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[00:22] ok :D [00:22] Action: PuffyBSD does the elite dance around the channel [00:22] haha [00:22] congratulations champion [00:23] loser [00:23] u're my hero [00:23] PuffyBSD (puffy@cpe-68-174-62-74.hvc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [00:23] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [00:23] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.244.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:23] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] m1ck3y (mickey@adsl-76-226-249-238.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [00:27] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [00:29] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:33] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [00:34] puffy was back eh? 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"Charlie Waffles!" - Right! ;) [02:13] Pref (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:13] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [02:18] I have a NAS (actually a hacked WD My Book World Edition) that I want to plug a USB drive into [02:19] I'm going to set it up to automount and backup stuff onto the external harddrive [02:19] but I want to unplug it without unmounting [02:19] what are the dangers of [02:19] unpluggin the drive in the middle of an rsync? [02:19] and then remounting later? [02:20] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:21] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:25] bUzz_iN (~androirc@4.sub-70-197-111.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Hello [02:26] zero7 (~crazy@86.36.49.1) left irc: Quit: Don't panic [02:27] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. 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[04:23] I want to change the format of the output for the command time [04:23] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:23] uh? [04:24] 'man date', it's too complex to explain it on irc [04:25] or /join #bash, they always explain date formats to people. [04:25] no--i know the format [04:25] time keeps thinking is a command [04:25] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-16-52.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:25] time -f %e Myprogram [04:25] time? wtf are you talking about? [04:25] give -f command not found [04:26] run 'type -a time' [04:26] But i think i found the problem [04:26] time is a shell builtin [04:26] yea [04:26] /usr/bin/time works [04:26] didn't know that [04:26] if you call it as ''\time'' it will run the binary one. [04:27] cool, thanks slava_dp [04:27] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-97-115.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:28] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.24.150) joined ##slackware. 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[05:54] spectre1 (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:57] clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) left irc: Quit: sleeping , everyone take care :-) [05:58] seen Mozes [05:58] !seen Mozes [05:58] no bots? [05:58] ah there are. [06:01] the bot's on strike [06:01] wants a better pay [06:07] MoZes (~mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:08] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:08] &seen mindbender [06:08] %seen mindbender [06:09] only phrag's evil bot replies [06:09] it seems useless though [06:12] today is 4.5.1 release? [06:12] today is kde 4.5.1 release? [06:13] yeah seems so [06:15] Yeah about that time [06:15] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:15] However, I did not prepare a set of packages for 4.5.1 yet... volkerdi was supposed to look into that, so who knows... [06:16] alienBOB: pim wont ship with it this time too right? [06:16] Darlei- (yo@85-197-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:21] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.169) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:25] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:26] sahko: PIM is still not ready for KDE 4.5.1 unfortulately. The 4.4.5 version needs to be used [06:26] vishu (d2d41646@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.22.70) joined ##slackware. [06:26] pete`` (~user@011.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:26] hello [06:27] thought so, the recent mentions in this said something about 'some time in 2010' [06:27] Has anyone tried lxde? How does it compere to xfce [06:30] vishu (d2d41646@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.22.70) left ##slackware. [06:30] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:31] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:36] muumi: it's more snappy, and it's nice [06:38] definitely lighter [06:38] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [06:38] some rough edges but nothing horrible [06:39] were there lot of tweaking to get it to run? Looking lightweight desktop for my OLD laptop [06:41] no, no tweaking or weird things needed [06:41] and alienBOB has made packages (but I don't know how recent they are, anyway, you still have the slackbuilds) [06:43] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-131-140.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:43] well then... I guess I give it a shot... there's allways runlevel 3 if it doesn't work out [06:44] gnu screen is the best desktop environment =) [06:45] (I have a hardstatus line that shows tabs, hostname, date, etc.) [06:48] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:48] slava_dp: that seriously looks light! I haven't even known about gnu screen... but looks like there's some learning involved [06:49] ... that's not a bad thing... learning I mean, but I need something running in a hurry [06:49] muumi, if you wish to find out more about screen, read this article (it even has the hardstatus line code for copy/paste): http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Using_GNU_Screen [06:50] slava_dp: tmux! [06:50] adrien, non-standard. and i'm a screen guy already :-) [06:51] when tmux enters slackware, I might give it a try. [06:51] slava_dp: like you never installed anything that wasn't in slackware [06:52] splitvt ftw [06:52] slava_dp: and I haz vertical split :P [06:52] I have boxen in several locations now, and slackware versions ranging from 12.1 to 13.1 are installed. I like using something that is universal :) [06:53] slava_dp: I like using something that's good :P [06:53] lol [06:53] and the only restriction would be libevent: tmux 1.3 requires a version that might not be on 12.1 [06:53] slava_dp: http://notk.org/~adrien/tmux.png [06:54] slava_dp: thanks! I strangely interested about that gnu screen. [06:54] screenshot taken right now =) [06:54] vishu (d2d41646@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.22.70) joined ##slackware. [06:54] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-131-140.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [06:54] could anyone tell me what is salckware? [06:54] omgzwhatisthislanguage?!? [06:54] slava_dp: ergh? it's latex! [06:55] vishu, I have never heard about salckware. [06:55] vishu: I'm tempted to tell you that it's a giant saucer :-) [06:55] but a question first: what brought you on this IRC channel? [06:56] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.26.73) joined ##slackware. [06:57] just to know what is this [06:57] adrien, I've never made myself start with tex :) [06:57] adrein plz tell me [06:58] Seriously... I looked about screen and tmux. I haven't got a clue they even existed tho I have looked something like that when I run out my virtual consoles [06:58] vishu: look on a wikipedia [06:58] vishu, http://www.slackware.com <-- go and read. [06:58] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.24.150) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:59] why dont you guys are helping me out? [06:59] vishu: because you don't help yourself [06:59] we can't make up for your laziness [06:59] okkk [06:59] i will search it out [06:59] slava_dp gave you the link [07:00] thaks guys [07:00] slava_dp: it's not hard: I can't remember the header so I copy-paste it each time [07:00] after that, it's very easy: mostly \section{your-title} and subsection, subsubsection, chapter, paragraph [07:00] muumi, it's nice to hang out on irc, some things slip by from time to time, that you may want to find out more about :-) [07:00] nothing very hard to remember [07:02] adrien, and what do people do with tex documents after they are created? convert to pdf? [07:02] I mean, for distribution [07:03] slava_dp: yup: right pane, running pdflatex [07:03] displaying on apvlv [07:03] can also make postscript [07:03] and in my case, I'll use hevea to get html output too [07:04] LOGOUT [07:04] slava_dp: definitely looks like irc can help... even so that it sidetrack me from my orginal task ;) [07:04] /quit [07:04] ? [07:04] hahaha [07:04] mbrokeos (~mbrokeos@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [07:04] vishu, try LOGMEOUTPLEASENOW!!!!oneone!!11 [07:05] vishu (d2d41646@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.22.70) left irc: [07:05] worked :D [07:05] ^^ [07:06] sometimes people randomly get on ##slackware, for no reason, just at random... [07:07] slava_dp: oh, btw, I'm going to embed ocaml code in the latex code which I will then translate with a program written in ocaml into html code, complicated enough :P [07:07] Action: slava_dp laughs [07:07] nice [07:09] I downloaded and have looped the slackware64 13.1 .iso during the install to elimate any DVD issues, and the installed complains many packages are corrupted. The md5sum match up ... What gives? [07:09] hmm [07:09] memtest ? [07:10] why loop it? so you're basically doing an install from disk, and how are you booting? [07:10] It fails on the same packages everytime.. memtest would be more random? [07:10] mem problems rather [07:10] test hard drive also [07:10] mbrokeos, I've had this happen when install fielsystem had problems and needed reformatting with bad block check [07:10] booting of a previous burn that I though was corrupt [07:11] e2fsck -c /dev/yourdisk [07:15] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:17] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-17-166.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [07:26] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:27] memtest86.bin is booting option on slackware64 iso , right? [07:27] or is there there a memtest86_64? [07:27] archcezar (1000@dhp175.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:27] memtest is it's own OS [07:27] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:28] mbrokeos, get systemrescuecd, it has memtest and lots of other stuff. it's a very handy thing to have anyway. [07:28] archcezar (1000@acvn33.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:30] ther kernels internal memtest < memtest86? [07:31] the folks at my the local computer place say not to use memtest86 for some reason [07:32] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [07:33] Action: slava_dp used memtest86+ from systemrescuecd to successfully diagnose a faulty RAM twice. [07:34] memtest86+ != memtest86 (is the reason they said that) [07:35] slava_dp: are you on a 64 bit system? [07:35] lamah, right now, yes. I have a number of systems. [07:37] slava_dp: ok, i mean did you run memtest86+ on 64 sys? [07:37] I guess not. both systems that had faulty RAM were pre-64bit. [07:37] a pentium III, and a via C7. [07:38] ah ok [07:39] would it matter? memtest86+ is not a program, it is loaded as an OS. [07:40] just binary [07:40] yes [07:40] i can't run it from 64 bit system [07:40] it is compiled from original code for 32 bit [07:40] how are you trying to run it? [07:40] source [07:41] you need to put memtest into your bootloader, and load it as an OS. [07:41] it's not a program. [07:41] hehe i know [07:41] :)) but i can't [07:41] i am using slack64 [07:41] do you have blank cd/dvd's and a burner? [07:41] then get sysrescd, they've done all the work for you. [07:42] slava_dp: kernel /boot/memtest86+ --type=netbsd root=/dev/sda2, e.g. [07:42] slava_dp: it's a binary [07:42] WildWizard: who, me? [07:42] yes you [07:42] WildWizard: yes [07:42] lamah, no, this won't work. [07:43] slava_dp: this work for me [07:43] slava_dp: this is for default grub parameters [07:43] what? you just told us it doesn't work! [07:43] i just put a fedora dvd in, and that version of memtest86 created those mouse sparks on the screen, then froze. [07:43] http://www.memtest.org/download/4.10/memtest86+-4.10.iso.gz decompress and burn this iso to a disk and then boot from it [07:43] unless grub boots iso images? [07:44] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:44] WildWizard: thanks i need it on PC from menu [07:47] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [07:48] why the hell would slackware 13.0 32bit run okay, and now that i tried installing slack64 , the computer is going slower and crashing memtest86? [07:49] how are you running memtest and which version [07:49] will sysrescuecd detect viruses or motherboard problems? [07:49] wildwizard: i booted an old fedora dvd that I remembered had a faily recent version of memtest [07:50] Mowah (1000@c-5c8ee555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:50] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] that makes no sense memtest is it's own OS how are you running it? [07:51] mbrokeos: you probably have bad memory then [07:52] NB if you are really running memtest86 and NOT memtest86+ then it WILL crash on any modern system [07:52] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [07:53] Nick change: mbrokeos -> mbrokeaway [07:53] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:53] mbrokeaway kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [07:53] oops [07:54] well that ends that conversation [07:57] lol [07:57] Darlei (yo@85-197-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:57] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] i think i just found something that allows one to boot the memtest iso from lilo/grub [07:59] I have memtest on a usb flash, along with other stuff. I boot it via isolinux's memdisk. [07:59] I largely suspect one can use memdisk with lilo as well. [07:59] that would be the program "memdisk" [07:59] hi, i installed slackware to dual boot with Debian, since installing lilo when i boot Debian X complains about missing directories. is it possible that the wrong kernel is being booted? how can i fix this if anyone has seen this [08:00] Coke (~coke@c-3ebee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:00] check /etc/lilo.conf, confirm the settings [08:01] Hello. I usually use ssmtp for my local mail relay setup, I'm looking in /etc/mail right now, is there an easy way to relay all non-localhost mail to a specific SMTP server? [08:01] slava_dp, the look right, but i havent used lilo in a few years [08:02] Using sendmail I'm getting "connection refused" on 127.0.0.1, how can I make it use our external SMTP? [08:02] or mta [08:02] pastebin lilo.conf [08:04] Action: slava_dp is afk for now [08:04] http://pastebin.ca/1929895 [08:04] WildWizard (michael@ppp118-208-17-166.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [08:05] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:06] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:06] Raggs, sure fire. you boot the same kernel for slack and debian. why are you doing that? [08:06] for fun? [08:07] image = /mnt/debian/boot/vmlinuz [08:07] s/fun/fail/ ? =) [08:07] slava_dp, more likely because i am an idiot : / [08:08] now you see it? =) [08:08] they aren't the same kernel [08:08] orly? :) [08:08] my thought process was that it would look on /dev/sda1, which of course seems to be wrong [08:09] this is the path to kernel file on the *current* booted system. [08:09] chonema (~tux@122-124-131-235.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@122-124-*.dynamic.hinet.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:09] chonema kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: nogo, ban avoidance doesn't prove how smart you are - it proves that you really are an asshat. [08:09] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-17-166.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] winna, lilo can boot memtest86+ via memdisk (which is already in slackware) [08:10] yeah, that was my thought too. [08:11] slava_dp, so image = /mnt/debian/boot/vmlinuz will fix it? [08:11] Raggs, wherever you debian is mounted. [08:11] I can't look where it is. [08:11] mounted at boot? [08:12] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [08:12] lilo writes physical location on disk of the image into the bootloader. that means, you need to mount the debian partition, and point lilo to debian's kernel file. [08:13] otep (~otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:13] Action: slava_dp goes to eat his lunch. be back in a while. [08:14] otep (~otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com) joined ##slackware. [08:15] otep (~otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:15] raggs: do you understand what slava_dp said? [08:16] sorta [08:17] i need the image to be the actual path to the vmlinuz-2.6... [08:18] did debian default to a grub? [08:18] yea, the easy method that is easy to understand is to make a /mnt/debian mount point and edit fstab to mount your debian system withing your slackware system [08:18] installed slack after debian [08:18] WildWizard, let me see if i get this [08:18] if so, you can reinstall debian's grub to that partitions boot sector (instead of the mbr) [08:19] in lilo root = the partition that / is on [08:19] and then have lilo conf chainload like it would a windows partition (i.e. with other=) [08:19] i thought it would be "easier" to just add Debian to lilo [08:20] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:20] you've been told how to do that by slava [08:21] mancha, yep, and i would like to make sure i do it correctly [08:21] boot slack, mount debian at some mountpoint, edit lilo conf to point to the mounted kernel, run lilo [08:22] he lost me at mounting the the debian partition [08:22] in slack now [08:22] ok, debian is on /dev/sda3 right? [08:22] do you know what disk debian is installed on? [08:22] no, sda1 [08:23] i mounted sda1 already [08:23] ok so mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/debian [08:23] Mowah (1000@c-5c8ee555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:23] is Desktop/debian ok? [08:23] locate the debian kernel. maybe /mnt/debian/root/.... [08:23] more like boot not root [08:24] and i found the kernel [08:24] /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 [08:24] okay, now put image=/full/path/to/debian-kernel in the febian block of lilo.conf [08:25] so the full /home/me/Desktop/debian.boot/vmlin... [08:25] he might need to copy his slackware conf and create a start point for debian [08:25] yes Raggs, whatever the FULL path is [08:25] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.27.61) joined ##slackware. [08:26] i dont get how it works [08:26] lilo.conf will translate that into a physical offset in terms of drive geometry so the path is an abstraction anyways. [08:26] er, lilo will not lilo.conf [08:26] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [08:26] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [08:26] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [08:27] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.26.