[00:00] antiwire: some of this stuff is in brown glass chemical bottles from the 40s. [00:00] definitely taste it [00:00] Nick change: jhw_ -> jhw [00:00] antiwire: serious chemicals. the useful kind. [00:01] taste. this is serious business. [00:01] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:01] strankan (n=strankan@h43n4fls304o885.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [00:01] I think that would killall -TERM lifefunctions [00:02] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] or i'd end up as a 'tard. [00:02] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:03] well, asking how to test chemicals in a Slackware linux channel may mean you already have reached that status. [00:04] ff7h__ (n=jws@adsl-75-16-234-75.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.74.51) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:10] danc3: not really. consider that people with useful skillsets hang out here. [00:12] heviarti: true, but don't you think ##chemistry would be worth a try? [00:12] test for salt? add silver nitrate solution [00:12] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:12] if a precipitate forms you got some kind of salt [00:12] [00:12] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:12] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] egregor (n=luciano@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:13] do yourself a favor and keep the silver nitrate away from any iodine based substance... 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[00:26] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:26] Hello [00:26] islamux (n=islamux@82.114.184.43) left ##slackware. [00:26] oleh [00:26] HI antiwire =) [00:27] antiwire, i'me happy, [00:27] kde 4.3.2 <3 [00:27] i will try tonight [00:29] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:30] this is fredoslack http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/yay.jpg [00:31] looll [00:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [00:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:31] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp121-44-203-165.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] fredoslack: wow, you got that scared of yourself, you got knocked off the interwebs? [00:32] this is me http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/mrawesomeface.png [00:32] hi fire|bird [00:33] I'll get Mr. AwesomeFace tattooed across my back [00:33] just to be a dick to everyone [00:33] haha [00:33] this is slackboy >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0019.gif [00:33] check this out http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/no-category/epic-d-bah-08_31688 [00:34] I like the song [00:34] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:34] "all the gold and guns in the world couldn't get you off" yeaaahhh boy [00:34] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:36] ^^ [00:39] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) joined ##slackware. [00:43] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Action: chee emanates life [00:43] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] dammit.. no 10.0 sets [00:47] need qt. [00:49] hah. osu has 10 up yet [00:51] you feeling ok? [00:51] got a fever? need some water? [00:51] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] deco, yeaaah [00:51] fredoslack: mi french mi english :D [00:51] lol :P [00:51] ^^ [00:52] fredoslack: have you tried 9.10 ? [00:52] :P [00:53] deco, yes [00:53] but i've got a bug [00:53] with Firefox [00:53] the menus are not [00:53] antiwire: laptop I can't upgrade. [00:53] integred with Gnome :( [00:53] antiwire: limited ram, sucky audio. [00:53] if you mean opera 10.01 is final [00:53] deco, i've tried Kubuntu 9.10 >> very nice [00:53] fredoslack: oh :) [00:54] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:55] antiwire: i seriously hate neomagic. I don't know who thought up the idea of integrating sound and video into one chip.... but it's lame [00:55] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [00:55] and I think ff just lost it's ass [00:57] deco, you have the bisou de mes mouses [00:57] :p [00:57] fredoslack: lol :P [00:58] deco, je vais going to leur buy une cage tomorrow [00:58] fredoslack: that's good :) [00:58] fredoslack: how many do you have ? [00:58] deco, four [00:59] fredoslack: nice :) [00:59] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] deco, they are very sociables [00:59] :} [00:59] fredoslack: :P [01:00] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:00] ff 3 is going to barf, i know it.. [01:02] like on the 5th grade playground when one kid barfs...it sets off a massive school wide chain reaction in which 90% of the school barfs after witnessing the first barfer [01:02] lol [01:03] Action: chee gestures playfully with a kneecap [01:04] and barfoli. [01:04] chain reaction puke-a-thon [01:04] dickmunching firefox [01:04] pthreat (i=c9fa2672@gateway/web/freenode/x-szkigbktkecgsgct) joined ##slackware. [01:04] pukeapalooza [01:04] lol [01:04] hey guys need help with my joystick :/ [01:04] so, fire|bird , you got seemonkeydo compiled then? [01:04] input: GreenAsia Inc. USB Joystick as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.0/input/input8 [01:04] pthreat: sounds like a personal problem [01:04] are you coming onto me, pthreat? [01:04] are we using something that doesn't suck? graphical browser wise? [01:05] chee: No, I'm still trying to track down why ldappr.h is missing. [01:05] :{ [01:05] heviarti: tried SeaMonkey? [01:05] after hearing of your frightful troubles, i just got the binary [01:05] lol [01:05] seamonkey 2 <3 [01:06] CHEEFLAGS=-wimp [01:06] -O1337 [01:06] seamonkey 2 is great, I just have to figure out why this file is missing. [01:06] fire|bird: Is that an LDAP header? [01:06] chee: until I get it figured out and built, I'm using the binary too. :P [01:06] monkey sea, monkey 2 [01:06] sea sea sea [01:06] antiwire: indeed. [01:06] monkeyyy [01:06] =) [01:07] soooooooooooo [01:07] help [01:07] fire|bird: I have not. what does it eat? [01:07] Action: chee lols to himself faintly, tickling an antelope effortlessly with an ear [01:07] doh!, you're suppose to feed it? [01:07] why everytime I come here is useless .... [01:07] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] pthreat: you haven't shown us anything useful in trouble shooting your problem yet, mainly the actual problem or error message you are having/seeing [01:07] wb MLanden [01:08] thanks fire|bird [01:08] antiwire: Is just bullshit I always find an answer into some shit forum but I never find an answer here [01:08] pthreat, better questions tend toward better answers [01:08] :/ [01:08] pthreat: then leave. [01:08] true [01:08] better experts lead to better answers [01:09] don't simply ask if we will help with your joystick (which is disgusting, and i've notified the police) [01:09] You keep whining and still not decent information about your problem.... [01:09] I guess you're just all a bunch of improvised fucks :/ [01:09] Still bitching and no information.... [01:09] have you pressed the button A = [01:09] antiwire: alright [01:09] Ill give the info :) [01:09] show us the actual error, or perhaps describe the conditions or the malfunction [01:09] fire|bird: i am running an older release of slack. [01:09] agris2 (n=agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [01:10] hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 8 chg 0000 evt 0020 input: GreenAsia Inc. USB Joystick as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.0/input/input8 pantherlord 0003:0E8F:0003.0007: input,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [GreenAsia Inc. USB Joystick ] on usb-0000:00:02.0-5/input0 [01:10] antiwire: This is primarily what stops the show: ../../../../mozilla/dist/include/system_wrappers/ldappr.h:3:25: error: ldappr.h: No such file or directory [01:10] I'm using xmame and is not recognizing the joystick [01:10] heviarti: how old? [01:10] MLanden: 10.0 [01:11] Also, I noticed that the source that slack uses, and the source I get from seamonkey-project.org, have a different directory structure. [01:11] MLanden: laptop with limited resources and alot of trouble installing OSs [01:11] antiwire: any help, hint [01:11] i notice that i have ldappr.h here: '/usr/include/seamonkey-1.1.18/ldap/ldappr.h' [01:11] pthreat: can you paste the output of 'lsmod'? [01:12] paste bin** [01:12] sure man [01:12] heviarti:ok....got a couple desktops and an older laptop like that [01:12] chee: yeah, I do too for that, but 2.0 is a different story. :/ [01:12] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:12] pthreat: that be *pastebin* it ;) not paste it in channel. [01:12] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:12] http://pastebin.com/m4d43b276 [01:12] BP{k}: sure sure there youg o [01:13] MLanden: neomagic video/sound. 160M non-upgradeable, no boot from OS media. [01:13] no boot from usb. [01:13] ide hdd only [01:15] heviarti: what's the cpu? [01:15] PII 400 [01:15] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] MLanden: needless to say as soon as I lay hands on on a compaq M300, my mom gets this piecer. [01:16] MLanden: HP omnibook 900 [01:17] BP{k}: so what do you say [01:17] pthreat: what does this show you? zgrep HID_GREENASIA /proc/config.gz [01:18] heviarti: hear ya...been a while since I've seen any of HP's omnibooks [01:18] gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory [01:18] pthreat: uname -a [01:19] Linux localshot 2.6.31-ruupu-ruupu #7 SMP Fri Sep 18 00:01:51 ART 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux+ [01:19] MLanden: I'd be on my sparcbook, but it has some issues with wireless. [01:19] heviarti: floppy still working? [01:19] MLanden: as a matter of fact pcmcia and network connectivity kinda tank. [01:19] pthreat: ... [01:20] antiwire: yes ? [01:20] MLanden: no floppy cage. else i'd get a CD for it. [01:20] pthreat: grep rdi /etc/inittab [01:20] pthreat: grep HID_GREENASIA /where/you/have/your/source/for/your/own/build/.config [01:20] antiwire: # Modified by: Patrick J. Volkerding, [01:21] pthreat, is it his mail ? [01:21] pthreat: and just for reference: cat /etc/slackware-version [01:21] CONFIG_HID_GREENASIA=m [01:21] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [01:21] pthreat: good, next time tell people that you are on a home rolled kernel ;-) [01:22] macavity: shhhh some people are trying to help me ! [01:22] and next time, compile in /proc/config support ;-= [01:22] lol [01:22] I've had bad luck getting 2.6 to compile the first time every time. [01:22] macavity: How was the movie? [01:22] fire|bird: very good.. i have seen it before, but i enjoyed it as always [01:23] macavity: like you wouldnt compile your own kernel I'm sure you stick with huge smp [01:23] pthreat: that wasn't his point. :) [01:23] pthreat: i do compile my own kernels [01:23] macavity: wow [01:23] pthreat: and when i have a problem, i make sure to tell so ;-) [01:23] macavity: wow [01:24] or, i boot hugesmp and check if i still have the problem.. if i do, it is back to the drawing board :P [01:24] wow! [01:24] macavity: I wish to be more like you [01:24] macavity: great, look at that, you had him stuck on repeat. [01:24] zomg! [01:24] pthreat: wow [01:24] you have a long way to go. :) [01:24] fire|bird: hey ... whats youre helpfull tip for today ? [01:25] stay in school [01:25] LMAO [01:25] fire|bird: I'll tell you what [01:25] fire|bird: hushhhh [01:25] be more like .. macavity ... oh lord... [01:25] pthreat: try: modprobe hid-gaff.ko && dmesg [01:25] antiwire: yes sir [01:26] ok.. I have google books up, which is why i was fighting firefox. [01:26] heviarti: does truly place it with limited resources..:D [01:26] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:26] antiwire: no errors [01:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.252) joined ##slackware. [01:27] pthreat: what do the last 10-20 lines of 'dmesg' show you? [01:27] antiwire: one sec [01:27] MLanden: Every time I upgrade the disk I have a fight with lilo. it just isn't built to handle sda1 becoming hda1 next boot. [01:27] antiwire: pantherlord 0003:0E8F:0003.0008: input,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [GreenAsia Inc. USB Joystick ] on usb-0000:00:02.0-5/input0 drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '008' [01:28] pthreat: ls -alh /dev/js0 [01:28] ok, you sould be good to go then [01:28] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:28] or: also try ls -alh /dev/input/js0 [01:29] either way, you should now have a device that xorg can use [01:30] I think in this case the device will actually be best to use from /dev/input/$event_number_here [01:30] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:31] rworkman: Ok, it seems that ldappr.h is now in system_wrappers_js, instead of just system_wrappers [01:31] it might 'just work' with mame now too, but I'm not really sure about that [01:32] /cl [01:32] fail [01:33] pthreat: you might also want to restart X now and then pastebin use the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log [01:33] indeed [01:33] heviarti: what happens with lilo? [01:33] use/us [01:33] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.77.156) joined ##slackware. [01:35] azzrael (i=Tgl0be@AAnnecy-157-1-103-130.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:35] salut tlm [01:35] !nctcp %s TIME %t [01:36] azzrael, iooo [01:36] hey, here's a problem I don't know the answer to [01:36] yep fredoslack ; ) [01:36] I can use my keyboard in the BIOS, and I can use my keyboard in Slackware [01:37] but I cannot use it during the small space between these [01:37] for instance, when lilo is asking me to choose a partition; or when I am in the process of booting from an installation DVD [01:37] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:37] chee: is it a USB keyboard? [01:37] azzrael, tu maitrises l'english ? [01:37] salut tout le monde [01:38] Has anyone tried installing grub on slackware 13 amd64? [01:38] je me demerde fredoslack mais [01:38] poofo, non [01:38] no * sorry [01:38] it is a USB keyboard, yes. I have two USB keyboards. The other one has not this problem, but this one does. [01:38] hi there ! [01:38] azzrael, j'ai du mal lol [01:38] chee: Does your BIOS have any USB specific options, like compatibility mode or 'low speed' mode? [01:38] my BIOS has almost no options. It is the worst BIOS in the universe. [01:38] lol fredoslack ben ya pas de secret faut pratiquer [01:39] chee: but other USB keyboards don't have the same symptom? [01:39] yes azzrael ;) [01:39] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) joined ##slackware. [01:39] no, antiwire! only this keyboard [01:39] chee: is it an MS keyboard? [01:39] azzrael, ça me remember mes études ^^ [01:39] I'm having the same problem with an Ergo 4000 [01:39] chee: You that how when you see a doctor and tell him that 'it hurts when I do this"...he says "Well don't do that then." ? [01:40] it's made me think about actually engineering an Any Key that I can plug in to the ps/2 port [01:40] mes 20 years ago ' [01:40] :'( [01:40] Has anyone tried installing grub on slackware 13 amd64? [01:40] jar_corefile, it's not an MS Keyboard [01:40] poona: still no [01:40] poofo, no me, sorry [01:40] not me * [01:41] poofo, i prefer lilo [01:41] ;) [01:41] antiwire, the trouble is, this is the only keyboard in the household that is ACTUALLY MINE. i've gotten around the problem in lilo by just allowing lilo to autostart slack [01:41] fredoslack: xen apparently requires grub [01:41] xen [01:41] ? [01:41] ben vi fredoslack [01:41] what is xen [01:41] xen hypervisor [01:41] ok [01:42] poona: I don't know what version of xen, but I have a virtual colo host running slack 12.1 under xen using lilo [01:42] jar_corefile: you used mbootpack? [01:42] azzrael, tu work demain ? [01:42] poona: I don't believe so ... [01:42] tomorrow * [01:42] pardon lol [01:42] jar_corefile: got it working straight away. interesting [01:42] Im sorry [01:42] I had a fight [01:43] antiwire: ls: cannot access /dev/js0: No such file or directory [01:43] pthreat, did you win? [01:44] poona: sorry I don't remember much of the setup ... it was almost 2 yrs ago now [01:44] chee: I alsmot cut the mother fucker in two with my katana so i guess thats a win [01:44] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:44] sweet [01:44] Camarade_Tux, hi :) [01:44] Action: chee awars pthreat 6 points! [01:44] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:44] *awards! [01:44] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:44] thanks [01:44] do you sleep or do you work [01:44] :p [01:44] use them wisely [01:44] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:44] 1 2 3 4 5 6 ! aw [01:45] ! [01:45] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-75.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:45] jar_corefile: okay. Need to figure out something [01:45] ;) [01:45] or someway to get it working [01:45] :) [01:45] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-61-177.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [01:49] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:51] brb [01:51] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:51] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] chee, >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0004.gif [01:52] Action: fredoslack s'enfuit [01:53] that's me! [01:53] loool [01:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:53] heviarti (n=heviarti@70.56.203.136) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:57] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) left irc: Success [01:57] azzrael, [01:57] are you ici [01:57] =) [01:58] azzrael, une cup of cofee ? http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/xcache4.gif [01:58] hu hu [01:58] coffee * [01:58] pardon [01:59] fredoslack: you are really freaking me out now [01:59] maybe this explains it: The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (93% of Full) [02:00] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] fredoslack: Do you howl at the moon at all? [02:00] ? [02:01] my ear is blocked:( [02:01] it was a joke, so now here is fredoslack ---> :( [02:01] chee: unblock it. [02:01] can't :( [02:01] why? [02:01] dno :( [02:01] lol [02:01] it just won't unblock : ( [02:01] maybe i'm dying [02:02] is that one of the signs? [02:02] azzrael->render(); [02:02] here lies chee: \___\_O poor fella had a blocked ear. [02:03] strange place for an erection! [02:03] fire|bird, have you tried using the ldappr.h from mozilla src? [02:03] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:03] hahaha, the first \ is feet, the other one is your arms, get your mind out of the gutter. :P [02:04] Action: chee is looking at the stars [02:05] see any constellations? [02:08] fire|bird, >> present http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0014.gif [02:08] :} [02:08] Action: fredoslack s'enfuit [02:08] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:10] azzrael, je n'avais pas trop envie d'aller servir, mais à présent j'ai envie * [02:10] i didn'nt have need [02:15] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:19] Action: fire|bird plays The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go Now for MLanden. :P Welcome back. [02:20] Action: MLanden plays Yes - Perpetual Change back to fire|bird ... thanks [02:20] haha [02:22] Developers...Developers...Developers...Developers...Developers...Developers...Developers...Developers...Developers... [02:22] the end [02:22] later [02:22] Does anyone use an mp3 player that accepts some form of flash memory and is usable as a generic USB mass storage deivce? [02:22] device* [02:22] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:23] it is [02:23] what is? [02:23] IT! [02:23] i have an old rca mp3 player that holds a sd card . both devices are usable as general storage [02:23] IS! [02:23] nice [02:23] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:24] we are having weird dry weather right now [02:24] even as an xbox memory card :D [02:24] My sansa c240 takes a micro sd card and can be used for storage, but I borked the friggen thing. [02:25] who want [02:25] a cup of coffee [02:25] cf link above =) [02:25] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:25] I think fredoslack has had too much coffee [02:26] my old cell phone took microsd, played mp3 and was a generic mass storage via miniusb [02:26] antiwire, you think well lool [02:26] daedra (n=daedra@75-128-41-61.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:26] fredoslack: yup, and he didn't even need any coffee to help with the process. :P [02:26] lool [02:26] perl -le 'print "Developers [02:27] Nick change: daedra -> Guest47372 [02:27] for 0..9' [02:27] blargh [02:27] I'm about loller myself right out of here [02:27] Nick change: Guest47372 -> daedra__ [02:27] perl + vodka aren't mixing well this evening [02:27] fire|bird: you look here http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board?board.id=c200? [02:27] Which cell phone has a usb plug mounted on the bottom of the unit(exposed when you remove the cover)? [02:27] hey, purges|faulted [02:28] MLanden: I dunno, but if you find out, I want one I think [02:29] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [02:29] Urchlay: what I saw might have been a proto in a magazine [02:29] s/been/seen [02:30] you had it right the first time...? [02:30] lol....you're right [02:31] cause very soon I'm getting a phone again... they also offer cell internet service, but you have to buy a dongle for your laptop (and it's whatever the new laptop bus is called, the replacement for PCMCIA/cardbus, and I can't afford that + a new laptop that it'll plug into) [02:32] fire|bird: http://www.sandisk.com/sandisk-support/driver-download-wizard [02:32] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "all these hours just to make a damn led glow :|" [02:32] can anyone reach http://stagevu.com/video/xabzcznwwocl ? [02:32] probly run it with wine,qemu,whatever,might get lucky [02:33] macavity: links loads it up fine (appears to be something that won't usefully work in links though) [02:33] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [02:33] this film is being yanked all over the internet [02:33] azzrael (i=Tgl0be@AAnnecy-157-1-103-130.