[00:00] agentc0re: the first time I jumped I was lit for hours [00:00] total. fscking. adrenaline. [00:00] antiwire: I still have to make it to 25 jumps to get my A license but i then get to pay the cheap rate. [00:01] antiwire: Did you get video/pictures? [00:01] yeah [00:01] Same. [00:01] I have been meaning to covert my dvd to avi so i can youtube it. [00:01] yeah same here, except the gorilla strapped to me was a dick [00:01] he grabbed my head [00:02] Same here. Are you saying just on the way out? [00:02] on pull [00:02] weird. [00:02] my exit was nearly perfect...for a tendem exit at least [00:02] tandem* [00:03] Today i learned how to turn. [00:03] hello [00:03] man, you're making me want to start up again [00:03] I kind of have a bum shoulder, have had 2 surgery's on it now, so when we turned left it was hard to pull out of it. i think i did a couple 360's. It was totally sweet. [00:04] agentc0re: I honestly think that most sheeple couldn't handle the rush [00:04] antiwire: Heh, no. Thats why they only go once. [00:04] lol [00:06] i can tell you one thing though, if i was that tandem master with that fine piece clipped to me she'd be feeling more than the jetstream [00:06] antiwire: You should go again. It's great. I'd really like to become an instructor/tandem instructor so i can "give back" the joy that i go when i first jumped. I've noticed that some of the guys that do the tandems aren't nearly as cool as the dude i got. He was mostly why i made the choice to start to do this. [00:06] antiwire: HAHAHHA [00:07] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426562.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:07] antiwire: Not sure if you had to do this, but they joke about it on the ground. When the student has to jump up on the tandem instructors lap they have the boys wiggle but the girls don't. [00:07] lol! they did make some joke like that [00:08] There were these fine looking women that came in today and i started joking around with the other jumpers about how the tandem instructors would have them wiggle when hooking up. [00:08] she dead fished it [00:08] that was a weak exit she caused [00:08] she was flopping [00:09] Wow, seriously these chicks were straight up hot looking utah carbon copies. High maintenance but, damn they were hot. Got all dressed up to have it all messed up during the jump. [00:10] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [00:10] I've showed a few people the video of my first jump and the no so sharp ones always ask "does it hurt when you pull the cord and go flying back up?" [00:10] ... [00:10] makes me want to slap them [00:10] eh, tandems don't even really matter. The student can do whatever and you'll still fly belly down because of the instructor. [00:11] Actually, the tandem does once you know how soft the pull is on a solo. [00:11] well, they think you go flying up..it's the damn camera man flying down still [00:11] lol [00:11] yeah thats true. [00:11] Looks worse than it actually is. [00:12] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.25.102) joined ##slackware. [00:23] my BCE complaint == bug with freebsd i think [00:23] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=135091 [00:23] wtf, it's not even my report [00:27] bijit (n=chatzill@200.122.188.156) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" [00:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] shit, iwent to the office.. i unplugged the wrong cable. [00:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) joined ##slackware. [00:29] i unplugged the iLO2 ethernet [00:29] and put it on gig [00:29] ba [00:29] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:31] SHIT MAN [00:32] i went to the office and unplugged the wrong cable [00:34] jeev: go back [00:35] Arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "fuiiii !" [00:35] i dunno [00:35] i'm getting tired of putting the alarm [00:35] zGhost (i=ninjazac@unaffiliated/zghost) left ##slackware. [00:35] tear the alarm out. [00:35] i didnt know about netstat 1 [00:36] input (Total) output [00:36] packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls [00:36] 2247 0 4532994 4099 0 5547141 0 [00:36] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.145.205) joined ##slackware. [00:36] In 99.2 Mb/s (10.4%) 54.4 Mb/s (5.7%) 34.9 Mb/s (3.7%) [00:36] Out 4777.3 kb/s (0.5%) 2686.4 kb/s (0.3%) 1774.6 kb/s (0.2%) [00:36] that's the graph [00:36] from the switch, not snmpd. [00:36] so it's obviously 34.9mbit out [00:36] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.145.205) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:36] the input is totally off. [00:36] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.145.205) joined ##slackware. [00:36] i could just upgrade the system at the office to 7.1 anyway [00:37] i mean 7.2 and try it, i dont think gigabit is necessary [00:37] wow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJVHtF8GwI&feature=related [00:38] guys, i'm having an issue with timidity and playing audio [00:39] i installed timidity and freepats...put a startline in my rc.local to start it on boot(and it starts) but no audio when using kmid [00:39] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.178.101) joined ##slackware. [00:40] I'm trying to upgrade my conky for apcupsd support, and it keeps failing on "libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libX11.la'" grr [00:41] hahahahahahahah the new geico commercial is HILARIOUS [00:44] wicked lag [00:44] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:44] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:44] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:45] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [00:46] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:49] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection timed out [00:50] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:50] hey Old_Fogie :) [00:50] hello rk4n3 [00:50] hello all [00:51] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:52] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: "Leaving" [00:52] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [00:53] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [00:53] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.178.129) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:55] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [00:57] Hey Old_Fogie, how are you? [00:57] Old_Fogie: did you ever investigate that DCC bug any further? [00:58] no, but if it happens again, I'll not come back here [00:58] hey firebird619 [00:58] "here" as in freenode? [00:58] yup [00:59] rickbr (n=rick@189.105.34.84) joined ##slackware. [00:59] antiwire, stop picking fights. [01:00] Old_Fogie, its not freenodes fault [01:00] how am I picking a fight? [01:00] wtf? [01:00] i'm messing with you; turd. [01:00] Old_Fogie: Did it seem like i was picking a fight with you? [01:00] Old_Fogie, you wont irc then. i've seen it happen on efnet and every other network [01:00] i'm kidding!! [01:00] i keed [01:00] well you're not funny [01:00] samantha brown is sort of sexy [01:00] how so [01:00] oh well then how bout this, it's so funny, then I'll leave now then. [01:00] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:00] not funny at all. [01:00] lol [01:00] that guy is a moron [01:00] wow. [01:00] why doesn't he just update his antivirus [01:00] wtf [01:01] it cant be his router. [01:01] jeev: he is not a moron. [01:01] his router wouldn't disconnect from irc that fast, it'd take enough pings [01:01] then ping out or time out [01:01] how come thumbs? [01:01] jeev: you, on the other hand, have been less than mature. He is/was a regular for years. [01:02] jeev, thumbs is right...running off fogie isn't cool in the slightest [01:02] I was just curious if he fixed it router, AV, or firewall software. I didn't think that was picking a fight with him. It was a serious question as trolls have been using that lame bug for a while now [01:02] yosii, i ran him off? [01:02] antiwire: you weren't. you asked a simple question that imo anyone would ask. [01:02] he said if it happens again, he'll leave [01:02] Action: jeev thinks antiwire is defending me [01:02] is that true?!?! [01:02] jeev: you, just like that chowasomething idiot, are newcomers. You are entitled to respect the regulars, especially if they've been here for years. [01:03] i'm not defending you, jeevs. not at all [01:03] toastyto1st (i=1000@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:03] damn antiwire. [01:03] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [01:03] do you think i picked a fight with him ? [01:03] firebird619, i got a question for you...slamd related [01:03] thumbs, people who take a suggestion to update their software and rather leave than find the cure shouldn't be circulated in public [01:03] yosii: Hmm, ok. I don't use slamd, but what's the question? [01:04] jeev: you can drop the argument now, trust me. It will be beneficial for you in the long run. [01:04] firebird619, how to get sound out of timidity after installing freepats/adding rc.local init line [01:05] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.145.205) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [01:05] yosii: what exactly are you doing and not getting sound from? [01:06] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [01:07] firebird619, i installed timidity and freepats, then init timidity with timidity -iA -B2,8 -Or -EFreverb=0 & then i try to timidity (my midi file) the file plays, but no audio comes out [01:07] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.72) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [01:07] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:08] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [01:08] i get this error... No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 25 - this instrument will not be heard [01:08] yosii: did you source the freepats.cfg from tmidity.cfg? [01:08] yosii: ok, sec. I'll try it here and see what happens. I'm on 12.2. [01:09] XGizzmo, didn't think to do that [01:09] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:09] fwiw, it mentions doing that on the SBo page for freepats. :P [01:10] yosii: give that a try and let me know if that fixes it. [01:10] firebird619, ah...i just installed it off builds.slamd64.com with no mention of it [01:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426562.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:10] ah, ok. [01:10] Hi XGizzmo_ How are you? [01:11] Not bad [01:12] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:14] was on phone [01:14] thumbs, i may be wrong but he was too. i'm done! [01:14] dropped like a packet on 7.2-release if_bce ;) [01:14] firebird619, XGizzmo, thanks [01:14] fixed [01:15] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:16] yosii: good to hear. :) [01:17] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:18] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) joined ##slackware. [01:20] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl5-183-17.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:22] geez, my total messaging logs are over 100MB now [01:22] that's including IRC and other IM protocols [01:22] plaintext too [01:23] wow [01:23] firebird619: do you talk to old_fogie outside of this channel often? [01:23] firebird619, another q, on the bristol package, must one download the engines separately? [01:24] antiwire: no I don't. not at all actually. [01:24] firebird619: k [01:24] hahaha, my logs are only 12.3 MB. :P [01:24] antiwire, he'll be back on within a week [01:27] nvm, bristol doesn't exist on it [01:28] jeev: hopefully, your behaviour will be more appropriate then [01:28] thumbs: one can only hope [01:28] thumbs, i dont see how you could blame me, i honestly only warned him. [01:28] [10:00pm] Old_Fogie, you wont irc then. i've seen it happen on efnet and every other network [01:28] how is that anything bad? [01:28] i've done so much worse. [01:28] it's like talking to a girl on pms, he'll realize i didnt insult him in a few hours. [01:28] i didnt mean to insult him if he thought i insulted him. [01:29] jeev: that's also part of the problem. The perception we have of you triggers resentment. [01:29] jeev: he didn't need warnings - he's a respected regular who recently had an issue with some dumb-ass doing something through the IRC connection that upset him, and he didn't need your crap [01:29] wow, even rk4n3 is ganging up on me.. i must've done something terrible. [01:29] jeev: keep up the attitude, and you might get a warning from the ops. [01:29] thumbs, i dont see how i could say something differently, how would you have worded that ? [01:30] jeev: just disrespectful - it'll pass, but you're better off just letting it do so instead of arguing about it [01:30] i was trying to help him but apparently fighting is in the air today with everyone. [01:31] jeev: it was unfortunately not a context that was going to accept the "light-hearted" delivery of your help [01:31] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:32] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.72) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-199-123.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:32] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [01:34] The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (51% of Full) [01:34] it's still just not quite there enough to blame [01:34] heh [01:34] you just made me feel like i'm in middle school again lol [01:34] waxing gibbous [01:36] rickbr (n=rick@189.105.34.84) left irc: "Saindo" [01:43] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:47] atom_fox (i=1000@122.55.123.119) joined ##slackware. [01:49] atom_fox (i=1000@122.55.123.119) left irc: Client Quit [01:53] isn't a waxing gibbous at 51% just over a 1st quarter? [01:55] yeah [01:56] jeev: its because you are a communist [01:56] whaaaaa [01:57] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-88-174.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [01:57] I really don't understand americans, they think that government funded health care is socialism, but not giving money to failing companies [01:58] oh, you're talking about that [01:58] aceofspades19, that's exactly what i say. [01:58] of course i'm the #1 hated person in this channel but.. [01:58] i dont think obama had a choice with this stupid bailout [01:59] aren't bailouts the opposite of capitalism? [01:59] aceofspades19: I don't really want to get into it with you about this but what you see in the various media conduits does not reflect the thoughts of all Americans. [01:59] antiwire: well obviously [02:00] aceofspades19, what happened is very simple. the bailout was approved because wallstreet controls the economy. [02:00] if they didnt get their money, they'd pull the prices down, demolishing the country. it was extortion [02:00] jeev: isn't that ilegal? [02:01] aceofspades19, in my opinion, it was extortion.. and obvious, but other people dont think about it that way, i'm sure 99% of the americans in this channel disagree with me. [02:01] that's just how i think it worked. [02:01] Not even stairs can save you from communism [02:01] if the bailout didnt happen, those people would get pissy, it's free money.. [02:01] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] jeev: so its supposed to be capitalism, you are only supposed to get money if you work for it [02:02] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.148.119.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:02] aceofspades19, i dont know what's going on in this country.. the people in america are too busy trying to get out of debt, drink lattes and watch LOST that they dont know what's going on.. and as soon as you speak out, you're not a patriot. [02:03] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] and thats why I live in Canada where the majority isn't completely retarded [02:05] "Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." -Oscar Wilde [02:06] aceofspades19, patriotism and terrorism is thrown around like the word "like" [02:06] as soon as theys pray it from their dirty rotten mouths, people bend over and ask the government reem them in the back, only to make sure to protect them [02:06] that's exactly what's going on in america. [02:06] at least the US still has true freedom of speech [02:07] canada has these so called "hate speech" laws [02:07] aceofspades19, i dont know what you consider true freedom of speech, going outside and yelling, sure. say something on the media and get blasted for life [02:08] "Congress shall make no law abriding freedom of speech or of the press" - First admenment to the constitution of the US [02:09] aceofspades19.. the government keeps taking away constitutional rights to protect us. [02:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:13] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [02:15] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:18] _nheco (n=nheco@201-66-156-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [02:19] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:22] Axius (i=samyw@92.82.68.62) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [02:32] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.187) joined ##slackware. [02:33] I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this price is wrong: http://dickensurl.com/af11 [02:33] staples.com, chair ^^^ [02:33] for that price, that chair better transform into something spectacular. [02:35] whoops, sorry, that link didn't work. http://tinyurl.com/lrgcjl [02:36] I got to it anyway. Apparently there is an 12345 zip code. :P [02:37] did you see the price? :P [02:37] yup :) [02:37] for a piece of steel with some fabric. [02:37] well, not steel, but you know what I mean. [02:38] and hard on the ass to boot. [02:38] $9,999,999.99 for a chair, my gosh. [02:38] hahaha [02:38] exactly, those things aren't comfortable. [02:38] http://tinyurl.com/nvbqcd [02:39] not to mention it's a special buy. I'd hate to see the regular price. [02:40] now that chair antiwire linked to would be worth that money, but that piece of metal and fabric would not. [02:40] lol [02:40] antiwire: the back on those chairs look like the ones on the NASA we've been watching. [02:40] antiwire: you have one of them? :P [02:40] haha i wish [02:40] chopp: i was wondering that myself too [02:40] if they were using aerons [02:43] how can I empty the contents of a file? [02:43] I have a great chair myself.......AT MY EX'S! [02:43] ouch [02:43] :P [02:46] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.22.133) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:46] chopp: so in other words, you no longer have a great chair (i.e. chown ex:chair great_chair --- permissions have now been set to ex's) :P [02:46] dissocia1ive: dd if=/dev/zero of=/file.txt count=0 [02:47] nheco (n=nheco@201-66-156-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:48] firebird619: haha, no actually I just need to get into a place where all my belongings will fit. [02:49] ah I see. :P [02:50] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:50] I just got a script for opera that automatically closes tabs that have been idle for a certain amount of time, which can be customized by the user. [02:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429122.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:51] slKIvs (n=ivan@69.79.77.77) joined ##slackware. [02:51] I've allways got a ton of tabs open in firefox. I don't want them closed though. :P [02:52] I've got about 50 distributed across three windows. [02:52] It's a neat idea, but it could cause havoc too. It'd be a good way to play a trick on someone, set the script to 1 min or something and then let them sit there and watch the tabs disappear and go "What the heck." :D [02:53] ccfreak2k: whoa, 50 tabs. FF? how much memory is that taking? :P [02:53] slKIvs (n=ivan@69.79.77.77) left irc: Client Quit [02:53] 150MB commit charge I think. [02:53] Well, 144 or so. [02:54] wow, how much ram you have? [02:54] 1GB I think. [02:54] fortune: Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain [02:55] lol [02:56] People who claim they don't let little things bother them have never slept in a room with a single mosquito. [02:56] nheco_ (n=nheco@201-66-156-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:57] nheco_ (n=nheco@201-66-156-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:57] cool, I just got about a 3 paragraph fortune. [02:58] and here it is: The first thing seems interesting. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14344 [02:59] rroy (n=jr@adsl-69-229-127-38.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:59] 2848 xxx 20 0 357m 198m 28m R 84 9.8 117:51.57 firefox-bin [02:59] gg flash [03:00] haha [03:00] I had read an article about FF 3.5b4 and someone reviewed it and said they didn't find any memory leaks and performance was good. [03:01] well i can't blame ff for this though, flash is running [03:01] at least not completely blame ff [03:01] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [03:01] yeah, flash is bad too. [03:02] whoa, in NZ, seven bulls exploded and caught fire after power lines fell in a dairy farm. Anyone like flame broiled meat? [03:03] "flash is bad" heh. [03:03] Hi rworkman [03:03] That's like saying "Sex is good." [03:03] hahaha [03:03] nheco (n=nheco@201-66-156-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:03] nheco (n=nheco@201-66-156-176.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:03] good hello [03:04] good hello? there's a bad hello? :P [03:04] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:04] Of course there is. [03:04] It's spelled different though. [03:04] lol [03:05] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [03:05] Well, I can thankfully say then that I've only ever received the good ones. [03:05] Bojevnik__ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:12] I just read a bit of scrollback, and while I perhaps didn't see the context from *before*, that appears to be a misunderstanding... [03:13] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86-46-225-228-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:14] rworkman: about my question to old_fogie? [03:14] is there a reason slackboy isn't op'd [03:14] It really was an honest question [03:14] I'm not sure Old_Fogie actually fully understood what is/was happening with the DCC bug, but it's not something peculiar to freenode OR him -- it's happened to alienBOB several times too. [03:14] slackboy hasn't been op'd since the last netsplit. [03:14] that slackboy was affected by that is. [03:15] jeev shouldn't have called him a moron either way, I suppose :-) but ultimately, I didn't get the impression that anyone was trying to run him off. Just FYW. [03:15] er, FYI :) [03:15] antiwire: right; again, I think the snarkyness between you and jeev got misinterpreted by Old_Fogie as being directed to him [03:16] does write protect can be enabled by software in a usb stick? or how does it works? [03:16] rworkman: I think you're correct [03:16] dissocia1ive, mount it read only [03:16] yeah, I'll take jeev's snarkyness, been taking it all day [03:16] Action: antiwire slaps jeev with a large trout [03:16] jeev: but what If I use it in a windows infected machine? [03:17] yea dissocia1ive, i'm not sure about that [03:17] in windows, you've gotta make sure autoplay is off. [03:17] Well, that's not my ball of wax. Try to keep it civil, at least in here, because honestly, nobody cares if you love/hate/buttfuck each other. [03:17] :D [03:17] it happened already [03:17] haha [03:17] bad timing. [03:17] damn dissocia1ive, sorry [03:17] hehe rworkman [03:17] well we spooned but that's where it all went downhill [03:17] oh lol [03:17] it happened already [03:17] antiwire, are you having a total eclipse of your heart? [03:18] well anyhow I myself dont use windows for my personal computation needs [03:18] computational* [03:18] i use slackware on a system at the office for desktop but dont like to much. so used to winblwos. [03:18] I dont want other things writting to my personal data without my consent [03:19] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:19] dissocia1ive, i think if windows had a penis, it'd rape us.. [03:19] I was in a channel once when some trollin' SOB joined and sent one of those DCC strings, probably ~150 people disconnected [03:19] heh [03:20] freenode k-lines for that now [03:20] One of those rare moments when I wish I had a 100k-bot network... [03:20] Part` (i=part@archlinux/trusteduser/Part) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:20] haha yeah [03:22] rworkman, rare moments? every time i get kicked off a cod4 for talking smack at people shooting through walls, i wish i had a 100k botnet [03:22] tooly (n=theo@e178175032.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:22] cod4s 4 fagz [03:22] jeev: so this poo stirring is common thing for you i take it? [03:23] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] jeev's...whipping up some poo-stew [03:23] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-24-126-175-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:23] yea antiwire, i've always been an outcast [03:23] i speak the truth but people get pissy at me [03:24] has anyone else poked the maintainer of hostapd on SBo for an update? [03:24] beep beep firebird619 [03:24] Hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [03:25] firebird619, look up! [03:25] whoa, belgian super cows: http://www.divinecaroline.com/22063/75623-gigantic-belgian-monster-cows [03:25] heh yea saw that a while back [03:25] if they get larger brains, they'll take over man kind [03:25] planet of the moos [03:27] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [03:28] firebird619, i drove to minneapolis earlier with the intention of staying the night at one of my friends since she hasnt seen him last since he was 2weeks old. but her house was super messy and hot which made him all fussy and spitting up [03:28] echo Hello, people! [03:28] so after a couple hours of screaming i just turned around [03:28] that was 6hrs round trip wasted heh [03:29] nix_chix0r: wow, I guess. that's too bad. [03:29] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:29] I seen today on the news, northern MN is in a Freeze, and some parts frost, warning. :P [03:29] that and she is a miss know it all when it comes to parenting [03:30] oh, that's not a good type to be. [03:30] she said everything i was doing was wrong:P [03:31] that's why he screams with her and not me;) [03:31] lol, Well I doubt that you're doing things wrong, from what I know (i.e. what you've said here and the pix you've shared) he's a happy, healthy little boy, so I'd say you're doing a great job. [03:32] i think so [03:34] Every parent does things wrong - no way around that. Doesn't invalidate your point though :) [03:34] exactly, no parent, nobody for that matter, is perfect, mistakes are made and you learn from them, but having a know it all attitude about things is certainly not the right state of mind to have. [03:35] i was raised by wolves like Romulus and Remus [03:35] antiwire: and look how good you turned out. :) [03:35] lmao [03:36] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:36] speaking of slackboy, is he a standard bot with mods or a custom freak? [03:37] I've never played with IRC bots [03:37] ooh, my memory sucks. [03:37] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [03:37] i used to have like a 48 bot botnet [03:38] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [03:38] RAWR! [03:38] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [03:38] lol [03:38] jeev: how'd that work out? [03:41] what [03:41] oh [03:41] it was during the day where we'd exchange packets all day [03:41] i was the lone gunman [03:41] against groups all the time, taking channels [03:43] are there any specific botnet laws yet? I assume the standard 'illegally accessing a computer system' laws apply but has anything botnet specific been drawn up yet? [03:43] not sure what the point would be ... [03:44] oh no [03:44] it wasnt' a ddos net [03:44] a irc bot net [03:44] i got out of packeting the crap out of people when ddosing started to get popular [03:44] "illegally accessing a computer system" should be sufficient [03:44] trinoo, stacheldraht and i forgot the other one [03:44] they were all my friends [03:44] those were the names of the original ddos stuff [03:45] rk4n3: well, I think we could classify them differently. For example someone just busting into a system vs. someone rounding up 100k systems for mass scale mayhem. [03:45] i had single servers that would rape the most stable efnet server, irc.best.net heh [03:45] i was a bad kid [03:45] 100K counts of illegal access should be sufficient :) [03:45] rk4n3: lol [03:45] yeah fair enough [03:47] I just installed my first slackware64 system - its cool seeing 8G show up without any recompile or PAE enabled :) [03:47] souphead (n=souphead@112.198.130.27) joined ##slackware. [03:47] all you slackware64-current testers are making jealous. I don't have a system that support EM64T yet [03:48] antiwire: check out new computer parts - PhenomII CPUs and mobo's are very affordable [03:48] ... as is RAM :) [03:49] you can build a pretty decent computer for like $300 [03:49] That's highly doable too [03:49] I think i just might make a budget universal Slackware testing system [03:49] yeah, and if you have a case and maybe a spare HD already, that cuts the cost down even more [03:49] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-225-228-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [03:49] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:50] got it and got it [03:50] you know what pisses me off about building a new system [03:50] power supply. [03:50] sweet :) [03:50] yeah, the good ones can be pretty spendy [03:50] OS: Windows Vista Professional 6.0 SP1 (Build #6001) CPU: Intel Core i7 CPU 940 @, 2.97 GHz, 0KB Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (1920x1200x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Memory: Used: 1/4096MB Uptime: 1d 13h 33m 48s HD: Free: 1451.46 GB/3390.69 GB Connection: Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 3728.29MB Sent: 269.62MB) [03:50] i was looking at modern power supplies the other day since it's been a while since i've actually built my own system. they are all modular now. it's freaking cool [03:51] 12 gigs of ram [03:51] Good night boys and girls and Shrp_Edge [03:51] heh night [03:51] night superGear [03:51] nite [03:54] jeev: you're running Vista ? [03:54] yea man [03:54] :/ [03:55] why? [03:55] i didnt like xp64 [03:55] and i NEED windows. [03:55] for what? [03:55] jeev: my sympathies ;) [03:55] :> [03:55] gamezes [03:55] i'm just uses to it man [03:55] dont worry, i have 40+ *nix servers [03:55] what do you need windows for jeev ? [03:56] games man [03:56] battlefield 2, call of duty 4 [03:56] i'm just so used to it man [03:56] I use a Windows box for games too, but I don't actually *use* it ... that would soil my brain [03:56] you know [03:57] i could consider dual booting.. [03:57] but i dont know. [03:57] Later everyone. