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[04:02] This may be a rather stupid question, but does it take more power to display white text on black background or black text on white background? Or does it not matter, since the backlight is on in both cases? [04:03] (on an LCD display, I should add) [04:03] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-178-0.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:08] i would think the power usuage would be the same [04:08] on a lcd no, it will just block the backlight [04:09] same usage [04:09] on a led/oled it would [04:10] Good to know, thanks :) [04:10] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:12] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:15] how many years do you use linux, guys? [04:16] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[04:50] what are others doing? [04:50] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-85-23.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:53] ? [04:53] http://connie.slackware.com/ [04:53] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:53] Action: dustybin logs out [04:55] Page 2356 further reduces health-care costs by ensuring that every American gets an annual rectal exam, administered by a compassionate and gentle IRS employee. [04:59] palhmbus (~paulhomeb@unaffiliated/paulhomebus) joined ##slackware. [04:59] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:02] dustybin: ? [05:02] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [05:05] delt0r___: there is no 64-bit skype [05:07] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [05:08] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.59.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:08] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.171.56) joined ##slackware. [05:08] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:10] palhmbus (paulhomeb@unaffiliated/paulhomebus) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:14] AlexElliott (~alex@client-86-27-19-21.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:16] alienBOB: I found lots of threads asking for 64bit from 3 years ago... [05:16] and the dep 64 bit package... [05:16] I assumed there may be one [05:16] however the "64bit" packages are "multilib" ones... they just added some other 32 bit packages to make it work [05:17] thanks [05:18] isBEKaml (keml@122.174.171.56) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:23] nvision (~nvision@g224250139.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:24] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:26] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-97-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:30] josemanuel (~josemanue@170.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[05:53] group > vboxusers:x:1000:users [05:53] geofff: USB access needs plugdev membership [05:54] ive added that too adaptr [05:54] gpasswd -a plugdev [05:54] yeah ive done that adaptr [05:54] logged out aswell [05:55] the guest can access my dvdrw [05:55] just my usb devices [05:55] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:55] then you should examine /var/log/udev for activity when you plug in a USB device [05:55] ok ill try that thanks [05:56] i dont have a /var/log/udev file or folder adaptr ? 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[06:31] i upgraded libpng12 to libpng14 (from slack13.1 repo) on my slack13.0 box to compile an app. now that i dont want that app anymore, so i return to libpng12. but for some reason it seems that almost all apps think that the system still uses libpng14, so almost all of them refuse to start issuing error like 'cannot open shared object file libpng14.so'. how can i fix this? [06:34] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [06:35] nvision (~nvision@g224250139.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:36] geofff (~geofff@212.183.140.23) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:37] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-9-134.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:37] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [06:37] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:37] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-9-134.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:40] fonseg: did you remove libpng14 and reinstall libpng12? [06:41] jgeboski: no, i used 'upgradepkg' [06:41] so to downgrade uninstall that package [06:42] and reinstall 12 [06:43] ok, will try that [06:43] fonseg: oops; i thought you were trying to revert [06:45] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:45] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] fonseg: also you did install the x86 package if you're running and x86 machine or x86_64 package if you're running and x86_64 machine? [06:47] jgeboski: what do you mean? you thought i'm using slack13.1? no, i'm using 13.0 [06:48] fonseg: 'cat /etc/slackware-verison' [06:48] what's that say? [06:48] jgeboski: im using 32-bit version and of course get the package from 32-bit repo [06:49] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [06:50] are you using slackpkg or getting manually from am mirror? [06:52] downloaded it via firefox [06:53] and you're using package made for 13.0 not 13.1 correct? [06:53] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-211.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [06:53] yes [06:54] maybe there's a config file or a database somewhere say that the libpng on my machine is 14? [06:55] ldconfig [06:56] you might have to get updated apps are linked to that lib [06:56] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [06:56] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:58] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:58] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-178-0.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:59] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:00] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:00] fonseg (~bnguyen@58.187.117.36) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:01] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-161-200-100.range86-161.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:38] mr-S (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Client Quit [07:40] Anyone in here have a Bon Echo build for slack 11.0? I dont have D set installed on my slack 110.0 box (not enough HDD space) [07:41] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:44] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [07:45] hey guys [07:45] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [07:45] can someone show me how to fix this? ----> http://pastebin.com/XW7MbCjG [07:45] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-075.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [07:46] 18 and 19 been playing with [07:47] Why?? [07:47] What do you think to achieve? [07:48] You only broke the script [07:48] hey,folks [07:48] hey alienBob well that's your slackbuild but I'm not compiling the gui so I don't need the skins and removed that and just trying to have the rest of this CAT into the doinist [07:48] abirouter (~abi@125.167.237.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:48] Well you messed it up [07:49] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBC21.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] well the only thing I did was remove the skins section and comment 18 and add 19 is all [07:49] Nick change: Roin -> FCC|Roin [07:49] I don't see why removing the skins section is a problem if you're not using it [07:50] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) joined ##slackware. [07:50] No, you broke the config() function instead Xgates [07:50] by removing the skins section? [07:51] No [07:51] ---> #} [07:51] I think you need to learn some bash [07:51] I didn't try that I just put that there wondering if that was correct or not [07:51] yeah don't know bash [07:51] Then do not fuck with the script? [07:51] so if 18 is ucommented will it work [07:52] I do not know why you added the "fi" [07:52] alienBOB: did you learn BASH by reading the o'reilly books? [07:52] whoah, first time I saw alienBOB swear.... [07:52] And without a gui, there is also no reason to keep the chroot commands further down [07:52] KaMii: bad tempered today [07:52] :S [07:53] Especially when people mess up my scripts [07:53] Action: KaMii cheers up alienBOB by killing a smurf [07:53] Action: alienBOB likes smurfs [07:53] Action: alienBOB smothers KaMii [07:53] oh.. ummm, Barny? [07:53] alienBOB: so is this correct then? ----> http://pastebin.com/fsfX3SWK [07:53] Better [07:53] alienBOB: sorry to hear....KDE build OK? [07:54] Xgates: lines 23-31 can go too [07:54] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:54] MLanden: KDE 4.5.0 is waiting on my server.... [07:54] But it will have to keep sitting there until release, august 4 [07:54] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-109-164.w92-156.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:54] alienBOB the o'reilly books on bash, I have them, are you saying they are bad or good? [07:54] KaMii: any book on bash is good [07:54] alienBOB: ahh...ok [07:54] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:55] ok [07:55] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-60-222.