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [02:34] OK, I hit the download link, and *that* doesn't work [02:34] youtube, video.google.com etc have all taken it down, despite the fact that it permits copying [02:34] no.. i was in the process of wgetting it, and now i get connection refused [02:35] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [02:35] what's it even a video of? [02:35] User975 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] User975 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:36] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] it documents how it is now (because of the national emergency/martial law) fully legal to arrest *any* american under the pretext of "pre crime" and just lock them up and throw away the key in the FEMA camps [02:37] that is, it steps over each of the chain of congressional laws [02:37] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:37] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] google Rex 84 [02:37] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Client Quit [02:37] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [02:38] hello all, does anyone know when the slackware package website will be up? [02:38] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:38] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3010 [02:39] User214: which site are you reffering to? [02:39] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:39] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:39] http://packages.slackware.it/ [02:40] User214 (n=User@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:40] i just use slackpkg [02:41] Traveler3 (n=traveler@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] ff7h__ (n=jws@adsl-75-16-234-75.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:41] pthreat (i=c9fa2672@gateway/web/freenode/x-szkigbktkecgsgct) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [02:41] does anyone know when http://packages.slackware.it/ will be back? [02:42] i just use slackpkg [02:43] I also use slackpkg but its nice to see the list of packages on a website. [02:44] Traveler3 (n=traveler@pool-71-104-157-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:45] agris2 (n=agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: Client Quit [02:48] dchmelik1 (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: "Leaving." [02:51] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.77.156) left irc: "Leaving" [02:51] kaballas (n=johann@vc-41-31-238-82.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [02:53] johann_ (n=johann@vc-41-31-179-88.umts.vodacom.co.za) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Nick change: johann_ -> klaasvakie [02:59] Axius (n=fd@92.82.77.156) joined ##slackware. [03:00] this is weirding me out http://moronail.net/img/606_DR_Richard_Dawkins_Emma_Watson_movies [03:02] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [03:04] hm. Finally got ipfilter built & packaged up... not sure whether it's working correctly though: "modprobe ipfilter" works, but apparently drops all packets (maybe that's supposed to be the secure "deny all" default?) [03:04] probably did the pose cause the camera guy told them too, now they look the same lol [03:05] (this is in the total absence of any ipfilter config files, and without running any of the userspace tools) [03:05] Rat409: Yeah, I've checked the forums for it, and tried various things. The download wizard I tried as well, but it doesn't see the player, so it can't get the driver. [03:06] but after "modprobe ipfilter", dmesg says: IP Filter: v4.1.33 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled [03:06] apparently the default isn't to drop all... anyone ever mess with ipf at all, ever, even on BSD? [03:07] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [03:09] what's ipfstat -hio [03:09] +reveal [03:09] open(IPSTATE_NAME): No such file or directory [03:09] that's not looking so good [03:09] well yeah [03:10] oh, wait, I have to run "rc.ipfilter start" at least once to get it to create the device nodes (am used to everything using udev these days, but this don't) [03:10] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:11] ugh. The script refuses to run if there's no /etc/ipf.conf at all, what goes in there for "allow all"... that "pass in all" and "pass out all"? [03:12] yes [03:12] ok, done [03:13] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:13] and upon running "rc.ipfilter start" (it's a redhat init script), it claims to start up OK. "ipfstat -hio" shows: 0 pass out all\n0 pass in all [03:14] however the 0's I assume are counters, and they never increase (and all attempts to talk to the network fail) [03:14] yes packet counters [03:15] running "rc.ipfilter stop" actually restores everything to a working state, otherwise you wouldn't be seeing me typing to you right now... [03:16] kaballas (n=johann@vc-41-31-238-82.umts.vodacom.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:16] hm. pinging an IP on my LAN: "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" [03:17] ok, i'd have to look into your config a bit more, for now, try explicit pass rules (below those default) [03:17] pass in quick on lo [03:17] something tells me I've got a more fundamental failure [03:17] replace "in" with out for the out-0rule and then lo with eth0 or whatevv [03:17] Natenom (n=Natenom@xdsl-87-79-61-139.netcologne.de) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:18] heh. Another couple glasses of vodka and I'll configure myself to "pass out quick on floor" [03:18] cheers [03:19] think I need to try this ipfilter mess on my laptop, so I can keep on irc'ing and such... [03:20] also the laptop's 32-bit, I suppose it's possible there's non-64-bit-clean code in ipf [03:20] Axius (n=fd@92.82.77.156) left irc: Success [03:21] (to forestall the next response: this code isn't taken from FreeBSD, I think fbsd starts with this code and modifies it) [03:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:26] OMG - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k [03:27] I can't stop laughing ! [03:27] hey rk4n3 [03:27] hi :) [03:27] http://www.funlol.com/14348/Surprise_cat_attack.html [03:28] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:29] lol - nice cat video :) [03:29] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.196.45) joined ##slackware. [03:30] I hope she's not the top of the pyramid (sort of nsfw) http://www.funlol.com/14342/Should_not_be_allowed_to_cheer.html [03:30] rk4n3: yeah, I bet the cat never expected that. [03:30] haha [03:31] haha, what a sign: http://www.funlol.com/14335/Neighborhood_watch.html [03:32] klaasvakie (n=johann@vc-41-31-179-88.umts.vodacom.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:32] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [03:33] yep, ipfilter's working fine on slackwaew 32-bit [03:34] Well if it isn't overhauled|figure [03:35] whoops, I mean Urchlay. :) [03:35] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:35] eh, the script just gave me "rapier|haunches", and I went "that sounds perverted" so I ran it again [03:35] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:36] this time it said: inseminate|swain [03:36] haha [03:36] your script is broke. :P You've given it a perverted mind. [03:39] lol....guess the AI's getting ready for the holidays.:D [03:39] lol [03:39] i am glad i am not that cat :P [03:40] lol [03:40] talk about a close call: http://www.funlol.com/14350/Lucky_street_walker.html [03:45] mancha: OK, it's a 64-bit issue. Everything I've tried from the ipf-howto works fine on 32-bit, so far (include "keep state", but I haven't tried to NAT yet) [03:45] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [03:46] cool beans. what kernel ver did you make this for? [03:46] close indeed,fire|bird...talk 'bout a brownbag moment...B( [03:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:50] 2.6.29-smp (the one that ships with slackware 13) [03:51] er, 2.6.29.6-smp [03:51] If only the horse could talk: http://www.funlol.com/13776/Fat_disgusting_lady_cant_get_on_horse.html [03:51] ah ok, iirc i had some trouble with 2.6.31.x [03:52] I had some trouble with this, but nothing particularly difficult (the Makefile expects "uname -i" to print "x86_64" but it in fact prints "AuthenticAMD", libelf is required but the docs don't say so, that sort of thing) [03:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] take care,folks...talk with all later.:D [03:53] later, MLanden [03:53] later,Urchlay [03:53] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-62-62.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:54] i don't recall the error, but it was during the module compile...i'll try again sometime. so you didn't patch the module code at all? [03:56] no... I used ip_fil4.1.33 and didn't have to patch any of the module's code (just the Makefiles and a couple lines in the userspace tools' yacc code) [03:57] my first attempt was with ip_fil4.1.17 (the latest one on the FTP server, as opposed to the HTTP server), abject failure... [03:58] yeah i used .33 (geez i wish i could recall the error now) [03:58] was it definitely in the module source? [03:59] i believe so, some complain about a member in a struct, dst maybe? [04:00] *complaint [04:00] hm, sounds like it kernel version incompatibility... likely something that changed between .29.x and .31 [04:01] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] yep, i didn't motivate enough to find the changes and make the appropriate patch but you've inspired me [04:01] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-156.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [04:01] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:02] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:05] ugh, for kbuild stuff, I though "make V=1" would make it show the actual compile commands instead of just "CC [M] filename" [04:05] ok, it makes fine for 2.6.30.x (wonder wth happened with .31.x code that borks it...hope it's easy to find) [04:06] oops, spoke too soon. [04:06] rrr? [04:06] error: 'mb_t' has no member named 'dst' [04:06] in ip_film.c:676 [04:07] mb_t, eh, so much for meaningful names... [04:07] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.23.12) joined ##slackware. [04:08] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [04:09] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:09] good night [04:09] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [04:11] hm. Lookin at some of the module source. It uses fricken K&R pre-ANSI declarations. So probably gcc can't even give the warnings it should... [04:14] vdvluc_ (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: Client Quit [04:15] hm, there exists a "ansi2knr" utility, know of anything that goes the other way round? [04:17] heh. google found a knr2ansi perl script, wonder if it's any good [04:19] nawp, it just spits out declarations, not the function bodies. [04:24] hrmm, false alarm, 2.6.30.x i kosher (as i had remembered). [04:24] what, you were compiling against .31 headers by accident? [04:24] so the issue is from .30.x to .31.x [04:25] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [04:26] building against the .30.x kernel work, it borks against .31.x [04:29] argh. Looks like there used to exist a program called "protoize" that did exactly what I want, it was part of gcc... but is no longer part of gcc :( [04:30] (and trying to compile the old protoize.c source fails miserably cause it includes a bunch of stuff from the gcc source itself. Grr.) [04:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [04:39] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.196.45) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:40] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [04:43] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:43] holy crap webkit takes a long time to build [04:44] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-65-63.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:44] the upside is it is a very fast removal [04:45] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [04:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.94) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [04:47] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:47] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:48] morning [04:48] if I build wine from sbopkg with ARCH=x86_64, do I get wine32 or win64? [04:48] *wine64 [04:49] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [04:49] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-156.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:51] rworkman: can you ask pat to accept my facebook friend request? [04:53] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.94) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-16-42.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [04:56] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [04:58] alicephilippa (n=alice@217.41.231.215) joined ##slackware. [05:00] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [05:05] Camarade_Tux, wine is 32 bit. [05:05] alice (i=alice@89.194.134.29) joined ##slackware. [05:05] byteframe: there is wine and wine64 [05:06] Urch, seems this is not gonna happen tonight (im getting way too deep in kernel networking code now). as for protoizer, have you seen debians huge patchset? [05:08] Urchlay: what do you want protoize for? [05:12] good morning nice fellas [05:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:20] daedra__ (n=daedra@75-128-41-61.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:21] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] alicephilippa (n=alice@217.41.231.215) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] mancha do u know of a place that organizes distro patch lists, so there can be comparitive analysis by groups of people vs individual research [05:21] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Success [05:25] sounds too ideal to be true [05:25] lol [05:25] dont it? [05:26] for example gentoo claims to be a source distro, but yet they maintain a repository of packages that are even modified "patched" [05:26] bawhhh hahahaha [05:26] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:27] dont even get me started on slackware [05:27] im a sourcemage fan [05:30] Action: spook highfives mancha, a fellow kernel code digger [05:31] bring in the back-hoe [05:31] i broke the shovel [05:32] tooly (n=tooly@e178156212.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [05:38] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [05:38] Camarade_Tux: I have approximately one (1) metric shit-ton of crappy K&R unprototyped code [05:38] alice (i=alice@89.194.134.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:39] it compiles but fails to run correctly on amd64, and compiling it with gcc -Wall doesn't help me find what's wrong with it, because there are, eh, no prototypes (so it can't warn about any function arguments) [05:40] mancha: debian's huge patchset for what? ipfilter source? /me looks... [05:40] you mean netfilter? [05:41] no [05:41] ipfilter, aka ipf [05:41] the freebsd/netbsd firewall layer [05:41] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-65-63.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:41] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Client Quit [05:42] oh [05:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:43] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-136-178.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:43] it's been ported to linux, but apparently not to x86_64 (at least, I can get it working just fine on 32-bit slackware but not 64-bit) [05:45] Urchlay: just run it in a virtual machine :) [05:45] eh, yeah, *that* will be really useful [05:46] unfortunately it's chock-full of K&R unprototyped function declarations, which means gcc's -Wall won't warn about any of the function arguments (their types are missing in the decls, so it can't type-check them) [05:56] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:57] tamingsari (n=tamingsa@211.234.119.5) joined ##slackware. [05:59] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [06:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-16-42.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:13] Urchlay: what's the prob? gcc -Wall will tell you when args are missing [06:13] maybe with -std=c99 if you want [06:14] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.66.25) joined ##slackware. [06:16] -Wall unfortunately does not enable all of GCC's warnings [06:16] i always compile with: gcc -Wall -Wextra -pedantic -std=c99 [06:17] -Wall on its own should warn about missing args I think [06:18] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) joined ##slackware. [06:20] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) left irc: Client Quit [06:21] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [06:23] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:25] bye! [06:26] I go to compile kde 4.3.2, thanks vbatts and others for the scripts [06:26] I'll tell you how was.. [06:26] :) [06:26] leptom (i=1000@84.125.167.67.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving. Bye, bye!" [06:29] and he was never seen again [06:33] nah, maybe next week >< [06:36] err, next *month* [06:36] make it two. "and the bells rang for him" [06:36] lol [06:45] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:45] greetings [06:46] hi The-Croupier :) [06:47] hows it going bro? [06:50] Camarade_Tux: i do have an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ ... but i cannot tell how to configure the touchpad in there...:( [06:50] Action: The-Croupier believes he is in the wrong path/file :( [06:52] The-Croupier: with 13, the canonical way is to *not* have a touchpad [06:52] strankan (n=strankan@h43n4fls304o885.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:52] not have an xorg.conf :P [06:53] The-Croupier: try removing it, and restarting X [06:53] ='( [06:53] wine's slackbuild fails gpg check [06:54] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:56] oh hai ! [06:58] hi quasar [06:59] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) left irc: "Leaving" [06:59] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [07:00] god, I hate debian [07:00] noted [07:00] ;-) [07:00] Camarade_Tux: remove xorg?! and not have a touchpad?! :( [07:00] i need the touchpad...:( [07:00] The-Croupier: read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [07:00] just mv the xorg.conf ;-) [07:01] sahko: ok ;) [07:01] but dont ask me how to edit the fdi file. i disable touchpads here. [07:02] *from the BIOS [07:02] Camarade_Tux: moved it already [07:02] sahko: ok ;) [07:02] /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi [07:02] copy this to /etc/half/fdi/policy and tweak it [07:02] gotta love those policy files [07:02] i love em with a passion ... not [07:03] well, having a template is pretty nice [07:04] and I hate gnome [07:04] i just hate hal, thats all [07:04] ok [07:04] deal [07:04] and I told this crap terminal ='( [07:05] Action: Camarade_Tux is running armel debian under qemu without kqemu ='( [07:05] you really notice any speed bumps with kqemu? [07:05] yeah, qemu is slow [07:05] I'd better recompile kqemu for this kernel and restart the vm actually [07:06] if it works, it's priceless [07:07] if it's fast, it's even better :) [07:07] man vim [07:08] oops sorry...wrong terminal [07:08] :) [07:09] Phai (n=phai@120.161.231.131) joined ##slackware. [07:09] man vim ...doesnt tell me how to copy one line to another.. :( [07:10] Action: The-Croupier thinking google migh :( [07:10] bah, sbopkg keeps on failing the gpg check failed [07:10] *buntu has releasing its party [07:10] wat [07:11] Camarade_Tux: try sbopkg update...;) or read somewhere there on the top says how to update the gpg [07:12] maybe there was an update to the keys ;) [07:12] already done =/ [07:13] and.... [07:14] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [07:14] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74E28.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:15] hmm [07:16] heya Camarade_Tux, how goes it? :) [07:16] fine quasar, and you? :) [07:16] slackytude: ! :) [07:16] web_know1 (n=riba@189-18-92-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:16] tired, just about to slip into bed for the morning, thanks for asking [07:16] morning [07:16] y0 Camarade_Tux [07:16] moin [07:16] 'lo slacky [07:16] Action: slackytude got a hangover [07:17] dont chat so loud [07:17] y0 quasar , jg71 [07:18] and g'night :) [07:18] morning [07:18] y0 mrselfpwn [07:19] /etc/rc.d/rc.font.new is supposed to be named .new correct. [07:19] y0 slackytude [07:20] strankan (n=strankan@h43n4fls304o885.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [07:21] jägermeister is evil [07:22] sure, it tasts good but its just evil [07:22] in the end bites like a snake. [07:23] Natenom_ (n=Natenom@xdsl-84-44-142-96.netcologne.de) joined ##slackware. [07:24] i just see slackytude drunk dancing in front of a cobra waving his hands like a snake charmer [07:24] just had a vision [07:24] O_o [07:25] no snakes as far as I can remember [07:25] there might have been some drunk dancing tho [07:26] you dancing drunk is the key part to the story. [07:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:26] I didnt wave me hands like a snake charmer, tho [07:27] Phai (n=phai@120.161.231.131) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:27] http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2009-10-31.gif [07:27] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.94) left irc: Connection timed out [07:28] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:29] no, i'm sure you didn't. that was just my imagination. [07:30] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-178.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:31] thats settld thn [07:32] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.214.230) joined ##slackware. [07:37] juan--d-1-b (n=Juan@190.165.26.181) joined ##slackware. [07:38] slackytude: I HEARD YOU HAD A HANGOVER, IS IT TRUE? xD [07:38] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:39] Camarade_Tux, -_- [07:39] :) [07:40] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-10-231.