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:27] so, when i run lilo it will create a usable booth path? [08:27] it does't care about the path after it writes the mbr [08:28] just do it (tm) [08:28] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [08:28] lol [08:28] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:29] major fail [08:29] Fatal: open /home/chuck/Desktop/debian/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64: No such file or directory [08:29] you fail [08:29] if you cd to that dir is it there? [08:29] ls -l /home/chuck/Desktop/debian/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 [08:29] does it exist? [08:30] Action: Raggs is an idiot... bare with me please [08:32] i thought i mounted it in a different place, fixed now. it ran and says "One warning was issued." [08:32] you should be good to do now. [08:33] ty, will give it a try [08:34] troy_ (~troy@dsl-69-172-98-158.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:34] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-161-31.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:37] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:38] sta (~AYEAHH@vpn.alpikom.it) joined ##slackware. [08:38] hi [08:39] Coke (~coke@c-3ebee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:42] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] sta (AYEAHH@vpn.alpikom.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:46] infolock (~surgeon@S0106002719c8b3cd.cn.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:48] I cant find any modem references in dmesg.. I definitely have one in this D630, but no /dev/modem configured. What am I missing to find the device file for it? [08:50] Zordrak : dialup ? [08:51] zordak: lol @ dell your modem is apparntly a part of the sound system [08:52] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:52] bah, latest digikam requires latest kde [08:54] WildWizard: yeah.. just discovering that [08:54] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [08:57] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [09:09] v4nelle (van@79.107.197.26) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:09] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [09:13] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:31] gtklocker, yeap :) [09:31] :D [09:31] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:32] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.128.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:34] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [09:35] How do I remove an entry from $PATH ? [09:35] gtklocker (gtklocker@unaffiliated/gtklocker) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.3"). [09:35] usr13: export PATH='' <- create a new one [09:36] usr13: if you want it more than temporary, add it to your .bashrc [09:36] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-202.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:36] mrcanny (~root@pitagoras.linuxcom.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:37] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Changing server [09:38] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:39] Ok thanks. [09:39] That works. 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[10:26] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [10:26] how would I do a remote graphical login through *dm? [10:27] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:29] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:31] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [10:37] patero-ng (~no@174-23-28-133.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] I want to get a network driver off another linux into my linux [10:37] how-to [10:38] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:38] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:38] good morning america [10:38] patero-ng: google for "how to ask questions smartly" [10:39] that, too :) [10:39] I don't use google I blocked it from my routers' hosts file [10:39] search private u [10:39] on my laptop, sensors list two sets of readings one says k10temp-pci-00c3 the other says acpitz-virtual0. They both read different temps. What's the difference between the two? [10:39] just download it from the manufacturer [10:40] is patched driver jooo [10:42] are they two physical sensors in the laptop, or one sensor with two readings? [10:42] troll alert [10:43] usr13: ^ was that directed at me? [10:44] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] no [10:44] ...need to lay off the coffee i guess :) [10:47] artaud (~artaud@187.113.118.230) joined ##slackware. [10:47] artaud (~artaud@187.113.118.230) left irc: Changing host [10:47] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [10:48] kalabas (~vag-kal@ppp-94-66-92-10.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:49] I want to get a network driver off another linux into my linux [10:49] please advice this teen [10:49] GilaWaya (kerbau@edge.edish-network.com) joined ##slackware. [10:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@174-23-28-133.slkc.qwest.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:50] patero-ng kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: patero-ng [10:50] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:50] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:52] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [10:57] slackboy, why banned patero-ng i think he was asking to help ??? [10:57] or must told him going to channel wireless because his case is wireless [10:57] no, he's a troll [10:58] i smell a sympathizer [10:58] just a newb [10:58] be smart and do not make your moral like him moral if not like some one ignore him better kick or ban [10:59] patero is usually automatically banned [10:59] Skywise, why you thought he is tr**l ? he was want help? [11:00] he is a troll [11:00] this just the first time you've seen him [11:00] he's not welcome here and knows it [11:00] must we give hand help to who is a new not to call him bad thing [11:00] thats not what happened [11:01] mrcanny (~root@pitagoras.linuxcom.com.br) left irc: Quit: bye folks [11:01] el33t (Psychopath@unaffiliated/el33t) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Skywise, i'm new too in slackware is now i downloading files slackware so when install it if i asking help i will be tr**l? [11:02] no, but you're getting there [11:03] iraqi: you're new. you dont know the history. trolls look like trolls to people who have been around, but like innocent people to "fresh" people [11:03] he always comes in here trolling, every regualr knows this [11:03] Emery (5ec0f84b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.192.248.75) joined ##slackware. [11:03] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:04] is gnome in the slackware repo's if so which version, i've tried GSB but the menu and icons are buggered [11:04] Emery: there is a gnomeslackbuild website [11:04] that's the one i used [11:04] but in channel #backtrack-linux them did same like you are did when i installed backtrack and asked for help them called me tr**L and banned me :| [11:04] GSB is the only real option if you want Gnome on Slackware [11:04] NOOOOOOOOOOOOO [11:04] the menu and icons are fubar [11:04] iraqi, and you didn't learn a thing [11:04] oh, sorry, just saw that GSB meant gnome slackbuild, im slow today [11:04] installed it twice [11:04] iraqi: we will not ban you for asking questions [11:05] In fact we encourage asking (smart) questions [11:05] iraqi: you are aware BT is no longer lslack? [11:05] slack [11:05] BT? [11:05] backtrack [11:05] ah k. [11:05] Action: KaMii is installing 13.1 x64 right now on her brand new AMD phenom II x6 [11:05] it's ubuntu 8.10 [11:05] i believe [11:05] Action: jg71 has too many irc windows open [11:06] patero-ng is a paranoid who refuses to use search engines, afraid that someone might learn things about him. And then he expects this channel to answer his queries [11:06] whats the next best to gnome [11:06] he should use tor [11:06] i was thinking E17 [11:06] tor = fail [11:06] tor != fail [11:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-97-115.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:06] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) joined ##slackware. [11:06] fo sure [11:06] ashe (~ashe@125.166.160.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:07] Emery: Window managers are all based on personal opinion, best is what you think best is [11:07] whats wrong with tor? [11:07] GilaWaya (kerbau@edge.edish-network.com) left irc: Quit: simon says: rehashing [11:07] it's crap [11:07] AkiraYB_ (~FarSeer@187.34.57.152) joined ##slackware. [11:07] i thought it was secure [11:07] to put it plainly [11:07] nop [11:07] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.57.91.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:07] no, there are plenty of exit nodes that snoop and log [11:07] Emery: lately things have been faster [11:07] you want secure proxies set it up yourself [11:07] and lrn2 pick fast nodes [11:07] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:07] KaMii: its not secure, its anonymous [11:08] oh, ya, thats what I meant [11:08] Skywise, can install packages back|track 4 in slackware? [11:08] security is in the eye of the beholder, it's as secure as you want it to be [11:08] iraqi: BT 4 is not slackware [11:08] it's debian based [11:08] (ubuntu) [11:08] KaMii: you know the "hacker" movies where the "evil hackers" bounce their connections across the globe to try to avoid the popo? [11:08] KaMii: thats kinda all tor does [11:08] haha, cool [11:09] Emery in backtack installing file .deb what is in slackware file installing? [11:09] i like those movies [11:09] lol hacker movies are [11:09] fail [11:09] ashe (~ashe@125.163.15.226) joined ##slackware. [11:09] bigtime [11:09] but i love hackers, [11:09] they are ammusing and funny [11:09] because iyt's so cheesy [11:09] takedown is good i liked that [11:09] iraqi: http://slackbook.org/html/package-management.html#PACKAGE-MANAGEMENT-OVERVIEW [11:09] my mom always gets so excited and then asks me about them and i have to hang my head [11:09] like sneakers blew her mind [11:09] thanks mwalling [11:09] hahaha [11:09] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:10] the kevin mitnick one i liked [11:10] even thought it was all BS [11:10] but everyone should know you cant take hollywood seriously, they cant even get a latte right [11:10] making mitnick look really bad [11:10] yea [11:10] i think he's fantastic [11:10] ah .rpm is like Redhat [11:10] the media just talk sh*t about him [11:10] ugh... irssi is still highlighting everytime someone says nick, even if its inside a work like mitnick [11:11] weechat <3 [11:11] is there any trick to make slackware accepting install all "." ? [11:11] i thought i fixed the highlighting, guess not [11:11] i mean make it joker for all packages [11:11] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-151-182.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:11] el33t (Psychopath@unaffiliated/el33t) left irc: Quit: Occifer, I'm not as think as you stoned I am!   [www.t7ds.com.br] [11:11] installpkg *.txz [11:11] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:12] el33t (Psychopath@189.71.80.6) joined ##slackware. [11:12] installpkg *.tgz [11:12] what about putting spaces around nick like " nick " [11:12] el33t (Psychopath@189.71.80.6) left irc: Changing host [11:12] el33t (Psychopath@unaffiliated/el33t) joined ##slackware. [11:12] same [11:12] oh well, i just live with it for now [11:15] iraqi: are you a hacker wannabe then ? [11:15] just curious what are people using for a desktop here ? [11:15] ^^ i asked him the same question a month ago [11:16] if he was a hacker wannabe [11:16] clfs/slack :) here [11:16] going to try e17 [11:16] I'm new in linUx how could be hacker :| [11:16] Emery: im using an AMD Phenim II x6 8 gigs ram, Slackware 13.1 x64 [11:16] iraqi: if your new to linux why are you using backtrack ? [11:16] s/phenim/phenom [11:16] just my problem using linUx first time [11:17] backtrack isnbt for beginners [11:17] teckan (~teckan@bl17-96-205.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:17] isnt [11:17] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-246-12-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [11:17] iraqi: install slackware learn the basics of linux [11:17] backtrack is only used for penetration testing on other machines to test its security [11:17] then try BT [11:18] I would never use BT as a main OS [11:18] guys [11:18] its not bad, with some major changes [11:18] theres a demon in my computer [11:18] but it's unstable [11:18] crap [11:18] already I downloading slackware but want days to finish it is now just two files i downloaded still 4 files [11:18] days [11:18] ? [11:18] now third files is downloading by torrent [11:18] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:18] Emery: his internet is slow because he lives in a warzone [11:19] my speed is so slowly [11:19] i see [11:19] what download speed do you get iraqi [11:19] hes on dialup [11:19] ask the U.S. military to drop a USB stick to you with slackware on it [11:19] 5 -10 k/s so want along days to finish downloading [11:19] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:19] SHIIIII [11:19] dailup <3 [11:19] Action: Emery makes crrrrrkkkkk bbeeeeep noises [11:19] lol [11:19] yes dial-up is by cellphone [11:20] how do you install .tgz packages in slack ? [11:20] installpkg [11:20] pkg something.. [11:20] ahh [11:20] KaMii, I tried but little US army in my city so hard get talk with them [11:20] British? [11:21] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:21] i trying with some one to get some one from IT US army but still i didn't get him facebook to talk with him [11:21] intosh (~tosh@gate.makolab.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:21] cen___ (cen@pool-96-246-12-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [11:21] maybe hes not allowed to use Facebook? [11:21] no, here Korea army catching it not US Army [11:22] your in korea? [11:22] name my city Irbil [11:22] or iraq? [11:22] KaMii, he used but I didn't get him Id [11:22] no no in irbil [11:22] irbil is in north iraq [11:23] is capital religion kurdistan of iraq [11:23] or can say Best safe in iraq [11:23] oh, well if your a kurd, I dont think the USA will help you [11:23] safe place* [11:23] you can search in map google and see it [11:24] no, them very friendly with us not like in other place [11:24] well, either keep downloading and it will take a few days [11:24] them also coming to market and shopping and we talking with them and capture photo also can see them Hummar [11:25] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:25] akmal (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [11:25] or try to get someone to give you a copy [11:25] yes... is it [11:25] copy hard in iraq not know what is linUx then ask them copy for slackware :D [11:26] very little using LinUx [11:26] or know it [11:26] probably better to just slowly download yourself [11:26] no capital U in "Linux" [11:26] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:27] it will take awhile but once you have it, you can start using it [11:27] NaCl, I like write LinUx by U is nice for me [11:27] or can say my style :) [11:27] ok [11:27] Nick change: akmal -> tsuyoi [11:27] or just download a boot disk image, and the A, AP, N, set, then slowly start grabbing what packages you need as you work with linux [11:27] can i used a 12.1 rt73 driver on 13.1 ? [11:28] no [11:28] i can t seem to find it for 13.1 [11:28] prolly wont compile cos of api changes [11:28] uhm [11:28] i know it works on slackware i've had it working before [11:28] just cant remember how [11:28] There is a rt73usb module [11:28] versions matter [11:28] KaMii i downloaded first file and second can i install it now and finish other files? [11:29] AkiraYB_ (~FarSeer@187.34.57.152) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [11:29] you mean the first disk? .iso? [11:29] NaCl: in the repo ? [11:29] finish other file after installed and open it [11:29] Emery: installed by default with the other kernel modules [11:29] yes first and second .iso Disk [11:29] yup, the ralink stuff is mainline now [11:29] sexy [11:30] so it SHOULD detect it on boot ? [11:30] yes [11:30] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [11:30] but it doesnt :P [11:30] unless it is blacklisted [11:30] yes, you can install, but it wont be a full install, check the README file on there to see what sets are on disk one. I dont know becuse I use the DVD [11:30] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-40-253.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] ofh wait [11:30] there it is [11:30] iwconfig [11:30] iraqi: It would be easier if you did a full install, would make setting it up easier [11:30] saw it [11:30] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-37-117.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:30] Emery: yay [11:30] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.152) joined ##slackware. [11:30] uhm [11:30] what is kde4 like on slack ? [11:30] i remember it being quite fast [11:30] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left irc: Changing host [11:30] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. [11:30] Emery: to each his own, some like it, some dont [11:30] It's KDE 4 [11:30] for kde4 anyway [11:31] vanilla KDE 4 [11:31] Nick change: tsuyoi -> akmal [11:31] rather, KDE SC 3 [11:31] SC 4 [11:31] im debating should I install KDE or not on my new computer... i just cant decide [11:31] uhm [11:31] you can install it and not use it. [11:31] gnome isnt working for me [11:31] so maybe KDE it is [11:32] Nick change: akmal -> tsuyoi [11:32] ya i know, but if im not going to use it, not sure why I should install it... hrmmm, what to do [11:32] it would also be easy to remove [11:32] xfce ? [11:32] kickback (~Unknown@122.161.90.134) joined ##slackware. [11:32] I did the full install, KDE is easy enough to remove [11:32] if I didn't use it [11:32] ya, I normally use XFCE but with this new fast computer, i was thinking why not put KDE on? [11:32] true that [11:33] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] I just remember that kde 4 + conky = headache trying to set it up [11:33] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:33] nah [11:33] conky ? [11:33] conky. [11:33] might aswell use superkaramaba [11:33] unless you try to make conky transparent [11:33] i had problems getting conky to go transparent with KDE 4 [11:33] if your going for kde [11:33] conky is gkrellm for the poor [11:33] conky looks better [11:33] rofl [11:34] i like conky [11:34] iraqi (~iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:34] never heard of gkrellm [11:34] this aint the conky lovers chan, folks. [11:34] Emery: superkaramba is dead. long live plasma [11:34] why does kde still ship superkaramba? I've never understood that [11:34] which xfce package do i install to install it all ? [11:34] the whole of xfce that is [11:34] xfce [11:34] that;'s xfce 4? [11:34] yes [11:35] there may be other packages for certain "goodies" [11:35] but I am not sure what they are offhand [11:35] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [11:35] Emery: if you want plugins you can find XFCE plugins on Slackbuilds.org [11:35] In the beginning, it's just easier to do a full install [11:35] unless you are constrained for HDD space [11:36] Action: NaCl disappears for a bit [11:36] i forgot how long it takes to check 160 gig HDD for errors... this is taking forever [11:37] get a real HDD. 160 gb ... my usb stick is larger than that. [11:37] iraqi (~iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [11:37] I have larger ones [11:37] lol [11:37] but i dont need anything bigger [11:37] im putting root on the 160 gig [11:38] is it installpkg to install apps ? [11:38] i bet root will like it a lot. [11:38] my 1TB will have everything else [11:38] kaulian (~quassel@mon75-11-82-242-95-94.