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Actually, _reading_ any book on bash is good [07:55] Reading the ABS online is good, too [07:55] oh, poop, i was hoping just standing on it was enough [07:55] Nah [07:55] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [07:56] Pook and fuck in a few lines... what are we doing KaMii? [07:56] Hmmm and typos too [07:56] its dirty saturday [07:56] KaMii: how much space do you have left on your PPC? [07:56] is there any difference between reading from a hard copy book and a computer screen? [07:56] I need to go into town, shopping, but I really want to go back to bed [07:56] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [07:56] my PPC has about 50 gigs free [07:56] dustybin: that is a personal preference [07:57] ok [07:57] I like reading paper books [07:57] me too! [07:57] alienBOB: btw with this cmd --- cp etc/example.conf $PKG/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf.new what was the config etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf.new doing? [07:57] im going to buy a nice black folder, and print out some docs [07:57] KaMii: ok [07:58] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Xgates: I am not going to take the time to explain the architecture of SlackBuild scripts. I am out of the building in a few moments. Perhaps someone else will [07:58] i think it depends refernce and study i use paper but to just read through someithg ereader all tho way [07:59] ok just wanted to know what the config was configuring since all I though it had to do was simply cp copy it [07:59] thanks [07:59] MLanden: you wanting me to help with slackintosh 13.1 or something? [07:59] Xgates: open up the config file and have a look inside [08:00] KaMii: no...was only asking how it was coming along [08:00] oh, ya it works great, I wish I did the switch years ago [08:00] OSX just has too much bloat for a 1.2 gig PPC [08:01] KaMii: I'm just saying this is all it needs from what I know ----> cp etc/example.conf $PKG/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf.new [08:01] it's just a config that needs copying to /etc for a user to configure later is all [08:02] Xgates: dont start hacking apart alienBOB's script saying what needs and needs not to be there, especially since hes likea Slackware god [08:03] I'm using this for my own personal build [08:03] then dont ask us questions, if that is your attitude [08:04] what attitude I'm just saying I'm using this for myself is all it's not going to be distributed [08:04] and he did tell you to read bash manuals and learn the slackbuild architecture which can be found on their website [08:05] well it is considered rude to start picking apart someones script right infront of them, especially when you admit you dont know bash that well [08:06] bash knowledge is not optional for slackbuilding. it's mandatory. don't try to bitch someone else's scripts unless you have many years of experience [08:06] and even then, just don't [08:07] I have 10 years ok but I don't know eveything and no one should take messing with a script for their own personal usage personal that is childish [08:07] and it pretty rude to go after alienBOB like that.... [08:07] go after him like what? [08:07] I was just asking him a few questions [08:07] Xgates: again if its personal use, then keep it that way, dont bring it into the public then, just hack in silence [08:07] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:08] well no one should get bent out of shape he should be honored I want to use the script and I'm asking for help not be upset [08:08] a teacher should not be upset with a student.... [08:09] no, you took his script, then you started chaning it, and when it didnt work, you asked him why his script isnt working [08:09] dont patronize us [08:09] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:09] end of this discussion, its getting nowhere [08:10] grow up and don't treat me like a child [08:10] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0.0 Seconds ) [08:10] considering he never asked alienBoB directly [08:13] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: http://linuxspirit.fr [08:18] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:19] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] reading through what was said, it's clear that KaMii had no applicable complaints [08:21] is running sshfs and NFS at the same time a bad idea? [08:27] KaMii, i dont see why it would be... but then again, i dont see why you'd want to run both at the same time [08:32] because i cant get nfs client to run on this machine, but sshfs works [08:34] AlexElliott (~alex@client-86-27-19-21.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:36] what machine? [08:36] whats the error? [08:36] does nfs from the server work on other machines? [08:37] in your /etc/export in the server is there a restriction set to who can mount the nfs shared filesystem? [08:37] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:39] j0z (~UNIX@201.22.23.49.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:39] j0z (~UNIX@201.22.23.49.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [08:39] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:42] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:43] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:43] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:46] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [08:47] no error, i just cant find any documentation on how to get and what i need for nfs client on slack 11.0 [08:47] everything I found is talking about later systems with different packages [08:48] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:48] have you looked at the how-tos that came with that version? [08:48] Nick change: SigmaVirus24 -> Guest63202 [08:48] have you actually tried mounting it? [08:48] Nick change: Guest63202 -> SigmaVirus24 [08:49] mount ip:fs mountpoint [08:49] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-161-200-100.range86-161.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:51] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.58.143) joined ##slackware. [08:51] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-124-80.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [08:54] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [08:54] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:55] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:57] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:58] its looking like sshfs is conflicting with nfs on my client [08:59] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:59] i have it entered in fstab and df is reporting that the nfs is mounted as sshfs but I cannot access it, i get permission denied [09:00] hrm, now i cant unmount it [09:00] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:01] Action: SigmaVirus24 watchs [09:02] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-244-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:02] ok, interresting, now its working, but it has it mounted twice [09:03] raela: are you here? i set the hosapd and dhcpd, but windows xp can't get ip, but windows 7 could, why? [09:03] windows sucks? [09:03] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:03] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:03] uhhh I have no clue. I've just used hostapd with linux to linux [09:04] raela: i see [09:05] t0f (~Don_Hoe@clsm-74-212-45-99-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] delby (~chatzilla@bzq-79-179-37-117.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] SigmaVirus24: yes, do you have the knowledge? [09:07] i think something is broken, i mount is just haning there and ctl + c is not killing it [09:08] that's what happens when a process is stuck in a system call [09:08] nmi [09:08] what would cause it to get stuck? [09:08] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] a bug? [09:09] and that ate up 75% of my swap space [09:09] lovely [09:09] swapping the hell outa you [09:09] i killed mount in another terminal but swap is still at 75% [09:10] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:11] check in ps or top what is taking up your memory [09:11] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [09:11] sometimes things on the lappy get all funny i think its because the HDD does have some bad sectors and every now and then, something goes whacky [09:11] probably a fuse thing, right? [09:11] well im always monitoring top, and its not showing anything different [09:11] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:12] hi there, i am installing slack 11.0 because i need to do a floppy install (no cd/dvd). i created boot, install1/2, and network disks and started the installation. everything went smoothly until i got to the stage of source media selection. i would like to do a network install from a remote mirror via dhcp but it will only allow me to network install from nfs, which if i understand correctly... [09:12] ...means installing from a local server. any suggestions? [09:12] AlexElliott (~alex@client-86-27-19-21.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:12] whats 1/2 delby [09:13] delby: i am running slack 11 on this very machine [09:13] root disks install1 and install2. sorry... [09:13] and I had to the the same kind of install [09:13] you need ALL of the A set [09:13] delby, no usb as well? [09:13] I'm trying to get slackware 13.1 to load my Netgear wireless connection. I have the 3 files 'netwg311.cat', 'wg311v2.inf' & 'netgear311_XP.sys' (and 3 binary files), but I don't know where under /usr to cp them to. [09:13] and grab the N packages you need to get your network running [09:14] got usb but no boot option from it in bios. [09:14] delby, no problem, i think slackware included a floppy image to boot from usb [09:14] after you install A and the N packages you need for your network card and services you can install the rest from either nfs or download locally and install [09:15] just look in any of the ftp mirrors [09:15] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [09:15] t0f: trying to do ndiswrapper? those don't have to go to /usr I believe [09:15] just load whichever ndiswrapper wants and you should be fine [09:15] oh my swap finally cleared, must have been just a delay because this computer is so old and slow [09:15] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:15] KaMii: can i boot from the floppy and than use usb to install A and N? [09:16] raela: so boot slack and run ndiswrapper? [09:16] t0f: uhh, well, read the ndiswrapper docs and see what it wants [09:16] i believe that is what nachox was saying, but you need to find the disk (kernel or module) that will find the USB device [09:16] raela: will do, thanks [09:16] the disk is called sbootmgr [09:17] its quite famous actually [09:17] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: ram upgrades, hurray [09:18] hrm... nachox i have a weird problem, mount times out when I try to mount the nfs on this machine, but when I manually kill mount, the NFS mounts [09:18] and I automagically have access to it [09:18] guess i will just never unmount it [09:18] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [09:18] dont look at me, i am using solaris these days ;) [09:19] thanks all for the help. [09:19] no problem [09:19] how do you like Solaris? [09:19] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:19] raela: it's ok now:) [09:20] i have another question: how to let my windows xp connect to internet? [09:20] zomg why ? [09:20] iceheart: look up bridging, I believe.. or maybe figure out an iptables rule. I didn't go that far. I was just using ssh/scp [09:21] my interfaces are: eth0, wlan0 [09:22] iceheart, your linux is directly connected to the internet and your windows to your linux? [09:23] btw, in any case, make sure your windows xp is actually patched before placing it anywhere near the internet. At lease with service pack 3 [09:25] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host81-153-237-189.