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [07:41] the bastard didnt work... [07:41] hello everybody :) [07:41] hello pupit [07:41] question (stupid maybe): do i need hal?! what do i need it for? :( [07:41] mrselfpwn: ;) :) [07:41] hiya pupit, mrselfpwn [07:41] morning The-Croupier [07:41] hey The-Croupier [07:42] The-Croupier: yes for X autodetet [07:42] ct [07:42] Camarade_Tux: what do you mean autodetect? [07:42] if you don't want hal, you can still use xorg.conf [07:42] no xorg.conf :) [07:42] what do you mean X autodetect? [07:43] kind of running runlevel4? [07:43] i have a question too, i am installing slack 13.0 on eeePC and i cant decide should i use ext3 or ext4 filesystem? [07:43] ext3 [07:43] juan--d-_-b (n=Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:43] :) [07:43] The-Croupier: no, hardware auto-detect: display and input devices [07:43] can u explain it to me? jg71 [07:43] Camarade_Tux: but if i have xorg.conf...as before..it shouldnt be a problem right? [07:43] please :) [07:43] no pupit [07:44] The-Croupier: you can still use an xorg.conf file [07:44] it happens my touchpad worked better without :P [07:44] Camarade_Tux: ? confused.... [07:44] he ^^ [07:44] X autodetects your hardware with hal. [07:45] if you don't have an xorg.conf. [07:45] right..i mv xorg.conf...;) it works fine without it.. copied fdi file in policy as stated in changes and hints ;) [07:45] didnt tweak anything ...to see if it moves at least ..nothing happens (after restart) [07:46] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:46] hal is getting replaced soon [07:46] slackytude: with what? [07:46] policykit iirc [07:46] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-72.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:46] The-Croupier: maybe you should uncomment the line in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf [07:46] not policykit [07:46] the other *kit [07:47] devkit? [07:47] hal is being replaced. [07:47] mrselfpwn: i didnt see that in changes and hints :( maybe i should re-read [07:47] mrselfpwn: ill try that too ;) [07:47] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-167-89.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:47] yeah, devicekit [07:48] The-Croupier: It's in there it's just noted as a KVM switching fix. [07:48] i love slackpkg ;) [07:48] grep psmouse [07:48] well, slackware will keep using hal for a while yet [07:49] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp121-44-203-165.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: [07:49] hmmm, I get this for several packages: [07:49] ar: -u: (PROGRAM ERROR) Option should have been recognized!? [07:49] when building that is (slackbuilds.org) [07:49] hmm [07:49] i should start removing alot of pkgs from the last full install i did... [07:50] 12:50 ~ % which ar [07:50] /usr/local/bin/ar [07:50] WTF! [07:50] is it better to run current on fullinstall? in order to help in the testing...or just use stuff that use all the time..and disable all the rest [07:50] that's scary [07:50] Action: slackytude update 12.1 -> 13 [07:50] \o/ [07:50] thrice`: scary? [07:51] Camarade_Tux, heh, thats bad [07:51] hmmmm, libelf I think [07:52] The-Croupier, yes, having an "ar" binary in /usr/local , since it comes from binutils [07:52] I installed libelf in order to build the user-land tool to get performance counters stats with the newer kernels [07:52] guess it put that here [07:52] let's rm [07:53] you compiled binutils yourself? [07:53] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-106-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:53] thrice`: i see.. ;) still learning ;) thanks [07:54] well, binutils is a key part of the toolchain, so having that in /usr/local is kind of scary :) [07:54] The-Croupier: no, not binutils, probably libelf [07:54] Action: Camarade_Tux tries to find a link [07:54] actually there's no real upstream for that, you just end up finding tarballs... [07:54] question: i dont understand what is the purpose of having slocate and locate do basicaly the same thing? [07:55] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [07:55] its only slocate [07:55] ls -l $(which locate) [07:55] slackytude: i can type both...and they both work ;) [07:56] secure locate [07:56] aka slow locate [07:56] The-Croupier, ls -l $(which locate) [07:56] just checked libelf here and it doesn't create any thing in bin [07:56] slackytude: i understand... it points to the same thing... but why have both? [07:58] they have different permissions. [07:58] I guess that happend when slack switched from locate to secure locate. the call to locate is still in, so apps and users dont have to change [07:58] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:59] what does s mean in a permission slot? [07:59] -rwxr-sr-x 1 root slocate [07:59] WildWizard: timestamps definitely say it was because of libelf/elfutils [08:00] (I almost never install without a package) [08:00] mrselfpwn, setgid [08:00] mrselfpwn, like setuid [08:01] ah [08:02] chopp (n=chopp@d75-158-1-81.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] mrselfpwn, what do you mean they have different perms? [08:03] its just a symlink [08:03] yeah...thats what i thought too :( [08:03] like saying some shortcut has a diff perm from the actual pkg :(.... [08:04] Action: The-Croupier maybe is missing something [08:04] well, that was my question about the s. [08:04] i didn't understand what was going on. [08:05] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.94) joined ##slackware. [08:06] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [08:07] so a shortcut can't have a different permission? [08:07] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [08:11] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [08:13] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [08:16] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:17] mrselfpwn: how? since it will still run the same pkg? [08:18] 32K -rwxr-sr-x 1 root slocate 31K 2009-07-17 20:06 /usr/bin/slocate* [08:18] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2009-10-04 02:03 /usr/bin/locate -> slocate* [08:18] that not different? [08:18] mrselfpwn, no, it's just an entry in the FS that points somewhere [08:18] Its a symlink [08:18] i understand that. [08:18] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] why are the permissions different? [08:18] it has no permissions of its own [08:18] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.214.230) left irc: "Leaving" [08:19] okay [08:19] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Operation timed out [08:19] if you run locate, you are actually running slocate, with the slocate perms [08:19] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-225-152.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:19] yep ;) thats what i thought too ;) [08:20] i just realised..ive been running Oo-3.0 damn...:( [08:21] mrselfpwn, and dont call it a shortcut [08:21] and i thought i was bad for missing 3.1.0 to 3.1.1 [08:21] slackytude: no that was my bad..:( sorry [08:21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link [08:21] my appologies, i've been installing windows to run magicjack on. [08:21] Action: The-Croupier used to teaching the ecdl students ..and forgot ;) [08:21] Action: Camarade_Tux beats mrselfpwn to death [08:21] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [08:21] slackytude: i know what a symbolic_link is [08:22] slackytude: me too :p [08:22] mrselfpwn, The-Croupier, sorry [08:23] slackytude: you better be...;) ;) :) [08:23] :P [08:23] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.214.230) joined ##slackware. [08:23] tense [08:23] damn...i run salckware for like 20mins and i become one of my students...(the annoying kind) [08:23] heh [08:23] Action: The-Croupier got another question...got lots of questions... [08:24] heh [08:24] well, magicjack is getting linux support soon so i won't have to use windows. [08:24] magicjack? [08:24] aparently wicd...is not the command to run wicd in terminal...how can i find what the command is? (just wondering about other pkgs as well) [08:24] 08:23 < steiger> tense [08:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagicJack [08:25] wicd-curses [08:25] The-Croupier: ^^ [08:25] The-Croupier, something like "ls /var/log/packages/wicd* | grep bin/" will show you its binaries [08:25] but doesn't work for me, but it might be my fault [08:25] The-Croupier: or wicd :) [08:25] man wicd ^-^ [08:25] er, not ls, "cat" [08:25] grep bin/ ;) nice ;) thanks thrice` [08:26] cat /var/log/packages//wicd* | grep bin/ [08:26] double slash fail [08:26] Action: thrice` leaves [08:26] awww [08:26] sorry, still kind of jet-lagged from yesterday :D [08:27] Ive got a hangover [08:27] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [08:27] and Im going to a party tonite [08:27] so I can have a hangover tomorrow, too! [08:27] thanks thrice...looks like its ls after all ;) [08:27] Action: Camarade_Tux will dress as geek [08:27] i got a hangover..havent slept a minute since thursday [08:27] that should scare small children :) [08:28] Camarade_Tux: you dont need a to dress up for that :p [08:28] yeah, bonus for that :) [08:28] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:28] qemu is long to compile [08:29] late question: i am already updating wine, but...i forgot i had WoW installed there...i hope it doesnt get deleted right? does it ? [08:29] shouldn't [08:29] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.214.230) left irc: "Leaving" [08:30] bloody hope so.. [08:31] The-Croupier, nah [08:32] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] doofus21 (n=csujbc@viglab-13.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:32] nah what? [08:32] Nick change: doofus21 -> The_Scarier [08:33] packeteer (n=Zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: [08:33] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:33] if it gets removed...ill be bored to death in this examination... :( , i updated everything in my slackware laptop... i been checking for errors in dmesg, pkgs around..removeing installing stuff...and the last was updating wine...but i didnt think it too much :( damn... [08:34] :) [08:35] ls /var/log/packages/ says there is no wicd...:( [08:35] see, ive got my own lappy to pimp to slack 13 ... clean one, but i cannot be arsed to do it. [08:35] The-Croupier, wont get delted [08:35] jg71: post it to me..ill be happy to [08:35] im sure [08:35] slackytude: :) thanks [08:36] jg71: dont expect me to post it back though :p [08:36] im sure, again. [08:36] dammit. im so sure right now i could do it myself lol [08:37] jg71: glad i helped ;) :p [08:37] aw man, why is it so an obstacle to touch one's precious slack install for the -hopefully- better? hm [08:37] Action: Camarade_Tux kicks qemu in the nuts! [08:37] compile faster! [08:37] mystery [08:37] Camarade_Tux: wine is being a bitch as well [08:37] run forest, run! [08:37] The-Croupier: yeah, next I'll be compiling wine :D [08:38] Camarade_Tux, cant you crosscompile? [08:38] Camarade_Tux: damn man...you wanna suicide? [08:38] jg71: what do you mean? crosscompile what? [08:38] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] The-Croupier: wine32 AND wine64! [08:38] The-Croupier: but somebody is doing worse! [08:38] 11:26 leptom : I go to compile kde 4.3.2, thanks vbatts and others for the scripts [08:39] compile stuff on a faster machine for your sorry little atom frogger (i know the hurt, been using a via C7 meself for some time ..... ) [08:39] jg71: I'm not on atom right now ;) [08:39] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:39] I would be running a marathon otherwise -_- [08:39] ill never buy via cpus again. they fooked me over with the nehemiah one .... pre-ordered cos of the hw stuff (aes, rng) and what did they ship? rev 1.0a which lacked support. nice. [08:40] I would also have taken a nap :D [08:40] jg71: he :) [08:40] my update from 12.1 to 13 on this laptop worked fine. still some .new files to merge and some weird HAL messages on boot but all works [08:41] got to switch kernels again tho, coz taz is annoying m [08:41] me [08:41] slackytude, did you catch that make -j16 stunt mentioned in here? it's considerably faster when it comes to kernel compiles [08:42] make -j16 ? heh [08:42] just got a single core pentium here [08:42] Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz [08:43] jg71: The-Croupier: I compiled a kernel on an atom two days ago btw :) [08:43] slackytude: hahaha, I have a smaller one but I actually have two! [08:43] got some cheap e5200s .... cut the compile time down to a few mins from clean, from like 20-30 mins [08:43] cut compile times: compile less :D [08:43] slackytude, banias or dothan? [08:44] jg71, huh? [08:44] :) [08:44] slackytude, what does cpuid say? [08:44] cpu family : 6 [08:44] model : 13 [08:44] so many things to compile in qemu =/ [08:45] reason im asking is taht you can underclock and undervolt the banias ones to 100 mhz, the dothan based cores are kinky, 400 mhz works, anything less russian roulette [08:46] I have no clue. [08:46] nor do I care that much [08:46] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [08:46] i see. [08:46] It works fine.... [08:46] IBM thinkpad T42 [08:47] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:48] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [08:48] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:49] once I underclocked my graphic card to the point it couldn't handle my display :) [08:50] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: [08:50] the banias cores are precious. just by underclocking & undervolting i coudl expan my lappies runtime for 30 mins [08:51] lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex_makespan ^^ [08:51] "M men are each to have safe sex with N women using condoms. Each condom can be used any number of times, but the same side of one condom cannot be exposed to more than one person. Condoms can be re-used any number of times, and more than one can be used simultaneously." [08:52] wth [08:52] btw, atom processors must not be clocked lower, that gives them lower battery life and of course lower perf [08:53] sparc64, still compiling [08:54] \o/ [08:55] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.214.230) joined ##slackware. [08:55] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.214.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:56] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:03] chopp_ (i=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [09:05] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@p5DC3149B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:07] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:10] chopp_ (i=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [09:10] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC311E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:11] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3149B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:12] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [09:12] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:13] For these voip phones how much of a factor is processor power and ram? [09:14] not much I guess [09:14] like magicjack in particular [09:15] chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) joined ##slackware. [09:16] are you writing an essay on why it's magicjack is a bad idea, and need further damning evidence? [09:16] i got 12.2 and 13.0 folders in sbo..shall i delete 12.2 ..nothing wrong with that right? [09:17] i changed synched to 13.0 ages ago..;) [09:17] correct :> [09:17] thrice`: thanks [09:17] chee: no i'm deciding which computer to use for it. [09:18] mrselfpwn, interesting [09:18] question 1000*0: is there a way to see when exactly a pkg was installed? [09:18] something like an install log? [09:18] chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:19] giuppy (n=giuppy@host57-166-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:19] chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) joined ##slackware. [09:20] stupid question. sorry :( got it [09:20] The-Croupier, ls -rtl /var/log/packages [09:21] will give you list, sorted by time, descending [09:21] chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:22] Nick change: nix4me -> chopp [09:22] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-201-5.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:22] checkkd mirc homepage? [09:25] slackytude: nope...which one is that? mirc.com? [09:25] _chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] eh, wrong channel [09:26] o__O [09:26] its for #windows [09:27] oo OOOO [09:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-79-16.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Action: The-Croupier started perfoming an exorcism on slackytude :p [09:27] nah! [09:27] haha [09:27] Action: The-Croupier needs some help... this one is too strong... [09:28] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:28] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [09:28] damn...its too strong [09:28] ? [09:28] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:28] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@p5DC3149B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:28] muahaha! [09:30] Action: dive gets out the GNU/Holy water [09:32] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Action: Camarade_Tux counter-attacks with a BSD cross [09:35] cant we all just get along? [09:35] Its halloween after all [09:36] halloween is commercial -_- [09:37] what isnt? [09:38] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-244-108.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [09:39] christmas? :D [09:39] also know as "all your money are belong to us" :) [09:40] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.216.105) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.216.105) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:40] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] heretic! [09:42] or Feb 14th =) [09:42] whats that? [09:42] valentines [09:43] remember that girlfriend who dumped you because you forgot here present? :P [09:43] *her [09:43] ah true, the one I always forget [09:43] hh [09:43] i never forget valentines [09:43] forgetting birthday is worse -_- [09:43] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.216.105) joined ##slackware. [09:44] because im in love :) [09:44] slackytude: sure but a girl will complain no matter the day :D [09:44] still waiting on my cards. [09:44] been 27 yrs now :) [09:44] jonsmith1982, keep the hope up [09:45] Camarade_Tux, hrm [09:45] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-61-177.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:46] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@80-123-61-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Natenom_ (n=Natenom@xdsl-84-44-142-96.netcologne.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) joined ##slackware. [09:51] rworkman: who is Niels Horn? [09:52] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.216.105) left irc: "Leaving" [09:52] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:53] I don't do valentines day. Just a time for companies to take advantage of your wallet. [09:54] for some reason, valentine never really catched on, around here [09:54] halloween is kinda big now, tho [09:55] gothic's love it [09:55] You know that jewelery stores and such make more income at valentines then like the whole year? [09:58] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:58] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [09:59] 'caught on' 'goths' :) [09:59] uva (i=bno@114-45-232-180.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] http://hawtness.com/2009/10/31/wtf-girl-photo-from-the-new-film-harry-potter-and-the-cave-of-sex-change/ [09:59] ananke, bah! :P [10:00] you're insulting gothic style by associating it with goths :) [10:00] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] only the internet could look at that picture and complain [10:02] ananke used to be a goth. or perhaps an architect. [10:02] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:03] neither [10:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:05] http://hawtness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Garland-statue-P.jpg [10:06] that's a really weird site :p [10:06] godattach (n=Smithers@unaffiliated/godattach) joined ##slackware. [10:07] aye [10:07] kinda funny tho [10:10] man, I should move my sorry ass and do something [10:10] on the other hand, I could just take a nap [10:15] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:15] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:15] when X crashes completely on a system, and the only way to interact with it is via SSH.. the screen is black, and running init 3 doesn't help.. is it possible to restart X on this machine without restarting? [10:16] killall -s 9 X ? [10:16] have you tried running "telinit 4" again? (occasionally that kickstarts X in being back alive, that way it can be brought down neatly and restarted properly) [10:16] screen is still black [10:17] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:17] nope, neither telinit 4 or telinit 3 worked [10:18] i can't use ctrl+alt+F6 to switch over to the virtual terminal either [10:18] magic sysreq might help with that [10:18] i can however eject the cdrom :-) [10:18] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) joined ##slackware. [10:18] ctrl-alt-F1 ? [10:19] ctrl-alt-F[1-6] doesn't make any change [10:19] ctrl-alt-backspace ? [10:19] that was the first thing I tried when it happened, so no [10:19] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:19] v3gard: Alt+Print Screen+R [10:19] release keys [10:19] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:19] tried sysreq K and R ? [10:20] Ctrl+Alt+2 [10:20] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.166.162) joined ##slackware. [10:20] hi there! [10:20] sounds a good candidate for a headless system, enjoy [10:20] sounds like* [10:22] magis sysrq + k or r didn't help :( [10:22] this isn't the first time it has happened, so I know that init 0 and 6 works, but neither 3 or 4 [10:22] Alt+SysRq+REISOUB ? [10:22] v3gard: which graphic driver? [10:23] Camarade_Tux: rasing elephants always works, but I don't want to restart the system :) [10:23] s/rasing/raising/ [10:23] hammer? katana? C4? Semtex? [10:23] plastique [10:24] v3gard: between the two, have you released? [10:24] keys [10:24] Camarade_Tux: yes [10:25] v3gard: what graphics card? [10:25] the machine has a intel mobile 915 graphics controller, and I haven't made any changes to it since i installed slackware 13 [10:26] hrmm [10:26] laptop ? [10:26] i never encountered this problem in slackware 12.2, but with the new X, it happens at least once a week [10:26] mrselfpwn: yes [10:26] guess that was silly question. >> [10:27] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-106-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:27] you did an upgrade from 12.2 to 13.0? [10:27] no, clean install [10:27] and there is no xorg.conf? [10:28] iirc there was a lot of intel-related debugging in the xorg development between 12.2and 13.0 xorg versions [10:28] maybe they didn't iron out all the gremlins in time for the versions that 13 shipped [10:28] but wasn't a matter or stability [10:28] there is a xorg.conf, but I don't think it's being used due to the hal policies [10:28] yeah, though I have that chip too and it works pretty well now. [10:28] There are various versions of the intel driver in /extra,j iirc. [10:28] mv your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak [10:29] having an xorg.conf overides if i'm not mistaken. [10:29] i.e. pay xorg a visit [10:29] or /extra as adamk suggested [10:29] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:31] I will say that the default intel driver in Slackware 13.0 has worked for my i915 without any real issues. [10:31] i've been staying up with current and it's worked fine for me so far. [10:31] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "buh" [10:32] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:32] I'll try deleting the xorg.conf and restart the system then.. if it happens again, I'll have to try out the other versions of the intel driver [10:32] okay, good idea. [10:32] thanks for all your input guys [10:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [10:34] godattach (n=Smithers@unaffiliated/godattach) left irc: [10:35] greetings from northern Canada:) [10:36] greetings buddy [10:36] hiya mrselfpwn:) how are you? [10:36] greeting from Germany ^-^ [10:37] hi slackytude:) how goes it? [10:37] not too bad. [10:37] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:37] mrselfpwn: good to hear [10:38] hitest, got a hangover, all else is fine. How are you doing? [10:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:39] slackytude: I am well, ty:) I'm having a weird morning. I didn't get drunk last night, but, I set a wine glass down in my house somewhere and I can't find it this morning:) [10:39] lol [10:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) joined ##slackware. [10:39] :) [10:40] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:40] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:41] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) joined ##slackware. [10:41] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:41] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:41] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:41] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [10:42] ciao g4mm4 [10:42] void* [10:42] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.71.88) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:42] *g4tt0 [10:42] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) joined ##slackware. [10:42] ciao metro :-) [10:42] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) joined ##slackware. [10:43] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:43] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.216.105) joined ##slackware. [10:44] yo metrofox [10:44] hey Camarade_Tux, what's up mate? :) [10:46] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) joined ##slackware. [10:46] The_Scarier (n=csujbc@viglab-13.