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. Take care. :) [03:57] jeev: how are you used to windows when you run *nix servers? [03:57] later firebird619, even though you pmsd at me [03:57] aceofspades19, i'm not good with x and stuff.. [03:57] sort of a noob [03:57] 'night firebird619 :) [03:57] jeev: whats so hard about using x? [03:57] not hard man [03:58] aceofspades19, i will consider dual booting [03:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [03:58] the more i use it at the office the more i get comfy with it [03:59] grazymax (n=grazymax@host128-192-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [04:04] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.178.101) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:10] anyone knows how to find the actual IP adress ranges for a respective country? [04:11] arin / ripe [04:11] maxmind geolocation [04:11] IANA [04:15] firebird noooo [04:15] Frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:16] too many ip ranges for securing my sshd [04:17] is there a way to specify an initrd with lvm support from the installer disc? example: hugesmp.s root=/dev/vg/root rdinit= ro initrd=/foo/bar ? [04:17] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.84.132) joined ##slackware. [04:17] I need to be able to ssh to my box when I'm outside but I dont want sshd listen to all internet addresses and the ip ranges from my country are too much [04:17] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [04:18] hi [04:18] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.72) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:18] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:19] dissocia1ive: have you considered a port knocking solution? [04:21] dissocia1ive what are you trying to do [04:21] prevent brute forcing? use fail2ban [04:21] I will use pubkey authentication only though [04:22] but still I dont like sshd listening to the entire internet [04:22] dissocia1ive: unless you're experiencing some amazing amount of hits you probably don't need to go too crazy on the IP banning [04:22] fail2ban is pretty nice though [04:23] or you could whip up a quick iptables rule to limit the number of connections to a what ever port you have sshd listening on and block out offending ip address for * amount of time.. [04:23] denyhosts is also good [04:23] chopp, he said he doesn't want to [04:24] ;D [04:24] dissocia1ive: isn't your firewall supposed to take care of letting port 22 be accessible only from certain IP addresses/ranges ? [04:25] http://rlworkman.net/conf/firewall/sshattacks [04:25] and on that note, afk to sleep a while [04:25] honestly, keeping on top of sshd security updates and using key auth only is pretty damn safe [04:25] rworkman: :) [04:26] i move my sshd listen port up to some crazy high, random port just to avoid the dumber bots too, not really for security though [04:27] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:27] :) [04:28] I did that already [04:28] ok ladies [04:28] sleep time [04:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:28] dissocia1ive: so you've got the latest sshd version, use key auth only and run on a non standard port? [04:28] night [04:28] dissocia1ive: i'd really say you're pretty damn safe like that [04:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429122.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:30] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [04:30] dissocia1ive: are you experiencing some sort of high load from the system dealing with connection attempts? [04:30] I have the lastest update from slackware 12.1 and I just setup key auth only and try to use a random port [04:31] wow, slackware64 is there :) [04:32] what will happen to slamd64 since slack became officialy 64 bit [04:32] dissocia1ive: openssh-5.1p1-i486-1_slack12.1.tgz ? [04:32] danger. [04:33] http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-5.2 [04:33] I am in no way a spokesman or expert, but I'd expect that the great work done on slamd64 would be assimilated into slackware64, if it already hasn't been [04:33] yes [04:33] you might want to rebuild it yourself [04:34] I feel an SSA coming soon... [04:34] SSA ? [04:35] Slackware Security Advisory [04:36] but maybe not, i miss read the versions [04:36] dissocia1ive: have you mentioned yet what symptom/issue you're trying to solve ? [04:37] rk4n3: it seems just like he's concerned about ssh based attacks [04:37] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: "KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/" [04:37] trying to mitigate not yet known security related issues or things like that with sshd [04:37] dissocia1ive: you might consider using the stock build scripts to build up the newer version [04:38] it looks to me like 12.1 patches has 5.1p1 but the latest is 5.2p1 [04:38] -current has 5.2p1 [04:39] dissocia1ive: OK, any particular reason why you consider sshd a viable attack vector ? Normally, something as widely-used and widely-scrutinized as OpenSSL/SSH isn't worth questioning without a reason ... [04:39] rk4n3: I feel like he's pretty safe if he uses the latest version and only key based auth on a non standard port [04:40] but that's me, and fail2ban isn't difficult to implement [04:40] antiwire: agreed - though I'd say "latest version" is no assurance of much, only versions with *known* issues need cause concern [04:40] because I'm a security paranoid [04:40] almost [04:41] I run lighttpd+sendmail chrooted [04:41] well from 5.1 to 5.2 there were security fixes but I don't know how critical [04:41] dissocia1ive: my point is that if you're just "casting about for holes", sshd is not the first place to look without specific reason... [04:42] I'd be more worried about a browser exploit lol [04:42] sshd is pretty damn safe [04:44] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.25.102) left irc: "‚»" [04:46] antiwire: well, it was regarding about some looseness in ssh protocol definition [04:46] antiwire: it's good to patch ;) [04:46] stybla: that last update? [04:46] for openssh you mean right? [04:47] antiwire: it was dated q4 2008 [04:47] antiwire: yes, openssh [04:47] antiwire: but it was mitm type of attack, i think. [04:48] yeah that's worth an upgrade ;) [04:48] if it's a mitm you can pretty much count on metasploit creating a attack module for it [04:48] an* [04:50] Frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: [04:51] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [04:52] antiwire: "In 2008 a cryptographic vulnerability was found in SSH-2 which allowed retrieval of up to 4 bytes of plaintext from single SSH stream under special conditions[8]. It was fixed by changing default encryption modes in OpenSSH 5.2" ;) [04:52] dios_mio (i=test@88.244.193.178) joined ##slackware. [04:52] ah that sounds scarier than it actually is i think [04:53] i think you're right :) [04:53] BuGi (n=Adium@79-107.unused.derbynet.waw.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:54] antiwire: http://www.cpni.gov.uk/docs/vulnerability_advisory_ssh.txt - if you are interested [04:54] always ;) [04:54] "However, the [04:54] likelihood of a successful attack is considered LOW." [04:54] damn :) [04:58] tooly (n=theo@e178175032.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [05:02] yrg141 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:02] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:02] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:03] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-12.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [05:03] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.174.97) joined ##slackware. [05:04] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-12.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:05] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-12.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:37] s/run/contain [05:37] yeah :) [05:37] Action: Camarade_Tux goes to desk4 and starts eduk32 \o/ [05:37] so i dont have to build it.. :) [05:38] no :) [05:38] Action: compl3x watches chriss rock [05:38] Nick change: Pleuguin{away} -> Pleuguin [05:39] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [05:41] is there a kernel in the distriburion 12.2+ that has the >4GB of mem enabled? [05:45] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:48] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:49] frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:52] does any 32-bit system suppport >4GB of ram? [05:53] yes, with a recompiled kernel enabling PAE [05:54] allright, so there is a trick to that ;) [05:55] I almost thought people would have skipped patchy workarounds, because 64-bit oses are kinda ready and have been for a while [05:55] CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y [05:56] slackware64 is available now, too [05:56] oh, wow! [05:57] 64-bit can still be touchy, because sometimes software has to be tweaked to run on it, or the software's build process sometimes, etc... [05:57] anyone used abobs script the mirror 64 yet? [05:57] That means it's time for me to go 64-bit :). (this far, adopting new software when slackware does has been a *great* choice personally for me :) [05:57] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "De profvndis clamo ad te Domine." [05:58] yeah, me too :) [05:58] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [05:58] I actually just built my first slackware64 system ... going well so far :) [05:58] rk4n3: did you use abobs mirror script? [05:59] nope - I just rsync'd the slackware/slackware64-current and built my own DVD from it [05:59] ah okay [06:00] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-109-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:00] slackware.mirrors.tds.net is where I rsync'd from [06:03] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC029D5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-187-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: [06:14] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) left irc: "Leaving." [06:14] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [06:15] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [06:17] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-69-164.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:31] lem (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [06:31] wow, its 5:31 on 05/31 [06:31] cool [06:31] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:38] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:38] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:38] antoni` (n=user@48.pool85-53-12.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [06:39] hi all [06:39] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.224.146.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:39] have someone installed slackware on a netbook? [06:42] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [06:42] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.224.146.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:43] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:47] BuGi (n=Adium@79-107.unused.derbynet.waw.pl) left irc: "Leaving." [06:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:48] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:48] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC029D5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:49] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [06:52] antoni`, yes, why ? [06:54] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.146.8) joined ##slackware. [06:56] exbio (n=exi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:03] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-95.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Bojevnik__ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:08] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:08] Camarade_Tux: how do you do that without cd-rom or dvd? [07:09] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:09] antoni`, you would use an usb key : look inside the usb-and-pxe-installer(s) folder, there is a README_USB.TXT file which explains everything [07:10] (you need a 64MB usb key) [07:10] Camarade_Tux: ok I will read that file. ty [07:10] :) [07:20] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:21] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:22] evo- (n=evo@91-67-161-20-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [07:27] He3HauKa (n=seenka@balticom-172-25.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [07:29] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-95.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [07:34] antoni` (n=user@48.pool85-53-12.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:35] Nick change: Herman -> Hermann [07:44] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7da20bbe7145e03a) joined ##slackware. [07:44] have somebody installed slackware-12.2 with/at LVM? [07:44] i've ended up with /etc/fstab missing fs types :) [07:45] [but it works in x86_64-current ;)] [07:46] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [07:49] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:49] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:50] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.224.146.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.72) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [07:58] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-182-72.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] hey, is there anyway to have my laptop automatically ssh to my server so that I have access to it from my server at any time? - maybe I want something like vpn? [08:02] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:04] hackeron: yes, vpn or tunnel are there for you. [08:07] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [08:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:07] is there a link to help page on booting from a usb stick? i have it booting, but on boot 'sda1' panics [08:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:08] i'm loading initrd [08:09] Pleuguin (n=Pleuguin@ACaen-251-1-8-27.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" [08:11] t0f, it depends on which boot "loader" you are using : grub or usbboot.img ? [08:13] Camarade_Tux: hm, usbboot.img? i just mirrored a /dev/hde1 partition and edited the fstab [08:13] and chroot'ed and ran lilo [08:14] kama (n=kama@host170-32-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:15] t0f, could work too, are you sure the initrd has the modules for usb ? [08:15] slackware's usbboot.img is used to boot the slackware installer from an usb key [08:15] (so not what you seem to be looking for) [08:16] Camarade_Tux: there are more than one module to load? perhaps this is my mistake [08:16] kama (n=kama@host170-32-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:17] wait, i'll plug it in and chroot [08:18] Camarade_Tux: i'm afraid wants something like slackware from usb, not an installer of slackware. [08:18] Dimitrije[S] (i=Dimitrij@91.148.89.20) joined ##slackware. [08:21] stybla: yes, you think i should do a fresh install and then when promped say "make the usb stick bootable" [08:23] I don't think that would give you a full system but rather a boot disk which you can use to chroot to your system afterwards [08:23] another problem is that on this piii it loads as /dev/uba. but on the athlon it loads as sda [08:23] that's why grub is nicer on usb sticks : you can edit the boot command-line during the boot [08:24] oh? ok i'll look into grub [08:25] how about to use slax instead? [08:25] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-143-202.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:26] stybla: slax? there is another idea [08:27] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if alienBOB has worked on the live scripts he talked about [08:28] http://linuxconfig.dyndns.org:1184/lazy/LazyLinuxWiki/Upix/Upix_LiveCD/DVD [08:28] He3HauKa (n=seenka@balticom-172-25.balticom.lv) left ##slackware. [08:28] i just don't feel like thinking for somebody else today :s [08:29] t0f: what another idea? it comes from slackware, it's done, somebody else did it ... dunno. [08:29] at least, you can take ideas from there... [08:29] slax comes with slackware 12.2? oh ok [08:30] "A 6GB tmpfs ramdisk is created and mounted as /root-ram when the kernel boots into the initrd RAM disk. ".......... hmmmm [08:30] 6GB ram disk... I want the same ! [08:30] oh my ... "Based on Slackware distribution. " [08:30] Camarade_Tux: *cough* :) [08:30] t0f, slackware doesn't really come with slackware, it uses slackware-current though [08:31] Dimitrije[S] (i=Dimitrij@91.148.89.20) left irc: [08:31] bojevnik (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] evo- (n=evo@91-67-161-20-dynip.superkabel.de) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [08:33] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [08:34] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-137.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:35] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:39] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:41] slackware comes with 10% more love than another competitive leading brand. [08:41] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:42] http://pastebin.ca/1442222 has the contents of the chroot'ed stick "cat .config |grep USB > /USB-.config" [08:42] probably of no help [08:43] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] it's an 8G pny stick [08:43] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-95.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:44] why don't you try to rape eg. usb stick installation? [08:45] Rape isn't funny [08:45] my PC was raped by a USB stick :( [08:45] i'm confused. what else is new ;| [08:46] what are you trying to do? [08:46] get a USB stick to work? [08:47] superGear: slackware at usb stick. [08:47] superGear: yes, trying to get the stick to boot [08:47] ah [08:48] never had luck with that [08:48] tho didn't really try hard [08:48] the bios supports it [08:48] hm, only if i could recall. [08:48] mine does too [08:49] t0f: but it wasn't hard. the biggest problem was to get bootloader at usb stick and i recall i've used something else than lilo and grub. [08:49] t0f, have you tried with grub ? [08:49] and it seems to boot rather quickly (as sda) as uba it loads like a dog, of course [08:50] Camarade_Tux: not yet (grub) [08:50] grub may work [08:51] i have some man pages to read as i've never tried grub on any system as of yet [08:51] reading is good [08:51] yes :) [08:51] Camarade_Tux: I have not worked on 'live' scripts yet, but at the time I could not tell you that all my time was consumed with slackware64 [08:51] maybe you should teach others how to do it [08:52] a friend of mine had a slackware system on his usb stick, and he used grub but I don't recall the details [08:52] alienBOB, hahaha, sure, I see ;) [08:52] Camarade_Tux: sounds like a plan, thanks for all the tips people [08:53] Ekc_ (n=iskar@79-100-25-232.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [08:53] grub is quite easy to install : grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt/usb_stick /dev/sd_my_usb_stick [08:53] it usually hangs if I don't use --no-floppy (no floppy device here) [08:54] Action: superGear doesn't use grub [08:54] but i have with other distros [08:54] grub; what for? :) [08:54] at some point, I couldn't get lilo to work, it just wouldn't, so now I use grub [08:55] lilo has never given me problems [08:55] I had installed grub on a friend's eee for the same reason but I had to reinstall the boot part earlier this week and lilo worked perfectly :) [08:55] tho i can see using grub as it is easier to use [08:55] the problem was that the lilo process succeeded but on the next reboot, nothin [08:55] g [08:56] tho i do like if you error on grub you can fix it at the grub loader [08:56] and not have to use a CD/DVD [08:57] i'm just wondering - initrd, what for? isn't _that_ a failure? [08:57] i had no problems with getting slackware to usb. [08:58] if i remember correctly, at the panic it lists all the devices that i can use as '/root' and sda or uba are not listed [08:58] t0f, forgot to ask, have you tried using the huge kernel [08:58] alienBOB: ping [08:58] Camarade_Tux: no, just my custom build [08:58] there we go :) [08:59] ah ok THERE is a plan [08:59] t0f, you might try with it then, just to be sure you haven't forgotten anything [08:59] Camarade_Tux: right! [09:00] WooHoo! i got wifi working on my laptop with a modified firmware :) now to fix that blasted pos ati mess [09:00] doh ! /me was looking for a string in vim and looped through the whole file at least half a dozen of times >< [09:01] emac [09:02] hmmm, "-bash: emacs: command not found", I don't know this editor, what is it ? :D [09:02] Camarade_Tux: do you think it might be helpful to repartition the stick and make sda2 as a swapspace? [09:03] t0f, no, it would probably be awful, a real torture [09:03] ok [09:03] usb sticks aren't good enough for writes [09:03] s/usb sticks/most usb sticks/ [09:04] this one is a 'pny' [09:05] ah there goes my inet connection. thanks and later [09:05] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: "leaving" [09:05] hard to say, it depends on the brand of the memory module [09:05] later [09:07] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.163.127) joined ##slackware. [09:08] greetings from northern Canada:) [09:08] hi from France hitest [09:09] hi appzer0:) [09:09] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs appzer0 :) [09:09] :) [09:09] hi hitest :) [09:09] hi Camarade_Tux:) [09:09] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Camarade_Tux: hey are you so happy to see me? [09:10] thanks anyway [09:10] Action: appzer0 hugs Camarade_Tux back [09:10] appzer0, I'm under the impression we're two of the three french people on the channel ;) [09:11] oh I see [09:13] I see there's a "Dinde" (turkey). Is he/she the third frenchie? [09:13] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.224.146.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:13] moshe-pgh (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:13] moshe-pgh (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.174.97) left irc: "Leaving" [09:14] he was not the one I was referring to but considering his whois info, I think he is [09:14] mib_3ozs0g (i=4e0e58fe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49c7935dc4370066) joined ##slackware. [09:14] actually, we may be something like 5 ;p [09:14] Action: wobbles chortles at 'frenchie' In this part of the world, that is the slang expression for a condom :-) [09:15] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [09:15] yeah, probably because we use many of them -_- [09:15] Action: Camarade_Tux is already outside [09:16] hi all, i've a question about slackware and mdadm... Is possible configuring mdadm to execute auto-resync after mirror break? [09:16] is there a kernel in the distibution with >4GByte memory enabled? [09:17] i dont think so. You'll have to activate this in make menuconfig and compile kernel yourself:/ [09:18] Ok, thanks, I now how to do that, but it's easier to use if available a already compiled kernel. [09:18] lem1: the stock slackware-12.2 kernel supports 4 gigs of memory [09:18] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.25.144) joined ##slackware. [09:19] I saw a discussion about it some months ago.. [09:20] otoh, there is slackware64-current [09:20] I always recompile the kernel : activating preemption and optimizing for Core 2 [09:20] (and getting rid of many modules included in -generic [09:21] is the slackware64 a direct replacement for the slackware current? [09:21] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-95.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [09:21] what do you call direct replacement ? [09:22] appzer0 I think I do the same, make a custom compile of the kernel.. [09:22] lem1: not at all. slackware64 is not released yet as stable that's all. [09:22] "-current" means "development version" [09:23] Install the slackware64 kernel tree instead of the slackware version or if you can mix them .. [09:23] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:26] eeepc is better with windows according to Asus! [09:28] I guess they get more money by selling ones with windows :) [09:28] that what they are really saying [09:28] (either because they get money over the licenses, or because the ones with windows have more expensive hardware) [09:28] gotta read between the lines [09:29] mib_3ozs0g (i=4e0e58fe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49c7935dc4370066) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [09:29] or paid/sponsered third party software [09:30] http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ [09:31] another possibility is microsoft asked them to say so in exchange of rebates on win7 [09:31] oh! superGear that has already been proven to not come from asus, go to slashdot and read the +5 moderated comments [09:32] I suspect Asus gets a healthy kick-back from M$ for saying that Winders is better than Linux [09:32] that is just some windows fanboy's fud [09:33] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [09:33] but i dont doubt microsoft pays for third party fud from both companies and the more prominant tech websites & blogs [09:33] naw, it's a silly ad [09:33] tell me people, am I going insane ? :) [09:33] ? [09:33] So the Korean War war may continue now :/ [09:34] Since it offically never ended [09:34] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-170-177.