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:27] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [09:28] abirouter (~abi@125.167.200.95) joined ##slackware. [09:30] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.77) joined ##slackware. [09:31] anyone has answer? :( [09:32] for what? 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[09:39] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:39] but xp can't access internet still [09:40] $IPTABLES -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o $EXTIF -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE [09:41] $IPTABLES should point to where your iptables binary is installed and $EXTIF should be the name of your external interface [09:44] yes [09:46] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-124-80.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] abi__ (~abi@125.167.203.212) joined ##slackware. [09:47] Nick change: abi__ -> abirouted [09:47] abirouter (~abi@125.167.200.95) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:47] Nick change: abirouted -> abirouter [09:50] iceheart, use pastebin, show us the output of iptables - L; ifconfig -a; route; cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [09:52] nachox: where is pastebin? [09:52] Nick change: FCC|Roin -> Roin [09:53] my iptables -L no output [09:55] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. 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[10:32] haha, i has fix it now:) [10:32] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:32] thanks all [10:33] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host81-153-237-189.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:33] aryr100 (~aryr@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [10:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:37] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:37] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.58.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:37] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [10:37] g4tsu-old-pc (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-178-99.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:43] he had no iptables rules set... [10:45] aryr100 (~aryr@64.132.183.186) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:48] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:51] justin` (~justin`@unaffiliated/justin) joined ##slackware. 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[11:55] how can i download from git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=summary from 2010-06-16 Hicham HAOUARI Add firmware for Modems based on Eagle Chipset master commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot, from TREE - rt2870.bin file [11:56] what a darn hassle it is to switch a simple webhost provider that does also email for family.... [11:57] jg71: it's pretty easy to switch to a vhost provider, and set up your own email services [11:57] j0z__ (unix@201.22.27.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:57] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:57] nyRednek: im not gonna do that for family. i do that already for myself. [11:58] jg71: and it's hard just to add email addresses to your own domain? [11:58] nyRednek: to cut it short: nevermind .thanks. [11:59] Action: jg71 was just ranting not asking for help [12:00] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:21] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [12:22] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) left irc: Ping timeout: 619 seconds [12:24] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7CD91.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] hi everyone [12:24] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:26] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:27] does the virtualbox module take up an extra cpu or memory if its loaded but not running? [12:27] (i mean, the module is loaded but vb is not running) [12:27] KaMii: it's neglectible. [12:28] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [12:28] ok [12:29] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] aryr100, it's "quiet" [12:31] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.194.76) left irc: Changing host [12:31] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. 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[12:46] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-65-180.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:48] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:49] Axius (~fd@92.84.18.81) joined ##slackware. [12:50] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:52] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] seejay (~seejay@plexyplanet.org) joined ##slackware. [12:56] seejay (~seejay@plexyplanet.org) left irc: Changing host [12:56] seejay (~seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [12:59] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hrm, think i did something wrong with my virtualbox install of slackware 11.0 [13:00] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.3.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:00] it wont boot into it, but I can mount partition after i boot from the .iso [13:03] did you switch the drive from scsi to ide ? [13:03] j0z__ (unix@189.115.84.114) joined ##slackware. [13:03] i think so but oh, I installed the scsi kernel [13:03] v4nelle (~van@78-99-105.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:03] KaMii, interesting choice; why slackware 11 on vb? [13:04] ya it shows ide controller [13:04] i put slack 11 on vb because this lappy runs slack 11, but the HDD is too small to have D set, and I sometimes want to compile tings [13:04] s/tings/things [13:05] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:06] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] j0z (~UNIX@189.115.84.114) joined ##slackware. [13:07] j0z (~UNIX@189.115.84.114) left irc: Changing host [13:07] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.15.118) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Nem0 (~Nemo@188.169.184.177) joined ##slackware. [13:07] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7CD91.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:07] hay all : ) [13:08] Pleace Help me :) [13:08] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.177.97) joined ##slackware. [13:08] define help [13:09] pleace connect from ytalk [13:09] ytalk root@188.169.184.177 :) [13:09] I once saw a farmer shoot a horse beause it had a broken leg... he said he was helping it [13:10] Axius (~fd@92.84.18.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:11] unixfool (~imac@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Excess Flood [13:11] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [13:11] is anybody here ? [13:11] no [13:11] KaMii: horse's bones cannot get better [13:11] anybody quit [13:11] KaMii: so he was somehow helping [13:12] poor horsey [13:12] Nem0: you need help but we don't know what you need and if we can help you [13:12] gbonvehi, connect to me :) [13:12] well, anyway, thats how the farmer helps people Nem0, now... do you want my help? [13:12] lmao [13:12] Nem0: why not first explain the problem here so the correct person can assist you? [13:13] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Excess Flood [13:13] hes trolling trolling trolling [13:13] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:13] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [13:14] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:14] gbonvehi, i don't know english good :D [13:14] Nem0: me neither :) [13:14] KaMii: Were the dogs happy for the farmer's help? belly-wise? ;*) [13:15] MLanden: i have no idea, i left after the bang and cried [13:15] Nem0 (Nemo@188.169.184.177) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:15] KaMii: my parents take care of horses, and well, i've been there, we once had a 9 months horse that smashed his head with a fenche and he was suffering, running in circles [13:16] so, i prefer the shoot [13:16] KaMii: sorry..thought you speaking rhetorically(by example) and not by experience [13:16] :S thats sad, but ya, i mean i was 8 years old, so... ya, it was sad but I sorta understand now [13:16] that explains it [13:17] does someone know, why is the default hostname in slackware "darkstar"? [13:17] because darkstar is AWESOME! [13:17] because it was forged by dark vather [13:17] jk, just because patrick found it cool i guess [13:18] actually i have no idea why, probaby because it needs a name and so he gave it a name [13:22] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.15.118) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:22] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [13:25] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:25] j0z__ (unix@189.115.84.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:25] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [13:26] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [13:26] skinder: http://www.slackbook.org/html/glossary.html [13:27] you can see where it came from there [13:27] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:28] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [13:28] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] gbonvehi, thanks [13:30] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:30] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [13:30] anyone here use multimonitor? [13:30] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:31] john_dee (~id@93-81-68-73.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [13:32] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [13:37] j0z__ (unix@189.58.4.193.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:37] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.252) joined ##slackware. [13:38] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:38] Alt_of_Ctrl: yes [13:39] delt0r_, one nvidia card with two monitors? [13:39] yes [13:39] and at work 3 nvidia cards.... [13:39] delt0r_, separate X screens or twinview modes? [13:39] twinview [13:39] :( [13:39] sitwon (~adam@pool-71-126-174-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:40] I did the seperate X screens once.. with an extra mouse and keyboard... dual seat rather than dual monitor [13:40] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBC21.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:40] But it was a while ago [13:41] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBC21.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.155) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:43] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:44] fgnosferatu (~Francis@mail.proway.