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:47] metrofox: libffi can actually call vararg functions properly on a sparc64 with 32bit libs, armel, ppc32, kfreebsd amd64! [10:47] v3gard: let me know how it turns out. [10:47] :D [10:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-244-108.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:48] Camarade_Tux: WOW! ^^ [10:48] :D [10:49] ahhhhh [10:49] I need to upgrade to gcc-4.4 [10:49] Action: Camarade_Tux se tâte [10:51] Camarade_Tux: :O why? [10:51] gcc-4.4.2 has been upgraded today on slackware-current [10:51] oh boy [10:51] there is this one dude, who crawlt a german social site [10:52] tried to sell the data and was put in jail [10:52] commited suicide there. 20years old [10:52] social site? [10:53] yeah, like facebook or myspace or stuff [10:53] ahhh, I thought socialism and this stuff O.o [10:53] heh [10:53] why did he suicide? [10:54] suicidal tendencies [10:54] ckt1g3r: yeah but why? [10:54] i dont know why [10:54] good question. It was big in the news and he could have get 2 years in prision. but I dunno why, exactly [10:55] metrofox: wine64 requires gcc-4.4 [10:56] Camarade_Tux: really? I wanna install it too [10:56] Debian-user (n=Debian-u@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [10:57] metrofox: you want wine64 or wine32 on slackware64? :D [10:58] wine64 on slackware64 obviously [10:58] Debian-user (n=Debian-u@unaffiliated/easy) left ##slackware. [10:58] can wine64 handle 32-bit MS apps? [10:58] thrice`: I don't think [10:59] metrofox, try it sometimes, it can be fun [10:59] giuppy (n=giuppy@host208-166-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:59] slackytude: what? [10:59] metrofox, thinking... [11:00] thrice`: I don't think [11:00] thrice`: not at all [11:00] I ned wine32 and wine64 [11:00] well, time to upgrade to slackware13 I think :D [11:00] ah... I meant: I don't think this handles all 32bit MS-apps :) [11:00] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:00] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:01] that seems useless to me [11:01] metrofox, I know :P [11:01] ;) [11:01] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.216.105) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] vmhobbes (n=charissa@112.201.1.212) left irc: "later." [11:02] thrice`: mingw-w64 [11:04] to runlevel 1 or not to runlevel 1 [11:05] not [11:05] plus I don't think I have anything special to upgrade [11:06] I did it while in xfce [11:06] from 12.1 to 13 [11:06] I'm on 13-rc1 [11:07] then definitely no [11:07] sup thrice` [11:07] first, rsync ;) [11:08] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host208-166-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[11:26] rsync'ing, rsync'ing [11:26] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@148.233.239.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:26] if you're at 13-rc1, why not just use slackpkg ? surely you don't need the entire mirror for a handful of packages? [11:27] I have a local rsync mirror :) [11:27] that's the one I use for slackpkg [11:27] oh, I thought you were starting an empty tree :) [11:27] no ^^ [11:28] I've already updated my slackware64 tree and I've almost updated the slackware32 one ;-) [11:28] Camarade_Tux: how fast? [11:29] up to 800KB/s [11:29] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] well, rather up to 700KB/s [11:30] cool, the mirror has gcc-4.4.2 :) [11:30] anything bad I should expect from that gcc? [11:30] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.91.5) joined ##slackware. [11:31] nah, it's harmless :) [11:32] worst case, a few packages don't compile, and you downgrade; it can't really affect your overall system [11:32] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.134.247) joined ##slackware. [11:33] I was wondering if there was something special to test ;-) [11:33] thrice`: are you using gcc-4.4.2? [11:33] Camarade_Tux: what mirror you use for downloading? [11:33] well, I've been gone for about a week, but 4.4.1, yes [11:34] slackware.no [11:34] thrice`: is it good? Have you met problems? [11:34] compiling some packages [11:34] cityOfLights (n=cityOfLi@bzq-84-109-33-134.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] hi all [11:34] *package [11:34] bah, I never know: update, then upgrade-all, install-new, right? [11:34] I am teaching kids programing. they will get a linux netbook [11:34] so far, only 1 program that wouln't compile, but it was an older version of the software, where the issue was fixed by trying the latest [11:35] how can I demonstrate their ability to change the OS as they can't do in a windows pc? [11:35] martinus (n=martinus@117.103.52.217) joined ##slackware. [11:35] change as in desktop or change as in different o/s's [11:35] cityOfLights: how old the kids? and you mean dual-boot or install another OS? [11:35] thrice`: mmm... I'm upgrading it too [11:36] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [11:36] Camarade_Tux: they only got linux, they are 10-11 [11:36] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.29.55) joined ##slackware. [11:36] what does seamonkey-solibs have already? [11:36] Camarade_Tux: i'd install-new before upgrade, in the general case [11:37] rg3: that's what I actually typed in the console :D [11:38] oh right, "These libraries are used in programs like RPM and gxine," [11:38] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.23.12) left irc: "Leaving." [11:38] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.25.79) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:39] cityOfLights: oh, you mean hack the OS? [11:39] ah right, I have to fix something first with slackpkg [11:40] Camarade_Tux: well, kind of [11:40] I mean even editing a conf file will do the trick [11:42] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:43] hmmm, a good example [11:43] I want them to understand that open source means they can take part in the software they run [11:43] thus they will want to learn how to write code... [11:45] I think perhaps that is a largely simplistic view, especially in a time and age where kids seem to be bombarded with 'instant gratification' all around. (But alas, perhaps I am a cynical old bastard) [11:46] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:46] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.29.55) left irc: "Leaving" [11:46] I'm wondering if plasmoids could be a good idea, they're probably easy enough to code and have nice eye-candy [11:46] Action: Camarade_Tux hates debian [11:48] maybe multi desktops [11:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:52] so I guess I'll stick to /, /tmp and /var/log [11:53] I'm so sick of these random X freezes [11:53] I never had them in 12.2 [11:53] what do the logs say when things freeze? [11:54] and I guess /usr/local/ is overkill for a desktop. [11:55] definitely :D [11:55] I'd say the same about /tmp and /var/log, but what do I know :D [11:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:55] thrice`: I like /tmp with noexec [11:55] 899M /usr/local [11:55] and I have virtual disk iamges there [11:55] (in /usr/local/share) [11:56] thumbs, why not just mount it as a tmpfs? :) [11:56] thrice`: good point [11:57] thrice`: but I'll have the option. So I guess I'll make a 15 GB /tmp [11:58] WHAT? [11:58] or you compiling OOo or something? [11:58] my / is 16GB with /tmp on it [11:58] mysql and innodb [11:58] when doing big queries, I can eat 8 GB in a jiffy. [11:58] ah, ok [11:59] can't they use another place btw? [11:59] anyone know which package will sync with ipod touch? [11:59] they can, but the file system being flexible, in a separate partition, is handy [12:02] alisonken1home: rm -rf and a hammer :D [12:02] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-186.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Action: Camarade_Tux hates apple [12:02] Camarade_Tux: :) this is for the significant other, btw [12:02] and yes, she's a _very_ significant other [12:02] especially since I've been working on trying to get her off MS [12:03] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] alisonken1home: I think there's a gpod or something like that [12:03] alisonken1home: libgpod [12:04] and front end? [12:04] amarok [12:04] http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods [12:07] gtkpod requires libgnomecanvas - which has a bunch of dependencies last I checked [12:07] and I'm on stock slackware64 13.0 [12:07] That's just referring to libgpod. [12:08] Since gtkpod uses libgopd. [12:10] martinus (n=martinus@117.103.52.217) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:12] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:12] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) joined ##slackware. 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[12:30] Action: jg71 hands mihaylov a red shirt [12:31] khider (n=khider@dsl-67-204-12-142.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] i am familiar with a programming language called c , i can help with something, for now [12:34] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [12:34] Hello all, I installed openoffice on my laptop, but for some reason can no longer invoke it. I get "command not found", which is odd because I could invoke it before. Any ideas why? [12:35] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:35] from where did you install openoffice? [12:36] thrice`: Slackbuilds [12:36] ok, and /usr/bin/soffice or whatever definitely exists? [12:36] yep [12:36] no clue what happened between used-to-work and no-longer-works ? [12:37] thrice`: Oh, for Fug's sake? Is that it? [12:37] I used ooffice [12:37] not soffice [12:37] it should be soffice -calc, -writer, etc [12:38] I used oowriter [12:38] cat /var/log/packages/openoffice* | grep bin/ :) [12:38] Okay, thanks [12:38] fwiw, I am pretty certain it has NEVER been ooffice on slackbuilds [12:38] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138142128.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:39] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:39] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138142128.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:39] thrice`: Completely different command from other Linux OS [12:39] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138142128.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:39] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:39] eg, gentoo? [12:39] thrice`: Yep [12:39] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:39] :) [12:39] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [12:40] thrice`: I am trying to learn how to use Slackware which is a bit more involved than other Linux distros. I have yet to learn how to build from source [12:40] Slackbuilds are cool though [12:40] That is how you should build from source. :) [12:41] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [12:42] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3149B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [12:42] i for one hate directions [12:43] which i suppose is why my eyes, nose, and through are burning.... [12:43] *throat [12:47] you really should read the manual for your hello kitty pepper spray [12:49] nah, bathroom got moldy, so i hit it with ~40% Clorox... [12:49] after 10 minutes i had trouble breathing.... [12:49] still burns too [12:51] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:51] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:51] khider: sbopkg - unless you want to create your own slackbuilds - is pretty good [12:52] Kamel (n=1@99-205-243-255.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:54] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:54] do you use slackbuild ? [12:55] alisonken1home: I follow the slackbuilds site, however, programs like mixxx has no slackbuilds [12:56] So I will have to figure out how to do that [12:56] khider: there are some limitations to slackbuilds :) [12:56] or slackbuilds.org I should say [12:56] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-186.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:56] Another issue is Fluxbox, it seems to be organized differently then Gentoo [12:57] I want to customize the menu options, add things like openoffice but cannot find the instructions [12:58] Nick change: juan--d-1-b -> juan--d-_-b [12:58] engage spook drunken cant see what people are typing troll mode [12:59] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.91.5) left irc: "Leaving" [13:00] khider: read ~/.fluxbox/menu [13:00] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:00] khider: fluxbox and gentoo are not comparable, under ANY circumstances [13:01] khider, gentoo probably just generates / installs a slightly different menu [13:01] spook: I did not compare them, I said fluxbox seems to be run differently on Gentoo [13:01] i've just installed slackware , have some exp, on ubuntu and suse, [13:01] no what you asaid wahs [13:02] 00:56 < khider> Another issue is Fluxbox, it seems to be organized differently then Gentoo [13:02] mihaylov: good, whats your [rpnelms [13:02] insert "on" spock [13:02] "[rpnelms" ? [13:02] khider: thats what sed is for. s/find/replacefirst instances [13:03] mihaylov: you heard me. [13:03] i have no idea [13:03] mihaylov: porblem' [13:03] mihaylov, ignore him :) welcome [13:04] tnx [13:04] spock: I get 'permission denied' when I invoke ~/.fluxbox/menu [13:05] cityOfLights (n=cityOfLi@bzq-84-109-33-134.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] khider, are you running fluxbox as a user, or are you logged in as root ? [13:05] thrice`: Exactly, I tried both [13:05] thrice`: Same response [13:05] khider: if you try to RUN it you will obviously get permission denied [13:05] if you EDIT it [13:05] you'll see my answer is valid. and that you fail. [13:05] khider, ok, if you are logged in as the user (the right way), make sure you are not root in the terminal you run the "~/.fluxbox/menu" from [13:06] YOU DONT RUN ~/.fluxbox/meni [13:06] YOPU NPTJ FAIL [13:06] thrice`: Spook is right, I did try to invoke it like a command [13:06] vim !!! [13:06] thrice`: i'm sorr but sdurnk s[ook is smart e than you [13:06] for the love of god use vim!! [13:07] vi > vim [13:07] ok, I guess I wouldn't have expected a "command not found" response from that [13:07] would have * [13:07] thrice` < spook [13:07] obviously [13:07] This is productive, I got both Openoffice AND fluxbox working for me, thanks thrice` and spook (but I wish I could call you Spock) [13:08] khider: thrice didnt help he doesnt sdsne tyoyu thanks [13:08] ~_o [13:08] sure thing :) enjoy [13:09] Action: spook shakes fist at noob [13:09] s [13:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:10] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:10] hello! [13:11] unixfool: hi, been trying to get your permission to pm you fgor ages. [13:11] and here i am, drunk, and tyou;re active. thats really invonceient [13:11] what the hell is wrong my net ? i have 2gb internet and FF is takes like 10 min to open a page ? [13:11] haha [13:11] next time, just pm me (i tend to be AFK a lot) [13:12] unixfool: ok! but i think i can coherent my point [13:12] some type of emergency? [13:12] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-47-246-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.19.76) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Nick change: W|GGL|T_ -> W|GGL|T [13:15] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-148-188.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] tooly (n=tooly@e178156212.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [13:16] unixfool: i pm'd you [13:17] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [13:17] is that one of the signs? [13:17] chee: bat signal? [13:17] i see it! [13:18] Action: spook disappaers [13:18] oh dear, it's hallowe'en [13:18] i feel boring [13:18] maybe i should do this coding in a mask. [13:18] up until a few minutes ago i was wearing my ninka mask [13:18] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.19.76) left irc: Client Quit [13:18] i had been wearing it for like 8 hours straight at a party [13:19] which explains why ui'm drunk. cider + frangelico [13:19] again? [13:19] jg71: again? you mean again again again again again etc [13:20] ;) [13:20] jg71: its only news if i'm NOT drunk [13:20] lol aw spook [13:20] hey i think i'll get drunk too :D [13:20] you're fun when you're drunk [13:20] never be sober again [13:20] chee: dont make me hate you. [13:20] \o\ [13:20] Action: chee cowers [13:21] but no, i don't like beeing drunk [13:21] \o\ [13:21] Forcast for #slackware, windy with an overcast and high chance of trolling in the evening. [13:21] /o/ [13:21] agentc0re: .... [13:21] maybe i'll just drink a little [13:21] i can smell fire [13:21] real forcast for #slackware, redirected to ##slackware [13:21] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:22] deco: you know it be true. :P [13:24] chee: you smell frozen eeeeeel attack [13:24] Action: spook stabs chee with a frozen eel [13:24] agentc0re: :P [13:24] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.66.25) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:24] hmmm lets start a weave!!! [13:24] \o\ \o\ [13:25] /o/ /o/ [13:25] i am eating cold 2 day old pizza and ITS FANTASTIC [13:25] \o\ \o\ [13:25] deco: LETS START A BAN [13:25] spook: yay!!!! [13:25] starting.... now! [13:26] Action: thrice` sets +kline spook* [13:26] thrice`: you wish [13:27] I dream about it at night [13:27] thrice`: according to /wii you arent an oper so good luck doing that [13:27] [I was just joking] [13:28] thrice`: i know, but i called you on it [13:28] on what? [13:28] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5457c96e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:28] your mum. [13:28] :o [13:29] yeah i went there. [13:29] i challenge someone with a problem, with slackware, bet i can fix it drunk [13:30] Kamel (n=1@99-205-243-255.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-106-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:33] no challengers? [13:33] spook: here her [13:33] U2 (i=U2@119.154.45.136) joined ##slackware. [13:33] deco: bring it on [13:34] spook: how to disable my touchpads tapclick in slackware 12.2 ? i forgot what to add to xorg.conf [13:34] Action: chee dies [13:34] 12.2, ooooh, you challenge me good. [13:34] bye [13:34] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [13:35] spook: now answer!!! [13:35] deco: are you using synaptics? [13:35] spook: are you using google? [13:35] spook: i belive it's an alpin what ever it's called [13:35] Option "tapbutton1" "0" I think [13:35] deco: you arent asnwering [13:35] thrice`: SHHHHHH [13:35] spook: no [13:36] deco: then what he said [13:36] spook: on my acer 10.1" netbook, how can i set the fn f6(switch viewing ports) to switch alternate from onboard screen, both vga output and onboard, just vga? [13:36] basically it will be in the documentation for whatever input driver you are using [13:37] agentc0re: should be a built in thing [13:37] if not it will be a desktop environment thing [13:37] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] spook: thrice` k gonna restart x [13:38] deco: i win [13:39] does anyone here use Fluxbox? [13:39] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:39] spook: nope you failed it didn't work [13:39] chee: i used to [13:39] KDE [13:39] deco: blame thrice` [13:39] deco: he invalidated the bet [13:39] spook: true [13:40] spook: have you got good advice for a nice Style that looks cute on a 1024*768 resolution? [13:40] all the nice styles seem to be expecting me to be using the moon as my desktop monitor [13:40] chee: results [13:41] cheeeeeeeeee!!!!! [13:41] Action: chee eeeee! [13:42] spook, i have a non-slack question here [13:42] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [13:42] i started cooking a sauce for pasta, without noticing that I had no pasta [13:42] I do however have cous-cous [13:43] do you think I could make a pasta sauce work with Cous-cous? [13:43] which one is cous cous again? [13:43] it's the wee yellow balls [13:43] hey, i think i just thought of a solution! [13:43] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.137.123) joined ##slackware. [13:43] if i add some creme freche at the end, everything will be alright [13:44] U2 (i=U2@119.154.45.136) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:44] thanks, spook [13:45] yeah that will work with cous wous [13:45] wtf is creme frenche [13:45] deco, you could try: " Option "MaxTapTime" "0" [13:45] thrice`: k let me try [13:45] which will give it a 0ms time to detect a tap [13:45] USE NEGATIVE [13:47] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [13:47] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:47] thrice`: nope :/ [13:48] you're adding it to the appropriate section, right? (eg, your touchpad, and not mouse or keyboard) [13:48] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. 