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [09:36] north korea has less support from china and russia now [09:36] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-137.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:37] ravigehlot (n=ravi@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [09:38] ravigehlot (n=ravi@216.189.209.126) left ##slackware. [09:40] ravigehlot (n=ravi@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [09:40] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-143-202.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[10:03] hi LnxSlck:) [10:03] hi hitest [10:03] :) [10:04] just enjoying my recent updated slack [10:04] nice [10:04] wdyy (n=yy@123.80.25.144) left irc: "‚»" [10:04] Action: stybla has updated to constant slack [10:04] -current? [10:04] yes [10:04] i had current for a while [10:04] but spent like 2 month's without updating it [10:04] now i have the new txz packages ;) [10:05] running slack 12.2 here with a newer kernel. I'm looking forward to Slackware64:) [10:06] yes, i know it will be great [10:06] agreed [10:06] not sure if i'm willing to give up my current config though [10:06] ill see [10:07] You should be able to upgrade from slackware to slackware64 if you are careful [10:07] toastyto1st (i=1000@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] martian (n=xtd8865@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:08] alienBOB, humm.... not my middle name careful [10:08] lol [10:08] heh [10:09] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] but i believe that many things are still missing from the 64 world [10:09] such as? :) [10:09] don't know [10:09] flash? [10:09] no, working [10:09] adobe reader? [10:09] google earth? [10:09] picasa? [10:10] argh, non free [10:10] google tools are [10:10] at least they have free versions of it [10:10] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:10] afaik there is a nice kde4/t4 app with the same functionnalities as google earth [10:10] s/free/libre/ ;) [10:11] people use adobe reader? eek [10:11] Camarade_Tux, can you explore Mars with it ? [10:11] thrice`, i use the one from kde4 [10:11] okular i guess [10:11] LnxSlck, dunno, not using it (not using google earth either) [10:11] Camarade_Tux, it's a great tool [10:12] but there are/will soon be 32bit compat packages [10:12] Axius (i=samyw@92.85.208.159) joined ##slackware. [10:13] http://edu.kde.org/marble/ [10:13] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] http://edu.kde.org/marble/screenshots/0.7/mars1_thumb.jpg :) [10:14] or rather http://edu.kde.org/marble/screenshots/0.7/mars1.jpg [10:14] Camarade_Tux, nice [10:14] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [10:14] :) [10:17] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:18] Camarade_Tux: cool! [10:19] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:19] too bad it's not on sbopkg [10:19] and no need.. it comes by default [10:19] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [10:20] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] I love marble. It uses openstreetmap and that makes it more up to date than my routeplanner... [10:21] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Camarade_Tux: is there a way around highlighting operators in gvim , #vim channel is not that welcome to my question [10:23] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [10:23] init[1], why you wont use vim ... ? gvim is fine ..but vim cli is better [10:24] i just use vi [10:24] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-139-199.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:24] init[1]: what do you mean "a way around" ? [10:24] init[1], no, no idea [10:25] joe is a good editor, very common sense [10:25] Action: Camarade_Tux has a secret project around openstreetmap, but it's secret XP [10:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.84.132) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:25] ALVAN: it hav not problem with using any vim , i want a feature of operator highlighting [10:25] *i [10:25] I have no problem with using ... [10:26] Camarade_Tux: so u use default color mode [10:26] init[1], actually I use the desert scheme ;p [10:27] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:27] kevin__ (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Camarade_Tux: can i share color scheme i have written to highlight operators , only problem is since comments have /* */ they are also considered operators [10:28] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:29] Darrin (n=darrin@d207-6-116-35.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] Hello, is this the official support channell for slackware? [10:30] Darrin, no. But it's the unofficial one. [10:30] nmoura (n=nmoura@200.184.145.136) joined ##slackware. [10:31] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] lol ok thank you. Then my question is . Where is the link for the 64 bit version in the download pages? I am unable to figure out where it is. [10:32] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:32] init[1], I have a two liner for you ;) [10:32] Darrin: there is no release of the 64-bit port yet. you can install the development version, or wait until slackware 13.0 releases [10:32] Darrin: slack64 is in testing right now, it will be available for slack v13 - othwerwise you have to try the -current tree [10:32] syn match test "+" [10:32] hi link test Keyword [10:32] Darrin, it doesn't really work like that. The dvd iso won't be available until slackware 13 comes out. If you want slackware64 right now, you have to install it from a mirror [10:32] I've got current installed on my eeepc 1000he, but function keys and sound aren't working. Anyone know how to fix this? [10:33] google isn't turning up specifics [10:33] Camarade_Tux: that mean i can paste bin if for you [10:33] it [10:33] thats fine, I just want to download it , not buy dvd's. [10:33] jumperboy, sound... i'm not sure about, google your audio hardware. [10:33] Darrin: use rsync(1) [10:34] init[1], the two lines I just pasted can highlight +, and there is no problem with comments afaict [10:34] I have -current installed on mine, and kde randomly decides not to respond to my keyboard, I have to ctrl+alt+backspace out of the x server and restart it [10:34] jumperboy, the function keys might 'work' and just not be bound to anything. [10:34] nv4Phil, how do you ctrl alt backsp if you have no keyboard input? [10:35] is it just me, or amd64 is faster with 32bit rather than with 64bit? [10:35] hiptobecubic: that's the only input that works, everything else fails [10:35] it's just you :) [10:35] oke :) [10:35] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:35] you mean with desert ! [10:35] init[1], yeah [10:35] hiptobecubic: using stock fluxbox, which has several bindings for functions keys [10:36] hiptobecubic: ha, suddenly working, thanks for the nudge [10:36] I took a look at syntax/ocaml.vim which highlights some operators [10:36] now for sound... [10:36] Hello BP: I dont understand, sorry. [10:36] man, with fluxbox's fullscreen view for all windows, who needs a netbook remix? [10:36] ubunt* ? =D [10:36] jumperboy, ok [10:37] sQuEE (n=narya@host123.201-253-245.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Camarade_Tux: try ++ / = += [10:37] toastyto1st (i=1000@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Darrin: please, write this down or something. there is not yet an official .iso of slcakware for 64-bit [10:38] init[1], all working [10:38] thrice`, Hold off the dogs. He's not a slacker yet, he's working on it :) [10:39] lol ok. fine have a nice day [10:39] Darrin, wait [10:39] what [10:39] how many times can the same question be answered ? [10:39] no worries bye bye [10:39] Darrin, what _would_ be on the cd is available online. What you need to do is download it manually and install it yourself (or burn a cd ) [10:39] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host17-63-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:39] Darrin (n=darrin@d207-6-116-35.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [10:40] advising someone like that to install a development version of slackware is not ideal [10:41] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [10:41] thrice`, he was lacking some fundamental knowledge of unix tools, sure. But i don't feel like making him feel like an idiot is the best way to get him there. [10:42] he asked the same questions in #slackbuilds about a half hour back, and got the exact same answers [10:42] thrice`, in fact, saying what you just said probably would have been enough to let him know that he's not prepared to ruin his computer with a failed half-complete installation [10:42] thrice`, they only look like the same answer if you understand all of the answers [10:42] it was said to him, in #slackbuilds :) [10:42] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] thrice`, there's a #slackbuilds ? [10:43] :D [10:43] wow, camera works out of the box on current: mplayer tv:// [10:43] hiptobecubic: are you willing to support him step-by-step through all the ups and downs of installing -current and maintaining it? : [10:43] :P [10:43] there's only so many ways you can say "64-bit slackware is not released yet" [10:43] polatov (n=polatov@212.154.177.216) joined ##slackware. [10:45] BP{k}, no of course not :D What i'm saying is that it would have better to tell him that doesn't have the skill do it if he doesn't understand the answers we've given. Not just "we're done helping, go figure it out" [10:45] I feel like he might be ruining his computer as we speak :D [10:46] Camarade_Tux: im bit unlucky here , none of my c source highlight operators :( [10:46] hiptobecubic: he's probably the type that can ruin is computer by just leaving him alone with it over the weekend. [10:47] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [10:47] init[1], can you 'gvim a.ml' and type '=' in ? is it highlighted ? [10:48] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.130) joined ##slackware. [10:48] BP{k}: agreed - which takes skill, in my mind ;) [10:48] dusty_ (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:49] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.130) left irc: Connection reset by peer [10:49] BP{k}, That might also be true, but I know when I was moving from winux to lindows, half of my problems were just that people were answering me in linuxian instead of something more abstract. "go download the files yourself" is more obvious than "there's no iso, rsync the dev tree" [10:49] thrice`: sure, we will need these people in the upcoming war against the machines ;-) [10:49] toastytoast (i=1000@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:49] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.130) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Hey guys, I have just installed slackware 12.2 on my laptop. Have it working a treat. I am struggling trying to configure dual monitors for it though. I use an Intel: GM965/GL960 graphics card. How would I configure the second monitor.. as I used my laptop for work, I tend to hot desk and plug whatever monitor in that is close by.. how would i best go about configuring this ? [10:50] hiptobecubic: when I started we just bought the wallnut creek cd-roms .. *and* were happy with it! ;) [10:50] dusty_, try running 'xrandr --auto' from a terminal [10:50] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-176-206-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] "=" is highlighted but none of arithmetic operators are [10:50] Camarade_Tux: [10:50] init[1], that's expected but I don't get why you don't have that for C [10:51] Camarade_Tux: You are amazing! :-D [10:51] dusty_ :) [10:51] Camarade_Tux: if you dont mind can you paste bin your /usr/.../vim/../syntax/c.vim [10:51] I forgot about xrandr, I think I could configure them this way. Once I have it working right using xrandr how can I get it to stay like that on boot? or do I Just need to bung the xrandr commands into a script ? [10:52] dusty_, there are more options to xrandr to tweak it more (clone, position, ....), just xrand --help and man xrandr ;) [10:52] there is also a nice kde xrandr tool in kde4 :) (not sure about 3, as it's been too long since I've tried it) [10:52] I wish it were that easy with the nvidia cards. I had to learn xorg.conf from scratch [10:53] dusty_, I'd put the command some script that gets executed when X boots or when you want to configure your display, note that if X starts with the monitor already plugged, it will automatically set your monitor (I don't know if you can give it settings though) [10:53] Camarade_Tux: if you look at it for syn "keyword Coperators "you will find that on size_t is defined [10:53] hiptobecubic, that's what made me stay with nouveau.ko instead of nvidia.ko, but now that nouveau.ko requires xorg-server>=1.5... ='( [10:53] imean sizeof [10:54] jumperboy, my camera doesn't work in mplayer out of the box, only vlc [10:54] hiptobecubic: 1000he? [10:54] Camarade_Tux, nouveau.ko? tell me more :) [10:54] hiptobecubic, well : http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ [10:54] yeah, it needs some gem stuff [10:54] Camarade_Tux: Awesome! So now, when I plug in a monitor, boot up, it should mirror the desktop automagically ? [10:54] but as I said, it requires an xorg-server that is more recent than what is available on slackware =/ [10:54] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, will man xrandr, just forgot about it ;-] [10:55] dusty_, as far as I remember, yes :) [10:55] Camarade_Tux: Awesome! [10:55] Thanks dude. [10:55] Solaris makes a good foot massage. Isn't that right kitty kitty... *pets* ....He is warm, and vibrates feircely, in good rhythm. (purrs) [10:55] I love cats :P [10:55] btw, the webcam on an eee 1000 (no h or e) works out-of-the-box for slackware 12.2 [10:56] I think alienBOB / chess have an 1000he, which wokred all out of the box on -current IIRC. [10:56] what the hell kind of brand is "eee" [10:56] jumperboy, no. HPDV6000 (terrible machine) [10:57] nv4Phil, asus eee [10:57] nv4Phil: asus eee. [10:57] ah [10:57] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:57] BP{k}, PWNED ! :D [10:57] alsaconf runs fine, but still can't hear anything [10:57] Camarade_Tux: damm you! [10:57] lol [10:57] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:57] Camarade_Tux, "nouveau" ? French devs? [10:57] hiptobecubic, several are ;) [10:57] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:58] well, several means two or three here ;p [10:58] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:58] init[1], /me really doesn't know [10:58] Camarade_Tux: Hrm, check out this: http://pastebin.ca/1442360 <-- any idea why that is complaining ? [10:58] :) [10:58] Ahhh, do i need to add a virtual line to xorg.conf i wonder.. [10:59] I never did get my fan to turn on... I guess now I'm waitin to see how long -current will stay -current [10:59] I'd run -current if I had an eee - lots of kernel improvements :) [11:00] dusty_, likely [11:00] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [11:00] does anyone have a WD My Book USB HD ? [11:01] ok let me play thanks again [11:01] sahko, is it one of the HDs with a special button ? [11:01] dusty_, yw :) [11:01] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Camarade_Tux: http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Essential-External-WDH1U10000N/dp/B000VZCEUI [11:02] ok restarting X - fingers crossed. [11:02] dusty_ (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: "please work =]" [11:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.163.127) left irc: "leaving" [11:05] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-152-52-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:05] sQuEE (n=narya@host123.201-253-245.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [11:11] vintx (i=vintx@201.53.180.10) joined ##slackware. [11:14] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:15] sQuEE (n=narya@host123.201-253-245.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:16] http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.12fab6f6c00a65e15e6fb5e305aacbb7.41&show_article=1 a super lazor [11:17] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:19] lol, Schwarzenegger speaking about (potential) weapons :p [11:19] Action: Camarade_Tux wants a railgun ! à la The Eraser [11:20] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [11:20] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] gm152__ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:22] i could imagine that lazor on a large aircraft knocking out missiles if it could be installed in a large aircraft [11:23] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-95.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:23] knock out missiles, enemy aircraft, tanks & artillery [11:24] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:25] Pig_Pen it's "laser" not "lazor" ... stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. [11:26] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [11:26] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.108) joined ##slackware. [11:26] jumperboy: I have an ACPI scripts package for the eeepc - you'll need that to get some function keys working, as well as make the volume/mute audio functions work [11:26] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:27] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Look for eeepc-acpi-scripts [11:27] alienBOB: would something similar to that help my Fn hotkeys work on my HeLL OnFireon 1501 [11:28] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.108) left irc: Client Quit [11:28] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] nv4phil - with ACPI scripts for an eeepc I doubt that [11:29] alienBOB, note where I said "something similiar to that" [11:30] vintx (i=vintx@201.53.180.10) left irc: [11:31] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:32] gm152__ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:35] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:36] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:48] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:49] martian (n=xtd8865@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:50] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] He3HauKa (n=seenka@balticom-172-25.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [11:53] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [11:53] He3HauKa (n=seenka@balticom-172-25.balticom.lv) left ##slackware. [11:57] Camarade_Tux: still there [11:58] just found the solution for the vim problem , the regex pattern ... [11:58] init[1], what where you using ? [11:58] thing is by default there is not operator highligthing afik [11:58] i will show the o/p to u [11:59] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Camarade_Tux: can i share the html file with you [12:03] its o/p from vim [12:03] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:03] hope you got it . [12:04] i just love my custom colorscheme .. [12:04] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [12:04] hey [12:04] yes [12:04] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-225-228-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:05] so whats good folks? [12:05] init[1], yeah, nice :) [12:05] hi Cann0n :) [12:05] hey Camarade_Tux [12:06] :) [12:06] black bg saves energy ..:P [12:06] ... [12:06] init[1], only one CRTs ;) [12:06] :P [12:06] on LCD screens it actually use more power :) [12:07] s/use/uses/ [12:07] Sure ? are you omg [12:07] trunning the dim settings down on an lcd will save a fraction of a fraction! [12:07] btw, I've noticed having a white bg instead of a black one even saves a few minutes on a laptop ! [12:07] s/trunning/turnning [12:07] and s/nn/n/ ;) [12:08] Camarade_Tux: :) [12:08] it all depends really... [12:08] but when more pixels are highlighted it takes more E .right [12:08] init[1], the reason is that to display a color, an LCD screen blocks the others and blocking a color uses power [12:08] let it be a crt/lcd .. [12:08] how hot it gets, what you are running, etc [12:09] Camarade_Tux: ooh . [12:09] heh. Being forced to use a white bg for everything would save me lots of power: I'd stop using the computer, so it wouldn't use any... [12:10] (you need to set an electric field so the crystals in liquid crystals are oriented in a specific position [like a compass] for them to let a color pass) [12:10] Urchlay, hehe :p [12:10] the most energy saving PDA is a pencil and paper [12:10] Pig_Pen: lol.. [12:10] hate to say, but if you are worried about what color to set your background to increase power savings, just look into rebuilding your own Li-on packs [12:10] put a flashlight behind the paper, and you get an idea why white bg is bad for your eyes [12:10] Cann0n, that was curiosity ;) [12:11] besides, working on a white background gives me headaches [12:11] dios_mio (i=test@88.244.193.178) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:11] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:11] technology is disposable [12:11] yeah, my background is black, not white [12:11] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Leaving" [12:11] I dread using windows, as everything has a white background [12:12] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.225) joined ##slackware. [12:12] yup, technology is so easily disposed of that we pollute third world countries with it, enough to cause cancer in its inhabitants [12:13] Camarade_Tux: yeah, but their are some people out there that would rather aquire techniques to save power in order to save an extra 1.50 USD per year, than shut off their computer for an extra hour once a week... [12:13] Pig_Pen: sad isnt it? i still have an Apple IIe [12:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:14] before i throw any old PC away i give them to someone that can use them, i have a niece that uses some ancient junk PCs with 133mhz cpu & 64 megs ram with win2k & office97 [12:14] lol [12:15] i am her free tech support when she or her husband cant fix it, [12:15] Pig_Pen: You must really hate her. [12:15] i gave my 700Hz celeron away, shortly later that person got a laptop and old betsy is rotting away on the floor in a corner... [12:15] Pig_Pen: im sorry... [12:16] i gave a pretty damn good 3ghz p4 (i mean good for old), 2gb ram to my little cousin [12:16] i hate that tech support crap. lol [12:16] they fried it the first day [12:16] i like her just fine, just that she would rather use old junk because it is either free or very cheap, she has three kids to take care of, food, clothes & bills to pay [12:16] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [12:16] jeev: my uncle crashed a windows computer 4 times (4 fresh reinstalls) in one day. [12:17] heh [12:17] but didnt fry it [12:17] the little kids kept plugging it in and out [12:17] id shank them with a broken bottle [12:17] hehe [12:17] she is not a computer entheusist, to her it is just another tool (she does accounting & taxes in her spare time for cash) [12:17] hey yall [12:17] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Cann0n: Or even better a broken sippy cup. [12:17] hey compl3x [12:18] agentc0re: lol [12:18] hey Cann0n [12:18] heh broken sippy cup [12:18] Action: compl3x is starting to like kde4 ]= [12:19] i hate people that call me a "computer whiz" normally they think i can type faster and for them... but i always refuse. qwerty isnt my layout [12:19] compl3x: is it bloated? [12:19] i can't type for shiz [12:19] Cann0n: Please don't tell me you use devorak. [12:19] at least you are not having to use a chisel & hammer on stone [12:19] Cann0n: not too bad, but my system was built for gaming so yeah [12:20] agentc0re: yep :) [12:20] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-43-76-29.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:20] lol Pig_Pen [12:21] How fast do you type on devorak Cann0n? [12:21] dvorak. and i dunno... never clocked it [12:21] agentc0re: its dvorak isnt it. not devorak [12:22] a lot faster that qwerty i tell you that [12:22] really? [12:22] AH, thanks. [12:22] do you need a special keyboard? or use a standard one with the dvorak keylayout? [12:22] make CONFIG_DEBUG_ i i just rearranged my keys [12:23] oh yeah good idea :p [12:23] but you can just change the key map [12:23] make CONFIG_DEBUG_VERSION_MISMATCH=y [12:23] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [12:23] Cann0n: whats the basic gist of it? one handed typing or .. what? [12:24] make Pig_Pen_STOP_THAT=y [12:24] :P [12:24] in xorg.conf, i set both shift keys toggle keymaps so when normally people use it, it's easier for them [12:24] dvzine.org [12:24] Cann0n: illcheck it out [12:25] it's set up so common keys are on stronger fingers. [12:25] Action: compl3x doesnt like to learn something over again [12:25] that was something that scrolled by too fast for me to catch [12:25] i was hoping someone in here knows what it is [12:25] aoeuiy are all on the left hand. along with ',.; [12:26] compl3x: trust me, it's WAY FASTER to learn dvorak than qwerty [12:26] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] wtf is dvorak [12:26] a keymap [12:26] Cann0n: I do about 100 wpm in qwerty - reckon I could do faster with dvorak? [12:27] with time ofc [12:27] weird [12:27] someone said they'd call me to their house for breakfast but i guess they're either not up or forgot [12:27] and im hungee. [12:27] probably not for 2 months, but it IS better on your hands [12:27] jeev: You should give them a call. [12:28] Cann0n: hmm [12:28] qwerty you can tye about 100 words on the middle row. dvorak 1000 words on that one row... you move your fingers less [12:28] no that's too embarassing [12:28] Cann0n: one hand? or two? [12:28] two. but they have one hand keymaps for lefties and righties [12:29] hmm might convert my old keyboard [12:29] jeev: Wuss! [12:29] compl3x: you can set xkb options in xorg to toggle keymaps [12:29] it's just adding 2 lines [12:30] Cann0n: would you like to share? :) [12:30] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:30] sure [12:30] fossfun (n=fossfun@97-94-110-129.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:30] :) [12:31] agentc0re, i dunno.. the wife makes great food hehe [12:31] fossfun (n=fossfun@97-94-110-129.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) left ##slackware ("."). [12:32] See, more the reason to give them a call! :D [12:32] Just givem a call and ask, Oh just curious when i should head on over. [12:32] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151138048.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:32] lolol [12:33] i do have to meet someone near their house now [12:33] "hey, uh, i'm a few blocks away, what are you doing?" [12:34] Yay!!!!! [12:34] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:34] http://pastebin.ca/1442455 [12:34] hitest: ? [12:35] Thankd Cann0n [12:35] agentcore: got my usb mouse and keyboard working on freebsd 7.2!!! [12:35] hitest: After how many hours? [12:35] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [12:35] Cann0n: how would I use that? ie toggle it [12:35] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:35] a few hours:) [12:36] /usr/X11/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst will have a list of options you can install for the toggles [12:36] did the install of frebbsd ysterday [12:36] freebsd [12:36] Cann0n: I mean the one you paste bin - how would I activate that if used. [12:36] compl3x: just stick that in your xorg where it needs to go. switch "dvorak," to ",dvorak" [12:36] hitest: that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Why would you even want to try it if your keyboard/mouse don't even work after install? [12:37] compl3x: to toggle them, just hit both shift keys at the same time [12:37] enabled dbus and hal in /etc/rc.conf using nano, worked like a charm [12:37] asd aoe [12:37] Cann0n: thats what I was after :p [12:37] dusty_ (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:37] oh lol my bad [12:37] Camarade_Tux: Everything is working perfectly! =] [12:38] dusty_, nice :) [12:38] agentc0re, want to call them for me? lol just kidding [12:38] but you might want to have Option "XkbVariant" ",dvorak" [12:38] jeev: Sure. [12:38] I'm now dual booting slackware 12.2/freebsd 7.2 on my main pentium d box. love i:) [12:38] it [12:38] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:38] Cann0n: okay - i dont think im going to do it for the moment as I'm quite busy - will do it when i get some free time , cheers again tho [12:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-95.