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] and my 1TB external is my backup [11:38] bonus point for knowing about and keeping backups [11:39] i have 2 backup drives [11:39] every 1TB hdd i've ever owned developed problems in the MBR within a few months, i wonder why [11:39] infact no it's not installpkg is it [11:39] Disconnection sorry guys [11:39] how do i use the binary installer [11:39] stuff I dont care about that much gets backed up once, stuff I do care a lot about gets backed up twice or even a third time on DVD or tape [11:40] Emery: installpkg [11:40] that installs .tgz files [11:40] and .txz [11:40] yeah i wanna use the binary system [11:40] pkgtools is your friend [11:40] like apt-get [11:40] ext [11:40] ect [11:40] obviously not apt-get but slackwares version [11:40] Emery: installpkg should do that [11:40] KaMii, I have first disk and second disk .iso? can I installing slackware and finish other 4 files .iso in side slackware? [11:40] slapt-get? ewww [11:41] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:41] kickback: i've tried installpkg xfce [11:41] but it doesnt work [11:41] iraqi: you can [11:41] ok thanks........... [11:41] brb [11:41] Emery: do you have the binary for xfce in the folder you're in? [11:41] Emery: if i dl a tar.gz file and rename it to .tgz, can I use installpkg? [11:41] Emery: installpkg nameoffile.t?z [11:41] im sure slackware has something like apt though ? [11:42] fortunev: do not rename a tar.gz to .tgz and try to install it [11:42] Emery: there's no official repo like in debian or fedora [11:42] Emery: there is a slapt-get but i would not use it [11:42] darn... had my hopes up for a sec! [11:42] fortunev: what are you trying to do? [11:42] why not ? [11:42] Emery: because it fails on dependency checkin [11:43] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Emery: because its a pain. slackware expects you to resolve the deps yourself [11:43] KaMii: trying to install Kupfer, or create a slackbuild for it [11:43] so where do i get hold of xfce4 [11:43] Emery: slackers like to compile their own apps from source using slackbuilds [11:43] ;x [11:43] fortunev: read the HOW TO on the slackbuilds site [11:43] it tells you how to use the slackbuild scripts [11:44] go to slackbuilds.org and search for builds there. [11:44] slackbuilds is just full of plugins for xfce4 [11:44] btw, if you want xfce, its in the slack DVD [11:44] not the actual xfce4 [11:44] i didnt use the DVD [11:44] Emery: XFCE 4 is included in the package set off the DVD it should be in XAP [11:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] i used usb installer [11:44] KaMii: I've done one or two. Gnaural was one that worked fine, but Kupfer is giving me trouble. Guess I'm a half step above a noob [11:44] then go into your usb /slackware/XAP/ [11:45] its in there [11:45] fortunev: /j #slackbuilds [11:45] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:45] on freenode? [11:45] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A2EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:45] KaMii: it's not it's a net installer [11:45] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:46] Darlei (yo@85-197-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:46] fortunev: yes on freenode [11:46] so how else can i get hold of xfce4 [11:46] i like to build from source without slackbuilds [11:46] Emery: find a slackware mirror, download the package from there [11:46] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:47] KaMii: thks [11:48] np [11:50] slackware isnt agreeing with me today [11:50] Emery: whats that mean? [11:51] means he did something wrong [11:51] so Emery's not agreeing with Slackware [11:51] Emery: are you sure your using slackware? what do you mean you did a net install? [11:51] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] what [11:52] am i sure im using slackware [11:52] KaMii: slackware has had an ftp install option for some time now [11:52] and an nfs install option for even longer [11:52] last time i checked i wasnt stevie wonder [11:52] well I know about nfs, but didnt know there was a ftp option [11:53] I would rather have a wget option - that way you can use ftp or http, but so far only ftp has been added [11:53] ^^ agree [11:53] im nervous about multilib..... [11:53] Emery: maybe you should just go to slackware.com/getslack and download the first 3 CD iso's or the DVD [11:53] no [11:53] i refuse [11:54] there has to be a way to install kde4 or xfce without the DVD [11:54] slackpkg install xfce [11:54] ofcourse there is [11:54] Emery: basic install using cd1, then use slackpkg install [11:54] download the package, and use "installpkg" on it [11:54] thrice`:slackpkg is the binary system ? [11:54] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] that doesn't make sense to me [11:55] slackpkg is a set of bash scripts that work in conjunction with installpkg/removepkg/upgradepkg [11:55] ahh sweet [11:55] and it's part of slackware [11:55] so i CAN just use slackpkg install xfce [11:55] unlike other unnamed 3rd party package stuf [11:55] wish you where here like 20 mins earlier :P [11:55] may take a few more commands than that [11:56] http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/kde/KDE.SlackBuild [11:56] is that a script i can use ? [11:56] "man slackpkg" [11:56] wejp (~wejp@moon.spacetechnology.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] that is the slackbuild to compile kde base stuff [11:57] and you don't want any slackware -current unless you want to help fix problems [11:57] uhm [11:57] would a script like that install kde4 for me ? [11:57] hello [11:57] Emery: it will build the pkg, then installpkg will install it [11:57] ahh sweet [11:58] anyone familiar with ARMedSlack or is this the wrong place for that? [11:58] wejp: hello to you! [11:58] it's a bear and takes a while since you said "kde" [11:58] Emery, slackpkg install kde . are you catching on yet? slackbuilds *build* packages [11:58] fortunev: same applies for slackpkg install kde4 ? [11:58] now now thrice [11:58] Emery: "slackpkg install xfce" should work [11:58] after you install X and required libs [11:59] X is already installed [11:59] Emery: all slackbuilds work practically the same, so yes [11:59] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:59] if X and libs are already installed, then "slackpkg install xfce" should work as well [11:59] provided you've setup slackpkt [11:59] Emery: On the slackbuild site, have a look at the howto [11:59] slackpkg rather [12:00] alisonken1home: i always forget, which is better useradd or adduser? [12:00] useradd I believe is the one you use with scripts - adduser should be the cli interactive one [12:01] if you type "useradd" it gives you a whole list of required options [12:01] Emery, .Slackbuild scripts build packages. pkgtools (installpkg, upgradepkg, removepkg) manages those packages, and slackpkg is a wrapper to deal with fetching/upgrading/installing official packages [12:01] if you type "adduser" it asks for each part [12:02] what i am trying to do is run a SDL-based application (a very simple one for test purposes which basically just sets a video mode and draws a single dot). i'm running armedslack 13.1 and built sdl and the little program from source but it always segfaults when initialising the video mode and i have no idea why. sdl is using fbcon as its backend. any ideas? [12:02] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [12:03] thrice`: it wasnt explained very clear before [12:03] thanks alisonken1home [12:03] kde or xfce [12:03] AHHH [12:03] now i just need a name for my user on this beast, lol [12:03] Emery: not to be ham-fisted, but the slackware package manager is described (except for slackpkg) in the slackware manual that's linke in the /topic [12:04] I believe there's also a slackbuilds topic in there as well [12:04] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [12:05] Mowah (1000@c-5c8ee555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:05] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:05] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [12:05] doesnt find xfce [12:06] only kde :( [12:06] what doesn't find xfce? [12:06] slackpkg [12:06] what mirror do you have /etc/slackpkg/mirrors pointing to? [12:06] sec [12:06] czech [12:06] republic [12:06] Emery: "grep -v ^# /etc/slackpkg/mirrors" [12:07] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:07] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-51.tamulink.tamu.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:07] spook: hello [12:07] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Disconnected by services [12:07] alisonken1home: czech republic [12:07] idk why, was just selected at random lol [12:07] Nick change: |CtrlAltCa| -> CtrlAltCa [12:08] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:08] try http://slackware.dreamhost.com/slackware/slackware-13.1/ [12:08] what version of slackware did you install? [12:08] 13.1 [12:09] ok - set your mirror to that, then "slackpkg update" then "slackpkg info xfce" [12:09] last night I set up a port forward for ssh on my router. I also made sure a certain port number was open. Unfortunately, I still cannot connect to the ssh server behind that router from outside. It says could not resolve hostname [12:09] will try it now alisonken1home [12:09] cryptic0: have you tried using the IP [12:09] ? [12:10] unless you have dyndns services, it may not be in a dns somewhere [12:10] alisonken1home: there it is ! [12:10] thanks :) [12:10] np [12:10] alisonken1home: what do u mean? [12:10] that's my local mirror that I try to keep updated [12:10] cryptic0: sigh [12:11] spook: hi [12:11] alisonken1home: thanks for that [12:11] I am using ip address, not any name [12:11] ssh user@1.2.3.4:6900 [12:11] alisonken1home: slackpkg install xfce gives me no packages found [12:11] I have verified that port 6900 is open on 1.2.3.4 [12:11] rather odd [12:12] cryptic0: 1.2.3.4 I doubt is a routable IP through the internet [12:12] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] if you tried ssh via IP and the IP is the wrong one, you should see something like "ssh: connect to host 192.168.200.150 port 22: Connection timed out" [12:13] "hostname not found" tells me that you tried to ssh to something that's not an IP [12:13] Emery, is it installed already? [12:13] I made up above ip address, but the one I am using is displayed on my router webpage [12:13] shouldnt be [12:13] then again i installed everything apart from KDE with the net install [12:13] Emery, ls /var/log/packages/xfce* [12:14] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@host-92-124-139-33.pppoe.omsknet.ru expired. [12:14] it is possibile i installed it [12:14] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@host-92-124-139-33.pppoe.omsknet.ru' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:14] cryptic0: your public IP? the one that's on the internet side? [12:14] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A2EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [12:14] alisonken1home: yes [12:14] alisonken1home: facepalm [12:14] it's there [12:14] cryptic0: with ssh you specify the port with the -p option, not with :portnumber [12:14] I can do a host command on that address, and it returns the fullname that my isp has set for that address. [12:15] wejp: dang it. That's so obvious. [12:15] let me try [12:15] Emery, careful, you're stupid question limit is nearly up. better start actually doing some research on your own a little bit [12:15] hardly stupid questions [12:15] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@102.sub-97-198-48.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [12:15] "how do I installed xfce" when it already is installed definitely is. read through the slackbook, you'll learn alot [12:15] wejp: spook: alisonken1home: BINGO!!!!!!!! [12:16] :) [12:16] ah man, I love moments like these [12:16] thrice`: and i obviously didnt realise i'd installed it [12:16] cryptic0: more like "wejp BINGO" :) [12:16] so tone the sarcasm, where it's not needed [12:16] yes that tooo :D [12:16] Emery, what was slackpkg's output ? [12:17] so nobody familiar with the ARM port of slackware here? [12:17] I'm not [12:17] wejp: rworkman is. but hes got a newborn and is quite busy [12:17] Emery (5ec0f84b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.192.248.75) left irc: Quit: Page closed [12:17] ah, i see [12:18] write a mail. be patient. all i can say [12:18] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:18] ofc you can also post on linuxquestions.org or whatever the sites called ... [12:18] yeah [12:18] slobad2323 (~jake@92.17.186.79) joined ##slackware. [12:19] thrice`: ...now look what you've done!!! [12:19] in fact im tempted to look into the arm foo myself. both lack of both $$ and time really is a showstopper [12:19] hum [12:19] both booth-- [12:20] jg71: same with me [12:20] thrice`: you've frightened him away ;) [12:20] what is the difference between a slackbuild and just compiling from source downloading from the applications site? [12:20] BoatX (~lodka@pc-93-234.akademiki.uni.torun.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Hi [12:21] slobad2323, slackbuilds do proper directory structures, stripping binaries, handling man pages, documentation, etc [12:21] slobad2323: slackbuild makes a proper slackware package that can be tracked - make install from source doesn't let you keep track properly [12:21] ok, thanks [12:21] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:22] lamah (~lamah@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [12:22] lamah (~lamah@78.90.113.108) left irc: Changing host [12:22] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. 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[12:39] iraqi (~iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:42] for kernel compiling under processor family type: I have an AMD Phenom II x6, generic configuration has selected 'Generic-x86-x64' should I use that one or select the 'Operon/Athlon64/Hammer/K8'? [12:42] the help option does not give me much help [12:43] anyone know of a good keyboard application launcher that I can use on slackware? [12:44] fortunev: alt f2 [12:45] mwalling: hehe - me thinkest krun is terribly buggy [12:45] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:45] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:46] mwalling: atleast under kubuntu it was. In kubuntu I used kupfer, but cant get it working in slackware [12:47] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.128.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:49] uh, im obviously not much of a gui user, the system i set up for my friend is missing everything, the only way he can open firefox is hope that he had one open, press alt+tab.. no [12:49] no programs he had open are at the taskbar [12:49] any way to reset [12:51] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@174-23-28-133.slkc.qwest.net expired. [12:51] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@174-23-28-133.slkc.qwest.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:51] start with deleting ~/.kde ~/.config ~/.cache and go from there? [12:51] any skype experts know the minimum needed open ports? [12:53] sec alisonken1home [12:53] artvdroid (~androirc@36.sub-97-249-100.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Morning. [12:53] interresting, the x64 generic kernel doesnt need much configuration changes as the x86 generic kernel did, [12:54] AndroUser2 (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:55] on a six core system, how many threads can I tell the compiler to use? make -j? [12:56] -j 12 [12:56] thanks [12:56] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:56] AndroUser2 (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:57] AndroUser2 (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] artvdroid (~androirc@36.sub-97-249-100.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:58] im still very nervous about multilibs, once its installed, do I have to always make special arguments when compliling 32 bit softaware? [12:58] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [12:58] you have to tell your compiler that you're cross-compiling - yes [12:58] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:58] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:58] AndroUser2 (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:59] wow, that was super fast to compile that kernel [12:59] don't forget the modules [12:59] Nick change: troy_ -> troy [12:59] done [12:59] ok so I would need to edit the slackbuilds scripts? or are those arguments in there? [13:00] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] i compiled a kernel today, but the tty's resolution turned out to be too low [13:00] as long as you run the 32bit shell script before calling the slackbuild, you should be ok [13:00] they should make these slackbuilds in a language like bash that can be easily read [13:00] mancha: they are [13:00] mancha, I do think sbo is eays to ready. [13:00] mancha: ahahaha :) [13:00] ashe (~ashe@125.163.15.226) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [13:00] :) [13:00] mancha: slow morning - past my bedtime :) [13:01] :) [13:01] uhhhh where is the kernel located on x64? [13:01] same place as the rest of the kernels [13:01] there is no arch/i386 [13:02] after build you cp arch/i386/boot/bzimage /boot/foo [13:02] but where is the bzimage file located? [13:02] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) joined ##slackware. [13:02] on x86 it was in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot [13:02] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [13:03] KaMii: shouldnt it be in ./arch/x86_64? [13:03] so look in /usr/src/linux/arch and see what directories are there [13:03] ok, i was thinking so, but wasnt sure [13:04] there should be a message when you compile the kernel as to where the bzimage is [13:04] if you're compiling a kernel, it's believed you know what you're doing [13:05] pwc101_ (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:06] alisonken1home: i have compiled kernels before but never the x64 just wasnt sure where it was located and the slackware blog I was using has an error where the file is located [13:06] what slackware blog? [13:07] blog.tpa.me.uk/slackwer-kernel-compile-guide [13:07] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:07] Nick change: pwc101_ -> pwc101 [13:07] err s/slakwer/slackware [13:07] since it's not a slackware-official blog, might want to email the webmaster and have them update it [13:08] ya i forget who it is, hes in here all the time [13:08] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:08] stinky (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:08] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [13:09] KaMii, you mean Zordrak? [13:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-131-140.