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[14:44] cool, got radeon kms working [14:45] not seeing much of a speedup though [14:45] glxgears 390 fps vs. 410 [14:45] won't improve 3D [14:45] but better console support, faster X startup, cleaner code overall [14:45] ok [14:46] x startup is much faster [14:46] and switching to console is instant [14:46] sQuEE (n=narya@host236.201-252-58.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [14:47] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] acer screwed me with this cheapie laptop though (emachines e625) [14:47] need kernel < 2.6.29 for fglrx [14:47] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] if I did a /away how to unset that? [14:48] need kernel > 2.6.30 for ath1c network card [14:48] coz Im not away any longer [14:48] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] so i'm stuck with the free radeon driver [14:49] and apps like google earth are not happy [14:50] google earth should run nearly flawlessly with the open source driver. [14:50] egregor (n=pas@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [14:50] Well, maybe only on r100-r500. [14:50] you bought an acer and expected it to be non-cheap? [14:50] Im using the free radeon driver as well and all is fine [14:50] have a r600 [14:51] ge pegs the cpu at 100 and i get maybe 1fps [14:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:52] no, i knew it would be cheap, i just hoped that ati wouldn't move a brand new computer's video card to the "legacy" support structure [14:52] slackytude: you just type /away again to unset your away status. [14:53] fire|bird, [14:53] Already marked away: on [14:53] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:53] fire|bird, does not work [14:53] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:53] Hmm [14:53] its /back [14:53] \o/ [14:53] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] haha, ok. :) [14:54] hi, do you know program which can covert bmp to octave img format [14:54] too easy ^-^ [14:54] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.71.88) joined ##slackware. [15:00] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:00] there are kids in my street singing their little songs [15:00] knocking on the doors [15:00] expecting sweets [15:00] i wish i had a rifle [15:00] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] scare them! [15:00] i'm not going near them [15:01] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [15:01] i'm hiding in my dark house like a maniac.. [15:01] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:01] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [15:02] sensibl [15:02] e [15:02] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:02] suid0 (n=suid0@c951af9f.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:03] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Client Quit [15:03] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [15:04] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [15:10] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [15:13] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:18] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] hmm noone here [15:21] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl136-250.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:21] nope, they all left [15:21] yeah, nobody here [15:21] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:21] Has anyone managed to bring back the ctrl-alt-backspace feature in X11? Not heard about how it's done, but actually *DONE* it? If yes, please tell me how. [15:22] do you know where c headers are stored? [15:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] ctrl-alt-bs doesnt work? [15:23] slackytude in Xorg that Slack 13 ships, no [15:23] Action: slackytude is scared to try [15:23] why? [15:23] oh, you have open applications [15:24] no want to kill X [15:24] aye [15:24] try it when you are safe [15:24] it's been disabled by the Xorg community, i think [15:24] a huuuuge blow [15:24] slackytude, ctr+alt+shift del [15:25] or bs [15:25] try kill kdm in console ? [15:25] tmkd, so, need shift now as well? [15:25] I don't have kdm, not gdm, no xdm enabled [15:25] omg [15:25] so what [15:25] I will try ctrl-alt-shift del/backspace, If I droped, it means it worked :P [15:26] nop [15:26] tux_boy (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [15:26] e [15:26] how old are you ? [15:26] over 9000 :P [15:26] hehe just kidding [15:26] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:27] yeah, it was weird using del inside X, but it was weird disabking c-a-bs in the first place [15:27] slackytude, pherhaps, i use id long ago, but i dont want try now [15:27] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) joined ##slackware. [15:27] mihaylov, or type telinit 3 [15:27] ny3aH (n=geg@95.71.59.66) joined ##slackware. [15:28] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [15:28] ) [15:28] ny3aH (n=geg@95.71.59.66) left irc: Client Quit [15:30] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [15:31] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138142128.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [15:31] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5457c96e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:31] nick4 try /etc/init.d/gdm restart [15:32] or "gdm restart" [15:32] seriously... [15:32] from console again [15:32] you're not from around here are you? [15:32] you need console for everything [15:34] mihaylov, gdm is not for mouse? [15:35] no. [15:35] go to run application [15:36] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.82) joined ##slackware. [15:36] how to use gdm with mouse ? [15:37] huh? [15:37] you mean gpm? [15:39] mihaylov: fyi, slackware's initscripts are in /etc/rc.d [15:40] whatever, you got the point didn't you [15:40] yes sorry about that [15:40] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.75.205) joined ##slackware. [15:40] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@71.150.249.159) joined ##slackware. [15:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] i have 1gb ethernet , any idea why my browser is slow ? [15:41] good lord. [15:43] you're browsing from a gigabit pipe?? [15:44] your browser inlet vavlves are clogged, mihaylov [15:44] i mean 1mbit [15:45] try some bit injector cleaner [15:46] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.66.25) joined ##slackware. [15:47] how can I tell Xorg not to blank (and then turn off) the screen? [15:47] mihaylov it might be the ISP [15:48] is it your browser itself thats slow or the data transfer in general? [15:49] only my browser is slow [15:49] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] s1gma (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-195.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] i have 2 diffrent browsers and they are slow [15:50] turn off plugins, java, flash, bling [15:52] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.134.247) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:52] by [15:52] s1gma (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-195.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:53] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] pthreat (i=ba121059@gateway/web/freenode/x-lugizebifcgayhns) joined ##slackware. [15:53] antiwire: you here [15:55] is there a way to create rar archives without 32bit libs? [15:56] IJLIV (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-195.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] hiptobecubic: I guess that would depend on the rar application [15:56] hiptobecubic: The question would be, Is there a 64 bits rar version :) [15:57] IJLIV (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-195.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] hiptobecubic: http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-x64-3.9.0.tar.gz [15:57] IJLIV (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-195.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] hiptobecubic: there you go [15:58] ah. sure. thanks [15:58] nick4: in Section "ServerFlags" ... use Options "blank time" "standby time" "suspend time" and "off time" [15:59] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [15:59] pthreat, ah. it's a 'trial'. oh well [16:00] hiptobecubic: check it out, maybe there's a free full version around, although rar is a private archiving compression algorithm :/ [16:00] Mr-S^b32 (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:01] the issues revolving around rar and being non free are why many dont use it [16:01] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [16:01] thank you jar_corefile [16:01] andarius: yep [16:01] pantherlord 0003:0E8F:0003.0005: input,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [GreenAsia Inc. USB Joystick ] on usb-0000:00:02.0-6/input0 [16:02] Already modprobe'd hid-gaff [16:02] nick4: np [16:02] Im wonder what I'm I missing [16:02] ls /dev/js* ls: cannot access /dev/js*: No such file or directory [16:03] pthreat: I told you last night that you might be better off just using the /dev/input/eventX for the device [16:03] klaasvakie (n=johann@vc-41-31-53-192.umts.vodacom.co.za) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:03] antiwire: sorry I was too drunk and pissed because of the small incident [16:03] IJLIV (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-195.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [16:03] hid devices by default go to /dev/input if i recall [16:03] IJLIV (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-195.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] right about the time you called us all fucks [16:03] ... [16:04] I was pissed, sorry [16:04] pthreat: shame on you [16:04] :( [16:04] pthreat: jesus is mad at you know... [16:05] now* [16:05] A letter of apology is required now, to all 312 users in this channel. :) [16:05] hand written [16:05] well I guess getting the cops twice knocking at my door and trying to slash my neighbour with my katana is tough [16:05] yes yes!! [16:05] this is serious [16:05] phrag: oh what happened ? [16:05] tab fail [16:05] yeah [16:05] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl136-250.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [16:05] grrr [16:05] pthreat: what happened ? [16:05] nothing we gathered with the guys from my band and we were just talking [16:05] i need help with libjpeg, anyone use it? [16:06] and I have this neighbour of mine [16:06] well he called the cops straight away [16:06] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:06] I received the cops and him with my katana [16:06] cool story bro.... [16:06] anyways ... [16:06] we went inside again [16:07] Nick change: IJLIV -> Sigma_Virus [16:07] then I threatened the son of a bitch about slashing him in two [16:07] you know you're worse when you're sober, it would seem. [16:07] and he called the cops again and .. oh well [16:07] nothing they just annoyed me [16:07] asked for some id blah blah blah [16:07] what /etc/kde/kdm/Xreset* stands for ? [16:07] Nick change: Sigma_Virus -> IJLIV [16:07] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) joined ##slackware. [16:07] we kept drinking some beers then we all went to sleep [16:08] but i have to get out of here this guy is unbearable [16:08] pthreat: yeah move or something ... [16:08] for my own sake [16:08] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) left irc: [16:08] I have to, or I'll end up doing some crazy shit [16:09] funniest part is that we were just talking nothing else [16:09] music was vry low [16:09] s/vry/very/ [16:09] anyways past is past [16:09] That's exactly what a drunk person would say [16:10] antiwire: well we were talking really [16:10] we need more typos as proof [16:10] ah ? [16:10] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-65-63.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:10] figabo_ (n=Slacker@187.149.2.3) joined ##slackware. [16:10] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Client Quit [16:11] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: "leaving" [16:12] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:13] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [16:13] lol jg71 [16:16] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.179.1) joined ##slackware. [16:17] antiwire: Im trying to test with tail to see if i get any output [16:17] tail -f /dev/input/event5 [16:17] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:18] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:18] That's not going to do anythin [16:18] g [16:19] alright [16:19] what are you trying to do? [16:19] I'm trying to see if it even works [16:19] if the joypad responds [16:19] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.71.88) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:19] It's just a joystick with 2 available modes USB and PS2 [16:19] pthreat: shouldn't that be /dev/input/jsX ? [16:19] afaik PS2 should work with hid-gaff [16:19] does xev show anything when you press the buttons on the pad? [16:19] pthreat: you're playing with your joystick? [16:20] ls /dev/input/js* ls: cannot access /dev/input/js*: No such file or directory [16:20] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "eep" [16:20] IJLIV: old joke [16:20] Action: IJLIV shrugs [16:20] IJLIV: and I wish I'd have more than one [16:20] still worth it IMO [16:20] pthreat: if you want to test it, then try 'od -x /dev/input/eventX' :) [16:20] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [16:20] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:20] alright lets check it [16:20] then press random buttons [16:21] nothing >:( [16:21] maybe it's not event5 [16:21] I give up [16:23] I thought it tells what device name it uses once you plug it in... unless of course, that device is not supported by your kernel [16:23] First you need to figure out the correct input event for that device. Second, you need to configure xorg.conf with a section for the device if xorg isn't auto detecting it. Then, you can try using xev to check for button presses. [16:24] pthreat (i=ba121059@gateway/web/freenode/x-lugizebifcgayhns) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [16:24] why xorg.conf? I thought he said it's a joypad [16:24] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] pthreat (i=ba121059@gateway/web/freenode/x-vgkdkgxbdqcoxjsr) joined ##slackware. [16:25] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.66.25) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:25] as I was saying, xev shows nothing [16:27] first, was the joypad detected correctly? what do you see in dmesg when you plug it in? [16:28] mario__ (n=mario@93-43-171-190.ip92.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [16:28] mako-sama, when i write to ld.so.config , it works immediately or i should i restart system? [16:28] ciao a tutti [16:28] mario__: hold on [16:28] pantherlord 0003:0E8F:0003.0006: input,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [GreenAsia Inc. USB Joystick ] on usb-0000:00:02.0-6/input0 [16:28] mean mako-sama [16:28] i was joking [16:28] .) [16:29] mario__ (n=mario@93-43-171-190.ip92.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Client Quit [16:29] matt_ (n=matt@142.162.19.126) joined ##slackware. [16:31] mako-sama: so it does detects it [16:31] a [16:32] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:32] pthreat: check /dev/input/by-id and tell me if anything in there resembles what you see in dmesg [16:32] mako-sama: alright [16:32] mako-sama: sb-Genius_4D_Scroll_Mouse-event-mouse usb-Genius_Multimedia_Keyboard-event-kbd usb-Genius_4D_Scroll_Mouse-mouse usb-GreenAsia_Inc._USB_Joystick-event-joystick [16:33] usb-GreenAsia_Inc._USB_Joystick-event-joystick [16:33] yes.. it is there. that's a symlink. it should point you to the device name you should be using [16:33] alright [16:33] where does it point to? [16:34] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2009-10-30 19:17 /dev/input/by-id/usb-GreenAsia_Inc._USB_Joystick-event-joystick -> ../event5 [16:34] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:36] nice... and you still don't see anything when you do 'od -x /dev/input/event5' and press buttons on your joypad [16:36] Camarade_Tux, you hou :p [16:37] fredoslack: he is gone :P [16:37] number_three (n=chatzill@adsl-76-252-9-17.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] deco, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [16:37] :) [16:37] fredoslack: :) [16:37] deco, je vais faire des photos [16:37] d'halloween [16:37] fredoslack: \o/ [16:38] y0 fredoslack [16:38] fredoslack: :) [16:38] slacky iooooo [16:38] )à [16:38] =) [16:38] err, going soon :) [16:38] pthreat (i=ba121059@gateway/web/freenode/x-vgkdkgxbdqcoxjsr) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [16:38] deco, j'ai un Nikon D40x [16:38] fredoslack: nice :P [16:38] deco, que je ne maitrise pas [16:39] heh [16:39] <3 mon canon XTi :) [16:39] c'est halloweenn chez vous ? [16:39] chez tout le monde, non? [16:40] bon [16:40] je vous laisse [16:40] mode photos [16:40] mode citrouille [16:40] hu hu [16:41] bye everybody [16:41] à plus tard [16:41] :) [16:41] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:41] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-119.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] tomi3074 (n=tomi3074@aane209.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[16:58] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] /c [16:59] mihaylov: do not use KDE's network settings program [17:00] all: hi [17:01] boo emacs [17:01] what to use to configure network ? [17:01] alienBOB [17:01] mihaylov: netconfig [17:02] ifconfig [17:02] mihaylov, rc.inet.conf usually. or wicd (in /extra) [17:02] mihaylov: use vi [17:03] i dont suggest wicd [17:03] high dependencies list [17:04] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-150-109-78.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:04] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009102815]" [17:04] i've issued netconfig, it automatically alters rc.inet.conf [17:05] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:05] wicd has 0 deps [17:05] outside of slackware [17:05] mihaylov: yes it works fine, but only for eth0 [17:06] evening gents, anyone had problems with ff finding libxul on -current? locate says it's there, but firefox-bin is blind... [17:06] yesyes, you're going to have to be a little more specific :( which arch? [17:06] 32 [17:06] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.198.143) joined ##slackware. [17:06] does FF run ? [17:07] 'firefox' just sits there... firefox-bin says no xul... [17:07] no, nothing at all [17:07] you should be running the wrapper in /usr/bin/firefox [17:08] the binary includes the xulrunner backend [17:08] yeah... i tried that.. and it just hung there... so i tried firefox-bin [17:08] ah i see [17:10] heh, thrice` sorted it [17:10] it was just dwm being odd [17:10] ah, ok [17:10] should have known... [17:10] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-92-126.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [17:10] thanks for your help nevertheless [17:10] sure :) [17:13] thrice` i dont use slackware so to me it has a very large dependencies list ;) [17:13] pygtk is about it [17:15] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:15] dbus [17:15] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:15] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.252) joined ##slackware. [17:15] tomi3074 (n=tomi3074@aane209.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [17:16] dbus-glib, dbus-python to name a few i certainly dont use ;) [17:16] a system without dbus is pretty retarded, but whatever floats your boat [17:16] i can do anything i need [17:17] let me guess ur a hal fan too [17:17] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:18] to me putting trust into dbus is ignoring the fact u have a filesystem ;) [17:18] ..... [17:18] thus removing the user factor [17:19] dbus is just for passing messages along [17:19] it doesnt do anything besides that [17:19] which i do with files . . . [17:19] there called temp files [17:19] I bow to your superior knowledge [17:19] meh [17:20] can u name a reason for a message? ;) [17:21] that a usb stick has been inserted [17:21] udev [17:21] !?!?! [17:22] udev just detects it, dbus gets the message and passes it along [17:22] but udev can be told to carry out an action [17:22] but Im sure you'll do that with a temp file [17:22] such as tell dbus to do something or run a command or whatever [17:23] i mean slackware is proud of its text file configs [17:23] so figured dbus would be not the style [17:23] CcSsNET, do you have any clue what dbus does? or, just some ricer who thinks he's leet for -dbus in make.conf ? [17:23] thrice not sure what u mean for make.conf [17:23] thinkpad# cat /var/log/packages/dbus-{glib,python}* | grep UNCOMPRESSED [17:23] UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE: 650K [17:23] UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE: 690K [17:23] but i dont use slackware [17:23] then don't make recommendations to other slackware users, like "wicd has too many deps" [17:24] heh [17:24] CcSsNET: so why are you in this conversation then? [17:24] CcSsNET, wtf are you spousing your nonsense in here then [17:24] sorry i guess yall dont care how stuff works [17:24] What distrodo you use then, CcSsNET? [17:24] sourcemage [17:24] Juck, that kid's playground [17:25] as if disliking udev would imply not wanting to know how stuff works [17:25] right, and slackware is not a playground? is there even checksums in use by most of yall? [17:25] The distro whose builders can't use normal sentences? [17:25] who said they dislike udev? [17:26] I dont use udev, I use temp files. yeah, you know how stuff works allright [17:26] noone, but writing udev rules for every device you own is very wasteful [17:26] gimme a break [17:26] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Connection timed out [17:26] bah, s/udev/dbus [17:26] O.o [17:27] thrice' since when would i be doing that? [17:27] gaze what udevrnudev:rnUdev creates and removes device nodes in /dev, based on events the kernel sendsrnout on device discovery or removal [17:27] sooo yea . . . [17:29] you know its halloween when zombies invade the channel [17:29] woot [17:29] CcSsNET, when you want to automate mounting [17:29] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-24-245-106.