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:44] ncurses (~ncurses@112.202.14.180) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:46] ok i see the problem, lilo is not installing on my VB [13:47] did you run it? [13:47] anyone know what causes that and how to fix it? [13:47] ya, during the setup script, lilo fails [13:47] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [13:47] apply common sense. really, the lilo & grub wars get stranger by the day [13:47] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:48] i wasnt talking about grub, so what war? [13:48] dont mind me, im obviously not helping you. good luck solving the problem very few people seem to have ;) [13:49] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:52] KaMii, reconfigure lilo [13:52] it's a configuration problem [13:52] btw, where did you put it? [13:53] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-30-253.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [13:54] zErOaCid (slacker@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) joined ##slackware. [13:55] and i think jg71 is right; there's some silly borderline flaming thing about lilo vs grub [13:57] true [14:00] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [14:00] shonudo: i have tried reconfiguring it with every possible option, it always fails [14:01] maybe its a problem with my VBox setup? [14:01] but i was never talking about grub or anything to do with arguments between them [14:02] i have no idea what you guys are talking about with flaming, about lilo grub, that one is over my head [14:03] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-224-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:04] KaMii: slack version on the vm? [14:04] 11.0 [14:04] i remember having troubles with 12.1 defaulting the cd-drive (/dev/sdX) instead of the harddisk (/dev/hdX) [14:05] so i just ran it manually [14:05] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:05] maybe its just easier to put it on a virtual boot disk, and boot in that way [14:06] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [14:07] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:07] j0z__ (unix@189.58.4.193.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:08] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:08] j0z (~UNIX@189.115.83.182) joined ##slackware. [14:08] j0z (~UNIX@189.115.83.182) left irc: Changing host [14:08] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [14:10] j0z__ (unix@189.115.83.182) joined ##slackware. [14:13] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:14] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:14] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:17] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:18] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-72-86-4-192.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] Is zlib1g & zlib1g-dev included in this package, zlib-1.2.3-i486-2.txz ? [14:19] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) joined ##slackware. [14:23] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [14:25] hm I am guessing not. [14:25] Never heard of zlib1g [14:27] looking at google, seems to be a debian/ubuntu thing [14:30] peacedog: zlib1g seems to be the debian/ubuntu naming for zlib as far as I can tell. [14:33] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-97-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:36] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:37] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:37] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Thank you both. Trying to get Floola working with a late model Ipod! ;-) [14:43] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:43] peacedog: 1st gen or 2nd gen? [14:47] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [14:47] hello [14:48] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-112-186.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:53] hello [14:55] what's the general consensus on pulseaudio? [14:56] its shit! [14:56] didn't know we did consensuses in this channel [14:56] :) [14:57] consensi? [14:57] we would except we can't agree on it [14:57] yeah...what's the consensus on vi vs emacs? [14:57] they both suck and pico is all you need [14:57] basically emacs wins [14:58] popl: there ya go :) [14:58] awesome [14:58] emacs is so popular on slackware that it was given its own diskset so you could skip installing it with a single keystroke [14:58] yeah, it has its own kernel [14:58] Who's red the reddit interview with rms? [14:59] well, "interview" [15:00] (speaking of emacs, I meant) [15:00] i need to make some lunch [15:01] me too [15:01] Action: unixfool just ate [15:01] should I eat a can of pork and beans or should I make some peanut butter sandwiches? [15:01] both [15:01] ew [15:01] beans beans the magical fruit [15:03] unixfool: it's so true [15:03] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:03] My daily flatus expenditure has increased 210% since I started eating so many. [15:03] ok...time to beat up on the vtwin... [15:04] popl, lol [15:04] If I had a car I could probably drive to the store. [15:04] john_dee (~id@93-81-68-73.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:07] I have a silly problem. When I am watching videos or something flash-related in Firefox, other applications can't access the sound card until I quit Firefox (sometimes I have to send SIGKILL to Firefox). [15:07] That's why I asked about pulseaudio before. [15:08] popl: welcome to binary incompatibility and Flash [15:08] I don't want to use a sound server but I will if I need to I guess. [15:08] alisonken1home: I figured. [15:09] I wish Flash weren't so ubiquitous. [15:10] hey i got slack 11.0 to boot on VB had to use a virtual bootdisk, maybe there is a bug somewhere because I also have to use a bootdisk to boot this laptop which runs slack 11.0 [15:10] and its not VB on the laptop [15:12] awww i missed the emacs discussion... well i like emacs, but thats just me i guess, im still trying to learn it of course but ya [15:12] MLanden Ipod Nano 5g [15:13] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-60-222.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:13] you guys love silverlight over flash! [15:14] peacedog: all right...ever thinking of rockboxing it? [15:16] not that there's anything with the firmware on them,that is [15:16] MLanden Not my personal device. Belongs to my nephew. Otherwise I would def. get rid of this proprietary crap! ;-) [15:17] gnoel (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:17] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:17] peacedog: ahhh...hear ya [15:17] hi folks, I wanted to buy a laptop and install slackware. Are there any known issues with installing slackware on laptops? [15:18] gnoel: any particular model? [15:18] t0f (~Don_Hoe@clsm-74-212-45-99-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] HP pavillion dm4-1065dx [15:18] is one i was thinking about [15:19] I used this skackbuild to install wxpython : http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/wxPython/ but I have a problem : http://pastebin.com/1tgX3KzE Do you know how can I resolv this ? [15:19] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:20] I downloaded, compiled & installed ndiswrapper and ran it to create all i thought it needed in /etc/ndiswrapper, but no connection. entering 'ndiswrapper -l' lists the [15:20] same pci id as i get when i enter 'lspci -n', for the Netgear wireless card. the module is located in /lib/modules/misc. any ideas? [15:20] janemba: do you have wxGTK isntalled? [15:20] *installed [15:20] popl: yep from slatp-get [15:20] janemba: you can't have both at the same time [15:21] popl: I remove it and I reinstall wxpython [15:21] janemba: that should work, wxGTK is included in wxPython [15:22] popl: ok thx :) [15:22] no problem [15:22] gnoel: icore i5...shouldn't be any probs...maybe updating xorg to 1.8 over some glitches...intel gpu,right? [15:22] MLanden: yes intel [15:23] MLanden: is it hard to update to xorg 1.8? [15:23] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:28] indeed [15:29] two long weeks more... then my parents in law are flying back to their country [15:30] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.68) joined ##slackware. [15:30] i could give you advice, but it could just make things worse [15:31] gnoel: just look up the specs for a clear idea...good luck [15:32] MLanden: is there a list of models with known issues? [15:33] gnoel: check out linux-laptop.net [15:33] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-161-208.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:33] I think people still update it [15:33] popl: thanks [15:33] great [15:33] no problem [15:33] thanks [15:34] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:34] delt0r_ (~delt0r@188-22-174-226.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:34] popl: see that's the same one as http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ which I was about to give...all good,though..;*) [15:34] thank to both of you [15:36] i wanted to introduce my brother (on his system) to linux, but without his dsl connection, he'll never boot it [15:36] yoyoned (todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [15:37] t0f: why would not his dsl connection work? [15:37] darned if i dont know [15:38] pppoe? [15:38] i followed the bouncing ball for ndiswrapper [15:38] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Excess Flood [15:38] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) left irc: Changing host [15:38] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [15:38] yes i think this connection is pppoe [15:38] t0f: who is your ISP? [15:39] and where is your locality? [15:39] that makes it a bit more difficult... i have had to set up a such connection in linux before [15:39] frontier or epix [15:39] i got it to work after a few tries [15:40] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:40] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] here it is: clsm-74-212-45-99-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net [15:41] i think some googling for pppoe and slackware might help... i do not remember how i did the setup [15:41] east coast, near Scranton PA [15:42] t0f: one of those speedstream 5667 deals? [15:42] Action: mrcarrot has never been understanding the benefit of pppoe. [15:43] this is my brothers' computer and connection, so MLanden, i don't know [15:43] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-60-222.