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:13] kaulian (~quassel@mon75-11-82-242-95-94.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:16] ya Zordrak [13:19] ashe (~ashe@125.163.8.27) joined ##slackware. [13:20] ive got a urge to code a raw HTML website [13:20] masochist [13:20] i want my website to look like something from 1995 [13:20] instead of bloated 2010 [13:20] ok why when I compile my own kernel, now I get 'undefined video mode number: 316' on lilo boot [13:21] who needs a database when you can just store data with .txt files [13:21] it was working just fine on the generic kernel [13:21] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl5-205-216.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:22] RLa (~RL@infdot.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] KaMii: i kind of expected you'd say something like that :P [13:22] alienBOB: dude, as KDE branding nazi, we need to have a talk :P [13:22] delt0r___ (~delt0r@greg.cibiv.univie.ac.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:22] Action: RLa just finished installing slackware 12.2 [13:23] you can't imagine productivity increase with kde 3.5 over kde 4 :) [13:23] hm? [13:23] now i like linux again [13:23] What's wrong with KDE4? [13:23] use for some time then switch to kde 3.5 [13:23] hrm, and rc.fuse fails to start on bootup, do I need fuse? [13:24] you will see [13:24] KaMii, yes. [13:24] kickback: i have never had a problem before with the undefined video when compiling a kernel [13:24] RLa did you consider 13.1 w/o kde and then adding 12.2's kde? (not sure how hard that would be) [13:25] mancha, i used 13.1 for 3 months [13:25] hrm, maybe i borked something with my custom kernel, but I hardly touched anything, I just patched it with the wow patch and set the filesystem and changed the name [13:25] KaMii: did you compile 2.6.35.3 by any chance? [13:26] RLa: there is a kde 3.5 in /extra i believe, look there [13:26] another problem was too new kernel that crashed immediately after battery was full [13:26] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [13:26] hi [13:26] kickback: no 2.6.33.4 [13:26] i need to make an image og a 10gb hdd in order to analyze it (forensic) [13:26] how can i do that in slack 13.1 [13:26] dd? [13:26] i am trying to configure an app that is looking for the kde4/lib path. where is kde4/lib located? [13:26] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:26] daimyo (~daimyo@c-71-199-10-216.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] samfisher: dd [13:27] KaMii: ok, thanks. can I also boot that image? [13:27] mancha: hi [13:27] it will be like a .iso? [13:27] anybody here used this: http://23.fi/kukkaisvoima/ it sounds excellent, python + no mysql [13:27] hi daimyo [13:28] so how do I fix this undefined video message on lilo boot? [13:28] check this out: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/index/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ [13:28] lunarvalleys, thanks for the link, but i would need older kernel as well [13:28] RLa: i suggest if you want KDE 3.5 on slackware just use XFCE 4 instead, its already included and makes your life easier [13:28] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Client Quit [13:29] i hope someone package the trinity project for slack [13:29] KaMii: one thing comes immediately to mind. look at your 'vga=' line in lilo.conf. now, reboot & pass 'vga=ask' to the kernel. check if the mode you specified is listed [13:29] KaMii, i used xfce for some time, it's file browser (thunar?) cannot even sort files correctly [13:29] mugwort13 (~mugwort13@pool-108-12-162-216.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:30] RLa: there are many other file servers you can use, you do not have to stick with thunar [13:30] lunarvalleys: the trinity project is like a single dude trying to apply two year old distro patches... it may be slightly better than 3.5.10, but really it's like 3.5.10.1 or something [13:30] lunarvalleys: but yes, it'd be nice if there'd be an interested packager :) [13:30] RLa: try PCManFM instead of thunar [13:30] troy, what's wrong with unpatched system? [13:31] kickback, thanks [13:31] i will check them out [13:31] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:32] anyway, compared to anything more recent, slackware 12.2 is pretty solid [13:32] i remember having laptop without crash many months [13:33] now all new linuxes crash once a day on this old laptop [13:33] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] heh, driver problems? [13:33] :P [13:33] and having old system is not a problem, i can still compile newest stuff for it [13:34] lunarvalleys, i have debugged it last two months [13:34] all crashes have happened when battery charging led has turned green, so must be acpi issue [13:34] actually, my laptop is relatively old, so i keep slack 12.2 with kde3 and just update firefox and OOo [13:34] works fine [13:35] and have the newer GIMP, packaged by rworkman for slack 12.2 [13:35] i usually just compile from source [13:36] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] me too, just compiling wine takes 4-5 hours... [13:36] must be very slow computer :) [13:37] sounds like something I'd buy actually :) [13:37] not really, but i use the powersave governor, cuz the noise of the fan drives me nuts [13:37] it is 1.8 Ghz [13:37] when i compile i put it to 800 Mhz, so it doesnt heat... then just open a few beers and watch a movie [13:37] :D [13:38] heh [13:38] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.152) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:38] awesome [13:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:38] and realized that Piding for slack 12.2 should be compiled with an additional option [13:38] so the system tray icon in kde 3 shows properly [13:38] mod_wsgi v mod_python, what should i use? [13:39] daimyo (daimyo@c-71-199-10-216.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [13:39] but who would I get this undefined video mode on my custom kernel and not on the generic? I dont see what difference it makes, I changed nothing in the video section of lilo. [13:40] lunarvalleys, pidgin works fine here :) [13:41] hm, actually it does not [13:41] gave me a connection error [13:42] KaMii, you're the first I have ever seen struggling to get WoW to work on Linux. [13:42] did you update it? [13:42] missyrissy: WoW works just fine [13:42] no, system is 2-3 hours old [13:42] yes i updated lilo [13:43] i meant, do you use the one that came with the install or the one from /patches [13:43] one that came with full install [13:43] missyrissy: i got a new computer and put slackware 13.1 x64 on, so Im configuring it, this is what is going on, its a new system, and for some reason lilo is being difficult [13:44] what error you get? [13:44] you can install/configure lilo with install dvd [13:46] i think i borked my custom kernel... i will redo it [13:47] at least with me, when i upgraded to pidgin 2.7.0 the problem with the missing systray icon appeared... now i saw there is a new update to 2.7.3... hope it works fine [13:48] heh, this one here is 2.5.2 [13:48] yup its my custom kernel, i gotta redo it [13:48] it had no problems at that time [13:49] if you do slackpkg upgrade-all [13:49] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] it will download among the other patches the newest pidgin [13:49] AndroUser2 (~androirc@132.sub-97-251-50.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [13:49] it is nice, Pat keeps support to older versions of slack [13:49] KaMii, forgot to compile in root fs support? :) [13:50] john_dee (~id@95-29-146-246.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:51] i remember compiling my first kernel 8 times before i got it right [13:51] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Excess Flood [13:52] only 8? :) [13:53] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) joined ##slackware. [13:53] RLa: no i compiled it in, i used the generic config file but it seems that was incomplete, im just going to do it all from scratch this time [13:53] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:53] generic contains some debug and weird stuff as well [13:54] its config file was incomplete [13:54] just about everything was turned off, I thought it looked weird [13:54] heh [13:55] trying to configure Katapult, and getting this error http://pastebin.com/B9vB2eBr. Cant figure what the --prefix should be. [13:55] why did the generic config have selinux enabled? [13:57] completely random stuff enabled in generic conf :) [13:57] what is the correct way to configure python on apache? should i setup a mine with .py ? [13:57] *mime [13:58] troy: I live close to Germany so yeah come on ;-) [13:58] fortunev, you need option for kde libs, --prefix should be something else? [13:58] mugwort13 (mugwort13@pool-108-12-162-216.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [13:58] |Slacker| (~cris@200.134.25.13) joined ##slackware. [13:58] fortunev, look at /usr/lib/kde4 [13:58] alienBOB: dude, where do you live anyway :P [13:58] troy: NL [13:58] alienBOB: I'll chat promo in /msg - cool? [13:59] Fine with me... are you high at the moment? [13:59] no, but I'm drinking in the afternoon... 2pm here and my second pint is going down smooth [13:59] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:59] frimer (frimer@szluug.org) left ##slackware. [14:01] poor alien [14:02] indeed. life of a sales guy, drinking at 2pm on a weekday [14:03] well you gotta do something to forget about being on your knees all morning [14:03] RLa: so your saying it's not the --prefix option I need to configure? [14:04] delt0r (~delt0r@178-191-75-182.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [14:05] thrice`: well, life of a uni student really :) [14:05] not paying enough student fees, it seems [14:05] thrice`: my task for the day is to submit an abstract to the american geophysical union fall meeting [14:06] I guess I'd be drinking too [14:06] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:07] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad [14:07] thrice` wouldnt come in here and annoy folks with some lame ass assignment as an excuse to drink [14:07] cryptonoia (~cryptonoi@ip72-205-14-129.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] I think I annoy most people enough as is ;) [14:09] oh nevermind i figured out my error, apparently i cannot type .config without a typeo [14:09] adrien (~adrien@nautica.notk.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:09] so I copied the generic config file to /usr/src/linux/.confg [14:09] adrien (~adrien@nautica.notk.org) joined ##slackware. [14:09] ur engrish sucks lol [14:09] Action: KaMii bangs head [14:10] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:10] kickback: im Swedish [14:10] smörebröd rampampam, KaMii ... ;) [14:10] not everyone on here is an American [14:10] i'm not either [14:11] jordgubbe you understand, KaMii ;) you ... must [14:11] japp [14:11] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] but this is an english language only channel [14:11] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] fortunev, but did it work with --prefix option? [14:12] jg71: not an assignment - no classes anymore - grad student :) [14:12] aw, knulla. err i mean you are right, KaMii [14:12] fortunev, or run ./configure --help [14:13] maybe it says what's the correct option name for kde lib location [14:15] can you boot a cd-rom from lilo? [14:15] holy shit 20 minutes and my kernel still isnt compiled [14:16] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:16] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:17] ferdna, no, you boot it from your optical drive [14:18] thrice`, i have a problem [14:18] my cd-rom doesnt work [14:18] that is a problem, ferdna [14:18] tried a usb stick yet [14:18] and i was wondering that maybe i could boot from a usb cd rom device [14:18] you can if your bios lets you [14:18] sure, but that's a bios thing, not lilo :> [14:18] however bios doesnt support booting from usb [14:19] so i thought maybe i could boot from lilo [14:19] you can but not from usb then. [14:19] anything else that i can do? [14:19] ok now it compiling the kernel I want [14:20] i've heard that "easy boot" or something like that will allow you to boot from external usb device [14:20] ferdna, a laptop? [14:20] yes [14:20] see how fast these 6 cores can compile the kernel [14:20] KaMii, i have 8 cores [14:20] lilo must be on some hdd your bios can boot from. you can have the system on some usb hdd then, no biggie, but the booting part has to come from some hdd. [14:20] ferdna: i doubt i even need the 6 [14:20] mine is just two cores [14:20] why not get an el cheapo cdrom ... [14:21] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.63.208.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:21] don't you need special option for make to enable parallel builds? [14:21] ferdna: what chip do you have? [14:21] -j or what it was [14:21] RLa: make -jN [14:21] yes RLa [14:21] where N is the number of threads ou want [14:21] KaMii, i7 975 EE [14:21] not each app lives peacefully with -jNathan tho. [14:21] i thought the i7 were only 6 cores [14:22] thats an apple pun, KaMii [14:22] KaMii, it is a dual quad core [14:23] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:23] core2quad then [14:23] oh ok, [14:23] oooops, KaMii... [14:23] http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=37153 [14:23] 4 cores, 8 threads [14:23] because I have never heard of an oct-core chip [14:24] i have a single core celeron :) [14:24] mcfly brought some along, KaMii ... you know [14:24] RLa, i'll die on that [14:24] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-51.tamulink.tamu.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:24] well this was a huge upgrade from my single core AMD [14:25] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] 800MHz and 128MB of ram is generally more than i ever need [14:25] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [14:25] i probably never upgrade as long as hardware works [14:25] well this lappy is pentium 90 with 64 megs of ram [14:25] for running foo, maybe, for compiling it's a nightmare [14:25] RLa, lol... hope your HW dies... right now... so you get something better [14:25] jg71: indeed it is [14:26] my head hurts! this config mess is kickin my tail. [14:27] fortunev: what are you trying to do? [14:27] 800Mhz is fine with 2GB ram [14:27] AndroUser2 (~androirc@132.sub-97-251-50.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:27] jg71: still trying to configure Katapult. still getting the same kde prefix error. [14:27] machine is slow when it swaps [14:27] fortunev: ah sorry cant help [14:28] i got a 486/66 dx2 with 24mb of ram hosting irc, dns and apache [14:28] yay [14:28] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:28] and a 20mb hd [14:28] jg71: i've had my fill for the day anyway thanks tho [14:28] KaMii, http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5772/8cores.jpg [14:28] getting rid of X is the wisest thing i've done in a while [14:28] 20mb or 20 gb? [14:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:29] this is back from 1991 [14:29] and its still running [14:29] 20mb [14:29] i thought 200mb, but its only 20 [14:29] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [14:29] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] i have considered everything too old that cannot store full slackware installation [14:30] 200mb with 20mb being non-bad sectors :) [14:30] cant be a maxtor ... [14:31] i built this machine before slackware had whole numbered versions [14:31] my cellphone has more than 20 mb [14:31] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] so goes my gps [14:31] my tv remote has more than 20mb [14:31] my mom has more than 20 mb [14:31] if i turn it off it may never turn back on tho [14:31] oh wait... nevermind [14:32] Skywise: i'm sure it doesnt even have a cooling fan [14:32] but machine are seriously overpowered now [14:32] nope, only fan is in the power supply [14:33] i don't think the cpu gets hot enough to melt butter [14:33] yeah shit was cooler back in the day [14:34] Action: troy is now the kde branding police :P [14:34] i remember even some p3's were without fan cooling [14:34] hard to get a speeding ticket on a tricycle [14:34] Nick change: troy -> troy-kde-brandin [14:34] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.42) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Nick change: troy-kde-brandin -> troy [14:34] putting fans on a cpu was controversial at the time [14:34] Action: ananke hopes we'll get back to fanless cpus [14:34] a heatsink was enough [14:35] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [14:35] i'd prefer passive cooling too [14:35] mac only used fans on power pcs for the most part [14:35] but their whole case was a chimney for the cpu heat [14:35] intel's atom works well without fans [14:36] i have a fetish for netbooks [14:36] and it consumes less power than my 266mhz ~_~ [14:37] why does a TV remote even need 5mb? [14:37] i'm sure the 486 is the least efficient machine i have, but it doesn't use much power overall [14:37] i have a multifunction remote that can learn and run scripts [14:38] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) joined ##slackware. [14:38] for what? hacking the satellite network? [14:38] when i'm away, i have it randomly change channels or turn on the radio, as if i was home [14:38] KaMii: built-in LCD with gameboy hardware [14:38] it can control 8 devices [14:38] lol, wow... [14:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:38] KaMii:try a big multi-function remote. today's remotes are not like what you had in 1975 [14:38] men and their remote controls [14:38] Skywise: cool story bro [14:38] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:38] KaMii: this has nothing to do with gender, but thanks for playing [14:39] right out of stepford wives or however its spelled [14:39] its a memorex cp-8 but they have newer versions now [14:39] Skywise: how much does it cost? [14:40] KaMii: look up any logitech harmony [14:40] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:40] howdy [14:40] its arfon [14:40] those big multifunction remotes are expensive [14:40] arfon: i finally got all the parts for my new computer (They shipped the wrong ram) [14:40] I't me! [14:40] it wasn't that expensive, less then $50 i think [14:40] so welcome to KaMii's 1 million questions night [14:41] ..and is is running yet KaMii ? [14:41] mako-sama: yep. these days i prefer to match equipment from the same manufacturer [14:41] well ya, just configuring the kernel.... again [14:41] ananke: it'd be great if you had the choice :P [14:41] Action: ananke has two remotes: receiver & mac mini. they control everything [14:41] Pfft! Just go with Huge SMP [14:41] haha [14:42] Action: jg71 watches the diapers unfold ... nice trick, ananke [14:42] but i need the WoW kernel patch remember [14:42] jg71: you're not making any sense [14:42] You kernal tweakers are funny [14:42] ananke: indeed. on your expenses [14:42] jaminja_ (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Oh yeah. :( [14:43] jg71: again, no sense whatsoever [14:43] Is the kernel patching done yet? [14:43] ananke: i know, and it's not gonna change anytime soon. you said "everything" and ppl will take that literally. [14:43] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:45] Can anyone give me the magic line to put in a slackbuild to apply a patch (again)? [14:45] abracadabra [14:45] Roin (~florian@p5B2BEDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Didn't work mancha [14:46] maybe I need to yell it at the computer... [14:46] Action: troy does a little mid-afternoon-drinking dance [14:46] did you sprinkle the magic dust first? [14:47] nope, just pissed off my co-workers... anyone else? [14:47] Nooo, good idea... brb [14:48] patch -p1 < $CWD/xc286-smallfixes.diff [14:49] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:49] xchat patches, ftw [14:49] xchat for gui, irssi for cli. [14:49] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [14:50] arfon: pissed off coworkers make for a good resume. cant stand those "can get along with everyone" types... [14:50] you kick em in the butt and they say thank you. [14:50] wth [14:50] I'm out of magic dust, will instant coffee work? [14:50] That looks right clavius [14:50] the cammand to manually patch it is patch -p1 patch.patch [14:50] Channel flood from arfon -- kicking [14:50] the cammand to manually patch it is patch -p1 command even [14:50] arfon kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:50] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [14:51] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl5-205-216.