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [17:29] nah i invade often usually less abrasive [17:30] thrice' theres other projects available for this ^ [17:30] hi all [17:30] no dbus needed [17:30] CcSsNET, like? [17:30] 1 sec [17:30] kde4 in 13.0 is very slow [17:31] 12.0 is faster [17:31] ? [17:31] well first of all u can do it manually with udev event but anyway enough for bash scripts such as dynusb [17:31] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-65-63.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:32] theres c coded projects also, geting small list brb [17:32] don't bother [17:32] Apparently there's some confusion here. [17:32] yes, i am very confused. but thats normal ;) [17:32] Yes. :) [17:33] theres submount [17:33] vold [17:33] dynusb [17:33] 2 name 3 [17:33] -ENOGIVEASHIT [17:33] pi31415_ (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] but yea im just a noob, i dont research ill leave that to yall [17:34] Action: CcSsNET afk [17:34] Happy keyboard. [17:34] rworkman: que pasa, mi amigo? [17:34] rworkman: haha [17:35] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-007.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] thumbs: muy bien; ¿y usted? [17:35] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [17:35] muy bien, gracias [17:36] de nada :) [17:36] also, source mage appears to get the award for "most retarded build system ever" : http://dbg.download.sourcemage.org/grimoire/codex/stable/devel/git/ [17:36] I'm about to install 13.0 on this server. [17:36] Action: thumbs is excited. [17:37] hey thumbs, how's it going? [17:37] Cool [17:37] mara (n=mara@151.81.167.175) joined ##slackware. [17:37] fire|bird: better, my data is all safe. I salvaged 930 GB [17:37] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [17:37] thumbs: that's a relief. [17:37] and it's now mirrored [17:37] mihaylov (n=mihaylov@95-42-59-193.btc-net.bg) left irc: Client Quit [17:37] RAID++ [17:38] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-10-231.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:38] thumbs, what happended [17:38] slackytude: my old PATA Seagate drive starting giving out bad sectors. [17:38] ah, great stuff [17:38] slackytude: I had 3 of them. [17:39] I lost 5 mp3 files overall. Not so bad. [17:39] thats great [17:39] _chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:39] hi fire|bird [17:39] hey thrice`, how are you? [17:39] guess you need to buy them again, eh? [17:39] _chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) joined ##slackware. [17:39] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:39] slackytude: rips from my own cds. [17:40] ah [17:40] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware. [17:40] fire|bird, great, finally rested up; yourself? [17:40] slackytude: I was about to re-rip them to aac, anyway [17:40] aac is nice [17:40] way superior to mp3, even at 320kbit. [17:40] thrice`: doing great, thanks. I'm just taking a break from messing with Seamonkey 2. :P Working on something else atm. [17:40] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: No route to host [17:40] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] heh, nice :) [17:41] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host170-26-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:41] can that build against xulrunner? [17:41] so I'll see soon if installing slack64 on a P3 is stupid, or not. [17:42] thumbs, it's not stupid, it's impossible [17:43] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:43] how is that supposed to work? [17:43] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] p3 != 64 bit [17:43] yes, but I was hoping to make it work, magically. [17:43] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:43] lolz [17:44] lol [17:44] ask CcSsNET , he knows how [17:44] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] :D:D [17:44] Action: fire|bird hands thumbs a magic wand and some pixie dust. :P [17:44] I think I'll put the 12.2 cd in there. [17:44] s/there/then/ [17:44] thought you were going for 13? [17:45] well, I lost my confidence, all of a sudden [17:45] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:45] meh [17:45] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@80-123-61-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:45] good job guys ... [17:45] now thumbs is down .. [17:45] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [17:46] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@80.123.52.25) joined ##slackware. [17:48] OK, I'll pop it in for fun. [17:48] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.166.162) joined ##slackware. [17:48] hi there! [17:48] metrofox: \o/! [17:49] hey deco! happy halloween [17:49] metrofox: thanks ^_^ [17:50] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:51] mara (n=mara@151.81.167.175) left irc: "leaving" [17:51] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] Mr-S^b32 (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:00] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-178.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:01] well, the installer doesn't seem to care. [18:01] of course not :) wait til the configuration part [18:01] lol [18:01] yeah. [18:02] not holding my breath, regardless. [18:02] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-24-245-106.web.vodafone.de) left irc: "Leaving" [18:03] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:07] ny3aH (n=geg@95.71.59.66) joined ##slackware. [18:07] stygian (i=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-119.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:07] ny3aH (n=geg@95.71.59.66) left irc: Client Quit [18:07] reaperIII (n=reaperII@41.122.246.156) joined ##slackware. [18:07] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] what was the line I had to add to lilo to get hibernating working? [18:09] slackytude: man lilo.conf ? [18:09] append="resume=/dev/hda3" [18:09] nvm [18:09] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] do dee do da. [18:11] KDE is taking forever to install. [18:13] thumbs: ps3 ? [18:13] deco: nah. It's a P3 tower. [18:13] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.213) left irc: "Leaving." [18:13] thumbs: oh k [18:15] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.68) joined ##slackware. [18:17] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A749F1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-85.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:20] beluga (n=ndv@62.122.105.23) joined ##slackware. [18:20] slackytude: kernel-parameters.txt in the /usr/src/linux/Documentation tree [18:20] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [18:21] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:23] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:23] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:26] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [18:27] oh, interesting. [18:27] installing lilo on the MBR of a RAID1 mirror fails. [18:28] did you follow the direections for raid readme ? [18:29] probably not [18:29] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.71) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:29] raid-extra-boot = mbr-only [18:29] boot = /dev/md0 [18:29] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74E28.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:29] or whatever it's called [18:29] if it's software raid i guess [18:30] yeah, I'm reading now. [18:30] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.115) joined ##slackware. [18:32] raid-extra-boot [18:33] mikedamon (n=mike@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [18:34] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-25-211-160.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [18:34] hi all [18:34] Action: edman007 waves [18:34] if i run hcid it says "Parsing /etc/bluetooth/main.conf failed: No such file or directory" [18:34] Action: slackytude|evil waves back [18:34] hi vdv [18:35] in man page for hcid this conf file is not mantioned [18:35] only hcid.conf [18:36] beatzz (i=beatzz@cpe-72-183-217-46.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:36] there's also "Unable to get on D-Bus" in syslog [18:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:36] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [18:36] sup all [18:37] so I have the slackware 13 dvd iso [18:37] this and that, beatzz [18:37] this and that [18:37] I open K3b and try to burn it [18:37] but it tells me unknown filesystem? [18:37] >:0! [18:37] broken iso? [18:37] have you checked the md5, yo? [18:37] negitive [18:38] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:38] check the md5, yo! [18:38] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] I downloaded this a few weeks ago man [18:38] its been on this computer here at my brothers house [18:38] maybe the bits have gone bad [18:38] I am here for a hour or 2 [18:38] fire|bird (i=chopp@ghost.xzibition.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] it might have gone off [18:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:38] did you leave it open [18:38] so I copyed it onto my laptop [18:38] fire|bird, y0, got connection issues [18:38] beatzz, just check the md5 [18:38] fire|bird, ? [18:39] optically burned data has an expiration date, like milk [18:39] checksum right? [18:39] checksum [18:39] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.68.75) joined ##slackware. [18:40] md5sum, i fink [18:40] checksum means nothing, it's a concept not an implementation. you might be thinking of md5sum [18:40] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Client Quit [18:40] I think its a media problem [18:40] because when i go to "burn image directly" [18:40] it shows I have no blank dvd in the drive [18:40] when in fact I do. [18:40] hm! [18:40] have you tried another brrner? [18:41] a different software [18:41] well, I tryed growisofs [18:41] from the cli [18:42] what happened [18:43] I tryed this [18:44] growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compact -Z /dev/dvd=slack* [18:44] i got this [18:44] No mkisofs option are permitted with =, aborting... [18:44] did you actually use slack* ? [18:44] no [18:44] #1 it is -dvd-comat and #2 no =slack* [18:44] thrice`, shouldn't you be trick or treating ? [18:45] i used full filename [18:45] hit tab it filled it in for me [18:45] u kno [18:45] can't get bluetooth work ( [18:45] bad! -dvd-compat [18:45] er -dvd-compat not compact [18:45] ok i will try -dvd-compat [18:45] brb [18:45] what's the purpose of /etc/bluetooth/main.conf file? [18:45] growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=slackware-13.0.iso -speed=2 [18:45] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:46] oh shit [18:46] jeev, my cinderella costume no longer fits :( [18:46] its doing something crazy [18:46] burning? [18:46] looks like it [18:46] do you have a burner from 1942? speed=2 has been deprecated in favor of real speededs [18:46] sweet [18:46] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: No route to host [18:47] its just what i got from google [18:47] doesn't matter THAT much. [18:47] well it also gave you dvd-compact so don't trust it [18:47] BBQ time [18:47] I <3 u guys [18:47] thanks for all the help [18:47] sure :) [18:47] thrice`, go get it altered.. they didn't make room for your breasts eh? [18:48] thrice`: the kernel is booting! [18:48] has it hit userland yet? [18:48] thrice`: not yet :) [18:48] I think it'll die at rc.S [18:49] beatzz (i=beatzz@cpe-72-183-217-46.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Java user signed off" [18:49] thrice`: actually, you're wrong. [18:49] thrice`: I'm in multi-user mode, and xfce loaded. [18:49] then you didn't install slackware64 [18:50] mancha> well it also gave you dvd-compact so don't trust it <--- lolol [18:50] thumbs, what does "file /bin/tar" say? [18:50] sixfish (n=possible@c-98-237-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] i have a 64 bit could someone assist me download slack [18:50] thrice`: doh. 32. [18:51] sixfish, http://www.slackware.com/torrents/slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.torrent [18:51] thrice`: well, I guess I got lucky when I downloaded the wrong iso! [18:51] :) [18:52] lol [18:52] thrice` thanks, would yuou know where just the cd 1 and cd 2 are? i want to get just as far as GUI [18:52] thrice` the rest i can add slowly [18:52] thrice` or you think i should stick with this [18:53] http://www.slackware.com/torrents/ :) [18:53] mm, up to you. I find the DVD easier, since 1 disk is simpler than 2, but it's up to you [18:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-007.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] personally, I keep the tree on my /home partition, and use the USB installer and point it at /home/ftp :) [18:53] thrice`: damn you. Now I have to download the 64bit iso. [18:54] lol [18:54] cyborg-one (n=iceknigh@nas-12-007.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] thumbs: just download a 64bit USB image, and try to boot that [18:54] thrice` do you know if the second cd is the one that contains gui ? [18:54] alienBOB: good point. [18:54] alienBOB: albeit at this point I want to play with my fresh install more than anything [18:54] sixfish, X is on cd2 yes [18:54] sixfish, kde is 3 [18:55] sixfish, yep, CD2 has xorg, GTK/gui apps, among others [18:55] thanks [18:55] which one is recommended [18:56] if you have a decent internet connection, I don't see a reason to not do the dvd [18:56] ah yeah [18:56] yeah im doing that one :) [18:56] i was talking about gui :) [18:56] well [18:56] KDE [18:56] aah [18:56] you can really spare the source stuff [18:56] altho I usually get the dvd image too [18:56] yeah i could coulnt i [18:56] hehe [18:57] it's up to you; alot of people love kde4, but I'd say just as many hate it :) [18:57] i cant seem to find anything other besides this 1 dvd torrent [18:57] there must be some external links somewhere [18:57] but I need to change some default stuff a lot, like samba, so its handy to have the source as well [18:57] i see [18:57] need to recompile samba to add AD support quite often [18:57] yeah i guess i might aswell go with the dvd image [18:58] I guess I should start to host some of my own packages somewhere, now I think of it [18:58] i'm one of the ones on that latter side [18:58] ditto :) [18:59] although, i do really like Kate [18:59] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:59] chee: Does she like you too? :P [18:59] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-252-80.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:59] some off the kde stuff is really nice [18:59] chee:eeeee! [18:59] lol, fire|bird <3 [19:00] doesnt look so crappy anymore when you run it in xfce [19:00] deco, ooo! ^^ [19:00] qt4 ftw! [19:00] yeah ill just do that :) [19:00] chee: lol [19:01] oh dammit, I logged into KDE4 by accident. [19:01] lol [19:02] not good on a 512MB machine [19:03] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:03] heh [19:03] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [19:04] ahhhh, good old XFCE. [19:04] <3 xfce [19:04] I like the new one [19:04] the new menu is not nearly as bad as I feard [19:04] feared [19:05] eclipse75 (n=tyler@adsl-99-67-123-163.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] is the instalation of 13 any differant from 12 ? [19:05] I liked the older release better (in 12.2) [19:05] sixfish: it's the same. [19:05] Action: andarius ditched the new menu in xfce for the old :) [19:05] woooo!! slackware rocks! pat rules and bill drools! woo! [19:05] andarius: I might do that too. [19:05] thumbs ok cool [19:05] Action: eclipse75 hugs andarius [19:05] the rest of the new features are nice [19:06] eclipse75 (n=tyler@adsl-99-67-123-163.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [19:06] sixfish, ha! nevar! [19:06] what the hell, hug and run :| [19:06] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] sixfish, more options tho. samba, ftp, http. dropbear sever for remote installs and usb boot images [19:07] and guns and knives and pointy sticks [19:07] lots of options, really [19:07] slackytude|evil: well, yes [19:07] andarius, you can do that? [19:07] slackytude|evil: but esthetically, it's the same old solid installer. [19:07] yep [19:07] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.166.67) joined ##slackware. [19:08] this P3 is back alive. I had 10.2 on it before. [19:08] there is this one guy who writes linux reviews, who always complains about it [19:08] slackytude|evil: yes, you can [19:08] andarius, I can haz howto? [19:08] perhaps, but as i did not write one not from me :P [19:08] andarius, how did you do it then? [19:08] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:08] to change the right click menu you have to disable desktop icons [19:08] hrm [19:09] tough choice [19:09] for me was simple, i heate desktop icons [19:09] s/heate/hate/ [19:09] Action: chee joins a club with andarius [19:09] mess up my ability to see my wallpaper :) [19:09] heh [19:10] plus if you open something you have to mave crap to get to them... [19:10] all good points [19:10] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:10] I guess I could start to move them somewhere. [19:11] altho, what I would really like would be to have a GUI for quick launching some apps, by nice icons [19:11] WindowMaker? [19:12] http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin [19:12] or the simple launcher iem for the panel, as you can set custom icons for it [19:13] andarius, nifty [19:13] reaperIII (n=reaperII@41.122.246.156) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:13] but Im actually thinking of rolling my own [19:13] andarius, i grew used to the new right-click menu, btw. overall i like the look and feel (not much different from before) i had to move the desktop icons back to the left though, my brain couldn't hack the change [19:13] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin/ [19:14] s/desktop icons/workspace icons/ [19:14] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [19:14] the desktop is really a "suites you" item no matter what anyone says [19:14] hi rworkman [19:14] Necrogami (n=djnecrog@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:15] ola [19:15] hey mr. rworkman :) [19:15] i kept moving the mouse up and to the left and then would realize (oh the workspaces are off to the right again) [19:15] hey hey [19:15] slutty_pirate3 (n=base3@host81-141-239-187.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] a few hours later, i gave up, and forced my will upon it [19:15] !######### # [19:15] !########! ##! [19:15] !########! ### [19:15] Channel flood from slutty_pirate3 -- kicking [19:15] !########## #### [19:15] ######### ##### ###### [19:15] slutty_pirate3 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:15] lol [19:16] wow [19:16] that was amazing [19:16] Action: deco takes screenshot [19:16] rworkman: I think I know the Seamonkey 2 issue now, it being that ldappr.h isn't in system_wrappers anymore, and instead in system_wrappers_js now. Just my thinking anyway, fwiw. :) [19:16] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [19:17] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:17] guys, is there a difference between MBR and boot sector? I thought the MBR was the boot sector? [19:17] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-25-211-160.web.vodafone.de) left irc: "Leaving" [19:17] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@71.150.249.159) left irc: "leaving" [19:17] ----|-l,- [19:17] mbr is different [19:17] there's been an epic fail! ;( [19:18] I wasn't there [19:18] mbr is the master boot record, each partition has a boot sector [19:18] ah, gotcha [19:18] mbr is for the whole disc [19:18] right mbr is a type of boot sector, not the only one though [19:19] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [19:20] bah, now my box is all up, and I'm too lazy to try 64bit on that P3. Screw it. [19:21] mancha: MBR == SuperBlock? [19:21] No [19:21] speaking of seamonkey, it's been almost a week since all the mozilla stuff got security releases. where are they? [19:22] No [19:22] superblock is an fs concept [19:23] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:23] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:24] think of it as the fs's parameters cubby hole [19:24] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [19:25] i really hate when someone replies to a forum thread the OP has started to ask for a FOSS alternative to a product he used on windows, and some replies "use wine" [19:25] i hate those cute fuzzy analogies [19:25] chee, use wine [19:25] stfu slackytude|evil i h8 u [19:25] :D [19:25] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:25] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] are you like grumpy from snow white? [19:26] lol [19:26] Natenom_ (n=Natenom@xdsl-87-79-50-158.netcologne.de) joined ##slackware. [19:26] i hate those little meangingless stories [19:26] Natenom (n=Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:26] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [19:26] i hate everything smaller than me [19:27] go ahead and give me all your moeny since you hate it... [19:30] the new XFCE has a lot of features. [19:30] such as? [19:30] mancha: well the configuration panel has been greatly expanded. [19:31] mancha: it almost feels like OSX now. [19:31] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [19:32] i honestly don't feel too much of UI difference though i notice some memory holes were plugged....xfce4-panel doesn't creep up with more mem usage with each passing week anymore [19:33] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.68.75) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:34] speaking of holes, kde's got a bunch that went public, namely in ark, io slave, and kmail [19:35] these all affect slackware [19:35] sixfish (n=possible@c-98-237-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: [19:35] best to removepkg kde* [19:35] agreed [19:35] i can no longer use ctrl+alt+Fkeys to switch to virtual terminals [19:35] help [19:36] chee: did you edit inittab? [19:36] Action: chopp looks at all his kde less boxen. [19:36] jspider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] chopp: I like k3b out of KDE, really. [19:36] i didn't touch it! [19:36] when i am having guests for dinner and am missing a few coasters i fire up k3b [19:36] i don't even knw what it is [19:36] lol [19:37] xfburn works for me. :) [19:37] recorer is a nice one too [19:37] recorder * [19:38] thrice`: cool, I'll check it out too. [19:38] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.129.233) joined ##slackware. [19:39] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [19:40] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:40] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [19:42] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:44] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [19:46] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-24-114-43.