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [12:39] lol, all yuo gotta do is put it in xorg.conf and forget it. lol. then hit the shifts when you are bored and dvorak will be swapped in [12:39] :) [12:40] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Cann0n: : I normally use UK qwerty , so going from that to us dvorak is going to take some time [12:40] you can even make a xkb led light up if you want... but i only have caps led so i dont use it [12:40] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] dogsoul (i=doggy@dogsoul.org) left irc: [12:41] compl3x: toox me 2 weeks to get used to it. i guess i type about 80ish [12:41] Cann0n: is US Dvorak standard? [12:41] still some errors. 13 years of qwerty lol [12:41] i type like a Neanderthal [12:41] compl3x: it's ANSI standard and comes with all computers today [12:41] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:42] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:43] what's wrong with querty? [12:43] i did the mistake of rearranging my keys... so those little mipples the home fingers rest on are gone... so i have to look at my fingers every few words to make sure they are in the right spots [12:43] errr [12:43] qwerty [12:44] Cann0n: so you suggest I dont move around an old keyboard? [12:44] stybla: it was invented in the 1800's to slow typist down to prevent jamming of typ. writters [12:44] Cann0n: _so_? :) [12:44] s/typ/type [12:44] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Cann0n: don't take it away from me :s [12:45] compl3x: it depends. i made the full switch in one hour. first 3 days sucked but it was worth it [12:45] might keep my keyboard qwery and still tryout dvorak [12:45] stybla: tell that to your carpals [12:45] agentc0re, i think i'll just put on socks and stuff incase. rather than just rendevouzing with my friend and grabbing some stuff [12:45] i'll wait for their call [12:45] greetings bipedal mammals [12:45] gm all [12:45] slackytude: good day [12:45] y0 Cann0n [12:46] agentc0re, i have remote desktop on their computer, i could open an ihop window and they'd remember [12:46] jeev buddy old pal thats creepy. [12:46] s/old/ol' [12:47] ugh kde 4.2.3 is not ready to be officially dubbed stable... it doesntt like hi volume data transfers and ripping/encoding of videos.. plasma keeps segfaulting with err11/15 codes and the only application that segfaults is dolphin everything stays put and keeps running [12:47] VampirePenguin: ++ on the err11/15 [12:47] i wouldnt consider kde stable anyways... but thats just me [12:48] lol compl3x, i know [12:48] compl3x, ?? [12:48] VampirePenguin: I was agreeing with you on the err11/15 thing [12:48] holy moly, his wife just text me.. but not to do about breakfast. [12:48] oh [12:48] i hope she says breakfast, NOW [12:49] ya well if filed a bug.. and they closed it an marked it as invalid bc kde fails to provide any backtrace data... um hello that should be integrated nto the build [12:49] ojk i'll llet you know [12:49] bye [12:49] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [12:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:50] lol VampirePenguin [12:50] bells and whistles will only cause problems [12:51] well debug modules iw ould think would be a mandatory whistle [12:51] jeev: You should totally do that!! [12:51] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] i like the interface overall but if its not realiabe it doesnt do me much good [12:52] VampirePenguin: not really... most of the time you have to compile it with --debug=enabled or what ever [12:52] dusty_ (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: "leaving" [12:52] nods [12:53] well maybe kde 5.5 will be stable [12:53] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.138.91) joined ##slackware. [12:53] i think ill go back to 3.5.10 [12:53] <3 xfce [12:53] fluxbox ftb [12:53] VampirePenguin: 3.5.11 [12:53] ftw* [12:54] Cann0n: I was saying that ... then I finally got round to not hating kde 4 [12:54] thumbs, i thought i had 3.5.10 on my install of 12.2 [12:54] hey slackytude :) [12:54] guess im wrong [12:54] y0 Camarade_Tux [12:54] VampirePenguin: no, 3.5.11 [12:54] lol [12:54] no biggie [12:55] i hate kde. too bloated for me taste. i HATE desktop icons [12:55] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:55] oh i dont keep anything on my desktop for icons long... everything gets filed away [12:55] Cann0n: I had all those same thoughts - but as much as I hate to say it ... it kills me - kde4 is growing on me [12:55] slackware 12.2 ships with 3.5.10, not .11 [12:56] there is no 3.5.11 [12:56] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl12-66-106.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:56] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:56] the icons on desktops i hate are the ones you can not change or delete RecycleBin, Network Neighborhood, crap like that, if i can set my own icons to launch the apps of my choice i like that [12:56] lol i havent tried it. but anything that thats heavier than FF3, i wont use (except amarok and rarely vuze) [12:56] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-139-199.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [12:57] i was using juk which is really nice but when you remove a title from your playlist it also asks if you want to remove it from your hdd [12:57] moshe-pgh (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:57] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0338E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] dont pay attention on that one and youll lose your whole collection [12:58] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:58] lol [12:59] i have 14 GB of music. amarok is my pal. xmms is nice, but damn, try adding one song from 40 different bands with less than 40 clicks [13:00] audacious didnt do to bad either.... i like mplayer off the terminal [13:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:00] i can stick it in screen and then -d [13:00] Greetings everyone. :) [13:00] hey firebird619 [13:00] Hi VampirePenguin, how are you? [13:00] audacious... [13:00] mplayer is alright but amp has better quiet mode [13:01] y0 Cann0n. [13:01] Hey stybla [13:01] hallo firebird619 [13:01] moshe-pgh (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Camarade_Tux, something that might interest you [13:01] y0 slackytude [13:01] Camarade_Tux, http://gmarceau.qc.ca/blog/2009/05/speed-size-and-dependability-of.html [13:01] hey firebird619, how is it going ? :) [13:01] hey firebird619 [13:01] im doing ok, how bout you [13:01] greetings firebird619 ^-^ [13:01] Cann0n: have you tried KDE4? [13:01] Hey Camarade_Tux, going excellent, thanks. you? [13:01] slackytude, hey, I saw it, and I actually have the shootout's code for the mandelbrot benchmark opened ;p [13:01] just the comment about desktop icons makes me think you haven't :p [13:02] hiya firebird619:) [13:02] firebird619, nice, thanks :) [13:02] fred: nope. [13:02] Hey hitest [13:02] Camarade_Tux, Ive found the ocalm printout pretty nice [13:02] :) [13:02] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [13:02] got my mouse and keyboard issues sorted out in freebsd 7.2 [13:02] slackytude, hehe, ocaml rocks :p [13:02] Camarade_Tux, code size seems to be a bit large [13:02] hitest: really, what'd you have to do? [13:03] kde4 looks like vista right? [13:03] Cann0n: http://en.pastebin.ca/1442478 [13:03] Cann0n: unfortunatly yeah [13:03] Cann0n: didn [13:03] enabled hal and dbus in /etc/rc.conf [13:03] Stupid enter -didnt work Cann0n [13:03] y0 compl3x, how goes it? [13:03] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:03] hey birdy :P [13:03] and again damn - good yourself? [13:04] van (n=van@adsl91-196.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:04] hi [13:04] slackytude, the programs in the shootout have been optimized for speed so they are a bit longer than usual ocaml (but it's not exceptional either) [13:05] hi van [13:05] Camarade_Tux, heh, python is one of the slowest but one of the smallest as well [13:05] polatov (n=polatov@212.154.177.216) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:05] Camarade_Tux: ocaml pfffft ;) [13:05] learn a proper language :p [13:05] compl3x: didnt work? both shift keys didnt toggle? [13:05] Cann0n: I pressed both keys - didnt do anything [13:06] slackytude, ocaml has a sweet spot :) [13:06] and without that mandelbrot benchmark, it would be more on the left of chart ;) [13:06] polatov (n=polatov@95.58.12.252) joined ##slackware. [13:06] compl3x, come if you're a man ! :p [13:07] Action: compl3x wouldn't waist his time. [13:07] ;) [13:07] chicken xD [13:07] Camarade_Tux: by valuable time I mean IRC :p [13:07] hmmm... i dunno. looks right. check /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst [13:07] compl3x, hehe :p [13:07] guys i have slack current64,with xfce4....if i want to install k3b which packages must i install from kde? [13:07] Cann0n: what am I looking for? [13:07] Jeev__ (n=Jeev_@m490436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] compl3x: haha, excellent, thanks. :) [13:08] grp: [13:08] lol agent, she said come! Weee. [13:08] good food time [13:08] Damn I love this blackberry [13:08] blackberries are pretty good food [13:08] should work. i dunno. mine works. i dunno about gb [13:09] lolll [13:09] blackberries are expensive, imagine how much you could buy instead of paying the monthly fee ! [13:09] true [13:09] comarade, they shouldn't require the bb plan [13:09] blackberries grow wild here, pick all you want if you dont mind the thorns [13:09] Hi Pig_Pen [13:09] 'comarade' - rofl [13:09] hi firebird619 [13:10] I had blackberries from mexico, had a spider in the container [13:10] lol [13:10] fresh blackberries off the plant are hard to beat [13:10] make good homemade jam [13:10] nmoura (n=nmoura@200.184.145.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] i know a place to get decent chinese clones of shit that are 1/10th the price [13:10] Jeev__, orange iphone subscribers spend 82€ per month on average... [13:10] that's a windows license per month ! [13:10] http://www.chinavasion.com/ [13:10] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [13:11] wth ? the image for 'Home Audio + Video' on chinainvasion.com comes from a french channel [13:11] cellphone watches, snes, sega, nes, ds, and more rom emulators that look like a psp but 3rd the price. and it plays music and vids [13:12] slackytude: that's an awesome article. =D [13:12] Jeevphone (n=Jeevphon@m390436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Cann0n: that's a SWEET site. [13:13] heh [13:13] http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/multi-platform-portable-gaming-entertainment-station-black/ [13:13] i WANT THES SO BAD!!!! [13:13] comarads [13:13] ...mp4 watches? [13:13] i have 4000+ snes, nes, sega, and ds roms [13:13] WTF $95! [13:14] Star wars w/Requiem for a dream AMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRXZ_ImEJ0Y&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div It's pretty sweet. [13:14] thats cheep dude.... [13:14] someone ctcp version me [13:14] look at the options [13:14] Cann0n: that's what I'm saying :P [13:14] Cann0n: at that price you almost can't afford /not/ to buy it. [13:14] Cann0n: it's not just cheap, it's wtf cheap. [13:14] yeah.... it's awesome [13:14] how much is a psp these days? [13:14] yeah... my ipod was 200 [13:14] 150 [13:14] i want a cracked-gameboy imported from North Korea [13:15] maxote: the ones with nuclear launch capabilities? [13:15] yes! [13:15] evil, with or without uranium [13:15] it has 4GB... takes mini SDs, AV out.... [13:15] Jeevphone: meh, depends what's cheaper :P [13:15] Jeevphone: playing with a crackberry? [13:15] obviously with! [13:15] AV out.... you can play old skool games on a TV anywhere any time [13:15] not versino, genius lol [13:15] Jeev__ (n=Jeev_@m490436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:16] hhahaha [13:16] Jeevphone: yea, typo :P [13:16] lol [13:16] and it has an FM tuner... [13:16] I thought that was me [13:16] my keyboard reads keys left to right, I swear! [13:16] dude... i want this as much as i want a new skateboard.... which is a lot [13:16] van (n=van@adsl91-196.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [13:16] 2 keys are redundant, one key is sufficient for all [13:16] I've got a watch in my car worth more than most cars, I want it. I have the gold one and white one, I want the black [13:17] James, so are you going to version me? Lol [13:17] already did [13:17] after the versino [13:17] message it to jeev [13:17] oh heh only shows unknowns [13:17] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [13:17] 10:17 CTCP VERSION reply from Jeevphone: jmIrc v0.95 on RIM Wireless Handheld [13:17] err [13:17] hahahah [13:18] hey should I upgrade to kde 423 ? [13:18] that's fine [13:18] eviljames: that is awesome! [13:18] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:18] Cann0n: what's awesome? The jmirc? [13:19] Jeevphone: how much was that app? [13:19] Cann0n: im using it :) [13:19] the emulator station [13:19] actually [13:19] I wonder if a million blackberries on edge could ddos something [13:19] free james [13:19] Jeevphone: NOOOOO!!! the last thing I need is a free way to irc from my blackberry :( [13:19] I can troll from the train! [13:19] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] lol seriously [13:19] eviljames, hahaha, you're doomed ! [13:19] compl3x: dvorak? [13:20] Who is your provider [13:20] telus [13:20] one arm of the Canadian oligopoly. [13:20] compl3x: i bound Win key and f1 to display a keymay.jpg of dvorak [13:20] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] when i was learning [13:21] i'd work for telus, hell yeah. I'd also work for at&t any day [13:21] lol are they edge or 3g [13:21] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Cann0n: taking so long to type tho -- [13:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] compl3x: just have to break the qwerty-isms from your fingerrs. [13:22] Jeevphone: cdma/evdo/1x or whatever [13:22] oh lucky. Edge here [13:22] that took so long to type [13:22] compl3x: yeah. onces you get used to not having to move your fingers 400000 miles a day, it becomes easy [13:23] ]= [13:23] i took 3 qwerty typing classes [13:23] sQuEE (n=narya@host123.201-253-245.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [13:23] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:23] got nothing but soar wrists... with all the masturbating and writting. typing just made it worst. [13:24] then stop masturbating [13:24] masturbating to miley cyrus? Lol [13:24] haaha im getting there [13:24] a fap a day keeps the anger away [13:24] 6 a day* [13:25] bad contex lol [13:25] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:25] grr [13:25] Jeevphone: no, i do it to that kid from home alone 3 [13:26] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.132) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Action: Camarade_Tux is pondering putting that on noobfarm :) [13:26] ping me 15 times let's see if it kills me [13:26] be my quest [13:26] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "xf. xf. Sz =/" [13:26] Jeevphone ? :) [13:26] guest [13:27] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] yeehaw. Breakfast soon. [13:27] hello ? [13:27] I was lagged lol [13:27] sQuEE (n=narya@host123.201-253-245.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:28] sorry, I guess I ping'ed you too much :D [13:28] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [13:28] '* Ping reply from Jeevphone: 4.35 second(s)' :D [13:28] Action: compl3x is not fealing dvorak right now - was taking 5 minutes to write a sentence :p [13:28] err... this is ultra nooby... :-P I am trying to use pan newsreader... how can i add comp.os.linux? what news server do i need to add? [13:28] lol [13:28] compl3x: it takes me 5 minutes to write one sentence on qwerty now lol [13:29] Jeevphone, and that was only the 8th ping, not the 15th ;) [13:29] Cann0n: lol i dont have time right now [13:30] ??? this is the first time ever i am trying a newsreader.... [13:30] njathan: usually your ISP has one. [13:31] if you had the keys rearranged, it would speed the learning process up. but dude, i used qwerty for 12+ years [13:31] Cann0n: its the fact im using a qwert keyboard - so I kept having to look at an image online to know where the keys are. [13:31] then one night i just said fuck it. [13:31] Zosma, you mean i should be asking my ISP? [13:31] njathan: ehm probably it's something like new.isp.com [13:31] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:32] compl3x: yeah. lol its not fun learning it [13:32] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-88-174.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [13:32] njathan: what's your ISP anyway? [13:32] Cann0n: If I had a keyboard with the layout id be fine [13:32] but this laptop... not many people can use it. hence the toggles [13:32] Axius (i=samyw@92.85.208.159) left irc: Client Quit [13:32] Cann0n: no one touhes my pc - not even the gf [13:33] my gf wont touch mine... if she does, i will set her up an account [13:33] Zosma, hehe, good question :-P The entity i buy from is a reseller called "pacenet". I dont know who may be the real one [13:33] i had someone use this laptop once, and they wanted me to do all the nav [13:34] njathan: i just get the news letters in my gmail [13:34] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [13:34] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Cann0n: haha dvorak gps [13:34] i never got pan.... most news servers you will have to pay for. the rest are just god aweful or just like an email [13:35] Cann0n: for forum like discussions they work perfectly fine. [13:35] yeah. true. but why not just use the formums? [13:35] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:36] forums* [13:36] Cann0n: true, it's become a better... mmm lower-entry/effort solution :-) [13:36] Zosma: lazyness lol [13:37] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] bbiab, playing piano while she makes it lol [13:37] Jeevphone (n=Jeevphon@m390436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: "jmIrc destroyed by the OS" [13:37] roro_master (n=roro@41.221.20.228) joined ##slackware. [13:39] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] njathan: try if you can connect to news.pacenet.com? Dunno if it's really from your ISP though. [13:39] Otherwise you can look for open servers. [13:40] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:41] I tried news.motzarella.org (without registering for an account) [13:42] doesn't look like its giving me comp.os.linux [13:44] bbl [13:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:46] Shuren (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:46] hackedhead, glad you enjoyed it ^-^ [13:46] polatov (n=polatov@95.58.12.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:46] njathan: indeed it only lists *very* few then. Maybe try to register an account then, ask your ISP whether they have a usenet server. [13:46] *or ask [13:47] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Zosma, Sounds good.... Thank you :-) [13:48] Aye [13:51] toastyto1st (i=1000@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:51] BuGi (n=Adium@79-107.unused.derbynet.waw.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:54] Ludakrintin (n=krintin@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [13:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Success [13:57] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [13:57] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] meep [13:58] sbopkg ftw [13:58] Cann0n: +1 :) [13:59] :D [14:02] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.132) left irc: "Leaving" [14:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] hey [14:04] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:06] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] nbuonann1 (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:09] nbuonann1 (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:09] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] meep [14:11] hey do you guys know where i can get a patch for 2.6.29 for the sti drivers? [14:11] ati* [14:12] toastytoast, a patch what for [14:12] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:12] Cann0n, nix_chix0r has connected/disconnected a dozen times today ;-) [14:12] the fglrx drivers form wat i've found by looking some the newest 9.5 ati fglrx drivers do not work with 2.6.29 kernel [14:12] Camarade_Tux: yeah, her connection is horrible today. :P [14:13] i've also heard there are some third patch for it made byh the community [14:13] grrr [14:14] is that a no? [14:15] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [14:15] toastytoast, have you actually tried them ? [14:15] yes [14:15] and the exact error was ? [14:16] one sec [14:16] Ludakrintin (n=krintin@41.223.57.77) left irc: Client Quit [14:17] i get 3 errors one ERROR : intall command makepkg second error: install command modinfo then the third one error: i don't have make modules [14:17] I have this retail DVD of Dark Knight and it makes my DVD drive vibrate so bad that mplayer won't play it [14:18] it's brutal [14:18] i did some searcheingn like i said from what i found 9.5 doersn't work with 2.6.29 [14:20] agentc0re, breakfast is being made [14:20] YUM [14:20] i'm on th elaptop [14:20] I just made eggs with toastytoast and butterybutter [14:21] (couldn't resist) [14:21] toastytoast, I don't get them, don't you have anything more verbose ? [14:21] lol [14:21] superGear (i=1000@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:21] antiwire: was it goodygood? :P [14:21] hell yes it was [14:21] but all i had was the ends of the bread loaf [14:21] man if you see the breakfast i'm about to eat [14:21] antiwire: Well, they're good too. better than nothing. [14:21] yep [14:24] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-144-167.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:24] superGear (i=supergea@75-171-185-56.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] hi [14:25] Action: jeev moves away from High_Priest [14:27] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) joined ##slackware. [14:28] http://pastebin.com/m292fc5e7 [14:28] there [14:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [14:30] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] http://www.bigstupididiot.com/2009/02/fertility-problems-youre-doing-it-wrong.html [14:31] those two people must be sterilized before they actually figure out how to do it. [14:31] antiwire, thats embarasing [14:32] and it sounds like a fat woman [14:32] Helping them actually conceive is against all things natural [14:32] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-137.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:33] if two people can't figure out that it's "wrong hole wrong hole" they really shouldn't be taught how. [14:33] antiwire: agreed. :P [14:33] imagine how frustrating the sex must have been [14:33] antiwire : right. because you figured it out all on your own [14:33] I mean, since it wasnt really sex [14:35] ananke: when the time came it wasn't really much of a guessing game. [14:35] ananke, but didn't *she* say anythin ? [14:35] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:36] Camarade_Tux : what? [14:36] Even animals get it right. It's not really something that must be taught, even though it is often taught. [14:36] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A73BB3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] ananke, I can't believe the woman didn't notice something was wrong [14:37] antiwire : congratulations. so you've been able to learn, yet you want to keep ignorant people in their ignorance [14:37] ok you win [14:37] and is there no slackbuild for firegl/fglrx ? [14:37] I'm sure she did - why do you think they went to a sex therapist ? [14:38] no not that i know of [14:39] the point I was hinting at was simply that in a natural setting these two people would have not be able to conceive on their own. [14:39] Camarade_Tux: for ATI drivers, they have an install program [14:39] Camarade_Tux: or the open source ATI drivers come with xorg [14:39] rk4n3, nvidia has their too but there is a slackbuild for it (allows easy/good uninstall, and switch) [14:40] toastytoast, tried http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/fglrx-9.3-patch-for-2.6.29.x-kernel-722858/ ? [14:40] Camarade_Tux: ah [14:40] there was a new fglrx released today, I think [14:41] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:41] anyway, thats one stupid pair [14:41] i hadn't found that yet i'll give it a try thx [14:42] except that it changes the module license to gpl... [14:42] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:43] zachary (i=zachary@adsl-69-209-124-233.