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:51] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:51] hiptobecubic^ (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:53] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:53] flood? [14:53] Did I just flood? [14:53] yes [14:53] slackboy has kicked arfon from ##slackware (flood) [14:53] Yes arfon. Quickly too. [14:53] How? I was on another screen... [14:54] Stupid one-click putty paste [14:54] five lines in a row is considered flood if within 60 seconds (usually) [14:54] kickback (~Unknown@122.161.90.134) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:54] PFFT! That's my usual chat! [14:54] slackboy can only detect floods based on its own input. If it saw 4 lines from you within one second, you're kicked. [14:55] Just call me Flashfingers [14:55] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [14:55] IOW, it could have been some slowness/lag in slackboy's input stream. [14:55] 5 lines in 1 second, it was either a paste or network lag [14:55] (or someone with more words than brains) [14:55] Had to be a putty one-click paste [14:55] arfon: well, you can have fast finger and type longer lines instead of many short ones :) [14:55] I was going to another screen to go to slackware.com [14:56] <--hate runon sentences :) [14:56] hates even [14:56] jaminja_ (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:57] on man, I'm scared to type a 4th line.... someone post something. [14:57] Slow down arfon. [14:57] arfon take your ritalin! [14:57] arfon [14:57] I am suffering from the lag beast today... Making my life hell [14:57] we can't keep you from flooding by typing more [14:58] its only your lines per second that count [14:58] Wow, this conversation sounds like a cry for help from me... :P [14:58] Skywise, do you use awk / sed often? [14:58] duz [14:58] not if i can help it [14:59] whats up? [14:59] anyone knwo what encryption, if any, is used from skype client to skype server (chat not phone call)? [14:59] Action: arfon likes Skywise's answer [14:59] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:59] Skywise, we are now learning sed / awk and I am wondering how much importance it has. Seems pretty important because it's our last chapter. [14:59] And the tests are considerably harder. [15:00] they're very powerful and thus dangerous and are best copied from someone else's work and adapted [15:00] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.35.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:00] Yep. [15:00] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [15:00] Action: arfon likes Skywise's answer again [15:01] whoot! i'm on a roll [15:01] :] [15:01] Just don't get flodd kicked. [15:01] Action: troy hangs arfon a chill pill [15:01] Who stole my spell checker? [15:02] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.85.42) joined ##slackware. [15:02] i'm thottled at 3 lines per second [15:02] :) MMmmm chill pills [15:02] blah now what did I do wrong, it cant find my IDE HDD [15:03] can fdisk -l? [15:03] aha, a proprietary protocol that uses aes-256 for the communication with rsa-1024 used to generate the aes keys. [15:03] nope [15:03] in case anyone else was wondering as i was. [15:03] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.63.208.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:03] musta turned it off on the kernel settings, but not sure which device it is [15:04] Did you compile disk support in as a module instaed of making it a part of the kernel (that bit me years ago)? [15:04] probably, if I did, where is the module located? [15:05] the IDE HDD is only a backup so I wont even mount it very often [15:05] I haven't recompile a kernel since SATA came along, I have no idea which modules handle that now. :( [15:06] it used to be ATA Disk something or other [15:06] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [15:06] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [15:06] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [15:06] i dont remember turning any ATA stuff off [15:06] yeah you can enable legacy device names for the hda devices if you want [15:06] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [15:06] muumi (~kimmo@dyn2-212-50-134-176.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:06] otherwise they're all sdX now [15:06] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [15:06] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [15:06] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [15:07] well fdisk -l does not see it [15:07] either i need to turn on a module or recompile again [15:07] does it show any other devices you didn't expect? [15:07] id rather have that as a module [15:08] no just the 160 gig and my 1 TB [15:08] or you could put it in an external case and mount it via usb [15:08] i could, but I dont want to [15:08] not yet [15:08] my external enclosure is louder than a 747 on takeoff [15:10] but you wouldn't have to use it often [15:13] Better solution would be to go back to menuconfig and double check what you selected.... [15:13] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:14] maduser (~kevin@rpi-wl-1090.dynamic.rpi.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:14] ya, well im booting up huge kenrnel now and seeing if it works in there [15:15] trone_ (~sim@host33-25-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:15] and I see it [15:15] so its my custom kernel again, as usual [15:17] cryptonoia (~cryptonoi@ip72-205-14-129.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:17] hrm... nvidia module problems now [15:17] i installed the NVIDIA x64 kernel module, now I get tons of errors [15:17] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [15:17] I told it to also install the 32 bit libraries [15:18] it says it failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module [15:18] trone (~sim@host123-21-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:18] tr0n3 (~androirc@94.163.77.125) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Did you use nvidia's driver? [15:20] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-131-140.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [15:20] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:20] yes [15:20] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:20] direct off their website [15:21] did you enabled module loading support? [15:21] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Hmmm, that one always works for me [15:21] I'm running it on my 64b desktop even [15:22] maduser (~kevin@rpi-wl-1090.dynamic.rpi.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:22] It's hard to install slackware not like other have many option to partition and can see detial and selecting as we want [15:22] RLa: im on the HUGE kernel now, so everything should be enabled [15:23] Iraqi: fidsk then p [15:23] tr0n3 (~androirc@94.163.77.125) left irc: Quit: Bye [15:23] Mowah (1000@c-9984e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:23] geckos (~geckos@187.37.19.17) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Iraqi: use another liveCD for partioning, thats what I did on one of my machines to be able to dualboot [15:23] And when asking other disk or quite packages will go to terminal and will not finish install [15:23] I'm searching for a flash file system, I find logfs but seams discontinued, any suggestion? Where more I can ask? [15:23] Iraqi: like Parted Magic [15:24] lotec (lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:24] Roin which live cd? [15:24] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [15:24] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] Iraqi: Parted Magic has everything you need, namely gparted [15:24] Damn spell checker... fdisk /dev/sda then P [15:24] RLa (~RL@infdot.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:24] Iraqi: http://partedmagic.com/ [15:25] arfon: fdisk cant shrink partitions :( [15:25] I know i have the best software is Paragon in windows but problem in install not show me where will install slackware [15:25] Real men get it right the first time Roin (or we lie about it) [15:25] ok i think i see the problem, i installed the module on my custom kernel, so when I booted into HUGE apparently it cant access the nvidia module [15:26] didnt know that [15:26] @.@ [15:26] THAT would explain it KaMii [15:26] Nick change: geckos -> geckos_ [15:27] I want select partition second ext3 how i do that? Because first is bt [15:27] Pfft, the lag monster has bitten my butt and won't let go. [15:27] I made it in windows this second [15:27] ok im going to murder the firefox devs now [15:27] it fails to import my bookmarks [15:28] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:28] Iraqi, are you installing Slackware or an application? [15:28] KaMii: Xmarks is your friend [15:28] Slackware [15:29] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Iraqi: you are running setup? [15:30] Now i left by press power off because in time install was still show windows installing and typing gone to terminal [15:31] Same like is hard [15:31] Becareful about typing during setup because the keyboard buffer is active and you will type ahead... [15:32] geckos_ (~geckos@187.37.19.17) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:32] I left it [15:32] Iraqi: Did you already set up your partitions? [15:32] Iraqi, al-salam alaykum, min wayn Iraq? [15:32] How is your disk partitioned? [15:33] 3'DE %1'B2 [15:34] I create ext3 for slackware by os windows and when reboot and insert slackware is show me target partition but in list not show me detial partition to i can select this one i want [15:34] -_- Just another person with a Middle Eastern name or reference. Be back later [15:35] Walikum al salam warhmtaullah [15:35] Man irbil [15:35] Apparently he doesn't speak taiwanese riss [15:35] [looks around] [15:35] arfon, that's Arabic. [15:35] Taiwanese would be Chinese / Mandarin, simple as that. [15:35] arfon, he understood me, he greeted me correctly. :] [15:35] wut? [15:36] Anta man ain? [15:36] You have one physical disk in your machine Iraqi ? [15:36] durka [15:36] thats all [15:36] Arfon your mean? [15:36] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:37] Riss, I'm lagged like a turtle crawling across a glue trap. [15:37] Iraqi, come to ##arabic / ##islam. Min wayn sharq America. [15:37] poor turtle [15:37] No Iraqi, I'm just playing with riss [15:37] come #leave [15:37] -_- [15:38] Is there channel arabic? [15:38] Yes. ##arabic :p [15:38] A few people can help you, but some just left to masjid. [15:38] Miss you not arabic and know lanuage arabic that is good [15:39] I gotta go real quickly to turn off the fire but I can help you slowly if you go in there. [15:39] Iraqi, shukran. :) [15:39] Inshallah etaqbal Allah salathum [15:39] 3-C1'F [15:39] Al afo [15:39] Skywise: :) [15:40] ?? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? [15:40] :o [15:40] Iraqi, some I don't understand, it's clear you have some dialect in there. I only did formal Arabia so bear with me if I am confused at a few of your words. :p [15:40] Even better if you could type in Arabic, I can understand you better than if you did transliteration. [15:40] Al 7in ana bal mobile adrdesh 3ndama adkhol bal 7asub ra7 idkh al-qanat [15:40] O___O [15:40] Action: deco hugs nix_chix0r [15:40] All I understood was 7 inch [15:41] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-96-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:41] arfon, if you see letters like 3, that's the pronounciation fo ayn and ghyn in Arabc. [15:41] Sorry now i using cellphone to chat when fix my laptop i will join channel [15:41] SInce there is no way to type ayn in Arabic (as close to it) we use 3. [15:41] Ah, gets out his ISO charset..... [15:41] 7 = h [15:41] I guess. Or just using English keyboard. [15:42] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:42] Unicode FTW [15:42] hai deco [15:42] Ya. The word kh, ayn, and ghyn are really really really hard to pronounce for me. Even though I know Chinese and some other language, Arabic is truly unique. [15:42] Iraqi, take it to ##arabic if you ahve issues this isn't arabic 101 in ##slackware [15:42] arfon: whats Xmarks? [15:42] [15:43] i have the json file that firefox made when I exported my stuff but it wont import [15:43] Xmarks is a FF addon that saves your bookmarks (on thier server or your server) and allows to to sync them across machines [15:44] It even backs them up so you can revert if you need to. [15:44] Nix if you want i leave here just tell me not want find reason to leave? just say and i will do.... [15:44] Marverick (~Marverick@201.86.179.239.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:44] stunix (1000@85.19.141.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:45] Action: KaMii is now in multilib mode [15:45] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [15:48] Gawd, multi-KaMiis..... [15:48] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Iraqi, just ignore nix. [15:49] cryptonoia (~cryptonoi@ip72-205-14-129.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] arfon: but does it allow you to backup to their server and merge the differences between several json files? [15:49] that's what I would like [15:49] Yes [15:49] Xmarks in the FF addons [15:50] it's VERY nice [15:50] can someone else confirm that the slackbuilds website is down? [15:50] IS THAT what's going on!?! [15:50] [08-31] 15:46:35 < mwalling> !down slackbuilds.org [15:50] [08-31] 15:46:41 < linbot> mwalling: It's not just you! [15:50] I have been trying to get there for the past 30mins [15:50] is there a mirror? [15:50] hmm - sbopkg hangs on sync, so I would say yes [15:51] well poopoo [15:51] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [15:51] arfon: is there a way to get my json file to actually import into ff? [15:51] :( I've been trying to get the rtorrent and libtorrent slackbuild URLs.... [15:51] or can i somehow open it and look at it? [15:52] select bookmarks -> manage bookmarks -> restore [15:52] cryptonoia (~cryptonoi@ip72-205-14-129.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:52] Don't know KaMii, Last time I manually handled FF Bookmarks, it was a flat file... [15:52] now if I could get restore to merge rather than replace [15:52] Stinkin db now' [15:52] ..what in the heck is wrong with a flat file!?!?! [15:52] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:53] alisonken1home: that wont help, im pulling this json file from my other computer, which is now just a mobo, processor, ram and one HDD so I cant really get into it, no video card, and not sure how I can get ff up and running to make a new backup without pulling cards out of my new comp [15:53] even the flat file doesn't merge easy in ff :) [15:53] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:53] Kamii, is you other computer still working? [15:53] yes, I just dont have it plugged in, turned on or wired up [15:54] it has that tightvnc installed [15:54] Plug it in, load xmarks, save you local bookmarks to their server then load Xmarks on your new machine and DL the bookmarks [15:54] i dont have xmarks [15:54] does xmarks require ff t be running? [15:54] that's her problem atm [15:54] load Xmarks [15:54] alisonken1home, yeah, it does. [15:55] why? start FF then load xmarks [15:55] well i need to configure tightvnc, startx and load ff all from ssh [15:55] Action: fire|bird uses FF Sync vs Xmarks :) [15:55] arfon: look at her 12:51:22 note to me [15:55] ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/slackbuilds.org/ <-- you could always use the files there. [15:57] alisonken1home: I wasn't on then... :( I was busy disecting a double pepperoni pizza for processing. [15:58] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [15:58] arfon: "it's now just a mobo, processor, ram and one hdd" [15:58] ohhhh i need file permissions to access the json file [15:58] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:58] thats my problem [15:58] that's why she can't use xmarks on the older system [15:59] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:59] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-49-228.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Ah... okay, note for future.... install xmarks [16:00] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [16:00] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:00] A spare mobo, processor and RAM eh? Sounds like a webserver just screaming to happen to me.... [16:00] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-40-253.