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [19:47] i run kbluetooth but it says "No Bluetooth Adapter" [19:48] dmesg? [19:48] hciconfig shows device [19:48] access rights? [19:48] 13.0 is much better than 12.2 [19:49] but when i run hcid the following is outputed: [19:49] hcid[9129]: Bluetooth HCI daemon [19:49] hcid[9129]: Parsing /etc/bluetooth/main.conf failed: No such file or directory [19:49] Channel flood from vdv -- kicking [19:49] hcid[9129]: Unable to get on D-Bus [19:49] vdv kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:49] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-24-114-43.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [19:49] sorry [19:49] you must be a D-Busstop [19:49] at [19:49] kbluetooth needs bluez4, I think [19:49] looks like you need that main.conf [19:49] yes [19:50] main.conf doesn't exist in bluez < 4, right? [19:50] interesting [19:50] i don't have bluez4, but hcid wants main.conf [19:51] it's a clean 13.0 installation [19:51] 32 or 64? [19:51] 32 [19:52] now I have to get the laptop on 13.0 [19:52] same here, thumbs [19:52] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [19:53] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:55] is it possible to "use bluetooth" right away in 13.0? just start rc.bluetooth [19:55] its missing some userland stuff, afaik [19:56] Not on par with, say, Fedora in that regard [19:56] isn't bluez3 sorta fubar? [19:56] altho that mighty have changed with --current [19:56] mancha, there was some issue but I cant recall exactly [19:57] uva (i=bno@114-45-232-180.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:57] i don't either but for some reason i recall hcid working like a forkbomb [19:57] *hicd [19:58] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [19:58] can i haz all your cpu cycles, or thereabouts [19:58] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:59] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-225-152.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:00] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-92-126.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [20:03] whoever thought that visualizing numbers lead to endless possibilities probably got their wang chopped off by someone [20:05] thrice`: I just finished with removepkg'ing kde, I feel lighter and brighter. :D [20:07] :) [20:07] xfce ftw!! \o/ [20:07] sometimes, I hate using xfce [20:07] thrice`: It went from 8.2 used, to 7.5 used. [20:07] space [20:07] seems to lacks some things or something [20:08] yikes. I just got rid of the window borders [20:08] it does lack something. a k at the head of every app name [20:08] lol [20:08] remove emacs, documentation, and elvis and you'll be down to 1.2 gigs used :P [20:08] thumbs: yikes indeed, what did you do? [20:08] mancha: I didn't install emacs in the first place. :P [20:08] fire|bird: not sure [20:09] thumbs: they just disappeared? [20:09] yeah. [20:09] watch out everyone, thumbs has ghosts, that steal window borders. :P [20:09] thumbs: that's very odd. [20:10] see if starting xfwm manual brings them back [20:10] fire|bird: trying to poke around to re-establish them [20:10] or xfwm4 that is [20:10] andarius: it does. [20:11] gtk-window-decorator & maybe [20:11] andarius: very interesting. [20:11] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] then something or some one killed it. it should start by default [20:11] Hey guys...I have a script that auto-rsyncs my media to my external for back ups [20:11] how do I automate this when I plug it in? [20:11] I go to bed, see ya guys [20:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h121n1fls302o1036.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:12] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.166.162) left irc: "+-||\-" [20:12] redtricy1le, udev can automatically run scripts upon device events [20:13] Oh, nice. [20:13] redtricy1le, must WM's have something GUI'sh for that as well [20:13] s/must/most [20:14] Xfce? [20:14] thunar-volman [20:14] Oh..man.. [20:14] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:14] I always thought that was "volume manager" [20:14] dont know if its part of 13 or SBo [20:14] as in, audio volume =P [20:15] lol [20:15] seriously, so i never gave it a second look [20:15] how silly i feel [20:15] looks like it is in stock xfce [20:16] setting -> removable drive and media [20:16] thunar-volman-0.3.80-x86_64-1 is not! [20:16] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [20:16] hrm [20:16] I dont really see it... [20:16] edit->pref->advanced->configure volman [20:16] could be the 12.1 Sbo package [20:16] it has automount, browse [20:17] but where can I specify the programs to run? [20:17] o-o [20:17] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.78.211) joined ##slackware. [20:17] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:18] maybe slackytude|evil knows more, but I don't think it's possible. writing a udev rule is best [20:18] i'm copying from my usb2 harddrive at 9MB/s.... isn't normal somewhere around 40? [20:18] Auto-run programs on new drives and media [20:18] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] its in thunar-volman [20:18] but you don't want that for ANY usb [20:18] Oh, ohh [20:18] is that what you mean [20:18] redtricy1le, get thunar-volman [20:18] I put my script ON my volume? [20:18] I have 13.0 [20:19] so I have thunar-volman [20:19] andarius: we'll see if xfwm4 is not running upon the next session [20:19] slackytude|evil, thunar-volman ships with slackware 13, separately [20:20] redtricy1le, I was mistaken [20:20] It looks like it will act like autorun.inf in windows [20:20] Ah...I see, so udev is still the way to go? [20:20] starting a .desktop file on the new mount [20:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420941.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:20] funny enough, it will try to run autorun.exe too, if wine is installed [20:21] Im not sure I like that [20:21] ah, found it [20:21] redtricy1le, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto [20:21] vdv (n=vdv@ip-77-24-114-43.web.vodafone.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:22] ah, crap. The new NVIDIA drivers don't support my card. [20:22] thumbs: welcome to legacy [20:23] I'll try the legacy package from sbo. [20:24] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] thumbs: i have an nvidia geforce go 4 mobile 32mb i live in a legacy world -_- [20:24] deco: GF2MX400 here. [20:25] thumbs: hmmm , it's so old i just use the nv drivers .. [20:25] deco: I used the official nvidia drivers as of last year. I'd like to see if they still work. [20:26] thumbs: oh it's not too bad then ... [20:29] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:31] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.105) joined ##slackware. [20:32] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.129.233) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:33] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@host175-56-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:33] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:34] nvidia legacy can still be better than ATI current [20:34] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] or Intel [20:34] lots of trouble for Intel users recently [20:34] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-252-80.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:35] and #windows is talking about antivirus again [20:35] ivenkys_ (n=ivenkys@unaffiliated/ivenkys) joined ##slackware. [20:35] they always do that -_- [20:36] slackytude|evil: heh [20:36] dammit, I gotta stop typing on the wrong keyboard. I'm about to give you my root password. [20:37] \o/ [20:37] lol [20:38] whenever you hear windows user talk about antivirus software, drop Norton in, its heaps of fun [20:38] never run it, but it must be crap, everybody hates it [20:38] and watch your dual core perform like a P3? [20:39] slackytude|evil: it is :P [20:39] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-150-109-78.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:39] ah, you know as well [20:39] yeah [20:39] Im tempted to install it, just to see how bad it is [20:39] thumbs: In my experience, s/P3/P1/ ;) [20:39] pretty bad when you have to download a removal tool to actually remove nortons, and then still have to do manual removal of some things [20:39] fire|bird: fair enough [20:40] and people wonder why I like to idle in #windows [20:40] It slowed the machine to a crawl. [20:43] the legacy sbo package has a busted link. [20:43] once you get used to sbopkg, it feels odd going back to manually building them. [20:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:44] thumbs, aye [20:44] I suppose most of us are getting lazy. [20:45] more wise in the choice of our approach [20:45] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-106-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:47] actually, since you mentioned windows, my friend was asking me the what was the lightest AV out there, and all I could think of was AVG. IS this still true? [20:47] thumbs, ask that in #windows [20:47] seriously [20:47] i personaly prefer avira, as AVG has let fail in too many times [20:48] avira is multiplatform to boot :) [20:48] slackytude|evil: I'm tempted to join #windows, just to watch the fun. :P [20:48] slackytude|evil: meh, it's not important. Didn't mean to bring in an OT discussion. [20:48] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [20:48] free-av.com [20:48] thumbs, but what I hear is that NOD32 is good [20:48] has some nice features for linux machines [20:49] slackytude|evil: tried that once. Copy expired. Ditched it. [20:49] and AVG has taken a nosedive recently, I understand [20:49] avira and kaspersky are also recommended [20:50] there, that was the gist of 15minute discussion in #windows [20:50] they need a FAQ [20:50] AVG likes to use the free users as their bata testers [20:50] andarius: I don't really mind, as I don't have a windows box. [20:51] andarius: but the 7.5->8.x fiasco had lead many of my friends to call me [20:51] your call. i use avira for my family on windows. they have been prlbem and virus free since. years now [20:52] andarius: oh, next time I'll jump on a windows box, I'll try it [20:52] the have a linux version as well :) [20:52] ivenkys (n=ivenkys@unaffiliated/ivenkys) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] fire|bird, I'll call you next time ^-^ [20:52] I have no desire to run an AV on my boxes, thank you. [20:53] avira for linux? [20:53] slackytude|evil: cool [20:53] fire|bird, ^-^ [20:53] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:53] andarius, avira on linux? [20:53] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:53] slackytude|evil: yes, that is what i said twice now [20:53] http://free-av.com/en/download/download_servers.php [20:54] as noted, the linux version even has some nice features the win version does not [20:54] ah, thx for that [20:55] yw [20:58] hi o/ [20:59] deco: update: the GF2 is only supported with the 96 series of drivers. [20:59] deco: PITA [21:00] thumbs: yeah that's what i use [21:00] fire|bird (i=chopp@ghost.xzibition.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:00] thumbs: but xfce/gnome gnome in other distros.. is so slow with that driver [21:00] well in my experience [21:00] deco: I'll tell you in 10 minutes! [21:00] thumbs: ok go go! [21:02] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@host175-56-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:02] deco: I think I'll keep a copy of those drivers around, too. [21:03] yeah [21:04] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-224-110.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-224-110.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] deco: 900 FPS with glxgears and a GF2MX400 [21:06] thats good for a geforce [21:06] thumbs: hmmm are the windows moving alright ? [21:06] used to get less than that [21:06] deco: it's perfect. [21:06] thumbs: ah lucky! [21:07] thumbs: i guess my card is just really crappy then [21:07] deco: albeit I see ghosting while dragging the windows. [21:07] thats just about enough to play neverwinter nights! [21:07] slackytude|evil: lol [21:08] one of a few great games with a native linux client [21:08] deco: let me turn off the effects, and try again. [21:08] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:10] deco: meh, I guess it's OK. I see ghosting effects. [21:10] sucks [21:10] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:10] thumbs: oh hmm well for me it's just really slow... moving windows around etc.. [21:11] deco: moving windows is relatively fast. [21:11] thumbs: yeah it's just my crappy card [21:11] deco, what you got? [21:12] and now I'm typing on the wronk keyboard again. Sigh. [21:12] slackytude|evil: nvidia geforce 4 go 32mb mobile [21:12] 32mb? [21:12] slackytude|evil: yesh T_T [21:13] meh [21:13] that is pretty sucky [21:13] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:13] slackytude|evil: more then sucky [21:13] mine's 64. [21:13] I used to have a geforce2mx 200 [21:13] thumbs: that's good enough to run compiz ... [21:14] deco: i was about to try that too! [21:14] _chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:14] it plays bejewelled fine on facebook, too. [21:14] thumbs: you need at least more then 32mb so yours should work [21:15] thumbs, gah, seems like everybody plays that [21:16] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:17] good evening :-) [21:17] hossa macavity [21:17] when did you turn evil?!? [21:18] i'm gonan become a rapper and cuss out macavity in a song [21:18] i cant wait to hear it... [21:18] macavity, its halloween [21:18] macavity, 50 cent, dre and slim shady are gonna be on the track [21:18] you might as well step [21:18] evening macavity, how are you? [21:18] ah, ok.. i thought you got a job at M$ or something :P [21:18] macavity, meh [21:19] macavity, nevar! [21:19] leptom (i=1000@84.125.166.186.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] dads da spivit! [21:19] good night [21:19] deco: ah, tuned it. Now it's as good as my 8600. [21:19] ash|chicken: very good, you? [21:19] hello leptom [21:20] hi macavity [21:20] how is going? [21:20] macavity: lol, great, thanks. :) [21:20] very good, you? [21:20] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] thumbs: oh cool :) [21:20] deco: it was a matter of turning off a few effects in XFCE [21:20] good too, trying to compile kde 4.3.2 in slackware 13 [21:20] thumbs: oh heh you mean the compisitor thing ? [21:21] deco: amongst other things, yes. [21:21] k [21:21] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [21:21] thumbs: xfce compositor cause window border issues? [21:21] damn.. now i cant remember where i to those nifty KDE packages from [21:21] phoenix^: no, it didn't, apparently. [21:22] macavity, they should be in -current [21:22] phoenix^: I must have mucked with the wrong setting, as xfwm4 died at some point. [21:22] macavity: current has 4.3.2 now [21:22] thumbs: ah, ok. [21:22] Action: macavity fires up slackpkg [21:22] phoenix^: it's all perfect now. [21:22] thumbs: good to hear. :) [21:22] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [21:23] vbatts compiled kde packages for slackware current [21:23] do you want the url? [21:23] no, i have his packages [21:23] classic [21:23] leptom, they are merged into -current :) [21:23] so ill just upgrade to current [21:23] I don't want upgrade to current [21:23] I prefer to be in slackware 13 [21:23] you mentioned packages for -current [21:23] vbatts packages worked for 13.0 [21:24] I tried them but I get a blank screen [21:24] oh [21:24] it was compiled using "anylibraryIdontremember" that not match with slackware 13 [21:24] leptom: that's because 4.3.2 was built on current, not 13, there's different qt versions. [21:25] anylibraryIdontremember = qt [21:25] I wasn't sure about it [21:25] or mysql maybe [21:25] but.. they were in the deps/ dir [21:25] you confirm my thoughts [21:25] thrice`: qt in this case, I tried it, 4.3.2 from vbatts on 13 caused a blank white screen. [21:26] the vbatts stuff is in -current? awesome [21:26] someone give that man a beer [21:26] fire|bird, aah, ok. btw, upated your f12 box? new wallpaper stuff yesterday or so :) [21:27] thrice`: not yet, hadn't booted to it yesterday or today. [21:27] I upgraded to vbatts package but not to -current [21:27] is the new wallpaper any good? [21:27] Thu Oct 22 22:09:40 UTC 2009 New KDE and other updates. Thanks to Vincent Batts, Robby Workman, Piter Punk, and Eric Hameleers for the help! [21:27] everything was grey [21:27] (from changelog) [21:27] nice [21:28] then we can use kde 4.3.2 from current? [21:28] no [21:28] fire|bird, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Artwork/Final_Refresh_Process if you want to ruin the surprise ;) [21:28] cyborg-one (n=iceknigh@nas-12-007.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "so many assholes, so few bullets..." [21:28] thanks fire|bird [21:28] thrice`: haha, ok, thanks. [21:28] thrice`: As soon as I get this printer issue fixed with the XP vm, then I'll boot to Fedora. [21:28] has fedora the new gnome stuff? [21:29] slackytude|evil: as in gnome-shell? [21:29] gnome shell [21:29] yes [21:29] yes, it does [21:29] of course, fedora WRITES the new gnome stuff ;) [21:29] heh [21:29] haha [21:29] how is it? [21:29] I thought it was ubuntu [21:29] thrice`: writes, breaks, then writes again. :P [21:29] slackytude|evil: both Ubuntu and Fedora have it. [21:29] nooo, most of the gnome guys are all red hat. [21:29] to install [21:29] and how is it? [21:29] thrice`: I know, j/k [21:29] I think the devicekit stuff is pretty awesome, and much nicer than hal [21:29] ubuntu contributes very little codewise (short of launchpad) [21:29] slackytude|evil: horrible, a pain in the rear. [21:30] fire|bird, lol [21:30] thrice`: enlightenment/link? [21:30] macavity, sure about that? [21:30] slackytude|evil: It zooms in and out and good grief, it's insane. [21:30] fire|bird, too bad [21:30] I have problems compiling akonadi [21:30] and, the KMS integration in fedora is pretty solid [21:30] :-( [21:30] https://gist.github.com/a1bf13f4830fe61ab642 [21:30] thrice`, wonder if slackware will go devicekit as well [21:30] macavity, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit [21:31] slackytude|evil: also, it needs prop drivers to work, otherwise, in Fedora anyway, it won't even start. [21:31] slackytude|evil: grep sources for @ubuntu :P [21:31] ubuntu has standardized it [21:31] meh [21:31] some idea about what can I do? [21:31] dont have gnome [21:31] dependencies are ok [21:32] PK may also be an issue to get working... [21:32] slackytude|evil: bah, who needs gnome when xfce exists. :P [21:32] heh, yeah [21:32] thrice`: portability? [21:32] arg, wait. X is using 50% of the CPU. [21:32] "/usr/lib/qt/lib/libQtCore.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format" [21:32] Is it correct or it should be "/usr/lib64.../libQtCore.so" ? [21:33] macavity, need policykit [21:33] macavity, which needs PAM, afaik [21:33] crappy world :P [21:33] slackytude|evil: sounds about right [21:33] but hey, we will PAM eventually [21:33] yep, slackware will have to adapt eventually to this aging technology ;) [21:33] not to mention gnome-mount and nautilus [21:34] fingerprint readers have become quite common place [21:34] well, it will make a lot of things easier [21:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [21:34] Action: NaCl wonders what may/will happen [21:35] we might see something like for gnome [21:35] I think the d-kit abi is pretty unstable yet [21:35] a side project for PAMonSlack or somesuch [21:36] i belive antiwire has a solid PAM recipie [21:36] they way dropline acts as kinda official Gnome for slack [21:37] cos right now it looks like everybody does his own recipe if its needed [21:37] I think nullbody did some decent work as well, iirc [21:40] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:41] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.179.1) left irc: Client Quit [21:43] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:44] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] hi how much time would me to take to recompile one kde source file ? I mean I must assemble the kde package again :P [21:46] I have 30min to begin compile akonadi :D [21:46] And not compile [21:47] paul424: what are you trying to do? upgrade your kde? [21:47] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] Wescotte: no I want to modify one line in source code [21:48] paul424: http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/ <-- vbatts put online packages for kde 4.3.0 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 that might save you some time [21:48] paul424: oh.. well, no idea.. but I'm sure it takes awhile [21:48] paul424, what for? [21:50] slackytude|evil: I want to disable the annoying preview of directiories from desktop [21:50] eh, surely there is an easier way [21:50] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [21:50] then to recompile a kde core package [21:50] did you ask #kde ß [21:51] ? [21:51] paul424: you know you can make the kde desktop classic, and look like it used to be, right? [21:52] jspider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:52] you mean the downgrade to the desktop version of 3.5 ? yes I know about it. [21:52] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:52] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [21:52] You don't downgrade anything, you change a setting in kde4 [21:52] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] yeah how I can do that ? [21:54] right click the desktop, click appearance settings, change type from Desktop to Folder View. [21:54] otho_ (n=otho@unaffiliated/otho) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:55] pfff that's what have I done ... [21:55] ruben23 (n=RPL@121.1.37.146) joined ##slackware. [21:55] and then you removed the desktop folder view plasmoid? [21:56] but at the bugtracking at kde site I just saw its not avalaible to disable that .. so it waits at wishlist ... yes I get rid of plazmoid ... I guess didn't restarted the session though [21:56] hi [21:56] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:56] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-35.