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:43] pppoe should really be called ppp over tcp/ip [15:43] it's with Frontier so it's probably something crap like that [15:44] you will need his username and password for the connection... as pppoe connections usually requires them [15:44] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:44] its masquerading a connection over their ethernet/dsl line [15:44] t0f: ok [15:45] Action: mrcarrot likes best the connections that just provides a dhcp server or an stable ip and all you need to do is to configure your modem to route to it [15:46] mrcarrot: ndiswapper said nothing about this. so ppoe is setup kinda like my pppd connection at home? [15:46] yea [15:46] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] hm, ok [15:47] i would try some kind of live cd first... with all the pppoe packages to see if it is working [15:47] i have the latest Slax [15:48] MLanden: http://www.frontierhelp.com/usertools.cfm?qstid=490&catid=244 [15:48] MLanden: speedstream :P [15:48] and ubuntu, not sure if can run live though [15:49] sorry, don't know if you're actually interested [15:49] popl: ok [15:49] ok then, i'll boot Slax and get back to you guys,thanks [15:50] t0f (~Don_Hoe@clsm-74-212-45-99-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [15:50] Is he using Slax as the OS or is he trying to get stuff working in Slackware? [15:50] Hmm... someone recommended a "graphical accelerator" for Intel 845G graphics about a month ago, but I can't find it in my logs. [15:51] nvision_ (~nvision@g224249015.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:51] he will see if he can get pppoe to work in slax... then he should be able to get it in the real slackware also. otherwise he is not daring to wipe his brothers hard disk i think [15:51] popl: think to test it out..not sure though [15:54] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:56] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B0777A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Hugh (~hugh@189.138.161.206) joined ##slackware. [15:56] good eve [15:57] josemanuel (~josemanue@170.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Good eve to you as well [15:57] lonely good eve, :) [15:57] someone here? [15:57] hi Hugh [15:57] hi rahulrp [15:58] [D]an (Dan@89.114.114.203) joined ##slackware. [15:58] High_Priest (~Mean@92.244.137.59) joined ##slackware. [15:58] gnoel (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:58] anyone used aircrack? [15:59] by chance I came across this channel [15:59] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [15:59] welcome [15:59] Alas, I have not even heard of aircrack [16:00] but ibut I was not very good at the ingles [16:00] aww, that is so sad rirombo [16:00] rahulrp: you're probably not going to find help for aircrack in this channel. [16:00] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [16:01] Action: rahulrp thinks this is a little mean [16:01] rahulrp: most people don't even use it. [16:01] ok this is confusing me, in VirtualBox, I am trying to install the Guest Additions inside my VB Guest. I am clicking on the gui and selecting the gues additions.iso, but I cannot for the life of me figure out where it mounted or how to get it to run, and the manual is of no help [16:02] inside my guest, df shows nothing was mounted [16:02] and there is no /cdrom [16:02] Yes, a better channel to ask would be #nethack ;) [16:02] KaMii: did you actually mount the iso in VBox? [16:03] KaMii: Slackware guest? [16:03] Speaking of which, I need to install nethack... [16:03] slackware 11.0 guest, slackware 13.1 host [16:03] popl, the gui says its mounted, at least i think, i have no idea how to mount it [16:04] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.68) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:04] i just installed slackware in my pc [16:04] KaMii: just click the little checkbox in the devices menu next to the iso [16:04] is , is very good [16:04] mannynix (~mannynix@200.56.148.85) joined ##slackware. [16:04] and the manual under linux refers you to the windoze section.... so that was of no help to me [16:04] i did click the little checkbox [16:04] and its checked [16:04] and now what? [16:05] unixfool (~imac@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:05] because nothing ever happened [16:06] i come from the famous Debian GNU/LINUX. [16:06] KaMii: did you try mounting /dev/sr0 or whatever the cdrom is? [16:07] rahulrp (rahul@p57B0777A.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:07] KaMii: It's probably /dev/hdc under 11.0. [16:07] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:07] i will check [16:07] i did a fdisk -l and it showed nothing [16:08] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.77) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:08] ah, yes that worked [16:08] :P [16:08] hrm... you would think they would have put that in the manual [16:09] please , how install grub2 on slackware? [16:09] http://www.bnetweb.org/how-to/install-slackware-on-virtualbox/ [16:09] They couldn't have known you'd be using a 3 year old version of Slackware =p [16:09] can you believe that took me two hours, and still i couldnt figure it out :S [16:09] thanks popl and jkwood [16:10] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-30-253.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:10] Lilo or grub [16:11] hahaha and it failed [16:11] i need kernel modules, but I cannot install kenel modules until I get the share folder setup [16:11] Define "it failed." [16:11] Ah. [16:11] but i cannot setup share folders until I get kernel modules [16:12] what happens is that I can not double boteeo with lilo [16:12] Hugh: Slackware comes with lilo, grub is in extra/, I'm not sure about grub2. [16:12] i thought kernel modules were in the d set [16:12] KaMii: a/ [16:12] well i installed all of a [16:12] Hugh: For lilo, you just execute "liloconfig" as root. For grub, look in the /extra directory on your Slackware DVD or FTP [16:12] so they should be in there [16:13] yes, KaMii. It must be Slackware's fault. Nothing wrong at the user end... [16:13] ;P [16:13] Err, right, what jkwood said :) [16:13] does mount show anything? [16:13] Hugh: You are trying to dual boot Linux and another operating system? [16:13] oh ok it needs kernel sources [16:13] si , ya lo se pero al editar el lilo.conf me dice que no encuentra la ruta del vmlinuz [16:14] yes, I know but when editing the lilo.conf tells me not to find the path of vmlinuz [16:14] which cd is kernel sources on? I know its the k set, but which cd is that located on? [16:14] should be the first [16:14] yeah [16:14] oh good [16:15] Hugh: did you verify that you did not make a typo? :) [16:15] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:15] Hugh: Espanol? [16:15] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:15] hello [16:15] jkwood: Swahili. :P [16:16] popl: I sometimes confuse it with Portuguese. Just making sure. =p [16:16] Can anyone tell me why thunar/HAL HATES to mount USB drives? [16:16] arfon: You're not in the plugdev group? [16:16] yes, its udev [16:16] yeah, I've done and that is not [16:17] yeah espaniol [16:17] Let me check.... [16:17] it mounts some drives but not other but a manual mout works fine [16:17] jkwood: I'm just messing with you. :) [16:17] aaarnt (~arnt@host-247.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:18] Hugh: I don't know if you're aware, but #slackware-es is a Spanish-speaking channel. =) [16:19] if that was going to do now [16:19] Hugh: good luck [16:19] brb [16:19] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:19] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:19] therefore thank all respondents [16:20] You're welcome. =) [16:20] greetings to all [16:20] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:21] see you [16:21] d [16:21] hmmm [16:22] kumo (1100@41.5.32.95.dsl-dynamic.vsi.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:22] I have just installed wxpython from slackbuild but when I launch it I have this error : http://pastebin.com/iasX67US an issue for this ? [16:22] Hugh (~hugh@189.138.161.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:22] kumo (1100@41.5.32.95.dsl-dynamic.vsi.ru) left irc: Client Quit [16:22] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:22] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:22] has anyone ever installed plan 9 under VB? [16:23] ever? [16:23] did i say that wrong? [16:23] ##slackware(+Pcnt)] [296 nicks (@1 %0 +0 295)] [16:23] [##slackware] [16:23] damnit, sorry [16:25] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-124-80.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:25] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Yep, it was that GD plugdev! [16:26] its arfon [16:26] did you get wow working yet? [16:26] I think I'm going back to fstab entries, MUCH easir than this media crap [16:26] yep, it mounts now... [16:27] media crap? [16:27] you mean udev? [16:27] CNN [16:27] I mean /media/x [16:27] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-31-198.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] you have a /media folder? [16:27] yes [16:27] i use /mnt/foo [16:27] Yes KaMii [16:28] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-112-186.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:28] I have always made /mnt/sdb1, /mnt/sdb2, etc [16:28] and fstab has worked fine [16:28] . /mnt is typically used by /etc/fstab [16:28] oh you name your mount points the same as the device point? [16:28] or manual [16:28] Stinkin change, I hate it :) [16:28] thats kinda smart, never thought of that [16:29] KaMii: depends on what I'm doing with it for me [16:29] KaMii, it just works... You don't get these HAL failed to mount..." messages [16:29] for the most part, when troubleshooting disks getting full, mounting as /mnt/ is typically a good practice [16:29] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:29] it doesn't *just* work [16:29] Also for Taxidermy, Ken [16:29] ya, why did I never think of that? [16:30] epecially when trying to find root partiion filling [16:30] but then again im usually naming my mount points hellokitty and smurfs [16:30] j/k [16:30] I believe it. [16:30] aaarnt (~arnt@host-247.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] and my favorite, prettyinpink [16:31] example - when / (root) filesystem is reporting 100% full, you don't want to run du on / because of /sys and /proc, so mount (example sda1 as root) mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 && cd /mnt/sda1 && du -hx --max-depth=1 [16:31] KaMii, that's just wrong.... mount /smurf /hellokitty [16:31] alisonken1home: I've never had root 100% full [16:32] i have.... it did not make me a happy smurf [16:32] popl: when you have customers that don't know how to work with webpags (and wordpress and php scripts and etc.), root can get full :) [16:32] also due to log files [16:32] High_Priest (~Mean@92.244.137.59) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:32] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-31-198.