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:00] OpenTTD server FTW! [16:01] or a fileserver [16:01] local media streamer fileserver [16:01] Did I gloat to you guys about my 3ware 8 drive card I picked up???? [16:01] arfon: we've had issues with 3ware cards in our noc [16:02] areca's seem to be better for our use [16:02] Action: arfon doesn't want to hear that [16:02] Nick change: hiptobecubic^ -> hiptobecubic [16:02] unless you're webhost, you probably don't have the same issue :) [16:02] didnt know I needed rw permissions to import a json file [16:02] but apparently you do [16:02] RickBuzzly (~rickbuzzl@166.205.137.123) joined ##slackware. [16:02] jlarrew (~WallRat00@32.97.110.59) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Nah, my webserver is running off plain 'ol IDE.... [16:02] at least read permissions I would think [16:03] Nothing on there worth a damn [16:03] jlarrew (~WallRat00@32.97.110.59) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:03] arfon: http://www.dreamhost.com [16:03] arfon: thats my idea to turn that into a webserver [16:03] jlarrew (~WallRat00@32.97.110.59) joined ##slackware. [16:03] You work for dreamhost ken? [16:03] yep [16:03] Nice.... [16:04] do they offer free hostings? [16:04] noc monkey - and we're in the process of installing new racks [16:04] KaMii: depends - are you a registered non-profit organization? :) [16:04] <-- I run ArfonsHonestDiskountHosting :) [16:04] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [16:04] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:05] KaMii is poor, she's DEFINITELY non-profit [16:05] Action: KaMii IS a non-profit [16:05] haha [16:05] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [16:05] heh - that's why the "registered" note [16:05] uhh, no im not registered [16:05] Damn, foiled by the details [16:05] but you could register me *wink* *wink* [16:06] ugh, im dead in the water until slackbuilds gets back online [16:06] http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting-nonprofit.html [16:06] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/niko) left irc: Changing host [16:06] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [16:06] KaMii: What do you want hosting for??? You have a spare mobo, cpu and ram now. [16:06] KaMii: did you see BP{k}'s note about an alternate slackbuild backup site? [16:07] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: @Out [16:07] no i missed it [16:07] ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/slackbuilds.org/ <-- you could always use the files there. [16:07] ah found it [16:07] AndroUser2 (~androirc@17.sub-174-201-160.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] BP{k}: one of these nights get slackware.dreamhost.com to mirror slackbuilds.org too [16:09] alisonken1home: :) [16:09] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.128.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:10] RickBuzzly (~rickbuzzl@166.205.137.123) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:10] alisonken1home: good idea [16:10] 13.1 repo is around 85mb [16:10] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:10] not much trouble [16:11] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:11] Guest83741 (~titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:12] dngr (~dngr@n11649134056.netvigator.com) left irc: Excess Flood [16:12] puffster (puffy@cpe-68-174-62-74.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:13] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/linux_vulnerability_fix/ <<--- Linux is for dumb bitches [16:13] Could some nice person with a readable display please give me the URL for the actual rtorrent and libtorrent slackbuild tar.gz? [16:13] real and intelligent men use *BSD [16:13] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 puffy-kernel#0 i386 [16:13] w00tster ! [16:14] Doesn't this one have a ban? Why not? [16:14] alienBOB: ^^ [16:14] Who pulled his string? [16:14] Duumys are supposed be be quiet and in the toy box. [16:14] phrag: ^^ [16:14] Alan_Hicks: ^^ [16:14] rworkman: ^^ [16:14] openbsd is for sissies [16:14] alisonken1home: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ [16:15] arfon: ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/slackbuilds.org/13.1/network/rtorrent.tar.gz [16:15] ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/slackbuilds.org/13.1/libraries/libtorrent.tar.gz [16:15] sorry arfon ^ [16:15] TY TY TY TY [16:15] btw, that libtorrent segfaults on configure [16:15] oh you said slackbuild [16:15] thrice Linuxx is forr mentally retarded chimpanzeess who ate too many lead paint chips as babies [16:15] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:15] I appreciate the effort though sahko :) [16:15] don't know how paranoid you all are, but something segfaulting as root gives me the willies [16:15] ok IrquiM leave [16:15] arfon: :) [16:15] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/linux_vulnerability_fix/ <-- mental retardation [16:16] puffster: linux supports hardware, bsd does not :-) [16:16] what is this about, the linux memory heap thing? yeah it is (was) a big deal [16:17] Screamer it only matters if you are dumb enough to buy that hardware also Linux drivers are half-ass piss poor quality on average [16:17] how will I know if a program is 32 or 64 bit? or compiling purposes [16:17] puffster: now I know where you get your nick from [16:17] screamer at least BSD drivers are high qality [16:17] Marverick (~Marverick@201.86.179.239.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [16:17] All the recent slackbuilds I have seen autodetects KaMii [16:17] s/or/for [16:17] puffster: whats about watching tv with dvb? [16:17] don't feed the troll [16:17] KaMii: "file " will tell you if it's a 32-bit or 64-bit and whether it's shared libs or static [16:17] s/qality/quality/ [16:17] ScreamerX: please do not feed trolls. [16:18] ya but dont I need to put my terminal in 32 mode if its a 32 bit prog [16:18] Screamer TV is for idiots I read books on my ssonyy prs-600 [16:18] Screamer I don't watch TV [16:18] ebooks on my sony prs-600 is where it is at [16:18] no TV [16:19] AndroUser2 (~androirc@17.sub-174-201-160.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:19] bsd sucks [16:19] puffster, as i said: bsd does not support any hardware [16:19] get over it [16:19] silly thrice` [16:19] :P [16:20] Screamer yeah it doesn't support any hardware that is why I am not using it on my laptop right now [16:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b puf*!puf*@cpe-68-174*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:20] puffster kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Back into the loony bin [16:20] puffster, does bluetooth work? [16:20] Bye now [16:20] :-( [16:21] Ahhh, the attention-ho is gone... :( [16:21] and i was looking for some fun [16:21] ScreamerX, you can still pm him if you want [16:21] hmm- hvc.res.rr.com sounds familiar [16:21] That's funny! [16:22] PMing a troll :) [16:22] i/me sniffs out puff [16:22] awww [16:22] baibai [16:22] He will welcome all your private attention [16:22] haha [16:23] How can I finish my patch-build script if you guys keep making me laugh!?! [16:23] EgonSpengler (puffy@cpe-68-174-62-74.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] slackboy you retard cannot even set a proper ban that is because linux is for dumb bitches [16:23] lol [16:23] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/linux_vulnerability_fix/ < -- linux is for dumb bitches [16:24] AND He's back! [16:24] hurrra! [16:24] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 puffy-kernel#0 i386 [16:24] does it make any sense to follow this link? [16:24] EgonSpengler, does bluetooth work on your laptop? [16:24] opensd is for the elite [16:24] jesus @.@ [16:24] opensd? [16:24] whats dat? O_O [16:24] Roin www.openbsd.org [16:24] el reg article about the old linux kernel vulnerability that wasn't [16:25] thats something diffrent EgonSpengler [16:25] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [16:25] EgonSpengler, of course its dumb to use a mobile phone :-P [16:25] you have to have physical access and an account on the machine to exploit it [16:25] alisonken1home not if you combine it with another exploit [16:25] Linux is full of insecure bugs [16:25] EgonSpengler, is bsd able to burn cds? [16:25] ##slackware: mode change '-b+b puf*!puf*@cpe-68-174*.hvc.res.rr.com *!puf*@cpe-68-174*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:25] EgonSpengler kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Ban evading ass-hat [16:25] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [16:26] if you combine it with another exploit, you have BSD [16:26] He'll be back again [16:26] wow trolls come to live in here today [16:26] Aww [16:26] :D [16:26] i didn't even get to ask them to cyber [16:26] Keep the channel clean please [16:26] if you reall wanna get rid of him, just call him a bot [16:26] it makes him mad [16:26] haha ok [16:26] should the ban look like: *!*@cpe-68-174-*.hvc.res.rr.com ? [16:26] BSDbot? [16:26] i don't know why, but it cracks me up [16:26] ...wow that was interesting! [16:27] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:27] or tragic [16:27] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Roin: that might affect others on that ISP [16:27] nix_chix0r, i am a bot and i can cyber [16:27] oh ok [16:27] stunix (1000@85.19.141.75) joined ##slackware. [16:28] lotec, oh cool [16:28] doesn't interest me though [16:28] im afraid, EgonSpengler is cybering me :-/ [16:28] that's good, you dont interest me either [16:28] :D [16:28] alienBOB: I usually ban those people like: *!*@cpe-68-174-62-74.hvc.res.rr.com but thats probably not much better than the actual ._. [16:28] Have fun with that ScreamerX :) [16:29] Action: ScreamerX jumps around [16:29] I swear to God, I was laughing so hard, I thought for sure my boss would notice.... [16:30] LOL [16:30] Roin: intelligent trolls switch dynamic IPs within their ISP's range [16:30] BSD-Ereet (BSD-Ereet@cpe-68-174-62-74.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:30] You guys are gonna get me fired. [16:30] I'd kee adding ban lines [16:30] slackboy is a dumb linux bitch [16:30] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F5E5F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] here comes that dumb bot again [16:30] rinse repeate [16:30] arfon, sorry [16:30] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Quit: :) [16:30] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/linux_vulnerability_fix/ << -- Linux is for dumb bitches [16:30] lol [16:30] freelibrary, hi bot! [16:30] LOL [16:30] It's okay, I hate this job anyway [16:30] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 puffy-kernel#0 i386 [16:30] w00t ! [16:30] alienBOB: I know, it is worse sometimes and I really dont know how to get rid of them for good [16:31] *!*@cpe-68-174-62-74.hvc.res.rr.com would be safe [16:31] for now anyway [16:31] someone needs to get that bsdbot some new material [16:31] and boring [16:31] Yeh, I'll ban the ISP this time [16:31] Who invited BSDbot back? [16:31] we've heard all these lines before [16:31] rob0 your mothers pussy is safe I tried it [16:31] diseasee free [16:31] Action: Alan_Hicks pops in. Troll trouble? [16:31] disease free rather [16:31] Alan_Hicks: yar [16:31] trol or bot - what's the difference? [16:31] Alan_Hick you mentally retarded linux chimp [16:31] an element in the kline? [16:31] bots arent as annoying because they are forced to do bad stuff alisonken1home :( [16:32] *g* [16:32] a troll is intelligent, in some respect [16:32] alienBOB: You got this under control? [16:32] Skywise: debatable :) [16:32] all you get out of a bot are canned replies [16:32] depends on how the bot was programmed [16:32] eliza was pretty decent [16:32] ##slackware: mode change '-b+b *!puf*@cpe-68-174*.hvc.res.rr.com *!*@cpe-68*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:32] BSD-Ereet kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Annoying yes. Stupid for sure. Tragic ending imminent [16:32] hehe [16:32] Guess so. [16:32] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:32] wildcard ftw [16:32] ##slackware: mode change '-o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:33] Well one wildcard removed from banning all of hvc.res.rr.com [16:33] will i get an error if I try to make a 32 bit program when Im logged into a 64 bit terminal? [16:33] Wow, I like that nick... [16:33] Nick change: arfon -> LinuxChimp [16:33] KaMii: shoudln't [16:33] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-40-165.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:33] |Slacker| (~cris@200.134.25.13) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:33] hehe [16:33] im just trying to figure out how I know how to compile things across architechtures [16:33] its' the libs that count not the terminal [16:33] because i have no idea whats 32 and whats 64 [16:34] im soooo cornfused [16:34] don't be - like I said, it's the libs that count for 32/64 bit not the terminal interface [16:35] well I have multilibs installed and converted [16:35] KaMii: Is multilib needed for WOW? [16:36] yes, because you need wine [16:36] I compiled wine on my 64bit machine.... [16:36] and wine is 32 bit [16:36] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] dang - killed the troll/bot and the channel is quiet now [16:36] dont worry alisonken1home my night of a million questions just begane [16:36] wine is 64 bit as well [16:36] KaMii: I believe wine has a 64-bit port now - not sure how stable it is [16:36] Appetite (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [16:36] but you need 64 bit games [16:36] s/begane/began [16:37] im not running 64 bit wine, [16:37] yes wine has a x64 port [16:37] Bah! 64bit games? THAT's prolly why I can't get squat to run... [16:38] so since I have multilibs installed, I just run all my slackbuilds as normal? I dont have to do anything different? [16:38] because I thought I had to change my terminal to support 32, i dont get it [16:38] Roin (~florian@p5B2BEDC3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [16:38] talking of games anybody have an idea what I should do to make a game console out of a slackware machine? [16:38] read the multilib notes - you have to run a 32-bit shell script first to preset the compile environment [16:39] xovan: mame? [16:39] xovan: get the emulator compiled then create a menu for the games list [16:39] i was thinking of linux games actually [16:39] i did read it, about 10 times, and im scared [16:39] i was hooked on supertux for a long time [16:39] http://en.djl-linux.org/ [16:39] you see I can use qjoypad to make the joystick emulate a keyboard [16:40] KaMii: don't be - easy reading ad compiling [16:40] i have no idea what im doing, what if I compile a 64 bit program when im in a 32 bit terminal [16:40] {{{OpenTTD}}} [16:40] idk, i have no idea how to figure out what programs are 32 and what are 64 [16:40] KaMii: IGNORE THE TERMINAL [16:40] you don't have to worry about the terminal when compiling [16:41] but the wiki says i need to be in a 32 bit compatable terminal [16:41] why? [16:41] no - you need to run the 32bit bash script to precondition the compile environment [16:41] What does the terminal matter? [16:41] i feel like my head is going to explode [16:41] oh..... [16:41] KaMii: show me the link you read [16:41] alisonken1home: thanks I get it now [16:42] its alienBOBs wiki [16:42] ScreamerX, check, I have that running. Is there a way to add a custom joystick command then to invoke djl? [16:42] Action: ScreamerX doesnt use a joystick [16:42] v4nelle (~van@79.107.197.26) joined ##slackware. [16:43] so whenever i will compile anything I will just set my environment to 32 compat and i will be ok whether I compile 32 or 64 am I right? [16:44] you only set the 32-bit compat script when you want a 32-bit program. open a new terminal and DON"T run the 32-bit script when you want a 64-bit program [16:44] ok [16:45] i still dont know how I can figure out before if its 32 or 64 [16:45] after it's compiled? [16:46] before [16:46] read the notes [16:46] because some things compile in both 32 and 64 mode [16:46] if they compile in either mode, then just select what you want for the final binary [16:46] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] either compile it normally, or run the 32bit script before compiling if you want 64bit [16:47] duh - "run the 32bit script if you want 32bit program" [16:48] this is why x64 scares me [16:48] i64 rulez :-) [16:48] misanthrope (44ae3e4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.174.62.74) joined ##slackware. [16:48] well im getting problems already [16:48] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:49] i tried to compile something in 32 bit that I knows will compile in 32 bit but it gave me errors on the arch [16:49] imlib2 [16:49] and what is the exact error? [16:49] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/linux_vulnerability_fix/ << --- Linux is for mentally retarded chimpanzees who ate too many lead paint chips as babies [16:49] And what did you set the arch to? [16:50] Ah he is back again [16:50] OpenBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 4.7 puffy-kernel#0 i386 [16:50] w00t ! [16:50] Welcome to the BSD bot [16:50] the bot is back, but now he's gotta use a web client [16:50] its a sad day when a bot can't even use an open proxy anymore [16:51] hey poof is back [16:51] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway*/ip.68.174.62.74' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:51] misanthrope kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Enjoy yourself in the dark cold recesses of your mind [16:51] You know.. [16:51] He makes us real misanthropes look bad. [16:52] not everything has a NOTES file nor does everything tell me what architecture it can compile on [16:52] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:52] lol [16:52] KaMii: errors? [16:52] Logs? [16:52] ARCH? [16:52] KaMii: answer alienBOB - did you "export ARCH=i486" before trying to compile? [16:52] That would be wrong [16:52] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [16:53] alienBOB: ? [16:53] amd4_blend.s: error bad register name [16:53] i never exported anything [16:53] unless it was in the sbo [16:53] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [16:55] im trying to compile conky and all its dependencies, but I just dont know how to tell what is 64 and what is not, or what i am suppose to do, im totally lost [16:55] this was my biggest fear with going x64 [16:55] and you were right [16:55] but this is how you learn [16:56] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:56] go with 32bit until you have an all 64 bit solution [16:56] KaMii: why do you want to compile a 32-bit conky? [16:56] i dont know if conky is 64 or 32 [16:56] jaminja (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) joined ##slackware. [16:56] and i dont know what arch its dependencies are in [16:56] how do I check before compiling? [16:57] KaMii: source code does not care about architecture [16:57] You build sources for a particular architecture [16:57] Any architecture you want [16:57] but some, IE wine require 32 [16:57] s_eraph (s_eraph@141.30.28.157) joined ##slackware. [16:57] so how do I know? [16:57] KaMii: not quite [16:57] tekzilla (~jon@d033066.