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:57] how do i set my ethernet to dhscp on slack server [21:57] whats dhscp? [21:57] I replaced in akonadi all ocurrences of /usr/lib to /usr/lib64 [21:57] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-35.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] dhcp i mean sorry [21:57] with these changes akonadi compile! [21:58] leptom: you mean you didn't use a slackbuild? [21:58] and set arch to x86_64 [21:58] have you checked /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf , ruben23 ? [21:58] I'm using slackbuild [21:58] but It(or me) fail [21:59] jg71: ill be using a dhcp connection... [21:59] with the change it fails too [21:59] leptom: what exactly do you mean you changed all /usr/lib to /usr/lib64? [21:59] ruben23, aha. [21:59] I changed source code (include lines) [21:59] not work of course [21:59] works [21:59] ... [21:59] .. [22:00] I said the same "..." [22:00] ) jg71: where should i change my static IP to dhcp [22:00] You shouldn't have done that, but ok.... [22:00] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-13.0/source/l/akonadi/ [22:00] I deleted again [22:00] ruben23, i told you [22:00] ruben23: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [22:00] I get the source from there [22:00] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [22:00] jg71: damm not listening.., thanks [22:01] for an instant switch to dhcp you can run dhcpcd ethX [22:01] leptom: If you got the source and slackbuild from there, you shouldn't have had to change anything. [22:01] yep, I was thinking it [22:01] especially not the source code [22:01] I was a desesperate movement [22:01] *It [22:01] I begin the process again with all clean [22:02] tmp clean, source code/slackbuild dowloaded again.. [22:02] I tell you [22:02] jg71: how to used dhcp..? [22:02] thanks :) [22:02] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:02] ruben23: rc.inet1.conf ---> USE_DHCP[0]="yes" [22:03] ruben23, ^^^ [22:03] adapt to your needs, sometimes eth0 isnt the interface you want. just ... think :) [22:03] just run 'netconfig' ferchrissakes [22:03] fail again [22:03] :-S [22:04] leptom, how does it fail [22:04] pastebin [22:04] right now! :) [22:04] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F3997.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] not when does it fail, HOW does it fail? Errors, etc. [22:05] jhw (n=jhw@p548F6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:05] http://pastie.org/678525 [22:05] also suppose I want to run some command just after the desktop starts, where should I put it ? [22:05] what desktop? [22:05] ~/.kde/Autostart [22:05] needs Qt update? [22:06] there error seems Qt related anyway [22:06] the [22:06] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:06] /usr/lib/qt/lib/libQtCore.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format [22:06] slackytude|evil: looks that way [22:06] rworkman, ping? [22:07] I was thinking about a wrong libQtCore.so [22:07] leptom: What slackware version, what kde/qt version? [22:07] fire|bird: ok thanks [22:07] leptom: what do you think provides libQtCore.so, qt perhaps? ;) [22:07] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] heh [22:07] leptom, you're on slackware64? [22:07] /var/log/packages/qt-r1008952-i486-1:usr/lib/qt/lib/libQtCore.so.4.5.1 [22:08] zalt (i=irc@ks29953.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:08] slackware 13 - qt -r1008952-x86_64-1 [22:08] moo. [22:08] thrice`, yes [22:08] thrice`: yes [22:08] thrice`, well the script looks in /lib64 anyway [22:08] I had qt-compat32-r1008952 too [22:08] aha [22:09] It's seeing the compat32 qt [22:09] maybe you need to force it to look in /usr/lib64, with something like: LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib64" \ before the configure clause in the slackbuild [22:09] brb [22:09] How can I said to use /usr/lib64 [22:09] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [22:09] I tried it [22:09] but it uses cmake [22:10] anyone would have a clue on how to fix a small issue with the lilo bootloader? when booting from a CD with a "hugesmp.s root=/dev/sdl1 rootdelay=20" then USB stick where the system is installed onto boots just fine because the USB becomes /dev/sdl, however if I plug a hard drive instead of a CD/DVD drive the USB stick becomes magically /dev/sdm and therefore I get a VFS: kernel panic. I edited around the /etc/lilo.conf to put a proper /dev/sdm but then [22:10] it configures with cmake then does make [22:10] jg71: thanks, how about restartting the network.. [22:11] I go to search about cmake [22:11] ruben23: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart [22:11] lilo gives me: Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sdm") [22:11] being lazy, I'd remove the qt-compat32 package, compile, and reinstall [22:11] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:11] thanks for the help, In the end it was misguided [22:12] ruben23, read the slackbook, too [22:12] on up to date -current, Akanodi is bitching, any info? [22:12] leptom, look what thrice` said [22:12] macavity, isnt it always [22:12] now at least it stopped bitching about MySQL [22:12] jg71: yeah first opening now [22:12] slackytude|evil: I read it in slackbuilds FAQ [22:13] leptom, ok [22:14] I put it before cmake and fail. I go to search about ldflags in cmake [22:14] I'll tell you [22:14] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [22:15] macavity: what's it bitching about? [22:16] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [22:17] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:17] leptom, remove qt3, compile kde, installpkg qt3 [22:17] leptom, done [22:18] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] err, I mean slackbuild [22:18] slackytude|evil: no, no, no, removepkg kde*, xwmconfig, choose xfce, log out, log in, done. ;) [22:19] hehe [22:19] oh the madness [22:19] the horror [22:19] all that trouble for kde ... leptom is gonna win a medal ;P [22:20] anyone kind enough to take a look at my lilo problem? [22:20] haha [22:20] jg71: the kde medal of honor? :P [22:20] shouldn't be "hard". [22:20] hehe [22:20] zalt, pastebin [22:20] slackytude|evil, there isn't really anything to paste.. [22:21] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] zalt, then dont [22:23] basically the USB stick where the system is installed on is either seen as /dev/sdl or /dev/sdm but I can't seem to force lilo to write to it. [22:23] zalt, if the device changed, and you edited lilo.conf accordingly, oyu need to also run lilo [22:23] he did [22:23] thrice`, that's what I did. [22:23] lilo gives me: Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sdm") [22:23] if you want flexibility, use disk-by-uuid [22:23] but theres some raid config interfering [22:23] can lilo do that? [22:24] oh, not sure about raid [22:24] 16 hard drives in the machine hehe.. [22:24] raid is overraided ;P [22:24] 14TB. ;-) [22:24] zalt, sure, ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [22:24] lotsa porn eh ;P [22:24] jg71, heh, you got me! [22:25] jar_corefile (n=jcordasc@adsl-71-150-249-159.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:25] thrice`, how do I figure what disk is what? [22:25] is there a reason why you need usb boot when you have a hdd attached? [22:25] zalt ^^? [22:26] jg71, yeah; maximized space. [22:26] *usb stick [22:26] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:26] oh, those enclosures are nice. My HDD's are running at 29C [22:26] if the case and the PSU would take 20 hdds, even 24 or even more, I would consider adding more.. [22:26] zalt, add an -l to the ls [22:26] just add one more psu [22:27] jg71, case's full [22:27] get another case ;P [22:27] theres no excuse in here [22:27] 4ddeca1d-b824-4e90-87f0-23bb0cdbf8d1 -> ../../sdl1 [22:27] use that one [22:27] lilo might need append= instead of root= [22:28] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:30] confused. [22:33] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [22:35] pi31415_ (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [22:41] I gotta fly! [22:41] bye [22:41] tomorrow more (maybe better?) [22:41] xD [22:41] leptom (i=1000@84.125.166.186.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving. Bye, bye!" [22:42] what should I do if I can no longer use ctrl+alt+Fkeys to switch virtual terminals? [22:42] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:43] wail in despair? [22:43] hi how do i update slack..? [22:43] look for errors [22:43] you are not in init4, are you? [22:43] ruben23, slackpkg [22:43] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] slackytude|evil: slackpkg update..? [22:44] ruben23, slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [22:45] slackytude|evil: you know off hand now to bring up an XP run dialog box. [22:45] s/now/how/ [22:45] run as ? [22:45] I usually use runas in cmd [22:46] what do you mean? [22:46] slackytude|evil: one more--i have to enabe one mirror..how do i do it..? [22:46] thrice`, switched to use UUIDs in the /etc/fstab, still won't do. [22:46] ruben23, it should tell you, edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [22:47] slackytude|evil: Well, in this case, it's someone else, and the taskbar is completely gone, Windows key doesn't show menu, etc. so I was wondering of it's possible to bring up the little run dialog box with a key combo. [22:47] fire|bird, ah, just do alt-ctrl delete [22:47] Action: chee wails in despair [22:47] that will give you taskmanager [22:48] from which you can launch new processes [22:48] so start explorer.exe [22:48] fire|bird, or try winkey+r [22:48] explorer.exe is still running. [22:48] yeah, winkey+r is the method [22:49] fire|bird, but it looks like you gonna reboot anyway [22:49] and slackytude|evil 's other tip is also great! [22:49] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [22:49] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:49] fire|bird, try to kill it then [22:49] and start again [22:50] Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,177) and that's despite the fact I changed to UUID in /etc/fstab.. [22:50] is thanksgiving the reason there are two weeks without episodes of House MD? [22:50] and lilo.conf ? [22:50] what about lilo.conf? [22:50] slackytude|evil: tried restart, etc. no success. Know off hand the command to start avg from the run dialog. [22:50] you need to edit lilo.conf too [22:50] yeah? [22:50] fire|bird, heh, sorry, no [22:51] UUID's can go into lilo.conf as well? [22:51] fire|bird, can you start cmd.exe ? [22:51] fire|bird, that would give you a shell [22:51] slackytude|evil: I can, yeah. [22:51] It's help over the phone :) [22:51] fire|bird, so you should be able to cd your way into the dir of avg [22:51] where there should be a binary you can launch [22:52] c:\program file\avg or whatever [22:52] slackytude|evil: yeah, just looking into that now, thanks. :) [22:52] I'm guessing this is virus related. :) [22:54] zalt, yep, but I think you need append="root=UUID=123blahblah" or so [22:54] fire|bird, bugger [22:54] fire|bird, nuke it from orbit [22:54] its the only way to be sure [22:54] haha, yeah, it seems like that'll be the only way. [22:55] thrice`, that's a no-no. [22:55] thrice`, Fatal: Not a number: "4ddeca1d-b824-4e90-87f0-23bb0cdbf8d1" [22:55] with what entry? [22:56] sorry, i'm not 100% sure, but I know lilo can do it. I'm too lazy to google for you, also :( [22:56] well, it is not a number [22:56] image = /boot/vmlinuz [22:56] root ="4ddeca1d-b824-4e90-87f0-23bb0cdbf8d1" [22:56] label = Linux [22:56] huh? [22:56] what is that root line supposed to do? [22:56] that looked bogus to me but well I'm "trying" out things. [22:56] ok, so, actually try what I said first [22:56] thrice`, scrolled ages ago unfortunately. [22:57] 22:54 thrice`| zalt, yep, but I think you need append="root=UUID=123blahblah" or so [22:57] 2 minutes fwiw [22:57] hoi [22:57] might want to use addappend and make it per kernel only [22:57] happy halloween people [22:57] whatever it is you do [22:57] Action: tewmten sips some wine [22:57] y0 tewmten [22:57] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:58] in the new flat [22:58] nice to have my own place [22:58] gratz [22:58] i'm walking around naked [22:58] driving my g/f crazy but whatever [22:58] so wsup? [22:58] thrice`, trying your way. [22:58] let's see. [22:59] j0z (n=JESUS@189.114.233.47.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:01] you know that bit during install, where you get to choose if you'd like to use Standard Linux text mode or a frame buffer of various depths and sizes? [23:01] tewmten are you handing out halloween candy like that? :) [23:01] *smells of an epic fail incoming* [23:01] Budd^: yes [23:01] how can I run that [23:01] neighbours looked funny at me [23:01] hehheeh oh [23:01] and choose again [23:01] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.105) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:01] tewmten, i would [23:01] _chopp (i=chopp@geekirc.com) joined ##slackware. [23:02] FAILED. [23:02] *walk around drinking wine and naked if i had my own place [23:02] slackytude|evil: WOW, C: is basically, EMPTY. [23:03] chee: you can change the mode by editing /etc/lilo.conf and then running lilo [23:03] VFS: Cannot open root device "4ddeca1d-b824-4e90-87f0-23bb0cdbf8d...." or unknown-block(0,0) [23:03] fire|bird, that doesnt sound good [23:03] "i got i joke [23:03] ewrh [23:03] i joke jiok [23:03] Channel flood from tewmten -- kicking [23:03] bbl [23:03] tewmten kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:03] thrice`, didn't work. [23:03] beluga (n=ndv@62.122.105.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] slackytude|evil: rebooting to recover cd. ;) [23:03] thrice`, and that was your append way. [23:03] oh awesome, thanks andarius ! [23:03] recovery even [23:04] zalt, you ran lilo after editing? [23:04] thrice`, sure did. [23:04] andarius, what happens if i choose one that isn't supported by my set up? [23:04] slackytude|evil: All I'll say is Linux ftw!!! :P [23:04] and you are positive you got the correct uui value? [23:04] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [23:04] fire|bird, heh [23:04] uuid* [23:04] zalt, same error? [23:05] nvm [23:05] chee: you may end up with a blank screen [23:05] a blank screen forever? [23:05] thrice`, sure. [23:05] thrice`, wait a sec.. [23:05] an unsolvable blank screen? [23:05] does the append bit has to be in the general lilo.conf or inside the lilo section? [23:05] chee: negative. is easy to fix by booting from CD, chrooting into the install and changing it back [23:06] bam, of course [23:06] err [23:06] inside the linux section I meant [23:06] zalt, inside of the section for that kernel [23:06] oh, andarius. would you happen to know any reasons that ii'd suddenly be unable to switch to virtual terminals from X? [23:07] chee: if it fails you can also boot by appending vga=normal [23:07] no, as i dont do that... ever [23:07] o :[ [23:07] okay, andarius, tyvm [23:07] that would explain it then.. [23:07] yw [23:07] testing [23:08] brb [23:08] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:08] kinda going nuts here after all these CD roms/hard drives switchings [23:10] it's your fault for having so many ;) [23:13] how do you whisper again in xchat / irc [23:13] not /query [23:13] maybe /msg? [23:14] what does whisper do? you mean pm? [23:14] yeah [23:14] think its simply /msg [23:14] that's /msg nick_here message [23:14] aye, thx [23:14] I think whisper is a WoW term actually [23:14] ha! [23:14] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [23:14] think I got a google wave invite [23:14] or a lot of spam [23:14] google was WRONG [23:15] slackytude|evil: WHAT, you got one before me?!?!?!? [23:15] google is ALWAYS wrong. [23:15] fire|bird, well, not here yet [23:15] that's why so many lusers use it. [23:15] zalt, did it work? [23:15] fire|bird, but it should arrive soon, unless I got fed a load of bs [23:15] thrice`, booting as we speak. [23:15] i'm just going to have to learn to live without virtual terminals [23:15] omg [23:15] slackytude|evil: Yeah, still waiting for mine here too. [23:15] chee, are you in level 4? [23:16] thrice`, takes a while, 16 drives to spin-up, ram test, then rootdelay because it's an USB stick etc etc [23:16] fire|bird, takes a while? [23:16] thrice`, okay FAILED. [23:16] slackytude|evil: evidently, I signed up to get an invite a few months ago now. [23:16] zalt, considered PXE? [23:16] fire|bird, oh [23:16] slackytude|evil, rather not. [23:16] i got a google wave invite, too [23:16] okay this is getting on my f*cking nerves. [23:16] i didn't sign up at all [23:17] chee, bah [23:17] someone i'd never met just offered me one on freenode [23:17] there has to be a way to force lilo to write to let's say /dev/sdL even if after switching a few drives in the case, it becomes /dev/sdM. [23:17] slackytude|evil, when i answer this question, please don't burn me and eat my corpse [23:17] how do i know if i'm in level 4 [23:17] zalt, can you pastebin lilo.conf ? [23:17] like lilo -v -justfuckdoityoupieceofshit [23:18] Action: chee holds onto his corpse [23:18] thrice`, sure I guess. [23:18] chee, do you boot directly into X or do you enter startx [23:18] -b ftw? read the manpages monkeyboy [23:18] i type [23:19] 'gdm' or 'xdm' usually [23:19] not level 4 then [23:19] mancha, what if I tell ya that I already tried that? [23:19] eh, you start gdm from console? [23:19] si, senor [23:19] mancha, even went -b /dev/sdl1. [23:20] then i would tell you to switch back to windoes [23:20] err meant -M. [23:20] let's see what does -b actually stands for. [23:21] and, plz2pastebin lilo.conf [23:21] Action: chee skips silently [23:21] thrice`, I'm on it. [23:22] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: "Leaving." [23:23] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] http://pastebin.ca/1651165 [23:24] thrice`, here it is. [23:25] boot = /dev/sdl is right? I thought we were doing /dev/sdm ? [23:25] also, promise you're on slackware ? :) [23:26] drive is seen by the system as sdm if I remove the dvd drive and plug an extra hdd from the array on that sata port instead. [23:26] and yes I am. :-) [23:26] root@li:~# cat /etc/slackware-version [23:26] Slackware 12.1.0 [23:28] and the UUID is right, just doublechecked a second ago. [23:30] interresting, liloconf doesn't add the lba32 item on my machine [23:30] well that's a USB key, that could be why. [23:33] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-106-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "this guest ain't got #9" [23:36] tamingsari (n=tamingsa@211.234.119.5) left irc: [23:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [23:39] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [23:41] how do i check my slack version on command line.. [23:41] ruben23, cat /etc/slackware-version [23:42] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:43] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.252) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:44] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [23:45] thrice`: I'm updating Fedora now. :) [23:46] all 654 packages released today? [23:46] only a handful now that f12 is frozen [23:46] There's only 8 [23:46] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:48] whoa, yum shows a lot more than 8 [23:48] 226 [23:48] o_O [23:49] that'll take a little while. [23:49] thrice`: I didn't look at that artwork link. :) [23:49] thrice`, did an interesting test here, wanna hear about it? [23:50] thrice`, instead of booting the system with the usual hugesmp.s root=/dev/sdl1 I did a root=UUID=blablabla and it failed. [23:50] brings me to this point; does _this_ particular version of lilo even supports UUID? [23:50] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [23:50] mm, good question, this was advised after finding out you were on an older slackware. lets see when uuid support was added [23:50] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:51] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:51] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [23:52] 12.1 should do it. anything before 12 was before udev and such [23:52] looks like 22.8 or so adds good support. what does "ls /var/log/packages/lilo*" suggest you have? [23:52] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-79-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:52] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] I'll let you know in a sec. [23:52] then trying grub instead. [23:53] you know what they say ..... dont grub your own grave [23:53] lilo-22.8-i486-12 [23:53] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [23:53] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Client Quit [23:54] bye bye lilo. hello grub. [23:54] zalt: or you could just grab the .SlackBuild for lilo from -current [23:54] Action: andarius thinks that sounds like a lot of work to maintain a 12.x box when 13 is out there :) [23:55] andarius, no blank media and 4:54AM. [23:55] oh and not on broadband either atm. [23:55] uhm.... current lilo is just two buildversion ahead [23:55] then wait a few hours... better than spend several spiralling on an older version [23:56] never mind then.. i figure a patch as big as UUID support would mandate a minor version bump [23:56] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [23:56] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:57] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:58] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-236-83.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [23:58] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] Cryp71c (i=1000@c-68-53-104-165.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Using slackware 13 on a fresh install on my desktop (prev W7) using xfce and I'm having sound issues. [23:59] I have sound, but when I open up Mixer the only 'Controls' available are 'IEC958' and its just a checkbox, not a slider control. [00:00] --- Sun Nov 1 2009