackware. [16:53] uva (~uva@111-240-225-192.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:54] v4nelle (~van@79.107.237.232) joined ##slackware. [16:55] uva (~uva@111-240-206-124.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone! [16:59] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426499.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [17:04] Rat409 (~Rat409@bb-205-209-95-251.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [17:07] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-15.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:07] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[17:12] robsonpeixoto (~robinho@189.105.40.101) left irc: Client Quit [17:13] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:19] jemark (~mark@86-44-32-251-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:20] i have only ever upgradepkg packages, have just noticed there is a kernel patches directory [17:20] are there any rules one should follow before upgrading kernel [17:20] *patching [17:22] not really, but you should be on the security mailing list to find out about the kernel patches/updates [17:22] just remember to run lilo after [17:22] backup [17:23] First rule of anything, make a backup [17:23] my system is setup to do rsnapshots [17:23] but there's no reverse gear! I can't back up! [17:23] lets take a look inside [17:24] vituarl (~vituarl@constant.inople.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:24] Except for the tautaulogy club. The first rule of tautaulogy club is the first rule of tautaulogy club. [17:24] I always installpkg kernel packages so as not to remove the old ones. [17:24] i have a linux-2.6.33.4-2 [17:24] vituarl (~vituarl@constant.inople.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] use installpkg, and later if desired, manually removepkg the old one. [17:24] I have custom kernels anyway but always slackpkg the patches when they arrive [17:25] firmware, generic, headers, huge, modules, source [17:25] rob0: just install a new kernel? [17:25] and let lilo choose what one [17:25] I manually manage lilo too. [17:25] same [17:25] Linux server 2.6.33.4 #2 SMP Wed May 12 22:31:33 CDT 2010 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [17:25] #2 [17:26] is that old? [17:26] Always want to make sure lilo has a bootable kernel around. [17:26] dustybin, that is stock 13.1 I believe [17:26] yes [17:26] i have never patched it since installing 13.1 [17:27] /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.1/patches/packages/linux-2.6.33.4-2 [17:27] After using upgradepkg to install these packages, you'll need 2 to rebuild your initrd (if you use one), and then reinstall 3 LILO [17:28] its amazing how easy things are when one reads the readme :D [17:28] Action: dustybin feels excited [17:28] Easy now, this is a family channel [17:28] haha not in that way [17:29] Sure. [17:29] You never knmow with the people here [17:29] haha [17:29] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.88.253) joined ##slackware. [17:30] so basically [17:30] i need to upgradepkg everything in the kernel patches directory, then rebuild my initrd (this will be tricky with my LVM raid1 OS drives) [17:31] then job done [17:32] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:32] jeeze that was quick [17:32] Package kernel-generic-2.6.33.4-x86_64-1 upgraded with new package ./kernel-generic-2.6.33.4-x86_64-2.txz. [17:33] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [17:33] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [17:33] dustybin: You're probably wondering why you didn't do it sooner, eh? ;) [17:34] lorenzocabrini (~lc@41.191.244.70) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:34] dustybin, subscribe to the slackware mailing lists [17:35] another idea is to read /topic [17:35] i did subscribe but nothing ever happened [17:35] Security: mozilla*, samba, sudo, bzip2, kernel (x86_64). [17:35] i did those already [17:35] i just didnt realise there was a kernel patch dir inside it [17:35] what's the last one? [17:36] ? [17:36] Action: dustybin dives for cover [17:37] upgradepkg *.txz sorts it all out [17:37] ok I'm gonna go over there --> [17:38] Hi dive [17:38] haha :P [17:39] upgradepkg is the same as installpkg + upgradepkg ? [17:40] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2795088 Sep 21 23:28 vmlinuz-generic-2.6.33.4 [17:40] todays date stamp so thats yes [17:40] Action: dustybin feels too scared to reboot box [17:40] it's the same kernel version but build 2 [17:40] it will end in [FAIL[ [17:40] yes [17:40] it will if you don't run lilo [17:41] indeed [17:41] i need to rebuild initrd first [17:41] with LVM this is tricky [17:41] yeah that too [17:41] something like [17:41] mkinitrd -c -m ext3 -f ext3 -k 2.6.24.5-smp -r /dev/sysvg/root -L -o /boot/initrd-2.6.24.5-smp.gz [17:41] Action: dustybin feels scared [17:42] my opinion is - install huge for a fallback kernel, compile a custom kernel for each machine _without_ an initrd [17:42] but that's just my opinion [17:42] I never liked the idea of using initrd [17:42] i need to for LVM + RAID1 to work [17:43] Action: dustybin feels double scared [17:43] why 2.6.24.5-smp? when you just installed -2.6.33.4? [17:43] anyway I know nothing about initrd so it's time for others to step up [17:47] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [17:47] dive: this is the real line [17:47] mkinitrd -c -m ext4 -f ext4 -k 2.6.33.4 -r /dev/mapper/system-root -L -o /boot/initrd.gz [17:48] lets try [17:48] is that right though that lvm/raid can't be built into the kernel? [17:49] all the howtos show me to do it this way [17:49] so you haven't tried building it in? [17:49] might be a project [17:50] i will try one day [17:51] initrd rebuilt and lilo updated [17:51] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:51] if i reboot it could mean hours and hours of downtime [17:51] no mythtv [17:51] no asterisk [17:51] pure doom [17:51] you kept your old kernel? [17:51] nope [17:51] good luck :) [17:52] shall i reboot anyway [17:52] I would [17:52] arfon (~arfon@66.87.4.