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Anyone here use GPG? What is a good GnuPG frontend that's GTK and isn't tied to GNOME? [14:43] I use gpg but I don't use a GUI ... [14:44] zachary: kgpg is a decent GUI [14:44] but i don't think that meets your requirements [14:44] I use gpg but when I use a gui it's in gnome so I'm no help :) [14:45] one of the reasons I avoid GUIs is precisely because of the seemingly constant struggle to fine ones that fit my usage requirements/preferences [14:45] s/fine/find [14:46] rk4n3: I usually use it in a terminal window even when in a gui :) [14:46] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:46] NyteOwl: indeed :) [14:47] ... staying current and sharp on command line usage is the best thing I know of to alleviate the "GUI search pain" [14:47] nbuonann1 (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] I'm currently thinking of switching to XFCE for my GUI [14:51] alot of people like XFCE - it seems to have a nice balance of capability and lean-ness [14:51] <3 xfce [14:51] I myself find it still a little too much [14:52] rk4n3: what do you use? [14:52] rk4n3, yeah, small footprint and nice gui for launching terminals in ^-^ [14:52] i wish you could hide the xfce panel though [14:52] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A7736F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:52] I use twm or fvwm [14:52] ananke, you can [14:52] slackytude2 : how? [14:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [14:52] ... only for VNC desktops though [14:52] ananke: you mean autohide? [14:52] ananke, auto hide or completly disable it [14:52] firebird619 : yep [14:52] I use ion for my "local" desktop [14:52] ananke: the "autohide" checkbox ? [14:52] Action: ananke will have to find that option [14:52] in panel manager [14:53] under "panels" believe it or not ;) [14:53] yeah, its kinda hidden ^-^ [14:53] nbuonann2 (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:53] thrice`: you use XFCE also? [14:53] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [14:53] hey slackytude :) [14:53] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:53] zachary: yes, I do [14:54] I used to use fluxbox but I'm needing something different [14:54] I currently use fluxbox and love it. :) [14:54] y0 rk4n3 ^-^ [14:54] zachary: I hear ya there - I tried fluxbox quite some time ago, liked it for a while, then found it had some quirky mouse/menu behaviors with some apps, got frustrated with it [14:55] I like to scare people with screenshots of my desktop : http://omploader.org/vMW56Yg :) [14:55] hmm, my xfce doesn't have such option in that menu [14:55] I've just found XFCE to balance the power of the GUI and console [14:56] panel/-/+, appearance, position: fixed/freely movable, orientation, handle. [14:56] ananke: using an old xfce? [14:56] Camarade_Tux: that's actually alot like mine :) No desktop menu though - just ion's F12 text menu [14:56] 4.4.3 [14:57] then yes :) [14:57] rk4n3, I don't get how people can complain about it :p [14:57] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Success [14:57] Camarade_Tux: well, of course they want to see glitzy buttons all over the place ;) [14:57] ananke: I'd update to 4.6.x [14:57] rk4n3, and even though I use openbox, I tile windows, my desktop3 currently has 3x3 80x25 windows :) [14:57] rk4n3, hmmm, right >< [14:58] I usually turn on compiz for that [14:58] BuGi (n=Adium@79-107.unused.derbynet.waw.pl) left irc: "Leaving." [14:58] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:58] do some impressive looking but pointless stuff and disable it again [14:59] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] Camarade_Tux: have you checked out ion ? You might like it - it not only tiles, it provides title-bar-tabs, so each tile can actually have more than one window in it (you use the tabs to bring them forward) [15:00] rk4n3: that sounds interesting. [15:00] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [15:01] firebird619: yeah, its cool - check it out and let me know if you have questions :) [15:01] ion is pretty nice I used it for a bit [15:01] rk4n3: k, will do. downloading and installing now. :) [15:01] ananke, Ive got 4.4.2 and I have it in my panels setting [15:02] has any of you experienced any sudden crash running kde 4 with slackware current? i get that some time, but pretty hard to spot the bug when the entire computer freezes. thought it was related to virtualbox using VT-x/AMD-V, that was crashing the computer. but that is turned of now [15:02] nbuonann1 (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] firebird619: I can give you some cool keystroke mappings and such ... [15:02] how can i track the bug? [15:02] rk4n3: cool [15:02] rk4n3, I've taken a look at it and quie enjoyed it but I dont know if I'll change, I should install it here to see [15:02] ananke: are you using the stock slack package, or something else ? [15:03] Camarade_Tux: yeah, it took me a little bit to get used to it, but I'm definitely completely switched now - figuring out some of the config tricks really made a difference too [15:03] rk4n3: I've tried awesome in the past, on other distros, and liked it as well, but it just would not work for me in slackware, it won't even start. :P [15:04] Camarade_Tux | firebird619 : ... for instance, I map Ctl-up and Ctl-down to change tabs in a tile - completely awesome :) [15:04] nice :) [15:04] firebird619: I tried awesome too - hated it [15:04] rk4n3: Is ion added to the sessions list in kdm do you know? [15:05] firebird619: not sure - I've never used kdm :) [15:05] haha, ok. :P [15:06] rk4n3: the ss's look very intriguing. [15:06] k, installed. [15:06] brb, I guess I'll find out if it's in kdm or not. :P [15:07] cool [15:07] [1]roro (n=roro@41.221.20.229) joined ##slackware. [15:07] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:07] doesnt kdm just parse the xinit list? [15:07] Also what is a good minimal login manager that is not tied to any specific desktop environment (GDM and KDM)? [15:08] zachary, slim [15:08] slim [15:08] zachary, on sbo [15:08] zachary: xdm [15:08] Thank you guys :D [15:08] I just recently got back into slackware, last used it on the 9.1 release [15:08] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] oy, thats oldschool [15:08] xdm is good if you can actually make it better looking then it is and only want to log in on one desktop/window environment [15:09] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:09] rk4n3: heh, nope, it isn't. :P [15:09] http://slim.berlios.de/ ... they need a new maintainer [15:09] Any SEO gurus lurking? If one enters a google query with two terms and a hit is returned that lists a website but one of the terms is not obviously shown anywhere on the returned website, is there a way to figure out why/where the two terms are linked together? [15:09] nbuonann2 (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:09] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] antiwire: nope not with how google does their SEO :) [15:10] kitche: I bet I'm not the first to ask about that huh? ;) [15:10] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:11] I never understood Google's SEO really since they link words to sites that don't even mean anything if you just talk about a certain topic they will link the site to that word [15:11] roro_master (n=roro@41.221.20.228) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:11] Nick change: [1]roro -> roro_master [15:12] rk4n3: It is listed in xwmconfig [15:12] cool :) [15:12] I'll set it there and see if it works. :P [15:12] I just use my ~/.xinitrc [15:12] Would this be a valid path in rsyncd.conf if using chroot? "path = /media/data-drive2/files/documents/." [15:12] brb [15:12] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:12] Interesting little server ... http://excito.com/bubba/products/about-bubba.html [15:13] kitche: yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out here. It's almost like google is doing some sort of broad contexting behind the query. Maybe something like looking through the whole DB for mentions of X and Y that are some how related, maybe from culling through logs or blog posts. [15:13] i don't really get it [15:14] NyteOwl, nifty [15:14] a bit pricey - 220 Euro's [15:14] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:14] aye [15:14] but nice case [15:14] rk4n3: heh, nope [15:14] NyteOwl, stupid name tho. sounds like forrest gumps friend [15:15] rk4n3: .xinitrc is set to "exec ion3" [15:15] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:15] i cant build kde! [15:15] svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs [15:15] cd kdelibs [15:15] cmakekde [15:15] lol [15:15] there is no cmakekde, there is cmake [15:15] NyteOwl, arm inside [15:17] jeev: look at Pat's kde buildscripts to see how to use cmake [15:17] firebird619: is it not starting with it in your .xinitrc ? [15:17] thrice`: isn't that funny, another cmake question [15:17] rk4n3: no, it starts to flux. :P [15:17] thrice` just schooled me [15:17] well, jeev isn't even close [15:17] lol [15:17] I use kdm, would it be any different it I started to rl3 and then used startx? [15:17] ok thanks thrice [15:17] you dont have faith in me again [15:17] jeev: are you trying to use the kde build scripts? [15:17] for trying "cmakekde?" O.o [15:18] firebird619: did you change your runlevel to get out of ?DM and use startx from a new login ? [15:18] rk4n3: no, would that help? [15:18] firebird619: ... I think that's the only way your .xinitrc is processed [15:18] rk4n3: ah, ok. I'll try that, thanks. [15:18] no kitche, svn'd. [15:18] i think from turnk [15:18] hold up [15:18] slackytude: yep. not intended for ehavy sue but would make a decent little bocx for a home firewall/gateway or a personal web server. If it wasn't so expensive. :0 [15:19] yea, from trunk [15:19] i dont think i should be building trunk [15:19] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:19] neither do I, jeev :) it's not a quick or easy task [15:19] unlike urmom P [15:19] :P [15:19] heh [15:20] Action: thrice` boos straterra [15:21] thrice`, 4.2? 4.2.3? [15:21] NyteOwl, agreed [15:21] rk4n3, I use sloppy focus, that works pretty well with a touchpad :) [15:22] Camarade_Tux: ah, I suppose [15:23] jeev: why are you trying to build kde ? [15:23] because im bored [15:23] personally, I think it would be easier to update to -current, than to build kde4 on 12.2 [15:23] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:23] slackytude: I have a K6-III+/600 I'm planning on recommissioning soon :) [15:23] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [15:24] what does -current use right now [15:24] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:24] 4.2.3 [15:24] rk4n3: that worked. :) [15:24] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.15.166) joined ##slackware. [15:24] NyteOwl, good enough for most tasks. I used to run a PII 350 mhz and it did its job [15:24] kde4 adds over 20 new dependencies to 12.2, so you'd have to hunt those down and compile those as well [15:25] slackytude: Well I have a number of "old" machines still in use. They do the job so trashing them for somehting new woukld just be a waste [15:25] NyteOwl, true. altho I got kinda fed up with it all and only have my laptop now [15:25] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "configuring" [15:25] oh [15:25] firebird619: sweet - F2 starts an xterm, F3 prompts you for any command [15:25] ok so what's the bets method [15:26] best [15:26] to update to current [15:26] slackpkg ? [15:26] NyteOwl, I mainly abuse work / uni machines now [15:26] heh [15:26] firebird619: F12 prompts you for session commands, like session/exit, etc... [15:26] rk4n3: k, I figured out the F2 one. didn't know about the other ones. this is really nice though. [15:26] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.225) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:27] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] firebird619: yeah, and you're just getting started :) The man page on ion3 is essential - tons of info in there - first thing to check out: creating, splitting (vert and horiz) screens [15:28] k, there's a way to change the bg too? [15:28] rk4n3: :D pidgin on left, man page on right. :) [15:28] um, never looked into that - I never see my bg :) [15:28] yep :) [15:28] snewp (i=slacker@cpe-69-203-220-240.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:29] rk4n3: true, but I was just curious. From the screenshots, it looks like you can. [15:29] I just squeezed my glasses ='( [15:29] Camarade_Tux: did they break? [15:29] firebird619: I'm sure you can, but my screen is completely full of in-use windows :) [15:29] rk4n3: this is very nice. :) [15:30] F3 even shows up with a list as you type what you want. :) [15:30] firebird619, no hopefully, they are of the kind you can bend [15:30] Camarade_Tux: thanfully. :) [15:30] firebird619: what I found is that I liked certain kinds of thing in a "big" area, and certain kinds of things in "smaller" areas, and certain arrangements of those, and I hardly ever change it ... I just flip the tabs around a bit [15:30] firebird619: Yeah, the menus are great [15:31] rk4n3: I'll be giving ion a good test for a while, it may replace flux even. :) [15:31] firebird619, yeah, and they have no frame, that also helps :) [15:31] sweet [15:31] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:31] rk4n3: thanks for mentioning ion, this is cool. [15:32] firebird619: no problem - let me know if you have questions :) [15:32] ok, thank you. :) [15:32] rk4n3, can i get a screenshot for ion? [15:33] haha, ram is 295/1005. I've never seen my ram use that low. :) [15:33] yosii: sure, let me cook on up - I'm in the middle of something, but I'll post a link here in a couple minutes... [15:33] being able to bend this glasses has been really helpful btw, they have survived at least thrice where regular glasses wouldn't have :) [15:33] rk4n3, thanks [15:33] firebird619, not even with fvwm? [15:33] Camarade_Tux: yeah, they are nice. [15:33] roro_master (n=roro@41.221.20.229) left ##slackware. [15:33] yosii: nope [15:34] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) left irc: "Leaving" [15:34] pidgin on left, htop on right. Oh this is sweet. [15:35] rk4n3: even the fonts in pidgin look smoother, how would that happen? I'm not joking either, that may sound ridiculous, but it's true. [15:36] haha, pidgin on left, ion man page top right, htop bottom right. :) [15:36] rk4n3: I've discovered vertical split. :) [15:36] firebird619: indeed ! :) [15:37] firebird619: ctrl+w,w [15:38] yo thumbs [15:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:38] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:38] whoops, I did ctrl+w in pidgin and it closed ##slackware. :P [15:38] firebird619: ctrl+w,= [15:39] firebird619: oh, it's bound to your WM? sorry. [15:39] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [15:39] hmm i'm confused about the openssl syntax [15:39] thumbs: in ion3 evidently. :P [15:39] i'm trying to make a base64 md5 hash [15:39] firebird619: sorry [15:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] can someomne help me with the syntax [15:39] rk4n3: I've discovered styles. :) [15:40] instead of pidgin, screen+irssi would look amazing with this. :) [15:40] md5sum FILE | base64 ? [15:41] thumbs: ah, that's alright, I was just a /join ##slackware away from getting it back. :P [15:41] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-24-126-175-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] helo [15:41] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-174.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:42] russo, md5sum FILE | base64 ? [15:42] lol slackytude nvm i got it :P [15:42] i was just echoing without -n [15:42] heh [15:42] and getting the wrong hashes [15:44] busy day [15:44] everyones at the pool [15:45] rk4n3, are the key bindings vim-style ? [15:45] Camarade_Tux: are you trying it now too? :) [15:45] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [15:46] firebird619, no but ^W= reminds me of vim ;) [15:46] from fortune : [15:46] question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; [15:47] ^^ [15:47] yosii: http://rk4n3.daemonx.com/ss-ion-desktop-lores.png [15:48] Camarade_Tux: not really [15:48] Camarade_Tux: lol. ok. [15:49] rk4n3: you're using the same style as I am. :P [15:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:49] :) [15:49] clean, simple, unobtrusive [15:49] rk4n3, so the similarity with vim at ^w+* commands ? [15:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Camarade_Tux, xfce closes stuff on strg+q too [15:50] err ctrl+w [15:50] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Client Quit [15:50] Camarade_Tux: I believe you could mimic that by setting up keystrokes that way, but by default, to split a window is Alt+s [15:50] hmm how do you get that confused ? [15:50] slackytude, you have to tell me how you managed to write 'strg' instead of 'ctrl' ! :p [15:50] strg+q for ctrl+w [15:50] rk4n3, cool, thanks [15:50] Camarade_Tux, exactly [15:51] Camarade_Tux, german word [15:51] oh [15:51] slackytude, haha :p [15:51] steuerung = strg, control = ctrl [15:51] Camarade_Tux: well that kinda worked [15:51] yeah I wasn't thinking of the abbreviation [15:52] worked enough for now ant way [15:52] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [15:52] i can run gklxgears or anything i get his error http://pastebin.com/m22fe420f [15:53] firebird619: you can just copy the cfg_ion.lua file to your ~/.ion3 dir, and then change it to add your tweaks [15:53] firebird619: here's the tweak for tab-switch keys that I added... [15:53] defbindings("WFrame", { [15:54] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:54] kpress("Control+Up", "_:switch_prev()"), [15:54] kpress("Control+Down", "_:switch_next()") [15:54] }) [15:54] ... simple as that [15:54] rk4n3:awesome, thanks. [15:54] alienBOB: thanks for the eeepc-acpi-scripts package, i've downloaded & installed it [15:55] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:55] firebird619: I did the same for the WScreen section (except with Control+Left and Control+Right) for switching workspaces [15:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:55] btw, i got sound working on the 1000he, for some reason it needed a reboot after alsaconf to kick in [15:55] rk4n3: ok, thanks. [16:02] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [16:02] rk4n3: Do I copy that cfg_ion.lua file to ~/.ion3/default-session--0, or just ~/.ion3 ? [16:02] ~/.ion3 [16:03] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] firebird619: do an F12, then session/restart to get the new settings [16:04] rk4n3: k, thanks. :) This is so awesome. I'm loving ion3 so far. [16:04] firebird619: :) [16:04] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] firebird619: one other convenient thing ... you may occaisionally hit an app that has a behavior that doesn't "play well" tiled ... right-clicking on the tile tab for that app/window will give you a menu with a "De/re-attach" option - that will actually "float" the window, so its not tiled - works well for a naughty window in a pinch [16:07] cool [16:08] zachary (i=zachary@adsl-69-209-124-233.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) left irc: [16:09] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:09] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [16:10] whoa, I've discovered flip and transpose. :P [16:10] haha [16:10] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [16:10] :) [16:10] very interesting it is. :) [16:11] exbio (n=exi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [16:11] now, the ctrl+up, +down, switches tabs, correct? [16:11] yep [16:12] ok, it does nothing for me atm, I don't think I have any tabs though, just open stuff, i.e. pidgin, 3 xterms, opera, and ff. [16:12] firebird619: you know you can just drag-n-drop apps to other tiles, right ? [16:12] yep, discovered that too. :) [16:12] firebird619: just open more than one xterm in the same area - hit F2 like 3 or 4 times [16:13] ... then you'll have tabs [16:13] k, did that, no tabs, but 8 xterms open. and separately listed at the top. [16:13] yeah, those are tabs [16:14] ah, ok. They're not switching though. [16:14] hmm... [16:14] OK, so you have just one tile, right ? [16:14] ... one of the xterms is showing, the others just have tabs in the tile's title bar, right ? [16:15] yeah [16:15] ... and Control+up doesn't switch tabs ? [16:15] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.146.8) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:15] I have pidgin on the left side of the screen, with xterm, Buddy List, and ##slackware listed in the title bar above it. and then the xterms, opera, and FF are in the title bar for the right side. [16:16] No, ctrl+up doesn't do anything. I did the session/restart thing too. [16:16] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host17-63-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:16] hmm ... strange [16:16] can you pastebin your ~/.ion3/cfg_ion.lua ? [16:17] sure can. I probably did something wrong. [16:17] Oh, wait. I think I know what, sec. I'll check. 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[16:21] firebird619: Thats good to hear, ion huh... interesting never saw that wm before. [16:22] lf4: you should try it, it's really nice. [16:22] firebird619: Things are going well just configured my system for rsyncd. [16:22] cool [16:22] firebird619: I'll check it out :) [16:24] moshe-pgh (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:26] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:31] lf4: Here's mine right now. [16:31] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.15.166) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:32] Yard work is hard work. Working hard for no money.... [16:32] makes things look good and i enjoy it at the end [16:32] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.146.8) joined ##slackware. [16:32] also fun to ride the zero turn mower [16:33] yeah, it better pay off. we planted like 23 some odd tomato plants. [16:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:33] ive got about 20, 2 died =/ [16:33] Where is the best place to start the rsync --daemon at start up? [16:33] some herbs, peppers too [16:33] i have mine garden inside a screened in pool area where a planter is [16:34] lf4, make a rc file for it and call it in rc.local [16:34] no squerels getting to my stuff =D [16:34] acidkill: Ya, we planted peppers too. Going to make a crap load of salsa this year. [16:34] or thats the plan at least. [16:34] slackytude: ok :) thanks. [16:34] acidkill: s/squerels/squirrels/ :P [16:35] i have 3 varieties..but as i was taking them from the starter is mixed them all up. but i have anaheim, serrento, and chilis, IIRC [16:35] Action: slackytude bows [16:35] firebird619: those little critters too man!! [16:35] haha [16:37] http://www.ferrisindustries.com/pages/mower.php?product_id=31 <-- they have one of those at the lawn equipment place, i want to give it a drive. looks interesting with the motorcycle style seating [16:37] bad ass mowers too, independant 4 wheel suspensions 1/4" frames [16:38] acidkill: that looks like fun. :P [16:39] would be fun as all hell i could imagine [16:39] 27hp and 48" cut, that would be quick [16:39] yeah, no doubt. cost? [16:39] anything over like 5mph gets rough, but with that suspension you might be able to hit 10 and cut nicely [16:39] probably 5-7k [16:40] haha, start saving up. :P [16:40] but you could run that 10hrs a day for years [16:40] http://www.ferrisindustries.com/pages/mower.php?product_id=18 [16:40] ;-) [16:40] CAT diesel engine lol [16:40] that's like buying a decent used car. :P Some would need a loan to get that mower. :P [16:41] 7.2 acres an hour. [16:41] if i had municipal or gov contracts to cut a lot of land, id love one of those [16:41] that would be nice :o [16:42] bah, gimme an international cub and I'll be happy [16:42] talking with the guy at the service place, municipal and large contracts here use the Ferris because of suspension and you dont get beat up as much [16:42] does anyone know on thunderbird if there is a service started for kde 4.2.3 that is diff from xfce4 in -current... everything worked fine for it on the other window manager now its complaining it cant write a temp file and check my new/mail settings [16:42] oh man i had a crazy breakfast, im still tired [16:43] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: "leaving" [16:43] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.154.118) joined ##slackware. [16:43] that would cut 10 achers in 2 hours o.O [16:43] jeev: i had a massive berrito like 2hrs ago and im still on siesta [16:43] lol acidchild [16:43] acidkill [16:43] so much beef and rice, and tons of queso [16:43] mmm [16:43] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [16:43] i was wondering why they didnt tell me to come, agentc0re told me to call them but i just went to do something and they said come! [16:43] i went and im dead right now, it was SOOOO good [16:43] SlackerKing (n=SlackerK@cpe-71-64-119-225.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:44] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.163) joined ##slackware. [16:44] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] hey hitest [16:45] Buggabo0 (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[16:59] :( [16:59] Hey nix_chix0r, how are you? seems like your connection sucks today. :P [16:59] rg3: still rusty with my Spanish [17:00] firebird619, http://i39.tinypic.com/96lt8z.jpg [17:00] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-174.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:00] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.190.46) joined ##slackware. [17:01] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] wb nix_chix0r [17:01] thumbs: i think i make more mistakes in spanish than in english :D [17:01] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [17:01] SlackerKing (n=SlackerK@cpe-71-64-119-225.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] ighhhhhhh rain [17:01] rg3: me too, but Spanish is not my native language. [17:01] nix_chix0r: That pic is very cute. what was he looking at there? [17:02] his daddy [17:02] thumbs: mine is, that's the problem [17:02] rg3: hahaha [17:02] rg3: see, I have problem with verb tenses in Spanish [17:03] thumbs: the problem being that there are many tenses, i guess :D [17:03] rg3: http://www.studyspanish.com/ :P [17:03] rg3: exactly. [17:04] studyspanish.... hmmmmmmmm :) [17:05] ahh, wotd [17:05] firebird619: thanks. [17:05] firebird619: I'll follow that site every day [17:06] jeev> this is what a govt agent looks like on the internet http://www.reddit.com/user/Herkimer [17:06] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.105.253) joined ##slackware. [17:08] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] rk4n3: I did some searching, you can set a bg for ion, using like imagemagick, feh, or looks like even fbsetbg. [17:11] aha [17:11] cool [17:11] but as you mentioned, the screen is full at all times for the most part. :P [17:11] but it can be done. [17:14] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:14] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-138-51.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:15] BuGi (n=Adium@79-107.unused.derbynet.waw.pl) left irc: "Leaving." [17:16] slackaholic, I like that nick [17:16] Nick change: chowabunga -> Slackophile [17:18] slackytude, hehe [17:19] http://i42.tinypic.com/29bjygj.jpg lol [17:19] slackytude, coud you tell me a good p2p client2slack? [17:19] nice shirt [17:20] nix_chix0r: haha, that's sweet. [17:20] Nick change: firebird619 -> slackattack [17:20] :) [17:20] bad ass shirts [17:20] slackattack, heh [17:21] err, why won't pidgin show me my new nick when I change it. It shows it to everyone else. [17:21] slackaholic, not really [17:21] slackattack, doesn't it look like he was photoshopped in [17:21] nix_chix0r: lol, it almost does. [17:22] slackytude, something similar emule [17:22] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Nick change: slackattack -> firebird619 [17:22] slackytude, different amule! [17:22] slackaholic, I dont use them [17:22] dang, slackattack is registered. :P [17:23] Nick change: Slackophile -> chowabunga [17:23] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:23] amule, emule ? baaah, mldonkey ftw ! [17:23] people actually use that stuff still [17:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] sure :) [17:25] txz format? [17:26] i kissed a grr and i liked it [17:26] jonsmith1982: new compression method using lzma. [17:27] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:27] bbl.....going for a short nap:) [17:27] later hitest [17:27] does makepkg default to txz now then? [17:27] later firebird619 [17:27] lucky hitest [17:27] i just tried, failure [17:28] I'm not sure jonsmith1982. Someone else may know. txz is in -current however, not 12.2 yet. [17:28] I'm tired today, still fighting a chest cold [17:28] hitest: you still have that cold, how long is that now? [17:28] had it for 4-5 days [17:29] sucks [17:29] getting any better at all? [17:29] Nick change: chowabunga -> Slackinator [17:29] yeah, gradually:) [17:29] well that's good at least. : [17:29] s/:// [17:29] jonsmith1982: you need tar-1.22 and xz-utils [17:29] Camarade_Tux> there is nothing worth pirating.... [17:29] both available in current as .tgz packages [17:30] also the newest pkgtools [17:30] at least anything under us copyright law isnt worth stealing imo [17:30] then you can use .txz [17:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:30] Nick change: Slackinator -> ElSlackidente [17:31] ElSlackidente, who said anything about pirating ? and the BT network has many non-pirate things [17:31] *mule isnt bit-torrent [17:32] mldonkey :) [17:32] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:32] comrade [17:33] hahaha, we should release fake pre-version of ubuntu which would actually be slackware isos ;p [17:33] heh [17:33] Camarade_Tux, why give the lusers a gift? [17:33] jeev, we need to stop the epidemic ! [17:34] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.190.46) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:34] jeev: slack would be a gift, yes, but the fun would be in watching then freak when there's no apt-get, etc. and they can't figure it out and they bother #ubuntu. :D [17:34] s/then/them/ [17:34] exactly :) [17:34] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.77.5) joined ##slackware. [17:34] we should fake the installer though [17:34] lol [17:34] no bullshit yum [17:35] Camarade_Tux: that would be hilarious and we would watch the ubunturds self implode. :P [17:36] distribute it as Perfect Penguin [17:36] what I like with ubuntu is that you pronounce it noobuntu naturally : "an ubuntu" sounds like "a noobuntu" :) [17:36] Camarade_Tux: yeah, exactly. [17:37] ubuntu is for tards [17:37] i suggest you all install it [17:37] zlinux_ (n=zlinux@79.172.186.47) left irc: No route to host [17:37] No such file `xz-4.999.8beta-i486-1.tgz..asc'. [17:38] heh [17:38] why is it adding a peeeereeeeeeod [17:38] i have xorg, how can I lock the screen [17:38] ? [17:38] xlock -mode blank [17:39] hmm, in which tgz is xlock ? [17:39] i can`t find it [17:39] why dont people do freaking full installs [17:39] then they know what they remove and the names of the packages [17:40] maybe because they do not need it ? [17:40] well the figure it out yourself [17:40] packages.slackware.it <- search by filename [17:40] yeah [17:40] slackpkg can do that as well [17:41] ElSlackidente: very thank You, more that people like You and Linux won`t exist anymore ... [17:41] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't have xlock either btw [17:41] get a gift by Yourself [17:41] mac_s> try ubuntu [17:41] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:41] ElSlackidente: use MacOS X [17:42] then You won`t need to helpD[D anyone [17:42] mac_s: xlockmore [17:42] rg3: thanks [17:42] :) [17:42] i dont mind helping people, but they cant be super steedles [17:42] if you make your bed, you should learn to sleep in it [17:43] blah blah blah [17:43] do not use Your keyboard too much now [17:43] haha [17:43] on MacOS X you will ned it ... [17:44] and stop that silly comments, if You do not want to help, stay silent [17:44] if you dont know shit about fuck, you should do a full install [17:44] ElSlackidente: please watch the language. [17:44] i suppose you`ve already done ... [17:44] that why You don`t know what package name is [17:45] :) [17:45] then you at least learn what the hell is going on when start removing crap randomly [17:45] lf4: don`t waste our time :) simply ignore him :) [17:47] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.163) left irc: "Leaving." [17:48] OSX is what you get when some ghey dudes in black turtleneck sweaters redecorate some borked bsd system ;p [17:50] edson (n=edson@unaffiliated/edson) joined ##slackware. [17:52] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: [17:53] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:53] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:54] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [17:55] Drlinux (n=net@57.71.