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:32] I can imagine. [16:32] I usually keep /var on a separate partition though [16:32] I have to nightly look at log files on multiple servers because of that issue [16:32] also /home [16:32] popl always fills up his hard drives [16:32] Now, I need some more advise..... [16:33] jeev: I have tons of footage of your mom [16:33] tell them to just stop over logging [16:33] popl, you got it illegally. [16:33] I need to move the contents off of a 1TB drive onto several smaller drives.... [16:33] jeev: Well, I'm pretty sure some of the stuff we're doing in the footage is illegal. [16:33] The last time I did a bulk move, I used Konqueror and it lost ALOT of stuff... [16:33] popl: the problem with that is someone that forgot to setup their php properly, so instead of sending logs to ~usr/http/log they end up going to / [16:33] popl, now you're just lying [16:33] you guys gotta see dinner for schmucks, was pretty funny [16:33] What should I use to make sure everything moves? [16:34] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-31-222.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] it made me comfortable going back to the movies after i saw grown ups the worst movie in the history of movies [16:34] The worst movie, a Woody Allen movie? [16:35] alisonken1home: apache had write access to / ? [16:35] silly [16:35] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) joined ##slackware. [16:35] "grown ups" [16:36] popl: php.cgi scripts :) not full access but enough to get the logs started before user change [16:36] zaythan (~zaythan@ip72-213-210-19.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:36] ugh. people who don't understand the crap but try to administrate anyways [16:36] that pisses me off so much [16:37] its amazing what you can get accomplished when kernel sources are installed [16:38] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:38] im starting to like the idea of VB, I can now totally smurf up an entire slackware install and not care [16:38] anyone? The best tool to ensure files get moved okay in bulk? [16:39] Welcome to the 2007 KaMii [16:39] s/the// [16:39] arfon: dd [16:39] :) not dd [16:39] Try again, I need to move from one BIG drive to several small drives.... [16:40] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:40] tekzilla (~jon@d031066.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:40] try again? try Google you lazy sod :P [16:40] Action: arfon is actully missinh xcopy [16:40] missing [16:40] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) joined ##slackware. [16:41] I am Googling but all I'm getting is www.bestfreware.com type sites [16:41] up your Google-fu [16:41] Why google-fu is weak today... [16:41] I'm vunerable [16:41] Why = my [16:42] Must be a chunk of Google-nite nearby [16:42] Action: KaMii has no google-fu [16:42] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] KaMii, I'll put some in a box and send it to you. [16:43] alisonken1home: I don't know if that's worse than no logging at all. I had to enable apache logs on my work server because my boss had no clue [16:43] Action: arfon scrapes off some google-fu [16:43] ewww....@_@ [16:43] that's not google-fu, that's hpv [16:43] wut? [16:43] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) left irc: Excess Flood [16:43] popl: it's not the apache logs that are filling a root partition - it's the syslog reporting system errors because of php.cgi scripts :) [16:44] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) joined ##slackware. [16:44] tekzilla (~jon@d130079.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Gotta go... Gonna get a Google-fu recharge [16:45] arfon (~arfon@adsl-76-244-68-30.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:47] alisonken1home: Were they sending the apache lgos to syslog? [16:47] *logs [16:50] Otherwise I wonder what kind of system errors might happen because of errant php. [16:50] padhu (~padhu@175.40.32.93) left irc: Quit: bye.................... 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[17:01] yes. [17:01] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:02] ./configure; make; make install is less work than untaring a slackbuild [17:02] nvision_ (~nvision@g224249015.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:02] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:02] borg: two things: 1) not every software is as simple as those steps, 2) make install doesn't track anything. [17:03] NativeAngels (~nativesla@client-86-23-120-215.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:03] hello will slackware work on a sunfire v100 [17:03] v100? that's a sparc machine [17:03] so no [17:04] I think gentoo compiles on sparc machines. If you need linux on sparc. [17:04] ok thanks [17:04] recently i had a chance to get 120 of those, for free. i turned it down [17:04] it's an old POS [17:05] Action: borg wants an apple 2 [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-211.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] NativeAngels: if you're going to bother with those machines, you should get yourself acquainted with sparc architecture, and ask yourself if it's really worth your time [17:05] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:06] i was given 3 [17:06] seemed nice piece of kit [17:06] sure. back in 1995 [17:07] looks like opensolaris is an option [17:08] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:08] Nick change: Sir_Konrad_ -> Sir_Konrad [17:08] 120 boxes free? you could have built a fort! [17:08] sadly, opensolaris is quickly becoming history [17:08] tank-man: or a tank! :) [17:09] their max memory is 2GB, while those had only 256MB each. so that was already a big issue. and for christ's sake, they're ultrasparc II boxes [17:09] i think it would be nice to have a desk made of pc cases [17:10] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.148.105) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Sir_Konr- (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:13] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:13] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:14] Freejack` (~Freejack@24-196-14-18.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:18] anyone with multimonitor here? [17:18] yea [17:18] had 4, now 2 [17:22] Sir_Konr- (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:22] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:23] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Sir_Konr- (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) joined ##slackware. [17:23] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:24] tank-man, you use kde? [17:24] yea [17:25] multimonitor in wich mode? twinview, xinerama, separate X sessions? [17:25] will you please just ask your question already? :p [17:26] i have it in separate X screens [17:26] Sir_Konr- (~Sir_Konra@RIP.Panzer.Your.memory.is.dear2.us) left irc: Client Quit [17:26] right now i have 2 monitors with twinview [17:26] kde starts on both screens, but on the second shows blank [17:26] its a kde bug [17:26] how i can stop KDE to start on 2nd screen? [17:26] and start there Xfce or other DE [17:26] when i had 3 or 4, i think i used xinerama (also with 3 or 4 monitors i couldnt get opengl to work) [17:28] Alt_of_Ctrl, maybe ctrl+alt+f2 [17:28] some f# key [17:28] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:29] tank-man, no [17:30] not works [17:33] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:34] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-83-158.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[18:31] j0z__ (unix@189.58.0.145.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: [BX] Wouldn't it be great if the dog could walk itself? [18:33] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:34] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) joined ##slackware. [18:35] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:36] mannynix (~mannynix@200.56.148.85) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:37] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBC21.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [18:38] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-224-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:39] Nestor_ (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [18:41] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:41] Nick change: Nestor_ -> madnex [18:41] Alt_of_Ctrl: (late reply) How would that really work? Would you somehow switch which XSession has focus of the keyboard and mouse? [18:42] SigmaVirus24 (WhoAmI@pool-71-255-86-92.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [18:43] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:43] jgeboski, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/dual-monitor-separate-x-sessions-different-font-sizes-817388/ [18:44] What other programs are there except ddrescue? [18:44] And dd [18:44] I remeber there's something else with unpronouncable name [18:44] john_dee: have you checked out the smart attributes of the messed up disk yet? [18:45] lolz wow i just talked to this guy that said hes a computer expert, then i started talking about unix, he said he didnt know what that was, I said how can you not know? his answer was that he has been on the road a lot lately and didnt have the time to keep up with the latest technology.. [18:46] antiwire: It's in external box, so no smart. It works (smart) in the other box, but I'd rather not move it now [18:46] it's a USB connected disk? [18:46] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-200-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Yep :\ [18:46] you'd be better off taking out of that case and work on it directly [18:47] I know, but that's impossible atm [18:47] usb makes it difficult to use recovery tools [18:47] i'd just turn it off until you can do it [18:47] That's what I'm thinking. Actually it mounts, but takes a lot of time for every operation [18:48] yeah man, umount everything and shut it down [18:48] KaMii, at my local college, normal classes are small (30 students) but a computer science class i had that dealt with linux was 4 people [18:48] hook it up to its native interface when that's possible and try to use ddrescue again [18:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] antiwire: I wonder if I should waste no time and just copy it with fm while it still works :\ [18:52] Probably not :P [18:56] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [18:57] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:57] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) joined ##slackware. [18:57] How can I print the whole file tree? [18:57] Like the one in txt file with slackware isos? [18:58] tree [18:58] tree -d [18:59] tnx [18:59] pretty [19:02] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [19:03] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:03] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.111.128) joined ##slackware. [19:05] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:08] madnex (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [19:09] niklaswe (~niklas@nmap.se) joined ##slackware. [19:10] is it wrong to unplug an external firewire dvd burner or do I need to turn off a module first? [19:11] if it is in use, don't unplug it [19:14] its not in use, nothing is mounted, i just want to be sure its ok to unplug [19:14] and plugging it back in wont cause any problems [19:14] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:15] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:15] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [19:17] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-60-222.