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:53] dive: how can one tell what version of the patched kernel one is using [17:53] Linux server 2.6.33.4 #2 SMP Wed May 12 22:31:33 CDT 2010 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [17:53] nothing shows here [17:54] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Changing host [17:54] FusionX (FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) joined ##slackware. [17:54] dive: The raid and LVM userspace tools need to be added to an initrd [17:54] bgeddy (~bgeddy@91.84.218.129) joined ##slackware. [17:54] XGizzmo, ah right [17:54] a mini linux system [17:54] that's annoying [17:56] dustybin, well uname shows #2 which means build 2 ifaik [17:56] hmm [17:56] but if you check /var/log/packages/ and see the version [17:57] and check /boot [17:57] you can also look at the compile date. [17:57] ok frank [17:57] and you have rebooted, it's safe to assume it's the patched version [17:58] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:03] mine says #3 fwiw :P [18:03] dustybin (~dustybin@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:04] I think mine is about #20 by now [18:04] Linux BlackSun 2.6.33.4-blacksun #11 Mon Sep 27 08:46:20 BST 2010 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [18:04] nope #11 [18:04] mind that's the server [18:05] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:05] cd /var/log/packages/ [18:05] ls [18:05] oops [18:05] :D [18:05] That's a bogus joke. [18:07] that's a bogusjokejoke [18:07] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.134.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:08] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:09] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [18:10] lol [18:10] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: rhisa [18:10] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] samfisher (~unaffilia@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:18] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:18] SLackware! D: [18:18] how do make it so I can mount or automount a USB drive as a normal user and unmount? [18:19] It is only possible to do so as root for the time being [18:19] add yourself to the plugdev group [18:19] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:19] And now I Need to log in and out don't I @_@;; [18:20] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:20] yes, log out of X and all consoles [18:20] vituarl (~vituarl@constant.inople.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:20] then log back in etc [18:20] @_@;; [18:20] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:20] and if you are in runlevel 4 do a init 3 then init 4 [18:21] Augh, man, times like this I wish I had infinitely large pipes (banwidth) :| [18:21] and stop pulling stupid faces might be a start [18:21] vituarl (~vituarl@constant.inople.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] (opening the browser is gonna be slow) [18:23] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:23] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Edogaa, why do you need a browser? [18:24] No, its cause I have one browser with a stupidly large amounts of tabs open... [18:24] saving that and reopening it [18:24] is gonna be soooo slow lol [18:24] ah [18:25] well save tabs and whatever your browser does [18:26] GamiPhone (~AndChat@adsl-240-140-182.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Urugami (~AndChat@9.sub-97-229-187.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:31] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:32] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:32] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-149-173.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-149-173.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Changing host [18:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [18:40] i cant solve this by myself,i have an error and a command that produced that error bellow http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/IDxe6Y33.html [18:41] darkrho (~darkrho@192.40.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [18:44] pupit, where is the command being run and by which user? [18:46] user is p, command is being run in /home/p [18:47] gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:48] pupit, echo "this is a test" | mailx p@youremail.com [18:48] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:49] dive: its a same error still [18:49] i've found this http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1194687 did not tried yet [18:50] your mta is having problems trying to write to its queue dir [18:50] so the question is, is this a standard mta setup, or what did you do to break it? [18:51] i did nothing, trying to setup mailx script to send my bookmarks to my mail [18:52] mailx needs sendmail right? [18:52] by default slackware's sendmail works [for the X value of 'works']. what you have there would imply wrong permissions or broken filesystem for its mail queue [18:53] right, so permissions maybe im dealing with [18:53] seems like it [18:53] what does your 'ls -ld /var/spool/mqueue' show? [18:54] ananke: no such file or directory [18:54] ill make it [18:54] huh? [18:54] well, that would be the problem [18:54] why did you remove it? [18:54] pupit, do you have sendmail installed? [18:54] ananke: didnt exist at all [18:55] dive: i have [18:55] Alsom, ow do I go from init 4 to 3? I mean, without rebooting :/ I usually just reboot after changing inits? [18:55] Edogaa: init 3 [18:55] pupit: something removed it [18:55] Edogaa, open a console, su to root, tyoe init 3 [18:55] type* [18:56] then log in in tty1, su to root again and init 4 [18:56] to go back [18:56] ananke: also, it pointed to clientmqueue not mqueue [18:57] so i added clientmqueue dir then the above link is the error [18:57] well you should have clientmqueue too [18:57] Animeking (~Animeking@adsl-64-177-70.