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:57] You want a 32-bit Wine so that you can play 32-bit Windows games [16:58] yes [16:58] But wine source compiles into a 64-bit binary easily [16:58] It's just that not many people care for 64-bit Windows binaries on Linux [16:59] oh, so basically the only thing I will want 32 is my wine and everything else will be 64 [16:59] s_eraph (s_eraph@141.30.28.157) left ##slackware. [16:59] correct [17:00] alisonken1home alienBOB thanks its starting to make sense now [17:00] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:01] KaMii: apart from wine, I can not think of many sources you would want to compile as 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit Linux OS [17:01] ognian (~ognian@80.80.146.180) joined ##slackware. [17:01] Perhaps nspluginwrapper so that you can install 32-bit proprietary browser plugins (like flash) on 64-bit Linux [17:03] or when you want to speed up compiling for the old 32-bit slackware you have installed on another machine :) [17:03] tekzilla (~jon@d099071.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:03] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [17:04] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-96-108.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: vivement Windows 8 [17:06] Action: dustybin fells off chair [17:06] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/2305142825_b24b98df97_o.jpg [17:07] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-202.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:08] s_eraph (s_eraph@141.30.28.157) joined ##slackware. [17:08] s_eraph (s_eraph@141.30.28.157) left ##slackware. [17:09] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:12] sometimes you will want to recompile a compat32 package from newer sources or something... for example, I upgraded my alsa-lib and alsa-lib-compat32 (used convertpkg-compat32)... it all works ok [17:13] Zordrak: are you in here? [17:13] linuxgoob (~npscholz@99.18.24.195) joined ##slackware. [17:13] for wine, it doesn't have a 64-bit package, so I didn't use convertpkg-compat32 on it [17:14] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [17:17] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [17:18] Hmmm, I issued the following command: patch -p1 < rtorrent-0.8.6-ip_filter_no_boost-fast.patch And it asked which file I want to patch... [17:18] I'm not sure what to tell it [17:19] Nick change: LinuxChimp -> arfon [17:19] arfon, tried -p0 ? [17:20] also, use --dry-run first time. [17:20] so as not to mess your sources if the patch does not apply well. [17:20] Right-o [17:21] I'll try it. [17:21] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [17:21] huffpuff (~matthew@h181.29.188.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:03] i never have easy question. i always ask questions, that i can't answer myslef, like "why the hell does ma amarok not work, even though everything concerning music and sound works perfectly?" [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424114.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] Doh! it's 5:00 somewhere! You guys have a good night! [18:04] Amaro is a piece of crap that does a lot of things not right [18:04] nite [18:04] take it easy [18:04] However a lot of people seem to like it ;-) [18:05] but juk does not work, too [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424114.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] i have to rely on audacious or xmms when playing music. [18:08] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:08] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:09] s_eraph (s_eraph@141.30.28.157) left ##slackware. 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[19:01] ramiroec (c86c8823@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.108.136.35) left irc: Quit: Page closed [19:01] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:02] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.131.50) joined ##slackware. [19:02] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-hqvikbqloeaahzcx) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-41-231-124.ip83.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [19:06] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:07] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [19:09] after changing /etc/exports and /etc/hosts.allow do I need to restart a service to get it to take? my client machine is getting a denied from the NFS server [19:11] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:11] KaMii: you don't, no. [19:12] hrm... so something else is blocking me [19:12] KaMii: albeit restarting the nfs deamon couldn't hurt. [19:12] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [19:13] thumbs: that worked [19:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:15] now, how can I get more than 18% of all 6 of my cores to be used when compiling? [19:15] wine should not be taking over 20 minutes to compile on a 3.2 GHz 6 core system [19:15] -j=3 i think? [19:15] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:15] or maybe its -j3 [19:16] oh, ya i should have changed the slackbuild script [19:16] or 6.... hmm... whatever. give j a bigger number than 1 to make more threads [19:16] well I did -j12 when I compiled the kernel and that took less than 5 minutes [19:16] huffpuff (~matthew@h181.29.188.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:18] only 12? i use 7 in a dual core [19:20] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:23] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-hqvikbqloeaahzcx) left irc: Excess Flood [19:23] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-yqvdpjjnmgmnjzau) joined ##slackware. [19:24] delt0r_ (~delt0r@188-22-169-39.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [19:24] subvdroid (~androirc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] hey guys.. i tried upgrading from13 to 13.1. using the how to from http://2cent-info.blogspot.com/2010/06/upgrade-to-slackware-131.html. i ii [19:25] delt0r (~delt0r@178-191-75-182.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:26] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:26] i got to the removepkg part. and didnt run the script for config files. when i reboot right after my lilo screen t goes blank. linux single mode gives the same. [19:26] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.174) joined ##slackware. [19:26] could it be that i need to rebuild lilo.. if so how do i do this. [19:27] you obviously searched the internet to find that article on how to upgrade. you can do the same to fix lilo [19:27] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:28] why is there always one of you to reply. the reason im in here is hecause i cant get into my machine to rebuild lilo. now will someone with zero attitudee and preferabbly an op respond. [19:29] doubt it [19:29] aubvdroid, how about use the slackware cd to boot the system? [19:29] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 241 seconds [19:30] ok. good idea.. was in the process of burning the image. [19:30] so then your on the right track [19:30] follow the cd, it tells u how [19:30] i hope lilo is the issue. [19:30] have a feeling its a kernel configuration [19:31] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [19:31] well then i hope you did not remove the old kernel, never remove the old kernal until you are sure it works [19:32] you also might have to edit lilo.conf too if it's not pointing your new kernel [19:32] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:32] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [19:32] or maybe lilo just needs to be reran [19:34] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:35] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:35] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:35] ognian (~ognian@80.80.146.180) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:36] it's going to need to be rerun reguardless i'd presume [19:36] only one way to find out :) [19:37] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [19:37] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:37] when in dought rm -rf :D [19:37] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. 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[20:35] on slack 12.2 is on /etc/modprobe.d/ [20:36] same in 13.1 [20:36] same place :> [20:36] name it bttv.conf or similar [20:36] hum [20:36] i need to create [20:36] thanks [20:36] yep [20:36] modprobe.d should exist already [20:37] right [20:37] Darlei (yo@85-197-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:37] geez its almost below freezing outside [20:37] BoatX (~lodka@pc-93-234.akademiki.uni.torun.pl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:38] jaminja_ (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [20:38] lol [20:38] Nick change: dead|dive -> dive [20:38] in brazil is burning outside [20:38] very hot -.-" [20:38] emma (~em@user-0ccemf4.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:38] emma (~em@user-0ccemf4.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Changing host [20:38] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [20:38] jaminja (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) left irc: Disconnected by services [20:39] Nick change: jaminja_ -> jaminja [20:41] neo2 (~anxu@60.20.54.182) joined ##slackware. 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[20:57] Anybody dual booting osx and slack 13.1 on a PowerBook? [20:58] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [21:02] i want to:( [21:06] qwebirc71225 (80523acd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.82.58.205) left irc: Quit: Page closed [21:09] Heh [21:09] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:09] darylc (~darylc@cpe-76-167-233-29.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: entering sleep mode [21:12] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Quit: .mirrorS arE morE fuN thaN televisoN [21:19] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) joined ##slackware. [21:22] el33t (Psychopath@unaffiliated/el33t) left irc: Quit: Occifer, I'm not as think as you stoned I am!   [www.t7ds.com.br] [21:23] I have too much anxiety, can anyone please help? [21:24] you could try drugs, but in the end its all in your head [21:24] do you know why your anxious? [21:25] Yes. [21:26] the most direct approach is to resolve the cause [21:27] Trying to but in the meantime I have anxiety and it's killing me. [21:27] sleeping on it helps [21:30] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:30] Can't, it'll ruin my sleeping schedule. I need to sleep. [21:30] I got told "I will never let you go no matter what, even if you tried to leave this relationship". [21:31] ewww [21:31] well, i just have one question and it requires an honest answer, do you feel safe? [21:31] Nick change: fire|zombie -> fire|bird [21:31] that sounds like a potential stalker, rhisa [21:32] Having lived much of my life under the shadow of a wacky stalker, I can tell you, it's not fun. [21:32] rob0, not a stalker atm, this person is my "significant other". [21:33] Skywise, dunno, probably not. [21:33] right, I gathered that, but damn ... that is not sounding healthy [21:33] if you are in danger you need to get real help [21:33] Damn I shouldn't have gotten into this relationship. [21:33] indeed [21:33] I had no idea, I never knew this person to be violent though. [21:34] being in a relationship does not confer ownership [21:35] rob0, you were stsalked by a girl? [21:35] and if you want out but can't leave, then you need help [21:35] "even if you tried to leave this relationship", saying in effect, no way out [21:35] I'm trying to leave this relationship. [21:35] stop trying [21:35] just do it [21:35] rhisa, wife's ex-husband, and he's still alive, so it's not over. [21:36] he needs to understand we don't always get our way in life, and you can't compel someone to be with you [21:36] Skywise, well, okay, tomorrow when my SO gets on, I will say "alright, it's over". [21:36] True. [21:36] really the sooner you get out, the better your chances are. Giving in to veiled threats like that is surely the wrong thing to do. [21:36] rob0, ugh, scary, I hate dealing with people who can't let go. [21:36] consider a battered women's shelter for help? [21:37] lots of people carry torches for ex's but they have to let it go [21:37] yeah, before you get battered [21:37] I doubt my SO can do anything, sincerely. [21:37] My SO is Egyptian, not even an American citizen yet (I don't think). [21:38] and to be honest, all most guys need is another love interest to take their mind off the past [21:38] well, thats a cultural thing too [21:38] his sensibilities aren't quite the same when it comes to women and relationships [21:39] i think if he had an authority figure explain reality to him, it could do a lot of good [21:39] Alright. I hope that works. [21:39] I just don't want to be demonized here. [21:39] relationships end, its just life [21:39] rhisa: give me his addy, ill go to his out [21:39] erm house [21:40] people make too big deal of it [21:40] but that perspective comes with experience [21:40] lotec, heh. [21:40] Thank you Skywise. Thank you rob0. [21:40] yw [21:40] Even if you don't go to the shelter, they can probably advise you. Good luck. [21:41] rhisa, end of the day. kep a bat close, have your dad come over [21:41] I have a pepper spray. [21:41] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:41] My SO isn't that brave. [21:42] you don't have to deal with it on your own, and you shouldn't try [21:42] I know. [21:42] nope call the cops, that is what they are for [21:42] but make sure your friends and family know whats going on [21:42] Yep. [21:43] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [21:44] whats a SO? [21:45] significant other [21:45] I will try to relax. [21:46] is there something wrong with the slackware torrents or something? [21:46] you're bound to be uncomfortable until the issue is settled [21:46] oh, wait, those are old [21:46] NaCl, I hear some servers are down. [21:46] rhisa, this is what i dont understand, was he a crazy fuck before you started dating? [21:46] lotec, no my SO was normal. [21:47] Went to my college too. [21:47] hum, just odd most people that are fucked up are usually show signs [21:47] no, he's just young with lots of pent up frustration [21:47] Ya. [21:48] you have to keep in mind the plight of arabic men [21:48] But being straight from Arabic, only been in US for about 4 years doesn't help with culture. [21:48] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:48] most will not get married or even see a woman unveild [21:48] and it causes great frustration [21:48] ok now i see the problem [21:48] Skywise, they will, it depends. The veil is exclusive to Afghanistan. [21:49] or a burka [21:49] Hijab covers up just the hair for example. [21:49] but most only see women at their wedding [21:49] The burka covers up the entire head except the eyes. [21:49] Oh no, you don't wear these veil at home. [21:49] for the first and last time [21:49] right [21:49] you only see your relatives [21:49] There is also something called niqab. [21:49] And khimar. [21:49] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [21:50] The media covers only hijab / burka. Burka is exclusive or mostly to Afghanistna. [21:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa#Afghanistan_and_Northwest_Pakistan [21:50] I've never seen the burka worn anywhere else. [21:51] In many countries, even ME countries it's banned. Like Syria (scroll down in that wiki to see for yourself). [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F54E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] my larger point is that, he's repressed and prolly doesn't have a good way to deal with his feelings [21:53] i think you're prolly one of the first people he's been with [21:54] and the first break up is always the hardest [21:54] guys tend to be puppy dogs with their first [21:54] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [21:54] wanna follow you everywhere, cause they've never had anything so good before [21:54] has there been any issues with network interfaces going nuts when there's a ton of connections at once? [21:54] but when you date, you realize its not so unique after all [21:55] patterns are noticed [21:55] Skywise, I am one of the first. [21:55] NaCl, using ktorrent? my network dies quite regularly when that software is loaded [21:55] he'll be ok once he finds someone else [21:55] and hopefully he'll turn it down a notch [21:56] thrice`: actually, any torrent software [21:56] transmission does the same thing [21:56] can you limit it? [21:56] it wasn't dowloading/seeding much at all [21:56] sounds like something is bugged in the kernel, maybe [21:57] goj (~goj@p5488F486.