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Leaving" [17:56] Today is Boomtime, the 6th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3175 [17:56] Boom ! [17:57] Today is Sweetmorn, the 5th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3175 [17:57] Celebrate Syaday [17:57] Camarade_Tux, one of our clocks is wrong [17:57] slackytude, mine :D [17:57] anyone know why in pidgin, for im, not irc, that if I type enough, it says Unable to send message too large? [17:57] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:57] type enough like 5000 chars ? [17:58] no, not that many. [17:58] not even 50 characters I don't think. [17:58] zen u nid 2 chng ur styl i sink [17:58] lol [17:59] orly? [17:59] ya rly [17:59] Action: Camarade_Tux has had something in the left eye for hours, aaaaahhhhhh ! [17:59] i done borke my system [17:59] with slackpkg upgrading to current [17:59] hehe [18:00] Action: firebird619 pokes Camarade_Tux in the eye. [18:00] firebird619, so it was you in my eye ! >< [18:01] haha [18:03] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.105.253) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:05] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-138-51.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:06] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:07] Camarade_Tux: your eye feel better now? [18:08] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:08] not really and I think it's getting worse =/ [18:08] Oh no. [18:08] I think I *have* to stop touching it, no matter how it feels [18:08] what do you think got in your eye. [18:09] hold a cold rag over it. [18:09] running water [18:09] not sure but it may be simply that I've scratched it too much [18:09] that could be [18:09] Camarade_Tux: Could it be a sty? [18:09] he'd see that I would think. [18:09] firebird619: true [18:10] Camarade_Tux: just blink a lot until your eyes water. [18:10] for me, I just have to yawn and my eyes water like crazy. [18:11] Meckafet1 (n=meckafet@c193-150-254-182.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [18:11] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-83-137.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] I've checked and couldn't see a thing, but it seems that something swelled because I was scratching my eye, and that's what is hurting [18:11] i like hot spicy mexian food that makes you sweat and eyes water :D [18:12] Pig_Pen, lol ;p [18:12] and blinking hurts, I guess I'll just go to bed and hope it goes away [18:13] thinking how retarded I was to ever get with my ex makes mine water. :P [18:13] and when you wake up, nothing is left of your eye but some yellow gooze [18:13] Camarade_Tux: that could be a sty then. It's a pimple in your eyelid, it could be really small and sometimes, I forget the name of it now, but it's like a sty only inside where you wouldn't see it but it'd still hurt. [18:13] and then other parts start to itch as well [18:13] slackytude, more likely a mix between red and green I think ;p [18:13] Action: slackytude saw to many horror movies [18:13] Hey chopp, how's it going? [18:14] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] firebird619, that's what I thought but it doesn't seem to be the case [18:14] not so bad thanks firebird619, how about yourself. [18:14] chopp: doing excellent, thanks. I'm using the ion wm atm, pretty cool. [18:15] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [18:15] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-150-155.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:15] equant (n=equant@ip70-176-188-151.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.197.251) joined ##slackware. [18:15] hmm thats one I've never checked out. [18:15] Camarade_Tux: Well best of luck with your eye problem, hope it gets better. If it is a sty, you want to use a warm rag if you hold anything on it. [18:16] chopp: http://i42.tinypic.com/29bjygj.jpg [18:16] LOL [18:17] cute kid [18:17] but all kids are cute [18:17] ahh, wrong link, copy didn't work. [18:17] http://imagebin.org/51014 [18:17] sorry. [18:17] Ugh, [18:17] jeev: every now and then, copy won't work, I have to hit copy 2-3 times. [18:17] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:17] it's weird [18:17] oh, you're talking to me/ i dont think i can see you after the beating you gave me yesterday. [18:18] zlinux (n=zlinux@79.172.161.78) joined ##slackware. [18:18] slackytude, so, what does ddate gives you now ? ;) [18:18] firebird619: thats a busy desktop you've got goin on there. :P [18:18] Today is Boomtime, the 6th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3175 [18:18] =P [18:19] Boomtime! [18:19] chopp: yeah, that's ion, it's a tiling wm. [18:19] ok, my eye may be getting better, not sure but well, I'll just pause Black Sabbath and go to sleep [18:19] not getting better at all actually [18:20] the last living survivor of the Titanic died in her sleep she was just two months old when the titanic sank, she was 97 [18:20] Black Sabbath rocks [18:20] firebird619: looks cool, but I still prefer flux. http://chopp.homelinux.com:8080/tmp/screenshot.jpg [18:20] jgor (n=jgor@r74-192-150-204.gtwncmta01.grtntx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:21] slackytude, been listening to Black Sabbath since this morning :) [18:21] antiwire: you're right, the new kismet is awsome. :) [18:21] chopp: sweet deal huh [18:21] chopp: yeah, I'm giving this ion a good try, but flux is excellent. [18:21] Camarade_Tux, listen to Iron Man [18:21] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Hand of Doom! [18:22] holy crap batman, pidgin was taking 1.8gb ram in windows [18:22] antiwire: sure different from the old. [18:22] I've probably already listened to Iron Man half a dozen of times today ;) [18:22] nice work! [18:22] jeev, hmmm, something broken ? [18:22] chopp: yeah, I'm still getting used to the windowing method but the guts of the tool are also much nicer now [18:22] noooooooooooo, I quit mplayer instead of man ! ='( [18:23] antiwire: dragorn ftw [18:23] totally [18:24] comrade, no [18:25] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0338E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:25] Mmm anyone using UnionFS? I was wondering whether it's worth the effort of a kernel recompile :-) [18:26] works good with cd's - haven't played with it otherwise [18:27] jgor (i=jgor@r74-192-150-204.gtwncmta01.grtntx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] wow, this would be great: http://tinyurl.com/n4frql <---lung cancer blood test. [18:31] symptom : annoying ads in web browser ; reason : forgot to re-disable flash plugin in web browser [18:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-150-155.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [18:36] Fish (n=SPARCman@AVelizy-152-1-84-251.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:38] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431467.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] chopp: I was just talking to dragorn about the newcore. I asked if there was a mapping tool for newcore yet and he no and also that there is a beginning of one but it doesn't work and no one seems to be interested enough to send patches in so it's stuck [18:40] chopp: I wish I knew wtf I was doing so I could help with that [18:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:41] antiwire: yeah no doubt. Would be an awsome project to be a part of. :P [18:43] In the past I'd use gpsmap from kismet-old just to be able to make whiz-bang-pow satellite maps of areas and the wifi in them [18:43] it was cool for showing people broad overviews [18:43] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] wb hitest [18:43] ty, firebird619 [18:44] antiwire: yeah I've used kismet for a long time, but for whatever reason, never picked up an gps unit to play with. [18:44] well for the time being you won't need to worry about that lol [18:45] antiwire: I've seen your maps. They looked cool. [18:46] antiwire: well I think with a little research, you could handle the newcore. So get on it! :) [18:46] I might use this as a reason to start learning python as a first language. [18:47] I could take all the xml output files and probably make a very rudimentary mapping tool that uses google earth or google maps [18:47] for sure [18:47] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [18:47] something that just reads the coords. and network name and makes a google point of interest out of it [18:47] LifeForce4 (n=LF4@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [18:48] python is nice [18:48] the interest in it would make the learning curve less steep. :P [18:48] hehe yeah [18:49] i see that python has google binds too [18:49] pymaps would be the tool [18:49] heck yeah [18:49] http://code.google.com/p/pymaps/ [18:49] heh. Python script that reads your GPS and creates a "Drop Bombs Here" label in google maps :) [18:50] lol [18:50] no bombs! [18:50] haha [18:50] drop beer here label [18:50] put it on your web site, advertise it as a "1337 tool for h4ck1ing g00gl3 m4pzzz!" [18:50] yeah beer and naked women are acceptable [18:50] Haha [18:50] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.146.8) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] or perl [18:51] Action: LifeForce4 thinks perl is great :) [18:51] perl might be cool, there are probably a million perl google maps apis too [18:51] naked women who bring me beer and write perl code... nah, I don't believe in heaven. [18:52] LifeForce4: since I don't know either, perl or python for parsing through some xml files and creating google map points of interest? [18:52] suggestions anyone? [18:52] antiwire: yeah there are quite a few in cpan [18:52] antiwire, pymaps has great documentation >-< [18:52] slackytude: lmao i saw that too [18:52] ugh. [18:52] can I troll too ? :p [18:52] hey Camarade_Tux [18:52] I'm not trolling, if that was aimed at me [18:53] antiwire, python has some nice xml parsers but so does every other language [18:53] you still playing eduke32? [18:53] LifeForce4 (n=LF4@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "tested settings" [18:53] hey Urchlay :) [18:54] I'll do it in bash with sed [18:54] Action: antiwire runs [18:54] O_o [18:54] good luck [18:54] played a bit but not currently playing :) [18:54] regexps dont work well with *ml [18:54] I tried to shoot a rocket trough a hole smaller than Duke. I died :D [18:54] hey i've got eduke32 working too and i even got network play between my linux box and my brother's windows box working [18:54] slackytude, hahaha ! [18:54] Camarade_Tux, mh? [18:55] antiwire, I wanted to troll for ocaml ;) [18:55] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [18:55] hey [18:55] y0 compl3x [18:55] hey compl3x [18:55] antiwire: if you are looking at learning perl you will find some good things to use with gmaps :) http://search.cpan.org/search?query=maps+google&mode=all [18:55] Waaz happening this fine evening. [18:55] lf4: awesome thanks. I just found a project that seems like a good motivator for learning it [18:56] slackytude, built-in support (Str module), or pcre bindings available, and mi(c|k)match : extends ocaml pattern-matching with matching over regexps which gives a very nice syntax, and regexps are statically checked which is very nice too :) [18:56] Good luck :) haha perl is awesome at work we created scripts to gather the data that is our job :P [18:56] Camarade_Tux: currently writing a man page for eduke32. What a mess. [18:56] Urchlay, haha, good luck :p [18:56] http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=maps+google&submit=search [18:56] lf4: be careful. I've automated myself right out of a job once before. [18:56] Urchlay: you maintain the eduke32 project? [18:57] Action: Camarade_Tux should really go to bed now, 2:30 before the end of the song [18:57] antiwire: no, but I do maintain the SBo slackbuild for eduke32 [18:57] ah! [18:57] Urchlay: Haha yeah thats what we were worried about but they still need human monitoring incase the scripts fail. All they do is gather the data. [18:58] Urchlay: well thanks for that [18:58] it's rad [18:58] antiwire: you're welcome. I didn't know anybody was even using it :) [18:58] hell yeah we use it [18:58] rocken [18:58] :) [18:58] freaking duke nukem [18:58] http://imagebin.org/51022 i got it done, everything works! [18:59] Pig_Pen: sweet, good work. :) [18:59] :D [18:59] Pig_Pen, nice ^-^ [18:59] updating it to latest source snapshot, latest HRP too. [18:59] night [18:59] is that some sort of electronic bong over there on the table? [18:59] Pig_Pen: what were you doing? :S [18:59] Pig_Pen, is that a potato peeler in the picture ? [19:00] night Camarade_Tux [19:00] good night kernel comrad [19:00] gnight Camarade_Tux [19:00] that aluminum thingy? no, that is a base for an ancient starduster CB base station antenna [19:00] lol [19:00] ehhh, Pig_Pen, you probably shouldn't have let us know you keep a tube of Jergens next to your computer :) [19:00] lol [19:00] I was going to make fun of the jerk-ings too [19:01] yeah, me as well [19:01] Pig_Pen: .. ^ [19:01] thats my wife's anti aging goop, i wont tell her it does not do any good [19:01] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] but it sure is slippery right [19:01] Action: jeev installpkg'd everything in slackware-current rather than upgrade LOL [19:01] thats what she said [19:01] nah, just move it out of camera range when taking photos for public consumption... [19:01] jeev: are you trying to destroy your system? [19:01] antiwire, i dont mind formatting it. i have nothing on it [19:02] jeev: you have something on it now: a mess... [19:02] eh [19:02] it's removing the old packages now [19:02] but breaking stuff is a good first step in learning how to fix it [19:02] so, as you were, soldier [19:02] i want to start a campaign to destroy every linux but slackware [19:02] is that malicious of me [19:02] jeev: no! [19:03] yes [19:03] Buggabo0 (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:03] jeev: that's malicious don't do that [19:03] jeev: if that happened for a start wed get ubuntu noobs everywhere who would take over slackware and destroy us all [19:03] I've used the wiki's of many different distributions [19:03] aren't you tired of hearing people having to update yum repositories? [19:03] and search for rpms ? [19:03] no [19:03] their choice [19:03] jeev: it keeps most of the idiots away from us slackers [19:03] The work that other distributions do benefits everyone [19:03] eh? I never hear people doing that in here... [19:04] yeah, you hang around in the wrong circles [19:04] duno [19:04] yeah, red hat used to (or still does?) pay the salaries of more than one kernel developer [19:04] still do, afaik [19:04] redhat's been hacked more than pamela anderson! [19:04] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] what are you trying to say? You write more secure code than Alan Cox does? Forgive me if I don't believe you... [19:05] Urchlay, i couldn't write code of all the worlds vagina's less anyone related to me would be in my pocket [19:05] Parse error [19:05] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "laters folks" [19:05] lol [19:06] yeah that does not compute [19:06] antiwire, i cant wait for 60mbit from charter [19:07] maybe i could finally download at 20megs [19:07] naw, i dont want to see the other distros die, then the choices would be limited, we gotta have a retard distro (ubuntu) an intermediate distro (most of them) a leet ricer distro (gentoo, lfs) and a few distros for folks that just want it done right (Slackware!, and a few others) [19:07] Pig_Pen, i think centos and redhat are lamer than ubuntuntnt [19:08] I just got slackware. I HATE the package management system. I like the rest. :) I do understand the purpose of the package management system, its just not for me. And to make things worse absolutely everything I compile from source goes wrong somewhere. [19:08] redhat-7.1 was my first distro, i quit using redhat about the time 7.3 was released, i have not tried it in years, but if you say so ;p [19:08] seriously, I have never successfully compiled something from source :( [19:08] likevinyl_ (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [19:08] stealth-: YDIW [19:08] stealth-, compiling from source [19:08] what! [19:08] what's ydiw lol [19:09] lol [19:09] stealth-, someone pointed out sbo to you yet? [19:09] You're Doing It Wrong. [19:09] slackytude: sbo? [19:09] ha [19:09] slackytude: ive been attempting to use slapt-get [19:09] thats what I thought [19:09] Action: slackytude slaps stealth- [19:09] slackbuilds.org [19:09] rworkman, that's what the girls i've been with have told me [19:09] jeev: yep, YDIW. [19:09] :) [19:09] someone ought to update the "wtf" database in bsd-games, it doesn't know what ydiw means either [19:09] rworkman, wanna know what i told them? [19:09] stealth-, check slackbuilds.org and sbopkg.org [19:09] i dont give a rat ass. [19:10] google search for sbo: small bowel obstruction [19:10] XD [19:10] 3 minutes is enough for me [19:10] Action: chopp wishes slackboy had "vote to ban" capabilities. [19:10] slackytude: I tried slackbuilds.org, and somehow even that messed up :( [19:10] oh man vote bans [19:10] that's hilarious [19:10] like a quake 3 server [19:10] slackytude: I couldnt find the right file for armagetronad, and freeciv just didnt really work [19:10] "OMG HAX" [19:10] haha [19:10] stealth-, get sbopkg at sbopkg.org [19:11] stealth-, and slackbuild just work. if they dont,your system is messed up [19:11] exbio (n=exi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [19:11] actually, same for most source compiles [19:11] those work better on slack than on many other distributions [19:12] antiwire and chopp, i wonder who you'd vote out first! [19:12] stealth-, what errors did you get? [19:12] slackytude: hey, sbo looks cool, I think ill try it out. [19:12] do that [19:12] edson (n=edson@unaffiliated/edson) left irc: "Saindo" [19:13] jeev: I'd probably attempt to vote ban the vote ban bot first just to see what would happen [19:13] jeev: are you paranoid for some reason? [19:13] chopp, as someone said on a comment i read last night.. [19:13] slackytude: I didnt really check. I forgot how long compiling takes so I was so tired after it finished and I just tried it, found it didnt work, and gave up. Freeciv didnt look to have any errors, which is the one I used the slackbuild script to make. typing in freeciv didnt do anything. It might have worked, im not sure. [19:13] jeev: well last night we would have vote banned you, yeah [19:13] "my tinfoil hat just turned into gold, im going to the pawn shop" -regarding thermites found at a certain "site" [19:14] :> antiwire. [19:14] i cant believe i read that, that was hilarious [19:14] stealth-, you know you have to install the package the slackbuild generates? [19:14] my tinfoil hate just turned gold lol [19:14] slackytude: there would be no issue using slapt-get and sbo together right? so slapt-get to keep me updated and stuff, or does sbo handle that too? [19:15] slackytude: it generates a package?!? Opps.... I thought it installed the package. lol, I kinda deleted the folder [19:15] stealth-, no issues, but why not use slackpkg? slapt-get is not really liked by people in here [19:15] slackytude: slapt-get resolves dependencies [19:15] stealth-, it should put the package in /tmo [19:15] /tmp even [19:15] k, ill check there once my laptop boots up [19:16] stealth-, lots of people managed to mess up their system with slapt-get [19:16] stealth-: slackware doesn't. if you want to resolve depencies, imho .. use debian. [19:16] lol http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22472499-Occasional-blocked-email "Verizon has started doing a most irritating thing with my email. I play chess by email with someone who lives in California (XXXX@sbcglobal.net is his address). We exchange emails almost everyday, and often four or five a day. They all have similar attachments (the chess move), and little if any text in the body of the email. Now once or twice a week Verizon blocks an incoming email [19:16] hey guys for the 'common name' of a self signed cert for apache, is that the domain name? [19:16] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:16] antiwire: IIRC, yes [19:16] (been a while though) [19:17] yea antiwire [19:17] thanks guys [19:17] slackytude: k, I guess ill start using slackpkg, then. Installing dependencies shouldnt be that big of a deal. I just wanted to keep my software up-to-date [19:18] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [19:18] stealth-, rite. :) [19:18] you need to uncomment a mirror in slackpkgs mirror list and do a slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [19:18] done [19:19] of course, real men use rsync ^-^ [19:19] slackytude: oh, slackpkg does that? awesome. thanks for these tips, btw [19:19] Action: slackytude bows [19:23] slackytude: lol, excuse my unfamiliarity, but how can I remove packages? (specifically slapt-get) [19:23] slackware is not hard to use, but it will make you use your brain [19:23] stealth-, removepkg NAME, also pkgtool will give you a list of packages which you then can uninstall [19:23] just a little :D [19:24] Anyone use Gnome before? How do I rebuild the menu to include new apps I installed? [19:25] stealth-: slapt-get isn't directly supported in here. Some people use it and might help you but more often than not slackpkg, slacktrack, or sbopkg will be suggested instead [19:25] Action: lf4 uses slackpkg :) [19:26] yeah i think im going to look into sbopkg and slackpkg [19:27] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.12.16) joined ##slackware. [19:29] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.197.251) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:32] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.205.63) joined ##slackware. [19:32] lf4: if you installed some new apps they should have made some entries in /usr/share/applications and should show up automagically in your menu, if not log out & back in [19:33] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:34] eh [19:34] http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2159 [19:34] Pig_Pen: I've tried that even to the point of rebooting the whole system and still they don't show up. lol [19:35] dutch will close prisons for lack of criminals [19:35] nice [19:35] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:38] slackytude: yeah over here we release prisoners because of over crowding... [19:39] what app is it, sometimes they dont make a entry in /usr/share/applications [19:39] antiwire, where? [19:39] US [19:39] eddie_grey (n=eddie@189.34.57.38) joined ##slackware. [19:39] slackytude: prison over crowding is a big issue here [19:39] Pig_Pen: unison [19:39] anyuser (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] hey chopp you around? [19:40] haha, its me! [19:40] never heard of unison [19:40] anyuser: there you are! [19:40] antiwire, ah, right [19:40] Its an app that does pretty much the same time as rsync. [19:41] s/time/thing/ [19:41] frontend for rsync [19:41] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:41] unison is not a frontend for rsync [19:41] slackytude: They use their own protocols [19:41] it's a standalone app, that allows for bi-directional synchronization [unlike rsync] [19:41] is unison a GUI app? or does it run in a cli or xterm? [19:41] oh right [19:42] anyone know how to make firefox/flash work with jackd? [19:42] antiwire: I am now [19:42] Pig_Pen: I've only used it in GUI (but I would presume it can be CLI). [19:43] .msg chopp hey would you mind seeing if this works for you? I'm trying to get a server going http://antiwire.net/testzone [19:43] well shit [19:43] everyone, have at it [19:43] o_O [19:43] this should be good. [19:43] ananke: cant you setup rsync to be bi-directional as well? [19:43] haha [19:44] make a unison.desktop app with this: http://pastebin.com/d7a7e2a1d save the text as unison.desktop but get rid of the line numbers [19:44] antiwire, it works [19:44] awesome thanks guys [19:44] put it in /usr/share/applications [19:44] antiwire: works yup. :) [19:44] that was epic /msg fail [19:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] lol [19:44] now I need a funny favicon [19:45] Will do Pig_Pen Thanks :) [19:46] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] ananke: Hey about earlier, I was being an ass. Sorry about that. [19:47] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:48] my bogosity meter just pegged [19:48] anyuser: benchmarking? [19:48] what tool are you using? [19:49] Linux is a good tool, my favorite! [19:49] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:05] hi andarius [20:05] greetings and salutations [20:05] salutations firebird619, I am well. you ? [20:05] salutations hitest [20:05] :) [20:05] andarius: doing excellent, thank you. :) [20:06] has anyone figured out who i am? [20:06] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] man.....what a beautiful day....sunny and 16 C here in northern Canada. Love it. [20:07] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] It's 29 C here (84 F) with a good chance of storms tonight. [20:09] nice. where do you live, firebird619? [20:10] Minnesota. [20:10] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.95.176) joined ##slackware. [20:10] There's a storm about a county away right now. [20:12] i checked the dopplar radar, the western half of the usa has scattered rains / storms [20:13] anyuser: yeah, there's quite a few here and there in the western half of the US. [20:13] yeah [20:14] Action: nooper approves of the westrn half of the US [20:14] bbl [20:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] nooper: So is that like politicians in campaign ads. In this case, I am nooper and I approve this message type thing? :P [20:16] Haha [20:16] lol [20:17] Action: lf4 lives all over. [20:17] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] what's the popular DE of choice for perl developers? [20:18] Action: slackytude2 eats a pice of strawberry cake, made by his grandma [20:18] ^-^ [20:18] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:19] dartmouth, vim [20:19] haha. i meant in 2009. [20:19] dartmouth, vim [20:19] alias vi="vim" haha [20:19] *sigh* ill ask in perl. [20:19] dartmouth: Vim still [20:20] anyuser, I'm guessing you be jeev [20:20] nope, Pig_Pen, compare the /whois :D [20:21] haha sure enough. [20:21] the real question is does any one care... [20:22] i do :D [20:22] haha andarius I do :P not [20:22] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] I used to care, but then I discovered drugs [20:22] andarius: lol:) [20:22] It's all fun and games, till someone butts in [20:23] chopp, thats what she said [20:23] [in bed] [20:23] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: "leaving" [20:24] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:26] slackytude2: good drugs? [20:27] some [20:27] like 'I know this should be making me furious but it doesn't" drugs? [20:27] oops ' ' [20:28] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:28] whatever, dude [20:28] :P [20:28] bleah. Creating a slackbuild for a game does *not* confer any special ability to play said game without sucking... [20:28] lol [20:28] Action: Urchlay just got kilt on level 2 of duke nukem 3d *again* [20:29] the RPG is just so shiny, I want to use it all the time, even at point-blank range... [20:29] I bet you died in the sewer or in the strip club [20:29] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [20:29] sewer. Self-destruct. Bleah. [20:29] haha [20:29] you almost convince me to try out duke again [20:29] tight quarters, really should use something less explosive down there [20:30] or toss a pipebomb in before jumping in [20:30] dogsoul (i=doggy@dogsoul.org) joined ##slackware. [20:30] I wish I could find my duke3d disk. [20:31] XGizzmo_: the shareware version works fine with eduke32 (and you don't need the registered version until you get past episode 1...) [20:31] I wish it was legal to post the iso [20:31] I'd do it if it wouldn't cause me to feel like a dick [20:31] isnt it abandonware by now? [20:31] it might be pretty soon... 3drealms has apparently gone out of business [20:31] I dunno, is it fair game yet? [20:32] not in ##slackware anyway [20:32] antiwire: I could find it is I wanted, But that not how I roll. :P [20:32] XGizzmo_: yeah same here [20:32] Action: Urchlay has bought 4 or 5 copies of that damn game over the years [20:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Urchlay: Did you get the hi res paks ? [20:33] yeah [20:33] If enough people get it going we should have a Slackware Duke Nukem death match [20:33] eduke32_hires_pack on SBo [20:34] I still have my duke3d disk around somewhere. It'd be easy to find, I keep everything in zippered cd cases and have a general idea where this that and the other disk is. [20:34] antiwire: haha, that'd be sweet. [20:34] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.154.17) joined ##slackware. [20:34] antiwire: wait a few days, am about to upload to SBo the updated version with (hopefully) actual working multiplayer [20:35] Urchlay: local LAN play works right now [20:35] at least for me [20:35] the version on there now, I can't get multiplayer to actually work for more than about 30 seconds [20:35] (or couldn' [20:35] hmm [20:35] t, last I tried. It's been a while) [20:35] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.205.63) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:35] I'm using 1.5.0devel 20090131 [20:36] on linux and windows [20:36] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.76.24) joined ##slackware. [20:36] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:38] It's stormin here now. later guys. [20:39] see ya [20:39] take care firebird619 [20:39] see ya slackytude2 [20:39] thanks anyuser [20:39] the one on SBo right now is 2008something [20:39] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Later"). [20:39] (tho the same script works for building 20090131) [20:40] shareware is only first level? [20:40] working on 20090313 right now (only available as a diff against the 20090131 sources) [20:40] slackytude2: only the first episode. Can't remember how many levels are in it, but 5 or so anyway [20:40] oh right [20:40] Urchlay: that's why I stuck with 0131 too [20:41] Cann0n (n=jack@64-193-70-68.jck.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] hey [20:41] antiwire: eh, it's not hard to patch. The new SBo slackbuild will include the patch, even [20:41] Urchlay: rockin [20:41] and a man page for eduke32 [20:41] Urchlay: I just saw that patch only thing and thought "well hell, I just want to play right NOW!" [20:41] :) [20:42] wish I knew what had to be done to make the maps generated by "wad2map" actually usable [20:42] (I can convert doom/doom2 levels to maps with it, but they're missing a lot of wall textures, makes em hard to play) [20:42] they arent? [20:43] sad [20:43] Im getting the three builds. anything I need to do to get hires working? [20:43] I suppose the thing to do would be to load the .map file up in mapster32 and assign textures anywhere they're missing... manual process though [20:44] why doesnt kde 4.2.3 have debugging symbols in it? i am havig major plasma issues and cant give the devs at kde any info... how do these d/s get in the build? [20:44] slackytude2: follow the directions in the READMEs, you should be fine [20:44] oh readmes,yeah [20:44] eduke32 ftw [20:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [20:44] should be a matter of building the 3 packages then installing with installpkg, the HRP should "just work" [20:44] VampirePenguin: typically, releases are compiled without debugging to make it smaller / quicker [20:44] VampirePenguin: still going on about that? [20:45] Urchlay, right,right, so just letting sbopkg doing its magic [20:45] but wouldt it make sense at least for -current or kde being so voliatile right now to build them with them to help bug hunt [20:45] VampirePenguin: none of the libraries or binaries in slackware have debugging symbols. It's assumed, if you need them, you know how to get them, I guess [20:45] Cann0n, im using xfce 4.6 it works fine and dolphin works fine so.... [20:45] more bells and whistles = more issues [20:46] if pat did not do strip kde would be twice as big as it is [20:46] every had a power window go out in a car? [20:46] Cann0n: ugh, I hate power windows [20:46] VampirePenguin: nope; -current isn't REALLY a testing ground. Pat doesn't upload things to -current without them being able to ship in the end product, typically [20:46] Cann0n: I always buy no power locks and no power windows [20:46] on purpose! [20:46] Urchlay: thats why i dont have them lol [20:47] Urchlay> you have to manually edit the map file after conversion [20:47] Cann0n: as someone who drives only cheap used cars, I don't really get much of a choice... whatever I can afford, that runs, and seems like it isn't about to fall apart... [20:47] antiwire: good! lol. i like automatic trannies, tho manual is more fun to drive. i got a bad knee from years of skating [20:47] okay maybe i dont understand really what debugging symbols are and why they should be so large [20:48] ElSlackidente: manually edit with a map editor, I guess? ("vi map01.map" doesn't look all that useful...) [20:48] I haven't seen a crank window on a car in decades [20:48] so to get them i would have to use the source in -current or go to kde and compile them [20:48] lol [20:48] I take that back - a friend's Lada had them :) [20:48] NyteOwl, mines a crank [20:48] :) [20:48] Cann0n: haha that's the same reason I switched to an automatic after driving manual for 10 years. One time I broke my clutch leg ankle and had to drive a manual to the hospital [20:48] NyteOwl: I have. The car I bought in 2007 was a 1999 saturn, had crank windows and no power locks [20:48] my new beetle has them [20:48] i hate power [20:48] Cann0n: my next truck was automatic after that [20:48] Urchlay: really? interesting [20:48] BUT, the new beetle is a bitch to work on [20:48] NyteOwl: sadly that car got totalled in 2008 :( [20:49] antiwire: shit! sucks lol [20:49] i have a 98 chevy pickup s10 with hand cranked windows [20:49] antiwire, ouch [20:49] Action: NyteOwl would love to have a truck but back/hip/knee won't let me step up that high to get in [20:49] I have a friend who bought a new S10 in like 2004 with crank windows [20:49] 98 chevy malibu, works well [20:49] NyteOwl: did you get enough info off that website on the plates, or do you need me to call them with any questions? [20:49] anyuser: I've seen them on trucks. they're just not common on passenger cars anymore [20:49] AFAIK she's still driving it [20:50] i learned stick by myself when i had to drive my friend home because he passed out in the parking lot. i was sober. ohhh the waffle house blues.... [20:50] it was the most brutal injury situation I've had to deal with. Alone. broken clutch ankle. 10 miles from the hospital. manual drive truck. [20:50] epic pain. [20:50] i've been drooling over the Kawasaki ER-6n [20:50] chopp: site was informative, thanks. I sent them an e-mail [20:50] Cann0n: if you record that & release it, I'll buy a copy :) [20:50] antiwire, no fun [20:50] kennyt (n=ken@laputa.kennyt.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:50] antiwire: yeah. i bet! >< [20:50] Urchlay> yes with BUILD or some new build [20:50] antiwire: put it in second and fuck the transmission :) [20:50] anyone that lives on a dirt road will find that dust gets inside the doors and screws up the electronics in electric windows after a few years [20:50] NyteOwl: allright great. You're welcome. [20:50] in those circumstances [20:51] NyteOwl: lol i ended up grinding quite a lot [20:51] http://www.kawasaki.ca/model/er-6n:1166 <3 [20:51] ElSlackidente: eduke32 comes with this map editor called "mapster32"... I haven't done anything with it other than load it & see that, yes, it loads [20:51] Urchlay: lol, first time i drove a jacked up 4x4 diesel truck. i did good until i had to walk back to my car [20:51] haha [20:51] Action: Urchlay used to be pretty good at making Doom levels [20:51] man, dukenuken takes a while [20:51] Urchlay> yeah you gotta open the map with that and sort out the textures...major work, but thats what it takes [20:51] m doom [20:51] slackytude2: yeah [20:52] the expansion pack for DOOM 3 was neat [20:52] anybody played descent? [20:52] heh, I've never even played doom 3, only 1 and 2 [20:52] yas! [20:52] me [20:52] rock on [20:52] descent was fun [20:52] slackytude2: all three versions and the expansion packs :) I'm still dizzy :) [20:52] Descent was my first PS1 game [20:52] NyteOwl, same here [20:52] descent was fun to watch someone play, but I sucked at it bad enough I quit trying to play it [20:52] i never finished the game fully [20:53] i did [20:53] it got hard [20:53] [in bed] [20:53] lol [20:53] I ruled Descent 1. when version 3 came out, me mates got good enought to make our fights even [20:53] I haven't finished the last Myst installment - haven't found time [20:53] Ihad this friend who was into car modding and he 'shaved' all the exterior and interior handles and lock buttons, I don't know why. Well the whole car had a malfunction in the middle of an intersection, turned itself off, locked the doors and rolled the windows up. he blocked the intersection for 45 minutes while metro had to come to extract him. [20:53] don't believe I ever managed to set off the reactor and then escape from the labyrinth before it blew up [20:53] i never finished the first Myst [20:53] never bothered much with Descent single player [20:53] got to the end but nuvur got the credits [20:54] antiwire: lol thats an epic fail [20:54] aye [20:54] s/nuvur/never [20:54] it was a totally home brew modded car and had airbags for the suspension too, which also deflated and left the car sitting on the frame. they totally ruined it dragging it onto the flat bed to get it the hell out of the intersection [20:55] slackytude2: back when descent was new, single player was all I could do (no LAN back then, only a dialup 'net connection...) [20:55] lol [20:55] lowrider malfunction [20:55] i want an old VW bus with bags [20:55] ehhh. He was trapped inside the car for 45 minutes? [20:55] you wouldn't want q lowrider on the ciuty streets here believe me! you'de be leaving a trail of undercairrage [20:55] lol [20:55] I want an old VW bus with antigravity... [20:56] lol [20:56] yeah, lowriders are pretty to look at but not at all practical [20:56] Urchlay, we played descent1 with multiplayer. got local mates to play it with. [20:56] later you could even do it per internet [20:56] for that ultra retro fun [20:57] I found a good deal on a 2003 Mercury Marauder. now all I need is the $ [20:57] I remember playing Doom II with 2 486s and a 386... one 486 had 2 serial ports, the other 2 machines were connected to it with long-ass nullmodem cables [20:57] Urchlay> try getting that to workt oday [20:57] here in oklahoma some people make lowriders out of chevy silverado pickups, i would like to see them actually haul a load with them like filling the back full of oak firewood [20:57] heh, nullmodem, man, that takes me back [20:58] heh when I was at SHL we used to play Quake over the LAN every Friday afternoon. Tch SUpport vs Programming vs Process COntrol [20:58] built them by hand out of printer cables and stuff [20:58] those were all 486's [20:58] binskipy2u (n=binskipy@190.199.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] ElSlackidente: if I still had those old machines I bet they'd still work :) [20:58] Urchlay> yeah [20:58] hey guys, any idea when 13 thats true 64bit will come out? [20:58] binskipy2u, when its ready [20:58] anyuser: the Dakota makes a better looking lowrider [20:59] slackware 13 isnt even out yet [20:59] ElSlackidente, he was asking for release date [20:59] Nick change: ElSlackidente -> Slackster [20:59] when is duke nukem forever coming out [20:59] I did once get the old DOS game Blood working over the internet, with 2 instances of dosbox running emulated serial comms over TCP... that was before I discovered Transfusion [21:00] whats your hurry, Slack-12.2 is sill plenty good and new [21:00] itll be nice to see how slackware does on my 64bit box. just dont use it now, cause it misses 765 mb of my ram [21:00] Urchlay> whats transfusion [21:00] nice to use nice stability w/slacks philosophy on a 64bit pc [21:00] binskipy2u> free -m [21:00] if i had the money to pimp my ride... id buy a new longboard, that snes,sega,nes etc emulator handheld from china, and a sack a weed.... [21:00] transfusion = Blood levels/graphics ported to a Quake engine (opengl, much prettier than DOS Blood ever was) [21:00] binskipy2u> slackware64 is out [21:01] Slackster: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/games/transfusion/ <-- enjoy [21:01] what do you have? 5 gigs? you probably dont even see a performance hit without that 765 megs of ram [21:01] who cares? it'd be stupid not to use it [21:01] yeah but ive veen reading you have to install 32bit, then install a 64 bit kernel then reboot and then 64bit glibcc [21:02] I wouldn't mind grabbing that Mauaruder. Add some cold air intake and mayeb twin turbos. Then a rear spoiler would be a necessity heh. [21:02] seems like a lot of work , then to just wait till 13 comes out [21:02] binskipy2u: fine, so wait until 13 comes out [21:02] it's got 168k km's but not bad for a 7 year oold car [21:02] lol Urchlay [21:02] binskipy2u: you *can* make an iso out of slackware64-current and install it like you would a slackware release [21:03] NyteOwl: thats a good amount. my first car had 320k when i sold it for 200 USD [21:03] i seen the "unofficial" 64bit current builds [21:03] binskipy2u: but the rule for running -current is, "if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces" [21:03] hahahaha [21:03] Urchlay> you need to buy blood to play? [21:03] but it was about 12 years old [21:03] http://www.junauza.com/2009/05/10-unknown-but-useful-linux-terminal.html [21:03] Cann0n: mine is 19 model eyars old and has less than 145k :) [21:04] lol [21:04] what the hell raock are they living under, I use at least half of them everyday. [21:04] Slackster: nope. They got a license from the original copyright owners to redistribute the converted graphics/levels/etc, that slackbuild is build, install, and run [21:04] if i lived where i had a sidewalk, id skate everywhere [21:04] XGizzmo: unknown commands?!?! [21:04] mi max range is 14 miles one way [21:04] who doesn't know them?! [21:04] s/mi/my [21:04] just get the feeling slackware kde 4.2.3, xfce 4.6.1 are "faster" "more stable" and less "bloat" then kubuntu 9.04, xubuntu 9.04 [21:05] I must admit I have something else to drive too so the mileage gets distributed between two vehicles [21:05] XGizzmo: heh, I've seen that same list on some other site, a while back.. whoever put that up, didn't even write it themselves apparently [21:05] binskipy2u: shhhhhhh. [21:05] "er.. will be more stable, etc [21:05] mm, slackware is quite bloated, don't let anyone fool you [21:05] O_o [21:05] Urchlay> thanks [21:05] it's the aqua theme that does it heh [21:06] Slackster: eh, Transfusion doesn't let you play regular old single player Blood... you can play multiplayer against bots though [21:06] slackware is only bloated if you let it get bloated [21:06] i dont mean bloated as in space, wtih 500+gig hd , there's no such thing as bloat [21:06] bloat as in crap you just dont use, or need [21:06] try netbeans [21:07] netbeans, netbeans, good for your netheart... [21:07] yeah. slackware comes with apps i install and have NEVER openned yet. dont care to either. [21:07] Urchlay: LMFAO [21:07] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-33.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] look out for the virtualgas [21:08] it can precipitate brainfarts [21:08] public class LowerIntestine extends Intestine { [21:08] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] binskipy2u, I did a pre order for slack 13 [21:08] the bloat is how you set it up. i have desktop icons and sounds... and everything else in kde. [21:08] and a t-shirt [21:08] bbiab [21:08] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [21:09] ugh. That's just too nasty to continue [21:09] yeah, its java [21:09] exactly [21:10] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [21:11] Urchlay> cool, what about humans [21:11] i want a slackware tshirt [21:11] ! [21:11] buy one [21:11] no job [21:11] lol [21:11] get a job [21:11] Hermann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:11] bbl.....dinner awaits. [21:11] later [21:11] binskipy2u (n=binskipy@190.199.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] Slackster: sure, if you can find any humans who have Transfusion and want to play... I think there's even a #transfusion IRC channel on freenode [21:12] lol [21:12] good point [21:12] been a while since I messed with transfusion though, everyone might be playing a newer version of the game [21:12] Im going to sleep [21:12] see ya, mates [21:12] nite, slackytude2 [21:12] i wish i had a cryo-chamber! [21:13] i want to sleep until my girl gets leave again [21:13] Cann0n: your fantasies involve being frozen in carbonite? [21:13] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A73BB3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "offski" [21:13] Urchlay: yeah... as long as butt plugs are an options [21:13] Urchlay> how do i play transfusion online against bots...dont really see any servers showing up...gotta start a dedicated? [21:14] Slackster: IIRC, not a dedicated server, but you do gotta start a server [21:14] Hermann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [21:14] kk [21:14] (dedicated, meaning CLI/console, no that's not required, I remember that much) [21:14] I wonder if postal will run in wine. [21:14] yes [21:14] hm, what's postal? [21:14] Action: Urchlay wishes he could find his Redneck Rampage CD [21:15] Urchlay: i tell you what! EEEEEEE HAAAAW! [21:15] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] Urchlay> me too dude [21:15] man, I haven't even thought about that game in years [21:16] wonder if anyone ever ported the engine to linux... [21:16] Urchlay> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies AND collection%3Aspeed_runs AND subject%3A"Postal 2" [21:16] hm. RR is a build engine game [21:16] need a remake for it [21:16] with 3d models [21:16] Is anyone here familiar with grub 0.97 that comes as an extra in slackware12.2? [21:17] yeah it;s a bootloader [21:17] lostnhell: yes why? [21:17] yep bootloader [21:17] grub < lilo [21:17] GRUB > lilo ;) [21:17] hey did anyone mention that grub is a bootloader? [21:17] haha [21:17] lf4, is it possible to setup a splashimage on that version? [21:17] antiwire: i dont think so [21:17] I'm pretty sure grub is a bootloader [21:18] I prefer lilo, but it didn't want to work on my HD [21:18] i hate grubs... ugle ass larva eating dead wood and dirt..... [21:18] http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ [21:18] lostnhell: never tried that lol I always disable splash images on any bootloader [21:18] lostnhell> orly [21:19] I hate the look of grub, I'm looking for a way to make it look different [21:19] follow the standard grub documentation [21:19] lostnhell: you can change the color ;)\ [21:19] it will work on slackware [21:20] if you're spending a whole lot of time looking at your bootloader, you're doing it wrong... [21:20] thats why you use slackware [21:20] i'd just fix lilo [21:20] Urchlay: Haha what?!?! Really? [21:20] Urchlay++ [21:20] uh, in extra, in the grub directory...there is a README [21:20] it's fairly verbose... [21:20] Guess I should change that boot time from 6000 then lol [21:21] 100 is okay ;) [21:21] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:21] in theory grub can do some nice things though... ls your files without an OS booted yet, boot arbitrary images... but in practice I've never felt a burning need to do that stuff [21:21] this seems fairly simple, but it doesn't want to work.... splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/greensplash.xpm.gz [21:22] compact option ftw! [21:22] Urchlay: I do because I have a selection in GRUB that boots to CD :) [21:22] I'm just glad that now I have slack12.2, slack-current and slack64-current all installed as physical installs [21:23] your bios doesn't already boot CDs? [21:23] Urchlay: it does but it was annoying me lol [21:23] or is it one of those silly BIOSes that will try to boot CD, but freeze up if there's a music CD in the drive? (man I hated those...) [21:24] Action: lf4 <--- lazy lol if figuring out how to add a BOOT CD in grub words lol [21:25] Urchlay: No more I would sometimes forget and leave a CD in the drive and when the system boots it would boot to the CD and I would get annoyed and have to take the CD out. Yet I did not want to do an extra step of trying to press F12. So :) simple solution add a selection to GRUB :) [21:25] lol grub is so dead to me [21:25] this one machine, I had about a 1-second window during the POST when pressing the CD-ROM eject button would actually work... so if I forgot & left a music disc in there, I'd get stuck in an infinite loop of "reboot, try to press button in time... dammit! crash, reboot, repeat..." [21:25] hahaha [21:25] wow thats funny [21:25] ive never had issues with this laptop after i fixed everything...... [21:26] A_666_A (n=xxx@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Nick change: A_666_A -> sidmario [21:29] this was in like 1997 [21:29] lostnhell> /boot is your first partition? [21:29] Slackster, yes it is [21:30] back in the days of AT power supplies, I had a box rigged up so you could turn on just the cd-rom drive without powering on the motherboard or anything else [21:30] used it as a cd player [21:31] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] Slackster, My menu.lst - http://pastebin.com/d31f6e194 [21:34] well, i will see yall in a few weeks [21:34] later! back to the internetless woods i go [21:35] Cann0n (n=jack@64-193-70-68.jck.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:36] pthreat (n=ctd@host44.190-225-134.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:36] hi im willing to try kde 4, do i just download everything in current on slackware/kde ? [21:37] no [21:37] was it on testing/kde ? [21:37] testing/packages/kde [21:37] kde on -current is compiled against -current, not 12.2 [21:38] pthreat, what version are you looking at on the server? [21:38] Hermann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:38] right now 4.2.3 [21:38] thats the one [21:38] pthreat, what version of slackware? [21:38] 12.2 [21:38] if you install that on slackware 12.2, it won't work [21:39] cool so where do i get the packages [21:39] there are no packages for kde4 for 12.2 [21:39] and /grub/greensplash.xpm.gz exists????????/ [21:39] pthreat, I would recommend setting up a vm or physical install of current for you to test KDE4 [21:40] Nick change: ClaudioM -> ClaudiTomasi [21:40] Slackster, yes it does [21:40] you created /grub/ ? [21:41] eddie_grey (n=eddie@189.34.57.38) left irc: "Fui embora" [21:41] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.76.24) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:42] Slackster, the grub directory was created when I installed grub, I moved the files from a shared partition to a /boot only partition and setup symlinks to work around the issues with looking for the boot directory on the partition. [21:42] jeev> http://www.foreignaffairs.com/print/62614 [21:42] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.12.16) left irc: "Leaving" [21:43] lostnhell> just change the /grub/ to /boot/ and try it [21:43] in the config [21:44] Slackster, greensplash is in /boot/grub/ or /grub by symlinks, how would changing /grb/ to /boot/ help? [21:44] because its simpler [21:45] pthreat: kde used to be in testing/ when 12.2 was out, but it's since been moved to kde/ and compiled against -current. so it cannot be installed on slackware 12.2 and expected to work [21:46] So that means that i have to update to current [21:46] ? [21:46] if you want to run kde4, that is one method, yes. [21:47] Slackster, I have moved the file to the root of the partition and changed menu.lst, I will be back after I test it. [21:47] otherwise, you'd have to compile it yourself against 12.2 [21:47] Nick change: Slackster -> Slaxor [21:47] thrice`: compiling sounds good [21:47] root? lol ok [21:47] pthreat: if so, you'll have to hunt down the 30 or so new depdendencies, compile and install them, and then compile all of kde [21:47] pthreat, you can use aliens script to download all current files and make an ISO to setup an installation. http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [21:48] Action: jeev smacks thrice` [21:48] brb [21:48] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:49] smps (n=smps@193.170.53.51) joined ##slackware. [21:49] bbiab [21:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] equant (n=equant@ip70-176-188-151.