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] Right [18:57] dive: have both now :) [18:57] THanks :| (figured out how to) [18:57] Or was told but regardless thanks :| [18:59] Edogaa (~Animeking@adsl-64-177-70.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:02] the question still remains, what did you do to remove them in the first place :) [19:02] ananke: i see i see [19:03] i have checked in my vbox slack [19:03] it works... [19:03] well you see but we don't [19:03] haha [19:03] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:04] Scott271 (~scott@p-69-195-57-191.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:05] i wish i could know what did i broke, cant remember anything [19:05] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [19:09] don't drink and root :) [19:09] user70463 (~user14046@adsl-76-250-139-140.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [19:10] :) [19:10] estranho (~diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [19:11] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[20:13] Razec (~razec@201-92-78-226.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:14] ircleuser (~rilmuset@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:15] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:15] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-1-113-217.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [20:16] i have booted using a slackware usb stick, when activate the LVMs and try and chroot, it warns about not being able to exec sh, a lot of commands show error messages [20:16] Nick change: ircleuser -> dustybin [20:16] Nick change: dustybin -> dustybin_ [20:19] if i boot into slackware using a 32-bit usb stick and chroot into a 64-bit system, could this cause problems? [20:20] yes [20:20] 32bit kernels can't run 64bit programs [20:20] droog (~irssi@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [20:21] right now it makes sense [20:21] i failed [20:21] i thought everything was corrupt [20:22] i was using this usb image [20:22] ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware64-13.1/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [20:22] but its only 32-bit [20:23] dustybin_ (~rilmuset@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Quit [20:23] shouldn't be, it should take the 64bit kernel from your cd [20:24] you need to set the kernel yourself if i recall [20:24] copy it in yourself [20:25] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: disappearing... [20:29] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:30] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [20:34] EducatedWhtTrash (~pothead@c-69-143-100-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:34] /dev/dsp cannot be opened. Permission denied. [20:34] How do I fix this? [20:35] droog (~irssi@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:36] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:38] EducatedWhtTrash: is your user part of the audio group? [20:38] ashe (~ashe@125.166.177.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:38] Not sure. How do I check? (I'm very rusty on Linux) [20:39] ashe (~ashe@125.166.164.1) joined ##slackware. [20:41] EducatedWhtTrash, you can cd /dev >> ls -l dsp [20:41] ok [20:43] EducatedWhtTrash: groups [20:43] oops, sorry EducatedWhtTrash, i thought you wanted to check permission settings; my bad [20:43] lol [20:44] :( [20:44] Na I need to add myself to the audio group [20:44] EducatedWhtTrash: grep audio /etc/group [20:45] audio:x:17:root [20:50] well guess you need to add your user to it as well (as have a regular user instead of root) [20:50] That's what I'm getting at though. How do I add the user without adding the entire user group? [20:51] I thought audio was a default group [20:51] Action: EducatedWhtTrash scratches head [20:51] EducatedWhtTrash, try grep <> /etc/group [20:51] what does that produce [20:51] ?? [20:52] Not a thing [20:52] nothing? [20:53] <> = your user name [20:53] Yea I figured. [20:53] Doesn't do anything [20:56] i run that i get my groups -- scanner, users, etc [20:56] how odd [20:56] deco (~xabi@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [20:57] Could it be because I'm running Slax? [20:57] FAIL [20:57] :) [20:57] I figured here would be just as good to ask; the other room is pretty dead. [20:58] it's not dead, it's just "permission denied" to all the users... they haven't added the channel to their groups (joke) [20:58] XGizzmo, how are your taxes holding up [21:02] chomping (~chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) joined ##slackware. [21:05] v4nelle (~van@79.107.237.232) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:05] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) joined ##slackware. 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[21:30] bnguyen (~bnguyen@210.245.12.43) joined ##slackware. [21:36] /etc/rc.d/rc.sound restart [21:36] no such file or directory [21:36] rc.alsa [21:36] and he'd had to log out and back in anyway [21:36] probably [21:37] lauanana (~lauanana@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:39] lauanana (~lauanana@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [21:40] asarch (~asarch@187.132.135.139) joined ##slackware. [21:40] well you can rmmod all the sound modules then run rc.alsa [21:41] but on reboot = same problem [21:41] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [21:41] pointless [21:42] [21:47] pupit1 (~p@109-93-234-89.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined ##slackware. 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