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:18] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:18] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[20:50] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:50] snowdonkey (~bennett@dyn246-03.cod.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:52] Hi. I'm trying to install network-manager-applet in xfce. I installed it and all its dependencies from slackbuilds.org but it doesn't appear in my list of applets when I try to add it to the panel. Any advice? [20:53] snowdonkey, using xfapplet ? [20:54] it should auto-start [20:54] it does in KDE, anyway [20:54] I just tried add it from xfce panel menu. [20:54] it wouldn't be there [20:54] It's not an xfce applet [20:54] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:55] Oh. :D [20:55] snowdonkey, xfapplet is used to be able to use gnome applets within xfce [20:55] it should autostart when you enter XFCE if NM is running [20:55] thrice`: it isn't a GNOME applet, really [20:55] NaCl: I did confirm it does autostart. [20:55] yes, nm-applet is [20:55] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.40.255) joined ##slackware. [20:56] I thought it was just an application tied to a tray icon [20:56] And it just rests in the system tray [20:56] NaCl: What do you think an applet is? :) [20:56] Thx thrice`, NaCl, I appreciate it. [20:57] popl: good point, uhm... [20:57] sitwon (~adam@pool-71-126-174-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] I mean it's more independent than other applets [20:57] like the system monitor thing in GNOME [20:57] snowdonkey: make sure you've setup network manager correctly and it should just work [20:58] that's tied to GNOME, but the NM "applet" is a little more universal [20:58] IDK [20:58] you get both from gnome.org [20:58] NaCl, not gnome, but gnome-panel I think [20:58] so, indirectly :O [20:59] thrice`: yeah [20:59] besides, according to Wikipedia it's a gnome applet [20:59] if you can't trust Wikipedia, well... [21:00] Wikipedia is YMMV osometimes [21:00] I wish I were at Def Con right now. [21:01] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [21:01] lots of good talks scheduled this year [21:02] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Nice Scotty, now beam my clothes up too! [21:05] skillZ (~skillz@modemcable092.144-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:06] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:12] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [21:13] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:15] bernie_ (~bernie@c-98-237-112-144.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:20] any 1 real quick know how to enable support for gconf in gnome [21:20] gnome depends on gconf, so [21:20] bernie_: are you using gsb? [21:20] you don't [21:20] yep [21:21] theres also a #gsb channel btw [21:21] bernie_, maybe be more specific? you're already using gconf if you are on gnome [21:21] of course thereis [21:21] although people might want to anser your questions here as well [21:21] thats what i would thinl [21:22] I promise you are :> [21:22] i installed alltray, when i execute it it tells me that gconf support should not be disabled [21:22] funny [21:22] then you need to compile alltray with gconf support, not gnome [21:23] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:24] yeah im gonna removepkg then build a slackbuild withou gconf [21:24] envery time i install a premade package something happens [21:24] ea_suter (~easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:25] gnome uses gconf for some settings and application options. it's very integrated in to gnome, and it's not possible to be using gnome without gconf :> [21:25] I did have a loss of power before I turned it on and it said 'clearing orphaned inodes'... but the journalling part makes it safe, right? [21:27] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:27] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [21:28] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [21:29] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [21:31] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] I just found a copy of Illustrated TCP/IP for $11.25 :D [21:32] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:32] nice book [21:32] anandamism (~distrust@69-196-147-90.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [21:32] I have some of his other books [21:33] but that one I'm always seeing referenced in ACM papers [21:33] is the centerfold in color? [21:33] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:34] alltray slackbuild compiled and installed, it works! [21:34] Skywise: yes but it's a picture of esr lounging on a deckchair licking an ice cream cone [21:34] thanks guys [21:34] shirtless [21:34] fap fap fap [21:36] ew [21:37] I was shopping on impulse power. I also got the 3rd edition of DNS and BIND. [21:37] Powell's Books is a force to be reckoned with. [21:39] I really wanted to find a good book on cellular networks but oh well [21:40] snowdonkey (bennett@dyn246-03.cod.edu) left ##slackware. [21:44] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:46] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:49] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:51] i bet nobody smells worse than me right now [21:51] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [21:51] except byteframe [21:52] for to be saying my name? [21:52] whyhe? [21:52] usar el bano. [21:52] i said i bet nobody smells worse than me right now [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6A7CF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] then you showed up [21:53] Deodorant is against rasta. I shall smell. [21:54] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:56] goj (~goj@p4FE6AA85.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:56] is usar el bano a euphemism for "talk to jeev"? 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[22:41] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721135528] [22:46] wow, happening place here tonight [22:46] gniks, [22:46] nice idea [22:46] so did 13.1 have kpilot in it? I'm not seeing it in the manifest, or in my kontact. [22:47] I need to find some way to get the data off my old treo and onto my htc evo [22:47] anyone with dual monitor using separete screens without xinerama working in kde? [22:47] mm, I thought kpilot develpment was dead [22:47] Alt_of_Ctrl: I use XRANDR for that [22:47] Alt_of_Ctrl: that is where i will be posting my Linux-PAM how to, not sure if you were part of that conversation earlier [22:47] Alt_of_Ctrl: i have that working, but i used the ATI configuration tool to do it as i have an ATI card [22:47] thrice`: well dead things can be useful too :-) [22:47] mishehu: kdepim package [22:48] gniks, ok [22:48] popl: I have kdepim-4.4.3 installed right now (from slack 13.1), and I don't see any kpilot on my system. any pointers? [22:49] i want to use kde on both monitors, but kde have bug that dont support separate X screens [22:49] there's kdepim, -runtime, and -libs packages all install for it [22:49] I don't use KDE, I just read that kpilot was distributed with kdepim [22:49] so if it's not there then maybe Pat did something with it? *shrug* [22:49] Alt_of_Ctrl: I'm not sure what you're having problems with, and xinerama as far as *I* know it is dead [22:49] i doubt he did that, he ism't one to remove software like that [22:49] but I've got two monitors up and running in X with kde [22:50] i dont use xinerama [22:50] I have half my desktop on one screen, half on the other [22:50] mishehu: xinerama is still alive and kicking [22:50] mishehu, but twinview? [22:50] gniks: *shrug* maybe my mind just inserted that. but what I have read is that xrandr is generally preferred nowadays [22:51] i want separeted X screens without xinerama [22:51] i have the setup on xorg.conf [22:51] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:51] but KDE is dead on 2nd monitor [22:51] maybe I need two xorg [22:52] Alt_of_Ctrl: ill send you my xorg.conf file& you will have to adapt it to your drivers, but the principles will be the same [22:52] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [22:52] yes [22:52] put it pastebin [22:52] *in [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:54] http://pastebin.com/E8Hy1BFa [22:54] hba (~hba@189.130.55.157) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:55] gniks, you disable multihead on KDE? [22:55] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:56] no [22:56] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:56] pupit (~p@109.93.233.219) joined ##slackware. [22:57] pupit (~p@109.93.233.219) left irc: Changing host [22:57] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [22:58] gniks, but how you have two separated KDE windows? or a desktop across the monitors? [22:59] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [23:00] both monitors are attached via the Optoin in Device seciton [23:00] justin` (~justin`@unaffiliated/justin) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:00] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.40.255) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:01] I wonder why no one has submitted a slackbuild for bitpim. [23:01] no one else wants to use it? :p [23:01] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [23:01] that could be the reason gniks [23:02] you should submit one [23:02] also because you can only download the source via svn [23:02] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:02] popl: there are workarounds for that problem. [23:02] there are links on the site to rpm, deb, and exe [23:02] the way around that is you take a snapshot and host the tarball somewhere [23:02] i use slackbuilds.org as my own personal archive for slackbuilds ive made :p [23:03] I might but I have to get it working first. [23:03] hehe yeah, i ran into that issue with neatx a few days go [23:03] right now it's not building. I need to install wxpython [23:03] wasted a whole night on that crap :p [23:03] it's compiling now [23:04] 20MB src tarball, though [23:04] hehe [23:04] at least its gziped up :p [23:04] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:04] compiling ... hhmm ... can you beat that http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4649/virtualbox.png , popl ? ;) [23:04] haha [23:04] jg71: are you compiling on a 64bit machine? [23:05] yes, via qemu. s l o w [23:05] hmmm [23:05] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: rally 'round the family. Pocket full o'shells [23:05] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.38.95) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:05] those packages aren't meant for 64bit& i just downloaded the .run file from the vbox site and that has worked for me :\ [23:06] Is there a specific reason you wanted to compile VirtualBox jg71? [23:06] http://slackheads.org/builds/virtualbox-ose/README.txt [23:06] i couldn't get these packages to run on my 64bit machine& but it seems like there has to be a way as they have a 64bit .run file [23:06] I mean, as opposed to using the pre-made package [23:06] yeah, its the multilib part that broke stuf [23:06] stuff* [23:07] but vbox ose from oracle directly runs natively on 64bit [23:07] all said. i always compile soft i use, popl [23:07] did you read that Oracle changed the name of VirtualBox? [23:07] VirtualSun? [23:07] Now it's something like "Oracle VM VirtualBox" [23:08] freaking redundant [23:08] yeah [23:08] oracle borks everything. did you read about their java foo? [23:08] no I didn't [23:08] what happened? [23:08] i didn't read about the foo, but seeing there name on the java product is weird and scary [23:08] they renamed OO.org too. [23:08] fuck Oracle [23:09] I hope they die like Sun [23:09] :) [23:09] no, we like OO.org [23:09] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=319514 popl [23:09] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [23:09] thumbs: OO.org can live without Sun [23:09] er [23:09] Oracle [23:09] http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oracle-rebrands-java-breaks-eclipse/2012 :) [23:09] The Company [23:09] popl: perhaps. [23:10] popl: but it won't get as much development and recognition. [23:10] thumbs: I guess actual money being paid to people to develop it helps, though. ;P [23:10] thats such a radical concept, popl ;) [23:10] popl: that's my point. [23:10] justin` (~justin`@unaffiliated/justin) joined ##slackware. [23:10] actually I was typing that before you sent that message so it's my point first :P [23:10] oracle marketing people are scum [23:11] s/oracle // [23:11] see, now he has to re-brand his point to your point, popl ... it's the oracle virus spreading already. [23:11] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [23:12] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 620 seconds [23:12] in 5 years we will look back at these times fondly. who knows what we will curse then. googlesoft, appleracle, whatever. [23:12] holy crap I love seeing these warnings about ambiguous else statements [23:12] lazy programmers ftw :P [23:12] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [23:14] and everyone is afraid of 2012? i'm more afraid of oracle taking over mysql! [23:14] or did they [23:14] lol [23:14] jeev: welcome to 2009. [23:14] jg71: everything will be the System [23:14] wpw [23:14] wow [23:14] i guess i shouldn't be afraid anymore [23:14] someone give jeev a time machine [23:14] popl, have you seen hot tub time machine ? [23:14] so he can catch up with the rest of the world :P [23:15] jeev: I refused [23:15] me too. ill use it for something good. like whiskey ;) [23:15] i heard it's hilarious [23:15] I dunno [23:16] Ebert gave it three stars [23:16] dinner for schmucks was funnyyyyyy [23:16] worth seeing then jeev? [23:17] and it's got Crispin Glover in it [23:17] gniks, you seen 24 ? [23:17] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) [23:18] if you get annoyed fast at the fact IE: the guy is 15 feet from the president and is talking about being a conspirator in something then you wont like dinner for schmucks. [23:18] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.35.4) joined ##slackware. [23:18] i mean [23:18] not that you wont like it [23:18] it'll get annoying towards the end but if you dont get annoyed easily at stupid shit then it'll be really funny [23:19] i haven't seen 24 [23:19] i think it's worth the $ [23:19] did you see grown ups ? [23:19] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [23:20] nope didn't see that one either [23:20] wtf, bitpim has an ebuild [23:20] lulz [23:20] I wanted to see Inception [23:20] gniks, DONT see grown ups [23:21] haha why not? [23:21] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:22] worse movie in the history of movies [23:22] haha that sucks for the movie [23:23] whoever was wondering where kpilot went, you use KOrganizer now :) [23:23] gniks: OK. [23:24] Action: nyRednek wonders what kdegames needs(doesn't want to install all of kde) [23:24] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] who has ideas for me to post on my new blog? http://blog.kingrst.com/slackware/ [23:25] setting up autofs for cifs [23:25] Nick change: redtricy1le -> redtricycle [23:26] that sounds interesting [23:26] On that note. [23:26] How do I set up autofs for cifs shares? [23:26] I see a /etc/auto.cifs [23:26] not sure if I should edit it [23:27] probably shouldn't edit it, but it does have to be executable to work [23:28] redtricycle: what version of slack are you on? on my 13.1 system there is no auto.cifs just auto.smb [23:28] gooph (nuser~hkcs@71.21.135.229) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:29] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.104.113) joined ##slackware. [23:30] er, that's Imeant [23:30] that's what I meant [23:31] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:32] oh :P yeah make it executable if it isn't already [23:32] where did you get it though? [23:32] Get what? I'm just figuring out the configuration for autofs [23:32] hum... [23:33] auto.cifs [23:33] that file isn't in a standard slackware install [23:33] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] delt0r_ (~delt0r@188-22-162-39.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:33] pizdets- (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] No, I made a typo [23:34] pizdets- (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:34] not a typo [23:34] what's the memory-version of a typo? [23:34] I had a brain-po [23:34] lol [23:34] I meant /etc/auto.smb [23:34] brain fart [23:34] gotchya [23:34] :) [23:34] anyway [23:34] man auto.master has info on config...im going through that [23:35] yeah... [23:35] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-161-208.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:35] you have to map your filesystems [23:36] gniks, i have two monitors of same size [23:36] *you [23:36] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:36] same here [23:36] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:37] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:38] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:38] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.194.76) joined ##slackware. [23:41] Oh man. Autofs is so easy [23:42] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:44] until it breaks [23:44] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-200-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:45] ive banned suck setups from my network ;p [23:46] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.158.178) joined ##slackware. [23:46] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [23:46] Helloooo. [23:46] hey riza [23:47] :D Hello shonudo. [23:47] Cleaning up now. [23:47] Waiting on grades, still anxious as hell.\ [23:47] cleaning up? [23:47] housekeeping? [23:48] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [23:48] Yep, my roo is a mess [23:49] housekeeping? [23:49] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [23:49] Yep, it means sweeping, cleaning dishes, floor, etc. [23:49] I'm doing mainly paperwork though. [23:50] thats what you say knocking on the door to somebody thats gonna get a talking to [23:50] o.o [23:50] rirombo (~user@h100.5.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [23:52] bitpim relies on apsw [23:52] lame [23:52] I wonder if it's the same guys who wrote both [23:52] gniks: have you thought of adding to slackwiki.org in addition to your blog? [23:53] there's a pathetic lack of documentation for both :P [23:53] My X seems to be broken all of a sudden :( [23:53] I get the following error: (EE) intel(0): Failed to submit batch buffer, expect rendering corruption or even a frozen display: Input/output error. [23:54] I got it for the first time about 20 minutes ago. Restarting X resulted in the same problem. Rebooting the box and starting X afresh also seems to have little effect :( [23:54] yep, same guy [23:54] redtricycle: ive actually forgotten that exists :p [23:54] I hate programmers who take themselves too seriously [23:55] I will not be submitting a bitpim slackbuild :P [23:55] i just generally hate programmers who think they can admin a system :p [23:55] gniks: me too. im not sure how lively it is, but I just added to autofs...wish there was more blogs like yours, actually [23:55] but its be cool to have info in an easily accessible place like the wiki [23:55] (instead of searching linuxquestions and gogle) [23:55] hehe yeah, very true [23:55] i just stated that blog today : [23:55] :p [23:56] in preparation for my How-To to installing PAM [23:58] I had trouble with mplayer svn versions I compiled myself. They would not do vdpau right. Then I download the official mplayer sources and SlackBuild and use it and now mplayer works right! How do the slackware admins know that mplayer from 20100218 is good? Nice job! [23:58] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:59] official, I mean from the slackware sources mirror [23:59] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [23:59] why isn't this stupid pos configure script not honoring mandir [00:00] --- Sun Aug 1 2010