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:57] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:57] i don't use torrents [21:57] Action: NaCl was going to seed Slackware [21:57] i always get ripped off, my upload bandwidth gets pegged and my download is at 5k [21:58] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:58] Skywise, you're very wise in relationship, thank you. [21:58] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:58] I guess time heals this anxiety but I just wish it would go away now. [21:58] yeah, it's nasty [21:58] its something you gotta go thru to understand [21:59] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:59] Nick change: NetrixTardis -> netrixtardis [21:59] kamii thinks i don't understand women at all [22:00] lol [22:00] Skywise, you do. :) [22:00] kamii is like 16 I read. [22:00] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:00] I'm 23, I've been in this kind of situation before but each time it's different and it doesn't get any better. [22:00] yeah, she's a kid, thats why i don't get offended [22:00] The last time this happened I called the police. Freaking came from CT to NY just to stalk me. [22:01] it takes a while to understand that your feelings don't change how someone feels about you, no matter how strong you feel [22:01] but when you're young you think if you're really intense maybe you can [22:02] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:02] vishu (d2d41646@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.22.70) joined ##slackware. [22:02] he's prolly an ok guy, but just can't put things in perspective [22:02] vishu (d2d41646@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.22.70) left ##slackware. [22:03] Yup.. :( [22:03] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:05] rob0, I hope you are living without anxiety at least. [22:05] wow, north carolina is declaring mandatory evacuations for the barrier islands on wed at 5am [22:05] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:05] How come?? [22:05] that's not good [22:05] hurricane [22:06] hurrican earl is comming [22:06] they keep predicting it should turn north, but it keeps going west [22:06] I'm here in VA so I doubt i'll be effected by it [22:07] Amazing, I thought that dissolved already. What about NY? [22:07] jgeboski: famous last words [22:07] NaCI: yea no kidding [22:07] not until the weekend [22:07] jgeboski: tab completion is your friend [22:07] rhisa: i think new york has a hurricane watch [22:07] 'l' not 'I' [22:08] I don't think pidgin has that and i'm using it on this machine [22:08] Type something followed by a tab [22:08] like "NaC" [22:09] It would surprise me if they didn't have it [22:09] test [22:09] no go [22:09] type the start of a nick [22:09] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [22:09] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [22:09] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [22:09] it does [22:10] neat [22:10] :) [22:10] Now you know. :P [22:10] NaCl: :) [22:10] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:11] yea i am making the switch to pidgin [22:11] all my chats in one tabbed windows is handy [22:12] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:13] i need to try pidgin again [22:13] I use pidgin when the server I use dies [22:14] I've always used it just not for IRC but it seems nice [22:14] i am using adium now [22:14] its ok [22:14] pidgine is lacking "ignore" and some other useful irc features [22:14] in that case, use an actual IRC client [22:14] yea xchat is great [22:14] if i could fine a terminal one for OSX i would use that [22:14] but they all look like crap [22:15] i suppose i could do things the other way around and use bitlbee or something [22:15] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:15] lotec: there is reported a Mac OS terminal that looks good [22:15] *reportedly [22:15] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [22:15] outside of Terminal.app [22:15] Nacl, andy idea where? [22:15] link? [22:15] And what's wrong with irssi? [22:15] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:15] irssi, is a pain to use man [22:16] i just use xchant [22:16] but if i could stay in my terminal i would be happier [22:16] I never log off [22:16] o i do, i take my macbook with me [22:16] irssi and bitlbee handles all of my IM and IRC, so I'm with NaCl [22:16] so i close it all the time [22:16] I have a server to use [22:17] hum [22:17] that might be a good idea [22:17] set my server up for message/irc [22:17] never really thought of that man [22:17] lotec: lotec iTerm [22:17] bah [22:18] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:18] ill have to research how to set this up [22:19] no idea how [22:20] I built a mini-itx box I use as a home server with slack-current [22:20] i got a slack server running now [22:20] it was fairly trivial but I have been playing with slack for a long time [22:20] for ftp/ssh/file sharing/web server [22:20] in my case I modified sshd_config a bit [22:20] nice [22:21] just no idea how to implement so i can gain acces to a screen that all ready has irc/messanger running [22:21] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:21] why you'd use screen [22:22] and ssh tunnel? [22:22] someone already anticipated you would have that issue [22:22] yeah you can tunnel anything or over a vpn [22:22] irc i get [22:22] lotec are you thinking of a bouncer? [22:22] but yahoo/msn/ [22:22] its all the same [22:23] jgeboski, not sure man [22:23] kalabas (vag-kal@ppp-94-66-92-10.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [22:23] but screen just lets you take control of a tty remotely [22:24] I know i use ZNC on my LAN server and that connects to freenode then i connect multiple pcs to that [22:24] irc is not a huge thing, that is easy enough just run irc in screen on my server [22:24] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [22:24] but how about messanger services? icq/yahoo/msn/aol ? [22:25] you could use bitlbee if you wish to use that in your IRC client [22:25] lotec, find out what screen does [22:25] i know what screen does [22:26] lotec: do you want the applications or the protocols? [22:26] nuffpuff, not really sure, never thought of this, but would make it quiet a bit easier [22:27] saving me cpu cycles on my macbook, if i run it all on a server, and just connect to server to get irc/messanger services [22:27] never thought of that really [22:27] i do not have X on my server, so it has to be command based [22:29] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) joined ##slackware. [22:30] you could setup bitlbee and port forwarding [22:30] yea i am going to have to read on this [22:30] use your favorite im/irc client on your macbook to connect to it [22:30] yep, the worst part of linux. research :) [22:32] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) left irc: Client Quit [22:32] finch [22:32] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [22:32] finch = pidgin cli client [22:33] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@200.90.87.171) joined ##slackware. [22:34] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [22:34] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [22:34] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:35] NaCl: thanks for the hint on iterm much better then regular terminal [22:36] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Changing host [22:36] jaminja (~jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) joined ##slackware. [22:36] subvdroid (~androirc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] lotec: np [22:36] jgeboski, I hope NY isn't affected by it. [22:37] rhise: i think it's eastern parts are in the projected path [22:37] damn it s/rhise/rhisa [22:37] tab complete, youn grasshopper. :P [22:38] Action: jgeboski chuckles [22:38] rhisa: http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/tropical-depression-seven-storm-hurricane-earl-swa_2010-08-25 [22:38] now to find an image to use on this [22:39] TOO MANY TABS [22:40] necropresto (~necropres@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [22:40] Action: jgeboski calms NaCl [22:40] I am calm [22:41] you referring to IRC tabs? [22:41] naw [22:41] firefox tabs [22:41] ah [22:41] anyone running the new FF? [22:41] Action: NaCl restores the FF beta [22:41] lol NaCl firefox tabs are my curse [22:41] i am still on 3.0.19 [22:41] Action: ElectRo` me [22:42] there's an addon called vertigo or someting that. It puts your tabs on the side [22:42] have they fixed the reopen tabs when you start FF? [22:42] i'm running ff 2.0 [22:42] ff 3.5.2 [22:42] i miss 2.0 dearly [22:42] 3.0 has been fail the whole time [22:43] this one runs fine for me [22:43] but when i upgrade a few months ago. it fell ass out [22:43] jgeboski: vertigo only works until firefox 2.0 [22:44] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:44] jgeboski: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1343/ [22:44] colorful tabs does side tabs [22:45] colorful tabs drove me nuts [22:45] Mau13x (c9513170@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.81.49.112) joined ##slackware. [22:45] necropresto: it's been a while since i've used firefox [22:45] hehe [22:46] jgeboski: try it http://kb.mozillazine.org/Move_the_tab_bar_(Firefox) [22:46] google chrome [22:46] Any here have slack running on eeepc? [22:46] anyone use the vimperator plugin for ff? It is the only reason I use firefox [22:46] Mau13x: i've slack running on acer aspire one [22:46] huffpuff: i use [22:46] and the compatibility of hardware is ok? [22:47] at 10" screen, ratpoison and vimperator help a lot [22:47] Guest64165 (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:47] necropresto: interesting. I thought there'd be more to it than a little css [22:47] Mau13x: 100% [22:47] I have a new Eeepc 1201T and would like to install slack on it [22:47] My wireless didnt work on ununtu [22:47] ubuntu [22:48] Mau13x: pay atention to network and wirelss cards [22:48] necropresto: cool, I use wmii --- with all of the hardware developments they keep making our screens smaller [22:48] Mau13x: you can try slackware current [22:48] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.34.57.204) joined ##slackware. [22:49] Maul13x: did u check and make sure your wireless is supported in nix? [22:49] Mau13x: i had a problem with my network card in slack13 [22:49] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [22:49] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [22:49] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) joined ##slackware. [22:49] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:49] r8192se_pci [22:51] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:52] Mau13x: root@darkdwarf:~# modinfo r8192se_pci [22:52] ERROR: modinfo: could not find module r8192se_pci [22:52] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [22:52] :( [22:53] ah, yes those drivers [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:54] ferdna007 (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:54] Mau13x: at kernel config: [22:54] CONFIG_RTL8192SU=m [22:54] CONFIG_RTL8192U=m [22:54] Channel flood from necropresto -- kicking [22:54] CONFIG_RTL8192E=m [22:54] necropresto kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [22:54] pwnt [22:54] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:54] yeah, it's in there [22:54] it's one of those, should be autodetected [22:55] necropresto (~necropres@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [22:55] I'm not a advanced user on slackware [22:55] 3 lines == kick? [22:55] i really dont know how to configure it on kernel [22:55] necropresto, time between each line as well. [22:55] it's already configured [22:55] NaCl: not SE [22:55] jgeboski, yikes. [22:55] SE? [22:55] onlu SU, U and E [22:56] oh [22:56] Se is a diferent hardware,,, [22:56] I have no idea what that means. :P [22:56] The red wave thingie doesn't look like it'll hit NY. [22:56] rtl8192se, su, u and e [22:56] rhisa: you can only hope [22:56] NaCl: se == second edition? (like win98) [22:57] necropresto: it's in my 13.1 .config [22:57] Ok I will try the installation nd after it i will comment here [22:57] Maul13x: go slow, dont rush the install [22:57] hmmm [22:57] NaCl: CONFIG_R8187SE=m [22:57] not 8192 [22:58] Why not? [22:58] uhm... [22:59] YMMV, but I think it should work [22:59] huh, I could be wrong [22:59] Mau13x: i think kernel 2.6.33.4 (slack current) doesn't support this card [23:00] Not in the config [23:00] SAD... [23:00] It's a staging driver [23:00] I can't find a linux distro that support it [23:00] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:01] Mau13x: not yet. try kernel 2.6.35.4 [23:01] Mau13x: you have to compile it [23:01] Mau13x: It's not really about the distro but rather the kernel and/or driver [23:01] ok I undestand [23:01] It's a ralink driver [23:01] you have to acquire it yourself [23:01] How i can se if the kernel support teh driver? [23:01] have to use that other crap, um ndsl wrapper? [23:02] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] use the windows driver for it? [23:02] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:02] Mau13x: build it yourself [23:02] People have been complaining it all over the 'net [23:02] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:02] I install teh current and after it compile the new one [23:02] thanks by the advices guys [23:03] you can't exactly install -current directly [23:03] unless you do a netinstall [23:03] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [23:03] What I should do? [23:03] try 13.1 [23:03] it should work fine [23:04] you can install -current on top of it [23:04] Maul13x: like they said install the driver for it [23:04] necropresto (necropres@unaffiliated/necropresto) left ##slackware. [23:04] ok [23:04] I will try [23:04] thanks again! [23:04] np [23:04] if u hit a bump come back [23:05] Sure! [23:05] no guarantee that it will work though, it seems that the driver has some issues [23:05] heviarti (~ptpChat2@174-144-86-154.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] TKS bye! [23:05] if you in dought [23:05] Mau13x (c9513170@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.81.49.112) left ##slackware. [23:05] try NDSLwrapper [23:05] all right fuck me [23:06] It's ndiswrapper, btw [23:06] has anyone seen motoko-chan [23:07] whoa ff's beta 5 has appeared [23:07] o.O [23:08] ? [23:08] NaCl: where? [23:08] Any of you folks using rutorrent? [23:08] oh, I lied [23:08] Action: NaCl hides [23:09] Action: gniks makes anger face and shakes fist [23:09] :) [23:09] awww [23:09] i was going to see if they finally got the windows theme working [23:10] they need to fix major bugs with gmail, or gmail needs to fix their code for ff 4 [23:10] either way, sending email is a pain [23:10] Action: NaCl just uses thunderbird [23:10] what's the issue? [23:10] NaCl, there yea go ndis :D [23:11] nacl i do have it, but prefer not to use it as its more memory hungry than ff [23:11] jgeboski: when sending a message, it will sit there and say "Sending" for infinity [23:11] I didn't even know they were above v3? [23:11] eventually it actually sends, but it never goes back to the inbox and visually complete [23:11] I've got some wierdness in X. no terminals run. [23:11] i'd say that an issue [23:14] no error messages... no nothin.. [23:14] any netscape base code always has issues.... [23:15] jcn` (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:17] I'm curious about this so-called 'Google Chrome' [23:17] Google Chome is not that hot [23:17] all internet based [23:18] I would be using that but they don't support something I like [23:18] no way to store files on the pc, i did not mess with it that much, just set up a VMware image [23:19] gnrp (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:19] you store you files online, everything is online [23:19] Darlei (yo@85-197-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:19] I like chrome as it saves my theme, settings, and bookmarks to my google docs [23:19] so if you dont have internet, no way to get files. would be good for a netbook that you used around [23:20] oh joy... interpreted language? [23:20] i wonder if firefox 4 will have/has default userscript support [23:20] gnrp (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) joined ##slackware. [23:20] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:22] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:23] I'd kill the president of Paraguay with a fork for a copy of 13.1.... 10 is uber-sucking on my junkyard P4... [23:24] heviarti: cant download it? [23:24] servers up and down? [23:24] Fernando Lugo? sorry,couldn't resist..;*) [23:25] I wonder if I can convince somebody to update my custom extension to work with 4 [23:25] boy... what happened anyway, it's really dead here.... [23:26] heviarti: which pentium4 do you have? [23:26] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:27] subvdroid (~androirc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:27] lotec: I'm limited to a palm centro for net. [23:28] It's a socket 775 @ 2.8 on an Asus PTGD-LA with a gig of ram. [23:28] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:29] heviarti: cool...BIOS allow hyperthreading? [23:30] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] I built it entirely out of scrap. [23:31] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [23:31] the version of slackware isn't gonna make it "faster" [23:31] yes. [23:32] each version is just a kernel with a set of software packages [23:32] so if you want the latest kernel, you could install it yourself same with upgrading the packages you use [23:32] heviarti: where u live? [23:32] I can't get a straight answer if it supports a dual core or not tho. [23:32] sky: I don't expect it to. I expect better kernel level support of the onboard hardware.... like the sound. [23:33] thats not how it works [23:33] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Excess Flood [23:33] its not windows [23:33] and maybe X will run more than 2 apps. [23:33] slackware doesn't write kernels or develop X [23:34] heviarti: where u live? [23:34] something about 10 on it is wonky. [23:34] the default kernels are generic and you can add modules for custom hardware [23:34] its not the verion of slackware [23:35] Idaho. [23:35] heviarti: i tell yea waht, you pay shipping ill mail yea a copy if you want [23:35] Sky: no, but 13.1 will have more current versions of X and the kernel. [23:35] i see i'm not making any headway so i'll bail out [23:36] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] Lotec: Letha, Id. [23:37] pay shipping ill send it to yea [23:37] my nick @puresimplicty.net tell me how much you need. [23:37] lannders (~lannders@193-25.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: yeah! [23:37] or buy from the slackware store and support slackware [23:37] i am downloading the Iso now [23:37] lol [23:37] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:38] oops lotec didn't mean to ruin your deal :p [23:38] motoko-chan! I've been looking frickin' everywhere for you! [23:38] sky: I've run slack since 3.4., Trust me I know what I'm saying. [23:38] no you don't [23:38] ? [23:38] heviarti: check your screen here [23:39] Action: Motoko-chan hides [23:39] and i've been running it since .25 [23:39] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:39] it took 12 floppies [23:40] and x being slow on a 2.8 with a gig of ram is unbelievable to me [23:40] lotec: how much do you need? [23:40] i was 2 years old when slack was released [23:40] just shipping man [23:40] dollar? [23:41] email coming at yea [23:41] jg: I can spend ten, I can't spend thirty or forty... I have to buy parts for my tractor. [23:41] plus I need a new knife for this winter. [23:42] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [23:42] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware. [23:43] heviarti: i suppose that's the beauty of free software [23:44] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [23:46] I didn't say it was slow, I said it was wonky. [23:46] motoko-chan: nothing bad... [23:47] motoko-chan: I'm working on getting another of my alphas up and running.... [23:47] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:48] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [23:49] Greetings [23:49] sky: I just want the latest distribution, plus the glibc it installs, and a more current kernel and toolchain. [23:49] Greets [23:49] ilker (~ilker@88.236.158.103) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:50] heya The-Croupier [23:50] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:52] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) joined ##slackware. [23:53] hiya MLanden ;) [23:53] how are you today ;) [23:53] The-Croupier: doin' great for the night thanks..yourself? [23:54] not bad... ;) trying to keep people happy.... im the dj for tonight ;) [23:54] |Slacker| (~cris@189.32.35.194) left irc: Client Quit [23:55] skywise: and I didn't say x ran slow, I said only two programs would run. as in only xv and imagemagick will execute. [23:56] I request Tanz Mit Laibach. [23:56] yeah, thats much better [23:56] followed by Zak and SanJ's Hardcore Punk Punjabi Mix. [23:57] The-Croupier: cool..Despina Vandi still popular? [23:57] MLanden: yeah she is [23:57] she is still hot as well ;) [23:57] MLanden: you like her? [23:58] The-Croupier: yeah she is...just know of her from world pop [23:58] something tells me Rough Bark wouldn't fly where you are.... [23:59] world pop?! [00:00] --- Wed Sep 1 2010