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:50] how do you install openoffice in slackware? [21:51] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] on its download page, its only available in rpm and deb [21:51] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.2/openoffice.org-3.1.0_en_US-i586-1_rlw.tgz [21:53] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:53] it looks like slackster left [21:55] i seriously can't believe how awesome slackware is. [21:55] did pthreat find a solution to his liking? [21:56] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.88.159) joined ##slackware. [21:57] lostnhell: I think im updating to current [21:57] lostnhell: lol didnt leave just changed name :) [21:57] Alien's script running here [21:57] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:58] pthreat, read through the options to find the best ISO type and server for your use [21:58] pthreat, also will you be doing a physical or vm install? [21:59] nah ill just update as usual [22:00] since everyone else on the dev team seems to be using current [22:00] with no problems. I just hope pat's not lying :p [22:00] anyone know how to accurately get a duration of wav file? - I tried mplayer -identify but it shows 12008.08 when the duration is 64.01 [22:01] pthreat, I am using 12.2, current and 64current, will you be going 32 or 64 bit? [22:02] 32 [22:02] -current is running very well. as long as you upgrade carefully, you'll be fine :) [22:03] and follow the instructions... [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] hackeron: soxi -d file.wav [22:07] Urchlay: # soxi -d 024416.wav [22:07] 00:00:00.00 [22:07] How would I tell what driver my laptop is using for the video card? lsmod |grep agp wont work because its a laptop. [22:07] probably means the RIFF header is bad [22:07] will that wav file actually play OK in various different apps? [22:08] lf4, lspci|grep VGA [22:08] (are you sure it's even a wav file? what does "file 024416.wav" say?) [22:08] Urchlay: yep, plays fine with mplayer, sox can read it, quicktime, you name it [22:08] lostnhell: tried that as well with no return either [22:08] i think mplayer -identify is the best you'll get [22:08] check the config file [22:08] Urchlay: 024416.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44000 Hz [22:09] lf4: read your xorg log to see what it loads [22:09] Urchlay: yes, there is no duration in the RIFF header, I want something that will actually read the file to find the duration [22:09] Urchlay: or figure out the rate and use filesize [22:09] hackeron: you might try using sox to rejuvenate it... "sox 024416.wav output.wav" and see if the output.wav has a proper RIFF header [22:10] audacity [22:10] Urchlay: sox created the file in the first place straight from alsa :) [22:10] weird. Thought sox would fix the header on exit... [22:11] does someone in here uses scim [22:11] thrice`: lol darn its the nv driver haha no wonder its so slow... :P [22:12] Urchlay: it does normally, trouble is when it comes straight from alsa, even a kill -1 makes it not write the duration [22:12] lf4, it is weird that lspci is not locating the video device, since it is detected my onboard audio device, can you pastebin the lcpi output? [22:12] hackeron: if you try "sox 024416.wav test.wav" does the resulting test.wav have a good header? [22:13] lostnhell: I dont know why lsmod |grep nv did not find the stupid driver that xorg.conf is loading but I got it worked out now :) [22:13] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] Urchlay: yeah, it does - but it's cpu and io intensive [22:13] (If I could remember where the duration is stored in the header I'd test it myself...) [22:13] so i'm installing slack in a vm on my netbook. it's initializing the package tree and it's soooo slow [22:13] lostnhell: I never said lspci is not locating the device it saw the card I just did not know what driver it was loading. [22:14] nv is an xorg driver not a kernel driver [22:14] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:14] hackeron: the other idea, can you not tell sox ahead of time how long to record for, instead of killing it? (depends what you're doing I guess) [22:14] scim, anyone? [22:15] Urchlay: heh, well, that's the problem :) [22:15] Urchlay: the rate at which audio is coming in from the sound card is totally off - by like 20 seconds every 2 minutes! [22:15] XGizzmo: I did not know that, :) Thanks for the info. [22:15] Urchlay: so if I ask sox to record for 2 minutes, it will actually record for 1 minute 40 seconds [22:15] hackeron: if that doesn't fit your use case, you're probably better off using something smarter/friendlier than sox... or find a utility that can repair a broken RIFF header (presuming that can be done without using all the CPU sox uses to do the same job...) [22:15] amazon10x: what are the specs of your netbook, any vm requires a lot of ram [22:16] hackeron: sounds like sox thinks your card is in 44.1KHz mode, but the card thinks it's in 48KHz? [22:16] Urchlay: so then I want to figure out the length, then figure out how much longer it should be, then run sox input speed 1.35 output.wav or however much the difference needs to be [22:16] anyuser: it's the atom processor that is making it go so slow probably [22:16] i gave it 256MB of ram i believe. i've got 1G in the laptop [22:16] some cards are so dumb, they can *only* capture at 48KHz [22:16] zacharym (i=zachary@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [22:16] Urchlay: no, I record at 32000, that's closest I could find to realtime -- I tried 44000 and 48000 and then 2 minutes of audio is like 30 seconds in reality [22:17] yuck [22:17] amazon10x, are you installing from an ISO or physical media? [22:17] intertubes [22:17] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "sleeping" [22:17] i did the usbboot.img [22:17] Urchlay: yeah, the card is really crap, but it's the only budget one I could find with 8 audio inputs :) -- it's fine when I get the speed right with sox speed - problem is getting the correct multiplier there [22:17] is it 30 seconds because of dropouts, or does it play chipmunk-style? [22:17] i'm using this to try to create an openvz template so that i can run it on my VPS [22:18] amazon10x, the installation in this case is most likely throttled by your internet connection [22:18] 8 audio inputs... what are you doing, trying to record an album with sox? Probably better off with something nicer... [22:19] (I mean I love sox, it's great for what it is, but it's got limitations) [22:19] amazon10x, or the server you are downloading from, if you are attempting the install from the official slackware ftp you should expect it to be slow...really slow [22:19] Urchlay: depends on the channel, some channels it plays chipmunk-style - other times there are overruns [22:20] 64-bit AND a new package compression format. [22:20] The autistic part of me is afraid of change. [22:20] smps (n=smps@193.170.53.51) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:20] lostnhell: nah, i'm grabbing it from the USC mirror. i'm only installing the required packages though, so it shouldn't be too bad [22:20] Urchlay: so my solution is to always record with speed 2 so that it's always chimpmunk-style -- but then adjust the speed with sox speed :) [22:20] hackeron: yuck [22:20] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "i will get all the sleep i need when i die, perhaps that will be now :o" [22:21] Urchlay: no, I'm recording CCTV -- here it is in action: http://leom.homeip.net/cctv/events - user/pass: demo/demo [22:21] Urchlay: currently A/V sync is absolutely terrible :) [22:23] hm. Currently either nobody's making any sound in the reception area, or the app doesn't work in my browser :) [22:23] Urchlay: erm, look at events on saturday or something [22:24] _ohm (n=mark@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] what are you using for video capture? [22:25] Urchlay: motion (http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/MotionGuide) [22:25] ledubr60 (n=ledubr@201.19.111.38) joined ##slackware. [22:25] Urchlay: what do you think, neat little web app? :) [22:25] yeah, pretty cool [22:26] ledubr60 (n=ledubr@201.19.111.38) left irc: Client Quit [22:27] ohhhh man. i just realized tomorrow is monday [22:27] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-160-5.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] really [22:29] anyuser (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:29] :p [22:29] amazon10x: lol, go to sleep [22:31] antiwire: you around? [22:31] Urchlay: ok, here's my solution, lol - I'm going to store time in seconds_since_epoch.nano_seconds on start and end - then recreate wav to get duration, then check what duration sox thinks it has against actual duration, then calculate speed, then encode to faac and mux in mp4 :) [22:31] Urchlay: simple ;) [22:32] ...thought you were worried about CPU usage though? [22:32] Urchlay: I am - have any better ideas? [22:33] ledubr (n=ledubr@201.19.88.159) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:34] other than "buy a less crappy sound device", not really... [22:34] is possible it's a driver issue, not actual crappy hardware, I guess [22:36] Nick change: ClaudiTomasi -> TomaTomasi [22:36] pthreat (n=ctd@host44.190-225-134.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:36] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [22:36] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:37] How can I tell what vga=### was used in the bootloader once the system is running? [22:37] Nick change: TomaTomasi -> ClaudioM [22:37] Urchlay: maybe driver, maybe both - these cards are dirt cheap :) -- if these cards cost me $150 - a quality 8 audio channel input card is normally like what, $800? [22:37] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) joined ##slackware. [22:37] Urchlay: a tiny little work around to make audio/video sync is well worth the price ;) [22:38] lf4: lilo.conf [22:38] eh, so your "live" isn't really live? (I mean you've got encoding delays...) [22:39] Urchlay: erm? -- no, live is live [22:39] Urchlay: it's mjpeg coming straight from the motion detection daemon - unlike mpeg4 that requires buffer time [22:40] I am going to have mpeg4 too for completeness, but that will have some built in buffer/keyint delay which is just unavoidable :( [22:41] Dominian: Got it working :) had to convert the hex to dec [22:41] Action: Dominian nods [22:42] I meant encoding delays due to having to mux the audio... or does the live stuff have no audio? [22:43] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] either that or I'm fundamentally misunderstanding what you're doing... [22:48] Action: acidchild maces Dominian [22:48] shit [22:48] I had my mouth open and everything [22:48] now I won't be able to taste my damn beer! [22:49] gimme a beer plz. [22:49] make beer [22:50] i'd rather grow weed [22:50] gcc error: no man found [22:50] its legal in california now apparently [22:50] Error: missing "hops" and "barley" dependencies for "beer" [22:51] Nick change: zacharym -> zGhost [22:51] haha [22:54] Holy crap, your makefile for beer has dependency checking. Is this still Slackware? ;-) [22:55] with Slackware, you always have the right dependencies for beer. [22:55] If you get a dependency missing.. you forgot to install the b/ series [22:56] LOL [22:57] I just ordered a new computer that is significantly faster than my ancient PIIIs. [22:57] I'll have a lot less time to drink during the Slackware installation... [22:57] heh [22:58] Has anyone in here written a driver before? I'm looking for a simple project to learn how it works [22:58] fiftysixer (n=fiftysix@cyruslopez.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] hiptobecubic: I've never written a driver, but my impression is that they're far from simple projects. [23:00] ...still, if you're looking for something, my scanner needs a linux driver. :-D [23:00] Lufbery_jaa: I had that impression looong time ago [23:00] would the xrandr command return hardware based results or would it be based on the xconf file? [23:01] http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/drivers_linux [23:02] Lufbery_jaa, simple devices might be simple projects :) [23:03] Are most drivers written in c? [23:03] kernel drivers pretty well must be written in C [23:03] the ones for the linux kernel are [23:04] hiptobecubic, have you reviewed the kernel modules to find references for drivers? [23:04] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009172024.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:05] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:05] lostnhell, i just started poking around them today and reading about it [23:05] it'd be possible to write a driver in assembly, but you'd be tied to one platform [23:05] Urchlay, yeah that seems like a terrible idea unless you need the driver to be super-tweaked [23:05] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.129.215) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009172024.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:05] you don't need to write "drivers" in assembly [23:06] C can [23:06] I didn't say anyone needs to [23:06] I said it'd be possible (and not a good idea) [23:06] complex drivers should be written in C instead of assembly [23:06] well sure [23:07] even dumb drivers should be written in C [23:07] A buddy of mine did a lot of work in the early '90s designing, building, and programming integrated circuit boards. I think he told me that most of that was in assembly. [23:07] for portability if nothing else [23:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:07] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009172024.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:08] and hiptobecubic left [23:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.102) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:09] hiptobecubic, I just reviewed some mouse drivers, they appear to be reasonably simple, you could try working on that [23:09] lostnhell, that's what i'm talking about :D I'll check it out [23:10] cd .. [23:11] goodnight all [23:11] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-160-5.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.2.1" [23:12] good [23:14] indrift (n=id@89.179.29.132) joined ##slackware. [23:14] good night all:) [23:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:16] indrift (n=id@89.179.29.132) left irc: Client Quit [23:16] indrift (n=id@89.179.29.132) joined ##slackware. [23:17] ok, I'm bored, so I'm out to play agmes, later all [23:17] slKIvs (n=ivan@29.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:17] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_rest_for_the_wicked [23:17] how about *that* [23:17] ... [23:19] Urchlay: live stuff has no audio - I will add audio live streaming soon :) [23:19] ah, OK [23:21] Hey Urchlay, how's it going? [23:21] firebird619: slowly... [23:21] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] my internet sucks when it rains [23:21] Urchlay: so far so good :) -- have code that spits out: duration: 131.072 actual: 119.987379789 speed: 1.09238155071 [23:21] like my brain seems to be about half numb. Writing man pages has that effect after a few minutes... [23:21] nix_chix0r: it was storming here. It's over now. [23:22] i fell asleep and now i'm starving so i'm thawing out chicken to make kievs or whatever [23:22] you can pretty much thaw out two pounds of chicken breast in 30minutes with cold water [23:23] yeah..it's..whatever bra [23:23] cool story, bra [23:23] firebird619, take that and open it up stuff in meunster cheese and onions, then roll it in breadcrumbs bake 35min on 350 bam good eats [23:23] who you calling a brassiere? [23:24] how's it going antiwire? [23:24] all good [23:24] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.129.215) left irc: "fui" [23:24] i just got back from the local brew house [23:24] antiwire: cool, I found my duke3d disk while waiting for the storm to end. [23:24] nice [23:24] make it happen [23:24] antiwire: if you still have most of your brain cells, wanted to bug you about eduke32 LAN play [23:25] Urchlay: yes! [23:25] we've got a storm going here too [23:25] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:25] Host: eduke32 -net -p25000 /n0:2 && Joining computer: eduke32 -net serveriphere:25000 [23:25] antiwire: I've got it working OK, but the entire time, it has the message "out of sync, please restart game" on the screen [23:25] Urchlay: I've never seen that [23:26] (it doesn't seem to *play* like it's out of sync, it just says that...) [23:26] -n0 and -n1 modes both do that [23:26] I played my brother in coop for 25 minutes over a wifi link and never saw anything strange [23:26] oh, did you do the lan play with or without the HRP? [23:26] with HRP [23:26] linux host, windows XP guest [23:26] (I tried both & get the same results) [23:27] at least once, the game froze on the client when I exited the server (ended up having to kill X to get the damn keyboard back) [23:27] dang i must have been lucky [23:28] it worked great but i was surprised that it did so [23:28] either that, or something's not quite 64-bit-clean (one machine is slack64, the other is 32-bit 12.2) [23:28] ah [23:28] I wouldn't put it past those extra bits [23:28] but in that case I'd expect it to utterly fail, not 99% work with minor weirdness like it's doing... *shrug* [23:28] is eduke32 in the respritories? [23:29] stealth-: slackbuilds.org [23:29] antiwire: k, thanks [23:29] looks like it might run well on my old laptop :) [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] depending on how old the laptop is, you might want to skip the hires pack... [23:30] stealth-: the maps initially take a moment to convert but after that it's nice [23:30] (try with the hires pack first, remove it if it's too slow) [23:30] what takes my 1.83ghz core duo laptop 20 seconds takes my brother's Pentium-M 1.2 about 50 seconds [23:31] well its a dell latitude (500 megs ram, P3, with integrated graphics since its a laptop [23:31] haven [23:31] Why is linux just so damn crap? [23:31] someone please tell me why [23:31] :/ [23:31] ..... [23:31] acidchild: it's a feature [23:31] haven't timed it, but it takes a minute or 2 on my athlonxp 1.2 [23:31] antiwire: i'm sorry, but i was never asked if i wanted this feature when i bought my PC from PCworld.. [23:31] acidchild: you know, crap can only get better right? [23:31] acidchild: why is your trolling so annoying? Please tell me why :/ [23:32] antiwire: crap tends to rott [23:32] acidchild: see, if we start with crap it looks freaking RAD when the bugs get fixed 6 months later [23:32] and get worse. [23:33] stealth-: well it all goes back to 1832 [23:33] lmao [23:33] i would share this wise and insightful story but i don't think you can handle it. [23:33] stealth-: but i think we concluded that your crap too [23:34] back in those days, I used to tie an onion to my belt. That was the style, you know... [23:34] well of course [23:34] get wiv it man [23:34] and your shoes had buckles, forget about laces [23:34] and made of wood. [23:34] :D [23:34] or dead peoples feet :> [23:35] i had the skin shoes because my family had more goats than yours. [23:35] hm. Wood shoes, you could leave splinters in someone's ass [23:35] what's better than skin for protection? MOAR SKIN. [23:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.97) joined ##slackware. [23:35] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [23:35] antiwire: do you mind testing out my new, improved eduke32 slackbuild? [23:36] acidchild: me, crap? Hey, im not the one too dumb to figure out linux. [23:36] I will but not immediately. I have to take a walk before my head explodes [23:36] (I'll have to email it to you, DCC doesn't work in here) [23:36] stealth-: whos too dumb to figure out linux? [23:36] yeah DCC is evil anyway [23:36] acidchild: most people who think linux is crap think that because they cant handle it. [23:36] I've installed mplayer and enlarging the screen leaves the image small, full screen just leaves a small image in middle of screen. How can I change that? [23:36] acidchild: sorry for stereotyping you, but you act like most those people [23:36] acidchild: this is the most ironic conversation I have seen yet [23:36] te_: change your video output driver :-) [23:37] antiwire: i know hahaha [23:37] acidchild: lol. Your not a troll, are you? [23:37] acidchild: Oh so it's the video drive that does that?/ [23:37] stealth-: well he's trollin' you pretty damn effectively [23:37] te_: do like -vo list? ot -vo help [23:37] te_: try "-vo xv" on the mplayer command line. Watch mplayer's debug output, and if you see it griping about not being able to use xv, then fix your video driver :) [23:37] Oh, no, I'm the troll :) [23:38] Action: stealth- is confused :/ [23:38] te_: read the mplayer manual. [23:38] :> [23:38] heh. It takes a while to read that... [23:38] acidchild: Ok, will read the fine manual... [23:38] or go to preferances in gmplayer... and look at the list of output drivers.. select one that works for you :-) [23:38] acidchild: But tnx for info. [23:38] im wondering is acidchild just used that linux insult as a "hi guys" type of thing or if he just came in to piss people off and has never been here before [23:38] Urchlay: i was sick once and read the nmap manual because the internet was down [23:38] :P [23:38] lol [23:38] acidchild: Oh I see... [23:39] stealth-: never seen this acidchild before now. :P [23:39] stealth-: oh he's been here [23:39] he's been here the whole time. [23:39] Hey chopp [23:39] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.97) left irc: Client Quit [23:39] masta lurker [23:39] stealth-: he's been here since this IRC channel operated on smoke signals and carrier pigeons [23:39] heh [23:39] seriously, i've never seen any of you fucking weirdos before. [23:39] what are you on about. [23:40] what? what's that noise? who's there? [23:40] antiwire: firebird619 [23:40] firebird619: I BUY YOU BIG PONY TO RIDE TO WORK [23:40] hey firebird619 [23:40] U LIKE YAH? [23:40] IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR DAUGHTER [23:40] YAH? [23:40] JAAHH [23:40] lol [23:41] what the...haha [23:41] haha what? [23:41] antiwire: i BUY YOUR DAUGHTER FOR FIVE DOLLAH YESH? [23:41] "How much for the leetle girrl?" [23:41] chopp: http://imagebin.org/51049 [23:41] for the leetle girrrl [23:41] hahaha [23:41] lf4: ^^^ look at that too. [23:41] Ok, now I see the mistake I made. I installed from the tgz enerated from my desktop, (here on my laptop) - should have gone back to slackbuilds and started from scratch. [23:41] te_: yesshh ;) [23:41] firebird619: looks nice :D [23:41] te_: ldd `which mplayer` [23:41] run that.. see whats missing. [23:42] stealth-: i'm playing around :-P [23:42] te_: that should work if both machines run the same slackware version and have all the necessary libraries installed... [23:42] firebird619: Nice lol what still dont get what acidchild and antiwire are going on about. Haha [23:42] acidchild: I figured. Sorry about that first part, then. :) [23:42] (usually works if the compile was done on an older slackware, too, but not guaranteed) [23:42] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] s/what/but [23:42] firebird619: wow, the sky was just a tad black. That was todays storm? [23:42] stealth-: i'm made of leet juice. [23:42] acidchild: ill take your word for it [23:43] chopp: yeah, just took that about an hour ago. [23:43] stealth-: LOL [23:43] ldd's not going to show anything missing: he said mplayer does run (just with postage-stamp-sized display) [23:43] it's paaaayper....pAAAAyeerr [23:43] Urchlay: so? [23:43] Urchlay: depends on how mplayer is built to if its gonna bail out for missing libs. [23:43] :) [23:43] so if there were a problem that could be detected by running ldd, he'd already have gotten "cannot open shared library" trying to run it [23:44] acidchild: lld `which mplayer` shows pretty long list of libraries, looks to be all there. [23:44] naw, you're talking about libs it loads with dlopen(), those won't show up in ldd output [23:44] so daddy how do i see them then?! [23:44] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:44] I suppose the easiest thing to do is fix what I have. It works just not quite right. [23:44] strace -e open -f mplayer 2> daddy-is-always-right.log ? [23:45] if you're lucky, the program tells you it can't find them... if not, yeah, strace [23:45] sup acidchild [23:45] nix_chix0r: hello hunnybun cake [23:45] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:45] bleah, I'm feeling too serious to be talking to you in your current mood I think [23:45] chopp: http://imagebin.org/51050 http://imagebin.org/51051 [23:45] next time i'm in some ones home and they offer me a drink or something i'll say " i could really go for a bundt cake about now" [23:45] I am not in a serious mood at all. [23:46] exactly [23:46] Shuren (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:46] antiwire: thats the best mood to be in :) [23:46] eh, except I wasn't talking to you [23:46] nix_chix0r: Urchlay is bullying me :-9 [23:46] :-( [23:46] Urchlay, be nice mayne [23:46] this is how serious I am right now: 4chan.org [23:46] hahahahaha [23:47] nix_chix0r: I'm just gonna go pre-emptively stand in the corner [23:47] s/corner/closet/g [23:47] (the corner of the front deck, where I can smoke...) [23:47] acidchild, i went in the kitchen to thaw the chicken for kievs, and 15minutes later i had chicken thawing and bbq sauce made [23:47] now who's being a bully? [23:47] and i didnt even remember making it or why [23:47] so i put it in the fridge. [23:47] Urchlay, yes hit the corner [23:48] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:48] nix_chix0r: did you make me any? [23:48] i love chicken kievs. [23:48] http://tinyurl.com/ohaiguys [23:48] i thawed out two pieces. :( [23:48] teacher's pet! [23:49] say wut? [23:49] acidchild, http://i39.tinypic.com/96lt8z.jpg i didn't get to show you this. i took that after his lunch [23:49] why is his tshirt lieing? ;/ [23:49] :o [23:49] sod off [23:49] haha ;) [23:49] i'm pulling your leg, i'd wreck you [23:49] brb smoke [23:49] o.O [23:49] llol [23:49] oh man [23:50] that's so gnarly. [23:50] he's got another shirt that says barf vader, all the linux outfits are too big et [23:50] yet [23:52] nix_chix0r: I've seen that shirt last weekend. [23:52] got it at wallgreens [23:53] i wanted to get him a whole bunch more but i stopped myself [23:53] Tonight isnt a good night [23:53] Haha yep thats where I saw it. :) he's cute. [23:53] he'll probally outgrow it in two days [23:53] indeed. [23:53] thanks:) [23:53] nix_chix0r: back to work tomorrow? [23:53] =] [23:53] feed him creatine [23:53] acidchild, yepyep [23:53] he'll get all ripped [23:54] get him a bowflex [23:54] haha [23:54] lol [23:54] i was kinda thinking soylent green myself [23:54] nordictrack [23:54] and raw eggs [23:54] YES [23:54] Nick change: UdontKnow -> wowbagger [23:54] nix_chix0r: looking forward to it? [23:55] New, Improved Soylent Green: Now with 50% more people! [23:55] acidchild, i get two weeks paid vacation i gota burn up so i'm going to england to visit mom and draggin the kid along. i officially fear flying now with a baby. i have a feeling he'll either cry or be silent. i just hope it's not screaming cause i'll be like very one of those parents who look so helpless [23:55] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:55] nix_chix0r: ah one of them parents. [23:55] the ones every body hates haha [23:56] feed him loads of peanutbutter so he makes peanut farts the whole time on the jet [23:56] nastyy [23:56] all the people who have allergens [23:56] teach them to breathe [23:56] whenever I fly, I drink heavily before and during the flight. this way it doesn't matter if the the POS goes down [23:57] the key to flying is rum. [23:57] oh my god [23:57] i flew on NYday [23:57] lot [23:57] lot's of rum [23:57] drank 1/2 a bottle of 50% vodka [23:57] lol [23:57] i was fucking plasted when my gf met me at the airport. [23:57] she was like 'ASshhhhh' [23:57] it was 9AM [23:57] :> [23:57] i did that [23:57] there's nothing like a few shots at 40k feet [23:58] a few shots? i drank 1/2l [23:58] ahaha [23:58] lmao [23:58] when i worked for northwest i drank probally 50bucks in booze and i got to my destination went to the bathroom and forgot where i was [23:58] nix_chix0r: there you go [23:58] get your baby drunk [23:58] friend called me and i told her i was stuck in the toilet [23:58] well they give tranqs to pets who fly why not a baby? [23:58] indeed [23:58] that's a good idea [23:58] :> [23:59] like 4 viles of ketamine [23:59] :> [23:59] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.97) joined ##slackware. [23:59] toss a few baby benadryls in that formula [23:59] mmhmm [23:59] watching chicken thaw is similar to paint drying [23:59] the pediatrician recommended some benadryl [00:00] --- Mon Jun 1 2009